August 4, 2025 • 9 mins
In this edition of the Live Wire, the guys react to Dave Canales' comments on Ryan Fitzgerald on Saturday night, Tetairoa McMillan's comments on the level of physicality in camp and Jaycee Horn saying Bryce Young is like Steph Curry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We got to call him through some sound time. Now
for the Live Wire with mister Flounding. A. Sorry, I
didn't right, that was I'd help you out did on
the talk and you did. That's all right about this?
From dive bars to live bars. Oh very nice, I
(00:21):
take us away, all right.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We go with Dave Canalis, the head coach of the
Carolina Panthers. He was talking after Saturday's fan fest and
was asked about Ryan Fitzgerald missing a couple of kicks
and why Matthew Wright did not kick the entire night.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
You know, Fitzgerald had a couple of miss kicks, and
how come Matthew didn't kill?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Oh, it's just a practice. So this happened to be
the practice that Ryan was kicking, you know, So you
missed a couple. So we're just learning more about the
guys that we have attempts, something beyond the skinny post though.
I mean, it was good and to see him, you know,
with with the whole environment, you know, and even right
there that was a that situation was down three, you know,
to tie it up to go to overtime, you know,
(01:02):
so a little extra added pressure, you know, for that situation.
I thought Jack Plummer did a great job getting us
down there. The guys operated well and we got to
finish those.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So yeah, Ryan Fitzgerald misses on two forty eight yard
field goals, one clangs off the upright. That was the
one that ended practice.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Wo.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
How concerned are you about where the kicking battle is?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, a little bit not great. I mean the fact
that nobody wants to win this job. And if you
were missing a couple of field goals on hashtag skinny posts,
then I was okay with it. But if you're missing
two field goals as soon as the lights are on
and you have to kick with maybe a tiny bit
of pressure from the fan base being there in person
to watch you kick it through the uprights, then I'm
(01:45):
a little scared. Joe joining us just a little while
ago saying that he thinks Ryan Fitzgerald, the rookie out
of Florida State, he's going to be the guy that
ends up with the starting job. But he didn't sound
too confident in it, and it's not again by him
just being extremely accurate in training camp or at FanFest,
and so it does have me a little concerned. I'm
(02:06):
hoping that once we get through training camp, Fitzgerald maybe
gets the job, and then everything is just fine and dandy.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Once we get to the regular season.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
People are comparing this a lot to the Harrison Butker
Graham Gano situation. I think that there are a couple
of differences here. One, Graham Gano was good, yes, and
he legitimately beat Butker out in that training camp battle.
Gano was the better kicker. I understand that you wanted to,
at least hindsight, being twenty twenty the way that it is,
(02:35):
I understand that you felt like you could have saved
some money by just sticking with the seventh round kicker
that Dave Gettlman drafted in the seventh round.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Totally understand that.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But he lost the kicking battle, and they tried to
keep him on the roster for I think a couple
of weeks. They kept two kickers on the roster through
the first two weeks of the season because they did
not want to allow him to be picked up by
another team. So they did like it all that to say,
there's no Graham Gano on this roster right now. Somebody
that you can trust to that level.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh lord, no, Now, Matthew Wright, guys, he is a journeyman.
He is not somebody that has been consistent in his career.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And but Kurt had a better performance in camp than
what Fitzgerald is having right now. So I do think
there are some differences. That was a good kicking battle,
this one, I wouldn't describe it as a good kicking battle.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I knew this might be, this might be the worst
one that we've seen.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So yeah, because I mean, we had some good stuff
from San Gonzalez for a little bit. Eddie p Eddie
de Naro, Pinero had him for a while. You know,
just don't have the strong legs with some of those guys,
but they were pretty accurate. I hope it's Fitzgerald and
then he just gets through some of the rookie struggles.
But who knows. I can't tell you. I feel confidence.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I think Joe one of the things that he brought
up there, I think's right. I think the kicker might
not even be on the roster right now. I think
there's a chance that there could go out and find something.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Which is frustrating one which is great having to rely
on somebody else to release a more talented kicker. I
guess it did work for Kansas city in the Harriston
but Ker example, I just don't think that happens a
whole lot of the time. What else you got flound.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
All right, Let's go to Ted McMillan.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
He was talking on Friday after practice and he was
talking about how the level of physicality in camp is
different than he expected.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Uh No, it's a little bit different. It's a little
bit different play style from colls to the league game.
You know, the refs let the players play at the
end of the day. So you know, I got to
earn my stripe to get some calls around here, and
that's only gonna make me better and being able to
play through the contact.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
All right, So what do you make of his comments
right there?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
We were just talking, you know, we've been talking throughout
the show really about his issues with getting off for
press coverage. Then you hear there kind of saying about
the refs and everything like that. So what do you
think about his comments there?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We heard this from XL last year too, more so
even at the end of last season, that there were
plenty of things that you could get away with playing
wide receiver in college football that you just can't at
all in the NFL. You do not have any margin
for error. You have to be precise on everything that
you do, and it is a wake up call for
even the most talented of wide receivers. I don't know
(05:07):
if you've seen some of these clips circulating on Twitter,
but have you seen the Justin Jefferson camp tweets going
out where he's talking to these young wide receivers that
he's working with, and the attention to detail from Justin
Jefferson is really impressive. He's discussing, hey, you're getting too
choppy at your break. He's talking about some of the
releases and some of the hand fighting nuances that come
(05:29):
with playing that position. It goes to show you, Okay,
when you're that kind of athlete, you have among the
best hands in all of football, and you're that precise
and you pay attention with that level of detail, there's
so many boxes you have to check off to becoming
a great NFL wide receiver, and I think some of
those clips coming out there are a lot of fun
to go watch. You apply that to some of the
(05:50):
younger receivers here in Carolina and you can imagine there's
a little bit of a curve, there's a little bit
of a growing process that you have to partake in.
I hope that Tea Matt can grow earlier rather than later,
sooner rather than later.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I'm hoping that happens.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I am convinced that that can happen because of a
guy like Jefferson who had two games where again he
combined for seventy yards. I was looking at the Mike
Evans stats early in his rookie season two and it
took him a while and actually like some thirty yard
performances fifty sixty to forty boom. He goes off for
like three straight one hundred yard games in order to
(06:27):
get to one thousand yards his rookie season. But still
the second half a mon Ross Saint Brown, same type
of rookie season for him, despite being a fourth round guy,
really came on strong the second half. So I think
that's a common thing. I think what's common from these
top flight receivers they show you something immediately. In terms
(06:48):
of years, they show you something their first year. I
don't know if they show you everything in the first
half of their rookie seasons. I think Lad McCaughey is
another example flounder. Last year. Lad was good but not
amazing his first half of the season, second half, ballin' playoffs.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That's your guy.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's the go to guy for Herbert. So if t
Mat can give me something from week eight on to
show you that I'm that guy, I'll be cool with
what he gives us his first year in the NFL.
What else you got?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
All right? We move on to j C.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Horn, who was asked about his starting quarterback and he
compared him to.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
A point guard.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Okay, he kind of reminds me of like Steph Curry
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
He a silent killer.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
He gonna he might show pop it a little bit,
but you know, he ain't gonna say too much. But
when I get under his skin and I hear to
real him, I'm like, Okay, I know he a real
dog and a real killer. So you know, I let
to see him make plays and like I said, just
go back and forth with him and just get we.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Get each other better. So do we like this comparison
for JC or we still scarred?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I know this one's okay, he's a point guard.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
They don't have to spend money.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's a promo we still run to this day. After
David Tepper not help but come from behind the backdrop
when things were pointing in the right direction and he
wanted to speak to the media so badly he couldn't help.
But he's over here, guys, we found a loophol. Okay,
you know all my thoughts on that. The difference here
is it's okay to call him a point guard if
(08:19):
you don't equate that with not having to spend money
or invest in the position. They've clearly invested a lot
in wide receiver. So if you want to call Bryce
Young a point guard, hey, that's all fine. In fact,
I would agree with that. Just don't let that dictate
how you address or don't address the wide receiver spot.
They keep drafting wide receivers in the first two rounds.
(08:41):
You got to hit on them. But I actually like
them investing in some of these pass catchers to help
Bryce Young. So Jalen Coker clearly very good as an
undrafted guy. They spent a little money on Adam thieland
they bringing him back. They spent a top ten pick,
despite needing defense pretty badly, they still spent a top
ten pick on what many people thought was the best
(09:01):
wide receiver in the entire draft class. That's absolutely not nothing,
so they keep investing in wide receiver. That's where it's
okay to.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Call him a point guard.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Don't.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Don't call him a point guard. With the notion that
we're just not going to invest in wide receiver, that's
when it gets to be something problematic.
We got to call him through some sound time. Now
for the Live Wire with mister Flounding. A. Sorry, I
didn't right, that was I'd help you out did on
the talk and you did. That's all right about this?
From dive bars to live bars. Oh very nice, I
(00:21):
take us away, all right.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We go with Dave Canalis, the head coach of the
Carolina Panthers. He was talking after Saturday's fan fest and
was asked about Ryan Fitzgerald missing a couple of kicks
and why Matthew Wright did not kick the entire night.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
You know, Fitzgerald had a couple of miss kicks, and
how come Matthew didn't kill?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Oh, it's just a practice. So this happened to be
the practice that Ryan was kicking, you know, So you
missed a couple. So we're just learning more about the
guys that we have attempts, something beyond the skinny post though.
I mean, it was good and to see him, you know,
with with the whole environment, you know, and even right
there that was a that situation was down three, you know,
to tie it up to go to overtime, you know,
(01:02):
so a little extra added pressure, you know, for that situation.
I thought Jack Plummer did a great job getting us
down there. The guys operated well and we got to
finish those.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So yeah, Ryan Fitzgerald misses on two forty eight yard
field goals, one clangs off the upright. That was the
one that ended practice.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Wo.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
How concerned are you about where the kicking battle is?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, a little bit not great. I mean the fact
that nobody wants to win this job. And if you
were missing a couple of field goals on hashtag skinny posts,
then I was okay with it. But if you're missing
two field goals as soon as the lights are on
and you have to kick with maybe a tiny bit
of pressure from the fan base being there in person
to watch you kick it through the uprights, then I'm
(01:45):
a little scared. Joe joining us just a little while
ago saying that he thinks Ryan Fitzgerald, the rookie out
of Florida State, he's going to be the guy that
ends up with the starting job. But he didn't sound
too confident in it, and it's not again by him
just being extremely accurate in training camp or at FanFest,
and so it does have me a little concerned. I'm
(02:06):
hoping that once we get through training camp, Fitzgerald maybe
gets the job, and then everything is just fine and dandy.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Once we get to the regular season.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
People are comparing this a lot to the Harrison Butker
Graham Gano situation. I think that there are a couple
of differences here. One, Graham Gano was good, yes, and
he legitimately beat Butker out in that training camp battle.
Gano was the better kicker. I understand that you wanted to,
at least hindsight, being twenty twenty the way that it is,
(02:35):
I understand that you felt like you could have saved
some money by just sticking with the seventh round kicker
that Dave Gettlman drafted in the seventh round.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Totally understand that.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But he lost the kicking battle, and they tried to
keep him on the roster for I think a couple
of weeks. They kept two kickers on the roster through
the first two weeks of the season because they did
not want to allow him to be picked up by
another team. So they did like it all that to say,
there's no Graham Gano on this roster right now. Somebody
that you can trust to that level.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh lord, no, Now, Matthew Wright, guys, he is a journeyman.
He is not somebody that has been consistent in his career.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And but Kurt had a better performance in camp than
what Fitzgerald is having right now. So I do think
there are some differences. That was a good kicking battle,
this one, I wouldn't describe it as a good kicking battle.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I knew this might be, this might be the worst
one that we've seen.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So yeah, because I mean, we had some good stuff
from San Gonzalez for a little bit. Eddie p Eddie
de Naro, Pinero had him for a while. You know,
just don't have the strong legs with some of those guys,
but they were pretty accurate. I hope it's Fitzgerald and
then he just gets through some of the rookie struggles.
But who knows. I can't tell you. I feel confidence.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I think Joe one of the things that he brought
up there, I think's right. I think the kicker might
not even be on the roster right now. I think
there's a chance that there could go out and find something.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Which is frustrating one which is great having to rely
on somebody else to release a more talented kicker. I
guess it did work for Kansas city in the Harriston
but Ker example, I just don't think that happens a
whole lot of the time. What else you got flound.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
All right, Let's go to Ted McMillan.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
He was talking on Friday after practice and he was
talking about how the level of physicality in camp is
different than he expected.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Uh No, it's a little bit different. It's a little
bit different play style from colls to the league game.
You know, the refs let the players play at the
end of the day. So you know, I got to
earn my stripe to get some calls around here, and
that's only gonna make me better and being able to
play through the contact.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
All right, So what do you make of his comments
right there?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
We were just talking, you know, we've been talking throughout
the show really about his issues with getting off for
press coverage. Then you hear there kind of saying about
the refs and everything like that. So what do you
think about his comments there?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We heard this from XL last year too, more so
even at the end of last season, that there were
plenty of things that you could get away with playing
wide receiver in college football that you just can't at
all in the NFL. You do not have any margin
for error. You have to be precise on everything that
you do, and it is a wake up call for
even the most talented of wide receivers. I don't know
(05:07):
if you've seen some of these clips circulating on Twitter,
but have you seen the Justin Jefferson camp tweets going
out where he's talking to these young wide receivers that
he's working with, and the attention to detail from Justin
Jefferson is really impressive. He's discussing, hey, you're getting too
choppy at your break. He's talking about some of the
releases and some of the hand fighting nuances that come
(05:29):
with playing that position. It goes to show you, Okay,
when you're that kind of athlete, you have among the
best hands in all of football, and you're that precise
and you pay attention with that level of detail, there's
so many boxes you have to check off to becoming
a great NFL wide receiver, and I think some of
those clips coming out there are a lot of fun
to go watch. You apply that to some of the
(05:50):
younger receivers here in Carolina and you can imagine there's
a little bit of a curve, there's a little bit
of a growing process that you have to partake in.
I hope that Tea Matt can grow earlier rather than later,
sooner rather than later.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I'm hoping that happens.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I am convinced that that can happen because of a
guy like Jefferson who had two games where again he
combined for seventy yards. I was looking at the Mike
Evans stats early in his rookie season two and it
took him a while and actually like some thirty yard
performances fifty sixty to forty boom. He goes off for
like three straight one hundred yard games in order to
(06:27):
get to one thousand yards his rookie season. But still
the second half a mon Ross Saint Brown, same type
of rookie season for him, despite being a fourth round guy,
really came on strong the second half. So I think
that's a common thing. I think what's common from these
top flight receivers they show you something immediately. In terms
(06:48):
of years, they show you something their first year. I
don't know if they show you everything in the first
half of their rookie seasons. I think Lad McCaughey is
another example flounder. Last year. Lad was good but not
amazing his first half of the season, second half, ballin' playoffs.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That's your guy.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's the go to guy for Herbert. So if t
Mat can give me something from week eight on to
show you that I'm that guy, I'll be cool with
what he gives us his first year in the NFL.
What else you got?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
All right? We move on to j C.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Horn, who was asked about his starting quarterback and he
compared him to.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
A point guard.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Okay, he kind of reminds me of like Steph Curry
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
He a silent killer.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
He gonna he might show pop it a little bit,
but you know, he ain't gonna say too much. But
when I get under his skin and I hear to
real him, I'm like, Okay, I know he a real
dog and a real killer. So you know, I let
to see him make plays and like I said, just
go back and forth with him and just get we.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Get each other better. So do we like this comparison
for JC or we still scarred?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I know this one's okay, he's a point guard.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
They don't have to spend money.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's a promo we still run to this day. After
David Tepper not help but come from behind the backdrop
when things were pointing in the right direction and he
wanted to speak to the media so badly he couldn't help.
But he's over here, guys, we found a loophol. Okay,
you know all my thoughts on that. The difference here
is it's okay to call him a point guard if
(08:19):
you don't equate that with not having to spend money
or invest in the position. They've clearly invested a lot
in wide receiver. So if you want to call Bryce
Young a point guard, hey, that's all fine. In fact,
I would agree with that. Just don't let that dictate
how you address or don't address the wide receiver spot.
They keep drafting wide receivers in the first two rounds.
(08:41):
You got to hit on them. But I actually like
them investing in some of these pass catchers to help
Bryce Young. So Jalen Coker clearly very good as an
undrafted guy. They spent a little money on Adam thieland
they bringing him back. They spent a top ten pick,
despite needing defense pretty badly, they still spent a top
ten pick on what many people thought was the best
(09:01):
wide receiver in the entire draft class. That's absolutely not nothing,
so they keep investing in wide receiver. That's where it's
okay to.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Call him a point guard.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Don't.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Don't call him a point guard. With the notion that
we're just not going to invest in wide receiver, that's
when it gets to be something problematic.
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