September 30, 2025 • 20 mins
In this edition of the Live Wire, the guys react to Rex Ryan's strong criticism of Shedeur Sanders, Cam Ward's strong criticism of his team and Brandon Miller's praise of Colin Sexton's game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's jump right on end for some sound with flound
hit it in the West and the West.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Live wise, all right, and let's begin with Dave Dorin,
not Dave Canalis, the other Dave that has a little
bit of pressure right now with where his team is
at this season.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
He was talking yesterday, was asked a question.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I would guess this was from a student reporter if
I had to say, and he was talking about the pressure,
the outside pressure that he's receiving it now. He really
isn't worried about the outside noise that's going on.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Other than having to talk to you guys, I don't
know that there's noise. I know that there is because
that's what our world does right now, but I don't
pay attention to any of that. My job is to
stay focused on what's going on inside these walls with
these young men. Externally, besides being a husband and a father,
my job's to recruit. My job's not to live listen
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to you or the media or anyone else about their
opinion of our program. It's to do everything that I
can to help these guys win the next game. And
that's same thing I'm telling them. And you find out
who your friends are. You know, you guys all go
through tough things too. You'll find out who's loyal and
who isn't during tough times, and you know, you got
to block the people out of your life that aren't
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that way, you don't need to read negative things, you
don't need to pay attention to negative things. You control
what you can and you surround yourself with people that
want to do the same. And so, you know, my
advice to anybody, not just our players, is you know,
being a circle of friends that promote your growth. You
don't listen to things that people tell you that you
don't ask for advice from. And I'm sure they're not
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getting on social media asking for advice, So why I
pay attention to what people are saying. And you know
it's one thing to say you want us to win
when we're winning, and when we lose, to say that
you want us to leave, that's not loyalty. And so
we're going to be loyal to the people little loyal
to us. And that's these players, that's these coaches. We're
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gonna fight together, We're gonna fight hard.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh so, little little bit of a shot at the
fan base there at the end from Dave Doran. Do
you believe him that he is not worried about the
outside talking coming after his job.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, no, doubt about it. He's been fired. You know,
people say a lot of things. They say, if I
had a penny for every time I drove down this street,
if I had a nickel for every time I heard
somebody say something. If if I had a dollar for
every State fan that fired Dave Doran, I would.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Be uber rich. You wouldn't be here, yep, I would
be uber rich.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
And so that's the thing. Dave Durrant Dorn has heard
it all, seen it all. He's not worried about it.
You talk about seven eight plus win seasons, four nine
win seasons. So if he was sitting up there worried
about what State fans were saying, he would have been
quit by now or went and done something else. So
he is completely unbothered. He goes through this. Every loss
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that NC State takes, he has fired, he has done
what is his buyout every single time.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
I don't think it's bad advice that he gave. I
do think he cares a little bit about what people say,
maybe not in the sense of it bothers him and
he loses sleep at night, but he definitely takes note
of it. And I'll always remember the Steve Smith and
Dave dor and back and forth when Steve Smith said
NC State is a basketball school and he heard those
comments despite shielding himself in a dark room, not hearing
any outside noise. That's some noise that got through that
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dark room. And he heard that. And then he had
something something he said and Drake May when he talked
about NC State, he had something for Drake May, and
he had something for the North Carolina fan base. But
that's all in good fun as well. I don't know
if Dave Doran is losing any sleep. But these coaches,
they like to tell you they don't hear anything, and
they hear stuff. It's just all about how they choose
to react to it. That's the point I would like
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to make. All Right, we move on to Rex Ryan.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He was talking about Shador Sanders and he was very
very critical of the young quarterback for the Browns, saying
how he likes to talk and run his mouth and
that he can't that he is not a starting quarterback
in this league.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Stefanski is one of the I mean, an outstanding coach.
All right, but why the hell isn't he putting should
or Sanders. We're all waiting to see this Shad or
Sanders be the guy, or Gabriel whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Something's missing, something's missing with this kid.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
This kid talks, He runs his mouth like he's a
I could be a starting quarterback with his arms crossed
like this. Get your ass in the front row and
study and do all that. If I know, the whole
league knows, quld be in an embarrassment that way. You
got the talent to be the quarterback, you should be
you should be embarrassed that you're not the quarterback now.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
All right?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So do you agree with the criticism that Rex Ryan
has for him. He's basically pointing out that he doesn't
believe that he stands on the sideline where he's supposed to.
He doesn't believe that he is studying the playbook the
way that he is supposed to do. Do you think
there's a fair criticism there from Rex Ryan?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I just agree.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I think that Sanders, you know, he just like he said,
talks a little bit too much for him to say
that he's better than half the quarterbacks starting in the league.
And you aren't even the backup on your own team
for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I think that that is pretty telling.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
And yeah, I get confidence, and you need that to
be a great athlete, and you need all the confidence
in the world to be able to step up and
be a starting quarterback in the NFL. It's American royalty. Hell,
it's almost global royalty, for God's sake. But I think
that your door does need to just keep quiet, keep
his nose, you know, saying, just keep it down, keep grinding.
And then when he gets his opportunity, because I think
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before the season is over with, I think he may
end up getting a shot at it. But for him
to come out and say some of the things that
he's saying, like I said, I hate the lack of
self awareness because, as I said, to be able to
say that, yeah, I'm better than half the starting quarterbacks
in this league, but you're not the backup on your team,
that's not a good look.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
It reminds me a lot of when Lebron James was
laughing and saying, Bronnie James is better than half of
the NBA players in that league. And Bronnie James is
not better than half of the NBA players that are
in the league right now. I don't think Shador Sanders
is better than half of the quarterbacks in the NFL. Now,
if Shador Sanders does get his shot with the Cleveland Browns,
I really am quite curious as to how that would
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look because I think that there is some stuff there.
I don't think Shador is completely talentless. I do think
that the headaches that he brings right now, with all
the comments and the way that he feels about himself.
I don't know if teammates don't like him in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I don't want to speculate, but does seem like Shador
Sanders thinks pretty highly of himself, And if he thinks
he's better than half of the quarterbacks in the league,
I'm sure he doesn't agree with sitting behind Joe Flacco
and sitting behind Dylan Gabriel. And if that's the case,
I can't imagine that that's a beautiful relationship in the
quarterback room with all three of those guys. And it
seems like Shadoor is the one that's ousting himself. It
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just continues to seem to me Wes that he's making
bad decisions all across the board with his entering the NFL.
Once he's in the NFL, he continues to make bad decisions,
and I just don't know if there's anybody telling him contrary.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
And if he's listening to him, if he's listening to
his dad, his dad is gasting him up. He's always
gassed him up, and I just don't know if that's
the advice that he should be listening to, even though
I don't know if he's going to listen to anything else.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
All right, well we move on to I forgot which
SoundBite we're going to next. Cam Ward. He was talking
about his team. Guys, it could be worse. The Titans
are owing for They just got shut out by the
Houston Texans, a team that isn't necessarily great, and they
are on the verge of firing Brian Callahan. I know
that was your guy Walker at one point during the
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coaching church before they landed on Dave Canalis.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Cam Ward puts it pretty plainly right here.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
I mean, we're keeping a book right now, we ask
so we own four. We have this point, we got
none to lose. We dropped a court of our games
and we've yet to do anything. So we have to
lock in, especially myself on the offensive line, from the
defensive line, from the special teams to all three faces.
We have to play together. We have not played together
this year yet.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
All right, So some people have said that this was
a little too harsh, especially coming from a rookie quarterback.
But what do you think about these statements from cam
Ward on his own team?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I hate it. I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
When I heard him say it, I immediately cringed Cam Newton.
I mean not Cam Newton. Cam Ward has been cursing
and interviewed since he got into the league. He has
a stop. You got to be more of a professional
on the podium. I get what he's saying. I get
the spirit of a message, but you also got to
understand too, obviously, being the quarterback, the position that you're in,
being an African American quarterback, the position you're in. Kids
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looking at you as an example as well. I hated
that he got up there and you know, use the
type of language that he did. He could have got
his message across a lot better than that. But you know,
it's indicative of the way that the Titans. I'm playing
right now, and again I get it. He's angry. I
don't know how long after the game this was, or
whatever the case may be, but he's been doing this
kind of since the beginning, since he got in the league.
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Through the process, he's got to carry himself better. So
I couldn't stand this press conference from camp Wood.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yet it didn't bother me.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
But I also if he continued to violate FCC regulations,
that would be the big issue in my opinion, because
this one is a word that we actually use today.
So we've used this word today. I didn't mind it.
I also have not seen as many of the interviews
as you've talked about. I've seen some of the clips
with him and Shador Sanders playing football, and he's cursing
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quite a bit. So if he continues to do it
in interviews, yeah, you probably would advise him not to
if you're Tennessee pr. But what I would say is
just don't use any of the bad, bad ones. Don't
use any of the ones that would get the NFL
in trouble, because when you get the NFL in trouble,
now you're going to start to have to pay some money,
and you don't want to pay money on your rookie
scale deal. Even if you're making a lot of dell
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right now, you still don't want to have to pay
a lot of money if you start using the F word,
and you start using other ones, and then they're going
to have to come that paycheck. Now it becomes an
issue for you, like selfishly, don't say it. It's not
because you bring a bad image to Tennessee. It's because
we're trying to protect your wallet and maybe a little
bit of the Titans. So I didn't mind it. I
understood what he was saying here and what I really liked.
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The reason I like it, quite frankly, is because he
did take accountability himself, saying it starts with me, it
starts with the offensive line, it starts with everybody. I
think the bigger issue, especially in the locker room, is
if he would have separated himself rather than talk about
everybody in that arena, including himself. Schador, on the contrary,
seems to be separating himself from the team. It's me
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who's better than all of these other quarterbacks were cam
is very much. We we are an issue. Everybody is
the issue, including myself, and that's what needs to be fixed.
I'm gonna do everything that I can to fix my part.
Hopefully everybody does theirs.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, I think it actually showed some leadership, which is
what you want from your rookie quarterback. The thing is
you bring up a good point in terms of the
cursing and everything like that. When you're up doing press conferences,
maybe you don't have to bring those words to it
every single time.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Alter Nostalgia also says he did say the F word,
and you're not wrong. I forgot about that. So, yes,
the FCC stuff, Yeah, don't do that game. Yeah, yo,
I missed that part.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I heard the beat because I forgotten because I've seen
him too, and it hasn't been at the podium, but
I've seen him in interviews after the draft process once
he's been drafted, you know, like when they'll be like
post practice or something like that, and the reporters will
be around him hanging out and he gets loose.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
With his language in those things. Yeah, And I would
say we have this issue with LaMelo. We have Queen City.
Oh no, no, And it's an issue. I do think, Hey, LaMelo, like,
even for your money sake, I don't you got plenty
of it, but you don't have to pay all these fines. Man,
if you just tighten it up just a little bit, ye, Unfortunately,
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I think that limits all the stuff that he wants
to say, and we don't get very many soundbites. Is
what leads to your star player only having I think
a five minute session up there at the table when
he speaks at Meat. Yes, it was five minutes. Yeah,
So that's all it is with LaMelo. So you're not wrong,
I would say, is there a compromise, Just don't violate
any FCC regulations.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
He needs somebody to get in his ind tell him
to be a dog on pro because you see Jack's
message on the FANDUL text lineups well with how he
was talking to a media day.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So he just needs to do it.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
I do not, but I'm sure it's more cursing in
things that he's not allowed to say, and I will
and I will listen to that.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I'm trying to look forward with LaMelo.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's also a little bit different, Like I don't know,
have we We've seen Cam do interviews on television before,
and I feel like he's a little bit more. He
takes into account that you are on television. He kind
of knows Okay, probably can't curse on TV. It seems
like the press conferences he's really into the cursing though.
Well yeah, and I think he's trying to do it
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because he thinks it fires guys up. But somebody's just
got to tell him, like, dude, you can. You can
fire guys up and convey the message just a little
bit differently.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
One other thing about this real quickly found it. Correct
me if I'm wrong. Young speaks to media every single week. Correct, Yeah,
he speaks to them on Wednesdays. Yeah, that's right. So
that's an NFL rule. Quarterbacks, head coaches, quarterbacks coordinators, they
all speak to media every single week.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Unless your quarterbacks like questionable, I think then you don't have.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
To, right, But cam Ward is not questionable. He's your
starting quarterback. He's the first overall selection. With a LaMelo
type case, you don't have to put him up at
the table or at the lecterin or at the podium
wherever he's speaking, so you can dodge some of those issues.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
If you're tennessee cam has to go up there.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah, and it is just the fact though with LaMelo,
he's the guy, so you you don't have to. But
then you kind of do because he's the guy.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Fair, I guess there's no rule stadium every single week,
And maybe that's not true. Maybe it is every week
and we just don't see it every single game because
it's not apples to apples comparing the NFL schedule to
the NBA schedule. But I think that's what's interesting about
the NFL. In Tennessee. There's no hiding Cam. He has
to speak every single week. He's got to go up there,
and maybe it won't be with the same kind of
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fire after a loss. That's fair, But I imagine Tennessee
pr is talking to him saying, dude, can we chill
just a little bit?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
That would be great.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Which, all right, let's talk a little bit about LaMelo
balls team. We're not gonna talk about LaMelo specifically, but
yesterday we had a chance to sit down with Brandon
Miller and one of the guys that he was really
fired up to talk about was Colin Sexton, and he
says that the motor is the biggest reason why he's
fired up about him being a part of this team.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
But one thing about Colin, his motor is always going
to be high, you know, every day he walks into facility.
Every day he walks in the building, he's gonna have
a smile on his face talking to everybody, and then
he's gonna, you know, once he stepped into lines, it's
all business. It's gonna be no high motor Colin. And
you know, I think that's one thing fans won't have
to worry about Colin is his motor all right?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So simple question here.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
But a guy that is looking like he is going
to be the sixth man for the Hornets, is he
the X factor for this season for this team?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Ooh, X factor for this season? I would say no,
but not by much. But I think he's going to
pay a lot of dividends on and off the court.
On the court, as far as him taking good shots,
getting good shots for his teammates, that's going to be
a huge beneficial factor of him being out there. And
also to the way that you know, he can push
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LaMelo ball in practice and help him out during game scenarios,
that they can help each other with what they're seeing
and what they're doing. But yeah, I think that he's
gonna be big for the Horness this year. But I
don't know that I would call him the X factor.
I think he is.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
I think it might be well, Brandon Miller or Collin Sexton. Okay,
And so we had to do a twenty minute segment
for the Lockdown podcast network. Twenty minute, My god, I
don't know why I said that. A minute segment. I
don't know why I said twenty minutes. I don't know
why that number came to mind. But it wasn't that.
Can I do a twenty minute.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It happened.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
One minute segment, one minute segment. I have no clue
what's wrong with me. I had to give a one
minute clip thank you and send it in to the
higher ups at locked On, and they had us answer
the biggest question about each team, right, all of us
had to answer the biggest question by to each team.
So the biggest question I had for the Hornets or
whether LaMelo and Brandon would take the type of leap
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that would allow you to believe in them being the
duo that leads the squad to the postseason. And so
I think with that, we've already seen LaMelo make an
All Star team. We know that he's capable of it.
We don't know for sure that Brandon Miller is capable
of it, So that's why I might go with Brandon Miller.
The reason I'm going to go with Colin Sexton is
because at the very at the very least, you're going
to get good shooting numbers from a talented basketball player
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that we have seen get to twenty points per game
on decent efficiency. You'd like to see that go up
for Brandon. The overall forty field goal percentage is pretty bad,
but Brandon Miller I feel good about him being a
big time contributor. Same thing with LaMelo. With Colin, I
think so much of his X factor is what you
talked about challenging LaMelo in practice every single day, which
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is going to have an impact on the team, while
also being a guy that can just come off of
the bench or start and maybe give you fifteen points
per game, And is he going to drive to the
basket because we just don't have those types of players.
He gives you something very different in that regard. I
think that's why I would go with Colin sex But
Brandon Miller is also very close second to me with
that question.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
What else you got flound?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
All?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Right, Well, we finish up with the head coach of
the Carolina Panthers Dave Canalis speaking to media yesterday and
they had to be asked, what was the thought behind
the third and ten choice to run the football?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, I thought we.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Had an advantage in some of the fronts that we
were getting, and you thought we'd had a clean look
right there to try to steal some yards potentially get
us into a four down situation where we can keep
the drive going and try to get a touchdown out
of it. So we were kind of in that zone
right there. The run did not work out. They stopped
us right there, so we were forced to punt, all right.
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Your initial thought trying to keep the play going like
maybe fourth down, or was it trying to get a
little closer for a field goal?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Though both you could accomplish.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
You could accomplish either thing in that situation, and we
thought we had an advantage.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
It didn't work out, all right.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
So do you understand now a little bit more where
Dave is coming from or is it still egregious that
he decided to run the ball on third and ten
with a play that eventually pretty much changed the game?
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Man?
Speaker 4 (18:24):
You know, a football is so situational, and so when
coaches come out and say stuff like that. Play calling
is so tough, and you could disagree with it, obviously,
but I think that sometimes coaches, man, they know that personnel,
they know what they have, and they just feel like
in a situation like that, which I think it does
kind of speak to the fact that he feels terrified
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to have to try and get ten yards because he
looked at the passing charge. They don't really push the
football down the field like that, So I guess it
felt like in that situation that he thought that it
could end up in a turnover, or he was just
scared to death that maybe it could. But I think
it does speak to some of the points that we
were talking to earlier, just calling an uber conservative game plan,
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that he is just petrified of the bad outcomes.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Scared money don't make none, didn't make any against the
New England Patriots, and you played scared, you called scared.
If ric o'dowdell, let's say that you actually do have
a successful play on that rundown? What ended up being
a rundown? So ric o'dowdell goes for seven eight yards?
What are you looking at? A four and five? I
forget the yards?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
There was it?
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Third and fifteen that he ran, or was it third
and ten, third and ten, third and ten? There was five,
So now you're looking at a fourth and five. It's
not the greatest in the world. I'd like to get
it even closer than that to where maybe then you
can run the football. But even still now you have
to pass at some point, I guess would be my question,
because are you going to run it on third and
ten and four and fourth and five, like, at some
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point you're going to have to pass the football if
you want to get back into this thing, or you
just settle for the field goal? To which are we
talking about three more yards being all the difference and
Ryan Fitzgerald? And if so, then maybe Ryan Fitzgerald isn't
the kicker like that we thought he might be after
the after the first three games.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But I didn't like the answer.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
It speaks to something larger than just those specific runs,
and that he looked like he was calling that game
scared and scared. Money just doesn't win you any football games, man,
And you got destroyed in this one. Even when you
were down, it didn't look like you had a sense
of urgency to get back in that football game.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
That has to fall on coaching that has to fall
on coaching
Let's jump right on end for some sound with flound
hit it in the West and the West.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Live wise, all right, and let's begin with Dave Dorin,
not Dave Canalis, the other Dave that has a little
bit of pressure right now with where his team is
at this season.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
He was talking yesterday, was asked a question.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I would guess this was from a student reporter if
I had to say, and he was talking about the pressure,
the outside pressure that he's receiving it now. He really
isn't worried about the outside noise that's going on.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Other than having to talk to you guys, I don't
know that there's noise. I know that there is because
that's what our world does right now, but I don't
pay attention to any of that. My job is to
stay focused on what's going on inside these walls with
these young men. Externally, besides being a husband and a father,
my job's to recruit. My job's not to live listen
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to you or the media or anyone else about their
opinion of our program. It's to do everything that I
can to help these guys win the next game. And
that's same thing I'm telling them. And you find out
who your friends are. You know, you guys all go
through tough things too. You'll find out who's loyal and
who isn't during tough times, and you know, you got
to block the people out of your life that aren't
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that way, you don't need to read negative things, you
don't need to pay attention to negative things. You control
what you can and you surround yourself with people that
want to do the same. And so, you know, my
advice to anybody, not just our players, is you know,
being a circle of friends that promote your growth. You
don't listen to things that people tell you that you
don't ask for advice from. And I'm sure they're not
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getting on social media asking for advice, So why I
pay attention to what people are saying. And you know
it's one thing to say you want us to win
when we're winning, and when we lose, to say that
you want us to leave, that's not loyalty. And so
we're going to be loyal to the people little loyal
to us. And that's these players, that's these coaches. We're
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gonna fight together, We're gonna fight hard.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh so, little little bit of a shot at the
fan base there at the end from Dave Doran. Do
you believe him that he is not worried about the
outside talking coming after his job.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, no, doubt about it. He's been fired. You know,
people say a lot of things. They say, if I
had a penny for every time I drove down this street,
if I had a nickel for every time I heard
somebody say something. If if I had a dollar for
every State fan that fired Dave Doran, I would.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Be uber rich. You wouldn't be here, yep, I would
be uber rich.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
And so that's the thing. Dave Durrant Dorn has heard
it all, seen it all. He's not worried about it.
You talk about seven eight plus win seasons, four nine
win seasons. So if he was sitting up there worried
about what State fans were saying, he would have been
quit by now or went and done something else. So
he is completely unbothered. He goes through this. Every loss
(03:00):
that NC State takes, he has fired, he has done
what is his buyout every single time.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
I don't think it's bad advice that he gave. I
do think he cares a little bit about what people say,
maybe not in the sense of it bothers him and
he loses sleep at night, but he definitely takes note
of it. And I'll always remember the Steve Smith and
Dave dor and back and forth when Steve Smith said
NC State is a basketball school and he heard those
comments despite shielding himself in a dark room, not hearing
any outside noise. That's some noise that got through that
(03:28):
dark room. And he heard that. And then he had
something something he said and Drake May when he talked
about NC State, he had something for Drake May, and
he had something for the North Carolina fan base. But
that's all in good fun as well. I don't know
if Dave Doran is losing any sleep. But these coaches,
they like to tell you they don't hear anything, and
they hear stuff. It's just all about how they choose
to react to it. That's the point I would like
(03:50):
to make. All Right, we move on to Rex Ryan.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He was talking about Shador Sanders and he was very
very critical of the young quarterback for the Browns, saying
how he likes to talk and run his mouth and
that he can't that he is not a starting quarterback
in this league.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Stefanski is one of the I mean, an outstanding coach.
All right, but why the hell isn't he putting should
or Sanders. We're all waiting to see this Shad or
Sanders be the guy, or Gabriel whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Something's missing, something's missing with this kid.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
This kid talks, He runs his mouth like he's a
I could be a starting quarterback with his arms crossed
like this. Get your ass in the front row and
study and do all that. If I know, the whole
league knows, quld be in an embarrassment that way. You
got the talent to be the quarterback, you should be
you should be embarrassed that you're not the quarterback now.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
All right?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So do you agree with the criticism that Rex Ryan
has for him. He's basically pointing out that he doesn't
believe that he stands on the sideline where he's supposed to.
He doesn't believe that he is studying the playbook the
way that he is supposed to do. Do you think
there's a fair criticism there from Rex Ryan?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I just agree.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I think that Sanders, you know, he just like he said,
talks a little bit too much for him to say
that he's better than half the quarterbacks starting in the league.
And you aren't even the backup on your own team
for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I think that that is pretty telling.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
And yeah, I get confidence, and you need that to
be a great athlete, and you need all the confidence
in the world to be able to step up and
be a starting quarterback in the NFL. It's American royalty. Hell,
it's almost global royalty, for God's sake. But I think
that your door does need to just keep quiet, keep
his nose, you know, saying, just keep it down, keep grinding.
And then when he gets his opportunity, because I think
(05:35):
before the season is over with, I think he may
end up getting a shot at it. But for him
to come out and say some of the things that
he's saying, like I said, I hate the lack of
self awareness because, as I said, to be able to
say that, yeah, I'm better than half the starting quarterbacks
in this league, but you're not the backup on your team,
that's not a good look.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
It reminds me a lot of when Lebron James was
laughing and saying, Bronnie James is better than half of
the NBA players in that league. And Bronnie James is
not better than half of the NBA players that are
in the league right now. I don't think Shador Sanders
is better than half of the quarterbacks in the NFL. Now,
if Shador Sanders does get his shot with the Cleveland Browns,
I really am quite curious as to how that would
(06:16):
look because I think that there is some stuff there.
I don't think Shador is completely talentless. I do think
that the headaches that he brings right now, with all
the comments and the way that he feels about himself.
I don't know if teammates don't like him in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I don't want to speculate, but does seem like Shador
Sanders thinks pretty highly of himself, And if he thinks
he's better than half of the quarterbacks in the league,
I'm sure he doesn't agree with sitting behind Joe Flacco
and sitting behind Dylan Gabriel. And if that's the case,
I can't imagine that that's a beautiful relationship in the
quarterback room with all three of those guys. And it
seems like Shadoor is the one that's ousting himself. It
(06:53):
just continues to seem to me Wes that he's making
bad decisions all across the board with his entering the NFL.
Once he's in the NFL, he continues to make bad decisions,
and I just don't know if there's anybody telling him contrary.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
And if he's listening to him, if he's listening to
his dad, his dad is gasting him up. He's always
gassed him up, and I just don't know if that's
the advice that he should be listening to, even though
I don't know if he's going to listen to anything else.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
All right, well we move on to I forgot which
SoundBite we're going to next. Cam Ward. He was talking
about his team. Guys, it could be worse. The Titans
are owing for They just got shut out by the
Houston Texans, a team that isn't necessarily great, and they
are on the verge of firing Brian Callahan. I know
that was your guy Walker at one point during the
(07:41):
coaching church before they landed on Dave Canalis.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Cam Ward puts it pretty plainly right here.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
I mean, we're keeping a book right now, we ask
so we own four. We have this point, we got
none to lose. We dropped a court of our games
and we've yet to do anything. So we have to
lock in, especially myself on the offensive line, from the
defensive line, from the special teams to all three faces.
We have to play together. We have not played together
this year yet.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
All right, So some people have said that this was
a little too harsh, especially coming from a rookie quarterback.
But what do you think about these statements from cam
Ward on his own team?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I hate it. I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
When I heard him say it, I immediately cringed Cam Newton.
I mean not Cam Newton. Cam Ward has been cursing
and interviewed since he got into the league. He has
a stop. You got to be more of a professional
on the podium. I get what he's saying. I get
the spirit of a message, but you also got to
understand too, obviously, being the quarterback, the position that you're in,
being an African American quarterback, the position you're in. Kids
(08:41):
looking at you as an example as well. I hated
that he got up there and you know, use the
type of language that he did. He could have got
his message across a lot better than that. But you know,
it's indicative of the way that the Titans. I'm playing
right now, and again I get it. He's angry. I
don't know how long after the game this was, or
whatever the case may be, but he's been doing this
kind of since the beginning, since he got in the league.
(09:03):
Through the process, he's got to carry himself better. So
I couldn't stand this press conference from camp Wood.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yet it didn't bother me.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
But I also if he continued to violate FCC regulations,
that would be the big issue in my opinion, because
this one is a word that we actually use today.
So we've used this word today. I didn't mind it.
I also have not seen as many of the interviews
as you've talked about. I've seen some of the clips
with him and Shador Sanders playing football, and he's cursing
(09:32):
quite a bit. So if he continues to do it
in interviews, yeah, you probably would advise him not to
if you're Tennessee pr. But what I would say is
just don't use any of the bad, bad ones. Don't
use any of the ones that would get the NFL
in trouble, because when you get the NFL in trouble,
now you're going to start to have to pay some money,
and you don't want to pay money on your rookie
scale deal. Even if you're making a lot of dell
(09:53):
right now, you still don't want to have to pay
a lot of money if you start using the F word,
and you start using other ones, and then they're going
to have to come that paycheck. Now it becomes an
issue for you, like selfishly, don't say it. It's not
because you bring a bad image to Tennessee. It's because
we're trying to protect your wallet and maybe a little
bit of the Titans. So I didn't mind it. I
understood what he was saying here and what I really liked.
(10:15):
The reason I like it, quite frankly, is because he
did take accountability himself, saying it starts with me, it
starts with the offensive line, it starts with everybody. I
think the bigger issue, especially in the locker room, is
if he would have separated himself rather than talk about
everybody in that arena, including himself. Schador, on the contrary,
seems to be separating himself from the team. It's me
(10:37):
who's better than all of these other quarterbacks were cam
is very much. We we are an issue. Everybody is
the issue, including myself, and that's what needs to be fixed.
I'm gonna do everything that I can to fix my part.
Hopefully everybody does theirs.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, I think it actually showed some leadership, which is
what you want from your rookie quarterback. The thing is
you bring up a good point in terms of the
cursing and everything like that. When you're up doing press conferences,
maybe you don't have to bring those words to it
every single time.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Alter Nostalgia also says he did say the F word,
and you're not wrong. I forgot about that. So, yes,
the FCC stuff, Yeah, don't do that game. Yeah, yo,
I missed that part.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I heard the beat because I forgotten because I've seen
him too, and it hasn't been at the podium, but
I've seen him in interviews after the draft process once
he's been drafted, you know, like when they'll be like
post practice or something like that, and the reporters will
be around him hanging out and he gets loose.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
With his language in those things. Yeah, And I would
say we have this issue with LaMelo. We have Queen City.
Oh no, no, And it's an issue. I do think, Hey, LaMelo, like,
even for your money sake, I don't you got plenty
of it, but you don't have to pay all these fines. Man,
if you just tighten it up just a little bit, ye, Unfortunately,
(11:50):
I think that limits all the stuff that he wants
to say, and we don't get very many soundbites. Is
what leads to your star player only having I think
a five minute session up there at the table when
he speaks at Meat. Yes, it was five minutes. Yeah,
So that's all it is with LaMelo. So you're not wrong,
I would say, is there a compromise, Just don't violate
any FCC regulations.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
He needs somebody to get in his ind tell him
to be a dog on pro because you see Jack's
message on the FANDUL text lineups well with how he
was talking to a media day.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So he just needs to do it.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
I do not, but I'm sure it's more cursing in
things that he's not allowed to say, and I will
and I will listen to that.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I'm trying to look forward with LaMelo.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's also a little bit different, Like I don't know,
have we We've seen Cam do interviews on television before,
and I feel like he's a little bit more. He
takes into account that you are on television. He kind
of knows Okay, probably can't curse on TV. It seems
like the press conferences he's really into the cursing though.
Well yeah, and I think he's trying to do it
(12:48):
because he thinks it fires guys up. But somebody's just
got to tell him, like, dude, you can. You can
fire guys up and convey the message just a little
bit differently.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
One other thing about this real quickly found it. Correct
me if I'm wrong. Young speaks to media every single week. Correct, Yeah,
he speaks to them on Wednesdays. Yeah, that's right. So
that's an NFL rule. Quarterbacks, head coaches, quarterbacks coordinators, they
all speak to media every single week.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Unless your quarterbacks like questionable, I think then you don't have.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
To, right, But cam Ward is not questionable. He's your
starting quarterback. He's the first overall selection. With a LaMelo
type case, you don't have to put him up at
the table or at the lecterin or at the podium
wherever he's speaking, so you can dodge some of those issues.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
If you're tennessee cam has to go up there.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah, and it is just the fact though with LaMelo,
he's the guy, so you you don't have to. But
then you kind of do because he's the guy.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Fair, I guess there's no rule stadium every single week,
And maybe that's not true. Maybe it is every week
and we just don't see it every single game because
it's not apples to apples comparing the NFL schedule to
the NBA schedule. But I think that's what's interesting about
the NFL. In Tennessee. There's no hiding Cam. He has
to speak every single week. He's got to go up there,
and maybe it won't be with the same kind of
(14:02):
fire after a loss. That's fair, But I imagine Tennessee
pr is talking to him saying, dude, can we chill
just a little bit?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
That would be great.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Which, all right, let's talk a little bit about LaMelo
balls team. We're not gonna talk about LaMelo specifically, but
yesterday we had a chance to sit down with Brandon
Miller and one of the guys that he was really
fired up to talk about was Colin Sexton, and he
says that the motor is the biggest reason why he's
fired up about him being a part of this team.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
But one thing about Colin, his motor is always going
to be high, you know, every day he walks into facility.
Every day he walks in the building, he's gonna have
a smile on his face talking to everybody, and then
he's gonna, you know, once he stepped into lines, it's
all business. It's gonna be no high motor Colin. And
you know, I think that's one thing fans won't have
to worry about Colin is his motor all right?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So simple question here.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
But a guy that is looking like he is going
to be the sixth man for the Hornets, is he
the X factor for this season for this team?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Ooh, X factor for this season? I would say no,
but not by much. But I think he's going to
pay a lot of dividends on and off the court.
On the court, as far as him taking good shots,
getting good shots for his teammates, that's going to be
a huge beneficial factor of him being out there. And
also to the way that you know, he can push
(15:18):
LaMelo ball in practice and help him out during game scenarios,
that they can help each other with what they're seeing
and what they're doing. But yeah, I think that he's
gonna be big for the Horness this year. But I
don't know that I would call him the X factor.
I think he is.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
I think it might be well, Brandon Miller or Collin Sexton. Okay,
And so we had to do a twenty minute segment
for the Lockdown podcast network. Twenty minute, My god, I
don't know why I said that. A minute segment. I
don't know why I said twenty minutes. I don't know
why that number came to mind. But it wasn't that.
Can I do a twenty minute.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It happened.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
One minute segment, one minute segment. I have no clue
what's wrong with me. I had to give a one
minute clip thank you and send it in to the
higher ups at locked On, and they had us answer
the biggest question about each team, right, all of us
had to answer the biggest question by to each team.
So the biggest question I had for the Hornets or
whether LaMelo and Brandon would take the type of leap
(16:17):
that would allow you to believe in them being the
duo that leads the squad to the postseason. And so
I think with that, we've already seen LaMelo make an
All Star team. We know that he's capable of it.
We don't know for sure that Brandon Miller is capable
of it, So that's why I might go with Brandon Miller.
The reason I'm going to go with Colin Sexton is
because at the very at the very least, you're going
to get good shooting numbers from a talented basketball player
(16:39):
that we have seen get to twenty points per game
on decent efficiency. You'd like to see that go up
for Brandon. The overall forty field goal percentage is pretty bad,
but Brandon Miller I feel good about him being a
big time contributor. Same thing with LaMelo. With Colin, I
think so much of his X factor is what you
talked about challenging LaMelo in practice every single day, which
(16:59):
is going to have an impact on the team, while
also being a guy that can just come off of
the bench or start and maybe give you fifteen points
per game, And is he going to drive to the
basket because we just don't have those types of players.
He gives you something very different in that regard. I
think that's why I would go with Colin sex But
Brandon Miller is also very close second to me with
that question.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
What else you got flound?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
All?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Right, Well, we finish up with the head coach of
the Carolina Panthers Dave Canalis speaking to media yesterday and
they had to be asked, what was the thought behind
the third and ten choice to run the football?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, I thought we.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Had an advantage in some of the fronts that we
were getting, and you thought we'd had a clean look
right there to try to steal some yards potentially get
us into a four down situation where we can keep
the drive going and try to get a touchdown out
of it. So we were kind of in that zone
right there. The run did not work out. They stopped
us right there, so we were forced to punt, all right.
(17:56):
Your initial thought trying to keep the play going like
maybe fourth down, or was it trying to get a
little closer for a field goal?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Though both you could accomplish.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
You could accomplish either thing in that situation, and we
thought we had an advantage.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
It didn't work out, all right.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
So do you understand now a little bit more where
Dave is coming from or is it still egregious that
he decided to run the ball on third and ten
with a play that eventually pretty much changed the game?
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Man?
Speaker 4 (18:24):
You know, a football is so situational, and so when
coaches come out and say stuff like that. Play calling
is so tough, and you could disagree with it, obviously,
but I think that sometimes coaches, man, they know that personnel,
they know what they have, and they just feel like
in a situation like that, which I think it does
kind of speak to the fact that he feels terrified
(18:45):
to have to try and get ten yards because he
looked at the passing charge. They don't really push the
football down the field like that, So I guess it
felt like in that situation that he thought that it
could end up in a turnover, or he was just
scared to death that maybe it could. But I think
it does speak to some of the points that we
were talking to earlier, just calling an uber conservative game plan,
(19:07):
that he is just petrified of the bad outcomes.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Scared money don't make none, didn't make any against the
New England Patriots, and you played scared, you called scared.
If ric o'dowdell, let's say that you actually do have
a successful play on that rundown? What ended up being
a rundown? So ric o'dowdell goes for seven eight yards?
What are you looking at? A four and five? I
forget the yards?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
There was it?
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Third and fifteen that he ran, or was it third
and ten, third and ten, third and ten? There was five,
So now you're looking at a fourth and five. It's
not the greatest in the world. I'd like to get
it even closer than that to where maybe then you
can run the football. But even still now you have
to pass at some point, I guess would be my question,
because are you going to run it on third and
ten and four and fourth and five, like, at some
(19:51):
point you're going to have to pass the football if
you want to get back into this thing, or you
just settle for the field goal? To which are we
talking about three more yards being all the difference and
Ryan Fitzgerald? And if so, then maybe Ryan Fitzgerald isn't
the kicker like that we thought he might be after
the after the first three games.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
But I didn't like the answer.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
It speaks to something larger than just those specific runs,
and that he looked like he was calling that game
scared and scared. Money just doesn't win you any football games, man,
And you got destroyed in this one. Even when you
were down, it didn't look like you had a sense
of urgency to get back in that football game.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
That has to fall on coaching that has to fall
on coaching
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