OL Chris Myers | Where are they now?

Chris Myers played center for the Texans from 2007 through 2014. The Pro Bowl offensive lineman talked with Drew Dougherty of Texans TV about his current coaching life, his favorite memories of the Texans, and a whole lot more.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The greatest center in Texas history. One of the greatest
linemen in Texans history. One of my favorites to talk with.
It's the one and only Chris Myers. Chris, how the
heck are you, my friend? I'm doing great, Drew Man,
It's it's great to see and hear from you again,
Bud sure is well. First things first, this is where
are they now? Where are you? Physically? That's I like
that set up there in the background. You got some

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some nice jerseys up behind you. Where are you these days?
So we're just outside of Philly. My wife is born
and raised in Philadelphia, and when we were living down
in Texas, we knew we were going to try and
move back some form fashion around family. Even though Texas
was home and all of our kids were born there,
it was on the horizon that we were going to
be either going down to Florida did right family, or

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up here in Philly. And my family's well spread out
around the Eastern Seaboard, and first still tight in Philly,
so it kind of made this home. And we're fortunate
enough to get a nice little spot, a little town
called Bluebell, a little suburb outside of the city. Oh
do they have. They don't have the ice cream up there.
They don't have the ice cream wrapped import that thing.

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But you know, it's if if there's a comparable comparison
to Blue Belt ice Cream, it's that the suburb out here.
So what are you doing? Man? You've you've retired. Twenty
fourteen was your last season with the Texans. Uh what
have you been doing in that time? And what are
you doing right now? Sure? Sure? My first year or

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so back here in Philly. Um. You know, I when
I left there, I was working for six ten and
doing the morning show and kind of jumping on the
airwaves a little bit and doing the postgame show out
there and sitting with the likes of you guys up
in the press box. And I was really enjoying that,
and you know that was kind of on my radar,
Maybe this is what I want to do post career. Um.

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And then moved up here to Philly and you kind
of try and gain traction. Had some recommendations through that world,
and um, you know, did a couple of things and
stands on the stations and radio networks out here. The
Northeast vibe for former players in a market, these strong
markets out here you can't be a player from the
Houston Texans and gain credibility up here, so it's a

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little bit different. And you know, I took that with
a grain assault and I could completely see it now
because I'm a sports dock guy. I listened to the
one out here in the morning all the time. So
I kind of got away out of that line of work.
And I've been actually coaching the past five and a
half six years at a local high school out here,
just offensive line wise, because at the same time that

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same breath, I got the four kids, and my oldest
is thirteen, and trying to balance the coaching world and
enjoying every little bit of the kids sports and every
activity they have going on is kind of my my
wheelhouse and my focus right now. I was gonna say
that that's got to seem like a lot of fun,
right I mean, coaching high school kids in a specific
area of expertise that you know very very very well.

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How much fun is that for you? It's it's phenomenal.
I have like always told myself I wouldn't delve right
into a full time coaching gig right away. I wanted
to be able to leave myself out to the schools
a little my kids' schedules, which a lot of guys do.
Then again, a lot of guys like us, we can't

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just jump in halfway. When you go in there in
all the way, you're gonna jump in the deep end.
And that's kind of where I went. And the cool
thing about it is I've been coaching long enough now
out here that I've seen kids go on that were
juniors and seniors when I first started through college and
now they're coming back, and that get back and that

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payback is tremendous, And that's one of the rain reasons
that I've been loving and doing it, and I continue
to love and do it. You know that will I'll
be able to do that to my boys get to
the high school age and go there. That remains to
be seen. But just seeing the kids prosper and me
being able to kind of pass along the information that
was taught to me back in the day and they're

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kind of putting it forth throughout college and they come
back and they train. Um, it's a really really cool giveback.
I'm really enjoying the process. Is it what sort of
offense are y'all running? Is it similar to what you
did with the Texans with the Broncos at the you,
I mean, what sort of stuff are you doing that
meshes with what we've seen. Yeah, it's it's changed over
the years a little bit based upon what you know,

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quarterbacks we have and the ability that they have. There's
a little bit of RPO, there's a little bit of
zones and power game. I think any high school football
team these days isn't going to rely solely upon one
base offense. UM. A lot of it's all spread now,
reading defensive end, reading the safety down to the box.
Every single thing is checksum. I try and communicate to

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the kids now about tackles, looking at the safeties, and
watching every single thing. To be able to see everything
at the same time and knowing what they're going to do.
I mean when I was in high school and we
were watching VHS tapes and you could barely even see
guys numbers on the video tape. So UM. To be
able to have these advanced schemes offensively and defensively for

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kids when they're fourteen and fifteen years old, it's pretty impressive.
So do you find yourself channeling Alex Gibbs and John
Benton some of the other coaches from your past. When
when you're saying some things to these guys, sir, you
got to you gotta be able to filter some of
the ways you're doing the PC world we live in.
You gotta be able to not handle things the way,
especially the way coach gives used to. But no, there's

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a fine line and a great foundation that they laid
in a lot of us players that were under their reign,
and to be able to kind of have that and
be able to pass that down, just the knowledge and
the expertise and the experience that they had, and then
obviously you take in your own personal experience over playing
being able to kind of share that with the kids,

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and their eyes are just wide eyed and bushy tailed,
ready for any bit of information. They're all sponges, and
but to see them put that forth and then put
it on the field, it's a pretty cool experience. How
many over the years have realized who's coaching them? I mean,
you played a few Pro Bowls, you played some massive
games in the NFL. Help at the you the guys

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you played with there. I mean, I'm guessing a lot
of these kids, it's just like you're just coach Myers,
but there's probably gotta be a few that have realized
this guy, he's got some skins on the wall, right. Yeah,
you know, when when you retire, you kind of get
humbled a little bit with the outside world sometimes if
you're not ready for it. But in the end, you know,
I moved back up here to Philly, where you know,

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a Houston Texans name is the whole credibility, which I
don't mind at all. I could just be dad at
school and stuff. But then kind of words travels a
little bit, and then when you get into coaching world,
you know, your your coach Myers, and then kind of
the kids starting discovering who you are. I mean, everything's
online these days, and sometimes they're kind of a real
husband to talk a little bit. But then during stretch

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or during a little bit of break time, water break,
they'll kind of mention a couple of things and you
kind of realize they've been doing their own research. So
on that end, it's it's a it's a real humbling
thing because, yeah, it seems like so long a going down.
I think I'm your eight or nine out of the league. Um,
so I've been gone so long now that there's barely
anyone playing anymore. I think d Hot maybe. I mean

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JJ just retired, so I think maybe one of the
remaining guys. It's it's nuts that not that many guys
would play anymore. But yeah, I have to be able
to have these kids who basically were just born when
I was drafted. Um it's it's pretty cool. Okay, let's
go back to to the old days, before the the Texans,
before the Broncos. Tell me about growing up South Florida.

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Why did you choose to go to the U So
that's a long story, um not actually a story slash along. So,
my grandfather was an NFL referee for twenty eight some
odd years, and um so that was kind of my
intro into the football world. My dad played rugby growing up,
and I used to go to all his rugby matches.
But my grandfather was the NFL referee. And then my

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mom's brother, my uncle, Dennis, played at the University of
Miami when I was like four years old, eighty five
to eighty nine, went to few national championships, one two.
Um So then was what was Dennis's last name, Hella
her So he was like, you know, a second string
tight end and um, you know, kind of behind Rob
Chatzinski and um all those guys and um, you know

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I had Steve Walsher quarterback and four days. Yeah, yeah,
they had They had a good run, you know Michael
Vernon at all. But um, I was in that locker room.
He was taking me. He was the youngest of my
siblings and I was the oldest grandkid, so we don't
have and he was my best man at my wedding,
so we had a we still have a great relationship.
So I was in the locker room at the University
of Miami in their heyday, and I wasn't even playing

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football until I got to high school, so I didn't
play through tenth grade. And then when I started getting
recruited and Miami was on the board, I was like,
there's no way I'm not going anywhere else. So, I mean,
I didn't take official visits anywhere else, so sycro University
of Miami once they kind of said they were recruiting me.
I probably should have just to enjoy the fun out
of it, but at that point I knew where I

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was going. So that was kind of a dream come
through one that I was even recruited by in Miami.
And then fast forward to the year two thousand of
my freshman year. When I look back at the people
and guys that I played with during that five year period,
that was probably my luckiest time in my life. I mean,

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the ability for me to be able to compete with
those guys every single day, learn those guys every single day,
and then at the next level, had the fortune to
be able to play against them throughout my ten years.
We were very, very lucky to have the guys that
we did, and that's just a testament to you know,
Butch Davis and ur Keeho, Don Salinger, all the coaches
that were under us that recruited that entire group. Yeah.

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You know, you just talked about that eighty five to
eighty nine time frame that Dennis was in and I said,
glory days. Well you have to say glory days as
well for the time you were there. So two thousand,
that fall, that was first fall there, that was my
freshman fall. Yeah. So I got red shirted that season, okay, Yeah,
and then I was at I was at that Sugar

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Bowl where you guys played full Yeah. Yeah, the Gears.
You guys should have been playing in the National title
against Oklahoma that's another story. But I was at that game.
I mean yeah, I mean that was a that was
like an incredible collection of talent just in that game alone,
and I'm I'm there just watching it. And little did

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I know, a few years later, you know, I'd be
working for the same organization that that you were playing for.
So what was it like, I mean, what was practice
like on a day to day basis with with some
of the dudes you were lining up next to, in
front of across from What was that like? I mean
that you talk about iron sharpening iron. Yeah, I mean listen,

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if you go across the board at any college in
their heyday at the USC's the Alabama last decade, and
you know, Clemsons or whatever it is, they're all gonna
say the same exactly. But we had a unique situation
of a time period of the University of Miami almost
getting banned and completely dropping the program in the nineties,

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and then Bush Davis came in there and revamped it
and had these group of kids that came through as
freshman in ninety seven ninety eight and decided they were
going to be the ones. And by the time two
thousand and two thousand and one hit around their senior years,
the program completely flipped from almost getting banned to go
into the National Championship and winning it. But you're right,

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every day in practice we had a straight coach named
Andrew Swayze, who I think if you talked to any
single person from that time at Miami, he's maybe one
of the sole reasons of why we were so successful.
Putting the ownership on the players, not just them having
to buy into the coaching staff and the exs and oos,
but the ownership was in the locker room, and we

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policed ourselves, and I think that was one of the
biggest reasons why now a lot of the stuff that
went down back then probably wouldn't be acceptable these days.
And what I think that, you know, we were able
to kind of grow this brotherhood of sorts. And if
you I can show you a text we have a
text message chat. But two thousand and one team that
there's about seventy guys on and we all just kind of,

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you know, talked amongst each other ever since then twenty
years later, which is great. But you go down the line,
any position, and I try and always use the running
backs and tight ends as an example from you know
Edgar and James to you know, Clinton Portis to Willis
mcgahey and Frank Gore, and and they were just a
year after year after years sitting a bench on I

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mean Andre Johnson, you know, Hall of Fame Texan and
hopefully this year NFL. I mean he was running the
for a couple of years, behind Reggie Wayne and Santana Moss. Yeah,
just because the ability for those guys to recruit was
so strong back then, and I think, does Miami have
the talent now? Yeah, it's just being able to kind
of have a consistent coaching staff to be able to

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garner that consistency of a performances in the field. What
was it like? It's fast for a bit too. Let's
talk about that draft weekend when you're entering things and
you're wanting to go to the NFL. What was that like?
Why how'd you find out the news? Yeah? So I
was kind of a later round guy, was six round pick.

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But I had no clue if I would have been
able to go late first day or early second day
whatever that may have been. And the draft was different
back then. So yeah, you know, I had Drew Rosenhass
with my agent, and he was kind of like, you
know that it's a wide wide range there. I had
just gotten done playing into Senior Bowl, excuse me, and
there was a good results from that. But I was

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also a smaller offensive lineman, so you got to remove
half to three quarters of the teams off the list
because they're not looking for guys that are under three
hundred pounds playing. So I kind of knew my wheelhouse
of teams that i'd kind of be possibility of m
And then you're at the mercy whenever their draft picks fault,
and then there's trades that happened. So when it came

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down time and the Broncos we're on the clock in
the sixth round, I kind of knew that maybe one
of my last shots until I may become a free agent.
And you know, when the phone call happened, it's such
a surreal and it happened so fast, because when you
get the phone call, you kind of go in this
like twilight zone of sorts, you kind of like in
this oh amount and waiting for this to happen for

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so long, and it's finally here and you're talking everybody,
and then you know I didn't have any big draft party.
We had people over the day before because you didn't know,
so then some people just don't do Update two and
then you know, then you're on the first dingy smoking
to get out there for OTAs, And like I rewind
what I said before, it was a dream come true

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to even get recruited by the nervous of my I mean,
my dream school. And then I had the good fortune
of playing there for a long time and win a
national championship, so to be able to kind of keep
putting your goals in front of you one step at
a time. In all actuality, you kind of hope that
they happen. You don't ever know if they're going to,

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but you know, law of attraction and positive thinking and
just hard work and a lot of luck plays into that,
you know, for injuries and not getting injured and such.
So on that end, I was very, very fortunate. But
getting drafted by the Broncos changed my career because I
was under Mike Shanahan and the point of year at
the time was Gary Kubiak, you know, Arry, who wouldn't

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have been there, I wouldn't have gotten traded for three
years later after my rookie contract was up to go
to Houston. So there's a lot of good luck and
fortune that comes into playing in the NFL because there's
a lot of guys that come in the NFL with
ability as free agents or first round draft picks, but
then injuries and other guys behind them competing. It's just
the way the world works. You're a very level headed

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guy listening to that answer, talking about it. I was
around you for a while, so yeah, you're level headed.
But because of where you played in college and who
you played with and against, did you always kind of
have at least some part? Are you saying if I
could play with those guys and against those guys, I
could play in the NFL, I will play in the NFL?
Did you have some of that? Obviously you did, But

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how much of that factored into who you were as
a player. Sure, being a under sized offensive lineman is
a little bit more different of a mentality. There's more
of a go getter and grind it out mentality. You know,
I wasn't some big, three hundred and forty pound left
tackle that could just demolish anybody. I played with one
of those in Brian McKinney, but you know, he was

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a big monster that barely given me any any sacks
or pressures in college. I had to work forever a
little inch I got, and you know, you take pride
in that at the same time as you know I'm
going to have compounded interest work that I'm gonna have
to prove for in the NFL. And I think Indy
Calue tells a cool story when I first got traded

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to Houston. My first training camp there, it was him
and Travis Johnson and some of the old head defensive
lineman there and one of the first a couple. I
did it every day and you could call it trying
to earn your stripes of sorts. But you go to
one on one offensive line of defensive line, um, they
can get heated sometimes. But I kind of I knew

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Travis before from playing against him for many years Florida
State kind of warning. I'm like, listen, man, I'm gonna
have to get in a couple of scuffles throughout what
I was with you guys, And it's hot, it's brutal,
you're tired, it's halfway through grappice. You just want to
get through it. But that's kind of where you have
to gain credibility a little bit um. I'm never the
biggest guy in the field, but you got to be
the scrappiest guy sometimes to make up for it. Nice.

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What was it like when you got traded? I mean,
how who gave you that call? And what was the
process like when you went from there to Houston? Yeah?
Again that I came through my agian Rosenhouse, and you know,
he kind of let me know, here's where we're at.
You know, you started your last year in Denver because
of injury. The center, long time center who I credit

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a lot of where I took abilities Tom nalen Um,
all fame player for the Broncos I studied, didn't model
a lot of my game after what he did. So
I started left guard next to him for the first
few games and then he got first. I had to
play center. So when he was healthy after my last
year starting there in my rookie contract, Rosenhouse hit me up.

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He's like, here's where we're at. Like, they may be
able to sign you back, but you're not guaranteed a spot.
It'll probably be for a lot less money. Or hey,
we got this on the board and Gary Kubiak wants
a trade for you. So we worked out a sign
trade and that was history. Um, that was kind of
my best option, and I knew it would change and
trajected my career and it did for the better. U.

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I owe a majority of my career and success to
Gary Kubiak for taking that chance on me. And you
had mentioned earlier when you realize that you could probably
hang at that next level and tangibly and I know,
I know I did start and play in Denver, but
it tangibly wasn't until my second year in Houston, my

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two thousand and nine, two ten, my third year, and
he used to my fifth or sixth year where I
kind of just got it. You know, you're kind of
hanging around, you're figuring it out, you have some bad plays,
you have some decent plays, and once the game finally
kind of came to me in year five or six,
I was like, Okay, I got it. After my two
thousand and nine season, I was like, I get it
and kind of changed the way I was doing things

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in the off season, and then two and ten for
the rest of my career were my best seasons. Yeah,
you know, it's no coincidence that your best seasons coincided
with the best offensive line the franchise has ever had
as a as a unit. What was it like? Because
you get there, oh seven, you say, right, that's the
first I think I was straighted for yet oh okay,

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so that's when really things started to switch. Kubiak got there. No.
Six had a losing season, but seven eight they go
five hundred oh nine. That's the first year of the
Texans have a winning record. Took a back step in
ten and then eleven and twelve too great a year.
What was it like being a part of that kind

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of change where the franchise turned from me and losers
to starting to win some games. Yeah? I think that
goes a lot to Um, the draft people of the
people that they end up drafted, and free stance that
they signed as well. I think adding Wade Smith and
Dwayne Brown and you know, a free agent that happened
to be pretty dang good, and the Arian Foster. Um

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the additions that we had and players that were already
there that were very, very talented. I eat Andre Johnson,
Owen Daniels on the offensive side of the ball, Um,
you know, adding draft picks, like you know, first rounds
on the defensive side of the ball. Between Brian coach
and J Watt Cree Jackson that you name. It had

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a run there of a good three to four years
of picks that all messed well together. And I deemed
that part of the coaching staff, um you know from
um you know Gary COOPI at the John Benton to
anyone that you want to mention College Hannahan, they were
want to kind of mold these guys. And the entire
staff was a players coaching staff. You talk about player

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coaches and you talk about a hard nosed kind of
coaches that I need to Belichicks and Bill Parcels. Right,
Kubiak was a players coach that would listen to the players,
and he had his ear on every single wall and
knew the guy's bodies and to carry you. So you
got under an excellent level of respect for your coach
when he was kind of the headman and you kind

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of feared him to it. So the next stet at
the same time as he gave he gave you their respects,
you gave it back. Yeah, you brought up a very
good distinction there. Yes, Gary Kubiak was a players coach,
but you did point out he had an edge to
him and you had to respect him, and he'd been
through it. He wasn't just like a rob rob. You know, Hey,
I'm going to hang out with you type of guy.

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That's not a player's coach that when you're talking about
Gary Kubyak isn't. No, it's not. And I think there
was a fine line there, um, you know, and he
would draw on the sand, you knew kind of when
you could approach in a in a positive way, in
a joking way, at the same time as you union
not want to cross it. And I think he did
a great job at that. And I think we're whatever

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team he was at, he managed to have that relationship
with his players. Hence why he has a great relationship
with the guys that play with him. Now you know
that many years later, Yeah, you keep in touch with him,
You keep in touch with him, Yeah, I mean, the
further out you get, the lesson gets. I know, he's
kind of staying in touch with a lot of guys
that you know, are still playing. I know he kind
of does some consultant work here and there, you know,

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And and obviously his boys are kind of still in
the mix, so I'm sure he's coaching them up while
they're coaching. So yeah, I know he's kind of trying
to enjoy a little bit less stress on his life.
So I'm hoping it is. Yeah, you talked about his boys.
I was shivering in the press box in Tennessee on
Christmas eve Day with his youngest boy. He's a scout

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for the Cowboys and so chit chatted with him for
a little bit before the game. Do you have any
favorite or I'm sure you do, but what are your
favorite memories as a Houston Texans? Wow, Um, there's a lot,
um you know, the fortune to have a lot of
great times. They're playing there for seven years and then

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not missing a game. Uh that was that was one
lucky streak. But so I get to experience a lot
on the field. But I think there was a lot
to be said for that twenty eleven season, and I
think a lot of Texans fans can relate to that. Um,
you know, after for so long being five you just
talked about it going five hundred and being so close
and being in the mix and winning some some really

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really exciting games. Just never get over that hump and
being a part of that for a couple of years.
Three years before that happened. Um with all that happened
in the twenty eleventh season, between Shop getting hurt and
Linear getting hurt and TGA's coming in and we signed Jakeo.
Lohm and signed Jeff Garcia behind them, it was just
a tumultuous year with success and you didn't want to

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kind of lose that momentum, and we were able to
kind of keep that going a little bit, and that
that victory to secure it in Cincinnati was one of
the coolest feelings and coolest experiences I've ever had. You know,
I say a lot of the time that college football
brings about a different environment and different experience with games

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than the NFL does. But when you have an experience
in the NFL like that, it's very, very unique because
there's a lot of grown men that don't get to
show their emotions a lot. And when you've been through
a lot as a team and you have this one
defining momentum, it's a historic I mean, like, we'll be
able to have that with Texans fans forever. I remember

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coming back after that game in Cincinnati and the fans
were all outside the stadium and had a little mini
pepper ally out there there was nothing like that. And
then to be able to go and then you know,
win that first playoff game as well. Talk about the
stadium and you got it there behind you. That place
was absolutely rocking, and I think the texanspan deserved that.
I mean, you fast forward this day. To be able

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to get that place back to that kind of environment
is what everyone's wanting, even all the alumni. We want
to be able to see it kind of the way
it should be and hopefully does. Yeah, that really was
a unique situation that year. You pinpointed the quarterback you know,
kind of carousel and all the faces that were there,
but you also lost Mario Williams in week five, so

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that push Pushbrooks read up and over went Connor Borrow
and they had a great season. And then it almost
seemed like Arian Foster and Andre Johnson were tagging in
and tagging out injury wise, because you didn't have either
of them the whole way through. But yeah, what a wild,
wild scene. And then that ended up being the breakout

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year for J. J. Watt to at the end of
the season there so that was a breakout yere. So
a lot of things happened in that season for the city,
it's Houston the experience, no doubt. And then that game
that y'all win. You only led for two seconds, but
it was the final two seconds, so that those are
the ones that mattered the most. Yeah. Yeah, Well, who
do you keep in touch with? Who are some of
your buddies from those old days with the Texans? You

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know a lot of the guys, I mean, it's it's
so crazy because the way it works, guys moved to
all different cities, you know, I mean the old School
Shop and Owen Daniels and you know, Danilovsky was there
for a few years and now he's up in Connecticut.
He's working for ESPN. So a lot of the guys
you kind of keeping tabs with. But for the most part,
the most consistent is a nice little group text with

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the offensive line guys. Um, I think given between Dwayne Brown,
Wade Smith, Ben Jones, Brandon Brooks. I mean, there's a
good cycle of guys that we go through a text
message with, and um, you know, with Ben Jones still
playing and the Dwayne Brown just finishing his fifteenth year,
which is incredible. Yeah, it's a pretty cool relationship that
we have with each other. It's a very unique one

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to say the least, but close to my heart for sure.
I bet is Dayne Brown ever gonna stop playing football.
I mean, he looks like he could play forever. Duney,
I hardly got it, man. He looks like he's in
the best shape of his life. Yeah, after year fifteen,
I think that guy is just a lifer and he's
gonna try and keep playing as long as possible. And
I'm all for it. I'm living by carriers in the room.

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I'm hoping his body's feeling great. Um mine's not as well,
but uh, you know, I'm not even playing, so I'm
loving that he's still enjoying the game for every bit
of it. I don't like to hear that that your
your body's enough. Is it okay for the most part?
Or is it? Don't get me wrong. Yeah, I mean
I'm not getting any surgeries left and right, which I

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probably need a few. Um, it's just you know, the
older you get that the typical age comes in anyway,
and then all the ailments and stuff. So saying a
nice little regiment of workouts kind of keeps it fresh too,
as much as it can be. I got you, well, Chris,
what's next? For you, man, it remains a b C. Man.
I I'm in a lucky spot where I can, hopefully,

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you know, decide my future a little bit um the
coaching world, I'm really really enjoying. Like I told you,
give him back, and you know, juggling the kids in
their careers is where I'm focused on right now. You know,
I have my hands dipped in some stuff in the
business world and stuff, but you know, I'm not wanting
to have to get a nine to five full tilt
will get me wrong. There's a lot of stress that

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comes along with some things here and there. But I'm
just enjoying the family. Man. I'm really really lucky to
be able to say that, So I hope I can
keep that going. I love it. I love to hear it. Well.
Before we wrap this up, I gotta get get you
on the record, and you're the perfect guy to talk
to about this because you're his teammate in college and
in the pros. But complete this sentence. Andre Johnson belongs

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in the Hall of Fame because he is the hands
down most dedicated player I've ever seen. Without saying one word,
you know, when he got I know, I'm gonna that
was more than a statement. But when he gets going

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all of fame, um, you know, I was fortunate that
you know, him and his mom asked me to be
able to speak at that and I had a couple
of sayings where I would say a certain thing that
happened in the game or some random situation that happened,
and the answer was always, that's just dram You know,
he ended up having you know, reconstructive soldier surgery in

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college and then the next weekend ended up going out
and catching for two hundred yards or two touchdowns. That's
just Dray. And there's so many people in his life
that can say the same thing about him with multiple stories.
I think anyone that has met Drey and seen him
play or played against him will vouch for him being
a First Ball Hall of Famer. So I'm hoping that

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be able to happen, and I'm hoping I can get
an invite out to Canton to be able to watch
him wuk up on stage. That's for sure. Some tells
me you'll be there. I think you'll make that cut, Budd,
so hey, we really do appreciate your time. It's great
to hear that you're doing so well and I hope
we see again very very soon here in Houston, Andrew Ray,
seeing you all right, my friend Chris Myers. Where are

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they now?