May 22, 2025 • 52 mins
The great stand up comedian Todd Barry -- who Phil and David both love, and David worked with once, long ago -- joins the show for a very funny long distance "Naked Lunch," complete with all sorts of great stories and even a few cat cameos on the video version. For more on Todd, go to https://www.toddbarry.com. To learn more about building community through food and "Somebody Feed the People," visit the Philanthropy page at philrosenthalworld.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
David phil who's up today on Naked Lunch.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
A comedian who I worked with once many years ago,
and will find out if he hated or liked me.
But he's a genius comedian.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
He's one of my favorites. Ladies and gentlemen, here is
Todd Barry.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Let's build the beans to the fat, food for thought,
jokes on taip, talking with our mouthsful, having fun, the
peace of cake and humble pies, serving up slice live.
Leave the dressing on the side. It's Naked Lunch.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Clothing optional.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I hated Florida. The only good thing about Florida great
air conditioning. Everywhere I meet people every year summer in
New York would tell me they don't like air conditioning.
They're like, I don't like air conditioning.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
It's not natural.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I don't like it. And I guess I see their point,
because what is air conditioning. It's just a definite solution
to a problem. It's hot in here. Click now it's
cool in here. Oh, you're right, this does suck.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Uh, Todd, do you remember that we we worked together.
It's so long ago.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
I believe it was the VMA's with Ben Stiller hosting.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think it was Chris Rock hosting. Is that possible? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:46):
But I was on Chris Rock's private little writing team there,
oh you were, yeah, which meant I got to go
to McDonald's and go to the movies.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I remember working on the Chris Rock episode of or
the Chris Rock vm A so much because he told
the meanest, funniest joke I ever heard at an award show,
which was Good Charlotte, the band that was sort of like,
you know, uh, punky and poppy. They played and as
soon as they finished the last chord, he walked out
(02:21):
and said, good Charlotte more like Shitty Green Day. And
I happen to be standing next to them when they
walked off stage, and they just sort of the elation
of playing their their punky poppy music was immediately deflated
and they started twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's amazing. You know he could get slapped for something
like that.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Yeah, you remember his intro for Britney Spears. No, He's like,
you guys ready for some good lip syncing? Wow?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Very mean.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Now, Todd, have you met ever Phil Rosenthal as far
as you know, No.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
But I I did have an exchange with you on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
We did what did we say, yeah it was.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
It was hostile. No, it wasn't wrong. It was I
said that I just went to a restaurant in Bangkok
that you recommended something. I forgot what I was, and
then you said which one was it? And I told
you and go, okay, we can be friends something like that.
That's a paraphrase.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's nice. Now let's figure out which one it was.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Do you think it was?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Which one?
Speaker 6 (03:27):
I think it was called Cafe Air.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
It wasn't the crab omelet from j FI?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Was it?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Na? That wouldn't be me.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Why wouldn't it be you? You don't like great things?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Oh shit, Oh that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
This is now a Godzilla movie.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
For those of you listening only, please go to YouTube
just so you can see what just happened.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I know that. That's there's your little pull quote or
whatever they call it, not pull.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But the highlight reel crazy.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Was it a crab omelet? Yeah? I'm not a big
egg guy.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh okay, that's why it's not here.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But you are. I discovered by listening to a bunch
of podcasts you've been on. You are a food lover
and a traveling A traveling man so I.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Feel like, why didn't he travel here to eat with us?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Not like it's like la, He's like, where are you top?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I'm in New York City.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh that's why. All right, we'll have to New York then,
I'd love to That's great. What part of town are
you in?
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I live in the village, nice sort of Union Square area.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And that's the famous cat from your stand up.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's she's. Uh, she's right here, ready to
work whenever you need her.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You're one of the few comics I know that have
a cat hunk.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
I did my last Tonight show I did.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It was fantastic. I love that you do the three
or four things about the cat and then you go
to leon It's gonna be all catch up. You're a
great comedian. I love you. I think you're just fantastic.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
Oh, thank you really, And I like your show and
your shows.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
What you can compliment David if you want, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I love Todd because we worked together and he made
me laugh just hearing everything he had come up with.
But I then got your first record, I think, or
one of the early records.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Oh you wrote a review of it, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I think I did. I loved I loved it, and
I think my wife and I to this day. Every
time it's the time of year when you turn on
your air conditioning, which is sort of now in LA.
Recently when it was ninety five degrees for Mother's Day,
we always do your air conditioning joke, which I don't
know is that your Is that like your stairway to heaven?
(05:53):
Or are we the only ones who were obsessed with
that joke?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
That's my freebirg.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, can I hear it? I don't know it.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I mean it's something like I met people who don't
like air conditioning. I don't know what. I can see
why they went because what is air conditioning a definite
solution to a problem. It's like it's hot in here, now,
it's cold in here. I forgot the rest of it.
I haven't done that choking thirty years.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Or whatever well that was, I think, yeah, ever ever
since then, I feel we have a bond, but I
don't know that. Yeah, I didn't know that you remembered me.
But I'm so glad that you're.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You have so much in common. You both like air conditioning,
we both exact air condition based relationship. How old is
the cat?
Speaker 6 (06:40):
She's seven? Oh? Nice, yeah, yeah, do you have one?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I did when I was younger.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Uh, we had a cat.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
My parents didn't want pets because we were enough, and
we found a cat and it took every day to
get our dad to okay it. The whole neighborhood of
kids came around and begged my dad to let us
keep this cat. It was like a real investment in
the cat. And years go by, six, seven, eight years,
(07:17):
I think, and the cat gets sick and they take
it to the vet. My mom takes it to the vet,
and we're having dinner that night, and so what's going on. Well,
she wanted to make the announcement at the dinner table
with all of us, with my brother.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Me and my dad.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The cat's very sick, but the vet said there is
an operation that could work. And my father asked how
much is it? And my mom said two thousand dollars
and my dad said, and how much is it to
put the cat to sleep? And she said thirty five
dollars And my dad looked at my brother and I
(07:57):
and said, say goodbye to the cat.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Oh, my god, and brutal.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So now flash forward to forty years later, at least
forty years, maybe fifty years, my dad's sick in the
hospital and the doctor says to my brother and I
there is something we could do that may work and
may not work. And I couldn't help it. But I
(08:26):
asked the doctor how much is that operation? And he said, well,
I'm sure insurance will take care of it, but you know,
the deductible could be, you know, several thousand dollars. And
I looked at my brother and went and said, goodbye
to your father.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
That's brutal.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, it was just a joke.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I know that Todd Barry thinks that jokes rough.
You're reversing parts like. The reason I desperately always wanted
you on this podcast beyond thinking you're so funny, is
that I think of you and Phil as having utterly
different energies like you have. I don't know if it's
you self identify as dark or sardonic or whatever. And
(09:07):
Phil goes around the world and he's like people bringing
them their his puppies.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I hug people.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
He hugged people.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But I tell me, if you believe in this, for
you to be friends with somebody, I always say, you
got to have a sense of humor that that that's
the number one thing, right, right, But it doesn't have
to be my sense of humor. You can appreciate other
senses of humor, right.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Oh. Yeah. I have friends who I act differently like.
I have friends who I'm almost never funny around. Yeah,
And then I have friends where it's just we insult
each other ninety five percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
And then there's friends that have get I might get
silly around, but I have noticed that I don't. I
don't have the same personality for everyone. But you are
a fraud, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But you're no. But your your stand up is dry
and great.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Uh, there's a thing you do in transition. It's almost
as if you're ticking off the list of things that
I that you have to cover m and I feel
it's a great It's kind of a misleading setup, is that. Well,
there's that I'm saying. In your transitions you go like
(10:16):
a bout a cat the other day, you know, like
this kind of thing where it's just like, here's something
else I got to talk about. That's and and it
misleads you into thinking, uh, the rest of it will
be that kind of reading off a list, but it's not.
It's everything then is invested, and I think it's fantastic.
(10:37):
Does that make sense that you know what I'm talking
about this kind of mislead?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I mean I might need a specific example.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, I can tell you that I think I know
what you're saying. I almost I always have heard.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It as a cadence there is.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's the of the comedy of the generation before all
of us, where I'm so glad to be here folks
kind of thing. Yeah, you almost have the sense of like,
oh boy, I gotta do this, I gotta do that.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's almost like, put it this way, there's a big
difference between you and Sebastian Menescalcoll.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
That's true. He's I think he's very funny though, yes, yes,
but he's he's very.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Animated, let's say, performative.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Yeah, definitely, definitely. Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know.
I mean, he does like arenas, and it's just like,
I don't know how you get that loose with twenty
thousand people watching you, But.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But you know he's playing. He's playing that big, whether
it's an arena or a.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Night Yeah, So it fifty people built.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
For arenas Todd. Were you around for when or was
Ray already gone from the New York scene when you
got there?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
No, Ray Man, he I did like some horrible gigs
with him. He's used to give me a ride from
the cellar home sometimes, and I remember we listened to
what was the cranky anchor? No, no, what was the
two guys who did the crank calls like the original.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And then they animated with a puppet or something.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Now this is even before that. This was I forgot,
but the guys who did these crank calls. He had
a bootleg. He used to be a bootlegs, like an
Indian guy.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I think, oh, yeah, it was two guys, two guys names. Yeah,
I forget. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
But anyways, I remember he had that tape and like
before it was even public, and then I remember listening
to that in his car. But also we did a
gig at a a kosher restaurant. I don't remember where
it was where they basically, I don't think they told
anyone the comedy show is going to have happened.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So we're just.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Talking to a little stage. We're just doing little jokes
to these people are eating and talking like confused, But yeah,
but yeah, I did know Ryo pretty well and.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
A kosher restaurant, so nothing, but.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You you grew up in Florida, which may have led
directly to the air conditioning, uh hunk. But Florida, like
Phil Weirdly half the time when we do calling episodes
of people from Florida, like Phil is people, you know
those are his people. How did Florida shape you? Because
(13:18):
you came out of there like is it characters like
you came out with an unlikely you started out with comedians.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Well, I mean I I was born in New York
and I lived here till I was eight the state
of New York, but I moved when I was eight
years old to Florida. So what was your question?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
How did Florida shape you? You think you're.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Oh, I mean it was I remember Florida. I mean
it gets kind of a bad rap Florida, And anytime
something happens to Florida, be going in Florida. In Florida,
you could do that with every state. Yeah, exactly, I don't.
I guess I don't know how it shaped me. That's
where I started. While I start doing comedy down there,
(14:02):
in eighty seven, during the comedy boom of the eighties,
So it was really good time to start because you
would go on to do an open mic night and
they would have it like the same week as the
headliner show, so like the Tuesday the headliner and beyond,
but it would also be this open mic, so you
played a real audience, not like the way they do
in LA or New York.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So in that sense of shaving, people would see the
headliner and stay for the new guys.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I think they would do the new guys and then
the headliner, or then the middle act and then the headliner.
But yeah, but I mean I saw a lot of
I worked with a lot of the I work with
Kevin Nealon down there, or Steve Landsberg I worked with.
But so yeah, I was able to go worked pretty
quickly right away, with which I probably wasn't ready for.
I lived in Broward County like Tamarack and Karl Springs,
(14:52):
which are extremely exciting place to live. And then I
went to college in Gainesville at the University of Florida,
which I I liked.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Petty Petty territory.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
What did you what did you study? What did I study?
What was I supposed to study English. I just I
really picked it because I knew what I didn't want
to major, and I was like, I'm not gonna do
business and i'n do finance. English sounds I could be
cool one and but I'm yeah, I barely I got
out of like a two point one one GPA.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And And was was Stephen Wright an early at all?
And influence because when I think of what I love
about your comedy, he's one of the only guys in
terms of just energy that I can even compare you to.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
He said, yeah, yeah, I know. Oh I've heard that before.
But I don't know that he was an influence because
I think I'd already started. I don't actually, I don't
know when he was. I remember he had that legendary
Tonight Show appearance where they brought him back the same
week to do it again, and then he just he
skipped the whole club's thing and just went right to theaters.
(15:59):
But I don't, I don't. I mean, people do say
that they I remind him, remind them of him, but
I think stylistically we're not the same at all, but
we are low key.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm wearing a nice shirt tonight, I don't know if
you guys picked up on it. Anyone anyone recognize that Sharon, huh, wow,
this is the shirt I'm wearing on the home page
of my website. I'm sorry. I thought you guys were fans.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
What was there anyone who you do think of is
like made you want to do stand up? Were there
any comedians that really spoke to you?
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Well? When I was, uh, before I started doing open mics,
I was always a fan of like, like I'd watched
the MERV Griffin Show. Yeah, and they would have like
here's a hot young comedian, fresh nuke Face and those guys.
So I was aware of Letterman before he had any
sort of TV show, and so I liked him. And
I mean I went to see Andy Kaufman. I'm not
(17:09):
like him at all, but I went to that. I
appreciated that and liked it. It's Rickles when I was
down there. But yeah, I don't I'm trying to think
who I modeled. I don't. I mean, I'm trying not
to say that I modeled myself anyone after anyone but
Sebastian Mediscalco.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
But I think you like you. There's a little bit
of groud show in you really? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:34):
I my Marx brother's knowledge is not I'll just say
thank you. No, but he what do you mean? In
what sense?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I don't know, just this kind of dry, offhandedness, witty.
I did you When I was a kid? I had
the album he did when he was very old at
Carnegie Hall. Do you remember that album that Groucho marks
at Carnegie Hall?
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Oh grou Show?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No, I don't know that now, nineteen seventy two. I
want to say down.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
It was not stand up. He might have been sitting
down at that point.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Mike, you know the comedian Micro, Yeah, I know Micro,
he's my buddy. He would do old Groucho first. I'd
like to take a bow for Hapo and Chico.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That's his comedy.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
But it was I still loved him.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Did you ever play in that area you were sort
of growing up in? Did you ever play any of
the retirement communities or any of those Miami Beach like hotels.
I went my first shows. My parents took me to
see the Sandpipers come Saturday morning at the Oh my
God or Durral or some of those big hotels in Miami.
(18:48):
Did you get to do any.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Of that I mean I've played to my fair share
of seniors, but I've never done a specifically like a condo.
I mean, that's no offense anyone who does those, but
that is my worst night. Next offense, next to go,
next to go and get prison? That would be uh
do it? Being on the condo circuit would really make
me sad, by the way, even though it's.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You know, when you're starting out with a sitcom, you
can't get anought. It's very hard to get an audience.
And they bring people in from senior centers and prisons
and you have them together in the audience, and sometimes
you have to stop because one of the prisoners will say, hey,
let's kill that old lady.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Yeah yeah, I guess if a murder takes place in
the audience, you call cot on that.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
What your stand up special? I want people to know
that they can see it on YouTube? Actually right, it's
from yeah, yeah, Well we're pushing a couple of years now,
a year and a half. Maybe that's all right. Are
you working on a new one.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I'm trying, but I'm uh yeah, I am trying. But
I write slowly relatively speaking. I mean I write faster
than most A lot of people. But then there's people,
and I feel like Bill Burr puts a special out
every nine minutes or something like those things. I mean,
guys like that are He's great. He's also a little
more ver boats than I am, so he could tell
a story of something that happened to him that morning
(20:14):
and have a new ten minutes you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, he does weekly.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
It takes me a while. I mean, i'd basically write
on stage, which is maybe I think it's the best
way for me, but it's also slow.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
So you improvise something on stage and then you've taped
it and you listen back or how does it work?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah, I mean I have I do have a backclog
about five hundred sets I haven't listened to. It was.
It's interesting because when I started in Florida, it was
like three clubs. I've played mainly in Fort Lauderdale, West
Palm and North Miami Beach, and I'd lived in West Broward,
So I would come home from open mic in West
Palm and I would listen to the I wanted to
listen to. I was so excited to hear myself reform. Yeah,
(20:55):
my open mife said, but then you just get this point,
like that is the thing I want to listen to.
It's a tape of a set I just did, right,
But yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But it's so important because you never know what you forgotten.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Yeah, there's definitely been times where I'm like something came
out and I'll remember that and like I don't remember,
and then it didn't tape. But but you were asking
about carrat Top and and oh no, just.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Like that Florida.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, we really wanted to talk about Carrot Top.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Well, I started.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
I started with carrat Top and you did. Larry the
Cable Guy. Larry the Cable Guy gave me a ride
to I think maybe my first gig in Clearwater. We
wrote in his uh he was under the name Dan
Whitney then well which is his real name. But we
drove and uh yeah, it was like in his I
think he had a firebird or whatever, the one that
(21:48):
looks like a fire camaro, one of those two. And
I made fifty dollars at Ron Bennington's Comedy Club and Clearwater.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
But to do a guest spot, I worked with some
of those Southern comedians over the years a little bit.
And it's so interesting that like, yeah, like Larry the
cable guy. People are still surprised that was not him,
that that was a bit of a persona.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I thought it was a real cable.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
But you did work with Carrot Top early on.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Yeah, I knew him from like the open mic scene
and we're actually I posted somewhere online we're both extras
and Police Academy five, which was filmed in them. So
I found I got the clip and it's just like
you see his kind of redhead and then you see
my curly air.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Was we're both blown Carrot Top when he started, No.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I guess he was. He wasn't. He didn't quite. He
looked a little more low key than he does now,
But yeah, I guess so he I mean, he's a
guy I didn't see very often, but I would run
into him from time to time. And then I already
did a bunch of colleges and then he became huge.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And then you lost touch.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Yeah, I mean I was. I would love to go
see his show. Yeah, I haven't talked to him a
long time.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
You got to come to Vegas to see it.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
I think, Yeah, I was just in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
But yeah, so did he have work done on his
face to become more chardy.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I'm bad. I can't. I can't answer that. No, No,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No surgeon on to discuss that.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I think there's a lot of people I have questions.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
I mean, I have his medical records right here, but
I just.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Now Phil being the biggest Bruce Springsteen fan, we have
to ask about the wrestler. Uh, but I want to
ask about the wrestler because he did this song No No,
but I we didn't No No. But Mickey Rourke is
a big figure in our podcast. We've had Uh, we've
had Paul Riser on many times and Kevin Bacon, and
(23:48):
they both talk about the reunions of the cast of Diner,
of which Mickey is never a part. Like they they
both cannot be in touch with Mickey. Uh, what was
your experience in that movie?
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Are?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Are you, unlike Paul Reiser and Kevin Bacon able to
text Mickey right now and say how you doing?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
No? I mean when you go on set for various things,
there's some people who are just easy to talk to,
like I did Board to Death and Jason Schwartzman just
sits across from you eating the same food you're eating.
But Mickey Rourke, I just sort of had a gut
feeling that he wasn't gonna be like gregariously friendly. But
he was fine. I mean, he was just this bare minimum,
like I'm trying. My cat's attacking and that's why I'm
(24:27):
standing up. But yeah, he when I first went and
say hey, nice me and you, and that was it,
and he didn't go, oh, you're a stand up, but you.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Know he didn't.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
He was an intense dude. But it's funny. I went
to the Venice Film Festival and I was just wandering
on my own done because the wrestler was there, and
I found I just popped into a bar, which apparently
is a real happening bar, and he was sitting at
the table with a bunch of people from the movie.
And one of the people from the movie kind of
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recognized me, and I started sat down, started to sit
down and he looks me as a and then they
go he was in the movie with him. I yeah, yeah,
but I never I mean, I tend to have a
good eye for people I should leave alone. Like, I
don't think he would have snapped in me. I just
don't think he was looking to chat.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
As an actor, though, did you learn anything from watching
a guy who's that method and intense?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
I just remember doing those scenes and it seems so uh.
I don't know if this right wear but small it's like
he kind of you know, he's not yelling, I'm not yelling,
But then it's still Mickey Rourkean it's a movie about
a wrestler. But but I don't know what I learned
from him, and I don't know what he learned from me.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Probably well, if we get him on that will be
the first question.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
I saw him at a restaurant in La and I
was like, nah, I don't do it. Let's thinking of
going over to say Hans, and I was it wouldn't
be worth it.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Uh. When you get recognized on the street is obviously
you comedy fans. But are there any of these appearances
that most often get people you know, people stop you
on the street to say they loved you in something
or or is it is the flight of the concords?
Do that? I don't know in your life what tang
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they must?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Right, I get mobbed from pooty Tang. That gets me
in a lot of restaurants, certainly, But you know, I
don't always know, because they might just say you're hey,
you're really funny, or hey I love your work or
something like that, or that's not a good day. They
might say other things. But but yes, I think if
I had to guess, it would be Flight of the
Concords and Louie and and yeah, I've been on a
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few things.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
But are you still in touch with Luisy k.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
If i's run into him, I am in touch with him.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
But uh yeah, was he fun to work with?
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Louis?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Yeah, he was very relaxed and very Yeah, he was
very relaxed.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah he was great.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
He was great.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
He might still be great. I heard he has a
novel coming out.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
I thought I heard he has two novels coming out.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Wow, I'm sorry all that stuff happened. I'm sorry all
this when I see my heroes do something that's not heroic,
but it's okay. Can we love the art and not
the artist? Is that okay?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Uh? Yeah, yeah I think it is.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I mean, did that did all that ruin him for you?
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I mean, I don't't get too into it because it's right.
I just haven't really talked about it publicly, but I
think you know, it's it shook me up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, yes, well it's certainly not nice what he did
well In listening to a bunch of podcast appearances, You've
not a bunch. You haven't done that as many as
you would think, as brilliant as you are. I did
listen to a Chris Hardwick episode where at one point
there were like ten names discussed and like half of
them have gotten you know, lightly cancel it, And I
just thought it is amazing how in comedy I don't know, like, uh,
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it's amazing how many people? How many people?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I think Louis still sells out places.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Doesn't he got a massive toy is doing like he's
in India and yeah so.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
He I mean he was canceled in one by one
section of the population, but not by the other, right.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
And unlike, Yeah, I started out writing for shows and
I'm not a comedian as you can well tell, but
like Todd was someone who I'm a fan of and
was very nice in a yeah, very nice. Uh, Louis,
I have the interesting thing of I worked with him
on a different show and it was an amazing it
was like maybe it was like Odin Kirk. It was
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all brilliant guys, and I don't think Louis thought I
should be in the room, which is probably had he
had a good argument for that, and then I ran
it to him on the red carpet of the Emmys
when we were both nominated for something and he was
very nice and then ten seconds later got in trouble.
But enough about but.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Enough about him. Yes, I've got an album here because
we had a great guy here and did a did
a podcast with us and I was thrilled to meet
him and he signed this album that David bought for
me and it was Smokey Robinson just a few weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I don't know if you've seen the news.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Oh no, did something smoke your.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, I'll leave it to you to look it up.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Oh, I haven't heard listening.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Uh, but that was shocking to us.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Well it's also as the thing is it is, you
do not know what to say, because no, I could
say I've known him thirty years. I could say what
a great We.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Also don't know all the facts of the case, but
this has come out.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But yes, so yes, Uh.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
I hadn't heard about that. I will I'll google away.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yes, was doctor Katz I've loved doctor.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Oh yeah, that was that?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Something that was was I didn't know if you you
knew him well or if that was just a sort
of remember I.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
I did the show twice as a patient, and then
I just got this call. I think it was even
on a Saturday morning, which is not really the business hours,
but uh, and saying hey, and I guess it was
from Tom. So now Tom, what the fuck? Tom? I
forgot his name. I feel bad, but one of the
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producers on the show, and he said, hey, would you
want to do a regular character? And I was like, yeah,
of course, And then yeah, that's how that was an
easy That was an easy audition. I guess do you know?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I had Jonathan on Raymond. He was going to do
a part on Everybody Loves Raymond and this was one
of the one, I'm going to say one or two
times that we had to fire someone during the week.
He would admittedly say that he's not an actor, and
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yet I loved him so much I wanted him to
do this part. So I just gave him the part
without auditioning, which in hindsight, could have saved us a
little time and heartache. But he knew it wasn't going well.
He knew he wasn't right for this, and he kept
saying that to us as well, and it just wasn't
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going to work out. So, you know, you have four
days to put these shows together. On the second day,
I had to, you know, pull the trigger, which I
was agonizing over making this phone call to him. I
didn't want the agent to do it. I wanted to
call him myself. So I call him and with all
the pain in my heart, I got to say, I'm
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so sorry, it's just not working out. And he goes,
very dryly, he goes, could you excuse me one second?
And he puts the phone down and you hear in
the like he moved away from the mic.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You hear, oh.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
God, which was a performance ten times better than on
the show, And I just lost it. I was I
was so hysterical laughing. I couldn't believe he was doing
this incredible bit when he was fired for just for me.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
About him.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
I heard a story about him. He was driving with
a comic, a Boston comic, and the comic said, oh,
that's a nice burger king. So burger king. Jonathan's like,
I hope you don't die now because I don't want
that to be the last words. It's a nice.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
What a funny, funny, but I loved Do you know
who replaced him in that role? Do you know?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I don't remember, because do you no?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
But I always think about it in terms of think
how different history and America would be, possibly the last
election if Ray had not been fired Ray Romano from
news radio exactly, and that part going to Joe Rogan's
think how different history would be? Now, an actor of
your stature, have you I'm going to assume no, But
have you ever been fired from any part in anything?
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Not from apart? The only time I can think I
got fired was I opened for Paul Mooney at Caroline's.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Let's let's just say they weren't buying what I was selling.
And there was a few shows and then the bugger
came up to she was todd, Yeah, I know, what
was it like?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Really?
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I kind of I knew I was going to get
canned or it wasn't surprising what she was about to say.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
And did it impact you? Did it? Did it did
you feel terrible? Or did you say, show that's fine?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Uh? I think because I knew it wasn't and also
it wasn't fun for me if I'm I mean, that's
not fun to just night after night dread doing something
that's supposed to be fun. So I think I was
kind of like, yeah, I get it, and I think
I had a good I think I had a good
attitude about that.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Aude.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Every time I've been fired, and it's been plenty, I
I always felt took it very personally.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
That Slash, that's me, that's Slash. Slash CANADMA show in
London came straight from the airport. HI have friends I've
known twenty years who asked to be on my guest
list and don't show up. Slash is like we're going
to clear customs and head right over.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
All.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Right, have you ever open for musicians? One of the
things that I grew up in New York.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Ahead of you, and I always loved and I still
to day. I don't understand why more people don't do that.
I don't really want to see a band before a
band I want to see. I'd like to laugh. But
who have you opened for over the.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Years, Well, some of them. I'm sort of friendly with
the bands, like they might be giants. I've opened for
them Amy amy Man and Amymen Michael laying together.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Amy's sins.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
I opened for uh. I mean I once opened just
randomly for Grover Washington Junior.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Is just the two of you, just the two of us?
Speaker 6 (35:09):
I guess yeah. I mean it's the thing where it's
at the Valley Forge Music Center, which I think spun around.
It was a revolving stage, so that was one where
like that wasn't like a connection. There was just an
agent asked me, and that was challenging. But I think
the audience this one was like polite and unbombing kind
of situations and the stage is spinning. Is all those
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eight different sets of congas on stage and didn't meet them?
But I mean who else today? I opened for other people.
I've done a lot of festivals.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Isn't it hard to be comic opening for a band?
Don't people start like going there?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Yeah? Yeah, I think it. I'm very selective about who
I I'm just not gonna do like a random tour
with someone, but you need to, yeah, or I often
have the act introduce me, because then that's it's not like, hey,
we just threw this guy up here. He's like, no,
this is our friend.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I think about it.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
La Tango of course, a bunch of shows with Yela Tango.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
My first concert, my dad and my parents took me
to a Carnegie Hall was a great country bluegrasses group
called Nigriny Dirt Band, but the opening act was Steve
Martin a week before he became famous, and that, wow,
forever changed. I guess that's like the template of what
a concert should be for me. I always want Steve
Martin to open up.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
He kind of has a hybrid because he plays music.
But yes, I heard about a good story. But you
know Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Richmond, yes, very well.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Someone told me that he had a comic open for
him somewhere and they were audience was brutal to the comic.
And then when he came out, he goes, for those
of you who are roots to my opening act tonight,
I'm not playing for you, and then started the shows like,
oh man, that's a fun that's a balls movement.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Wow. Yeah, I saw him last year and still great,
like unbelievable and funny like which I don't know if
you're a fan at all. We've both worked in different
ways with Randy Newman over the years. Like Randy Newman
once said, to me, I'm not sure youmor belongs in music.
Like it may have been a bad idea for me
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all those years ago. So but like I actually love
the blend. You know, well, he was the best at it.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
I've been on two flights with him. Yeah, one from
Little Rock and one from New York Tela, which is
less surprising.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I loved him. Yeah, he's great. I loved working with him.
I thought he was terrific and really, you know again,
he's super funny.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah did you fly? Did you fly near him to
talk to him? Or no?
Speaker 6 (37:51):
I don't know if we were. I know what you're asking.
Was I in first class? No, it was.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I was not asking that. I could have asked.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
That we were sitting near him. I got no.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I meant like, did you would you? Are you the
kind of person who would say introduce yourself and say something?
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Almost never? I mean one of my favorite uh celebrity
encounters was like years ago, was walking through these village
and I saw Joe Strummer with a couple of people
walking and I was like, I will freaked out a
little bit, and I kind of just made eye contact
with him and I just him a nod. He goes hello,
and that was it, and I was like, that's kind
of a that's probably good for him and me. You know,
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he's not enough to stop the conversation. No, No, he
was very He wasn't punk when he said high me.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So what about you and your travels?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Who was the most incredible person that went to you
and said, Hi, I'm a fan?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Oh god, uh, I love just off the top of
my head. When I was backstage at the Grammy rehearsals,
thanks to you. Uh, Bonnie Rait passed me and went, hey,
did somebody feed you?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
That's pretty like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Why and she goes, love your show and I'm like, what, Yes,
that was a good one.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
That.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, I'm a as Todd you may have picked up
on I'm a name dropper of some Uh. I can
do that. But one thing I'm not is I don't
talk to people. Like if I'm sitting with someone on
a plane, I'm very shy, like I don't want to
bother them. But like, the greatest time it worked out
well was I flew next to Trevor Noah years ago,
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and I didn't want to bother him because I'd already
asked him to be a presenter at the Grammys that year,
and he said I'd heard he couldn't do it. But
eventually he started talking to me because I was watching
on my screen a football game, and that ended up
with him hosting the Grammys the last like pretty good
five years. So that was that was a good. Now
I'm going to try to be more serve. So if
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I'm on a plane next to you, I will bother you.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
Now I believe it, Todd.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But what are you working on now? You're riding slowly?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Are you tour?
Speaker 6 (40:02):
I'm touring, yeah, a lot, and I'm going to Europe
in a few days.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Oh where are you going? I just got back. I
toured Europe. Oh yeah I did, Yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I don't do stand up, but I do like an
evening with kind of thing. Oh really, which is the
lazy man's stand up?
Speaker 6 (40:17):
I guess it's like an all Q and A thing.
That's the biggest scam that you could do?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Is he just that you heard it here first? My
whole career is I don't know if you've seen what
I do, but that's uh, it seems to be quite
the racket.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
I'm going to Dublin, London, Oh, Barcelona, Lisbon and Madrid.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Now let me ask you this. Did you build in
a little time off so you can enjoy Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:46):
Yeah, I do the opposite of the Mike Watt if
you ain't playing your paying situation. Like I take a
day off because I just don't want to go to
like a country or a city I've never been to
and like do a show and then go to bed.
I mean one of at least a day dinner or something.
But for the most part, I've got days off. It's
like one those moment where I have it's back to back.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
But well, now that we're friends, you I want you
to uh uh text me these things. And and I'm
gonna give you a few places to eat if you're interested.
Oh yeah, because that's the number one thing I'm looking
for when I go. But man, you're gonna have fun.
This is coming up soon.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Yeah, I'm leaving Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Wow. And and are you touring with another comic?
Speaker 6 (41:33):
With another Now I'm touring by myself. I mean, there's
gonna be comics opening for me. And I know some
people in comics in London.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
And oh but you do you don't look like you're
a big food eater. But you do like food. You're
a big Are you a foodie?
Speaker 6 (41:49):
I'm like a picky foodie. I mean, I'm not like
I'm not like someone just you know, I'll eat anything.
I know there's people again jealous of them, but there's
a lot of stuff I won't eat.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 6 (42:06):
What's my favorite thing to not eat? I love Asian food,
and it's all gonna be the most obviously is Asian
food Italian food. Have you ever had Japanese curry? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Great?
Speaker 6 (42:20):
Yeah, I love that, burgers, chicken fingers. So you're fine,
get worse I have. Yeah. I was about to say
to Rito's.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
This sounds like a comedian's diet. But I really will
give you a few places to now that I know
your palace, Okay.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
And I'm also was you asking me what else I'm doing.
I'm also working on a I have a screenplay. Oh,
I'll text you that as well.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
It's not pooty Tang too, is it.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
No? I wish that would be a surefire, but there
is the man.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Will you do comedy clubs in Europe or do you
do just any kind of rock club kind of place.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
I mean they all are. They're like pubs that have
some of the room in the back. That's one of them.
That's a couple of them probably, And then there's like
a Madrid there's a Madrid Comedy Lab, which I guess
like I think of like little black box. They're not huge,
but we are adding some shows that must be huge.
In Lisbon.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Oh, Lisbon is so great. Yeah, you can watch that
episode if you want and see some of the place
we eat. Do you eat seafood at all?
Speaker 6 (43:38):
Yeah? I do?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Ramiro. I want you to go to Ramiro in Lisbon.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I can co sign on that when I went there recently.
Oh my god, yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Right Ramiro? Yeah, okay, And that's seafood.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, some of the best I've ever had in my life.
And here's the great thing about it. Dessert comes and
it's a steak sandwich. Are you sus serious?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
That is their tradition.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
It's phenomenal steak sandwich.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
Yep, Oh my god. What's it got on it? That's
crucial for me?
Speaker 1 (44:13):
A little bit of sauce of some kind. But if
you didn't want the sauce, you wouldn't have to have it.
But the steak itself is excellent. You can't believe, like
you have all these good sea creatures of the world,
and they're all delicious, a lot of stuff that I
never had before or never saw before, even and you're
eating all the seafood and subconsciously you don't even realize,
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but you know it would be great back now a
steak sandwich, and then it comes.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
It's a surfing turf.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
Did they have dessert after that? Though, like a more tradition.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
You're so satisfied you don't even care. I'll go out
and get an ice cream after if you want. I
think they might have dessert. But I was so happy.
You're just so thrilled that a steak sandwich came.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I'm always thrilled. I'm hoping one right now. Yeah. I
also want to say that I very much feel connected
to you because I am the guy who doesn't give
a shit about cars. I actually don't even drink coffee,
and but I did watch comedians and cars getting coffee,
and I did think it was amazing that I felt
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like some spiritual connection, because like, I don't understand when
people talk about sports cars. I just don't it seems odd.
I wonder do people bring that up ever to you
that that appearance.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
Yeah, I mean, that's very polarizing appearance on his shows.
There's a lot of people. I got a lot of
hate for that hate. Yeah. Why hey, I've been saying
that for years. But I mean I think he The
angle that Jerry went with, which I sort of get,
was he just made it look like I didn't say
anything the whole trip. Oh yeah, I mean it's all
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in the editing, of course, but so some people like,
you're the worst case. But then I was in New
Orleans eating what's that place that everyone eats at in
New Orleans or something? Oh coushon, Yeah, kuh yeah, and
I was eaten by myself and this waitress from the
cross of the restaurant b lines. That was my favorite
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episode of Comedians and Cars.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
I was like, so that you don't talk and he
just talks, That's that's very odd.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
I mean, I think that's I think, I mean, people
don't understand that, Like if he talks to Jay Leno,
they've been up to dinner four thousand times. But that's
the first time I knew Jerry to say, I to
him if I ran into him. But I'd never hug
out with him, And I mean, maybe I should I've
only watched it once. Maybe I should watch it again.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Maybe I got to see what they did to you.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
He was in New York when you got there. Was
he sort of already the sort of I was in
New York and I remember the era of Chris Rock
sort of starting out his early stuff. Uh, Seinfeld was
already a big deal. Ray was someone I would see.
Were they already when you got to New York? Who
were the people who were sort of leading the way
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you got there?
Speaker 6 (47:14):
I mean all those guys you just mentioned and jon Stewart.
This a guy named Jonathan Solomon who haven't heard from
in a long time. He was one of the big guns.
And Ray, Yeah, and there were people I got Oh
and when and.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
When we met? You know those gigs where you're brought
in to write for other people, How what was that
experience like for you? Because you're you're a great joke writer.
But is it fun or not fun to write for
a different voice?
Speaker 6 (47:49):
Oh? It was fun. It was just a little frustrating
on those shows. Because you've watched the VMA, You're like,
I don't think anyone got anything on But there was
a lot of like over working, like pretending to work.
I think those are like, hey, Tam, we need twenty
banters between kid Rock and Mirror Sorvino Okay, and then
they go then they changed like kid Rock can't make it,
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said we need thirty more, and I was just like,
I think we're overthinking this guy.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's our Joel Gallon I think must have
been producing back then. I don't know if you remember
that name.
Speaker 6 (48:22):
But yeah, I think it was a great believer.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
See we worked on like the America Attribute to Heroes
telethon with Joel. That was not a lot of jokes,
laughed Ryan.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Yeah, not the nine to eleven telephons.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
When there was a show like that, there would be
he would have want five thousand pages of Mirror Sorvino,
Kid Rock Gold to choose from.
Speaker 6 (48:43):
Yeah, it's uh. I remember my favorite part about writing
on those shows was that they you got to present
the script to the celebrity. So I uh I remember
once I they gave me a script that the one
that I didn't even write an intro or something, and
they go, can you go get this to Lenny Kravitz
and Zelle? So I go up there and and them
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in the dressing room whatever, and she's like, they're both nice,
but she's like this script makes him seem stupid and
me stupider. I'm like, well, don't do it. Then I
didn't even write.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
This, but Yousell bunched and said that to you.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I don't remember the script.
You may have been completed, right, But but there was.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Also I guess when you look like that, you can
say anything.
Speaker 6 (49:26):
Yeah. Yeah, but there was also I remember Beck. They
had to give something for Beck and he's like, oh,
I kind of because I kind of just want to
wing in. I was like, yeah, that's that's probably the
best way to do it. And then but his assistant
referred to me as the little writer guy. Oh god,
It's like, fucking.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Well, you're the best writer guy that we know. Thank you,
Thank you, Todd. Is there anything else you'd like to
plug or tell people where to mind you online?
Speaker 6 (50:02):
Yeah? I mean on Instagram, I'm Todd Berry on I'm
not gonna call it X on Twitter Todd Berry Todd
Berry dot com. I think you see the.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Pattern, Todd. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 6 (50:18):
I have a lot of tour dates and we'll get.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
You my info so we can stay in touch and.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
Okay, that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Where Yeah, Todd, tell me the cities again, just because, uh,
there's some great ones in there.
Speaker 6 (50:29):
You're going where London, Dublin? Oh you mean when, right?
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Right?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
When you're going?
Speaker 6 (50:33):
Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to Doublin London, Madrid,
Barcelona and Lisbon.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
What a great, great lineup. That's great. You might run
into Springsteen when you're over there. He's over there now too.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Right, your old wrestler for him. That's right.
Speaker 6 (50:50):
I've never met Springsteen that he's saying the same thing, right,
Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 8 (50:57):
Naked Lunch is a podcast by Phil Rosenthal and David Wilde.
Theme song and music by Brad Paisley, produced by Will
Sterling and Ryan Tillotson, with video editing by Daniel Ferrara
and motion graphics by Ali Ahmed. Executive produced by Phil Rosenthal,
David Wilde, and our consulting journalist is Pamela Chellan. Thanks
for listening to Naked Lunch, a Lucky Bastard's.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Production, Todd, Phil, Why should people tune into Naked Lunch
(51:51):
this week?
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Todd? That's it, that's all you got.
Speaker 6 (51:56):
Oh, I thought you were asking him.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
No, I like this. This is a very good This
reminds me of your comedians in Cars episode where I
talk you don't say anything. I think people should watch
because Todd's one of the funniest comedians in the world.
And he's a sweetheart too.
Speaker 6 (52:13):
Thank you. Uh you should watch because I you know,
I enjoyed doing this. Podcast would have gone another twenty
minutes easy, but he didn't want to push it to
do today. But uh yeah, I talk about food, which
is one of my favorite things to talk about. So
you'll hear me at my most passionate and hilarious.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
God Barry
David phil who's up today on Naked Lunch.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
A comedian who I worked with once many years ago,
and will find out if he hated or liked me.
But he's a genius comedian.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
He's one of my favorites. Ladies and gentlemen, here is
Todd Barry.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Let's build the beans to the fat, food for thought,
jokes on taip, talking with our mouthsful, having fun, the
peace of cake and humble pies, serving up slice live.
Leave the dressing on the side. It's Naked Lunch.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Clothing optional.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I hated Florida. The only good thing about Florida great
air conditioning. Everywhere I meet people every year summer in
New York would tell me they don't like air conditioning.
They're like, I don't like air conditioning.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
It's not natural.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I don't like it. And I guess I see their point,
because what is air conditioning. It's just a definite solution
to a problem. It's hot in here. Click now it's
cool in here. Oh, you're right, this does suck.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Uh, Todd, do you remember that we we worked together.
It's so long ago.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
I believe it was the VMA's with Ben Stiller hosting.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I think it was Chris Rock hosting. Is that possible? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:46):
But I was on Chris Rock's private little writing team there,
oh you were, yeah, which meant I got to go
to McDonald's and go to the movies.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I remember working on the Chris Rock episode of or
the Chris Rock vm A so much because he told
the meanest, funniest joke I ever heard at an award show,
which was Good Charlotte, the band that was sort of like,
you know, uh, punky and poppy. They played and as
soon as they finished the last chord, he walked out
(02:21):
and said, good Charlotte more like Shitty Green Day. And
I happen to be standing next to them when they
walked off stage, and they just sort of the elation
of playing their their punky poppy music was immediately deflated
and they started twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's amazing. You know he could get slapped for something
like that.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Yeah, you remember his intro for Britney Spears. No, He's like,
you guys ready for some good lip syncing? Wow?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Very mean.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Now, Todd, have you met ever Phil Rosenthal as far
as you know, No.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
But I I did have an exchange with you on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
We did what did we say, yeah it was.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
It was hostile. No, it wasn't wrong. It was I
said that I just went to a restaurant in Bangkok
that you recommended something. I forgot what I was, and
then you said which one was it? And I told
you and go, okay, we can be friends something like that.
That's a paraphrase.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's nice. Now let's figure out which one it was.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Do you think it was?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Which one?
Speaker 6 (03:27):
I think it was called Cafe Air.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
It wasn't the crab omelet from j FI?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Was it?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Na? That wouldn't be me.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Why wouldn't it be you? You don't like great things?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Oh shit, Oh that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
This is now a Godzilla movie.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
For those of you listening only, please go to YouTube
just so you can see what just happened.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I know that. That's there's your little pull quote or
whatever they call it, not pull.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But the highlight reel crazy.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Was it a crab omelet? Yeah? I'm not a big
egg guy.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Oh okay, that's why it's not here.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But you are. I discovered by listening to a bunch
of podcasts you've been on. You are a food lover
and a traveling A traveling man so I.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Feel like, why didn't he travel here to eat with us?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Not like it's like la, He's like, where are you top?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I'm in New York City.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh that's why. All right, we'll have to New York then,
I'd love to That's great. What part of town are
you in?
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I live in the village, nice sort of Union Square area.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And that's the famous cat from your stand up.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's she's. Uh, she's right here, ready to
work whenever you need her.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You're one of the few comics I know that have
a cat hunk.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
I did my last Tonight show I did.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It was fantastic. I love that you do the three
or four things about the cat and then you go
to leon It's gonna be all catch up. You're a
great comedian. I love you. I think you're just fantastic.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
Oh, thank you really, And I like your show and
your shows.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
What you can compliment David if you want, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I love Todd because we worked together and he made
me laugh just hearing everything he had come up with.
But I then got your first record, I think, or
one of the early records.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Oh you wrote a review of it, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I think I did. I loved I loved it, and
I think my wife and I to this day. Every
time it's the time of year when you turn on
your air conditioning, which is sort of now in LA.
Recently when it was ninety five degrees for Mother's Day,
we always do your air conditioning joke, which I don't
know is that your Is that like your stairway to heaven?
(05:53):
Or are we the only ones who were obsessed with
that joke?
Speaker 6 (05:56):
That's my freebirg.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, can I hear it? I don't know it.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I mean it's something like I met people who don't
like air conditioning. I don't know what. I can see
why they went because what is air conditioning a definite
solution to a problem. It's like it's hot in here, now,
it's cold in here. I forgot the rest of it.
I haven't done that choking thirty years.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Or whatever well that was, I think, yeah, ever ever
since then, I feel we have a bond, but I
don't know that. Yeah, I didn't know that you remembered me.
But I'm so glad that you're.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You have so much in common. You both like air conditioning,
we both exact air condition based relationship. How old is
the cat?
Speaker 6 (06:40):
She's seven? Oh? Nice, yeah, yeah, do you have one?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I did when I was younger.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Uh, we had a cat.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
My parents didn't want pets because we were enough, and
we found a cat and it took every day to
get our dad to okay it. The whole neighborhood of
kids came around and begged my dad to let us
keep this cat. It was like a real investment in
the cat. And years go by, six, seven, eight years,
(07:17):
I think, and the cat gets sick and they take
it to the vet. My mom takes it to the vet,
and we're having dinner that night, and so what's going on. Well,
she wanted to make the announcement at the dinner table
with all of us, with my brother.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Me and my dad.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The cat's very sick, but the vet said there is
an operation that could work. And my father asked how
much is it? And my mom said two thousand dollars
and my dad said, and how much is it to
put the cat to sleep? And she said thirty five
dollars And my dad looked at my brother and I
(07:57):
and said, say goodbye to the cat.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Oh, my god, and brutal.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So now flash forward to forty years later, at least
forty years, maybe fifty years, my dad's sick in the
hospital and the doctor says to my brother and I
there is something we could do that may work and
may not work. And I couldn't help it. But I
(08:26):
asked the doctor how much is that operation? And he said, well,
I'm sure insurance will take care of it, but you know,
the deductible could be, you know, several thousand dollars. And
I looked at my brother and went and said, goodbye
to your father.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
That's brutal.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, it was just a joke.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I know that Todd Barry thinks that jokes rough.
You're reversing parts like. The reason I desperately always wanted
you on this podcast beyond thinking you're so funny, is
that I think of you and Phil as having utterly
different energies like you have. I don't know if it's
you self identify as dark or sardonic or whatever. And
(09:07):
Phil goes around the world and he's like people bringing
them their his puppies.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I hug people.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
He hugged people.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But I tell me, if you believe in this, for
you to be friends with somebody, I always say, you
got to have a sense of humor that that that's
the number one thing, right, right, But it doesn't have
to be my sense of humor. You can appreciate other
senses of humor, right.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Oh. Yeah. I have friends who I act differently like.
I have friends who I'm almost never funny around. Yeah,
And then I have friends where it's just we insult
each other ninety five percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
And then there's friends that have get I might get
silly around, but I have noticed that I don't. I
don't have the same personality for everyone. But you are
a fraud, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But you're no. But your your stand up is dry
and great.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Uh, there's a thing you do in transition. It's almost
as if you're ticking off the list of things that
I that you have to cover m and I feel
it's a great It's kind of a misleading setup, is that. Well,
there's that I'm saying. In your transitions you go like
(10:16):
a bout a cat the other day, you know, like
this kind of thing where it's just like, here's something
else I got to talk about. That's and and it
misleads you into thinking, uh, the rest of it will
be that kind of reading off a list, but it's not.
It's everything then is invested, and I think it's fantastic.
(10:37):
Does that make sense that you know what I'm talking
about this kind of mislead?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I mean I might need a specific example.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, I can tell you that I think I know
what you're saying. I almost I always have heard.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It as a cadence there is.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's the of the comedy of the generation before all
of us, where I'm so glad to be here folks
kind of thing. Yeah, you almost have the sense of like,
oh boy, I gotta do this, I gotta do that.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's almost like, put it this way, there's a big
difference between you and Sebastian Menescalcoll.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
That's true. He's I think he's very funny though, yes, yes,
but he's he's very.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Animated, let's say, performative.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Yeah, definitely, definitely. Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know.
I mean, he does like arenas, and it's just like,
I don't know how you get that loose with twenty
thousand people watching you, But.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But you know he's playing. He's playing that big, whether
it's an arena or a.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Night Yeah, So it fifty people built.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
For arenas Todd. Were you around for when or was
Ray already gone from the New York scene when you
got there?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
No, Ray Man, he I did like some horrible gigs
with him. He's used to give me a ride from
the cellar home sometimes, and I remember we listened to
what was the cranky anchor? No, no, what was the
two guys who did the crank calls like the original.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And then they animated with a puppet or something.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Now this is even before that. This was I forgot,
but the guys who did these crank calls. He had
a bootleg. He used to be a bootlegs, like an
Indian guy.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I think, oh, yeah, it was two guys, two guys names. Yeah,
I forget. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
But anyways, I remember he had that tape and like
before it was even public, and then I remember listening
to that in his car. But also we did a
gig at a a kosher restaurant. I don't remember where
it was where they basically, I don't think they told
anyone the comedy show is going to have happened.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So we're just.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Talking to a little stage. We're just doing little jokes
to these people are eating and talking like confused, But yeah,
but yeah, I did know Ryo pretty well and.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
A kosher restaurant, so nothing, but.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You you grew up in Florida, which may have led
directly to the air conditioning, uh hunk. But Florida, like
Phil Weirdly half the time when we do calling episodes
of people from Florida, like Phil is people, you know
those are his people. How did Florida shape you? Because
(13:18):
you came out of there like is it characters like
you came out with an unlikely you started out with comedians.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Well, I mean I I was born in New York
and I lived here till I was eight the state
of New York, but I moved when I was eight
years old to Florida. So what was your question?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
How did Florida shape you? You think you're.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Oh, I mean it was I remember Florida. I mean
it gets kind of a bad rap Florida, And anytime
something happens to Florida, be going in Florida. In Florida,
you could do that with every state. Yeah, exactly, I don't.
I guess I don't know how it shaped me. That's
where I started. While I start doing comedy down there,
(14:02):
in eighty seven, during the comedy boom of the eighties,
So it was really good time to start because you
would go on to do an open mic night and
they would have it like the same week as the
headliner show, so like the Tuesday the headliner and beyond,
but it would also be this open mic, so you
played a real audience, not like the way they do
in LA or New York.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So in that sense of shaving, people would see the
headliner and stay for the new guys.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I think they would do the new guys and then
the headliner, or then the middle act and then the headliner.
But yeah, but I mean I saw a lot of
I worked with a lot of the I work with
Kevin Nealon down there, or Steve Landsberg I worked with.
But so yeah, I was able to go worked pretty
quickly right away, with which I probably wasn't ready for.
I lived in Broward County like Tamarack and Karl Springs,
(14:52):
which are extremely exciting place to live. And then I
went to college in Gainesville at the University of Florida,
which I I liked.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Petty Petty territory.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
What did you what did you study? What did I study?
What was I supposed to study English. I just I
really picked it because I knew what I didn't want
to major, and I was like, I'm not gonna do
business and i'n do finance. English sounds I could be
cool one and but I'm yeah, I barely I got
out of like a two point one one GPA.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And And was was Stephen Wright an early at all?
And influence because when I think of what I love
about your comedy, he's one of the only guys in
terms of just energy that I can even compare you to.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
He said, yeah, yeah, I know. Oh I've heard that before.
But I don't know that he was an influence because
I think I'd already started. I don't actually, I don't
know when he was. I remember he had that legendary
Tonight Show appearance where they brought him back the same
week to do it again, and then he just he
skipped the whole club's thing and just went right to theaters.
(15:59):
But I don't, I don't. I mean, people do say
that they I remind him, remind them of him, but
I think stylistically we're not the same at all, but
we are low key.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm wearing a nice shirt tonight, I don't know if
you guys picked up on it. Anyone anyone recognize that Sharon, huh, wow,
this is the shirt I'm wearing on the home page
of my website. I'm sorry. I thought you guys were fans.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
What was there anyone who you do think of is
like made you want to do stand up? Were there
any comedians that really spoke to you?
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Well? When I was, uh, before I started doing open mics,
I was always a fan of like, like I'd watched
the MERV Griffin Show. Yeah, and they would have like
here's a hot young comedian, fresh nuke Face and those guys.
So I was aware of Letterman before he had any
sort of TV show, and so I liked him. And
I mean I went to see Andy Kaufman. I'm not
(17:09):
like him at all, but I went to that. I
appreciated that and liked it. It's Rickles when I was
down there. But yeah, I don't I'm trying to think
who I modeled. I don't. I mean, I'm trying not
to say that I modeled myself anyone after anyone but
Sebastian Mediscalco.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
But I think you like you. There's a little bit
of groud show in you really? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:34):
I my Marx brother's knowledge is not I'll just say
thank you. No, but he what do you mean? In
what sense?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I don't know, just this kind of dry, offhandedness, witty.
I did you When I was a kid? I had
the album he did when he was very old at
Carnegie Hall. Do you remember that album that Groucho marks
at Carnegie Hall?
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Oh grou Show?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No, I don't know that now, nineteen seventy two. I
want to say down.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
It was not stand up. He might have been sitting
down at that point.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Mike, you know the comedian Micro, Yeah, I know Micro,
he's my buddy. He would do old Groucho first. I'd
like to take a bow for Hapo and Chico.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
That's his comedy.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
But it was I still loved him.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Did you ever play in that area you were sort
of growing up in? Did you ever play any of
the retirement communities or any of those Miami Beach like hotels.
I went my first shows. My parents took me to
see the Sandpipers come Saturday morning at the Oh my
God or Durral or some of those big hotels in Miami.
(18:48):
Did you get to do any.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Of that I mean I've played to my fair share
of seniors, but I've never done a specifically like a condo.
I mean, that's no offense anyone who does those, but
that is my worst night. Next offense, next to go,
next to go and get prison? That would be uh
do it? Being on the condo circuit would really make
me sad, by the way, even though it's.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You know, when you're starting out with a sitcom, you
can't get anought. It's very hard to get an audience.
And they bring people in from senior centers and prisons
and you have them together in the audience, and sometimes
you have to stop because one of the prisoners will say, hey,
let's kill that old lady.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Yeah yeah, I guess if a murder takes place in
the audience, you call cot on that.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
What your stand up special? I want people to know
that they can see it on YouTube? Actually right, it's
from yeah, yeah, Well we're pushing a couple of years now,
a year and a half. Maybe that's all right. Are
you working on a new one.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I'm trying, but I'm uh yeah, I am trying. But
I write slowly relatively speaking. I mean I write faster
than most A lot of people. But then there's people,
and I feel like Bill Burr puts a special out
every nine minutes or something like those things. I mean,
guys like that are He's great. He's also a little
more ver boats than I am, so he could tell
a story of something that happened to him that morning
(20:14):
and have a new ten minutes you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, he does weekly.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
It takes me a while. I mean, i'd basically write
on stage, which is maybe I think it's the best
way for me, but it's also slow.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
So you improvise something on stage and then you've taped
it and you listen back or how does it work?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah, I mean I have I do have a backclog
about five hundred sets I haven't listened to. It was.
It's interesting because when I started in Florida, it was
like three clubs. I've played mainly in Fort Lauderdale, West
Palm and North Miami Beach, and I'd lived in West Broward,
So I would come home from open mic in West
Palm and I would listen to the I wanted to
listen to. I was so excited to hear myself reform. Yeah,
(20:55):
my open mife said, but then you just get this point,
like that is the thing I want to listen to.
It's a tape of a set I just did, right,
But yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But it's so important because you never know what you forgotten.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Yeah, there's definitely been times where I'm like something came
out and I'll remember that and like I don't remember,
and then it didn't tape. But but you were asking
about carrat Top and and oh no, just.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Like that Florida.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, we really wanted to talk about Carrot Top.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Well, I started.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
I started with carrat Top and you did. Larry the
Cable Guy. Larry the Cable Guy gave me a ride
to I think maybe my first gig in Clearwater. We
wrote in his uh he was under the name Dan
Whitney then well which is his real name. But we
drove and uh yeah, it was like in his I
think he had a firebird or whatever, the one that
(21:48):
looks like a fire camaro, one of those two. And
I made fifty dollars at Ron Bennington's Comedy Club and Clearwater.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
But to do a guest spot, I worked with some
of those Southern comedians over the years a little bit.
And it's so interesting that like, yeah, like Larry the
cable guy. People are still surprised that was not him,
that that was a bit of a persona.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I thought it was a real cable.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
But you did work with Carrot Top early on.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Yeah, I knew him from like the open mic scene
and we're actually I posted somewhere online we're both extras
and Police Academy five, which was filmed in them. So
I found I got the clip and it's just like
you see his kind of redhead and then you see
my curly air.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Was we're both blown Carrot Top when he started, No.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I guess he was. He wasn't. He didn't quite. He
looked a little more low key than he does now,
But yeah, I guess so he I mean, he's a
guy I didn't see very often, but I would run
into him from time to time. And then I already
did a bunch of colleges and then he became huge.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And then you lost touch.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Yeah, I mean I was. I would love to go
see his show. Yeah, I haven't talked to him a
long time.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
You got to come to Vegas to see it.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
I think, Yeah, I was just in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
But yeah, so did he have work done on his
face to become more chardy.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I'm bad. I can't. I can't answer that. No, No,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No surgeon on to discuss that.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I think there's a lot of people I have questions.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
I mean, I have his medical records right here, but
I just.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Now Phil being the biggest Bruce Springsteen fan, we have
to ask about the wrestler. Uh, but I want to
ask about the wrestler because he did this song No No,
but I we didn't No No. But Mickey Rourke is
a big figure in our podcast. We've had Uh, we've
had Paul Riser on many times and Kevin Bacon, and
(23:48):
they both talk about the reunions of the cast of Diner,
of which Mickey is never a part. Like they they
both cannot be in touch with Mickey. Uh, what was
your experience in that movie?
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Are?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Are you, unlike Paul Reiser and Kevin Bacon able to
text Mickey right now and say how you doing?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
No? I mean when you go on set for various things,
there's some people who are just easy to talk to,
like I did Board to Death and Jason Schwartzman just
sits across from you eating the same food you're eating.
But Mickey Rourke, I just sort of had a gut
feeling that he wasn't gonna be like gregariously friendly. But
he was fine. I mean, he was just this bare minimum,
like I'm trying. My cat's attacking and that's why I'm
(24:27):
standing up. But yeah, he when I first went and
say hey, nice me and you, and that was it,
and he didn't go, oh, you're a stand up, but you.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Know he didn't.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
He was an intense dude. But it's funny. I went
to the Venice Film Festival and I was just wandering
on my own done because the wrestler was there, and
I found I just popped into a bar, which apparently
is a real happening bar, and he was sitting at
the table with a bunch of people from the movie.
And one of the people from the movie kind of
(24:57):
recognized me, and I started sat down, started to sit
down and he looks me as a and then they
go he was in the movie with him. I yeah, yeah,
but I never I mean, I tend to have a
good eye for people I should leave alone. Like, I
don't think he would have snapped in me. I just
don't think he was looking to chat.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
As an actor, though, did you learn anything from watching
a guy who's that method and intense?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
I just remember doing those scenes and it seems so uh.
I don't know if this right wear but small it's like
he kind of you know, he's not yelling, I'm not yelling,
But then it's still Mickey Rourkean it's a movie about
a wrestler. But but I don't know what I learned
from him, and I don't know what he learned from me.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Probably well, if we get him on that will be
the first question.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
I saw him at a restaurant in La and I
was like, nah, I don't do it. Let's thinking of
going over to say Hans, and I was it wouldn't
be worth it.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Uh. When you get recognized on the street is obviously
you comedy fans. But are there any of these appearances
that most often get people you know, people stop you
on the street to say they loved you in something
or or is it is the flight of the concords?
Do that? I don't know in your life what tang
(26:21):
they must?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Right, I get mobbed from pooty Tang. That gets me
in a lot of restaurants, certainly, But you know, I
don't always know, because they might just say you're hey,
you're really funny, or hey I love your work or
something like that, or that's not a good day. They
might say other things. But but yes, I think if
I had to guess, it would be Flight of the
Concords and Louie and and yeah, I've been on a
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few things.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
But are you still in touch with Luisy k.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
If i's run into him, I am in touch with him.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
But uh yeah, was he fun to work with?
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Louis?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Yeah, he was very relaxed and very Yeah, he was
very relaxed.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah he was great.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
He was great.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
He might still be great. I heard he has a
novel coming out.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
I thought I heard he has two novels coming out.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Wow, I'm sorry all that stuff happened. I'm sorry all
this when I see my heroes do something that's not heroic,
but it's okay. Can we love the art and not
the artist? Is that okay?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Uh? Yeah, yeah I think it is.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I mean, did that did all that ruin him for you?
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I mean, I don't't get too into it because it's right.
I just haven't really talked about it publicly, but I
think you know, it's it shook me up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, yes, well it's certainly not nice what he did
well In listening to a bunch of podcast appearances, You've
not a bunch. You haven't done that as many as
you would think, as brilliant as you are. I did
listen to a Chris Hardwick episode where at one point
there were like ten names discussed and like half of
them have gotten you know, lightly cancel it, And I
just thought it is amazing how in comedy I don't know, like, uh,
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it's amazing how many people? How many people?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I think Louis still sells out places.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Doesn't he got a massive toy is doing like he's
in India and yeah so.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
He I mean he was canceled in one by one
section of the population, but not by the other, right.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
And unlike, Yeah, I started out writing for shows and
I'm not a comedian as you can well tell, but
like Todd was someone who I'm a fan of and
was very nice in a yeah, very nice. Uh, Louis,
I have the interesting thing of I worked with him
on a different show and it was an amazing it
was like maybe it was like Odin Kirk. It was
(28:45):
all brilliant guys, and I don't think Louis thought I
should be in the room, which is probably had he
had a good argument for that, and then I ran
it to him on the red carpet of the Emmys
when we were both nominated for something and he was
very nice and then ten seconds later got in trouble.
But enough about but.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Enough about him. Yes, I've got an album here because
we had a great guy here and did a did
a podcast with us and I was thrilled to meet
him and he signed this album that David bought for
me and it was Smokey Robinson just a few weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I don't know if you've seen the news.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Oh no, did something smoke your.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, I'll leave it to you to look it up.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Oh, I haven't heard listening.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Uh, but that was shocking to us.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Well it's also as the thing is it is, you
do not know what to say, because no, I could
say I've known him thirty years. I could say what
a great We.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Also don't know all the facts of the case, but
this has come out.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But yes, so yes, Uh.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
I hadn't heard about that. I will I'll google away.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yes, was doctor Katz I've loved doctor.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Oh yeah, that was that?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Something that was was I didn't know if you you
knew him well or if that was just a sort
of remember I.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
I did the show twice as a patient, and then
I just got this call. I think it was even
on a Saturday morning, which is not really the business hours,
but uh, and saying hey, and I guess it was
from Tom. So now Tom, what the fuck? Tom? I
forgot his name. I feel bad, but one of the
(30:25):
producers on the show, and he said, hey, would you
want to do a regular character? And I was like, yeah,
of course, And then yeah, that's how that was an
easy That was an easy audition. I guess do you know?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I had Jonathan on Raymond. He was going to do
a part on Everybody Loves Raymond and this was one
of the one, I'm going to say one or two
times that we had to fire someone during the week.
He would admittedly say that he's not an actor, and
(30:56):
yet I loved him so much I wanted him to
do this part. So I just gave him the part
without auditioning, which in hindsight, could have saved us a
little time and heartache. But he knew it wasn't going well.
He knew he wasn't right for this, and he kept
saying that to us as well, and it just wasn't
(31:17):
going to work out. So, you know, you have four
days to put these shows together. On the second day,
I had to, you know, pull the trigger, which I
was agonizing over making this phone call to him. I
didn't want the agent to do it. I wanted to
call him myself. So I call him and with all
the pain in my heart, I got to say, I'm
(31:38):
so sorry, it's just not working out. And he goes,
very dryly, he goes, could you excuse me one second?
And he puts the phone down and you hear in
the like he moved away from the mic.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You hear, oh.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
God, which was a performance ten times better than on
the show, And I just lost it. I was I
was so hysterical laughing. I couldn't believe he was doing
this incredible bit when he was fired for just for me.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
About him.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
I heard a story about him. He was driving with
a comic, a Boston comic, and the comic said, oh,
that's a nice burger king. So burger king. Jonathan's like,
I hope you don't die now because I don't want
that to be the last words. It's a nice.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
What a funny, funny, but I loved Do you know
who replaced him in that role? Do you know?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I don't remember, because do you no?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
But I always think about it in terms of think
how different history and America would be, possibly the last
election if Ray had not been fired Ray Romano from
news radio exactly, and that part going to Joe Rogan's
think how different history would be? Now, an actor of
your stature, have you I'm going to assume no, But
have you ever been fired from any part in anything?
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Not from apart? The only time I can think I
got fired was I opened for Paul Mooney at Caroline's.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Let's let's just say they weren't buying what I was selling.
And there was a few shows and then the bugger
came up to she was todd, Yeah, I know, what
was it like?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Really?
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I kind of I knew I was going to get
canned or it wasn't surprising what she was about to say.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
And did it impact you? Did it? Did it did
you feel terrible? Or did you say, show that's fine?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Uh? I think because I knew it wasn't and also
it wasn't fun for me if I'm I mean, that's
not fun to just night after night dread doing something
that's supposed to be fun. So I think I was
kind of like, yeah, I get it, and I think
I had a good I think I had a good
attitude about that.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Aude.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Every time I've been fired, and it's been plenty, I
I always felt took it very personally.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
That Slash, that's me, that's Slash. Slash CANADMA show in
London came straight from the airport. HI have friends I've
known twenty years who asked to be on my guest
list and don't show up. Slash is like we're going
to clear customs and head right over.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
All.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Right, have you ever open for musicians? One of the
things that I grew up in New York.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Ahead of you, and I always loved and I still
to day. I don't understand why more people don't do that.
I don't really want to see a band before a
band I want to see. I'd like to laugh. But
who have you opened for over the.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Years, Well, some of them. I'm sort of friendly with
the bands, like they might be giants. I've opened for
them Amy amy Man and Amymen Michael laying together.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Amy's sins.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
I opened for uh. I mean I once opened just
randomly for Grover Washington Junior.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Is just the two of you, just the two of us?
Speaker 6 (35:09):
I guess yeah. I mean it's the thing where it's
at the Valley Forge Music Center, which I think spun around.
It was a revolving stage, so that was one where
like that wasn't like a connection. There was just an
agent asked me, and that was challenging. But I think
the audience this one was like polite and unbombing kind
of situations and the stage is spinning. Is all those
(35:30):
eight different sets of congas on stage and didn't meet them?
But I mean who else today? I opened for other people.
I've done a lot of festivals.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Isn't it hard to be comic opening for a band?
Don't people start like going there?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Yeah? Yeah, I think it. I'm very selective about who
I I'm just not gonna do like a random tour
with someone, but you need to, yeah, or I often
have the act introduce me, because then that's it's not like, hey,
we just threw this guy up here. He's like, no,
this is our friend.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I think about it.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
La Tango of course, a bunch of shows with Yela Tango.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
My first concert, my dad and my parents took me
to a Carnegie Hall was a great country bluegrasses group
called Nigriny Dirt Band, but the opening act was Steve
Martin a week before he became famous, and that, wow,
forever changed. I guess that's like the template of what
a concert should be for me. I always want Steve
Martin to open up.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
He kind of has a hybrid because he plays music.
But yes, I heard about a good story. But you
know Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Richmond, yes, very well.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Someone told me that he had a comic open for
him somewhere and they were audience was brutal to the comic.
And then when he came out, he goes, for those
of you who are roots to my opening act tonight,
I'm not playing for you, and then started the shows like,
oh man, that's a fun that's a balls movement.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Wow. Yeah, I saw him last year and still great,
like unbelievable and funny like which I don't know if
you're a fan at all. We've both worked in different
ways with Randy Newman over the years. Like Randy Newman
once said, to me, I'm not sure youmor belongs in music.
Like it may have been a bad idea for me
(37:19):
all those years ago. So but like I actually love
the blend. You know, well, he was the best at it.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
I've been on two flights with him. Yeah, one from
Little Rock and one from New York Tela, which is
less surprising.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I loved him. Yeah, he's great. I loved working with him.
I thought he was terrific and really, you know again,
he's super funny.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah did you fly? Did you fly near him to
talk to him? Or no?
Speaker 6 (37:51):
I don't know if we were. I know what you're asking.
Was I in first class? No, it was.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I was not asking that. I could have asked.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
That we were sitting near him. I got no.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I meant like, did you would you? Are you the
kind of person who would say introduce yourself and say something?
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Almost never? I mean one of my favorite uh celebrity
encounters was like years ago, was walking through these village
and I saw Joe Strummer with a couple of people
walking and I was like, I will freaked out a
little bit, and I kind of just made eye contact
with him and I just him a nod. He goes hello,
and that was it, and I was like, that's kind
of a that's probably good for him and me. You know,
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he's not enough to stop the conversation. No, No, he
was very He wasn't punk when he said high me.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So what about you and your travels?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Who was the most incredible person that went to you
and said, Hi, I'm a fan?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Oh god, uh, I love just off the top of
my head. When I was backstage at the Grammy rehearsals,
thanks to you. Uh, Bonnie Rait passed me and went, hey,
did somebody feed you?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
That's pretty like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Why and she goes, love your show and I'm like, what, Yes,
that was a good one.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
That.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, I'm a as Todd you may have picked up
on I'm a name dropper of some Uh. I can
do that. But one thing I'm not is I don't
talk to people. Like if I'm sitting with someone on
a plane, I'm very shy, like I don't want to
bother them. But like, the greatest time it worked out
well was I flew next to Trevor Noah years ago,
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and I didn't want to bother him because I'd already
asked him to be a presenter at the Grammys that year,
and he said I'd heard he couldn't do it. But
eventually he started talking to me because I was watching
on my screen a football game, and that ended up
with him hosting the Grammys the last like pretty good
five years. So that was that was a good. Now
I'm going to try to be more serve. So if
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I'm on a plane next to you, I will bother you.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
Now I believe it, Todd.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But what are you working on now? You're riding slowly?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Are you tour?
Speaker 6 (40:02):
I'm touring, yeah, a lot, and I'm going to Europe
in a few days.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Oh where are you going? I just got back. I
toured Europe. Oh yeah I did, Yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I don't do stand up, but I do like an
evening with kind of thing. Oh really, which is the
lazy man's stand up?
Speaker 6 (40:17):
I guess it's like an all Q and A thing.
That's the biggest scam that you could do?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Is he just that you heard it here first? My
whole career is I don't know if you've seen what
I do, but that's uh, it seems to be quite
the racket.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
I'm going to Dublin, London, Oh, Barcelona, Lisbon and Madrid.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Now let me ask you this. Did you build in
a little time off so you can enjoy Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:46):
Yeah, I do the opposite of the Mike Watt if
you ain't playing your paying situation. Like I take a
day off because I just don't want to go to
like a country or a city I've never been to
and like do a show and then go to bed.
I mean one of at least a day dinner or something.
But for the most part, I've got days off. It's
like one those moment where I have it's back to back.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
But well, now that we're friends, you I want you
to uh uh text me these things. And and I'm
gonna give you a few places to eat if you're interested.
Oh yeah, because that's the number one thing I'm looking
for when I go. But man, you're gonna have fun.
This is coming up soon.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Yeah, I'm leaving Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Wow. And and are you touring with another comic?
Speaker 6 (41:33):
With another Now I'm touring by myself. I mean, there's
gonna be comics opening for me. And I know some
people in comics in London.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
And oh but you do you don't look like you're
a big food eater. But you do like food. You're
a big Are you a foodie?
Speaker 6 (41:49):
I'm like a picky foodie. I mean, I'm not like
I'm not like someone just you know, I'll eat anything.
I know there's people again jealous of them, but there's
a lot of stuff I won't eat.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 6 (42:06):
What's my favorite thing to not eat? I love Asian food,
and it's all gonna be the most obviously is Asian
food Italian food. Have you ever had Japanese curry? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Great?
Speaker 6 (42:20):
Yeah, I love that, burgers, chicken fingers. So you're fine,
get worse I have. Yeah. I was about to say
to Rito's.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
This sounds like a comedian's diet. But I really will
give you a few places to now that I know
your palace, Okay.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
And I'm also was you asking me what else I'm doing.
I'm also working on a I have a screenplay. Oh,
I'll text you that as well.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
It's not pooty Tang too, is it.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
No? I wish that would be a surefire, but there
is the man.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Will you do comedy clubs in Europe or do you
do just any kind of rock club kind of place.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
I mean they all are. They're like pubs that have
some of the room in the back. That's one of them.
That's a couple of them probably, And then there's like
a Madrid there's a Madrid Comedy Lab, which I guess
like I think of like little black box. They're not huge,
but we are adding some shows that must be huge.
In Lisbon.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Oh, Lisbon is so great. Yeah, you can watch that
episode if you want and see some of the place
we eat. Do you eat seafood at all?
Speaker 6 (43:38):
Yeah? I do?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Ramiro. I want you to go to Ramiro in Lisbon.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I can co sign on that when I went there recently.
Oh my god, yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Right Ramiro? Yeah, okay, And that's seafood.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, some of the best I've ever had in my life.
And here's the great thing about it. Dessert comes and
it's a steak sandwich. Are you sus serious?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
That is their tradition.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
It's phenomenal steak sandwich.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
Yep, Oh my god. What's it got on it? That's
crucial for me?
Speaker 1 (44:13):
A little bit of sauce of some kind. But if
you didn't want the sauce, you wouldn't have to have it.
But the steak itself is excellent. You can't believe, like
you have all these good sea creatures of the world,
and they're all delicious, a lot of stuff that I
never had before or never saw before, even and you're
eating all the seafood and subconsciously you don't even realize,
(44:38):
but you know it would be great back now a
steak sandwich, and then it comes.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
It's a surfing turf.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
Did they have dessert after that? Though, like a more tradition.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
You're so satisfied you don't even care. I'll go out
and get an ice cream after if you want. I
think they might have dessert. But I was so happy.
You're just so thrilled that a steak sandwich came.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I'm always thrilled. I'm hoping one right now. Yeah. I
also want to say that I very much feel connected
to you because I am the guy who doesn't give
a shit about cars. I actually don't even drink coffee,
and but I did watch comedians and cars getting coffee,
and I did think it was amazing that I felt
(45:25):
like some spiritual connection, because like, I don't understand when
people talk about sports cars. I just don't it seems odd.
I wonder do people bring that up ever to you
that that appearance.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
Yeah, I mean, that's very polarizing appearance on his shows.
There's a lot of people. I got a lot of
hate for that hate. Yeah. Why hey, I've been saying
that for years. But I mean I think he The
angle that Jerry went with, which I sort of get,
was he just made it look like I didn't say
anything the whole trip. Oh yeah, I mean it's all
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in the editing, of course, but so some people like,
you're the worst case. But then I was in New
Orleans eating what's that place that everyone eats at in
New Orleans or something? Oh coushon, Yeah, kuh yeah, and
I was eaten by myself and this waitress from the
cross of the restaurant b lines. That was my favorite
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episode of Comedians and Cars.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
I was like, so that you don't talk and he
just talks, That's that's very odd.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
I mean, I think that's I think, I mean, people
don't understand that, Like if he talks to Jay Leno,
they've been up to dinner four thousand times. But that's
the first time I knew Jerry to say, I to
him if I ran into him. But I'd never hug
out with him, And I mean, maybe I should I've
only watched it once. Maybe I should watch it again.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Maybe I got to see what they did to you.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
He was in New York when you got there. Was
he sort of already the sort of I was in
New York and I remember the era of Chris Rock
sort of starting out his early stuff. Uh, Seinfeld was
already a big deal. Ray was someone I would see.
Were they already when you got to New York? Who
were the people who were sort of leading the way
(47:13):
you got there?
Speaker 6 (47:14):
I mean all those guys you just mentioned and jon Stewart.
This a guy named Jonathan Solomon who haven't heard from
in a long time. He was one of the big guns.
And Ray, Yeah, and there were people I got Oh
and when and.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
When we met? You know those gigs where you're brought
in to write for other people, How what was that
experience like for you? Because you're you're a great joke writer.
But is it fun or not fun to write for
a different voice?
Speaker 6 (47:49):
Oh? It was fun. It was just a little frustrating
on those shows. Because you've watched the VMA, You're like,
I don't think anyone got anything on But there was
a lot of like over working, like pretending to work.
I think those are like, hey, Tam, we need twenty
banters between kid Rock and Mirror Sorvino Okay, and then
they go then they changed like kid Rock can't make it,
(48:10):
said we need thirty more, and I was just like,
I think we're overthinking this guy.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's our Joel Gallon I think must have
been producing back then. I don't know if you remember
that name.
Speaker 6 (48:22):
But yeah, I think it was a great believer.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
See we worked on like the America Attribute to Heroes
telethon with Joel. That was not a lot of jokes,
laughed Ryan.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Yeah, not the nine to eleven telephons.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
When there was a show like that, there would be
he would have want five thousand pages of Mirror Sorvino,
Kid Rock Gold to choose from.
Speaker 6 (48:43):
Yeah, it's uh. I remember my favorite part about writing
on those shows was that they you got to present
the script to the celebrity. So I uh I remember
once I they gave me a script that the one
that I didn't even write an intro or something, and
they go, can you go get this to Lenny Kravitz
and Zelle? So I go up there and and them
(49:04):
in the dressing room whatever, and she's like, they're both nice,
but she's like this script makes him seem stupid and
me stupider. I'm like, well, don't do it. Then I
didn't even write.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
This, but Yousell bunched and said that to you.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I don't remember the script.
You may have been completed, right, But but there was.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Also I guess when you look like that, you can
say anything.
Speaker 6 (49:26):
Yeah. Yeah, but there was also I remember Beck. They
had to give something for Beck and he's like, oh,
I kind of because I kind of just want to
wing in. I was like, yeah, that's that's probably the
best way to do it. And then but his assistant
referred to me as the little writer guy. Oh god,
It's like, fucking.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Well, you're the best writer guy that we know. Thank you,
Thank you, Todd. Is there anything else you'd like to
plug or tell people where to mind you online?
Speaker 6 (50:02):
Yeah? I mean on Instagram, I'm Todd Berry on I'm
not gonna call it X on Twitter Todd Berry Todd
Berry dot com. I think you see the.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Pattern, Todd. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 6 (50:18):
I have a lot of tour dates and we'll get.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
You my info so we can stay in touch and.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
Okay, that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Where Yeah, Todd, tell me the cities again, just because, uh,
there's some great ones in there.
Speaker 6 (50:29):
You're going where London, Dublin? Oh you mean when, right?
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Right?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
When you're going?
Speaker 6 (50:33):
Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to Doublin London, Madrid,
Barcelona and Lisbon.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
What a great, great lineup. That's great. You might run
into Springsteen when you're over there. He's over there now too.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Right, your old wrestler for him. That's right.
Speaker 6 (50:50):
I've never met Springsteen that he's saying the same thing, right,
Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 8 (50:57):
Naked Lunch is a podcast by Phil Rosenthal and David Wilde.
Theme song and music by Brad Paisley, produced by Will
Sterling and Ryan Tillotson, with video editing by Daniel Ferrara
and motion graphics by Ali Ahmed. Executive produced by Phil Rosenthal,
David Wilde, and our consulting journalist is Pamela Chellan. Thanks
for listening to Naked Lunch, a Lucky Bastard's.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Production, Todd, Phil, Why should people tune into Naked Lunch
(51:51):
this week?
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Todd? That's it, that's all you got.
Speaker 6 (51:56):
Oh, I thought you were asking him.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
No, I like this. This is a very good This
reminds me of your comedians in Cars episode where I
talk you don't say anything. I think people should watch
because Todd's one of the funniest comedians in the world.
And he's a sweetheart too.
Speaker 6 (52:13):
Thank you. Uh you should watch because I you know,
I enjoyed doing this. Podcast would have gone another twenty
minutes easy, but he didn't want to push it to
do today. But uh yeah, I talk about food, which
is one of my favorite things to talk about. So
you'll hear me at my most passionate and hilarious.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
God Barry
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