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October 10, 2025 • 65 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
And we are back.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome back, you beautiful creatures.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
We're gonna be doing some Friday content. This will be
the third episode that we've done where we've answered card questions,
calling them fun casts, although there's been tiers at both
of them so far. Hopefully today yere's none. That would
be great.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh I didn't use my sentence bray today.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I well, hopefully we don't cry. That'd be great for
those of you who are curious as to what's going
on with our life right now in terms of our internet,
because we've had a couple of people ask I am
now speaking to somebody via Google meeting every single day
at ten am Eastern Standard time about what's going on
with our internet. And we found out this morning that
something has not been closed out on their end and

(01:01):
they're waiting on one more final piece of the job
to be done. So they're gonna call me again tomorrow
give me another update. And the woman that I spoke
to said hopefully it'll be next week when they can
come out and install, but I am not optimistic.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I'm not holding my breath on that yet. It sucks,
you know, there's part of me that's really pissed off.
Because there's something that's not closed She said it was
showing clothes in her system, which means somebody forgot to
do something well.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
She said, the job was done in her system. Yeah,
but there were things that were not closed out, so
somebody didn't do their job right.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Somebody dropped the ball, and like, part of me is
really mad about it, and I want to be angry,
and like, do you know the inconvenience you have imposed
on our life by this right, And there's another part
of me is like this, this guy, your chick is
probably super stressed out trying to knock out forty of
these a day, and.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
The grand scheme of it. It's really not that big
of a deal. It sucks for us, but to the
rest of the world, like, oh yeah, it's not the
first world problems, Like oh no, they don't have internet, boohoo,
but at least they have clean drinking water, you know
what I mean. Like, so I think about that shit
when I get mad about it, because I've been mad
about it, and that's been my simmer down motherfucker. Like
it's not that bad. All right. Today we're gonna be

(02:07):
doing part three of the cards that we were doing
this is the fun Cast, as we've been calling it.
We are doing content that is not emails for Friday,
and it's been very enjoyable and we have found something
to do that we enjoy. So now that we've gone
through both of these decks, we have to find something
else so that we can continue doing Friday content that
is enjoyable for us and keep the Monday stressful content

(02:28):
as the podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I also have to plug the men's group real quick.
The men's retreat I have yours is completely sold out.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
No, I'm excited for you.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
No, I'm oh.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I wasn't sure if you were excited because you sold your.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Retreats jazz fingers, because you're doing a man's retreat.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
We have I think ten spots left for that retreat
and once, yeah, we only had fifteen begin with, so
it's not like we've sold a whole lot. It's not
even halfway sold out yet.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
But I'm still excited about it.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
But this is going to be the only one of
these I do. Yeah, and if it sells out all
the way, I am ninety percent sure I will not
do one of these again. So that's where I stand
now now. If this retreat goes, it fires off, and
like there's crazy life changing shit that happens, and that
ninety percent will become like twenty percent that it's not
going to happen again because that's going to be based

(03:17):
off of life experience versus perspective. And I am also
considering heavily opening up a private men's group that does
one on ones twice a month, like you do with
your your Sacred Women or Awaken women's group.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I think that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I don't want to why. It's time. Time is the
biggest thing. There's a lot of pressure there. I have
to try to make my schedule work around your schedule,
the podcast and other people's schedules to get them on
the calls. It's it's just a lot, a lot of
what if. And I don't want to charge somebody that

(03:53):
kind of money to do something and it not bring
values to their life.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I am very worried about the cost to reward for people,
and I just don't I don't know, I provide a
lot of worth. I don't feel that though that's just
me being honest. I really don't like I am going
to listen to somebody complain about their life for forty
five minutes, give them fifteen minutes of advice of how
I would handle the situation, and then have to wait

(04:19):
for two weeks to hear from them and see if
they implemented it, and then if they don't implement it,
that's definitely not going to fix them or help them.
They've definitely wasted money and I've taken it and wasted
all of our time. There's just a whole lot of
what if that falls under all of that, and I'm
not I guess it's one of those things that I'm
just gonna have to do to do. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
I mean, it's worth trying it, Yeah, seeing how you
feel after it, there is a lot of hesitation to me.
I was also worried about scheduling, working around the kids,
making sure we still have time for each other, and
likewise with the am I really providing anything.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Here right of value?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah? After the calls, I feel the same way I
do like meet and greets.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, well, because those retreats feel good afterwards.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, So it also depends on who I'm speaking to.
You know, all of them are good. I feel like
every call has progressed every time We've had one with
every woman I'm working with, but there's a different connection
because they're also willing to be open and willing to
actually implement the things. If it was somebody who every
call it was the same complaint or the same gripe.

(05:24):
And well, what about the challenges that we discussed last week? Oh,
well I didn't really have time for it. And well
you said that for the last three weeks.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
And yeah, I also realized that I can fire a client.
That's something that I've been big on my entire life.
So in the event that somebody is not doing what
they need to be doing and they're just wasting my time,
I will kick them out of the group and just
open that spot to somebody else.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Oh I'm so lenient. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I mean no, I mean like that's good.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I too would be doing that if somebody was wasting
the spot. If I felt like another woman could take
that spot and actually gain value from it, and they're
not blaming everything else in their life or not taking
accountability and it is expecting me to fix everything for them, Yeah,
I would say this isn't working. Yeah, I'm going to

(06:11):
refund you this month, cancel, you going forward, thanks for
giving it a try.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, good wishes all those kinds of things.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I also know like life is busy and things happen,
and like life makes it hard to overcome obstacles mentally
and in relationships.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
So I feel like I give a little bit more leeway.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, steps that. I wonder why why it is that
the gals that join the ladies retreats are excited, willing
to open, to learn and grow and change. But that
holds different for a men's group. It's not that it
holds different. The men who are coming are fucking stoked
because we created a discord. The men who in that
discord are fucking pumped be going. One of them even
bought two extra spots that we're going to give away
to people, so like, we've really only sold three spots.

(06:56):
The other two are are giveaways that have been sold
to help other people out.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Wait, but he bought them.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Bought three spots, one for him and two to give away,
So he's that and like gung ho about it that
he's really trying to help other people. So it's not
that it's it's not different. It's men are less likely
to spend money on themselves. They're more likely to spend
money on their women and do things to make their
women happy. So when a woman goes to a man
and is like, I want to go to this women's

(07:22):
retreat blah blah blah, they're like, here, go, babe, go
do it, where a man is less likely to even go, hey, babe,
I think there's this men's retreat that could really help me.
Like that conversation is not even going to come up.
So I think the way that those those things are
going to actually work is if the women who are
in discord, who have men in discorder, like you need
to fucking go to this, it'll make our relationship better,
and they push for it, than the retreat will sell out.

(07:43):
But there's the catch side of that is if they
sell the retreat out based off of their women wanting
them to be there, how much work are they going
to go and do while they're there? And is it
going to be a waste of time? Like that's that's
really where my head lands and all this shit. All right,
let's get in these questions because we have food on
the way. You guys are gonna get to watch his
eat sushi. At some point, there's seventy people in here
right now, which means our live streams definitely do better
in the day than at night, because last night we're

(08:04):
at like forty Okay, what do you promise to do
to make the world a better place?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
This, the podcast, the women's groups, the retreats. I want
to expand as this continues to grow as things.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
The expansion is exciting.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, I want to continue reaching people on Okay, so
I want to say their level, but like, not meanly,
I'm above them, so to elaborate on the their level,
that was my first thought.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I know what you mean by that, right, I mean
you can't have to explain that, but go ahead.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Talking to them one on one living So I'm able
to do this thing where like, if I close my
eyes and I concentrate, I can experience quote unquote not truly,
like I'm not going to really feel the pain or
the suffrage or even the excitement that somebody can go through,
but applying my own moments where I have experienced that

(09:03):
listening to someone tell their story, I can impose that
feeling that they're trying to share and kind of live
vicariously through them. Yeah, and I can't remember I was
going with that because I got so focused on explaining it.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's about holding space where they are. You used at
their level, but it's where they are pretty much because
we've all either been there or we're going there, so
there is a level of humanity that has to be there.
But we can hold space for you here where you
are to get you to where you're trying to go.
It totally made sense to me when you said it.
I was kind of shocked that you stopped to elaborate.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I feel like I had to.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't know why I did that. I think it's
it's TikTok. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I don't spend so
much time on TikTok. It alters the way that I
interact with the things.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
You know what. You know what I'm gonna start doing
on TikTok When I get tho stupid comments, I'm gonna
I'm going to reply back to that person be like, bitch,
you heard what I said, and that's gonna be my response.
So there's be a whole lot of those videos coming up.
I love it because I'm not going to backpedal if
I fucking said what I said and you're too dumb
to understand it or to offend you. That's a you
problem across the board. I had that realization when I
was talking about holding your titties on TikTok earlier.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I love everything about that, everything somebody's you.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Get, but hurt about that, Oh yeah, and then I'm
gonna have to check them. What do you promise to
do to make the world a better place? My answer
to that, I need to find a way to so
the Voice of the Broken, Oh man, this is not
even time for this, but it just came up. The
Voice of the Broken's done at this point. I don't
think I'm going to continue Voices of the Broken. I
have one more episode that I want to do because

(10:35):
we have a seventy page email. But I want to
do that with you, and I want you to read
the email, and I want to treat it as as
I'm that person going through that You are my partner
or the you know whoever it is in my life,
and and like we're going to try to problem solve
in a different spectrum than what we've been doing on
the Voice of the Broken. But if that doesn't feel

(10:55):
right to me, I'm done, okay. But my want to
do to make the world a better place, says I
want to impact men's mental health to some degree, whether
it's a small scale or a massive scale, like I need.
There is a primal desire into me to hold space
for men who are wanting to kill themselves. That you
know what I mean, And like, it's hard, and it's

(11:16):
really fucking hard to be in that moment, to one
be vulnerable with somebody that you don't fucking know, and
then on the other side of that, it's really fucking
hard for somebody like me to get through to somebody
like that because if they're coming to me for answers,
I can't give you answers, but I can be there,
and there's there's the difference, And like, if I can
find the right people, I can really make a fucking change.
But if people are just looking at trauma dump and

(11:37):
they're not trying to actually change their life, at that point,
I'm not. I'm literally just an ear and I can
do that all day long. That's easy. Just sitting there
in silence and holding space is fucking simple. But I
want to provide solutions for people that's going to help
them change their lives.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yes, So I also want to I think this is
going to be something I'm going to do once the
children are a lot older or even on their own,
real lean into like motherhood guidance and providing spaces for
single moms and moms who have lost their husbands I mean, yeah,
moms who've lost their husbands like widows.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, okay, there's communities that can be built around that too.
You said that, you said that you want to see
where this is going in the future, and Sabrina in
the chat said, from you guys getting stoked for the
first fifty people in discord to fucking retreats and traveling
with everyone the growth.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Oh man, I haven't thought about that in a hot minute.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
I think about all the time. I am. There is
not a disillusionment when it comes to where we are at.
I remember sitting in this room at our kitchen table,
freaking out because ten people subscribe to our patreo.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah that's what I think about.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I remember the first one hundred dollars on Patreon.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yep, like it was fucking unreal, Like we were beside ourselves,
and I remember I remember, so you guys, I'm not
going to give you the floor plan of my house,
but the way our house is set up. If I'm
in this room and she's in the living room, I
can yell at the top of my lungs and she
can barely hear me. If she's in the bedroom, which
which is you know, another ten feet, she can't hear me.
So there would be times where she would be in

(13:04):
the other half of the house and I'm screaming at
the top of my lungs. New Patria.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, for a little bit, I had my watch on
and I would do the same thing and try to
beat you to it.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, yeah, So what is next for us though? And
speaking of while you think of that, speaking of Patreon,
All right, guys, as you know, there was a TikTok scare.
We lost the app for a whole twelve hours and
we have no idea what the future of the app
looks like. And with that, we are very concerned about
the loss of our following. We have a massed almost
three million followers across that platform with all four of
our accounts, and we are trying to push people to

(13:37):
other social media platforms to that in the event that
anything happens on one app, we have multiple other backup plans.
If you want to make sure that you're not missing
any content. We highly recommend that you check out our Patreon.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
On Patreon, we have multiple tiers to choose from. Starting
at ten dollars, you begin to receive exclusive content. At
fifteen dollars a month, you get access to our private
discord server where we've en masked in an absolutely amazing
community of supportive people. And beyond that, we have other
tiers to check out, along with my two private women's group.
If that's something you may be interested in.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Guys, on our fifteen dollars and higher tier, you have
access to live recordings. We record all of our content three, four,
sometimes five times a week live in front of our
Patreon audience, where they are able to chat with us
while we are recording. They can see all the flirting,
the outtakes, the hot topic conversations that never actually make
it on the podcast, and it's really worth that aspect
in itself. We have it after Dark, where we sit

(14:30):
down usually once a week and have a glass of
bourbon or and Peach's case of glass of wine and
a bowl of cheese and we have a whole lot
of fun conversations karaoke in the discord. We finish the lyrics.
We literally just hang out and you guys get to
hang out with us. There is a host of other perks,
including zoom calls that are coming for the Ultimate tier,
so that if you guys are having problems, you can
talk to us. It also gives you with the heads

(14:52):
up on private meet and greets because when we travel
we try to meet up with people on our discord
on a regular basis. There's a whole slew of other
perks that come through Patreon, and I highly recommend that
you check it out.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
The best way to support what we are doing is
to share the content. The second best way is to
check out our Patreon Thank you guys for being here.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Patron shouts should make it come back. I mean, we
don't get them as often as we used to. We
were getting them all the time before. We get it
like one or two a week now.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah. There used to be a daily thing, back to
back to back to back.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, the people who wanted to be here. Yeah. Well,
and that'll change when when we have internet. We plan
on doing public YouTube lives again. So what is what
was the answer to that in terms of what is
the next step of growth for you? In terms of
the podcast or in terms of to be better, we
can't even call it a podcast because to be better

(15:40):
is more than that. Now we are doing couples retreats
right doing like international retreats. We are doing things to
physically in person change lives. So what is the next step?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
I want to do more male and female focused topics.
Can you elaborate on that, like what birth control does
to sex drive? Okay, postpartum depression after a baby, Yeah,
kind of like the article thing that we were doing,
but more reaching out to people who aren't even looking

(16:12):
for a relationship right now, like they want to focus
on not giving up tomorrow morning.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I don't know. I don't know what the answer is
for the next step of this. I know that in
terms of content creation, those articles did not do well,
and they didn't do well across every platform, Like they
did well on the lives that people enjoyed them, but
like the clips that we got from them were garbage
because it was not us, it was you reading, and
it was not a whole lot of back and forth.

(16:39):
I think the next evolution is going to be us
doing live calls. I think that's actually an answer, Okay,
and I'm willing to do that for the people in discord.
I would like it to be with the Ultimate Tier
so that people join the Ultimate Tier. Speaking of which,
we have the new shirt design for this quarter, and
I have to I've been waiting until we get big
deposits in so that I can have a role because
it's free and it cost us a lot of money

(17:01):
to do the shirts. He shirt's like seven dollars apiece,
and I want to make sure that money's there before
we start sending out shirts, so that'll happen here in
July at some point. It's pretty cool. It's a pretty
cool shirt. Vibe designed it again. It's the when you
showed me right, Yeah, yeah, the FBI one.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
I like that. I'm excited for that.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Ye all right, let's get to the next one. All right, next,
what five entrepreneurs dead or alive would you like to
have over for dinner?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Do we think scientists are entrepreneurs?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Well, it's supposed to be somebody that it would be
like business owner entrepreneurs. So what do you mean by
a scientist, Because if it's a scientist that opened his
own business, that did something that would qualify him as
an entrepreneur, although he would probably call himself a scientist.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
First, Marie Curie if they believe that's her name, the
woman who discovered radio.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Okay, but what did she do with it?

Speaker 3 (17:53):
A lot? Okay, Well, well she discovered it, like she
went through the whole process. It was a year's process.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
We'll just go with that then, Okay, So who are
the other four? So I would love to put Oh
my gosh, I talk to her pick her brain the
other four? Oh no, this is gonna piss a lot
of people off. Donald Trump?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Why would that piss people? Fuck people? Who cares?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Dude is a entrepreneurial genius.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
He did write the art of the Deal?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah he did. Who else? Can you think of any.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I would want to I would want to sit down
with Elon Musk as much as he's done a whole
lot of things that I don't like, but I want
to talk to him about why. Okay, there's a lot
of people that haven't putting this together yet. And we
talked about this a little bit yesterday. He's creating Neuralink,
and he's one of the largest AI companies on the planet,
and because he bought Twitter, he now has access to

(18:50):
all of the data from multiple humans and he owns
all of it. He can do whatever he wants with it,
and he's using it to feed neuralink and his AI
and all of that self driving cars. Yeah, massive solar energy,
all of that kind of stuff, rockets to get things
to Mars and everything that he's doing here on Earth,
the tunnels for his cars to drive under to live underground,
the robots, the AI, the batteries, the solar everything that

(19:14):
he is doing. He is doing and my belief so
that he can get shit on Mars automated without us
being there.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Could you imagine?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I can't imagine. Now. I also know that there has
been a fungus mushroom that has proven to not only
exist or thrive in the same atmosphere atmospheric conditions that
are on Mars Way, but in a container it can
convert that atmosphere and create oxygen, so it can create

(19:43):
a sustainable atmosphere in the event that it was able
to thrive on Mars, and with the robots and everything
he's doing, we could technically terraform Mars. I would like
to have that conversation with him, because that is every
sci fi nerds dream conversation, and you can have it
with somebody who's actually taking the steps to get there.
I think that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I'm gonna make him number three.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Okay, that's good, right, holy shit number four, Jenna said
the lady who made Akwa Tafauna.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I would want these to be recorded dinners to be
used for content.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, So that's going to change my answers a little bit.
And because somebody in the in the chat said Steve Jobs,
and that's not somebody I would want to sit down with. Now,
why I wouldn't want to sit down with him, however,
he has because he's a piece of shit human being.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Oh gotcha.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Okay, there's a whole lot of technological advances and things
that were stolen and things that he did. But the
child labor with iPhone and like all of the things
that's currently happening still with Apple that people just overlook
is a problem for me, and it was very big
when he was still in charge running the company. However,
I would have him over for a dinner to talk

(20:51):
psychedelics because he said that taking LSD was one of
the most how did he word it, one of the
most crucial? Wasn't word he used, but it was one
of the most important things that he had ever done, profound,
profound things that he had ever done in his life,
and he he had credited. I want to say the
iPhone or iPod touched to his use of LSD, so like,

(21:12):
there's a whole lot, Like I want to have those conversations.
I want to shake the foundation of people's worlds. I
really do. I would love to sit down with Paul Stamens.
He's an entrepreneur. He's alive, Paul, right.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Like, yeah, I oh man, five is hard.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
It is well because there's so many options out there,
there's so many cool brains to like talk to you.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I need to do research on this. I can't give
you my five right now.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah. I would like us to be on the Diary
of a CEO podcast at some point. That would be
pretty fucking cool for both of us, although we're not
on his level of content creators like he's he's interviewing
people who are actually changing the world and doing cool shit.
But that would be it for me. That Steven is
his name, so that's three. I would I know Gandhi
wasn't an entrepreneur, but I would have really liked to

(21:54):
have sat down and talked to him. I believe that
he is the most powerful man who's ever existed.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Gandhi yep, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Number five. Who would number five be?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Oh, Cleopatcha would be a dope one.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, She's a history figure, though not an entrepreneur.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
I would argue that the way that she had to
run that empire was very much like making crucial business moves.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
I'm going to pick Simon Sinek from my fifth Yeah,
that would be That's pure selfishness on my part. Why
Because he is, and my beliefs, one of the smartest
men alive in like his field, and he is very
well spoken, and I have not listened to a single

(22:39):
episode of anything that he's been on that has not
profoundly changed my thought process. And I think that if
I was able to ask the questions of him, I
would come away a different human being than I went
into that dinner.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
I believe that.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
So, who's your fifth.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
God? I don't know, Like now that I recognize we
can go past like I know you said it, it just
didn't register, like going like into the past, into the past.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
You can use Cleopatra because I use Gandhi. That's cheating,
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Gandhi is pretty dope.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
There are a lot of people from history that I
would like to sit down and have a conversation with. Yeah,
I would like to have two conversations with Malcolm X,
one before his trip to Mecca and one afterwards. I
would want to talk to him while he still fucking
hated white people, and I would like to I would.
I would have loved to have like picked his brain
and to have an honest conversation with him, and then

(23:33):
to see how much his perspective changed towards the end
of his life before he was murdered. Like that would
be a really cool thing to do. Oh hell yeah,
but you know time machines, definitely they're not yet. So
you try for a fifthy you whant to move on?

Speaker 3 (23:46):
No, it's too overwhelming for me. I'll think about this
and maybe, like in a house cleaning all, remember those
five guys.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Are you happy?

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Am I happy?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
That's the question?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
I am happy?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Do you have joy?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
I do?

Speaker 1 (24:02):
It's different joy and happiness I do too. It's not
something that I thought I would ever be able to say.
Like when I when I look back across the course
of my life. I don't. If you would have asked
me seven years ago, if I would, if I would
ever have held true joy in life, I would have

(24:23):
told you that that's not in the cards for me.
It's an easy question, but it's a hard thought process. Yeah,
who is the person you'd most like to say sorry too?
But haven't you skip this one?

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Okay, Yeah, there are some things that we don't want
to put on the podcast, guys, So how can you tell?
The difference?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
All different than what.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Between joy and happiness? Happiness is fleeting. Happiness can be
the moment of getting a text message from somebody that
you haven't heard from in a long time and it
brightens your day. It could be walking by a cucumber
in your garden, noticing that there's a cucumber there, shout
out to Jenna. It could be you know, your kid

(25:06):
doing good in school, or telling you that they're you know,
they had a good day like It could be a
whole lot of things that just bring you a little
bit of peace in the moment to make you feel
like you're doing the right.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Thing, getting a compliment from the person you love.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Right, those are happy moments. They're cool. It's it's dopamine hits.
But having joy is a level of peace and understanding
that like your life is good right, like you have
no real worries, there's peace there. I have a really
hard time definding what joy is other than I am
at peace. I know that I'm loved. I know that

(25:39):
the people that look to me for support are supported.
I don't have to worry about if I if I
have enough money to get gas. I don't have to
look at what we're doing for food. Like there's a
level of security and comfort there that that makes me
feel at peace in our life, and that brings joy
to me. I know that, And this is kind of
an extreme example, but I know that if I wanted

(26:01):
to do something, I can do whatever the fuck I want,
and there's a freedom in that, and that freedom brings
me joy.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
So I agree with all of that.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
If you had to give all of your money away
to one organization tomorrow morning, what organization would it be?

Speaker 2 (26:15):
And why give all my money away?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
I'm not giving shit away to an organization. I would
start my own shit.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, it would have to be tomorrow morning.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Tomorrow morning, yep.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
So you giving all of your everything away to your
own organization that you would have to create in the
next twenty twelve or fourteen hours. Fifteen hours would be Oh.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
No, I'd have that set in place, right, Okay, we
need to create.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Wills, right, so we'll trust. But yeah, trust you need
to So you need to answer the question and not
dug it. You have to find that.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
There is I'm gonna be honest, there's really not a
lot of organizations that I trust to get my money to. Like,
there are causes that I want to help, like homeless children,
animal shelters, those kinds of things, but I can't name
I'm not going to do like fucking PETA or whatever
that organization is. I would never give my money to them.

(27:05):
I would have to do research on probably like a
family owned.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Non for profit to be able to help with things.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
I would give it all to Troy. Yeah, change un chained.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
That's a good one. I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Oh this is kinky. Oh what pain with lines all
around it do you enjoy having? Should we skip? Let's
skip this all right? Next?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Why are we giving it? Next?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
What are the failures you cherish the most?

Speaker 3 (27:44):
What are the failures that I cherish the most?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, that was a really good worded question. I feel
like we answered a lot of last night, though I agree.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I feel like we answered a lot of the last night.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
So that one get cut to what was the best
conversation you ever had? And why?

Speaker 3 (27:59):
What was the best conversation I've ever had? And why
there's too many of them for there to be just
the best. I've had a lot of impactful conversations.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
This is hard because of what we do for a living. Yeah,
we talked to a lot of fucking people.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Right, I'm going to pull a conversation from my early twenties.
I was fresh from leaving my first husband and I
was dating a guy and he hit me one morning
with I don't want to deal with you.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I was a mess. My ex husband messaged me.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Was like seven o'clock in the morning, and I was
still very fresh in my fight or flight and I
felt like I had to fight back. And I was
crying and I was freaking out, and I was panicking
and I couldn't regulate myself.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
So I was looking for him to regulate me.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And he woke up to me crying, and he was
sitting in bed and I was pacing the bedroom and
I was freaking out and he hit me with I
don't want to deal with you right now, and of
course I got mad, and the moment I was super
emotion I was like, fuck you, get out all those
kinds of things. It just happened again the next thing. Yeah,
that conversation made me realize that I was a mess.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I was going to ask you if that was where
that was going. Yeah, because at the moment, I'm sure
that that really hurt you. But in the long run,
that person, even though they were doing something ugly to
you to serve themselves, still the truth. They did you
a big favor by being honest. Yeah. Damn well, that
triggered my answer because I didn't have one. Okay, when
I was in my this is when my best friend

(29:33):
Chris was still alive. I had to have been in
my early twenties. We've talked about this conversation. I don't
know if we've talked about on the podcast, but I
know that you and I have talked about it privately.
I had somebody look me in my face and tell me, congratulations,
you have successfully hurt another human being and I hope
you're happy. And at the time I wasn't trying to

(29:54):
be hurtful and realizing that like that was the first
time that any buddy had ever called me and my
shit in the moment, and it made me step back
and like, I relive that a lot, and it changed
the way that I deal with people. And it was
one of those moments where somebody was honestly hurt by
my actions, but they did me the greatest gift they
could have given me was that line. And I'll never

(30:16):
forget it. You know, it's been fucking almost thirty years
at this point since that was said to me, and
it's still very fresh. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
In it the impact that we have on others.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, us and like I'm sure at the time like
that was a smart, snarky thing and same with yours,
Like it was a fuck you moment, it really was,
But that moment changed both of us. Yeah, you never
know the impact you're going to have on another human being.
It's fucking insane.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
What would you like to pay attention to that you
don't currently pay attention to?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
And why how do I know what I want to
pay attention to if I don't pay attention to it? Am?
I am? I aware of it?

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Well?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, and I'm like slacking on it.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
It's probably one of like you could look at like
AI for example. We've talked about that a lot over
the last three episodes. There's a whole lot of things
going on with the AI that most people just stick
their head in the sand. Like you're aware of it,
you know what's going on, but you don't really fucking
know what's going on. So it's one of those things
that you could pay a whole lot more attention to.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
I pay a lot of attention to AI.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Well, it was an example. I'm not saying that you don't.
Actually I can also get into like the organic food
market and soil. Like there's a whole lot of things
that people are aware of, like GMOs. People know what
a GMO is, but they don't know what GMO means,
and they don't understand what's going on with their food.
It's one of those things that is common knowledge, but
it's very misunderstood and it's not true knowledge. So it'd

(31:33):
be something like that, something that you're aware of that
you know is not a good thing, or is a
good thing that you should be paying more attention to
that you don't. Do you have an answer mine is
actually the soil thing. Yeah, I watched that Kiss The
Kiss the Soil, or whatever the fuck it was. It
was a documentary and there was a couple of scientists
on there that talk about pulling carbon out of the

(31:55):
air and into the ground, and they talked about how
tilling the soil is so bad for the earth, and
there was a whole lot of shit in there that
I had known, but I didn't know to the extent
that they know, and like it opened up a whole
lot of shit for me. That was part of the
reason that I wanted to do the food forest that
we have here, because even though we're not a farm

(32:15):
and we are only one acre, you know, it's like
thirty three point seven six acres of land here. If
we are able to create an environment here that helps
pull shit out of the air and it's just this
little lot of land, we are still doing something that
we weren't doing before. Yeah, that was a very impactful thing,
and I've started looking into like that. That was it

(32:36):
for me. I don't need to get into all of that,
but I've started doing a whole lot of research and
a whole lot of other shit that I would have
never looked into because of that documentary, So what about you?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
It's called regenerative farming is one of the things. Somebody
in the chad just said that, but that's actually something
that they talked about heavily in that documentary. What is
your definition of luck? I don't believe in luck.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I don't believe in luck either, but just to answer
the question because some people do. I actually had this
conversation in the comments of your video today because somebody
commented and said something along the lines of your life
is your wife is such a lucky lady? And then
I heart reacted it right because yes, also I commented,

(33:22):
I was like, I work my ass off to keep
my husband. Luck was our path crossing and that's where
the luck ended.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I don't believe that was luck. Do I believe it's
the universe?

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Right? I know? I agree with that. That's just me
giving an answer for the people who do believe in luck.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
I'm going to challenge that though, because that also doesn't work.
Why because it wouldn't have mattered if we would have
crossed paths, if the timing wasn't there for us to
be able to continue to grow and do the things
that we're doing to be right for each other.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Right, No, I agree with that. Like our meeting is luck,
that was it.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
It's not, though. That was an opportunity that we saw
the potential and made something out of it. Wasn't luck.
That was just an opportunity. People meet people all the time, right,
you can't.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Right, That's what I mean, though, Like meeting somebody out
of the eight billion people in the world, the chances
of meeting somebody.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I don't think it's luck. Okay, I understand you're like,
I do totally understand where you're going with that. But
I can't say that I don't believe in luck and
then agree with your point because it would make me
a hypocrite.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I don't believe in luck.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Okay, that's me trying to put it in a way
for other people to understand. Like if I had to
describe what luck was, that would be it. But I
don't believe in luck. I do believe that everything happens
for a reason, there's no coincidences.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Synchronicity is huge for me. Yeah, yeah, I believe that.
I believe that the universe is going to do I
believe I'm real big in the manifestation two. But I believe.
I believe the universe is going to give you what
you need when when you are not going to fucking
destroy it.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
My husband and I have been having a lot of
conversation right and I have come to the realization, that's
so bad. Hmmm at it.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Oh you're not supposed to be back. Your dad's gonna
be so upset.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Oh everybody can see you. Your dad's coming. No, this
is the one I meant, so okay. I whistled to

(35:40):
have her come back here with me, and she got
over excited and came over the thing and I was like, no,
don't do that. And she was over here and I
was like, your dad's gonna get so mad at you.
And I was like, oh, everyone can see you, hi baby.
I was like, and you close the door. And I
was like, oh, no, he's coming. You gotta go back.
And I was like go and she put she jumped up,
and I was like, no.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
That's not what I meant.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I just wanted to say the difference between Part one
Chris and Part three Chris is noticeable. I hope that
you all are doing better. We are we if we
were not live the night that we recorded part one.
That first moment where I started to cry, we would
have just stopped. I had a can I have one
of those whatever those are on the top of that?
Is that what that is? I don't want a big piece.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I don't want to eat this piece. Okay, okay, it's
too big of a chunk.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Was I had a really rough morning, Like I had
a really good morning. Morning started off incredible. We talked
about this a little bit. The song gonna cut anyway. So,
but there's something that came up. And that thing that
came up, I went down a rabbit hole of me
failing as a husband. Yeah, and it just fucked up
my entire mental state. And it's been days. I haven't
recovered from it yet. Ready for this, Yes, how could

(36:49):
you be more authentically you? This is an honest ask
question by singing around you more when you think about that,
you truly live as your authentic self means that you
live completely free of judgment and shame. There's nothing that
anybody can do that can make you feel less than

(37:11):
about yourself. That would be a fucking superpower. I think
there are so few people on the planet that could
actually do that. All of the phrases like dance like
no one's watching, like you just said I'd like to
sing around you more like all of that, you would
have to let go of everything. My answer would be,
we would have to let go of everything. That's a

(37:32):
deep question. That's not you know when you think about it,
Like people can give surface level answers to hide like
you were vulnerable with yours because everybody knows that you're
uncomfortable singing, and that was an honest answer. But a
lot of people are going to skirt that and not
be honest about where they feel the shame and judgment
and blame.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
The reality of it is, though, is that other people's
attention is not the right word. Intention is not right word.
Other people's perception of you and your fear of them
judging you is what holds you back from being authentically you.
It's fucking crazy that we allow the opinion of other
people to dictate our happiness. We should stick this to

(38:10):
our mirror in the bathroom as a reminder. Okay, that's
not going back in the deck. If you had a twin,
what is the most important bit of advice you could
give them?

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I had a twin.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yep, this is a bullshit question. This is a way
to make you introspective about yourself.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
But my twins not myself.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Right, Well, that's the way that people view it because
you have a mirror image of you walking around, So
it would be the most important thing that you would
tell the mirror image of you. It's a reflective comment.
This is psychological bullshit, right.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
But your twin's only a mirror image version of you physically, yeah,
physically an appearance. So I'd be like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Most people don't think about that though.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
That dress doesn't make your ass look fact, go get changed.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
That's funny. I got nothing on that one, all right,
all right? If you could turn back the clock on
one day this year and do it differently, what day
would it be? And why?

Speaker 3 (39:09):
None of them?

Speaker 1 (39:09):
I have one? Yeah, yep, I would jump off that waterfall.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I truly believe that I would not have had the
ability to get to that tire. But I do believe
that had I got to that tire and was able
to use the rope, I could have climbed up there
and jumped off that fucking rock, and that current was
strong enough that it could have pulled me back. I
didn't try. And that's what gets me because I know
that the waterfall that we did on the first Coasta

(39:38):
Rica trip, just swimming across that like it almost took
me under. Yeah, and it wasn't even a super bad current.
That other waterfall was much much worse. But I couldn't
kick my leg.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
It eats at me really still, I'm gonna be honest,
I would be worried about you making that climb because
there were points where I was like, I don't think
I can get my leg that high.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Getting my leg up there wouldn't have been the problem.
It would have been the strength to get it to
like push that would have been the problem. Because I
can pull my kneed to my chest like this doesn't
bother my back, but if I had to put my
legs straight out in front of me, it would bother me.
I honestly think the water would have been the issue,
just being able to swim to that thing. It's crazy

(40:18):
what eats at us? Yeah, because you got to do
something then, like we're supposed to be doing this live
thing together. And even though there was like a cool
moment where I got to like whoop it, hoot and
holler and like cheer you want to, I couldn't do
that with you because of a fucking bullshit ass injury.
And again I didn't try. And I think that had
I tried and not been able to swim to that thing,
I would have been okay. I don't think that it

(40:38):
would eat me because at least got in the water
and fucking attempted to swim over there. I didn't even
try because I let my my sciatic and my disc
issues prevent me from even attempting it. What if you
got hurt more, Well, then that's a whole other aspect
of it. And that's another another perspective. The problem is
is that's not a part of my what if it
needs to be? What is something that people value that

(41:00):
you no longer value? That's a good question.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
What is something that people value that I no longer value?

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Sex work is a glamorized thing.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
That's a very random statement. Is that something that used
to believe in?

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Uh? Yeah, I was brainwashed. I used to think that
it was a very empowering, like, if you're going to
be a boss bitch, this is the ultimate thing.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, how did I not know that?

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I could have sworn We've discussed that maybe I just
didn't hold on to it.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Maybe I was gonna say expensive cars, yeah, but then
I had all less thought And this is not my
original thought. It's just popped in my head. So I'm
stealing this from somebody else. But it is something to
make you all think, because if you haven't heard it yet,
you need to. Expensive cars are not expensive because they're
worth it. They're expensive because they're hard to obtain. And

(41:50):
there is a difference between having something that is worth
it and having something that is hard to obtain. Having
something that is hard to obtain does not make it valuable.
It just means that most people aren't willing to do
the work to have it. I've had I've had the
dream car, and I got rid of it within a year.
It was less than a year. It was like six months.
I had the car for less than the less than
a year it was.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I think it was less than six months, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
It might have been, but it was one of those
things that every morning that I got in that car,
I felt like a fucking baller driving around and it
felt really good. But every month when it came time
to pay that car payment, like I was just throwing
money down the drain, and and like there was a
very real like what the fuck am I doing? Why
am I doing this? Jenna said, it's nothing more than
a symbol to some people. It is to some people.
It really is a symbol of of like, look what

(42:34):
I've got, Like, look what my social status. Social status
doesn't mean shit anymore to me. The car, having that
car was really nice. I actually really loved the car.
I just couldn't justify the cost of the car.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna Adam Sandler it out here.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what that means.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
He showed up. I think it was like the Grammys
or something in like basketball shorts and the zippedup puddy
comfortable yeah, baseball hat.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Fuck him, dude. Yeah, it's funny that you went to that.
I spent six or seven hundred dollars on clothes earlier
this year, at the beginning of the year, I bought
all those Dickson shirts. I bought new jeans, I bought
those boots. It was probably more than that hat. Those
those boots and that had a loan were over a grand. Yeah.
I spent a lot of money trying to redo what
I wanted to look like while we were out doing

(43:20):
things because I wanted to show up for you and
I I can't imagine putting on any of that shit
now like after ceremony, Like my style and my comfort
has changed so much to that. Like I'm wearing fucking
hairm pants. Guys, I have a diaper crotch right now.
I like it, so do I for me? And there,
you could absolutely get in these pants with me. Our
thighs wouldn't fit together, Yeah they would, Yeah, they would.

(43:43):
We should try it. We should buy another pair because
we're gonna ruin them. Yes, I'm willing to bet we
could both fit in a pair.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Oh my gosh. You know we should use that for
that TikTok where they're like, you guys can't do everything together?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, yeah we should. If we're going to do that,
we should actually buy a pair of that. I know
for a fact we can fit in that way, We're
not like struggling. I don't want people to see us fail, right,
especially if we do that. But like my comfort level,
that matters more to me than what you think I

(44:15):
should look like. And like when we take pictures of
us and we're out doing things together and I'm dressed comfortable,
and I look comfortable. That feels better to me. Don't
get me wrong. We look hot as fuck in the desert. Yeah,
but that's a photo shoot that's very different than how
we walk around and live our lives and when people
see us living on our authentic selves looking like we
look on the podcast, because that is how you dress
every day. This is how I dress every day. Yeah,

(44:38):
this is who we are. I'm getting to the point
where like, as soon as that thing on the bottom
of my foot heels from Costa Rica, I'm gonna start
barefooting it. I'm a dirty foot this long.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Oh I love barefoot in it or my crocs out
this morning for like five minutes and I was like,
what the fuck am I doing?

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (44:53):
I think they're still out there.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
They are, Yep, they are yep.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
They are a son out there. They were out there
yesterday in the wheelbarrow.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yop. I'd be barefoot in it. I'm excited that you're
joining me with those Yeah. Yeah, I do a lot
of earthing together at a grounding. Why are you looking
at me like that?

Speaker 1 (45:19):
My original look was because I was thinking about fucking outside,
so that was dirty. But then I started. Then I
really started thinking about how our life trajectory has gone
over the last seven months of our life. Yeah, eight months,
however long it's been, Like there has been such a
huge shift in who we are, and like we have
gotten so much closer because of it.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
It's just it's joy.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
It's worth living for.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
You're relying on your deathbed. Fuck, what three things would
you want to achieved in life? And do you do
things each week that will get you there?

Speaker 3 (45:53):
I want to be a good wife, a good mother,
and a good woman.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
You already are, so you have that. I don't have
a been wishless anymore. No, for the same reason that
you just listened off those three things. I hear enough
from you that I'm a good man, and I hear
that in hard times, not just because things are good. Yeah,

(46:18):
and all the things that I want to accomplished, Like,
I'm so happy with where we are in life that
like the only thing that I want to do now
that we're not doing all the time is travel. Yeah,
and we'll get there, So, like that's not one of
those things that we are working towards that every day everything,
a single time we sit down and try to do
an episode or every time we get a new follower,
like we are doing the things try to get us

(46:39):
to that point. So do you do enough to keep learning?

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Oh? Yeah, same, Yes, it's.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
A dumb question.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I learned something every day constantly.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Okay, this is a good question. This is way better
than the last one.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
All right.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Is there something you associate with a key moment of
hardship in your life?

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Rick and Mortar?

Speaker 3 (47:00):
And it is my massive mental breakdown in my early
to mid twenties after leaving my first husband and I
was a single mom of two under two. I could
hear it playing in the background as I screamed.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
I have been I have been a fan of Jelly
Role since he was making music with Haystack. Most people
don't even know that is like it's been close to
twenty years. There was a time, a span about ten
years of his music that was all I listened to.
And that was during like the hardest parts of my life.

(47:36):
And then I have other things where from like being
homeless and shit that like I will trigger that memories
of things like that for me, but like those are
not really prevalent things. So but there are definitely things
that triggered those moments of damn, I made it through that. Yeah,
and that's a much better thought than I remember when.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Yeah, right, that's true.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
It's a survival thought. What is one thing you regret
not saying to somebody? And why didn't you say it?
Some of these questions really will like they need a
whole lot of time to work through and figure out
the answer to that. Luckily all of the dead silence
gets cut, So it's true.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Oh man, So I was like, I'm laughing because this
makes me look like a piece of shit.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
I was fresh out of high school.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
This was like maybe ten or fifteen days after I graduated.
I started working at a restaurant and there was a
dude there who was very interested in me, and I
was not interested in him. And I don't know what
I told myself to rationalize it, but we got into

(48:48):
a relationship and like from the get go, I did
not want to be with this guy, and I ended
up breaking his heart.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
I just should have told I wasn't interested.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Yeah, what do you think that is?

Speaker 3 (49:04):
People pleasing? Feeling like what I want doesn't matter because
what people around me want influences my environment more than
I do.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
And that's so far from the truth, right. I have
a lot of things that I regret not saying to people,
But it's always been not said to maintain a status
quo or to keep the peace. There are things still
in our day to day life that I want to
get involved in because I know that me getting involved
in it would disrupt a whole lot of things. But

(49:35):
I also know the backlash that would come in our
life because of it. So it's easier for me to
just bow out and like let it go the way
that it needs to go. But I regret those things too,
because I I if just mutual combat would just be
a thing, like if we it doesn't even have to
be mutual, Like if we could catch one assault charge
a month and not go to prison, I would just
use that same assault charge every month on the same

(49:57):
person until they fucking stopped right or stopped breathing. I
may have changed it from assault to murder.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
That's definitely changed things.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, what for you is a life well lived? And
how do you make the most of this that. Let's
just do the first question. What for you is a
life well lived?

Speaker 3 (50:19):
A life with peace, a life with comfort of some
Thailand taking the kids to the zoo.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
I think my answer to that is a life of service,
to be in service, to to serve your person, to
serve your family, to bring an enrichment to the lives
of those that you care about. Is my answer to that.
That's a good answer I'm gonna have. I may have
a fucked up answer for this one. But why do

(50:51):
you exist?

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Why do I exist?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Because I have purpose?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Is there the interview answer? Okay, my mine's gonna be long,
and it's gonna sound crazy to some people, but those
who know will not think I'm crazy. Okay, I exist
because before I existed in this physical shape, I realized
that there was something in this life that I was

(51:17):
not able to get in my existence before.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
I was gonna go down that path, but I didn't
want to.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I love that, and I found the person that I
knew was going to shape me and to the person
that I needed to be to be where I am.
And I don't care if that's cheesy. I don't believe
in luck, and I don't believe that we are just
randomly thrown into this existence. I do believe that our
vibrational patterns are a choice. I do believe that reincarnation exists.

(51:46):
Even though I believe in heaven, I believe that in
all the span of time, which could be infinite, we
have no fucking idea how long our our time space
continuum thing actually is. At some point, you're gonna get
bored there, and you have all of these universes to
choose from to go and experience things. Your soul can't fuck.

(52:08):
It can't do drugs, it can't become an alcoholic, it
can't play poker, can't be a parent, It can't be
a parent, it can't do all the things that we
choose to do in life to experience something, and it
gives us value in the afterlife. Yeah, and I'm gonna
say something even crazier now, I.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Don't think any of that was crazy. I agree with
all of it.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
I believe this is this is you. This might be
this might be a narcissistic thought. Okay, oh man, this
might be bad. I believe that you're here younger than
I am because you got bored without me in the
afterlife and had to confine me our life until we
got each other. The way that we have each other

(52:48):
was not complete. There was a whole lot of missing
a whole lot of ugly, a whole lot of broken,
a whole lot of hurting, you know what I mean. Like,
and all that shit stopped. And even though we have
disruptions and we have hard times, it's not comparable to
everything that we've gone through.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
I'm going to hit you with something heavier than that.
What if I saw everything you were going through and
decided that you needed me here more than I wanted
to be.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
There with our age gap. I believe that because you
would have seen the ugliest of all of.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
It, I would have seen the worst of it, the
build up to everything that happened in the fallout. That's
fucking crazy to think about. Yeah, I wasn't ready for
that synchronicity.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
People are gonna make They're fucking nuts. That's okay, It
is okay, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
We're happy.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yep. If there was one singular idea that had the
most profound impact on your life, what would it be?
And what's the first thing that comes So it's got
to be the first thing that comes to mind. If
there was one singular idea that had the most profound
impact on your life, what would it be?

Speaker 3 (53:55):
It might not have been Marcus Aurelia who said it
something about free will. I could have sworn it was
in this book, but I don't see it. But I
found something else that I very much agree with. He said,
the example of a family governed in a fatherly manner,
and the idea of living comfortably to nature, to look
carefully after the interest of friends, and to tolerate ignorant
people who form opinions without consideration. That last one's hard

(54:20):
for me. And that is something that I think about often.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
And what degree elaborate on? What makes you think about
that often?

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I used to have zero tolerance, used to be a
very combative person.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
So if we disagreed, I will sit here and argue
with you, and I will never have to talk to
you again.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I would get mad.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
I would want to prove my point, prove that I'm right,
whatever the case may be. And I burned a lot
of bridges, and I hurt a lot of people in
doing that.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
I want to do that again.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Yeap, it's crazy that people think that they're going to
be happy by being right. Yeah, it's it's your ego, right,
all right. So my answer to that question, if there
was one singular idea that had the most profound impact
on your life. What would it be? I honestly wasn't
thinking about it the entire time, and I don't really
have an answer.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Pull something from the courage to be disliked.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I can pull a lot from that book. I could
say something like, you weren't actually angry enough to yell,
you wanted to yell, and you use your anger as
an excuse. I can talk about how there's a difference
between being alone and being lonely. Yes, and if you
were the only person that ever existed and there was
no other people there, you would have no idea that
you were lonely. You would just be the only thing existing.

(55:40):
That was such a profound book, such a profound book
et Leering Psychology blew my fucking mind, because before I
read that book, I didn't know Adler was a thing.
I knew about Young and I knew about Freud, but
that was, in my opinion, like the godfathers of psychology,
and like they both had theories and they both made
sense to me, and like I lean more Young than Freud.

(56:01):
The mommy issues with Freud was too much for me,
and the shadow work with Young and all the psychedelics
I've done made a whole lot of fucking sense to me.
But Adler like flock man, all right, can't read this one.
How many times have you properly been in love? Oh man,

(56:22):
I'm gonna say three? Yeah, yep, And all three of
them looked very different. I believe our love ages. Yeah,
like it matures. How about that it matures is a
better way to word that, because you have the puppy
love that everybody experiences as a teenager and into your
early twenties.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Oh, I really got I think about my past relationships now.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Casey in the chat said, the concept of three loves
in life refers to the idea that people experience three
distinct types of loves throughout their lives, each serving a
different purpose and teaching different lessons. These are often described
as first love, intense and hard love, or unconditional and
grounded love. I didn't know that was the thing mine.
Mine came to three because of the different phases of

(57:03):
my life. I can say definitively that none of them
felt the same. Yeah, that all three of those loves
looked very fucking different. And I actually regret one of them, yeah,
like like completely regret it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Yeah, I would also say three times.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Other times it was like convenience for feeding my own ego.
I don't want to be alone, and that was just
the next thing to say.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
So, are you saying that you've only told three people
in your life that you love them?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Noka, only three times where I've actually.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
True love like you? Yeah? Okay?

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
What is one thing that you would do if you
weren't afraid at all? We answered that last night. Wow,
what is one mistake that you have made that you
have been scared to address or reconcile?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I would have to put that into that.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
I'm gonna I don't. I don't. I actually don't think
this is a good question because we've talked a lot
about these already over the last two episodes of this.
But I'm going to change the question, and I'm going
to challenge the question. If you made a mistake and
you are scared to address it, why and is it
worth it to reconcile? I've made a lot of Okay.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Okay, I'm also readjusting that I.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Have made a lot of mistakes in life, right. There
have been a lot of times where I have done
really fucked up things to people, and I have apologized
or I have tried to make amends, and sometimes those
apologies or trying to make amends have actually ended in
a physical altercation where I have tried to make amends. Right, So,
you don't need to make amends all the time. Sometimes

(58:46):
it's best to let sleeping dogs lie, but to reconcile.
If something happened or I did something that was fucked
up to somebody, and I made the choice, knowing what
I was doing to do it, why would I want
to reconcile those things. It's a good question, right, Like
it's no secret that I was a cheater in a
past life. I would not try to reconcile that because

(59:07):
while I was doing what I was doing, I didn't
feel guilty about it, or I wouldn't have been doing
the shit. Why would I want to reconcile a situation
like that. That situation is long done, it's over with.
There's no guilt there, right, So why would I put
myself in a position to do that. I'm not doing
it for me, I'm doing it for them, and there's
no guarantee that that's going to give them what they need.
Because in the times where I've tried to correct things,

(59:29):
it's ended up in physical altercations. Sometimes it's best to
just let things go and grow past it.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
The human experience is a lot.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Yeah it really is. Yeah, it really is. And that
speaks to our mindset over the course of our life.
I think that everybody, just like the Three Loved Things.
I think that everybody goes through certain growth phases in
their life, where like, for example, there are times where
all of us feel we need to be right right,
and there's times where we all are vindictive and we
want to hurt those who hurt us because it feels good,

(01:00:00):
because we want them to hurt the way that we're hurting.
And then we get to the point where we realize
that and doing that, we are hurting ourselves too, and
we are prolonging the discomfort or the pain that we're
feeling because we are trying to seek revenge because somebody
else hurt us instead of healing right. And there's different
phases that we all go through, and I think that
I think that that impacts the way that everyone lives

(01:00:23):
their life. And eventually, I don't believe that anyone ever
obtains enlightenment. I truly don't. I believe I believe that's
the goal. I think that we all want to be
enlightened or we want to have peace, and I think
that we can have times of peace in our life.
But even in times of great peace, eventually something's going
to come up that we have not had to come
over yet, like an obstacle, and it's going to disrupt

(01:00:45):
our pond. And until that pond ripple goes back to
normal water, we have to deal with the consequences of
that thing. And that's that's part of growth. But I
think that knowing that is what we believe enlightenment. It
looks like because this too shall pass as fucking cliche
as that sounds, this is not the rest of our life.

(01:01:08):
This is a year. It's been six months. It could
be a bad afternoon. It could be we just didn't
get along today.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
I agree with all of that. That was very well put, Babe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Thank you, thank you, You're welcome. I like it when
you think I'm smart. Yeah, yeah, it does it for
me like I want to be.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I feel like a kid who got a gold star,
Like I want to stick it on the fridge so
that everybody can see that, Like you are proud of
me today, I love you. I don't want to cry.
I love you too. Tell a specific story of someone
in your life who helped make you into the person
you are today. What did they do? This is from

(01:01:53):
Terry Crews. His someone did not look like someone It
took me a minute to decipher that. Yeah, it could
be that. I have tears in my eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Read it one more time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Please tell you a specific story of someone in your
life who helped make you into the person you are today.
What did they do?

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Like in the story or to make me who I am?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
However, you want to tell your story, babe, yours?

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Oh? I need to think about that. Do you have one?

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I do?

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Okay, you go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
My mom dated a guy name when I was younger.
My mom had a lot of men in her life
that were not her husband throughout the course of my childhood.
It was a roofer. He was a construction worker. He
was six foot four and maybe one hundred and eighty pounds.
Like he was not a very large stature man, but
he was very tall in stature. He was an alcoholic,
but he loved I can remember them fighting, and all

(01:02:37):
of the fights that they had were never aggressive on
his part. It was always about his heartbreaking what she
was doing to him, which is such a specific thing
to remember. Yeah, right, But I remember getting in trouble.
I remember the apartment complex that we lived in, and
I remember every time something happened, she would always go
to him to get him to punish, and the punishment
was conversations. It was it was a calm, loving gentle,

(01:03:01):
I want to understand what you're going through right now,
Like that man gave me a side of what a
man is supposed to look like that I never understood before.
I had never seen that type of compassion or that
type of want to understand, and that in alone is
such a fucking beautiful thing for somebody to have.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Mine's kind of similar I was, I want to say,
first grade, and my teacher's name, her name was Missus Kern,
and she was already an older woman, and she had
this like crazy curly hair, and she reminded me of
a grandma. My parents separated when I was five, and

(01:03:41):
a lot of tumultuous things happened after my dad left.
By the time I was in first grade, I was
having a really hard time processing my emotions and you know,
dealing with home life, dealing with missing my dad and
dealing with a social life in school. And there was
one rainy day that I was just having a heart time.
I couldn't remember if I had gotten yelled at that

(01:04:02):
morning before I got out of the car. That was
a thing that I remember happening pretty regularly. And I
got to the classroom, I just kept crying, and she
pulled me aside and she was like, what's the matter,
what's going on? And all I could get out was
that I missed my dad. And she pulled me to
the back of the classroom where it was a little
bit darker than the last rest of the room, and

(01:04:24):
she gave me some paper and crayons and pencils, and
she was like, why don't you draw some pictures and
write some letters to your dad, and you don't have
to worry about your schoolwork today. That was one of
the first times I felt truly seen as a child.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
It's crazy that you go that we both got that
from somebody that wasn't our parent. So we've been going
through these questions. We're like an hour and forty five
minutes in before edits. This will probably end up being
like an hour long episode because we had lunch and
there's been a lot of crying and cuts, so we're
gonna wrap up this episode. Guys, if you were watching
this and you enjoy this, make sure that you tune
in for next week because next week we'll be doing
part two of the Fun Cast, Part three, so to

(01:04:59):
be technically the Funcast Part four, and it'll be the
last that we do because we're almost out of cards. Yes,
so if you've enjoyed this, make sure you turn in
next week. As always, remember you were the author of
your own life, so grab a pen and we will
see you on the next one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Bye, guys.
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