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There's long been a complicated relationship between science and religion,
but science owes a lot to religion. Despite the inherent tensions, Christianity, Islam,
and Judaism, just to name the three main Western religions,
have all made contributions to science at various times through history,
advancing the fields of algebra, chemistry, astronomy, genetics, and more.
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Welcome to Prognosis, Bloomberg's podcast about the intersection of health
and technology and the unexpected places it's taking us. I'm
your host Michelle fay Cortes. This week we look more
deeply into the study of family origins. It's an area
where one religious denomination in particular has really had an impact.
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Here's Bloomberg Health reporter christ and b Brown with the
story that you can Don's welcome the President and less
International Steve ron Wood. You look grave. We are not
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going to have such a last this week. First, I
want to give a little warm welcome to all of
you who are enjoyed to share for the very first time.
If you've ever doubted the market potential of consumer DNA testing,
then you probably haven't been to roots tech. You might
have thought then you were just coming to a Family
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History Congress will in eight days of places. But if
you worried, you're about to find and more importantly, you're
about to feel so much more than that. Roots Tech
is like the consumer Electronics Show for family history hobbyists.
It is the world's biggest genealogy conference, and I'm not
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kidding when I say big. This year, more than twenty
thou people from every state and thirty eight countries blocked
to Salt Lake City for the four day conference. To
get a sense of how many people that is, consider
that the conference fills downtown Salt Lake City Salt Palace,
a seven hundred thousand square foot convention center that served
as the media center when Utah last hosted the Winter Olympics.
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The multitudes make the pilgrimage to Utah every year for
one reason, to find out about the latest and greatest
genealogical technologies. At roots Tech, companies like ancestry, dot Com
and twenty three and me show up to show off
their latest products, and people waiting hours long lines for discounts.
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Celebrity genealogists give talks and teach classes, and there are
people from genealogical ideas just roaming around and costumes their
ancestors might have worn, like riches and pilgrim hats. My
favorite thing there was this feature in the roots Take
app that showed you how many cousins you had at
conference and let you message them. There were these big
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digital displays everywhere with stats on how many cousins had connected.
On the second day, I noticed one display that said
more than seven thousand cousins had contacted each other through
the app. I just love the idea that all these
people were going to this conference and grabbing a cup
of coffee with a family member they've never met. It's
like family tree building in real time. I write about
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DNA testing a lot and all of the sort of
surprising consequences that have come out of a growing consumer
interest in it. Filling out the family tree used to
be a hobby relegated to grandparents and great aunts. Now
it seems like everyone is mailing away their DNA to
find out about their roots. Seeing so many people gathered
in one place to talk about genealogy really stallized for
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me just how popular this hobby has become. On Opening night,
there was this live acapella show that thousands of people attended.
Some people stood up in the aisles and danced. The
place was a zoo. But maybe the craziest thing about
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roots Tech is that it is actually put on by
the Mormon Church, or more precisely, the conference is put
on by Family Search, a genealogy organization run by the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. As the
church prefers to be called at the opening ceremony after
that acapella group saying Family Search as CEO Steve Rockwood
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introduced several high ranking members of the church. Please welcome
to the stage, the German of the Board of Family
Seas International, a member of the Core of the Church
of Jesus Christ of Lattery Saints, and my dear Brad
Elder by Foster. At one point he told the crowd,
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we believe the Heavenly Father wants to connect us all together.
This is a theme you here repeated frequently at roots Tech.
We are all related. We're all one big family. To
be clear, roots tech is not a religious conference, though
atheist should beware that there are some pretty clear religious overtones.
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Roots Tech is a genealogy conference that is put on
by the Mormon Church. Around half of the people who
attend are not Mormon. If you missed the moment where
they invoked God and called church elders out on stage,
you might have never known there was a religious connection
at all. But there's a good reason that the church
puts on the biggest genealogy conference in the world. Genealogy
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is a longstanding Mormon interest. More than that, it's become
intertwined with Mormon beliefs. Mormons believe that family spend eternity
together in the celestial Kingdom or Heaven. They also believe
in the baptism of the dead, a controversial practice in
which those who did not find their faith on earth
or given a chance of salvation and a chance at
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eternity with the rest of their family. This is where
genealogy comes in. If you're going to save the soul
of your ancestor, you need to know who they are.
So in the nineteenth century, the church began sending Mormons
back to Europe to scour family records, and in the
century since, the Church is actively thought to bolster the
science and industry of genealogy, including by more recently putting
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on roots deck. A century before consumer market even existed,
the Mormon Church had a need for better ways of
doing genealogy, and in pushing genealogical techniques and technologies forward,
it has set the stage for this crazy moment we're
living in right now, a time when you can buy
a DNA hit for and find out how Scottish you are,
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or discover your dad isn't your dad, or even help
the police touch a serial killer. It was this convergence
of science, industry and religion that had brought me to
roots Tick. Honestly, I just found it fascinating. At the conference,
I sat down with Steve Rockwood, the CEO of Family
Search that I mentioned earlier. He explained to me how
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genealogy has become such a big part of the Mormon faith.
While it is universal, it is it is innate desire
to know where you come from. Different people enter this
and actually start putting resource towards it for different reasons.
And in the Church of Jesus Christ celebrity saints, there's
actually a doctrinal reason why members of the church wanted
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to learn their their family history, and it's a simple
that's a simple principle that we believe that families can
live together forever and that that's a multi generational experience.
So that you can live with your your loved ones
that you knew um while you lived here on earth,
in your immediate family, but you can also live with
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your grandparents and your great grandparents. And we just believe
families are forever. Many early Mormons were pioneers escaping discrimination
back east to eventually settle in the Great Salt Lake Valley.
This is how genealogy entered the picture. The early members
of the church back in the eighteen hundreds, their homelands
were in the eastern United States, they were in the UK,
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there in northern and western Europe, and as they were
converted to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, they gathered together
in different parts of the Eastern United States, the Midwest,
and ultimately out here to the Inner Mountain West. And
so to hear, you have these pioneers that went through
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all of this to come here, and they had left
their homelands, they had left their families. But there's this
doctrine that families can be together. And if you perform
certain ceremonies and rites in the in the temple of
the Church of Jesus Christ larities saints, then you can
give that offering to your ancestors well. In order for
them to do that, they need to have the records,
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and the records were back home, the records were thousands
of miles away. In order to fulfill a key part
of their faith, Mormon pioneers needed to access family records
that they didn't have. So in the church founded the
Genealogical Society of Utah, sending Mormons as far afield as
Europe to track down original documents that would allow people
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to fill out their family trees. And it started as
a service, and then the technology came and so it
went from service to let's use this technology, and that's
when we started sending out camera crews to go start
taking the pictures and all the archives. So it's a
that's that's the root of it, and it's evolved now
for over a hundred years. Like Steve mentioned, at some
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point the church started to get really interested in new
technologies that could help it do a better job of
collecting family records and ultimately connecting families in heaven. In
the nineteen thirties, the church began using microfilm, photographing original
documents so that they would be better preserved and more accessible.
In the nineteen eighties, as home computers became a thing,
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the church introduced software so that people could create and
share their family trees electronically. With the advent of the Internet,
the church realized that the genealogical Society of Utah could
have a far wider reach and re christened it Family Search.
The family Search website eventually launched in nineteen, three years
after Ancestry dot com. Ancestry dot com, by the way,
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also has Mormon roots. It was started by two Brigham
young grads who got their start selling Latter day Saints
publications on floppy disk. The church even created jed com,
which is the file format still used today for genealogical
data today. The church record collection includes billions of digitized
online records, along with more than two point four million
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rolls of microfilmed records, seven hundred forty two thousand microfiche,
and hundreds of thousands of books and periodicals, all stored
and the Family History Library on Temple Square in Salt
Lake City and in the Granite Mountain Records Fault, which
is basically a climate controlled bunker for records built under
seven hundred feet of rock to withstand a nuclear blast.
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Here's Steve again. Our role is simply to connect members
of the Church of Jesus Christ, Hilary Saints, and those
who aren't members of the church, to just simply connect
them to their homelands and connect them back to their families.
Exporting the enthusiasm for genealogy. The Church's betting is good
for everyone. It means better technology, more access to records,
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and an easier path to salvation. The Church, Rockwood told me,
wants to be a catalyst for the entire industry. That's
actually why it started roots Tech back in two thousand eleven.
Genealogists and technologists weren't talking to each other, and the
Church wanted to change that. We don't compete with absolutely
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anyone here at roots Teck. We don't compete with anyone
in the industry. We want to see what they bring
to the party. We want to see if what we
can add to it, and then find ways that baby,
there's a more synergistic approach, and we've been very, very
successful in doing above and beyond all else. We just
want to be the trusted partner and the trusted, honest,
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neutral entity here and that's why we created roots Tech.
We were the one organization um that could actually bring
everyone together. Root stick exists to cement the church's role
at the center of the genealogy industry. I talked with
Donald Atkinson, a historian at Queen's University in Canada, for
some perspective on the contributions the Church has made to
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the field. Almost a decade ago, Donald wrote a book
about the Mormon Church and genealogy. He told me he
doesn't think the Church gets enough credit for the role
it has played in field. This is something I've heard
before from people in the industry that the church really
set the stage for the industry that would follow it.
The church was going to it helped the first big
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wave of democratization of genealogy. If you if we talked
in the year eighteen fifty, let's say, you know, before
the church did this, but eighteen fifty, genealogy was something
rich people did. If you're talking nineteen fifties, starts to
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become possible, using often by Mormon sources to start too,
for everybody if they'll take the time to start to
learn about their family, and then it gets just easier
and easier, and it's snowballs. Um. So, yeah, the democratization
of genealogy is in large degree caused by made possible
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by the at Roots Tech, the biggest draws classes where
people learn things like how to sturge scandinating archives or
read an ancestor sloppy, hard to decipher handwriting. Increasingly, people
are really interested in DNA testing, which in the past
decade has gotten really easy and cheap. For a lot
of people, DNA testing is like the gateway drug to genealogy.
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They send in a tube of spit to find out
about their heritage just for fun, and all of a
sudden they were messaging with third cousins and obsessively trying
to fill in the gaps on their family tree. All
of the major DNA testing companies have multiple classes at
roots Tech, as well as huge booths where they're doing
demonstrations and selling kids. I talked to a lot of
people about why they were there. Some of them got
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the genealogy bug from a grandparent or had a friend
or family member that was into it. Here's one woman
I met, Jan My husband is big into genealogy, and
so I'm just I'm I'm starting and loving it and
I'm loving to find my family. Okay, so you're being
a supportive spouse, a supportive spouse, but now I love
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it taking on a life of itself. It is. It's
just fun to know where we came from. And also, um,
we have grandchildren, and the stories that we're finding from
our history, I really think strengthens our grandchildren as we
tell them, Gosh, look what your great great grandparents live through,
you can live through today. It seems like more than ever,
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we just want to know who we are and where
we came from. Within the Mormon faith, enthusiasm for roots
is baked into the culture. Within most Mormon congregations. There's
a person whose duty it is to help people with
their own family history. Bringham Young. The university owned by
the church, even produces a popular Greatest Race style reality
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TV show in which participants forego technology on a hunt
to find and meat relatives get ready for a race
unlike any other. Our family round we rolled. For the
first time in my life, I met a little piece
of my dad. I've gained a better appreciation for family.
I talked for a long time with Sydney Orton, an
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eighteen year old by Youth student who has been into
genealogy since she was a little kid. She talked a
lot about what genealogy means to her as a more man,
but also about just how fun it is. I started
when I was eleven years old. I am a member
of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints,
and I was part of that religion. Our church leaders
really pushed us to be involved in genealogy, and one
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aspect that they were particularly focusing on in two thousand
eleven was um indexing, and I thought, Okay, I'll try it,
so I did, and I fell in love with it.
She told me what really got her hooked on genealogy
were the stories she uncovered. There were stories behind the records.
Were like weird things I'd find in records, like kids
who died because they were born two heads, or this
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whole family where they named They had nine kids and
they named every single kid after a character from the
Bible or not a character of sent from the Bible.
And then their last kid they named Lucifer, which I
just really wanted to know the story behind. Sydney started
out helping the church index other people's records, but eventually
she also got curious about her own family. Some of
her ancestors were Mormon pioneers, people who traversed North America
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with hand pulled carts to get to Utah. But this
particular family, as I learned their story, I was just
so blown away by their strength or their determination and
loyalty to God into each other. One of her distant
great grandmothers, Jane James, lost a baby on the boat
to America from England and her husband on the truck
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to Utah. Her son got frostbite and couldn't walk. Sidney says,
Jane and her daughter survived on four ounces of flower
a day pulling their carts to Utah and the snow.
In other words, this relative was pretty tough. So they
had so much unwavering faith in God. It's yeah. So
it's really touched me. And I thought, well, if they
have that much strength and I came from them and
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other ancestors like them, than I have a lot of
strays because they're my family. At Roots Tech, I met
lots of Mormons who were proud of the role the
faith has played in popularizing an interest in family history.
Paul Nada, a spokesperson for Family Search, told me that
he thought the church has played a big role in
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influencing a lot of areas of the technology, like online
family trees. The scrap booking craze of the eighties and nineties,
he said, even began in Mormon circles. Many credit the
beginnings of that movement to one Utah Mormon Family Church.
Tenants in modern science, of course, aren't always in sank
far from it. While the Mormon Church has embraced DNA testing,
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the technologies helped confirm scientific findings, also at odds with
the core Mormon belief The Book of Mormon holds that
Native Americans descended from Jews fleeing the conquest of ancient
Israel by the Assyrians nearly three thousand years ago, but
population genetics support earlier work by archaeologists and anthropologists. The
show humans first walk to North America about fourteen thousand
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years ago over a land bridge linking present day Siberia
with Alaska. That hasn't stopped the church from forging ahead
with new technologies that it hopes can make genealogy more
interesting and accessible. For the first time. This year, Family
Search will hold a second Roots Tech conference in London. Steve,
the Family Search CEO, told me that Family Searches are
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in d arm Is exploring how it might use artificial
intelligence to help with archiving and searching records. It's also
thinking about how it could help bolster the burgeoning field
of consumer DNA testing. He said. Long term planning for
the church isn't a decade or two that's short term.
They're planning for what the world might be like in
hundreds of years, for the probability that future genealogists will
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suffer from having too much data instead of too little.
There's this incredible emotion, even a spirit of the work,
that you feel when you've find out um how you're connected,
either in general to your homeland or in general to
your family. It's a feeling of of completeness, of connectiveness
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belonging in Utah, I visited the Family History Library, the
place where so many of the church's records were kept.
The prominence of the library, right on Temple Square, directly
across from the towering spires of the Salt Lake Temple,
says a lot about the importance of genealogy to Mormons.
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It is a five story temple to genealogical research, but
unlike Mormon temples, the libraries open to anyone. When I
went inside, I'm not really sure what I was looking for.
A young and very enthusiastic church missionary sat me down
at a computer and showed me the ropes. We decided
to see if we could find any records related to
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my great grandfather Manuel, who swam to Texas from Mexico.
Since Manuel was not a legal immigrant, I was surprised
that we actually found some things. Like Sydney, I found
the most fascinating things were the stories behind the records.
From census record I learned that he had worked eighty
hours a week as a waiter, and that he and
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my great grandmother had a lodger. I imagined his long
days at the restaurant, coming home to his wife and
my young grandfather. I wondered who that lodger was. There
was also another record, one that just might have been him,
record of a man who at least shared his name
and age, crossing into America at about the right time.
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It was powerful the young missionaries zerox the record for me.
Helping people connect to their past, he told me, was
really really cool for me, though, there was something slightly
uncomfortable about finding pieces of my very Catholic great grandfather's
history enshrined in a building belonging to religion to which
neither of us belonged. Then again, if the Church hadn't
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preserved so many of these records, who's to say they
would still exist at all. For me, the records may
not be a path to heaven, but at least they
are path to knowing a little bit more about my past.
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