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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life.
I'm I'm Brittany and I'm Keisha Chabella.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
How is your time in Italy?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Took me a hot second to wonder why you're speaking
Italian to me, because yes, I have been in Italy
for two weeks, but technically this is recorded just before Italy.
So when you said cho right now, I was like what.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I was like, have you got ready for the Italian holiday?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
No, Laura, as you guys know, you're part of the family.
Laura should have assuming had a baby by now. Baby
three should be here, which is very exciting. I'd be
more excited if I knew it had happened. But we
don't know what is happening. We don't know when, we
don't know how, we don't know how fast that little
slippery sucker is going to shoot out, But we had
to prepare ahead of time in case she went early.
(00:58):
So this has been just pre record. But I'm pretty
sure you guys are gonna be getting a birth episode
in your hot little hands in two days time.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yes, so that episode will be I mean if all
things go to plan, which you know we're assuming that
they will, and we're very much.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Hoping that they will know us probably not.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Tomorrow, Laura will be in the studio to record an
episode all about the birth of their third child and
sharing all of the details. So if you have any questions,
today's kind of gonna be your last day to get
the men because they're recording it tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So send those through to Life on Cut podcast on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You know what is interesting because like this is happening
in the future right now, but by the time this
episode comes out, it's in the past. I don't know
if I would our pre recording works. Yes, I don't
know if I.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Would have delivered Laura's baby yet, Oh you reckon, You're
gonna be there for it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Now, hear me out if it comes. If the baby
comes and we have to say it now. She because
Laura doesn't know what name she wants again.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
She never know they could have gotten a role on
the scans.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I would really love to hear from people who were
told the gender of their baby only to then deliver
the baby and they were wrong on the scans.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It does happen, But how often do you reckon it happens?
Do you can it's common. I'll do a Google.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, I wouldn't say common. Let's look that up, but
I wouldn't say it's common. But it definitely happens. I
think it happens a lot with twins as well, maybe
like they just get them mixed up. Okay, I'm just googled.
And this is based off of AI in a cey.
I've never known to trust they are, I know, I
never know.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You know how Google now has it.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It says that in Australia, a baby's gender is rarely wrong.
If you get the NIPT test or NIP test around
twenty weeks, you will have rates exceeding ninety five percent accuracy.
It's still five percent wrong. Yeah, it still happens.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It still happens, but I don't think it's happening with Laura.
But Laura did say that if the baby comes before
I get on my flight to Italy, that I'm allowed to. Okay,
she didn't say deliver it. I added that in but
I'm allowed to. I was like, yes, Laura, I will
deliver your baby. She's like, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You have been asking her if you can do the
stretch and sweep, I mean, right, frequently than what I
think would be better in practicing.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So every day we sit down before we record, I
look her in the eye and I do this, and
I don't think that's how you do it.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
It'll be funnier for people watching on YouTube for audio listeners.
Brit did some weird flicking thing with her fingers.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Stretch and sweet put things in, But she did say
I was allowed to go into the delivery suite with
her if I'm still here, and you know what she said.
I let her sign my wedding certificate and she said
that I could cut the umbilical cord. Oh, that's a
good trade off. Do you feel a little bit like fomo?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Not really, if I'm honest, I just feel like back
in my in my science days, I remember being in
the lab a lot and having to do a lot
of dissections, and I don't miss it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's something that I kind of feel like.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I never felt queasy about it, but it's definitely not
something that I'm like, wow, I really miss those days.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I've watched cesareans and stuff like when I used to
be in the hospital. I've watched births. That stuff's fine,
but I've never felt or had to cut anumbilical cord. Like,
I've never had a reason to have to do it.
But Laura said, it's like a squid, like you're going
for a sea for dinner. There's calamary, try and chop
it up. That's what it's like.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's slipperier than what I would have assumed.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, before I did my first dissection of one, I
was quite surprised by the texture. Anyway, people who have
got like aversions to this stuf are just gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Be like, this is so gross.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
But I'm not allowed to birth the baby, but I
can help a birth the placenter, So she said, I
can get the left over.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I think we should leave that to the profession. Would
you take a placenta home and do anything with it?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Do you know what? That's an interesting chat, I reckon.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I would.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I have some friends that had the because you can
have it's a whole business out. You can get the
placenta made into capsules, so like somebody comes and picks
it up, if you've paid them X amount, they go home.
They put it into capsules. It's supposed to be the
quickest way for you to heal your body, so that
they package it up and they send it back to
you and then it's like taking a supplement, but it's
your own placenta.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I just don't know where the line of cannibalism comes in,
but if you actually think about it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's pretty fascinating. Like the placenta is the most powerful
thing in the world in terms of growth and keeping
your alarm. Like it literally is the only that's growing
a human inside your body. Imagine what that could do
for you. I don't know what the science is behind it.
I haven't looked that deep into it, but I reckon
i'd be the kind of person that would do it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I feel like I'll just, you know, stick to the
regular what I can get from Colson worse.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But you do you no judgment for me whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
And speaking of judgment, I actually have a question to
ask you before we get into our vibes and unsubscribes,
and it's about a lot of the vibes that you
tend to bring to the show.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You are our certified true crime girly. Like it's an attack,
it's not an attack.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
But if ever I see something that comes across like
Instagram or even on Netflix or something like that, it's
even loosely related to true crime. You're the only person
I send it to because I'm like, I feel like
you might like this, Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Feel like you're sort of you dabble in true crime.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Not so much true crime.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I don't mind like crime shows, but when it comes
to true crime, I think that it peaks a specific
part of my anxiety that's.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Just like not good for me, you know, especially before bedtime.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah. We had to chat in the podcast a while
ago about like Jeffrey Dharmar and the romanticizing or like
hollywoodizing of true crime.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
So there's a psychologist named doctor Tamer Bryant, and she
has come out saying basically, this is an attack on
people who love true crime. And she's saying that if
you consume a lot of violent media, it might be
for a very specific reason, and it's essentially because that
trauma feels familiar to you.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So she's gone as far as saying.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
If your idea relaxing before you go to bed is
to watch three episodes of Law and Order, I would
encourage you to think about why is trauma relaxing? To me?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That is a big blanket statement, because I go to
bed most nights, either having listened to True Chrime or
having consumed it like it's it would be my number
one piece of content that I consume. But I don't
have any trauma like I as far as I know,
and that's very suppressed trauma with a little tea definitely
(06:52):
not capital tea. No, I'm like I've said this a
few times on the podcast, but I have had like
a very stable upbringing. You know, when I've had traumatic
things as an adult, I feel like everyone does. But
when you look at you know, reasoning is like what
deever Tama Bryant just said. No, my childhood was wholesome,
full of love. I was safe and secure. There was
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no violence. Like I have nothing to explain the sickness
in my brain now and my addiction to true crime.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You're looking at me like you judge you me, but no, no.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I'm definitely not judging you.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I'm also kind of trying to unpack whether there's a difference. Firstly,
I think there's a difference between watching something violent like
a TV show.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
She gave the example of Law and Order.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's a scripted TV show.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
It's not real for me. I have no problem watching that.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's for when it actually is real that I get
a lot more anxiety about it because I think that
I put myself in that situation, and I wonder whether
maybe that could happen to me, or like, how can
I try and avoid this type of thing.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Happening in my own life.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
But I think that there's a type of psychology that
if you're a normal person who would never do acts
of evil like that, it can be interesting to kind
of go down the path and almost the voyeur maybe
of trying to understand what makes people so different psychologically
from what we are.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Do you know what I mean by that?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
But that's where I think my fascination comes from. And
it's also I guess there's maybe I don't know, a
level of escapism, but I don't even know what Maybe
that's the wrong word, because escapism should be like a
travel show to the mal Dives.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Escapism shouldn't be like.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Watching Jeffrey Dahma or something like that. But I've looked
into this before, and I've spoken about it. She's not
the only psychologist. There are so many psychologists that have
spoken about the fact that it's a red flag if
you like to consume that kind of thing. The number
one podcast in Australia is true crime, and when a
new series is dropped and it goes to number one,
it's like a one off true crime series, like an
(08:42):
ABC investigation or so I just think it's a pretty
blanket statement when that many people are loving to consume it.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, I mean that statement kind of says a lot
about the population. But I do think that there is
actually an element that, you know, we could unpack and
we could kind of speak about, and there is I mean,
we've spoken about this before. We've done an episode together
on Monsters, and we both kind of had very different
perspectives on our consumption of true crime because something about
it does feel inherently icky and a little bit exploitative
(09:13):
to me, because at the end of the day, there
is always going to be pain at the bottom of it.
You know, that's someone's family and that's someone's loved one,
and I definitely I don't want to kind of blanket
statement this and taint everything with the same brush. But
there are versions of it that I think are more
respectful to families, and there are versions that I think
are pretty gross.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well interesting because I didn't know you're going to bring
this up. But I was also just about to tell
you that the next monster is coming out, which is
bad timing for me to say that I'm excited to
see it. But the next monster's coming out, and it's
based on the serial killer that things like Silence of
the Lambs and Texas Chainsaw massacre, so that's three times fast.
They were based on, like a real life serial killer,
(09:54):
and that's what the next monster is going to be
based on. I do know that, yeah, But growing up,
I just want to be a criminologist, to the point that,
like I looked into doing the degree when I you know,
you do those UNI days. I wanted to be in
forensic so criminology, and the only reason I didn't was
because and I still remember this. I remember when you
(10:14):
go around and there's the desks and you get to
speak to people from each discipline, and I remember this
girl just saying, probably I was allowed to say. She's like,
don't do this course. There are no jobs in it.
She's like, it's a brilliant course. You will not get work.
She's like, there's like ten jobs that are interesting across
the country. She's like, don't get sucked into thinking it's
like the criminal minds and the you know, so I
(10:36):
could have been a criminologist. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I remember like a similar ish experience. I was doing
a particular course called molecular.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Genetics at UNI and one of.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
The lecturers, the guest lecturers, was a person who headed
up the disaster victim identification of like mass things like tsunamis.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And hearing about her experiences, I just remember having this
thing click where I was like, Oh, it would actually
be really hard to do this job.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, you would become so desensitized.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And some of the things that she spoke about, you know,
she would present in court for certain like horrible crimes,
like things like sexual assaults and that kind of thing,
and explain the genetic evidence to people in the court. Yeah,
and I just thought, Wow, that would be a really
hard thing emotionally, you know, to do for a certain
period of time. And that was the kind of thing
that maybe be like that track definitely isn't for me.
(11:24):
I don't think i'd be able to kind of take
that load home.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I do wonder what it means because I can consume
something and then just go to bed and I'm fine.
I can have something happen and switch it off and
I go home and it's off, or I go to
bed and it's off. Like it's like my brain can
put it in. Maybe I'm a psychopath, maybe I'm a
sax pun, but my vibe is not true crime, but
it's crime, so.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Dexter.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Everybody knows Dexter, right, I was late to the party.
I started watching Dexter maybe two years ago, but I'm
pretty sure it's been out for like ten years. I
love it. But there is a new season that is
literally out now week to week on Paramount. It's essentially
season seven, but it's not. It's called Dexter Resurrection and
it's season one. So whilst it's like you need to
(12:10):
watch the whole Dexter series, this would feel like it's
the seventh season, but they've called it Resurrection one. And
I don't want to tell you too much about it
because if you haven't seen it all, it's going to
give it away. But if you haven't seen Dexter at all,
go and watch the entire series from scratch. You'll love it.
If you were early to the party, unlike me, go
(12:31):
and watch on it's on Paramount in Australia, but it
is dropping week to week. I think there's like four
or five out at the moment. But I am absolutely
obsessed with it. But you can't go and watch it standalone.
You need to see the history.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I have really bad news for you what they have canceled.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh I know, I already know they've asked to No said, yeah,
I just googled it because I was like, I saw
something about this in the news a couple of weeks ago.
So it says after just one season, Dexter Original Sin
has officially been acts by Paramount Plus.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And I don't know why, because it was renewed, Season
two was renewed and then they axed it. So something's
gone down.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, either they didn't get the numbers they expected or no.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I would never believe that it's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Okay, Well, my vibe this week is something that either
you could buy for yourself or you could potentially buy
it as a gift. And when I originally got this,
it's a reusable takeaway coffee cup.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It was actually.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
About it'd have to be three or four years ago
for my birthday.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I can't remember how long ago.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
But Laura got me one of these cups as a
birthday present, and I ended up getting a couple of
extra ones. If you're watching on YouTube, I'm holding it
up now. The brand is called kW Ceramics, so it's
Kim Wallace Ceramics and they're all made from Australian clay
and they're made by hand in Australia.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Beautiful.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's absolutely gorgeous, right, And I recently bought these for
two of our friends bri It that got married. Oh,
because they make some special ones that say mister and
missus and they're kind of like cute couple of things
that they go and get coffee together in the morning.
So I just thought that would be a nice like
personalized little celebration of than getting married. But when I
was on the website shopping for them, I decided to
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also also get myself on. So now I've got a couple.
You can get these silicon lids to put on the top.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
That was gonna be my question.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, yeah, so you just kind of place them on
the top.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
It's not spillproof, but it just helps you spill less.
So what I mean is like you can't twist the
lid on and put it in your bag and it
will be fine. It's not like a thermos, right, like
the lid, it will leak everywhere.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
You've got to hold it up until you're finished drinking.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I don't know what you guys are doing with the
coffee cup swell and do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Like, it's not one of the ones that you can
It's not like a drink bottle where you can put
the lid on them put it in your bag.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I feel like I need the spillproof ones because i'm
and that's probably why you come to work with coffee
and shit.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yes, But while I was on the website, I also
got this other little dubadaki that they've started making, and
it's for after you've finished it. So it's this little
bag and it's got like a leakproof bees wax on
the inside. So you put your keep cup in there,
or reuse the takeaway cut, they say, and then you
can squeeze this tight and then you put that in
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your bag and it stops the drips from getting all throughout.
Because you know, my bag has to remain completely worldprof
I have so much tech gear in there, you know,
my laptop.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
And all that kind of jazz. I really love the brand.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I think they're really beautiful, and I think they make
really good gifts and they start I actually got this
one here at They've got a version on the website
of like a second sale. So they're ones that have
minor defects and they're pretty heavily discounted.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I can't tell where the defect is though, maybe that's
why it's real.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, it's definitely me who makes it spills. But yeah,
I think they're really beautiful and I think they make
a nice gift. So kW Ceramics. As always, links for
our vibes will be in the show notes and also
on our website. Cute.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Alright, let's get into the questions. Question number one, my
friend has access to her ex husband's email and I
think it is unethical. I've just found out my good
friend has access to her ex husband's emails. She recently
told me she saw something on his emails. It was
a fleeting comment, and I didn't think much of it
until I realized how unethical and inappropriate it is. They
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got divorced about two to three years ago and it
was quite toxic. The relationship is still very toxic. I'm
really close with both of them. I don't want to
ruin our friendship by telling him, but I think it's
extremely inappropriate and potentially illegal that she has access to
his emails. I have no idea how to approach the
situation if I even approach the situation. Do you think
(16:23):
it's illegal? Do I think it's illegal? I don't know
if it's illegal.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I know it's illegal to open people's mail. I think
that's more stend to email.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Surely. I think she means like, is it as bad
as she thinks? Is it that unethical and immoral?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Which I guess.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I think it depends on the lengths that she went
to to gain access to the email. I mean it's
likely that it's probably just still logged into her computer
since they were married, you know, maybe he used the email.
I do think it's pretty unethical, But I also think
what's the most weird about this.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Is that she's checking it, Like how regularly.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Is she checking? Yes, Okay, I've got some feelings, So
I don't think it is illegal. It's illegally if you've
hacked it. But I'm going to assume they were together
and they had shared accounts, and they've broken up and
he's probably just forgotten, Like he's probably just forgotten that
she has access. She's not gonna raise that with him,
and so she just checks it. You just really took
me down a nostalgic path. Do you remember when there
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used to be one email account for the whole family.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It would be like, I feel like the whole family's
email account.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
You'd have the desktop computer with the dial up internet,
and that was the one email that you needed for everything.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I just reckon she still has access, Like, I don't
think she's gone to the point of hacking it. Do
you know what? I think the most toxic thing is here.
It's what it's probably doing to her and the hold
it has over her without her even knowing. I remember
I had access to pretty similar I had access to
my ex's Instagram, like an ex I'm not gonna tell
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you who. I had access to their Instagram, which they
knew about. We shared accounts like we It just wasn't
a thing, Like it wasn't a big deal. We just
for some reason had each other's logins. And when we
broke up, I still had access for ages and I
didn't do anything with it at the start because I
forgot and then one day I looked at it and
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then I was like, this is a slippery slope because
I wanted to look at it every day for no reason.
But I was like, wonder what's going on? And then
I was like, this is so I it's inappropriate, But
b it became something that I was thinking about for
no reason, Like I'd be like should I should know? Like?
And then I was like, what's the point? Like, and
I just got rid of it and deleted it and
moved on. But also, I think you need to have
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a sit down with your friend. Two to three years
is wild, Like you are three years deep and you're
still checking your ex's email. It is inappropriate, Like there's
we can joke about it. It's inappropriate. You shouldn't be
in there and you shouldn't be doing it. But I'd
be asking myself why, like what are you doing with
that information? I also feel like.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
An email, like how spicy? Can an email really get?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You? Know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Well, what information can you gain from an email? This person?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
You know, here's your access code for this one time purchase,
here's your subscription confirmation email.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It's funny you say that because my crazy X that
had the double life. Everything was on email, so he
would use email as a text, so I would get
multiple emails from him a day, and he just told
me it was the easiest way to communicate, which like
fucking a lolcano. I got sucked into that one. I'm like, oh,
that's totally yes, your bone, your burn fie is the
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best way for you to like, I'm whatever. I look
back in an hour and okay, I get it. The
red flag was whipping in the face. But everything was
on email, which makes sense because it keeps everything off
your phone. And you know, when that unraveled and I
found out how many other people he was talking to
and with, they were all on different emails, and so
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we don't know what this person's story is. You've said
it's toxic. Okah, you just you're like, how many of
my exes cheated by emil.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I've actually just had this memory hit me in the face.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I cannot believe I forgot about this, and I can't
believe that it's only been during this convers that I
remembered I had an ex. We met in Australia. He
was here for a couple of months. We got together,
he went back to the UK. He was British and
I went over there and I spent a couple of
months with him. And while I was over there, because
I wasn't working, I said that I would help him
out with his business. And I can speak about this
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now because he's blocked me. There's no way that he
can come for me. For saying this, I don't wonder why.
And so I was like, I'll help you out with
the admin, you know, I'll help you out with your
invoicing and some of your emailing and blah blah blah,
because you know, I had the time, and I thought
that that was being helpful. And I remember getting back
to Australia and I was only back for like two weeks,
and so I still had his email logged into my
(20:37):
computer and I remember not doing it.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Wasn't deliberate.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It was like I opened up Gmail and because his
account was logged in, I saw that he had this
fuber transaction that dropped him back to his own house
at six forty five in the morning, and I.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
And I messaged him and I was like, hey, like
you know, because everything was still normal in my mind,
and he'd said that he'd out for a couple of
drinks with you know, friends the night before, had not
said anything about the fact he did not stay at home,
And that was how I found out that he actually
stayed at another girl's house and he'd gotten uber back
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Was through the email told your email it's a golden egg.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I can't believe that. I'm like, what spicy stuff could
you find out?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, that's right. One of my relationships ended.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Because yeah, emails is where the shit goes down. Yeah,
because it's like, I mean, it probably isn't. Now everything's
linked to everything, but it used to be a bit
of a separate entity, like it never used to. I know,
I don't really get everything uplods to the cloud now,
so I just feel like that. I feel like nowhere
is a safe space. But back to this question, Oh yeah,
what should she do about it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Sorry, so many side tendrids of my apologies.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I know, I think you can definitely say something to her.
I don't think it's going to be friendship ending. I mean,
you obviously feel uncomfortable by it, but I think you
can definitely say why, Like why are you still in Like,
you know, do you think you should be in his emails.
It feels pretty wrong. Imagine if he was in your
emails three years deep. But I just wonder, like, do
they have kids? When you're saying it's toxic? Is she
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trying to use stuff against him?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I don't know. Toxic could mean a hundred things of
varying levels. So I would definitely say something to her.
I just I wouldn't end the friendship. You've said you
don't want to ruin the friendship. I don't think you
tell him. That's pretty wild, isn't it. What happens if she.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Tells the friend that she thinks it's really unethical, and
the friend says, too bad, so sad, not going to
change it.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
What do you do with that information? Do you go
and tell him then?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Like you are in a pretty awkward position because you're
friends with both of them. But I think very much
take BRIT's advice of the fact that you need to
bring it up with her and to say, hey, you
made a comment the other day and I didn't really
think about it until I was at.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Home later, and I think it's really bad.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I think you are only going to be eating a
weight your own kind of sense of security and sanity
if you're still checking his emails two to three years
post divorce.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
And it is hard because it's not just that you're
really good friends with her and he's the ex. You said,
you're really close with both of them, so there is yet.
I would be mortified if I found out now that
my ex was in my emails three years later, Like
I would be ropeable. I'd be mortified. I'd be like,
what have you seen? Why are you in there? What
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are you doing with that information? Like it definitely is
an invasion of privacy. She needs to move on one
hundred percent. If I have any.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Excess in my emails, can you please check through all
of the ADMIN that's not actually applicable to me and
get rid of that.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It would really be saving me sometime.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
None of you your exes are going through your ADMIN.
The tricky party is because you're best friends with both
of them or good friends with both of them. So
I would be having the conversation with her saying, hey,
I don't think it's appropriate. I think you need to stop.
Maybe try and take the angle that you're doing it
for her as much as him, like, don't let this
consume you. You should not be checking his email every day.
It shouldn't even be on your mind three years on.
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This shouldn't be something that you wake up and think about.
But as long as you have access to it, she's
always going to have it hanging over ahead. So other
than that, like if you go and speak to the husband,
that's a choice. It's the same as when we have
these conversations about you know, do I tell my friend
a partner's cheating on them or whatever. You've just got
to be ready for the repercussions because there's always going
to be something that comes off the back of that.
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He's going to say something to her. He's not just
going to change his password and then be done with it,
Like he's going to confront her and it's going to
come out that it was you. And this could be
like explosive for your friendship. So I'd be choosing which
battle is worth it.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Or maybe you could come up with some fake scenario
that like all of your things have gotten hacknets because
you hadn't updated your email password and just tell him
that story and tell him that he needs to update
he's true.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You could just say have you heard of the scams
going around? Everyone has to update, they.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Probably need two factor authentication protect him at all costs.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, true, true, true?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
All right, and inter question too. My mom won't get
a whooping cough of vaccine for my new baby.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Hi, ladies, O g listener. Here, I'm stuck in a pickle.
I'm seventeen weeks pregnant. Here's where I'm stuck. During COVID,
my mum became a real anti VAXXA. She was never
liked this Previously, My siblings and I got all of
our childhood vaccinations. I work in healthcare and I always
get flu shots. I got my COVID boosters, etc. I'm
really nervous about asking her to get vaccinated for whooping
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cough before the baby comes. Originally she only cared about
the COVID vacs, but she has since gone down a
little bit of a conspiracy rabbit hole in regards to
healthcare in general, and I've heard her make comments about
other vaccines. My decision is that no one will be
holding or touching my baby without one, and I know
my partner and his family would back me up on this.
How would you approach this conversation? She is known to
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be rather reactive, so I don't want to make a
big drama out of it.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I'd rather approach it gently.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
This for me, I think there are some things in
life that are hard conversations, that are non negotiables.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
This is one of them.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
And I am all about protecting people's feelings and having
empathy and understanding for a multitude of things. Vaccinations, especially
for something like cooping cough around a newborn, is not
one of the boundaries that I would personally bend. And
I say that because whether you're provax or anti vax,
the science behind the damage that hooping cough can do
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to a newborn baby is horrific. So for me, I
would be just having a really gentle conversation like, hey, mom,
I know that you feel you're unsure about your vaccinations
and things like that. We won't be letting anyone around
our newborn that hasn't had it, Like that's your boundary
for your child, and you were putting that boundary in
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place to protect the child. And maybe I'm coming across
too harsh, but I will die on that hill like
this is just something for me. Even with Baby Maya,
my sister's baby, because she was born premie and she
couldn't get the RSV vaccination through my sister because my
sister couldn't get it in time.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Well, she was booked in to get it, wasn't she
and she went into labor so early.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
She went into labor the day she was supposed to
get the RSV vaccine and went into labor as in
like it shot out, My shot out in forty five minutes,
so it's pretty crazy. So she just couldn't get it
and Miamily died because of that. She went into ICU
a couple months later with and literally nearly died And
it wouldn't have been as serious if the vaccinations were
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in place. And you know, we've seen kids be so
unwell because of hooping cough. I just think it's such
an easy fix and I don't think it's a boundary
that you need to bend on.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, like I feel very similar to you, Brett.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
But the thing that I want to kind of be
careful about this is that bodily autonomy is always paramount.
You know, someone always has a choice as to what
they want to do to their own body, and that
is important. And just because we are both pro vax
I also want to have a bit of understanding for
the fact that people will have different sets of rules
for what they want and what they think is going
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to protect their baby in the best way. And if
you see that differently, I respect your opinion, and you
can do that with your own child, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
But in this particular situation, you, the person.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Who has written this in you have an idea around
what is the best way for you to protect your baby.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And that is your number one priority.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Your mum's feelings her being a by this is not
your first priority. And I actually have skin in this game,
and I really do understand how awkward these conversations can
be to navigate. Something that I don't mind talking about
is the fact that my dad is an anti vaxer.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
He has quite an.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Alternate view of medicine in general, and it's something that
we have clashed about for more than fifteen years. It's
something that we are constantly butting heads about, and we
can usually settle on the fact that we just see
it differently and we will approach the situation differently. Vaccination's
different because it doesn't just impact you. It's not just
the person who's getting vaccinated that is going to be
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impacted by the potential outcomes of whether you are vaxxed
or not. It's you know, about creating herd immunity and
for people who can't have vaccinations. And so when my brother,
my brother has three children, and this same thing went
around to.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
All of our family. You know, his wife sent a
text around.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
My sister in law, who I love so much, she's
sent a text around saying, hey, guys, just a reminder
like you need to get your your boosters if you don't,
if you choose not to. And I'm assuming that she
knew that this conversation was coming. You know, you won't
be able to be around the baby or meet the
baby until the baby can have vaccinations of their own,
which from memory, I think it was about six weeks.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I'm sorry if that's not quite right.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I think it was a roundabout that spot and my
dad refused to be vaccinated, and so, which is fine,
you don't meet the baby exactly, and that was kind
of the compromise that we got too.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
It's also hard because what you said is right, is
because like at the end of the day, people have
choices over what they do to their body. It just
means that that choice is taken away from when you
meet your niece or nephew, which is you know it's
also but if you're okay with it, that that's it.
But if your mummy's going to kick off about it
and sorry not Yukisha, I mean like this writer, like,
if your mum's going to kick off about it because
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you said she's really reactive, well then that's on her
as long as you have given it in a nice way.
You know, you're not coming to her, you're not attacking her,
You're like, hey, these are the rules we're laying out.
If not, you can see the baby, it's sick weeks.
So I just did have a look. It says eight
twelve and sixteen weeks when the vaccinations are given, right,
So yeah, I think I don't know. I think it's fine.
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It's your life, your baby and your house.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
And your rules.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
You lay the rules down and then people either abide
by them or they don't, and it's unfortunate if they're
not going to. But at the end of the day,
your baby is your priority. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I also think it might be.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Worth you, hopefully, I mean, I don't know how far
down a rabbit hole she is, but it might be
worth you attempting to find some information about you know,
the effectiveness of the hooping cloth vaccine. I know that
around the COVID time that was a particularly hot topic.
It basically became someone's personality type.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
You know, were you pro or against?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yea, yeah, And there is a lot of evidence, there's
a lot of research. There's millions and millions of sample
cases of people who have had this hooping cloth vaccine.
There wasn't that for the COVID vaccines. You know, we're
kind of comparing apples and oranges here, and I know
that a lot of people would be like, you know,
they're all the same and they're all made the same way,
But that's actually not true. They're not all made the
same and they've got dif amount of research about every
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single different vaccine. So I wonder if she would be
open to you presenting a little bit of information about
it to her. In my situation, that wasn't up for debate. Like,
but that was, you know, it was kind of like
a consequence of a decision. And I'm not saying consequence
in a negative way. It's just like that was the
compromise that my family came to. It was if you
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choose to make that decision then this will be the outcome.
And that wasn't to punish him. It was just like
a matter of fact that if you don't want to
do what we think is best for our child or
for the safety of our baby, then you have to
kind of take.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
This alternate route. Yeah, and that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
And you know what, three babies later, if I have
a kid, it'll probably be the exact same thing. And
it's just something that I've had to kind of learn
to accept about the fact that we're probably never going
to see eida eye on that and that's okay. There
are going to be some circumstances where it causes a
little bit more disruption than others. But at the end
of the day, for me, and I'm assuming for you too,
your baby's health and the way that you want to
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protect your baby is the number one priority. Don't worry
about what reactions you might have from other people, like that's.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Paramount, Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Next question, Do I delete pictures of my ex from
Instagram before new partners follow me? Should I delete photos
with my ex on Instagram before I let the new
people I date follow me? I broke up with my
ex three months ago, and I have one infied picture
of us sitting on a boat. It's not super couply,
but it's couplely enough, like you can tell that they're
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a thing. I love the photo. I'm so happy in
that photo, and nothing bad happened between us. The photo
was from late last year. Now I'm not sure if
I need to remove it in case my potential future
partners follow me and then become uncomfortable by it. I
wouldn't care if they had a photo of their X
on their Instagram, but I'm just not sure what to do.
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I've asked my friend group. They don't know what to
do either.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Do you delete all pictures of an.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
X as somebody who has pictures of her X on
her Instagram that I'm going to say it's okay.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I think I would have pictures of my ex on
my Instagram.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I think the time period is what matters here, and
I wonder if you're able to not delete it but
archive it. I feel like that's the happy medium because
you can always.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Saying it back.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
No, I think it's the same thing like deleting it
is archiving it. It's taken away, it's taking the moment away.
It's fresh for you. Like it's only three months. If
you've got a potential in your partner now, then that
is really close. I'm pretty sure. And I'm not even
saying I remember not deleting it, but I don't remember
what's on my Instagram, but I know there would be staff.
But there was a year between me breaking up and
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having a new anyone, so there was a huge amount
of space. And you know, I post a lot on Instagram,
so there was a lot of stuff that had.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Just first strap thirst.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah. Yeah, there was no depression, depression, depression. I'm back
first pretending got a puppy, gott a puppy, puppy. No,
but I think it depends. And I say that because
then if you don't post on Instagram and you it's
been three months.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Ago, could have been the most recent part exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
So like for me, I forget through even there, you
would have to scroll back so far to see anything,
which I think Ben probably No, Ben definitely did. Ben
did that. I know that because we had that conversation.
But I don't think it's a big deal. I think
I did take down some that were like too romantic
or copperly, like I think I took those down, but
It was a huge part of my life. You know,
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somebody I loved and respected and spent time with, and
we did a lot of things together. We were traveling
the world together and we're having a lot of fun.
And for me, it just didn't it didn't end badly.
So it didn't feel like I feel like the people
that go on and delete their exes, I feel like
that's ended badly for them, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
One time, this was one of the most psychotic things
I've ever done. It was a really bad break hut.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
And I didn't delete the photos, but I changed the
captions and it was so so passive aggressive like then
I changed the Yeah, it made me look terrible.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
It was the worst to see.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I'm not recommending you do this, no, but don't. Doesn't
the person get a notification that you've edited it if
they're tagged in it, so they're getting notifications.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
He was edited, so he wouldn't have gotten any notifications
at all.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
But I did get a screenshot of it sent to
me through email, because there's the email Mate email.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
She goes down on emails.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I can't believe I actually said nothing spicy happens on emails,
So look, I think a very good point that you
made about it depends on how many other pictures you have,
and I also think it depends on the cupliness of it.
But you said it's not too cuply, So on one hand,
I think that to other people that can show that
you can have good, happy relationships and maybe that those
relationships don't end terribly.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
So that's kind of a pro.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
But the con would be if some people would see
that and think it was possibly too soon and would
be like, I don't want to be you know, I
don't want to be the next picture on your Instagram
next to a picture of your ex.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
We also say that because we had this discussion with
a friend recently who Keisha and I did who's like
dating somebody knew, but it wasn't that long ago. There
were pictures of an x on like their x on
there and where it's murky waters sometimes. But where I
think this gets a little bit trickier is do I
think you have to delete pictures of your ex? No?
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I don't. I think that that is completely up to you.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Do.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I think it becomes a different story when you get
into a new relationship and that person says to you
that maybe they're wildly uncomfortable by it for whatever reason.
I think that that is a more honest conversation. I
don't think you can let anyone tell you what to do.
Like if Ben had come to me and said, you
delete every photo of every other guy on there, I'd
be like, yeh, fucked, I make that choice. But if
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he comes to me and had an open discussion and said, hey, like,
how do you feel if you archive those or get
rid of them? They make me feel a bit uncomfortable,
that's a different conversation. Like that is a conversation that
you have to have with your partner. It's respectful, it's open,
it's kind. But do you have to delete it now
in a worry that maybe your future partner that doesn't
exist yet is going to be uncomfortable with it. No,
I think that that's I think you are over thinking
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on overstressing them. But if you haven't posted on Instagram,
you're not a big poster. And anyone new goes onto
your Instagram because that's what they do. Right, you meet online,
the first thing people want to know is what's your Instagram?
Let's swap let me do my stalk. If the first
photo or one of the first three photos they're seen
is of you on a boat with your They don't
know what's your ex right, but that it's with a guy.
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It might send them some kind of message that oh,
maybe she's still seeing someone, or maybe it's complicated, or
maybe it's too soon, or you don't know. But again,
no one can make you do anything.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, I think the best option is to archive, because
you're not deleting the memory you know you personally. I
know because for a lot of us we kind of
use Instagram as a bit of a visual diary as well.
Like sometimes you'll scroll back on your own Instagram and
be like, oh my gosh, that was such a nice
time in my life.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
So you might not necessarily want to delete that entire memory.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
And for me, I've got a lot of things archived
that I just didn't think were like necessary to be
on the grid anymore. I'd love to go through your
archives be like why did you ever post that?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
To be like with every X you get a real
timeline and trust.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Me, and so maybe that's like a happy medium. But yeah,
I think you've given very good advice on that one.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Britt.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
I've got one final question for you.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I found out that my sister cheated on her husband,
and now I see her differently. I recently found out
that my sister cheated on my brother in.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Law last year. We're a very close family.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
It's just the two of us siblings, and our kids
and partners are really connected. I knew about the man
that she had been flirting with, and I often warned her,
reminding her of how good her husband is and encouraging
her to work on her marriage if things weren't going well.
Now that I know that I went through with it,
I feel really devastated. Her husband knows, and while deeply hurt,
he wants to try and work things out for me. Loyalty,
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trust and respect are core values, and I feel like
she has not only let her husband down and the
kids down, but also me and everyone close to her.
She struggles with mental health and she was drinking a
lot at the time, but I still feel conflicted. I
can't help but see her differently now, and I feel
hurt that she could lie about it for so long
while looking us in the eye. How can I move
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forward from this? What can I say to her to
express how upset and disappointed I am? Without damaging our
bond forever.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Poor, I don't think we've ever had a cheating question
when it's the sisters, Like when I don't think we've
ever had a sister write in saying that they're really
close and it's her sister that did it. I'm trying
to think of what I would do if it was Sherry,
because I'm so close with Sherry. There's nothing that Sherry
could do to me that would make our relationship, you know,
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unless she stole my husband, but like nothing that she
would do of her own accords, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
But I can imagine you're feeling really disappointed in her
if she cheated on Jay.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yes, absolutely absolutely, And that's a whole other conversation because
Jay is like family to Ice. And now I know
poor Sherry. I know that would never happen as Sophie's
and her as that example. But it's really hard because
I don't know what other relationships you've got, or you know,
the core of the foundation of your family. You've said
you guys are closed, but I don't know if other
stuff has gone down to make you feel uncomfortable, or
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is this literally the only thing I would hate to
see your relationship with her change forever over this, But
I understand why it's changing in the moment. I understand
that some really tough conversations have to be had, and
I think you can be really honest with her. The
question here is and do I tell him? He already knows,
so it's all out in the open. You're just wanting
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to know how you move forward with your sister. So
I think you need to be really honest with how
you feel about it and maybe try to get an
understanding on where she is now. Does she look at
it like it's a mistake. Is she really sorry for it?
Does she think what was I thinking? Like I was
at a low point. I would never do that again.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Is she still drinking like she was?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah? Like I think there's so much to it. But
it is a really tricky thing because when you are
really close to your family and your family's partners, they
are your family and you love and care about them,
and it's a tricky situation for you to be in.
But if you can work through it, like you do,
only get one family, and I know, like you know,
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I know, it's not everything, and you can't choose your family,
but family is so important. If you can work through something.
So if this is the only thing she has done,
I'm not saying it's okay, but I would hate for
you to damage that bond forever, which was your words.
You know, how do I not damage this forever?
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah? I also think there's one other sentence that you've
written that kind of stood out to me. And I
agree with everything you've said, Britt, but she's also portrayed
you too. You've said, I feel hurt that she could
lie about it for so long while looking us in
the eye, And I think that maybe that's the conversation
you need to have with her. You know, as far
as the cheating goes, the husband has accepted it and
you know, chosen to move forward, and that's kind of
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no longer your business. Like what happens between them as
a couple, that's for them to kind of work through.
And yes, you might be a support character, but she
has seemingly also lied to you, and so I do
think that you have every right to bring that up
with her and let her know that you're really disappointed
in not only her behavior because it goes against the
i'll ues that you guys you know, were brought up with,
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but also that she either lied to you or involved you.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
In the lie.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
I'm not really sure to what extent these lies kind
of contained you, you know, so for me that would
be the conversation. But I also think that often in
these situations things are very rarely black and white. And
we have been criticized for saying this before, but no
cheating is the same. The reasons for it, the validation
that people are seeking, whether their needs are being met,
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whether they're not, whether they are just out of an
impulse and they're not thinking clearly. I'm not excusing it.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I just don't think it's a blanket statement. It's not all.
Cheating is not created equal.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Exactly, And for that reason, I think it can be
really hard to not explore nuances.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Like that with people that you really really love, like
your sister.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
I would be really devastated if this completely ruined your
sisterly bond because she'd made this mistake, she'd stuffed up.
From all accounts, it sounds as though she's told the husband.
I don't know how the husband found out. I do
think that that's a good thing if that she has
kind of admitted fault. You haven't really given us many
details about how she has kind of responded to this,
you know, whether she has you know, told you guys
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the truth and admitted it to a husband, and she's apologized,
and she said that she's going to cut back on
the drinking, and she said that she's going to do
everything to fix this. We don't know whether that's the case.
If she's cheated on him and it was kind of premeditated.
You said that she knew you knew about the man
that she'd been flirting with, which would kind of imply
that there was a little bit of a ramp up
to this. It wasn't just I was out one night.
I was off my head drunk, and you know, I
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did this stupid thing.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I wasn't thinking clearly.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
It sounds as though she's maybe had a little bit
of like a flirtatious back and forth and this has
been ramped up and it's kind of reached a crescendo
and it's ended up with her doing something that you
know wasn't to the values of her marriage.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
I think that we can impose our values on other people,
and I just don't know whether that's going to be
worth losing your sisterly bondover I can understand why you're disappointed.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
I can understand why you feel betrayed if she's lied.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
To you, But for me, it would be a forgivable thing,
particularly if their partner was able to forgive them for it.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I was just about to say, if he has forgiven her,
I think you need to try to as well, because yeah,
I don't want to say, I don't want to see
you're the byproduct or I think what term did you
just use Casha's side what you call the side piece,
like you know she's not the main person affected in
the situation. Yeah, the betrayal is there. I get that
she lied to you, but that's what people that know
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they're doing the wrong thing do. They know that what
they're doing is right. They know you're going to judge
their actions, so they don't bring you in on it
because when they do, this is what happens. So I
have no doubt she knew she was doing the wrong thing,
which is why she kept it from you. So yes,
you need to work on that relationship if you can.
And if for some reason you have tried to put
it all in the line and you can't move forward
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and the trust is there, then that's something else for
you to deal with. Maybe you don't see her as much,
or you're not as close to her, or you don't
trust her as much. But I just wouldn't sever the
relationship for the rest of your life. That is like
a huge call.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, maybe you just pull back for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, you know, for a couple of months, let the
dust settle, let them kind of work through things in
their marriage themselves, and then you can hopefully get back.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
To a place that you were before. But that is
it for our questions today.
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Hopefully, I mean all you know, fingers crossed everywhere.
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