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In this 2 Be Better Podcast episode, Chris and Peaches walk you through a full list of cheating apps for 2025, from “news” and calculator clones to secret chat apps, vaults, and full blown spyware designed to hide affairs. They break down how apps like disguised news feeds, private messengers, secret calculators, vault stock, private message boxes, and hidden photo folders actually work, including fake icons, decoy vaults, self destructing chats, and notifications that look like harmless news alerts. They also cover spying tools like Spynger, GPS spoofers, keyloggers, and screen recorders marketed as “catch a cheating spouse” apps, and talk bluntly about how dangerous this tech is when it gets into the hands of controlling or abusive partners.
From there, the conversation shifts to what all of this really means for trust, infidelity, and emotional safety in relationships. You will hear hard truth on online cheating, porn as a form of infidelity, anxiety and BPD spirals, and why if you are tempted to install a spy app on your partner’s phone, the real issue is that the relationship is already broken. Chris and Peaches give you a clear framework for when to leave instead of snooping, how to own your insecurity and start healing, and how to protect your kids from the dark side of smartphones with things like kid safe phones and simple tools like AirTags instead of handing them full internet access. If you are searching for “cheating apps 2025,” “secret messaging apps,” “how to catch a cheater,” “hidden vault apps,” or answers about privacy, trust, and boundaries in marriage and dating, this video will give you clarity, language, and a path forward instead of feeding your paranoia.
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In this 2 Be Better Podcast episode, Chris and Peaches walk you through a full list of cheating apps for 2025, from “news” and calculator clones to secret chat apps, vaults, and full blown spyware designed to hide affairs. They break down how apps like disguised news feeds, private messengers, secret calculators, vault stock, private message boxes, and hidden photo folders actually work, including fake icons, decoy vaults, self destructing chats, and notifications that look like harmless news alerts. They also cover spying tools like Spynger, GPS spoofers, keyloggers, and screen recorders marketed as “catch a cheating spouse” apps, and talk bluntly about how dangerous this tech is when it gets into the hands of controlling or abusive partners.
From there, the conversation shifts to what all of this really means for trust, infidelity, and emotional safety in relationships. You will hear hard truth on online cheating, porn as a form of infidelity, anxiety and BPD spirals, and why if you are tempted to install a spy app on your partner’s phone, the real issue is that the relationship is already broken. Chris and Peaches give you a clear framework for when to leave instead of snooping, how to own your insecurity and start healing, and how to protect your kids from the dark side of smartphones with things like kid safe phones and simple tools like AirTags instead of handing them full internet access. If you are searching for “cheating apps 2025,” “secret messaging apps,” “how to catch a cheater,” “hidden vault apps,” or answers about privacy, trust, and boundaries in marriage and dating, this video will give you clarity, language, and a path forward instead of feeding your paranoia.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/2-be-better--5828421/support.
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We are doing Friday content. This will be the last
Friday of November. Yeah, I believe it's the twenty seventh
when this airs. It could be wrong, but I think
that's what it is, which means this will be after Thanksgiving.
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Speaker 3 (00:36):
Sixth, twenty sixth. You were close. You were close ninety
five people in here watching, which means there's a whole
lot of people from Patreon joining us today.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Doing a thing on a Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Almost one hundred people's crazy. Got a little anxious. My goodness.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Hi, guys.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Hello, we are we're changing our recording schedules. Guys.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, so Monday will be the premiere. I want to
be involved in the premiere on Mondays, So Monday we
will always premiere and then possibly go live after Tuesday
will be a definitive record day. Wednesday's a live day,
and then the rest of the week we'll get it
in when we can.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
We are also doing watch parties and discord. We are
a couple of things from like mom life. Yesterday, I
love to encourage our children to sing, and our children
get it. They were like change in vibratos and hitting
different notes and having fun with it.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And yesterday we got home and I can't remember.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
What I was singing, but I was like semi being
serious while singing, and our daughter from the kitchen, I
heard her go.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, get it, mommy. I was like, oh gosh, yes,
feels my heart. Thank you so much, and you could
hear my voice like I got a little bit emotional
when she was like, what you say it to us?
And I was like, no, it's just really nice to
hear thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
And then this morning we started a new thing. For
those of you who've been here for a while, I
have had conversations about morning affirmations with the children and
we have a back and forth. This morning, yesterday morning,
last few weeks can't remember, we started adding what kind
of day are we going to have? They say a
(02:15):
good day, and I've asked them why are we going
to have a good day? And their responses and this
is a I trained them because we get to choose
the kind of day we have, and that has now
been implemented into our daily or our morning feel good
before we get out of the car.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I like that, Fawn Manning said, Chris, I hope you
don't mind me asking this. I am trying to understand
better how to show up for my boyfriend. Do you
feel that you handle your mental health declines alone, handle
your mental health declines alone or when peaches hold space.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I think it's a bit of both.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
There.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
There's definitely a bit of both, because there are days
like yesterday where I just needed to be alone and
process what I was going through. And then there's days
like today where she's touched me a couple of times
and it's quieted my head.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
There is and I can tell by his energy.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, there's a there's a power in knowing that somebody's
got you. But it's also nice if you need that
alone time to just back the fuck up and like
have that alone time. So I would ask him what
it is that he needs, and you should do it
while touching him, right, like put your put his hands
in your you know, do that, look him in his
eyes and be like, I can tell you're not having
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a great time today. I love you and I'm here
for you if you need me. But if you need
me to leave you alone. I can do that as
well and see what they say the worst is gonna happen.
It is like, let me alone for a little while,
and it's not a personal thing. They're just telling you
what you need because you asked. So I found a
list of cheating apps, okay, and I want to talk
about him, and I pulled up I actually pulled up
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the first one the app page so that we can
read what it is.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
And we can do that with all of them if
we want to.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
But this is everybody knows that Snapchat is a cheating app,
right because us to just disappear. There are people who
use Telegram and Signal the same way because you can
make that shit disappear. But it's not a photo sharing thing.
Those are, you know, that's more of a The reason
that that Signal and Telegram are are the way they
are is because those apps are used for.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
And to and peer secure.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's a lot harder to get a warrant like that's
a very different situation than what's app or Snapchat because
of the security of it. So the list of cheating
apps for twenty twenty five, the very first one is
called news Talk. And when I looked it up. I
found Daily news Talk, but it says news Talk is
one of the best secret chat or cheating apps. This
app is designed to look like a regular news app,
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so it's incredibly discreet. Your chats are hidden behind what
seems like a news feed, and notifications come through as
breaking news.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
You access your.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Chats by long pressing a refresh button, entering a password,
and while you're in This app supports messaging, voice calls,
and videos. It also allows you to clear all of
your chats from both sender and receiver's device, which adds
another layer of security. So not only can you delete
your phone's chats whoever you're messaging, you can delete their
(05:08):
shit too from your own phone, so when you delete it,
it just removes the chat completely. Yeah, this is the
news secret chat. Daily news Talk is what I found
on the I Store and it says on here secret
chat for couples hidden behind news app, looking for the
best secret chat app for lovers, not couples lovers, Daily
(05:30):
news Talk is a discrete, private messaging app disguised as
a news app, perfect for secret relationships, affairs, or confidential
business chats or hidden chap. I'm sorry our hidden chat
app insores, no traces, no logs, and complete privacy.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
You have to make this bigger. I can't see it.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Here we go, Oh they mean sex work right, confidential
business chats right?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Okay? I was like, what do you mean? Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
So why choose the number one? Private chat app?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Hidden messages, get breaking news alerts for chats, enter a
pin to unlock, no phone number needed, Secure texting with
user names, no personal data, so you can literally make
up any name you want, and so could they. High
definition video and voice calls. Encrypted calls never appear in
call logs, self destructing chats, delete messages at any time,
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Military grade encryption and to end encrypted for secure messaging.
Media stays, hidden photos, videos never save to a gallery.
Perfect for couples in secret relationships. Best hidden chat app
for affairs.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's on there, just putting it out there. Yoh yep.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Private business communication anyone needing discreet text texting without phone numbers.
Key features. This secret Messenger private chat app sends text, photos,
video securely. It goes into everything we already listed. So
the reason that we're doing this, guys, is because we
want you to know the kind of bullshit that could
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be on your person's phone, because there's a whole lot
of things like the calculator one. A lot of people
knows about that. Yeah, but I would have never known that.
And this all came up because I was looking at
YouTube videos today.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
It was like.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Apps that could be on your woman's phone, damn right.
And when the video started, the very first line was
I guarantee you that at least one of these is
already on there.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
So and that was an AI video.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So I closed the video and actually went to Google
and like searched to find a list of the cheating apps.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Okay, so we're laying.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
These out so that you guys can do with this
information with you will. Is there any any questions or
anything you want to add on to that.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Nope. I think this is disgusting.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I do too. I do too.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
This is actually not a cheating app. This is to
catch somebody cheating.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Okay, can you catch a cheater with an app? Found
the best one? Oh, I found the best one. When
I was scrolling through our slash infidelity that read it.
The realization suddenly hit me. Cheaters will go to extreme
lengths to keep their affairs hidden. That's why it's hard
to catch a cheater. Ever heard of secret messaging apps
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or GPF spoofers?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Is that like a scrambler?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think it's a big GPS thing. Okay, it could
be one of those things that gives you a fake location,
like a scrambler would your Probably that's probably what it is.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I've never never looked in any of this shit, right,
but I've also never shared my location with anyone ever
in my life until we got together.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's not a thing for me. It's not something I
ever thought about.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, Continuing people on Reddit casually share these cheating tools
and tricks as if there's nothing shameful about it.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That's because there's a lot of people out there who
cheat without shame. They don't care.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, this whole situation got me thinking, is there a
way for betrayed partners to uncover the truth? That question
sent me to Google, and after hours of search and
searching and testing, I found a one word answer, spyinger.
Here's my honest review of this tiny but powerful app.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Before we get into this, if you need to put
this on your partner's phone, leave your relationship, yes, right,
Like I don't, I don't support this just as much
as I don't support cheating. I think that this is
a major breach of privacy. And what if, like one
of your best friends is on the verge of eliminating
themselves and they're trying to keep all that shit hush hush,
and your partner is a fucking busy body and they
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download the shit on your phone and read it and
go tell o their girlfriends, Like I just yeah, there's
a whole lot of don't do this in this episode, guys.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Uh so what a spy enger?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Spynger says openly that it's a cheating spouse tracker app
No secrets here. The key info is location tracking, call
and text monitoring, social media monitoring, internet activity monitoring, screen recorder, keylogger,
and it is compatible with both Android and iOS doing
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because I'm I couldn't write?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Are you glitching? Is my AI broken?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
You know, I have been feeling some weird thing back
here in my skull.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, meaning to start taking some nootropics.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, that's what that is.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I don't know. Oh, I've been taking them. It's been
helping with my memory.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Word, Okay, I should do that.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I couldn't right now me where I am in my
in my life, in my journey, I couldn't imagine downloading
this app to your phone because I didn't trust you
me ten years ago, my first marriage, even I would
have jumped all over downloading this on his phone. It's insane, right,
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there was a desperation, there was anxiety.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
There was.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
My abandonment, the I need the proof to show him
that I'm right, like, I'm gonna catch you, motherfucker.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
What would have done?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And nothing? It was right because I still would have
decided to.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Leave, right and he still would have cheated right, right.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And like all that process does is just fire me
up more and make me feel more worseless or inadequate,
whatever the case may be. It's I couldn't. I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I could have skipped all of that and just been
I feel like you're cheating on me. And we've had
this conversation multiple times. We can't come to a resolution
over this whatever whatever, whatever I don't have. I don't
trust you, that's it. And if I can't trust you,
we can't have a relationship. Spynger Catch a Cheating Spouse
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app copies and transfers data from your partner's device to
your secure cloud account, and because this happens super fast,
you can see what they're up to in real time. Jeez, okay, yeah,
you know what. I'm glad she like this didn't exist
ten years ago. I would have drone myself absolutely insane.
Like I was already driving myself crazy thinking about when
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he gets from from work, I need to check his Instagram,
when he falls asleep, I need to check Facebook. Like
I would have been absolutely driven mad. My borderline was
peakaotic in my first marriage. I would have drowned in that.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Do you think that this is going to add psychosis
to people's relationships?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I do make spiraling worse.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yeah, child neglect I think may increase, not like not
across the board, but like if child neglect is already
happening because there's turmoil in the marriage going on, things
like this is yeah, going.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
To add to it continuing.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
On top of that, they won't know about spynger running
on their device.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It works in full stealth mode.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
So if you deleted the.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Icon off of their main screen unless they look for it,
they'll never know what's on there, right, crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So what can spynger? What can you do with spyenger?
A whole lot.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
For my Spynger review, I tested over thirty features. I
can give full access to anyone's device, but since you're
here for the tea or receipts, I'll focus on the
top ones that I'll help you catch a cheater right handed.
Communication monitoring a single call or text could be a
dead giveaway of cheating, and Spyinger gives you all the
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juicy details. I hate this to I hate this. What
is this in early two thys teen magazine?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Do you want to just move on to the next thing.
I mean, we can just hit the bullet points. It
monitors communication, internet tracking, GPS, location tracking.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
No, we should read through all of it because.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
So once it's INSTALLAGEDE, you'll be able to monitor their
calls and texts across all apps on their device, even
once they've deleted them. Spyinger has rolled out the call
recorder feature for Android devices so you can hear what was.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Said to.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Internet activity tracking. There are tons of posts saying that
online cheating is a new form of infidelity. Cheating is cheating, period.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, this isn't new, This isn't We aren't just figuring
out that online cheating is a new form of infidelity.
It's it's cheating.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Even without that information, it's clear that cheaters leave digital tracers.
Spyinger finds where they lead your It's the answer to
your question, how do you find out if your partner
is cheating online? With Spyinger, you can monitor your partner's emails,
social media apps, dating apps, and browsing history, all from
your online dashboard.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
This would also work to catch a partner who's been
using porn.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yes, yes it would, so.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Maybe this okay, So in this situation, maybe this could
be one of those things that could be used if
your partner has a porn addiction. Like the duality in
it right, there could be a I don't know, I
still don't like the idea of putting it on there,
and the you know, you would not even be able
to have a private conversation with your mom or your
kids right with this on there, like it makes every
conversation a public conversation.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yes it does.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Continuing it doesn't just display text. Multimedia files are also accessible.
Spyinger even lets you download these files just in case
you need to cop of the evidence. The next one
is GPS location tracking. Lies about whereabouts and sudden routine
changes are classic signs your partners cheating. You know, it
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doesn't lie their phone. That's because all phones these day
comes with GPS chips. And who uses data from this chip?
Phone operators, advertisers, and spynger. It tracks your partner's real
time location on a map. But that's not all. It
also shows their past routes with exact coordinates, addresses, and timestamps.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
See that that is very, very dangerous. It takes one
woman to find out her man has cheated one too
many times and show up at the woman's house.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And then the cops are called.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, or to have a crazy, possessive, controlling man. Yes,
oh my gosh, like this is one of the this
is dangerous. Like, the more you read this, this is
like legitimately dangerous. This could get someone killed.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, yes, yes it can.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Before you get move on though. It's one thing to
willingly share your location on your phone, right, It's another
to have somebody download the shit, delete it off the
homescreen so the app can't be seen, and monitor everything
you do. Yeah, yeah, this could get somebody killed. This
is dangerous.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, I can also see abusive partners using this.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
That's what I'm getting at oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
The next one is screen recorder and key lagger. These
two features make Spyinger the best app to catch a cheater.
The screen recorder automatically snaps screenshots of whatever your partner
is doing on their phone, like opening apps, typing messages,
or browsing websites geez. The key lagger meanwhile, tracks every keystroke.
It gives you copies of deleted messages, search quiies, passwords,
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pin codes, you name it. The key tracking lets you
set up notifications. All you need to do is add
specific words or phrases to a list and spy in.
You will instantly alert you whenever your partner types those
words on their phone.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
That was pretty much it on that.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, I can see this being very dangerous and doing
a whole lot of harm.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Mspy is another monitoring tool. We can skip that calculator
pro plus this app. At at first glance, this app
looks like a basic calculator, but once you enter a
secret code, it opens a hidden message area. You can
send messages, store media, and keep private conversations well hidden.
The best part is no one will suspect the thing.
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This person said. I found it easy and very very
easy to use and cleverly disguised. I want to see
real quick. I'm going to bonus at the end of this. Okay,
I have a bonus one.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Okay, this one is vaulty Stocks.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
This app appears to be a stock market tracker, but
it's really a secret vault for photos, videos, and messages.
Vaulty Stock offers password protection and doesn't draw attention. Is
perfect for keeping personal files hidden.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So this would be one of those things that would
look like a crypto trading app or like an actual
like e trade or something. Yeah, that's fucking crazy, that is.
And you know, even so, even though we're giving you,
guys all these apps that are used for cheating, unless
you know the pins or passwords to get in there,
you're not going to be able to know what they are.
So in order to find these apps, you're going to
have to actually go and search for the apps and
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like the app thing to see if it's downloaded on
their phone. Private message Box This is another app that
looks like a regular app but secretly hide your messages.
It creates a private contact list and stores all of
your conversations with those contacts in a hidden space. He wrote, or,
they wrote. From my testing, it works smoothly and privacy
aspect is solid.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Any thoughts continuing. Next is Hid Hid Hide Hide my Text.
This app does exactly what it says. It hides your
text messages. The app disguises itself as a random app,
like a game or utility, and once you access the
hidden feature, you can read your private conversations. I found
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the interface a bit basic, but it does the job
of keeping chats hidden.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Next one is cover Me.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
This one says it offers a lot of privacy features,
including private messaging and a vault to store your files.
That app allows you to hide contacts and even provide
second phone number to use for secret conversations. They said,
I tested this app extensively and it's perfect for keeping
everything you want in private in one place.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
So knowing that you can store files there, it.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Means that you can any dirty videos or photos that
send to your phone, you can save them.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
That's a whole last thing too.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Next one yep ky ms keep your Media Safe. It
is disguised as a calculator app, but functions as a
vault for your media files and secret messages. You enter
your pastcode and the app transforms into a private space.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Next one is Vault. This is a This says it's
a complete privacy solution. It hides photos, videos, apps, even
your car call logs. You can also create a fake
vault to show others if needed. I found Vault very
effective for those who want to keep more than.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Just messages private.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You can make a decoy vault.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
That's fed up.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's insane.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
It's crazy the links that people will go to to
hide what they're doing, but still do it right.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Instead of just changing your life in the moment, leave
the person you're not happy with.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah. A lot of people won't leave because of fear
of losing shit.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, And people will say kids, we have kids, right,
our finances aren't mesh best secret folder, as a name suggests,
this app is all about hiding files.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
It allows you to lock away photos, videos, and messages.
The app itself looks like a regular folder or utility app,
but it secretly holds all your private information.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
This is also one of those things that if you've
got a person that is using porn or god knows
what else, right, saving that shit to their phone, these
are things that you should be looking or I'm gonna
say that I say this again, though we've said it
several times on this episode, and we've said it throughout
the years. The bigger issue here is that you don't
trust your person. Yes, and if you have to go
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on their phone and start looking for this shit because
you think there might be something going on, you don't
trust them. That's the bigger problem to leave. The last
one on here is called Sneakycam. It's a clever app
that allows you to take photos and videos without showing
them in your phone's regular gallery. The media is stored
in a hidden area within the app. It's a bit
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more niche, but works great for keeping certain media private,
especially when combined with other apps. The bonus one on
this is did you know that you can cheat on
or you can use Spotify to cheat? I didn't look
into it, but that video that I was watching earlier,
one of the things on there was that you can
message people and have like shared music lists, and you
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can send messages in the shared music list.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
That's insane.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, yeah, so people are using Spotify as well.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
It's crazy, It.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Is crazy, absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
So that was our list. Guys.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I know this wasn't This was not meant to be
a really long episode. We can interact with the chat
now for a little while, but we are at a
point now that where we're forty minutes in minus cuts
will be way less than that because I had to
get up and all of that shit. Anything that you
want to add to the conversation before we start interacting with.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
The chat, just final thoughts on that, as if you
need to go to the length of hiding things that
you're downloading apps and disguising and creating decoys and all
of that. Just life will be harder if you're not
with somebody else, right, That's always the case. The varying
(22:46):
degree of how hard it will be will depend on
the situation that you're in. There are the exceptions to this,
right overall, just oh god, I my first marriage impacked
all my shit, I owned into a beat up super
and moved into a family member's house, put all my
shit in storage and did it as a single mom.
(23:10):
And I would do it all over again instead of
staying in that situation. If you are someone who feels
the need to download spywear onto your person's phone, leave them.
The trust is not there, right, whether that be they're
not a trustworthy person, Okay, if they are not a
(23:32):
trustworthy person. They've cheated multiple times and this is the
thirtieth time, and they're not gonna pull the boll.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Over your eyes. That's not the relationship for you.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
If you are somebody who is just constantly anxious and
low self esteem and low self worth and panicky and anxious,
attached and dysfunctional and all those kinds of things you
need to heal, ye, do not invade somebody else's privacy
to satiate the demons within you to make you feel better.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Somebody said that you can use the note app on
your phone today as well, and I never thought about that,
because you could absolutely share notes to work, like in
a document, and that could absolutely use it be a
thing used to cheat. Desiree said it takes more effort
to cheat than just leave, right, I don't think it does.
I think that when it comes down to it, it's
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a lot easier for people to stay and just do
fucked up shit because the idea of leaving could be alimony,
child support, breaking up a family, it could be breaking
up businesses. There could be a whole lot of reasons
that people use to justify what they're doing to themselves.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Because it's what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Especially if you have to go to the links to
do this shit, and there's I'm willing to bet that
for most people, and speaking for my personal life back
in the day previous life, I should say there is
a I'm so disconnected. I don't care about any of this,
but I don't want to lose my shit, So I'm
going to do all the things to make me happy
because I'm I'm devoid of that, and I mean, I
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get it, it's not right right, but that is the
ex nation that a lot of people have. So I
always try sharing apps with my partner, like bills and stuff,
and the app just tells me, no, I didn't know that.
I feel like we should do an email or something
because we got done so quick.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah, I don't know. We can sit here in bullshit,
we can ask answer questions. We have one hundred and
fifty people here. I'm sure a little Q.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And A can happen.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, a lotater tot said yes, email do I thank
you emails to ease the tention. Would you say that
if they put their assets above their emotional well being,
I would say that they absolutely put their yes a phenom.
I would absolutely say that they're putting their assets above
their emotional wellbeing.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
People don't.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Starting over is really fucking hard, and a lot of
people don't have the wherewithal to get back to where
they are at because they had to fight tooth and
nail to get where they are, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
And like the they don't realize that if you've done
it once, doing it again make it's a whole lot easier.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Sure, you may have some debt that you have to
pay alimonies, a motherfucker child sports, some motherfucker but like
you are happy, will far outwiyh that debt? Poco said, Peach,
when's your book dropping?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Yeah? Peach? When is your book dropping?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
December first?
Speaker 4 (26:08):
How far are you into your book? Peach? How much
have you written to this day? Peach? Tell me?
Speaker 5 (26:17):
So?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I have I have pages written?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah? I pag three. Are we in double digit?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Chip?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Okay, I don't see you right.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
So it's just well, a lot of it's on my phone,
like when I'm sitting in the car to pick up
the kids, or I'm smoking on the back porch typing
away on my phone. It's very discombobulated and I feel
like it doesn't flow, and I'm trying really really hard
not to delete shit.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
So I'm just at a stage where I'm just typing
my thoughts out and then the reorganization of them will come.
Writing's hard for me. I've figured out writing is very
difficult for me.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's very I don't want to say soul exposing, but
it does put a whole lot of vulnerabilities out there.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Somebody said that they feel like that first app would
be really good for a kid's phone. If you guys
are buying phones for your kids, buy Bark phones.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
It does everything that you can do parental control wise, like,
it does all of that, but that's what the phone
is for. So we listen and we don't judge. Chris,
that's funny. Have you thought about translating your book into Spanish?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I have not.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Belle said, stop deleting woman.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Oh gosh, it's so difficult.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Will you sell signed copies on the website of Peach's book, Yeah,
we will, Yes, I do want to. I do want
to read my book. I don't think that I'm going
to do an audio book.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You're going to do the episode.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I think I'm just going to sit down and read
a chapter and release it as content. I would rather
give my book away and have people actually have the
information then make money on it. And at least if
I sit down and I read it, I can interact
with a chat while I'm doing. It'll be fun for me.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I think that's a good idea.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
I think so too. I think so too.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
For maybe I can do like a chapter, a voice
of the broken episodes or something. What age would you
recommend the bark phone? My son is five in October,
but start school and riding the school bus. It makes
me so nervous. I would not buy a five year
old phone. I'm not trying to. I honestly don't want
our kids to have a cell phone until they can
buy their own. I understand the need to like reach
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out and like talk to your kids and shit, if
they're like free range children, you can get a flip
phone and give it to them when they go out
to do shit, Like if you're dropping off the Boys
and Girls Club for a nightly dance, you can give
them a phone for that, or a.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Landline emergency phone or something. Right, My first phone was
the Nokia Beat beep walkie talkie thing, and we could
only use it getting on the bus.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Her letting our mom know that, like, hey, we're on
the bus. We're heading home, yeah, or we're heading to
the boys and Girls club where we were going to.
Didn't get my first phone until I was about fourteen,
and it was that the good old flip phone.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I got lucky in that we didn't have that shit
growing up. We had a pager.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The cell phones weren't a thing, readily is set, readily
available thing for normal working class people until I was
fucking twenty.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Yeah, so I wish I grew up without a phone
and access to the internet the way that I had it.
I think it was a like like we just had
a conversation about how you asked me do I think
it'll worsen psychosis for people. I think the Internet as
a whole has been a massive detriment to society, to society,
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how we develop, how we process things.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, somebody suggested air tag for your kids. I'd throw
an air tag in their shoes, lift that foam up,
stick it right unerneth of their shoe.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
We should do that.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
By the time your kid needs new shoes, that air
tag will be ready to die. Yeah, because you're buying
new shoes every every eight to twelve months for your kids.
They're growing so damn quick, Yes they are.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I couldn't pick up our son the other day. I
almost had a mental breakdown, not even in publics, like
and the cart return section of publics.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
That's because he's too big to be in a cart.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Oh well it was the race car cart.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah, he's too big for.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
That, I know.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
But they were like, let's get in the cart. And
I was like, okay, come here, bubby.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
And I went to go pick him up, and like,
I lifted him a few feet off the ground and
my back went, bitch, what are you doing? And I
put them back down and I was like, oh, this
is to day. I'll never fucking forget it.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Like, if you look panicked right now, I do you
totally had a panic.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I was, yes, what do you mean? I can't pick
up my baby anymore?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
It's funny you pretty soon he'll be able to pick
you up.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Stop.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yeah, think about it.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Oh my gosh, I'm raising a man. Ah, it's funny.
Why did you do this to me? Cry? This is
the abuse, everybody. This is what my husband does to
make me cry.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I definitely would like to read my shit for free.
I think even the new one. I gotta be honest.
The money is nice to make from selling books, but
knowing that we're helping people does more for me. I
don't think it really matters to me.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
It's doing dancing over food.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Very excited.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Huh yep, our lunch will be ready at twelve oh nine.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Would you like to go with me to pick it up?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I would not. I don't want a public It's.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You and me. Ivy girl. I may oh my gosh,
oh sorry.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I may sit down and do the first chapter of
my book while you're gone. Somebody suggested that I do
it at the women's retreat. I'm not bringing all of
this shit to the women's retreat.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
We the last couple's retreat. We didn't bring in check
with us other than our phones and our blogging camera.
I'm I'm, I mean, I could do it with a
blogging camera, hook my little micup and do my thing.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
But you're gonna be able to go live like that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I'd rather do it live. Yeah, yeah, I know that
I can go live from my phone. I can do
YouTube lives from my phone. I could probably make that work,
but I don't think I want to. Yeah, what were you?
Oh my god? Because the Ivy thing.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Oh, yesterday morning. So I have a hard time getting
up super early.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Guys. So my first alarm's at five am.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Oh you're one of those people. I'm so glad I'll
hear your alarm.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
So my first alarm goes off at five am. I
have another alarm set for six, So I like, I
lay in bed and I just kind of like lay
there and I wake up a little bit, and then
my second alarm goes off at six and that's my
get out of bed alarm, and that's when I get up.
I take Ivy out, I use the bathroom, and then
I sit on the couch and like I do some stretching,
I do some breathing, and then Ivy, weill, why are
(32:58):
you keep going out?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I can go keep going off topic, okay.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
But I sometimes I'll just lay on the couch for
like ten minutes, preparing to have to deal with grumpy children.
And yesterday morning, Ivy came over and she like flopped
on top of me, and her head was right here
next to my head, but her whole tummy was exposed
and she was like she was laying on me like
a bed, and it was it was a really sweet,
loving ivy moment.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I did I give her all the tummy scratches we have.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
We have a bathroom on our back porch. Do full bathroom?
Yeah right, there's a showering and everything. There was also
a massage room attached to it, but we don't use
it for that. It's just storage space. Yeah. You use
that bathroom out there when you let dog out in
the morning, don't you sometimes? Okay, because I can hear
the toilet flush in there. Yeah, no, or coughing. We're
crying when you go in there to cry. You think
that you're being discreet. Back at the bedroom bathroom.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Hang on back, It's been like a year since I've
cried in that bathroom.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Hasn't been that long, It hasn't been. Is that the truth?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Okay, I don't think it is.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
But okay, Oh my gosh, that's funny. I don't know
how you guys do that alarm thing when if you
if you have your alarm go off and you get
out of bed right away, It's gonna be a little
hard at first, but you actually are going to be
more energetic throughout the day, because when you do the
micro sleeping, you're not going into full ram sleep and
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your body's not able to reset, and it actually does
a whole lot of like negative shit to your body.
Forty five minutes to one hour is an actual sleep
cycle necessary to get into our trim sleep. So if
your alarm goes off and you're hitting your alarm every
fifteen minutes, you're allowing your body to start to fall
asleep and you're jerking it out. It's better to just
(34:39):
get out of bed than to allow that to happen.
How do you feel about interviewing people? Like, without me,
that's something you'd be interested in doing. Should I be
looking for people women for you to interview?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Put a peg in it, come back to it another time.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I had that The plant medicine video that we recorded
with Michael Lang, or that I recorded with Michael Lang
aired this morning and dropped on Spotify, and I watched
the entire thing. I feel like I'm pretty good at
interviewing people. Maybe that's my ego, maybe not. I don't know,
but I enjoyed it and I enjoyed watching it, so
I want to do more of that. I just have
to find people that are interesting to talk to or
(35:21):
have some kind of crazy story that i'd want to
get into. Yeah, so I think I'm going to start
looking into to trying to find other people for me
to sit down and interview. Haley Joyce that I've been
waking up two minutes before my alarm recently for the
past couple months. That's fucking awesome because you're not being
jolted awake by or whatever the sound is. She didn't
even like that.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah, you know, I have gentle bird songs to wake
me up in the morning.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I don't hear your alarm. I hear you get out
of bed, but I never hear your alarm go off.
It means you're a lighter sleeper than I am.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I'm a very light sleeper. Yeah. I can hear the
children call my name from across the house.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah, I hear it when they get to the door,
and I want to throw shit at them.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
It's three am. Go back to sleep.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, Yeah, I would never do that, but I think
about it every time they yell from our bedroom door.
I wonder if I could hit them with my pillow,
And then I realized that like that pillows heavy.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
As fuck and it would totally knock them over.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
And then I realized what's really stopping me, though, is
knowing that I would not have my pillow without getting
out of.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Bed, right, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I would never actually throw one of those pillows. We
have a purple pillow, so it's got like the sponging
whatever that is that pillows heavy as shit, it is.
That's so funny, Belle said, alarm sounds give me too
much anxiety. I'm not starting my day that way.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I remember when the only alarm sounds you had on
the phone were the pre downloaded ones. You couldn't use
anything but those, and they were all jarring like alarm,
car alarm fucking yep.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Definitely woke up with palpitations.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Tatter Todt said, yes, courage and curve interviews. Why why
is it got to be that? Why can't we do
it for to be better? Why can't we do it
for both? But specifically, why did you pull it to that.
I wanted you to interview people for to be Better
so that we have extra content that we can post.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Yes, I'm down to interview people, but I want to
be things I'm interested in.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Right, I feel the same way. I'm not going to
talk about things that I don't want to talk about.
That's why we don't do interviews. You know, you know
we get and Jenny can verify this. The amount of
interviews that requests that we get from publishers that people
want to be on our podcasts that I know don't
listen to our podcast is just publishers mass emailing podcasts
to get their people on there. I don't want to
do that. I've actually asked Zach and Jenny when they
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get those emails to email back and be like, have
you actually listened to our podcast?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Do you know what we do?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Because I don't want to talk about your whatever the
fuck it is if it's not relevant to our platform.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Gothic momos that I like the Guard interviews. They are
very informative.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
I nixed the Garden interviews. I appreciate that I nixed
them because I didn't like the quality of people that
were coming in. And I say that because the Garden
interviews happened what over a year ago, it's.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Been it's been over a year, right, it's been closer
to that was that was the beginning of year two.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yeah, so we were still finding our footing and there
were a lot of mishaps happening, and someone got really
pissy about it. Someone got really shitty and talked a
lot of shit on TikTok about me.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
That went a whole lot further than just TikTok. That
person tried to create a create a podcast just to
go against what you were doing.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
And that was.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
That wasn't even like a that was that was a
whole ass ship show. Yeah, And I'm not going to
get too far into it, but we had an audio video.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
It was an audio issue.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
The audio was was not right, and instead of trying
to release the content with just the camera audio, which
was fucking garbage because the mixer wasn't right, we just mixed.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It and I forgot to email her, right.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
And instead of them reaching out and being like, hey,
when's our episode going to release so that we could
have had a conversation about it, they fucking took to
the internet and bashed this right, And I gotta be honest,
I listened to that because I was sitting there. The
interview wasn't good anyways, Like the conversation wasn't good. We
have a platform. When it comes down to it, we
have the discretion to not use content. So even if
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we didn't want to use it and everything worked, it's
our platform. You weren't getting paid for being there. You
were trying to promote your own shit that you were
trying to create. The fact that we were even willing
to have you on should have been a blessing at
that point. Like get Wrecked, Fawn said, I love the
Gypsy Rose one so good. Jenny said that she really
enjoys the she told me earlier in the interview when
(39:53):
that she enjoys interviews and she enjoys your book breakdowns
a lot. So if you don't want to interview people,
we could go back to book breakdowns and do extra
content as book breakdowns. We're ahead, Like we're so far
ahead that we don't have to record content for a while.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I enjoy doing book breakdowns.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yeah, what would you do? Would you do some like
thriller shit or would you do something other than relationship stuff?
I mean, it's kind of our stick.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
But you want to do nineteen eighty four?
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Oh god, do you really want to get into that?
I don't know if I can do that. I honestly
like real shit. That brings out the paranoia in me,
like you wouldn't fucking believe, and that could go very
bad for it.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I also have the Animal Farm.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
I think I could probably get away with that one.
Nineteen eighty four is going to make me crazy?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Okay? Or Radium Girls, Oh, that's a good one. We
could do that.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
You didn't you start that?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I almost finished it?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
No, I meant didn't you start doing the book breakdowns
for that?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I don't think I did?
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Are you sure or where? We just talked about it
a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I think we talked about I'm a most.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Positive you started that. Maybe we didn't use it.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I'm almost positive you started doing that. Can you do
book breakdowns of the books on the band book list?
That would be kind of nice.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I almost sent.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Jen Ay and buff bella video of me playing my
handpan this morning, and I got self conscious about it
and didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Because my nails are an issue while I play, And
even though like what I'm playing sounds good, you can
hear the tapping of my nails in it, and it
made me self conscious.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
I think that would do really good for your accountability.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
What do you mean.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I think that you doing that and sending it to people.
I think that it would booster your self confidence, your
self esteem because they would hype you up, regardless of
how it sounded.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
I believe that.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
I believe that they would encourage you to keep going right,
that's encouragement. They would ask you when the next one's coming,
because they support what you're doing, and it would it
would make you play and not to your best ability,
but it would make you think about what you're doing
and try to put out the best product possible.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Not a bad idea, babe. Oh God saying you got
to do it?
Speaker 5 (42:11):
I'm just you know, no, I know I had mallets
that came with it, but I can't find the mallets.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
You have to get our.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Food, okay.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Somebody Maddie g asked what advice we would have for
somebody wanting it to get into plant medicine. That would
depend on what kind of plant medicine that you're wanting
to get into. But I would I would do a
whole lot of research, not only like on the internet,
but like books of what you're trying to get into
from people who are respected. I actually want to have
a an honest Q and a about plant medicine and
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the discords like in the discord, not on YouTube, but
like an actual discord thing. And that's something that I
would like to do in the next couple of weeks.
I have a whole lot of things I wanted to
talk to you about after this, but.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
We can do it over lunch. Yeah, it's not gonna
take me long to pick it up.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Well, you got to leave in three minutes to get lunch.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Right, and then I'll be back before twelve thirty.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Okay, and we hit almost an hour. I think we're
at an hour, so this will be a little bit
under an hour, but.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
With that being said, guys, thanks for tuning in. We
hope that the cheating apps brought you some sort of
information and hopefully they're not on your partner's phone and
hopefully you're not using them because you know you're listening
to this podcast.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
You should do better.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Shame shame D shame Dyes.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
With that being said, guys, remember you were the author
of your own life. Grab a pen and we will
see you on the next one.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Bye, guys,
Look up.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
We con all the things the bottom all o, wow
is you You're my favorite view but that's not.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
You and we are back.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome back, bumble bitches.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
We are doing Friday content. This will be the last
Friday of November. Yeah, I believe it's the twenty seventh
when this airs. It could be wrong, but I think
that's what it is, which means this will be after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And today is August twenty seventh.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Sixth, twenty sixth. You were close. You were close ninety
five people in here watching, which means there's a whole
lot of people from Patreon joining us today.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Doing a thing on a Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Almost one hundred people's crazy. Got a little anxious. My goodness.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Hi, guys.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Hello, we are we're changing our recording schedules. Guys.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, so Monday will be the premiere. I want to
be involved in the premiere on Mondays, So Monday we
will always premiere and then possibly go live after Tuesday
will be a definitive record day. Wednesday's a live day,
and then the rest of the week we'll get it
in when we can.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
We are also doing watch parties and discord. We are
a couple of things from like mom life. Yesterday, I
love to encourage our children to sing, and our children
get it. They were like change in vibratos and hitting
different notes and having fun with it.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And yesterday we got home and I can't remember.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
What I was singing, but I was like semi being
serious while singing, and our daughter from the kitchen, I
heard her go.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, get it, mommy. I was like, oh gosh, yes,
feels my heart. Thank you so much, and you could
hear my voice like I got a little bit emotional
when she was like, what you say it to us?
And I was like, no, it's just really nice to
hear thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
And then this morning we started a new thing. For
those of you who've been here for a while, I
have had conversations about morning affirmations with the children and
we have a back and forth. This morning, yesterday morning,
last few weeks can't remember, we started adding what kind
of day are we going to have? They say a
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good day, and I've asked them why are we going
to have a good day? And their responses and this
is a I trained them because we get to choose
the kind of day we have, and that has now
been implemented into our daily or our morning feel good
before we get out of the car.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I like that, Fawn Manning said, Chris, I hope you
don't mind me asking this. I am trying to understand
better how to show up for my boyfriend. Do you
feel that you handle your mental health declines alone, handle
your mental health declines alone or when peaches hold space.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I think it's a bit of both.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
There.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
There's definitely a bit of both, because there are days
like yesterday where I just needed to be alone and
process what I was going through. And then there's days
like today where she's touched me a couple of times
and it's quieted my head.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
There is and I can tell by his energy.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, there's a there's a power in knowing that somebody's
got you. But it's also nice if you need that
alone time to just back the fuck up and like
have that alone time. So I would ask him what
it is that he needs, and you should do it
while touching him, right, like put your put his hands
in your you know, do that, look him in his
eyes and be like, I can tell you're not having
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a great time today. I love you and I'm here
for you if you need me. But if you need
me to leave you alone. I can do that as
well and see what they say the worst is gonna happen.
It is like, let me alone for a little while,
and it's not a personal thing. They're just telling you
what you need because you asked. So I found a
list of cheating apps, okay, and I want to talk
about him, and I pulled up I actually pulled up
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the first one the app page so that we can
read what it is.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
And we can do that with all of them if
we want to.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
But this is everybody knows that Snapchat is a cheating app,
right because us to just disappear. There are people who
use Telegram and Signal the same way because you can
make that shit disappear. But it's not a photo sharing thing.
Those are, you know, that's more of a The reason
that that Signal and Telegram are are the way they
are is because those apps are used for.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
And to and peer secure.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's a lot harder to get a warrant like that's
a very different situation than what's app or Snapchat because
of the security of it. So the list of cheating
apps for twenty twenty five, the very first one is
called news Talk. And when I looked it up. I
found Daily news Talk, but it says news Talk is
one of the best secret chat or cheating apps. This
app is designed to look like a regular news app,
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so it's incredibly discreet. Your chats are hidden behind what
seems like a news feed, and notifications come through as
breaking news.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
You access your.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Chats by long pressing a refresh button, entering a password,
and while you're in This app supports messaging, voice calls,
and videos. It also allows you to clear all of
your chats from both sender and receiver's device, which adds
another layer of security. So not only can you delete
your phone's chats whoever you're messaging, you can delete their
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shit too from your own phone, so when you delete it,
it just removes the chat completely. Yeah, this is the
news secret chat. Daily news Talk is what I found
on the I Store and it says on here secret
chat for couples hidden behind news app, looking for the
best secret chat app for lovers, not couples lovers, Daily
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news Talk is a discrete, private messaging app disguised as
a news app, perfect for secret relationships, affairs, or confidential
business chats or hidden chap. I'm sorry our hidden chat
app insores, no traces, no logs, and complete privacy.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
You have to make this bigger. I can't see it.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Here we go, Oh they mean sex work right, confidential
business chats right?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Okay? I was like, what do you mean? Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
So why choose the number one? Private chat app?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Hidden messages, get breaking news alerts for chats, enter a
pin to unlock, no phone number needed, Secure texting with
user names, no personal data, so you can literally make
up any name you want, and so could they. High
definition video and voice calls. Encrypted calls never appear in
call logs, self destructing chats, delete messages at any time,
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Military grade encryption and to end encrypted for secure messaging.
Media stays, hidden photos, videos never save to a gallery.
Perfect for couples in secret relationships. Best hidden chat app
for affairs.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's on there, just putting it out there. Yoh yep.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Private business communication anyone needing discreet text texting without phone numbers.
Key features. This secret Messenger private chat app sends text, photos,
video securely. It goes into everything we already listed. So
the reason that we're doing this, guys, is because we
want you to know the kind of bullshit that could
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be on your person's phone, because there's a whole lot
of things like the calculator one. A lot of people
knows about that. Yeah, but I would have never known that.
And this all came up because I was looking at
YouTube videos today.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
It was like.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Apps that could be on your woman's phone, damn right.
And when the video started, the very first line was
I guarantee you that at least one of these is
already on there.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
So and that was an AI video.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So I closed the video and actually went to Google
and like searched to find a list of the cheating apps.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Okay, so we're laying.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
These out so that you guys can do with this
information with you will. Is there any any questions or
anything you want to add on to that.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Nope. I think this is disgusting.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I do too. I do too.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
This is actually not a cheating app. This is to
catch somebody cheating.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Okay, can you catch a cheater with an app? Found
the best one? Oh, I found the best one. When
I was scrolling through our slash infidelity that read it.
The realization suddenly hit me. Cheaters will go to extreme
lengths to keep their affairs hidden. That's why it's hard
to catch a cheater. Ever heard of secret messaging apps
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or GPF spoofers?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Is that like a scrambler?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think it's a big GPS thing. Okay, it could
be one of those things that gives you a fake location,
like a scrambler would your Probably that's probably what it is.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I've never never looked in any of this shit, right,
but I've also never shared my location with anyone ever
in my life until we got together.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's not a thing for me. It's not something I
ever thought about.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, Continuing people on Reddit casually share these cheating tools
and tricks as if there's nothing shameful about it.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That's because there's a lot of people out there who
cheat without shame. They don't care.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, this whole situation got me thinking, is there a
way for betrayed partners to uncover the truth? That question
sent me to Google, and after hours of search and
searching and testing, I found a one word answer, spyinger.
Here's my honest review of this tiny but powerful app.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Before we get into this, if you need to put
this on your partner's phone, leave your relationship, yes, right,
Like I don't, I don't support this just as much
as I don't support cheating. I think that this is
a major breach of privacy. And what if, like one
of your best friends is on the verge of eliminating
themselves and they're trying to keep all that shit hush hush,
and your partner is a fucking busy body and they
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download the shit on your phone and read it and
go tell o their girlfriends, Like I just yeah, there's
a whole lot of don't do this in this episode, guys.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Uh so what a spy enger?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Spynger says openly that it's a cheating spouse tracker app
No secrets here. The key info is location tracking, call
and text monitoring, social media monitoring, internet activity monitoring, screen recorder, keylogger,
and it is compatible with both Android and iOS doing
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because I'm I couldn't write?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Are you glitching? Is my AI broken?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
You know, I have been feeling some weird thing back
here in my skull.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, meaning to start taking some nootropics.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, that's what that is.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I don't know. Oh, I've been taking them. It's been
helping with my memory.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Word, Okay, I should do that.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I couldn't right now me where I am in my
in my life, in my journey, I couldn't imagine downloading
this app to your phone because I didn't trust you
me ten years ago, my first marriage, even I would
have jumped all over downloading this on his phone. It's insane, right,
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there was a desperation, there was anxiety.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
There was.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
My abandonment, the I need the proof to show him
that I'm right, like, I'm gonna catch you, motherfucker.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
What would have done?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And nothing? It was right because I still would have
decided to.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Leave, right and he still would have cheated right, right.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And like all that process does is just fire me
up more and make me feel more worseless or inadequate,
whatever the case may be. It's I couldn't. I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I could have skipped all of that and just been
I feel like you're cheating on me. And we've had
this conversation multiple times. We can't come to a resolution
over this whatever whatever, whatever I don't have. I don't
trust you, that's it. And if I can't trust you,
we can't have a relationship. Spynger Catch a Cheating Spouse
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app copies and transfers data from your partner's device to
your secure cloud account, and because this happens super fast,
you can see what they're up to in real time. Jeez, okay, yeah,
you know what. I'm glad she like this didn't exist
ten years ago. I would have drone myself absolutely insane.
Like I was already driving myself crazy thinking about when
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he gets from from work, I need to check his Instagram,
when he falls asleep, I need to check Facebook. Like
I would have been absolutely driven mad. My borderline was
peakaotic in my first marriage. I would have drowned in that.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Do you think that this is going to add psychosis
to people's relationships?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I do make spiraling worse.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yeah, child neglect I think may increase, not like not
across the board, but like if child neglect is already
happening because there's turmoil in the marriage going on, things
like this is yeah, going.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
To add to it continuing.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
On top of that, they won't know about spynger running
on their device.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It works in full stealth mode.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
So if you deleted the.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Icon off of their main screen unless they look for it,
they'll never know what's on there, right, crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So what can spynger? What can you do with spyenger?
A whole lot.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
For my Spynger review, I tested over thirty features. I
can give full access to anyone's device, but since you're
here for the tea or receipts, I'll focus on the
top ones that I'll help you catch a cheater right handed.
Communication monitoring a single call or text could be a
dead giveaway of cheating, and Spyinger gives you all the
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juicy details. I hate this to I hate this. What
is this in early two thys teen magazine?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Do you want to just move on to the next thing.
I mean, we can just hit the bullet points. It
monitors communication, internet tracking, GPS, location tracking.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
No, we should read through all of it because.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
So once it's INSTALLAGEDE, you'll be able to monitor their
calls and texts across all apps on their device, even
once they've deleted them. Spyinger has rolled out the call
recorder feature for Android devices so you can hear what was.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Said to.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Internet activity tracking. There are tons of posts saying that
online cheating is a new form of infidelity. Cheating is cheating, period.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, this isn't new, This isn't We aren't just figuring
out that online cheating is a new form of infidelity.
It's it's cheating.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Even without that information, it's clear that cheaters leave digital tracers.
Spyinger finds where they lead your It's the answer to
your question, how do you find out if your partner
is cheating online? With Spyinger, you can monitor your partner's emails,
social media apps, dating apps, and browsing history, all from
your online dashboard.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
This would also work to catch a partner who's been
using porn.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yes, yes it would, so.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Maybe this okay, So in this situation, maybe this could
be one of those things that could be used if
your partner has a porn addiction. Like the duality in
it right, there could be a I don't know, I
still don't like the idea of putting it on there,
and the you know, you would not even be able
to have a private conversation with your mom or your
kids right with this on there, like it makes every
conversation a public conversation.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yes it does.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Continuing it doesn't just display text. Multimedia files are also accessible.
Spyinger even lets you download these files just in case
you need to cop of the evidence. The next one
is GPS location tracking. Lies about whereabouts and sudden routine
changes are classic signs your partners cheating. You know, it
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doesn't lie their phone. That's because all phones these day
comes with GPS chips. And who uses data from this chip?
Phone operators, advertisers, and spynger. It tracks your partner's real
time location on a map. But that's not all. It
also shows their past routes with exact coordinates, addresses, and timestamps.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
See that that is very, very dangerous. It takes one
woman to find out her man has cheated one too
many times and show up at the woman's house.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And then the cops are called.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, or to have a crazy, possessive, controlling man. Yes,
oh my gosh, like this is one of the this
is dangerous. Like, the more you read this, this is
like legitimately dangerous. This could get someone killed.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, yes, yes it can.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Before you get move on though. It's one thing to
willingly share your location on your phone, right, It's another
to have somebody download the shit, delete it off the
homescreen so the app can't be seen, and monitor everything
you do. Yeah, yeah, this could get somebody killed. This
is dangerous.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, I can also see abusive partners using this.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
That's what I'm getting at oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
The next one is screen recorder and key lagger. These
two features make Spyinger the best app to catch a cheater.
The screen recorder automatically snaps screenshots of whatever your partner
is doing on their phone, like opening apps, typing messages,
or browsing websites geez. The key lagger meanwhile, tracks every keystroke.
It gives you copies of deleted messages, search quiies, passwords,
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pin codes, you name it. The key tracking lets you
set up notifications. All you need to do is add
specific words or phrases to a list and spy in.
You will instantly alert you whenever your partner types those
words on their phone.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
That was pretty much it on that.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, I can see this being very dangerous and doing
a whole lot of harm.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Mspy is another monitoring tool. We can skip that calculator
pro plus this app. At at first glance, this app
looks like a basic calculator, but once you enter a
secret code, it opens a hidden message area. You can
send messages, store media, and keep private conversations well hidden.
The best part is no one will suspect the thing.
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This person said. I found it easy and very very
easy to use and cleverly disguised. I want to see
real quick. I'm going to bonus at the end of this. Okay,
I have a bonus one.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Okay, this one is vaulty Stocks.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
This app appears to be a stock market tracker, but
it's really a secret vault for photos, videos, and messages.
Vaulty Stock offers password protection and doesn't draw attention. Is
perfect for keeping personal files hidden.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So this would be one of those things that would
look like a crypto trading app or like an actual
like e trade or something. Yeah, that's fucking crazy, that is.
And you know, even so, even though we're giving you,
guys all these apps that are used for cheating, unless
you know the pins or passwords to get in there,
you're not going to be able to know what they are.
So in order to find these apps, you're going to
have to actually go and search for the apps and
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like the app thing to see if it's downloaded on
their phone. Private message Box This is another app that
looks like a regular app but secretly hide your messages.
It creates a private contact list and stores all of
your conversations with those contacts in a hidden space. He wrote, or,
they wrote. From my testing, it works smoothly and privacy
aspect is solid.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Any thoughts continuing. Next is Hid Hid Hide Hide my Text.
This app does exactly what it says. It hides your
text messages. The app disguises itself as a random app,
like a game or utility, and once you access the
hidden feature, you can read your private conversations. I found
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the interface a bit basic, but it does the job
of keeping chats hidden.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Next one is cover Me.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
This one says it offers a lot of privacy features,
including private messaging and a vault to store your files.
That app allows you to hide contacts and even provide
second phone number to use for secret conversations. They said,
I tested this app extensively and it's perfect for keeping
everything you want in private in one place.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
So knowing that you can store files there, it.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Means that you can any dirty videos or photos that
send to your phone, you can save them.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
That's a whole last thing too.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Next one yep ky ms keep your Media Safe. It
is disguised as a calculator app, but functions as a
vault for your media files and secret messages. You enter
your pastcode and the app transforms into a private space.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Next one is Vault. This is a This says it's
a complete privacy solution. It hides photos, videos, apps, even
your car call logs. You can also create a fake
vault to show others if needed. I found Vault very
effective for those who want to keep more than.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Just messages private.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You can make a decoy vault.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
That's fed up.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's insane.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
It's crazy the links that people will go to to
hide what they're doing, but still do it right.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Instead of just changing your life in the moment, leave
the person you're not happy with.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah. A lot of people won't leave because of fear
of losing shit.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, And people will say kids, we have kids, right,
our finances aren't mesh best secret folder, as a name suggests,
this app is all about hiding files.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
It allows you to lock away photos, videos, and messages.
The app itself looks like a regular folder or utility app,
but it secretly holds all your private information.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
This is also one of those things that if you've
got a person that is using porn or god knows
what else, right, saving that shit to their phone, these
are things that you should be looking or I'm gonna
say that I say this again, though we've said it
several times on this episode, and we've said it throughout
the years. The bigger issue here is that you don't
trust your person. Yes, and if you have to go
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on their phone and start looking for this shit because
you think there might be something going on, you don't
trust them. That's the bigger problem to leave. The last
one on here is called Sneakycam. It's a clever app
that allows you to take photos and videos without showing
them in your phone's regular gallery. The media is stored
in a hidden area within the app. It's a bit
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more niche, but works great for keeping certain media private,
especially when combined with other apps. The bonus one on
this is did you know that you can cheat on
or you can use Spotify to cheat? I didn't look
into it, but that video that I was watching earlier,
one of the things on there was that you can
message people and have like shared music lists, and you
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can send messages in the shared music list.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
That's insane.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, yeah, so people are using Spotify as well.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
It's crazy, It.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Is crazy, absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
So that was our list. Guys.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I know this wasn't This was not meant to be
a really long episode. We can interact with the chat
now for a little while, but we are at a
point now that where we're forty minutes in minus cuts
will be way less than that because I had to
get up and all of that shit. Anything that you
want to add to the conversation before we start interacting with.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
The chat, just final thoughts on that, as if you
need to go to the length of hiding things that
you're downloading apps and disguising and creating decoys and all
of that. Just life will be harder if you're not
with somebody else, right, That's always the case. The varying
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degree of how hard it will be will depend on
the situation that you're in. There are the exceptions to this,
right overall, just oh god, I my first marriage impacked
all my shit, I owned into a beat up super
and moved into a family member's house, put all my
shit in storage and did it as a single mom.
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And I would do it all over again instead of
staying in that situation. If you are someone who feels
the need to download spywear onto your person's phone, leave them.
The trust is not there, right, whether that be they're
not a trustworthy person, Okay, if they are not a
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trustworthy person. They've cheated multiple times and this is the
thirtieth time, and they're not gonna pull the boll.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Over your eyes. That's not the relationship for you.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
If you are somebody who is just constantly anxious and
low self esteem and low self worth and panicky and anxious,
attached and dysfunctional and all those kinds of things you
need to heal, ye, do not invade somebody else's privacy
to satiate the demons within you to make you feel better.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Somebody said that you can use the note app on
your phone today as well, and I never thought about that,
because you could absolutely share notes to work, like in
a document, and that could absolutely use it be a
thing used to cheat. Desiree said it takes more effort
to cheat than just leave, right, I don't think it does.
I think that when it comes down to it, it's
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a lot easier for people to stay and just do
fucked up shit because the idea of leaving could be alimony,
child support, breaking up a family, it could be breaking
up businesses. There could be a whole lot of reasons
that people use to justify what they're doing to themselves.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Because it's what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Especially if you have to go to the links to
do this shit, and there's I'm willing to bet that
for most people, and speaking for my personal life back
in the day previous life, I should say there is
a I'm so disconnected. I don't care about any of this,
but I don't want to lose my shit, So I'm
going to do all the things to make me happy
because I'm I'm devoid of that, and I mean, I
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get it, it's not right right, but that is the
ex nation that a lot of people have. So I
always try sharing apps with my partner, like bills and stuff,
and the app just tells me, no, I didn't know that.
I feel like we should do an email or something
because we got done so quick.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah, I don't know. We can sit here in bullshit,
we can ask answer questions. We have one hundred and
fifty people here. I'm sure a little Q.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And A can happen.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, a lotater tot said yes, email do I thank
you emails to ease the tention. Would you say that
if they put their assets above their emotional well being,
I would say that they absolutely put their yes a phenom.
I would absolutely say that they're putting their assets above
their emotional wellbeing.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
People don't.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Starting over is really fucking hard, and a lot of
people don't have the wherewithal to get back to where
they are at because they had to fight tooth and
nail to get where they are, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
And like the they don't realize that if you've done
it once, doing it again make it's a whole lot easier.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Sure, you may have some debt that you have to
pay alimonies, a motherfucker child sports, some motherfucker but like
you are happy, will far outwiyh that debt? Poco said, Peach,
when's your book dropping?
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Yeah? Peach? When is your book dropping?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
December first?
Speaker 4 (26:08):
How far are you into your book? Peach? How much
have you written to this day? Peach? Tell me?
Speaker 5 (26:17):
So?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I have I have pages written?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah? I pag three. Are we in double digit?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Chip?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Okay, I don't see you right.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
So it's just well, a lot of it's on my phone,
like when I'm sitting in the car to pick up
the kids, or I'm smoking on the back porch typing
away on my phone. It's very discombobulated and I feel
like it doesn't flow, and I'm trying really really hard
not to delete shit.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
So I'm just at a stage where I'm just typing
my thoughts out and then the reorganization of them will come.
Writing's hard for me. I've figured out writing is very
difficult for me.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's very I don't want to say soul exposing, but
it does put a whole lot of vulnerabilities out there.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Somebody said that they feel like that first app would
be really good for a kid's phone. If you guys
are buying phones for your kids, buy Bark phones.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
It does everything that you can do parental control wise, like,
it does all of that, but that's what the phone
is for. So we listen and we don't judge. Chris,
that's funny. Have you thought about translating your book into Spanish?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I have not.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Belle said, stop deleting woman.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Oh gosh, it's so difficult.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Will you sell signed copies on the website of Peach's book, Yeah,
we will, Yes, I do want to. I do want
to read my book. I don't think that I'm going
to do an audio book.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You're going to do the episode.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I think I'm just going to sit down and read
a chapter and release it as content. I would rather
give my book away and have people actually have the
information then make money on it. And at least if
I sit down and I read it, I can interact
with a chat while I'm doing. It'll be fun for me.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I think that's a good idea.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
I think so too. I think so too.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
For maybe I can do like a chapter, a voice
of the broken episodes or something. What age would you
recommend the bark phone? My son is five in October,
but start school and riding the school bus. It makes
me so nervous. I would not buy a five year
old phone. I'm not trying to. I honestly don't want
our kids to have a cell phone until they can
buy their own. I understand the need to like reach
(28:32):
out and like talk to your kids and shit, if
they're like free range children, you can get a flip
phone and give it to them when they go out
to do shit, Like if you're dropping off the Boys
and Girls Club for a nightly dance, you can give
them a phone for that, or a.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Landline emergency phone or something. Right, My first phone was
the Nokia Beat beep walkie talkie thing, and we could
only use it getting on the bus.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Her letting our mom know that, like, hey, we're on
the bus. We're heading home, yeah, or we're heading to
the boys and Girls club where we were going to.
Didn't get my first phone until I was about fourteen,
and it was that the good old flip phone.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I got lucky in that we didn't have that shit
growing up. We had a pager.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The cell phones weren't a thing, readily is set, readily
available thing for normal working class people until I was
fucking twenty.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Yeah, so I wish I grew up without a phone
and access to the internet the way that I had it.
I think it was a like like we just had
a conversation about how you asked me do I think
it'll worsen psychosis for people. I think the Internet as
a whole has been a massive detriment to society, to society,
(29:46):
how we develop, how we process things.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, somebody suggested air tag for your kids. I'd throw
an air tag in their shoes, lift that foam up,
stick it right unerneth of their shoe.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
We should do that.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
By the time your kid needs new shoes, that air
tag will be ready to die. Yeah, because you're buying
new shoes every every eight to twelve months for your kids.
They're growing so damn quick, Yes they are.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I couldn't pick up our son the other day. I
almost had a mental breakdown, not even in publics, like
and the cart return section of publics.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
That's because he's too big to be in a cart.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Oh well it was the race car cart.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah, he's too big for.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
That, I know.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
But they were like, let's get in the cart. And
I was like, okay, come here, bubby.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
And I went to go pick him up, and like,
I lifted him a few feet off the ground and
my back went, bitch, what are you doing? And I
put them back down and I was like, oh, this
is to day. I'll never fucking forget it.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Like, if you look panicked right now, I do you
totally had a panic.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I was, yes, what do you mean? I can't pick
up my baby anymore?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
It's funny you pretty soon he'll be able to pick
you up.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Stop.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yeah, think about it.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Oh my gosh, I'm raising a man. Ah, it's funny.
Why did you do this to me? Cry? This is
the abuse, everybody. This is what my husband does to
make me cry.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I definitely would like to read my shit for free.
I think even the new one. I gotta be honest.
The money is nice to make from selling books, but
knowing that we're helping people does more for me. I
don't think it really matters to me.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
It's doing dancing over food.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Very excited.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Huh yep, our lunch will be ready at twelve oh nine.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Would you like to go with me to pick it up?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I would not. I don't want a public It's.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You and me. Ivy girl. I may oh my gosh,
oh sorry.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I may sit down and do the first chapter of
my book while you're gone. Somebody suggested that I do
it at the women's retreat. I'm not bringing all of
this shit to the women's retreat.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
We the last couple's retreat. We didn't bring in check
with us other than our phones and our blogging camera.
I'm I'm, I mean, I could do it with a
blogging camera, hook my little micup and do my thing.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
But you're gonna be able to go live like that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I'd rather do it live. Yeah, yeah, I know that
I can go live from my phone. I can do
YouTube lives from my phone. I could probably make that work,
but I don't think I want to. Yeah, what were you?
Oh my god? Because the Ivy thing.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Oh, yesterday morning. So I have a hard time getting
up super early.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Guys. So my first alarm's at five am.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Oh you're one of those people. I'm so glad I'll
hear your alarm.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
So my first alarm goes off at five am. I
have another alarm set for six, So I like, I
lay in bed and I just kind of like lay
there and I wake up a little bit, and then
my second alarm goes off at six and that's my
get out of bed alarm, and that's when I get up.
I take Ivy out, I use the bathroom, and then
I sit on the couch and like I do some stretching,
I do some breathing, and then Ivy, weill, why are
(32:58):
you keep going out?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I can go keep going off topic, okay.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
But I sometimes I'll just lay on the couch for
like ten minutes, preparing to have to deal with grumpy children.
And yesterday morning, Ivy came over and she like flopped
on top of me, and her head was right here
next to my head, but her whole tummy was exposed
and she was like she was laying on me like
a bed, and it was it was a really sweet,
loving ivy moment.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I did I give her all the tummy scratches we have.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
We have a bathroom on our back porch. Do full bathroom?
Yeah right, there's a showering and everything. There was also
a massage room attached to it, but we don't use
it for that. It's just storage space. Yeah. You use
that bathroom out there when you let dog out in
the morning, don't you sometimes? Okay, because I can hear
the toilet flush in there. Yeah, no, or coughing. We're
crying when you go in there to cry. You think
that you're being discreet. Back at the bedroom bathroom.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Hang on back, It's been like a year since I've
cried in that bathroom.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Hasn't been that long, It hasn't been. Is that the truth?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Okay, I don't think it is.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
But okay, Oh my gosh, that's funny. I don't know
how you guys do that alarm thing when if you
if you have your alarm go off and you get
out of bed right away, It's gonna be a little
hard at first, but you actually are going to be
more energetic throughout the day, because when you do the
micro sleeping, you're not going into full ram sleep and
(34:19):
your body's not able to reset, and it actually does
a whole lot of like negative shit to your body.
Forty five minutes to one hour is an actual sleep
cycle necessary to get into our trim sleep. So if
your alarm goes off and you're hitting your alarm every
fifteen minutes, you're allowing your body to start to fall
asleep and you're jerking it out. It's better to just
(34:39):
get out of bed than to allow that to happen.
How do you feel about interviewing people? Like, without me,
that's something you'd be interested in doing. Should I be
looking for people women for you to interview?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Put a peg in it, come back to it another time.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I had that The plant medicine video that we recorded
with Michael Lang, or that I recorded with Michael Lang
aired this morning and dropped on Spotify, and I watched
the entire thing. I feel like I'm pretty good at
interviewing people. Maybe that's my ego, maybe not. I don't know,
but I enjoyed it and I enjoyed watching it, so
I want to do more of that. I just have
to find people that are interesting to talk to or
(35:21):
have some kind of crazy story that i'd want to
get into. Yeah, so I think I'm going to start
looking into to trying to find other people for me
to sit down and interview. Haley Joyce that I've been
waking up two minutes before my alarm recently for the
past couple months. That's fucking awesome because you're not being
jolted awake by or whatever the sound is. She didn't
even like that.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah, you know, I have gentle bird songs to wake
me up in the morning.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I don't hear your alarm. I hear you get out
of bed, but I never hear your alarm go off.
It means you're a lighter sleeper than I am.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I'm a very light sleeper. Yeah. I can hear the
children call my name from across the house.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah, I hear it when they get to the door,
and I want to throw shit at them.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
It's three am. Go back to sleep.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, Yeah, I would never do that, but I think
about it every time they yell from our bedroom door.
I wonder if I could hit them with my pillow,
And then I realized that like that pillows heavy.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
As fuck and it would totally knock them over.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
And then I realized what's really stopping me, though, is
knowing that I would not have my pillow without getting
out of.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Bed, right, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I would never actually throw one of those pillows. We
have a purple pillow, so it's got like the sponging
whatever that is that pillows heavy as shit, it is.
That's so funny, Belle said, alarm sounds give me too
much anxiety. I'm not starting my day that way.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I remember when the only alarm sounds you had on
the phone were the pre downloaded ones. You couldn't use
anything but those, and they were all jarring like alarm,
car alarm fucking yep.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Definitely woke up with palpitations.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Tatter Todt said, yes, courage and curve interviews. Why why
is it got to be that? Why can't we do
it for to be better? Why can't we do it
for both? But specifically, why did you pull it to that.
I wanted you to interview people for to be Better
so that we have extra content that we can post.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Yes, I'm down to interview people, but I want to
be things I'm interested in.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Right, I feel the same way. I'm not going to
talk about things that I don't want to talk about.
That's why we don't do interviews. You know, you know
we get and Jenny can verify this. The amount of
interviews that requests that we get from publishers that people
want to be on our podcasts that I know don't
listen to our podcast is just publishers mass emailing podcasts
to get their people on there. I don't want to
do that. I've actually asked Zach and Jenny when they
(37:44):
get those emails to email back and be like, have
you actually listened to our podcast?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Do you know what we do?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Because I don't want to talk about your whatever the
fuck it is if it's not relevant to our platform.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Gothic momos that I like the Guard interviews. They are
very informative.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
I nixed the Garden interviews. I appreciate that I nixed
them because I didn't like the quality of people that
were coming in. And I say that because the Garden
interviews happened what over a year ago, it's.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Been it's been over a year, right, it's been closer
to that was that was the beginning of year two.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yeah, so we were still finding our footing and there
were a lot of mishaps happening, and someone got really
pissy about it. Someone got really shitty and talked a
lot of shit on TikTok about me.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
That went a whole lot further than just TikTok. That
person tried to create a create a podcast just to
go against what you were doing.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
And that was.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
That wasn't even like a that was that was a
whole ass ship show. Yeah, And I'm not going to
get too far into it, but we had an audio video.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
It was an audio issue.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
The audio was was not right, and instead of trying
to release the content with just the camera audio, which
was fucking garbage because the mixer wasn't right, we just mixed.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It and I forgot to email her, right.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
And instead of them reaching out and being like, hey,
when's our episode going to release so that we could
have had a conversation about it, they fucking took to
the internet and bashed this right, And I gotta be honest,
I listened to that because I was sitting there. The
interview wasn't good anyways, Like the conversation wasn't good. We
have a platform. When it comes down to it, we
have the discretion to not use content. So even if
(39:31):
we didn't want to use it and everything worked, it's
our platform. You weren't getting paid for being there. You
were trying to promote your own shit that you were
trying to create. The fact that we were even willing
to have you on should have been a blessing at
that point. Like get Wrecked, Fawn said, I love the
Gypsy Rose one so good. Jenny said that she really
enjoys the she told me earlier in the interview when
(39:53):
that she enjoys interviews and she enjoys your book breakdowns
a lot. So if you don't want to interview people,
we could go back to book breakdowns and do extra
content as book breakdowns. We're ahead, Like we're so far
ahead that we don't have to record content for a while.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I enjoy doing book breakdowns.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yeah, what would you do? Would you do some like
thriller shit or would you do something other than relationship stuff?
I mean, it's kind of our stick.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
But you want to do nineteen eighty four?
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Oh god, do you really want to get into that?
I don't know if I can do that. I honestly
like real shit. That brings out the paranoia in me,
like you wouldn't fucking believe, and that could go very
bad for it.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I also have the Animal Farm.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
I think I could probably get away with that one.
Nineteen eighty four is going to make me crazy?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Okay? Or Radium Girls, Oh, that's a good one. We
could do that.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
You didn't you start that?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I almost finished it?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
No, I meant didn't you start doing the book breakdowns
for that?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I don't think I did?
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Are you sure or where? We just talked about it
a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I think we talked about I'm a most.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Positive you started that. Maybe we didn't use it.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I'm almost positive you started doing that. Can you do
book breakdowns of the books on the band book list?
That would be kind of nice.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I almost sent.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Jen Ay and buff bella video of me playing my
handpan this morning, and I got self conscious about it
and didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Because my nails are an issue while I play, And
even though like what I'm playing sounds good, you can
hear the tapping of my nails in it, and it
made me self conscious.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
I think that would do really good for your accountability.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
What do you mean.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I think that you doing that and sending it to people.
I think that it would booster your self confidence, your
self esteem because they would hype you up, regardless of
how it sounded.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
I believe that.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
I believe that they would encourage you to keep going right,
that's encouragement. They would ask you when the next one's coming,
because they support what you're doing, and it would it
would make you play and not to your best ability,
but it would make you think about what you're doing
and try to put out the best product possible.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Not a bad idea, babe. Oh God saying you got
to do it?
Speaker 5 (42:11):
I'm just you know, no, I know I had mallets
that came with it, but I can't find the mallets.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
You have to get our.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Food, okay.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Somebody Maddie g asked what advice we would have for
somebody wanting it to get into plant medicine. That would
depend on what kind of plant medicine that you're wanting
to get into. But I would I would do a
whole lot of research, not only like on the internet,
but like books of what you're trying to get into
from people who are respected. I actually want to have
a an honest Q and a about plant medicine and
(42:43):
the discords like in the discord, not on YouTube, but
like an actual discord thing. And that's something that I
would like to do in the next couple of weeks.
I have a whole lot of things I wanted to
talk to you about after this, but.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
We can do it over lunch. Yeah, it's not gonna
take me long to pick it up.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Well, you got to leave in three minutes to get lunch.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Right, and then I'll be back before twelve thirty.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Okay, and we hit almost an hour. I think we're
at an hour, so this will be a little bit
under an hour, but.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
With that being said, guys, thanks for tuning in. We
hope that the cheating apps brought you some sort of
information and hopefully they're not on your partner's phone and
hopefully you're not using them because you know you're listening
to this podcast.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
You should do better.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Shame shame D shame Dyes.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
With that being said, guys, remember you were the author
of your own life. Grab a pen and we will
see you on the next one.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Bye, guys,
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