DEVIANT
From the award-winning creators of Down The Hill: The Delphi Murders, comes DEVIANT, a new true crime series that dives into the dark corners of what human beings are capable of. Hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden tell good stories about bad people who do very bad things. Some people are wired for good. Some are wired for bad. And some are wired... to be Deviant. Follow the show wherever you listen and across socials @deviant.podcast (IG, TT, YT)
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September 30, 2025 • 38 mins
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Two days after the Tampa double murder committed by Devon Arthurs, police in Key Largo, FL arrest Brandon Russell, a Florida National Guard member, nuclear physics student and the co-founder of the extremist Atomwaffen Division. Also, he's Devon Arthurs's only surviving roommate. What they discover in his car and apartment reveal the terrifying reach of a violent, accelerationist neo-Nazi network.
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September 23, 2025 • 34 mins
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On a Friday afternoon in Tampa, 18-year-old Devon Arthurs walks into an apartment leasing office and says “I just killed two people.” Those two: his roommates...young men caught in the grip of online radicalization.
What follows is a hostage standoff, a web of neo-Nazi ideology,and the unraveling of a case that exposes the violent underbelly of American extremism.
Hosted by Andrew Iden, this episode of DEVIANT examine...
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September 5, 2025 • 42 mins
Being punished for crimes you haven’t committed yet sounds like Minority Report. But in 15 states—including California—it’s the law. Under the Sexually Violent Predator Act (SVP), offenders who’ve already served their time can be held indefinitely if experts believe they’re likely to reoffend.
In this episode of DEVIANT: Off Script, host Dan Szematowicz sits down with Dr. Samantha Stein, forensic psychologist and author of Evil at...
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August 29, 2025 • 39 mins
Former ATF agent Jay Dobyns spent 27 years undercover, from Waco and Columbine to infiltrating the Hell’s Angels in Operation Black Biscuit. In this Off Script conversation, he tells hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden what it takes to live inside America’s most violent worlds—and survive.
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August 26, 2025 • 31 mins
Anthony Sowell terrorized Cleveland’s Mount Pleasant neighborhood in the late 2000s. A convicted rapist and registered sex offender, he went unnoticed for years—even as neighbors complained about a foul stench they thought came from the sausage factory next door. By the time police finally acted, 11 women were gone.
Hosts Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden take you inside Sowell’s house of horrors. From the overlooked red flags to th...
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August 22, 2025 • 46 mins
Former cop, detective and firearms instructor Glen Williams sits down with host Andrew Iden to talk about what the job really does to people—and how to survive it. This is a candid conversation about trauma (on the street, at home, and inside the chain of command), the cases that stick with you, and why talking about it might be the only way through. If you work in law enforcement, EMS, fire, dispatch—or you cover crime—you’ll feel...
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August 19, 2025 • 44 mins
Ever wonder what private investigators really do when the cameras aren’t rolling? Forget the Hollywood clichés—no wiretaps, no lockpicks, no magic gadgets. In this episode, host Andrew Iden and veteran PI Ken Childs pulls back the curtain on the realities of surveillance, insurance fraud cases, missing persons, and the risks of being spotted in the field.
From tense stakeouts in Beverly Hills to dangerous encounters in bad neigh...
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August 15, 2025 • 54 mins
Co-host Andrew Iden sits down with James A. Gagliano — West Point grad, former FBI Hostage Rescue Team operator, undercover agent, and two-term mayor — for a no-BS debrief on what the job really takes and how the mission shifted after 9/11. If you care about organized crime, counterterrorism, and the reality of modern policing, this one delivers.
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August 12, 2025 • 26 mins
Join Dan Szematowicz and Andrew Iden as they discuss recent updates in the cases they've been following, including the Devil's Den murders in Arkansas. The hosts share their thoughts on various policing strategies, polygraph use and extremism. Listen for insightful commentary and updates on ongoing investigations, and find out what's coming next on all things DEVIANT.
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August 8, 2025 • 55 mins
You've been conned, and now you're getting revenge. That's the story of Johnathan Walton, our guest on DEVIANT Off Script. In this episode, Johnathan shares his harrowing experience of being swindled out of nearly $100,000 by a professional con artist who pretended to be his best friend. After years of investigation, he's now dedicated to exposing these scammers and protecting others. He's the author of 'Anatomy of a Con Artist' an...
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August 5, 2025 • 30 mins
On a summer afternoon hike in Arkansas' Devil's Den State Park, tragedy strikes a family when Clinton and Cristin Brink are attacked in front of their children. The children survive. Their parents don't. The assailant: a mysterious man dressed in black. This episode of 'Deviant' brings you the details of the crime, the immediate police response and the intense manhunt that ensues. Host Dan Szematowicz explores the discovery and ar...
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August 1, 2025 • 41 mins
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In this episode of Deviant Off Script, host Andrew Iden engages in a deep and intense conversation with Clark Fredericks, author of 'Scarred.' Fredericks recounts his harrowing journey of surviving childhood sexual abuse, and the impactful decision to confront and ultimately kill his abuser. He delves into the psychological and emotional turmoil that ensued, his struggles with substance abuse, and his p...
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July 29, 2025 • 37 mins
In this episode of Deviant Summer School, host Andrew Iden sits down with Michael Yoder, a former agent in the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit (BAU), here to explain how criminal profiling actually works. From dispelling Hollywood misconceptions to discussing the intricate process of developing profiles, Yoder provides an in-depth look into how the BAU operates in reality.
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July 25, 2025 • 58 mins
We're diving dive deep into the world of polygraphs, interrogations, and lie detection with Brad Beeler, a former Secret Service agent with 25 years of experience. Brad shares insights from his illustrious career in protective services and polygraph examination, including the science behind polygraphs, how investigators use them to detect truth and practical strategies from his new book, 'Tell Me Everything.' Learn how to read body...
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July 22, 2025 • 40 mins
Have you ever wondered how police handle a missing child case? In this episode of Deviant Summer School, retired detective Jeff Bell, who worked for the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, shares his experiences and insights. He discusses his involvement in the high-profile Carlie Brucia case, the investigative process behind missing child cases and the emotional challenges faced by detectives. Jeff also provides an in-depth look at ...
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July 18, 2025 • 47 mins
(AUDIO ONLY) How do you catch a spy if you're an FBI counterintelligence agent? In this episode of Deviant Off Script, we dive into the 80-year cat-and-mouse game of espionage. Host Dan Szematowicz interviews LaRae Quy, a former FBI agent who spent almost 25 years protecting the U.S. from Russian and Chinese spies. LaRae shares stories from her career, discusses the evolution of counterintelligence through the fall of the Soviet Un...
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July 15, 2025 • 32 mins
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In Part 2 of our DEVIANT Summer School class on homicide investigations, retired Chicago Police homicide Detective Mike Hammond takes us through the intricate process of catching killers. From establishing motive and gathering evidence to working with prosecutors and navigating the complexities of cold cases, Mike shares his extensive experience and insights. He discusses the challenges of dealing with victims' families...
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July 11, 2025 • 39 mins
In this episode, host Andrew Iden talks with Jacob Moon, a US Army veteran and former corrections officer who has transitioned into a true crime writer. Jacob shares his journey from serving in the military to accidentally finding a career in corrections, the challenges and dangers of working behind bars, and the importance of respect and restraint in dealing with inmates. He also discusses how his structured and disciplined backgr...
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July 8, 2025 • 30 mins
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It's Deviant Summer School's deep dive into the world of homicide investigations. Featuring former Chicago homicide detective Mike Hammond, part one of of a two part exploration covers the initial phases of an investigation—from receiving the call and processing the crime scene to gathering critical evidence and interviewing witnesses. Learn about the meticulous steps detectives take within the crucial first few days a...
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July 4, 2025 • 39 mins
From Ted Bundy to Gary Ridgeway, why does the Pacific Northwest produce so many serial killers? Join host Dan Szematowicz as he sits down with Pulitzer Prize winner Caroline Fraser, author of 'Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of Serial Killers,' to try and unravel this bizarre mystery. Caroline and Dan delve into theories, including the lead-crime hypothesis, geographical oddities and our societal obsession with serial k...
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