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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When the city sleeps, the Secret Mission awakens.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Vampires there where we should be ruling the Cubans, But
this Friday there were things out tonight than vampires.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Evil. We're gonna be gods as a new enemy that.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Wesley snipes Stephen Dorf, the world.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Belongs to us, Blade.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Dar In a world where podcasts reign supreme, Two Friends
dare to ask, do you even? Movie? Hosted by filmmaker

(00:49):
Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denyer.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Spoiler alert? Is that is that how you want to
where you want to be when Jesus come back?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's the other that roll and roll? You know you'll
be loving this ship right here?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Did you ever see the the mad TV pose and
pose and pose and pose and pose?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
And did you ever see I'm sure you have you
seen him living color when Jim carried a wh God,
damn it. What's the song called impostor informant? I think
it's informant. He was that South South African white rapper,
damn it? What the hell is his name? But he

(01:50):
basically did a he didn't Living color sketch all about
how that guy was a huge poser.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Mmm, I mean a gangly white Canadian like him would.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Know Informer that's the name of the song. Impost. Snow
is what the the sketch is called because Snow was
the artist and the song was called Informer, and he
called it imposter.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
There was a white, white South African rapper named Snow.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yes, I'm checking, hang on, I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I'm not I'm not denying it.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm checking checking had not Canadian. My apologies.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh that's less. Geez Davi's like, sorry about making it
extremely charred. Yeah, that's bad. This is the stuff ideal.
Well he did.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
He did reggae. That's what Snow did.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
There were a few white reggae ars gayers in the
UH in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I feel like, did you ever hear Eddie Murphy's red
Light song that he did when he was doing reggae?
When I think Snoop Lyon was kind of doing the
same thing around that time. He did a song called
red Light. I don't even know if you can still
find him besides YouTube because it used to be on
like streaming services and whatnot. But I don't think it's
even worth a video still because I know he had
a music video for it, but it was a pretty

(03:05):
solid song. But I mean Eddie Murphy was is a musician. Technically,
I like it.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
At first it sounded like praise, and then it became
not so praised. I didn't technically.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
I mean people people don't know him for his music.
I feel like in this day they know him because
he was a comedian and a star. Yeah oh yeah,
eleven years ago red Light featuring Snoope line.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
In this day and age, kids they just don't know it,
you know, they just don't understand.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
But yeah, no, I that's a solid song. I never
heard that in a while. Listen that a way home?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, yeah, you know you're gonna stick to that story.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
I'm gonna stick that store even though actually if I
want to listen to it on the way home, I
still have to listen to it through my phone because
I still can only play CDs in my car right now.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
So what is the problem with the car?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Oh, the cassette tech. The cassette tech died, which is
how I have my adapter that played through my phone
or I can hook it up to whatever. Because I
have the CASSETTEP adapter thing. It doesn't have the FM
hooked up. When I when I bought the car. Yeah,
you don't have the f it's not hooked up. So,
I mean, in all reality, and I think I've said
this on the show already, in all reality, I could
probably just have the radio taken out, hook up the

(04:08):
FM and I'd be fine. Is that I can use
my transmitter.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be difficult.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
It wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
How how was the FM not hooked up?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I don't know. It just that's how it wasn't when
I got the car. It just wasn't hooked up.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, that's that's odd.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, the car has never had FM radio like in
the M the a M. Well, okay, so it's weird
because it I can get FM radio, but it's I
have to turn that fucker all the way up in
order for it to in order to hear it. And
that's even just lightly.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
So you do have FM, it just doesn't work. Well,
the intet is probably not hooked up.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yes, yeah, strengthened.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, well, have you tried an FM transmitter because it
might be louder.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I did.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
It didn't work. It didn't work at all. Now, even
when all it did.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Was it just made it go basically silent. So like
it's getting the signal, but it does I only know,
but knows what's what it can do with it for
that matter.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
It's weird. That's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it should just
get a new stereo. I'm probably going They're not that expensive.
And I mean, actually was.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I was at my dad's shop a couple of days
ago and he's got a couple and I was like,
are you doing anything with those? And he's like, oh no,
if you actually want one of those and it would fit,
let me know.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
But even a new stereo is not expensive.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
But even just to get a new cassette deck for
the time being, what you.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Just want a cassette deck.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I mean, that's how I've listened to my music. Like
I mean, don't get me wrong, Like I have a
shit ton of CDs and I have a shit to
like cassetts, but I.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Have a ship ton of iPhone Internet.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
But I also just that adapter literally plug and play.
It's the simplest thing for me.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I mean there are simpler No, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
As somebody who literally drove his mom's car last night,
and I was and I had the ability to bluetooth
into the radio through my phone and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
That was nice.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
The best thing I ever did on my old car
was put a new radio, and.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
That was the thing was I've like when I the
last time I put a radio in my car was
when I had my first g because it was shortly
after I put that radio in, like a year after
I put that radio in that I ended up getting
newer Geep, the red Jeep. But that was like the
only time I've really ever done a hystereo replacement. And
that was, like I think I've said on the show before,
like that was kind of a pain in the ass.
But I had a buddy doing it. He did it

(06:17):
for a six pack, so I can't really complain. But
that was when we had that whole thing with like
the headlight wires getting crossed so the radio would work,
and then I turned on the headlights and the radio
didn't work, and yeah, it was a whole.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
And they turned the wipers in the garage door over,
just like, what the hell's happening here?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
What's you put my window down? Ejector seat A.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah. Cars are fun, they are They're a blast.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, sure, they can't all be the car. I love
that movie. It's a good movie, freaking Jaws, but it's
a car basically, well.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
There were a lot of that, Oh yeah, Jaws, but
it's a car.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's kind of like until eventually it came all the
way around to Jaws, but it's a shark, yeah, which
is what happened with die Hard as well. What about
Diehard and office building, It's like, that's just Diehard. It's like, yeah,
but that was eight years ago. We've done Diehard in
a submarine. We've been Diehard in a prison.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I got so excited recently because I've been trying to
see Skyscraper, the the Shannon Tweed die Hard knockoff or
is it Nicole An Cole Smith?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's PM Entertainment.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
It's fucking on YouTube, and I'm so excited I can
finally see it that I thought that was legitimately on
two b Uh if it was, it's not anymore when
I looked at it, like a battle week ago or so,
because there's no contest, which is Shannon Tweed and then
there's Annacole Smith's Skyscraper. There's no contest is Shannon Tweeds
die Hard with Andrew Dice Clay as a terrorist at

(07:39):
a swim model thing.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Andrew Dice Clay. Yeah, I love this.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, No contest?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Is that? Was that a PM entertainment as well? Probably?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I have no idea, but I would It wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
This guy it's on two b oh is it?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, I can sort of check, okay, like fully by
clicking on the link. I mean, no, it looks like
it's gone. Wait much of Josh went away? Well, if
I could spell skyscraper, which I can't, No, it's there.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
No, it is, Yeah, because I found there's a channel
that I found recently that had like I think it
was like twenty five movies in a playlist. It was
a bunch of those like No Contest, Skyscraper, Body, Body
of Evidence, It's.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Of an Innocence maybe, I mean that's the one with
the radio DJ. Yeah, Yeah, that one's good. I think
that was the one. Or was that? No? No, that's night rhythms.
What's body Body of Innocences with Shannon Worry? Okay?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Where was that Body of Influence? Is that the one
that that influenced?

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, there's so many body.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I watched Body of Evidence for the first time this
year with the Dafoe and Madonna. Movie's trash, but it's
a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I've never heard anybody say a review that wasn't basically
what you just said. Yeah, so that checks out. Yeah,
speaking of movies, yes, uh nah, I don't want to
talk about movies. So I saw a movie you haven't seen.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah you did. Yeah, I'm dying to see it, are you?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
M because I love Nees mm hm what then.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Why haven't we rented the new Ice Road movie with
a rend it?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I thought it was on Netflix, no ship no, but.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
It's it's out on super v o D right now.
Oh god, that's sounded old now it's super vid we
used to call it.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
But yeah, I thought that's weird. It's a Netflix movie sequel. Well,
I mean license through them, but yeah, but I mean
I think that's the only place you could get or
can you rent it out otherwise?

Speaker 1 (09:36):
I think their their window on it ended because uh yeah,
because we were all surprised a while back. It came
out like a few months ago. We kept debating renting it.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I've heard it's fine, yea.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
The Ice Road is still only on Netflix. The sequel
is uh nowhere.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Ice Road to the Next day.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I mean it's actually Ice Road Vengeance. Yeah, and uh
where no show. I saw the Naked Gun rebad?

Speaker 3 (10:10):
The data is that in there? The theme do you
want me to spoil that? I mean, was that a spoiler?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I mean yeah, and it was. It was like where
they use it was really fun genius. Yeah, you can
only buy it for twenty five dollars. The Ice Road
Vengeance twenty five dollars. Oh shit, yeap, twenty five dollars purchase.
It was put up by Vertical.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Okay, that actually makes sense.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I don't remember. I don't know exactly. I think it's
been a couple of months. It's been out, Yeah, it's
at least been a couple of months. But no, so
the Naked Gun, that's one of those that I was
not initially very excited about because comedies just haven't been
a big part of the theatrical experience for a while now. Yeah,
and then that's I think it was. The second trailer

(10:58):
that dropped was the one where they review like him
talking to his to Frank, to his dead dad. But
then it shows Paul Walter Houser talking to his dad
and of course and it's ny but then it just
revealed like a line of pops all talking to their
dead dad O. J. Simpson one, which in the movie
the joke is slightly different, but it's very, very funny.

(11:18):
So that's when I was like, Okay, this might this
might be pretty interesting. Yeah, it's eighty five minutes. It
just zooms, And I'll tell you one joke from the
movie that nearly killed me. That's not a big spoiler
because it's my kind of humor. There's a like tech
mogul character and he at one point invites Drebin to
like his presentation or whatever, and as he's walking down,

(11:40):
they're all these posters. Yeah right, And the first one
is just like him, like with his hand on it,
just like innovate, and then but then it's like the
next one is like him, and then this is like
Conserve and he's riding a lion with like a bow
and arrow. And then the other one is like is
like reinventor whatever. He's like flying through the sky like
a jet pack or something. But then the fourth one

(12:02):
it just says pumpkins and he's just sitting with a
pumpkin like on a bail of hay and that but
just killed you. Pumpkins. Yeah, there's no contact, no, no pumpkins.
That one nearly killed because I saw it once at
the drive in, and I saw it again on Friday
or on Monday, and it is so fast. Like when
I saw with Rachel. I literally she like went to

(12:25):
get some French fries and I was like, Rachel, you're
missing your you missed that, yeah, and she was like
what what. I'm like, fuck like cause there's so many
gags happening at once. That reminds me. So.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
My father showed me a lot of movies, probably early
on that he shouldn't have. One of the which was
Revenge of the Nerds that I grew up with when
I was like six or seven.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Is that why you have problems?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Let's not do that anyway. There is a great bit
in Revenge of the Nerds right when they get to
the college where they're carrying that giant trunk and the
dude is on the golf cart hits them, or I
walks over their picnic. All this stuff. Well, my dad,
no joke, rewound the movie four times because I would
I I would do this thing where like when we,
you know, we watch movies together, and like we would
like look at each other and laugh kind of thing.

(13:05):
So every time I would like turn to look at him,
I would miss, like the big gag at the end.
He rewounded four times so that I could see all
of it because I kept turning and looking at me.
He's like, no, you're missing it.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Somebody should have told him, it's easier to just give
you a little swat and a hag. That's way easier
than rewinding.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, And literally it was rewinding because he had recorded
I've told I think I've said this before he recorded
it was We had a VHS we probably still do
at my parents' house that says Revenge of the Nerds
and Red Dawn are on a tape together.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Two great tastes that taste great together.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, no, but yeah, I was very I've been a
huge fan of the Leslie Nielsen movies. I mean I
was there when I was there when like for Better
or Worse, when like Spy Hard.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
And stan Helsing, and.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
He wasn't in stan Helsing.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah he is. He's a huge part of stan Helsing.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
No, yes, he is, David, Yes he is David.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
We've been through this and therapy.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
No. No, but uh no, but like aspired, what was
the wrongfully accused? Wrongfully accused? Those were the two that
like they hit while I was like a kid, well.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Because he did a bunch of them. He also did, like,
you know, mister McGoo around that time he did.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
No that was that was like two thousands, was it? No?
No way, No, I'm curious, all right, right, but I
bet you wrongfully accused is earlier in the nineties than
I realized.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I think it's like ninety five or ninety six, because
the fugitive is what it's mocking, of course, and I
think the.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Fugitive is ninety eight. Oh wow, okay, man, they were
all Were they all that much later than I spy hard?
Probably I was to say that's okay.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Next to the the youngest one.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
But but anyway, but I I so, I got a
real kick out of those movies. I saw the Naked
gun movies a little bit later when they would be
on cable or whatever. But I thought that this new one.
I knew that it was gonna be at least pretty
good because when he's praying to his dad in the beginning,
he literally says, like Dad, I just want to be

(15:12):
like you, except different, you know, my own thing but
like you, but like you. And I was like, that's
really funny because that's yeah, that's like the conundrum of
the remake, recol whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Neison does comedy. We've said that before too, but like
Neison does comedy really well. Like his One of my
favorite bits of his still is that fucking cameo and
Ted two with the tricks of her kids.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh yeah. So I was at the lounge yesterday with
her buddy Nick, and she was talking about how funny
that was, and I was like right, and then the
end credit thing and she was like, what end credit thing?
And I was like, no, the best part is at
the end credits when he comes back, and she was like,
holy shit, and he's beat up and just puts.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
The box on my count.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I say.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Next to that, it probably his appearance on Life's Too Short,
The Warrig Davis Show where he comes in and talked
to Ricky Gervais and Steve Moyer. Yeah, Stephen Moyer, No,
Steven Moyer. It's Stephen who's a.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Ricky Gervais and Steven Merchant.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Merchant, thank you. Moyer is a bill from.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
True Flood that's nice to hear.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Well, anyway, he comes in and wants to do a
bunch of comedy and that that bit's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, I think it's really interesting to choose Liam Neeson
because he and Leslie Nielsen had a very similar no no,
a similar track, and that they both made a pretty
moderately successful career out of being kind of a side
character actor with very few starring roles, like Nissan starred

(16:37):
in dark Man. But dark Man wasn't a huge hit.
Even though I think it's a you know, phenomenal movie,
it wasn't a huge hit. And that is like the
one thing I hate when I talk to like people
on the internet and stuff, like when I'm trying to
be friendly and I'll point out, like how the movie
did theatrically but it's such a good way, Like I
didn't it doesn't matter. Well though it does, it does,
but but we're talking about how it was, how it

(16:57):
was received, not how we feel about it. Yeah, because
they're I mean, this show is full of movies that
we think are great that had terrible some of them.
I mean, we have some that were big hits, but like, yeah,
many of them are like surprisingly not successful in the
box office, and sometimes the audiences weren't ready, or it
was bad marketing, or you know, or you got it
from a toilet seat, whatever it might be. Yeah, I

(17:20):
got bad box office from a toilet seat. That's what
the doctor told me. But so when you look at
Leslie Nielsen, he was a character actor who was on
TV all the time. Then Airplane happens and people are
kind of like, wow, that came out of nowhere for him,
and then he becomes a funny man when he was
like never humorous.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Really was Police Squad before Airplane? Okay?

Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, Police Squad was inspired by his performance an Airplane if
I remember correctly, because Airplane was a while back.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Airplane is like nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty on the nose.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, and then Police Squad I think it was like
eighty one or eighty two. Chick.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
I'm almost certain those I've been watching it, because I
mean there's only six episodes.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah. Well, if you heard the thing too, the thing
about that thing about that that they're like the problem
with the shows you had to watch it?

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well, they it was during dinner, the dinner slot, right,
Well though they well.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I mean, I don't know that much, but they said
that the problem was people weren't used to television being
so cumulative. Yeah, like, if you watched every episode it
worked really well. Yeah, but if you tuned in every
so often, it's just you could fall off.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
One of the absolute best gags of that show is
the very end. They always freeze, but they don't freeze
the picture.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's just them freezing.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
But then somebody is like not in on the joke,
Like there's a prison that tries to escape, there's a
monkey that tries to escape.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
In one episode they do a whole new riff on
that in The Naked Gun. No, it's it's like, it's
the kind of joke I would make about everything freezing.
But so but by point so Leslie Nielsen similarly, yeah,
or Liam Neeson similarly. Very successful career, yeah, a bit
more successful than n Nielsen was originally. Yeah, but then

(18:54):
he does Taken and his career now he's an action
leading man.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, big time.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
And he wasn't that no before really at all. He was.
He was you know, he was a drama guy. He
was in Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
I think it was he had done action pictures. I
mean like he had been in Next of Ken, but
he wasn't the lead wasn't. Yeah, and I mean and
Next of Ken. He also played a redneck next to.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Can what those Hazard boys or Redneck? That movie is
the weirdest movie because my mom's from Hazard that that
is the funniest.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Like that movie will come to this show at some
point because just a fantastic.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
For the record, the size of Hazzard Kentucky to be like, hey,
hen I got this movie. Let's check it out. And
then we put it on him like they're from my
mom's hometown. That never will happen to you or me?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
No, oh fuck, he does. So he does Next of
Ken and then does dark Man back to back.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Well and and it must have been tough because when
dark Man kind of it was not a big hit.
I don't know if it fully flopped, but it wasn't
a huge hit. It was big enough to get That's
how you knew that the box office wasn't they wanted
because Universal was notorious for and and and I think
it was overall a good thing obviously for sending their
modest theatrical successes straight to the video department. Hence Tremor's Two.

(20:11):
Tremor's three, hence dark Man two and three. But I
I mean, I'm still very fond of those those.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Have you Have you seen Nison's I mean I call
it Niesen's Braveheart. But Rob Roy, oh ye, Rob Roy Santas.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I saw it when it came out.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
That movie just that movie kind of got forgotten. It
feels like and it has like Jessica Lang, Tim Roth,
John Hurt.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
I think it's because it really came off as like
a Robin Hood knockoff.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, I mean there is that too, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
But I mean not that it wasn't good, you know,
again again stating a a objective reality of a movie
like that, the box office wasn't whatever. Well, it's not
about it's not a judgment, you feel like.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Also a lot of people were surprised and forget that
Neison kind of got his foot in comedy with the
Million Waist Dye in the West.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well, yes, what was was that before Ted? Well that
was before Ted two? Because Ted two is because they
had made jokes with Liam Neeson a lot and a
lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
MacFarlane thinks Ted two is twenty fifteen. A Million Waist
Dye in the West is twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
So it's a year before but yeah, I mean before that,
he doesn't really do many comedy I mean him and
leap of faith with Steve Martin. He's not He's not
in a funny role.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
No, no, So my point is that he went from
a pretty successful famous actor to a leading man in
a genre that he really was never considered a big
part of. Yeah, and that's exactly what happened to Leslie
Nielsen as well. He became the number one highest paid
comedic actor in the world, and he had never considered
himself even funny, yeah initially.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
And if you get a chance that hats you've seen
the Hats Off Entertainment documentary about Leslie Nielsen's fantastic It's
excellent and it really runs down how the best thing
about that story is that he never was annoyed by it, Yeah,
just because he spent his whole life trying to be
a serious actor. He didn't. He was like, once he
realized he was this comedy guy, he was like, this,
this is an incredible gift. I'm so fortunate. Like I'll

(22:03):
wake up every day and I go, this is awesome. Yeah,
and that makes me happy. So anyway, because actors. You
know they're a nightmare. Yep, they can be he yes,
well you know you're obsessed with yourself, yeah, you have,
but you have to be because you're your own stock
in trade. Yeah, you know, you are your brand, you
are your product. Yeah, so you do have to obsess
over yourself at least a little bit, unless you're Brian Denny.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
So character actors who is a fuck up? We get fat.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's great, solid.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
But so you saw Naked Gun and last night I
saw Freaky Your Friday with my mom and my sister,
and I've.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
That's a long title.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you that movie
was everything I could have hoped it was for a
sequel coming twenty years later.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
It's what I wish Beetle Juice Beetle Juice was. You
wish that Beetle Juice Beetle Juice had been a sequel
to Freaky Friday.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Exactly, That's exactly what I wish.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yes, Well, here's the question, though, this will tell us
a Freak of Your Friday is actually good? Okay, how
do they deal with Jeffrey Jones's character? They just have
like drawings of him everywhere and stuff.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
So I will say Freaky Friday basically brought back every
single character.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Which is impressive for a mom and pop studio like Disney,
like Disnel, but Tobolowski's back.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
You've got the Chinese restaurant, the mom and the and
the mom and her daughter are back. You've got Anna's
bandmates are back, like Pink Slip's actually kind of a
big part of the story. Oh and they actually hit
big and like it. We're actually like musicians, like well
known musicians that sold out arenas.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah, no, it's it's a lot of fun. The story is,
it's twenty two years later and Anna is now a
single mom. She ends up meeting a guy that ends
up being the father of a girl that her daughter
is fighting with at school, so they end up hitting
it off. So the two are combat a already because
they are already enemies at school. But then their parents
start dating, and then six months goes by and their

(23:53):
parents are engaged and getting ready to get married. So
one thing leads to another and all four of them,
Jamie Lee Curtis, Lindsay Lohan, her daughter, and the stepdaughter
all end up swapping bodies. So you've got the two
young ones that go into the older bodies and the
older go into the younger bodies.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Is the old Chinese lady it's her fault.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
No, they don't even tell it's not. No, there's a
whole there's a whole fortune teller aspect.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
So it's like they went big yeah. I mean like
the movie big yeah. So they literally did the sequel
thing where like it's double now yeah okay, okay, but
I mean, yeah, Jake's back in it.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I mean it's it's a lot of fun, it has
a lot of heart to it, and overall the ending
is just really really sweet. They kind of goes back
to the whole I don't want to spoil too much,
but like kind of goes back to the whole concert
performance thing again, so they kind of do repeat some
things from the first one. But overall, Freaky r Friday
gets a big thumbs up for me. I had a
absolute blast with that. Jamie Lee Curtis is just living
her best life after winning that Oscar.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I mean, wouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, she's doing I mean it feels like she's doing
roles that she wants to do, and it feels like
for a while there she wasn't doing a lot of
projects she wanted to.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Really, I felt like she just kind of wasn't doing much.
I mean, that's just kind of taking a break. Yeah,
you know because my Halloween really like shot her in
the sky.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
My sister was telling me it was hard. It was
it was crazy too because she had just seen her
in The Bear recently. Oh yeah, yeah, so it was
crazy to see her in this versus like her character
in The Bear.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
My mom spoiled that Jamie Lee was in The Bear.
My mom just texted me and what I love that
Jamie Lee is it? She just loves Jamie Lee. She
always has. She got excited. I was like, I guess
she plays his mom and now I'm doing it to anybody.
But you know what, it's been out for months. Fuck you,
that's fine. Well, I mean that was the first season though,
that and that's or the second.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Second one of them. It's an alley of the second season.
So it's my point because that fucking episodes pack with
so many people.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
What thought was funny to question you, But my challenge you.
It's always funny to see you action.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
But yeah, for your Friday one hundred percent, go see it.
If you're a fan of the first one. I hope
it does well too because of it. So far, it's
got a seven point one on IMDb. No idea of
the box office, but it is getting pretty deep.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Well it's only been out, I mean as of the
recording of this is about for a day or two.
Well me Mews and Friday, it's all that they have.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
So our showing yesterday we went to a five fifteen
showing and I mean it was pretty packed.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
It wasn't sold out, but it was pretty packed on
a Friday. That's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
And I got a fucking We went to the Synopolis
Synopolis and I got the hot dog in popcorn combo.
Didn't realize it was a foot long. So they bring
they bring the food to me.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
And were you were you like you were like, I
wonder how big that hot dog was gonna be? And
then you hear the doors here, dun dud. They just
walk up there like your hot dog, Piggy ziggy, piggy
so and and with with the tax it was only
like one hundred and seventy four dollars. Yeah for the

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hot dog.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
I gotta say, I do love those seats of Synopolis.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Man, those nice. Yeah. I don't even remember them. They go.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
They're the kind that were climbed deep, so it's like
you kind of sit back deep and then like.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
The ones at the Green, yes, yeah, the Green everything. Yeah,
they have the ones which which I call the pocket
emptier because they will because yeah, because at our regular theater,
it's just a normal you just recline, but at some
of these theaters, yeah, you recline and you sink. And
literally when I go to the Green where they have those,
the first thing I do when I sit down and

(27:11):
just take everything out of my pockets and put it
in the cup holder because I have I've like caught
my phone falling out of my pants. Yeah, so many
times at that theater. So and and they're also the
ones that will put you to sleep the heart, oh yeah,
because they're like it's like those seats are just like
let me just hold you, little bird, let me just
hold you. You're like okay. So luckily, I mean I

(27:32):
don't go there very much. I never go to Sinopolis.
I forget it's there and it's not far from me.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Literally, I was thinking, like the last one I was there,
I think it was when you and I.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Saw the Predator. Yeah, the Predator yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I think other than that, the ones might've been there
is when I went to see Bad Times at the
El Royale for a Bachelor part of the startup a Bachelor.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Oh I remember that.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yep, that was fun. That was when the video game
bar was still down there, and that video game bar
closed a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
I mean, who wants to watch video games get drunk?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I've would fair enough.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
But uh, and if we did, we talk about we
talked about together.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, we talked about the other yep.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
So because we saw that, yep together. So and next
week we'll be talking about weapons. Yes, we willing to
go see weapons, which I'm amped.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Then I'm probably gonna go see I might see Nigga
Gun tomorrow. We'll see what happens. What's I want to
go see to the drive in because I want to see.
I want to see because I'm curious, but I'm not like,
I'm not in a big hurt. I'm curious about Fantastic
four because I've heard so many mixed reviews on it.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Now I see the problem for me is that the
good reviews just I'm not I was already not that
excited same, so it's not I mean, like if I
went wanted to go to the theater and there's nothing
I hadn't seen, I see it. It's just I've heard.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
The number one thing I've heard, and you know, if
I if I'm wrong about this, feel feed to right
into the show. But the number one thing I've heard
is the approach of of where they put it in time,
timeline wise, is really odd.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
It's in the fifties. Yeah, yeah, because it's starting at all. Yeah,
they said, they said, it's just an odd choice. I
think that was the timeline the original I mean, because
it was literally started in the fifties if I remember correctly. Yeah,
so yeah, I mean, you know, comic book movies are
fine or whatever. Yeah, I hadn't seen one in a
long time.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
So, I mean, we're talking about one today on the show.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Technically, no, and we're talking about one of the granddaddy
of comic book movies because because bat Burton's Batman is
actually not that far apart. Yeah in this one.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
No, you're not, You're not wrong. Well, because Batman Robin
was ninety seven and The Blade is ninety eight, and
literally Batman Robin kind of killed it for a little bit, unfortunately,
it's it's can't be fun now.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, people forget that. That movie really pissed a lot
of people. And I want my groan for the for
the Rondred. It was not because I don't like Burton's Batman.
There's very opposite of that, you know, but it was.
It's because I'm, you know, pointing out things like, hey,
when you remember a movie from nineteen ninety eight, that's
like in nineteen eight, somebody remembering way from nineteen seventy eight. Yeah,
like where's my thyroid medicine?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Ninety seven is a bad year for superhero movies because
you have two big ones that come out that were
expected to do well and they didn't, which is Batman
and Robin and Spawn.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah s b Spawn, which, in.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
All honesty, if you think about it, Spawn kind of
has more of a in tow line with Blade for
the R ratedness of it, even though I think it
was released as PG thirteen because you got spond was
PG thirteen, Bam was GG thirteen in theaters. You could
get the unrated on VHS when it came out or DVD.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Because Spawn Spawn was nasty.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Spawn's got the nasty moments.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh yeah, Well, I watched the cartoon series on HBO
and that was freaking brutal.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Oh yeah, the first episode about the ice cream with
the ice cream man that was the molester and the
child killer. That fucking yeah, that show is brutal.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
It looks like Spawn was rated R. Oh no PG
three man Google sucked. Gemini is just the worst.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
But yeah, we are talking about Blade from nineteen ninety
eight two hours, rated R for strong pervasive vampire violence
and gore language and brief.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Sexual DAA said vampire violence.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, they said vampire viol.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I mean, you know, I don't put anything past those people. Dude.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
A skateboard kid too is a rated PG for an
adolescent punch in the nose.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I wish that was my band in high school. Adolescent. Yeah,
that's a good one.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
IVVY synopsis says a half vampire, half mortal man becomes
a protector of the mortal race while slaying evil vampires.
Oh my synopsis, Blade, half vampire, half man, along with
this human mentor Whistler, protect the city as vampire hunters.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
You just had to work Whistler in there. The movie
is not called Blade and Whistler. It's called Blade Love Whistler.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Taglines of this episode or for this movie include the
power of an immortal, the soul of a human, the
heart of a hero, a questionable haircut against an army
of immortals. A warrior must draw first blood, or actually
one warrior mustro fers.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
That's a little bit better.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, Vampire Hunter.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I mean that's the one Blade vampire hunt. But nobody
knew who Blade was, so honestly, like, that's a very
helpful tagline. Sometimes it takes one to kill one. That's
a good tagline. Have you given blood lately? That's pretty funny.
And finally, part man, part vampire, all hero. I don't

(32:22):
think that was an official tagline. That's just robocopy. He's
a vampire, but he's a vampire. I mean, since that
it's kind of Blade, I mean I'm not denying that. Yeah,
I mean, where is that part where he shoots the
vampire in the dick?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I mean he does shoot several vampires in the dick.
Actually a blade currently rentable on private fan Dango. I
will tell you that Hen and I and a couple
of our buddies last night watched the beautiful Warner Brothers
four K that they put out. I think it was
like about four years ago. At this point looks phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Dolby atmost really makes you feel like you're there smelling
axe body spray and listening to techno music.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
And blood rain, Oh my god, the Fluter. So the
director on this film is Stephen Norington. He gets his
start directing nineteen ninety four's Death Machine.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Oh Yeah, then goes.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
On to do Blade in ninety eight, so four years
after that, then goes on to direct The Last Minute
in two thousand and one, and then unfortunately, in two
thousand and three he directs The Leave Extraordinary Gentleman, And
so ends Stephen Norrington's directing career.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
The way you flinched, I thought you were gonna say
the Golden Compass. I was like, damn.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Now that's not to say he did not stop working
in films. He does do special effects. So he did
special effects for Young Charlock Holmes in eighty five, did
special effects on Aliens in eighty six, The Storyteller, Hardware
Split Second in nineteen ninety two, the rugger Hower movie,
and he did Hardware Yes, Alien three in ninety two,
extras just the Beginning in two thousand and four, and
as of most recently. En by recently, I mean a

(33:48):
decade ago, Harbinger Down in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Man, I wanted, I was so maybe maybe it was
it was the amping Harbinger Down just shifted down mean
to Harbinger Down. But I remember there were so many
interviews and promo going on for Harbinger Down. Yeah, and
I wanted, I want it was so excited. It was fine.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I've so like. It feels like there was like several
movies that unfortunately had h titles that sounded like they
were going to be better than they were, and those
included Harbinger Down, the Hatred, Hypothermia. Oh, I like Hypothermia fine,
but the other one Harpoon with Gunner Hanson, which I
Harpoon looked like it was gonna be fun and it's
not bad.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
But I mean, well, I think Harbinger Down had they
fell for a trapping that I think is is really silly,
which is they made a huge deal out of the
fact that they didn't use CGI. Yeah, and I just
don't care who put that out.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Was that? I think, yeah, yeah, it might have been yeah,
because I feel like I watched Harbinger Down or no,
I watched Hypothermia and Blood Glacier back to back, and
that was a pretty disappointing movie.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Hypothermia does have some fun things in it, though, I
will say that so our writer on the film is
also David S.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Goyer.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
He gets to start in nineteen ninety writing the Jean
Claude ban damn movie that I actually really.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Like called Death Warrant. Oh yeah, Death Prison one. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Then he does Kickboxer two The Road back in ninety one,
he writes Demonic Toys Arcade.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
So he had a Charlie band Era the Substitute. Not
that one though, the Mark Wahlberg one. Oh yeah, uh,
kind of like the Fear. Not that one, that Mark
Wahlberg one.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
The puppet Masters in ninety four, Crow City of Angels
for Versions of Science, Dark City, Sleepwalkers, Nick Fury, Agents
of Shield. Yes, the nineteen ninety eight David Hasselhoff Nick
Fury movie. What you didn't know about that?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:39):
I think it might be made for TV. I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
You think? Sure sounds like it.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
The same year he writes Blade. Then he does Freaky
Links in two thousand and one, Right, I love Freak,
writes Zigzag in two thousand and two, and also directs it.
Blade two in two thousand and two, Blade Trinity in
two thousand and four, which he is one of the
directors on. Batman Begins in two thousand and five, Threshold
in two thousand and five, which he also directs, Blade
the Series in two thousand and six, Jumper in two

(36:06):
thousand and eight, Batman, Gotham Knight, The Dark Knight, Hey Hey, Ash,
Whatats your Plan in two thousand and eight, The Unborn
in two thousand and nine, which he also directs, flash
Forward in twenty ten, Call of Duty, Black Ops in
two thousand ten, so he writes for the video game
ghost Writer, Spirit Avengeans in twenty eleven, Devil Dolls in
twenty twelve, Dark Knight Rises, Man of Steel, Constantine, Batman v. Superman, Vader,

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The Immortal Krypton Terminator, Dark Fight in twenty nineteen, Hulu
Raiser in twenty twenty two, A Yes, Del Toro's Cabinet
of Curiosities in twenty twenty two, The Sandman in twenty
twenty five, and Foundation in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
That's quite a quite a list, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
I would say so. Yeah, there was a there was
a Nick Fury movie, in ninety eight with David Hasself
as Nick Fury Wow has the eyepatch, I would hope.
Moving on down to our cinematographer. Returning to the show,
we have theo Van der Sand He gets his start
in nineteen sixty nine is the dp On Dropout, goes
on to shoot Naked Over the Fence, Q and Q,
the debut, Charlotte the Girl with Red Hair, Darlings, Private Resistance,

(37:06):
the Assault Crossing De Lancey then does Miracle Mile in
nineteen eighty eight, Rooftops in eighty nine, The First Power
in nineteen ninety.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
I Love me some First Power.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Once Around in ninety one, body Parts of Jeff Fayhee
in ninety one.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
I love me some body parts of Jeff Fayhey.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Big girls don't cry, they get even in ninety one.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Remember I remember this guy yep, and.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Also returning to the show for Wayne's World, which we
covered It's a Wonderful Life or it was Wonderful Life
in ninety two, Exit to Eden ninety four, Bushwhacked in
ninety five, So yeah. Returning to the show a couple times, Yes,
Practice the Volcano Blade in ninety eight, Cruel Intentions, Big
Daddy two Days with Maury, Little Nikky, Double Take, High Crimes,

(37:45):
Out of Time, Little Black Book, Beauty Shop, The Riches,
October Road, The Whole Grown Ups Just Go with It,
Beauty and the Beast Remake, Grown Ups two, Home Front
in twenty thirteen, Bad Santa and twenty sixteen, Carnival Row
in twenty nineteen, Bosh in twenty ninety teen, and most
recently Beautiful Wedding in twenty twenty four is what he shot?

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Wow, still working up till year ago.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Moving on down to our cast, we have mister Wesley Snipes,
who plays Blade in the film. He gets to start
in nineteen eighty four on All My Children, Really Really,
then goes on to do Wildcats at eighty six, A
Goldie Han, Streets of Golden eighty six, Miami Vice, Critical Condition,
Michael Jackson's video for Bat in eighty seven, Vietnam War
Story eighty ninety, does Major League, A Man called Hawk

(38:28):
in eighty nine, Days and Nights of Molly Dodd in
eighty nine, Key in New York in nineteen ninety, which
he's fantastic in, then does Mo Better Blues in nineteen ninety,
New jack City in ninety one, Jungle Fever ninety one,
The Water Dance, White Man Can't Jump, Passing Your fifty
seven and ninety two, Boiling Point ninety three, Rising Sun
in ninety three, Demolition Man in ninety three, had a
really good year in ninety three.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
He had the haircut there too.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
They did sugar Hill in ninety four, Drop Zone ninety four,
two Long Food, Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar in ninety five,
Money Train, Waiting to exhale America's Dream, The Fan, Murder
at sixteen hundred one, night Stand Us Marshalls in ninety eight,
Down in Delta in ninety eight, Blade in ninety eight,
Future Sport in ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Oh man, I haven't thought a Future Sport and forever.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
That's a that's a movie.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I remember liking Future Sport. Playing to the.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Boat, Played to the Boat in ninety nine. I haven't
seen Future Sport in probably a long time.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Art of War in two thousand, Oh my God, Disappearing
Acts two thousand, Liberty Stands Still in two thousand and two,
which I want to give a shout out to. Liberty
Stands Still. Not not an amazing movie, but it's him
and the Chick from Jade and Men in black. Why
can't I think of her name? All of a sudden,
I know who you're talking about. Yeah, Linda, Linda Florentino. Okay,

(39:42):
it's basically phone Booth before phone booth. She has something
to do with arms, like with with arms dealing, and
has a result of like causing the death of like
one of his family members. So he ends up taking
a position as a sniper rifle with her on a phone, and.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
It becomes a sniper, becomes a sniper. It's a lot
of hatred to no whole other being. Yeah. Future Sports
Director by Ernest Dickerson.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
That's right, anew that Yeah, No, Liberty stands still worth
a watch, absolutely worth the watch. Zigzag in two thousand
and two, Blade two in two thousand and two, Undisputed,
Bernie Max Show, Unstoppable, Blade Trinity seven seconds. Then we
get into the tax evasion films. Yeah, The Marksman, Chaos,
The Detonator, hard Luck, The Contractor, Art of War two, Betrayal,

(40:26):
Brooklyn's Finus another one that I love. Brooklyn's Finus is fantastic.
That's him, Richard gear ethan Hawk. Are all cops like
dealing with different fronts of it and whatnot? Like Ethan
Hawk's trying to get more money, so he ends up
going to like a corruption side of like doing. I
think he steals money from Druggulers my mistaken.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, oh, one way to do it.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Game of Death Gallo Walkers, which I've said before off
Mike to Hen already was advertised as Blade in the
Old West. It's not.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, Dave has some personal semi food forever. Yes, some
pain expendables three and twenty fourteen, the player chi Rag,
the recall Armed Response in twenty seventeen, what we do
in the Shadows, Dolomite is my name, Cutthroat City Coming
to America True Story, Moongirl and Devil Dinosaur in twenty
twenty three, Back on the Strip, Deadpool and Wolverine in

(41:17):
twenty twenty four, and Paper Empire.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
In twenty twenty four. Yes, he plays Blade. I'll get
into that and into the trap.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
You never saw Deadpool and Wouverine. I know that it
was like the ultimate fan service. They like crammed everything
they could in it, which does sound fun.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Moving on down to our cast, we also have mister
Stephen Dorf, who plays Deacon Frost in the film. He
gets start in nineteen eighty five on the new Leave
It to Beaver, then goes on to be in Different
Strokes in Love and War, The Gates in eighty seven,
Family Ties, Hiroshima, Maiden in eighty eight, Dino Writer's Empty Nest,
Married with Children, I Know My First Name is Stephen
in eighty nine, Do You Know? The Muffin Man in

(41:50):
eighty nine, appears on Roseanna in eighty nine, Father Dowling
Mysteries in nineteen ninety, The Outsiders in nineteen ninety, Always Remember,
I Love You, Blossom, The Power of One Rescue Me,
Judgment Night, the Aerosmith music video for Crying Backbeat, So
Fucking What or SFW in nineteen ninety four, Innocent Lies Reckless,
I Shot Andy Warhol in ninety six, Blood and Wine

(42:12):
in ninety six, Space Truckers in ninety six. Yeah, then
goes on to do City of Industry in ninety seven,
Blade in ninety eight, Earthly Possessions, Entropy, Cecil b Demented
in two thousand, appears in the Limbiscuit video for Rolling
in two thousand, There we Go the Last Minute in
one Zoolander Deuces Wild Steel Fear dot Com in two
thousand and two, Den of Lyons, Col Creek Manner, Alone

(42:34):
in the Dark, shadow Boxer stopping for a second, Have
you seen col Creek Manner with Dennis Quaid and Stephen Dorf? No,
really really good thriller that like kind of came and
went where Dennis Quaid and his wife move into a
new house. Stephendorf is like one of the locals and
whatnot and immediately starts putting on that Stevendorff Creek charm
and then the Shenanigans start happening.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Cold Creek, Cold Creek manor Manner.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
From two thousand and two, two thousand and three.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
I'll check that out.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
It's a solid movie. I really like that one. Learning
in the Dark in two thousand and five, Shadow Boxer,
World Trade Center Botched, Fellon in two thousand and eight, Twelve,
The Conspiracy in two thousand and eight, Public Enemies Somewhere,
Bucky Larson Born to be a Star in twenty eleven,
Oh Immortal Rights of Passage, Break Tomorrow, You're Gone, Officer
Down in twenty thirteen, Heatstroke, American Hero Wheeler, Leatherface, Don't

(43:23):
Go True. Detective Deputy Old Henry traveling Light Blood for Dust,
King of Killers in twenty twenty three, Righteous Gem Zone
twenty twenty five, Oh yeah, yeah, and most recently Bride
Heard in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Oh y, we still don't seen it.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
I still want to see that.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
That's not in theaters at all.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
No, it's it's.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah. Moving on down to our cast. What you skipped
like one of my all time favorites, which one Dwarfun Golf.
Oh my god, fucking time. How did you think that
I was gonna see you get away with me not
doing that to you? Yeah, especially every time we watch
any movie Steven Stephen Dworf is in, I make some
reference to him being Dwarf from Door Fun Golf.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Which was Tim Conway of I believe.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
So.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Yeah. Wrapping up our cast, we have mister Chris Christofferson,
who plays Whistler in the film. He gets a start
in nineteen seventy one with the last movie, goes on
to do Cisco Pike in seventy one, which I just
watched for the first time recently, which is his second role.
Gene Hackman plays a cop in that movie, which is
why I ended up watching it. Cisco Pike is the
story of Christostofferson as a musician trying to basically appease

(44:24):
this cop that had like had dirt on him, which
is played by Hackman, and Hackman is a fucking slimeball
in this movie.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I mean, I love me some Slimeball Hackman.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Bluem and Love in seventy three, Pat Garrett and Billy
The Kids seventy three, Bring to the Head of Alfredo
Garcia in seventy four, Alice Doesn't Live Here, The Sailor
Who Fell from Grace, Who Fell from Grace to the Sea,
Vigilanti Force, A Star is Born in seventy six, Semi
Tough Convoy, Freedom Road, Heaven's Gate, Rollover, The Last Horror
Film in eighty two. Because he is can.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yep for better or worse whether he likes it or.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Not, Flashpoint in eighty four, Songwriter, Trouble in Mine, Last
Days of Frank and Jesse James in eighty six. Out
of Orchids, Stagecoach America, The Tracker, Big Top Pee Wee
in eighty eight, Millennium eighty nine, Welcome Home, Pair of Aces,
Knight of the Cyclone, Sandino Miracle in the Wilderness, No
Place to Hide Knights Sdbusters in ninety four. Larry Sanders
Show in ninety four, Tad Pharaoh's Army, Lone Star in

(45:17):
ninety six, Blue Rodeo in ninety six, Fire Down Below
ninety seven, two for Texas Girls Night, does Blade in
ninety eight, then does Dance with Me, Land Before Time six,
Secret of Source, Rock Net Force, Payback, dead Man's Gun, Limbo, Comanche,
Planet of the Apes remake, Detox aka I See You,
Blade two, Silver City Blade, Trinity, The Jacket, Dreamer Gun,

(45:39):
Fast Food Nation, Snow Buddies in two thousand and eight.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Ohoh, He's just got that into you.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
In two thousand and nine, Powder, Blue Bloodworth, Dolphins Tale,
Joyful Noise, Deadfall, which fantastic movie that was The Treeline
Angels Sing, Dolphin Tail two, Texas Rising, Traded, Hiccock, The
Star in twenty seventeen, Lols Revenge in twenty eighteen, and
Blaze in twenty eighteen. We unfortunately lost him last year
September twenty eighth and twenty twenty four undisclosed. Why but

(46:05):
at age eighty eight?

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Wow? Yeah, I mean talk about a career. Yeah, and
that was just his movie Coreers movies he did. Musician.
He was a musician first, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's awesome
that he did so much.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Also in our cast, we have Donald Log, We've got
h my god, this is a loaded cast.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
We got Donald Log, We've got well. You and I
are both fans of Donald Logue. Yeah, So the first
time I noticed Donald Logue was on Grounded for Life,
that was like as where I like understood, like, oh,
here's an actor. And then I remember, like, what rewatched Blade? Yeah,
that's the dad, And then I realized he had a
lot of interesting roles before that.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
If I remember correctly, he is the meth head gun
runner at the beginning of Metro with Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I think you're right. Yeah, well, well, Grounded for Life
had a weird they cast like all movie character actors.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Well, they also like couldn't figure out how many kids
they wanted the show because at one point, the one
brother just disappears for an entire.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Oh yeah, Grounded for Life is that's a that's that
was like peak like it was a self aware ish sitcom.
I really I always loved that one, but like, yeah,
I just I just remember I would see cast members
from Grounded for Life in the weirdest places because they
really seemed to pick oddball film character actors. To be

(47:22):
all the leads. So you know, I would just be
like watching some like really violent mafia movie and like, hey,
it's the uncle from Grounded for Life.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Kevin. What is it Kevin? Oh? Shit? Hell? Was his
name Kevin O'Connor.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
No, I'm sure, I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
But he's like a softened Michael Shannon. Yeah, he's like
he's like Michael Shannon like that, you know, draft dodged
or something.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
He's he's appears briefly in True Romance because we're watching
that recently.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Oh yeah, he was a tough stuff. He still listen.
So what was your first time watching Blade? Oh? Man,
that was definitely a VHS blockbuster rental. Everybody was talking
about it when came out. It was a very big deal.
It was extremely influential. It caused everything to be, for
a hot minute, very slick and painted in techno music. Yeah,

(48:12):
so much so that I made tons of references to
Blade in my first feature film, Marty Jenkins and the
Vampire Bitches You did. There's a whole part where he
talks about like you got to have your steak, your
cross and your techno music. Vampires hate techno music, So
that was one one of them, and the other one
was like the guy who who makes potions for um,

(48:32):
his name was Hummer, Yeah, instead of Whistler because very
clever guy. That's me, a very clever guy. But that's
but that tells you just how influential it was because
I was much more because I was a little movie nerd,
so I was much more into like Fright Night and
some of the earlier vampire movies. Yeah, and but Blade

(48:52):
made a huge, you know impact, being this big, massive
action blockbuster with VAMPI.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Well in the nineties are really weird for vampire movies
because they're kind of all over the place because you've
got things like Subspecies, You've got things like Buffy the
Vampire Slayer, Innocent Blood, Interviewed the Vampire, John Carpenter's Vampires.
They're kind of a little bit like you got a
bunch of period pieces too, because Promp servers Dracula.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yeah, it's gonna say, I mean, I feel like the
the biggest vampire movies of that period as far as influence,
where Brown Stoker's Dracula, Interview the Vampire, and Blade, Yeah,
they all made a huge impact on how people understand vampires.
But you gotta remember people like to talk about how
like hot vampires got with Twilight, But I mean in
the nineties we had Forever Night, which was literally like
a vampire detective show that I adore. Yeah, big thanks

(49:39):
to my buddy and listener Craig Cohen for sending me
all three seasons on DVD.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Not to mention, you also have one of my personal
favorite movies, Night Hunter, with I think is that? Is
that the one with uh oh uh the guy that
played the voice of New York Ninja in the movie
I Can't Done the Dragon Wilson.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, it has Maria four y. Yes, that
movie's actually really silly fun.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Was that post Blade or pre that had to be poor?

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, that had to have been like ninety five somewhere. No,
you know, maybe it was post Blade, just say.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I think it was, but I could be wrong, But
I mean, yeah, just like even looking over this list
from dust Till Dawn.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Ninety six ninety six from dust Till Don's another one
that was very influential.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Yeah, I mean from dust Till Dawn, Vampire and Brooklyn
not really influential, but Broardella Blood Death by Temptation Tracula
Dead and Loving.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
It Well, Dracula Dead and Loving It is is the
big one tomension because that suggests that people were thinking
about vampires a lot. Yeah, spoof got made. Oh yeah,
because then hence stan Helsing brought up.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yes I did, but I but I mean, yeah, it's
really interesting because yeah, it's just like there they didn't
know really what vampires were sticking, but we were definitely
into them because we were pumping out movies left and right.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Well, I mean they were vampires that looked like they
hang out at the mall there. Yes, that was I
mean no, but I mean really it was like because
it was really I think that had more to do
with goth call yeah than anything.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Do you remember that?

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Uh there was a commercial that was around around that
time that.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Was a bunch of kids on the beach and then
one was trying to find his pair of sunglasses. The
sun came up and toasted him and it was just like,
looks like somebody forgot their ray Band sunglasses.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I remember that. Yeah, and there are a bunch of vampires. Yeah, yeah,
the maam you have really hateful opinions about ray Band.
What you're like, there were a handsunglis. There are a
bunch of vampires. They sucked the life out of everything.
Horrible business practices.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
But yeah, also I think it's it's interesting to think
about this time too, because this is what I was
thinking about when I was thinking about the first time
watching it. This is also the time still where movies
and theaters it still takes about like what a year
for it to hit home video?

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Yeah, year year and a half.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Yeah, Because I remember how I saw Blade was I
had gone to my buddy's house and his older brother
and their friends were upstairs watching Blade. Because I remember
I was downstairs and like I saw the empty BHS
case for it, and I was like, oh shit, what's
David doing, Like, oh, they're upstairs watching Blade? So Taylor
and I snuck in and watched like the first opening
like five minutes, and that was like all I saw

(52:01):
for a couple of years. I didn't see it like
till after like two thousand.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
And it inspired your hot topic. Joy.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Pretty sure I saw it on TV for the first time,
like actually as a full movie, and then eventually thanks
to my good friends that around about books like that
was one of the first like five like R rated
vhs tapes that I bought myself, so like that was
like the cool club because I still, like to this day,
remember the back of that VHS box because you've got
Karen on the back and then you've got like Blade

(52:29):
and Silhouette and like like I remember the like verbatim
with that back and then it looks like sure, sure,
well I mean it And it was.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
It really was. It was a fun movie. It was
a solid action. Oh yeah, Snipes is at his best,
even though after rewatching it, I forgot how cheesy he's cheesy.
He is. He's really silly. But I mean it works.
It's a comic book movie. It's a comic book movie.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
It like, and like we said at beginning of the show,
it also gave superheroes again that kind of shot in
the arm it needed.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah, I didn't know Blade was a you know, a
quote unquote superhero till years after I'd seen the movie. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Now I'm curious. What were the superhero movies after?

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Real quick in a second, I mean there were, well,
we had blank Man before that. God, I love blank Man. Hey,
look I'm a crime fighter.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Blank Man will come to the show at some.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Point, Yes, it will.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Let's see two thousand superhero movies, because spider Man is
I want to say one, and.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Spider Man was early in the two thousands, I believe
because that and that was a huge deal. Yeah, two
thousand and.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Two, Super two two, So let's see Watchman. It's a
little later.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Yeah that was four or five.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah, so, I mean, yeah, it was. It was. It
was not only a superhero movie. It was a horror film.
It was an action movie. I mean it hit a
lot of things for if you were a kid a
team at that point, this is exactly what you wanted
to watch.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Well, correct me if I'm wrong. That was really the
beginning of the Sony superhero movie which we had Fantastic
four movie, Spider Man movies, you know, all that stuff.
That was the beginning of that cycle. I don't know that.
I don't know that it it resurged all the superhero
franchises so much as just well, but Marvel was really

(54:08):
popping for a minute.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
And I think, honestly, it's it's worth mentioning it. And
I mentioned this off Mike. This is a very hard
R horror movie, hard R Superhero.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
The R is used very well.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Wow rating Yes is actually like freaking out.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
But no, I mean this is rated R and it's
a hard R.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Yeah. I oh no, it's it's a very violent, very
violent movie.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Anytime Deacon Frost says the word fuck, he just has
a way of saying it that is just in your face, like, hey,
we're doing this.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Oh yeah, And all of the violence did for the
most part, didn't hold up as far as like gruesome. Well,
I mean, because there's plentiful.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
It's a you got a vampires turning into ash really quickly,
but like more of the blood and gore comes from
the attacking humans than anything.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Yeah, well it so they start exploding.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Slicing appendages.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah, and so they start exploding.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah, there's that. But we we open in nineteen sixty
seven with the pregnant woman is attacked by a vampire,
which is revealed to be Blade's mom. She does not survive,
but Blade does and he is essentially born a vampire,
well sort of. He's half half vampire, half vampire, half
man aka a day walker. He is a vampire. He
has all of their strength and abilities, none of their weaknesses,

(55:23):
which that's an awesome No, he has their weakness, which
one first, Oh, well that's I mean, yeah, there's that.
That's a big weakness killing is okay, I mean there's that. Yes.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
One of the things I liked in some of these
over the years, some of these movies where they kind
of explore the idea of like a vampire culture in
a world where like vampires are a part of it
is I always like I've noticed. I wish I could
think of an exact example, but there have been several
movies where I thought it was really interesting that like
the human characters would like take pride in getting old
and dying. Yeah, because it was differentiator. It's like I

(55:54):
get to get old and die, you know, that's a
human thing. They don't do that, And I thought that
was interesting just because I think that is I think
if we were fighting vampires as a normal part of life,
we would value things that, you know, we have that
get taken away when you become a vampire, even things
that generally we don't love and are afraid of, like
on Mortality. But I also love like Interview the Vampire

(56:16):
was one of those first vampire movies I saw where
it really explored the curse of immortality. Yes, which I
you know, I'm kind of on board a little bit
of the idea of like, yeah, now just imagine, like
everybody dies unless you find someone you love so you
curse them to I.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Mean, vampires in the Green Mile. Do you have a
lot in common?

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'm so tired. Boss.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Do you think though, that the opening is still what
this movie is one hundredercent remembered for. Yes, okay, you know,
because well I figured we're on the same page.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
All the opening of Blade is the the blood rave scene.
All it is is like what happens when you distill
Blade to one scene. Yeah, it's super goth, techno music,
opulence of blood spraying everywhere. It's it's so two thousands.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
I love the way it plays out because you know,
we open with we open with you know, Blade, Blade's origin,
which is his mom and everything. But then we cut
to two people in a car, which one of his
Tracy lords and one is what was his name in
the Shield?

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Lem Lem?

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Yeah, Lem in the Shield, and they're driving to a
slaughterhouse or yeah it's a slaughterhouse, and they end up
end up going into this secret rave in the back
of the slaughterhouse that is turning into a blood rave
because the dude starts going in there. Tracy Lords leaves
him to go dance with this one chick. He's holding
her jacket and just throws it to the side, which
I forgot about. Yeah, but then yeah, he slowly begins

(57:42):
to realize that she wants nothing to do with him
all of a sudden. But also blood just starts hitting
his hand, and then the DJ behind the booth has
this thing behind him says blood bath and then yes,
we get the infamous scene of the sprinklers turning on
yeah and blasting.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
And I want to mention I said two thousands, I'm
aware of this nineteen ninety eighty. Yeah, this is to
the beginning of the two thousands kind of era. Yeah,
that that very flashy, very winky. When hot topic was scary,
exactly when hot topic was scary, when it was underground,
it was like it was on the bottom floor of
them all. But it's it's also worth like, did you

(58:19):
ever did you ever go to a pham party? Did
you ever go to a night did you go to that? Not?

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Not? I've never gone to like a straight up night club. No, No,
I actually haven't. Now I've been to a phone party once,
but it was it was at a private residence.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Oh no, No, I had my period of time where
I dated a certain kind of woman and one of
them loved clubbing so much, which I generally found so boring.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
When the birth of clubbing as far as like the nineties,
clubbing was like what circing ninety five and up through
ninety nine or earlier.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Earlier, dude, there were always clubs because there was the
disco tech.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Well yeah, no, yeah, I'm also thinking to like the
party monster era, like I'd got I Meana Saint James.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
We don't have that kind of opulence in Dayton though.
But Dayton was known for clubs. They had two very
prominent gay clubs in the nineties, Masquerade and fourteen seventies,
which literally I got to go to fourteen seventies a
couple times. They literally had a an under twenty one floor,
a gay floor, and a mixed floor. Yeah, basically, so

(59:28):
you could you could pick which one you wanted to
hang out on.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Was the one that Andy talked about the was it
the Foundry?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
He talked about the Foundry. But we filmed parts of
one of Andy's movies at fourteen seventies. Okay, so yeah,
in the basement gotcha, But that was after it had moved,
so it was no longer at fourteen seventy, but it
was still called fourteen seventies. Yeah, but I remember I
went to a foam party and they mentioned that on
goth night when they would do phone parties, they would
diet red. Oh wow, I wonder why so, which my

(59:58):
first thought was, I will not be my clothes that night.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
I'm ninety percent sure, and I mean I haven't looked
it up in a while, but I'm ninety percent sure that,
like I read a story a while back that they
wanted to actually do a blood rave somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I don't know, with literal blood, with literal blood like
pigs blood. I'm guessing pigs blood.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Yeah, I have no idea, but.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
That would be disgusting now. I mean, for the record,
it's not like a rave smells great. Yeah, I mean
there's that, yes, But the idea of getting hit by
like a combo of like axe, body spray, jupe and pennies,
which is the smell you would get at a blood rave, Yeah,

(01:00:40):
I'm a pass. I'm a pass. I mean, but they
could call it, you know, a hepatitis night or something.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Well, and also uh did you. I can't remember how
how soon did you start playing the hit Man games?
Was that more later?

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Way later? So?

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
In hit Man Contracts, which I believe is the second
game in the original PS two releases, the first level
is a rave at a at a slaughterhouse.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Well, yeah, the the pop up rave thing, which wasn't
really a thing out here very much, or or I
wasn't cool enough to know, was very popular in places
like New York and California where there's a lot of
like empty space and expensive and and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Well, I mean, and that also brings up the the
location of Blade, because we never get an actual city,
but it also has touches up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Very New York City.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
It's New York, and it has touches a San Francisco though,
like the beaches and whatnot, especially there's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Beaches in New York.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
But I mean, like the the the Chinatown look is
more San Francisco than the New York I think.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
So, I mean you might be right, yeah, oh well
it's I'm not gonna trust what is it. I'm not
gonna trust Gemini. But no it says Los Angeles. Okay,
Wikipedia says Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
I mean the later movies may have actually said it.
Now to think about it, it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
I can't remean lot on IMDb says Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Okay, well shit, so then yeah we are there. But yeah,
so the blood race starts and dude's freaking out. Everybody's
starting into vampires and completing tracy lords. Everybody's covered in blood,
including him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
I like how they're all vamping out to get him. Yeah,
when it's like you guys are literally wasting gallons and
gallons of blood, but they.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Also just start kicking him. They also just start kicking
and beating on him like they could have been him
or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Well, and you know, I thought it was silly until
I realized later on when Frost is like basically talking
about why he wants to take over the vampire like
the world, it becomes clear that the old vampire away
was a lot less devil may care about human life,
Like they understood that they ate humans, but they also

(01:02:43):
understood they coexist with humans. Yeah, as to where he
had that ad to, he was like their cattle, they're
just cattle to whatever. And that's one thing I really
thought was interesting about the sequence is what what is
this scene?

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
It's a rave inside a slaughterhouse.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
But they're being like rained down in blode What is
that though? Think about that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
How wasteful?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
So imagine that, you know, you went to a rave
and they're just like we're gonna pour red wine from
the ceiling. Talk about sticky, Yeah, talk about talk about
a sticky situation to find yourselfing. But but my point
is like it's what you you You would have that
thought where you'd be like, why aren't why don't we

(01:03:24):
drink the water? Like why are we just pouring wine?
I mean, why are you doing that? And my point
is that it suggested a level of wasteful opulence. It
was like like a drug party kind of thing, like
where it's like we don't care, it's just about the
vibe or whatever. It's a showman thing. Yeah. So my
point is, though, like, imagine if you could only eat

(01:03:45):
one thing, okay, to survive, not like imagine like lazed
potato chips are the only way you can live, so
like college, yeah, and but like lazed potato chips the
only way you live. And and so if you eat
a turkey sandwich does nothing for you, okay, and then
you're like there are thousands of people like me, you
can only eat lace potato chips, and then you're like,

(01:04:06):
let's go to a club and just get poor laced
potatoes ourselves and stomp on them. That's fair and whatever. Yeah,
and it's like, yeah, and what's the point of the night? Oh,
would have fun and get more laced potato chips.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
My favorite thing though, too, is the the technical aspect
of doing a blood rave in regards to there's a
there's a guy on YouTube that has a thing called
Minor Character Theater and he did a whole thing an
episode about where he was the plumber for Freak and Frost,
and the technical side of them to do this is insane.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Yeah you need it would be a lot of work.
It could be a lot of work. Yeah yeah. But
I tried to take it at face value, and all
I could think was like, this is like it's like
like you hear those stories about like back in the day,
like the heads of like Arab nations would like pour
drinking water on themselves and stuff, and you're like, dude,

(01:04:55):
there's not a lot of water. Yeah. And that's the
sense I got was that there's this idea that they're
like there romanticizing something that's a necessity to live. And
it's clear that the older generation of vampires are not
like that, not like they don't think that it's just like, oh,
blood's just you know, falling out of the sky. So
I just thought that was a really interesting thing because

(01:05:15):
obviously it's mainly it's an incredible visual oh yeah, and
it and it really fed young people enjoying Blade because
that tech, that pounding techno music and and goth culture
was really like hitting the hype in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Well, I'll say again going back to going back to
like this is an R rated movie, Like that's something
that really sets that tone there where it's just like,
oh yeah, that's fucking gross and that's that's extreme.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Yeah, But at the same time, it's it's blood without context,
so it's not really violent you per se, Yeah, kind
of like Evil Dead two. I was like, well, the
blood's coming out of the house, so how violent can
that be? And the NBA was like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
X so naturally, the dude starts freaking out, he's trying
to escape, he's crawling on the ground while they're kicking him,
and he ends up running right into Blade, except he
does not touch him at all. I did notice that
last night. He just barely gets to him and looks
up and yeah, Blade starts going to town on these vampires.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Yeah, and I did not remember all the weird winks
and and uh and goofiness. Yeah, but uh it's pretty
silly and fun.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Yeah, because you got Donald Logue, who he gets all
these guys and he ends up getting his arm chopped
off and he ends up getting pinned to the wall
by the stakes. Like Blade basically goes through this room
like within I would say about a minute a half time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
That's like a minute or so. Yeah, and he's clearly
got like he's not only a badass, he has all
the ways to kill them like Holster. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Well, I mean I love the scene, but like when
they move into that little circular room because he's like
jumping on the ledge, he's going off the wall and whatnot.
But yeah, he ends up Quinn is Donald Lowe's character.
He pins him to the wall with two steaks, and
he's just like, you know, I'm getting tired of like
chopping your limbs off, so I thought I'd try fire
this time, sets him a blaze and walks away as
the cops raided the place.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Which you know, a lot of the problems in this movie.
If he had just like a normal vampire, yeah, instead
of like savoring tormenting him, we wouldn't have a lot
of the problems.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
The one thing that I realized watching this last night,
everybody gets kidnapped in this movie. Yeah, some multiple times.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Oh yeah, that's a kidnapped forward kind of film. Really. Yeah,
that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
So so yeah, they end up they end up taking
Donald Doug's body out to a morgue, and that is
where we meet Karen, who is a blood specialist at
this hospital. He metologist. Yeah, and she is with her
ex boyfriend Curtis, who comes in and he's like, hey,
well they work together. Yeah, I've got something weird for
you to come and like come down and see this body.

(01:07:32):
And so they're examining it. And I really like this
scene because even though yeah, they're cutting open a corpse
and like talking about their relationship, this is just a
normal thing for them, Like this is an everyday thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
For I thought you meant like fighting about their relationship.
This is a normal thing. It's pretty sad. So you're
cutting open and burned corpse, okay, fine, but no, like
that's their job.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
So I mean the fact they're having relationship talks and
stuff is it's pretty cool to have that in the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
I think, Oh, I thought you'd be like again because
communication is so important, you just keep not referred to
the works the cor No, no, no, it's it's a
cool scene because the first joke I thought of when
we were watching it was like, uh, it was like,
first question, have you ever doubted us? Second question to lunch. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
But Quinn ends up not being dead, of course, so
he ends up attacking Curtis, bites him, even bites Karen,
and right at this point, Blade shows up at the
hospital and tries to savor. The cops start firing on him,
which is my favorite of his interactions for going, well,
the fuck are you out of your damn mind?

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
This is They shoot him in the bullet proof best thing.
I love it. He has a bulletproof vest. But don't worry,
it's sculpted to look like muscles. Yep, yes that he
needed help. No, this is peak snipes, Oh yeah, this
is man in every direction.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Yeah one basically comedy wise Fucking pastor fifty seven Boiling
Point Drop Zone Murder at sixteen hundred and this is
right before Art of War, which is one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Of my favorites Demolition Man. He was ripped in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Yeah. So but yeah, the cops shoot at him, he
yells at them, ends up grabbing Karen. There's a whole
crazy scene where he up throwing her across the street
really far and dislocates her shoulder.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Yeah, but he's a gentleman, so he puts.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
It, puts it right back in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
But then also the cops are shooting at him while
he's carrying her to safety, like, and you even pointed
out last night, really good shots too, because they're shooting
with a gun across a long leave of street.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Ye, they're shooting with like they make it seem like
this automatic gun. And he's he's like too like a
building over and down and they're like coming close to hitting.
Oh yeah, they were like the anti Stormtroopers. They were
very good, very good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
So Blade ends up taking Karen to the hideout where
Whistler is played by the great Chris Christofferson. And this
is one of my all time favorite roles of it
is he's such a bad ass in this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Yeah, well, and he's an effortless badass. You never really,
not until the third act, yeah, or near the third
act do you see him do anything badass other than
just exist. Exist? But he's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
So he's just like one of my favorite lines off
bringing strays home now because he's brought Karen and he's
trying to save her because she's been bitten.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
There's a window of.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Time they have for her to not transition, so they're
going to try to save her by injecting her with
straight up garlic.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Yeah, garlic extra.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
It's like, yeah, garlic extra essense of garlic or something.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yeah, which is which is an interesting and clever concept. Yeah,
Like I always thought, like, wouldn't the cure be like
holy water, although this one there's no holy water. Yeah,
they don't do that there, We don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
We'll do that here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
But but yes, the injector with that, hoping that it'll
slow the spread and potentially stop it. Yeah, because uh yeah,
it's one of those things they skip a lot of
my favorite vampire lore. But I'm totally okay with it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Well, I like the fact that when he injects her,
like her her bites actually kind of like steam a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Oh yeah, No, it's like have an effect on it,
and I love that the way they can tell how
she's doing is how fast her wounds are healing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
So so it's the opposite of the normal thing where
you're like you're like, ah, these aren't closing up at all,
this is bad. Instead they're like, these are closing up
really fast. This is really bad.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
So we see also that Whistler is a Blades mentor.
He makes the weapons and he uses them, as Blade says,
that's what I love. He makes the weapons I use.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
It's a good it's a good setup. He makes the weapons,
I use them. He has a lot of that very
matter of fact like, like, was that line where she
was like, uh where she was like, so there's no
cure and I was like, I'm shocked he didn't say,
I am like, I was waiting for him to say it.
He didn't. Yeah, but I was like, that would totally
be something Blade would say.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
So now we we cut over across the city to
the pure Blood Vampire location, which is all of them
sitting at a long ass table led by Udo here.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Of course, and and again and Udo Kiir at his
most Udo kiri. Yeah, I love the joke.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
We riffed last night where it was just like all right,
to beatru vampire, you must fuck life from the golf line.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Like yeah, yeah, we get the gallbladder thing again. We've
heard it. We got it, we got it. So I
don't think that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
It's not true. So they expressed that they are basically
upset with Deacon Frost because Decon Frost is in the
waiting room, he gets brought into the chamber and they're
basically like your clubs are we have like they're they're
making a bad name for us. The cops are on
to us, like, you know, you can't keep treating this
shit like like it like this is okay, Like we
in the shadows to exist with humans. We can't be
like showcasing this shit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Yeah, and we get the sense that basically what we
have here are what are basically vampire elders of these
elder sects of vampires, and Frost is an upstart sect
in a way he's mohammed.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
And in a way yes you could say.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Praise be unto him, but he is he's an upstart,
Like he's an upstart sect. He's a new sect, which
they don't really he's young blood yeah, well, and he's
not a pure vampire because he was turned. And that
was one of the first vampire lore elements of Blade
that I remembered right away when I was rewatching it.
As I even asked you, I was like, in this,

(01:12:42):
if you're born a vampire, you're a full vampire. They
don't take as much value. And if you're turned, which
is not a common vampire thing. The other vampire things,
the vampires aren't born. They're the only way they procreate
is by infecting the living, and this one, they're a
little bit more like a race, which is an interesting
take on it too.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Well, And this is Frost's whole explanation of like, you know,
the humans are cattle. We shouldn't be, you know, buddying
up with them. We should be owning them. We should
be feeding on them. We should rule this fucking world,
is his whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
We're apex predators, we should rule it. Which is a
funny way to look at it when it's like, you know,
what would really keep the blood supply great if the
most of the humans died and lived in and and
and fear and we're aware of you to protect themselves. Yeah,
I think that's a little dumb. Yeah, I would say so.
But but but that's the thing. Frost is brash as
to where when he talks to the other vampire leaders,

(01:13:31):
they're very thoughtful, they're clearly educated. I mean they're probably
three four, five hundred years old too, but they're like
very thoughtful, educated, aware of the history. But then we
find out really soon after that Frost is like hanging
out in the archives where the vampires keep all of
their like religious artifacts of sorts, the vampire the history

(01:13:51):
of it. Yeah, yeah, but he's obsessed with translating parts
that have never been translated. It can't be translated because
there's no one to translate it. Yeah, because it's a
sad whole lang. Yeah, but I would say undead language.
But but it's funny because that's also really interesting for
young upstart because what's he doing. He's doing something that
literally everybody else already knows you can't do, and he's like,

(01:14:12):
I think I can though, which would rub them the
wrong way too. They'd be like, why would you be
able to do it and not you know, three thousand
years or whatever a vampire? You know history, Why couldn't
we have done it? If you can do it. Yeah,
but he also is like using technology. There's a lot
of elements of Frost that are very youthful futureh ism,
like like his focus on computers, his focus on technology,

(01:14:34):
but also his focus on opulence, his focus on narcissism.
Which I was trying to place that because it's the nineties,
so we're past the like the nineteen eighties yuppie thing.
But I feel like there's probably a theme that I
might not be picking up on because I grew up

(01:14:54):
in the nineties, but I was, like, you know, in
nineteen ninety eight, I was I was like thirteen or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
It's kind of fascinating too, because like if you if
you think about it, like Deacon Frost is he's really
in over his head, but he'll never admit it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Well, no, he's he's literally pure avarice. Yeah, I mean,
that's that's all he is. That's why they look down
on him. They're like, of course you're this way because
you're young, you know, like, of course you are. Of course.
My first thought when it was like we were born vampires, like, oh,
why are you old? That's fair? It's fair. I mean,
why are you old? Why aren't you all just babies.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Yeah, creepy babies, vampire babies.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
That's the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
So but yeah, so he ends up kind of getting
scolded by Udo Kir's character, and that leads us into
going back to Karen, which we find out that Karen
wakes up the next day and seems to be okay.
She doesn't know where she is, obviously, so she ends
up like sneaking out. She hears Blade and Whistler talking,
tries to escape, they hear her, and that's they basically
explain to her, like, you know, you're written by a vampire.

(01:15:51):
We think we've got it, but there's no guarantee.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Yeah, and and and while Blade seems very hopeful, Whistler
is very detached. Yes, And I think it's because he's like,
I don't want to talk to you and realize you're
a nice lady, yeah, and then have to kill you
because his entire backstory is people he loved were killed
or became vampires and had to be killed. Yeah. So

(01:16:15):
I like that element too, because as she is around
more and more, he starts to be because he mentions
like she's a hematologist. Yeah. And as soon as they
start to have a little bit of rapport he's like,
I'd really love you to look at what I've been
doing with these blood serums and stuff, because she's an expert.
So he's like really like wants to befriend her. Yeah,
but he's so afraid. He's like, great new friend to

(01:16:37):
kill well.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Because they basically she's like, you know, well in my
prisoner Haerent's like, no, you're free to go and blades
like you know, but just so you know, like since
the vampires know that, you know, now they're coming after you.
Oh god, yay, So like you know, get a gun
and also like if you start turning, like if some
light starts affecting you, like use it on yourself because
you're you're not gonna want to be a vampire. So yes,
she ends up. She ends up leaving and goes back

(01:16:59):
to her apartment. There's a cop that is well, there's
a whole little section where she's on the elevator and
she sees these markings that we started to see that
the vampire markings of ownership.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Which I like that because it's one of those things
where like once you know about something, you see it
every everywhere. You realize that it was already there was ubiquitous.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Yeah, so she's, you know, paranoid whatnot. He gets to
her apartment and this cop is, this cop is comes
into the apartment later and he's like, you know, hey,
we heard like that your worker said that you were kidnapped.
And she's like, what about my other my other worker,
And he's like, oh, Curtis he unfortunately passed and he's like, well,
you don't have to worry about that. And she's like
why and he's like, because you're dead too, revealing that
he's working for the vampires. But she thinks that he's

(01:17:37):
a vampire, so she prays him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
She sprays him with garlic, sprays yeah, pepper spring whistler
and gave her yeah yeah, garlic mace and I love
his reactional garlic. What do you think about vampire? And
then Blade's just right there, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Well and I love it too because we said this
last night. He's just fucking up her apartment with with
hating this guy, like throwing him all over the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
PI, the third piece of furniture he breaks. She even goes,
is this necessary? She even says it is this necess
because my first thought was like, can't you just punch
him really hardly? Three times.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Yeah, because we find out that he's basically an Aaron
boy for the vampires. He's not turned up familiar, he's
a cop. He's a cop that's working for them. He
deals blood and takes it to the locations needs to.
So Blade ends up letting him go essentially because she's
going they have him at the car trunk because they
find the blood that he's carrying, and Blade's about to
shoot him in front of everybody, everybody like yeah in

(01:18:24):
the city. So she ends up intervening. He ends up
getting away, and Blade's like, you know, you got to
wake up like this, this whole world that you see,
like this is just a sugarcoated fantasy, Like this is
actually the real, dark, deep shit that's going on between here,
and if you don't wise up, you're going to be
one of the next.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
And then just pants over to Tommy Lee Jones and
uh and uh, what's his name? Will Will Smith? And
Tommy Jones is like he has no idea sport.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
So Blade ends up trailing the cop, which I think
is I think his name is Crease if I'm not mistaken,
and he ends up they end up following him to
another club because now Karen's just gonna be working with
him because she's like, you know, well, I can't be
safe unless you're with me at this point yause I'm
probably dead meat.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Well, she's also pretty bad at him. She's like, I
was bait and he's like, get over it, Yeah, get
over it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
So yeah, So he ends up following him to another club,
and this leads us to a scene where Deacon Frost
is we see him in the archives of Udo. Kir's
character comes up to him and he's like, you know,
why are you translating the text? Like it's a dead language,
like no one can translate it, and Frost just has
his headphones in is ignoring him, and d Care goes, damn, Frost.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
I'm talking to you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
It's like, Dad, you don't get it, okay, and he
answer slapping him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Yeah. Yeah, so and and so if I'm remembering correctly, so,
because this movie it's great. Yeah, but it's basically Blade
in this woman and kind of like the undercurrent is
she's going to become a vampire, and then also that
Blade wants to kill all vampires. Yeah, and then the
b story is basically the internal beef in the vampire world.

(01:19:51):
With frost usurping power until they combined. Yeah, obviously they're
going to intersectfully.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Combined quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
So yeah, like, uh so he ends up taking Blade
to uh a place where you can access the archives.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Yeah, it's so they takes him to this bar because
you follow it. He followed Kreeger's his name, not cree
It follows Kreeger to this bar, which is uh there
there's a there's a bunch of vampires that are out
front of the valetser vampires, the dormant or vampires inside
there's a vampire show going.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
On, yeah, which is creepy. Yeah. It's literally almost all
Asian businessmen watching little two school girls girls singing bands. Yeah. Yeah,
I I felt ways. I was just like, uh okay,
but they do they do point out that there's like
they don't say it, but I mean it's very clear

(01:20:42):
that there's no real racial line. Yeah, with vampires, there's
because like in the leadership space, there are vampire leaders
from all over the world. You know, they're they're black ones,
white ones. Uh you know, I don't I didn't see
a single Hispanic one.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
I think those are in the second.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
No, you know why two Catholic can't beat him fair,
so I'm proud. So Kreeger sees Blade, of course, and
he run. He starts running, Blades right behind him. He
ends up kicking his ass in the kitchen and he's like,
you know, where are where are the archives?

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Like where were you taking the blood to? And he's like,
it's in the freezer and Blade thinks he's fucking with it,
so he beats him up another time. He's like, no, man,
I'm serious. So Blade opens the door and we just
see this cavern.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Yeah, and he just goes down into this like Bruce
Wayne Level cave, yeah, Barbarian cave. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
So they end up following it down there, and that's
when we run into Pearl, which is this gelatinous Java
the Hut esque creature, like like it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Larger bodied individual. David, my apologies, please be careful, you
know words, wait till you hear.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
What the how they had to put Pearl in this
movie in regards to the set design.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
So this was a disturbing scene I remembered even as
because she's literally so big that she can't get up,
she can't walk or anything, and she just I'm assuming
that they just feed her blood and like while she
sits there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Cut out, cut out plot element with children. It was
like specifically eight children, so.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
You're gonna be like, you're gonna like uh uh blood
and large like it was cut but.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Yeah, specifically like Bobby Yaga, the children. I think there's
a whole element of like the hell boy lore that
Bobby Yaga strictly a children. That's kind of the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
With Bobby Yaga was like the like the Boogie the
Woman Boogieman, and some cultures and stuff like that. The
the Brujas of Portugal and Spain, which my grandpa used
to tell me all the scary stories you heard about,
which is supposedly living Oh yeah in the village you
grew up in. Yeah, his grandma used to tell these
stories about that and the uh I don't know the Portuguese.
I don't speak Portuguese. I don't speak Portuguese. But uh

(01:22:49):
he's it's the uh Omre Dessaco is what they call
him in Spanish cultures. That's how I learned about him later.
But my grandpad tell me the stories like there was
no no flavor either. I mean he just told them
to me as a little kid. So we didn't use
any Portuguese words. He was just like this guy with
a sack, sacks full of kids body parts. And I

(01:23:12):
remember because my Grandpa would tell me. I'm like whoa,
And then when I got older, I'd be like remember
that story about the guy with the sack. He was
like yeah. I was like, you didn't wander away from
grandma much, did you? And he was like hell no,
he was like five. Yeah. Yeah. She's just like yeah,
yeah it was they just picked some guy. Yeah, walking
out street. You had a sack and'd be like full
of children's body parts, like bad god body parts.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
So so Pearl has like monitors in front of her,
is also translating the vampire text as well, and also
has Deacon Frost like basically on video chat and starts
freaking out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Because blades here. I guess they have reflections.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Yeah, I guess. So, so starts freaking out because like,
oh my god, blades here, Frost, you said you protect me,
And of course Deacon's like, you know, hey, Pearl, you
know shit happens, like die with some fucking dignity.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Sorry, and did they interact with Blade briefly?

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
He's just like hey, Blade, I've already been looking for me,
and Blade's like, yeah, I'm gonna find you. See and
he's like yeah, okay, closes the laptop.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Basically, I love by the way side really quick side
note when he's talking to what's her Karen? Karen? Yeah.
When he's talking to her, he says at one point like,
forget all the bullshit you've heard in movies. These are real,
And all I wanted to respond with was like, what bullshit?
I'm not a freaking nerve. I kind of wanted to
say that just because I'd be like, Hey, I'm the
one sitting here in my living room alone watching Blade well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
And I also love to because we we glossed over it.
When they go back to see Whistler the initial time
after the first running with Kreeger, he gives him this
UV flashlight thing that he's been working on, and there's
my favorite exchange where he goes, pretty, it's still so heavy,
Well you're so big. He just looks like like, just
well you're so big. Yeah, No, they're and they're they're

(01:24:45):
back and forth. Is so good and it's so solid
and it's very it's very.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Mentor well, but it's it's more than that, because like
I said, there's definitely Whistler has this degree of separation. Yeah,
but it's clear that Blade has broken that. Yes, but Whistler,
but it's almost like that's his personality now too, because
it's been so long. Yeah, so he's just used to it.
He knows that, Like Whistler's never gonna like give me
a hug or anything. But Whistler will like he'll you know,

(01:25:12):
I'll know by when I when I got into a
really bad fight and I walk in there, I can
see the concern on his face. He wants me to
be okay. Yeah. So well it's a really.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Sweet and Blade Blade not only you know this says
the comment about you know, he makes the weapons I
use him, but also like Blade's aware that like Whistler's
kind of dying because Whistler has cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Not kind of dying, dyes, dying dying ye yeah, yeah,
which I guess that's why he was. He wasn't holding
back on those Marlboroughs.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Yes, not no, there's light one hundreds because that's it
actually did was it just the box? The box? But
also the cigarettes look like like one hundreds, I will say.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Because usually they hide the you know they they don't
show the actual logos.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Yeah, at one point, at one point in the movie,
you briefly see like the outline of Whistler's cigarettes's smoking,
and then you also see the cigarette at one point,
and uh, they look like light one hundreds. And I
was telling the guys last night. For Whistler to smoke those,
I just doesn't seem like his character, like Marlboro reds
all the way.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
I just imagine it was like my little Asian lady
doctor told me, I can't smoke the strong ones no more.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
At least it wasn't a pipe, which they totally could
have smoked a pipe.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Oh my god, that would have destroyed him.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
Cigar would be more fitting, obviously. Oh but I think
the only person that smokes cigar and this is Donald log.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I can imagine he has a
beautiful humid or of Dutch masters and white owls. I
choose from so back to Pearl.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Pearl's freaking out obviously, and blades like you know what
what is in this vampire text they see? We see
this diagram basically of this cube that closes and they
go down in this cavern and like there's gonna be
like several people sitting around the circle with one person
in the middle that's gonna inherit this power.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
Like that's all really that we can tell. So, yeah,
it's a kind of it's a prophecy, like a like
a end of time. Yeah, prophecy thing. Yeah, And it's
pretty obvious even before he fully says it that the
reason Frost is so who gives a shit about Blade
is because he needs Blade to blade. He wants Blade around. Yeah,
Blade's part of his plan. It. Yeah, very obvious because
Frost is while he is reckless, he's not crazy. No,

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he's not. That's very clear that he's calculated. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
So, uh, Pearl ends up getting killed because the UV
light get ends up getting used and ends up frying
because Karen is the one handling it and tortures Pearl.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
So she dies because someone kills her.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Yeah, yeah, dies because someone kills her. Dies because the
UV light fucking melts her.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Yes, yes, boy does it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
Probably smells wonderful to me?

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Oh well, I mean there are so many smells in
Blade I can only imagine, but prefer only imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
So but but while the before the death happens, like
Blade's asking questions and it's just like, Okay, well you
don't mind that if I go in this room right
here where this door is, blows this door open to
the Archives after Pearl is dead, revealing all the vampire
texts of the Bible in glass cases. Yeah, so they
are right in the heart of all this. While they're
looking around and like he's explaining it to Karen, we

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see this little girl literally running around the archives and
Blade catches onto it and he starts following her and
goes to help her, only revealing that it's a t
because now Donald log and his goons have showed up
and they are ambushing them and actually start beating Blade
and even taking the sword.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Yeah, which reveals that his sword has a trap mechanism,
which we saw foreshadowed earlier. Yeah, which blows a guy's hand,
blows a guy's hand off. I love Donald Logue just
becoming a molted milk dud throughout this movie, and like
the moment he heals a little bit, he just even
more sucked up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Yeah, because not only does that so they got the
guy's hand gets completely blown off and Donald Loag is
just laughing about it. But then we also see that
Blade obviously never leaves without backup. So Whistler is close
by blows a hole in the side of this building
with one of my favorite lines.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Which just catch you fuckers at a bad time and
and I love that. The only things I know about
Whistler are he has cancer, yeah, and he doesn't believe
in cover. He does not anytime he's fighting. He stands
in the middle of the room just shoot, just shuting gun. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
So he just starts laying waste to the rest of
of Deacon's men and whatnot. Blade and Karen end up
escaping out into this area that is a huge subway tunnel,
so they are like grabbing the side of this, hugging
the side of this is these trains are going by
like every few seconds, and this leads into a chase
with the other vampires coming after them. There's a whole
fight that occurs between donald Logue and Blade, but also

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we see Whistler go down into a manhole at one point,
so he escapes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Fine, very ninja turtle, very ninja turtles, Like I wanted
him to drop that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
So this also leads us to Blade literally taking Quinn
Donald Logue running his head against the train as it
goes past only after he chopped his arm off again
again again.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Yeah yeah. Donald Logue is highly memorable in this, and
he keeps not dying, keeps getting really really hurt and
then not dying.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
So they end up jumping onto the back of the
train with Blade grabbing the black back of the train
while holding onto Karen, which was wow yeah, which I
love it too because they also they don't show anything
after that. He just grabs onto it and it's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Well, we see him whip a bit, which was what
made me go, ho shit, it was really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Yeah. So Kreeger ends up returning to Deacon Frost's hide
out with injured Quinn, who is pissed off and out
at this point too. And uh, Kreeger ends up getting
killed because he's pissed Deacon off at this point and
that's when the whole interaction.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Deacon would just kill a guy, throws.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Him in his little uh what is it infinity pool
he's got out front of his house, the apartment. Yeah,
with the ducky flipping. Did you see, by the way,
what they're watching on TV? Like, well, the parties there,
it's Mortal Kombat. It's the first Mortal.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
Kombat movie d D D D D d D.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
So Deacon's host Anmmortal Kombat party.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Wouldn't you, I mean if you were a vampire? Oh
yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
So that is when we also get the reveal that, uh, basically,
Deacon Frost, with his little whole shindig thing, is trying
to awaken the blood god Lamagra, and Lamagra can only
be awakened basically by using Blade's blood because that is
the chosen One's blood. What would we find out?

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
I like that the name is Lamagra after it's like
it came from a dead language and then you guys
translated it and then it became Spanish sounding. I yeah,
But I like the the reaction though, when they're like,
like when the lead vampires hear that, they're just kind
of like, you're trying to summon Lamagra a fairy tale,
which I thought that was just a really cool. Side

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notice that it's like, oh yeah, people whisper about that,
but nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
Believe nobody believes it. Yeah, but well, because they also
need the twelve pure blood vampires along with Blades for
this this ritual to go, which leads into Quinn being like,
you know, why are we keeping this guy alive, like
why why can't we just kill him? And he's like
I need Blade and like, you know, when the time comes,
we'll kill Blade, but like you know, till now, just
chill out, which then was the great cut because you
have Deacon and and Donald Loglake face to face, and

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then we cut over to the scene where there's two
faces in a car like kissing, but it turns out
it's Mercury Deacon Frost's woman.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
Yeah, So we reveal that they've kidnapped Udo Kir's character,
the the like head chancellor vampire guy, and they're going
to cook his ass in the sunlight.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Yeah yeah, Well they're not just making out. They're putting
on the sun prified sunscreen. Yeah, that would be I
just want to get a bronzer on. But it's like
they're wearing it and it's so thick and it makes
them look even more ghoulish, which is pretty cool. And
this whole sequence where he kills zudo Kire is really interesting.
He's just talking to him and then slowly starts undressing him, yes,

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which is interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Well, not to mention, he steals his fangs because he
needs to have proof that like he's in charge.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Now he rips his fangs, he defangs him. Yeah, literally, because.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
Deacon is just like, you know, oh yeah, how long
has been you've seen a good sunset? Oh that's right,
you're up here blood like you've never seen him had
a pleasure. Well, guess what, we're gonna enjoy it together. Yeah,
And he basically is like Frost, like you're never gonna win,
and he's like, you just don't fucking get it. So
he takes his teeth and they put on biker helmets
and biker gear to protect themselves while udo Kre just
opens the arc of the Covenant.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
When the sun melt splode, Yeah, he melts blows melt slow, yes, yes,
and right around the same time, by the way, although
it's not like a scene worth breaking up a ton,
Karen is with Blade, who's hurt, and he ends up
injecting himself with the serrum, and that's where we get
full confirmation that he's a kind of vampire. She says,
you're one of them, and he says, no, I'm something else.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
Well, because he earlier in the movie, like very early on,
he goes to see this guy that has the garlic
shop and whatnot, like the yes, and shop. And that's
when we get the idea that he's like, you're a
week early, and he's like, yeah, I need it already.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
I was afraid you would get a tolerance, you'd build
a tolerance. So he's injecting a kind of garlic serum himself. Yeah,
and it seemed like what he injected himself with that
was like blood to give him power, because we find out,
you know, very soon that Whistler found him, he was
killing people when he.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
Was youellmeless people, yeah, and homes.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
And Whistler ended up taking him under his wing and
trying to figure out ways to help him not be
a full blown almost killed vampire. Yeah yeah, well and
and well, and I'm sure he was ready to shit
himself when he saw him walk in the daylight. Probably, yeah,
that would be that would be the bad day when
just like I had vampires and then one's just walking
out of the seven eleven, You're like fuck yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
So so yeah, we also get around this time that Karen.
It's a hilarious scene because Karen's just like, you know, yeah,
I want to show you something, and she like puts
this test together with dropping this one drop on the
slide under the microscope and Blade goes look in the
microscope completely.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
Tells him like, step back, it's highly reactive. He's like,
it was down and it blows up, and Whistler is
highly amused, which which I like that too because it
plays off the idea that Blade is a little comically serious. Yeah,
by having that moment where even Whistle yeah, should have listened.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
To her kid and he's just like, you know, this
is a Karen. She's like, well, no, I thought maybe
you could explode some vampire heads with it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
I love that lie, Not not exactly, I figured you
could explode some vampire heads with its. Like.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
So this leads then to Blade going or to Deacon
going to the board and basically tells them I'm in
charge now at this point and essentially kidnaps them from
this point.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Yeah yeah, so change of pace, he starts kidnapping.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Kidnap have you movie man?

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
So uh.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
That is when Karen is confident, though also with what
she's doing with Whistler, that they are able to hopefully
fight a cure for Blade, but they don't know well
for her hopefully Blade and hopefully Blade, yeah, for her
specifically because yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
She's so early in her infection there's a higher likelihood.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
Well, and Whistler even says at one point, because she's
in the bathroom and you can see that she's weak,
and he's like, you know, you don't look so good,
and he goes to peel the band aid back and
he's like, I guess we didn't catch it in enough time.
I'm sorry, maybe two. Yeah, so she is kind of
down to the clock at this point. So this leads
into Blade is walking the street looking for Deacon, gets
like a spiky sense almost daylight daylight. Yeah, he's in

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the daylight looking for Deacon Frost and it gets like
a spidy sense. And across the street we see Deacon
is you know, looking at him, but also has like
a little girl that he's holding on too.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
And it's in Chinatown. Yeah, so here's the thing. I
didn't get a sense of a spidy sense. What I
got was that that feeling I could see like you're.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Being watched, hunted.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
Yeah, you know, you know, a sunny Land and predator.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
The edit is just weird because like you have kind
of like the and like zooming and then it's just
well because.

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
Because he's across the street, and they use it's very
Jaws like they're using the passing trucks, yeah, to like
help kind of separate things and cut back and forth. Yeah.
So but I just got the sense that it was
more than he just knew like something dangerous as watching me,
and that's like built into you to know that. So Deacon, uh,
you know, is just like wow, bled, like I can't
believe in front of you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
Like he's kind of like a big fan like kind
of thing almost, And it tells him that, you know,
he wants to make a truce. He doesn't want to
fight him, He doesn't want you know, he wants to
be able to be able to come together and they
can have this you know, bond and like he can
use them, they can they can rule the human race together.
And Blade straight it was just like no, fuck you, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
Well, and he's also played to think he's like, what
you think the humans will ever accept you? Yeah, Like
I'm your shot at being accepted. Yeah, I'm the one
person who would believe you're totally cool with me. Yeah,
And even with the haircut and and.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
Blade rejects him, and Deagan gets pissed. He ends up
throwing the little girl across the street into a hot
dog cart that like just breaks apart when she hits it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
No, she's like, it's a full blown like slams, shatter,
and and so he shoots it, Deacon, and that's when.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
We see bullet time bullet time pre matrix.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
But also it's we have never seen a vampire do
that before, so it suggests that Deacon's into something. He's
got something going on, something's going on where he's becoming
really powerful.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Yeah, So he goes to save little girl, she was
hit by a bus. He saves her, He's like, you know,
get home. So by this point now he knows that
him and Deacon are going to have to have a showdown.
So this all leads to back to the hideout where
we see that Karen and Whistler are still there and
unfortunately Deacon and his men invade.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
Yeah, and Whistler kicks some serious ass, but there's just
too many of them fucking drops that gun from the
top of that light man. Yeah, it's just it was
just it was just it was one of those hanging
fluorescents yea, and it was just on top of it
was a full blown shot full of vampire killing round. Yeah.
And he gets a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:37:45):
Karen even gets one too, but unfortunately Deacon his men
seize them, so Blade ends up coming back.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
He comes back to.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
See Whistler is covered by this bloody sheet, which I
love because I found out in the trivia he actually
is looking away because he was laughing every time he
pulled it down. So that's why he's doing that, like
it has dramatic effect in there, but yeah, every time
you want to do it, like either him or Christofferson
would start laughing apparently okay, so but yeah, Christofferson's just like,
you know they took Karen. You know I've I've been

(01:38:12):
you know, I'm I'm I'm dead, So go ahead and
give me your gun and then walk the fuck away
is basically what he says. And I love it too
because while Whistler's like explaining, like, you know, you got
to stop Deacon, he's got the pages like he's gonna summon.
At this point, Blade's just wiping the blood off his
neck and like off these spots. Yeah, as he's talking and.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
He's trying to convince him like maybe it'll be okay,
these aren't so bad, and he's like, nah, maybe, Well,
and the saddest, sweetest part. This is the scene that
stuck with me forever after I first saw it. Yeah,
is he tells him give me your gun, and then
he's like, now just walk away, Like he doesn't even
want him to have to witness this. He's like, you've
seen enough.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Yeah, walk the fuck away. Yeah, So he walks away.
We hear the gunshot go off, we see the hand
drop with the gun. So now Blade is assembling for
the final showdown and he's getting all his toys together,
include a motorcycle that he ends up running into Deacon's building.
But before we get to that, there's a whole early
on at Deacon's party, we saw that he has this

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coffin bed thing that you were obsessed with because it's
like sci fi.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
My only problem is that like lowers and locks. Yeah,
and I was like, again, it's a coffin, but like,
does it serve a purpose besides just being really cool? Yeah?
In a white room.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
So but this woman walked out and like put her
hand on Deacon. We didn't really see much of her,
but we just see a little bit of her early on.
So then they're back at this penthouse. Karen's been kidnapped obviously,
and Deacon kidnapping. Deacon's trying to like explain to her,
like you know what's going on, and Karen has no,
you know, no being She's just like, you know, you're
you're just like some two bit crime at this point,

(01:39:44):
like I don't crook, Yeah, stupid, And so he's just like, no,
I'm ahead of the fucking food chain, and like you're
about to learn along with the rest of the world,
like what my power can do. And right at this
point we hear that Blade is ambush in the building.
He runs his motorcycle through the glass, starts taking out
guards left and right, and cclude using the blood exploders,
so pops one into one guy's chest.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Pops one very late nineties CGI.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Looking like Gusher's commercials, though the vampires explode like Gushers.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
Yeah, try the new Gushers extreme him a Globin.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
So this ends up leading Blade into that room with
that coffin. The coffin opens revealing Blade's mom.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
Yeah, his mother's not dead after all, and.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Also reveals that Deacon Frost was the one that turned
his mother into a vampire and essentially created Blade.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
Which means basically pulled the Burtons Batman. Yeah, they were like,
uh uh, whatever I do, I'll catch who killed my parents. Well,
good news, the guy you're fighting did it. He did it. Yeah,
how convenient.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
How convenient. So naturally, Deacon and his men come in
ambush Blade. They kidnap Karen and Blade once again and
take them to this huge temple. At this point, did they.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Ever establish the idea or suggest in any way that
Deacon made Blade on purpose? No, because now that I'm
looking back on it, the chosen one, ale Elm and
others everything, because how long did he know? He might
have known about this stuff for a long time. Yea,
it's entirely could have play. And then also there's that
whole part earlier races like I know everything about you,
your mother Whistler like he's like, I'm a big fan,

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I know everything. Party's like, maybe he's just been maybe
because he knew his starting point. Yeah, he could follow
it very well, could be so.

Speaker 3 (01:41:18):
Yeah, So they take them to the Temple of Eternal
Night at this point, and we see Blade is taken
up to the top of the temple and put into
this chamber that basically cuts him open, drains all the
blood into this really articulate, like little cylinder that drains
down onto the twelve vampire.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Uh yeah, and his mother is used to basically push
him into into that, and she's trying to in a
very incestuous way, trying to convince him, like it's time
to just be a vampire. It's time to like lean
into this stuff. It's a really great scene, not much
to talk about because it's it's just intense.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
Yeah, and it's visually is where it's at because basically
the chamber closes, the blood starts going. We see so
many different ways of this blood is coagulating and dripping
down onto them. But also Karen is thrown into a
pit inside this temple where Curtis from the movie This
is I like that scene, but like it's kind of
a weird callback.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
Yeah. Basically, he'd been thrown into a pit where he's
barely fed. He's a vampire zombie. Yeah, yeah, he'll eat anything,
vampires anything, And.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
He comes at her and then she climbs up and
that's it, which.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
Is important to point out though he's been a like
he was infected like three days ago.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
Yeah, yeah, and he's been in this pit for three
days and has to figure out that he can climb
out just like Karen.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
That was funny when she just kind of grabs a
femur bone, knocks him down and times out. But I
also get why she was able to beat him him
he's weak. Yeah, and they assume that she will not
be able to carry your own because she's mostly human
and a little tiny lady. But as I know because
of my mother, Uh huh, you don't underestimate it, Karen,
You don't, You do not, Karen, Karen.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
So also we miss too that Blade has the exploding
blood injections with him, and Deacon mistakes it for a serum,
so he throws it up into the cavern, being like, oh,
you're not gonna need this anymore. So the explosive cerems
are resting inside the cavern not too far of his
read so keep that in mind. Oh yes, yes, so,
but yeah, they end up going through the ritual. We
see the blood dripped down onto the twelve Disciples.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Yeah, that Deacon's girlfriend kills one of the disciples out
of anger earlier, and then nothing seems to come of it,
like they still everything still works, And I was like,
I thought they had to have each one but she
like kills him with blade sword. Yeah, like you know,
turns into ashes, turns to ashes. Yeah. So that part
confused the shit out of me. Oh yeah, wait, but
how does it still work when like one of the

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main guys is gone. Yeah, I mean Deacon Frost.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
Uh, he has a lot, like you've already said, he
has a lot in common with Joker's henchman kind of thing.
Like there's a lot of that similarity there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
Yeah, he has a lot kind of Joker coding in
some ways. But he's not crazy, not crazy, but in fact,
one of the funny things. And i'll since we're getting
to the thrilling conclusion, yeah, I'll mention I knew a
lot of people when I was growing up who were
obsessed with Deacon Frost.

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
Oh I could see that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
I knew a very cringey dude who insisted his nickname
b Frost. Okay, he grew up to be David Denyer.
No I'm kill you. No, No, I I know Draven,
I know you weren't you weren't Deacon Frost Draven? Uh No,
But uh, one thing about Deacon he's not I mean,
I don't find him to be very cool. He's a

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petulant child. Yeah, that's probably the biggest you know, kind
of character trade he has. Other than being very smart, he.

Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
Literally gets out smart and super simply in my opinion,
like that's avarice.

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
I mean, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's he denies that
he can because he's fulfilling a prophecy and all this stuff.
I mean, that's that's a fair point. But I mean,
like he's smart as in he was able to research
all this stuff, he was able to get everybody together
the way was he had like a plan for everything.
But he's also just this petulant, me, me me, narcissistic child. Yea.
And even some of the elder vampires say, like, you
are all going to die if he when he does

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what he's going to do. Yeah, like you'll be no different.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
Well, I love the fact that, like, so when the
bloods are driving on the on the elder vampires, you know,
they start having like the whole cursed.

Speaker 1 (01:45:00):
Thing happened to them. But the fucking demons that literally
like open their their skeleton angels.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Yeah, skeleton angel like skin their mouths and.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
Fly out of flying with no uh no wing. I
mean their wings are bones, but it's really awesome looking,
even for you know, Cgi of that era. It looks
pretty awesome. And they're spinning around, flying around, they start
flying through Deacon giving him their power. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
So by this point, Karen has gotten back to Blade.
She's opened the chamber up and she's like, you know,
feet on me, like get your power back. So Blade
ends up, you know, feeding on her, and by this point,
Frost has completely transitioned into Lemagra.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
Well there's a great part where somebody goes Frost, he
goes not not anymore. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
So uh and of course, naturally with Blade being Blade,
he has to shout Frost's name several times as he's
trying to get to him.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
I kept imagining that, like he's like punching of Frost,
punching guy Frost, punching guy Frost.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
So the gets down to gets down to Frost, but
at first Quinn has to come to him, which Quinn
thinking that he can hit him with a knife and
that's gonna do the thing, whereas Blade just takes a
line and decapitates him to get his sunglasses back, as
the techno music soars.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
Damn right, yeah, And once he puts the sunglasses on
you're like, I it's time.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
So he starts laying waste of frostmen once again, and
you know he's doing the sword tricks. Karen's also fighting
Mercury upstairs, which he ends up having a really awesome
kick and killing her ass.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
Yeah she does sticker and then kicked the kick it
in deeper.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
Yeah yeah, so so yeah, Karen deals with Mercury, and
eventually Frost and Blade have their face off, and Blade,
apparently not realizing how powerful Frost is, goes to cut
him in his arm, then cuts him at the waist
and we see the blood reconnect and come back, and
Blade has the turnaround of yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
He mouths mouths yeah, which when when I when I
saw that, I was like, for real, yeah, And I
want to say. All I can think of from Deacon
is when he like like falls apart that sucks back together.
It might be a virtuosity oh yea, which uh phenomenal
I love. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
So naturally, Blade is realizing what he has to do,
so he sees that his injection his blood syringes are
up there, so he throws the sword up. The sword
does the little thing that the trap and kicks the
rocks down. He catches them and just starts throwing them
into Deacon as Deacon leaps up in the air, comes down,
and Deacon has his own Gusher's moment as he just
becomes a huge creature and then blows up. But right

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before he does that, my favorite line from Blade is
some of the fuckers always trying to ice skate up hill.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
Which I've heard that repeated for you know, for a
joke so many times.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
Yeah, so Deacon fucking explodes, and you know that is
the end of Deacon Frost. Blade and Karen leave the
temple together, and then we cut to basically the epilogue,
which is that Karen is like, you know, let's get
back to the heigh out. We'll try the cure, and
Blade's like, now I've still got work to do, leaves
it or yeah, go.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
Well, we forgot to mention because it's so much happened
to that little bit when she says like I have
this cure that will hopefully work, she has to warn
She's like, you won't be even a day walker anymore.
You would just be a human. Yeah, and that's why
he's saying, like, I've got more work to do. Yeah,
you know, I can't I can't stop being a day
walker because I've got to kill all these vampires. So

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we cut over to Moscow.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
There's a man and a woman walking in a nice
snowy a night in Moscow and he we see a vampire.
I didn't notice. This is the first my notices the
vampire symbol is on that building. Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
so naturally.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
It's hard to see. Everything's blue, but it's red. Yeah,
so it doesn't stick out at all. So the woman gets.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
Grabbed by the throat and the dude's vamping out, and
that's when we hear Blade go, do I catch it
a bad time?

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
Comrade? And Blade starts charging in Russian? Yes? Is it
in Russian?

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
So they start charging each other, and that is nineteen
ninety eight Blade.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
No, it's like some of those later like Stallone movies.
It kicks ass to the point of being funny. Oh yeah,
Like like at some point You're like, Wow, this guy's
such a badass that I'm laughing, like Cobra Coke. There
were multiple times where Stallone's so cool in that that
it's funny. It's not even cool any it's hilarious. But

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I I love Blade. I've always loved Snipes. I felt
that he's I think even with how popular he was,
I think he was still underrated. Oh yeah, I think
that even when he was the most sought after movie star,
he was still underrated.

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
One of my favorite roles of his is like one
of his big out break rolls is out Break, big
breakout rolls, major league him is Willie May's Hayes.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
No, he's so, he's so good when he's subtle. But Blade,
he just owned it, you know, down to the to
the bone. Yeah. And I really was impressed because it
had been a very long time since I saw Blade.
I think I've only seen Blade one. I've seen two
as well, but I don't think I saw Blade Trinity.
And I keep hearing you know anything, So I mean
we'll watch it something, Oh, yes, we will. So would

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you like to guess what the budget was on Blade?

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
Forty five?

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
Forty five on the nose the nose, no way, yeah, forty.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
For the record, I did not cheat. Yeah, I wouldn't
if I had had knowledge. That was just guessed on
the era and what they used to spend on blockbusters
that weren't Terminator Too or or whatever. So and and
also like Weirdly enough, the blockbusters that were somewhat of
a surprise surprise, I mean, Blade was gonna be a
big movie. Yeah, tended to not be one hundred million

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dollar movies. They tended to be still in that like
safer target.

Speaker 3 (01:50:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
Yeah, wow, I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
Believe I nailed it so far forty five million on
the nose opening weekend, which is August twenty third of
ninety eight. It goes and makes seventeen million, grossing in
US and Canada seventy million, and ends up grossing worldwide
one hundred and thirty one million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
Wow. So it was a hit well, and it's important
to keep in mind in this era too. It probably
made you know, four million bookou on video well and
pay per view. Yeah, that's something you know, people forget about. Yeah,
there used to be. Do you ever You probably never
ordered pay per view?

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
Oh we didn't match Adams. No, no, no, no, we
had we had to call the box in and we
had to we had to.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Wait till the time. Oh yeah, wow, Okay, I thought
I thought.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
You were too you were too young that we saw
patch Adams. I remember one of my.

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
Favorite times they used to they introduced this thing later
on before on demand became a thing where you would
just pay and we'd give you twenty four hours of
the channel that laded the movie. I saw Spice World
so many times in a one twenty four hour period.
I just got switched into the channel and going out
watch Spice Work. Did you did you ever?

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
Have?

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
You had the scrambled of guessing the scrambled at one
point so you could actually like hear the movie, but
like yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:26):
Say yeah, except for the one channel. Everybody went to
that one, the one they didn't let the sound beyond it. No,
they didn't let that one. So body counts eighty eight?
Oh Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
The shooting starts in February fifth of nineteen ninety seven,
wraps June sixth, and now you say Hey, my birthday Hey.
Shot in Long Beach, Los Angeles, California, London, England, Moscow, Russia,
and Vancouver, Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
Blade first appeared in the comic The Tomb of Dracula
number ten, which was July of nineteen seventy three. In
the comics, Blade's mother was a prostitute named Tara Brooks
and was killed by Deacon Frost during Eric's birth. She
never becomes a vampire.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
Though well that's uh, at least that was always the
convenience of this of the because I'm pretty sure Joker
didn't kill No Batman's parents in the comics. Ever, in the.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
Original Marvel comic storyline, the character of Blade was English,
not American.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
When David as Goyer first pitched the idea of doing
a Blade movie, the executives a New Line felt there
were only three actors who could possibly do the role,
Wesley Snipes, Denzel Washington, and Lawrence Fishburne. But in Goyer's mind,
Snipes was always the perfect choice for the character of Blade.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
Yeah, I think Denzel, it wouldn't work well Denzel would
You would have to change it because he can play
a badass. But yes, he's always believable. I don't I
don't know if I've seen him go big.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
He goes big a little bit at the end of Ricochet,
but that's really about it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
I mean big, like like being Blade or because like
even when he's the equalizer, he's still like you believe
that he's a guy.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
And I mean as far as Laurence fishburn goesurn, Fishburne
has the chop, I mean deep cover is a movie
I cannot recommend enough if you want to see how
good Fishburn can be.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
Yeah, I think that no, no offense to Fishburn. He's
just not fit like that. Like he's a big, tall,
tough guy. I just if Blade was was meant to
be the agile, like super martial arts guy, it's just
not not Fishburn. Yeah, that's all I mean. Like, if
Blade were more like the Punisher, yeah, then I could

(01:53:27):
see Fishburn. But but Blade is is he's so acrobatic,
and Snipe's having his experience with martial arts, and yeah,
Snipes is so clearly the one you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
Know who could have done it. But I mean it
was probably not the right time. Mario van Peebles, I
feel like people could do a good you know.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
I think in an alternate timeline where Blade only does
fifty five million at the box office, yeah, and then
gets a direct to video sequel, it's Van Peebles in
like two thousand and one, and we'd be doing a
podcast about like those peoples was are underrated? Pretty good,
it'd be us pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
Jet Lee was offered the part of Deacon Frost opted
to do Lethal Weapon four instead. Skeet Ulrich lobbied hard
for the role of Deacon Frost, but eventually was turned down.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Wow, ske would have done all right, He had done fine.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
Stephen Dorff modeled Frost on several other villains, especially Jack
Nicholson's Joker in nineteen eighty nine Batman.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
There is that part way goes wait till they get
a load of vampire me.

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
Chris Kossoftson's character Whistler, was created for Blade's cameo on
Spider Man the Animated series in nineteen ninety four. He
was liked so much by Marvel ceo that he was
adopted into the Marvel universe.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
Yeah, so the Spider Man the cartoon is where he
came from.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
Wow okay.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
Wesley Snipes was interested in doing a Blade movie adaptation
of Black or excuse me, a movie adaptation of Black
Panther comics. When he was offered the project, he said
that he was unfamiliar with Blade comics, seeing more of
a connection to the blaxplotation here is in the nineteen seventies.
I just approached him as this really cool character where
I'd get to do martial arts and wear a leather suit,
he said.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
I mean, and he nailed it. Well, but I think
that's what helped Blade so much, because in a time
period where superhero movies were occasional hits. Yeah, you know,
Batman was unusual. Superman was a thing until it wasn't
so much, you know. Really, Spider Man was the first
one to kind of break that mold after after only

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Batman was able to really make it happen in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:55:15):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
So I think that Blade not being an outwardly superhero
and more just an action movie, I think that actually
helped a lot. And it's a testament to Snipes. Yeah,
because no, I'm sure some people came into it going
like I read the comic. Yeah, but like our buddy
Jeff and that probably probably that's the only the one person.
But so Snipes being able to look at that and

(01:55:36):
be like, I'm a badass action star I can make
I can make Blade awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
Yeah he did, he did, No, he absolutely did. Wesley
Snipes was a fan of Hong Kong Martial Arts films
and wanted the film to have that kind of action,
which I think they nailed pretty well.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
Yeah, I would say so.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
An updated the Vampire Lore, Stephen Norington and David S
Goyer decided crosses wouldn't work against vampires, citing what if
a vampire was Jewish, why would a cross work against him?

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
And then John Carpenter was like, hold my dollar. Bill.

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
Karen was originally going to be played by a white actress,
but Wesley Snipes encouraged them to cast a black actress
for the role. Stephen Norenton and David A. Sgoyer called
the scene between Karen and Curtis a melrose Place segment,
placing a doll romantic segment in to law the audience
into false sense of security. The studio wanted to cut
the scene, but creators spot for it and it got
the strongest reactions at test screenings. It's in and it

(01:56:24):
stayed in.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
Here's my take real quick on Karen being black. Yeah,
I think that the reason that I mean, aside from
the actress is really good obviously, but I think the
reason that works is it really helps her remind him
and the audience of his mother. Yeah. Absolutely, a woman
who was bitten and didn't want as far as he knew,

(01:56:45):
didn't want to be a vampire, and then was lost
to the world. I really feel like that that gave
it that extra oom where she because she never she
never felt like just a love interest. If actually barely
felt like a love interest in a lot of ways.
And I like that because Blade is way single minded

(01:57:06):
killing all vampires. And no, that's one of the charms
of him is that he just that's what he does,
what he does. I mean, that's what he does what
he does.

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
Well, when Karen first meets Whistler, Blade can be seen
holding a map of New Orleans. This is not only
implies the city they are in, it is an homage
to the comic books. Many stories in the Blade series
occur in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
Well, New Orleans was a popular place to set vampires
a lot because of like the the combo of voodoo
hoodoo culture and yeah, yeah, and Rice's books and the
idea of like this, like and the the the combination
of like the plantations with the zombies, because zombies, the
original voodoo zombies were slaves. So there's a lot there

(01:57:45):
that makes sense for ever. And also it's just those
those big plantation mansions and swamps are just cool cemeteries
that have the bodies above the ground. Yeah, and and
new and New Orleans, downtown New Orleans, Like it's really
cool looking. There's a lot to to to that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, well, they've got a fucking vampire
and red dead.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
Well, I mean well, and well they put in Noose
Faratu basically, but yeah, yeah, it's it's all about that.
And plus I mean, you know, it was New Orleans
so good they put bad Lieutenant there.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
I love New Orleans. In the scene way where Blade
is chased to the subway, the subway train passing by.
All the passengers are cardboard cutouts with special effects man
among them.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
That's funny. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:58:24):
Stephen Norenton stated in the cause of Pearl's ob size
was a creature creature gaining a cannibalistic lust for infants
and children, as he loves to eat their hearts.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
Ew.

Speaker 3 (01:58:33):
Yeah, Pearl was so large that the set had to
be built around him. It was about seven hundred pounds
of latex skin that had to be moved from a forklift.
It took four people to perform, one at the head,
one at each arm, one operating the feet. He's surrounded
by the use of blood bags and debris, but originally
they wanted dead children scattered around as well, seeing as
Pearl was too big to move. Around easily and would

(01:58:54):
need easy way.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Gross. People don't think about enough what a massive change
it was when silicone became easy to use makeup option.
When everything was made out of latex, things were really heavy.
Oh yeah, crazy heavy.

Speaker 3 (01:59:13):
Yeah, a great Many handheld shots were accomplished with a
special anamorphic lens camera that also had single unit sound,
only one of its kind in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
Single unit sound, that's what it says. I don't know
what that means because they didn't record sound on film,
and that's I mean, that was a thing that stopped
in the sixties.

Speaker 3 (01:59:30):
Take it up at Charles IMDb.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
I you know, I will chuck, I'm coming.

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
Blade spins and leaves onto a ledge. But it was
a tricky move. They shot nearly ten tags, but each
time his body bounced on the wall and he missed
catching the thin ledge. They resolve the issue by having
snipe stunt double stick the landing.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
I mean, that's what he's for. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59:48):
The scene where Quinn attacks Karen in the hospital corridor
features lots of screaming, but they knew something was wrong
when Log started screaming too. During the tussle, he felt
his face He fell face first onto the hard floor
and completely dislodged his jaw. He had it broken in
an accident years prior, and opening his mouth too wide
and too fast caused it to unhinge. They were filming

(02:00:08):
it in an abandoned hospital, but had to rush to
a real one. But I've got this guy whose dresses
a third degree burn victim, essentially naked, running in with
his jaw hanging down. The room cleared out pretty fast.

Speaker 1 (02:00:18):
Where was that? I mean, because I know they filmed,
I'm assuming that the interiors are mostly Vancouver.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
That's I'm guessing.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
Yeah, wow, that's a hell of an afternose goes I
it was La. You know, a lot of them be like, yeah, yeah,
you're making a movie. But in vangcas over there probably like,
oh dear, what's all this?

Speaker 3 (02:00:32):
Then Quinna originally had a much smaller rule, but Donald
Log was so funny on set that his character was
expanded and he was allowed to add lib a good
portion of his dialogue, which you can tell if you
yeah him.

Speaker 1 (02:00:42):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00:43):
While discussing the character Deacon Frost, Wesley Snipe described him
as kind of a guy who ice skated uphill. Stephen
Norington and David aes Gooyer loved the phrase so much
they worked it into the film.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
Nice Wesley Snipes.

Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
Couldn't stop laughing at the scene where Blade tries to
help a dying whistler while wiping his extremely bloody body
with a small piece of gauze.

Speaker 1 (02:01:01):
It is a little silly.

Speaker 3 (02:01:03):
David os Goyer explained in the DVD commentary that the
scene where Karen touches Blade sword was originally longer, as
she went on to discover a weird hybrid infant of
some kind floating in a tank. It came with a
jump scare, and Goyer said he thinks it would have
scared the living shit out of the audiences, but new
Line felt it was too horrible.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
The idea of them just having like a newborn in
a tank, vampire or not, would be pretty weird.

Speaker 3 (02:01:23):
Yeah, I would say the scene where Karen and Deacon
are talking about the cure for vampiism initially ran a
bit longer and answered the question of how vampires would
feed if everybody was turned into a vampire.

Speaker 1 (02:01:32):
They would keep some.

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
Humans alive in a giant blood bags to harvest them.
The bags can be seen in the doorway during the
scene and later played an integral part in the plot
of Blade Trinity, and also has an underlying plot structure
for the movie Daybreakers from two thousand and nine, which
I cannot recommend that movie enough and we all know
you love David Baybreakers just says a great lore to it.
Stanley originally had a cameo that was ultimately cut from
the film. He played one of the cops that came

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into the Blood Club during the aftermath to discover Quinn's
body on fire.

Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
He was like, my, this club is full of blood.

Speaker 3 (02:02:01):
A deleted conversation from the script explained how Blade Sword
originally belonged to Whistler, who himself was part of a
long line of vampire hunters. Michael Morbius was used as
the main antagonist in Blade two, but the idea was
dropped when Marvel sold the character's rights to Artisan and
Entertainment to produce a standalone Morbius film. The Vampire on
the Rooftop and the alternate ending in Morbius is played

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by director Stephen Norington. Morbius eventually made his live action
debut in Morbius twenty twenty two, played by Jared leto Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:02:27):
So Artisan bought the rights and didn't do anything do
anything with it. Yeah, because Morbius was a big part
of the Spider Man cartoon I watch, yes, and that's
where I first saw Blade. Yeah, in that cartoon. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:02:38):
The first got of the film was one hundred and
forty minutes long and had a disastrous test screening with
audiences and heavy edits. Reshoots were implemented, which delayed the
release date more than half a year. The most significant
change was the addition of the final sword fight between
Blade and Deacon Frost, which did not exist in the
original version of the movie.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
Oh wow, Yeah, Yeah, it needed that little punch show.
It definitely did.

Speaker 3 (02:02:57):
The original ending had Frost becoming Lamagra and unleash the
blood Tide, which watches over the city turns everyone it
touches into vampires. The film ended with the vampires winning,
having caused the vampire Apocalypse. It was set up for
a proposed sequel where Blade and Karen would travel around,
hitting and destroying vampire food storage areas. The filmmakers didn't
know if there was going to be a sequel, so
it was changed.

Speaker 1 (02:03:17):
That's a lot. That's a very down ending.

Speaker 3 (02:03:19):
Yeah, the movie has a surprising amount of similarities with
The Matrix nineteen ninety nine. Both feature a character who
learns that really they live in a facade, it is
in fact, invisibly controlled by an outside force. There is
a small underground group of fighters battling the visible oppressors.
The protagonist is dressed in a long trench coat, and
the action leans heavily on martial arts. The hosta scene
around an hour and twelve minutes even features a bullet

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dodging moment similar to the Matrix famous bullet time scenes.
All these similarities are coincidental, though, since Blade was released
a year before The Matrix, and The Matrix had been written,
planned and storyboarded long before Blade was released.

Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
John Carpenter's They Live enters the Chat.

Speaker 3 (02:03:55):
Marvel only made twenty five thousand dollars from this film.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
They were not in great shape in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (02:04:01):
No, I mean you can see that in the movie.
The ambulance with the stan Lee Cambio proverbs is working
for Marvel.

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
Right, No, you're right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:04:09):
Wesley Snip's surprising his role as Blade twenty six years later,
and Deadpool and Wolverine would pass Hugh Jackman as Wolverine
for the longest tenured Marvel character in live action film series.

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
Yeah. That makes yeah, man, Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (02:04:20):
The success of the film, especially since it followed the
success of this film, especially since it followed the derided
Batman and Robin nineteen ninety seven, is often considered the
beginning of the rise of the superhero genre to become
dominant in mainstream film.

Speaker 1 (02:04:33):
What are your final thoughts on Blade nineteen ninety eight. Man,
This one's tough because I don't know if it's an
own it. It is for me, that's fine, No, No,
I just don't know if it's an on it because
it's awesome and fun and it's memorable, but a lot
of that's nostalgic, yes, for me personally, So I mean,

(02:04:56):
if you're nostalgic for the nineties action era, if you're
in a for you know, really kind of prototypical superhero
modern superhero movies, then it's definitely an own it. But
I think in general, it's just like you should definitely
see it once. Yeah, and it'd be worth paying to
rent it for sure, because like, I don't know if
I'm gonna run out and get the four K, but
I thought the four K was incredible.

Speaker 3 (02:05:15):
Yeah, I think so it's a buy it for me
simply because it's a very trailblazing vampire film at the time,
for not even just superhero movies, but also just the
vampire genre in general. I think it still holds up immenseally.
It's a lot of fun. Yes, it's got some dumb moments.
I mean a lot of dumb moments, but it's just
dumb fun though, dumb fun exactly, And I think in
all honesty too, it is the perfect time capsule for

(02:05:38):
not just not just the horror genre at that point,
but also like that tail end of the nineties into
the two thousands. This is exactly what we were going into.

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
Yeah. I couldn't agree with that more. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:05:48):
So that is the final thoughts on Blade. We always
like in the show with a couple of recommendations. I
have two this week, starting with nineteen ninety eight, the
same year as Blade, John Carpenter's Vampires currently on Netflix,
Rentable on Prime and Fandango. Recovering from an ambush that
killed his entire team, eventual vampire Slayer must retrieve an
ancient Catholic relic that, should it be acquired by vampires,

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will allow them to walk in the Sunlight.

Speaker 1 (02:06:10):
Yes, freaking fun movie.

Speaker 3 (02:06:12):
I love that movie. The second recommendation I'm gonna go
with is a little more recent. Hanso On and Gretel
witch Hunters from twenty thirteen, currently on Pluto TV, rentable
on Prime Fandango. Brother and sister duo. Hanzo and Gretel
are professional witch hunters who help innocent villagers. One day,
they stumble upon a case that could hold the key
to their past. This is as gory and violent as
you can get. For a more I would say more recent,

(02:06:34):
but it is almost ten years old now at this point.
But I mean this is a hard another hard R
horror superhero in horror film keep saying that term. What's
your recommendation?

Speaker 1 (02:06:46):
Oh? Well, I had to think about this pretty hard
because Dave always steals the better and more obvious recommendations. Sorry,
not always, but often often so I often have to
kind of go off the beaten path and think about
the Yes.

Speaker 3 (02:07:00):
Basically, oh, vibes of Jeff gold looms any, Yeah, that's
might go to always. That's gonna be my joke always
when you say vibes good good.

Speaker 1 (02:07:06):
It will encourage me not to use a zoomer slang.
But I'm gonna go with a movie that attitude wise
and energy wise makes me think of the time of Blade,
and that's nineteen ninety five's Mortal Kombat, fair enough, which
is why it was funny when you pointed out that
I was playing in it. Yeah, because Mortal Kombat. It's

(02:07:27):
it's silly, it's dark, it's action packed, it's very nineties. Yeah,
it's a bit more antiquated than Blade in that way,
but it also has trailblazing soundtrack. I mean, I know
so many people that their first introduction to electronic music
and industrial music, which a lot of people who are

(02:07:48):
younger and be like, what are those Yeah, because now
you know them is something totally different. But back in
the day, there was electronic and industrial music. Now you
have EDM and stuff like that, but that was what
we called it back Oh yeah, you know, with Typo Negative,
with KMFDM and stuff like that. I learned about those
bands first from that soundtrack. Yeah, and became like a
massive KMFDM fan my whole childhood. Thanks, I guess, nope,

(02:08:10):
no such, but no, it's a great soundtrack for those
who somehow might not know what Mortal Kombat is. It's
three martial artists are forced to battle demonic adversaries in
another dimension with the fate of the world hanging in
the balance. And it's on HBO Max right now, and.

Speaker 3 (02:08:22):
I will piggyback off that if you haven't seen the
most recent Wortal Kombat, also a really good time.

Speaker 1 (02:08:26):
I really enjoyed it, and the sequel's finally coming.

Speaker 3 (02:08:28):
Yes it is. So do we have any emails this week?

Speaker 1 (02:08:30):
We might we do, but I want to remind you, guys,
you can send us an email at do you even
movie Pod at gmail dot com. That's do you Even
movie Pod at gmail dot com. We love to hear
from you, guys. We have two EMAILSKA this week. The
first one is from Phil the subject line gross oh Man.
Just heard your talk about together and I was wondering,

(02:08:52):
what's the grossest movies you've ever seen? I just experienced
Human Habachi and well I was grossed out. Also, have
you seen Human Habachi? I thought it was a trip
and a half film.

Speaker 3 (02:09:06):
Human Hibachi I'm not familiar with, so I'm gonna look
that up.

Speaker 1 (02:09:08):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (02:09:10):
One that always comes to my head is the movie
that legitimately once almost made me nauseous. Is Peter Jackson's
Brain Dead aka Dead Alive Really Dead Alive has some
really gross yeah, when they're eating the ear the scene,
I mean the some of those early Jackson like Bad
Taste and Brain Dead aka Dead Alive are pretty heinous
when it comes to like the content that is better

(02:09:31):
in those movies and pretty gruesome with the effects they have.

Speaker 1 (02:09:35):
Yeah, No, I I agree with that. I I'm not
a very squeamish person. I never have been very squeamish.
But what makes me grossed out? I have a serious
thing with cannibalism, Yes you do, And if it's depicted
a certain way, it really bothers me. It really makes

(02:09:56):
me sick. Also, funny enough, blood not blood drinking, blood sucking,
So like when when blades like sucking on her next like,
it literally makes me squirm. The idea of that makes
me want to puke. A guy who you know, watched
cannibal Holocaust while eating a hungry man dinner. I did
with with a girl who also had a hungry man dinner,

(02:10:19):
even though I told her like that's not for you, No,
But so I don't I don't get you know, very
easily gross out it's definitely more context and the way
I feel. But as far as movies that are just gross,
I mean Society very gross Together Together had some gross stuff.

(02:10:43):
I thought it was you know, it was great.

Speaker 3 (02:10:46):
This is this is kind of I mean not this
is kind of a stretch, but like the two that
come to mine are bring her back and talk to me.
Not so much gross, but like the brutality of like
the knife scene in Year.

Speaker 1 (02:10:58):
I think gross versus WinCE a little different, different, but
yet you skip over the substance is fair.

Speaker 3 (02:11:03):
I mean, the substance is very gross, but by the
end of.

Speaker 1 (02:11:05):
The substance you just feel like you understand all bodily fluids. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:11:09):
So, uh, the one that I will mention, I've only
seen it one time. And there's one, Oh God, I
can't I can't think about right now because it's just
makee me knowest. I think it's called the Last House
in the Woods. It was a part of that either
the after dark horror fest films or it's it's around
that same time. It may not be that specific, uh
team or whatnot, but yeah, there's one that's like the

(02:11:29):
Last House in the Woods. There is some really really
gross stuff in that movie.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
Sure. Well, and then there's stuff like Pink Flamingos is
really gross because there's eating eating shacies. Yeah, so yeah,
I mean there's there's a lot of gross out movies,
but yeah, most of them don't get to me. I mean,
Necromantic has some stuff that really and not just the
animal killing. That one is pretty pretty freaking gross.

Speaker 3 (02:11:52):
Yeah, anything anything that involves like bodily fluids is pretty
naw for me. Like the one I always think of
is when they jerk off the dog and Van Wilder.

Speaker 1 (02:12:04):
What about your your love for those cat whatever? Oh
Cat three, Cat.

Speaker 3 (02:12:09):
Three, Cat three, Cat Cat three, They're they're pretty gruesome.

Speaker 1 (02:12:12):
Those who don't know. Cat three is a specific era
of Chinese Ish Hong Kong. Hong Kong Kong.

Speaker 3 (02:12:18):
It's Hong Kong extreme rated movies like violence, sex, Like
the one that always comes to mind is The un
Ould Story, which which is very has a a has
a huge thing with cannibalism, has a entirely uh has
an entire scene of family getting butchered. I mean it's yeah,
those movies are pretty extreme, but like those, those typically
don't bother me too much, except for like the cannibal stuff.

(02:12:39):
Like you mentioned, like especially when he's cooking when the
two movies.

Speaker 1 (02:12:42):
But yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:12:43):
There's there's there's a limit that I have. But like
I don't get grossed out very easily either, but like
there's certain things that will get to me. But yeah,
the first like I remember actually feeling nauseous during the
the first time I watched Brain Dead, Like the climax
made me a little notch.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
It's this is one that grossed me out and shocked me.
I almost forgot to mention this Beyond the Darkness by
Joe Demonto. Yeah, from nineteen seventy nine. That is a
disgusting movie and fantastic movie. It's because of the way
human dismemberment is depicted is depicted. And also I want
to honorable mention those later ful che movies Touch of

(02:13:22):
Death or Touch of Death.

Speaker 3 (02:13:24):
Touch of Death.

Speaker 1 (02:13:25):
Yeah, that one's really disgusting anything they reuse a lot
of that stuff. And Kat and the Brain, so Captain
the Brain has some serious grossouts too. So thanks for
that right before lunch, But thank you so much for
writing in man. Yeah, oh that's awesome, And remember reminder,
do you have a movie pod at gmail dot com.
This next one is from a buddy Patrick and the

(02:13:46):
headline or subject is movie tip. I don't know how
many people know this, but if you have a library card,
you can use apps such as Hoopla or Canopy to
stream movies. That's how I was able to watch Captain
Ron for free. It would like to recommend Monster Island
on shutter.

Speaker 3 (02:14:04):
I've heard I've heard of it. I haven't seen it yet,
but I've heard it's fun.

Speaker 1 (02:14:07):
Yeah, I've heard good things about Monster Island. Thank you Patrick.
And Hoopla. I've not used it, but I've licensed movies
to Hoopla, and they do pay the filmmakers when you
watch a free movie on Hooplay. So if you see
one of my movies on there, it'll cost you nothing.
You should just watch it just for the hell of it.
But no, that's a very good tip. A lot of
people don't realize if you have a library card you

(02:14:28):
can sign up for those and watch tons of free movies.

Speaker 3 (02:14:30):
And you can also get a bunch of audiobooks too.

Speaker 1 (02:14:32):
I actually I have that signed up. I forget the
app for that, but I have that which they let
me use the Digital Library card so I didn't have
to go to the library. I just filled in a thing,
so I was like, well that's just free then. So
but those are our emails again. Do you have a
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(02:14:53):
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Speaker 3 (02:15:01):
Absolutely, so, would you like to know what we are
talking about next week? As August the Dumping Ground month continues.

Speaker 1 (02:15:06):
I you're gonna say it, whether I want you to
or not.

Speaker 3 (02:15:09):
Yeah, Well, after so many jokes of you you know
there's no rules that a dog can't play basketball?

Speaker 1 (02:15:14):
Why that joke all the time you do?

Speaker 3 (02:15:16):
Why why don't we just go ahead and dissect that
movie with nineteen ninety seven's Airbud?

Speaker 1 (02:15:21):
Wow? And how many nineties movies have we done in
a row?

Speaker 3 (02:15:24):
A lot?

Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
I'm getting a little it's getting a little wrisome.

Speaker 3 (02:15:27):
I mean, next the one after Earbud's not so there's that,
so we got that.

Speaker 1 (02:15:31):
I'll believe you this time. But man, I haven't seen
Airbud a long time.

Speaker 3 (02:15:36):
Well, and talk about timing. We just got the announcement
that a meta Airbud sequel is coming out late.

Speaker 1 (02:15:42):
You didn't know about this, I may have heard about it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:45):
Oh about how a kid finds it finds a VHS
of Airbud and then finds a dog that can actually
start like playing basketball is the plot for this movie. Okay, Yeah,
the return of Airbud I think is what it's called
her something like that.

Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
And Airbud's on Disney Plus, Disney.

Speaker 3 (02:15:57):
Plus Fawsome rentable on Private Fandango as well. And I
may or may not be coming to the show having
watched as of what's available right now, the entire Airbud
cinematic universe.

Speaker 1 (02:16:07):
You better have because you promised it to me. I did, yeah,
and now that promise is no. Oh god, dude, you
have no idea.

Speaker 3 (02:16:14):
So all I will go through an entire history of
what happens to Airbud later sequels, including his Children and
the nine air Buddies movies that are available right now too.
I yeah, so look forward to that while I've been
hurting myself the last few weeks watching these movies.

Speaker 1 (02:16:30):
That is must listen podcasting, Peak podcasting. Yeah, they might
just shut down the entire format after we After we
do that, though there's no Caesar Weft, there were no
more there were no more kingdoms to conquer.

Speaker 3 (02:16:44):
And I will say I did mention it when I
was going through is castling. But Chris Christofferson did play
one of the one of the dogs in airbud Snow Buddies.

Speaker 1 (02:16:52):
Of course he did. Yeah that's too good. Yeah, well
that's what you guys have two air quotes. Look forward
to Yeah next week right here? Do you even movie?
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Speaker 3 (02:17:25):
Got some interesting comments recently about the video of my
sister getting her door taken away or getting a room taken.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
On Oh yeah they were Yeah, they were just people
sharing similar experiences. Yeah, yeah, interesting, it's stuff. Definitely a
little weird, a little good, little whatever. So uh, with
that all being said, I guess all that's left to
say is thank you guys so much for joining us.
We hope to see you here and next week. So
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