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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welc up to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
the King of Reality TV and one of the most
sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable
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moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Mia Thornton, affectionately.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Created by me Mia b Lyon, the name Mia b
Lyon is flying away from Potomac and she has landed
in Atlanta, Georgia. So Mia said on her Instagram this morning,
Dustin and Claudia that.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Let me finish.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm not laughing, doesn't I'm listen in a very listen
on a serious note, Mia thor decided to move to Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
She went from the back of the plane to the
front of the trap. You know, I love you. Mia
has flown, Mia, I love you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Mia has flown on frontier and decided to land in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And we wish Mia the best, Dustin and Claudia. I
was very.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Saddened by the news, although not surprised and I'll get
into that after Dustin and Claudia share their stories, because
I want them to go first. But how do y'all
feel about Mia be Lyon not being able to be
in Potomac and not on the show anymore.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I feel like Claudia needs to go first. She was
a housewife, Like you need to go first, Claudia, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
What's your expert opinion.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
My love?
Speaker 6 (02:04):
I don't care.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
Is that bad? I think now that? I mean, I know,
Carlos you're a big fan of hers. I thought she
was interesting, you know the part that I did see
that she brought some shit that she got that you know,
that whole thing with the husband, the baby daddy, well
the other guy and all that shit. Maybe she'd go
on to Atlanta Housewives now and she and brinc Her
and brit can be like bessies because I kind of
see them like I could see like them kind of
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like vibing a little bit.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Now, you so okay?
Speaker 7 (02:30):
So Justin you like you can't stand her for the show,
and Carlos you're a huge fan, right, yes, yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:39):
And so Justin you're happy about this.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Carlos, you're devastated about this because you think she's a big,
big star.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I don't want to say I'm happy about her leaving
the show right, because that sounds I don't know. I'm
not happy about her leaving the show, But I think
she made the right choice to leave the show.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Right.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
We did not have a chance to connect to me
in an authentic way from day one. She was on
some fake ass shit being on this show day one
her first season, the relationships never seemed authentic. She would
be close with Karen one season, not close with her
the next season. She had these relationships this season, not
these relationships that season. She would overlook things that would
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be deemed egregious from Gazelle, but because she was trying
to be friends with her, it just was all over
the place. There was never an authentic representation of who
the fuck Miah Thornton was on this show. And that's
why people like me who have been watching this show
from day one missed her right. We missed the connectivity
moment when it came to me. Carlos has a very
specific lens that he sees the shows through as a producer.
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He recognizes and appreciates things that he can pull from
her as a producer that I may not see and
be able to thus appreciate. Right, However, based on what
I seen, beat it, you know what I'm saying. I
hate to be like that, but you can go on
and roll down the street. I also think that we
need to kill this stigma feeling like your career is over.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
If you don't work on The Housewives of whatever CD anymore,
it's not the end of your work and entertainment and
media if you so choose to pursue a path as such. Right,
she just ain't on that show no more, and maybe
other shows will be a better fit for her, Maybe
other opportunities will come her way that you know the
great things about me, It can be showcased and platformed
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and lauded and celebrated. Right, But I was tired of
watching her on the Housewives. I felt bad for her husband, Gordon.
You know, when do we ever feel bad for the
damn husband? That's how you know we have departed from
whoever we're supposed to be paying attention to at the time.
And it was Mia, So I've been told y'all, I
felt like she was all over the place and doing
some wild, dirty shit this season that this past season,
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it was not her best moment. While I think that
she brought a lot to the show and she could
still be there, I don't think that she needed to go.
But I'm glad I don't have to see her in
inc doing like this, you know what I'm saying, for
another season?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Just glad I don't have to see that.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Is there any argument to be made though, Like you
know how you describe and everything.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
I mean, there's people that.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Are on TV that are like that, that lie a
lot and can't keep track of dates and all kinds
of things and creick cases and you know what I'm saying,
wealth and like that's kind of like a staple in
the reality world, Like there's like you and I have like.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Someone on the show like that.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
I could see why Carlos would be enamored with her
being good for a show, because you got to every
franchise needs like a villain.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
They need the person that they kind of go in on.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
They need the hot mess if they all had it together,
Like can you see it for that for can you
see it for her for that alone?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
For bringing kind of a little bit of a mess.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You know, I'm an old school Claudia you know that.
I don't give a fuck about the messy shit. I
think it's disgusting that people go over into looking up shit.
I don't like all that. I just want to be
entertained by what I see on the show. And to me,
you're a one trick pony. If that's all you got.
You got to be able to be Yeah, okay, if
you're willing to maybe say something that everybody's thinking and
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not willing to say, that does add value to the
show and to the viewers experience.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But that can't be all you got.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
You gotta you have to be you have to to
have something substantive At some point, I honestly could watch
a show with no drama and just a bunch of
fly ass motherfuckers winning their life and feel like, Wow,
this is a purview into what I want in life.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I could enjoy that.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I don't have to see people saying something and I
don't have to have all that.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You know what I'm saying to me, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
And I also do not because I still watch Zeus,
I watch Baddies, I watch now That's TV. I watch
all that shit, So there's an appetite there when it's
that time. But that's not why I watch fucking Real Housewives,
you know what I'm saying. So it's different, there's different levels.
And to me, if you if all you have is
doing something that people consider shocking and you know, riding that,
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to me, you fizzle out fast. That's not that's not
sustainable in the television and entertainment landscape.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Man.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
You know that because you've been working for a long time.
Claudia Carlos, you too, y'all know what it takes to
continue to stay afloat. I am entertained, but it takes more.
And to me, when you got kids on TV saying
to you, you don't need to marry mister Ink and
you know and one and Gordon is crashing out in
real time, to me, there needs to be a reset
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of some sort. And maybe her exit this season, maybe
that's her reset. I wish me of the best. I
think that she has a great personality for entertainment. She's
got a willingness to add entertainment value to whatever projects
she's a part of, and that can look like success hopefully.
I saw her doing some things in radio with Ink,
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the guy that she was fucking around on Gordon with
or whatever. Hopefully they see success with that, have shows
and she's able to pivot into broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You know what I'm saying. Who knows?
Speaker 5 (07:53):
I want that for her, but I just was less
than impressed with what she offered to the Real Housewives
of Potomac.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
So that's where la. So I'm so by.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay, Well Hi Dustin, Hello, how are you.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (08:10):
So?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
This is this is this is my This is.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Carlos King's take. Unpopular maybe, but this is my real
take when Mia first, When Mia Thornton first got on
the show, Claudia, you don't watch a lot of the
of the reality shows.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You're a busy woman.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
I'm starting to now though because of this though, like
I am stunning.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but no, I'm want to go back
in terms of telling you how she appears and me
and Dustin Dustin will know this. Mia Thornton's first scene
was all casting. Karen Huger bought her two Wendy's event,
and she talked about how much botok she had.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
She talked about her.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Vagina being redone rejuvenated, you know, bbl nip and tuck
here and there, and it was this pretty girl being
so self deprecating, and I was like, oh my gosh,
she's a star because I appreciated the fact that she
came on her first scene pretty much saying I'm gonna
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tell all my shit and it is what it is, right,
and we the audience appreciated. I went on record saying,
what we're watching right now is a star, like she
is a star. MIA's first couple of seasons, whether it
was throwing the salad at Candace in response to Candas
calling her feet big, or whatever it was, she had
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a lot of momentum, right Mia thor in first couple
of seasons, she had a lot of momentum because she
didn't take it too seriously. She wasn't investigating anybody. She
wasn't spreading rumors about someone's husband, she wasn't.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Digging dirt on people.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
She came in the scene, she was who she was,
and she kept in movement and she made and she
made you laugh, and I was into it. I did
say that Mia was the future of Potomac, and I.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Stand by it.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I stand by the fact that her earlier seasons she
had all of the ingredients to be the future of Potomac.
I think what happened with Mia on some real shit,
and that's why I started calling her Mia Blyon. I'm
the one for the record people, I coined Mia Blyon
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and Claudia. That made it on the reunion stage where
Kenda said, well, the folks call you Mia b Lyon,
and everybody said, the folks is Carlos king like he
gave her that he loves her, but he acknowledges Mia Blyon.
So what happened with Mia She started to become a
caricature of herself. And one thing that happens on reality
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television that I know for a fact, when some reality
stars start seeing what the audience responds to, they start
to become that character. I'm the villain, I'm the dits,
I'm the shady queen whatever. They start to become the
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moniker in which the audience herolds them on. And I
think the mistake that Mia made is she fell into
the tropes of what we all thought was interesting and
to be given the first cheek, to be given the
first seat at the reunion twice consecutively, back to back seasons.
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Not only did I feel that way, evidently your bosses
felt that way. To let's have a real conversation. I
felt that way. I don't work on the show, and
clearly by design, because I know how that show works.
Your bosses felt the same way that this woman is
the future of the show. I think the biggest mistake
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Mia made and this is something I said to her,
so I'm not talking about her behind her back. The
biggest mistake my girl made was leaving the Reunion stage building.
Not just leaving the stage in your dressing room and
calling your publicist, you know, because that's what some of
these girls do. Honey, she left the building, and the
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moment she did that, I knew.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Because I know how this works. I was like, this
isn't great.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's not great for you, and I think it goes
to show you and Claudia all will love to get
your thoughts on this, because you've been in the business
for thirty years. Everybody wants to be the star. A
lot of people don't have what it takes to handle that.
When you are the star, the eyeballs are on you,
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the attacks come. People love you, people hate you, and
you have to be okay with both. Okay not everyone's
gonna fuck with you, and you got to be You
gotta live with that, people are going to try to
tear you down. You got to accept that that's the
fake when you are the star.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I love Mia.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I think if Mia had to do this all over again,
I think Mia will say to you that crown was
heavy and I wasn't ready to carry it.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
You know a lot of people think that, like if
they've had some success in they've done pageants, or they modeled,
or they did some acting, or they had some kind
of foot in the door of entertainment, that they're going
to be totally fine when they do reality television. I
had a conversation with Mike Hill about this when he
first started dating Cynthia and he was going to be
on Housewives.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
I said, Mike, do not mess up.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
Be on your p's and q's, because this is different
than anything you've ever been through. He says, Girl, I've
been on TV for a long time.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I go yes.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
As a sports reporter, it is a totally different fan base.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
It's a totally different pressure.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
People that watch your sports broadcasts are not going to
dig in and watch your tweets and see who's pills
you're liking, to see if you're doing anything shady. I said,
this will be the biggest invasion of your privacy that
you've ever had in your life. And it's I promise you,
nothing will prepare you for this. It's nothing like that.
And everyone and he said it, even he talks about this.
He goes, man, I was wrong, you know. I was like,
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I got it. I got it, and he goes, I
didn't have it and I wasn't prepared for what comes
with it. So to your point, yes, people do want
to be the star, but I encourage you all that
do reality TV.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Don't try to be the star.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Be a good team player and people will see where
you are and they will lift you, like we're doing
with Angela right now. She's not trying to be the star.
And just by being authentic in your space where you're
just chilling, you will get the attention you want. But
when you going hot, yes, when you go in hot
like a Brits who could have just sat back and
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chilled and let the star come to her, you burn
yourself out.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
When you're doing that.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
You know, you just go and you'll get a moment.
You'll be in a dinner scene and something will happen
in the the way you react will make people talk
about you ten years later for something you said. But
when you go in there trying so hard, lying and forcing,
trying to put a square peg in a round hole,
the viewers are not dumb and they see through it,
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and then they turn people off. So I would just say, like,
you go in there and just you do your thing
and just be you. And I do believe that it
is very hard. It's easier said than done, because what
do we do Every week? We go look at the comments.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Oh, they said, my nose looks big, maybe I should
get it surgery.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Oh my lips are small. They're saying, I don't have
many lips. Let me go get a little injection. And
before you know it, five years later, you don't even
look like the person that you started in this field.
And you can't really love yourself if you made a
whole new self.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Which is why I stay my ass out them comments,
because I don't give a fuck you know.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
What I'm saying. I say what I have to say.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I stay out the comments, and honestly, it's from a
place to respect. Thank god, people watching are even implored
or moved to leave a comment, right they we don't
have to agree with what they're saying in the comment,
but I just feel like that's the space for the commenters,
and I stayed the hell up out of there because
I just want to keep.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
My head clear.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
But yeah, so seey Amiya, that's all I got to say.
See Yamiya, that's it.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, I want to I want to get you guys this.
So the final thing with Mia, Mia left mea comment
and I want to read it to you, Dustin and Claudia.
So when she announced her departure, I did say to her,
like Mia with a crying emoji, and Mia responded and
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what she said to me is this I know in
all caps, but you know, the saying go where you
are valued.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Well, even that prime example of the shit that's gotten
on my nerves.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
You know what I'm.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Saying, All these goddamn these these these coded, cryptic messages
and shit, that's that's been.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Very irritating with her.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Who what are you saying they didn't give you the
money you wanted for the next season? Are you saying
that the production company and the network? To me, that
just extends the conversation way beyond what we're watching on screen.
And that's a huge part of the problem, right with
the reality television escape right now, whatever kind of end
windows you make in mama, whatever you whatever business you know,
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miss misalignments you're referencing in this this conversation and shit,
put a handle on it, put a name on it. Otherwise,
don't say anything because she's just gonna said, I know,
it's been great, thankful that happened. You know what I'm saying.
You don't have to And I think valued was all
caps right, like you're you're bringing attention to that messy piece,
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and I think that's what the problem is.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
So I do get, though, I will say from experience
a little bit of experience that nothing can prepare you
for it, right. And you may go in with all
the good intentions. I think Kenya when I went the
best intentions, but when you get there and you're not
received the way people you think you're coming off. And
there's an exercise I did with this class. It's kind
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of like called Landmark Educational IT Team, but we had
to do an exercise to see like what people receive
from you or how they see you versus how you
see yourself.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
And it was very very mind blowing. Damn.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
I thought I was coming off so warm and welcoming
and friendly, but the response I got from the people
wasn't what I see myself.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
And then you start doing woe with me?
Speaker 7 (18:33):
And I think that I get people a little bit
of grace with that because I do see how that
can happen. You're like, because when you know someone, no,
that person's really fun, but what they did in that
scene isn't what they usually do, and now you're judged
by that for ten fifteen years and people hate you
over it. It's very frustrating to keep explaining yourself and
people not getting to like you're not feeling like they're
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seeing you for who you really are. But I think
a lot of us outside of reality TV just in
life had that issue where we think I'm not giving
restling bitch face. I think I look so happy, but
you're really not right. There's a huge difference with a
lot of humans with what they think they're putting out
there and how people are seeing you. And that's something
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to just keep in mind, whether you're doing reality or
just in life.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
And I get how you get frustrated when you're.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Like in the comments and you're I'm gonna go where
I'm celebrated because you feel like no matter what I do,
They're I'm going to see me for how I see myself,
and I don't know if that's a therapy thing. It's
very hard to self evaluate though from most people.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I get it, and I try not to judge because
being under that microscope is hell, you know what I'm saying,
especially on that level of scrutiny and all the other shit.
So I get it. You know, she wasn't my favorite
cast member. I ain't never made no mistake about you know,
or hid that from the people. But I don't want
to see her get fired type shit, you know what
I'm saying. I would rather see our show up different,
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so whatever. But God again, I wish her much success
in other mediums and whatever she wants to do next,
like good for me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And I felt like I understand why she left.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yes, and look, she's in Atlanta, and what better show
to join than Atlanta Housewives for me. You know a
lot of people have been seeing you in Atlanta and
henk with some of the girls.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Get to know them, maybe.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Like girls from Lona hip Hop Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Watched those girls from Love and Hip Hop Atlanta put
her on there. You know what I'm saying, and that's not.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
They're actually having a great season. They have been really
giving the people what they need this season. Bambi as
well Spice. They got. I am by no means diminishing
the magnitude of the machine that is love a hip
hop Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
They have one.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Maybe she could go over.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
There, you know what I'm saying, because Real Housewives of
Atlanta is doing fine.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
They having a great season. They don't need know me.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
They are having a great season.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
People.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Some people in the comments are asking what the class
look up Landmark Education. You can do it, I think online,
but it's a three day weekend thing I did. It
was life changing and got me out of my depressed
depression and seeing myself a little bit differently, and it
really helped me just with my relationship, just in life.
Or I t t if y'all email me, or I'm
send me a dm Oh that's how old as hell
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y'all emailed me at all dot com?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
The doll up?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
What they're gonna do? Leave a message on your answer machine.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Look next week I'm gonna watch the comments and they
all know I never watched the comments. Well, we're recording
next week. I'm gonna watch. I'm ana respond, don't watch
the comment.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I don't want you to do all. I like that,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
So we got to get those into this recent episode
of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. As we all said,
they're having a great season and we have to touch
on this moment as we get into the rest of
this of this episode, so dreu so Dora decided to
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accept Britt Edie's invitation and having a sit down with her.
Britt felt that in last week's episode, Drew so Doura
was a little bit shady and she wanted to get
down to the root of if there's any issue at hand.
Du so Dora looked gorgeous. So she sits down at
the table. She looked really good this episode. Not that
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she would give me up episodes.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
But extra, she upped it extra. It was I know,
like something happened.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It was like I did new glass Clow. But Drew
looked amazing. And Britt was talking about her situation that
happened last week at King's hair spot. I want to
this is this is why Claudia clocked it. When it
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comes to when you when you do reality television, the
best thing to do is be yourself, tell.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
The truth, and keep it moving.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Because when you say one thing in one episode and
you say another in another episode and it slightly contradicts itself,
it doesn't look great, and we have to address that
as well. Baby Dusei Dura asked Brit if she sold
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her cat before and not the cat that Claudia has
in her house.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yes, she pretty much asked Britt if she ever sold it.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Britt said, what Drew said, your.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Cat, toney and ladies, gays, days and men that's down
below in between your thank you so anything.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
She asked if she ever did pull porn.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I'm only based listen, I'm only stating what they aired
when Drew Si Dora asked Britt if she ever did porn.
Britt did start when she tried to answer the question,
and I think she choked on on like her own words,
and she ultimately said no, that she did not do porn.
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She said, I did not do porn, and that she
did not sell her cat.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
She never sold it. And she also said that she.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Was in her twenties when she did the webcam girl thing,
but that she did it with a female best friend,
and she only did it for one week.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I didn't need those details. Personally, I'm not judging her.
I don't give a damn Like everybody got a pass whatever,
I'm not. The sensational nature of her being naked on
webcam does not make me look at her any.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Differently on this show.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
I am, by no means means affected by that information.
So maybe I'm different, maybe I'm a a strange case.
I don't give a fuck about none of that. I
feel like she on her past. She's not my favorite
out of the new cast members on the show, but
when it comes to this specific situation, it's like, what
the fuck, Okay, she sucked the dick she was necking
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on webcam the pictures were shown. We're moving on. Kenya's
going from the show. I don't think she should be,
but she's not there anymore. And to be honest, once
Kenya leaves the show, that part of that story is over.
So whether she was on webcam for six years, six months,
six weeks, six days, who cares, if it was a
week with a friend, whatever. She the fact that the
(25:41):
piece of information that people are deeming relevant is the
fact that she was on webcam.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I don't care how long it was. That's how I
feel with it.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I'm actually ready to move on from all of this
freaky shit webcams and sucking dicks and all of this.
I'm ready to move on and just continue watching the Housewives.
I do not care any more. I don't ken you
should be there. Brit was wrong for what she said.
They should both be a part of the cast. Kenya
is not. We're moving on.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
That's it. That's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
The webcam thing is not the biggest thing in the
world of the biggest negative about her. But listen, I
try to be open to this girl. She's just a liar,
and she's also showing a little erraticness whenever anyone comes
to her and ask her or tries to hold her accountables.
The way she kind of pops off is not cute,
like it's like are you okay? Like she like starts barking,
(26:37):
like how she was barking on Angela last week. Now,
I peeped more lying with her right this week.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
So when she was she really.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Miss represented the brunch when she was talking to Drew right,
she was like what she said, She's like Angela came
at me about questioning her license and said, you know,
I know about that insurance and she came from my job.
That's not how it came off. That is that explained
(27:05):
how it really happened. Andrel didn't just come out the
gate hot on you.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
What's up? But your she did not do that. You
said something. You lied. You lied, in my opinion, you lied.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
About being investigated, having your license taken away from you,
that you still somehow miraculeusy have now right and you
and when Angela, all angel said is well, why would
they do that? You have to have cause and that's
a very legitimate question to ask. BRIT's reactions spoke volumes
to me. It spoke someone Uh, oh, someone else knows
this business. And you're trying to call me out and
(27:37):
I don't really have a good excuse, So let me
just get raw rod with you and have you not
know that's what's been going on and the way she
reacted to me, hit dog is hollering all day long
with that. Then when she went to to you know,
and even if you want to give her a pass
and say, listen, the girl was emotional. She had the
right to feel a way after what Kenya did and
expose her for those with those pictures. The way she
was misrepresenting and talking and lying about Angela another red flag.
(28:02):
We've had a red flag from brit every single week,
and I think she's not a girl's girl.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
She doesn't do well in girl groups.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
I can tell this because girl code with women are
usually really good communicators, will usually over communicate with the details,
and details mean a lot because when you leave certain
things out or you insert certain things in, you're trying
to manipulate and control the narrative day Your story from
(28:31):
day one is everyone's coming from me. I've been so
beautiful since high school and it's just been the story
of my life. People don't like me, not because I'm
an asshole, because I lie and I'm very inconsistent and
very narcissistic in my opinion, but because it's just because
of my beauty. Honey, newsflash, everyone on that show is beautiful,
(28:52):
and somehow they're all making it in life without this
big cross on their back, to this burden they have,
and I think I want you to turn it around
for it and get us back to be more on
your team. But the way you're gonna have to do
that is be vulnerable, stopping fake gangster, But then you
want to be a victim when you get called out
like we're talking about men earlier.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
You can't have it both ways.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Are you a gangster that always has your gun everywhere
and I'll shoot a bitch and I got a whip
and I'll do this. Or are you this hurt young
woman that is really being unfairly judged by a you know,
some bad judgment in our past, which we'd all have.
We can't figure out how to feel about you because
depending on the moment of the brunch of the lunch,
(29:35):
you're giving us a differ with different versions.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
So who are you? I don't know who you are.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Child.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
We are just getting started. This is reality with the
King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
And I think that's the struggle.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Listen. I started.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
This season and my life for her hasn't changed.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But I'm gonna be honest, it is tainted a bit.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I said episode one, my favorite is Kelly, I fucked
with Brett.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I like all the girls. I said. By episode three, Kelly,
I still love you.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
But this angela Oakley woman's rising through the occasion, Britt,
I still like you, even after the whole incident that
happened at Kenya's spot, I still said, Look, I still
like Brett Angela. Sorry, Kelly, love you Angela slowly taking
your spot. That's my number one favorite because again I
would know Samiya, so I'm not conn of Shamiya.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
This week.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I'm going to be honest. Claudia Clock did Dustin? You
did too. I agree with Dustin. I don't care what
you're in your past. I don't give a shit. I
worked through Jersey Housewise, where Danielle's Style admitted to all
the stuff she had to go through once the ladies
discovered this book, where copped about a badge.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Honey Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I worked on Love and Hip Hop Atlanta, where josh
Len Hernanzez admitted I was a stripper and I don't
give a shit.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
The thing is this, I want.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
More reality stars to be like Danielle Style and Jocelyne,
who says, look, this was my past. I did it.
I own it and what and what? And Claudia is
right in the sense of I like Brent still, it's
hard for me. I like to grow with Brent because
(31:32):
I feel like it's still coming across performative. So for me,
it's one of those things where I don't need the
heavy explanation. It's sort of like when you're dating somebody
new and they over explained.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
To you they're whereabouts.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
It's like, okay, you were cheating, Like you're doing too
much explanation for me. Bro either you went out for
the night and you got home cool. The thing with
brit the over explanation of the insurance investigation based on
what Kenya did, it doesn't seem real to me. Again,
(32:10):
it could be, it doesn't. It doesn't smell real. The
webcam thing. I don't care what you did, but the story,
it was me and my best friend and we did
it for a week.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I made a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Okay, but why why Why does it take Drew Sodora
to poke holes in the story or ask information for
you to tell us things invites. I want brit to say, attention, please,
this is who I was. It ain't who I am
any more. So that's what it is. I want her
(32:44):
to do that. But I also agree with Dustin after
this week episode, I don't want to hear about Brits past.
I don't give a shit, But I do want brit
to really figure out who are.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
You going to be?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Are you jos Len Hernandez a woman we all love
because Jocelyne has owned who she was, and we're like,
if she owns it, we're not going to be speaking
bad about it. Or do you want to be somebody
that comes across vulnerable? And if so, you can't, like
Claudia said, constantly overreact every time somebody challenges your thoughts.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
I think she's trying too hard to be that bitch
and she needs to figure out who brit is.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
That's what I think.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
She's trying way too hard to have these moments, Like
she couldn't even maintain her confessional train of thought when
she's talking about the situation. She's talking about how everyone's
doing all this stuff to her and people coming for her,
blah blah blah. And then what does she do. She
immediately goes to attack Angela and say, well, I heard
something about her husband and he had a baby on her.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Lady, Just when we want you.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
To show you a little bit of like, oh okay,
that's messed up, here you go again, bringing in people,
giving them strangs. Angela did not come for you, brit
Angela did not come for you, But now that you've
opened that can of worms, she is going to come
for you.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
And you're not.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Gonna like it because you clearly cannot handle conflict, like
you get too hype and you can't have a conversation.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
You can't have a spicy conversation.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Housewives is for spicy, high end reading is what it's
supposed to be, and you're giving every single thing makes
you react like.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Now, it makes.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
You want to go back and like think about the
conversation with the ring. Why she got so defensive with
Kenyon in the ring? Is it not real? Are you
not really married? Is there a story there? Because as
a journalist, I will go down that hole, that rap
a hole like her reaction was not normal for someone
and just commenting, oh, that's not the ring, that there's
a band and there's an engagement ring. So now a
(34:48):
moment that shouldn't even matter. Now I want to go
back and look and investigate.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
Clock Yet, Claudia, your new name is Claudia Clockett.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Journalists door Dad, I mean, that's what happens when you
open the door for that sort of reaction to your
behavior on this show. There's no secret that Brit has
been a loose cannon. Anytime there's been a situation that
was kind of testy or you know, high energy, she
reacted in a way that kind of like went three
steps further than was necessary. And so after that happening,
(35:17):
after that becoming a pattern of behavior.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Then add in addition to the you.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Know, the whole you know, pow pileshit, all of that stuff,
it just makes her seem like a person who is
not able to kind of think first. And being a
loose cannon does have a value on these ensemble cast
reality shows. You know, it can surface as witty retorts,
or it can surface as you know, unique reflections on
(35:43):
the situation. But sometimes, as you all have both just
framed perfectly, it can surface as overreacting in situations. And unfortunately,
that's what Brit has been prone to do. So I
want to like her. I think she's cute. I like
the fact that she talks through her nose. You know
what I'm saying, that's quirky. We love quirks in the
Housewives universe. But I just feel like she goes a
(36:07):
little bit further than necessary when she feels slided and
that's dangerous.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
I don't like how she talks. I feel like it's
a bad nose job.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
And I think it's too small, and that's why she
sounds like that. And I wish the pitches of her
when she was younger, before that nose job, I think
she looked she.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Looked even better.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
And that's another thing about listening to the comments on
social media.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
If someone probably told us she.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
Need to do that, and maybe it was a debated symptom,
but it's now it's overully deviated. I don't know what
it is, but it's too much and it makes It's
another thing that irritates me about her.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Am I perfect physically? No, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Y'all tell me all the time my shortcomings. I get it,
and I have to receive it so I can have my.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Opinions coming or what.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Well, you know, y'all, they definitely made a big deal
about my toes. They say I have a witch nose,
I don't have big lips, whatever, my hair won't grow
the same length as fifth grade.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
All these things. I'm okay with that. I'm fine with it.
Fuck it that. It is what it is, it's life. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I don't have base about boys. Listen.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I've been told you cute till you talk. I don't
give a shit. I don't care. God blessed me.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
With the deep boys. I'm deep in other ways. I
don't give a shit. I do agree anyways. I do
agree with you. I do agree with you.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
You can't sit up here and just don't listen. All
my people God creating his image and listen. You're gonna
pay money to do stuff, do it, but really do
it because it's something you want to do. And I
do encourage all of that. I appreciate doctor Wendy once
again owning.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Up all her plastic surgery she got.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I thought she was beautiful Dan she said, a beautiful
woman now, but she owned up to it that it
was her choice, her decision, and.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
We moved on.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
So I do want to move on from that before
we go back into housewives. I do want to end
something today because we want to move on to Kenya
Moore finally dusted. If y'all have to follow dust on
Twitter is look at Dustin? Dusted literally tweeted on Friday.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Where is Key Moore? Because he did it all caps?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
So Kenyr Moore finally dropped her, but anticipated confessional. It
was thirty minutes long where she pretty much explained her
side of the story going on. Kenya's YouTube channel is
YouTube dot com slash Kenya Moore Officiial. One takeaway that
I wanted to discuss is I thought it was well done.
(38:41):
She looked gorgeous. The production value was gorgeous. We keep
forgetting Kenya Moore is the producer.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
For the show.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
They need some help over there, so maybe you need
some She needs to research and she needs a producer
that prepares something for her so she can research. Who
don't know Natasha Scott got a son. So all I'm
saying before we go into all that, maybe ken because
her her confessionals, her confessionals were beautifully produced and executed.
(39:12):
I agree they could use that over there at the
Nanny Leak. So so maybe Kenya and Nini can link
in that way.
Speaker 9 (39:20):
Dustin, please go. She I thought, Nini think was fine.
But you didn't, you know, you know that was a mess.
You know it was.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Nannie dropped a video today where she answered all of
y'all questions.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
She didn't because I watched it.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
She watched dropped the video of today when she said, yes,
it's fucked up, and it's gonna be fucked up because
I wanted to be fucked up.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
That's what she said in the video she dropped.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
So now that we know she knows she needs some help,
that's just find her to help she needs because we
want needed to win, right.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
I think.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
I think Nini I saw a little bit of her
talk sh and I think she needs producers with better
for questions that will provide her Like when I Foxhoul,
we had we had justin that would definitely do the
research and provide background information. So if you weren't prepared yourself,
you had the safety that of your producer giving you
like some contact of the stories. Uh, you had the questions,
(40:19):
you had a little bit of research. And I also
I do think Nini works well in an ensemble cast.
I think she would be good on a panel. I
think she would be like you know, like on the
reel something like that.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Carrying your own show by yourself is a lot.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
It's hard because if there's a if there's dead air,
it's on you.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
And I like that she wants to do that.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
I think she would be good on a panel with
like maybe a couple of people that she really rock
with that.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
She has good.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Chemistry with I think she would be good with that.
But I like, I'm glad that she's doing her show though.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Like two great interviews. Have you seen any any tubes?
Your interviews are incredible?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
First about what the beauty Listen the beauty of and
listen this is this is true team. A lot of
the girls call me for advice. What I will say,
Me and Nini are friends in real life. Me and Nani, me,
Nini talk all the time. We talk all of the time.
She's my friend. I called Nini for advice. She calls
me like, that's that's that's that's that's the relationship and
(41:17):
the friendship that we have. What I will say is,
you know, look, one thing Nini did say that I love.
That's who she is. She is showing you guys her process.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
And and and and.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I encourage all of you to continue to support her.
Because I started my podcast being in My Clothes right,
and then after I did my one woman Nini I
she gave me the advice.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Which is why I took her advice. She said, you
need to do in person interviews.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
So because of Nini's advice, I started doing my interviews
in person and it worked out for me. So we're
watching a woman learn and grow.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
We sure are watching her learning brow.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
So the Nini Leak shows available on YouTube is YouTube
dot com slash Nini Leaks, so please support and she
did answer some of your questions and her interview with
me is on there and she also has interview Latasha
Scott from Escape.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Let her sit up there and line the whole time
line about all the things being debunked. Don't speak on it.
You all saw it, and Nini should have known that.
Nini should have known that. I love Nini's personality. I
want her shit to go far and be successful. But
she gotta try, and she's got to give a damn
enough to do a little research and hire a producer.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
That's all she needs. And Latasha was wrong.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
She set up there and lied the whole entire time
and y'all both know it if you've seen it.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
A producer will help with all that kind of stuff,
and then you won't be like it's a producer supposed
to be there to help you not fall like to
like where you're like. Nini has a personality, she has
the glam, she has all the extravagance, listen, I'm giving
this real Avice is not hate. Why would I hate?
There's no need to hate. And so she has all
the tools. But a producer will help you so much
with the things you don't have time to think about.
(43:10):
You should just go and be the star and be
the personality and have someone to help you outside so
you can get your a viral mama, where you can
clock someone when they're lying to you, or or if
there's something that's inaccurate, you can say, hold up now,
my producer just told me that, did you not say
in twenty eighteen? And then then bam, Then you're protected.
That's always saying it's not it's not Disney.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Well, I want to watch the League, so I've been
wanting to watch it for you show years ago.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Let's keep it real.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Nini would have and there were rumors and rumblings years
years ago about her doing something with Dan bar Mercury
and you know, really getting her feet wet.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
In the talk so space. She would be unnatural.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
She'd be perfect at that with the right support, right,
with the appropriate support.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
She just needs that over there on her YouTube show,
and she'll have it.
Speaker 6 (43:58):
Look at Carlos, He's stick of us tonight with the
media to another.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
He's like, listen, guys are a balliot, Listen I love
the Ninia Leak show. Nini has dropped a video today
and please make sure y'all watch it. She answered some
of the fan questions and is one of many to come.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
So getting back to Kenya bores YouTube channel with you.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Guys should also support Kenya Moore, support Porscha's YouTube channel,
support everybody chop okay.
Speaker 7 (44:30):
And if you really want to gag the girls, Kenya,
Porscha and Nini should team up and make a super
panel have can you produce it?
Speaker 6 (44:37):
And make it top mounch quality.
Speaker 7 (44:39):
Porscha and Nini can do that big personality thing and
be cute and be funny and be shady and it
can be beautifully done. And the three of them together
would be extreme. Those numbers together, that's what y'all need
to be doing.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
I think that, y'all. Y'all all rock y'all. I think
you're cool.
Speaker 7 (44:53):
I'm not really sure where they are now, but that
would be a show that would I would be mad
at that.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Okay, So it's hot up here.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
So Kenya Moore dropped her much anticipated YouTube episode call Confessions.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I thought it was well done. I thought she looked great,
the production value was on point. She pretty much set
her point of view, and based on the interview, it
doesn't appear she wants to move on from all of
this and she really wanted the world to know that
what she did you know allegedly it's not RP. And
(45:40):
she also revealed that you know, she was disinvited to
the reunion her words, not mine. Do you guys think
Kenya should return to the show or do you guys
think Kenya should move on?
Speaker 5 (45:54):
Yes, she should return to the show, but if the
option is not available for her to do so, then
she should move on.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
But what do I think?
Speaker 5 (46:02):
What do I think Kenya Moore should be a part
of the season sixteen cast and should still be actively
involved in the har as a housewife?
Speaker 3 (46:09):
One hundred percent?
Speaker 5 (46:11):
Do I believe Kenya Moore deserves to be at their
reunion for season sixteen?
Speaker 3 (46:15):
One hundred percent?
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Do I believe Kenya Moore deserves a redemption arc season seventeen?
You know, opportunity for that one hundred percent?
Speaker 6 (46:24):
Yes, I listen, Bravo.
Speaker 7 (46:29):
If you want your reunion to have ratings through the
roof the girls on the now are going to give
a cute reunion, but it's not going to be epic
without Kenya. You need Kenya on there to bring this
thing full circle. Even if you don't want to follow
continue business with her after this, you gotta have her
on that reunion. That's that is a huge part of
the season. And by the end of the season, I
(46:52):
think Britt, my prediction, is gonna be so damaged from
all the lies and all the inconsistencies that things look at.
Speaker 6 (46:57):
People are going to be like, I see why she
went so hard. Oh though it wasn't right. But it
wasn't right. Okay, it wasn't right.
Speaker 7 (47:05):
Neither one of them were right that it was not
it was It's never cool to slut shame and all
that kind of stuff. But that's what reality shows do, Okay,
every single every single show does it. So yes, it
would be huge because we all want it. We all
want to at least know how she felt. We all
want to know do you feel, Regiems, you want to
know what you think. We want to see Britt face
Kenya at the end of this like and not in
(47:28):
a parking lot with people between you, where I don't
even think Kenya was in the parking lot when she
was popping all that trash, like I want to see it,
like Bravo.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
Come on, give us Kenya at the reunion.
Speaker 7 (47:38):
But like I said, this is why I thought she
did the YouTube channel because she wasn't going to be
asked to be there.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
That's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Yeah, listen, I'm happy that Kenya was able to tell
her own story, her own way.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
And what I do like about her.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Doing that is she was able to do it with
no interruption. Prior to that, ob she went on Tamman
Hall Show and that listen, there's a lot of pressure
when you're on a stage. And me and Kenya laughed
at this. Later when she said hindsight is fifty to fifty,
I said, well, bitch, I have never heard it was
(48:14):
fifty fifty. I thought it was twenty twenty, So you
know that, right, I'm like knt ye, She said, I know, Carlos,
shut up.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
I said, girl, not highsight being fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Girl, But my point is sometimes your nerves can get
the best of you, and I was happy that she
did it her way. Ownership and doing things on your
own is super important.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
And I that's why I listen.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
I know, all having fun and all that stuff, but
that's why I love that we get to do this.
I love that Ninnie has her own show. I love
that portrait doing her YouTube channel. I love that Kenya
told her own story her way, And it just goes
to show you that the power is within you.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
The power is always within you.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
And the more that we as a community can can
at least at the very least understand that, and and
and and work together.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
When we can, to help each other build, and to.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Take constructive criticism and to not always take things so seriously.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
To have fun. What being in the entertainment.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Industry is fun, and yes, a lot of shit comes
with it that isn't fun, right, But I love when
i'm I love that I'm seeing my girls do their
own thing because to me, I always tell my girls
the power is within you, and I just want to
make sure that everybody understands that, Okay. So being with
(49:43):
that being said, this episode of Atlanta House Box was
also emotional because we saw Dusea Door and Rap go
to court and deal with their impending divorce and custody
case with their children.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
It was hard to watch and I want to say,
why listen.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
I know some of y'all called Drew Drew by Lyon, right,
and I understand that right, like I understand that right.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
I appreciated this scene because it was nice to see.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Drew vulnerable because you don't see her be vulnerable when
she's around the girls as much, and maybe because she
just doesn't for comfortable being that way around them, who knows.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
I felt so bad for her when she was in.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
The car and she learned that the judge said that
the case would be unsealed, So you see her in
the car not being happy with that. Rap is still
able to be in the basement and he was celebrating that,
and he was celebrating that the case is not going
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to be sealed, which when I saw that go down,
and they're in the parking lot and she pulled down
the window and she cusses him out, and in his
own way, he's kind of gloating. What struck me in
that very moment was Rap is hurt for again, I
don't Rap and Drew when they were married didn't give
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us a lot of information about what they were going
through their marriage, besides him being in Florida, Ralph wants
something to be exposed when it comes to Drew, and
that's why he is celebrating the case being unsealed, and
Drew is sad about it because there may be something
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she doesn't want to.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Be out there. That's how I took it. Well, what
do you guys take from that?
Speaker 7 (51:37):
Yeah, for sure, And I isn't scary to think that
someone that you're with right now, that you could be
positive with right now, that you love and think they
love you, and you trust them and you open up
and you be vulnerable and you tell them about.
Speaker 6 (51:50):
The things in your life.
Speaker 7 (51:51):
But then when you break up, they're gloating that is
going to be exposed in media, and then you're on
a reality show and it might potentially just this person
that you still have kids with to co parent. Like, listen,
I don't know if you like Drew or don't like Drew,
or like Ralph or don't like Ralph. That's nasty work.
That's nasty work to want all the details of something
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between people to.
Speaker 6 (52:15):
Just be out there like that.
Speaker 7 (52:16):
So I didn't like it, but I Drew was kind
of not keeping it real though, when she said, Oh,
I'm not worried about what's being in the that would
be what would be exposed. I'm more it's bad for him,
and we don't know that to be true or false yet,
but when her reaction suggests that it's really something that
she doesn't want out there that will be detrimental to her,
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and being on a reality show, you know it's going
to be exposed, blown up, dug into and it's probably
gonna get a lot, you know, be ten times worse.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
So yeah, I'm a claudio on this one, as are
often now, but I'm a claudio on this one because
I agree obviously whatever this information is that's going to
be made come up public is something that Drew is
probably not the most proud of or not the most
you know, eager about people having access to. And we
can all understand that, right Your private time is your
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private tum, your private life is your private type your
private life, and your business is your business. The problem
is Drew been line since day one, just like you said, Carlos,
we can take it back to even last week. We
saw how she just set up there and straight up
lied with a straight face. Nothing about her demeanor, her
her delivery suggested that she was joking when she said
that Michael Jordan was her cousin because Drew Jordan is
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her maid name.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
You know what I'm saying. And so the d to
Diana Ross, me and Tracy cousins. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
That's you know, so me and doctor Martha the King
are cousins. Maybe not the.
Speaker 6 (53:42):
Line we are you guys.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
So I just feel like, you know, that, coupled with
you know, like like Drew being a liar on the
show so far, coupled with her just trepidation about certain
information coming to the light, it just suggests that there's
something she's trying to hide, which I don't want to
beat her up about that because maybe it is. Maybe
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it is something that she just don't want people to
know about her. That's fair, you know what I'm saying.
But when you were the one who brought to the
forefront the Tampa shit, you were the one who brought
to the forefront all these women that she alleged that
Ralph had been cheating with. She talked about, She spoke
about correspondence text messages from these women like to her,
she really painted a picture of Ralph to be a
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certain type of person. And so it looks to me
like he is taking the court regulated route to get
to some accurate transparency. It looks like he kind of
played the long game with this one, and she wasn't.
I don't know, she wasn't excited about the outcome of that.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
So I think you clocked it. Look.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I think what we're witnessing is when Drew revealed some
of the allegend transgressions that Ralph was doing on national television,
I could see why he would say, you were two
concerns about the kids, then I could I could see
why he would say that, and one thing about some
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not all some men.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
If they feel like, Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Did something, but let's not like you didn't do anything either.
I think, listen, I think where we need to buckle
up because unfortunately for all of them, right, I think
a lot of stuff is gonna come out. And and
and Ralph doesn't seem like he he's concerned about how
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this would impact her. And but Claudia, Claudia is right, Listen,
when you have when you when you're married to somebody,
I think it's sad when both parties go through that
phase in their marriage because you kind of forget the
reasons why you guys fell in love in the first place, and.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
That's why I always.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
I always respected the amicable breakups when it allows it
to be at my I know in some cases it doesn't, right,
a lot of cases doesn't. But when you're able to
say let's just separate and keep it moving, that's the
best thing. But listen, Drew has a lot to be
concerned about because I just don't think Rob is letting
up and I didn't think about that, doesn't I do
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think it's because their storyline for two years straight was
this Florida alleged transgression. I want to get into the
girls going to Nashville leaefast before I let you guys go.
So the girls go to Nashville to celebrate Porsia's birthday.
Portia did not invite Drew because of what we know,
she's working with Dennis and she did not get Portia
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her heads up that she was working with Dennis, although
she is a Go Naked Hair ambassador. That's Porcha's company
in case y'all don't know that. So Angela Oakley, who Angela?
You still have the number one spot?
Speaker 3 (56:51):
Baby?
Speaker 2 (56:52):
And where have you been my whole life.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Hall with it?
Speaker 5 (56:57):
Yeah, Angela, Okay, I love Kelly.
Speaker 6 (57:01):
I really love Kelly.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
Oh I still love Kelly. I still love Kelly. Kelly.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
You know I still love you, baby, but you know
you're only as good as your last episode. So for
these past two episodes, Angela one, that's all I'm gonna say.
But Kelly, I still love you booth. Okay. Angela decided
to invite Drew and told Porsche this. At the table,
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her and Porsche did exchange words.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Porsche is her birthday trip. She invited Manietta.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
And a few other girls and they she told them
what was going on, and Angela stood on business that
I felt they need to invite her, and that's what
I'm gonna do. What did you guys think about that
whole exchange between Porscha and Angela.
Speaker 7 (57:46):
Portia was given love and hip hop in that moment,
But I understand how she felt. If I have a
birthday party trip, I'm very particular about the energy that
I have around me, and I have to say that
Porsche is right to feel a way. If I say
I'm not inviting someone, then that's what it is. It's
not what you feel. It's not your trip. It is
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my trip. Yes, it is production trip, but it is
still my trip. So as much as I love Angela
and as much as I like Drew, I do think
that it's wrong to force that issue because it's like you, you,
you gotta know that's going to be a problem. That's
a girl code don't And I don't like the people.
I have a dinner and it's like I invite you,
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and then you bring two people with you.
Speaker 6 (58:32):
Who are these people? Who are you? Man? Who's this person?
Who's this girl?
Speaker 7 (58:37):
You might be a you might be a fan that's
sneaking and taking pitches and videos and or in this case,
I just want around me, people around me who I
chose when it's time to celebrate people.
Speaker 6 (58:47):
So but but Porsche got crunked. She didn't have to
do all that.
Speaker 7 (58:50):
Porsche could be like, hey, I said, when I said,
that's it, like because you're kind of getting a little
bit into that brit area, kind of getting two routed.
Its giving, it's giving, it's given too much. But I
get where she's coming from.
Speaker 5 (59:04):
I agree, And I also think that Porscha's been holding
back a lot this season.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
Porscha's interactions and.
Speaker 5 (59:09):
Her behavior has been very measured, right It's not the
typical Porscha that we've seen in seasons past, where she
would just go the hell off and cut somebody out
or whatever. And let's not even start talking about her
spin off, The Porscha's Family Matter spent off with Simon
and Dennis and his family and her family, we saw
a different side of Porscha. So I actually welcomed this
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new corm or Porsche, right. I think she has been
holding back some of her reactions to the things that
have been going on, and when they were at that table,
she did kind of get into the petty bag a
little bit, right, But for me as a viewer, I
was alright with it because it hasn't been what we've
been getting in totality from her this season like it
has been in seasons prior. So I wasn't mad at
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her saying, you know what, Angela, I didn't want you here,
and I'm mad you brought her. I wasn't mad at
Angela saying I know you don't want her here and
I brought her. I wasn't mad at the other friends.
And another thing that was cool about this Nashville trip,
these are the young ladies that Porsche really hangs out
with outside of the cameras in real life. If you
follow her or Candy Burris or Mayada or any of
these ladies on Instagram, Toya Johnson Rushing. If you follow
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these women, you see that these girls, the young ladies
that actually join Pusha on this Nashville trip, that's her
click in real life. Those are the girls she really
really hangs with outside of the camera, And I would
love to see some of those relationships explored. I know
that there's overlap there with some of the other cast members.
They you know, they're in relationship with some of the
other cast members.
Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I would love to see.
Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
Them tap into that bag as we move into season
seventeen eighteen and this keeps going. Those are the real
relationships that will make a very robust show for us
to watch because it's actual, real connection. So that was
my takeaway in that moment. I was like, Dang, these
really are the girls that she's with in real life.
She's so easily able to communicate with them, explain to
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them so quickly, you know what was going on with
the dynamics relating to Angela Oakley and Drew Sidora. She
was able to communicate that to those ladies so quickly
because they're real friends. So bring some of them on.
We need some more friends of the show. You know
what I'm saying, Bring some of them ladies on. I'm
a prob. Whatever those young ladies were, bring those young
ladies on. Let's make them friends of the show next
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season and really get into some actual connections.
Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
I agree.
Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
Like I was like, oh, who believe her crew was cute.
I like a girl I can hang with other women
that pretty, don't want to just be the only pretty
girl in the group.
Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
I think that was super cute.
Speaker 7 (01:01:34):
I like that, and I think that Porsha needs to
do more of that this season, because honestly, this is
no hate, but she's coming off more like a friend
of the show than a housewife this season. She really is,
like all her stuff is like related to Drew. It's
making Drew look bigger than her actually on the show.
We're seeing Drew with the singing career. We're seeing Drew
with her divorced situation, and we're seeing Drew with her
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issue with the group and now the butting heads with Porscha.
We're seeing more for storyline and with Porsche. Would just
seeing her react to the other housewives like set up,
like even the National trip. Yeah kind of, but not really.
It didn't really feel like. It didn't really feel like
it was like a big Porsche moment. It really didn't.
It was more about Angela bringing Drew and you being mad.
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So Porscha, don't let these girls punk you out of
your spot by you kind of returning energy and giving
that brit energy. You should be coming in like you
are above this. I've been here for many, many many years.
I've had specials, I've had spin offs. Give that energy
because if not, you're gonna get swallowed up every single episode.
Because I kind of feel like for an episode to
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be about your birthday, I feel like she was given
in front of the.
Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Show this episode, I get it.
Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
A lot of people have said that, and I think
they've attributed it to her and not being able to
film whatever that shit was in the crib, So we
lost a little bit of like the Porsche centered elements.
We have only been seeing her and react to the
shit that's going on amongst the ladies.
Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
So I agree. I agree, Claudia.
Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
It does feel less than sufficient for a real housewife,
especially a real housewife who was announced first of the
new cast. Right, she's positioned as the reason to watch
this season. So unfortunately we aren't getting you know, it's
not living up to the high per se Carlos.
Speaker 7 (01:03:18):
Production wise, do you think that they are really like
propping up the newer girls and kind of you know,
phasing out the older girls because of salaries, because if
you think about what Cynthia was getting paid with Porstra
with Kenya definitely was getting paid and candy they got
rid of, like the top the it was hot heavy, right,
So the newer girls now I know what those new
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first offers are and how much my lawyer had to
fight just to get it, like working the livapool wage. Right,
if you bring in the new girls like you have more,
you're buying more time because they do give you raises.
You do get nice raised on the show. If you
start off law the next year, they may double it.
But production wise, that could be a way of phasing
out the heavy payroll. And really, because they definitely are
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the new girls are eating it up.
Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
I think the kudo goes to everybody involved because it's
the first season of Atlanta in a long time where
we collectively the three of us in the world love
the New Girls right, So I think it's a job
well done from a production side and casting.
Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
I don't think they're trying.
Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
To get rid of the old the older cast members
because of money. I do think this We are living
in a time where we all know in this business
you got to shake things up for it to grow,
and sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
People do phase out. I don't think it's an age thing.
Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Kyle Richards is still the queen Bee of her show
and she's in her early fifties if I'm not mistaken.
And that show, for example, Claudia, I think they have
a lot of women over the age of like thirty
eight on that show. I think when it comes to Portia,
I think Dustin hit it too. Listen when they hired
her to come back and she said yes, it was
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her decision. She was with Simon, and I think it's
one of those things where I think what people aren't
remembering or understanding. And Porsia did touch on this on
YouTube channel. She's going through divorce in real time and
the person that she's divorcing isn't able to be on
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the show. We saw synth and Peter go through divorce.
We saw Phasian Apolla go through divorce. We saw Nidi
and Greg go through a divorce. I think unfortunately, seventy
five percent of Porsa's real life isn't being shown because
you can't get Simon's POV.
Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
So imagine showing up.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
To work and your headspace Claudie and Dustin is dealing
with We saw Simon crash out on Twitter. If he's
crashing that way on Twitter, imagine what he's doing in
her life, Imagine what he's doing in court. And I
do implore people and listen. This is not me defending anybody.
I think, listen, we all watched the show for the
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forty two minutes and keep it moving right, So this
is no shade to anybody. I think what we have
to remember, though, is Sonny five percent of Porsche's real
life is not being shown, and she's dealing with something
that she's unable to show us. So when she's walking
in these scenes, you don't know what she has to
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go through with Randy Kesseler child, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
So I like you think you know, So I do
think a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I think that's what's happening, honestly, and I think the
reason why the rest of the girls are having great
moments that the newbies I mean is because there I
have to give it to production. Is the most perfect
casting on an ensemble show that's been on for more
than ten years that I've seen in.
Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
A long time.
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
It is perfectly crafted, and I'm happy that we're all
able to watch this show week to week and still
find interesting things to talk about. So, you know, I
do think that's what happening. But look, we'll see what
happens on this trip next week's episodes. Something gets revealed, and.
Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
Can I jump in real quickly just say yeah, go ahead, Yeah,
I do fault. It's not really totally Porscha's fault. She
can't show her full story, but can you went through
a divorce when Mark was not cooperating and she got
dragged and she had to deal with all that kind
of stuff, So maybe find some creative ways to show
what you're going through so we can feel for you
during this time, because I'm sure Simon's being very pretty,
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but like to just not really show it, it's like
we're missing another huge proble. We're missing Kenya, we're missing
the Simon.
Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
We're missing.
Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
Yeah, yeah, it feels like, yeah, that's why it's giving
my friend, and I think even Porscha could have done
this without Simon being on the show. Which I'm so
surprised that his thirsty behind that wants to be famous
so bad would turn down the app Like I would
think he'd want to be in it and be bitchy
and tell his story and like, you know, run his mouth.
Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
And I'm so glad he's not. I'm telling you that
would have been too much for me. I did not
want want to hear nothing Simon had to say. I
don't give a fuck about Simon. I like Porsche when
it comes to the two of them, right, I don't
care about what he had to say.
Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
So I'm very glad that.
Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I'm very glad that he's not a part of this personally,
just for me, I don't want to hear Simon. You
want to talk about voice tones again? You know how
you can't tell you can't stand britt Edie's voice.
Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
I can't stand Simon.
Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
Oh No.
Speaker 7 (01:08:37):
Tisa tells on on on YouTube does a great Simon impersonation,
and she sounds just like the Cookie Monster when she talks.
Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
It's so funny. I love Tisa.
Speaker 7 (01:08:47):
She covered that divorce, that marriage and the whole thing
was Foulin porscha and Simon's so good.
Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
It was so funny how she would.
Speaker 7 (01:08:53):
Oh her Simon is please go look up her impersonation
of Simon.
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