Jimmy Kimmel

Phil and David -- unlike the "Los Angeles Times" and "Washington Post" -- want to make a big endorsement: we endorse whatever Jimmy Kimmel says. And so here with a brand new introduction, is the "Naked Lunch" episode that went viral and made headlines around the world. Yes, Jimmy talks Trump, but so much more in a funny, emotional and Italian food-filled conversation well worth revisiting before Election Day 2024.  To learn more about building community through food and "Somebody Feed the People," visit the Philanthropy page at philrosenthalworld.com.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Phil here we are.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I think before the election, we should rerun arguably our
greatest naked lunch hit.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Oh you mean Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, because this was the episode that made international headlines.
I literally landed in Sydney, Australia the day the episode
came out and there was the front page of the
newspaper about what Jimmy said about Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yes, let's not.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Let's leave it for you listeners to listen to. You
can click on the link here and hear one of
our better episodes with the great Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh no, there's so much heart and soul in it,
and then some interesting politics. But I will say we
like this. I like the saying we're not going back,
but in this exception, this episode, we are going back.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
We're going back to listen to Jimmy, Jimmy who uses
his powers for good and acts as as well as
his compatriots Stephen Colbert and Seth Myers and John Stewart,
John Oliver kind of a national social conference. And I

(01:15):
love you, Jimmy. Keep doing what you're doing here.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
He is.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
In fact, I would like to propose the law where
only late night hosts are allowed to vote that he.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Let's build the beans, chew the fat, food for thought,
jokes on tap, talking with our mouthsful, having fun with
the pas, the cake and humble pies, serving.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Up Slae Love.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Leave the dressing on the side. It's naked lunch.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Clothing optional.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
All right, first things first, you know Danielle who is
what's that?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
You know who? Danielle who d t is?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
No PIZZAA Okay, you've been, You've been or I have
not been?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
No, No, I've not been. Yeah, all right, so I
mean we're going to talk about food.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
But okay, we know Chris Bianco, we know Nancy Silverton,
great pizza makers. This is one of the best, honestly
in the world. He used to I used to work
in in Naples.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Oh okay, yeah, oh yeah, no, I know I read
about him.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah right, So we don't have pizza today from Danielle
do and wich. He makes sandwiches out of this world beautiful.
So we're very happy.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Sanity, Chicken Bar, Chicken Farms, the best in the city.
Health why not healthy? This Jimmy, we pulled out all
the stops. Yeah, I know, I really really see that.
This table.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, I got a wine tables, and we we get
we we put up extra pictures of ourselves for you.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Just keep your appetite down. I don't over eat.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
I like also that in your publicity photo it seems
that someone has put a finger on the camera lens
over David's hat and the top part of this.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
They wouldn't let the Dodgers be in the photo, is
what they didn't want to have to clear it. I said,
I I'm not a powerful man like Jimmy Kimmel, but
I could clear it.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I know.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I know, Clayton Kershaw, I know I can clear the Dodgers.
They didn't ask, so I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Do that over my nose.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
Interesting, Yeah, no, yours is perfect, Phil. And then David's
is like all mushy at the top.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Well, David's a little mush yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
But not at the top.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
David.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
No, No, that's my best part, my best feature. Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Danielle, thank you for bringing all this. Thank you pretty awesome.

Speaker 7 (03:47):
You can all.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Right, thank you, come in, come in, Jimmy, Hi, Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
To me, you too, how you doing was a huge fun?
You and oh, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I'll tell him and Danielle has his own show, much
like you called Best in dow Right now.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Nice some Hulu.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's a pizza competition show and he's one of the
great judges of the.

Speaker 7 (04:11):
I try to be nice with people that make pizza.
I'm very nice.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
They're all good. Yeah, they can't be all good. I
mean right in there.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
So that there is some there. I question my health
after eating it. But what you gotta do, you know,
I don't. I'm not the kind of guy that destroyed
feelings of people. I always cheer people up, and especially
with pizza. You know, everybody tried at least once in
the lifetime to make a piece of pizza home, right,
So we invite grandma's, people that make barbecues, mom and daughter.

(04:42):
I think pizzas for everybody, you know, not just professional people.
Pizza bring people together.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
So yeah, for sure, I agree it's a universal food.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
But you are a great chef. I know this because
over COVID, Danielle would ask me if he come over
and try out some recipes on me.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Nice. I'm a happy guinea pig.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
And he makes he doesn't make a bad thing, And
today we get to have some of his sandwiches.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
But no, you can't say the guinea pig in front
of us, in front of the two of us, it's
it's offensive. It's we prefer Italian American pig.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
I'm so sorry. I love it. It'd be funny if
this is.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
What I was canceled for. Every culture has a sandwich, too,
don't they.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think so he a form of sandwich.

Speaker 7 (05:33):
I mean, my job is a pizza chef, so I
went through the pizza flat situation. I don't know if
every culture has a sandwich, but I think every culture
has a carb and some ingredients.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
So yes, carbon an ingredient everyone else.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
Every culture has a meatball, and yet there's no meatball
emoji on the phone on the you know, there's like
a there's a governing body that decides which emojis make
it into your phone.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Is this your new campaign?

Speaker 6 (05:58):
Well no, it's an old campaign. And I found I
met with them. I made my Oh yeah, yeah, I
saw that.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I showed them evidence of what I mean. There are
certain there are are items there that but we're not
dead yet. It could happen. It could happen, but they
didn't seem to be in any rush to get it going.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Like doctor King, you have a dream, and that's right,
very stupid dream.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I can't wait for it to happen. And they call
it the Jimmy Well, that.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Would be nice, but I don't think it's even gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
To be honest with you, I'm going to help you.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Wow, how many sandwiches are we having? Tree all of them?

Speaker 7 (06:30):
It looks like, oh man, just three sandwiches.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
What should we start with? Danielle?

Speaker 7 (06:34):
If you with the boss the one, thats uh cure tomatoes,
and and Murada the skinny one. Yeah, the skinny ones,
and then go from skinney to fact, I will.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
See to be the direction while we're eating just like this.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
You should have heard Laine May Lozzerella's Delicious.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So far, our loudest eaters have been Elaine May and
Alison Janney.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
The women have been the loudest.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
I think now I'm going to really back off because
you know that I realize you're ranking people's eating volume.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'm right in there telling everyone what a pig I am.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I mean, you're a radio man. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Was that one of the orders never eat on Mike?

Speaker 6 (07:25):
That one went on said, I mean, you don't really
have to it's like, don't urinate while you're on television.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I violated that. But don't we get one or two? Oh?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I don't like the sound of chewing.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
That that turns some people off, but other people are like, oh,
it seems like you're really eating and having a real
lunch and having a real comment.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
I set you more people don't like the chewing than
do like the chewing, because I have no problem with
the sound of my own chewing, but I don't want
to hear others chew.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Hmm, maybe doing this all wrong, David. We should listen
to Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
He seems to know all right, Danielle, this is awesome.
It wasn't really good. The bread's great, Yes, everything great.
Cool cuds are great, the cheese is great. Oh. I
like you got some pickles on this guy here? Nice?
Do they have pickles in Italy?

Speaker 7 (08:17):
No they don't. But this is something I learned here.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, I learned about pickles.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, that's why you come to America people.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Jimmy, I think this would have no significance to you.
But do you You would not remember the last time
I saw.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
You, would you? Was it at the Neil Diamond Show? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
We spent the last three minutes before the pandemic happened
together watching Neil Diamond in Vegas at a great charity
event for Alzheimer's and other brain diseases called Keep Memory Alive.
But it's that was literally the day. I think it
was March seventh of twenty twenty. And what I remember
is there was no masks. There was no talk of

(08:52):
masks yet. But that was I think the day.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
That was the day.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
That was the day it all went down. And I'll
tell you a story. I haven't told you this. So
I hosted the charity event. David was there. We both
love Neil Diamond. Yes, did it. Next day I go
back to LA I get an email from somebody saying,
a man and I'll keep in mind, this is not
now everybody's head COVID or whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
This is the beginning of it.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
A man you were in contact with has COVID and
we wanted to let you know. And I'm supposed to
go tape this game show Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?
That next day, and not only was he in contact
with him, they send me a picture.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I'm hugging him, is it, babyface? No? He did get
he did get it that day. Oh really, Yeah, so
that's the only reason he's the only person I knew.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
I'm hugging this guy. Actually, we're talking about a mutual
friend who had passed away weirdly, and the guy was
in the hospital. I mean he was like, you know,
he got hit hard by COVID and I was really nervous,
you know, I was like, oh my god, this is
you know, this is like maybe a death sentence. We
had to cancel the the whole weekend of shooting the
Game Show because of this.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
And did you get it from that? No?

Speaker 6 (10:07):
I didn't get it, but you know, I didn't know,
you know, and then we didn't know how long it
would take to know if you had it or not,
or what was going to go on. But yeah, and
it just goes to show yet no good deed goes unpunished.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yes, literally in that case. In fact, I remember you
were doing that show. You were the last person to
be filming a show in Hollywood because Brad Paisley, who
wrote our theme song for Naked Lunch, was supposed to
be a guest and he asked me to be his
I don't know what you call it. On the Game
Show like the Dial of friends. Oh yeah, I was
his expert, his expert, which is a sad statement that

(10:42):
I was going to be his expert, but I and.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
That was I think did you get the call? Well?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I think what happened is Brad flew back to Nashville
and then said the news was getting so bad so
quickly he said I'm not coming back.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh so we haven't seen him since. Yeah, that's right.
Oh yeah, that's right. All right, now, I got a lot.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
I got a big mess here because I mean sandwich
that's good, and we got chicken parmers.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yell.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
Hey, I'm be darling. I'm always worried that I don't
feed the people.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah you can see, Oh mant is great with broccoli roop.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, people gotta people. Gottat a sandwich in Florence. Yes,
at this.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Marketplace that had his butcher shop. Right, they have a
very famous uh sandwich there. Yeah they're bony, they're boney,
that's right.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
And it was absolutely it was just as good as
everyone said it was. It was incredible. And this is
great too, really really good, so tasty. Jimmy, I was
working so hard over there. He doesn't know.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
It's so tasty, It's delicious.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Are those meatball emojis are actual?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
No?

Speaker 7 (12:00):
These are real meatball.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
You mentioned it makes the best. Oh, Joey, here comes
your meat book sandwich.

Speaker 7 (12:09):
I'm gonna put on there.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
When do we start the podcast?

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Jimmy, do you remember when we first met? I wonder
if you do hold on, let me think about it
for a second. Was it that Alex's lemonade? It was not, No,
it was years before. Oh I think it might be
pre Man Show even really?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah? Wow? What do you have me in napkin? Sure?
So what gear are we talking about here? Like ninety eight?
I'm gonna say ninety seven, ninety eight something like that
when I was on whin Benstein's Money, I.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Think, so, huh, I'm gonna tell you so I remember
it all right. After we would have tapings of Everybody
Loves Raymond, we would go to what used to be
the Columbia Bar and Grill and it became a Pinot
at Sunset and Vine.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Do you remember that restaurant? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
So this young I'm telling David, this young man comes in.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
And you come over to.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Me and you say, I wonder if I could talk
to you for a minute because I've just got here
and I'm just trying to, you know, do stuff. And
I was happy to talk to you. And we chatted
for like twenty minutes, half an hour, and you were
just kind of picking my meager brain about the business
in general.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
It was kind of a general thing. Interesting. Yes, you
were doing Everybody Loves Raymond.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
That's right time, because that show, I think, more than
any show in my life, captured my life to the
point where I almost felt like you were watching me.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
That was the number one thing that we got from people.
That's how we knew we were okay because people would say,
you were listening outside my house last night. Yeah, in
Ray's case that was sometimes true. But we were just
writing down the stuff that like, if you work for me,
I would say, go home, get in a fight with
your wife, and come back and tell me about it.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
That Yeah, you wouldn't have to tell me at that time.
It would have just happened.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
But that show, and you know, just the way the
family was structured and the loving but too much, everything's
too much yet.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
The nothing is ever right, even if it is right.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
And you know, mother and the wife and the brother
and me.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
You know the whole thing. You know, I really identified
with that show. So I'm sure I met you so
many times. Sometimes you forget, but yeah, I'm sure I
told you that at that time.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
You were very sweet. Then you remain sweet even though
you're a superstar. Now you're just a regular, and I
think this is your appeal.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Swab, Yeah, look at you?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Was that swab or I don't think he said I
think he said slab.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
I'm hoping he said slob.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
But he's three fisting a sandwich now, enemy ball and
the chicken. Danielle, you're gonna kill the guests, and it's.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Hard for me to not eat when there's good food
in front.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
Like an Italian, I saw him as you two skin
to Jimmy, you need to eat more.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
You're right, he gets that, so right. He has relatives.
I've seen the relatives who bottom.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Let me ask you about my favorite Billy. How's Billy doing.
Billy's doing great. He's uh, he's five years old.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
Yeah, he's I assume you're not talking about Billy Crystal,
are you, because he seems.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
To be doing great too. Mind too, he's doing great.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
He needs to have another heart surgery, and so will
I it looks like after this, Yeah, but it should
be fine, he said too, and they went great.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
And this was pre planned that, like you knew this
was coming in his life, that he would now we do.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
No, we didn't. When he was born. We definitely didn't know.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
Sometimes they know, sometimes they can tell in utero that
you're gonna need to have an operation. We did not
know until he came out.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I mean, when that appearance, if you don't mind, they'd
like to play a little bit of your christ your speech. No,
it was gorgeous and it was very and I think
it was it was essential and important and beautiful.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Do you know what I'm talking about, David?

Speaker 3 (16:31):
When your son was born, he needed a little extra help,
and you were so touching and sweet about the situation,
and you of course expanded your little speech to include
everyone and the very American problem of not having enough

(16:55):
healthcare to go around. And I just thought it was
like the absolute best use of your platform. You're using
your powers for good and you've continued to do that.
I'm just so I'm just so proud to know you,
and I just think you're terrific. We were brought up
to believe that we live in the greatest country in
the world. But until what a few years ago, millions

(17:17):
and millions of us had no access to health insurance
at all. You know, before twenty fourteen, if you were
born with congeneral heart disease like my son was, there
was a good chance you'd never be able to get
health insurance because you had a pre existing condition. You
were born with a pre existing condition, and if your
parents didn't have medical insurance, you might not live long
enough to even get denied because of a pre existing condition.

(17:39):
If your baby is going to die and it doesn't
have to, it shouldn't matter how much.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Money you make.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I think that's something that whether you're a Republican or
a Democrat or something else, we all agree on that, right,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
We do it.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Well, that's nice of you to say I have it's
you know, everything starts with a little germ. I'm sure
you guys feel that same way.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
David.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
I'm sure you were, like right, you started writing and
it became a little bigger and became a bigger part
of your life. But for me, one of the things
I always loved about being on the radio, where you
have to fill four and a half hours every day
was that when bad things happened to me, I could
turn them into good things. Because if I ran out
of gas, I knew I had a story the next day,

(18:29):
so I.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Got something out of it.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
So I was sitting in the hospital and I was thinking,
all right, what can you know? What good can we
make of this? You know this, There's got to be something.
And then of course, you know, you see these people
who devoted their lives to not just helping families, because
every hospital has doctors and nurses and all this, but

(18:53):
in this particular case, these people are in there with
their children, which is a different ballgame, and you have
to approach people in a differentferent way. And I was
so impressed by how they did, how they how caring.
They were not just in the in the er, and
I mean in the h i U Intensive care unit,
but in the elevator you'd see it, you know, in

(19:15):
the lobby.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
And you're talking specifically about Children's Hospitildren's Hospital in LA
and I've come to learn a lot of children's hospitals
as well.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
And one of the great things about Children's Hospital in
LA is they trained doctors and nurses to go to
different hospitals all over the world, so it's an important place.
But uh, you know, I just wanted to share that
and and these are not you know, this is it is.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Open to everyone.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
It's regardless of what your income is. Yeah, you'd see
these parents who probably couldn't afford to miss a day
of work because they were being paid by the hour,
spending their day there with their kids, and just the
hardship that goes along with the grief and the worry
was you know, it made a big impression on me.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's just amazing the place I've been there, I've toured
the place. We contribute as I would encourage all of
our listeners too. It's a beautiful, beautiful organization, a beautiful
place and again equal opportunity. Yes, for sure, the way
the world should be.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
I think people don't understand that sometimes when I talk
about taking our son there is but that you know,
it's like, oh, well, it must be a celebrity hospital.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
It is not. Yeah, yeah at all. And you have
a nature you go there.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
So when did you know Billy needs now another one,
another surgery that has to be hard.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
We knew at the outset well when they did the
first surgery, they said he's going to need a second
surgery in six months. Yeah, he's going to need a
an arthroscopic procedure, which he had, and then he's going
to need another open heart surgery, so he'll have one
more and then hopefully that'll be.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
It, so that the heart needs to grow a certain
amount for them to be able to do this exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Jimmy, I was happy to hear you talking on a
podcast that as a result of all he's been through
in his young wife, he's still a wild man, at
least the way you described that. This has not made
him a He's hilarious, shy and retiring kid.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
He's the craziest child in our family. And we've had
a lot of weird kids.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
And most of them employed by you on your shoes.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I have to sit. My dad said, Uh, he's in
a very serious way. My dad's he's pretty low key.
My dad goes, yeah, he's the weirdest one, and he is.
He's just like.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
We had some friends over there visiting us from Las
Vegas a couple of weeks ago, and Errol's sitting in
the living room and Billy walks in the door and
they're like, Billy and he gets shy, and he kind
of SLINKs out of the room for a moment and
then re emerges with his penis out to greet everyone.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Really, yeah, my dad, My dad used to do that.
That's him. No, he didn't. People, people calm down.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
He has me the other night he said, are Wiener
dogs long? And I said, yeah, they're like along they
have a long body. He goes, so, are there farth long?
That's a very good question.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
It's studying in philosophy schools around the world.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
And then he asked if leprechauns have a boss. He
wanted to know if it was an organized crime typest situation.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Are these all future children's the books titles that you.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Will give maybe?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
So I want to tell you about when I met you.
And I don't know if you remember at call all right,
but it was the Grammys and my memory do you remember.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Like Judge Grammy's John was hosting John Stewart right now?
Did you do one or two years with John? Two?
I did it twice with John. Okay, So here's ending
of writing on the show. Yes, here's the story. Is
that on?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
And I looked this up. I never knew this. I've
been working on the show for more than two decades,
but I never actually did the research. That's the kind
of reporter I am. And it turned out that i'd
heard Whoopi Goldberg. I don't know if she got sick
or if she had an argument with someone, but for
the reason, she dropped out, like the week or so
before the show. And all I know is that John
Stewart got the gig baby a couple like the week

(23:11):
of the show, and Jimmy, you must have gotten a
call maybe from Baby Doll.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
Is that your Yeah, John and I have a mutual
manager James, Baby Doll, Dixon, Ray Romond too, and Ray Romano.
It used to be raised yeah, not anymore but a
sorry yeah no but.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
John. No, Actually it wasn't through Baby Doll.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
Even though John just said, hey, I'm coming out, and
I said, do you need any help on the Grammys
that he said, yeah, sure, so.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
You came down there. I think it was.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
What happened was a Thursday night, I get a call
from Kennerlick saying, do you want to write a message
on my machine? Do you want to write the Grammys
with me? And I didn't get the message until Friday morning.
I didn't even check my machine. Friday morning, I called.
I called them and I said, do you mean the
Grammys that are on Sunday? He went, yes, they had.

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It was so last minute, and I drove and I
went to a room with you and John Stuart and
I think Adam Carolla.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
It was no, I think it was maybe my monim
Ore writers, John Bindes, I think it was.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
But I walked into that room and I told John Stuart, John,
I'm here for you anything you need. I'm going to
go back to the off main office, but I'll be
back later. And I went back in my car and
drove the Santa Monica and interviewed Sting And that was
over the next couple of days. We somehow did that
first year, which I looked at last night.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
For the first time I watched the show. How was it? Well?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
John was great and loose because there was like virtually
no script. And what I do remember is sitting back
there with you and making Eminem jokes, which ended up
being like the because it was Elton, John and Eminem
were that that was the year that they were together,
and it was the theme became became. I didn't know Emin.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
It was John, Elton, John very forgiving.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Very forgiving, and a great moment. It was actually really great.
But that was the first time I met you. I
was telling John Stewart to lie and saying that I
was there for him, and that's where it began.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
Well, I do remember John being so relaxed about it
and me being not that relaxed.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I'm like, we got it, we got to prep this,
we gotta go.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
And then the same deal the next year, John was
super relaxed. The next year, I don't know if you remember,
I did. We had a bit. It was the TSA.
It was really cracking down.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Between year one and year two, little thing called nine
to eleven.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
And I and we had a bit where John would
be introduced. He'd walk out on stage and then we'd
make him go back and go through the metal detector again,
and then he had to take off each article cill
the eventually he was down to his underwear.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
It was a funnier pitch and it actually turned out
to be.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
But we were going to hire an actor to play
the TSA agent and John.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
John was just like, I just want you to be
the tsagent.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
I was like, John, I think people are gonna recognize me,
you know, I'm you know, I think it's going to
be confusing and they won't understand it will kind of
kill the base.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Like no, no, no, no, he's gonna recognize you.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
It's like a uh thanks, okay, Well it was a
weird h double socided compliment and I did it, and
and yeah, it didn't go.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
As well as we hoped it will go.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
The director was Walter Miller, who at that point was
eighty one or eighty two years old, and like he'd
done like every comedy thing over the years, and he
pulled me over. He goes, if John Stewart gets in
his underwear, which is what he you know, he did
get to. Eventually he goes, he will never be back
on the Euraammy stage, which turned out to be a
true true I think.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, well, I'm sure they asked him, do you love
doing the upfronts?

Speaker 6 (26:53):
The upfront for those who don't know, it's a very specific.
It's like a trade show, it is, but you are ruthless. Yeah,
well it's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I did it the first year. I did it before
the show came on.

Speaker 6 (27:06):
So I was hired at ABC and I signed my
contract at like lunch that day, and then they said, Okay,
you're going to be on the up you know, upfront.
I had weeks and notice as well. But you're literally hosting,
and well I don't really host it. I just kind
of and I just.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
It's a state of the Union where he tells he
rips everybody, right.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
But I mean, you're everyone who works for ABC, is there? Yes,
not just the advertisers, all the advertiser their pre buying
spots on the upcoming fall season. That's what the upfronts
are for people who don't know. And you can see
your performances, I think on YouTube, right, I'm not sure

(27:47):
how have I seen them?

Speaker 2 (27:48):
It's a there was a close circuit we see. The
reason Phil is asking, I think is we worked on
the opposing team.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
We were on the CBS.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
We would work on the CBS jokes and we would
sit and watch yours because it would stream or whatever.
People it wasn't streaming yet, whatever it was. It was
a close circuit thing that we would tap into because
we would then cross out all the jokes that were
so much better.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
And I guess my point of the question is they're
not mad at you after you do these things.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Well, it's funny because the first year I did it,
I was very self deprecating, but also I like, I
said goodbye to the president of ABC, and I said, like,
you're probably gonna be fired, you won't be here next year.
Turned out to be true, and just made fun of
the idea that they were going after Letterman, and they
got me and it went over very well. And afterwards

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the president of ABC, this guy Alex Wallow's now a
good friend of mine.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
He said, that was great.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
If you showed me the script beforehand, I never would
have let you do it on any of those jokes.
And so because it worked, and because no one had
the really nobody thought to look at what I was going.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
To say, yes, they let me do it again, and
then I kept in.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
It became a thing, and then now it's one of
those things that I have to do it, whether I
want to or not.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
You make fun of the other networks, but you really
make fun of your home network.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, you have to. I think you know, if you're
gonna make fun of others, you have to.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Is it an understanding in the room from the advertisers
and the network that it doesn't The jokes really are fine,
they don't matter. They're not gonna affect business. We all
know this is all baloney and they're gonna pay anyway.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
Well, I guess the idea is to entertain them for
an hour and a half and they like it.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
So it hasn't seemed to have any practical But.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
You're literally saying these shows, these are this looks terrible.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah. Occasionally I'll single a show out.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, and usually it's funny because it's true.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yes, of course it's true, that's what.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
But typically I won't make fun of the shows themselves
so much as just like, well, now, the thing is
like nobody's watching us anymore. Nobody's watching network television, even
even the people are watching it on network to our
watching it on other platforms, you know, like our show.
You know, people watch it on YouTube for the most part.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I watched Jimmy on YouTube this morning. Yes, because I have.
This is another thank you can't stay up late exactly.
A big thank you I have is in February this year,
you had Ringo on I think for the second time
in a few months, and it was a big night
in my life because I had helped Ringo with the
two books during the pandemic. Right, I spent you know,

(30:27):
a lot of time at his house in a mask,
helping him do these two books. I the day he
was on your show, My Aunt Linda. My parents are gone,
but my Aunt Linda is the closest thing I have
to a mother on earth. And she's the aunt who
calls about everything and thinks you're the center of the world,
kind of relative. And she called me and she goes,
I'm gonna watch Ringo on Jimmy Kimmel. Do you think

(30:49):
he'll mention you? And I'm like, Aunt Linda, there is
no save yourself some sleep, there's no chance at Ringo.
I didn't even take a credit, like as a co
author in the book, because I know it's going to
sell more if my name's not on it. Let it
be Ringo and then he can thank me inside and all,
but you out of the kindness of your heart, which
is comes through in everything you do.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Like he's talking, and.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
You said, Ringo, you did this book with the great
David Wilde, the great writer. I got two greats in
one sentence, and my aunt like fell over. It literally
was the happiest moment in her life. And so thank
you for somehow contriving to make my Aunt Linda Happyess.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I meant it.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
And you know, if I can make Aunt Linda happy,
that's all I ever could all ask for.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
It's all about it, Linda. And I also know I
know the reality of how that works.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
He did a lot of work on that, you know,
and and it was really good and and you deserve
to be mentioned.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Well he was. He was great with you, like, oh,
he's so great, he's the greatest. Personality. Is so loose.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
It's like I did not anticipate my name being mentioned.
And a fart joke, like you showed the fart from
Get Back?

Speaker 6 (32:00):
Have expected from me? That one you should have seen coming,
even at Linda should have known that. It is the
best moment in the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
It is great. In the sixth episode, How long is
that Get Back?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
It's thirty hours. It's longer than show a similar sort
of document, but there's more laughs and show exactly no.
But the fart joke, well, Jimmy pulled it right out.
I don't know how you cleared that. It's like you
call Apple, It's like, yeah, can we have the ten
seconds of gas being passed by a beatle?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well?

Speaker 6 (32:29):
I think that was uh yeah, that was a Disney thing, right, Yeah,
so it's okay, yeah we can you know.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
But how cute is it to have a Beatle just
say a faulted? It?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Every That's the thing about being Ringo or Paul McCartney.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
Everything you do is interesting, Like I mean, it's everybody
is interested. Like you know, I would ask I could
ask Ringo like how many times the day do you
brush your teeth?

Speaker 1 (32:54):
And the answer would be interesting to me no matter
what it was.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Like, don't you want to ask him? What do you
what did you eat on the road? What was your
face go to? Like snacks?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well, Jimmy, you did talk about that. Like the fact
that they and in the book, it was something that
fascinated me. They shared rooms like for the touring years
like brothers, they had to pair up. It's like they
didn't for a suite for each one of them.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I love that stuff.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
Yeah, that went on in sports for a long time too,
Up until not so long ago, you'd have guys making
ten million.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Dollars a year who were bunking sharing a room at
the Hyatt. You know.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
See, I do a thing where whenever I go to
a city, I try to see if the Beatles stayed
there when they were touring, and I try to stay
at those hotels and it's always amazing how they're not
the greatest hotels like CBS for the Upfront put me
in the same suite where the Beatles were for Ed
Sullivan the second time, because it was the place I
stayed in Seattle. My wife is still pissed off which

(33:47):
one was there?

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Which Russia? Which hotel? It was a Warwick.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
They stayed at the Warwick the second time, and I
always asked for the Beatles room, the one in Seattle
I stayed at, which is this weird hotel on the water.
You have to pay extra to get the Beatles. Oh,
really have a few pictures, but it's a great you know.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
I just there's a room at a hotel in Seattle
that led Zeppelin stayed in and uh we fished out, Yeah,
they were fishing out out.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I got to stay in Montreal at the at the Fairmont,
in the suite where he had John John and Yoko
had a bed in and the and the room is
kind of half museum.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
But then let me stay in it. Oh cool, it's
very cool. No.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
I haven't done a tremendous amount of traveling, you know,
just because of my job.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I never really have. You like to do a lot
of time off. You like to go and fish. I
like to go fish, fly fishing for trout. Yeah, do you?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Brad Paisley called last night. He said, do you fish
with Uey Lewis?

Speaker 1 (34:51):
How you? And and and and how is that? How
is he you?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
He was a big hero to you.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Was?

Speaker 6 (34:58):
Yeah, it is still. Hue got me into fly fishing.
I always love to fish. When I was a kid,
my band leader Cleto and his dad, both of whom
are in my house band. On the show Wed go
to Lake Mead, which is now now you can fish
for a human corpse because but we'd go to Lake
Mead outside of Las Vegas where I grew up, never

(35:19):
catch anything. I mean I think I called one fish
my whole childhood. And it turned out I have like
the line I had on my rod and reel was
like fifty pound test weight. It was like it was
as thick as a garden host. You know, There's no
chance I was catching a bass for that. But anyway,
we go fishing, and then Huey was on the show,

(35:40):
and I always loved Huey Lewis, and I said, what
are you?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
What do he lives in Montana? What do you do
in Montana?

Speaker 6 (35:47):
And you know, as people from the east coast in
Vegas will say to people from the Mountain West, like,
what do you do up there? Just nature, he said,
while I like the golf and I ride my horses,
and I fish. I go fly fishing, like, oh, I've
always wanted to try that because I saw a river
runs through and I read the book and he said,
come up. I said, now, is this a real invitation

(36:07):
or is this one of those come up? Because I'm
going to need a date. If you give me a date,
I'll come up, but otherwise I won't come up. And
so he gave me a date and I brought actually
I brought Cris Bianco and Adam Perry Lang up there,
my band leader, Cleido. We all went up and and
we stayed at Hughey's place, and I just got really

(36:27):
into I loved it immediately.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
It's something that I love to do.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
I find it to be meditative and something that really
resets me.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
It's it's yeah, when you work as hard as you
do and have the same kind.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
Of being in the city being outdoor and just listening
to the river and focused on that little fly floating along.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
You're not alone, Lanry Winkler.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
He just had on It was like I had relatives
with said. I said, are you the top Jewish angler
in the world. He goes, he goes, No, fishing is
my religion, he said, it really is.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Henry and I fish in the same spot actually all
the time.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, we have not fished together yet. We're going to.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
We just missed each other the last couple of summers,
but we talk about it all the time.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
The sweetest and yeah, he sent me some flies. Yeah,
And I know Letterman likes to fish. Have you been
with him? No, Letterman is. I think he's a wade fisherman.
He likes to be out there waiting by himself.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
I try, I I I try not to bother Letterman because.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
I think we have a stalker. Yeah. I don't want to.
I don't want to make him uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
So his last appearance on your show, which just happened
in Brooklyn, was so good. You guys are great together.
I can see why he likes coming on the show.
You don't have to really convince him to come, do you.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
No, not at all.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
He's so nice, is I just it boggles my mind
and especially my friends from high school, you know, because
we you know, we love this show. This is like
our i mean, changed our sense of humor. He would
have themed birthdays. Yeah, I had about him. For my
sixteenth birthday, my mom got me a Late Night with
David Letterman Letterman jacket that she had made at the

(38:18):
sporting goods store, and I was the only person who
didn't work for the show.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
That had one.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Do you have some of the jackets?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:25):
From the Yeah, the World Wide Pants. Yeah, because I
worked for World White Pants. They were producers on Raymond,
So every year I got a jacket.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah, I have.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
The show, right, Yes, I got they got the But
but don't you feel like he's gotten sweeter as a
human being?

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Well?

Speaker 6 (38:47):
I didn't know him beforehand, but yes, I by the
accounts of people I know, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
The birth of his son, the the the end of
the pressure of having to do the show all the time,
he just has mellowed. The beard is like almost like
a an embodiment of his changed.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (39:07):
I think you well, I think so, I think uh,
I think he would probably agree with that.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
I mean he's super he's super sweet. No, I think,
yeah he is.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
I mean he's very like he was complimentary of our
staff afterward and singled people out and dream. I mean
that's uh, you know, but it's crazy for me. It'd
be just I just sit and see him walk out.
I just start laughing.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I don't know what it is, but like when I
introduced him and then he.

Speaker 6 (39:31):
Walks out, it just it just gives me a little laugh,
Like how did this happen? Like I was drawing pictures
of him when I was in high school, like all
the time, Like I had Late Night with David Letterman
the Chemistry book cover, uh, Late Night with the Letterman
English Literature.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
You know.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
It was just like a dumb thing that I would do.
I made pins with his face on them. If I
ever showed him all his crap, he probably never speak
to me again.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
The police. Yeah, it's it's disturbing. Like I don't know
how i'd react to it.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I was trying to you had a hero and and
and look you you emulated him at the beginning, I think,
and now you've become you and now people are going
to emulate you.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
He said it on the show he's right. Yeah, he
was being nice. I don't think so, but absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
I was trying to explain his greatness to my kids
because there's a generation that doesn't realize how groundbreaking he was.
And to me, I tried to compare him to Sinatra,
like if you listen.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
To that's a reference the kids are really Come on, kids,
you have to know Frank Sinatra. You have to know
David Letterman.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Is do you?

Speaker 6 (40:38):
Though they'll never understand you, It doesn't matter how because
it's what it's like. You hear Whatever version of a
song you hear first, is the is the original version,
no matter who wrote it, right, Like we think of
my Way, we think of Frank Sinatra, it's Paul Anka's song,
you know. But I think if you show them David
Letterman's YouTube channel, have you have you been on that?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
No? Oh, it's great.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
They have everything you mentioned on the show, but I
have not it.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
Those bits hold up, Yes, they do unbelievably well. Yep
and and and I think that's all. It just just
turn them loose on that because that that'll tell them
everything they need to know.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Do you think the kids like it? Have you shown
the kids Star Wars not yet.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
No.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
I feel like if you were to show a kid
Star Wars and listeners correct me if I'm wrong. If
you show kids Star Wars now, they go big deal
because everything's surpassed it in terms of special effects, and
the pacing is really more than anything like these.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Like my kids like, I'll show them.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
I'm like, oh, we're gonna watch honey, I shrunk the
kids and like it's like six minutes of like theme
song and set up and you know, establishing shots or whatever.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
All right, I'm gonna go play.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
You know, it's like, you know, they kids never wanted
to see old movies, and by old it was anything
from before they were born.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Yeah, it's heartbreaking when I showed my kids Meatballs because
to me, Meatballs is like Citizen Kane of comedies in
my memory. And then you try to watch it with
a young, you know, team at that point.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
For you, it was there was an enormous movie. The
actual meat were having Today.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
There's an enormous pair of underpants for waving from the
flagpole and the pranks on morning.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Oh that's a great movie. Yeah, I love that movie.
But I'm telling you the Letterman bits. Yes, hold up
and your kids will like them. And you're on YouTube
hosting a couple of your favorites, right.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I did.

Speaker 6 (42:38):
Yeah that was hard, you know, you know they say, look,
what are your favorite Letterman bits? I mean I saw
every show, you know, so like, oh my god, how
can I I had to really think about it, and do.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
You have a couple of favorites? Like absolutely? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (42:53):
There was a Yeah, there was a There was a
theme song they did called It's a Late Night World
It's the Late Night World of Love where they were
singing and there was a bouquet of flowers and Dave
just peeks his face through them.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
It doesn't sell what he was fucking hysterics.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
It's a character laught Just Shades, Just Bulbs where he
goes in the Just Shade store, in the Just Bulb store.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Do you remember the third anniversary show when Larry bud
Melman was welcoming visitors.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
Yes, support authority, yeah, and not understanding how microphones work.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
I don't think I've ever left so hot in my life.
Is that on your list of the in the YouTube?

Speaker 6 (43:32):
I don't remember, but that you know, I don't think
I did put that on the list because it's a
you have to watch the whole thing. If you watch
even what they had on the third anniversary shows, it's
overly edited. When you watch this progression throughout the night
of him checking in with Larry and he's got the
mic and he says, are you enjoying New York? And

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then halfway through his question he moves the mic to
their face. You can't hear the rest of cries, and
he kept do you get wrong?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Every question Larry bud Moulman was so fu you live
for that right to find those people. Howard Stern asked
the one of the great questions ever asked of David Letterman,
and this was maybe ten years ago at his big
birthday party. He said, when Larry bud Melman died Calvert
de Forest, did you go to the funeral?

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Where did that question go from? What was the answer
to that? Of course, he wouldn't go to his family's.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
He won't go to his own funeral. Howard Stern is
not going to go fishing with you at any point?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Would he?

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Uh, he won't fish, but he'll come.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
He'll come up, Yeah, he'll he'll be the lodge buddy.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
He loves that area because apparently when he was a
kid he was a camp counselor, and they would take
they would go up there and and he has fond
memories of it.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
So yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Okay, uh, so many things we didn't even get into
the chefs.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Then what else we talk about? The chefs that we love?

Speaker 6 (45:04):
Chris Bianco? Where'd you meet him? Met Chris Bianco at
his restaurant Phoenix. My parents were living in Phoenix. I
read about him in the New York Times. I said
to my dad, how have you ever been to this place?
And he said, no, I never have. I went to
college in Phoenix. And I said, well, we got We've
got to go with her when I come back. So
I went back at Christmas time and Chris was closed.
He closed over Christmas because he made all the pizzas.

(45:26):
And then the next year I'm like, all right, we
got to go. Closed again. And then the third year
I decided to come out before Christmas so we could go.
And I met Chris. He was, you know, work in
the oven and confused as to why I was there
or interested in him, and I really liked him. And
I was doing the San Gennaro Feast here in La Thing,

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and I said, you want to come be on the
show and cook at the San Gennaro Feast because I
do this. Pizza was great, and he's like, well, what
would I do about the restaurant. I said, doesn't anyone
else here know how to make pizza? And he said, yeah,
they do. I go, all right, well let them make
pizzas one night. He's like, okay, So he came out.
It had not occurred.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
He made everything by himself. It not occurred to him.
He came out.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
We hit it off in a big way and we
became very close friends.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
And Adam Perry Lang is somebody I met on the show.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
He had to barbecue place Daisy Mays in New York
and remember that actually my boss at ABC eight there
and he's like, this place is unbelievable. We gotta have you,
gotta have this guy on the show. So he booked
him to come on the show. I didn't know where
he was he and he cooked a roasted a whole
pig in our parking lot, which of course horrified most of.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
The women on the staff, but it was so good,
and we became friends.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
And then I met a lot of all the other
guys that I'm friendly with, like Mark Vettri I. I
met him at his restaurant at Philadelphia and just have
one of the best meals I ever had.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
You and I are both very involved in Alex's Lemonade,
which and that's where I got to know a lot
of these guys through Alex's Lemonade that Susanne and going
who I Love and Mark really organized here in.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
I've not been to the Philly to go to that one.
Can you explain what that is? Alex Is Lemonade.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
It is a It's Alex's Lemonade stand. This little girl
named Alex. It's I get upset when I talk about it. Oh,
you're so sweet.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
He he She had cancer and she wanted to help
other kids and she started a lemonade stand. And today
it's they've made tens of millions dollars, continued like her
parents continued, and they're so they're so sweet, the parents
and everyone involved. Besides how great the cause is. It's

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probably the best food events in the country. Absolutely right,
it is. You've got to come with me. It's the
best charity event.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
It is.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
It's you know, charity events are for charity, and you
know that's the point of them.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
This one's also like for you great.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
Yeah, and you meet a lot of these these chefs,
and I love chefs in general because they are so.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Like nurturing. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
And and ultimately they want to feed people. Yes, they
want to do as good a job feeding people as
they can, like Danielle and and and and so there
are a group of people who do a lot more
charity work than anyone else, even comedians, like you know,

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it's like, hey, well you just charity, but they're just
they were going to do that anyway at the comedy
store that night, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
You know, but cooking is work.

Speaker 6 (48:37):
Yeah, cooking is work. It's hard work. And it's a
great group of people. David Chang is a good friend
of mine, and uh Billy Derney, the barbecue guys in Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
You know, all the geniuses.

Speaker 6 (48:50):
Yeah, I mean I admire what they do. I know
how much work they put into and how much creativity.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
And they're artists. Yeah, and they're they're really special people.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Event in Vegas to keep memory alive for year after year,
you know, and it means a lot to me a
you know, because it's about Alzheimer's and it makes me
think of my dad. You also get to see Neil diamond,
which is I do that right anyway. But you watch
Wolfgang Puck who runs that one, and he's just sort
of like making eight hundred people or a thousand people
get served exactly on time.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
He is an unbelievable person. Yeah, he wasn't yelling, he
was just sort of he's smote me.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
As famous as he is, he's underrated as a chef.
He's say, great chef.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
He told me a story.

Speaker 6 (49:31):
I don't know if you know this story, but it
to me is one of the all time great stories.
Johnny Carson used to come into Spago. But Johnny will
like to bring a pizza home. Yeah, and he asked
Wolfgang to not cook it all the way, just cook
it a little bit. And Wolfgang's like, A, I don't know.
He's like, yeah, because I like to put him in
the freezer and then cook him later. And Wolfgang was like,
oh my god, he's ruining my pizzas. I don't want

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him doing that. I'll bring it. He's like, no, no,
I'll bring him to your house anytime. Don't worry Johnny Water.
Johnny's no, just make me just park cook him a
lit little bit and I put him in the freezer,
and so Wolfgang said, let me see what how this
comes out. So he did it himself. He put it
in his freezer and he put it back in the oven.
He said, this is actually pretty good and started selling
frozen pizza.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
So, Johnny, the reason there are Wolfgang Puck frozen pizza
is because of Johnny Carson.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
Maybe even the reason there are high end frozen pizzas
in general.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Has him right?

Speaker 6 (50:24):
Yeah, you gotta thank Johnny Carson.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
You just re upped for three years, so you're so
you do enjoy hosting your show?

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah? I do. I like.

Speaker 6 (50:37):
I like working with the people I work with. I like,
I like the people who run the network. I like,
I like I want to be on the air when
Donald Trump goes to jail.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
A very much beautiful, What a beautiful sentiment. I think
I would be heartbroken if I was. What's your cut?

Speaker 3 (50:56):
What's your gut?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Tell you? And you know people, what do you think
my gut?

Speaker 6 (51:00):
First of all, I'm tell you, my gut always tells
me the wrong thing, like when it comes to Donald Trump.
But I still believe, even even after living through the
Oja trial and whatever, that I still believe that justice
triumphs in America, and and I know there are a
billion different examples to the contrary, but I just there

(51:23):
just seem to be too many different cases against him.
I mean, the guy is how I mean, how can
you commit this many crimes and be this unethical and
be this yeah, this terrible and get away with that.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
I just I think his own the only way he's
going to get.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
Away with it is if you know, he has a
heart attack or something and uh and and that's the
last we see of him.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
And I feel like in some ways that's what he's
trying to do.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
He's just trying to draw this out until he dies
or until there's no democracy left.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
Then yeah, well that case, that's he's perfectly okay, I
think with with that being the consequence of his actions
to save himself.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Uh, this is what I mean by what you talk
about on the show Nightly is not politics. I'm sure
you get crap from Trump supporters, oh yeah, yeah, but
this is beyond politics.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
We're talking about human decency.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
I mean, I wasn't a George Bush fan either, but
I didn't go after him every night and whatever.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (52:29):
Yeah, I mean I think that at his core, he probably.
I mean, obviously he made some mistakes, but they all do.
And and this idea, I gotta tell you what really
burns my ass.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
And he's just Joe Biden.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
Look, I mean, whatever you think about him, a decent human,
decent human being, he's a nice old man who cares,
who quite plainly cared about people through his whole life.
And this idea that he's some kind of like demand,
I mean, it's just like it's such a stretch you

(53:05):
can't even believe. It's like you go, like.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
What like, Okay, what the what the fuck are you
people talking about? I mean, he might disagree with them, yeah,
but isn't certainly not evil. I mean, I if you
believe that, you've got some real problems, so these are
extreme political views you have. And does ABC ever say
to you, hey, could you not just attack this side

(53:29):
and lay off a little bit because we're gonna lose
those people.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
There was at one time, maybe I don't know, like
right around the beginning of this whole like Trump thing where.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
This is now eight years ago, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Something like that.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
Maybe not quite that long ago that that was like
kind of hinted at. But I just said, I said, listen,
I get it. I mean, I don't disagree. I mean,
you're right. I have lost half of my fan maybe
more than I mean, you know, ten years ago, among
like Republicans, I was the most popular talk show host,
you know. I mean, you know, at least according to

(54:09):
the research that they did. But huh, And I get it.
If that's what they want to do. I just said, listen,
if that's if that's what you want to do, I understand,
and I don't begrudge you for it, but I'm not
going to do that. So you know, if you want
somebody else to host the show, then that's fine, that's
okay with me.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
I'm just not going to do it like that. And
they're like, all right.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
Really yeah they didn't. No, oh they knew I was serious.
I mean, you know, I just I can't. I couldn't
live with myself. I see this.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
You know.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yeah, well you're doing a public service, you Colbert, the
Seth Myers that these are the guys. You're the guys
who I don't think it must feel.

Speaker 6 (54:49):
I don't think of it in that alone grandiose away,
but I do think, like you know, I love this
country too. I mean, you know that flag doesn't belong
to them.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (54:59):
This is ours and and when I see somebody coming
in and ruining it, I'm gonna say something about it.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
That's it. That's as simple as that.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Well, I'm telling you you don't have to put it
that way, but I'm putting it that way. And I
think a lot of people feel comforted knowing they're not alone.
Well you don't think, is it just me? Am I crazy?
When you guys come out and you do this wonderful material,
that's that's funny and enlightening it.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
I feel like that about my colleagues. I I you know,
and I see you know Steven, and yes, but you're
right there. No, I feel I just I feel like
proud to be part of this group. Should be you
should be because I do think that there is you know,
there isn't a sacrifice that you make when it comes
to your audience, you know, and you could do pretty

(55:44):
well if you just just stayed right down the middle,
if you wanted to.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Are you surprised, like Trevor Noah, who I had a
great time working with the last couple of years, when
something like that doesn't want to keep going forever, like
you clearly have done this. You're running the marathon and
in the show's better than ever.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
But no, it doesn't. It doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 6 (56:03):
It more surprises me that we do keep going long
because it's a hard you know, it's a hard I
mean it's not we're not digging. Obviously, there are certainly
jobs harder than ours, but it's it just takes your
takes your whole life over, you know, something you have
to think about all the time, NonStop. And I could
see why in a stand up comedy. It's other than
the travel, it's an easier life, you know, and there's

(56:26):
some wisdom to just enjoying your life. And also, Trevor
Noah is, you know, was not born in this country,
so maybe he doesn't you know, maybe he wants.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
To go home, you know, or anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Yeah, you heard it here, Jimmy Kimmel's saying Trevor Noah
should go home.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
You see there you go.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Yeah, the anti immigrant bias of the Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Show is really a problem. Jimmy, we love you.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
I'm such a fan. I'm so proud. If I can
be proud of.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
You, Well, that's nice.

Speaker 6 (57:01):
The same way and I'm honored to be part of
this and I'm so I really am impressed by what
you've done here is you've taken.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
You've become like this beacon of food.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
I imagine though people are driving you crazy every time
they go anywhere, asking you where they should go.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
But I also imagine like being nice enough to tell them.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
I feel like I have a purpose, yeah, whereas before
I didn't really And it's and it's great to shine
a light on these great chefs and this great food.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
And not with chefs, but even the little joints. Yes,
of course they make the world better. Yeah, right, sure,
what's better than lunchtime? Nothing?

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Nothing used to be the name of my production lunch.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Where's lunch?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
It's our main preoccupation in the writer's room.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
The only sunshine coming in is the menu, That's right.
Jimmy Kimmel, everybody, David, do do you want to say
one more thing?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
What about Aunt Linda? Does she listen to the podcast? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:52):
She's not a fan, all right, people, Jimmy Kimmel, thank you.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Thank you. That was fun and the food was delicious,
Thank you, thank you, guys. Danielle.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
Naked Lunch is a podcast by Phil Rosenthal and David Wilde.
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