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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded on Camaragle Land. Hi guys, and
welcome back to another episode of Life. I'm cut, I'm Laura,
I'm Brittany, and this is our radio show. It's the Pickup.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's where we round out all the best bits around
national radio show and we put them here because you know,
not everyone's listening at three o'clock every single day.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, not for not want of train. I'm sure you tried,
but if you did miss that, some people.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Have jobs can't listen to the radio at three o'clock,
so you might have missed it.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
So this week I went on a date. I went
on a blind date. But it's not the kind of
date you think it is. I went on a friend date.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
It wasn't even a friend date.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's a sporting date. It wasn't a friend either. It's
like you're not even friends with them. It was kind
of like a blind sport match.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's because I need more friends, so I had to
put it out there to Rando's to play sport.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Now you've got friends, just not enough who were willing
to play paddle with you.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
That's all it is. You know what happens because you're
at my age, had my ripe old age of thirty eight.
You're so young.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
It's not their age thing. But it's hard to find
friends that don't have little kids at my age. People
are in the thick of it at this age, like
you're either pregnant or you've got little ones, or people
are just not available to go and play sports.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
To be fair of you messaged me and was like, Hey, Laura,
let's go and play paddle tennis.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
So I would be like, you wouldn't even ride back. No,
I would ride back, but I would also just wek
my pants. We've discussed it.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's nothing new, like the pelvic pain I have at
the moment would permit me from not being able to
run around a court.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, so I had to put it out there to
some strangers. Would you want to waddle alongside me? We
could try. Yeah, you'd love it. My sister started playing
at seven months pregnant.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Even though I said it's been my easiest in terms
of like mobility, I feel like it's my worst.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, Like I was so mobile in my first pregnancy
with Maley. I was like walking do it six seven
eight age six years younger, Like, it's not it's not
rocket sized.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Something else we talked about on the show. I don't
know if you guys have ever heard of witch talk.
So there's like a new subset category. It's not you,
but maybe it's just new because I've discovered it. It's
like witchcraft, but on TikTok and it took me back
to when I was sixteen and I cast a spell
on my first boyfriend, and I'm convinced it worked. I
actually still to this day kind of think maybe it did.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Tell you the truth? Did you or have you cast
a spell as an adult? No? No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
But also, okay, if you can believe in manifestation, you
can kind of also believe in casting spells.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
So there's neuroscience behind manifestation because science backed.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Don't get me wrong, I kind of think that like
people who would do spells, it's like a really intense
form of manifestation because you're just really believing the thing
to come true.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
But also not you try to do richcraft, you probably
put hexes on people.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
They're very different things. Do not coll eate the two.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
But also, I was like sixteen fifteen at the time.
I was young, silly, totally do you know spell book?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You still have it? I'd love you to bring that in.
We god cast a spell on someone? Should we try
it out? Let's not should we try a spell out? No,
but a good spell? I love spell on Jesse Grace.
Why are you so against this? I don't know. It
just feels like a dangerous road. Talk to spell. You're opening.
You don't know what's on the other side. What kind
of spell? Though?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
No, someone could put a sleep spell on me so
I get better sleep and end.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I would not collapse. You why don't we Why don't
we put a spell on a listener that's having just
I love spell.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I'll do it.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I'm not scared. From the very Christian school I went to,
I think it's still left paganism meant.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, to be fair, I went to an all girls,
very Christian school, and I think maybe we were just
rebelling against like the values, the very very traditional Christian
values that we were being taught in school, and so
I got really into paganism.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I feel I did love What was that show that
the craft? The craft? Yeah, the craft, it was also
the error of it.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
There were actually quite a few witch and they're a
hot buffy the vampires. I know she wasn't a witch,
but it's.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
In that time. It's from that era. Any let's get
into the.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Show pocus Pocus good one, great love that Sabrina.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
The teenage witch. Good one. No, it was an era.
It was a witch era, right there was.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, I'm going to cast a spell and listener if
you want to love spell, No, a good one.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
If you want to love spell, call me, I'm going
to do it. That is the feather the Father the show.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I know you're not big on TikTok. Are you don't
use TikTok? You look at it from time to time?

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Don't?

Speaker 1 (04:17):
You don't even scroll? Have not opened TikTok once?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Is you?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Unless you send me something to like research.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I am so proud to not be in the TikTok
more text.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's interesting because for a show that talks about TikTok
a lot, like never ever scrolls, that to me is
so odd.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, you guys just send it to me. Waste of
your brain power to be honest.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh you are better than us, that I am true,
But I always okay thought that. Okay, well you know
that there's things like like so TikTok has categories.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Right, I don't know how it works. TikTok. TikTok is
an app that you scroll I like Instagram. No, it
has categories.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
It's got things like book talk, it's got mum talk,
it's got Jim talk.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
There's all different things beauty talk, gotcha, I didn't actually
know that. Yeah, tradwife talk, they're all over. I don't
know if that's what it's called.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
But there's definitely there's different types of categories that you
can go deep on.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I found a subculture of TikTok and that I got
really deep on this, so deep that I I'd spent
a good hour. And it's called witchtok Okay, hear me out.
It's like witchcraft on TikTok oh.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
And this is what you're considering as your new pastime.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, if you ever want to put a hex on
your X, if you want to like get that new
job promotion, maybe, if you want to.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Thinking about your ex in here, we've got other issues
you about popping third baby out.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
The reason why I think I was fascinated by this
is because I went through a witchcraft stage when I.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Was surprised me the slides.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I was in school and I had like a special
book that I would write down all the spells in.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
A book.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I can't believe I'm telling people, but it was like
real pagan spells.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
It was.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I don't know what was wrong with me, but I
did put a love spell on a boy. His name
was Bradley Thomas ended up being my boyfriend for a
year and a half at the time.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Do you remember the spell.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I was convinced at the age of fifteen that the
spell was the reason why he fell in love with me.
So I found a love spell online and like you
needed all these different ingredients.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
You had to.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Just like one of his hairs, you literally and all
of this stuff. I don't know if I needed a hair.
I can't remember what I had from him, but I
had something.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I had to like put it all together in a
piece of paper wrap the paper up. Then you had
to burn the paper and say this mantra over and over.
And I remember I loved me, Love me.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Anyway. I remember doing it.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
And then about a week later, so some drama happened.
And you remember the Yellow Pages. It was back in
the day of the Yellow Pages. So I did my spell,
and a week later I called him to ask him
out on a date, and I went through and I
called every single Thomas is a very common.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Name, how many people should call?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I spent a good hour and a half calling every
Thomas that lived in the suburb.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Doesn't he go to your school? No? No, no.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I knew him through swimming, but I didn't. He didn't
go to my school. I didn't know where. I just
knew the suburb he lived in. Anyway, I tracked him
down and he fell in love with me, and we
dated three and a half and I was convinced for
our entire relationship that it was because of the love spell.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
So when we broke up.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I did another spell so that he wouldn't love me anymore.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Oh my god, you know what I'm thinking right now?

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Set him free.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I'm insane. Free spread your wings. I'm a because I
was like, I've got to set the guy. Free him.
He can't let him love me forever you're twisted.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Set a spell to make him love you, just so
you can have the control to them, be like, don't
want you anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I don't think it worked. I think it was more
that there were other things wrong with me.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
If we're really going to unpack that therapy, it could
probably work.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
The idea that you had to set him free, like
he was so obsessed with you, I need to set
a hex to set you free. I used to do
seances with my friends. We have sleepovers. I'll never forget. Actually,
this one story, this is so funny, might not translate
very well.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Tell it anyway. My friends used to go to each
other's sleep the same age group.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
And do you remember that trend where one person would
lay down and there'd be four people on each corner
of your body, like legs, and you'd put two fingers
under them and you'd all chant light.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
As a feather star anyway, and then you'd.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Chant and then you would lift and the person was
supposed to levitate. I'll never forget when I was laying
down once and it was my term and all my
friends like light as a feast as well as he
and you were like closing your eyes and you were
manifesting to lift, and then they started to lift, and
only one of my legs lifted, and I just farted.
I was in front of and I was like, Okay,
that's really awful.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, And it was a lot of ways to share
that story as well.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I just wanted you to we've both made choices here today,
I'll just never forget that was my only sales experience.
We never summoned anyone. I never made anyone fall in
love with.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Me with it, which you know, okay, for anyone who's
our age demographic and a female, you will feel this
to your care and you will resonate. It's because there
was a really popular movie that came out at the time.
It was called The Craft, and it was when we're
all at school and anytime you had a sleepover, girls
just got obsessed with like magic and witches and casting
spells and stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
And I was of that error. That was was my time.
We both were, you know, the only one I couldn't do, Laura.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know, the one where you had to look in
the mirror and I think, say bloody Mary three times.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
I was like, I can't bring myself to try it
in case it works and the demon pops up behind you.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Well, I'm glad you never did it and you're still
here to tell the tower. Britt. Thank god, Sorry you
brought the story up. Don't you flup this on me, Laura.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I know I just got married, but I sort of
low key went on a kind of blind date on the.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Weekend, and it's not I don't want to say date.
I went on a blind friends sporting date. I don't
know what to call it. Yet you seem confused because
I didn't really know this is a thing.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
But I feel like it's a bit of a psa
for people out there wanting to meet new people.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
But like as friends.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
So I was up on the Gold Coast and I
have this new obsession with playing paddle, like the paddle tennis.
If you guys don't know, it's like that little mini
tennis kind of thing that you play in a glass box.
Is it the same as there's a few people know
there's pickleball that the paddle tennis.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Sorry, everyone's been trying to get me to play pickleball,
and I'm like, I'm too pregnant for pickleball.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
This is no. So my sister started, Sherry's started playing
paddle at seven months pregnant, and she loved it because
it's it's not as like excessive as tennis.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
It's really small. But anyway, whatever we're getting sidetright.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
We are not sponsored by pickleball, sponsored by paddle or people.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
So, but the thing is you have to play it
against people, so usually you play two v two Yeah,
and so we didn't have anyone to play with because
we don't have many friends and people work. So we
found like this group where you go into a WhatsApp
group and it has all these members and you just
blind like put a call out for somebody to play with.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
So it's just adults asking other adults strangers that they
don't know this. You don't have pictures, you don't know
anything about them.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
You put in your level of like where how good
you think you are, which we put ourselves at the bottom,
so you put Hayte, we're level C minus because that's
what we are. So we're hey, guys, two people C
minus in this area looking for friends to play with.
And then other people respond that are also like C
minus or B and then you swap number and then
you just meet. We were really nervous because we're like,

(11:10):
they're waiting. You don't know who you're looking out for,
Like all these people walking past you like, is that them?

Speaker 1 (11:15):
And then the people with the rackets usually is the
dead giveaway, not Laura.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
You're at a place with like fifty courts. Everyone has
or thought you're waiting out the front on the corner
of the cafe.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
No, you go get a coffee first, guys, you go
to the courts and it's a whole tennis court.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
How to go for you? Were they nice? They normal?

Speaker 3 (11:31):
These two guys turned up. One was Italian, one was English.
They were a bit above C minus.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
And it's the equivalent of been on a first.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Date, the nerves and stuff, because you you sort of
have to start to get to know them, but you're
also playing against them and you're trying to work out
if you're friends and if you want to play again.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
You're not on a date brite, you're playing paddleballs a
friend date.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Something that's slightly similar to this, probably actually more so
that you have to kind of like I don't know
how to describe it, Like I want to say feel
it out, but that's not the right word. Was when
I started doing solsa dancing, because you obviously you go
as a solo person. Some people go with their partners,
but if you're single and you're going solo solsa dancing,
you just end up getting partnered up with someone and

(12:10):
then you've got some random dude who's solsa dancing you
and he literally is feeling.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
You up, and like half the time you're like, are
you heading on me? Are we friends? Are we?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Are? We? Like?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
What are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
And it's just like there's a weird dynamic that happens
because like you can obviously grow solsa dancing, it's very platonic,
but there's a part of you that's like, how do
I make sure this person knows that this is a
platonic experience for him as well?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Well? I just thought it was a really good way
to make friends as an adult, but it was funny.
So what happened was they came as twos and they'd
only met through paddle as well, so they've been playing
together for a few weeks. We went as three, so myself, Sherry,
my sister, and her partner and we just one of
us just rotated through. Anyway, we played for an hour
and a half, had a great time, got to know
each other. Then afterwards one of the guys texted Jay

(12:55):
separately out of the group and asked to switch partners,
and he said, will you be my new paddle friend?
And he didn't want to play with me and Shery
and he didn't want to play with his friends.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
So it was like this weird couple breakup. We only
just got together and now they're going off as too.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Okay, anyway, Grace, did you produce a Grace?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Did you allow this? I didn't know would go in
this direction. It's a whole new world out there. A
lot happened on BRIT's weekend. Hey it was real. Well sorry, sorry,
that's the life I leave. Give us the update. I
want to know. Did you guys become friends? What happened next? Yes,
we're friends.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh great, that's my point, Laura. If people are out there,
it's really hard to make.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Friends as an adult, and I'm just putting this out
there for people. Producer. Grace joined adult gardening center. Yeah,
it's a community garden. Oh my god, I volunteer. You continue,
and we've made some lovely friends. We all have hats
that say city farmer. How old is everyone in this group? Range?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Big range? It would be the community garden. Wouldn't it great?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
All right? There?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
There are two types of parents out there, two types
of moms I think specifically just too yeah, just two
just to you can you can whittle them down into
two categories. There's mums who make birthday cakes. It is
a labor of love. They plan it. It's meticulous, you know.
Actually I shouldn't say just mums. You know, you got
your Hamish Blake's he does a cake off every year.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Let's say parents.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, but I think particularly mums do a lot of it,
you know, Like my sister, she's a mum who makes
a cake for every single kid's birthday, like it is
just part and parcel of like childhood care memories. And
then you have mums who are not really cake makers.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I E.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Me, I'm a cake decorator. I like to buy a
Cohle's pre bought cake and then I just stick some
Smarties on it and I upscale it. The reason I'm
talking about this is because on the weekend, one of
my girlfriends she was telling me about how she and
she's like a big cake maker, like she like loves
her kid's birthdays, no kid has ever gone without a
cake being made. And it was her daughter's first birthday, right,

(14:58):
so she thought, what better way to celebrate my kid's
first birthday then doing a beautiful number one cake, iconic simple,
gonna do some like cute little.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Freckle flowers all over it, gonna have it.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Give it a little green stems with little beautiful leaves
on there.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
And then she outlined the whole thing in pink.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
And when she showed me the cake that she made,
it reinforced that this is the reason why I don't
make cakes. I want to show you this, Britt, and
I want you to instantly describe to me what you
think it is.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Okay, it's a giant penis.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Oh my god, it's a pee when you put it
on the side, especially.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
You don't have to put on the side.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
It kind of unfortunately came out of the oven a
little bit tilted, so the one instead of having like
you know, like a seraph tip to it, it certainly
has a tip, but.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
It's showing so unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
We're gonna put this on the pickup social so you
have to go and see it. You can find it
on Instagram at the pick up. But honestly, it's just
so unfortunate. Even the freak in the detail look like
it's part of the Yeah, I words that.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
We can't use on radio three PM.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
There's a reason I don't cook either, Like I just
get pre made meal sent to my door. I'm going
to show you a photo I tried to make a
cake for my sister's birthday.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Now, my sister and I am best friends.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
We traveled the world together for three years, like we
did this big around the world trip. And the reason
I say that is because I tried to do like
an travel inspired cake for her birthday. So this is
what it was supposed to be, Laura. So it's a
it's a blue cake, so it looks like you're in
the sky, and then this is a hot air balloon
that's made out of biscuits. And then it's got a
big balloon on the top. So then it's got covered

(16:36):
in clouds, like.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
And these two little dolls.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
In it that are supposed to be representative and you're
supposed to be like traveling through the air.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, this cake that's showing me right now is a
very ambitious that looks like an ambitious undertaking for someone
who doesn't make cakes.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh here's my cake. Oh dear, it's actually such a mess.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
And I tried to put that's a little folk cutout
photo of.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Us Gami cranes around it. That's the birds flying in
the air because we're.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Supposed I'm gonna put it up on the pig up
it's supposed to be like.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Okay, it's a mess. It looks like a two year
old meter. It's actually disgraceful. It looks like a pillow
with a turd on top.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Anyway, I understand the pain that your friend feels, but
I've never come close to making.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
What she made, especially for a one year old. Couldn't
be more inappropriate. No, well, I mean this is still
pretty bad, though. You could have just bought this unfortunately
bred anyway, I couldn't buy that.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Okay, people send us though. If you've ever had a
cake fail, we want to see it because some people
do them so well, you know, that whole cake or
not trend. And then there's that, then there's Britty Hockley's abomination.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Laura, you've been through some breakups in your time, mate,
Haven't I ever more than anyone I know actually settled down?

Speaker 1 (17:45):
No, but you that's not a bad thing. You dated
a lot. Yeah, I kissed a lot of frogs to
find my princes. Yeah, you don't have to be defensive
about that. It's not a bad thing. I couldn't get
a boyfriend, that was my problem. Some of them are
nice and were nice.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Some of them were absolutely horrible and useless turds.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, well, in any of those breakups, did they ever
ask for anything back?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Like you know, when you split up, you might have
lived together, whatever you break up, did you ever ask
them for anything back? Or did they have ask you
for anything back?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I was always the person that walked away from the
relationship and didn't want anything from it. So, like I
remember I broke up with one of I did the
breaking up as well, so I think I felt a
bit guilty.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
We've been together for a few years, we.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Had furniture together, we lived together, and I remember when
I broke up with him, I was like, do you
know what you keep everything?

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I'll take nothing because I felt so guilty.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
However, I did go through one breakup and I took
his credit card details and I may have taken some money,
but that's because he owed me money.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
And there's a big backstory to that one. And I
think I would have won if it had gone to court.
I think it'll be fun. You would not take him.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
To court ten years statuty limitations, whatever it's called.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
You can't see me now, ha ha. That also doesn't exist.
Laura's on so many criminal things and she just goes
to spin ten years. No, Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
The backstory to this is this dude he crashed my car.
We've been together for quite a few years. Because we
were together, I was like, don't worry about paying anything.
I'll just pay it. And then two weeks later I
found out he was cheating on me. So I was like,
you can pay for my car, and he refused to,
so I just adducted it from his credit card through
my business.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
The end, Well, the reason I ask is, I mean,
that's pretty bad, but I think this is worse. This
happened back.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
In two thousand and six, but it's making the rounds again,
so it's like it's quite an old story. But there's
this couple in the US that were married for a
really long time and the wife unfortunately got really sick.
She needed kidney transplants, both kidneys, and she did the
transplants and they didn't work.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
It's devastating. It was devastating.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
But their marriage was like really understress because of the
pressure of that, and he was looking after her and
she was unwell and whatever else. So the husband donated
his kidney to his wife to literally save her life
and save the marriage and amazingly it worked. Fast forward
a little bit and he finds out that she's been
cheating on him. So he gave up a kidney and

(19:59):
she had been Oh so then it's rough. Yeah, so
in the divorce, didn't want anything else.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
He asked for the kidney back.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Because you know, no, that's that seems wildly unethical.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
You know that's going to kill her.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I understand that cheating does make you feel a bit
different about people, Like I wanted my money after I
found out my ex was cheating on me.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
But if I given him a kidney, I don't want death. Well,
especially because you only had one. Only one works?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, you come back, did this go through court?

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Like?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
No one, No normal human is going to look at
that situation and be like, oh, yeap, cheating, divorce, I
guess you should die for that.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Give an organ? So what?

Speaker 3 (20:34):
He obviously knew that no one was going to award
him a kidney, so he said, either you give me
the kidney or the value of the kidney, and he
put the value at one point five million US dollars,
which I don't even know how where you pull that from.
But interestingly, or actually probably pretty obviously, the court ruled that.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Any organ may not be exchanged for value, but also
putting real tickets on yourself.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
If you think one kidneys one point five million, how
much do you think your total self is worth?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Had he break it down organ by organ and put
an individual.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
But I pick the number from Yeah, I think if
you're going to give your organs to someone, it has
to be an ultruistic gift that knowing that even if
the relationship breaks down or whatever happens there, you've done
it because at one time you cared about them. But
it is a bit rich to take a kidney and
also be having an affair at the same time.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Like, that's pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
It wasn't simultaneous. She gave it eighteen months and then
she had the affair. She got better, and then she
she got well enough for an affair. Hey, we've got
to live on the phone. Hey live or did your
ex ask for back?

Speaker 4 (21:32):
My ex asked for a bottle of oyster saur, then
I threw out when we were moving out, and then
when I wouldn't give it back to harm me, I
asked me to transfer seven dollars to cover it.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
No, Brandy, was he so attached to it?

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Really? Running the mill, like I don't know I am
or whatever right and probably can't say brand names, but yeah, literally,
just you running the mill, oysters.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Or hang on.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
To be clear, he asked for nothing else, none of
the third the white goods, nothing like sentimental.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
He just wanted the oyster sauce.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Well, to be fair, he did actually want something else back.
He also asked for his packet of stato sticks.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
He's got a problem. Do you know what the screams
to me of.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
You know when someone will just find any excuse to
try and reach out and get back in touch with
their ex, like he's lost the plot. Because this is
all this does is double down on why the breakup
was total.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
But it's not rational.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's just they're just so desperate to get some sort
of reply that they write crazy stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Did you transfer them, you ben, mom?

Speaker 4 (22:33):
To be fair, I did because I was like, I
can't be bothered with this, I don't want to see
you again. I'm going to keep your oyster sauce, and
I made a very good meal out of it.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Well done, showed him.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well. A tale as old as time that women have
been lumped with basically the responsibility of everything in the household,
and much.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
The poor men in the cars who were like, mate,
I do stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Too, Okay, not the household.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
With the responsibility of contraception, I should have been more specific.
For as long as we could remember, the responsibility has
been on women to take the contraceptive pill to stop
a pregnancy. Obviously there are other forms that we're not
going to get into detailer right now.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, there's everything the marina like, all of that stuff,
like the one that you can get injected into your
arms and plan on.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
It all falls on women.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
But there has been some brand new research and I
want to get your take on it. We are looking
imminently at a male contraceptive pill.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
So they recognize me about it for about two decades.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
No, they stopped it. So back in twenty sixteen, they
had developed one. They trialed it with men, and men
complained of having reactions. Now, mind you, the reactions were
like a headache, a bit of acne, a bit of bloating.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
So they stopped it. Blessed their souls.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
They stopped developing the pill, and they've started to work
on something else. They've come up with something that has
had zero effects on their testosterone, their sex.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Drive or their hermonal imbalance.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
So it's really safe for men to take, and it's
looking to hit the shelves in like the end of
next year or to early twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
My question is, would you and trust Matt, your husband
solely with the responsibility of contraception, to take this thing.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I don't know the details.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
I don't know if it's like every day or once
a week, or I don't know what it's going to
look like for them, but I feel like it's something
we've always wanted. We've always wanted to be like, hey,
you should have that responsibility.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
But now that it's here, I'm not convinced I would
trust it.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Matt's a pretty good admin man, Like in terms of
my life, Like he runs our household. He's the person
who make sure the bills are paid and the lights
are on and the electricity's done.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Like, he's really good at admin.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
So I would trust him to take some I mean,
if he can take a protein shake every day, he
can go and get a male contraception. But I and
maybe this is too much information, but we're a sharing show.
I got pregnant with my first on the contraceptive pill.
So it was like completely by accident. And the contraceptor,
like women's contraceptive pill, is not one hundred percent effective

(24:55):
all of the time. It can be affected if you've
you know what, lots of things can affect it. Apparently
they say in normal day to day use it's ninety
three percent effective around there, and so.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Ninety nine percent, but they say in the real world
ninety three in case you forgot to take it for
a couple of hours or maybe you had vomiting or
something like that. But generally speaking, the effectiveness if you's
perfectly supposed to be ninety nine percent.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, but even ninety nine percent still one percent. That's
one in every hundred people are still getting pregnant when
they're on the pill, which you know, when you think
about it from a timing perspective. And I remember going
into my GP and I was really upset and I
was like, I don't know how.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
This has happened. I'm on the pill.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
And she was like, well, when you think about that
statistic over the time you've been on the pill for
seventeen years, she's like one in one hundred people. She's like,
it's actually that statistic is not that improbable when you
think about it, And so I think it's a really
great secondary point for like, you know, for protection, because
I think if your husband's doing it and you're also
doing it, and you're both on the same page, then

(25:53):
you really like it's not you're not gonna have any accidents,
are you.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well. I do just think it's interesting when you think
if you haven't been on the and it's different for everybody,
but when you think of the effects that you have
as a woman, which can range from like small things
just like pains and sore breasts and skin problems.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, it's hormonal everything.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
There's a lot of serious things too, like blood clots
and heart attacks, strokes, high blood pressure. Like there's so
many things attached to the pill. But we just have
never really cared. We've always just been like, oh, well,
that's just how it is. So I think it's brilliant
that someone's actually put some time, money, and effort into
trying to make something available for men. I just am
interested to see how it's going to land and how
many men are going to say, you know what, I'll

(26:32):
do that.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, And look, I think my opinion on this is
and everyone's going to be different. Every woman's going to
be different because it is a burden that the sole
responsibility for contraception usually falls on the woman. However, I
would trust my husband. Would I trust some guy that
I've been barely dating. No, I wouldn't. Yeah, I want
it no way, And the thing is, you wish you could.

(26:53):
But at the end of the day, pregnancy is going
to affect a woman. It's going to affect me way
more that's going to affect him. I'm the one that
has to make choices and live the decisions and potentially
have another kid.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
So I think I can trust my husband.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
If you can't trust your husband, you probably should reass Yes,
I think.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
There's one really needs to be on all parties involved.
It takes take takes two to ten go, That's what
I was trying to say, so ten times fast.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
It does take too to take. Did you ever play
knock and Run as a kid?

Speaker 3 (27:17):
HUNDI only one, though I always used to feel really
bad for it, like that I was disturbing the neighbors.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I don't know, it's the whole points such a nerd.
I was a real nerd, Like I was a bit
of a goodie good yet but in a nice way.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
You weren't like a boring goodie good but you like
to follow the rules when you're a kid.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I just don't like to.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Make people uncomfortable. And like I was like, Oh, I
don't want to play that prank. That's really nasty on them,
But in hindsight, obviously wasn't.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
When you think about it, I feel like knock and
run is like it's a very core childhood thing.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
We all know we shouldn't do it. We all know
it's a bit naughty.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
You have to do it at least once, but you
gotta let kids live a little and let them push
some boundaries.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
And I came across that.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Honestly, it was the most heartwarming, cutest video that's on
socials at the moment, and it's about They call it
ding Dong ditch in the United States, so I'm guessing
that this is where it comes. But you know how
a lot of people now have the door cams, so
like when people come to your door, it actually records
what's happening and who's there, which makes it very hard
for kids who play knock and run. But have a
listened to this.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh crapp, no, what are you doing here?

Speaker 4 (28:18):
I'm really sorry.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I did you guys, so.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
You do know what you're out here doing this? I'll
call him right now.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, he does know.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I doubt that.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I've done.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Is that your dad?

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Yeah? He does good.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, he said he's a corn chiding memory and he
wants to be a part of it. I gotta go. Actually,
it's actually so wholesome, just how honest he is. He's like, oh,
you got me. He's just a good kid. Like that
is a good kid. That's what I would have done.
I would have just given myself up.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
But I also I listened to that, and I'm also like,
that's a really good dad, Like that's who cares if
you're going and knocking on someone's door and being a
bit inconvenient, Like that's a.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Dad who's like, Okay, when I.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Was a kid, I used to do this and it
was fun, and I'm like, let's go and do it together.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
You know what are you waiting for? It's like that's
the whole boy, it's so funny. I thought it was
so cute.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Took me back to like when we were little, and
like the real nostalgia piece. We used to do so
many dumb things that were like obviously you shouldn't do
it. It was naughty, like we'd prank call our neighbors and
then hang up on poor Olga.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
She'd be like, stop calling me, Oh my god, I
didn't even do that, but you know my brothers did once.
It's actually I probably shouldn't say it makes them sound
so bad. When they were like quite young, I don't
think they understood the severity of it.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
But they like.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Hung fishing line up between two trees, and they were
trying to make the like a bully chase them, and
they were going to duck under the fishing line, and
the bully was supposed to run into it and he
was gonna get really hurt. But obviously their plan failed miserably,
Like Coade.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Hang it, but my dad lost it. It's so dangerous.
We used to do something similar but without the fishing line.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
And so when we were really little, we would stand
on either sides of the road and we would pretend
like we were holding like an invisible rope.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
As a car would.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Drive past, and there was not a single person who
ever looked at these two like little girls and thought, oh, yeah,
they're really holding fishing line. They would pretend to be like, oh,
so scary, and we really thought we got them. Looking back, now,
the problem is is that bad when we would call
up and do like ring up and hang up on
people prank calls. That was around the time that caller
ID came in, so like we didn't realize but old

(30:28):
ground next or neighboracks would you?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
So no, she didn't know. For a long time.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
She had one of those old like the phones that
you would stick your finger in and then you got
to like round the numbers around. But then I think
because we were prank calling her so much, she got
a digital phone and so the number would display.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
So we'd call her from the.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Land line and she had our landline number programmed into
her phone.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
And she called my mom and was like, your bloody children.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
But some of this is like legitimate childhood, Like they've
got to.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Go through it, yeah, because now.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Kids sit online, they're in using chat, GPT, they're on
YouTube or playing video games.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Out although there were some kids staying at the hotel,
I was staying out on the weekend and they got
me good and I was really kind of annoyed by
this until I watched that video and I was like
it changed my mind.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
So I woke up in the morning from you know,
we were from a sleep from sleep. It was big,
big buye, no, we're staying in this hotel.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Woke up in the morning and as I was going
off for the day, I put my clean up my
room thing on the because I wanted new towels. I
wanted a fresh mini bar like. I was excited to
come home to a perfectly cleaned room. And as I
was walking back to my room, like at the end
of the day and we got in really late, I
saw that my plase clean up my room thing had
been switched around the other way.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
And so and I know it's so stupid, it's nothing,
but I opened my door and know what had come.
Nothing had been done, and the little kids that were
staying it next door, I was like, babe, it was there,
but maybe it was clean. It was like, I'm done
for the day, just gonna flip this around

Speaker 3 (32:00):
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