Singles Night (Guests: Pastor Kenneth Leonard & Tasha Cobbs Leonard)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sex. We gotta talk about sex, are y'all? I'm not.
I'm not how y'all doing.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
The reason why we curate spaces like this is to
be able to gain some intention, to be able to
gain some godly perspective on what it is we're looking for, so.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
We can weed out carrier.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
I think ultimately what I hear is a fear of
rejection male and female. We have to deal with the
root of that because in this it's a trial and error.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh that conversation didn't work out, but it ain't that.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Wrong with me. So you don't meet guys at all.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
See, I have to get out more. I think my
husband might be a door dash or uber driver because
that's how I be in the house. So I need
to get out more, but mostly at church.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Do y'all feel that it's inappropriate to be approached at church?
How many y'all would love for a man to walk
up here and say, it's something about your spirit that
are tracking?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Y'all want somebody come up to you doing a CHURCHI lingo, Oh,
they're saying, no, we was about to go somewhere else
with this.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Let me talk to my daughters.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I did tell my wife return me on with sharpers.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
He does say that, Churchy, how do.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
You feel about a woman approaching you?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
What did it come from? Like the rule that is
a no for women?

Speaker 6 (01:12):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
No, I think that's just some old school stuff. I
believe men should pursue and not persuade, and a woman
should present and not pursue. A lot of women typically
want to be married. But let me ask y'all, jeorde,
do you want to be married?

Speaker 7 (01:24):
I'm somebody's wife.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I want to ask you fellas, do y'all desire marriage?

Speaker 8 (01:30):
I prefer to be more financially stable?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Is that a legitimate answer for y'all? Why not?

Speaker 6 (01:36):
It's the point is to go on the journey. Then
why not do it together and then enjoy the money
when we get there.

Speaker 9 (01:41):
I don't really want you to come to me and
say I'm trying to get financially stayed.

Speaker 7 (01:47):
You don't have to be a millionaire, but be somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
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Speaker 3 (02:51):
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Speaker 1 (02:54):
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Speaker 2 (03:05):
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(03:25):
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here tonight to be able to be a part of
this conversation. So can everybody stand down your feet and
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Speaker 1 (03:49):
How y'all doing?

Speaker 6 (03:55):
Man?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
This is about I need to let y'all sit beside him.
How you feeling, bro.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'm feeling amazing. Yeah, you know what. I love the
name of this church. You know, when I was typing
on Instagram and I was telling people to tune in,
I was like typing the Purpose Place. You know, anytime
you drive up in this parking lot, you should feel
like you're walking into your purpose, if you're going into
a place where God is going to meet you. And
so as I was thinking about that, I was like, man,

(04:23):
I love that name. Where'd that name come from? I
know they ain't got nothing to do with the cost.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
God, God.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
The purpose Place. I mean that blesses my whole entire spirit.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
The Purpose Place, you know, Honestly, one of the things
that we realized early in our marriage is that a
portion of our assignment is to push people into purpose
that was before we ever birth the church. Like when
we watch people who are on our team, people on
our staff, most of them, probably all of them, have
their own businesses.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
They run their own companies.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Thriving because we're like, hey, we don't want you stuck
here for ever.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
We want you to go and do what God has
called you to do.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
So that is honestly, I don't even know if a
lot of our partners know that. That's when we were
praying about a name for the church, and we kept saying,
do we get.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
To put church at the edge of it?

Speaker 4 (05:09):
But honestly, Holy Spirit did not release us. It's a
place like it's a place where you go to be
launched into your divine.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Purpose, which is amazing because you'll to clap on that
when that's powerful, which is amazing because most leaders they
raised people up to stay, you know, and you're saying
that we're raising people up to be launched into their
destiny and their purpose. And so I love the heart
that y'all have to push people into their divine purpose
and know that you guys are just destiny helpers along

(05:40):
the way. So I love that. I love that we're
supposed to be doing a whole panel.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
My bad, we do have a panel.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
We got it, do let's let's get all panelists up.
Y'all ready, they said, we really, let's get all panelists
up on the stage.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
To come and dall clap form as they come. That's
so churchy, clap form as they come. All right, we
got Brie and Joy. I ain't gonna start calling names.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
That's all right with me. That's all right. Oh, we
got we got the doctor up there. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
You want to grad says.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
To Hi, It's that's Bri. Y'all. Y'all can let them down, Yes, yes,
bring them on.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
That my god daughter.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
So what we're gonna do is just have everybody introduce themselves.
We'll start from the back and uh introduce yourself.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
Okay, Hello, my name is doctor Crystal Woodruff.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I guess you put the doctor.

Speaker 6 (06:41):
Yes you do, big earned doctor Crystal Woodroff. And I
am a biology teacher here in Spartburg, South Carolina.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
So go Spartburg High School.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Go vikings.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
O this single.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Hi you guys, I abree, I am just HERT thirty
in January thirty where you at? Okay, and I am
a mother of a beautiful baby girl named Journey.

Speaker 8 (07:13):
Hi.

Speaker 7 (07:14):
I'm Joy Watkins.

Speaker 9 (07:15):
And I am a psychiatric nurse in Anderson, South Carolina,
and hey.

Speaker 11 (07:21):
Where it is you can hello everyone. I'm Ricky Ricky
Neil and I'm a health character soult. But I'm enjoying
the work of from home.

Speaker 8 (07:30):
Life and I'm the purpose woice.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
What do you mean?

Speaker 10 (07:39):
I'm yeary late, I'm normally god On that back camera, the.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Guys are soul. They just be like, Hi, my name
is Yeah. You know what, We're gonna have a very
impromptu conversation. We're gonna chop it up and talk. I
want to ask you fellas, do y'all desire marriage? Absolutely?
Go ahead?

Speaker 8 (08:05):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I just know you said absolutely.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (08:12):
I was fortunate enough to be raised in a two
parent households. They did something that wasn't done for them,
So I want to be able to do that for
my children and continue the legacy.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Good. What about you, Ricky?

Speaker 11 (08:27):
Yes, yes, I mean I think there's nothing like having
someone that's gonna build you up, somebody you know that
you're gonna build up as well. And you know, I'm
very single. So I'm coming home to you know, my.

Speaker 10 (08:41):
Dog, myself, right, So it would be nice to.

Speaker 11 (08:45):
Come home to, you know, my partner, somebody who probably
got a hot meal ready.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Or you know, stuff like that. You know, just that
that partnership.

Speaker 8 (08:52):
Yeah, same opposite of him though, upping the single parent
household with my mom, so definitely got a different view
from where he got. So I would love to build
with someone and see where things go as long as
God said good.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
How many single people do we have an audience? Raise
your hand? Single people make some noise? There it is.
It's like a mating call. To me, it sounds like
it's a mating call or something. Lord, how many? How
many married people do we have an audience? Yeah? There
it is? There? It is so so the Lenners, I

(09:29):
want to ask y'all, do y'all feel hopeful for this
generation as they are dating? I know that y'are curating
this conversation for a purpose, and so do you feel
hopeful with the things that you're seeing and what you
see on social media and whatnot? Do you feel hopeful
that this generation is going to be intentional on valuing marriage?

(09:53):
I absolutely do.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I believe that, like God is a divine orchestrator. But
you use the word that I was actually going to
use in response, and I think that if we are intentional.
A lot of times we enter into relationship spaces kind
of hapassionately and we'll just see what happens. And if
you don't direct yourself and do it intentionally, then life

(10:15):
happens to you. And I think a lot of times
without having that intention will cause us to be able
to end up in some spaces that could cause us
some pain. And so for me, the reason why we
curate spaces like this is to be able to gain
some intention, to be able to gain some godly perspective
on what it is we're looking at looking for so
we can weed out the suckers and in order period period.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
So let me ask the women, because I find a
lot of women may not desire marriage. We think in
these spaces that a lot of women typically want to
be married. But let me ask y'all, Jory, do you
want to be married?

Speaker 9 (10:53):
I absolutely want to be I'm somebody's wife.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Why do you desire marriage? Joy?

Speaker 9 (11:02):
Well, I feel like I would love to build with someone.
So let me just put this disclosure out. I was
married before, and I was married for about fifteen sixteen
years and we grew apart, and that's okay. The second
time around, is going to last forever. But I do
desire someone to even grow more mature with to help
cultivate him as well as he cultivate me and the

(11:22):
gifts that God has put into me. So yes, I
desire to be someone's wife.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Joy, you said something important. You said we grew apart.
What does that mean?

Speaker 7 (11:31):
So I think we dated.

Speaker 9 (11:33):
We started dating when I turned seventeen, so that's a
very young age, and we got married when I was twenty.
So when I say grow apart, our lives just kind
of separated. I mean we just he wanted to do
his own thing and I couldn't continue to stay there
while he wanted to venture out and be his own
independent person, and I had to come. I had to
walk into my own independence because I was so dependent

(11:56):
on him.

Speaker 7 (11:56):
I didn't have to I didn't have to.

Speaker 9 (11:59):
Well, let me see, I grew up, but I didn't
have to want for a lot of things. So even
within that marriage, a lot of things was given to me.
So I also had to grow up in my marriage,
and so that could have been part of the reason
why we grew apart, because I was actually still growing.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
So that's good. We're going to unpack that later.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah, I like her taking ownership. I think that's a
place of maturity.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
A lot of.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Times you find and it probably came with growth that hey,
I'm gonna I'm gonna accept my role in this, that
my responsibility. And I think that's a big, big part
of being prepared for what God has for you next
is that you just got to be real about what
you did exactly.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Exactly, Crystal.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
You desire marriage, Yes, yes, I believe I was made
to be a partner. I was, Okay, So I'm raised
by parents have been together fifty plus years. Both sets
of my grandparents were together sixty plus years. I just

(13:01):
recently lost my grandmother, our last matriarch. She's she was
ninety four, and so I've always seen people be married,
work it out to the grave.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I didn't.

Speaker 6 (13:12):
I didn't know there was any other way, and so
I got a little naive when I went into my marriage.
I just thought everybody was taught to do it that way.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
Yeah, So I have.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
The tools, you just need the person to practice it on.
She just need the person to practice it on that. Saymen, Brianna,
do you want to be married?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
I do want to be married.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Why I think just seeing I would say my first
view of a healthy marriage wasn't until I was a
young adult. My mom didn't get married until I was
almost sweat twenty one. So just to be able to
grow with somebody and we disciple each other, like have
your own person.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Let me ask, y'all, I want anybody to jump in
on this, what is the most interesting way that you've
met someone? Wow? What is the most interesting way that
you met somebody? You know, there's always ways of sliding
somebody DMS, being on the dating site, meeting somebody in
the park, a lot at the church. Let me ask
y'alls the audience, do y'all feel that it's inappropriate to

(14:21):
be approach that church?

Speaker 8 (14:25):
No?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
How many y'all would love for a man to walk
up to you and say, it's something about your spirit
that attracted me to it was I saw you when
you were worshiping. I felt I saw it was something
about you. They can y'all wowt that.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I told.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
I'm asking very seriously, y'all want somebody come up to
you doing a church? I lingo, Oh, they saying, no, bro,
Because I was we was about to go somewhere else
with this.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Let me talk to my daughters. I did tell my
wife it turned me on. When she shall he.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Does say that about where you're doing so churchy, that
is just so church.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
That's what you told her. I told her it turned
you on with you was stouting.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
He literally if I started h'alling be like that, they
just took me out the spirits.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
This is the team we got mad. I didn't leave.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
How church is that? I love it?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I'm in the bottom. I'm gonna ask y'all. So was
the most interesting way or place then y'all met someone?
Do y'all meet people?

Speaker 10 (15:41):
Go ahead, I meet people.

Speaker 12 (15:45):
The most interesting place I met a young lady was
at a photo shoot. You were doing a little fashion
photo shoot and I just came in and introduced myself,
and I noticed her out of the bunch, So we
just sat down and chopped it up a little bit.

Speaker 10 (15:58):
That led to a date afterwards and Saturday.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Let me ask you, did you approach her? Did you
strike up the conversation? I did? How do you feel
about a woman approaching you?

Speaker 10 (16:08):
I have no problem with that at all.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
That was a message anyone of you all out?

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Where did that come from?

Speaker 8 (16:19):
Though?

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Where did it come from? Like the rule that is
a no for women, Like what, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I think that's just some old school stuff I believe.
But see, I'm a shooter, so I'm an approach to woman.
So it's like it just put me in my whole.
It just thrown me off. Of a woman walk up
to me and be like, hey, so what's up, I'd
be like, hey, this is gonna make it's gonna make
me do that. I'm like, hey, I don't know how
to respond like that. So just just so, my my

(16:47):
quote is men should pursue and not persuade, and a
woman should present and not pursue. Say it again, Yeah,
I said a man should pursue and not persuade, and
a woman shoul to present and not pursue. And what
that means is that you know how you meet a
guy and a guy tries to convince you that he's
the one, like, girl, just get me a shot. He's

(17:09):
doing too much if he If he approaches you and says, hey,
I think you're beautiful. My name is so and so,
so and so he asks for your phone number and
you're like, no, I'm not really interested. He like, see
that's why you ain't got no man now, and all
that he done, did too much right there. But and
for a woman, if a woman just sits there in
her glory, I didn't say, not speak to him. Smile
be inviting a lot of times the countess on your

(17:30):
face is none inviting. Where a man is like now,
she don't want to be bothered, but you do want
to be bothered. You want somebody to talk to you,
You want somebody to ask for your phone number. Your
face is advertising. So smile, be inviting. And so if
you smile, smile at him, look at him, give him
that long little stare and he goes. And then he
should walk up and be like, hey, how you doing,

(17:51):
you know, and be cordial. And so that's what I
believe in. That's my thoughts. But like my brother there,
he may like a woman to just walk okay the mask.
Would you like for a woman to just walk straight
up to you and ask you out?

Speaker 10 (18:05):
Well, yeah, that depends on where we're going, But.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
It depends on what.

Speaker 10 (18:12):
It depends on where.

Speaker 12 (18:13):
We're going, or she's you know, just trying to get
me to go drop some money on her, which is
unfortunately with some young ladies my age.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
And we're gonna we're gonna talk about that. Oh, we're
gonna talk about that part. Oh yeah, we're gonna talk
about it. Oh my, my, my mine. Here we go,
So we're gonna talk about that. Yeah, we're gonna talk
about that. Please don't let me forget that, because that's
a that's a serious situation. Women, Where have y'all met guys?

(18:38):
Are y'all approached? Are men shooting a shot these days? Sixteen? Yeah,
think you're sixteen?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
I just looked young. I guess I just looked like
you put your microphone.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
I guess I just look like a teen parent, look
like you're.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Supposed to be on teen mom. Yeah, and so uh
so you don't meet guys at all?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I see.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
I have to get out more. Okay, if I think
my husband might be a door dash or uber driver,
because that's how I be in the house. So I
need to get out more. But mostly at church that's boom.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
What about on social media? Church booth?

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Just get out, just get out of the house.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Let me see social media. Social media. I feel like
on social media.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
D ms don't really work. I feel like men.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
I guess my generation lead with sex.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
In your ms.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, they just the whole there is very sexual.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yes, what happened? What do they say in your DM?

Speaker 5 (19:46):
The sanitized version like excuse me, miss, I think you're beautiful,
but meet up with me tonight and not like it's
just very like you, like you, you want to meet up,
not to go out, but meet up to like Netflix
at chill like it's very like bold.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
It's all of that, isn't it. Yes, I've heard that before.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, I've been hearing it. It's great, especially during COVID.
You know they were as people as anyway, how have
you met guys? Joy?

Speaker 9 (20:21):
The last relationship I was in, I actually met someone
on set. He's seen me on the screen and so
he came with some other guys that were actually filming
our show and we.

Speaker 7 (20:31):
Met that way.

Speaker 9 (20:32):
So I guess that's probably the most interesting way that
I've met a guy. But here lately I'm about like Brie,
I just don't get out much and I should, but
I don't, and he might have to be at home
depot or lows of somewhere.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Are you open to social media for a guy? A
Sliger dem No, why not?

Speaker 9 (20:53):
Because I feel like that is just so it's unattractive
to me.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
If you're a man approached me, don't.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
But he don't see you in real life. He's just
see you on social media.

Speaker 9 (21:03):
But still, but I'm sure there are a lot of
people that know me on social media that can reach
out like I just I don't know. I'm an old
fashioned I guess so, Jordan.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
You said, guy right now, if he was following you
on social media, splitting your DM beginning to strike up
a conversation with you, not trying to Netflix and chill
like the dudes that being Rihanna dial. Wait, but I'm
talking about if they were just trying to have a
conversation with you, you were automatically disqualified.

Speaker 9 (21:31):
I won't automatically disqualify if they come approachable, just not
say hey, girl, you fine? Like you just because they
do that, like you find it and I'm like, I
know I'm pretty and not to be vain. I'm God's child,
so I'm beautiful. But if just again, if it's a
nice hey, how you doing, I could I'll start there.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
So you add a little wrinkling your brain, you're willing
now to be.

Speaker 7 (21:59):
Approached to them, I'll start.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
You'll start, amen, I will at least respond.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
I'm gonna be nice.

Speaker 9 (22:05):
I'm very cordial, so I'm gonna at least respond, But
then if I see your conversation start taking a left turn,
then I'm going to automatically just dismiss.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
You automatically, Crystal, what about you?

Speaker 6 (22:17):
Well, I'm a coach, so we usually it's at track meet,
someone's parent, another coach. He'll just come by and say,
you know, strike up a conversation. But that doesn't mean
it goes any much further because we leave the track meet.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
And you go home, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
So yeah, so how do you meet guys? Do you
meet guys at the grocery store? Do you meet guys elsewhere?

Speaker 6 (22:45):
Well, I don't really walk around and hey, how you doing?

Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know my name is But if someone's.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
I mean, I will talk to anyone who talks to me,
and I will conversate with anyone who wants to conversate
with me. But I do read the room, and I
read between the lines, and I asked a lot of questions.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
I love that that's your profession, So you're what was
your profession again?

Speaker 6 (23:12):
I'm a teacher, right right, But my doctorate is actually
in chiropractice. So I've been in the business world and
now I'm in the classroom.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
So and so you say you asked a lot of questions.
Have you let me ask you this? When's the last
time you've been on a date?

Speaker 6 (23:28):
D I took myself out last week.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Amen, you gotta get it.

Speaker 13 (23:40):
Chris, did you have a good time? Did you enjoy you?

Speaker 6 (23:52):
I actually did it, but no one doctor dances with me?

Speaker 1 (23:59):
But I had a blind So, Tasha, what recommendations you heard?
How people they said? You know, Joy started off saying
that she wasn't open to somebody sliding the DMS. She
had a change of heart through a conversation, a little
change of heart. You're a little hopeful, you know. You
hear Crystal talking about that, you know, on the track

(24:22):
meet she may meet coaches and meet people, but it's
nothing serious. What would you say? Advice to your sisters
on how to make themselves more approachable, more datable, or
just broaden their the horizon on allowing more people to
approach them. Where should they go?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
I think ultimately what I hear is a fear of
rejection from both sides, and I think when it comes
to dating, you have to redefine that that though it
may feel like rejection, and I know this is going deep,
because rejection lingers in a place deep within our souls.
Were any little thing that says, hey, I don't like
the way you look, I don't like your demeanor, I

(25:04):
don't like the way you talk, I don't like the
way this conversation felt, immediately goes back to that initial
place of rejection, and we spend.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Our lives trying to avoid that.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
And I think a lot of times, most both male
and female, we have to deal with that the root
of that because in this it's a trial and error.
You know, it's the Oh, that conversation didn't work out,
But I ain't never wrong with me, you know what I'm
saying that that date didn't work. Praise the Lord. I
didn't let that go any further. I'll be open to

(25:36):
the next one. I think that that intentionality about constantly
being open is something that you just have to you
gotta be intentional about. And then I think for people
like even Bree, who she looks sixteen but she's thirty.
So you've kind of been around in the game for
a little while, and I think we kind of get
stuck in seasons, but we have to move forward and realize, Okay,

(25:59):
it's twenty twenty five, communication happens in a different way,
you know, and I'm glad that you're open to it.
I'm glad I think you being open and even taking
that little wrinkling your brain tonight to say, Okay, maybe
I will do a little bit, do this a little
bit different. I think that's required of everybody, you know,
when it comes to communication in twenty twenty five, because

(26:20):
we used to talk and now they like, who you talking?

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Too old? Now? You know what kids say, They'll be like.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Somebody would come in my comments and be like, I
sent you a text yesterday.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
They think DMS is text? Like that's what I'm serious?
How many y'all like that? Like you think, oh I
sent you a text? Are you that text me?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
You don't have my number?

Speaker 3 (26:40):
No, that's a DM that's in my generation.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
You think you got it? That was just just my space,
you know. So I think we have to we got
to be open to different.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Forms of communication.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
And now me and PK will challenge this a little
bit because a lot of people will tell you in relationship,
you know, you got to talk, talk, talk talk. We
believe in talking, and we believe in conversation, but sometimes
in order to open that door to a free flow
in conversation without offense. We will text one another yeah,
and you know, you know what I say In the
next few hours, maybe we should have a conversation about

(27:17):
what just happened. Have an open mind about several different
means of conversation. It may be that that person that's
trying to approach you might have a little nerves and
it's easier for them to text it out and then
when they see that you're open.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Now, may I have your phone number?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I love that. How many y'all have a fear of rejection?
Be honest, this testimony time all right? You know that's real?
And so what TOAs was talking about reframing how we
look at rejections. Always look at rejection as redirection. You know,
everybody is not your person. So if I got to
shoot my shot at one hundred women to find my ones,

(27:59):
would you even care? After you find your wife, you're
gonna be like, yeah, you my wife. But the other
hundred that didn't react to me, I just think I
just got you because nobody else wanted me. You're not
gonna think like that. You're not gonna think about that.
You're gonna pray. You're gonna be happy, You're gonna be shouting,
you're gonna be testifying about how God did it. You
know what I'm saying. So, as you're on this road,
everybody's not your person. You gotta just accept that. And

(28:22):
the beautiful thing about it is treat dating as just
that dating data collection. You're getting experienced, getting a chance
to talk to somebody, get to experience, and what you'll
find out is that you'll be learning more about yourself.
You'll be learning about what you want you. You know what,
I really I thought I wanted a guy like this.
But like cause, you may have in your mind that

(28:44):
you want a god that's you know, make an X
amount of money, or some doctor, but then you find
out he has no time to even spend with you
or even have a date with you. You go, you
know what, all my life, I wanted a doctor, and
I don't think that is what God has in store
for me. And so you have to allow yourself to
experience people with no expectation. Now, that's the key, is

(29:05):
not to have expectations. Sometimes you sit down at a
table with somebody saying that's my husband, that's my husband. No,
that's somebody that was supposed to be your John the
Baptist before yo Jesus, whoa, it's the one that comes
before the one. But if you have a healthy prospect
or a healthy process dealing with them, then you'll be

(29:26):
able to learn what you need to learn from that
person and grow. And then you go okay now and
also be a student to yourself. If you find everybody
you're dating complains about the same thing about you, then say,
you know what, I may need to go through therapy
and get that fix. So if God does bless me
with my spouse, I don't run them off because of
this unhealed trauma I've been dragging along for the last

(29:50):
fifteen twenty years. And so just have a healthy perspective
about dating. It's okay, sit down, break bread with somebody,
go to Starbucks, have a drink with somebody at Starbucks,
and just your way their company and get a chance
to know them. Fellas, are you a shooter? Do you
shoot your shop? Absolutely? I see one.

Speaker 11 (30:10):
Yes, I've been rejected and I'm not ashamed to say that.
But like you just said, you know that just means
she wasn't the one for me. So I think, like
shoot a shoot, you know, like if you really want
to be in a relationship like and if you're really
like if you're you know, if you're really uh serious
about you know, pursuing your wife like there's there's really
no shame in it, you know. It's it's really about

(30:32):
showing up and being vulnerable. And a part of shooting
your shop is being vulnerable.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Let me ask you this, If you could describe yourself
in three words, what would it be?

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I'm adventurous, self aware, m h.

Speaker 11 (30:51):
And somebody said, fine.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
With me.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Come on, somebody, she said, she said word, she said,
I said, for.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
You shoot your shot.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
You're a little follow through on it got dark skinned
man blushing up it. Go ahead and say it again.
So what's your three words again? Adventures, self aware.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
And fine, go try and fine. So that's what you
gotta say, is fine? And so have you always been
self aware? No, it's something that you have to grow into. Right.

Speaker 11 (32:01):
So I'm a I'm a first generation college shooter, and
I think, you know, once I went away to school.
I'm originally from Lawrence, South Carolina, and I went to
school in Atlanta. And so once I you know, actually
went to Atlanta, that's when moved away and got away
from my family, That's when I.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Started to become in touch with myself. So it took me.

Speaker 11 (32:19):
Really just getting out out of my environment, away from
the people that I know and love, and had to
unlearn a lot of things so that I can be
in touch with myself.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, clap clop. Self awareness is important. Self awareness can
save you a lot of unnecessary arguments by just being like, hey,
I was wrong, and they'd be like, wow, that was
I was ready to I was ready to argue with you,
and you just you just took the weapons away by
just being self aware, and so I respect that. Three

(32:52):
words to describe yourself, Trey, I mean tie you trade tie.
He looked around like, Trey, I don't know where tree
praise He. I guess they had a new person TI.

Speaker 8 (33:05):
Three words observant, also self aware. But just came to
me over the recent year or so. And sometimes funny,
sometimes I'm not quiet, he said. Sometimes what do you
feel when you're dating? What you find the thing that well,

(33:28):
let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Do you date? Yes? Okay? And what do you feel
is the common Is there a common thing that women
complain about with you?

Speaker 8 (33:40):
Oh, it's it's kind of all the same. It's not
enough time, he says, not enough time. Yeah, it's a lot.
I have a lot going on. So yeah, the name
one of the humorous, just name one thing. I'm a
nosy too, So I real knows that have a ten

(34:02):
year old son?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah that I don't have all that.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
You have no time?

Speaker 8 (34:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
So what is that about? You're working or Yeah?

Speaker 8 (34:10):
It's either work or have a ten year old that
I raised by myself.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
So so how do you that's good? Shout out to
you father for yeah, shout out, shout out. So you
said that, So how do you feel like you're gonna
maybe if you knew the answer, you'll have someone? So
how do you plan the balance finding space for that woman?

(34:34):
M hmmm, Because you said you have a kid and
you're a single father and you work. How do you
feel how would you prioritize that woman coming into your
life so she doesn't feel like you're not being intentional
with her when she shows up whole therapy session, ain't

(34:57):
no watch this right, that's the hard one up.

Speaker 8 (35:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, So what y'all say? Women? How would you what
advice would you give them? Sacrifice?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Scheduling, schedule it, schedule it.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Do you have someone that can keep your kid?

Speaker 8 (35:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
And so so you don't have a problem, go ahead
and put the microphone close up.

Speaker 8 (35:28):
Sorry, on weekends, I'm usually like gigging or something like
I'm playing bass somewhere.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Okay, so you're you're doing so it's not like through
the week you said you're not ready. Do you feel
like you're ready? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (35:44):
But I prefer to be more financially stable.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
So all right, So he said something key. This is
this is the this is the number one go to
that men say, say that one more time. What did
you just say?

Speaker 8 (35:55):
I prefer to be more financially stable.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
He prefers to be more financially stable. I hear some
of y'all clapping, and some of y'all say, he don't
want nobody. So my question to you is this, is
that a legitimate answer for y'all? Why not?

Speaker 3 (36:13):
You're never gonna have enough money.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
You're never gonna have enough money. So would you allow
the women to unpack what they hear when they say that?
And then I want you to say what you mean
when you say that? So what else you said? He
does you never have enough money?

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Yeah? I mean I just feel like, if if the
point is to go on the journey, Okay, if the
point is to go on the journey, then why not
do it together and then enjoy the money when we
get there. What I've noticed is, you know, not everybody's

(36:51):
gonna be in the same financial place at the same time.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
You're just not.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
But sometimes your effort can match your pay, and my
support can match your your effort. I mean there's some
bartering that can go in there.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Some bartering. I love that. No, that's real. Joy. Does
this agree in your spirit? They don't seem like that
agree in your spirit? Do it? Joy, look like you're
gonna need some money to date? Joy, Joy said, I
don't need you to get it together. I need you
to have it together when you approaching me, Joey, am
I reading your spirit correctly.

Speaker 9 (37:26):
Wait a minute, Okay, right, so we're probably in different generations.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (37:33):
So for me, I am a forty seven year young woman.
So I don't really want you to come to me
and say I'm trying to get financially stable.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
Oh that's not what I meant.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (37:48):
So his reasoning may be totally different for whoever he
may approach or date.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
They can build.

Speaker 9 (37:56):
But for me, you don't have to be a millionaire,
but be somewhere.

Speaker 7 (38:05):
I don't want you to be trying.

Speaker 9 (38:06):
I mean, be somewhere when you approach me, and then
we can get there together. But just I'm trying to
get financially stable, that'll be an excuse for me.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Okay. So now I want you to unpack that. It's
very common. So so I want you to explain what
you mean by that.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
We love you, everybody loves me.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I'm gonna help you out. I'm gonna help you out first,
and I want you to jump in because I want
you to explain what that means. Well, a lot of
women don't understand is that we carry a huge burden
as men to be providers and protect us. Those two things,
providers and protect us. And the minute that a god
decides to date you or be serious about you, the

(38:51):
first thing your family's going to say is what does
he do? You know? And men, we you know it's
not right, but we define ourselves by our occupation, what
we do, and what our bank account says. I remember
when I got married. Before I got married, I was
touring shows across the country, doing national plays. I got
married and as soon as as soon as I said
I do, two months later, all my money just dried up,

(39:13):
and tours wasn't happening and all that. And I remember
as I began to start building again, I started sabotaging
my marriage, feeling like I didn't deserve to be married.
Why Because I started out saying, after I get a
certain amount of money in my bank account, I deserve
to take on a wife. You know, back in biblical
days you can have as many wives as you could afford.

(39:34):
And so what happened was I was like, okay, let
me get my money together, then I could afford to
take a wife. Then when my money started drying up,
I said, I don't think I deserved to be married,
and I started self sabotaging. And so the reality of
that is that's the real thing with men is to
be providers. And so my question to you is, unpack
what you mean when you said that.

Speaker 8 (40:01):
Kind of what you said. I do want to be
in a place where so I do I own my
own business, I work for myself, and I want to
start another one. So right now I am working towards
just starting that other one. And I don't. I don't
want to say I don't have the time to put
into a lot of dating, but I don't want to.
I guess spend what a lot of people require a

(40:24):
lot of money to take out?

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Why you feel like they require a lot of money?
But boy just said the same thing. Why you feel
like they require a lot of money to go out
to date?

Speaker 8 (40:32):
There's a lot of times you go out, you meet
someone and just I mean, they'll they'll ask how much
money you make, Like they'll look at the clothes you're
wearing and be like, you don't make an iPhone clothes?
I need the women here, but they'll ask how much
you make, or they'll look at you and say you
you don't look like you make X amount of money,
or because you don't have all the jury and stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
So do y'all do y'all believe that? Or y'all saying
what type of women y'all meeting? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Can I offer a suggestion, just a thought here too,
to the idea that maybe somebody's going like, I don't
make enough money right now? I believe that our relationships
are built to be fun fulfilling, and fruitful, And by
that I mean this could it be that the theme
that you're carrying because men men give seed and women

(41:23):
talking about produce and birth, could it be that your
seed is waiting for the right woman to produce the
thing that you're saying, I need financial stability, and God
is saying, well, I'm sending you a woman to get
you there. And a lot of times, as men, our
ego of be like na na, na, I gotta I'm
gonna get it on my own and and I don't
need that. But I watched God do something through my

(41:46):
life because I sat on the keyboard and she held
a microphone that produced the multiple.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
The impact in the in the in the world has
just been immense. But I believe it started with me
saying my seed was worthy to be able to move
forward with a woman that could produce.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
That's real. See, the Bible says he will give you
a suitable helper, and so to each man, Oh God
something to talk. So for each man, there's a suitable
helper for the vision that you have. And so I
pray that you get the level of discernment to be
able to discern that suitable helper because the very things

(42:31):
that you that God wants to birth in you and
through you that suitable helper come alongside of you in
ten x your dreams, ten ex your vision, ten ext
your business, and you'll be amazed by the Bible says
one can chase away one thousand and two can say
ten thousand demons of flight. That's ten x. So that
means that the minute you decide to marry somebody, they
come alongside of you in purpose, in the purpose place

(42:54):
and begin to bless your own levels you can't even imagine.
But you have to open yourself up to like that,
because cause I think a lot of times we listen
to the ideologies of social media and all that and
saying that a man has to make x amount of money.
And it's true, some of the women that you may
meet may be approaching you talking, trying to see what
you're wearing and all that. That's not heard though, that's

(43:15):
not your suitable helper. So when you hear that, you're like,
that's not the sound of my wife. My wife don't
sound like that. That's not the sound of my wife.
And so what I'm saying is that what I had
to start doing is praying for the sound of my
wife so that when I hear her voice, my spirit
wakes up and wakes up and be like, hold on,

(43:36):
it must be heard because the sound sound a whole
lot different. Because if I'm trying, I'm trying to go ahead.
If a single voice can wake up Lazarus from the dead,
then the voice of your wife should wake up purpose
inside of you, wake up something inside of you, visit

(43:57):
inside of you for you to be able to recognize,
to be like, that's her, that's her, and she'll be
able to hear the sound of the husband and you
and say that's my boot right there. So the reality is,
I don't want us operating in the spirit ram. We're
in the Spirit RAM. I don't want us operating in
a carnality mindset because we're believers, we're Kingdom people. We
can't date the same way the world days. We have

(44:18):
to hear differently. We gotta see differently, we gotta move differently,
we have to submit differently, we gotta lay prostate differently.
We gotta lift up the name of the Most High differently.
We gotta bring the Holy Spirit into our dating lives.
And so that's what I want you to do. For kings.
I want you to recognize the sound of a wife,
the sound of her, and don't get to sway by

(44:41):
the women that are not aligned with you past me
like you're not the one because the men you started
saying the attributes of the women that were approaching you.
All the women that God said wrong women, they all
said I wrong one because they don't talk like that,
they don't think like that, they don't think like that.
So brother, I want to talk to you. You said
that a lot of women are like, Hey, what you going?

(45:03):
How much money you're gonna spend on me? How old
are you? How are you? How old are you? I'm
twenty three, twenty three? Is you staying at twenty three
years old? The girls you are meeting are trying to
be in your pockets? Yes, so explain what what does
that sound like? What are they doing? Well it?

Speaker 10 (45:26):
I mean it's kind of subtle in a sense.

Speaker 12 (45:28):
Because it will be that first day of the coffee
shop or where we go out to and we get
into each other's interests. I'm somebody. I'm big on financial literacy.
I tell them early on, I want to be retired
no later than thirty five. I want to have the
choice to work, you know, by force or pursue my
passion and whatever that may be. But they hear that,
na see dollar signs. So it's like, Okay, where're we

(45:48):
going next? When we're gonna go downtown? Where we're gonna
take a trip, When we're gonna go here, So.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
I'm take a trip. Yeah, they want you to take
on a trip. Yeah, take a trip? Yeah.

Speaker 12 (46:03):
I mean if I so, if you make it to
that second date, then it's a label for a boyfriend,
girlfriend or whatever the case. Then it's when we're gonna
take a trip. One month anniversary.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
What's up.

Speaker 10 (46:13):
Let's go here, let's go drop some bread there.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
It's you said one dasary for real.

Speaker 10 (46:22):
It's a little tough out here.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
It's different.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
It's different out here now, man, The're real different.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
And so let me ask you this. Are you attracted
to a certain type of woman that reflects that?

Speaker 12 (46:35):
Oh, I mean, I'm not sure. I'm gonnattract the two.
I'm an attracted to the type of the type of woman.
My mother was a natural woman, not a lot of makeup,
natural hair, about her finances, about her business. So when
I'm looking for a woman, I'm looking for somebody that's

(46:55):
put together, you know, you may have on name brand
or something, but you smell good, you look good. But
more importantly, I'm going to find you someplace that we
have a common interest. That's why I met the young
lady at a fashion show, because we were both there modeling.
I've met women in bookstores. I've met women at church.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Before you said bookstore, that's all right. You like to
read and stuff. Huh absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all right.
And so you said you met a woman at church
before I did.

Speaker 10 (47:23):
This was back in Houston.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
He's like pastor. It wasn't here, It wasn't.

Speaker 10 (47:31):
The purpose place is fertile soil.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
And so you say, at twenty three years old, you're
mayorage minded.

Speaker 12 (47:39):
Yes, because at twenty three I know that I want
to have children.

Speaker 10 (47:43):
I want to be able to provide for them.

Speaker 12 (47:44):
But more than just providing, I want to allow them
to walk into a legacy that my father created a
family trust for us so that when he goes to
be with God in his kingdom, we have that.

Speaker 10 (47:54):
So I'm trying to replicate that for my children as well.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Right, So man with visy, y'all, he is a man
with vision. So let me ask you this. Have you
placed in your mind when you believe you'll get married. Like,
have you said that I ain't ready now but by
twenty five? Or is there an age or you saying
I'm available now?

Speaker 12 (48:15):
Well, if I'm being completely honest, and unfortunately, Aunt Cassandra's
and then the house snipes backed me up because she
met a young lady that I brought to the Purpose Place.
I met her here and started dating for a few
months and learned very quickly after she prayed over us
what the power prayer can do, because we broke up
shortly after. But I say that to say again, the

(48:37):
purpose Place is fertile soil. So this is where I
come to sell my seed and supplication and giving back
money to my community and hopefully and finding my wife
one day.

Speaker 6 (48:46):
Oh I love it.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Is there an age range?

Speaker 6 (48:49):
Is there?

Speaker 1 (48:50):
What is your dating age range? Twenty three? What's the
youngest and what's the oldest?

Speaker 12 (48:56):
Well this may shock a few people, but my youngest
is now twenty four and my oldest could be twenty nine,
maybe thirty?

Speaker 1 (49:05):
All right? See one older woman?

Speaker 10 (49:07):
Yeah, I want a mature woman.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Oh no, bug? One year? Would you be willing to
go up to thirty? Isn't when thirty thirty. You met
my God daughter.

Speaker 10 (49:25):
It will take me.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Let me let me ask all this for the people
that don't know. Let me ask y'all people that stream online,
how did y'all meet?

Speaker 9 (49:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I literally told this.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
I had a chance to tell it on your podcast.
So I'll let him tell his version. Now they've been
waiting till they've been waiting.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
We met at church.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I was a music director at the church I was
at and they were holding especially event called Gospel Heritage,
and she was actually there serving. This was before any records,
This is before any fame. This is before any of
that and my.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Paws because prayer works, I had prophecies over my life
for years and years and years. My mother came home
one day she told me that people will know your
name before they know your face. And I immediately and
my spirit start praying, Okay, got it. This is where
you're taking me, and there's going to be name in
lights platforms. I want to know that the person who

(50:29):
all married loves me for me, so I need him
to know me before the fame. Literally, I would pray
that prayer. If I'm to be married, I need him
to know me as top not as Tasha Cobs and
so that was an answer for guhabbit.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, and so it was definitely that. And now that
you said the thing about the sound, and I'll get
to that in a second. But one of the things
as a minstrel during that time, as I used to
always feel like this burden when I would play, like, man,
I can see like these atmospheres and I can set it.

(51:08):
And I knew how to do that, but I never
really had a worship leader that knew how to push through.
So we're at this conference and we do offering one
day and during the offering, this one gets something. Now
it's set, this is offering.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
This one gets up and just totally destroy its mem
what song you're singing? You man, what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Chasing after you never forget it and had it come
out I was an up tip or something yo, I'm talking.
Then laid up and down the altar. Some people face
on the floor, some people face on the It was
my line like you literally I was like yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
During the yes backstory, I had been dealing with polyps
on my vocal cords. So when I went to that conference,
I hadn't spoken. I could not talk the doctors had
me on voice rest for two months. I was walking
around with a dry race board. So when I opened

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my mouth to sing that song, it was the first
time I had done anything audibly in two months.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Backed up for sure, my homeboys playing the drums. I
don't know how much he knew the Lord, but I
looked over the sticks was up the up under the
bass drum. He was crying like that, it is real.
So the next morning they had. The next evening they
were having this big, huge concert like Hezekai, William Murphy

(52:36):
and everybody like you got him a clerk in everybody,
you name it. And so we're in rehearsal the next
morning and while we're in rehearsal, I'm playing the choirs
in there singing, and I hear somebody bust through the door.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
There was no door. This is where we disagree.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
There was a door. Have you ever been into a
building with no doors? You just walked in.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
I wasn't coming through the front.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
I came from the back where the gym was, and
the doors were open. If there were doors, I came
through a corra door.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
You walked, you walked in And I'm playing and she's like.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Stop stop stop stop you're playing as I mean, I
was a little rough around the She was here.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
And she walked over to me and I was like,
how you doing.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
My name is Kenneth. The octave just dropped like that.
I was you gave me your car?

Speaker 4 (53:36):
He did, gave me his business card. I was like,
who is this dude? You need to beat my energy.
If I'm if, I'm screaming and caring, O, you need
to carry on.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Why are you so calm? This is an emergency.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Piece is stronger than storms and so and so I
gave you the car. We it was literally like one chord,
like we didn't even have to rehearse it. It just
happened anyway. But after that, I felt this real tug

(54:09):
to stay connected. It was completely platonic I had. I
was just pray for me and that during that time
I needed glory to.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
God was working on it, yeah, and I didn't want
to pull a woman to God into what was going on.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Thank you God for being a redeemer. And we stayed
connected and we built this beautiful friendship. In a few
months later, I believe uh Nika was uh hit me
up and was like, you know, we releasing the CD.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I was like, okay, cool, I get you.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Let's see the cool now.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Walk in church one day and it's literally people singing
these songs.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I'm like, you know you kind of blowing up? Did you?
Did you even?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
No, So, even to this day, to your point that
you mentioned, it's kind of difficult for me to digest
the celebrity and the fact that you're called to the
world because I knew you before then.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
But that's that's how I meant. And so it was
literally it was a sound. She began to sing, and
you said you was wanting a worship leader, and then
in a moment where her voice was quote unquote restricted,
God allowed it to be opened up, and then you
heard something from the heavenly And what was so powerful
about what you just said? You know, it's spiritual because

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I don't know people being slain in the spirit during
an offering, you know, and then God used her at
that moment for you to recognize that. And so how
important because I want people to hear this part. How
important was it to build friendship before romance? The Bible
says don't wake in love before its time? And so
how important was it for you to build friendship with

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this woman to God before you decide to make it romantic.
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
An utmost priority because because it's it's a solid foundation,
right and now, when storms come, I still got my friend.
That far that part, I got my friend. Watch this.
The best part is when there are no storms, I
got my friend and we laugh and we joke and

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we cut up. And when it's time for us to
have to dig in and and and and build together
and stay strong and stay anchored, we still have a
friendship to build on. And it didn't It wasn't led
by sex or romance.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
And that type thing.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
It was built on us truly just getting to know
each other and and and with the intention to get
to know each other, not let me get to know
you so I can figure out how to you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
What about you? Tasha? How important was friendship to be
the foundation?

Speaker 3 (56:49):
I think it was very It was very important for me.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Because of it started happening in a moment where I
felt something.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Big was coming. But let me say this.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Though it was coming, I was also in a season
of darkness where I was dealing with depression. I was
dealing with anxiety and to have someone there that I
can be honest with who could know me in my
darkest place.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
I knew that.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
If I could talk to him again tomorrow after sharing
what I shared the night before, and he can handle
that in a friendship, then he could definitely handle it
in a marriage.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
How did you balance that? How did you balance a
friendship knowing that you know, because you may feel like,
well we cool or whatever, but I want more. Did
you ever have that feeling where you was like, oh,
he's just a friend, but I'm really like I'm feeling.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
His brother, you know what. That didn't happen till later.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
Like I'm telling you, Kenny would be getting dressed for
these dates, y'all.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I was killing him.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
I'm telling you, I see this is a nice denim suit.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
He used to wear actual denims suits.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
With a vest.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Why are you wearing at the Red Lobster. I don't
understand what's going on. So I was during the time.
I thought I was come on, ladies. I thought I
was getting him ready for somebody else, But I was
getting him ready for me.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
I didn't even know it. Like I was.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
I was sharpening him or like putting him together like
I would like it.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
For somebody else. But I had no clue.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Like, literally, I think it just dawned on us because
many of you know our testimony Kenny Kenny. We know
he got married to our baby mama. She probably watched Hey,
shy cair got married, had babies, and I went my way.
Career started happening leading worship in Atlanta, and we actually separated,
We stopped talking for a while, all that kind of stuff.

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And I remember this this I even never said this
out loud, but he was my friend during my dark season.
But when it was time during his divorce and going
through his dark season season, he called on a person
who he knew could handle that season, and so.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
He called me.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
It was like literally, the words were like I just
need my friend, you know. And we hadn't talked in forever,
but that was what he said to me. And that
was when, Okay, now there's a shift happening because there's
much more to this than just hey, this is a
botonic friendship.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
God is doing something with the two of you that.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Is so important. How may y'all want friendship with your
purpose partner friendship And we need to, we need to,
we need to normalize that of having friendship. But sometimes
you'll try to push something fast to be like, well,
what are we doing? You know what I'm saying, And
he's like he may be like, I'm trying to build friendship.
I'm trying to build trust with you. I'm trying to

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build reliability. I'm trying to build a foundation. You know.
One of the biggest things that builders do is they
make sure that that foundation on whatever structure they're building
is solid. And so friendship. You're hearing it right now,
the importance of friendship. And and sometimes y'all want the the
fairy tale love, the romance, the eros type of love, uh,

(01:00:10):
instead of just building the the Yeah. And it's like
you have to have a different mindset. And that's why
I say in the Kingdom of God, we have to
have a different mindset when we date. I'm gonna go
take it this way real quick. Sex. We gotta talk
about sex. Oh yeah, yeah, So we're gonna talk about this.

(01:00:32):
How many y'all y'all are y'all abstinent?

Speaker 8 (01:00:35):
Absin?

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yes? No? That is so goods over there? Yeah, move on, now,
go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
I'm not I'm not talking.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Stop bragging, y'all, Stop bragging. We over here, single, we
struggling I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Crystal. Why are you just
spin around like that? You just spun around a chair?

Speaker 13 (01:01:02):
She got like a mic, Brokene, the mic is on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
The mic is on.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
Y'all have broken like three pairs of perils.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
I passed, you passed. So let me ask y'all this
fellas y'all want to chime in on this conversation.

Speaker 11 (01:01:23):
I mean, so, I'm in a period in my life.

Speaker 10 (01:01:26):
Where like, casual sex doesn't serve me, like you know, so.

Speaker 11 (01:01:31):
And I recognized that, and you know, I had a
mentor that just told me that every time you lay
down like with the girl with the lady like like
she takes a piece of your soul like, and so
I just really took that to heart. As I'm as
I'm you know, chasing after my personal goals and trying
to like build my life, I just have to realize
that some things doesn't serve me, and casual sex was
one of them things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
That's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
So let me ask you this. So, while dating, do
you ask if the woman is also aligned with the
practicing abstinence? Well, hold on, let's define what casual is
because you know, I hear certain things differently. So what
what qualifies as casual? So, I mean there's it's layers

(01:02:16):
to it. So one I think, you know.

Speaker 11 (01:02:20):
There's like one night stands, right, there's dating apps like
you know on Tender where you can just you know,
swipe right and people just looking you know, for it,
you know, to get sex. And there are just moments
where you know, even even women too, they I just
want this man for one night and you know, and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
That's just it.

Speaker 11 (01:02:37):
So it's just having sex without intentions of you know,
having a boyfriend or girlfriend.

Speaker 8 (01:02:41):
Are getting married?

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
All right, So boyfriend girlfriend? So would you So you
said boyfriend girlfriends, So you say casual outside of boyfriend
or girlfriend. So you're open to having sex if you
were in a committed relationship with somebody before marriage. So

(01:03:03):
I figured.

Speaker 11 (01:03:06):
I probably get myself in a little bit of trouble
in this countrydictory. But if I'm being honest, like yes,
like with the right person, like if someone who was
invested in me and I'm just as invested in that person.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Absolutely good. So what what I try to do in
settings like this is for people to be honest because
a lot of times will give the church response to
church answer, and then a year later you got a baby.
And then you're like, well, hold on, I thought you
were away to god man, how you got a whole kid?
I lie, that's what I just lied to y'all. Yeah,

(01:03:37):
pregnant again. So be honest and be and thank you
for your transparency. What about y'all up there?

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
They like the doctor, They like doctor, they like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
What was the question?

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Well, you said you ain't had no time sonna.

Speaker 14 (01:03:57):
Make tom sex? So tie, what did your what is
your view?

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Uh sex as a single man, as a Christian single man?

Speaker 8 (01:04:21):
Christians time, you don't have time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
You don't have time to have sex? Y'all think telling
the truth.

Speaker 8 (01:04:38):
I would say that, sorry right now, No I am not.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
I do.

Speaker 8 (01:04:47):
I do know you're supposed to wait until marriage.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
I do know that.

Speaker 8 (01:04:50):
Now sometimes we fail in that. Yeah that's okay, but
uh yeah, that's my answers answer.

Speaker 12 (01:05:09):
What about you, king, I believe there is a season
for everything.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
As I You got.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
The most poetic big answer he could find with I
believe in the green grass.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
In it.

Speaker 12 (01:05:30):
Without getting myself in too much trouble, though I did
mention I got out of a relationship recently. Here I
had a season on the sidewalk. Not out in the streets,
but on the sidewalk.

Speaker 10 (01:05:43):
I adhere to crosswalk traffic.

Speaker 12 (01:05:45):
But you know, I don't feel like God put us
on this earth to be alone. And like you said,
friendship is important. Sometimes friendship to some people means other things.
I'm somebody who is open to that. But ultimately, when
I pursue an intimate relationship with somebody, I want to
know you for more than just your flesh. I want

(01:06:06):
to know what's in your mind. I want to know
what was in your past, where our president is, and
what you want your future to be.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
That was so politically correct at the end, he said,
I wasn't in the street, but I was on the sidewalk.
I was the whole crossing guard. I was a.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
I do want to offer this too. I believe this
is a difficult thing, right. It's a struggle between our
flesh and God. I believe that God always we talk
about it at offering, but I believe He always honor sacrifice.
And the whole basis of this is what do we believe?

(01:06:47):
What we believe is called faith. Do you have faith
enough to believe that God would ordain this space that
when I make a sacrifice that when I put that
ring on my finger and I enter it to a
covenant not with just this person, but with God, that
he's gonna step in and fireworks. He's gonna step in
and be more than I can imagine it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
And I think it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Requires a huge dying to our flesh and crucifying our
flesh to the place where we live in a space
of faith of God. And I know that feels like
a very churchy answer, but I believe. I believe and
have seen what happens when we make a sacrifice and
God will honor that sacrifice.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
We step out on faith and say.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
God, I'm gonna trust you because she is looking amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
She knew what she was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
But tonight, God, I'm gonna stick to my covenant with you,
and in this season, this season, I'm gonna trust you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
That's real. That's real. I will never forget what God
told me prior to my marriage when I got married
at twenty eight and God told me at twenty four,
you'll never be faithful to your wife unless you first
become faith to me. Wow, And I was like, Ah,
that sound good, But I'm gonna see for myself. Like

(01:08:06):
ericel Fitzpatrick, and so of course I lived. I was
fortunicating with my wife off and on before she was
my wife, and sure enough I got married. I didn't
exercise discipline in my single life, and so I didn't
work that muscle. And when I got married, what do
I do start stepping outside of my marriage and cheating
on my wife? And so now hindsight being twenty twenty,

(01:08:27):
I have to consecrate my flesh. I have to make
my flesh die. I have to put my flesh under
subjection because God said, I'll never be faithful. You'll never
be faithful to your wife unless you first become faithful
to me. And as single people, we are married to
Christ whether we like it or not, we're married to them.
And so if we decide to live a heart posture
and the lifestyle of cheating on our heavenly father and

(01:08:49):
our Savior, then we didn't work that muscle and that
muscle being disciplined so that we can be faithful to
our future spouses. That's what God told me. So I mean,
I just believe. I believe in this go around because
the first time I was wrong, I was I was
so wrong, very wrong. Amen, women, what are you all
viewpoints about that, Crystal says. She tapped out on that.

(01:09:11):
What is your what are your viewpoints on sex prior
to marriage? Joy?

Speaker 9 (01:09:17):
I'm abstinent, Okay, I'm about like listen, I done tried
it my way, right, so he let me try it
his way, amen? And so I am practicing discipline because
I don't want to again.

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
I'm forty seven.

Speaker 9 (01:09:32):
I'm not going to be sitting up here passing myself
around to people that I meet. And then when I
actually lay with my husband, now, I got to give
him a piece of me and everybody else that was
in me. So that's not what I'm looking for, and
I'm looking for that in him. So I am not
going in their area right now.

Speaker 7 (01:09:52):
And to God, say this is your husband?

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Amen? Amen, breath what about you?

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Similar to him?

Speaker 5 (01:09:59):
I was driving with no license and the lord pulled
me over and sat me down for forty weeks and
I had a baby.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
So for me, rodden dirty, I was right, I have
no license on this boat.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
He pulled me over for forty weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
No, But I think for me, because I've always done
it wrong, I want I want to do it right,
and I don't want to I want to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
I lost my conviction for it. Actually, so I wanted
to do I want to do it right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
And that's real. I'm glad you said that you can
lose your conviction for it, because I know it's been seasons.
I'll just I'll be like, this ain't for me. Abstinence
is not for me. God, and put me on this
earth to do this. This does not make sense in
this big age. It just don't make sense. It just
don't you know what I'm saying. And then God will
be like Lateriri's like I need you to submit. I'll
be like, yeah, but you take too long. And so

(01:10:57):
the reality is we may be withholding the hand of
God because see, God's gonna teach you what you need
to learn, however you want to learn it, and so
you can prolong the lesson depending on how stubborn you are.
You know, some of us been felling grades, flunking, going
right back, repeating the same grade over and over and
over again. And God said, I'm trying to elevate you
to another level, but you just won't learn what I'm

(01:11:19):
trying to teach you right now. And so that's the
hard posture I'm in now to be like, you know what,
let me just go ahead and just submit, let me sacrifice.
Let me see what that feels like in my life.
Because I'll be absent for about seven months, and then
I'll fall off about a year, and I'll be absent
again eight months, fall off thirteen months. That math don't

(01:11:41):
even make sense, doesn't It makes no sense, But it
made sense to me, you know what I'm saying. And
so at the end of the day, I kept saying,
I said, God, okay, listen, I want to be in
your perfect will, perfect perfect will. And a lot of
times we forget what that means because we get so
innundated with social media and our friends saying that don't
make sense and all that. I'll meet women to be like, hey, listen,

(01:12:04):
we're too old for that. Like I'm gonna have to
test it out before we get married, and so we'll
I mean, they'll have all those type of conversations, and
so it's not just men pursuing women in a sexual fashion.
Where's women. At the same time, they're like, let's not
got nees. You gotta do something, you know what I'm saying,
And so they were laughing some of y'all testifying back there.
So I showed it. I told them that last week.

(01:12:26):
But and so the reality is that I just gotta
trust God. How many y'all just want to trust God
to just go around? Let's just trust God and see
what happens. And we all know that the minute you
begin to have sexual intercourse with somebody, you start getting foggy,
you know, red flags, start looking pink. You know what
I'm saying. You'd be like, I should have left a

(01:12:47):
long time ago, but it was so good, and so
you stick around a little bit longer. And so I
want to have clarity in my thoughts. I want to
have clarity in my discernment. I want to have clarity
in how I move. As we get ready to wrap up,
were supposed wrap up aout nine o'clock, it look about time.
What would you like to say as you wrap up?
I want to I want to start with you, Crystal,
what is something that you would like to share about

(01:13:10):
what you've learned about yourself as you are single? What
have you learned about yourself during this single season?

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
Well, I am coming out of a twenty year marriage,
so I really am learning who I am. I ask
myself daily. You know what do I like. I've been
a mom. I have three girls in college at Watford,
so I've been a teacher.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
I've been all these.

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
Hats, all these different things. So really, for the last
year and a half or so, I've been asking myself
some questions so I can go to the table and say, well,
this is who I am, and this is what I want,
and this is what I do, and this is because
I've done so much for so many other people, I'm
still trying to figure out exactly the part that I
like and not that's the part that I enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Why I was there, So I.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Like that, I like that breathe. What have you learned
about yourself?

Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
I've learned about myself that I don't have to count
myself out and I don't have to dumby down my
value because I'm a single parent.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
That's good, as somebody need to hear that. I want
you to unpack that a little bit more. How long
did it take you to get to that place where
you didn't have to dumb yourself down because you were
a single parent.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
I would say maybe around year three and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Almost four. So it's fresh for me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
And what and why did you feel devalued.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
Because I feel like it's kind of shunned upon, Like
if you date a woman with a kid, it's a
lot of responsibility. And for me, I have a daughter
with special needs, so I feel like I already came
with with a lot and it's a lie.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
So that will be my answer.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Well, I pray right now that God grant you somebody
special to handle your kid with special needs. I have
the creed declare right now, from the crown of your
head to the souls of your feet, that God fashion
is a man that knows how to care for your
heart and your child's heart. Right now, in the name
of Jesus, every lie that the enemy has spoken over
your life, I come against it right now in the

(01:15:24):
name of Jesus. No weapon formed against you shall prosper,
And every tongue that has risen up against you shall
be condemned. For this is your inheritance, because you are
a servantive God. In the name of Jesus, God is
gonna bless you and blow your mind that when God
begins to open up the windows of heaven, He's gonna
pour you out blessing. You don't have room enough to receive.
It's gonna be a testimony. It's gonna be great. It's

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gonna be the goodness of God. It's gonna be God's
best for your life. And as you begin to stand
at that altar with that God given man that was
standing in joint hands with you in holy matrimony, you're
gonna be able to decree that it was nobody but God.
It's nobody but God that restores your heart, that restores
your mind, that restores your life. In the name of Jesus,

(01:16:06):
in the name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus,
in the name, in the name of Me, in the
name of Jesus. I speak right now to the people,
right now, as you begin to believe that God has
forgotten about you, God has not forgotten about you. Let
me tell you right now, He's heard every prayer that

(01:16:28):
you prayed, every tear that was shed. He's bottled it up.
He's waiting to bless you. I pray that your faith
fails not. I pray that your faith fails not. Do
not grow weary, and you're well doing, for in due
season you shall reap. If you faith not keep standing,

(01:16:48):
keep pursuing, keep counting on God, Keep believing, keep faithing,
keep honoring God's word, keep so and sees for your
next miracle. Keep blessing the faith of God. Keep blessing them.
The Bible says he that begin of the good work
shall perform it unto the day of Christ. I want
you to receive that in the name of Jesus, Heavenly Father,

(01:17:12):
rain down in this place right now. God, rain down
in this place right now, in the name of Jesus.
You said. It's not by power nor by might, but
by thy spirit. Let your spirit overtake us right now.
In the name of Jesus. We glorify you, We magnify you, God,
We lift you up. You are Jehovah Jenre, you are Elohim,

(01:17:34):
you are el Shada, You are Jehovah Ralphi.

Speaker 8 (01:17:36):
God.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
We worship you right now in the name of Jesus.
You said that they that worship you shall worship you
in spirit and in truth. God, We will not lean
to our own understanding in all our ways will and
we will acknowledge you and allow you to direct our past.
We give you all the praise, the glory and the adoration. God.

(01:17:58):
We thank you in advance for our pers His partners.
I speak right now for you to divinely connect us
with our purpose partners expeditiously this year God, Jesus, expeditiously
right now God, in the name of Jesus, Kingdom couple
shall arise, Kingdom couples shall arise, Kingdom couples shall arise

(01:18:24):
and do great exploits. In your name, Man, in your name,
Heavenly Father, we thank you. We thank you in advanced
for the testimonies that's going to come forth from this experience.
In Jesus name, we pray Amen past.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Now listen, can we give God a hairdclap of praise
for the gift of the terrorists.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
With phil.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
And everything that you poured out will be poured back
into you in Jesus' name. In Jesus' name, do we
give it up with these panelists as they go back
to their seats.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Thank you so much, Ladarian thrust it suddenly into child
protective services. In twenty fifteen, my nephew Black a boy
the likelihood have been adopted outside of kinship slim to
none Rmione, sixteen years old, black a boy with five

(01:19:25):
years in the FALSI care system. Before I even knew
his name, the likelihood have ever been adopted. Yep, you
guessed it. Slim to none. While Ladarian and Ourmiani were
trying to survive and barely thrive in an overpopulated and
underfunded false care system, I was living my own life,
doing well professionally, having been a single father with a

(01:19:47):
daughter who at that point was doing well in college.
It was my time to live my life right.

Speaker 6 (01:19:52):
Wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
I felt unsettled, tireless, agitated. There are just two many
of our black children stuck in ambiguity and in the
limbo of the Falster care system. In twenty seventeen, I
legally adopted my nephew Ladarian. Fast forward to twenty nineteen.
I had no ties to this other young king, but
I felt God instructed me to adopt them also on

(01:20:15):
al bate. Starting over with parenting should have been enough. Right,
Working with various foster care and adoption agencies to help
bring awareness to the countless young Black Kings and the
Falster care system should have decreased my agitation. Right joined
the board of directors of Advantage Adoption and organization that
helps find permanent adoptive homes for children in Falter care

(01:20:37):
should have led to some type of resolve right, No,
not at all. None of it felt like I had
done enough. I now realized that every one of those
experiences was land the fundamental foundation for my life's mission.
Kingdom Royal. Kingdom Royal would be a luxury, state of

(01:20:57):
the art home for foster boys. Our first location will
be in the Dallas Fortwork Metroplex. We will utilize the
whole person approach that instills identity, empowers them to advocate
for themselves, and enlightens them regarding new perspectives and limitless
options that they thought were impossible. Though the young Kings
will attend the local public schools that are in proximity

(01:21:20):
to King of Royale. Our at home curriculum will broaden
their worldview through participating in the arts, attending various cultural events,
learning about and engaging in multifaceted discussions about current events
and even relevant historical contexts, introducing them to gardening and landscaping,
and even caring for our animals on our form and

(01:21:41):
on site stables. We just launched our startup capital campaign
with the goal of raising two point eight million dollars.
Now why two point eight million dollars? Well, in twenty seventeen,
I created a web series in which I performed random
acts of kindness for targeting the homeless community. One of
the most notable successes was that one of the videos
went by IRA, garnering twenty eight million views. However, one

(01:22:04):
of my biggest regrets is that I didn't raise a
single dollar to help in implementing a more sustainable plan
for the homeless community. So, throughout the years, with much remorse,
I reflect that I'm not maximizing that moment. I knew
if at that time just ten percent of the viewers
donated one dollar, we would have raised at least two

(01:22:25):
point eight million dollars that could have really established long
term support for the homeless community, or at least started
a long term initiative to do so. This is my
do over, This is our new beginning. Together, we can
attack this at the route by specifically helping our homeless
Black boys who are already disproportionately represented in the American

(01:22:48):
fossil care system. I'm the Terra Sarwidfield. I've been nominated
for three regional Emmys documenting my work with the homeless
as well as my personal adoption journey. Despite those accolades,
the greatest Award for me is truly providing the infrastructure
for a transformed life. Visit Kingdomroyal dot com for more details,

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