May 29, 2025 • 47 mins
Whew, Reigndrops - things are heating up in The Valley! Today, Carlos is joined by So Bad It’s Good host Ryan Bailey for the ultimate recap. Jax is dodging his rent, Jason’s ditched his wedding ring, and Danny’s not drinking - what is going on?! We dive into how the vibe in the valley is taking a darker turn, and what it could mean if things spiral even further. Plus, Carlos and Ryan share their takes on the familiar faces that popped up on our screens!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
the King of Reality TV and one of the most
sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable
(00:24):
moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,
Ray drops On today's episode Reality with the King, We're
back to discuss the amazing show called The Valley and
the most recent episode. And I have a very special guest.
He's printed the show. His name is Ryan Bailey. But
(00:44):
today how about you say, Ryan, who are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm Ryan Caperna, I'm Janet and Jason's third so very
excited to be here today as always, Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Jan and missus Jackson, if you're nasty? What episode this? Listen?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
This show is so freaking good. I love it so much.
I always tell people it's sort of like the best
show on Brava. Right now, I can't get enough of
these crazy kids and Ryan, I can't wait to recap
this episode with you, So let's get right into it.
The episode begins with Danny and Jason having a conversation
(01:22):
about this alleged drinking problem that Danny has. But by
the way, let's just start here, Ryan, do you think
Danny has a drinking problem?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Well, listen, if.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You, I mean, in all honesty, if you are grabbing
ass and you do not remember it, that is an issue.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
That is a problem.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Do I think he is like a daily drinker, that
he's like drinking rubbing alcohol? Not a chance in hell.
But as Jason points out later in the episode, or
maybe it was the after show, is just like, hey,
if I did that, I would never drink again, Like
if somebody told me I did that.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
So that's an issue.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But it is so interesting because this obviously happened close
to a year ago, and it's being pulled out for
the cameras, when, of course they could have had all
of these conversations if they were an actual friend group
away from the cameras. So I think you're getting this
like kind of double shock of my own behavior having
to face that, and then on top of it, like, well,
why didn't you tell me this when the cameras were off?
(02:17):
Why are why aren't we Why are we having these
conversations right now. So, I mean, I do think it's
a problem, but my god, we're in a cast with
Jax Taylor and Jesse Lally, which, by the way, you
should rename this to rehap with the King, because you
know your interview with Jesse Lally, anybody that had like
anybody that thinks negatively of a cast member, you should
they should come on this show.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
You need to get Janet next and see what you
can do for Janet.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
To my Lindy, let's put at the request or Janet,
because I really do want to get to talk to Art.
First of all, Beck, you Rye by exclusive, what Jesse
Lally was was very fun. I lacked the guy, icked
the guy, and I happen to agree with you with
terms of the conversations that they're happened with Danny boy.
His drinking problem did happen a year ago. But it's
(03:04):
so interesting is he appears to be very shocked that
it is even a topic of discussion. And I think
a large part of it has to do with the
fact that he's like, are.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
This happened a year ago, and you're waiting to tell
a fucking cannon cameras, a round with the fucking diva
light and overhead lighting and a microphone pack in our
Levi jeans.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
He's like, I'm trying to enjoy a hamburger.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
We're having hamburgers and a beer, and like, I didn't
know this conversation with and this is what happens, Like
if Jax Taylor didn't enter a mental health facility, we
would not be having this conversation right now.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Potentially, No, totally, totally, totally.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So I had to admit I was sort of caught
off guard with Jason, who was pretty much trying to
tell his boy Danny that, you know, it is kind
of a problem because Danny's like, and I'll love a flashback.
Danny's like, but that's not the message you said to
me while it is happen. And I think that this
(04:02):
is my theory. I think Janet, miss Jackson, if You're nasty,
had pillow talk with Jason, has said, look, motherfucker, when
you going that scene, I can't look crazy as the
only person who thinks Danny has a problem. I said
in the last episode, right, it was obvious.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Wait, but I mean, like, there is not a doubt
in my mind.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And by the way, if you are in a relationship
like that, you that is that kind of filter is
going to happen. You are going to be affected by
your partner. And you know, Janet is running her mouth
NonStop about the potent, like she looks at this from
ten different angles. On top of being a vander Pump
Rule's reality show fan, which I'm not bashing, but she
knows how the system works.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
So she even brings.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Up like, quote detective Doty, which is the name the
fans have given Dody over the.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Years, So she knows every which way.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And Jason, you know, he's just he's not a confident messenger.
Luke has this a little bit as well, where they're like,
in normal life, I wouldn't be doing this, but I
guess I to have this tough conversation now where Janet
runs towards a tough conversation, which is what reality stars
are supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yes, because one thing I like about miss Jackson is
the fact that Janet has never met a camera she
didn't like. You know, listen, I think it's all fair
in love and war in this case, in the Valley
and the rules of banda Pump she wants the gig.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
She is making shit happen. One thing.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
As the producer, I will say Janet is a producer's
dream because she stands on her own truth. She moves
story along, and she gives no fucks how she looks
as long as the camera's on her.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Okay, But Carlos, this is why you're perfect for This
is what my curiosity and I think this puts the
fans in this driver's seat where we're kind of swept
up in the story, but we are now in twenty
twenty five thinking about production and how you actually make
these things.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Is that Janet for the.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Most part, is universally disliked by the Brav fan base,
even me and you. I'm like, I can see what
she's doing. I can see some positive stuff. It is
moving story along. But what is that like when you're
dealing with a cast member that you know is universally
disliked and you're giving them the hot potato. How do
you encourage them or keep them in the game or
is it just their own ego that keeps themselves in
(06:18):
the game because they've always wanted this and they don't
care how they get it.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
No, that's a really good question, you have to balance
them out.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It's sort of like my study as it is a
libra you know, it's all about the tipping scales of balance,
and us libras try our best to be a balance
human being and we fell miserably at that, but we
do shout out to my libra range drops. But what
I will say is you have to balance someone out.
(06:48):
So obviously, when I worked on Atlanta Housewives in Jersey,
Kenya Moore and Danielle stob right to two totally different women,
it's something. They're there their place on this on their
respective shows, but are called a villain by the Bravo audience.
So you always try to find your best to show
(07:10):
the softer side of them, like the Sharman tissue. Let's
see the softer side of you.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So like next episode, we're gonna get a scene with
Janet and her baby potentially.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Right, yes, yes, yes, you want to be The thing
is this Janet doesn't mind doing her job, and her
job is and this is when I say job, not
that she's being a character. We all have our different
personality traits. That's true to us, right, So when I
say her job, she knows that her personality is. She
(07:41):
likes to be nosy, she likes to say what it is,
and yes, she has the propensity to understand that.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I know how TV works.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I'm a fan of it, but when you're producing someone
like Janet, you do have to rull her back sometime to.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Say, look, be messy on you want to we love
it here.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
However, let's balance you out because you don't want a
Janet to quit the show because then it's sort of
like Jackson rehaff So, who the fuck do we have
to start the pot?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, I mean that's like the big question even in
this episode, because we have the first appearance of Lala.
She know, we had an appearance of last week on
the hike with Michelle, but you know, Lala has her
scene with Jesse, and you know, my thought is is
this always planned or were they not scrambling? But like,
let's do plan B. Now that Jacks is gone for
seven episodes, let's try to protect this cast with additions,
(08:39):
even though it does in my personal opinion, it does
not need this like Lala.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I mean that's like a that's giving.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Like an easy hit to Lala, Like, oh, say something
crappy about Jesse. You can talk about narcissism and walk off,
and then Sheena, you know, jumps into the scene like
classic Sheena. But does it really need that? And and
why do they throw those things in? Was it because
of Jack's Was that always the plan?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Great question. I think it's a little bit of both. Right.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
What I'm starting to see is is this number one.
We all know that at the end of the day,
rain Drops the Valley is the quiet spinoff of Vanda
Pump Rules. It's sort of the thing that no one
wants to really talk about. It's a marketing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah yeah, well, I mean why do you why do
you think it's quiet? I mean because for me, I
just call it like vander Pump Junior, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Because people got fired for misbehaving.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh yeah, this is like vander Pump with knee problems,
like as you get older, this is what happens, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
But I totally I totally get that.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think that's the reason why
it's like this quiet spinoff, although we kind of know
what it is. So to answer your question when it
comes to La La number one, I agree with you.
I don't think we need Laala, and I'm a fan
of Laala I think the reason why she was brought back. Yes,
when it comes to Jack's you sort of need that.
That's spitfire.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Number two, you want a test to kind of see
the chemistry that a notable face has with this new
crop of people. That's number two and number three, which
to me is the most important. The way Bravo sort
of sees Housewives as like a soap opera where a
character leaves and in the world of soap opera, dies
(10:25):
off and then comes back to Like we're seeing that
for Paja Parks on Atlanta Housewives. You last saw her
season nine. She's back for season sixteen. There was a
seven year gap of no Fadra. Now that she's back,
everyone presumably is happy. So with La La, it's sort
of like, let's bring back these characters that the audience
(10:46):
familiar with. But I think the reason why we all
love the valley so much is because it's its own specialness.
And when I see La La La La to me
will always be bound the plumb rules. Kristin to me,
And when I say this here met guys, Kristin to
(11:06):
me fits way more on this show than band the
pump rules because she fits this world and to me
on Banda Pump.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Rules La La Arianna Sheena, they fit that world of
like we were Bartender, we made a bigger Hollywood in
the entertainment industry, and here we are here us roar
where I think the Valley gives me very much suburban lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, I mean don't like last episode they're moving into
their rental house, you know, in preparation of a family,
and that is very different than you know, a Jax
Taylor buying a home with Vander Pump money and then
you know, obviously you know, not paying the bills for
three months because he's living beyond its means. You know,
there's something so like earthy obviously about Dody where it's
very valley related and not star driven where Lala, you're right,
(12:01):
Like I watched that premiere of the new season of
Real Housewives in Miami which comes out in a couple
of weeks, and.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But they were like they're dressed up like superheroes the
whole time, Like they are so done up in every
scene and I loved it. But that's not the valley.
None of these people are done to the nines. I
love that, and I wouldn't even say it's aspirational, but
there is something recognizable about the valley that we.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Can relate to.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
The only thing that I would say is the glaring
issue is that in no way can we call this
truly a friend group. Like, you know, if you are
constantly talking mad you know, sahi t to everybody about
the person you should be having in the conversation with,
you would not hang out with that person eventually. So
it's like this thin tether that keeps all of these
(12:46):
people together. And that thin tether is just TV. It's
just the fact of commerce and TV.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
No, it really is, it really, it really is.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And what they're going to have to figure out is
sort of like how they can make sense for the
show to last multiple seasons with exacting.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That they're real friends.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Because again, that's the reason why I've had the pot
rules have to be recast, because it was it was
glaringly obvious that they just weren't friends. I want to
get into what you mentioned about Jackson not paying the
mortgage for three months.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Classic Jacks, by the way, classic Jacks. Well, Jackson is dangerous. Yes,
a month, three months, and Brittany was paying for the
airbnb rental on top of that, and then in this
episode he just slides it out there to Brittany that
(13:40):
he assigned a lease on a new place right next
to Tom Schwartz like and having not still paid the
rent on the actual property that they own.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Child, we are just getting started. This is reality with
the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
the show. To my female listeners, if I didn't learn
(14:14):
one thing from Teresa Judais going to prison, if you
read every document your husband putting in front of you
to sign, that's number one, but number two, know what
the fuck your husband's doing. You need to listen. I
want to see the castle check. I want to be
able to log in if you're paying a mortgage in
twenty twenty five, there's a website that you log into.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Carlo by Carlos here.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I think at this point, if something happens, we know
that Brittany and Jackson will get a full pardon. I
think with recent events, so I think they're safe. I
think they're safe. I think that's a good third season
of the Valley. Jackson Brittany get a full pardon for
any financial misdeeds. But no, you're right, it is shocking
that they live such public lives and then you realize
(15:02):
that their private lives are disastrous in some ways, but
also just the financial aspect of it, which is somewhat
aspirational to all of us of like, oh wow, they
can buy cool things. Is that is just full of
smoke as well. It's all smoke and mirrors, and that
to me is fascinating to watch the dissolution of even
though it's really painful to think about their reality.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
No, it's really painful, but it's such an asshole thing
of Jacks because at the end of the day, this
is the mother of your child.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So to risk your child being homeless.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Meanwhile, you have enough money to sign a lease to
live next door to Tom Schwartz, who isn't the babysitter,
do you know what I mean? So to need cops
decision is horrible.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
We need to siphon off all of Jackson's Cameo money
right to Brittany. It should go well, we should contact Cameo,
but it like I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
That's the thing. And even Jesse brings.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Us up to a degree too of like the daughter
or the son and these things, and it makes for good.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Clips but I'm like, where is the action.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Jackson will talk till he's blue in the face of
like I do I'm doing this for my son. I'm
doing this for my kid, and then when it comes
down to it, he doesn't do any of the things
that he knows would be good for his family and
to put his son above himself, and that never happens.
I mean, we've lived since twenty thirteen with the character
of Jax Taylor. He has not really changed that much
(16:28):
except he has new like buzzwords to speak about, and
he's able to use therapy as a protection.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You know, even in the after show, which, by the way,
the Valley After Show, I so recommend on Peacock. It's
like thirty minutes each week, but they speak and give
it more context, and he's like, yeah, I picked a
park to have that hard conversation with Brittany, and I
brought my therapist along so you know, they could back
me up in what I was doing with moving out.
I want to know what facility this man has gone to,
(16:54):
because it sounds so lax. He's able to go back home,
fiddle with the cameras to watch Brittany, He's able to
be on his phone the entire time. I don't know
a lot about the mental health industry in terms of
like rehab, but like it sounds like it's really loose.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So apparently it's not even a rehab because in real
rehab you can't leave the premises for a certain amount
of days minimumly thirty. So it's I agree with you,
it's it's I don't understand the facility he's in. I
don't understand why he's able to go to a park
and with his therapist and see his kids and they
have to go back to the to the rehab station,
(17:31):
but also am able to mess with the cameras he's
watching Brittany, telling her I know what you're wearing. It's
it's super gross and super controlling in how he's treating Brittany.
And I know Brittany isn't the favorite of the show,
but no woman deserves to be to succumb to that
(17:51):
sort of mental abuse that he's displaying with her by
telling her I'm watching you, I'm not paying the mortgage
and Beth bah blah.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Well that's I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
That's the other thing is that the audience then goes
into production mode of like, how does a producer determine
when it's too far? Like obviously they helped or forced
him into this facility in the first place, you know,
because they were filming with him.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
It went too far.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
But when somebody is doing this many things like where
is the point where it does cross this.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Line of like we can't work with you. These are threats, even.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Though you're saying they are not, it does get to
a scary place. Like last episode Lala and the after
show or no, maybe it was Lalla's podcast or something
was saying listen, I told Brittany to get out of
there because I thought she was gonna get hurt if
she didn't. And I was like, now we're talking or
insinuating physical violence.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
In twenty twenty five, reality shows, as you know, have
changed so much in terms of like what behavior actually
is acceptable. And I think a lot of behavior obviously
is still acceptable. But where as a producer, I mean,
we've seen it with James Kennedy, We've seen it with
all of these people. Where do you draw that line
and still worry about the overall health of the show.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I think it's something where Brittany has to say out
loud to them she feels unsafe, right because at the
end of the day, they're not paying for the house
we need.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
The production is Brittany's house. It's her situation.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So if she feels unsafe in her own home, the
only thing a production can do.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And I'm not a lawyer, but I just base his office.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Being a producer is sort of making sure the crew
is not in the house, making sure she has resources
to live other places, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
But first thing first, she has.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
To vocalize it, because you don't want to step into
someone's reality and alter it, because God forbid, if you
do that, something else could happen. And it's because you
remove somebody from their normal behavior and you're placing them
in the hands of something else where. They didn't ask
(19:58):
for you to do that, so it is very tricky.
But first thing first, Brittany has to first say this
and explain to them why apparently that hasn't happened yet. Now,
look in Jackson Fence, they're having verbo spats that we've
seen across all of these shows.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I want to make that very clear.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Nothing has gone physical, at least from what Brittany has said,
all of it just appears to be this asshole of
a husband she has who is doing asshole shit. And
at the end of the day, there's tons of assholes
who are on all across reality television for being that.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
But and that's not criminal, and that's not criminal.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
That is not criminal to be an asshole, whether you're
a male or female. Brittany safe word needs to be Bravo, Bravo,
effing bravo with production, like, if she feels safe, just
throw that out there and they've got Brittany.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
But I will say also, like do we need Jax Taylor, Like,
you know.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Obviously he's not coming back. I think till episode ten,
the show is sailing along without him. And of course
we have these little like Blair Witch camera things you know,
of him checking in, but we don't necessarily.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Need that because we get it. I mean, it will
be necessary.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It will be definitely exciting when he comes back to
see how he tries to maneuver within the framework that's
been set up after he left. And you'll, you know
that if anything, it's like I thought this was Sandobal
as well, is that the only thing they truly love
is themselves and the show. Like Jackson's like big argument
with Britney leaving was that you took my dream for
me and his dream sadly enough, was to get back
(21:32):
on reality television.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
He said that.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, they talked about it more on the after show too.
Was that he was like Brittany was like he.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Said, he I took his dream away from him and
how dare I do this? Because you know, she was
the one.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I think that maybe tipped off production, that it was
in a really bad place because remember he threw the
chair that we saw the broken chair of in that
first or second episode. Yeah, well the king, the King
has paused.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Wow, well Beth.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
So I mean, look, when it comes to Jack's, I
think what we have seen is the show must go on.
I tell everybody all the time, everyone is replaceable. No
matter how iconic you are, you are replaceable. When it
comes to Jack's, Look, the storyline is still alive without
him being there because he's misbehaving. Wherever he is child rehab.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Or he's a David Busters Janet loves.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It, Okay, Yeah, so wherever he's at, the stories alive.
And I think a lot of it has to do
with what his behavior is at this upcoming reunion that
they already shot weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
But as of now, as of now, the.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Season is great without him, and listen, as a reality star,
that's not what you want to hear.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Well, this show is like the Little Engine that could,
because when it came on, we were all like, who
needs this show?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I'm not going to watch this show, And then it
turned out to be great.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And then you lose cast members like Jacks and things
like that, and it still works, and it works in
this kind of mess of a way where I was noticing,
you know, I say this every week or every day
of like this show is so dark, but I don't
say it in a negative way.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That's what I've signed up to watch.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Like, if I want to go watch lighthearted drama, I'll
go to Summerhouse or another show. But if I want dark,
there are so there's such darkness, like.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It truly is.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Like I said at the very last episode of The Valley,
We're gonna find out that it was actually they were
in hell the whole time. It'll be like, oh, this
was actually hell. Oh that's why they kept saying it
was so hot in the Valley. It's in the hell
because it is any way you cut it. And then
on top of it, they have kids. So when they
show the kids like Isabella or something, it really like
floors you because you're like, oh my god, we never change.
(23:41):
We never change. We only just make like small adjustments
to our lives. And I'm curious to see Jesse Lalley
next season, like because you can almost forgive certain aspects,
like he had that great talking head of like, Okay,
she is a liar and a cheater, but maybe I
shouldn't have said whore, you know, Like he's still with
those two things. So I'm curious what his behavior is
(24:02):
like a year from now, once the actual anger and
resentment dissipates, if it ever does, to see who Jesse
really is, Like is he a villain? Is he a
bad guy? Or is he somebody that like really misjudged
actions in a relationship and lost something that he never
thought he would lose. But he's not like vindictive in
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the entirety of his life.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
He gives me like this bad boy who really tries
to do right, but he's battled between both worlds.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
So Charlae, wait, wait, Carlos, would you ever, wait, would
you ever send Jesse Lalley twenty five hundred dollars Venmo
for his birthday? Would you ever send him money.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
If I was a girl? No?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I mean remember that was on the episode a couple
of weeks ago, is that we found out get a
gay man sent him money, and then they repealed it
was twenty five hundred dollars on his birthday, and I
was like, that's a great friend.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, as a gay man, I think another straight well,
as a gay man sending a straight man twenty five
hundred dollars, I'm not doing that under any circumstance.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
If I'm a girl and I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Sitting this hot guy, twenty five hundred dollars is because
I want them.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So, guys, everybody, Benmo requests Carlos today, twenty five hundred dollars.
Everybody everybody listening, ring drops. Benmo requests Carlos.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You can find me under my government name. I'm teasy.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I did think that was strange, but nothing to me
was more stranger than Kristen claiming that Jason doesn't wear
his bread his wedding ring because he's up to something
no good. And then we have messy as Zach, who
I love, by the way, who is telling Christ and
obviously Christ is in her villain era and she's owning it.
(25:50):
She's like, you fuck with Nia, I'm a fuck with you.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
But she says she's ethereal.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
She's an ethereal villain like she was, so she was
a different form of villain on vander Pump Rules, and
now she's like mother villain, like Mother Earth, mother villain.
Like it's almost spiritual in the way that she's a
villain on the Valley, which is very different. But this
is what I'm talking about is that it is like
it's like a separate government agency where they're all keeping
files on each other and then they choose when to
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reveal the information and show their cards. And so this
rumor about Jason Caperna about the wedding ring went back
like a year and a half or something, and she said,
I don't like what they're doing to Nia and Danny,
so I'm gonna put this card on the table, and Janet,
you know, really laughed that off immediately. Jason was like,
oh my god, thank god, it's just that I thought
it was going to be something different, But no, that's
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not true at all, And I just thought it's one
of those other things if you really stop and think
about it, of like, why are we not having these
conversations when it's revealed? And by the way, shout out
to Jasmine as well. A lot of this stuff seems
to be coming from Jasmine, which I'm like, has anybody
talked with Jasmine about why she doesn't actually talk directly
to people and just really has the power behind people's backs,
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which I find interesting to explore. But yeah, I mean,
I think this is typical Dody, but just in a
new a new age Dody, which I'm here for.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
But then you have Janet.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You have two people, and Janet realizes the power of Dody,
and Janet almost aspires to be Doty like and Dody.
You know, Doty has had a new level of respect
the last three years, but I remember a time when
people were really against Doty, so it's interesting to see
her come into her power and Janet really wants want
that power. So if you watch this show of like
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a Battle for Power, it's another additional way to enjoy
the show because they're all making these weird chess moves.
If you look into it and Janet has studied from
past seasons of Doty, so she's like I knew Dody
would make this move and I knew and you're like, god,
this is so calculated, Like you know, they all have binders,
Like that's what I want if anybody has Janet's binder
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of information to use, I mean, that would be better
than Monique's receipts from Potomac.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Like we need find her.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes, what are your thoughts of Jasmine?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Because she is sort of under the radar, sort of
like you know, discussing things like Danny's you know, lack
of sobriety sort of moving things around, but she's still
very much isn't as she's not as in the forefront
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of everything the way Kristen is. Why is that you
think is that purposeful of Jasmine being very smart in
terms of let me drop it and then hide my hands.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
What do you feel?
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I mean, what we have like this?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I mean we now know that Jasmine obviously is a
reality show veteran. She was on Nick Vile season of
The Bachelor. You know, she knows her way around the
credit camera. I think at one point she was about
to be on BANDR Pump Rules and it didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Years and years ago.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I like that they have natural friendships with these people,
like I can attest that that is completely real. The
thing with her, I think maybe this is also a
production of using her at like key moments, like she's
key in the evidence portion of Danny, the persecution of Danny,
and you can't take away her experience with her girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
That has to be horrific.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And what I love about Jasmine was that concept that
I was unfamiliar with, of man, you don't understand a
lesbian relationship.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
We are fetishized. We are you know, we come in.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
People are not respecting us in the way you do
with the straight relationship. And that thought was so foreign
to me, and I was like, oh, wow, you're actually
I'm learning something from this. But she is just as
messy as the rest of them. And when the show
chooses to highlight that mess like we're seeing her talk
about you know, she started the Jason stuff like texting
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Zach and Janet, like she seems to be in that
kind of Janet Kaperna lane where they really do disc
collect information and talk mad shit about everybody, even if
you're friends with them. And so I think Jasmine is
going to be a key player in Seasons to come.
You know, Zach does it in a comedia like there's
all a commune. But Jasmine also gets the angriest talking
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about a situation after the person she's angry with has left,
like Nia last week. You know, they had this conversation
like and Nia's like, I just don't want you to
do it behind my back and da da da, and
she's like They're all like great, and then Nia leaves
and everybody's like She's like, what I don't like about
Nia is this? And Danny did this, and she got
all fiery, and I'm like, where was that fire when
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Nia was there?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Sorry, I get wait too into this, Carlow. So I'm like, now, good.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Point, listen, Ryan, points are made.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
So I'm with you there.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
When you saw Jason come front Kristen about you know,
him not wearing his wedding ring, I'm kind of on
Jason's side. I don't think he's doing it maliciously. I
don't think he's trying to cheat on Janet.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I just you know, I think Kristen is definitely just
trying to like something happen.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I think it fell flat.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Well, it's in.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's in like that Jesse Lallely on the first first
episode of like, did you start that fight about Newport
Beach on purpose to bother her?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
And he's like, yeah, of course, Like Dody is like.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That, and Dody says that admittedly, if you f with somebody,
I like, I'm going to come for you. And so
this information has been in their back pocket for a minute.
Even Luke was like, I don't know if you should
be doing. I always love like people like Luke and
Jason that are like, yo, this isn't like the reality showed.
This isn't good for our souls in a like a way,
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like you can just tell there's like trouble, you know.
So they're always really tentative. Even in the confrontations or
Jason having to talk to Danny, you can tell they
probably really stress. It natural for Dody and it just
rolls off the tongue. But I don't think I think
Jason obvious. I don't think Jason did anything. I truly
think this was a rumor. But also the show will
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suss this out. Like the show, the show will uncover
any sort of criminal activity.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
You just have to give it time.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I don't think Jason's doing any What I did like
towards the end of the episode was obviously not only
Britney sharing with the group what her and jacksonre going through.
I did like the fact that we had Tom Schortz
making appearance at the end of the episode.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It was like, his whole career is listening to people
complain about his best friends.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Like, that's his whole career at this point.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, that upon is all about Sandoval, and on this show,
it's all about Jack's. Brittany is confiding at him about
what has been going on, and Shorts just seems to
be like, look, I don't know what this has to
do with me.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's your husband. I feel bad this is happening to you.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
But the since I got from Schwartz is that's not
going to prevent me from being this guy's friend.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Oh yeah, so what are we doing here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I mean there is a boy's code, there's a boy's chat,
there's all of these you know, you talk about girls code,
there is guys code. And at this point, if Schwartz
has not left Jack's, and Schwartz is not left sand
he's never going to leave.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
And I'm not saying.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
He's like, you know, he's an abused friend, but he
is so used to Jack's behavior that I think they're
all desensitized to it. Like Brittany, like everything's coming out
about Jacks from like the previous ten years of their relationship,
and everybody's super aware of all of the things he's done.
But Jack's has some sort of I don't know if
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it's star quality or charisma where everybody's like yeah, because
I was like you in person, he must just be
so sincere that you can't help but like almost feel
bad for him or just go, well.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
He's been good to me. He's been good to me,
and that seems to be that lane that Jax lives in.
But yeah, I would love Even on the after show,
Schwartz has paired up with Jesse and Jacks and Schwartz
even this week's episode was just like I hate to play,
you know, like I hate to be like negative about this,
but like, you know, if you took care of Brittany,
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that would kind of be taking care of your son, right,
And it's just like, dude, you have to talk to
Jack's like he's a child because you're scared that he's
gonna be angry at you, so you have to present
your argument, which is the right argument of taking care
of your son in such a delicate way. And I don't,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
There's a mystery to Jacks that I don't think is
worth uncovering. But it's just in mystery how he's gotten
this far doing the same behavior again and again and again.
He's putting out the same album every year.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, yeah, which is why it was interesting to see
the highlight of bringing a Jack sort of montage at
the end.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
You know, sometimes I'm like, why don't they just do
a full hour of montage, Like there are so many
clips that you could pull from Jack's on vander Pump Rules,
which they have all the footage of, and like even
the never before seen stuff, like you would just do
a super cut or do like a power hour for
frat people to drink to of Like every minute you
see a new Jack's angry, Jack's are arguing Jack's upset
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and you have like this entire history, Like that's why
it's like open the schools. We have these ink of
past Bravo shows to study and it's the same behavior
and it's the same thing. You know, he'll call it
work in progress or he'll call it something new.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
And at the end of the day, I do want
Jacks to be okay.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I just don't know if reality shows are like overall
good mentally. I know financially they're good, but I get
That's why I'm like, the Valley could get darker. You know,
we think it's dark now, it could get way darker.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, And I'm hoping it doesn't because listen, it was
another great episode. I really do enjoy this show because
it's not about the fluff and the pompous circumstance, the money,
the riches and all of that. It really is about
this group of people who live in this certain part
of California and they're trying to figure things out.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
And I like the fact that.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
It just feels way more normal than, like you said,
on Miami Housewives or any Housewives by that matter, which
is about the riches and everything else that I described earlier.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
So I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I hope it doesn't get dark, And I think I
just hope that each of these cast members take a
page out of what did not work towards the end
of Vanda Pump Rules and they don't allow to happen
to them.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
And what would you in your opinion, what happened to
vander pump Rules. Was it just the.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
They Oh, for sure, they drank the kool aid and
everybody thought they were the Beyonce of the show. Everybody
thought that they did not have to give as much
reality as they normally would. They got comfortable just becoming
people that we didn't recognize anymore because they became guarded
because listen and listen, no blank to them, right, there's
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no instruction manual that one has. The moment you come
from obscurity to being on a hit show. You know,
they were once waiters and waitresses and hosts and hostesses,
and all of a sudden they're out of their apartment
and they're living in multi million dollar homes in West
Hollywood at the time. So it does something to your psyche.
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But you always got to keep your eyes on the prize,
and that's why you don't look. Kyle isn't having the
best seasons for the past couple of seas. Julie Hills
Kyle Richard's, but she's the only standing o g on
that show because she understands the importance of the show
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and her role, and I want everybody else to be
that way. The same thing with Giselle Bryant, the same
thing with or I'll even give you another example of
what not to do. Don't do what Jersey did. Don't
don't divide the cast, and don't develop an ego like
stick it strictly to this is working and let's not
(37:55):
mess up with the formula.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Well, I mean to your point.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I just rewatched season two of Real Housewives Beverly Hills
because I was talking about the valley being so dark.
And then I went back and watched season two of
realized I was a Beverly Hills and I was like, oh
my god, forget what I say about the valley.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
That season of Beverly Hills was insanely dark.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
You had the coming off of Kyle, you know, calling
Kim an alcoholic. You had the tailor Armstrong stuff. And
by the way, I was drinking, don't watch these shows
while you drink wine.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Because then I.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Bought a used edition of Kyle Richard's Life is Not
a Reality Show. I was like, I gotta, I gotta,
I gotta dig into this, I gotta, I gotta check out.
And you got a little Porsche there on the cover,
and I like, I bought a US copy, that's how
desperate I was. But there is something too, like watching
Old Kyle at how they used to produce that show
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and New Beverly Hills. It's so different than that second season,
and so that's why I think The Valley works. It's
like the second season of Beverly Hills, where it is
you sense a reality there, you sense a struggle that
sometimes with other Housewives iterations, you don't sense a struggle
at a certain point, even though you know it's there,
we're just not seeing it.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
And the Valley you see it.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And I also hope they don't podcasts because they all
have podcasts and they all have you know. But I
think it's one of those shows that I really look
forward to each week, and even though it shouldn't work,
it completely works. I just don't know how you keep
that momentum going. And that's why I'm like always so
fascinated to talk to you, because I'm like, you know
(39:25):
the inner workings of how this stuff is made, and
you know, it's like you can blame it at it,
you can blame this, but at the same time we
are seeing a version of actual reality of their lives.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, we are, we are, we are,
and that's why for me, I just want them to
stick to what it works.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
And I think based on how Jason I'm not Jason,
how Jesse Lally came across a likable in my interview.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Somebody's got a cross on Jesse. You guys, somebody's a.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Question on Jesse.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Do not tell Jesse check check yes or no. Jesse.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
There's a certain producer slash podcaster, slash entrepreneur that wants
to that likes you. Are you interested to hand back
this note to Bravo HQ by five o'clock on Friday.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Regardless if I have a crush or Jesse or not,
I'm not giving him twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Can we get it down to twelve hundred? Jesse? Jesse,
if you're listening, can we can we get it down?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
We do want to support, like I'll even pitch it
a couple bucks, But like a.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Ryan, am I blushing anyway?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
All I'm saying Ryan is Jesse showed me that he's
a work in progress.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
And what I want for all of the cast is
to be a work in progress.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, but Carlos have we just like taken all the
power out of the phrase work in progress because we've
seen Jacks try for thirteen years, so it's like you're
all in no saying, but like when you say you're
a work in progress on a Bravo reality show, it's
attributed to Jack's and then like it almost kind of
like cuts you at the knees of like, oh right, yeah, okay,
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well I'll know it when I see.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
It, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I mean, Laala was able to brush Jesse off like
like you know, they gave Lala that easy layup with which,
by the way, kind of a dumb move overall with
La La because it's like, yeah, you want that moment,
but if you are trying to audition for a space
on the valley, you can't just cut people off like that.
It's good for the moment, but that's all it is
is a moment, and then it makes it reminds people
(41:38):
of what they didn't like about her on the last
season of vander Pump Rules instead of maybe a different
side of La La that we haven't seen, if there
is one, because you know, what is like the feeder
system is house of villains traders like you know what,
other whatever, other reality shows that there's a feeder system
from this one. So I do wonder sometimes about these
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people if they feel pressure to try to get more
on the valley.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah, no, awkward.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
I think La LA's choice should have been to not
give what's expected, and it would have been a nice
surprise for us to see her still be La La
and spicy. But I think that she was very aggressive
and that's why Jesse gave her nothing.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Because he knew she was auditioning.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Yeah, so you.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Want to get popped, let's go. Also, I mean, if
she was smart, she would have tried to make out
with Jesse. Don't get jealous, Carla, don't get jealous. Don't
don't get upset. Carlos God, it's okay, he loves you,
but like you gotta let him. You gotta let him cook.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
You know, ah rot I to talk to you on
that you are so.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
I know you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I know I overtalk, but I get so sad because
I know we're like probably at the end of this,
and I'm like, oh, I just love I love talking to.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Carlos so much, soy please, I love our banter. I really,
really do.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Thank you so much for coming into roality with the King,
but you have your own very hugely, wildly successful podcast.
And I, first of all not sure if I mentioned
this to you. Maybe I did, but I'll do it
again if I did. I really enjoyed your integration with
The Valley by the way, oh thank you yea from
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only getting in.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
The car and oh yeah, I did the Valley Van,
which I mean, talk about being scared out of my mind.
I was in a car with Jax, Jesse and Schwartz
and you know, I've talked mad shit about Jack's for
years and like, at the end of the day, I
do want him to be okay, but it's like we
talk about these reality shows and you do, like I
make jokes about it, like I'm critical about it. But
he was like, do you talk shit about me? And
(43:37):
I was like, I've had some opinions over the years,
like I thought I was gonna and the dudes put
on like fifteen pounds of muscle. But he was actually
a super fun experience and in that way, they were
all like nice guys, you know when you're dealing with
them in that kind of situation. But it was like
Jack's just kept saying, it's the it's the worst year
of my life. This has been the worst year of
my life. And Schwartz was kind of making fun of
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him in the backseat of like, oh, you're working PRIs.
Oh you know, it's like it's it was. I felt
like I was on an acid trip. I was like,
there is no way I'm in this car with these
three men right now.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Well I've joined it. I joined it.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
But let my Raindoss know where the kids support subscribe.
Oh yeah, and like your podcasts, Yeah, it's called so
Bad It's good. We do shows pretty much like every day.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
There's a Patreon as well, but we cover like Valley
in Summerhouse and I'll do huge recaps of that.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
We do a pop culture round up.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I had the director of that new Sherry Peppini, uh
four part docu series that was insane. We just had
Philip Solomon from Dealer No Deal Island. Who's actually you
would love Philip Solomon. He was He was so good
on today's episode. But yeah, there's different guests every week,
so it's interview, pop culture and recap. So if you
ever want something, it's always there, but no pressure at
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all to check it.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Out rain Drops. Check it out if you have it,
I know you have, but just check it out.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
If you haven't.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
For those who did it, subscribe to like it. It's
very diverse in terms of what he's talking about with
these shows, and he gives. As you all can tell
based on this episode. He has such passion when it
comes to these episodes, so it's always good to know
that the person you're listening to loves it just just
as much as we love listening to it.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
So yeah, that's it. I mean, it really is about love.
Like at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
I we know that sounds so cheesy, but it's like, God,
I just feel so lucky to be able to talk
about this stuff and whatever I can do to like
keep doing this.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I'm just thrilled.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Like I never thought I would talk to you one day,
Like I remember five years ago knowing who you were
and going, oh man, I'll never so like stuff like this.
I always feel like it's like this make a wish foundation.
So it's awesome. I just really appreciated.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
I love that. No, this is great. This is great.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
We'll love to have you back.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
On and rain Drops.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Check out his podcast.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Please good luck with Jesse, dude, let me get let
me get my cash appen zel together.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Ryan, Bye, dude.
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moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,
Ray drops On today's episode Reality with the King, We're
back to discuss the amazing show called The Valley and
the most recent episode. And I have a very special guest.
He's printed the show. His name is Ryan Bailey. But
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today how about you say, Ryan, who are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm Ryan Caperna, I'm Janet and Jason's third so very
excited to be here today as always, Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Jan and missus Jackson, if you're nasty? What episode this? Listen?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
This show is so freaking good. I love it so much.
I always tell people it's sort of like the best
show on Brava. Right now, I can't get enough of
these crazy kids and Ryan, I can't wait to recap
this episode with you, So let's get right into it.
The episode begins with Danny and Jason having a conversation
(01:22):
about this alleged drinking problem that Danny has. But by
the way, let's just start here, Ryan, do you think
Danny has a drinking problem?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Well, listen, if.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You, I mean, in all honesty, if you are grabbing
ass and you do not remember it, that is an issue.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
That is a problem.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Do I think he is like a daily drinker, that
he's like drinking rubbing alcohol? Not a chance in hell.
But as Jason points out later in the episode, or
maybe it was the after show, is just like, hey,
if I did that, I would never drink again, Like
if somebody told me I did that.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
So that's an issue.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But it is so interesting because this obviously happened close
to a year ago, and it's being pulled out for
the cameras, when, of course they could have had all
of these conversations if they were an actual friend group
away from the cameras. So I think you're getting this
like kind of double shock of my own behavior having
to face that, and then on top of it, like, well,
why didn't you tell me this when the cameras were off?
(02:17):
Why are why aren't we Why are we having these
conversations right now. So, I mean, I do think it's
a problem, but my god, we're in a cast with
Jax Taylor and Jesse Lally, which, by the way, you
should rename this to rehap with the King, because you
know your interview with Jesse Lally, anybody that had like
anybody that thinks negatively of a cast member, you should
they should come on this show.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
You need to get Janet next and see what you
can do for Janet.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
To my Lindy, let's put at the request or Janet,
because I really do want to get to talk to Art.
First of all, Beck, you Rye by exclusive, what Jesse
Lally was was very fun. I lacked the guy, icked
the guy, and I happen to agree with you with
terms of the conversations that they're happened with Danny boy.
His drinking problem did happen a year ago. But it's
(03:04):
so interesting is he appears to be very shocked that
it is even a topic of discussion. And I think
a large part of it has to do with the
fact that he's like, are.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
This happened a year ago, and you're waiting to tell
a fucking cannon cameras, a round with the fucking diva
light and overhead lighting and a microphone pack in our
Levi jeans.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
He's like, I'm trying to enjoy a hamburger.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
We're having hamburgers and a beer, and like, I didn't
know this conversation with and this is what happens, Like
if Jax Taylor didn't enter a mental health facility, we
would not be having this conversation right now.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Potentially, No, totally, totally, totally.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So I had to admit I was sort of caught
off guard with Jason, who was pretty much trying to
tell his boy Danny that, you know, it is kind
of a problem because Danny's like, and I'll love a flashback.
Danny's like, but that's not the message you said to
me while it is happen. And I think that this
(04:02):
is my theory. I think Janet, miss Jackson, if You're nasty,
had pillow talk with Jason, has said, look, motherfucker, when
you going that scene, I can't look crazy as the
only person who thinks Danny has a problem. I said
in the last episode, right, it was obvious.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Wait, but I mean, like, there is not a doubt
in my mind.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And by the way, if you are in a relationship
like that, you that is that kind of filter is
going to happen. You are going to be affected by
your partner. And you know, Janet is running her mouth
NonStop about the potent, like she looks at this from
ten different angles. On top of being a vander Pump
Rule's reality show fan, which I'm not bashing, but she
knows how the system works.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
So she even brings.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Up like, quote detective Doty, which is the name the
fans have given Dody over the.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Years, So she knows every which way.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And Jason, you know, he's just he's not a confident messenger.
Luke has this a little bit as well, where they're like,
in normal life, I wouldn't be doing this, but I
guess I to have this tough conversation now where Janet
runs towards a tough conversation, which is what reality stars
are supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yes, because one thing I like about miss Jackson is
the fact that Janet has never met a camera she
didn't like. You know, listen, I think it's all fair
in love and war in this case, in the Valley
and the rules of banda Pump she wants the gig.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
She is making shit happen. One thing.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
As the producer, I will say Janet is a producer's
dream because she stands on her own truth. She moves
story along, and she gives no fucks how she looks
as long as the camera's on her.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Okay, But Carlos, this is why you're perfect for This
is what my curiosity and I think this puts the
fans in this driver's seat where we're kind of swept
up in the story, but we are now in twenty
twenty five thinking about production and how you actually make
these things.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Is that Janet for the.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Most part, is universally disliked by the Brav fan base,
even me and you. I'm like, I can see what
she's doing. I can see some positive stuff. It is
moving story along. But what is that like when you're
dealing with a cast member that you know is universally
disliked and you're giving them the hot potato. How do
you encourage them or keep them in the game or
is it just their own ego that keeps themselves in
(06:18):
the game because they've always wanted this and they don't
care how they get it.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
No, that's a really good question, you have to balance
them out.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It's sort of like my study as it is a
libra you know, it's all about the tipping scales of balance,
and us libras try our best to be a balance
human being and we fell miserably at that, but we
do shout out to my libra range drops. But what
I will say is you have to balance someone out.
(06:48):
So obviously, when I worked on Atlanta Housewives in Jersey,
Kenya Moore and Danielle stob right to two totally different women,
it's something. They're there their place on this on their
respective shows, but are called a villain by the Bravo audience.
So you always try to find your best to show
(07:10):
the softer side of them, like the Sharman tissue. Let's
see the softer side of you.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So like next episode, we're gonna get a scene with
Janet and her baby potentially.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Right, yes, yes, yes, you want to be The thing
is this Janet doesn't mind doing her job, and her
job is and this is when I say job, not
that she's being a character. We all have our different
personality traits. That's true to us, right, So when I
say her job, she knows that her personality is. She
(07:41):
likes to be nosy, she likes to say what it is,
and yes, she has the propensity to understand that.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I know how TV works.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I'm a fan of it, but when you're producing someone
like Janet, you do have to rull her back sometime to.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Say, look, be messy on you want to we love
it here.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
However, let's balance you out because you don't want a
Janet to quit the show because then it's sort of
like Jackson rehaff So, who the fuck do we have
to start the pot?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, I mean that's like the big question even in
this episode, because we have the first appearance of Lala.
She know, we had an appearance of last week on
the hike with Michelle, but you know, Lala has her
scene with Jesse, and you know, my thought is is
this always planned or were they not scrambling? But like,
let's do plan B. Now that Jacks is gone for
seven episodes, let's try to protect this cast with additions,
(08:39):
even though it does in my personal opinion, it does
not need this like Lala.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I mean that's like a that's giving.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Like an easy hit to Lala, Like, oh, say something
crappy about Jesse. You can talk about narcissism and walk off,
and then Sheena, you know, jumps into the scene like
classic Sheena. But does it really need that? And and
why do they throw those things in? Was it because
of Jack's Was that always the plan?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Great question. I think it's a little bit of both. Right.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
What I'm starting to see is is this number one.
We all know that at the end of the day,
rain Drops the Valley is the quiet spinoff of Vanda
Pump Rules. It's sort of the thing that no one
wants to really talk about. It's a marketing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah yeah, well, I mean why do you why do
you think it's quiet? I mean because for me, I
just call it like vander Pump Junior, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Because people got fired for misbehaving.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh yeah, this is like vander Pump with knee problems,
like as you get older, this is what happens, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
But I totally I totally get that.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think that's the reason why
it's like this quiet spinoff, although we kind of know
what it is. So to answer your question when it
comes to La La number one, I agree with you.
I don't think we need Laala, and I'm a fan
of Laala I think the reason why she was brought back. Yes,
when it comes to Jack's you sort of need that.
That's spitfire.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Number two, you want a test to kind of see
the chemistry that a notable face has with this new
crop of people. That's number two and number three, which
to me is the most important. The way Bravo sort
of sees Housewives as like a soap opera where a
character leaves and in the world of soap opera, dies
(10:25):
off and then comes back to Like we're seeing that
for Paja Parks on Atlanta Housewives. You last saw her
season nine. She's back for season sixteen. There was a
seven year gap of no Fadra. Now that she's back,
everyone presumably is happy. So with La La, it's sort
of like, let's bring back these characters that the audience
(10:46):
familiar with. But I think the reason why we all
love the valley so much is because it's its own specialness.
And when I see La La La La to me
will always be bound the plumb rules. Kristin to me,
And when I say this here met guys, Kristin to
(11:06):
me fits way more on this show than band the
pump rules because she fits this world and to me
on Banda Pump.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Rules La La Arianna Sheena, they fit that world of
like we were Bartender, we made a bigger Hollywood in
the entertainment industry, and here we are here us roar
where I think the Valley gives me very much suburban lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, I mean don't like last episode they're moving into
their rental house, you know, in preparation of a family,
and that is very different than you know, a Jax
Taylor buying a home with Vander Pump money and then
you know, obviously you know, not paying the bills for
three months because he's living beyond its means. You know,
there's something so like earthy obviously about Dody where it's
very valley related and not star driven where Lala, you're right,
(12:01):
Like I watched that premiere of the new season of
Real Housewives in Miami which comes out in a couple
of weeks, and.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But they were like they're dressed up like superheroes the
whole time, Like they are so done up in every
scene and I loved it. But that's not the valley.
None of these people are done to the nines. I
love that, and I wouldn't even say it's aspirational, but
there is something recognizable about the valley that we.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Can relate to.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
The only thing that I would say is the glaring
issue is that in no way can we call this
truly a friend group. Like, you know, if you are
constantly talking mad you know, sahi t to everybody about
the person you should be having in the conversation with,
you would not hang out with that person eventually. So
it's like this thin tether that keeps all of these
(12:46):
people together. And that thin tether is just TV. It's
just the fact of commerce and TV.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
No, it really is, it really, it really is.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And what they're going to have to figure out is
sort of like how they can make sense for the
show to last multiple seasons with exacting.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That they're real friends.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Because again, that's the reason why I've had the pot
rules have to be recast, because it was it was
glaringly obvious that they just weren't friends. I want to
get into what you mentioned about Jackson not paying the
mortgage for three months.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Classic Jacks, by the way, classic Jacks. Well, Jackson is dangerous. Yes,
a month, three months, and Brittany was paying for the
airbnb rental on top of that, and then in this
episode he just slides it out there to Brittany that
(13:40):
he assigned a lease on a new place right next
to Tom Schwartz like and having not still paid the
rent on the actual property that they own.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Child, we are just getting started. This is reality with
the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
the show. To my female listeners, if I didn't learn
(14:14):
one thing from Teresa Judais going to prison, if you
read every document your husband putting in front of you
to sign, that's number one, but number two, know what
the fuck your husband's doing. You need to listen. I
want to see the castle check. I want to be
able to log in if you're paying a mortgage in
twenty twenty five, there's a website that you log into.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Carlo by Carlos here.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I think at this point, if something happens, we know
that Brittany and Jackson will get a full pardon. I
think with recent events, so I think they're safe. I
think they're safe. I think that's a good third season
of the Valley. Jackson Brittany get a full pardon for
any financial misdeeds. But no, you're right, it is shocking
that they live such public lives and then you realize
(15:02):
that their private lives are disastrous in some ways, but
also just the financial aspect of it, which is somewhat
aspirational to all of us of like, oh wow, they
can buy cool things. Is that is just full of
smoke as well. It's all smoke and mirrors, and that
to me is fascinating to watch the dissolution of even
though it's really painful to think about their reality.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
No, it's really painful, but it's such an asshole thing
of Jacks because at the end of the day, this
is the mother of your child.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So to risk your child being homeless.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Meanwhile, you have enough money to sign a lease to
live next door to Tom Schwartz, who isn't the babysitter,
do you know what I mean? So to need cops
decision is horrible.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
We need to siphon off all of Jackson's Cameo money
right to Brittany. It should go well, we should contact Cameo,
but it like I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
That's the thing. And even Jesse brings.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Us up to a degree too of like the daughter
or the son and these things, and it makes for good.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Clips but I'm like, where is the action.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Jackson will talk till he's blue in the face of
like I do I'm doing this for my son. I'm
doing this for my kid, and then when it comes
down to it, he doesn't do any of the things
that he knows would be good for his family and
to put his son above himself, and that never happens.
I mean, we've lived since twenty thirteen with the character
of Jax Taylor. He has not really changed that much
(16:28):
except he has new like buzzwords to speak about, and
he's able to use therapy as a protection.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You know, even in the after show, which, by the way,
the Valley After Show, I so recommend on Peacock. It's
like thirty minutes each week, but they speak and give
it more context, and he's like, yeah, I picked a
park to have that hard conversation with Brittany, and I
brought my therapist along so you know, they could back
me up in what I was doing with moving out.
I want to know what facility this man has gone to,
(16:54):
because it sounds so lax. He's able to go back home,
fiddle with the cameras to watch Brittany, He's able to
be on his phone the entire time. I don't know
a lot about the mental health industry in terms of
like rehab, but like it sounds like it's really loose.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So apparently it's not even a rehab because in real
rehab you can't leave the premises for a certain amount
of days minimumly thirty. So it's I agree with you,
it's it's I don't understand the facility he's in. I
don't understand why he's able to go to a park
and with his therapist and see his kids and they
have to go back to the to the rehab station,
(17:31):
but also am able to mess with the cameras he's
watching Brittany, telling her I know what you're wearing. It's
it's super gross and super controlling in how he's treating Brittany.
And I know Brittany isn't the favorite of the show,
but no woman deserves to be to succumb to that
(17:51):
sort of mental abuse that he's displaying with her by
telling her I'm watching you, I'm not paying the mortgage
and Beth bah blah.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Well that's I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
That's the other thing is that the audience then goes
into production mode of like, how does a producer determine
when it's too far? Like obviously they helped or forced
him into this facility in the first place, you know,
because they were filming with him.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
It went too far.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
But when somebody is doing this many things like where
is the point where it does cross this.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Line of like we can't work with you. These are threats, even.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Though you're saying they are not, it does get to
a scary place. Like last episode Lala and the after
show or no, maybe it was Lalla's podcast or something
was saying listen, I told Brittany to get out of
there because I thought she was gonna get hurt if
she didn't. And I was like, now we're talking or
insinuating physical violence.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
In twenty twenty five, reality shows, as you know, have
changed so much in terms of like what behavior actually
is acceptable. And I think a lot of behavior obviously
is still acceptable. But where as a producer, I mean,
we've seen it with James Kennedy, We've seen it with
all of these people. Where do you draw that line
and still worry about the overall health of the show.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I think it's something where Brittany has to say out
loud to them she feels unsafe, right because at the
end of the day, they're not paying for the house
we need.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
The production is Brittany's house. It's her situation.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So if she feels unsafe in her own home, the
only thing a production can do.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And I'm not a lawyer, but I just base his office.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Being a producer is sort of making sure the crew
is not in the house, making sure she has resources
to live other places, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
But first thing first, she has.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
To vocalize it, because you don't want to step into
someone's reality and alter it, because God forbid, if you
do that, something else could happen. And it's because you
remove somebody from their normal behavior and you're placing them
in the hands of something else where. They didn't ask
(19:58):
for you to do that, so it is very tricky.
But first thing first, Brittany has to first say this
and explain to them why apparently that hasn't happened yet. Now,
look in Jackson Fence, they're having verbo spats that we've
seen across all of these shows.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I want to make that very clear.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Nothing has gone physical, at least from what Brittany has said,
all of it just appears to be this asshole of
a husband she has who is doing asshole shit. And
at the end of the day, there's tons of assholes
who are on all across reality television for being that.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
But and that's not criminal, and that's not criminal.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
That is not criminal to be an asshole, whether you're
a male or female. Brittany safe word needs to be Bravo, Bravo,
effing bravo with production, like, if she feels safe, just
throw that out there and they've got Brittany.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
But I will say also, like do we need Jax Taylor, Like,
you know.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Obviously he's not coming back. I think till episode ten,
the show is sailing along without him. And of course
we have these little like Blair Witch camera things you know,
of him checking in, but we don't necessarily.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Need that because we get it. I mean, it will
be necessary.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It will be definitely exciting when he comes back to
see how he tries to maneuver within the framework that's
been set up after he left. And you'll, you know
that if anything, it's like I thought this was Sandobal
as well, is that the only thing they truly love
is themselves and the show. Like Jackson's like big argument
with Britney leaving was that you took my dream for
me and his dream sadly enough, was to get back
(21:32):
on reality television.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
He said that.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, they talked about it more on the after show too.
Was that he was like Brittany was like he.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Said, he I took his dream away from him and
how dare I do this? Because you know, she was
the one.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I think that maybe tipped off production, that it was
in a really bad place because remember he threw the
chair that we saw the broken chair of in that
first or second episode. Yeah, well the king, the King
has paused.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Wow, well Beth.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
So I mean, look, when it comes to Jack's, I
think what we have seen is the show must go on.
I tell everybody all the time, everyone is replaceable. No
matter how iconic you are, you are replaceable. When it
comes to Jack's, Look, the storyline is still alive without
him being there because he's misbehaving. Wherever he is child rehab.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Or he's a David Busters Janet loves.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It, Okay, Yeah, so wherever he's at, the stories alive.
And I think a lot of it has to do
with what his behavior is at this upcoming reunion that
they already shot weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
But as of now, as of now, the.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Season is great without him, and listen, as a reality star,
that's not what you want to hear.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Well, this show is like the Little Engine that could,
because when it came on, we were all like, who
needs this show?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I'm not going to watch this show, And then it
turned out to be great.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And then you lose cast members like Jacks and things
like that, and it still works, and it works in
this kind of mess of a way where I was noticing,
you know, I say this every week or every day
of like this show is so dark, but I don't
say it in a negative way.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
That's what I've signed up to watch.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Like, if I want to go watch lighthearted drama, I'll
go to Summerhouse or another show. But if I want dark,
there are so there's such darkness, like.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It truly is.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Like I said at the very last episode of The Valley,
We're gonna find out that it was actually they were
in hell the whole time. It'll be like, oh, this
was actually hell. Oh that's why they kept saying it
was so hot in the Valley. It's in the hell
because it is any way you cut it. And then
on top of it, they have kids. So when they
show the kids like Isabella or something, it really like
floors you because you're like, oh my god, we never change.
(23:41):
We never change. We only just make like small adjustments
to our lives. And I'm curious to see Jesse Lalley
next season, like because you can almost forgive certain aspects,
like he had that great talking head of like, Okay,
she is a liar and a cheater, but maybe I
shouldn't have said whore, you know, Like he's still with
those two things. So I'm curious what his behavior is
(24:02):
like a year from now, once the actual anger and
resentment dissipates, if it ever does, to see who Jesse
really is, Like is he a villain? Is he a
bad guy? Or is he somebody that like really misjudged
actions in a relationship and lost something that he never
thought he would lose. But he's not like vindictive in
(24:23):
the entirety of his life.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
He gives me like this bad boy who really tries
to do right, but he's battled between both worlds.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
So Charlae, wait, wait, Carlos, would you ever, wait, would
you ever send Jesse Lalley twenty five hundred dollars Venmo
for his birthday? Would you ever send him money.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
If I was a girl? No?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I mean remember that was on the episode a couple
of weeks ago, is that we found out get a
gay man sent him money, and then they repealed it
was twenty five hundred dollars on his birthday, and I
was like, that's a great friend.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, as a gay man, I think another straight well,
as a gay man sending a straight man twenty five
hundred dollars, I'm not doing that under any circumstance.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
If I'm a girl and I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Sitting this hot guy, twenty five hundred dollars is because
I want them.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So, guys, everybody, Benmo requests Carlos today, twenty five hundred dollars.
Everybody everybody listening, ring drops. Benmo requests Carlos.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You can find me under my government name. I'm teasy.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I did think that was strange, but nothing to me
was more stranger than Kristen claiming that Jason doesn't wear
his bread his wedding ring because he's up to something
no good. And then we have messy as Zach, who
I love, by the way, who is telling Christ and
obviously Christ is in her villain era and she's owning it.
(25:50):
She's like, you fuck with Nia, I'm a fuck with you.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
But she says she's ethereal.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
She's an ethereal villain like she was, so she was
a different form of villain on vander Pump Rules, and
now she's like mother villain, like Mother Earth, mother villain.
Like it's almost spiritual in the way that she's a
villain on the Valley, which is very different. But this
is what I'm talking about is that it is like
it's like a separate government agency where they're all keeping
files on each other and then they choose when to
(26:17):
reveal the information and show their cards. And so this
rumor about Jason Caperna about the wedding ring went back
like a year and a half or something, and she said,
I don't like what they're doing to Nia and Danny,
so I'm gonna put this card on the table, and Janet,
you know, really laughed that off immediately. Jason was like,
oh my god, thank god, it's just that I thought
it was going to be something different, But no, that's
(26:39):
not true at all, And I just thought it's one
of those other things if you really stop and think
about it, of like, why are we not having these
conversations when it's revealed? And by the way, shout out
to Jasmine as well. A lot of this stuff seems
to be coming from Jasmine, which I'm like, has anybody
talked with Jasmine about why she doesn't actually talk directly
to people and just really has the power behind people's backs,
(26:59):
which I find interesting to explore. But yeah, I mean,
I think this is typical Dody, but just in a
new a new age Dody, which I'm here for.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
But then you have Janet.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You have two people, and Janet realizes the power of Dody,
and Janet almost aspires to be Doty like and Dody.
You know, Doty has had a new level of respect
the last three years, but I remember a time when
people were really against Doty, so it's interesting to see
her come into her power and Janet really wants want
that power. So if you watch this show of like
(27:31):
a Battle for Power, it's another additional way to enjoy
the show because they're all making these weird chess moves.
If you look into it and Janet has studied from
past seasons of Doty, so she's like I knew Dody
would make this move and I knew and you're like, god,
this is so calculated, Like you know, they all have binders,
Like that's what I want if anybody has Janet's binder
(27:53):
of information to use, I mean, that would be better
than Monique's receipts from Potomac.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Like we need find her.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes, what are your thoughts of Jasmine?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Because she is sort of under the radar, sort of
like you know, discussing things like Danny's you know, lack
of sobriety sort of moving things around, but she's still
very much isn't as she's not as in the forefront
(28:24):
of everything the way Kristen is. Why is that you
think is that purposeful of Jasmine being very smart in
terms of let me drop it and then hide my hands.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
What do you feel?
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I mean, what we have like this?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I mean we now know that Jasmine obviously is a
reality show veteran. She was on Nick Vile season of
The Bachelor. You know, she knows her way around the
credit camera. I think at one point she was about
to be on BANDR Pump Rules and it didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Years and years ago.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I like that they have natural friendships with these people,
like I can attest that that is completely real. The
thing with her, I think maybe this is also a
production of using her at like key moments, like she's
key in the evidence portion of Danny, the persecution of Danny,
and you can't take away her experience with her girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
That has to be horrific.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And what I love about Jasmine was that concept that
I was unfamiliar with, of man, you don't understand a
lesbian relationship.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
We are fetishized. We are you know, we come in.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
People are not respecting us in the way you do
with the straight relationship. And that thought was so foreign
to me, and I was like, oh, wow, you're actually
I'm learning something from this. But she is just as
messy as the rest of them. And when the show
chooses to highlight that mess like we're seeing her talk
about you know, she started the Jason stuff like texting
(29:41):
Zach and Janet, like she seems to be in that
kind of Janet Kaperna lane where they really do disc
collect information and talk mad shit about everybody, even if
you're friends with them. And so I think Jasmine is
going to be a key player in Seasons to come.
You know, Zach does it in a comedia like there's
all a commune. But Jasmine also gets the angriest talking
(30:04):
about a situation after the person she's angry with has left,
like Nia last week. You know, they had this conversation
like and Nia's like, I just don't want you to
do it behind my back and da da da, and
she's like They're all like great, and then Nia leaves
and everybody's like She's like, what I don't like about
Nia is this? And Danny did this, and she got
all fiery, and I'm like, where was that fire when
(30:25):
Nia was there?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Sorry, I get wait too into this, Carlow. So I'm like, now, good.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Point, listen, Ryan, points are made.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
So I'm with you there.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
When you saw Jason come front Kristen about you know,
him not wearing his wedding ring, I'm kind of on
Jason's side. I don't think he's doing it maliciously. I
don't think he's trying to cheat on Janet.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I just you know, I think Kristen is definitely just
trying to like something happen.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I think it fell flat.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Well, it's in.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's in like that Jesse Lallely on the first first
episode of like, did you start that fight about Newport
Beach on purpose to bother her?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
And he's like, yeah, of course, Like Dody is like.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That, and Dody says that admittedly, if you f with somebody,
I like, I'm going to come for you. And so
this information has been in their back pocket for a minute.
Even Luke was like, I don't know if you should
be doing. I always love like people like Luke and
Jason that are like, yo, this isn't like the reality showed.
This isn't good for our souls in a like a way,
(31:29):
like you can just tell there's like trouble, you know.
So they're always really tentative. Even in the confrontations or
Jason having to talk to Danny, you can tell they
probably really stress. It natural for Dody and it just
rolls off the tongue. But I don't think I think
Jason obvious. I don't think Jason did anything. I truly
think this was a rumor. But also the show will
(31:50):
suss this out. Like the show, the show will uncover
any sort of criminal activity.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
You just have to give it time.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I don't think Jason's doing any What I did like
towards the end of the episode was obviously not only
Britney sharing with the group what her and jacksonre going through.
I did like the fact that we had Tom Schortz
making appearance at the end of the episode.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It was like, his whole career is listening to people
complain about his best friends.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Like, that's his whole career at this point.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, that upon is all about Sandoval, and on this show,
it's all about Jack's. Brittany is confiding at him about
what has been going on, and Shorts just seems to
be like, look, I don't know what this has to
do with me.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's your husband. I feel bad this is happening to you.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
But the since I got from Schwartz is that's not
going to prevent me from being this guy's friend.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Oh yeah, so what are we doing here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I mean there is a boy's code, there's a boy's chat,
there's all of these you know, you talk about girls code,
there is guys code. And at this point, if Schwartz
has not left Jack's, and Schwartz is not left sand
he's never going to leave.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
And I'm not saying.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
He's like, you know, he's an abused friend, but he
is so used to Jack's behavior that I think they're
all desensitized to it. Like Brittany, like everything's coming out
about Jacks from like the previous ten years of their relationship,
and everybody's super aware of all of the things he's done.
But Jack's has some sort of I don't know if
(33:23):
it's star quality or charisma where everybody's like yeah, because
I was like you in person, he must just be
so sincere that you can't help but like almost feel
bad for him or just go, well.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
He's been good to me. He's been good to me,
and that seems to be that lane that Jax lives in.
But yeah, I would love Even on the after show,
Schwartz has paired up with Jesse and Jacks and Schwartz
even this week's episode was just like I hate to play,
you know, like I hate to be like negative about this,
but like, you know, if you took care of Brittany,
(33:56):
that would kind of be taking care of your son, right,
And it's just like, dude, you have to talk to
Jack's like he's a child because you're scared that he's
gonna be angry at you, so you have to present
your argument, which is the right argument of taking care
of your son in such a delicate way. And I don't,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
There's a mystery to Jacks that I don't think is
worth uncovering. But it's just in mystery how he's gotten
this far doing the same behavior again and again and again.
He's putting out the same album every year.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, yeah, which is why it was interesting to see
the highlight of bringing a Jack sort of montage at
the end.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
You know, sometimes I'm like, why don't they just do
a full hour of montage, Like there are so many
clips that you could pull from Jack's on vander Pump Rules,
which they have all the footage of, and like even
the never before seen stuff, like you would just do
a super cut or do like a power hour for
frat people to drink to of Like every minute you
see a new Jack's angry, Jack's are arguing Jack's upset
(34:54):
and you have like this entire history, Like that's why
it's like open the schools. We have these ink of
past Bravo shows to study and it's the same behavior
and it's the same thing. You know, he'll call it
work in progress or he'll call it something new.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
And at the end of the day, I do want
Jacks to be okay.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I just don't know if reality shows are like overall
good mentally. I know financially they're good, but I get
That's why I'm like, the Valley could get darker. You know,
we think it's dark now, it could get way darker.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, And I'm hoping it doesn't because listen, it was
another great episode. I really do enjoy this show because
it's not about the fluff and the pompous circumstance, the money,
the riches and all of that. It really is about
this group of people who live in this certain part
of California and they're trying to figure things out.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
And I like the fact that.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
It just feels way more normal than, like you said,
on Miami Housewives or any Housewives by that matter, which
is about the riches and everything else that I described earlier.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
So I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I hope it doesn't get dark, And I think I
just hope that each of these cast members take a
page out of what did not work towards the end
of Vanda Pump Rules and they don't allow to happen
to them.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
And what would you in your opinion, what happened to
vander pump Rules. Was it just the.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
They Oh, for sure, they drank the kool aid and
everybody thought they were the Beyonce of the show. Everybody
thought that they did not have to give as much
reality as they normally would. They got comfortable just becoming
people that we didn't recognize anymore because they became guarded
because listen and listen, no blank to them, right, there's
(36:45):
no instruction manual that one has. The moment you come
from obscurity to being on a hit show. You know,
they were once waiters and waitresses and hosts and hostesses,
and all of a sudden they're out of their apartment
and they're living in multi million dollar homes in West
Hollywood at the time. So it does something to your psyche.
(37:09):
But you always got to keep your eyes on the prize,
and that's why you don't look. Kyle isn't having the
best seasons for the past couple of seas. Julie Hills
Kyle Richard's, but she's the only standing o g on
that show because she understands the importance of the show
(37:30):
and her role, and I want everybody else to be
that way. The same thing with Giselle Bryant, the same
thing with or I'll even give you another example of
what not to do. Don't do what Jersey did. Don't
don't divide the cast, and don't develop an ego like
stick it strictly to this is working and let's not
(37:55):
mess up with the formula.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Well, I mean to your point.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I just rewatched season two of Real Housewives Beverly Hills
because I was talking about the valley being so dark.
And then I went back and watched season two of
realized I was a Beverly Hills and I was like, oh
my god, forget what I say about the valley.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
That season of Beverly Hills was insanely dark.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
You had the coming off of Kyle, you know, calling
Kim an alcoholic. You had the tailor Armstrong stuff. And
by the way, I was drinking, don't watch these shows
while you drink wine.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Because then I.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Bought a used edition of Kyle Richard's Life is Not
a Reality Show. I was like, I gotta, I gotta,
I gotta dig into this, I gotta, I gotta check out.
And you got a little Porsche there on the cover,
and I like, I bought a US copy, that's how
desperate I was. But there is something too, like watching
Old Kyle at how they used to produce that show
(38:43):
and New Beverly Hills. It's so different than that second season,
and so that's why I think The Valley works. It's
like the second season of Beverly Hills, where it is
you sense a reality there, you sense a struggle that
sometimes with other Housewives iterations, you don't sense a struggle
at a certain point, even though you know it's there,
we're just not seeing it.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
And the Valley you see it.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And I also hope they don't podcasts because they all
have podcasts and they all have you know. But I
think it's one of those shows that I really look
forward to each week, and even though it shouldn't work,
it completely works. I just don't know how you keep
that momentum going. And that's why I'm like always so
fascinated to talk to you, because I'm like, you know
(39:25):
the inner workings of how this stuff is made, and
you know, it's like you can blame it at it,
you can blame this, but at the same time we
are seeing a version of actual reality of their lives.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, we are, we are, we are,
and that's why for me, I just want them to
stick to what it works.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
And I think based on how Jason I'm not Jason,
how Jesse Lally came across a likable in my interview.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Somebody's got a cross on Jesse. You guys, somebody's a.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Question on Jesse.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Do not tell Jesse check check yes or no. Jesse.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
There's a certain producer slash podcaster, slash entrepreneur that wants
to that likes you. Are you interested to hand back
this note to Bravo HQ by five o'clock on Friday.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Regardless if I have a crush or Jesse or not,
I'm not giving him twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Can we get it down to twelve hundred? Jesse? Jesse,
if you're listening, can we can we get it down?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
We do want to support, like I'll even pitch it
a couple bucks, But like a.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Ryan, am I blushing anyway?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
All I'm saying Ryan is Jesse showed me that he's
a work in progress.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
And what I want for all of the cast is
to be a work in progress.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, but Carlos have we just like taken all the
power out of the phrase work in progress because we've
seen Jacks try for thirteen years, so it's like you're
all in no saying, but like when you say you're
a work in progress on a Bravo reality show, it's
attributed to Jack's and then like it almost kind of
like cuts you at the knees of like, oh right, yeah, okay,
(41:15):
well I'll know it when I see.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
It, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I mean, Laala was able to brush Jesse off like
like you know, they gave Lala that easy layup with which,
by the way, kind of a dumb move overall with
La La because it's like, yeah, you want that moment,
but if you are trying to audition for a space
on the valley, you can't just cut people off like that.
It's good for the moment, but that's all it is
is a moment, and then it makes it reminds people
(41:38):
of what they didn't like about her on the last
season of vander Pump Rules instead of maybe a different
side of La La that we haven't seen, if there
is one, because you know, what is like the feeder
system is house of villains traders like you know what,
other whatever, other reality shows that there's a feeder system
from this one. So I do wonder sometimes about these
(41:59):
people if they feel pressure to try to get more
on the valley.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah, no, awkward.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
I think La LA's choice should have been to not
give what's expected, and it would have been a nice
surprise for us to see her still be La La
and spicy. But I think that she was very aggressive
and that's why Jesse gave her nothing.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Because he knew she was auditioning.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Yeah, so you.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Want to get popped, let's go. Also, I mean, if
she was smart, she would have tried to make out
with Jesse. Don't get jealous, Carla, don't get jealous. Don't
don't get upset. Carlos God, it's okay, he loves you,
but like you gotta let him. You gotta let him cook.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
You know, ah rot I to talk to you on
that you are so.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
I know you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I know I overtalk, but I get so sad because
I know we're like probably at the end of this,
and I'm like, oh, I just love I love talking to.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Carlos so much, soy please, I love our banter. I really,
really do.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Thank you so much for coming into roality with the King,
but you have your own very hugely, wildly successful podcast.
And I, first of all not sure if I mentioned
this to you. Maybe I did, but I'll do it
again if I did. I really enjoyed your integration with
The Valley by the way, oh thank you yea from
(43:16):
only getting in.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
The car and oh yeah, I did the Valley Van,
which I mean, talk about being scared out of my mind.
I was in a car with Jax, Jesse and Schwartz
and you know, I've talked mad shit about Jack's for
years and like, at the end of the day, I
do want him to be okay, but it's like we
talk about these reality shows and you do, like I
make jokes about it, like I'm critical about it. But
he was like, do you talk shit about me? And
(43:37):
I was like, I've had some opinions over the years,
like I thought I was gonna and the dudes put
on like fifteen pounds of muscle. But he was actually
a super fun experience and in that way, they were
all like nice guys, you know when you're dealing with
them in that kind of situation. But it was like
Jack's just kept saying, it's the it's the worst year
of my life. This has been the worst year of
my life. And Schwartz was kind of making fun of
(43:57):
him in the backseat of like, oh, you're working PRIs.
Oh you know, it's like it's it was. I felt
like I was on an acid trip. I was like,
there is no way I'm in this car with these
three men right now.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Well I've joined it. I joined it.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
But let my Raindoss know where the kids support subscribe.
Oh yeah, and like your podcasts, Yeah, it's called so
Bad It's good. We do shows pretty much like every day.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
There's a Patreon as well, but we cover like Valley
in Summerhouse and I'll do huge recaps of that.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
We do a pop culture round up.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I had the director of that new Sherry Peppini, uh
four part docu series that was insane. We just had
Philip Solomon from Dealer No Deal Island. Who's actually you
would love Philip Solomon. He was He was so good
on today's episode. But yeah, there's different guests every week,
so it's interview, pop culture and recap. So if you
ever want something, it's always there, but no pressure at
(44:47):
all to check it.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Out rain Drops. Check it out if you have it,
I know you have, but just check it out.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
If you haven't.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
For those who did it, subscribe to like it. It's
very diverse in terms of what he's talking about with
these shows, and he gives. As you all can tell
based on this episode. He has such passion when it
comes to these episodes, so it's always good to know
that the person you're listening to loves it just just
as much as we love listening to it.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
So yeah, that's it. I mean, it really is about love.
Like at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
I we know that sounds so cheesy, but it's like, God,
I just feel so lucky to be able to talk
about this stuff and whatever I can do to like
keep doing this.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
I'm just thrilled.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Like I never thought I would talk to you one day,
Like I remember five years ago knowing who you were
and going, oh man, I'll never so like stuff like this.
I always feel like it's like this make a wish foundation.
So it's awesome. I just really appreciated.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
I love that. No, this is great. This is great.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
We'll love to have you back.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
On and rain Drops.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Check out his podcast.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Please good luck with Jesse, dude, let me get let
me get my cash appen zel together.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Ryan, Bye, dude.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
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