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October 16, 2024 45 mins

Hey Lifers,

Welcome back to Ask Uncut where we answer all of your deep, dark and burning questions.
Laura has endured one of the most awkward experiences we could imagine. It involves a naked French man on a stage, a crowd and tears in the front row.

Vibes for the week:

Laura: Book the trip! Book any trip with your friends/family that you have been planning.
Britt: Podcast Kill List by Wondery
Keeshia: Cloud Nine Curl Wand

Then we jump into your questions!

MY PARTNER DOESN'T WANT TO WEAR CONDOMS BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE ON CONTRACEPTION
We unpack a situation from love is blind where the male partner expressed that he doesn't find 'condom sex' pleasurable. The female partner says that she does not want to go on a hormonal contraception. What do you do if you and your partner don't 'agree' to using condoms during sex?

HOW MANY DATES BEFORE I HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE?
I am recently single and back on the market after nearly 4 years. I’ve come out of my past relationship with a lot of confidence and have been using the dating apps a bit and even got myself some friends with benefits. I have found myself in a situation where I like two guys that I have met but I’ve only been on 3 or so dates with each of them over the period of a month. So my question is, how long/how many dates can you go on with people before you need to make a choice. And when do I need to stop my friends with benefits? I don’t want to end up in a situation where they find out about each other and I end up with neither. I don’t know if I am being selfish/giving player vibes. I just put all my eggs in one basket like I did with my ex and ended up in a relationship 1.5years longer than I should have. Please send help

DO I INVITE MY DAD'S GIRLFRIEND WHO HE CHEATED ON MY MUM WITH?
I am getting married in 3 weeks. My parents have been separated for nearly 25 years. My dad had been in a relationship since they separated, but my mum has always stayed single. The problem is, my dad’s latest girlfriend, who he has been with for at least 6 years, is one of my mum's old friends, and someone he cheated with while still with my mum. My partner and I have been engaged for nearly 2 years, and I told my mum when we got engaged that my dad's girlfriend would be getting invited to the wedding. I was hoping that with nearly 2 years notice she would be able to come to terms with it and be somewhat civil about it. My mum has recently opened up and told me that she blames this woman for, in my mum's words, "ruining her life". I am not close with my dad’s family, so his girlfriend will be the only person he really knows at the wedding. My mum thinks that me inviting my dad's girlfriend to the wedding is me picking their side and that she doesn't know if she will be able to not say anything or start any drama at the wedding when she sees her, as she has been holding onto this hate for so long. I don't want drama, and I hate conflict, but I feel like I'm in a lose lose situation. Do I:
A. Uninvite her and risk my dad also not coming to the wedding and a potential fight with him
B. Say something to my dad and his girlfriend about my mum's feelings, and ask them to keep their distance at the wedding which could also just result in more drama.
C. Try to stay out of it and cross my fingers that everyone just behaves
I feel sick about it all and it's taking over anything else I can think about leading up to my wedding.

HE'S GOING TO PROPOSE ON HER BIRTHDAY
My best friend's bf is getting ready to propose, in PARIS! They’re going on a trip to Europe for her birthday (I’m also going on this trip) and he just told me he wants to do it the night of her actual birthd

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands
were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders
past and present.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was
recorded on Cameragle Land. Hi, guys, and welcome back to
another episode of Life Uncut.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm Laura.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm Brittany. My sheet won't load.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
What are you going to do?

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm don't have to go rogue. I have to raw
dog it. Ah see what I did there?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Okay? Do you know any of the questions that we have?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I do for the episode just so you know, if
you'd never listened to a Life on Cut episode before,
this is ours gun cut where we answer you're deep,
you're dark, and you're burning questions.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
And I am back because I have been on a cruise.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yes, welcome back, Thank you. Laura has been a pirate
on the high seas for.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
A couple of days. I have something to admit, so
you guys.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Recorded on Monday for Tuesday's episode, which I tapped out
because I was like, I don't know when the boats
getting in, so I don't know if I'll make it
in time. I would have made it in time the
boat got it at like six am, but I was home.
We were don I was posting on social media where
we drove to.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
You and I were in the car together.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
We went past Circular Key and I was like, that's
a big boat, and I was like, that's Laura's boat.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
No, it wasn't even.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
That, Laura. Maybe you forgot, but you did tell her.
She like the boat lands at seven am, but I
probably won't make it. In my head, I was like,
I think you would, but that's okay, you can. You
can have a cruisy morning.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I also couldn't have prepped. I wouldn't have been across
Mont say that. I said, she's back in time, but
she won't prep so.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
It was fine.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
I thought it was just that, you know, I don't
know how the packages work on cruises. I thought it
was that maybe your cocktails were all inclusive and you
were like, no, I'm just going to send it till
the end.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
I have to.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I have to stay right until disembarking because there's at
least three more pinacle Ardis to drink. No, we didn't
get the drinks package. But yeah, I couldn't have prepped,
so I couldn't be here. But and I have said
this to anyone who will listen. I had the best
fucking time. I had the holiday of my life. I
am now a cruiser, which apparently means you're a swinger.
I didn't found that out Awkwardly when I announced it

(02:06):
very loudly that I am a cruiser, and someone was like,
you need to stop saying that. It means you will
fuck other people.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
No, it doesn't mean swinger. So just let's give some context.
Laura got back and she came in there a bunch
of and she's she announced to the all of work,
I am now a cruiser. I love toa cruz, Kruzy,
Cruzy Cruz and we all started laughing because a cruiser
means someone that will go cruising for sex at parks
and toilets, and like that's what they do.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
So like I just cooled it.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
And that's slang for a prostitute who walks the street
soliciting customers. And I have been loudly calling myself a
cruiser for the past five days.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
It's gone more colloquial now. It probably started as sex workers,
but it's not necessarily sex workers now, it's people like
I mean, Mitch was saying in the gay community, some
people cruise. There's hot spots for people that go and
hang around because they want to have sex that night.
It's almost like the real life grinder. You don't have
to go and grinder, but there's spots that you're just
gonna appear on a peace So that's what Laurie is.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
All. I think when you say.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
I'm a cruiser is when you were a teenager and
used to have those like Soupre Calico bags and as
you would be leaving to go to your friend's house
for a sleepover, they'd be the clinky clink of the glass.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Cruises in your bag. The raspberry.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, they were definitely marketed to children.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Ione should look into that.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Lollipop flavor.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I do want to say this, though I have said
it multiple times before going away on this trip, I
said I would rather eat my own shit than go
on a cruise.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
And I only did it, which is also a big call,
I know. And there I was sitting on the cruise
eating my shit, having a great time.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, I only went on it because my mum, who
you guys know, if you listened to the pod like,
she's had a truly horrible year she really wanted to
do it, so I thought I would tolerate it, but
I actually had the best time. But there was one
thing that happened, which it's funny, but it's also so tragic.
And I hope my mom's okay with me telling this
story because it involves her, and she was very, very

(03:58):
very sad.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Look, I'll the judge. You say it, and if we
need to cut it out, we'll cut it out.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
So on the ship there is this stage show right
it's called Blanc de Blanc Uncorked, and it's kind of
a little bit like puppetry of the Penis, Like it's
a real risk gay show and they do like different
acrobats and stuff in it, but they're mostly nude.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
I've been to a spiegeltent show called Blanca Blanc. It's
a performance. It's really sexualized, but it's a circus performance.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's so impressive.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I've been to a puppetry at the Penis, so it's
kind of like a hybrid between like a circus dislay
type thing, puppetry of the penis and also like a
comedy show. And this one was specifically like all French themed. Okay,
so it was a French three.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Lane you are you frenchy your circles through your penis show.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
So my mum was so excited to go to this
and we got front row seats, like we were so
close to everything you could reach out and touch it.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
So, you guys know, and like kind of like.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
At the same time, like, how do I tell this
story in a way that's kind to everyone. You guys
know that, like this year, my stepdad passed away and
he was really big in the music scene in Bullongong,
So I thought you were gonna say something had a
really big people I like, and he was really big,
which is important to the story. Neil Neil rest And
I tell this story because I know he would have

(05:20):
been up there looking down laughing at this situation. It
would have been up So he was a really big
music guy, right, And at his funeral there was heaps
of music that was played. The opening song of Blanc
de Blanc was one of the songs that was played
at his funeral, and it's mini in the moocha and
it's like hidi hdy eighty high and then the other

(05:41):
people go, hiy hidy hidy hope.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
So what's the.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Chances that that gets played very particular. So my mum's
already a little bit like, oh wow, you know, like
really sentimental, like Nil's here. He would have enjoyed this show.
We had a little moment we all held hands and
it was really beautiful. So then there's this one part
in the show and the guy who's French in his
very funny he gets out. He takes all his clothes
off and he's standing behind a little like a music stand.

(06:05):
It's covering his penis and he goes, I have been
trending myself for thirty seven years to learn this new instrument.
And the instrument is a percussion instrument. And the percussion
instrument is him slapping his dick from side to side
and hitting his own legs.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Isn't it percussion?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Percussion? Percussion, percussion? Oh whatever, I'm not pracy person. Is
it percussion?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's percussion? Okay, Well we got saying pre cla think
a pre cut precumption.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Continue.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
So he's slapping his dick's side to side and he's
showing everyone that he can do it in time with music,
and then all of a sudden he's like, and now
I have a performance for you.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
So imagine this, we're y famous on his leg.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's his penis slapping from side to side, which would
have been really funny, super funny if that wasn't the
song that the curtains closed on Neil's coffin two at
the funeral. Oh God, So my mom is sitting there
balling her eyes out in the front row of the
Penis show and there's a man on stage slapping his

(07:19):
penis around, so so confused.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
He was so confused as to why there was a
woman crying in the front row.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
And then all night the performance kept on apologizing to
my mum because they thought that she was offended by
what was happening on stage.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Giant Penis reminds me of.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
My husband, and you guys just keep on playing music
from the funeral.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
It was four separate songs, four of them, four of
the main songs that was part of the show.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
And I was like, Neil, maybe that was Neil having
a great time.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I'm here, baby, I'm looking down on you. Yes, yeah,
maybe he was encouraging something.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
I'm just imagining what the guy on the stage was
feeling and thinking. I mean, if he needed to be
hard for that performance from hopefully wouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Not I think it needs to be flaccid to get
a good like wind up for that slack I'm in
that situation. I just held a hand and then cried,
and then we had a We had a bit of
a laugh about it after the show.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
But it really wasn't funny.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
And that's what I mean by like, look, it's funny,
but it's also terribly tragic.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
No one knows what to do, don't know what to
say because I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
How it can be so not sensitive. But also I.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Feel sorry for your mum one hundred percent. That's horrible.
But let's just have a moment silence for this poor
guy that's trying to do a dick performance. Nothing makes
you softer quicker than a woman crying two centimeters from
your dick, Like.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
That's how you feel resilience on stage.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
You don't build hardness to you.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Also, like when you're on stage, you have no idea
why people aren't enjoying themselves, Like you don't have the context.
So there's just a woman crying and the only thing
you can think is, oh, she's crying because of what
I'm doing on stage, Like he would have felt like.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
It was his difference. Imagine if this was flipped and
like you out there doing a sexy lingo dance and
there were just people in the front cry and you'd.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Be like, but that's but that's what it was. And
then afterwards killing it, guys, Like that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Like afterwards there's like women dancing with like no clothes
on and like doing like cheeky little dances and.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
People are in a crowd, oh one hundred slot and.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
You guys got those VIPC very important. Penis. Wow. I
went to Papetree with Penis years ago. I haven't thought
about this. I went with a couple of friends. It's
what people did, right, you got your girlfriends together. It
was funny if you've never been. It's literally like they
fly kites with their penis foreskins and like it's a
whole thing, right, Like it's a whole show based around

(09:39):
a dick. And then this is when I was with
my Psycho exit had the Double Life. I got into
so much trouble for going to that because, yeah, because
he told me it was like cheating on him, and
I was like it should have been the red flag, right,
But it wasn't. I was like, I'm so sorry that
did the wrong thing by you. I'll never go look
at another dick again. Like it was a fucking comedy show.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Do you know what?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I want to see more thing hot about a meat
long foreskin.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Sorry, I want to see more of like puppetry of
the LaBier. That's what I want to say.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
You could do that like a cart I want to
see it the sugar glider, Laura, you could do that.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
You could be an innovator. Give you a one woman
Oh my god, don't get it cut off, make.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Money the sugar. I give away too much free content,
too much? No you charge for it?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, I know, but I'm giving away bitches of my
feet on the internet. Now we're talking about my sugar
glier Like this needs to be a whole show.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I could be the comedy show. I just imagined a
man in the front row.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Laura, sugar glider laber.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I put it over him like a tent.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
You wipe aways tearses Like, guys, we talk about my
LaBier too much. You're like, people are sick of it.
I wrap him in like a blanket, like a little
burrito for.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Just a comforter. We need to end this. That's like
a bat.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Laura, watch your vibe.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Look my vibe this.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Wow, this is not a hot take, and you guys
are gonna be like Laura, it's not a real vibe.
It doesn't count. But I'm leaning in heart to it.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I know I said that I thought at the family
holiday was going to be something that I'd have to tolerate.
And I don't mean it as in like I didn't
think it was going to be enjoyable, but it just
felt like it was going to be hard work, like
having fifteen people and then six kids. It's a lot
seven kids, it's a lot of stuff. And I was like, wow,
it's not going to be a relaxing time away. But

(11:31):
what it made me realize, and so my vibe is
just book the weekend away. If you've been talking with
your family about doing a family get together, a family
catch up, if you've been talking with your girlfriends about
going and doing a weekend away with the girls. We
can so often talk this shit into the ground and
you never ever ever get it out of the group
chat and you never get it into real life. And

(11:53):
it was so special this weekend together, all of us,
like my brother came in from the States. Even that
I was feeling like a bit apprehensive.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Of not a long way to come for a cruise.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
I've not seen him in so long. Yeah, it was
a long way, but it really kind of just gave
me this moment where I was like, time is moving
so quickly. Everyone talks about making plans and then never
actually does it. And there was one thing that was
really front of mind for us. All our family tried
to book a weekend away before Neil.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Was really sick.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
So we booked like a holiday down the coast, which
all the family, like his side, with his kids and
the cousins and everything was supposed to go together. And
then by the time that weekend away rolled around, he
was too sick to come. And then he passed away
shortly afterwards, and we never got to do that family trip.
It never happened, and so we still like have this
credit for this family trip that we're supposed to go
and do with that big extended side of the family.

(12:41):
And so this is my recommendation. It's like, you don't
have as much time as you think you do, and
stop pushing those really special moments down the track and
go and book, the thing with the people that you
love that you keep talking about, just make it happen.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's why I can't link that in a show note.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
This.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
No, but it doesn't matter where you go, what you do.
It's not about a specific thing. It's just like, yeah, make.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Time for it because it's so importantred percent.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
We've been saying, even for us, we've been saying, like,
let's do a work trip away all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
The year's gone.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
We've been saying, let's do a dinner. Like it's all
this shit that you talk about and then you just
never make time for it. So yeah, just prioritize what's important.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, Okay, My Vibe this week is a podcast that
I listened to. I was telling Keisha about it through
the week just because I loved it so much. It's
a wondery podcast. It's called kill List. Back in twenty twenty,
in the middle of COVID, this is a UK journalist,
so in lockdown there wasn't a lot of work. He
started trying to find his own stories and with him
and his little very small team two or three people,

(13:39):
they stumbled across a murder for higher website like in
the Dark Web, actually it wasn't even on the dark web.
You just googled it and you found a page and
it took you a bit deeper, but it was like
properly advertised when you did some digging. There are people
from all over the world that are on their paying
who they think is a hit and to go and

(14:00):
kill someone. They're literally like, all I know is her
name is Keisha, she lives in Bondai. Here's a picture
of her.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
She's thirty.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I want this done next week. Here's twenty grand And
there's people all over the world. So this journalist discovers
this list and he's like, holy shit, this is real.
I need to do something about it. So he tries
to contact these people in Brazil, Switzerland, America, all over
the place. So he tries to start to contact the
police and trying to explain to them, I'm this UK journalist.

(14:27):
There's someone's life in danger. The police don't do anything,
and of course, as a journalist, he has been recording
this the whole way. Everything he does is recorded.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
I have a question for you.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, the listings of who the person wants killed public
or is it a private message?

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Private? So he got a hacker and they hacked into
this part, right, so they found the murder for higher
They're like, let's have a look what this is. And
then they hacked in and so they were reading No
one knew that they were reading it. This was all
very private kill lists and a lot of it was
like ex partners, but not all of them.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
And it was coming into fruition. These people were actually
being murdered. One was.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
But then the police wouldn't help, right, And he's like,
I can't sit on this knowledge and not do anything people,
and it starts cold calling these people and trying to say, look,
this is gonna sound crazy, I think you're in danger
and explaining it. A lot of people were All the
phone calls are recorded, a lot of people were hanging
up on him, but he started to actually get through

(15:23):
to some. Then they went and met them and spoke
to them, and they ended up saving people's lives. The
police wouldn't do anything, and this random journalist, Carl Miller
from the UK was literally saving people's lives. Eventually he
saved that many and he made the story big enough
that the FBI came in and we're like, we'll take
it from here. And obviously that's what they do, you know,
like you're the little dog that started it. We didn't
care about you at start. It is truly so fascinating

(15:47):
and so wild that this exists, Like it is insane
that this exists.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
How many episodes? I think it's nine, nine episodes?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, nine wonder Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I actually listened to a great wandering series recently on
Marilyn Monroe as well.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
They did great podcasts.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, anyway, so that's it. So it's called kill list
if you're interested.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Absolutely fascinating. I was hooked as soon as you told
me about that.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
My vibe for this week actually comes off of the
back of how many questions I got asked about the
Acros night that we went to the other day. I
mentioned in my stories that I do my own hair
for kind of any awards event, and my very first
job when I was a teenager, I worked in a
hairslon for four years, so I have like slightly more
kind of skills in that area than I guess your average,

(16:27):
but not by March. It is my curling wand. So
I got this wand.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
About probably a year ago.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Now it's the Cloud nine, the curling wand and it
is absolutely phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
It is so easy to use.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
It's basically a cylinder, so you can get curlers, and
I have had curlers that are like cone shapes or ovals. Personally,
I prefer the circle, like the big thick barrel. Yeah
you do, girl too fast?

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Sorry?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, so I seem to prefer the cylindrical ones. I
really like old Hollywood style curl waves, and I find
this really easy to use, so you can get it
from a bunch of different websites like Harehouse Cloud nine itself.
It is the Cloud nine, the curling wand I have
the one.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
In black, twenty five millimeters. I'm looking at it right now.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
My pouture around the penis.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Go.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Links for all of our vibes, as always, other than
moras this week will be in our show notes and
also on our website that you can find if you've
forgotten it a couple of weeks later.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Let's get into the questions.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Perfect question number one. Actually this is not so much
a question. We're really mixing it up today because I
know that we've talked about love is blind quite a
bit recently. But something happened. Something happened which raised a
very interesting question that I think so many of us
as women have experienced at some point in time, and
we wanted to discuss it and unpack it.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I was just going to say, we also typiclear have
no personal ties. The love is blind. I know it
may appear that way, but it's just producing. It's so
much content.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah, it's like Maths and Maps isn't on for another
couple of months. So this is where a lot of
relationship dynamic questions are coming up. So this particular scene happened.
I think it was in like maybe episode seven or
eight sor if you're not quite up to that yet,
but it was between Ramseys and Marissa, and it had
to do with condoms and contraception.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Does not the word I don't know condoms or something
like I don't know, but like I mean, I think,
like that's what I want to go with.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I think, do you enjoy condom sex?

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Yeah? Really, some of my fast sex has been on
a condom. Okay, I think we could definitely have condom
sex and it'd be fine. How do you feel about that?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Okay, not like no, but no, it's the thing is like, yeah,
it's not like I don't like if I wear one.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
It's it's just not we a raw dogget, like we
either have condom sex, so we don't have condom sex,
and we accept the consequences of not having condom sex.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Which sounds insane, but it's the truth.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
I'm okay if we got pregnant.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
No, no, I'm just just thinking through it.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, I want to put you in a position where
like you're doing something that you don't want to do.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Okay, cool, so we can disagree to have kind of
sex from here on out.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
It's not really enjoyable. Baby sex is supposed to be
like mutually enjoyable.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Like it's not something that guys I ever have the
pressure having to think about.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, well here's the pressure. I'm not going to go
on birth control. Okay, sounds good. We need to do
what we need to do, but I need the sex
to be enjoyable. What an absolute flog of What a loser.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
So the reason why we want to talk about this
is because this is a question that we have received before,
and it is something that I think can very much
be unpacked as an askun cut because I can imagine
that there have been many of you who have experienced
in your time men either guilting you around not wanting
to wear a condo or badgering you into allowing them

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not to wear a condom because it quote unquote is
not as enjoyable as not having condom sex.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
This gives me the ick to the nth degree. Also,
how passive aggressive that conversation was, Like they were both
trying to be happy and laughing, but like, okay, totally,
but it's just like I needed to be enjoyable, so like,
but the difference is here. Firstly, let's just call a
spade a spade. Condoms are so good now, they are
so thin you almost can't fuel them. The pleasure is

(20:29):
completely fine. It's for me, it's the same as I
can't tell the difference. I know, I'm not a man.
I don't have a dick, But that's the whole point
right there, made to be a second skin.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's interesting because like, I don't want to speak on
the physiological side for someone else, so I've never experienced
like what it is to have sex as a man
and wear a condom. Universally, a lot of guys actually sink. Universally,
a lot of guys talk about how it is less sensitive. John,
know you're the only man in the room. What's condom
sex life.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
They're great, They're great, great, he said, it's the same
JOHNO said, it's great.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
There you go the first watch of Virginity last week.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Right, he's he only masturbates with one.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
But seriously, look, I think that there is this real
perception that it is not as good for guys. But
they have come such a long way, they are so
thin now that maybe it's not exactly as good as
what it might be for them if they weren't wearing
a condom. But I think it's more of a mental
barrier rather than it actually being a physical barrier. Now,

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if you're in a situation where a guy guilts you,
makes you feel as though like not only is it
passive aggressive, but it's this real like guilt tripping into
trying to get his way. Well, find then like it
needs to be pleasurable for me. It's like he's trying
to make her feel as though she's not doing the
right thing in the relationship or she's not going to
please him, and so by manipulating her in that way,

(21:53):
he's hoping that she will cave. If you find yourself
in a relationship where someone manipulates you to have sex,
in the way that they want to have sex, get
the fuck out of there really quick.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Smart.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
It also just grinds my fears that these are the options. Right,
You wear a condom that you can barely feel, or
you pressure your partner to go on a hormone contraception
that changes her entire life, that changes her hormones, that
gives you skin conditions. They can give you molasma, they
can give you acne. You want your partner to take

(22:25):
medication every single day that could be detrimental to her
purely so you can feel a little bit better in
the two minutes that you're going to have sex. That
is wild to me. And the fact that that wasn't
even a discussion. It was and the option was, well,
I'm not going to take it. We could get pregnant
and having like, well, I don't want that, but also
I want to feel good. It's just disgusting, Yeah, it

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really is.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
And I mean, the only thing I can can come
back to is that if you find yourself in that situation,
don't have sex with men who manipulate you into not
wearing a condom, and never feel bad about standing your
ground in that situation. And I know that when you're
in that situation and the desire is high and you
want the person to like you and you don't want
to feel rejected. It's maybe easy to bend and to

(23:07):
make compromises, but I would really strongly advise you to
assess what type of person would.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Try and manipulate you in that way.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah. Also, I do like that Marissa stood aground in
that she did. She didn't bend. She was like, well, look,
I'm not going to do it. So the alternative is
where we have a baby if it happens, because you know,
she wants him to know cool, just so you know.
These are the repercussions. But it's also important that everybody
knows stealthy, which is removing a condom or previously agreeing

(23:38):
to wear one and then for whatever reason, not doing it.
As long as there's a previous agreement, that is called stealthy.
That is illegal. Now there's a reason that is illegal,
And I think it's really important people know that it's
not just the removing of a condom during sex, but
it's also making sure you were if you had agreed
to something previously. It's so important to be having these
conversations and absolutely never do you have to do something

(24:01):
that you do not want to do.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Also even if like a condom breaks and they don't
let you know, like all of that comes into sell thing.
I think the thing about this that is like so
alarming is having somebody try and guilt you and make
you feel bad that you're not going to be able
to pleasure them because of the boundaries that you're putting
in place in terms of how you want the sex
to be.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Like, never allow someone to do that to you, to
manipulate you in that way.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
And I know I've used that word a couple of times,
but it truly is what like he's trying to guilt
trip her and saying this is not going to be
an enjoyable experience for me. And the thing is is
we all want our partners to enjoy sex. We all
want our partners to think that the sex with us
is really great and that we're doing a good job,
we're pleasuring them. Like, of course you want to be
pleasing your partner, but never allow pleasing your partner to

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be more important than your own boundaries.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
And he'll be just fun.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
He is fucked, but he'll be fucked with the condom
on I go all right. Question number two.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm recently single and bad back on the market after
nearly four years. I've come out of my past relationship
with a lot of confidence and have been using the
dating apps a bit and even got myself some friends
with benefits.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
YI, we love that for you.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I have found myself in a situation where I like
two guys that I have met, but I've only been
on three or so dates with each of them over
a period of a month. So my question is this,
how long and how many dates can you go on
with people before you need to make a decision? And
when do I need to stop my friends with benefits.
I don't want to end up in a situation where
they find out about each other and I end up

(25:32):
with nothing. I don't know if I'm being selfish giving
player vibes. I just don't want to put all my
eggs in the one basket like I did with my
ex and end up in a relationship for one point
five years longer than I should have.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Please help get.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
A girl, That's what I say. How long is a
piece of string? There's no right or wrong answer here.
It's down to what you feel comfortable with and also
what the people you're seeing feel comfortable with. And I
say that because to start with, do I think you
need to say before you look up with someone and Hey,
just so you know, I saw a hook up with
someone else as well. I don't think you need to
do that. I think you can see as many people

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as you want simultaneously. If you wanted to go and
see seven people seven nights of the week, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
That would make for so many free dinners.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Go for it. Imagine how much money you're gonna say,
you'll be a bit exhausted, but you're like, you'll save
some money.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
You can do whatever you want. I think it only
when you have to start having these like transparent conversations
and really honest conversations is if one person asks you,
I think you need to tell them the truth. If
one person says, hey, are you seeing anyone else? I
think it's really important to tell the truth. For a
multitude of reasons. But I think if you're gonna end
up being with one person, it's a it's good to

(26:39):
be honest. B. If somebody asks if you have other
sexual partners for whatever reason, I think it's important to
tell them. If one person does want to take it
further and says that I only want.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
To be with you if you're with me.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
That's a decision you need to make. But I think
until it's brought up organically, I don't think you need
to go and tell them because they've probably seen the
same amount of people.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Here's my question, though, do you think it always has
to be brought up? Because sometimes there is an implication
I guess that we are exclusive, and someone may be
giving you that implication that they're not seeing anyone else,
that they've removed the dating apps, whatever that is, but
they haven't verbally said it, and so there can then
be a gray area where it's like, well, you didn't.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Ask, so I didn't tell you. I'm not lying. I
just decided to keep a little bit of the information
from you.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I mean, that's so tricky because that could look like
a hundred different things. Someone saying, well, I've deleted the apps,
just just you like, I mean, like, no, you probably
don't need to be like, well I haven't. But if
someone asks you straight out, I mean, you've got to
read the room. If the conversation is happening and that's
their way of bringing it up, maybe they don't want
to be so forthright by saying are you seeing someone else?

(27:48):
Maybe they're trying to start an organic conversation. You've got
to be emotionally connected enough to be able to read
a room and decide for yourself when the time is right.
But I would be really disappointed and would be turned
off a partner or a potential partner if I asked them.
If I said, Hey, are you seeing anyone else? And
they said no, then I found out they were, I'd

(28:08):
be like, cool, are you lied to me? There's not
a way to start a relationship like I asked you.
I would just not be into it, but I would
expect the truth if I ask somebody there.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's tricky, Okay, So I I agree with you. I
agree with you on the premise that I think you
are right, brit But how would I feel? So I
go back to like when I was dating. If I
had matched with a guy on Tinder and we had
been seeing each other for four weeks or so and
it was like consistent, like we were seeing each other
and having sex and everything else, but we hadn't had

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the conversation of like what is this?

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Are we exclusive? Or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
If the frequency was high enough, we were speaking to
each other often enough, I think in my mind there
would be a kind of a little bit of implied
like no, no, wrong, wait. Not that I would expect
for him to be Not that I expect that he
would not be seeing anyone else, right, I don't expect it.
But if I found out that he was still, like
on Monday, not having sex with me, on Tuesday, not
having sex with someone else, it would give me the
ick of him, even though I know he's totally entitled to.

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If he then came to me and was like, Hey,
I've just stopped seeing this person, I'd be like ew,
like fucking why.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
But that's why it's so important to ask the question
if if you're going to get the icky in that situation,
you cannot make an assumption that because someone is giving
you four of their nights a week, and they text
you every day to check in, and they give you
a kiss good night in a text like night thought
of you today, probably thinking of Sarah and Sally as well. Like,
don't make an assumption, is what I'm saying. If you

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want to know, ask the question.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Also the copy and paste text like Sally.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
It's Brittany but night Ben, it's Liam.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I mean, okay, just going back to the question as
it actually is, you say you've only been on three
or so dates with each of them over the period
of a month.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
That is casual. Well, there is no intensity or frequency there.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I think you just play on exactly as you are
and you wait until one of them brings it up,
or maybe you're starting to develop feelings more for one
than the other, and then that way you can make
a decision.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Also, I know you've just come out of a long
relationship and you haven't been in a game long, but
three dates over a month. You are living your best life,
but you are not giving player vibes. I know the
question is you're scared of giving player vibes.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
It's player vibes. You've got a little way to go yet,
you're living your best life. You've seen two people a
couple of times over a month. That's what dating is.
One hundred percent. No one would think that you are
being selfish in that capacity. Like I think it would
be crazy for you to get out of a relationship
that long and just see one person like you definitely

(30:37):
need to go taste the flavors of the sea.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Ell what taste the.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Flavors of the sea it camen Well, I wasn't going
to go that far, but yeah, you need to taste
the flavors of the seamen.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Question number three. I guess I'm getting married in three weeks.
That is very soon.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
My parents have been separated for nearly twenty five years,
and my dad has been in a relationship since they separated,
but my mother has always stayed single. The problem is
my dad's latest girlfriend. So when she says he's been
in a relationship since they separated, he's been in multiple
not in one singular relationship. So my dad's latest girlfriend,
who he has been with for the last six years,

(31:15):
was one of my mum's old friends and someone who
he cheated on my mom with when they were together.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
So bad juju happening here.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
My partner and I have now been engaged for nearly
two years, and I told my mom when we got
engaged that my dad's girlfriend would be coming to the
wedding and getting an invite. I was hoping that with
nearly two years notice, she would be able to come
to terms with and somewhat be civil about it. But
my mom has recently opened up to me and told
me that she blames this woman, in her words, ruining

(31:46):
her life. I'm not close with my dad's family, so
his girlfriend is going to be the only person that
he really knows at the wedding. However, my mom has
completely guilt tripped me and said that I should not
be inviting her. She sees me inviting her as I
taken my dad's side in this and therefore abandoned her.
The situation is this, do I A uninvite her and
risk my dad not coming to the wedding. B say

(32:09):
something to my dad and his girlfriend about my mum's
feelings and ask them to keep their distance at the wedding,
which will probably result in more drama, or see, just
try and stay out of it and cross my fingers
that everyone just behaves. I feel sick about it all,
and it has taken over all of the joy leading
up to my wedding.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Can you really concisely summarize that?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
So basically, twenty five years her parents have been separated,
the dad cheated with her mom's friend, right, and so
then they went on the merry way after the cheating,
everyone kind of had other relationships x y Z, But
then the dad and the mum's old friend got together
and they've been now together for six years. So imagine,

(32:52):
for example, let's put this into perspective, Britt, you have
sex with Matt. Matt and I separate, and in twenty
years time you get together again, and then you're together
for six years.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
And then you and I I got a wedding together.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Well, mally May's having a wedding. It's malle May's wedding.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
She can't ever get married, she's too young, she's such
a baby.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
And then she invites you, you whore who ruined my life? Okay,
do that makes sense?

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Who cares enough?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I've got it very tricky. I think me personally would
not want this new wife the home wrecker if.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
You will, it's not. She's not the home wrecker. He's
the homewrecker.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
She equally she was the friend of No, no bullshit, Laura.
It's two to ten go. We can blame women as
much as men. They were friends, and she had sex
with her friend's husband, which ended up beating up the relationship.
If that is not a home wrecker, I don't know
what your definition is. I wouldn't be inviting her, but
I would I would try to go to my dad first.

(33:53):
I wouldn't say she's not invited. I would go to
my dad and explain it and say, look, this is
my day, and I hope you can understand why this
is really strange for me, because at the end of
the day, I don't want mom to feel really uncomfortable.
You guys have split up, you know, because of her.
I understand a lot of times gone past, but I
would I would rather we just try and keep this
as drama free as possible. Is there any chance you

(34:13):
would happily come on your own? I would try and
have an adult conversation. There's a big chance he's going
to say no.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah, but imagine this. This is only three weeks until
the wedding.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
This girlfriend has been invited for two years, and three
weeks before the wedding, you want to turn around and say, hey,
I'm really sorry you can't come anymore.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
This is crazy shit?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
What was crazy shit that she fucked her best friend's husband? Sorry,
like like it is what it is, but also think Okay,
back to your analogy, Laura, am I coming to Miley
May's wedding after having sex with Matt and splitting you
guys up.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
And now I'm with Matt what I think in this situation.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
No, but with that, would you let me come?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
I wouldn't make it about me.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
That's the problem, And I know it's really really I
don't want to have a go at your mum because
I can only imagine what she's been through was incredibly
awful and hard, and going to that wedding and the
anxiety of seeing her ex friend and your dad there
must be truly, truly horrible. But it is not okay
that your mum has made this about herself three weeks

(35:16):
out from the wedding. It really isn't. And I'm not
saying that I'm on the home wreckers side. I'm not
saying that I'm on your dad's side. I don't think
that this situation is good for anybody. But I don't
think the way that your mum has handled this is okay,
and I think there has to be a conversation around, Like, Mum,
I know that you're uncomfortable, but you have had ample
time to bring this up with me, and now being

(35:38):
three weeks from the wedding, this is overshadowing everything and
I'm not able to resolve this problem for you now.
And I did this in a way that I thought
would give you the most amount of time to get
okay with the situation.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
So I'm really really.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Sorry, But this is how it is because I do
not want to be at my wedding and not have
my dad there, and I don't want to be at
my wedding and not how you there either. But I
really hope that you guys can just put aside the
hurt that you all experienced and come together for me.
And that's what I would do as a mum. If
you had sex with Matt and Matt left me for you,

(36:12):
Britt and Maley May got married one day, I would
go to her wedding and I would love my daughter
and not make it about the hurt that I've experienced.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
In what the crazy thing is, I wouldn't go to
the wedding. I know you wouldn't, no, but that's the
crazy thing in this situation. Imagine the girlfriend being like, yell, come,
the girlfriend is the one that should have removed herself.
I understand that she has, yeah, but it's.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
So hard because you know, people are full of ego.
People are full of their own self importance. She would
see what's been so long. Now we've been together for
six years, she needs to get over it. Like I
understand the attitudes that people have. I'm not saying I
understand it as in like I'm giving a green pass
to it. But I know that those attitudes exist and
broken complex families, especially where cheating and affairs have happened,

(36:57):
there does come a point where people go, you know what,
you got to get over it. And unfortunately, in this situation,
it has been so long, it's been twenty five years,
your mom has to get over it.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yeah, but the mom still says, quote in my mom's words,
she ruined my life, like that's pretty huge. It is.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
But that's manipulation. That's the problem.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
She's saying that to her daughter in a way to
create guilt, in a way to make the daughter feel
as though she's done the wrong thing. And that's why
I think that this is really unfair, and as parents,
we shouldn't be guilty our children to do the things
that we want them to do or behave in the
way that we expect them to behave. I genuinely think
your mum has gone about this the wrong way. I agree,
and I would not be uninviting anyone. At this point

(37:41):
in time, I would be sitting down with my mum
and also sitting down with my dad and saying, this
is the situation. I am not taking sides at all.
I love you both, and I understand that this is
something that is causing a lot of hurt. But my
expectation of you both is that you put it aside
for my wedding, because this is not about you, eyes,
and this entire thing has been about you for twenty five.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Years, and on this day it's just not.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, the mom's cooked for leaving it three weeks out, Yeah,
doubt like that's silly. The fact she's brought it up
obviously means it is a big deal for her. It
also depends how many people are going to the wedding.
Is it a wedding of twenty people? Is it really
small and it's like you're going to be in each
other's face the whole time, because chances are it's probably
going to end in drama. Is it a wedding with
one hundred and fifty people where they can one hundred

(38:26):
percent be sat on other sides of the room and
avoid each other. I would just do it. Laura said,
I'd have a conversation with both of them and say, Dad,
is there a chance that Sarah has to come to
the wedding?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Like does she have to?

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Because I don't want this to be a big thing
on my day. And if it is going to be
a big thing, then say, well, I'm begging both of you.
Don't talk to each other, pretend each other, pretend you
don't know each other, and just come and have a
great wedding for me. But it's I don't envy you,
Like that's so tricky.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Do you know what I'm so interested in? I'm so
interested in weather? Like who's walking you down the aisle?

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Like?

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Who is doing that? Right? Because is it your mum
and your dad? The mistress? Obviously I want to know
is she going to walk you down? Are you're doing
it as a happy family? Like you said, Britt, I
do not envy this situation.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
But I do think that it's really unfair of your
parents to put guilt on you on something that isn't
about them, especially.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
When now it's all you think about in the anxiety
for you, it's taken over. Like that's super unfair. Maybe
just write them a.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Letter, tell them to get the fuck over it. It's
been twenty five years. Go get some therapy, deal with
your shit.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
I don't think that's the right answer.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Give her faith, all right, okay? Question number four? Question
number four.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
My best friend's boyfriend is getting ready to propose in Paris.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
I wonder if they're going to do it to the
Proutisian song that I just played.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
They're going on a trip to Europe for her birthday. Now,
I am also going on this trip, and he's just
told me he wants to do it on the night
of her actual birthday. I personally wouldn't want to be
proposed to on my birthday. However, I don't know if
she would love it or not, and I can't exactly
ask her any questions without giving it away.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
What are your thoughts, Oh, I think don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Stay out of it.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Just because you wouldn't like it doesn't mean she cares.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
If like me, she won't give a fuck what night
it comes.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
She'll take it any day. No, stay out of it.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
She's not going to be at the end of the day.
She loves him and they're getting married. She's not going
to be upset that it happened on her birthday like that.
It takes a pretty particular person to be like, well,
I wanted two separate celebrations, Like when the love of
your life is just asked for your hand in marriage.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
I think, if anything, it'll just make her birthday the
most memorable and exciting and spectacular moment. I don't think
they're getting proposed to on a birthday takes anything away
from it.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
It does a little bit, for sure. Yeah, but it's like,
I mean, she's not going to care.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Does it though, because the celebrations already about you. It
still continues to be about you.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, but it's like people that are born on Christmas Day,
it's like, yeah, you're like, well, I wanted a birthday
and Christmas. I feel like it has a little sprinkle
of those kind of vibes. But at the end of
the day, you're in love. If you're at the point
where you're proposing, it's not going to be enough of
an issue for her to be like, no, do it tomorrow.

(41:03):
Ask me again tomorrow so we can have two days
of celebration.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah. I don't think this is a big deal.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I certainly wouldn't be trying to play the vigilante in
this situation, figuring out whether your friend will or won't
like it, stay out of it, and just like let
it run its course. Because he obviously also knows your
friend really well. I mean they're in a relationship together.
He's going to propose, So I would have a sneaking
suspicion that like he's pretty well across what she would
or wouldn't like.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
The partner has come to you and told you it's happening,
so you obviously have that kind of relationship where he
wants you to be involved or to know. The only
other thing I could you could do if you absolutely
wanted to and you felt like if the conversation comes
up again and he brings it up, the only thing
you could do is like, hey, let's run through some
options for what could work, Like are there other things
you've been thinking or days, and like, let's see what

(41:49):
fits best. But you can't tell him not to do
it on a birthday because he might say, well, well,
there's Paris on a birthday, or there's a week later
in near Malfi, which you know she loves that.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
He might put a few options to you and you
could sway the vote, but at the end, of the day,
just be there and support the couple and support him
and say is there anything you want me to do
to help the situation? But if it comes up again, yeah,
throw in some options. Laura's bought stop.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Your I have another question, though, what do you think
about this trend?

Speaker 2 (42:21):
And there's been a few discussions of it online where
men will propose to female athletes, normally when they've just
finished something really exceptional, Like I'm talking like a woman
who's just finished like an incredible marathon run and then
the guys at the finish line and she's like, get
the fuck up, I'm trying to get over the finish line,
or like, have you seen those moments where it kind
of goes from being about the sporting event to being

(42:42):
about a proposal.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I don't think that's similar in any capacity, but I'm
here for it. Let's go there. I don't like that.
I think you do. I think like that's their moment,
they've trained for however long or whatever it is, is
their moment. Although I always thought it, like when I
was imagining my proposal, I was like, oh my god,
imagine if Ben did it like at a sporting event
after he match.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
But that's different because that's his match, and then he's
made it about the two of you rather than like.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I'll never do that, He's like never fuck a million years.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Well, you like please, You're like I want you to
do that.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
No. I was like, totally agree. It would be terrible.
I would I would hate that. No, that's shitty. I
don't like the I don't like to taking someone's moment
away and making it yours.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
One of the Chinese athletes at the Olympics, their partner
did it, A few did it? Yeah, which which we
or five people did it?

Speaker 3 (43:30):
They go keisha.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
On the stats there was five different athletes who got
proposed to at the Olympics just after their awards. My
thing is is I think our outward perception on is
that we wouldn't like it, and we think that it's
like their time to shine. But I do think that overarchingly,
the athletes who got proposed to weren't mad about it.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
They all su yes, have you seen And I'm gonna
make if you haven't seen it, I'm going to get
produced a Keisha to find it and we'll put it
up in the YouTube. Johnn to insert this into the YouTube.
Have you seen the really funny video of the guy
that's just like run marathon. So he's run it and
he wants to propose at the finish line. And he
gets to the finish line and he goes to pull
out the ring and his whole body goes into full
body cramps and he goes to drop to his knee,

(44:09):
but he drops to the ground and he's like convulsing
in full body cramps and he can't stand up. It's
the funniest, unfunny video for a proposal.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
That's terrible.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
You have to say it anyway.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
All right, Well that's it from us today, guys. We
hope you enjoyed the episode.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
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You have to pay for it and YouTube subscribe subscribe.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
We have an incredible YouTube where all the videos go
up and all the little extra tidbits. And also if
you want to see the videos like the one I
just spoke about, that's where they are.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
The links for everything is in the show notes.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
There's also the Facebook community life and cut Discussion group
and that's it from us guys.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
You know the drill.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
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