Do We Have Full Frontal Double Standards?

Hey Lifers!

We’re all rev heads now. Officially on the F1 bandwagon; real housewives or documentary, you can decide. We have a quick catch up on our weekend! RIP Keeshia’s toe and Britt’s dignity after a trip to chemist warehouse and a case of mistaken identity. 
Laura has a small health update of something she’s been putting up with since last September. We desperately need better options when it comes to women’s health care and this is a little reminder to advocate for your own health. 

Is there a double standard when it comes to full frontals on our screens?

Jason Isaacs is sick of being asked whether or not he wore a prosthetic penis in The White Lotus where his character, Timothy Ratliff, had his penis hanging out of his bathrobe while in front of his children. 

He said “It’s interesting that there’s a double standard for men. But when women are naked, Margaret Qualley, in ‘The Substance,’ nobody would dream of talking to her about her genitalia or her nipples. So, it's odd that there’s a double standard.”

We speak about:

• Whether he has a point
• How women’s nudity has been used on screens
• How the media has approached female on screen nudity
• The difference between romantic/seductive full frontals and shock/comedic nude scenes
• Our thoughts about prosthetics being used on screen

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded on cameragle Land. Hi guys, and
welcome back to an episode of Life Uncut.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm Laura, I'm Brittany.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
We have all just come back from Melbourne for the
weekend where we all had very very different weekends.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
We had the same weekend with different experiences. We all
went down to the F One.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
It was definitely different.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
We went to the Grand Prix, which where well, I
don't know. I don't want to speak on behalf of you, Laura.
I'm currently obsessed with the F One. I was obsessed
before I went because I got sucked into watching Drive
to Survive, which is the documentary on the F One.
If you guys haven't seen it, I recommended it a
few weeks ago. It's I completely forgot that it was
your vibe as well. I haven't seen it yet, but

(00:49):
I should watch that.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
I alsuly think it's funny that it's called a documentary,
which I know it is actually listed as a documentary,
but to me, it seems a lot more like reality TV.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
PR propaganda.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I wouldn't I actually wouldn't say it's propaganda.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's properly a bit strong.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
You get my point, I don't to me, a documentary
isn't as interesting, so I see why they would make
it into something that's a bit more thrilling.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
That's weird. Documentaries are so interesting. You love documentaries.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
I like the way that Netflix now make documentaries which
I don't necessarily think are documentaries.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I think it's an opinion of a story, which is
what I think the drive to survive it.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I think they've done a very good job from what
I've heard of sprinkling like a little bit of like
Desperate Housewives or whatever it's called in there.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
It's like like the Kimon not Desperate Housewives. Real house
watched the whole series. Let me tell you about it,
Real Housewives of the track.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's what is spread Housewives? Please don't come for me.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
What it does, and I think it's brilliant. I think
it's doing a great thing for sport. Every single individual sport,
if you haven't noticed, are releasing their own documentaries basketball, football, golf,
whatever it is they're putting a documentary and it's making
the sport grow to completely new levels.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Even when we saw like the Aussie Matilda's.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
What it's doing is just creating another level of connection,
another parasocial relationship, where the second that you feel connected
to anything in anyone it's like the number one marketing
tool for any business. It doesn't matter whether your jewelry,
it doesn't matter whether you're Coca cola. It's forming a connection.
So people are getting to know these athletes and these drivers.

(02:24):
There are parts of the story where they're talking about
his father passing away and how he wanted to complete
this race and get into the F one from F
two before his dad died, and all of a sudden,
you're connected and you fall in love with the journey
in the process, and then you love the sport because
you love the person. I think it was done brilliantly
and that is why we've seen bigger crowds than ever.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, it's very evident.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
This year was like the most incredible turnout for the
Formula One and like we went a few years ago
and don't get me wrong, like I absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Like we had such a great time.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I say it was a different experience because I took
my children and you guys were off like being at
a sip champagne in a box where and I was
on a ferris wheel, which they had a great time
and it was a fan, I reckon I had the
number one view of the entire race course.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
But it's just it's a different experience when you do
things with your kids first, when you get to have
a babysitter. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
It was a choice you made. I don't know where
to go that was. That was your choice. I had
a great one.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Your choice.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Just on that thing that you were saying about it
becoming more popular, Brere, I listened to a podcast and
I thought, this is so interesting. So this is in
North America alone, so I don't know about worldwide stats,
but apparently the streaming rights of the Formula one used
to be sold for about five million dollars per year.
That has increased to seventy five million dollars per year.
So that gives you a bit of a scale of
like the popularity, and I know that whenever this happens.

(03:43):
I also think it happens with bands when they become
into the pop culture space and people are like, I
was an original fan. You didn't like them back when
I did. I feel like that's happening to the F
One now, where people are like, no, I was into
this before all of you blow ins go into it
because a net which is fair, Yeah, which is totally fair.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
No, But also, I mean we were talking about it before,
and I think it's an important point. For so long,
so many sports were inaccessible to women, like they really were,
and I think things like having a docu series that
also creates.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
An emotional connection.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
It's not just about the sport or the intricacies of
the sport, but it's about the people. That's something that
as and I don't want to stereotype, but I would
say that as women, we have like a deep connection
for and enjoy the storytelling element of it, and it
allows people to get into a sport that's probably for
a very long time felt quite utherly or arbitrary and
not accessible to a lot of women. So like when

(04:37):
sport was only catering to a specific gender population and
now it's opened itself up across the spectrum. It just
shows how that's influencing the spectator numbers and influencing the
experience of people there.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Like it was.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Truly, it was a phenomenal weekend. I know you guys
have seen so many photos and stuff across social media,
but it was a very very cool.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Experience to be a part of it.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Just one last thing I want to say is about
the connection and things like I'm so deep into the
fin right now, and my whole algorithm now is spitting
out weddings and f one.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
But Lewis Hamilton, who everyone knows that name, right.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
He's one of the well I think he is the
greatest race car driver of all time. If he's not,
he's up there. His story, you cannot not love him.
Like his story of growing up as a kid, super
super poor. His dad so determined to give him what
he needed.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
To be a race car driver.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
He got him in his go kart that was like
not secondhand or third hand, fifth hand.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
He put it back together, he painted it, he wrote
his numbers on it. He had to work three jobs
for ten years.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
He went to work at like four am in the
morning for his first job, and he would get home
really late at night to give everything to Lewis and
seeing their connection and when they talked about that story
and knowing that it all paid off and he became
one of the greatest drivers of all time.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
That is what sucks.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
People into being connected, because you're like you are there
for their journey.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
He's a hero story.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's a hero story.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
But when you see that stuff, you follow the sport
just as much for the sport as much for the person.
And I think that's what has happened to me with
the F one is I really got sucked into their
individual stories, which made me love the sport, if that
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Brittany is now a bonafide redhead.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Also, I grofat you with my dad.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I also just want to say, like, this is not
a paid ambassador, No it's not. I just love it
for the osgipay.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
We just had a really really great weekend, genuinely a
great weekend.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
But what one thing I did do has nothing to
do with the F one, but Keisha and I had
to go. Keisha long story short, has an infected toe.
It's probably gonna fall off. She broke a toe with
a coffee machine.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yeah, I don't know if it's broken, but I dropped
a coffee group head just in the wrong spot. I
don't understand how it caused this much pain, but a
lot of life is thank you to them. They reached
out and told me that I needed to do this
thing where you like, I'm not going to go into
the graphics of it, but released the pressure from my
toes so.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
That you put a hole in your toenail, yeah, a
melted one.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, that's fine. I mean you don't have to go
to those details. Could just say a hole in your time,
don't let the pressure come out.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
And so my time at the f one was so
chai hi is such low lows because I was in
so much pain and like hobbling around, but I wanted
to be there so badly that I was like, I'm
just trying to ignore the fact that I can see
my heart beat in my toe like I.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Can see the poles.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
I did have Keisha's foot on my lap a lot
of the time because I was like, elevate your foot,
that her ranky little foot had to go up on
my legs.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Why don't you ever let me put my foot on
your legs because Keisha's was a coffee ground.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Keisha's was life or death. We were gonna amputate her foot.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
At one point, I do have to say, never in
my life have I received so many unsolicited foot pigs.
But it was just like a constant stream of updates
from Keisha in the group chat over the weekend of feet,
and it did come to a point where I was like,
please stop giving this content away for free.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
People will pay for this only feet account.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
No one is paying for this foot picture the scabby
on social media.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Go to life on cut It'll be there.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
She said it to me originally, and I was like,
it's the pedicure for me because I'm half a pedicure on.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Because there's shellac still left on my toes, shelac. I
feel I could survive a world war.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I just don't.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
It's too sensitive to try and get the shellacc off.
So there's sheilac on half of my toe. It is
actually the most rank thing about anyway. I don't want
to keep talking about my toe. It's disgusting, but I
have got medical treatment for it now.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, my point of the story was congratulations.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Keisha and I went to we had to get up early,
and we went down to Chemi's warehouse. We're like, let's
go get you some any biotics now, I'm sorry. Chemra's
warehouse to me is like Bunnings. It is like you
have a field Dane there. You walk out of there
with so much stuff.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
You walk in there for antibiotics and you walk out
with like a hair scout, massage, body brush.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I left Kisha.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I left Kisher at the prescription area and I was
going down the aisle and I knew that I needed
to get a new.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well I didn't need to, but I needed any electric toothbrushes.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
You needed one?

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Yeah, yeah, because the head was gross on mine anyway,
So I went down the can.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Just buy the bit. You don't have to buy a
whole new one.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Well that's what I did.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I bought the bit, but I couldn't find them anyway.
So I went down the aisle until there was like
weirdly limited staff.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Maybe they're on smoko.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
It was Sunday morning and it was like nine o'clock
that just opened.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
So I went down the isisland.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
I saw one of the guys I was working there,
and he was like rearranging. He was in the protein aisle,
like you know, it was a protein guy. So he
was like rearranging all the bars and the protein powders.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
And so I went up to him and I said.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Hey, do you know where the electric toothbrushes up? And
he's like, no, I don't, sorry, and I said okay.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
He just turned around. I was like, well, do you
mind finding out for me? And he turns around. He's like,
I don't work here, and I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
I was like, I'm so sorry. I thought you were
rearranging the protein powder. That's why I asked. He's like,
I am, I'm just trying to find my flavor. And
I was like, my mistake.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I just walked.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Had a good day to you, sir.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I was like, you have a protein field daser. I
was so embarrassed.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
It like shuffles up to me. I'm waiting ships and
she's like, we need to leave, we need to get
out of here. And I was like, I gotta wait
for my prescription, like because I was.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Just like, how rude was He just fully.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Turned He's like, no, sorry, turned around and I was like, cool,
do you mind asking?

Speaker 6 (09:55):
You ask?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
You go ask?

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Was there anything about his person like or what he
was wearing, Like was he wearing a Temist Warehouse T shirt?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like he actually was not.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
No, but he was wearing a polo shirt that was
quite tight because he had muscles.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
That was irrelevant of the story. You're wearing a polo shirt.
So from side on as I was walking down, it
looked like it could have been a work polo shirt.
But it turns out he wasn't. He was probably on
his way to his own job.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, this reminds me.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I mean, I feel like everyone's had mistaken identity moments
in their life, but this reminds me of when I
was walking down the main street in Paddington, like near
five Ways if anyone's from Sydney, and I was walking
down there and I had a coffee in hand, and
I was like, just go on about my day, and
then I saw a girl who was a customer of mine,
or at least I thought she was.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
She kind of looked at me and then I looked
at her and I was like, hey, babe, how.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Are you going.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Couldn't really remember replace it.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I couldn't place it, but I was like, I think
she's a Tony made customer.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
And she just looked at me kind of weird.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
And then as I got closer, I was like, oh,
that's Natalie and Broulian. I don't love it's not my customer.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Are you torn? No, hey babe, are you naked on
the floor?

Speaker 6 (11:05):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
No, that's not it.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Crying yeah I was. But anyway, well, look I have
a random update for you guys. It's not a happy
positive exciting one, but it is kind of a bit
of an advocate for your own health conversation, which I
think is an important one to have. So a couple
of months ago, in September, actually it was last year,
I'd had like a lot of just niggling discomfort, which

(11:27):
I think a lot of people would put down to
like period pain and like that kind of.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Annoyances, you know, Like I feel like it's so common
to feel discomfort down there.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Totally down there, like we're not allowed to say it,
and like, okay, this is too much information for you guys,
but like when do we have a hold back after
having sex? I would feel that kind of pain in
my sight a bit, and it was not overwhelmingly painful,
but it was just kind of annoying.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's not that big doesn't stab here hitting my lungs,
and so like I was getting chest pain into sex,
and I.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Just thought my throat was tickling, and then I was
getting like a headache my brain.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I think you went all the way it gave me asthma. No,
I just had a bit of pain in my side. Anyway,
this has been going on for like quite a few months,
and I didn't really you know, with that type of
like niggling annoyances, you often just put it off and
put it off because you're like, oh, it'll.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Go away, and also like standard woman.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Totally and then it didn't go away anyway. I ended
up going to my GP, who preferred me to go
and get an ultrasound, and in September they when they
did the first ultrasound, they found that I had a
five centimeter cyst on my ovary, which they weren't like
too alarmed about. They were like, yeah, it's kind of big,
but it's not so big that we need to do
anything about it.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
It's not small, Like five centimeters is not small.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
No, it's not small, but it's like, I guess it's
kind of just. The response to it was more like
a just wait and see and keep coming back and checking.
The reason why I wanted to talk about this is
because I feel like, and I know that so many
women experience this, Like if you have endometriosis or PC
aware so whatever else going on in your life, the
healthcare system around accessibility when you have something wrong with

(13:06):
you from a gynecological sense, the weight times are so
obnoxiously long, so for me to get in to go
and see a gynocologist to specifically see about an ovarian
cyst that's not deemed as high high risk. The weight
was like six to eight months, right, So we've been
keeping a track on it so far, and it's now
at eight centimeters and I'm in a lot of constant

(13:27):
discomfort with it. And so I went for my scan
yesterday and it's now an eight centimetersyst, which seems pretty dramatic.
And it was the first time getting a scan where
actually someone seemed to be as alarmed about it as
what I've been. And for me, it was a very
validating feeling, not because I want anyone to be like
stressed out about it. You know, I'm not losing sleep
about it, but I'm in constant discomfort and have just

(13:49):
become so used to that being normal when it shouldn't
be normal, and it's very fucking frustrating.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, speaking of that, I had a friend call me
a couple of days ago.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
We were supposed to go on.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
A little vac soon, and she's like, I can't go.
I've had to have my fourth emergency and demetrius of surgery.
But even that, she's like, it cost me fourteen thousand.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Dollars and there's no rebaths and stuff, no rebates what
there is, but it's so minimal tiny.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
She's like literally fourteen thousand dollars and even to get
that done as something that was deemed level category four like,
so she has it so badly. It was like six
or seven months waiting for that and then it cost
her an I'm in a leg and she has to
get it. This is the fourth time she's had it
because it just grows back. So the money that she
spends on just trying, she can't work. It's so bad,

(14:36):
and it's deemed as not a priority, not an emergency,
not something that should be rebated.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, I guess the thing that I'm in the midst
of at the moment and sort of like unsure about
what the processes is is like, so now I'm in
a situation where I have an eight centimeter O very insist,
but there is still not an outcome. The wait is
still so long to go and see an actual gynecologist
around what the processes are. So even though I had
the scans and I can go back to my GP,
I still don't have clarity on what to do. And

(15:02):
it's been deemed as potential risk of tors so like
your ovary can twist and then you lose your ovary,
you know, And it's like, okay, so we're all on
the same page with this now, but what am I
supposed to do with this information?

Speaker 1 (15:13):
And I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I just feel like there must be so many women
who go through these processes and then you know something's
not quite right or you have an outcome, but the
weight times are just so frustratingly long to be able
to do anything about it. And it's not just the
weight times, it's the cost of it. Every scan is
so expensive, the cost to go and see a gynocologist
is outrageously expensive, and then the rebates are so minimal.

(15:34):
So I guess like the reason why I want to
talk about it is like, firstly, the only person who
will ever advocate for your own health is yourself, and
if you're not the one who's pushing to have the
appointments to see the specialists to get things checked out,
nothing gets checked.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
And that's been my.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Experience of this so far, is that if it wasn't
for me constantly trying to be like someone do something
about this, literally nothing would have been done yet.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
And then it's still just left to like, Hey, if
it gets worse, though, go to the emergency.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, going to emergency because it's too late. If I
met the emergency and I have a torsion.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
They're great, Yeah, totally.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
But also like if you are waiting until you're going
to emergency, the psychological toll of not knowing how much
pain is too much pain? You know, as women were
kind of always told like expect pain around anything that
has to do with the reproductive system, and so what
is the line, like what is the limit of I'm
not able to live with this anymore, I'm going to
go to emergency. Like it's really disappointing to me that

(16:27):
things are not I know, it's a systemic thing. It
is not an individual doctor thing. It is not an
individual hospital, it's not an individual practice. Systemically, in Australia,
we focus so much more on treatment than what we
focus on prevention, and I really, I mean, we're about
to come up to an election. There's going to be
a lot of promises made about women's health care because
it seems to be a topic that we all care about.

(16:47):
Fancy that like, go figure, I just want to see
actual policies brought in that rebate female reproductive care and
rebate things like and demetriosis, Like you have a very
insist that could fucking rupture. Like it's just so fundamentally
frustrating that we have. Like you said, you've got to

(17:08):
keep advocating. You can only do that if you've got
the money to go into it specialists. You can't do
that if you're going through the public healthcare system. So
what you're just supposed to wait until you're actually in
a life or death situation.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, Like it's it's just so.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
Backwards, and the psychological tolld that that kind of thing
takes is so heavy.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Michelle from Shameless talks about that a lot. If anyone
is interested, go and listen, Like I really loved listening.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
But she only last was her beautiful podcast sories that
she created.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
She only has one overy, but her talking about the
same thing, like advocating for your own health and also
not even that. She talks really well about just putting
up with the pain and being like, oh cool, this
is just it, Like you know, you're having complete breakdowns
at home, like physically you're so.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
In pain that you're dropping what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
You're falling to the floor, and then when it passes,
you're like, oh, cool, let's just get on with life,
like that's just a part of it, Like oh, what
was that?

Speaker 2 (17:56):
That was weird, and then you just keep going.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I think the biggest thing for me at the moment
is like I can't have the kids like crawl up
onto my lap, or like when I pick them up,
I'm so I'm so wary of it. Or we were
playing in the pool the other day and they're like
kicking around and all I could think was like, don't
kick me in the stomach. So I can't be so
engaged with them because I'm so conscious of the fact
that I'm in this discomfort. But yeah, i mean, like,
obviously I don't want to catastrophize it. It's not the
worst thing in the world, but it's definitely something that

(18:20):
I'm very conscious of and I'm kind of in the
midst of and it's really shining a spotlight for me
on just the massive gaps that there are for female
healthcare around gynecological needs.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
I mean, you guys know that I've spoken about being
diagnosed with pcos so polycystic avarian syndrome, which somewhat ironically,
does not mean that you.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Have polycystic ovaries.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
They're actually separate conditions. I do happen to have both.
I've had this suck at you.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, were hard to go home.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
But like, even speaking of that, I remember getting the
pelvic ultrasound that cost me more than four hundred dollars
out of pocket, and I remember saying to them, I
was like, Okay, so what's the point of this? And
they were like, we would just want to find out
whether you have cystic ovaries. And I was like, okay, cool,
you know we've got this fork yeah, yes, know what
happens if it's yes, what happens if it's no? And
they're like nothing, We just so I'm just spending four

(19:06):
hundred dollars to know that I've got cystic ovaries, and
then we're not We're not doing anything about that.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
There's nothing that we can do about that.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I just want to make that clear, Okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
There is no fucking research in any of these fields.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
And like I come from.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Medical research background, I know why there has not been
medical research done on things that have to do with women.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
It kind of comes back to like results and reliability
and all that kind of incredible misogynistic.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
There's no reason, there's no reason now that we do
not have research into women's problems.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
I feel like it is really an area that just
so needs to be put into policy and into research
and into grants and into funding. And we are going
to do another episode. We get asked all the time
in the Facebook group to do an episode on pcos.
We're going to do another one really soon. I think
actually next week we will record it with Dtor Eazy Smith,
who is a wonderful end of chronologist. I'm going to
jump on that one obviously because I have it, and

(20:02):
so if you have any questions about that, please send
them to us at Life on cut DMS on Instagram,
or we can message us on the Facebook group and
we'll try and include all of those so we can
talk about, you know, more of the issues of the
female reproductive healthcare system.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
A conversation that's been playing out everywhere recently in the
pop culture space and also across media has to do
with whiteloatus. Now, I will admit I am not up
to date with all of the episodes, even though it
was my vibe a couple of weeks ago. Britt you're back.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Episode one and then you're like, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Well, fuck man.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
The lack of the injury with a sist, the lack
of the intro music really got me. And I even
said it. I was like, I'm vibing it. I haven't
fully gotten on board yet.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
But I'm coming in.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
It's just not at the start.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I know. I know they really like Beait and switched,
didn't they. I'm coming back. Don't worry. I'm going to
catch up.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
But I have been very much across a really interesting
conversation that's played out recently.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I've been recently across the penis is what she's trying
to say.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
I'm really across the aesthetic penis, which is what we
want to talk about. Okay, So if you haven't seen this,
Jason Isaac he plays the character the main character of
Timothy Ratliff. He's the dad and there is a really
spoken about scene where he's talking to his children.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
He's also like kind of like off his face a bit.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
He's stone or has taken medication whatever it is, and
he's wearing a bathrobe. And then as he's chatting away
to his kids, he moves his leg aside and there
is a full frontal nude scene.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Of a very big penis now flaccid, but like a
slug y.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
It's a slug It's there, it's.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Thick, it's big, it's long, and the first thing you're
going to think is is that real? The first thing
you're going to google in that moment, I can guarantee it.
Everyone stopped down and.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Was like, was that real?

Speaker 3 (21:44):
That wasn't my first thought, to be honest, my very
first thought was not is that a real penis? It
looked very convincingly real, Like I mean, the prosthetics in
movies these days are absolutely top notch.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Did look very real.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I just looked at it and thought like I kind
of got more taken aback by the shock factor, which
I think is the intention of it, because there's nothing
and we'll get into all of the discussions around it,
there's nothing sexual about it. He accidentally flashes his children.
It's an embarrassingly funny moment that's kind of just played
off as.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Like, oh my god, oh dad.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
But the big questions have come off the back of
the interviews that Jason Isaac have had recently, because people
are no longer asking him about his character development or
about the role in The White Lotus. The questions that
he's receiving really pertain to whether or not the penis
was a prosthetic. Now he has responded and has had
some very interesting reactions to his response around whether it

(22:36):
is or isn't appropriate to ask a person if their
genitalia in a movie is a prosthetic. This is an
interview which has gone viral. This is from the CBS Mornings,
which is a morning show in the States.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Have listened to this.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
You know you're making its because last week we got
to see a full frontal and it was you.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yes, And I'm trying to figure we were talking about
being impolite? Was that you?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Was that a prothetic?

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Well, because we were debating it, because we were a
lot of people debating. It's all over the inside. And
it's interesting because you didn't answer the question. Well, I'll
tell you why.

Speaker 7 (23:05):
Because the best actress this year is Mikey Madison at
the Oscars, and I don't see anybody discussing her vulva,
which was on television all the time. Now, I'm not
talking about Swedish cars, you know. So I think it's
interesting that there's a double standard for men. But when
women are naked, Margaret quality as well in the substance,
nobody would dream of talking to her about her janetalia
or nipples or any of those things.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
And so it's odd that there's a double standard when
it comes to disco.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
Bit of a dud, dude, It is a George because
I don't think that people really want to know how
the sausage is made.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
ID is the guy who does the prosthetics, the same
guy he does the ears and the noses?

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Who says who's but in general, who's the guy you call?

Speaker 7 (23:46):
I genuinely think it would be odd when when there
are characters in some of the women are naked. And
here would be odd if you were sitting here and
you would never dream of discussing this.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I think if prosthetics were standard, we would.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
Ask what is obsession? And are you very obsessed?

Speaker 1 (24:02):
We're talking about it all morning?

Speaker 3 (24:05):
You know.

Speaker 7 (24:05):
Mike Waves is a brilliant right, so it was the
best series on televis of for a long time. And
what is the obsession with penisles? It's an odd thing
because you rarely get to see I think we have
to read a teas sale.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
You're watching for Long Television.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
The reason why I wanted to play that audio is
because there has been so much backlash around his commentary,
because it's so important how something that said verbally can
take a very different context when it's actually written into
an article, like a statement has a different tone. You
can hear from that that it is all said very
much in a jokey light and jovial manner. However, the

(24:40):
big question is raised, is there a double standard between
male nudity and female nudity on TV?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, definitely important to have context.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
We say that about everything because when you read that,
when you read the quote, it hits different to when
he says it. What I do think is funny and
interesting before I was about to saying, before we nutted
out what I do think is funny and interesting is
that he has avoided answering if it's a prosthetic, And
there is a part of me that does wonder is
that because you really want people to truly believe that

(25:09):
you are the owner of a really large penis. But
the funniest part is the kids in the show, the
kid actors Samnvola and Sarah Catherine Hook, they already confirmed
it was a prosthetic. So he's like, I will never
confirm that, like it's not important, but they've come out
and they've said, yeah, it absolutely was a prosthetic.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
He was dancing around going it's my fake penis day.
He goes, it's fake dick scene day.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Everyone like with his prostheticon, which I think is really
funny that he's trying to keep the.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Mystery alive and they completely just out him. His comment's
been very divisive online.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
There's been a lot of people that have been completely
attacking him, saying this is complete double standards. Women's bodies
and nudity from the dawn of time are constantly spoken about.
They're constantly asked about so many inappropriate questions in interviews
on red carpets. So there's a lot of people that
are really sort of crucifying him for his comment. But
then there's a lot of people in agreeance saying, yeah,
we shouldn't be asking these questions. Why is it important?

(26:00):
And personally I sit on the fence of both. I
agree with him that it can be deemed an inappropriate
question and it's probably not important to his character development,
but I disagree with him saying that this is a
double standard. What I do want to add is there
is a level of importance in asking if it's a
prosthetic for a bit of a deeper reason, Like there

(26:20):
would be people I.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Must know if the penis is real or not, but
there would.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Be people watching that that would feel completely insecure saying, Okay,
is this real? Is this the kind of thing that
most men have? Am I so out of proportion? And
am I so much smaller? And I know that this
is a deeper level, but I'm trying to think of
reasons why people want to know. I one hundred percent
wanted to know. I'll be the first person that's like,
I wonder if that's real or not. But that's just
a curiosity off the back of things like sex life

(26:45):
with Adam Demos. Remember the Australian actor that got his
penis at and it was ginormous and everyone was like,
we need to know if Bro's penis is real?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Like is this what other people are playing with?

Speaker 6 (26:56):
Look?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
It is an interesting take on it, though, and there
is truth to what he is says. The reality is
if you saw a woman nude on TV, you would
never respond like herd boobs were ginormous. We wouldn't speak
about it in the same way.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I was just thinking to remember blurred lines with Emily Radtowski.
That's how she kind of got thrust into the spotlight.
That was pretty much the headline was that her boobs
were ginormous. Yeah, and again the question of like are
they real or not? Was probably the number one question
in pop culture news that month.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I would like that year.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I guess the thing is is that often there is
a it's seen as more inappropriate. Like I think that
we've started to really like identify the dialogue around how
we've spoken about women's bodies for so long. But the
thing is is, I do think there's a double standard.
But I don't think the double standard is around the
questioning of whether it is or isn a prosthetic. I
think the double standard is the fact that we are
so desensitized to seeing female bodies on TV. It has

(27:50):
been a staple of Hollywood for forever to show female breasts,
to show backsides, to show hyper sexualized female nudity, if
any anything, And we were discussing it, like female nudity
has been used as a way of making movies and
films and TV series more interesting and one of the
examples that I came across was like Sopranos. For example,

(28:12):
the dialogue between the characters may not have been particularly
interesting at the time, but the conversation that they were
having played out in a strip club, and behind the
characters there's like naked women walking around, and it instantly
creates a secondary dimension. The thing is, though we are
very unfamiliar with seeing full penises on TV, Like it's
a type of nudity that we've not had as much

(28:33):
exposure to. So when you do see a giant penis
flapping around in a way that's not supposed to be
in a sex scene, but it's just in casual nudity,
I do think that there's this incredible shock element to it,
and we're.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
All like, that was a penis. Haven't seen one of
those on TV for a while.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And I guess because it's it's shown so casually, it
also makes it okay to ask the question casually. And
that's what I think these reporters are doing when they're
asking whether it's a prosthetic or not.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
It's because the.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Nudity seems so non sexual and it seems so accessible
that I feel like it makes it okay to ask
the question, not that it is or it isn't, but
I think that that's where it kind of the lines
are blurred a little bit.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Absolutely, And the reason.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
A lot of people are getting so upset online and
the commentary so negative around it is because his statement
wasn't actually even accurate, Like his defense to his statement
wasn't true. For example, Mikey Madison in Anora, He's like,
her volver was out everywhere on screen, no one asked
about that. That's incorrect. Her volver was never actually out.
There were no full frontal Volver shots. Marcre Qualis Substance,

(29:35):
full frontal scene, He's like, no one's asking about her
if she had prosthetics.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
In fact, they did.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yes, She's come out widely spoken about the fact that
her breast were prosthetics in that movie to fit the scene.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
She didn't have the right breast to portray a young Demi.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Moore, and she was like, Hey, there's no magic pill
for having big, plump, voluptuous young breasts, so yeah, they
made them for me.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
So I think that a lot of people are kicking
off online because of that as well.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
So maybe if it didn't have that extra level misinformation
attached to the quote, people wouldn't quite be upset. Maybe
if he said, hey, would you ask a woman this,
the response might not have been so aggressive Online.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, I definitely think that it was a baited response
where women who have been objectified for so long in
so many different ways with there's been so many inappropriate
lines of questioning that have come from journalists and reporters
over the years, whether it's specifically around genitalia, or it's
around any other facet of the female's life like nudity. Wait, totally,

(30:28):
we've seen it all happen, and so using that as
a comparison to try and identify an unequal standard I
think is a real like it's a mute point. One
of the other examples which I found really fascinating Margot Robbie,
who was in Wolf of Wall Street. She had a
full frontal nude. She also had a side nude. She
had lots of nudes in that movie. It was all

(30:49):
very much willingly like there's actually she's come out and
spoken about the very full frontal nude and she said
that it was her who fought to have that scene
in the movie because she felt as though the character
required not to have this like censored version of nudity
because it just didn't make sense for her and her
level of confidence and how she used sex as a
way of getting what she wanted or her sexual I

(31:12):
shouldn't say sex, but her sexuality to get what she wanted.
There's a really interesting interview that happened actually with our
own Fits and Whipper here in Australia, and the question
was asked, I've heard a lot of time that it's
quite hard to find women with real breast and pubic
care when you're doing a period piece. Now, I know
that that question in its of itself is not as
direct as asking if something's a prosthetic, but asking a

(31:35):
woman who has appeared completely nude and clearly is doing
a period piece, the only way to extrapolate that is
to ask the question of is it real breast and
were you wearing?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
You know, is that your real puby care.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Margaret Robbie came out and her response to that was
I'm not sure that it would be difficult to find
someone with real breast.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't think that that's an issue at all.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
However, I remember on Wolf of Wall Street there was
an entire American room, a whole room full of Mercans. Now,
if anyone who doesn't know, Amercan is a prosthetic piece
of pubicare that actresses can wear. So if you've been lasered,
you can then put pubic hair on. I mean, when
has it ever been appropriate to ask a woman about
their pubic care and how their pubic care shows up

(32:16):
in a period drama. But the thing is is like
this is just another example of how this line of
questioning is something that is not unfamiliar to women. I
think if you're going to do a nude scene in
a movie and it's going to be shocking and it's
going to be gripping, you almost have to expect that
there will be questions about it because people are so
interested in it.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
I disagree slightly with the pubic hair question because I
think that it's a period piece, so I understand it's
a general question of curiosity. The breast part I think
was inappropriate, but I think asking hey, what happens now?
So many women are waxed and lasered, and there was
a real trend against pubic hair, but period dramas really
try to stay true to the time in terms of tattoos,

(32:56):
underarm hair, body hair epiercing. So I think that the
way they framed that question was okay. If they asked
her directly, hey, like are you laser? Or did you
wear fake pubic care? I'd be more offended.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
But for me, I sort of let that one slide
because it was a period piece.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
If she was just doing a normal nude scene or
something and people are saying, hey, did you wear like
a fake vagina? Like, I think that that is inappropriate.
In terms of him saying, like, you wouldn't be asking
about someone else's genitally in a movie. I think that's
where he has gone wrong.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Or just feels very out of touch.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
It just feels a little bit out of touch, well
not a little bit, feels a lot out of touch
because it's literally what we face and you don't have
to be a public figure to be facing this, And
I think that's the important thing too.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
It seems like a little bit of a false victimhood.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
You know, like, ask a woman about this, It's like, actually,
women get asked about much harsher and worse things all
the time. But Laura, something I thought was really interesting
that you brought up was the different ways in which
nudity is shown on our screens, and I was trying
to think of, like, oh yeah, because when I think
about the female nudity that we have seen scenes of,

(33:57):
and I'm particularly thinking about Bridgeton because it's kind of
top of mind for me at the moment. Whenever female
nudity is shown in those scenes, and there's male nudity
as well, like we see some bombs and I think
we see parts of penises.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Is that the plural.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
It's always done in a way that's quite romantic or seductive,
or it's adding to like the romanticism of the scene,
whereas in White Lotus anything that Mike White kind of
touches seems to be really different.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Well, female nudity, I find is very much catered to
the male gaze. And I think if you think of
any movie that you've seen recently, or any nude scene
that has a female in it, normally it is a
type of female. It is a conventionally beautiful, conventionally perfect
female nude, perfect brass, perfect volvera perfect but like you

(34:48):
don't need to even worry about the level of nudity
because not one's hanging out to see it.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Do you know what I mean, oh, I would disagree slightly,
probably ninety fiercent of the time.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
But I mean Nicola Coglin, who was from Bridgeton, who
did her nude scene, and she was constantly trolled and
asked about that, like how brave you are and how
did you do that? Being the weight that you are.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
She got a lot to push back and she was like, Hey,
I'm a beautiful woman. I love how I look and
I'm confident.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
She has some line about having perfect tips. Yes, she's
really funny.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
The thing is, you're always going to be able to
find outliers. But what I'm talking about is the majority example,
and I absolutely know that there will be I'm sure
that if you go back through the rolodex of things
that you've seen, you might have one reference to an
old woman who is naked, or one reference to a
larger woman who is naked. Like I'm sure that there
are references. The majority of female nudity on our screens

(35:35):
are perfect nudity. It's the same type of sexualized nudity
that we see across all media. The thing that's different
about White Lotus, and something that I find particularly entertaining,
is that the nudity that is being shown isn't nudity
that's created for men to watch and enjoy.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
The nudity that.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
We're seeing almost every single scene, it's been like a
dude casually getting his penis out, or if you remember,
in the very first season White Lotus, one of the
main characters balls were swollen and so you saw this
like very comical shot of his swollen testicles. In the
second series, there is a scene where THEO James, he's
wearing a prosthetic which he described as being stolen off

(36:14):
a donkey.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
It was so big. Now he came out and said,
he didn't choose it, it was chosen for him. It's
not mad about it, Yeah, he's not.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I'm donkey Peters that there was a.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Scene where he was just like casually walking around in
the bathroom and Aubrey Plaza was in the front of
the kind of the foreground of that scene and like that.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
This is what I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
It's like male nudity is not something that is obscure
to the White Lotus. There are so many very confronting
gay male sex scenes which are only confronting because we
don't see it play out on pop culture TV spaces.
So when you see a man in a vulnerable position.
I mean, I don't know if you guys remember, but
in season one, the hotel manager was getting rooted from

(36:55):
behind whilst also giving a blowjob when they were all
high on mushrooms or whatever it was that they'd taken.
Like These are scenes that feel particularly intimate, but we
are absolutely not used to seeing them play out on
a series like this, So there is this like unusual
jarring level of uncomfortableness that comes with exposure to something

(37:15):
that we just don't normally see. But we are so
comfortable with female nudity in heterosexual sex scenes.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Mike Whitet has come out and said that he intentionally
chooses to do male nudity to try and balance the
level of female nudity that has been on the screen
I since he grew up. But I'm also going to
call a little bit of bullshit on that there. It
would be remiss to say that he does not include
these scenes for shock value. This is what people talk about.
These are the trending topics of White Lotus. If you

(37:42):
can google the most google things about White Lotus, it
all has to do with the shocking sex scenes. And
there is a spoiler here if you want to turn
off right now. You might not have seen it yet,
but one of the examples is, and what is about
to play out on the rest of the season, is
he has included more nudity but also incest scenes. So
the two brothers end up hooking up. This is what

(38:02):
everyone is talking about at the moment. They're talking about cool,
what's the purpose of this? Like, what is the purpose
of not only having incest because there's two brothers and
a sister, and I think a lot of people are
led to believe in the early days that maybe the
sister and brother we're going to hook up, which is
obviously a level of incest. But he's taken it a
step further and he's included gay incest. And this is

(38:23):
the currently the now divisive topic. It's almost steering away
from the prosthetic penis double standards conversation, and people are
now like, Okay, why have you included that. It's also
to shock, it's also to have people talking about and
push these boundaries on TV that we haven't seen.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
But Mike White has said, bear with.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Me, there is a reason I have included it, and
it will come full circle at the end of the series,
so he's almost like baiting us now to say, hey, okay, cool,
we really need to stick around to see why the
gay incest scene was included.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Which is interesting because also it's the same premise of
season two where the scene between Leo Woodhall and I
don't know the guy's name, I can't remember, well the
fake uncle it alluded to incest. But also that scene
itself had so much weight in the storyline of where
the actual context of that season went to.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, so there might be some sort of twist with
the gay brothers. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Maybe they're not brothers at all, That's what I think
I think, and they maybe they know they're not, And
maybe it's not incess and it's just gay relationship.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
I don't know where it's gonna go, but I'm hooked.
I want to see it.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Who knows. Look, I think like to kind of round
this one out.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Very interestingly to me is the backlash that this has received,
that his commentary has received, and I think overarchingly, women
are angry about and women feel angry about the types
of the line of questioning that so many female celebrities
have received in every aspect for so long, but I
do think it makes you ask the question, And for me,
I'm like, maybe it's inappropriate across the board, maybe the

(39:51):
way that we speak about male genitalia, even though yes,
there may be a rebalancing and we don't seem to
feel as guilty about you know, we've made jokes even
in this conversation about like his penis was huge, or
this or that. I do think that there are levels
which seem to be more acceptable when you speak about
a male nude versus female, And we do seem to

(40:11):
be okay with objectifying men in that way, and we
have more of a strong stance when women are objectified,
And the reason for that is purely because women have
been victims of it for so long and are victims,
and we don't see men as victims at all.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
But it's also has different repercussions.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
And I remember a young Helen Mirren being asked, oh,
aren't you worried now that you won't be taken seriously
because you have nude scenes. When has a man ever
been asked that there is no way any of these actors,
Barry from Saltburn, who's nude the whole time, has sex
with a grave there's no way he got applauded for
his acting.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
That is true. He fucked of a grave and no
one said, are you worried about how this might impact
your career?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Are you worried you're not gonna be taken seriously? Now?

Speaker 4 (40:52):
No one but women constantly asked that if they're like, oh,
are you diminishing your career?

Speaker 6 (40:57):
Now?

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Is your career on ice because you're nude? Like, it's
just means we're not taking it seriously. The only thing
that I think is a bit weird is that we're
talking about this as though they're not using prosthetics, Like,
it's still weird to me that for us to have
a dick on screen that we are like, oh wow,
that's shocking and that's interesting. It has to be a
fake one.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Well, I think it pertains to size, right, And part
of that is I don't have the answer to this,
so it's kind of why I'm not sure about how
to kind of go deep on it, loll. But that's
because it is unusual to me that every single penis
that has appeared in the White Lotus has been obnoxiously large,
and there isn't any sort of reference thus far of
a small penis on screen, And is it because an

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actor doesn't want to appear to be hel to have
a small penis. If they were to have a small penis,
would it be a small prosthetic penis, so then they
could easily say, oh, no, that was a prosthetic and
cover themselves. I don't know about what's the implication of
having only big dicks on our screen.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
I mean, I think I know what it is, and
it's because as a society, we associate certain personality characteristics
with genitalia, like we associate.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Big dick energy. It's literally the label of it.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
We associate certain things about that penis with the character,
and so it's I don't think it's a mistake that
they would be using them. It could be because the
actors don't want to have their own genitals on screen,
which I would respect enough, regardless of gender.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Because then you can almost say I wasn't actually nude.
Yeah no, it's almost protection, you know.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
But I also think too, it comes down to the
stigma that's still attached to having a small penis, and
that is also just something that society puts on people,
which this is not helping the situation by giving people
donkey penises not helping people exactly.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
But Barry didn't have a prosthetic. That was all his.
He was like, all that have Barry from Saltburn, that
just sucked the grave.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Oh he didn't have that.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
It was a baby, yeh. He openly talks about He's like,
it was all me. I was uncomfortable for the first
thing that I loved it. Did loads of retakes, did
loads of dancing around. He got really comfortable. But it's
a really interesting discussion.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
I do wonder if in ten years, you know how
you said before, how we're kind of applauding Nicola Coglin
Bridgeton for having her less than you know, societally acceptable
perfect breasts on screen.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Maybe we're just behind of that four men.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
Maybe it's gonna be another couple of years, maybe a decade,
until they're okay having their less than donkey dicks on
the screen.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Anyway, guys, let's get her accidentally unfiltered.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
All right, accidentally unfiltered.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
This is a very funny, quite an innocent one, which
I think is probably suitable after the conversation we've just had.
So my sister took me to get my very first
fake tan. I was young, maybe about seventeen at the time.
We walked in and the lady gave me a pair
of disposable undies. It was a G string, and little
naive me was pretty unfamiliar with G strings, having never
owned a pair.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I was a full brief girly. I put it on.
The lady came in. She walked in, gave me a
little look up and down, and just started turning. Didn't
say anything fast forwards.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
When my sister and I were home and I was
walking around naked, and my sister the ghast broke out
laughing when she saw a really thin line of white
skin up my front and the big try and cool
white skin on my butt.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
I put the G string on back to front. She
had one tiny, one tiny white live up the landing
Strep plaza.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Dude, you can wear those tiny bikinis that everyone's getting
around in Bonde Beach.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Do you think the tanning lady should have said something
or is it better to not say something and just said.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
No, You don't say anything because you can go into
a tanning booth nude. You know you don't have to
if you want to wear that G string back to
front upside down. On your head, go nuts like it
doesn't matter because your face. I always wear like the
disposable undies when I go into a tanning booth. But
I have friends who go in nude.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
I go nude.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
But you have to touch your knees, like you gotta
bend down, so they do under your bum.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
I've never touched it, or I have never touched my
knees in a fake dan.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
So you they don't do under your ass cheeks.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Do they tell you to bend over and pick up
the soapye?

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Bend over and cough. No, what they do is lean forward.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
You stay upright and you just bend like an inch
and the down. You don't bend over.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
You don't touch your knees. You don't.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
I need a check her.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
I'm going, where are you going? I got told to
bend bend forward, We presented my knees. I got fingered
at the same time. It was great, and they filmed
it so weird. They said it was a security purchase.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
My only fans count guys.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Wow, don't go to where Laura.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
They do a fantastic thoroughances. They really do. It's been
a while, though it's been a while anyway, Look it's time.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
To say it's so funny. She's like, yeah, so funny
when they make you bend over, We're like, what, I
watch your knees.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
What that's like the time when she were talking about
getting wax in laser. Yeah, but it was horrified that
you're on your back.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
I am still horrified there's not a uniform way. I
don't know why there's not a uniform way to do
spray tans. I do not know why there's not a
uniform way to laser your bomb.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Iron still find it so funny that you are on
your back and you have to roll back and hold
your legs up to your chest.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
It's so funny.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
It seems like a really smart way to access your
entire butt crack.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
Someone commented on the video and they said that they
were asked to do like a baby cradle.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
You know that babies hold their legs. I think people
would take it a peg move.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Whoever is that laser person is absolutely having a go.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
It's the same place you get your ten.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
All right, it's time for suck and sweet I'm going
to kick it off because I have quick ones. My
suck for this week is actually I don't really have a.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Suck finding out that you're not supposed to bend over. No,
my suck is I mean, I've already spoken about it.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
It's definitely got to be my ovarian sist, like that's
like high up on the sucking of the sucks at
the moment. But my sweet for the week, it's a
really great one actually for me. So many of you
guys have written to me about after I spoke about
Lola having a really really hard time at daycare, and
she has been. It's been months now and it has
just been this ongoing battle for her and for us. However,
we made a decision recently to send her to school

(46:48):
next year. So that was a big one for us
because we're going to hold her back another year to
keep a one year gap between Mali and Lola. But
the reason why we decided to send her to school
next year is because that will mean that she gets
to grow up a class, so she'll no longer be
in like the toddler baby room of daycare, and she'll
go up into.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Like the big kid room. And I kind of started
to suspect that a.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Lot of her upset and her behavior changes and her
like absolutely struggling at daycare was simply because she felt
as though she was in a room with children that
weren't aligned with where she was at, Like, she wants
to be a big kid. She doesn't want to be
treated like she's a toddler. And so we told her
that we gave her the option. We said, you know,
how would you feel about starting school next year? And

(47:29):
if you were to start school, it means that you
get to go up into I think they call it
the wombat's room, cute, And she was so fucking excited.
And yesterday she had her first day up there. And
she has not had one day this year where she's
come home stoad from daycare. And she came home and
she was like, she was like, I love it so much, Mummy.
She's like, I can't wait to go to school. So

(47:52):
I hope that I'm not like, you know, I'm not
prematorily celebrating, but I think that this was like a really,
really good move for her. I think she just needs
us to let go of the reins a little bit
and for her to feel like she's not the baby
of the family, but she has like her own exciting,
big things to work towards. And I think the reason
for that is because at her old daycare, she would

(48:12):
have moved up into the big room, whereas that this
new daycare, Marley got to go to big.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
School, and then she felt like she kind of got
left behind. She got left behind. Yeah, and I don't
think we'd really thought about that.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
So she's also used to being around older kids because
Marley's older than her, her cousins are older than her.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
You know, totally. So I'm gonna have two kids in
school next year, which is fucking wild. This is what
I just thought about.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
So funny that you were like, Mally is a genius.
I'm gonna hold her back a year. Lola's working on
her alphabet that I'm gonna think for you early.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Because what I've realized is that the spectrum of kids
in kindergarten is vast, Like there are so many kids
that are in KINDI that are just turning five now.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
So there were four.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
So I'm like, mate, Lola'll be fine. She'd be smack
in the middle. She's a resilient little cookie. She'll figure
it out.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
I am gonna do a u. I don't have a
suck this week.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Ah, I live.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
I really loved it, and I thought I had a
moment where I was like, Wow, I'm really grateful for
my life at the moment, Like, I really loved the
F one. I had a great weekend with Keish. I
don't include Laura in that because we actually barely saw
each other because you were on the ferrist wheel, just
stuck on round and around around.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
You don't have to include me in your fantastic weekend.
But I also had a fantastic weekend there. It was
really great.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Yeah, just different, and my suite would be around the
F one and we didn't mention it earlier. I did
mention on my Instagram. But Keisha and I got this
incredible experience. So we were lucky enough to meet the
boss of Red Bull Australia and Red Bull's one of
the biggest driving forces of the F one.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
And just so you guys know, I didn't know it
was the boss, and that might come into the story later.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
I wasn't going to be clarific. Keisha definitely did not
know he was the boss.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
I said things that you shouldn't say, but.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
He he was like, hey, do you want to go
into the garage where you know, well, it's like where
they drive in and quickly get their tire changes and everything,
and the whole team.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Works on it.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
They're talking and we were like, yeah, so we got
to go in and literally be in the thick of
it and watch it happened. We got to put the
head on and we got to listen to them talk
to each other as he's racing. Then he would come
back in He's like Max he was racing the time
maxi Stappan. Yeah, he's like four times world champion. And
that was a moment where I was like, God, this
is just such a cool, once in a lifetime experience

(50:17):
and I was.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
So in it.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
It's literally like you cannot buy that experience.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
No, you can't, and you can't take photos, you can't
do videos in there. You just have to really be
in it and be present. And it was. It was
really cool.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
So I don't have anything to flex about it, don't
have anything to show for it, but I have the
memories that I mean, I'll have.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
For a lifetime.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, And that's kind of where things got a little awkward.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
As we were leaving, we were talking to the people
who worked for Rebel, and Britta and I were both like,
oh my God, that was so cool, like, what an
unreal experience? I asked how much it was, but it
was like can you buy tickets to do that? Like
you know, and how much would it be to actually
have that experience? We were just so overwhelmed with how
cool it was.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Because I wanted to take my dad, so I was like,
oh God, I wonder how much this.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Would be, so bring us this.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
U to the guy that we were speaking with who
worked for Red Bull, and he was like, no, you know,
it's a money can't buy experience. You know, it's kind
of like it's our discretion, blah blah blah. And I
lean over and I'm like, oh, look, I'm sure there's
a number.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Like wink, I'm sure there's a price that someone could pay.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
And Brick kind of went hah, yeah yeah, and we
kept walking in about one hundred meters down the road,
brit goes, o cash.

Speaker 6 (51:21):
Do you know that?

Speaker 2 (51:22):
That was like the head of Red Bull, like I
accidentally just implied like I'm sure you could be bought
and he's like, no, no, you can't. She's like wink wink,
and I'm like, keit, just stop it.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Don't take me anywhere. That was so embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
So yeah, that was my no suck and I had
a really amazing suite.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Let's be well, guys. That is it from us today.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
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You read it and you're like, oh my god, that
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Love you guys, love the content. Been listening forever, don't
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Speaker 2 (52:14):
I'm like, what does it take to get a five?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
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Speaker 3 (52:18):
I think, yeah, I think if they've written like a
glowing review but then they've hit like the wrong amount
of stuff, the thing is like slipped off that That
to me feels like that was an unintentional thing. But
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Speaker 6 (52:31):
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Speaker 1 (52:41):
Yeah, you accidentally wrote that really mean sentence and then
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Speaker 5 (52:44):
That was accident.

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