June 5, 2025 • 49 mins
Today, we're thrilled to welcome back one of our favourite guests — the hilarious and unfiltered Urzila Carlson. This episode is perfect if you need a real chuckle! Urzila joined the pod back in 2022 for an episode titled ‘Gags, Guns, and Grenades’ and that should indicate that she was one of the funniest people we’ve ever interviewed. In that chat we spoke about growing up ‘proper poor’ in South Africa, before moving to New Zealand and becoming a comic.
Urzila has recently finished a very successful run of shows at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival and started her new You Don’t Say tour. But that's not all — she's also now a big movie star in Netflix’s rom com Kinda Pregnant, starring alongside Amy Schumer. It was the number one movie worldwide with over 25 million views in its first week.
In today’s episode we spoke about:
- Urzila starring in a huge Netflix film alongside Amy Schumer
- What Amy Schumer and Adam Sandler are like
- Urzila’s divorce, then engagement, then break up and whether she’ll stay single
- Her ‘exclusive’ and iconic break up line that you can also use!
- How Urzila got the part and Britt’s attempt to copy her
- How comedy is crafted and how Urzila finds some of her best jokes in mundane things
- The behind the scenes of the film and how much Urzila got to make her own lines
- Needing a friend who will clean out your humiliating things
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life
on Cut. I'm Brittany, I'm Laura today. I am so
excited about our guest. She's not new to Life on Cut.
In fact, we did have her on the podcast three
years ago, which seems crazy, the one and only Ursula Carlson.
Now we interview you about a bunch of stuff three
years ago, but you've done a lot in the interim.
(00:33):
You've become a Hollywood star alongside Amy Schumer in Almost Pregnant,
which kind of pregnant, sorry, kind of pregnant.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It might be Almost Pregnant, Almost.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Kind of Pregnant, which had like twenty five million streams
on Netflix. It was I think it was one of
the highest grossing yeah films.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I think at the last count when I stopped opening emails,
it was just over fifteen million. Were nuts?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, Ill, either you get to a point where you're like,
I don't bother to open the email.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
No, because it's like, I don't you know what It's
not even that I get arrogant about it is because
I don't understand what it means.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah, fact, I mean I hear uber famous no, I
get it, but it's like, also, you have to account
in people's facility to maintaining that attention span because people
just look at me and I can tell they're like
the fuck they're not you from and.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You can see it in their eyes. And you can't
say to someone at the daily counter, yeah, I was
in a movie.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I don't don'try if you've been viewed fifty million times,
that is the biggest flex. If someone looks sideways at me,
I'd be like, yeah, almost kind of pregnant. I'd be like, no,
can you just pass me the tuner? I'd be seen
it left, right and center.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
There's a lot more merit to that than people looking
at you like they have some vague recognition and you're like, yeah,
I was on The Bachelor seven years ago. So this
is what we have to do with is more embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I mean when you say it like that, I hear
you and I take it on board.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, you've just also finished your successful run of Melbourne
International Comedy Festival shows and you are at the start
of your tour. We were just talking you going in
North America, your UK, New Zealand, Ireland, Australia. So we're
going to get into all of that. I absolutely can't wait.
You've also had a divorce in interim.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, the divorce comes through would have been
about two three years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well, no, what happened?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I mean something you guys don't know from listening to
the last interview that we did with Ursula. So we
sat down, we had this great chat, talked about your childhood,
talked about everything guns, like shows, kids, guns, There was
a lot going on in that show.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And then Grenade sorry producer Keisha's like, we spoke about Grenade.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh yeah, it was growing up. I mean like, yeah,
a different time.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And then we stopped record And at the end of
that episode you said we stopped recording now and I
was like, yep, and you go, I couldn't say it,
but yeah, I'm in the middle of a divorce at
the moment. You're like, it's not really well known, but
I've got a comedy show coming out about it soon,
so everyone will know. How do you find talking about
your personal life and like.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Big, like very hard things.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Actually, I'm filtered.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I know we're coming back to it, but I'm gone
taking a segue. How do you find turning that then?
Into comedy or is everything like, is there anything that's
off limits?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You know what? I okay, the only things I want
joke about is rape and abuse, right, But I honestly
think like I talk about my divorce, I talk about
my relationship failing, I talk about my weight, I talk
about everything that's happening in my life. I talk about
because I think we all can relate to everything. My
mom just got diagnosed. With all times I've chucked that in,
(03:25):
I talk about that in the show, but I did
ask her. I said to her, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
She doesn't remember you talk about it. You're allowed.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
No, you'd hope she forgets everything, But no, she's still
she because she can hype or fixate on some stuff.
So when I did the previous show, I said to it,
can I because some of this stuff is so funny,
And I said to can I use this stuff? So
she said, yeah, you can use that and that, but
not that, not that too. The stuff She's like absolutely not,
So goa, I want to use it, but she goes,
(03:53):
you can tell your friends. So I tell the audience
now I say, I want to tell you. I said,
there's two other things that I think is the funniest bits.
But I'm not I have to tell it because mom said,
I said, but you have to make friends with me.
In about five to seven years, I'll tell you the Joe.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So come back in five to seven years. Yeah, playing
a hard, long game.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, I just think because there's so many people who
come to the show every year, and so they knew
when I got engaged. I told him, when I got married,
I told him when we're having babies. It's in my material.
So now, of course divorce is part of it. We
all go through it, you know, if you're lucky enough.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And I'm not married yet, but I look forward to
the divorce.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's a good time. It's a good time. So yeah,
So then I got divorced, and I said, I'm going
to tell them. I don't want to. I can't lie
to my audience. I think, Yeah, people know they can
sense bullshit. Yeah, and so I'm not what am I
going to do for the next five years talk about
a wife I don't have.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But it's also where you mind your content from, right,
Like you have to get the content from what you're
living every single day. We do it the same year,
like Laura did her gender reveal, for her new baby
on air live, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
That's what you got to do.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You've got to give him something.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Right, Yeah, yeah, but it's true. It's like, well, you're
going to talk about it, You're going to talk about
it down the track totally as well.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, I know we are about to get into what
we already have. But you always have the most brilliant stories.
Can you kickstart with an accidentally unfiltered and embarrassing story?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, I actually because it's very hard for me to
find anything that's embarrassing, because I'm unashamed of everything I've
ever done, but this one. So I used to open
for Chelsea Handler. Whenever she'd be in Auckland Order, I'd
go open for her. But I also did heaps of
other stuff with her, like I know her, I have
a phone number. We've seen messages to each other. We
(05:35):
did some right.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Message you sent to Chelsea Handler for the fiftieth birthday.
I said, happy birthday, you slut, and.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
She said out your mom. Yeah yeah, And so we
were just you know, sort of back and forth, back
and forth anyway. But when she came to New Zealand
the last time, I said, look, I can't open for
you again. Get someone else to overview. I go but
a week and go for dinner, and then we go,
but I wait for her after the show, watch the show.
Then after the show, I waite for but I'm standing
outside her dressing room and she's inside finishing up. And
(06:06):
but it's me to a manager, Tom, And there's two
cleaning ladies waiting with like buckets and mops and you know,
and blue overalls so that she can leave and they
can go clean the dressing room. So Chelsea walks out.
Now I'm just sitting here on the right against the wall.
She walks straight out, straight across to the cleaning lady
and she goes, good to see you, and then she
(06:29):
hugs her like like full you know that pull underneath,
like pull against like full ted on Ted hugged with
this woman and immediately to a manager. Tom wanted to
stop this, and I was like, no, let's see where
this goes. And then but as soon as she hugged
the cleaner, the cleaner immediately hugged her back, clearly knowing
(06:51):
her name is not Ursh What the hell are you doing?
Like if someone goes Susan, I'm not Susan. It's Chelsea
Handler your fucking hands off, yo. But but she immediately
embraced her back right, and she closed her eyes during
the hug, and I was like, I don't know what
this witch has been through, but she needed this hug.
You could tell she needed this right. And then I'm
(07:13):
looking at her and she's sort of smiling, and and
she's smiling at me. And in that moment, I'm like,
this is kind of embarrassing for both of us. Yeah,
like it's embarrassing for her because Chelsea thought she was me.
But this woman was fit like Jesus eye twelve and
she's must like you can tell. She goes to the
gym and she makes physical work and she's you know,
(07:35):
And I'm like, okay, so that's you know, offensive to her.
But then when she smiled, I said, she only had
one tooth in her mouth, a black one like, and
I thought, that's you know, and it was at the bottom.
She's hanging one at the bottom. Yeah, it wasn't a
bad way. You could tell her it hours left in
that mouth. So then I said, I just pointed to
(07:58):
Tom and he goes, Chelsea isla, and I'm like, and
then she turned around and she goes and then just
hugged me like that.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Never happened, Like it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So I was just watching the cleaning lady over her shoulders,
just smiling at her with my white all the tea yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
On both on both upper and lower.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
But then I said afterwards, like, how's the fuck we're
having dinner? I go, so, how the fuck do you
mistake me for that lady? She's got a mop in
a bucket? She goes, well, every time I see you've
got something in your hand, it's a fucking microphone. But
this is why.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And I did it to you this morning.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I'd be more offended than you're. Like, Bro, I've opened
to you.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So many times, how do you not recognize me? But
I ran into Urshula this morning, like hours and hours
hours ago, and I haven't seen you in the flesh
I mean Instagram, but I'm seeing in the flesh since
our last record. And sometimes when something's out of context
because I run into you in a coffee shop, you
want to like preface who you are really quickly, just
like she's.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Not gonna have it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
She's gonna think I'm a super fan that's coming up.
And I was like USh, I was like Hey, it's
been so long, haven't seen since like a podcast record
three years breaking.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It's like you really need to say who.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
You are to keep the content, but not just that, like.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
People who have sent me a message. There was a
woman today. I went to the Opera House on the
steps to do some recording, and this woman came up
and she goes, I send you a message about your
mom on Instagram. I was like, you're like, what, Like,
I can't even tell you how many people have sent
me messages about my mum or about my family or
my house or you know, like people send stuff all
(09:28):
the time. And because I answer all of them, and
she goes, no, you responded. I'm like, I literally responded
to eighteen people while I was sitting on the step here.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You're incredible. So you respond to every DM that you receive?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, unless you can tell their fucking cray, how do you?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I mean that to me is remarkable because I honestly
don't know how you have the time, amongst everything that
you do to write back to every person.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Like that's such a that's such a timehole.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Maybe I don't get as many as you think.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I reckon you do.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Somebody's having fifty million views on TV shows getting more
than what I am and I find challenging.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, like I just I mean, I don't always like
sometimes I just send them a love heart or your
thumbs up or I just to recognize that they've same
pair message.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You take the time.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, but if people talk to me, I talk back
to them. So some people have actually become friends with
It's really from Instagram, but like that.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Just so you can then tell the content about your
Mommy mom said go make friends.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And trying to get that joke out.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, you have been really busy. As we said, you
have since become a movie star with fifty million views
on Netflix alongside Amy Humor. How did it happen? How
did you go from being stand up comedian too Amy
asking you to be in seeing this Hollywood film.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I think it's just stand up to stand up again.
It's like because when my special came out on Netflix
and twenty twenty, I was in quarantine here in Sydney,
and she shared the clip and she goes, guys, go
watch us, this bitch is hilarious. And I replied on
you know, and I said, hi, thanks for reposting that,
and then she goes anytime, so we we sort of
(11:00):
stayed in touch. Whenever she did something, i'd say, you
know and she or if I did a clip, she'd
send a message. And then I woke up. I think
it's like the second or the third of February last year,
and I had a message on my phone from her saying, hey,
can you act give me a call? I think I've
got the perfect role for you, and her phone number,
and I was like, should I wait? Normally i'd wait play. No, Normally,
(11:23):
I like, I don't answer those I wait for my
I'll send it to my manager with a screenshot and
go do this this. Yeah, I don't know, you know.
And then I thought, fuck, it's Amy and because we've chatted,
and then she.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Can see you've seen it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So now I was It's three o'clock in the morning,
and normally I wouldn't touch my phone during the night,
but something, you know, when that little voice go check
your phone, check your fine, I'm like, I'm not checking
my phone, and it's like, dude, just check your phone,
you know. And I wonder how much water compelicans hold,
and you know, it's just all these questions, and I
was like, fuck, So I checked and then I said
I was just gonna ring it, and I just clicked
(11:57):
and as soon it didn't even ring, she just went
eshler yes, and then she goes, can you act. I
go yeah, I mean it was in a closet for
twenty six years. Half can And then and then she's like,
I'm going to send you the script. So she sent
me the script. You like, don't send it. I'm in whatever, yeah, yeah, whatever.
So then I read. I started reading and she goes
(12:18):
read it and call me. So I read it. But
then my son seven comes and he gets in bed
with me, and I'm like, okay, now it's full thirty.
I need to sleep because I still have to get
up and get these kids to school in the morning,
and I still have to do the whole parenting thing.
It's I'm like, oh well, so I put it on
do not serve. I sleep. The next morning, seven o'clock,
turn my phone on. She wrings me. She goes, what
(12:38):
did you think? And I said, oh no, I loved it.
She goes, okay, so what we need is we need
to do a read through. We need to go okay, mate,
I just need to give my kids off to school.
She goes, how long do you need. I go give
me two and a half hours. She goes, all right,
I'm sending you a zoom link. So then I went,
dropped the kids at school, came back, hopped on the
zoom am. I I was still in my tracksuit, pans
(13:00):
and a T shirt here and then when she was
sitting in bed, so I'm like, oh, thank god. And
then we did a read through, and Tyler Swindell, the director,
was in a car on his way somewhere. I did
a read through. She goes, this is great, We're going
to do an audition. She'd already booked everything in. And
then I was waiting for my manager to wake up,
(13:21):
because you know, then like to sleep in those lazers.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You already booked yourself a job before they even knew
you got a screw.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah. I was like, you got to wake up. I
got her job.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I'm like, have I got to give you twenty percent
of this? I've done all the groundwork already.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Listen what I mean twenty percent? Listen, this is just
a shadow to everyone and my managers sitting in the
back of the fifteen percent, this standard fifteen percent more
than enough. Twelve yeah, drop down, it's a Wales area. No,
but because I don't know anything, like I didn't know
any of the lingo that I didn't even know what
(13:53):
to read through was initially I had to google it.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It's so frustrating to listen to you because that is
the stuff dreams are made of. A superstar sliding into
your dam being like hey, being this film and you're
like yeah, okay, like that is incredible, But can I
just want to flex something? Amy Schumer was in my
dam was last night? Was she yeah, actually we see
a shirt back? She posted me on a story last night.
(14:17):
I'm currently I'm currently on Amy Schumer's story. Well, I
watched kind of Pregnant kind of almost almost up the dark.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, you feel just.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Kind of pregnant?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Is actually anyway, there was one particular scene that Amy
was in where I haven't laughed this is you were
in funny scenes too, but this one scene I haven't
laughed so hard like I was. I was winning myself
out loud. And it was the scene where he was
trying to go down on us. So she's if you
haven't seen it, it's so funny. He's laying down, he's blindfolded,
he's not allowed to us. She's trying. I'm sorry, listener, listen.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I was like, no, I don't know, guys, go have
you seen it? Seen it? I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It was awkward that we were making no and she's
trying to sit on space and it is just so
fucking funny. And I took a photo of it and
I just put it on my Instagram and I was like,
this is the funniest, most understated comedic scene I have
seen in so long at Amy Humor. And then just
go watch it. And she reposted it anyway. I wrote
(15:15):
to it, let me check if she's in back. She
wouldn't have. I was like, oh my gosh, she wrote
to me. So I was like, let me take this
opportunity because maybe then she'll investigate see that I'm an actor,
and then maybe she'll ask me onto something like. I
was like really dreaming big. So I was like, oh
my god, like well done. And I was like, I'm
actually girl.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Amy's like, please go away.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
She already blocked you.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
No.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I played it cool, but I was like, we have
Ursula Carlson on the podcast tomorrow. She's so brilliant, That's
all I said. I was trying to play it cool.
She double tapped it, but I just checked she hasn't
written back yet.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Shame.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Maybe she's sending me a script.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
But that was a nice name drop that you put
in there as well.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, well yeah it made sense right, it's a connection
someone else from her film. We're promoting her film. I
thought she'd be I thought she would froth that we
you're promoting a film.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Well, if someone has worked on like all different because
you've done the small screen, you've now done the big screen,
you've done on stage, you've kind of done it all.
What is your favorite and then always stand up? Yeah,
it's so interesting to me because stand up seems to
be such an incredible vehicle for so many people, and
even especially in like Australian TV, which I know is
small frying comparison to like what is happening in the States,
(16:22):
but we get so much about talent from talented stand
up comedians and it seems like, you know, that pool
that we use in Australia, it's relatively small, but they're
all incredibly talented stand up comedians.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
They kind of get pulled in.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah. New Zealand's the same. It's like, well, we were
just talking about it before you get stand up comics
who want to get into television, and then you get
the stand up comics who do television to get more
people to these stand up much shows. Yeah, and so
that's the the two genres really that you get. But
there's a lot of people as soon as they get
into TV that never do stand up again. And it's
(16:56):
like that's your you know, that's like never training for
a mar and just running a marathon once a year.
If you just do television and don't stand up, is
the training that's the thing that keeps that muscle alive
that makes you go, I just talk shit for hours.
But some people, you know, it's just what your preference is,
I guess, But I just love how immediate stand up?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Is there an art in how you craft your jokes?
Like do you think that it's a learned trait that
you can that you can get better at and you know,
try it on people and go, Okay, that doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Tweak this, Like is that how it works for you?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Absolutely? Yeah? You know, like you don't even know. Some
numbers are funnier than others. Like if I say to you,
like you've got two kids or two and a half
but then if you say, like our neighbors have seven children,
seven is funnier than five. I don't know why, but
just sometimes.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Because it sounds insane, is inside No, I actually grew
up next to people who had seven children.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, Like it's like they never coming out of the house.
We couldn't fight them. We're like this to Mewhelmed here.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
That these are things that you learn along the way
that you can craft and turn into and again.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Realize, Well, like the first year that I was in
Common maybe even the first two years, I thought I
had to be this persona on stage, and then I
realized the audience can tell. They tell when you're bullshitting.
That's when I was like, I'm going very honest with
my audience from now on. I'm just going to be
who I am. Maybe a little heightened, but that's who
I am. And I think because people can tell, they're like,
(18:34):
that's not fucking real.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I was actually mentioning this to Keisha on our way
in today. We went to Husey's stand up show on
Sunday night, Saturday night and for me and I know
everyone's perception of like stand up comedy is very different.
But I think It's a really amazing craft when comedians
can turn the mundane, like a really simple task that
we all do that we all have to experience, into
something that is incredibly funny. But the funny comes from
(18:56):
the relatability of it. I remember at your show it
was something about fucking folding towels, and it was so
funny because I was like, that's what every couple has
had an argument about or something. It's it's taking those
small moments and really finding like, what's the relatability piece
in it?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
You know what, even when something happens and I go,
it's not really funny. Like on the movie they struggled
to keep my hair to color gray because my hair
just wants to go warm the whole time, right, And
so I had to go to this hairdresser the Garden
Central Park. It's a very flash hairdresser, and I've never
been to a hairdresser as flash as that, Like it's
(19:34):
real flash, and I just told Initially I was like this,
nothing funny happened, But then I just described every moment
of me being picked up in the car and feeling
like as soon as the car got there, because they
said they were going to send a car, and then
I just assumed it would be Uber. So I'm waiting
for a priest and then a brand new Mercedes pulls
up and I was like, oh, this is a lot
(19:55):
because I'm just in tracks of pants and a puffer jacket.
And then, you know, because it's February, New York, you know,
and then I get in and then the puffer. I'm
struggling to get out of the car because I want
to zip up the puffer. And how we struggle, you know,
like because it's I've had a big year, so I
can't get the puffer over this part. You know, this
part is the hardest part, you know, to get the
(20:16):
zipper because it's no give on a puffer. It's like
it's not you know, like a hoodie. So, you know,
just that struck. So what I thought was just nothing,
like a blip a throwaway line initially became like a
twenty five minute bit at the beginning of the show.
We'll just talk about having my hair colored at the salon.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Trying to get a puffer jacket on, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And drinking roast tea while I'm waiting. It was just, yeah,
it just becomes this massive thing and people go that
puffer jacket hair color store is my favorite, and I'm like, honestly,
when it just happened, it was literally I used it
as a throwaway in the first show, and then I realized,
why there's more there?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What's the difference if any in I guess the technique
or the way you deliver your humor and comedy from
a stand up to a movie set, because I imagine it's
a different technique and it's not quite the same.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, well, you can't be as big as you would
be on stage because there's other people. They'll look insane
if you just go as but also because it has
to be in a conversation, you know, so there's other people.
So but also I don't think stand up would work there.
It's like when people try and crowbars stand up into
a panel show. You can immediately tell you're like, what
(21:28):
are you doing? Why are you doing this prepared material?
It doesn't sound authentic, Like if you take say, have
you been paying attention? It's they play your clip. So
now this week would be it'll be Walterwall Peter Dutton
if the show was on right, and then if I
have an old bit of material about Peter Dutton and
I try and crowbar already in there. People go, it's
(21:49):
too polished. Yeah, it's not a conversation.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, but you can tell when some comedians have done
that or it's too prepared. But I would say, have
you been paying attention? Is like it's one of my
favorite ones because it feels the least scripted.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It feels the most because yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
You know, it's very off the cuff funny. Sometimes some
jokes don't land as well as others, but when they
do land, you're like, that was witty and very clever.
But then an Australian TV, I think the problem is
is because TV is so expensive to create, people want
to put a lot of safeguard parameters in it, and
so often there is a lot of overscripting that happens.
And you know, you talk about like people can smell
the bullshit and they can smell something that's fake and
in authentic, and I think that we can see that
(22:27):
when that's the case and things feel scripted and stifled,
and then you lose that creative edge. But it's because
of the risk taking and how adverse we are to it.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
But also I think there's with the responsibility lies on
the comedian like given, you know, going on the project,
if they go, we want to ask you these questions.
Me as a comic, I go, no, don't sit it
like that. Yeah, and don't lead me down that so
down that path. I will get us there quickly. Don't worry. Yeah,
(22:56):
like I promise, it'll be funny. Just set it up,
Just just ask the little question and I will take it. Yeah,
I will take it from there. I've got this. But
it's because I don't trust whoever's working on that side.
Don't trust this side like it's a whole well.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Because the setups just as important as like the run right.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, But it's like when you go on a show
like that or even on a radio show, you need
to trust who your guest is, right, and you need
to especially if you have that person you had me
on your show like a few times. You know, you
don't need to keep fucking leading me. Just give me
some shit or go with it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Especially when I said to Laura this morning, I was like,
I know we've got a big day, but you know,
Urschel will carry the whole interview.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
God, we're entering on card like honestly, thank god.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, when even this morning we were at the radio.
It's like, it's hard when they want to force it
into a way. It's like when you're talking to someone
who talks like this is our thing, Like let it happen.
Just let it generically happen. Don't try and over prepare
for it.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Well with that, with creating and being a part of
the movie from the like literally from the initial stages,
did you get to inject your humor into it? Did
you get to have control over the jokes or was
everything scripted for you?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
No? So it was scripted, But there's only two scripted
lines that I say in the movie, All off the Car.
I love it because everyone that I work with is
they're all comedians, so it's like, okay, this is sort
of and because I didn't have to carry the arc
of the story. Yeah, I was just a wildcat coming
in saying weird shit like I could smell Cautcaine. Was
(24:26):
that scripted?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
No, I said it, yeah, and like what have you
got on your locker? Eight ball nine ball? All the balls?
Like and that kid was so much fun, so I
could just say anything. But then on in the movie,
like even Tyler, the director, Amy Jelly whoever was would
just go, what would you say? And then we would
just go nuts and it was great. And so the
(24:47):
only two lines in there that's not mine is that
in the water when I say it's it's a girl
because the inside of the pinatas yeah. And when I
am with alpaca, oh yeah, and I go, that's why
it's so salty or something. But the rest even around that,
it's all that's.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
What you were milking it. You'd be looking at for
an hour.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
That's very funny. What was it like to.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Work with Amy? What do you think people would be
surprised to know about her? Because she's great on social media,
like she's very unfiltered, she's a very open book. But
what was like the biggest surprise for you? Do you
think she's.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Very like how can I say, like almost mama bear,
which I think I didn't expect, you know, sort of
I got sick and Lizzie Broadway got sick, like I
got the flu and she got stripped throat. She was
the one making us tea and you know, sort of
getting us food and stuff like that. We went out
for lunch or dinner nearly every second or third day.
(25:41):
You know, she was always making sure everyone's taken care of.
It's always like she went, well, this is her movie
and she got us all there, so she's going to
make sure that we're all having a good time. Yeah,
and so sort of that nurturing, you know, you kind
of don't think anyone at her level would give a
fuck what's going on.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I think you find with a lot of comedians. And
the reason I say this is because a lot of
comedians in private are not as funny as they are
when they're in public or when they're on a show
or on a stand up Like a lot of people
are quite reserved. And the first person comes to mind
for me is Rebel Wilson. Like in real life, Rebel
is is so reserved and quiet and quite a dry humor.
(26:20):
Was Amy also like that? Or she just she's just fine?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And I think what helped there is because most of
those people in the movie, the boys and the girls,
were all from Saturday Night Live. So they've had like
a twenty year career history where even if they haven't
worked together on a project, which some of them haven't,
but they've all worked with the same people on the
same shows, on the same you know, different times. So
then they go oh, you worked with so and so
(26:45):
on SNL and you did that show. Fuck, I love that.
And so it was just we No one ever sat
in their trailers. We were all just in the green
room playing games and it was really fun.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
What a cool project to be a part of.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
But also, like in you saying that, like how some
people have like they're on stage persona and then they're
off stage persona. I mean, and maybe this is like
a bias, but I feel like people who are very
good at comedy also have the ability to just be
funny people in their normal life, whereas some people step
into the character of it and then don't really have
that bone throughout their normal conversations. That definitely is not
(27:19):
the case for yours. You're always listen.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I honestly, when I meet people like that, I go,
You're so different on and off stage. I don't know
how it must be so draining. Do you have that
character all the time? I mean, good on you for
having the energy for it, But I dine, I'm just
this mental all the time. I'll be allowed to still
so mental.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
It's probably politically in correct, I reckon it's borderline, but
you can get away with it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, you're kicking closer because I have.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
A mental well.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I want to say, you're a pretty private and open
person simultaneously. I feel like they run concurrently. You're quite
private with your kids and your relationships until something big happens,
like a divorce or an engagement and divorce. We've been
through quite a lot in the last couple of years.
As we mentioned, when we left you a few years ago,
you were married and not yet divorced. So talk to
(28:08):
us about what's been happening in the eleve life.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Okay. So it sort of took a while to get
to the point where I was happy to tell because
I am very private. I don't, you know, share anything
about my home life on socials. But then when and
also I have to take my ex wife into consideration.
I don't just want to announce and she's not ready
and your kids. Yeah, so, you know, when we went
through the actual divorce, we'd already been separated for like
(28:33):
three and a half years at this point, and we
went through the actual divorce. Then I was like, Okay,
now I can write and you know, and nothing digging
into why, you know, like we're.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Just nothing still too personal.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, so then you know, it's just kind of I
wasn't looking to get into a relationship, and then I did.
I went back with someone that I was with twenty
years ago. We got back together, did you, I know,
from like what period of your life? Well, we actually
immigrated to New Zealand together.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Oh wow, So it was like like a big, substantial
relationship topper.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah. Yeah. And then we got back together because she
had a medical event and I was there for it,
and I.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Was like, you know, it is meant to be star.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah yeah, and I thought, you know, like everything has changed, yeah,
like we're older, we're wiser. Well we went older, you know,
we went wiser. Uh and then the wheels fell off again.
And I was like, okay, I cannot but but she proposed, like, okay,
when you've just been divorced, this is dear listener, you know,
(29:37):
when you're listening to this in your ear holes right now,
And if you've had a divorce and then someone goes,
do you want to get married again? Some motherfucking literally
not absolutely not. It's like eating leftovers out of someone
else's plate when you're ready to fall, or drinking the
next day when you've hung over. You're not like it's
not even on the arise. It's never a good neighbor,
(29:59):
like and don't even bring it up. It's fucking rude
if you've just met someone who got divorced and now
you go, it's in three months we should get married, bitch, Like, no.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Way, did you have reservations at the time or yes?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Like it was so because what do you do? And
so no, it's two days before Christmas. Let me set
the scene. Let me set this scene. Okay, two days
before Christmas, we'd already bought all the gifts under the tree.
And then she proposed to me while was sitting on
the couch, like you wouldn't see it coming. I was
(30:35):
sitting in shorts, which you should never propose to a
fact woman while she's wearing shorts. What do we take
a photos of it today? Anyway? So then she proposed
I don't even think I was wearing a bra anyway.
So then she proposed, you'll call a.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Guard, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
And I looked at it, oh, like, honestly, oh, it's yeah.
If I had subtitles that ran past the eyeballs and
would go, what the fuck is happening here? And I
just went yeah, Like I if someone saw as many
times as I did when I said yes, I would
have gone never mind, we can talk about this in
(31:11):
twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Do you know what?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I feel like a lot of people would relate to this,
maybe not from like a wedding perspective, but the amount
of times that people have been put on the spot
with someone saying I love you, and then they're just like,
I love you too, but I.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Don't know, and you just don't know what else to
say in return.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yes, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Someone told me they love me after five weeks and
I said, thanks, Oh see, that's.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Okay, But that's five weeks. Let's not forget I've known
this woman for all these years because even when we
went together, we remained friends Ryan and so now I'm
looking at this and I'm like, if I say no,
do I implode twenty odd years of you know, friendship too.
So there was a lot going on. So yeah, I
(31:54):
took the ring and I was like, okay, raally pullish
it together. But it was really hard because the whole
time like but she's also very possessive and jealous, so
I knew I couldn't sustain it. I couldn't live in
that environment because that's insane. Okay, it's insane better than mental.
I'm just checking this out.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
At this point, I think.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
No, so you go, I can't I travel too much.
I can't have someone insane at home going who you with?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Who those two sluts on the couch And I'm like,
hang on, now, hang on, it's pretty and Laura, goddamn it. Yeah,
I mean yeah, I mean fair for calling them sluts,
but pull up, mate, And then I just like I
knew it would sort itself out. I took the ring,
but I knew it would sort itself out, and I
knew it wasn't sustainable.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
It's also like unfair on yourself, Like if you know
that you're triggered by insecurities of someone who's out and
away and living a life that's separate to you, like
that's only going to exacerbate by the fact that you
live a life where you have to come to Australia,
you are overseas, you are traveling. Someone that you're in
a relationship with would need to have a lot of
sense of self security that you're not doing things that
(33:04):
you know.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But also, can I just say, like the first time
we were together, she kept cheating on me. That's why
we broke up. So I have never cheated, so she
doesn't even have the Yeah, she's projecting her shit onto me.
So I just got I knew. I knew it would
get to this. So can I just tell the breakup story?
Because I have never This is an exclusive. I was
(33:26):
going to put it in my show, but I think
it's too brutal, so I'm going to tell you. So
before I left, I had to do regional Victoria tour
and then some shows here in Sydney are also original
and so I was traveling all day. But before I left,
it was two weeks that I was away from home.
I rang my brother and I said, I'm leaving for
(33:47):
two weeks. She wasn't living with me, which is also
a great indicator that I wasn't ready. And I said
to my brother, I'm leaving. I want you to go
change the locks of my house. I kid, listen, listen.
So she doesn't know, but I knew what was coming. Right.
She had to find my thing on my phone and
(34:07):
then the whole time, she'll go, why were you like
in the middle of the night, I'm up in cans
where there's crocodiles in the water, and then the dot
for my phone three o'clock in the morning is in
the water outside the hotel, which a normal mind would go,
a satellite has been moving and that's why the dot
is moving into the water because I'm right on the water,
but I'm not. I'm asleep, and she goes, what at
(34:29):
the dot move? I go, I don't know, but I'm
definitely not in the water there there's crocodiles, and I
was I'm not swimming three o'clock in the morning when
the pool, although it tells on the other side anyway,
So then I knew she wouldn't be able to hold off.
So she was just howling me the whole time, where
are you? Who you were? And then always with the
video calls, and it was just it was a lot.
(34:49):
It was a lot. So then I'm in Sydney and
she's phones and she goes put it on video, who's there,
who's there? And just losing her mind. And I just
went and this is the best breakup I've ever had.
And I don't think I've ever want to be in
a relationship because I don't think I can redo this, Okay,
So she goes, who are you fucking? And I go,
(35:11):
I just brought my bags in and I'm trying to
make a cup of tea, and then I was going
to phone you, but I'm on video and I'm showing
her there's no one in the room but me and
the kettle going and she goes, I know you're seeing
someone else. I go, honestly, I don't, And then I said,
why the fuck am I defending myself here? I went,
I don't want to be with you anymore, and she goes,
(35:34):
we can talk about this when you get home. I go, no,
right now, I don't want to be with you ever,
like it's done. But knowing I've already had the Lockstown
because I knew this moment was coming, and she goes, she's, well,
I hope your next girlfriend. Knowing no, thank you, and
she goes what, I go, no, and she goes, I
hope your next partner. I go, listen, in said name here.
(35:56):
This is not an exit interview. You don't get to
have a sign and I hung up and I immediately
blocked on everything and that I've never spoken to again.
Isn't that the best last line? This is not an
excellent interview. You don't get to ever say hang up,
never speak to that. That is so brutal. Listen, she
put me through a lot of shit.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
But also like it's ah man, what a lesson in
that though, because when you think at the time, you
were like, I'm gonna say yes because it's twenty years
of friendship, it's this long history. You can have all
those things and give it another shot and it can
be the same thing that it was at the first.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Dance, because you know what, since the proposal to that
not an excellent interview, I was like, she was actually
a shitty friend. Why am I trying to keep this
friendship alive? And she was a shitty partner and she
was even when we were friends. She was always on
me about something, you know, and like she got you're
getting really fat. I'm like, what.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You're like, the Papa jacket still fits shut?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean it didn't. It didn't. That's probably where
it came from. Now we're not awake up in the
morning and a friend of mine said, I've at lunch.
She goes, you look so happy. I go, I am.
I am single. This is as long as I've ever
been single in my life. So that since July last
year to know, because and you know, like, it's not
(37:14):
that I need a relationship. It's just very difficult to
stay single when you're cute. So okay, you're producers losing
a ship, and I think that's offensive.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
No, it is a problem that I imagine you would
have to deal.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, you know, you and I the only two.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Right, it's a restaurant.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's also hard when you're codependent. So it's all right.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I don't think I've ever been single. I tell my
husband there was chep now yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Two and a half kids in what's it going to
tell him that all the time.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
I also tell him how financially terrible it is to divorce,
So I'm always like that, let him.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Call me if you tell.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
But how long were you together before she proposed?
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Oh no, it was less than a year.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It was like, and were there signs?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Oh yeah, likely, I'm I'm not victim. No, no, there
were like just the jealousy thing I should have immediately
like it was too and very controlling.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
But it's interesting and on a serious note, there is
something to be taken from that. But the idea that
we feel pressured into doing something like even the idea
where you I don't know if it's a bit of
the sunk cost fallacy where you're like, Okay, I've committed
to twenty years of friendship. We've started dating again. I
knew her before. I'm just going to say yes and
work it out. Like the idea of feeling pressured. I
(38:34):
don't know if you felt pressured to say yes at
that time, or I don't know if she was maybe
unintentionally or intentionally capitalizing on the fact that you were
going through a divorce. Maybe you your feelings were lower.
And I know it's a bit of but more of
a serious tone here, but I think that happens.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, And also because she would keep doing and I
guess I would think it too. She's like, we have
wasted all this in between years, and then the whole time,
I'm like, it wasn't really wasted. I got married and
I have lived a life, I started a new career,
I've got a whole thing, you know, Like there wasn't
a waste. The middle bit wasn't a waste. Like I
(39:08):
don't regret being married, I don't regret having kids, but
I also sort of saw that, you know, I'm not
in my twenties, I'm not dating around. I'm also questioning
when I do meet someone, I go, what is your
intent here?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I also think there's something really like there's something really
beautiful in getting to a place where you can be
very happy being single. And I think a lot of
us have been conditioned to think that you can only
be happy if you're in a relationship, like are you lonely?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Don't you need companionship?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
And I would say that for most people, if you're dating,
and you're dating someone where it's not the right relationship,
you will never feel more lonely, or more insane, or
more mental or any of these things. And being able
to be single and not have your feelings influenced by
someone else is like a very free space to be in.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Listen. I honestly, I wake up every morning and I go,
I feel like you know when I don't know if
you can remember like school holidays where you wake up
and you go you're so happy, you giggle and you're like,
it's just me. I think there's something else. I love that,
you know what I got since a break up and
(40:17):
I bought myself a whole new pots and pansy, I've
never been happy in my life.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I really thought you're about to say something else, but like.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, no, no, I've got a whole bag of decks
of packing the bag. No, I mean like just new kitchen,
where you go. This is more fulfilling right now. Yeah,
than any relationship I've had in the last you know,
four or five years.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
I'll tell you what I have nailed it. I'm getting married.
He's amazing, love of my life. He lives in another continent,
like he lives in I don't even see the guy.
But like, I get the best of both worlds because
I get it when I need it, and then I
still have my own space. Like I still wake up
giggling for multitude of reasons, but I still wake up giggling,
and I still have my own time, but I also
have someone to share it with. But you do you
(41:00):
feel like that you done and dusted for dating?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Like, do you want to meet someone else?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I'm not. Like I said to my manager this week,
I said, chances of you seeing a dinosaur is higher
than seeing me in a new relationship. Obviously, never say
never if I meet someone amazing, and you know, but
I'm definitely not looking Yeah, yeah, you know, and all
those skanks of my dms. Thank you for the news,
(41:25):
thank you for the nudes, but no one of your
jokes speaking of dicks and bags and stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
That's a really great segue. But you speak about how
we all need this one friend that if we die
vital or going into your room, get that one bag
and burn it so no one ever sees it. And
you said you got a little black bag under your bed.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I didn't say it was a little Charlie. Yeah, it's
actually j D. There's a Charlie under the bed, you
know in the garage. You go get it. There's some petrol,
just burn it or because it is. It's like you,
you know, like if you suddenly drop dead, like you
know happened to any of us, you don't want your
mum going in there sorting out your room.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
What's in your bag though, you're sand a sack, just.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
The normal you know, vibrators and Satisfied Pro. Listen pro
that's that's the model. Yeah, Satisfy a pro too is amazing.
Like if you don't have that, get that.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
The Satisfied Pro two. All right, well at a link.
No it's not sponsored. We won't all no, no.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
But I'm telling you and I say this, and I
feel like straight people are very reluctant to try six stories,
like I don't have to have got a husband. It's like, okay, babes,
but I'm not that dick can vibrate for eight hours
or satisfied. Pro's got a suction thing. Yeah, I've got.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
One of the suction things. Be aggressive sometimes it depends what.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Like you you're the one holding it, so that's you
that you're being rough with yourself.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Well, I don't know if you have the one with
the levels of suction.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Oh yeah, no I do, I do. Yeah. Yeah, it's
got a hickey when you're done your clips, like it's
actually your show.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
You're coming here for a proper to July August?
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Is that? How do you go? Straight up?
Speaker 4 (43:17):
I don't know if we're going to sit in the
clip sitting here with Yeah, you're having your clips sucked
off by a machine.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
So I'll join you a second picture. I was like,
I need a minute, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
We're here in a van.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
You would you?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh good, guys, I'm good anyway, moving round along.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, July August, you're coming to Australia, you're coming.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
No, I don't travel with that boy. How can people
get your tickets? Tell us where to go? I'll just
go on my website, Carson dot com.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Okay, good Chota, thanks.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
No, we can't wait to see We're hoping you swing
us two tickets because we're stingy. No, can's fine, but.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I'll on the beaches again.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Don't worry, No, I will get you down the front.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
You know why we say that because last time Laura
was in the nosebleeds, like she couldn't have been further away.
But that's because it will sell out show.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, well that one has already sold out, the ICC one,
the eight thousand C one.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
So do you have tickets for that for us?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Then that's crazy eight thousand people in a room.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
It's also crazy because, like I mean, going to that show,
even though there were that many people sitting there, and
I thought it was five thousand at the time, but
eight thousand, like, it still felt incredibly personal, like and
I make jokes about us being up in the bleachers,
which we were, but it did not feel as though
there was a huge amount of separation between us and
the stories you were telling.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Yeah, so that I think I because we've got the
big massive Yeah, okay, so that makes it. But also
I had a friend who was in there because I
was worried about that too. And then afterwards she said
to me, she goes, and honestly felt like you were
talking just to me, she goes, I was watching on
the screen, I was watching you down there, and I
just felt like we were having a chat. And I
was like, that's exactly what you want, what I want.
(44:57):
That's sort of my style too. No, so there's and
I actually said, because I'm doing a show at the
fore court of the Opera House, and then I said,
it's only five thousand people only. It's crazy that that's
what the audiences have become in Sydney, where suddenly it's
just that's only. Yeah, Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne have just gone crazy.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Did you see a tipping point where the audience scale
just blew up or has it been this slow, gradual
build like, because like you know, when you you might
have booked out a booked out a show somewhere and
been like wow, I didn't expect to book that one out,
and then you're like, well, let's like increase the capacity,
Like was it something that happened just kind of progressively,
or was there one big catalyst that meant that the
audience exploded.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, well, I mean it's sort of every year that
I've been in Melbourne, I've sold out every show. So
the first year I came, I did a twenty seater
in Melbourne, the Carvert Room at Fourum sold out. Yeah, yeah,
it was hard, but yes. And then the next year
because then I signed up with Beck who I'm still worth,
my manager, and then and she put me in a
(46:00):
sixty seater at town Hall. And then the year after that,
I was in one hundred seedar and then that's so
it's almost like it doubled every year. And then we
went from there to one hundred and fifty seedter at
the Swiss Club. And then at the end of it,
because we sold everything out, we put one extra show
on at Forum and there was a five hundred or
eight eight eight hundred, eight hundred Seedar and then once
(46:23):
we did that eight hundred seater. It's almost like you
know when you have a dog that tries to jump
over the fence and then one day it gets over
the fence and then you're fucked. You can never keep
that dog in and will find a way out. That's
what it became. Like I was the football that found
a way over the fence. Because then after that I
started playing town Hall Main Room every night for like
(46:44):
twenty three shows in a row for four or five years.
And now I'm doing the Palais. Yeah. And then but
then the same Sydney started like one hundred and eighty
seedter and then it just now I'm in the eight
thousand Cedar. Oh it's already sold out five months before
we get here. Wow, So now we had to add.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
You're putting some more shows on?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, Taylor Swift, there we go.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Hey, you know what we didn't ask you. Adam Sandler
was the producer on the Netflix movie Crack. Did you
get to like engage with him, meet him a lot? Like?
What's he like?
Speaker 3 (47:16):
He's really nice. He's quite shy and but very family dude,
and he calls me buddy. Yeah pretty in Yeah, I reckon.
I mean he spoke to me once. I think that's enough.
But it was very complimentary, really nice. His wife Jackie's
lovely too. Yeah. Yeah, they're all just really nice, down
to earth. I can't we go. He's like one of
(47:38):
the richest dudes in the entertainment in the street. I
think he's the highest paid comic. Yeah, and like four
hundred millionaire. But he's in tracks of pants and sneakers
and he's like, hey, buddy, you're very funny. But they're
just so down to earth. His wife too, She was
sitting at one stage, just at my little area, and
my manager didn't even know that was her sitting there.
(48:00):
And she's just sitting there rubbing her feet, you know,
because one's in their heels. Yeah, this chucking. It was
just but they but the whole family was there. Yeah,
like that's really good.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
So do you want to is that something you want
to do now more that you've sort of dabbled in
a little bit, do you want to start to do
more film?
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Yeah? I mean, okay, this is my dream scenario. The
first three months, in the last three months of the year,
and then the middle too, I do a movie and
then the rest of the time I just sit at
home money and then I get someone like an assistant
that just keeps them all charged at all times. But
(48:39):
you yeah, that's that's Beck. She takes about the driver
and hoses the wharf once a week.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
The cossuction's broken in this one.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
You are the best. I can't wait for a round
three when you join this podcast in three years time.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
We should we put bets on what my relationships this
will be.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
I reckon you'll being engaged again man or woman or
no what else I'm going man, I mean sorry, no women.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Look, I would love to say just happily single, but
I reckon you'll probably be engaged.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
And bangles of bring.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
You're giving needy So I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
I joke this bitcher. After this, I'm gonna go. So
we stopped recording, And.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Thank you so much for sharing as well. And I
know it's it's a pretty big deal for you to
talk about your personal life and we do appreciate it.
You are brilliant. We could not love you more. Definitely
will have you back on again and you.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Can have freak checho. Yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, congrat someone of the successes. It's really really cool
to see.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Thank you, thanks, thanks for having me
This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life
on Cut. I'm Brittany, I'm Laura today. I am so
excited about our guest. She's not new to Life on Cut.
In fact, we did have her on the podcast three
years ago, which seems crazy, the one and only Ursula Carlson.
Now we interview you about a bunch of stuff three
years ago, but you've done a lot in the interim.
(00:33):
You've become a Hollywood star alongside Amy Schumer in Almost Pregnant,
which kind of pregnant, sorry, kind of pregnant.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It might be Almost Pregnant, Almost.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Kind of Pregnant, which had like twenty five million streams
on Netflix. It was I think it was one of
the highest grossing yeah films.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I think at the last count when I stopped opening emails,
it was just over fifteen million. Were nuts?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, Ill, either you get to a point where you're like,
I don't bother to open the email.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
No, because it's like, I don't you know what It's
not even that I get arrogant about it is because
I don't understand what it means.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah, fact, I mean I hear uber famous no, I
get it, but it's like, also, you have to account
in people's facility to maintaining that attention span because people
just look at me and I can tell they're like
the fuck they're not you from and.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You can see it in their eyes. And you can't
say to someone at the daily counter, yeah, I was
in a movie.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I don't don'try if you've been viewed fifty million times,
that is the biggest flex. If someone looks sideways at me,
I'd be like, yeah, almost kind of pregnant. I'd be like, no,
can you just pass me the tuner? I'd be seen
it left, right and center.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
There's a lot more merit to that than people looking
at you like they have some vague recognition and you're like, yeah,
I was on The Bachelor seven years ago. So this
is what we have to do with is more embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I mean when you say it like that, I hear
you and I take it on board.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, you've just also finished your successful run of Melbourne
International Comedy Festival shows and you are at the start
of your tour. We were just talking you going in
North America, your UK, New Zealand, Ireland, Australia. So we're
going to get into all of that. I absolutely can't wait.
You've also had a divorce in interim.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, the divorce comes through would have been
about two three years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well, no, what happened?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I mean something you guys don't know from listening to
the last interview that we did with Ursula. So we
sat down, we had this great chat, talked about your childhood,
talked about everything guns, like shows, kids, guns, There was
a lot going on in that show.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And then Grenade sorry producer Keisha's like, we spoke about Grenade.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh yeah, it was growing up. I mean like, yeah,
a different time.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And then we stopped record And at the end of
that episode you said we stopped recording now and I
was like, yep, and you go, I couldn't say it,
but yeah, I'm in the middle of a divorce at
the moment. You're like, it's not really well known, but
I've got a comedy show coming out about it soon,
so everyone will know. How do you find talking about
your personal life and like.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Big, like very hard things.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Actually, I'm filtered.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I know we're coming back to it, but I'm gone
taking a segue. How do you find turning that then?
Into comedy or is everything like, is there anything that's
off limits?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You know what? I okay, the only things I want
joke about is rape and abuse, right, But I honestly
think like I talk about my divorce, I talk about
my relationship failing, I talk about my weight, I talk
about everything that's happening in my life. I talk about
because I think we all can relate to everything. My
mom just got diagnosed. With all times I've chucked that in,
(03:25):
I talk about that in the show, but I did
ask her. I said to her, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
She doesn't remember you talk about it. You're allowed.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
No, you'd hope she forgets everything, But no, she's still
she because she can hype or fixate on some stuff.
So when I did the previous show, I said to it,
can I because some of this stuff is so funny,
And I said to can I use this stuff? So
she said, yeah, you can use that and that, but
not that, not that too. The stuff She's like absolutely not,
So goa, I want to use it, but she goes,
(03:53):
you can tell your friends. So I tell the audience
now I say, I want to tell you. I said,
there's two other things that I think is the funniest bits.
But I'm not I have to tell it because mom said,
I said, but you have to make friends with me.
In about five to seven years, I'll tell you the Joe.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So come back in five to seven years. Yeah, playing
a hard, long game.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, I just think because there's so many people who
come to the show every year, and so they knew
when I got engaged. I told him, when I got married,
I told him when we're having babies. It's in my material.
So now, of course divorce is part of it. We
all go through it, you know, if you're lucky enough.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And I'm not married yet, but I look forward to
the divorce.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's a good time. It's a good time. So yeah,
So then I got divorced, and I said, I'm going
to tell them. I don't want to. I can't lie
to my audience. I think, Yeah, people know they can
sense bullshit. Yeah, and so I'm not what am I
going to do for the next five years talk about
a wife I don't have.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But it's also where you mind your content from, right,
Like you have to get the content from what you're
living every single day. We do it the same year,
like Laura did her gender reveal, for her new baby
on air live, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
That's what you got to do.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You've got to give him something.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Right, Yeah, yeah, but it's true. It's like, well, you're
going to talk about it, You're going to talk about
it down the track totally as well.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, I know we are about to get into what
we already have. But you always have the most brilliant stories.
Can you kickstart with an accidentally unfiltered and embarrassing story?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, I actually because it's very hard for me to
find anything that's embarrassing, because I'm unashamed of everything I've
ever done, but this one. So I used to open
for Chelsea Handler. Whenever she'd be in Auckland Order, I'd
go open for her. But I also did heaps of
other stuff with her, like I know her, I have
a phone number. We've seen messages to each other. We
(05:35):
did some right.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Message you sent to Chelsea Handler for the fiftieth birthday.
I said, happy birthday, you slut, and.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
She said out your mom. Yeah yeah, And so we
were just you know, sort of back and forth, back
and forth anyway. But when she came to New Zealand
the last time, I said, look, I can't open for
you again. Get someone else to overview. I go but
a week and go for dinner, and then we go,
but I wait for her after the show, watch the show.
Then after the show, I waite for but I'm standing
outside her dressing room and she's inside finishing up. And
(06:06):
but it's me to a manager, Tom, And there's two
cleaning ladies waiting with like buckets and mops and you know,
and blue overalls so that she can leave and they
can go clean the dressing room. So Chelsea walks out.
Now I'm just sitting here on the right against the wall.
She walks straight out, straight across to the cleaning lady
and she goes, good to see you, and then she
(06:29):
hugs her like like full you know that pull underneath,
like pull against like full ted on Ted hugged with
this woman and immediately to a manager. Tom wanted to
stop this, and I was like, no, let's see where
this goes. And then but as soon as she hugged
the cleaner, the cleaner immediately hugged her back, clearly knowing
(06:51):
her name is not Ursh What the hell are you doing?
Like if someone goes Susan, I'm not Susan. It's Chelsea
Handler your fucking hands off, yo. But but she immediately
embraced her back right, and she closed her eyes during
the hug, and I was like, I don't know what
this witch has been through, but she needed this hug.
You could tell she needed this right. And then I'm
(07:13):
looking at her and she's sort of smiling, and and
she's smiling at me. And in that moment, I'm like,
this is kind of embarrassing for both of us. Yeah,
like it's embarrassing for her because Chelsea thought she was me.
But this woman was fit like Jesus eye twelve and
she's must like you can tell. She goes to the
gym and she makes physical work and she's you know,
(07:35):
And I'm like, okay, so that's you know, offensive to her.
But then when she smiled, I said, she only had
one tooth in her mouth, a black one like, and
I thought, that's you know, and it was at the bottom.
She's hanging one at the bottom. Yeah, it wasn't a
bad way. You could tell her it hours left in
that mouth. So then I said, I just pointed to
(07:58):
Tom and he goes, Chelsea isla, and I'm like, and
then she turned around and she goes and then just
hugged me like that.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Never happened, Like it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So I was just watching the cleaning lady over her shoulders,
just smiling at her with my white all the tea yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
On both on both upper and lower.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
But then I said afterwards, like, how's the fuck we're
having dinner? I go, so, how the fuck do you
mistake me for that lady? She's got a mop in
a bucket? She goes, well, every time I see you've
got something in your hand, it's a fucking microphone. But
this is why.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And I did it to you this morning.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I'd be more offended than you're. Like, Bro, I've opened
to you.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So many times, how do you not recognize me? But
I ran into Urshula this morning, like hours and hours
hours ago, and I haven't seen you in the flesh
I mean Instagram, but I'm seeing in the flesh since
our last record. And sometimes when something's out of context
because I run into you in a coffee shop, you
want to like preface who you are really quickly, just
like she's.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Not gonna have it.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
She's gonna think I'm a super fan that's coming up.
And I was like USh, I was like Hey, it's
been so long, haven't seen since like a podcast record
three years breaking.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It's like you really need to say who.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
You are to keep the content, but not just that, like.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
People who have sent me a message. There was a
woman today. I went to the Opera House on the
steps to do some recording, and this woman came up
and she goes, I send you a message about your
mom on Instagram. I was like, you're like, what, Like,
I can't even tell you how many people have sent
me messages about my mum or about my family or
my house or you know, like people send stuff all
(09:28):
the time. And because I answer all of them, and
she goes, no, you responded. I'm like, I literally responded
to eighteen people while I was sitting on the step here.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You're incredible. So you respond to every DM that you receive?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, unless you can tell their fucking cray, how do you?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I mean that to me is remarkable because I honestly
don't know how you have the time, amongst everything that
you do to write back to every person.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Like that's such a that's such a timehole.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Maybe I don't get as many as you think.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I reckon you do.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Somebody's having fifty million views on TV shows getting more
than what I am and I find challenging.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, like I just I mean, I don't always like
sometimes I just send them a love heart or your
thumbs up or I just to recognize that they've same
pair message.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You take the time.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, but if people talk to me, I talk back
to them. So some people have actually become friends with
It's really from Instagram, but like that.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Just so you can then tell the content about your
Mommy mom said go make friends.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And trying to get that joke out.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, you have been really busy. As we said, you
have since become a movie star with fifty million views
on Netflix alongside Amy Humor. How did it happen? How
did you go from being stand up comedian too Amy
asking you to be in seeing this Hollywood film.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I think it's just stand up to stand up again.
It's like because when my special came out on Netflix
and twenty twenty, I was in quarantine here in Sydney,
and she shared the clip and she goes, guys, go
watch us, this bitch is hilarious. And I replied on
you know, and I said, hi, thanks for reposting that,
and then she goes anytime, so we we sort of
(11:00):
stayed in touch. Whenever she did something, i'd say, you
know and she or if I did a clip, she'd
send a message. And then I woke up. I think
it's like the second or the third of February last year,
and I had a message on my phone from her saying, hey,
can you act give me a call? I think I've
got the perfect role for you, and her phone number,
and I was like, should I wait? Normally i'd wait play. No, Normally,
(11:23):
I like, I don't answer those I wait for my
I'll send it to my manager with a screenshot and
go do this this. Yeah, I don't know, you know.
And then I thought, fuck, it's Amy and because we've chatted,
and then she.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Can see you've seen it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So now I was It's three o'clock in the morning,
and normally I wouldn't touch my phone during the night,
but something, you know, when that little voice go check
your phone, check your fine, I'm like, I'm not checking
my phone, and it's like, dude, just check your phone,
you know. And I wonder how much water compelicans hold,
and you know, it's just all these questions, and I
was like, fuck, So I checked and then I said
I was just gonna ring it, and I just clicked
(11:57):
and as soon it didn't even ring, she just went
eshler yes, and then she goes, can you act. I
go yeah, I mean it was in a closet for
twenty six years. Half can And then and then she's like,
I'm going to send you the script. So she sent
me the script. You like, don't send it. I'm in whatever, yeah, yeah, whatever.
So then I read. I started reading and she goes
(12:18):
read it and call me. So I read it. But
then my son seven comes and he gets in bed
with me, and I'm like, okay, now it's full thirty.
I need to sleep because I still have to get
up and get these kids to school in the morning,
and I still have to do the whole parenting thing.
It's I'm like, oh well, so I put it on
do not serve. I sleep. The next morning, seven o'clock,
turn my phone on. She wrings me. She goes, what
(12:38):
did you think? And I said, oh no, I loved it.
She goes, okay, so what we need is we need
to do a read through. We need to go okay, mate,
I just need to give my kids off to school.
She goes, how long do you need. I go give
me two and a half hours. She goes, all right,
I'm sending you a zoom link. So then I went,
dropped the kids at school, came back, hopped on the
zoom am. I I was still in my tracksuit, pans
(13:00):
and a T shirt here and then when she was
sitting in bed, so I'm like, oh, thank god. And
then we did a read through, and Tyler Swindell, the director,
was in a car on his way somewhere. I did
a read through. She goes, this is great, We're going
to do an audition. She'd already booked everything in. And
then I was waiting for my manager to wake up,
(13:21):
because you know, then like to sleep in those lazers.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You already booked yourself a job before they even knew
you got a screw.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah. I was like, you got to wake up. I
got her job.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I'm like, have I got to give you twenty percent
of this? I've done all the groundwork already.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Listen what I mean twenty percent? Listen, this is just
a shadow to everyone and my managers sitting in the
back of the fifteen percent, this standard fifteen percent more
than enough. Twelve yeah, drop down, it's a Wales area. No,
but because I don't know anything, like I didn't know
any of the lingo that I didn't even know what
(13:53):
to read through was initially I had to google it.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It's so frustrating to listen to you because that is
the stuff dreams are made of. A superstar sliding into
your dam being like hey, being this film and you're
like yeah, okay, like that is incredible, But can I
just want to flex something? Amy Schumer was in my
dam was last night? Was she yeah, actually we see
a shirt back? She posted me on a story last night.
(14:17):
I'm currently I'm currently on Amy Schumer's story. Well, I
watched kind of Pregnant kind of almost almost up the dark.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, you feel just.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Kind of pregnant?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Is actually anyway, there was one particular scene that Amy
was in where I haven't laughed this is you were
in funny scenes too, but this one scene I haven't
laughed so hard like I was. I was winning myself
out loud. And it was the scene where he was
trying to go down on us. So she's if you
haven't seen it, it's so funny. He's laying down, he's blindfolded,
he's not allowed to us. She's trying. I'm sorry, listener, listen.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I was like, no, I don't know, guys, go have
you seen it? Seen it? I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It was awkward that we were making no and she's
trying to sit on space and it is just so
fucking funny. And I took a photo of it and
I just put it on my Instagram and I was like,
this is the funniest, most understated comedic scene I have
seen in so long at Amy Humor. And then just
go watch it. And she reposted it anyway. I wrote
(15:15):
to it, let me check if she's in back. She
wouldn't have. I was like, oh my gosh, she wrote
to me. So I was like, let me take this
opportunity because maybe then she'll investigate see that I'm an actor,
and then maybe she'll ask me onto something like. I
was like really dreaming big. So I was like, oh
my god, like well done. And I was like, I'm
actually girl.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Amy's like, please go away.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
She already blocked you.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
No.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I played it cool, but I was like, we have
Ursula Carlson on the podcast tomorrow. She's so brilliant, That's
all I said. I was trying to play it cool.
She double tapped it, but I just checked she hasn't
written back yet.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Shame.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Maybe she's sending me a script.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
But that was a nice name drop that you put
in there as well.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, well yeah it made sense right, it's a connection
someone else from her film. We're promoting her film. I
thought she'd be I thought she would froth that we
you're promoting a film.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Well, if someone has worked on like all different because
you've done the small screen, you've now done the big screen,
you've done on stage, you've kind of done it all.
What is your favorite and then always stand up? Yeah,
it's so interesting to me because stand up seems to
be such an incredible vehicle for so many people, and
even especially in like Australian TV, which I know is
small frying comparison to like what is happening in the States,
(16:22):
but we get so much about talent from talented stand
up comedians and it seems like, you know, that pool
that we use in Australia, it's relatively small, but they're
all incredibly talented stand up comedians.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
They kind of get pulled in.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah. New Zealand's the same. It's like, well, we were
just talking about it before you get stand up comics
who want to get into television, and then you get
the stand up comics who do television to get more
people to these stand up much shows. Yeah, and so
that's the the two genres really that you get. But
there's a lot of people as soon as they get
into TV that never do stand up again. And it's
(16:56):
like that's your you know, that's like never training for
a mar and just running a marathon once a year.
If you just do television and don't stand up, is
the training that's the thing that keeps that muscle alive
that makes you go, I just talk shit for hours.
But some people, you know, it's just what your preference is,
I guess, But I just love how immediate stand up?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Is there an art in how you craft your jokes?
Like do you think that it's a learned trait that
you can that you can get better at and you know,
try it on people and go, Okay, that doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Tweak this, Like is that how it works for you?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Absolutely? Yeah? You know, like you don't even know. Some
numbers are funnier than others. Like if I say to you,
like you've got two kids or two and a half
but then if you say, like our neighbors have seven children,
seven is funnier than five. I don't know why, but
just sometimes.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Because it sounds insane, is inside No, I actually grew
up next to people who had seven children.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, Like it's like they never coming out of the house.
We couldn't fight them. We're like this to Mewhelmed here.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
That these are things that you learn along the way
that you can craft and turn into and again.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Realize, Well, like the first year that I was in
Common maybe even the first two years, I thought I
had to be this persona on stage, and then I
realized the audience can tell. They tell when you're bullshitting.
That's when I was like, I'm going very honest with
my audience from now on. I'm just going to be
who I am. Maybe a little heightened, but that's who
I am. And I think because people can tell, they're like,
(18:34):
that's not fucking real.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I was actually mentioning this to Keisha on our way
in today. We went to Husey's stand up show on
Sunday night, Saturday night and for me and I know
everyone's perception of like stand up comedy is very different.
But I think It's a really amazing craft when comedians
can turn the mundane, like a really simple task that
we all do that we all have to experience, into
something that is incredibly funny. But the funny comes from
(18:56):
the relatability of it. I remember at your show it
was something about fucking folding towels, and it was so
funny because I was like, that's what every couple has
had an argument about or something. It's it's taking those
small moments and really finding like, what's the relatability piece
in it?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
You know what, even when something happens and I go,
it's not really funny. Like on the movie they struggled
to keep my hair to color gray because my hair
just wants to go warm the whole time, right, And
so I had to go to this hairdresser the Garden
Central Park. It's a very flash hairdresser, and I've never
been to a hairdresser as flash as that, Like it's
(19:34):
real flash, and I just told Initially I was like this,
nothing funny happened, But then I just described every moment
of me being picked up in the car and feeling
like as soon as the car got there, because they
said they were going to send a car, and then
I just assumed it would be Uber. So I'm waiting
for a priest and then a brand new Mercedes pulls
up and I was like, oh, this is a lot
(19:55):
because I'm just in tracks of pants and a puffer jacket.
And then, you know, because it's February, New York, you know,
and then I get in and then the puffer. I'm
struggling to get out of the car because I want
to zip up the puffer. And how we struggle, you know,
like because it's I've had a big year, so I
can't get the puffer over this part. You know, this
part is the hardest part, you know, to get the
(20:16):
zipper because it's no give on a puffer. It's like
it's not you know, like a hoodie. So, you know,
just that struck. So what I thought was just nothing,
like a blip a throwaway line initially became like a
twenty five minute bit at the beginning of the show.
We'll just talk about having my hair colored at the salon.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Trying to get a puffer jacket on, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And drinking roast tea while I'm waiting. It was just, yeah,
it just becomes this massive thing and people go that
puffer jacket hair color store is my favorite, and I'm like, honestly,
when it just happened, it was literally I used it
as a throwaway in the first show, and then I realized,
why there's more there?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What's the difference if any in I guess the technique
or the way you deliver your humor and comedy from
a stand up to a movie set, because I imagine it's
a different technique and it's not quite the same.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, well, you can't be as big as you would
be on stage because there's other people. They'll look insane
if you just go as but also because it has
to be in a conversation, you know, so there's other people.
So but also I don't think stand up would work there.
It's like when people try and crowbars stand up into
a panel show. You can immediately tell you're like, what
(21:28):
are you doing? Why are you doing this prepared material?
It doesn't sound authentic, Like if you take say, have
you been paying attention? It's they play your clip. So
now this week would be it'll be Walterwall Peter Dutton
if the show was on right, and then if I
have an old bit of material about Peter Dutton and
I try and crowbar already in there. People go, it's
(21:49):
too polished. Yeah, it's not a conversation.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, but you can tell when some comedians have done
that or it's too prepared. But I would say, have
you been paying attention? Is like it's one of my
favorite ones because it feels the least scripted.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It feels the most because yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
You know, it's very off the cuff funny. Sometimes some
jokes don't land as well as others, but when they
do land, you're like, that was witty and very clever.
But then an Australian TV, I think the problem is
is because TV is so expensive to create, people want
to put a lot of safeguard parameters in it, and
so often there is a lot of overscripting that happens.
And you know, you talk about like people can smell
the bullshit and they can smell something that's fake and
in authentic, and I think that we can see that
(22:27):
when that's the case and things feel scripted and stifled,
and then you lose that creative edge. But it's because
of the risk taking and how adverse we are to it.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
But also I think there's with the responsibility lies on
the comedian like given, you know, going on the project,
if they go, we want to ask you these questions.
Me as a comic, I go, no, don't sit it
like that. Yeah, and don't lead me down that so
down that path. I will get us there quickly. Don't worry. Yeah,
(22:56):
like I promise, it'll be funny. Just set it up,
Just just ask the little question and I will take it. Yeah,
I will take it from there. I've got this. But
it's because I don't trust whoever's working on that side.
Don't trust this side like it's a whole well.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Because the setups just as important as like the run right.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, But it's like when you go on a show
like that or even on a radio show, you need
to trust who your guest is, right, and you need
to especially if you have that person you had me
on your show like a few times. You know, you
don't need to keep fucking leading me. Just give me
some shit or go with it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Especially when I said to Laura this morning, I was like,
I know we've got a big day, but you know,
Urschel will carry the whole interview.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
God, we're entering on card like honestly, thank god.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, when even this morning we were at the radio.
It's like, it's hard when they want to force it
into a way. It's like when you're talking to someone
who talks like this is our thing, Like let it happen.
Just let it generically happen. Don't try and over prepare
for it.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Well with that, with creating and being a part of
the movie from the like literally from the initial stages,
did you get to inject your humor into it? Did
you get to have control over the jokes or was
everything scripted for you?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
No? So it was scripted, But there's only two scripted
lines that I say in the movie, All off the Car.
I love it because everyone that I work with is
they're all comedians, so it's like, okay, this is sort
of and because I didn't have to carry the arc
of the story. Yeah, I was just a wildcat coming
in saying weird shit like I could smell Cautcaine. Was
(24:26):
that scripted?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
No, I said it, yeah, and like what have you
got on your locker? Eight ball nine ball? All the balls?
Like and that kid was so much fun, so I
could just say anything. But then on in the movie,
like even Tyler, the director, Amy Jelly whoever was would
just go, what would you say? And then we would
just go nuts and it was great. And so the
(24:47):
only two lines in there that's not mine is that
in the water when I say it's it's a girl
because the inside of the pinatas yeah. And when I
am with alpaca, oh yeah, and I go, that's why
it's so salty or something. But the rest even around that,
it's all that's.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
What you were milking it. You'd be looking at for
an hour.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
That's very funny. What was it like to.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Work with Amy? What do you think people would be
surprised to know about her? Because she's great on social media,
like she's very unfiltered, she's a very open book. But
what was like the biggest surprise for you? Do you
think she's.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Very like how can I say, like almost mama bear,
which I think I didn't expect, you know, sort of
I got sick and Lizzie Broadway got sick, like I
got the flu and she got stripped throat. She was
the one making us tea and you know, sort of
getting us food and stuff like that. We went out
for lunch or dinner nearly every second or third day.
(25:41):
You know, she was always making sure everyone's taken care of.
It's always like she went, well, this is her movie
and she got us all there, so she's going to
make sure that we're all having a good time. Yeah,
and so sort of that nurturing, you know, you kind
of don't think anyone at her level would give a
fuck what's going on.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I think you find with a lot of comedians. And
the reason I say this is because a lot of
comedians in private are not as funny as they are
when they're in public or when they're on a show
or on a stand up Like a lot of people
are quite reserved. And the first person comes to mind
for me is Rebel Wilson. Like in real life, Rebel
is is so reserved and quiet and quite a dry humor.
(26:20):
Was Amy also like that? Or she just she's just fine?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And I think what helped there is because most of
those people in the movie, the boys and the girls,
were all from Saturday Night Live. So they've had like
a twenty year career history where even if they haven't
worked together on a project, which some of them haven't,
but they've all worked with the same people on the
same shows, on the same you know, different times. So
then they go oh, you worked with so and so
(26:45):
on SNL and you did that show. Fuck, I love that.
And so it was just we No one ever sat
in their trailers. We were all just in the green
room playing games and it was really fun.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
What a cool project to be a part of.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
But also, like in you saying that, like how some
people have like they're on stage persona and then they're
off stage persona. I mean, and maybe this is like
a bias, but I feel like people who are very
good at comedy also have the ability to just be
funny people in their normal life, whereas some people step
into the character of it and then don't really have
that bone throughout their normal conversations. That definitely is not
(27:19):
the case for yours. You're always listen.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I honestly, when I meet people like that, I go,
You're so different on and off stage. I don't know
how it must be so draining. Do you have that
character all the time? I mean, good on you for
having the energy for it, But I dine, I'm just
this mental all the time. I'll be allowed to still
so mental.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
It's probably politically in correct, I reckon it's borderline, but
you can get away with it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, you're kicking closer because I have.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
A mental well.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I want to say, you're a pretty private and open
person simultaneously. I feel like they run concurrently. You're quite
private with your kids and your relationships until something big happens,
like a divorce or an engagement and divorce. We've been
through quite a lot in the last couple of years.
As we mentioned, when we left you a few years ago,
you were married and not yet divorced. So talk to
(28:08):
us about what's been happening in the eleve life.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Okay. So it sort of took a while to get
to the point where I was happy to tell because
I am very private. I don't, you know, share anything
about my home life on socials. But then when and
also I have to take my ex wife into consideration.
I don't just want to announce and she's not ready
and your kids. Yeah, so, you know, when we went
through the actual divorce, we'd already been separated for like
(28:33):
three and a half years at this point, and we
went through the actual divorce. Then I was like, Okay,
now I can write and you know, and nothing digging
into why, you know, like we're.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Just nothing still too personal.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, so then you know, it's just kind of I
wasn't looking to get into a relationship, and then I did.
I went back with someone that I was with twenty
years ago. We got back together, did you, I know,
from like what period of your life? Well, we actually
immigrated to New Zealand together.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Oh wow, So it was like like a big, substantial
relationship topper.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah. Yeah. And then we got back together because she
had a medical event and I was there for it,
and I.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Was like, you know, it is meant to be star.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah yeah, and I thought, you know, like everything has changed, yeah,
like we're older, we're wiser. Well we went older, you know,
we went wiser. Uh and then the wheels fell off again.
And I was like, okay, I cannot but but she proposed, like, okay,
when you've just been divorced, this is dear listener, you know,
(29:37):
when you're listening to this in your ear holes right now,
And if you've had a divorce and then someone goes,
do you want to get married again? Some motherfucking literally
not absolutely not. It's like eating leftovers out of someone
else's plate when you're ready to fall, or drinking the
next day when you've hung over. You're not like it's
not even on the arise. It's never a good neighbor,
(29:59):
like and don't even bring it up. It's fucking rude
if you've just met someone who got divorced and now
you go, it's in three months we should get married, bitch, Like, no.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Way, did you have reservations at the time or yes?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Like it was so because what do you do? And
so no, it's two days before Christmas. Let me set
the scene. Let me set this scene. Okay, two days
before Christmas, we'd already bought all the gifts under the tree.
And then she proposed to me while was sitting on
the couch, like you wouldn't see it coming. I was
(30:35):
sitting in shorts, which you should never propose to a
fact woman while she's wearing shorts. What do we take
a photos of it today? Anyway? So then she proposed
I don't even think I was wearing a bra anyway.
So then she proposed, you'll call a.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Guard, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
And I looked at it, oh, like, honestly, oh, it's yeah.
If I had subtitles that ran past the eyeballs and
would go, what the fuck is happening here? And I
just went yeah, Like I if someone saw as many
times as I did when I said yes, I would
have gone never mind, we can talk about this in
(31:11):
twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Do you know what?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I feel like a lot of people would relate to this,
maybe not from like a wedding perspective, but the amount
of times that people have been put on the spot
with someone saying I love you, and then they're just like,
I love you too, but I.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Don't know, and you just don't know what else to
say in return.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yes, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Someone told me they love me after five weeks and
I said, thanks, Oh see, that's.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Okay, But that's five weeks. Let's not forget I've known
this woman for all these years because even when we
went together, we remained friends Ryan and so now I'm
looking at this and I'm like, if I say no,
do I implode twenty odd years of you know, friendship too.
So there was a lot going on. So yeah, I
(31:54):
took the ring and I was like, okay, raally pullish
it together. But it was really hard because the whole
time like but she's also very possessive and jealous, so
I knew I couldn't sustain it. I couldn't live in
that environment because that's insane. Okay, it's insane better than mental.
I'm just checking this out.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
At this point, I think.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
No, so you go, I can't I travel too much.
I can't have someone insane at home going who you with?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Who those two sluts on the couch And I'm like,
hang on, now, hang on, it's pretty and Laura, goddamn it. Yeah,
I mean yeah, I mean fair for calling them sluts,
but pull up, mate, And then I just like I
knew it would sort itself out. I took the ring,
but I knew it would sort itself out, and I
knew it wasn't sustainable.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
It's also like unfair on yourself, Like if you know
that you're triggered by insecurities of someone who's out and
away and living a life that's separate to you, like
that's only going to exacerbate by the fact that you
live a life where you have to come to Australia,
you are overseas, you are traveling. Someone that you're in
a relationship with would need to have a lot of
sense of self security that you're not doing things that
(33:04):
you know.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But also, can I just say, like the first time
we were together, she kept cheating on me. That's why
we broke up. So I have never cheated, so she
doesn't even have the Yeah, she's projecting her shit onto me.
So I just got I knew. I knew it would
get to this. So can I just tell the breakup story?
Because I have never This is an exclusive. I was
(33:26):
going to put it in my show, but I think
it's too brutal, so I'm going to tell you. So
before I left, I had to do regional Victoria tour
and then some shows here in Sydney are also original
and so I was traveling all day. But before I left,
it was two weeks that I was away from home.
I rang my brother and I said, I'm leaving for
(33:47):
two weeks. She wasn't living with me, which is also
a great indicator that I wasn't ready. And I said
to my brother, I'm leaving. I want you to go
change the locks of my house. I kid, listen, listen.
So she doesn't know, but I knew what was coming. Right.
She had to find my thing on my phone and
(34:07):
then the whole time, she'll go, why were you like
in the middle of the night, I'm up in cans
where there's crocodiles in the water, and then the dot
for my phone three o'clock in the morning is in
the water outside the hotel, which a normal mind would go,
a satellite has been moving and that's why the dot
is moving into the water because I'm right on the water,
but I'm not. I'm asleep, and she goes, what at
(34:29):
the dot move? I go, I don't know, but I'm
definitely not in the water there there's crocodiles, and I
was I'm not swimming three o'clock in the morning when
the pool, although it tells on the other side anyway,
So then I knew she wouldn't be able to hold off.
So she was just howling me the whole time, where
are you? Who you were? And then always with the
video calls, and it was just it was a lot.
(34:49):
It was a lot. So then I'm in Sydney and
she's phones and she goes put it on video, who's there,
who's there? And just losing her mind. And I just
went and this is the best breakup I've ever had.
And I don't think I've ever want to be in
a relationship because I don't think I can redo this, Okay,
So she goes, who are you fucking? And I go,
(35:11):
I just brought my bags in and I'm trying to
make a cup of tea, and then I was going
to phone you, but I'm on video and I'm showing
her there's no one in the room but me and
the kettle going and she goes, I know you're seeing
someone else. I go, honestly, I don't, And then I said,
why the fuck am I defending myself here? I went,
I don't want to be with you anymore, and she goes,
(35:34):
we can talk about this when you get home. I go, no,
right now, I don't want to be with you ever,
like it's done. But knowing I've already had the Lockstown
because I knew this moment was coming, and she goes, she's, well,
I hope your next girlfriend. Knowing no, thank you, and
she goes what, I go, no, and she goes, I
hope your next partner. I go, listen, in said name here.
(35:56):
This is not an exit interview. You don't get to
have a sign and I hung up and I immediately
blocked on everything and that I've never spoken to again.
Isn't that the best last line? This is not an
excellent interview. You don't get to ever say hang up,
never speak to that. That is so brutal. Listen, she
put me through a lot of shit.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
But also like it's ah man, what a lesson in
that though, because when you think at the time, you
were like, I'm gonna say yes because it's twenty years
of friendship, it's this long history. You can have all
those things and give it another shot and it can
be the same thing that it was at the first.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Dance, because you know what, since the proposal to that
not an excellent interview, I was like, she was actually
a shitty friend. Why am I trying to keep this
friendship alive? And she was a shitty partner and she
was even when we were friends. She was always on
me about something, you know, and like she got you're
getting really fat. I'm like, what.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You're like, the Papa jacket still fits shut?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean it didn't. It didn't. That's probably where
it came from. Now we're not awake up in the
morning and a friend of mine said, I've at lunch.
She goes, you look so happy. I go, I am.
I am single. This is as long as I've ever
been single in my life. So that since July last
year to know, because and you know, like, it's not
(37:14):
that I need a relationship. It's just very difficult to
stay single when you're cute. So okay, you're producers losing
a ship, and I think that's offensive.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
No, it is a problem that I imagine you would
have to deal.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, you know, you and I the only two.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Right, it's a restaurant.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's also hard when you're codependent. So it's all right.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I don't think I've ever been single. I tell my
husband there was chep now yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Two and a half kids in what's it going to
tell him that all the time.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
I also tell him how financially terrible it is to divorce,
So I'm always like that, let him.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Call me if you tell.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
But how long were you together before she proposed?
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Oh no, it was less than a year.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It was like, and were there signs?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Oh yeah, likely, I'm I'm not victim. No, no, there
were like just the jealousy thing I should have immediately
like it was too and very controlling.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
But it's interesting and on a serious note, there is
something to be taken from that. But the idea that
we feel pressured into doing something like even the idea
where you I don't know if it's a bit of
the sunk cost fallacy where you're like, Okay, I've committed
to twenty years of friendship. We've started dating again. I
knew her before. I'm just going to say yes and
work it out. Like the idea of feeling pressured. I
(38:34):
don't know if you felt pressured to say yes at
that time, or I don't know if she was maybe
unintentionally or intentionally capitalizing on the fact that you were
going through a divorce. Maybe you your feelings were lower.
And I know it's a bit of but more of
a serious tone here, but I think that happens.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, And also because she would keep doing and I
guess I would think it too. She's like, we have
wasted all this in between years, and then the whole time,
I'm like, it wasn't really wasted. I got married and
I have lived a life, I started a new career,
I've got a whole thing, you know, Like there wasn't
a waste. The middle bit wasn't a waste. Like I
(39:08):
don't regret being married, I don't regret having kids, but
I also sort of saw that, you know, I'm not
in my twenties, I'm not dating around. I'm also questioning
when I do meet someone, I go, what is your
intent here?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I also think there's something really like there's something really
beautiful in getting to a place where you can be
very happy being single. And I think a lot of
us have been conditioned to think that you can only
be happy if you're in a relationship, like are you lonely?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Don't you need companionship?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
And I would say that for most people, if you're dating,
and you're dating someone where it's not the right relationship,
you will never feel more lonely, or more insane, or
more mental or any of these things. And being able
to be single and not have your feelings influenced by
someone else is like a very free space to be in.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Listen. I honestly, I wake up every morning and I go,
I feel like you know when I don't know if
you can remember like school holidays where you wake up
and you go you're so happy, you giggle and you're like,
it's just me. I think there's something else. I love that,
you know what I got since a break up and
(40:17):
I bought myself a whole new pots and pansy, I've
never been happy in my life.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I really thought you're about to say something else, but like.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, no, no, I've got a whole bag of decks
of packing the bag. No, I mean like just new kitchen,
where you go. This is more fulfilling right now. Yeah,
than any relationship I've had in the last you know,
four or five years.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
I'll tell you what I have nailed it. I'm getting married.
He's amazing, love of my life. He lives in another continent,
like he lives in I don't even see the guy.
But like, I get the best of both worlds because
I get it when I need it, and then I
still have my own space. Like I still wake up
giggling for multitude of reasons, but I still wake up giggling,
and I still have my own time, but I also
have someone to share it with. But you do you
(41:00):
feel like that you done and dusted for dating?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Like, do you want to meet someone else?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I'm not. Like I said to my manager this week,
I said, chances of you seeing a dinosaur is higher
than seeing me in a new relationship. Obviously, never say
never if I meet someone amazing, and you know, but
I'm definitely not looking Yeah, yeah, you know, and all
those skanks of my dms. Thank you for the news,
(41:25):
thank you for the nudes, but no one of your
jokes speaking of dicks and bags and stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
That's a really great segue. But you speak about how
we all need this one friend that if we die
vital or going into your room, get that one bag
and burn it so no one ever sees it. And
you said you got a little black bag under your bed.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I didn't say it was a little Charlie. Yeah, it's
actually j D. There's a Charlie under the bed, you
know in the garage. You go get it. There's some petrol,
just burn it or because it is. It's like you,
you know, like if you suddenly drop dead, like you
know happened to any of us, you don't want your
mum going in there sorting out your room.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
What's in your bag though, you're sand a sack, just.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
The normal you know, vibrators and Satisfied Pro. Listen pro
that's that's the model. Yeah, Satisfy a pro too is amazing.
Like if you don't have that, get that.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
The Satisfied Pro two. All right, well at a link.
No it's not sponsored. We won't all no, no.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
But I'm telling you and I say this, and I
feel like straight people are very reluctant to try six stories,
like I don't have to have got a husband. It's like, okay, babes,
but I'm not that dick can vibrate for eight hours
or satisfied. Pro's got a suction thing. Yeah, I've got.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
One of the suction things. Be aggressive sometimes it depends what.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Like you you're the one holding it, so that's you
that you're being rough with yourself.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Well, I don't know if you have the one with
the levels of suction.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Oh yeah, no I do, I do. Yeah. Yeah, it's
got a hickey when you're done your clips, like it's
actually your show.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
You're coming here for a proper to July August?
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Is that? How do you go? Straight up?
Speaker 4 (43:17):
I don't know if we're going to sit in the
clip sitting here with Yeah, you're having your clips sucked
off by a machine.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
So I'll join you a second picture. I was like,
I need a minute, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
We're here in a van.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
You would you?
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh good, guys, I'm good anyway, moving round along.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, July August, you're coming to Australia, you're coming.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
No, I don't travel with that boy. How can people
get your tickets? Tell us where to go? I'll just
go on my website, Carson dot com.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Okay, good Chota, thanks.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
No, we can't wait to see We're hoping you swing
us two tickets because we're stingy. No, can's fine, but.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I'll on the beaches again.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Don't worry, No, I will get you down the front.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
You know why we say that because last time Laura
was in the nosebleeds, like she couldn't have been further away.
But that's because it will sell out show.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, well that one has already sold out, the ICC one,
the eight thousand C one.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
So do you have tickets for that for us?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Then that's crazy eight thousand people in a room.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
It's also crazy because, like I mean, going to that show,
even though there were that many people sitting there, and
I thought it was five thousand at the time, but
eight thousand, like, it still felt incredibly personal, like and
I make jokes about us being up in the bleachers,
which we were, but it did not feel as though
there was a huge amount of separation between us and
the stories you were telling.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Yeah, so that I think I because we've got the
big massive Yeah, okay, so that makes it. But also
I had a friend who was in there because I
was worried about that too. And then afterwards she said
to me, she goes, and honestly felt like you were
talking just to me, she goes, I was watching on
the screen, I was watching you down there, and I
just felt like we were having a chat. And I
was like, that's exactly what you want, what I want.
(44:57):
That's sort of my style too. No, so there's and
I actually said, because I'm doing a show at the
fore court of the Opera House, and then I said,
it's only five thousand people only. It's crazy that that's
what the audiences have become in Sydney, where suddenly it's
just that's only. Yeah, Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne have just gone crazy.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Did you see a tipping point where the audience scale
just blew up or has it been this slow, gradual
build like, because like you know, when you you might
have booked out a booked out a show somewhere and
been like wow, I didn't expect to book that one out,
and then you're like, well, let's like increase the capacity,
Like was it something that happened just kind of progressively,
or was there one big catalyst that meant that the
audience exploded.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, well, I mean it's sort of every year that
I've been in Melbourne, I've sold out every show. So
the first year I came, I did a twenty seater
in Melbourne, the Carvert Room at Fourum sold out. Yeah, yeah,
it was hard, but yes. And then the next year
because then I signed up with Beck who I'm still worth,
my manager, and then and she put me in a
(46:00):
sixty seater at town Hall. And then the year after that,
I was in one hundred seedar and then that's so
it's almost like it doubled every year. And then we
went from there to one hundred and fifty seedter at
the Swiss Club. And then at the end of it,
because we sold everything out, we put one extra show
on at Forum and there was a five hundred or
eight eight eight hundred, eight hundred Seedar and then once
(46:23):
we did that eight hundred seater. It's almost like you
know when you have a dog that tries to jump
over the fence and then one day it gets over
the fence and then you're fucked. You can never keep
that dog in and will find a way out. That's
what it became. Like I was the football that found
a way over the fence. Because then after that I
started playing town Hall Main Room every night for like
(46:44):
twenty three shows in a row for four or five years.
And now I'm doing the Palais. Yeah. And then but
then the same Sydney started like one hundred and eighty
seedter and then it just now I'm in the eight
thousand Cedar. Oh it's already sold out five months before
we get here. Wow, So now we had to add.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
You're putting some more shows on?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, Taylor Swift, there we go.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Hey, you know what we didn't ask you. Adam Sandler
was the producer on the Netflix movie Crack. Did you
get to like engage with him, meet him a lot? Like?
What's he like?
Speaker 3 (47:16):
He's really nice. He's quite shy and but very family dude,
and he calls me buddy. Yeah pretty in Yeah, I reckon.
I mean he spoke to me once. I think that's enough.
But it was very complimentary, really nice. His wife Jackie's
lovely too. Yeah. Yeah, they're all just really nice, down
to earth. I can't we go. He's like one of
(47:38):
the richest dudes in the entertainment in the street. I
think he's the highest paid comic. Yeah, and like four
hundred millionaire. But he's in tracks of pants and sneakers
and he's like, hey, buddy, you're very funny. But they're
just so down to earth. His wife too, She was
sitting at one stage, just at my little area, and
my manager didn't even know that was her sitting there.
(48:00):
And she's just sitting there rubbing her feet, you know,
because one's in their heels. Yeah, this chucking. It was
just but they but the whole family was there. Yeah,
like that's really good.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
So do you want to is that something you want
to do now more that you've sort of dabbled in
a little bit, do you want to start to do
more film?
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Yeah? I mean, okay, this is my dream scenario. The
first three months, in the last three months of the year,
and then the middle too, I do a movie and
then the rest of the time I just sit at
home money and then I get someone like an assistant
that just keeps them all charged at all times. But
(48:39):
you yeah, that's that's Beck. She takes about the driver
and hoses the wharf once a week.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
The cossuction's broken in this one.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
You are the best. I can't wait for a round
three when you join this podcast in three years time.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
We should we put bets on what my relationships this
will be.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
I reckon you'll being engaged again man or woman or
no what else I'm going man, I mean sorry, no women.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Look, I would love to say just happily single, but
I reckon you'll probably be engaged.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
And bangles of bring.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
You're giving needy So I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
I joke this bitcher. After this, I'm gonna go. So
we stopped recording, And.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Thank you so much for sharing as well. And I
know it's it's a pretty big deal for you to
talk about your personal life and we do appreciate it.
You are brilliant. We could not love you more. Definitely
will have you back on again and you.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Can have freak checho. Yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, congrat someone of the successes. It's really really cool
to see.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Thank you, thanks, thanks for having me
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