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May 1, 2025 11 mins
President Trump has said he wants to be the "fertilization president," urging American couples to have more babies as birth rates decline in the U.S. This stance has also been adopted by right-wing activists that call themselves "pronatalists." What is this movement and how is the Trump administration responding?

This episode: political correspondent Sarah McCammon, White House correspondent Asma Khalid, and power and influence reporter Lisa Hagen.

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