November 28, 2025 • 49 mins
Hour 2 starts with a College Football Playoff discussion. Also, is there a major disconnect between Dave Canales and Bryce Young?
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's the second hour of the Young Guns.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
We had a fun first hot.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We're hoping to have a lot more fun here in
the second hour and flound We're we're two maybe the
most fun weekend of the college football season because it's
it's rivalry weekend and there's you know, games that matter
starting today because you've got your ole miss and the
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Egg Bowl. You've got clean old fashioned hate, which is
not called that this year because we've now got a
titled sponsor stupid for one of the best rivalries in
college football. And then of course, you know tomorrow you've
got the game and an arbor, so on and so forth.
But you know, just kind of wanted to look back at,
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you know, Tuesday night, that's when we got the latest
batch of CFP rankings kind of just flew under the
radar here because we were still reeling from the Monday
night loss. There was a bunch of college basketball going on,
and there's no local teams of import that are going
to be playing the games of consequence this weekend, but
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you know, we still got regular season weekend ago and
championship Saturday ago before we get the twelve team playoff field.
What set out to you about this week's latest CFP rankings.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean, I think the thing that stood out
the most is that Miami ends up moving up a
spot ahead of Utah.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I think that makes a little bit of sense.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Utah struggling on the road against Kansas State, Miami taking
care of business on the road against Virginia Tech in
the way that many people thought that they would. But again,
you're getting closer and closer to Miami making it into
the College Football Playoff, And I think that's where the
debate really starts right there, is should that team be
in the College Football Playoff? With the losses that they have.
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Louisville starting to look worse and worse as the weeks
go along, SMU really doesn't look that bad, and I
think that's kind of what you're hoping for if you
are Miami. You're hoping that SMU finds a way to
win the ACC which is more than possible. I mean,
right now, SMU is one of the teams that has
you know, one of the best paths to the ACC
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Championship game. The only one that has a smoother path
than they do is Virginia.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Virginia.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
All they have to do is win and they're in
same thing though for SMU Or they could get in
with a Virginia loss. So I think that's probably the
best case scenario if you're Miami, because that would validate
the fact that would mean you would have, you know,
one of your losses would come against the college football
playoff team. You have a victory against a college football
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playoff team, And I think that's probably the scenario that
right now everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
In college football is watching well.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And I think the call is and effect of what
happened last week with the way that Pittsburgh just went
into Atlanta and beat the breaks off of Georgia Tech.
Is now Miami's final regular season game is against the
current top twenty five team in the CFP, So they
have a chance and what will be their final game
before selection Sunday, because they're just not going to make
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the ACC title game, you do have a chance to
get a statement win, which you know some teams don't
have that opportunity to get it. Really just comes down
to trust and do we trust Mario Cristobal? Do we
trust Carson Beck? Do we trust this Miami program to
go on the road in the cold and beat a
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good football team, a team that's capable of scoring points,
and a team that's head coach pretty much told you
to weks ago. They didn't give a damn about beating
about Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
What a horrendous count.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
They were preparing to beat Georgia Town and they were
preparing to beat Miami. Now, at the sake of getting
into an argument that I got into off the air
the other day that I don't want to rehash, let
alone rehash for forty minutes, this is how I feel
about Miami.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh, you don't think that NC State should be in
the college? Yeah, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Here's how I feel about Miami. Okay, with the way
that they put the playoff together, I believe they deserve
to be in because you've got the head to head
win over Notre Dame. Okay, I don't give a crap
that happened on the way back in Week one. You
beat them. Notre Dame is borring something unforeseen. Less they
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get beat this weekend, Notre Dame was going to the playoff,
and Notre Dame might be a bigger threat to win
the national championship this year than they were a year
ago because of how good that offense is, then they
can they can throw for it a lot more than
they could were last year. They were a ball control,
run heavy offense that relied on their defense. I don't
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want to devalue head to head. The second that you
put an undered a men, you leave Miami out, head
to head gets devalued. What's the point I'm playing these games.
Let's learn a computer pick who should pick a pick
and play for a national championship. With that being said,
if they did the playoff the way that it should
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be put together, which is finding the twelve best teams, yes,
I don't think Miami's one of the twelve best teams
in college football.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
So you don't believe so flounder you agree it should
not be the twelfth most deserving, it should be the
twelve best.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I do not believe that it should be the twelve
most deserving. I think it should be the teams that
you think are the best teams at that time in
the year. And that's one of the reasons why you
sort of questioned Miami. I mean, you lost to a
Louisville team that is just falling apart right now. I
mean you could say Louisville was better at the time,
but they are falling apart right now. SMU is a
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team that I look, I know they're probably gonna make
it to the ACC title game, but they're not as
good as they were a year now.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, that's exactly what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I don't think that they are as good as they
were a year ago, and I don't really think they're
that great of a football team. I mean, you gotta
think this is the first time that they have been
ranked all season long is in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
So my only thing against why I want the twelve
most deserving. And I understand for the ratings and all that,
probably everyone wants to quote unquote twelve best, but I
think those go hand in hand with what the records
tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I disagree. And now see, I see.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
If you want the twelve best teams, then don't even
play the regular season. Go off the top twelve from
the preseason rankings and throw them into the playoffs and say, well,
on paper, these are the twelve best teams, because it's like,
for me, what did the regular season games matter? If
by the end of it, you're gonna say, well, on paper,
this team has so much more talent than this team.
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Put the record aside. Who cares about that. That's where
it doesn't really make much sense. Like maybe for a
video game you want, yeah, just give me the twelve
highest overall teams and put them into a bracket. But
what's the point of playing the season? If you're overall,
it doesn't matter. If you're deserving of being a top
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twelve team based off your record, why are you going
to discount that for being well, on paper, this is
the better team.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I just I look at it. And this is.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Probably the biggest downside to the way college football has operated,
for it's really its entire existence, from the time they
started picking national championships, which back then the writers picked
and choose. Then you had the BCS come along, Now
we have the Playoff. It continues to evolve, but college football,
at its core, it's a hypothetical sport. You look at
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it and you look at it very hypothetically, and I
think it's the one sport where eye tests should matter.
More than any other sport that we have, because it's
not everything is created equal. Like you look at these
teams in the Big twelve outside of Texas Tech. Do
I think that BYU could go into the SEC and
be ten and one? Do I think Utah could go
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in the SEC and be nine and two?
Speaker 5 (08:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Could they go into Big ten and do what they've
done in the Big Twelve, I don't think they can.
Maybe maybe it is top heavy, but but but I
don't know. And that's that's how I look at this,
is that you know, when you look at college basketball
and you're and you're selecting your at large teams, you're
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putting thirty five at larges into a tournament field. I
do think their resume most deserving. I think that matters
because you're selecting three times as many teams as you
are in college football. I think at college football, I
think the resume should matter, which is why I don't
want to take away head to head, but I do
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think the eye tests and how these people evaluate these
teams should be the most important, because you know, I
want the best brand of football. I think we're going
to get a scenario. And this is why I've been
against playoff expansion the last couple of years. That is
why they need to stick at twelve. Look at last
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year's first round, most of the games were duds. What's
going to happen this year in the first round? I
think there is a significant gap and how with the
way they put the playoff together now, because you're not
putting the twelve best teams in, you're putting in the
twelve most deserving And let's just be frank, guys, some
of these teams are going to win conference championships, don't
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deserve to play for national championships, like whoever wins the
ACC or the Group of five.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
But I think that's something that you want to keep though,
because that's what makes the sport kind of special is
that you are going to have an ACC champion that's
going to be in there. You played your way into it.
Same thing with the American conference champion. More than likely
that's the team that's going to go. It's either them
or the Sun Bell team. Although I don't even think
James Madison's ranked if I remember correctly, so there is
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no way that they're actually gonna make it into the field.
So yeah, the American conference champion. I think they deserve
to make it into the field now this year the
way good to come, yes, and I agree with that.
I think that the way that they have it seeded
this year makes the most sense. Yes, that conference champion
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out of the American Conference is going to be the
twelfth seed. The conference champion from the ACC is probably
gonna be the eleven seed. And so that's what makes
the most sense to me, is that, uh, you put
those teams in now, that's gonna be The problem is
because right now as we sit here, based on the rankings,
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because there is a mathematical way for Miami to make it,
Miami is listed as the ACC team in yep, they're
gonna be the team that gets knocked out.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Here's my question. When you look at the teams that.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Are ahead of them, do you truly believe that they
are better than Alabama? No, I don't believe that either.
I have seen both of those teams play. I believe
that Alabama is the better football team, Notre Dame. That's
gonna be the one that's gonna be where the debate
comes up is because they played head to head. Miami
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won that matchup, and I think in some people's minds,
depending on what Miami does this week, they will feel
like Miami has turned it back in the right direction.
The easiest thing that can happen is Miami loses this week.
They lose this week, all this goes out the window.
We don't have to worry about this conversation about what
matters more. Yeah, there's no argument, and but's that gonna
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happen much on the table?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, but that's the thing. Is it going to happen?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I have no idea because I mean I would my
answer because it probably is going to be the most
controversial playoff decision that we've ever had. I think they
will probably win to set up that situation, but I
mean it's more than possible that they end up losing.
I mean, Maishenheinscheld the way that he's playing for Pittsburgh
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right now. I mean, I know he wasn't great against
Notre Dame, but I still think for for a true freshman,
he's playing some great football. This is going to be
a stiff test for Miami. So if they win, I
think they have they have a legitimate argument to get in.
But I just don't know how you say when you
sit here and you watch these teams play at this
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point in the season, how you would say that Miami
is better than Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Cool, because I think we all know. I think you
put an entre name back in hard rock Stadium. Dame
beats Miami. Yes, I agree. I don't think Miami could
go to South Ben and beat them. I don't think
on a neutral field Miami can beat them. He'll Billy
Hater writs in on the fangul Texa line, I test
equals excuse to pack in more SEC teams.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Okay, what we're debating right here?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Are there SEC teams that are making the field, And again,
tell me an SEC team that shouldn't make the field?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I think A and M is more than deserving.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yes, they should be in, no matter if they lose
today in Texas or not.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
All the SEC teams that are currently in deserve to
be in.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
But if you're if you want to convince me of
like a Texas or a Tennessee, then I'm not.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
But if Texas went with Texas, Texas shouldn't be in.
But okay, and this I had this written down, like,
could Michigan and Texas maybe win their way into the.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Playoff Michigan could with the win over a house.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Is if Michigan wins tonight, they gotta win at home
over the over the number three team in the country.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Now you have a bad loss.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
The loss at Florida is excusable and and and it's
not sometimes should be overlooked. But wouldn't a win against
a number the number three team in the country kind
of override the bad loss and hasn't. The way Texas
played the last four weeks of the season suggests that
they're playing closer to what they were back in the preseason,
which was the number one team in the country.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm not saying that they deserve to be in I mean,
they were uncompetitive in the game against Georgia. They were,
but even that was late in the season and their
defense looked terrible.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So do you I don't think they should be in.
You put if you put them on a neutral field, Yep.
You think Miami's bar in Texas, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I think so? You think so? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I think Miami would probably would probably beat them, because,
I mean, Texas, when they faced the best teams that
they've had on their schedule this year, they have now won.
So I feel like and I mean Ford to this point,
but they've got to win over Oklahoma, and if they
win today, they'd have a win over A and M.
Those are two top ten teams in the country. They're
not getting win. They're not beating A M. I mean,
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I wouldn't think so. But that game is at Texas.
They have been, you know they That's a good point.
They have been a weird team like that because they
have to win. Yes, I believe so. Yeah, we had
a bunch of games tonight. This a game the NFL
took over Thanksgiving Night, seven thirty ABC tonight, Shrump.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
There was a day in time, back when you were
like six, where you watched the Lions at one, six, seven,
the Cowboys at four thirty, and at eight o'clock you
watched A and M Texas. Yeah, and it was a
it was a glorious time. But the NFL's over, a sense,
taking over that time slot. Yeah, we got Georgia Georgia
Tech today at three thirty.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I'm excited. Let's get let's get eight more overtimes in
that one. Yeah, I think George is about to I
think Georgia Tech could beat them.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It would be wouldn't it make perfect sense for Georgia
Tech to beat them, and it's being absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But yeah, because that's the thing, what do they because
they're not they're you're not going from twenty three to
to twelve now one.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Week now, and I don't I don't think there's a
path for them. If there is a path for them
to win, to get into the ACC Championship game, it
was last really involves everybody losing.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And last week it was basically when and they were
in type of thing and they didn't show up. So
but just kind of getting back to the hillbilly haters
comment about I test equals more SEC teams and then
we're gonna get a break. I can't help the fact
they played better football. I can't help the fact that
their conference is better than the Big ten. I can't
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help that they're better than the Big twelve. And I
can't help that the better of the ACC. You know
what I say to those conferences?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Do better? Be better?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Do I want to sit up here and waive the
SEC flag? No, my school isn't in that conference yet
we will be. And you think you think I'm an
SEC defender, Now wait till the Carolina's in the SEC,
I'll be the biggest. It just means more sob you've
ever heard.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And y'all I think gets smoking this sea. But I
just like flound we watch we watched the sport every week.
There's a clear difference. There's a different level of football
that they play.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Man, And when I'm sitting here wanting to just be
entertained for four weeks while we're trying to determine a
national champion, I want the best freaking teams, and the SEC,
the SEC busts more of them than all these other conferences.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I mean, there's there's no team that I look at
that's inside the field and I say shouldn't be in
there Like Alabama. I think they are deserving of being
in there. I think they're one of the twelve best
teams in the entire country. And so to me, or really,
it's one of the ten best because we know that
the ACC is going to get one of their their
champions in. We know that the American Conference is probably
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gonna get their champion in. So really it then comes
down to the ten best teams. And when I look
at it, I think Alabama is clearly one of the
ten best teams. I think Oklahoma clearly one of the
ten best teams. Ole Miss clearly one of those teams. Like,
who are you dying to put in over these teams?
Like the only team that has a chance is the
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Michigan Wolverines. And I gotta be honest with you, I
don't really think they're all that great. Like when I've
watched them, especially their offense, I don't look at that
as a playoff offense. So I mean, yeah, I just
I don't know who they who people want in if
you want more ACC teams, and you are crazy because
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you cannot put these teams. They're not good enough, guys,
They're not. I'm sorry. Like you look at these teams
and you watch their level of play. All you gotta
do is watch how Notre Dame plays against SEC opponents,
and then watch when they play the top teams in
the ACC. They absolutely murder teams in the ACC. They
kill them. I mean it is unbelievable. And then you
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watch the way that they play SEC teams and they
struggle against them. That shows you the level of competition
is just different and it sucks. But I think that's
where we're at right.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Two quick things.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
The ranked SEC teams that are currently in top twenty
five in their non conference games against the ACC two
and one.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Okay uh.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And then secondly, we're talking about the most impactful games
this week. Got to throw in the Charlotte forty nine
ers there just because it's the last one of the
season and that means that they're done. Because this first
year for Tim albn Man, it's been it's been a
rough go. Injuries of plague, this team. I still believe
in albut I think he's gonna be a good coach.
But yeah, I think Charlotte forty nine er fans know,
you guys are out there, you're probably happy that.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
This is just the last one of the year.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
The same thing with South Carolina and Clemson. Tals Man,
Remember when we thought we're gonna talk about that later
in the show. We said to ourselves, you know what,
why are they putting that game at twelve o'clock because
we need that game in a later time slot because
that's gonna be a marquee game.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
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Speaker 5 (20:32):
All of everything. And I try to be really transparent
with the players and to own up to the places
in the areas I could do better in this situation,
and I want them to understand this is all of us.
We're accountable to each other. We're all pushing to try
to win, to try to improve our football, and I'm
certainly a part of that as a head coach and
of course as a play caller, so we often be
connected on that. We often be real about it, you know,
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and look at at the opportunities and while players make
it the scrutiny for you know, a misplay here on
this block there, I dropped past an air and throw
a mistackle. Those types of things happen. The coaches are
involved as well, and we all got to be on
the same page and be humble about it and be
looking forward to improving it. You know, for me as
a as a young, young, youngish play caller, you know,
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pretty early in my career. You know, every week is
a lesson for me. Every week there's something to take.
And I have great people around me that we talked to,
that we have accountability with, and I lean on those
guys because I want to get better as well as
to continue to do this process.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
All right, That was the voice of Panthers head coach
Dave Canalis. Actually a really good question from Big Nude
over at a Panther's presser earlier this week when he
was asked about how he evaluates himself as a play caller,
and look, man, there was there was no denying that
on Monday night. You know, for as bad as Bryce was,
and Bryce was not good, the play calling was not optimal.
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And I think maybe some people think when I bring
that up, I'm making excuses for Brian said, maybe I am.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
But it's not me that said that.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Dave Canalis, when he got done after the game and
when he talked on Tuesday flight out just said I
got to be better.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I did not put the offense in the position to
be as successful as we need it to be.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And I think I think that speaks volumes about the
kind of coach that he is, and I think it's
really why they've been able to enjoy the successful lound
they've been able to enjoy because when he screws it up,
and he has screwed it up quite a bit, he
has no problem looking them in the face and saying,
that's all me. And I think for a team that's
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still learning and growing with their head coach, it makes
it a lot easier, I think, to still believe in
him and want to play for him whenever he's willing
to take the ownership the way that he has at
different times this year after bad losses i e. The
Saints two weeks ago and this past week against the
Niners on Monday Football.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, I think you really like the accountability that you
get from your head coach because it just speaks volumes
to the rest of the locker room that, look, I
can make mistakes too, I'm not perfect. And I think
in the game against the Niners that was definitely the
case where you look at it and I mean, you know,
running the football pretty successfully, you give Rico one carry
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in the second half. Right, it was a seventeen yard
run and it was a successful run. So I mean, yeah,
you're hoping that you're gonna be it's gonna be a
much more run heavy game plan. This was the thing
that I was trying to say when we were talking
last week, and the thought was, man, go pass heavy,
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man use that to open up your running game or whatever.
I get that coming off of the week against the Falcons,
but again, when this team plays the Falcons, Bryce Young
plays different. He is a guy that steps it up
against the Falcon that is the one team that he owns.
So I didn't think you should read that much into
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that in terms of how you should dictate the way.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That you use your offense. But I so, what did
I say?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I said that was a game where you had to
feel it out, and what we were watching it felt
like you should have run the ball more because you
were not getting those winds downfield that you necessarily needed. Now,
I don't know how aggressive they were going downfield. I
think they could have been a little more aggressive in
that area. But also, I mean, you look at some
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of the play calls from Dave Canalis, I actually thought
some of them were pretty good. There were just mistakes
with execution from these guys. Where you know, a miss
block from Jatavian Sanders on the swing pattern to Chewba Hubbard,
you know that's a bigger play. If Jatavian Sanders actually
gets a block on a guy. You go back to
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the interception Vice's first interception, you know that play is open.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
It was there early in the round.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
He just helped me just he held the ball to long,
had a blocker right side right, and he he had
the option to run it and that would have allowed
them to succeed.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
So what's concerning about your belief though, with that flound
is that if Dave Canalis feels that way, how entited
will he be to change his play calling Because if
if in his mind all their lacking is the execution,
that he doesn't think his game plan was wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And I thought his game plan the other night was wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Well, anytime you run it nine times in a close
football game, yes, some some's wrong, especially whenever you're having
success with the wrong game.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
What did you think was wrong about the game plan though?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Did you think it was it was the running or
did you were you more concerned with the fact that
they didn't go downfield more off, No, because I think
once they want hey, hey, hold on Moran, the more
the normal wake up time.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
When they when they started pushing the ball down the field.
And mind you, they started doing it when it was
a two possession game, but not when they like they
still could have ran the ball. Like my thing wasn't
you know you you got to enjoy the experience of
watching Smoke and I watch a Panther football game together,
still not calling penalties guys, Like probably my biggest complaint
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was I wanted them to run the ball so they
could just hold onto the ball. Yes, they could not
have possession of the football for long at all compared
to what you saw from San Francisco, And that was
my big Like, there was at one point whereas like
early in the second quarter where like get you get
a good run and now yes, you're in like an
obvious passing down. And I know, like Greg Olsen will
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tell you that you should be aggressive in those downs
and you should want to push the football down the field.
But the second that you you know, getting in completion
and now you're basically at or behind the line of
scrimmery store.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You have to throw it.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
If you don't convert that third down, you're punting. And
so I just wanted him to run the ball so
his defense could just catch his breath. Because the fact
that that defense, for as much as they were on
the field for thirty seven bleep in minutes and played
over seventy something plays, yep, the fact that they only
gave up twenty points with as many guys that were
dropping like flies out there, I thought it was a
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testament to first off the players, but it shows you
that a Giro Rivero had a great had a great
game plan. And so like what my concern is is
that if Canal is reevaluated the tape and his and so, well,
if we make this block, then that play is there.
Or if Bryce sees that which you know the Bryce
touchdown on, that's one that's got to be there. That
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was a that was a four point play that became
a zero point play because you got nothing.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Out of the turnover.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
But I hope he re evaluates how he approached the game,
because I thought his approach on Monday night, for as
much as I wanted him to throw the ball, I thought.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It was wrong yeah, I think that that certainly is right,
and especially when you realized how the Niners were going
to do things, which is basically leaning on Christian McCaffrey
and allowing them to take care or to hold onto
the football for an inordinate amount of time. I mean
that that was how they how they did it. They
methodically moved down the field of seven minutes or longer. Yeah,
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it's crazy, I mean it was. It was unbelievable how
long they were able to possess the ball.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
And that was the thing.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
You know, people were, you know, first half, blaming Bryce
Young and saying how bad he looked in the first
quarter or in that first half. I mean I looked
at it and said, did he really look that bad
outside of the interception? Like I didn't think he did.
It's just the stats weren't there to be had because
they never had the football, and so, you know, I
think that's really the thing. And yeah, there could have
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been a better execution off of the turnovers, There's no
doubt about that. I didn't think it was a perfect
game from Bryce Young, But I'm with you. I thought
when I looked at it, I thought to myself, this
is more on Dave Canalis than this is on Bryce
Young because if they would have ran the football more,
and I'm not saying that you have to run it
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the way that you did against Miami. Coming off of
the performance that you had the prior week, you were
wanting to air the football out a little bit more.
But if you had been able to run the football
effectively for the majority of the night, that probably would
have allowed you to be more successful, more consistent offensively,
and then yeah, you hold the ball a little bit longer.
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I think that was the element of the offense that
was really missing, and I thought, you know, it didn't
really happen on run plays, you know, in terms of
where the big yardage came from. But I thought Tuba
looked pretty good too. And so you have two pretty
healthy backs. I'm not saying they're perfectly healthy, certainly not
Rico as the season has gone along, but they were
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healthy enough where you should have been able to lean
on those guys and you just you just chose not to.
That's weird to me, and it's why in this game,
I think you've got to be able to do that
against the Rams.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You've got to be able to run the.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Football against the rams because I mean, that's going to
lead to probably the most success for you as opposed
to just putting your quarterback back there. Now, part of
it is that if you're going to put them back
the just let him win the game from the pocket,
because that's where he won the game against Atlanta. Now
it's all the offensive line to be able to block
for him. But there were so many boot action plays
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the other night that I forget who said it. I
think it was I think it was Max set it.
There was three on the first freaking drive. It became
so predictable, so predictable, yep.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
And the difference was and you know, Smoking I were
talking about this while we were watching the game, and
I think I encourage everyone you should come watch a
game with Smoking I, because you will want to be entertained.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
But you also we will teach you the game as
we're watching it.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Oh and also the ins and outs of commercial breaks,
which is a very important topic for one.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Smoke Ludwicks, all of their boot action was to the
same side of the field.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
What San Francisco was able to do with San Francisco
did the exact same thing.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I'm getting text miss but it's set up. They set
up the backside to where.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Then they booted left and there was Kittle there for
a fifteen yard route just because they set that up.
And that's what makes like Shanahan so so great, and
it's why when I take away my hatred and disdain
for the Niners, he's as fun a play caller to
watch weekend week out because he sets things up. And
I think that's kind of the evolution, yeah, from the
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evolution for Dave Canalis as a play caller. But I
really came away from from this thinking after the game
and I don't think should happened during the season. And
I don't I don't want Dave Canalis to be to
be fired, but I do wonder, and Mike Kay has
wrote about this and has talked about this. There seems
to be a disconnect between head coach play caller Dave
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Canalis and his quarterback Bryce Up. I don't know who
you put more of that blame on, whether it's Dave
or whether it's it's Bryce. I do wonder, depending on
how this season plays out and we're reevaluating everything, if
he comes to the conclusion that he needs to give
up play calling duties because I think Brad Izach who
whenever you know, these writers put you know, they write
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these articles they got to write about like future stars
in the business. A lot of people rave about his
football intellect makes a lot of sense. He's the son
of a coach. I think he's pretty insightful sometimes at
the podium. Shop might disagree listening to what he has
to say, But I do think there could be a
scenario where if he's on staff next year, maybe he
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becomes the guy that's play calling for Bryce Shawn, considering
he's don't want to install in the game plan for
Bryce Shaw.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Well, the only reason I'm hesitating against that is we're
going from Canalis, who is a guy who has relatively
little experience with play calling, to another guy who's only
play called in preseason games.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And to be fair, those preseason.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Games he's play called haven't necessarily been great either.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, that's that's that's a big point.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
So maybe maybe Canals, you know, would be willing to
give it up if it was someone else that had experience.
I mean, I do agree, it'sick. Seems like he knows
what he's doing, what he's talking about. His answers as
long as they are in press conferences, are very insightful,
probably one of the most. You know, he's given you
probably the most insightful and clear answers that you get
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out of coaches in the NFL, just with the with
the level of detail he goes to in his answers.
But yeah, I just don't I think in time, sure,
I just don't think right now, going from a guy
that has little experience play calling to a guy that
has none in the regular season is the right thing
to do for this team.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I was thinking about this the other day and and
the guys in Kansas City. I think Bryce could benefit.
Or he's in Tennessee. I love talking about Kansas City.
They got better barbecue. Bryce, I think could really benefit
from a guy like Mike McCoy just being his play caller,
like like I think, like like like, just having this
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old savvy vett that just just knows offensive football and
as evolved as the NFL has evolved, I think could
really benefit. Maybe do you know Jim Bob Cooter or
something like that. Yeah, No, I'm not mature enough to
talking about Jim Bob Cooter.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I mean, but he's a guy who's been around for
a while, he's adjusted to the to the game.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I mean, like, come on, but.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I just I want I want Dave to be open
to it because I want I want my head coach
to just be my head coach. And look, there are
certain guys that thrive, man like Andy Reid held a
play caller, Brian shot Ham's done a really good job
calling plays here for Dallas, Sean McVay with LA. But
those guys have seasoned, veteran quarterbacks. You've got a young,
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first time play caller and a young quarterback, and I
think it's why then such question at the end.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, the weird thing is is that I think when
you talk about this this week, it makes sense you
could come back next week though, and you could honestly
think to yourself, A, you know what, I think Dave
is really is a really good play caller. It's so
weak to week with this team because it sets up
I mean, you go to that Atlanta game, man, it
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seemed like Dave could do no wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
It seemed like he drew up the perfect game plan.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
And you're saying, there's nobody I would want to as
my play caller over Dave Canalis because he just seems
to know what works successfully. But then you get to
this week against San Francisco and it's a completely different
game plan. It's one that isn't successful and now we're
sitting here talking about it.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
So again, we don't have an identity. Yeah, we're looking for.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
A for something that shows what the what the identity
of this team is going to be moving forward. And
the weird thing is is I think week to week,
your identity basically changes because of the opponents that you're playing.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Like, It's just that, and that's how the NFL is.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Man.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You got to be able to do both at a
pretty successful rate because when you play certain teams, there
are going to be games where you can be more successful.
I think the identity of this team really is a
run first football team, Yes, but I don't think that
that is necessarily something that Dave Canalis has sold on
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because I think he's a guy that really likes throwing
the football and I just don't know if you've got
the quarterback to be able to do that. It's not
a slight against Bryce Young, but is Bryce when he
is most successful? Is it when you're dropping him back
and throwing fifty times a game? I don't see that
that that to me doesn't scream success for this offense.
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So to me, if he runs the football more consistently
with either of your two backs, then I think you're
going to be able to have some success. I just
you know, at the same time, you don't want to
become super predictable. So it's that that's the tough thing
about the NFL man seven oh four five seven ninety
six team. We want to hear from you guys on
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the fan dual text line when we come back. We'll
put a bow on this conversation. We'll talk a little
college basketball, both duke and care line in action yesterday.
We'll talk about both of those results. Listen to the
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listening to the Young Guns on Sports Radio ninety two
seven WFNZ. Just want to put a bow on our
conversation that we had previously about Dave Canalis and the
whole play calling dilemma that we're enduring here as Carolina
Panther fans. Weather Man Mark wrote in on the Texa Line,
Canalis got out coached and Canalis cannot coach.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
He is yet another failure Let's face it. I hate
to say it, but he is and six. He followed
that up by saying Canal is sorry. He needs to
go this hip he cannot coach. Bless his heart, weather
Man Mark. Happy Thanksgiving to you, man. I hope you
had a great meal, but you do not appear to
be in the holiday spirit. Wanting to fire a guy
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the holidays, excel Defender wrote in the identity of the
Carolina Panthers is called losing.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Cheer up, y'all. They're six and six trying to have
somewhat of a good You would think that this team.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
You think this team is as bad as they've been
in racing years, Like this is a five hundred football
team that's still in the hunt to make the playoffs,
and with Baker Mayfield out, especially if he's out for
a significant period of time, they should be the favorite
to win the NFC South Because Teddy Bridgewater sucks.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Whoa Teddy gloves and he's absolutely terrible.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I told you that the other the other day when
he came into the game, I thought they put a
wide receiver in the game to throw the football. He
looked that bad. So so why are you this negative?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Guys? Well, holy crap.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And I mean, and you you should understand it because
your football team has been bad for pretty much a
decade as well. Like this is what happens like when losing,
Just like when all you experience is losing, it just
kind of seeps in.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
But I think it's why, Like, oh but my fan base,
we had people I thought that Brian Dable was a
good coach, but like, and I think it's why, like
he didn't win a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Whenever we do win, I think it's why Mack tries
to like celebrate it, yes, like and just try to
enjoy it. Because while I think we're closer to winning
more than we're losing, we've still lost a lot more
than we've won. I mean, look at just the time
I've been here, this is the first time they've been
this competitive starting to finish in a season by fourth
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year of the station, I mean usually by.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
This time, this is were you here for the Wilks here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that that that got competitive. It
got competitive. But remember when they started a fire sale.
We're used to talking draft in mid October here. Yeah,
and like that's like legitimate, like Mac putting together topics
which draft prospect are you watching this weekend?
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Oh, Joe Joe Marino usually has been on this station
at least once or twice by this time of the year,
and we're nowhere near that right now, Like there is
there is no scenario this year where you are going
to be talking draft in season and that, look, that's
a step in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Actually, I do disagree with that, because if we were
to do my XL topic, I think I don't think
XL is gonna be a Carolina Panther next year, and
we could be again a scenario, we're three straight years
in the first round, this team drafts a wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Well, I did, naughty, naughty me.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
I did take a look at a mock draft and
they had us like a fifteenth or sixteenth, and he
took Lemon, the guy from USC.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I love, I love Makai Lemon. Lemon Lemon. Yeah, so
that's who was mocked to us.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
So they would agree that it'd be three years in
a row, which I don't know if I'm sold on.
I don't know if I'd rather have an edge rusher
at that point. But anyway, yeah, we shouldn't We shouldn't
be talking draft right now. But like that's the thing,
guys like this teams that as such better spot than
what has been recently.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
And also to the people that want to fire Dave,
to the people that want.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
To get rid of Bryce, hate to break it to y'all,
they're running this thing back next year, Yes, and they should.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Oh yeah, what they've seen so far this year, I
don't see any way they don't.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Next Like, no, next year is the full blown everything
on the table. Yes, we're evaluating everything top the bottom,
including the cheerleaders, like every everyone is under the microscope.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Okay, are you doing the evaluation on the cheerleader? I
wish I would be so great. That was the creepiest
way that you could have possibly wish.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Oh, As you know, Jim Selane used to used to
judge like Bikini Contest, And I've never been more envious
of a former host his job here, and it has
nothing to do with what he got to do on
the radio. Like I would love as someone that would
watch the Dallas Cowboys making the team cheerleaders show on
SEEMT growing up, I think I know what a good
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cheerleader looks like and what a good cheerleader a bad
one looks like, of course you do.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I think I would be phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
You put me in charge of the cheer did you
put me in charge of the cheerleading and the percussion?
We have the best in game atmosphere in the National
Football League. Thank you, Thank you for promoting it the
right way. By the way it is per percussion.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think next year, yeah, you're
gonna be evaluating everything. I mean you're evaluating everything still
this year, and this year matters because if you're coming
down the stretch, like you come down the stretch of
the season and for some reason it just gets that bad.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Oh let's just put it out though day. I don't
think it's gonna happen. They go zero to five, you're entering.
I'm still bringing canals back his asses on the line
next year like it was for Rivera in his make
or break year and when everyone thought he was gonna
get fired, and like, okay, that's that point.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I'm just so depressed. I'm okay with that, but not
get to that point.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You know, Mac has said it twenty seven thousand times.
He's actually said this more than he's brought up the
past ten games of last year. This is the year
before the year. I want to see how this year
plays out. I still think they can maybe win this division.
I still think they can maybe get to eight to
nine wins, which would be another sign of progress.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
But you want to continue to build the roster up.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Give Dan Morgan another draft class, give Dan Morgan another
shot in free AHD to add to this roster, and
then really have this roster in a position to where
Scott Federer told you it was in twenty twenty one,
where if we get to this time next year and
it looks like Bryce ain't the guy, but your roster
is ready to go win, then you go make your
move at quarterback, whether that's making a trade for a vet,
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sacrificing what you sacrifice in the draft to get another
top tier quarterback. And we all know the next of
the twenty seven draft class is better than the twenty
six draft class. Already sure about that. Oh, you still
get the names that are gonna be out there. It's
a better draft class.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
We said that. That should be your status, Panther fans.
That's that's the point.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
That's the point is that you think that it's gonna
be better, But we've gotten to the point we thought
this year's draft class was going to be great. Man,
he thought, Oh, Garrett nus Meyer's going to be up there.
You know Leonora's sellers. How great is Lenora's Sellers going
to be? That hasn't worked out? I mean Club Kate.
Oh Jesus, just, I mean just, I mean a guy
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that I don't even know if he's draftable at this
point in Kate Club Nick.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Maybe he is. Maybe he does end up fitting somewhere
on a roster. It's a Day three pick, Yeah, I
think so.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I think the technical term for what Kate Clubeck season
has been this year has been booty uty Udy Cheeks.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
It's too interesting. Uh So, I think ultimately what what
you want to have happened? And this is what I've
been saying about this scenario for the longest time, and
people always seem to take it differently whenever I bring
up that, I don't know if Bryce is yet a
franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
He is the best solution for this team moving forward,
because you you should not want to draft somewhere because
tell me the guy in college football that you look
at right now and you say definitively that is the
best quarterback. There's no doubt that when he comes out,
he's going number one in his draft.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Do you have that guy?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
The best quarterback, the best pro quarterback in college football
right now might be who ty Simpson?
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, Like that's that's the point that you're at.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
So you was probably gonna be to this draft class
what Mitch Trubisky was the year he got drafted. You're
gonna have to trade this is the guy We've done
enough experience to sell your soul to.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
He's not gonna have a lot of starts under his belt.
It's been shown that those guys don't necessarily succeed. Trey
Lance was very similar. A guy that played just thirteen
games at the college level as a starter, turns out
his career is a complete bust. I don't know if
that's gonna be the same thing that's gonna happen with
ty Simpson. Maybe he's a guy that does become successful.
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But that's the thing. Who were you banging down the
door for? So that's my my uh response to anybody
that says, nah, you know, I'm hoping that Bryce isn't the.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Guy seven four five seven ninety six ten Sirloin and
b frowed in in regards to us talking about me
being a cheerleading judge. He said, w f n Z
after Dark just happened. And then my guy Jason from
Rowan Oakes said, TC from the Morning Show used to
host Monday night football from the Men's Club.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Which job would you rather have?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Would you would you rather be a bikini contest at
Hooters or host a Monday football show from the Men's Club.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I mean it's okay to not answer for him. I
mean you could not answer. But here's the thing. We
all know what the correct answer is. Because one you
all right, you see more?
Speaker 1 (46:47):
All right, let's pump the brakes. But that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
You asked a question, I gave you an answer that
would be that would be the answer that I would
go with.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
So, okay, would you rather host? Let's just cut it,
you know what, let's cut it off right there. I
was just gonna ask you that was far enough. Min's
Club or Tassels? You know which would you rather host? What?
Speaker 1 (47:09):
I football from?
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Oh? You know Tassels his home. I mean it's a
nice establishment. I drive by there and there's eight dude,
it's the same eight cars. Like I have a mental
image of the Tassels parking lot and it's to say
made vehicles.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
And I don't know if that's the workers or the
guys that are going there to Jowich. And we'll ever
forget when we went in there one time, me and
my buddy. There's a guy. No, no, no, there's a guy.
It's not bad.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
There's a guy at the bar that is not even
remotely paying attention to what's going on on stage, does
not care. He just wants He just goes there like
it's a regular bar. And it's like, sir, you could
go to so many other places that are just a
regular bar. Why do you choose to go here? He
was just watching a ball game on the television.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
I was like, yes, one television, that's it. But he
was locked in. I was like, Okay, interesting, good choice.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Jansram Maid and I still got to make our our
trip up to the Treasure Club up at Hickory. We
set the we agreed to do it, but we never
did it. Over the summer. It's something I look forward
to doing. It's one of my resolutions in twenty twenty six, uh,
go to more adult entertainment venues.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Interesting, you know, in the Year of our Lord twenty
twenty six, as some would say, go to more adult
entertainment places is the goal, and maybe our.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Resolution should be to just go to break and we
can do that too.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
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It's the second hour of the Young Guns.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
We had a fun first hot.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We're hoping to have a lot more fun here in
the second hour and flound We're we're two maybe the
most fun weekend of the college football season because it's
it's rivalry weekend and there's you know, games that matter
starting today because you've got your ole miss and the
(00:42):
Egg Bowl. You've got clean old fashioned hate, which is
not called that this year because we've now got a
titled sponsor stupid for one of the best rivalries in
college football. And then of course, you know tomorrow you've
got the game and an arbor, so on and so forth.
But you know, just kind of wanted to look back at,
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you know, Tuesday night, that's when we got the latest
batch of CFP rankings kind of just flew under the
radar here because we were still reeling from the Monday
night loss. There was a bunch of college basketball going on,
and there's no local teams of import that are going
to be playing the games of consequence this weekend, but
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you know, we still got regular season weekend ago and
championship Saturday ago before we get the twelve team playoff field.
What set out to you about this week's latest CFP rankings.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean, I think the thing that stood out
the most is that Miami ends up moving up a
spot ahead of Utah.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I think that makes a little bit of sense.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Utah struggling on the road against Kansas State, Miami taking
care of business on the road against Virginia Tech in
the way that many people thought that they would. But again,
you're getting closer and closer to Miami making it into
the College Football Playoff, And I think that's where the
debate really starts right there, is should that team be
in the College Football Playoff? With the losses that they have.
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Louisville starting to look worse and worse as the weeks
go along, SMU really doesn't look that bad, and I
think that's kind of what you're hoping for if you
are Miami. You're hoping that SMU finds a way to
win the ACC which is more than possible. I mean,
right now, SMU is one of the teams that has
you know, one of the best paths to the ACC
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Championship game. The only one that has a smoother path
than they do is Virginia.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Virginia.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
All they have to do is win and they're in
same thing though for SMU Or they could get in
with a Virginia loss. So I think that's probably the
best case scenario if you're Miami, because that would validate
the fact that would mean you would have, you know,
one of your losses would come against the college football
playoff team. You have a victory against a college football
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playoff team, And I think that's probably the scenario that
right now everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
In college football is watching well.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And I think the call is and effect of what
happened last week with the way that Pittsburgh just went
into Atlanta and beat the breaks off of Georgia Tech.
Is now Miami's final regular season game is against the
current top twenty five team in the CFP, So they
have a chance and what will be their final game
before selection Sunday, because they're just not going to make
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the ACC title game, you do have a chance to
get a statement win, which you know some teams don't
have that opportunity to get it. Really just comes down
to trust and do we trust Mario Cristobal? Do we
trust Carson Beck? Do we trust this Miami program to
go on the road in the cold and beat a
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good football team, a team that's capable of scoring points,
and a team that's head coach pretty much told you
to weks ago. They didn't give a damn about beating
about Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
What a horrendous count.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
They were preparing to beat Georgia Town and they were
preparing to beat Miami. Now, at the sake of getting
into an argument that I got into off the air
the other day that I don't want to rehash, let
alone rehash for forty minutes, this is how I feel
about Miami.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh, you don't think that NC State should be in
the college? Yeah, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Here's how I feel about Miami. Okay, with the way
that they put the playoff together, I believe they deserve
to be in because you've got the head to head
win over Notre Dame. Okay, I don't give a crap
that happened on the way back in Week one. You
beat them. Notre Dame is borring something unforeseen. Less they
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get beat this weekend, Notre Dame was going to the playoff,
and Notre Dame might be a bigger threat to win
the national championship this year than they were a year
ago because of how good that offense is, then they
can they can throw for it a lot more than
they could were last year. They were a ball control,
run heavy offense that relied on their defense. I don't
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want to devalue head to head. The second that you
put an undered a men, you leave Miami out, head
to head gets devalued. What's the point I'm playing these games.
Let's learn a computer pick who should pick a pick
and play for a national championship. With that being said,
if they did the playoff the way that it should
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be put together, which is finding the twelve best teams, yes,
I don't think Miami's one of the twelve best teams
in college football.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
So you don't believe so flounder you agree it should
not be the twelfth most deserving, it should be the
twelve best.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I do not believe that it should be the twelve
most deserving. I think it should be the teams that
you think are the best teams at that time in
the year. And that's one of the reasons why you
sort of questioned Miami. I mean, you lost to a
Louisville team that is just falling apart right now. I
mean you could say Louisville was better at the time,
but they are falling apart right now. SMU is a
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team that I look, I know they're probably gonna make
it to the ACC title game, but they're not as
good as they were a year now.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, that's exactly what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I don't think that they are as good as they
were a year ago, and I don't really think they're
that great of a football team. I mean, you gotta
think this is the first time that they have been
ranked all season long is in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
So my only thing against why I want the twelve
most deserving. And I understand for the ratings and all that,
probably everyone wants to quote unquote twelve best, but I
think those go hand in hand with what the records
tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I disagree. And now see, I see.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
If you want the twelve best teams, then don't even
play the regular season. Go off the top twelve from
the preseason rankings and throw them into the playoffs and say, well,
on paper, these are the twelve best teams, because it's like,
for me, what did the regular season games matter? If
by the end of it, you're gonna say, well, on paper,
this team has so much more talent than this team.
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Put the record aside. Who cares about that. That's where
it doesn't really make much sense. Like maybe for a
video game you want, yeah, just give me the twelve
highest overall teams and put them into a bracket. But
what's the point of playing the season? If you're overall,
it doesn't matter. If you're deserving of being a top
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twelve team based off your record, why are you going
to discount that for being well, on paper, this is
the better team.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I just I look at it. And this is.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Probably the biggest downside to the way college football has operated,
for it's really its entire existence, from the time they
started picking national championships, which back then the writers picked
and choose. Then you had the BCS come along, Now
we have the Playoff. It continues to evolve, but college football,
at its core, it's a hypothetical sport. You look at
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it and you look at it very hypothetically, and I
think it's the one sport where eye tests should matter.
More than any other sport that we have, because it's
not everything is created equal. Like you look at these
teams in the Big twelve outside of Texas Tech. Do
I think that BYU could go into the SEC and
be ten and one? Do I think Utah could go
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in the SEC and be nine and two?
Speaker 5 (08:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Could they go into Big ten and do what they've
done in the Big Twelve, I don't think they can.
Maybe maybe it is top heavy, but but but I
don't know. And that's that's how I look at this,
is that you know, when you look at college basketball
and you're and you're selecting your at large teams, you're
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putting thirty five at larges into a tournament field. I
do think their resume most deserving. I think that matters
because you're selecting three times as many teams as you
are in college football. I think at college football, I
think the resume should matter, which is why I don't
want to take away head to head, but I do
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think the eye tests and how these people evaluate these
teams should be the most important, because you know, I
want the best brand of football. I think we're going
to get a scenario. And this is why I've been
against playoff expansion the last couple of years. That is
why they need to stick at twelve. Look at last
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year's first round, most of the games were duds. What's
going to happen this year in the first round? I
think there is a significant gap and how with the
way they put the playoff together now, because you're not
putting the twelve best teams in, you're putting in the
twelve most deserving And let's just be frank, guys, some
of these teams are going to win conference championships, don't
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deserve to play for national championships, like whoever wins the
ACC or the Group of five.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
But I think that's something that you want to keep though,
because that's what makes the sport kind of special is
that you are going to have an ACC champion that's
going to be in there. You played your way into it.
Same thing with the American conference champion. More than likely
that's the team that's going to go. It's either them
or the Sun Bell team. Although I don't even think
James Madison's ranked if I remember correctly, so there is
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no way that they're actually gonna make it into the field.
So yeah, the American conference champion. I think they deserve
to make it into the field now this year the
way good to come, yes, and I agree with that.
I think that the way that they have it seeded
this year makes the most sense. Yes, that conference champion
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out of the American Conference is going to be the
twelfth seed. The conference champion from the ACC is probably
gonna be the eleven seed. And so that's what makes
the most sense to me, is that, uh, you put
those teams in now, that's gonna be The problem is
because right now as we sit here, based on the rankings,
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because there is a mathematical way for Miami to make it,
Miami is listed as the ACC team in yep, they're
gonna be the team that gets knocked out.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Here's my question. When you look at the teams that.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Are ahead of them, do you truly believe that they
are better than Alabama? No, I don't believe that either.
I have seen both of those teams play. I believe
that Alabama is the better football team, Notre Dame. That's
gonna be the one that's gonna be where the debate
comes up is because they played head to head. Miami
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won that matchup, and I think in some people's minds,
depending on what Miami does this week, they will feel
like Miami has turned it back in the right direction.
The easiest thing that can happen is Miami loses this week.
They lose this week, all this goes out the window.
We don't have to worry about this conversation about what
matters more. Yeah, there's no argument, and but's that gonna
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happen much on the table?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, but that's the thing. Is it going to happen?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I have no idea because I mean I would my
answer because it probably is going to be the most
controversial playoff decision that we've ever had. I think they
will probably win to set up that situation, but I
mean it's more than possible that they end up losing.
I mean, Maishenheinscheld the way that he's playing for Pittsburgh
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right now. I mean, I know he wasn't great against
Notre Dame, but I still think for for a true freshman,
he's playing some great football. This is going to be
a stiff test for Miami. So if they win, I
think they have they have a legitimate argument to get in.
But I just don't know how you say when you
sit here and you watch these teams play at this
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point in the season, how you would say that Miami
is better than Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Cool, because I think we all know. I think you
put an entre name back in hard rock Stadium. Dame
beats Miami. Yes, I agree. I don't think Miami could
go to South Ben and beat them. I don't think
on a neutral field Miami can beat them. He'll Billy
Hater writs in on the fangul Texa line, I test
equals excuse to pack in more SEC teams.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Okay, what we're debating right here?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Are there SEC teams that are making the field, And again,
tell me an SEC team that shouldn't make the field?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I think A and M is more than deserving.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yes, they should be in, no matter if they lose
today in Texas or not.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
All the SEC teams that are currently in deserve to
be in.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
But if you're if you want to convince me of
like a Texas or a Tennessee, then I'm not.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
But if Texas went with Texas, Texas shouldn't be in.
But okay, and this I had this written down, like,
could Michigan and Texas maybe win their way into the.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Playoff Michigan could with the win over a house.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Is if Michigan wins tonight, they gotta win at home
over the over the number three team in the country.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Now you have a bad loss.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
The loss at Florida is excusable and and and it's
not sometimes should be overlooked. But wouldn't a win against
a number the number three team in the country kind
of override the bad loss and hasn't. The way Texas
played the last four weeks of the season suggests that
they're playing closer to what they were back in the preseason,
which was the number one team in the country.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm not saying that they deserve to be in I mean,
they were uncompetitive in the game against Georgia. They were,
but even that was late in the season and their
defense looked terrible.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So do you I don't think they should be in.
You put if you put them on a neutral field, Yep.
You think Miami's bar in Texas, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I think so? You think so? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I think Miami would probably would probably beat them, because,
I mean, Texas, when they faced the best teams that
they've had on their schedule this year, they have now won.
So I feel like and I mean Ford to this point,
but they've got to win over Oklahoma, and if they
win today, they'd have a win over A and M.
Those are two top ten teams in the country. They're
not getting win. They're not beating A M. I mean,
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I wouldn't think so. But that game is at Texas.
They have been, you know they That's a good point.
They have been a weird team like that because they
have to win. Yes, I believe so. Yeah, we had
a bunch of games tonight. This a game the NFL
took over Thanksgiving Night, seven thirty ABC tonight, Shrump.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
There was a day in time, back when you were
like six, where you watched the Lions at one, six, seven,
the Cowboys at four thirty, and at eight o'clock you
watched A and M Texas. Yeah, and it was a
it was a glorious time. But the NFL's over, a sense,
taking over that time slot. Yeah, we got Georgia Georgia
Tech today at three thirty.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I'm excited. Let's get let's get eight more overtimes in
that one. Yeah, I think George is about to I
think Georgia Tech could beat them.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It would be wouldn't it make perfect sense for Georgia
Tech to beat them, and it's being absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But yeah, because that's the thing, what do they because
they're not they're you're not going from twenty three to
to twelve now one.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Week now, and I don't I don't think there's a
path for them. If there is a path for them
to win, to get into the ACC Championship game, it
was last really involves everybody losing.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And last week it was basically when and they were
in type of thing and they didn't show up. So
but just kind of getting back to the hillbilly haters
comment about I test equals more SEC teams and then
we're gonna get a break. I can't help the fact
they played better football. I can't help the fact that
their conference is better than the Big ten. I can't
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help that they're better than the Big twelve. And I
can't help that the better of the ACC. You know
what I say to those conferences?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Do better? Be better?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Do I want to sit up here and waive the
SEC flag? No, my school isn't in that conference yet
we will be. And you think you think I'm an
SEC defender, Now wait till the Carolina's in the SEC,
I'll be the biggest. It just means more sob you've
ever heard.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And y'all I think gets smoking this sea. But I
just like flound we watch we watched the sport every week.
There's a clear difference. There's a different level of football
that they play.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Man, And when I'm sitting here wanting to just be
entertained for four weeks while we're trying to determine a
national champion, I want the best freaking teams, and the SEC,
the SEC busts more of them than all these other conferences.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I mean, there's there's no team that I look at
that's inside the field and I say shouldn't be in
there Like Alabama. I think they are deserving of being
in there. I think they're one of the twelve best
teams in the entire country. And so to me, or really,
it's one of the ten best because we know that
the ACC is going to get one of their their
champions in. We know that the American Conference is probably
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gonna get their champion in. So really it then comes
down to the ten best teams. And when I look
at it, I think Alabama is clearly one of the
ten best teams. I think Oklahoma clearly one of the
ten best teams. Ole Miss clearly one of those teams. Like,
who are you dying to put in over these teams?
Like the only team that has a chance is the
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Michigan Wolverines. And I gotta be honest with you, I
don't really think they're all that great. Like when I've
watched them, especially their offense, I don't look at that
as a playoff offense. So I mean, yeah, I just
I don't know who they who people want in if
you want more ACC teams, and you are crazy because
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you cannot put these teams. They're not good enough, guys,
They're not. I'm sorry. Like you look at these teams
and you watch their level of play. All you gotta
do is watch how Notre Dame plays against SEC opponents,
and then watch when they play the top teams in
the ACC. They absolutely murder teams in the ACC. They
kill them. I mean it is unbelievable. And then you
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watch the way that they play SEC teams and they
struggle against them. That shows you the level of competition
is just different and it sucks. But I think that's
where we're at right.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Two quick things.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
The ranked SEC teams that are currently in top twenty
five in their non conference games against the ACC two
and one.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Okay uh.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And then secondly, we're talking about the most impactful games
this week. Got to throw in the Charlotte forty nine
ers there just because it's the last one of the
season and that means that they're done. Because this first
year for Tim albn Man, it's been it's been a
rough go. Injuries of plague, this team. I still believe
in albut I think he's gonna be a good coach.
But yeah, I think Charlotte forty nine er fans know,
you guys are out there, you're probably happy that.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
This is just the last one of the year.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
The same thing with South Carolina and Clemson. Tals Man,
Remember when we thought we're gonna talk about that later
in the show. We said to ourselves, you know what,
why are they putting that game at twelve o'clock because
we need that game in a later time slot because
that's gonna be a marquee game.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh my gosh, seven four ninety six teen. We want
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We just had ourselves a segment. We just butchered the
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for Mack and Bone. It's the young guns. We're here
with you all the way up until noon today, and
we come back, we'll turn our attention back to the
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Carolina Panthers. We'll talk about Dave Canalis taking ownership when
things go wrong. You're listening to Sports Radio ninety two
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Speaker 5 (20:32):
All of everything. And I try to be really transparent
with the players and to own up to the places
in the areas I could do better in this situation,
and I want them to understand this is all of us.
We're accountable to each other. We're all pushing to try
to win, to try to improve our football, and I'm
certainly a part of that as a head coach and
of course as a play caller, so we often be
connected on that. We often be real about it, you know,
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and look at at the opportunities and while players make
it the scrutiny for you know, a misplay here on
this block there, I dropped past an air and throw
a mistackle. Those types of things happen. The coaches are
involved as well, and we all got to be on
the same page and be humble about it and be
looking forward to improving it. You know, for me as
a as a young, young, youngish play caller, you know,
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pretty early in my career. You know, every week is
a lesson for me. Every week there's something to take.
And I have great people around me that we talked to,
that we have accountability with, and I lean on those
guys because I want to get better as well as
to continue to do this process.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
All right, That was the voice of Panthers head coach
Dave Canalis. Actually a really good question from Big Nude
over at a Panther's presser earlier this week when he
was asked about how he evaluates himself as a play caller,
and look, man, there was there was no denying that
on Monday night. You know, for as bad as Bryce was,
and Bryce was not good, the play calling was not optimal.
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And I think maybe some people think when I bring
that up, I'm making excuses for Brian said, maybe I am.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
But it's not me that said that.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Dave Canalis, when he got done after the game and
when he talked on Tuesday flight out just said I
got to be better.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I did not put the offense in the position to
be as successful as we need it to be.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And I think I think that speaks volumes about the
kind of coach that he is, and I think it's
really why they've been able to enjoy the successful lound
they've been able to enjoy because when he screws it up,
and he has screwed it up quite a bit, he
has no problem looking them in the face and saying,
that's all me. And I think for a team that's
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still learning and growing with their head coach, it makes
it a lot easier, I think, to still believe in
him and want to play for him whenever he's willing
to take the ownership the way that he has at
different times this year after bad losses i e. The
Saints two weeks ago and this past week against the
Niners on Monday Football.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, I think you really like the accountability that you
get from your head coach because it just speaks volumes
to the rest of the locker room that, look, I
can make mistakes too, I'm not perfect. And I think
in the game against the Niners that was definitely the
case where you look at it and I mean, you know,
running the football pretty successfully, you give Rico one carry
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in the second half. Right, it was a seventeen yard
run and it was a successful run. So I mean, yeah,
you're hoping that you're gonna be it's gonna be a
much more run heavy game plan. This was the thing
that I was trying to say when we were talking
last week, and the thought was, man, go pass heavy,
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man use that to open up your running game or whatever.
I get that coming off of the week against the Falcons,
but again, when this team plays the Falcons, Bryce Young
plays different. He is a guy that steps it up
against the Falcon that is the one team that he owns.
So I didn't think you should read that much into
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that in terms of how you should dictate the way.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That you use your offense. But I so, what did
I say?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I said that was a game where you had to
feel it out, and what we were watching it felt
like you should have run the ball more because you
were not getting those winds downfield that you necessarily needed. Now,
I don't know how aggressive they were going downfield. I
think they could have been a little more aggressive in
that area. But also, I mean, you look at some
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of the play calls from Dave Canalis, I actually thought
some of them were pretty good. There were just mistakes
with execution from these guys. Where you know, a miss
block from Jatavian Sanders on the swing pattern to Chewba Hubbard,
you know that's a bigger play. If Jatavian Sanders actually
gets a block on a guy. You go back to
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the interception Vice's first interception, you know that play is open.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
It was there early in the round.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
He just helped me just he held the ball to long,
had a blocker right side right, and he he had
the option to run it and that would have allowed
them to succeed.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
So what's concerning about your belief though, with that flound
is that if Dave Canalis feels that way, how entited
will he be to change his play calling Because if
if in his mind all their lacking is the execution,
that he doesn't think his game plan was wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And I thought his game plan the other night was wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Well, anytime you run it nine times in a close
football game, yes, some some's wrong, especially whenever you're having
success with the wrong game.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
What did you think was wrong about the game plan though?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Did you think it was it was the running or
did you were you more concerned with the fact that
they didn't go downfield more off, No, because I think
once they want hey, hey, hold on Moran, the more
the normal wake up time.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
When they when they started pushing the ball down the field.
And mind you, they started doing it when it was
a two possession game, but not when they like they
still could have ran the ball. Like my thing wasn't
you know you you got to enjoy the experience of
watching Smoke and I watch a Panther football game together,
still not calling penalties guys, Like probably my biggest complaint
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was I wanted them to run the ball so they
could just hold onto the ball. Yes, they could not
have possession of the football for long at all compared
to what you saw from San Francisco, And that was
my big Like, there was at one point whereas like
early in the second quarter where like get you get
a good run and now yes, you're in like an
obvious passing down. And I know, like Greg Olsen will
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tell you that you should be aggressive in those downs
and you should want to push the football down the field.
But the second that you you know, getting in completion
and now you're basically at or behind the line of
scrimmery store.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You have to throw it.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
If you don't convert that third down, you're punting. And
so I just wanted him to run the ball so
his defense could just catch his breath. Because the fact
that that defense, for as much as they were on
the field for thirty seven bleep in minutes and played
over seventy something plays, yep, the fact that they only
gave up twenty points with as many guys that were
dropping like flies out there, I thought it was a
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testament to first off the players, but it shows you
that a Giro Rivero had a great had a great
game plan. And so like what my concern is is
that if Canal is reevaluated the tape and his and so, well,
if we make this block, then that play is there.
Or if Bryce sees that which you know the Bryce
touchdown on, that's one that's got to be there. That
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was a that was a four point play that became
a zero point play because you got nothing.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Out of the turnover.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
But I hope he re evaluates how he approached the game,
because I thought his approach on Monday night, for as
much as I wanted him to throw the ball, I thought.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It was wrong yeah, I think that that certainly is right,
and especially when you realized how the Niners were going
to do things, which is basically leaning on Christian McCaffrey
and allowing them to take care or to hold onto
the football for an inordinate amount of time. I mean
that that was how they how they did it. They
methodically moved down the field of seven minutes or longer. Yeah,
(28:03):
it's crazy, I mean it was. It was unbelievable how
long they were able to possess the ball.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
And that was the thing.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
You know, people were, you know, first half, blaming Bryce
Young and saying how bad he looked in the first
quarter or in that first half. I mean I looked
at it and said, did he really look that bad
outside of the interception? Like I didn't think he did.
It's just the stats weren't there to be had because
they never had the football, and so, you know, I
think that's really the thing. And yeah, there could have
(28:32):
been a better execution off of the turnovers, There's no
doubt about that. I didn't think it was a perfect
game from Bryce Young, But I'm with you. I thought
when I looked at it, I thought to myself, this
is more on Dave Canalis than this is on Bryce
Young because if they would have ran the football more,
and I'm not saying that you have to run it
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the way that you did against Miami. Coming off of
the performance that you had the prior week, you were
wanting to air the football out a little bit more.
But if you had been able to run the football
effectively for the majority of the night, that probably would
have allowed you to be more successful, more consistent offensively,
and then yeah, you hold the ball a little bit longer.
(29:13):
I think that was the element of the offense that
was really missing, and I thought, you know, it didn't
really happen on run plays, you know, in terms of
where the big yardage came from. But I thought Tuba
looked pretty good too. And so you have two pretty
healthy backs. I'm not saying they're perfectly healthy, certainly not
Rico as the season has gone along, but they were
(29:34):
healthy enough where you should have been able to lean
on those guys and you just you just chose not to.
That's weird to me, and it's why in this game,
I think you've got to be able to do that
against the Rams.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You've got to be able to run the.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Football against the rams because I mean, that's going to
lead to probably the most success for you as opposed
to just putting your quarterback back there. Now, part of
it is that if you're going to put them back
the just let him win the game from the pocket,
because that's where he won the game against Atlanta. Now
it's all the offensive line to be able to block
for him. But there were so many boot action plays
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the other night that I forget who said it. I
think it was I think it was Max set it.
There was three on the first freaking drive. It became
so predictable, so predictable, yep.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
And the difference was and you know, Smoking I were
talking about this while we were watching the game, and
I think I encourage everyone you should come watch a
game with Smoking I, because you will want to be entertained.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
But you also we will teach you the game as
we're watching it.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Oh and also the ins and outs of commercial breaks,
which is a very important topic for one.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Smoke Ludwicks, all of their boot action was to the
same side of the field.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
What San Francisco was able to do with San Francisco
did the exact same thing.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I'm getting text miss but it's set up. They set
up the backside to where.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Then they booted left and there was Kittle there for
a fifteen yard route just because they set that up.
And that's what makes like Shanahan so so great, and
it's why when I take away my hatred and disdain
for the Niners, he's as fun a play caller to
watch weekend week out because he sets things up. And
I think that's kind of the evolution, yeah, from the
(31:16):
evolution for Dave Canalis as a play caller. But I
really came away from from this thinking after the game
and I don't think should happened during the season. And
I don't I don't want Dave Canalis to be to
be fired, but I do wonder, and Mike Kay has
wrote about this and has talked about this. There seems
to be a disconnect between head coach play caller Dave
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Canalis and his quarterback Bryce Up. I don't know who
you put more of that blame on, whether it's Dave
or whether it's it's Bryce. I do wonder, depending on
how this season plays out and we're reevaluating everything, if
he comes to the conclusion that he needs to give
up play calling duties because I think Brad Izach who
whenever you know, these writers put you know, they write
(32:02):
these articles they got to write about like future stars
in the business. A lot of people rave about his
football intellect makes a lot of sense. He's the son
of a coach. I think he's pretty insightful sometimes at
the podium. Shop might disagree listening to what he has
to say, But I do think there could be a
scenario where if he's on staff next year, maybe he
(32:23):
becomes the guy that's play calling for Bryce Shawn, considering
he's don't want to install in the game plan for
Bryce Shaw.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Well, the only reason I'm hesitating against that is we're
going from Canalis, who is a guy who has relatively
little experience with play calling, to another guy who's only
play called in preseason games.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And to be fair, those preseason.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Games he's play called haven't necessarily been great either.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, that's that's that's a big point.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
So maybe maybe Canals, you know, would be willing to
give it up if it was someone else that had experience.
I mean, I do agree, it'sick. Seems like he knows
what he's doing, what he's talking about. His answers as
long as they are in press conferences, are very insightful,
probably one of the most. You know, he's given you
probably the most insightful and clear answers that you get
(33:10):
out of coaches in the NFL, just with the with
the level of detail he goes to in his answers.
But yeah, I just don't I think in time, sure,
I just don't think right now, going from a guy
that has little experience play calling to a guy that
has none in the regular season is the right thing
to do for this team.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I was thinking about this the other day and and
the guys in Kansas City. I think Bryce could benefit.
Or he's in Tennessee. I love talking about Kansas City.
They got better barbecue. Bryce, I think could really benefit
from a guy like Mike McCoy just being his play caller,
like like I think, like like like, just having this
(33:50):
old savvy vett that just just knows offensive football and
as evolved as the NFL has evolved, I think could
really benefit. Maybe do you know Jim Bob Cooter or
something like that. Yeah, No, I'm not mature enough to
talking about Jim Bob Cooter.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I mean, but he's a guy who's been around for
a while, he's adjusted to the to the game.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I mean, like, come on, but.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I just I want I want Dave to be open
to it because I want I want my head coach
to just be my head coach. And look, there are
certain guys that thrive, man like Andy Reid held a
play caller, Brian shot Ham's done a really good job
calling plays here for Dallas, Sean McVay with LA. But
those guys have seasoned, veteran quarterbacks. You've got a young,
(34:35):
first time play caller and a young quarterback, and I
think it's why then such question at the end.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, the weird thing is is that I think when
you talk about this this week, it makes sense you
could come back next week though, and you could honestly
think to yourself, A, you know what, I think Dave
is really is a really good play caller. It's so
weak to week with this team because it sets up
I mean, you go to that Atlanta game, man, it
(35:01):
seemed like Dave could do no wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
It seemed like he drew up the perfect game plan.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
And you're saying, there's nobody I would want to as
my play caller over Dave Canalis because he just seems
to know what works successfully. But then you get to
this week against San Francisco and it's a completely different
game plan. It's one that isn't successful and now we're
sitting here talking about it.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
So again, we don't have an identity. Yeah, we're looking for.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
A for something that shows what the what the identity
of this team is going to be moving forward. And
the weird thing is is I think week to week,
your identity basically changes because of the opponents that you're playing.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Like, It's just that, and that's how the NFL is.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Man.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You got to be able to do both at a
pretty successful rate because when you play certain teams, there
are going to be games where you can be more successful.
I think the identity of this team really is a
run first football team, Yes, but I don't think that
that is necessarily something that Dave Canalis has sold on
(36:09):
because I think he's a guy that really likes throwing
the football and I just don't know if you've got
the quarterback to be able to do that. It's not
a slight against Bryce Young, but is Bryce when he
is most successful? Is it when you're dropping him back
and throwing fifty times a game? I don't see that
that that to me doesn't scream success for this offense.
(36:31):
So to me, if he runs the football more consistently
with either of your two backs, then I think you're
going to be able to have some success. I just
you know, at the same time, you don't want to
become super predictable. So it's that that's the tough thing
about the NFL man seven oh four five seven ninety
six team. We want to hear from you guys on
(36:53):
the fan dual text line when we come back. We'll
put a bow on this conversation. We'll talk a little
college basketball, both duke and care line in action yesterday.
We'll talk about both of those results. Listen to the
Young Guns on Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ. You're
(37:18):
listening to the Young Guns on Sports Radio ninety two
seven WFNZ. Just want to put a bow on our
conversation that we had previously about Dave Canalis and the
whole play calling dilemma that we're enduring here as Carolina
Panther fans. Weather Man Mark wrote in on the Texa Line,
Canalis got out coached and Canalis cannot coach.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
He is yet another failure Let's face it. I hate
to say it, but he is and six. He followed
that up by saying Canal is sorry. He needs to
go this hip he cannot coach. Bless his heart, weather
Man Mark. Happy Thanksgiving to you, man. I hope you
had a great meal, but you do not appear to
be in the holiday spirit. Wanting to fire a guy
(38:00):
the holidays, excel Defender wrote in the identity of the
Carolina Panthers is called losing.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Cheer up, y'all. They're six and six trying to have
somewhat of a good You would think that this team.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
You think this team is as bad as they've been
in racing years, Like this is a five hundred football
team that's still in the hunt to make the playoffs,
and with Baker Mayfield out, especially if he's out for
a significant period of time, they should be the favorite
to win the NFC South Because Teddy Bridgewater sucks.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Whoa Teddy gloves and he's absolutely terrible.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I told you that the other the other day when
he came into the game, I thought they put a
wide receiver in the game to throw the football. He
looked that bad. So so why are you this negative?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Guys? Well, holy crap.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And I mean, and you you should understand it because
your football team has been bad for pretty much a
decade as well. Like this is what happens like when losing,
Just like when all you experience is losing, it just
kind of seeps in.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
But I think it's why, Like, oh but my fan base,
we had people I thought that Brian Dable was a
good coach, but like, and I think it's why, like
he didn't win a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Whenever we do win, I think it's why Mack tries
to like celebrate it, yes, like and just try to
enjoy it. Because while I think we're closer to winning
more than we're losing, we've still lost a lot more
than we've won. I mean, look at just the time
I've been here, this is the first time they've been
this competitive starting to finish in a season by fourth
(39:40):
year of the station, I mean usually by.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
This time, this is were you here for the Wilks here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that that that got competitive. It
got competitive. But remember when they started a fire sale.
We're used to talking draft in mid October here. Yeah,
and like that's like legitimate, like Mac putting together topics
which draft prospect are you watching this weekend?
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Oh, Joe Joe Marino usually has been on this station
at least once or twice by this time of the year,
and we're nowhere near that right now, Like there is
there is no scenario this year where you are going
to be talking draft in season and that, look, that's
a step in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Actually, I do disagree with that, because if we were
to do my XL topic, I think I don't think
XL is gonna be a Carolina Panther next year, and
we could be again a scenario, we're three straight years
in the first round, this team drafts a wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Well, I did, naughty, naughty me.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
I did take a look at a mock draft and
they had us like a fifteenth or sixteenth, and he
took Lemon, the guy from USC.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I love, I love Makai Lemon. Lemon Lemon. Yeah, so
that's who was mocked to us.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
So they would agree that it'd be three years in
a row, which I don't know if I'm sold on.
I don't know if I'd rather have an edge rusher
at that point. But anyway, yeah, we shouldn't We shouldn't
be talking draft right now. But like that's the thing,
guys like this teams that as such better spot than
what has been recently.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
And also to the people that want to fire Dave,
to the people that want.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
To get rid of Bryce, hate to break it to y'all,
they're running this thing back next year, Yes, and they should.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Oh yeah, what they've seen so far this year, I
don't see any way they don't.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Next Like, no, next year is the full blown everything
on the table. Yes, we're evaluating everything top the bottom,
including the cheerleaders, like every everyone is under the microscope.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Okay, are you doing the evaluation on the cheerleader? I
wish I would be so great. That was the creepiest
way that you could have possibly wish.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Oh, As you know, Jim Selane used to used to
judge like Bikini Contest, And I've never been more envious
of a former host his job here, and it has
nothing to do with what he got to do on
the radio. Like I would love as someone that would
watch the Dallas Cowboys making the team cheerleaders show on
SEEMT growing up, I think I know what a good
(41:57):
cheerleader looks like and what a good cheerleader a bad
one looks like, of course you do.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I think I would be phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
You put me in charge of the cheer did you
put me in charge of the cheerleading and the percussion?
We have the best in game atmosphere in the National
Football League. Thank you, Thank you for promoting it the
right way. By the way it is per percussion.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think next year, yeah, you're
gonna be evaluating everything. I mean you're evaluating everything still
this year, and this year matters because if you're coming
down the stretch, like you come down the stretch of
the season and for some reason it just gets that bad.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Oh let's just put it out though day. I don't
think it's gonna happen. They go zero to five, you're entering.
I'm still bringing canals back his asses on the line
next year like it was for Rivera in his make
or break year and when everyone thought he was gonna
get fired, and like, okay, that's that point.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I'm just so depressed. I'm okay with that, but not
get to that point.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You know, Mac has said it twenty seven thousand times.
He's actually said this more than he's brought up the
past ten games of last year. This is the year
before the year. I want to see how this year
plays out. I still think they can maybe win this division.
I still think they can maybe get to eight to
nine wins, which would be another sign of progress.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
But you want to continue to build the roster up.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Give Dan Morgan another draft class, give Dan Morgan another
shot in free AHD to add to this roster, and
then really have this roster in a position to where
Scott Federer told you it was in twenty twenty one,
where if we get to this time next year and
it looks like Bryce ain't the guy, but your roster
is ready to go win, then you go make your
move at quarterback, whether that's making a trade for a vet,
(43:40):
sacrificing what you sacrifice in the draft to get another
top tier quarterback. And we all know the next of
the twenty seven draft class is better than the twenty
six draft class. Already sure about that. Oh, you still
get the names that are gonna be out there. It's
a better draft class.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
We said that. That should be your status, Panther fans.
That's that's the point.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
That's the point is that you think that it's gonna
be better, But we've gotten to the point we thought
this year's draft class was going to be great. Man,
he thought, Oh, Garrett nus Meyer's going to be up there.
You know Leonora's sellers. How great is Lenora's Sellers going
to be? That hasn't worked out? I mean Club Kate.
Oh Jesus, just, I mean just, I mean a guy
(44:21):
that I don't even know if he's draftable at this
point in Kate Club Nick.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Maybe he is. Maybe he does end up fitting somewhere
on a roster. It's a Day three pick, Yeah, I
think so.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I think the technical term for what Kate Clubeck season
has been this year has been booty uty Udy Cheeks.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
It's too interesting. Uh So, I think ultimately what what
you want to have happened? And this is what I've
been saying about this scenario for the longest time, and
people always seem to take it differently whenever I bring
up that, I don't know if Bryce is yet a
franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
He is the best solution for this team moving forward,
because you you should not want to draft somewhere because
tell me the guy in college football that you look
at right now and you say definitively that is the
best quarterback. There's no doubt that when he comes out,
he's going number one in his draft.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Do you have that guy?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
The best quarterback, the best pro quarterback in college football
right now might be who ty Simpson?
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, Like that's that's the point that you're at.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
So you was probably gonna be to this draft class
what Mitch Trubisky was the year he got drafted. You're
gonna have to trade this is the guy We've done
enough experience to sell your soul to.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
He's not gonna have a lot of starts under his belt.
It's been shown that those guys don't necessarily succeed. Trey
Lance was very similar. A guy that played just thirteen
games at the college level as a starter, turns out
his career is a complete bust. I don't know if
that's gonna be the same thing that's gonna happen with
ty Simpson. Maybe he's a guy that does become successful.
(45:58):
But that's the thing. Who were you banging down the
door for? So that's my my uh response to anybody
that says, nah, you know, I'm hoping that Bryce isn't the.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Guy seven four five seven ninety six ten Sirloin and
b frowed in in regards to us talking about me
being a cheerleading judge. He said, w f n Z
after Dark just happened. And then my guy Jason from
Rowan Oakes said, TC from the Morning Show used to
host Monday night football from the Men's Club.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Which job would you rather have?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Would you would you rather be a bikini contest at
Hooters or host a Monday football show from the Men's Club.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I mean it's okay to not answer for him. I
mean you could not answer. But here's the thing. We
all know what the correct answer is. Because one you
all right, you see more?
Speaker 1 (46:47):
All right, let's pump the brakes. But that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
You asked a question, I gave you an answer that
would be that would be the answer that I would
go with.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
So, okay, would you rather host? Let's just cut it,
you know what, let's cut it off right there. I
was just gonna ask you that was far enough. Min's
Club or Tassels? You know which would you rather host? What?
Speaker 1 (47:09):
I football from?
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Oh? You know Tassels his home. I mean it's a
nice establishment. I drive by there and there's eight dude,
it's the same eight cars. Like I have a mental
image of the Tassels parking lot and it's to say
made vehicles.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
And I don't know if that's the workers or the
guys that are going there to Jowich. And we'll ever
forget when we went in there one time, me and
my buddy. There's a guy. No, no, no, there's a guy.
It's not bad.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
There's a guy at the bar that is not even
remotely paying attention to what's going on on stage, does
not care. He just wants He just goes there like
it's a regular bar. And it's like, sir, you could
go to so many other places that are just a
regular bar. Why do you choose to go here? He
was just watching a ball game on the television.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
I was like, yes, one television, that's it. But he
was locked in. I was like, Okay, interesting, good choice.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Jansram Maid and I still got to make our our
trip up to the Treasure Club up at Hickory. We
set the we agreed to do it, but we never
did it. Over the summer. It's something I look forward
to doing. It's one of my resolutions in twenty twenty six, uh,
go to more adult entertainment venues.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Interesting, you know, in the Year of our Lord twenty
twenty six, as some would say, go to more adult
entertainment places is the goal, and maybe our.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Resolution should be to just go to break and we
can do that too.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
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