Donald Trump - The Pussies Grabbed Back

Hey Lifers!
First up today, we hear what 'Life Uncut' could have been. We also went on holidays to the same place but actively chose not to see each other! Britt got into competitive arguments & Matt surprised Laura with a guest on their family holiday. More highbrow chat; Laura shares a tiktoker who got a bullet vibrator stuck up their butt. Unfortunately it was on. 

Then we are joined by political expert and journalist Charles Croucher to get our heads around Donald Trump's criminal conviction, making him the first president in U.S. history to be convicted of a crime. Charles breaks down Trump's cover up of a 'hush money' payment to porn star Stormy Daniels in the lead up to his presidential election in 2016. We break down whether it's likely Trump will go to jail, whether he could run for president from prison and what other cases might be coming up in the future. 

We speak about what the actual crime was, and how Trump's team tried to use everything in their power to shame and silence a porn star, claiming that she wasn't a credible witness simply because of her job.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Life on Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose
lands were never seated. We pay our respects to their
elders past and present.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was
recorded on Gadigal Land.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey guys, wo ma No, Hi guys, and welcome back
to another episode of Life Uncut.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'm Brittany, I'm Laura. Why are you saying Noah's yelling
at me across the room.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
No, we were just having to laugh about what we
were going to call our podcast five years ago.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
So okay, when we very first started a Life on Cut,
we had brainstorming sessions.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
We all had ideas.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
My idea gets brought up as being poo pooed all
the time because it's the only one I remember.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I wish I remembered what I put forward more, but
the only one. We had all these when we say brainstorming,
we had a coffee. We had a piece of paper
and pencil. It was a pencil and anything was a pan.
Hey that's a brainstorm session. Why do we have a pencil?

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
But we wrote it down on a notepad, lined on
a lined notepad, and one of my podcast's name ideas
was Coming Up Roses, which, at the time, coming off
the back of The Bachelor, I thought it was brilliant.
And five and a half years on, we can all
agree that it wasn't brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
But at the time it felt very good, felt good
in my bones. Yea, it didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
It never felt good, never landed it. But then I
suggested a lot of names that you didn't like as well.
I just don't remember them. The only one that stuck
with me is Coming Up Roses, because I was like,
I think we should steer away from just being like
the Bachelor, and that's.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
All we are. Imagine now the Bachelor's not even around. Yeah,
would be canned. The Brittany Hockley Show didn't really do
it for me either. Oh that was like that was
did you just turn into my teenage brother? Yes I did.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Hello, welcome friend Laura here on the Brittany Hockey Show
on Coming Up Roses anyway, good to be.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
How was your weekend?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Laura and I both went away this weekend for a
long weekend. Incidentally, I booked it first.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I just want to say that, actually you didn't I
just didn't tell you about it. Our fortieth birth because
we went away for Matt's brother's fortieth birthday.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
It's been booked for like four months.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I just don't know the weekend and don't was nothing
in my life is like things happen around me and
then I just show up wherever I'm told to be.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
I know.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, so Matt had already planned that entire trip.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
But anyway, you did post a photo yesterday from Zulu
and Zephyr store and I was like, Brittany, you're four
hundred meters.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Away from me.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
I also already knew that too. I walked in there
and they're like, Laura came in here yesterday, yeah, like
and I.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Was like, of course she did. I was like, I
see that bitch enough. I don't need to see her
on my holiday. No, So Laura and I both went
to Byron for separate events.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
My event was I'm in Love and that was it,
and Laura's event was a birthday party, but we chose.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Not to see.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
To be fair, though, I did say this because I
was talking to my mother in law about it and
she was like, oh, is Brittany going to come visit?
And I was like, Brittany's here on a romantic holiday
with her boyfriend who she hasn't seen for five months.
I lay event she does it want to see me,
and probably more than that, she doesn't want to see
my children.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
She doesn't want to come and.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Hang out at the kids pool at Elements with my
entire family. There's no part of me, not one single
ioda of my entire body, that's offended by this. I'm
okay with it, and I understand genuinely.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
It wasn't just that if we had more time there,
for sure, but we didn't actually stay in Byron. We
stayed up the coast when we went to buying just
for the day. I'm just trying to show Ben parts
of Australia.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
So like with very little amount of time.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
It is like we're in the army, like I have
a regime. He wakes up in the morning and I'm like,
this is what we're doing today, this is what we're doing,
this is where we're going. Because I'm trying to fit
all this stuff in. If it was up to me,
which is laying in bed and probably have sex all day,
but he wouldn't see any of Australia in that.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
He's like Australia is amazing. Yeah, it's so warm. I
love it here. It's very moist. It's so warm, and
it's like a rainforest.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Sorry, Keisha, Kisha's sitting there already disappointed in us. Things
have spired out of control and we're only at eight
o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Here's funny, now, we've spoken about this on the podcast
before many times, the fact that you know, I've been
with Ben a bit over a year and a half now,
but we're always perpetually in the honeymoon stage because we
spend so many months apart.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Then we spend a couple months together and it's amazing, but.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
You're not really like in that deep living together, constantly
finding out about each other. But every time we spend
these chunks of time together, we find out something else.
And it's not that it's bad, but I have figured
out it's not that it's good. It's great, okay, But
this one thing is the only thing I've realized now
that I can look back over the nearly two years

(04:31):
of time. It's the one thing we always fight about
and I know we'll never ever be able to do
it without fighting. And that is any form of physical activity,
like any sport, golf, mini golf, tennis, badminton, frisby.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
It's the competition element.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
So we go to play anything and I just want
to go and play for fun, Like it's mainly him.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I just want to play for fun.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
But immediately we're like ripping each other's jugular out because
he's so competitive and he takes everything so seriously that
we were playing, we had a full on brawl, not
a brawl, but like an argument on the tennis court
at this place. I know there were people listening, and.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I was like, we are leaving. It was like a child.
I was like, get your racket, we are leaving. What
are you fighting about?

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Because he was angry I wasn't good enough on the tennant.
He was like you know, like he's like, bring, you've
played better before.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
I know you can do it. I'm like, well, obviously
I can't do it right now because the balls are
not going in. The balls are not going in. Have
you ever questioned like what?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Because like, I'm all for competition, and I'm all for, like,
especially as a parent, like making sure that your kids
have drive and like, you know, having that competitive edge.
I've got nothing against that, but you have you ever
wondered what kind of parent he will be in terms
of like it'd be like.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Drop and get me troney. That wasn't good enough to me.
I actually think I'll be that parent. Yeah. Yeah, but
that's how I was brought up.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
My parents were very much like encouraging of us in
our sporting. Yeah, like they were like if you're not
foo shoe let, No they were drop an elbow.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
No, they weren't like that.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
But like I just think, Okay, that's the one thing
that I'm gonna have to accept that I love. But
I'm either going to have to bite the bullet or
we're gonna have a divorce. Like I don't know which
way it's going to go.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I also think you should be expecting that when you
choose to be in a relationship with someone who's a professional.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Sports player football not tennis.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
You're true, but it kind of like doesn't it just
like bleed out into every sport.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
It's the nature of it, right. Yeah. Last year's fight
was over table tennis in Hamilton Island.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
That's what we have to speak about when you say fight,
Like to what degree, Oh, I'm proper surly, I'm like,
you've ruined my day.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
You're also grudgy.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's the thing that's the problem is like it would
happen and then you would hold onto it for the
rest of the day.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh I don't. It's actually funny.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
We walk away and I'm pissed off, and I'll turn
around and I'm like i'd be like, I'm sorry I
said that, and still away and he's like, well, I'm
sorry I did it too, and then we walk away
holding hands.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Like that's how we fight.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's cute, but we know that we're disappointed in each
other's behavior, but we hold hands and like walk off
and make up. But it's just that's just one of
those things I've accepted. So that was what we thought
about the weekend tennis.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Okay, Well, speaking of us not seeing each other on
the weekend, Matt I made a stupid real whilst we
were in Byron because his podcast so like his co
host on Two Doting Dads, Ash Wigs rocked up. Now,
you might look at that video and think I was
in on the joke, but I want to go I
had no idea that Ash was coming on our family holiday.
So it was day one and we were going to

(07:14):
see our really good friends Josh and Ash who have
a little baby Sage. I haven't seen them in ages.
And I said to Matt, oh, what time is Ash
getting to dinner? And Matt looks at me really confused,
and he goes, what do you mean? And I was like, Ash,
what time's Ash coming to dinner? I'm speaking about Ash,
our friend, a female Ash who we're going to dinner
with that evening. And he looks me in and he goes, oh,

(07:37):
did you know? And I was like sorry, what do
I know what? And he's like, yeah, you know about Ash?
And I was like, yeah, are we talking about the
same thing because we're going for dinner with Ash tonight
and he goes, oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you.
So Ash might he might be in town and I
was like, he might be in town or he is
in town. So there was because like stona Wood is

(07:59):
one of their sponsors for their podcast, right, and there
was a Stonewood Festival happening, and Matt had asked me
if I wanted to go and just pop into the
Stonewood Festival and I was like, yeah, sure, I'll go
and check it out, like no problems. Unbeknownst to me
that during him organizing this with me and as getting
a babysitters that we could go and do this thing.
He also had invited Ash and Ash was flying up
and I was like, oh, okay, cool, so you got you're

(08:20):
actually going to the Stoneywood Festival with Ash, not with me?
That's fine. But I was like where, Like where's Ash staying?
And he was like, oh, yeah, he's just staying in
the night at Elements And I was.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Like, giving in the second room that we hide in our.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Villain, he's on the pull out trundle bed. Anyway, it
was very funny.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
I was just kind of like, just don't go into
the closet tonight.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
There's Ashes there wearing my rope and my slippers. Why
are you like, why didn't you just tell me?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
It was so I genuinely don't care.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
It was just weirder that he decided to kind of
emit all the details anyway.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Thinking do you think you would have cared?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Not against Ash, but do you think if he gave
you enough notice? Because obviously he's made a decision. Matt
has waited up. Madd has been like I can either
let her know and she's in on it, or I
can pretend I forgot.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
So obviously his his.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Trainer thought is like, this is the best case scenario,
is I pretend I forgot and then it's too late
and he's already there.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
But also when he said that, I was like, do you,
like why would you pretend? Like do you think I'm
a psycho? Like how do you think I'm going to react?
Are you like trying to minimize and manage? Like yeah,
like why is your reason for keeping this?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I didn't go psycho and actually was fine. I got
to the Stonewood Festival, and I talked about last.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Week where you're like, fine, cool, I am the cool girl. Yeah,
you can hang out with your friends and our family holiday.
It's fine. I'll just be over here. So we went
to the Stonewood Festival. I walked in.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's been a long time since I've been to a festival.
Guys like love Stonewood, great beer do I love loud
outdoor music when it's raining and it's it was fully
raining and it was a festival and it's not like, yeah,
no it is. There's two different areas. There's an area
with laser beams and people.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Had their kids there and shit sharks sharks with laser.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
And then there was another area which was like a
big outdoor on like on stage band.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Oh I'm a loser. I'm a loser. I love that discovery,
that moment.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
So we were there for a while and then I
think I was there for maybe half an hour, and
I looked around at this one point and it was
so fucking loud. It was so loud, and I have, look,
my hearing is not great, and so I find I
find loud noises hurt my ears.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Okay, guys.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
So I was there for about half an hour and
then I just looked at Maut and I was like,
you do this. You have this moment with ash. I'm
going to go back and put the kids to bed.
But you know this was that's planned. No, he was
to be fair, we'd organized a babysitter. We were all
supposed to stay out together. And then I was like,
do you know what, the babysitter can go home. I
would prefer to be with my children putting them to bed.
You go to be his Yeah, I'll go home. I'm

(10:46):
too old with this shit. I literally looked around. I
was like, I'm too old for this, even for the
on stage band. For the on stage loud band Hurt
My Ears. Anyway, that was it. Look, we have a
great episode for you today. Now, the thing that has
been happening in the world that everyone is talking about,
but maybe not everyone knows the details around, like the
specific details is Donald Trump and everything that's been happening

(11:06):
with his criminal court case over the weekend. And I
spent the whole weekend googling and reading up on this
because I found it absolutely fascinating, and there was part
of me.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I mean, if you know the story Lauren's at the
festival with the on stage band googling Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
So shows the point of life. I found it so
fucking fascinating. So I was like, how is this adult
star She's single handedly brought down Trump? And to think
about the fact that there has been so many cases
that have been brought against him, but this is the
first one that actually has been prosecuted. And now this
all happened over the weekend, and we wanted to get
someone on to talk through the intricacies of this. So

(11:40):
we have Charles Croucher joining us on the podcast in
a little bit. He's a journalist and also a US
political expert. But before we get into that conversation, brit
there was something I wanted to share with you which.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Is less high brow.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Actually it's very low bra It's so low brow that
it has to do with the anus.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
That's how far down in the low of the brow is.
It's very mid brow.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Would you say, well, it's not about feet, is it.
It's about buttons? Okay, So there is a TikToker. Now
her name. I thought it was going to be about
your buttle. Her name is Baby Charlotte one at Baby
Charlotte one.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
She's a TikToker.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
She is also an only fans star, and she shares
a lot.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Of things very openly on her TikTok. Now.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I came across this on the weekend and when I
was also googling Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Funnily enough, and.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I thought this was so funny. First of all, I
found this so funny, but it was a PSA. And
it's a PSA around bullet vibrators and the orifices that
you should and shouldn't use them in.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Have a listen to this.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
This is a psa. Do not put them little bullet
vibes anywhere in the back region. Because I am currently
about to head off to A and E because one
is stuck in mine. And I'm sure you can hear that.

(13:00):
Mm hmm. This is going to be very embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
So she's sitting in her car, she's doing a like
a live PSA is she's about to go into emergency
because she has a bullet vibrator stuck in her asshole
and it's still vibrating. You can you can audibly hear
it in the background of the video.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
She's also she's visibly distressed.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
The poor girl is crying like she of course she
is the bullet vibrator in But.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
This is what people Okay, And I'm not overly shocked
because I spent over a decade imaging like X raying
people with things up their butttholes.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Right, This was a huge part of my job as
a radio.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
How many times a day do you reckon you'd have
or times of weed do you think you'd have people
with foreign objects up their backsides?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
It changed markedly depending on where I was. When I
was working more regional, not as often. Yeah, when I
was in the city hospitals all the time, it was
standard like query on the sheet, it has a question
mark and then it just says fo in anal in anus,
so query foreign object anus.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
That was how we would get a referral.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
And you just know that someone else has slipped on
something in the shower, because that's what everyone says. But
I cannot tell you. It's such a common misconception. People
don't understand what the butt hoole is. People don't understand
the anus. The anus is a vacuum. That's what it
works at.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Like, don't tell me that you don't learn things here
at laugh on cars exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
It acts like a vacuum. So like obviously when you
do a poop, you're pushing out.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Wait, do you want that noise? If that's sound effect? Again,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
So when you put something up, there's a certain I
don't know what the terminology is like, but there's a
certain level. If you had like a pencil, right, there's
a certain point that it's going up and up and up,
and your butts doesn't really want to take it, and
then it flips and it sucks it up and that's it,
and there's a point of no return and quite often
it's too far.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's gone.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
It's deep, and it can travel all the way up
your bow I have seen a rexona doodor and can
up near the diaphragm, Like, that's what it looks like,
a whole can of rexona. Look, if it's not flat,
don't put it in there, I think is the lesson
to everyone.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
That's not the lesson, Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
If you're going to stick things in your ass that
are vibrators, make sure the base of it is flared.
But I wanted to read this to you because I mean,
that was enough of a story. I was like, funny,
ha ha ha, but also decent. PSA, let's not go
sticking things in our Assholes aren't supposed to go in there.
But this article came up on Pedestrian right. Pedestrian wrote
they did it like a piece on this But I
just wanted to read you the very first line of
this article. The publisher is Michael di Laurio. Sometimes all

(15:29):
the girl wants to do is go full feral Kirby
mode and absorb everything and anyone into their hole. Imagine
typing that out as the first light, being like, I'm
a journalist and that's the first line you put together
to describe this story.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Also not true. Don't walk around being like, what can
I suck up there today.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
It's also so weird that this dude who's a journalist
has put this together and written that.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I was like, is this you living out your Fantasy's?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Like, I'm all for a chicks who want to like
have anal play, but women are not walking around wanting
to consume the universe in their asshole.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
If we're vacuuming up our aked with a but hoole,
do you know what I've seen up butts before? I
would love to know the list.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I have seen a toilet brush cleaner, a toilet brush,
the prickly end, the prickly end, the prickly and like
was a Christmas tree doing all its prickly tickly things
on the inside of the bout?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
How did they get it in there?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
The brush itself has the bristles, so I guess when
you pushed it up it would crush down. And then
I guess they thought it would open up on the
inside and the head came off the thing, so it
got stuck.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I've seen toy cars, lots of little things toy cars.
I've seen batteries very dangerous. You can get lithium poisoning.
Do not put a battery inside of you in any capacity.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
I know a guy who's stuck a toy car in
his backside.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Toy cars. You will not believe how common the toy
car is. I don't know why. It must be the wheels.
It's an unusual fetish or is it like a male
fetish because they have a car crush, Like you know,
our men love cars, so.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
They want to consume it with their asshole.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Because no, what I'll tell you is now that i've
I've never thought about it in this much depth.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Every toy car. I've never seen a woman with a
toy car up aer butt. It's men. It's always a man.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
At the time because obviously you're not working as a
radiogfer anymore and you're not allowed to talk about those
things when it happens. But now in retrospect you can
be like, hey, this once upon a time there was
a guy with.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
The car is But no, you actually can talk about it,
but you can't have any defining features, so like you
can't say where it was, who it was, when it was.
But I can easily say things I've seen up people
like this. Whole forums online that people submit the craziest things.
They found in peoples Asshole one hundred. There was one
on our forum that was a kangaroo's tail.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, people are pretty crazy, you know, and we're not
here to yuck anyone's yum. But if you're putting a
kangaroo tail up, I'm yucking you yum. It's an animal
that you're killed and you've chopped its tail off and
you're masturbating up your butt with it, I'm yucking you
yum in that sense. Any other way you want to masturbate,
go crazy, But if it's an animal, do you know.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I do listen back to this in this podcast, and
I think sometimes we try so hard to be PC
that sometimes things are said and I'm like, actually, I'm
not okay with that.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
But I was trying so.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Hard to be okay because I didn't want to offend
anyone anything. Guys, guys do whatever you want, and I'm like,
fuck that, and then I realized I'm like, actually, no,
I'm not okay with it. Actually, funnily about that, when
we went out to dinner on the weekend, we met
this really lovely girl and she is a lifer listened
to the podcast and she was like, hey, I just
wanted to check something with you. You had Stephen Kayemoss

(18:21):
on the podcast recently and he told actually unfiltered story
about how he had a dirty kink and he sat
on a guy's face and hadn't washed his backside anyway.
Going back and listen to the podcast episode if you
want to, She was like, I just want to point
out you and Britt seemed oddly fine with the whole story,
and I want to let you know how uncomfortable it
made me that you guys were okay with it.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I wasn't okay with it. I was like, no, you
can't ever do that.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Well, I think we came across to her especially that
we were fine with it, and that's kind of what
made me realize, actually, maybe we might need to be
a little bit more critical of these things from time
to time.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, let's start now, no animals in your ba hole.
On that note, let's get into the really serious political.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Er speaking of oursholes. Let's talk about Donald Trump. That's
a great segue.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
We were thinking about how we were going to segue
this because it's unusual for us, but you aound that segue, Laura, No,
it's unusual for us to talk about politics, American politics.
It's also unusual for us to have an interview on
a Tuesday episode, but we wanted to get someone who
was very well versed in American politics who could explain
the nuance as to why this is such a pivotal case.

(19:26):
But also, I think if you were looking at this
from the outset, it's very easy to go, oh, it's
one hundred and thirty thousand dollars, which I know is
a lot of money, but in terms of American politics,
I'm sure is absolute piss in the ocean. Why was
this so impactful? And what was the role that Stormy
Daniels played? And is it the affair itself that's problematic?
Is it the hush money or is it how that
hush money was paid out to Stormy Daniels that was

(19:48):
the criminal part of this case.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I think this is why we wanted to talk about
this case because there are a lot of people that
are more interested in American politics right now than ever
have been before. And I mean that's due with the
multij of things, but a big part of this is
a are we really going to potentially have an American
president that could be in jail like he has been convicted.
Are we really going to have a leader of the

(20:11):
free world that is in prison? And b the fact
that this whole case surrounds Stormy Daniels, who was an
adult star. It's garnered so much more attention than ever before.
It's literally the stuff that reality TV is made out of.
We are watching history unfold and that's not me being dramatic.
This is going to go down. This is unprecedented. It
has never ever happened before. And it's really worrying that

(20:34):
there's a part of me that thinks I don't want
it to It's a part of me the things that
Donald Trump is still going to win this campaign.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
He will become president again.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
But I think the interesting part of this case is,
and a lot of people probably don't understand from the outset.
You've seen the headlines and you're thinking, what's the big
deal about paying somebody hush money? But this criminal charge
isn't about Donald Trump paying hush money that's not illegal
at all. It's about him falsifying the documents of that
high money. So I think it's really important we get

(21:02):
that clear at the start. The second part of this
that is very bothersome is the way in which Trump's
defense attorney tried to undermine and take down Stormy Daniels
purely by slut shaming her. He tried to say that
she was not a reliable witness because she was a
very successful adult film star.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Part of me is like to be in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Four and think that that is an accurate defense to
say you like sex publicly, so we can't trust anything
you say, And I'm like, how are we doing that
in twenty twenty four. But then there's another part of
me that says, well, it's twenty twenty four and we're
probably going to vote in a president that's in prison.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
It's actually insane. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
But also this has come at a very interesting time
because obviously this all pertains to stuff that happened in
twenty sixteen, but now people are saying that the timing
is actually like, very politically timed to try and undermine
his new presidential campaign, and that it's a conspiracy theory
from Biden. So we wanted to speak to Charles Croutcher,
who is an expert on this, to get all of
the facts. But before we do interim, I just wanted

(22:01):
to share something that I think is beautifully enlightening. You
guys would all remember the very famous quote from Donald
Trump where he said you can do anything, grab him
by the pussy. The quote and slogan that's been going
around surrounding this campaign is the pussy Grabs back, and
we thought that this was a beautiful way to segue
into the chat with Charles.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
A song by Kim Bokbinder us.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
He grabscanusy Grab scan.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Ussy Grab, spat.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Grab scamusy Grabs. Charles Crouscher, journalists and US political expert,
is joining us on the podcast Today Live from the
US to help us get through all of this Trump
drama because the world has gone crazy, not a lot
of people completely understand what is happening.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
So Charles, thanks for joining us this morning.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Any time, Charles, I think I would love to start with, like,
why is it that this is now so heavily in
the media. Why is this all happening when what I
guess is this circulating around goes back to twenty sixteen.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Yeah, it's an old case, right, but this has taken
so long for the prosecution to bring this case, and
it's coming an interesting time with Donald Trump obviously running
for president once again. So this is a case that
dates back to the twenty six stands. You said, effectively,
the case itself is pretty minor in terms of the
matter of FARTI that restands some of the accusations of
business fraud. And while there are thirty four charges, a

(23:23):
lot of those charges are based off different chep stuffs,
so there are felony accounts in there. That's what takes
us to the new level. And the real reason that
there's so much interest in this case but from being
Donald Trump, is the question is what does it do
to the election that's coming out. What does it mean
if America is going to vote in a convicted felon,
which is a possibility and to believe the book makes

(23:43):
it is a likelihood in November. So that's the sprites.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
When you say it's relatively minor. Just for anyone who
doesn't necessarily understand what it is that he's been convicted for.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Can you run us through what that looks like.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
The accusation and in fact, what's been found guilty of
is paying money through his lawyer to Stormy Daniels, who
is a film star and effectively as hush money during
the twenty sixteen election. She accuses Donald Trump that they
had an affair with one night stand. Really he denies
that's ever happened. But the issue was that the twenty

(24:14):
sixteen election, Trump had trouble with him and voters who
was running against Cillarist Clinton. Clearly he thought this case
would be damaging to him and to his political prospects,
so he paid the money to Stormy Daniels as well
as a non disclosure agreement, and that was enough to
effectively silence her throughout the campaign with the help of others. Now,
usually if he did that just out of his own money,

(24:35):
that would be considered the campaign contribution, so they have
to write it down and like file the check stuff.
Now any journal looks through Donald Trump's disclosures and sees
that he's paid money to Stormy Daniels, he's going to
ask why. So instead to get around this and use
his lawyer, Michael Cullen to do it, and to use
through a business transaction. And that's where the falsifying documents
charges have come in as well. So it's convoluted. If
Donald Trump's facing a couple of charges here, this is

(24:57):
probably the weakest of the charges, but he's now been
sound guilty so this is the one that will stick
for now.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
So speaking about the fact that it was back in
twenty sixteen, it is an old case.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
It has been brought up now.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Obviously it's getting even more media attention because of the
heat surrounding Stormy Daniels. Who she is, what she has said,
the slander that's gone on within the case. But who
has actually brought this case now? Because we've heard Donald
Trump blaming Biden, saying, you know this is his doing,
He's trying to bring me down.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
He's corrupt.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
But we know it's a state level and it's not Biden.
So who and why has been brought up now?

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Alvin Bragg is the district attorney in New York. He
is a Democrat and was elected. So this is a
place where you elect your attorneys and your prosecutors in
some of the situations. So look, there's certainly a political motive.
He gets an amount of it, but he says he's
just administering the law and the jury sound with him.
He found that had the case. So that's why Donald
Trump is blaming Joe Biden. I think in many ways
it's just throwing accusation to a free camp, right but

(25:52):
Harry Truman, one of the old presidents, used to say,
if you can't convince people and confuse people, So that's
what this is, right, as much confuuring as you can
and accuse everyone Republicans Donald Trump's side. At the same time,
it's using Joe Biden as being old and senile while
also masterminding this court case and legal case against him.
So there's perhaps some inconsistency, is there.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
But it's actually so funny when you say, at whatever suits.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
On that day.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Yeah, it's hard to have those two charges at the
same time, charge and briden with that. But don't forget
America is deeply divided, and they're divided on the line
of the president. And so if Donald Trump's ten think
they can just get everyone to go back to their
corners by using this of being a political witch, as
he says, then they're going to do it because they
think that will win them votes. And it's certainly got
a lot of money over the last few days since

(26:37):
the verticalcent.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
It's out in terms of it being hush money and
the way in which you said that it's been transferred
to Stormy Daniels through his lawyer. Is there anything illegal
about paying hush money if it had come through the
right channels, or is him expecting Stormy Daniels to have
some sort of NDA around their nefarious affair. Is that
something that is actually totally legal if it had been
done through the right processes.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Yeah, I think if she signs the contract and it
is a mutually agreed contract between two consenting adults, and
it's fine. It is the falsifying documents, which is why
the case has been brought by the state and not
by Stormy Daniels herself. She was merely a witness as
part of this, and she had a couple of days
of pretty tough testimony on the stand as well. So
it's the state that brings the case against Donald Trump

(27:18):
because it's a crime, rather than the person in the
civil trial.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
So then why, I guess, would she come forward with this?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
What would be her motivator to come forward and bring
this information if she has signed an NDA, technically, regardless
of where that money came from, it's.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Hard to assign motivation. She came forward During his term
as president, she did an interview with sixty Minutes over
Here with Annison Cooper in the US and spoke about
what had happened. She said she was instead of a
shamed by what went on, and she thought it was
you know, this is a time when Donald Trump was
married Milanaiir had just had the youngest son, Baron. She
was upset by it all. This you know, this alleged

(27:53):
affair dates back well before the election. It was just
at that twenty sixteen campaign when the money was given
and there when he became president, she said she wanted
to speak out and have her say. So that's what
she's done, and she's certainly done more than that. She's
become a household name, particularly here in the United States,
and that's with it a whole lot of pressure elsewhere
that she's dealing with. So that seems the motivation. Look,

(28:15):
it may be political. She certainly doesn't like to hold
Trump and I think she wants to be president again,
so that's beneficial as well.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, and I think it comes back to the fact
that she wants to be believed like this is her story,
this is what happened, and she's tried to tell the story.
And imagine going up against literally the most powerful person
in the world at the time, and his supporters are
so ferocious and fierce, and I know that the level
of hate she got then, and I have heard the
level of hate she's getting now, like the death threats

(28:40):
that she's getting from his supporters.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Well apparently she wore a bulletproof vest. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, his defense is trying to make her an incredible witness,
which I think is I was just saying this to
Laura before we started. I was like, it's such an
unusual tactic to take in twenty twenty four to try
to slut shame somebody into being an unreliable witness. Can
you just tell us about what the angle they took
and what they were saying about Stormy Daniels.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah, I certainly. I don't think that would have won
the moment with any of the women on the jury.
It would have been hard to see that. And I
guess if you're defending someone in a US court, you
know there's twelve jurors and you've only got to convince
one that your person is innocent. So that may have
been the tactic. You put enough dirt on someone and
make them doubt her credibility is witness. They did the
same with Michael Cohen. He's former lawyer who has spent

(29:26):
time in prison, so some of the work and the
things he's done with Donald Trump. So you know, they
were the two main witnesses that the prosecution had, along
with some other journalists and people that have been involved.
But if you can discredit that witness, again, it's the
prosecution that have to prove that he did it. And
so I think that was the tactic they took with her,
certainly in America in particular, that there may have been
one or two people in the jury that could have

(29:46):
found that compelling. Clearly they didn't, because they all came
back with US thirty four guilty charges and came back
pretty quickly as well.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, they basically just said because she was an adult
worker and like sex that she that she couldn't trust her,
which is.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Why while sex work is real work, right, that's the.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I mean, it seems crazy, but also nothing surprises me
when you're talking about a country where there are a
lot of very religious slash traditional views, where where many
conflicting views around abortion and everything else. It wouldn't surprise
me if there was one person within that jury who
had those and upheld those strong sort of traditional values,
and that may have worked on them in terms of

(30:24):
how this is going to impact his presidency campaign. Is
he able to still run for president? Even if he
was to say, go to jail, Could he still run
for president?

Speaker 5 (30:33):
Yeah, and jail is one of the options. Certainly, the
smart people over here speak to don't think that'll happen.
They send to believe that you'll get to find a
more suspended jail sentence that will be handed down just
before the Republican National Convention, which is a big deal
in the electoral calendar. It's about the time he was
meant to be choosing his vice president and would likely
announce that decision. So it's going to take a lot
of the option out of that. Even if he is

(30:54):
sent to prison, he can run. There is nothing in
the constitution but from things like treason that says you
got run from prison. I think Boston might have elected
a mayor from prison once, and so he can't. And
he would then have the opportunity perhaps to pardon himself
on the other charges or parton himself on these charges,
which again we're just like the other thing is this
has never happened before, Like none of this is normal,

(31:17):
and so it's difficult when you play out what might
happen because we just don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
I mean, have a listened to this. This is him
immediately after he has left the court. He's literally still
campaigning the second he walks out the door.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
This was a.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
Rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupted. There's
a rigged trial and disgrace. They wouldn't give us a
venue change. We were at five percent or six percent
in this district, in this area. The real verdict is
going to be November fifth by the people, and they

(31:51):
know what happened here, and everybody knows what happened here.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
We didn't do a thing wrong. I'm a very innocent man,
and it's okay. I'm fighting for our country. I'm fighting
for our constitution. Our whole country is being rigged right now.
This was done by the Baden administration in order to
wound or hurt an opponent or political opponent, and I

(32:16):
think it's just a disgrace.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
So you can hear him still here. He's not even
defending himself anymore. He's at the point where he knows
he might not be able to travel to campaign further,
so he's literally standing on the steps of the court campaigning.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
He's used that courtroom as a campaign stop. Yeah, and
he's done a time and time again. He knows the
world's media there. You know, people are watching on now.
Whether it's cut through, everyone's pretty over politics over here.
He's got the same people coming in again, right. But
look the people at supporting, we're still supporting. They've raised
money off this, They've used it as that thing, that
sort of campaign platform, and now he can go out
and actually do the campaigning. Whether it works or not.

(32:52):
Joe Biden's team will be able to call Donald Trump
a convicted felon every day at this election, all the
way through to piling day. And for me, I wonder
in the suburbs where the really crucial voters both sides
in the last election of woman for that are targeting
what they call suburban women. So this is so many
times young mums, sort of middle aged mums, people that

(33:12):
are just trying to put third on the table to
their kids and go about their life. I wonder if
hearing Donald Trump is a convicted felon for five months
will eventually eat away at some of those voters in
those really crucial states up in the Midwest, and that
might make it harder to go and pull the lever
or punch a box or put a tick or one
next to someone who you know who's been charged with
these crimes.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Well, I guess that's the question. And you've been so
heavily on the ground over there. Are the general population
in America educated enough to be able to know the
difference with what is happening here? And I say that
in terms of will people just look at the top
line clickbait one that he's a convicted felon, and two
on Trump's side, just saying this is a smear campaign
that Biden has brought on to bring me down, which

(33:55):
you know, one of those is untrue and it's obviously
Biden Trump is a convicted felon. But do you think
people are to surface level that they'll just take a
headline and that's how they'll make their political decision.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
I think the other thing over here is the media
landscape is so divided, and again in many ways along
the line of the president. So those people that support
him are the former president. Sorry, those people that support
him will be watching Newsmax, you know, some of the
more right wing groups on Fox News and beyond, and
they will be defending and in some case parodying Donald
Trump's lines. Now, if there are people that are more

(34:28):
democratic based or liberal, they might be watching MSNBC or
listening to their podcast and hearing the same thing that
they think this guy's convicted felons. So in many ways,
people use news over here like a therapy animal right.
They can use it to prove that you're right and
to reinforce what you've said. So that makes it difficult.
The big question is, and the American system is so
convoluted and ridiculous when it comes to electing a president,

(34:50):
but it's going to come down to effectively five states,
And you just wonder I could going back to the
suburbs what they think of this in the suburbs. Chances
are they probably aren't paying attention to the cour they've
seen him go in out of court. When they switch
on after the summer break, before we get towards that
November election, this will come up and it's up to
the campaigns now they will have to sell that message
and be convincing and remind voters. The best ad campaigns

(35:14):
are the ones that confirm or reaffirm what voters already
suspect of someone I suspect those people that didn't vote
for Donald Trump last time suspect he's a crook. And
they've now got a pretty good case, the Biden team
to make that argument to the American public. It depends,
you know, it's not compulsory voting. It depends who shows
up on a Tuesday in November.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
You know.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Are those people that voted for Barack Obama then Donald
Trump in sixteen then went back to Joe Biden? Is
this enough to move them back to Donald Trump's side?
You know, he's the one that has to make up
ground on the last election. I think this hurts.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Is he facing any other charges?

Speaker 5 (35:50):
He's facing another couple of charges, more compelling charges, one
in relation to January six that's still being spelt out
and that won't be heard before the election. There's one
in Georgia where he asked the Secretary of State and
the governor down there to find votes effectively so he
could win that state because it was so crucial in
twenty twenty, and he's on tape saying it. That one

(36:10):
seems like a stand up and knockout case if they
ever get up to actually saying it, Because there's been
all kinds of trouble with the prosecution and perceive and
perceptions of bias down there. So look, I don't think
either of those cases will be heard before the election,
and that's where we get in that uncharted territory. If
he's elected again, he can pardon himself from these cases.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
What do you mean by finding votes?

Speaker 5 (36:31):
But he asked to find votes they were down by
the margin was around twelve thousand. Someone will know in
the comments and know what the actual margin was. But
he is on tape asking him to find the amount
of votes he needs to win the state. That's the
whole question, right, Is he asking him to falsify those votes?
Is he asking him like that? Sounds like mob talk
about a way of getting over the line in Georgia. Now,

(36:51):
as it turns out, it wouldn't have mattered in the
overall result. But given he is on tape and recorded
by a man who is now the governor, it's a
hard case to you against. Now he would just say
he meant count all the legal votes and you know,
purtane and go out and exercise democracy. But I don't know.
Some of the language there is pretty difficult. So it'll
be interesting to see if he loses the election in November,

(37:12):
then there is the chance that those cases will come
up probably next year, and we might say, don't Trump
back in court again and they have more serious charges
and more serious punishments.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
So is there any documentation that says anywhere, because it
is unprecedented that a president can continue his presidency if
he's put in prison.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
Yeah, I don't think there's anything that says it's against
unless it's for treason. And again, he would have the
option because the president can pardon people, so he can
pardon himself and effectively eliminate the charge.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Can he actually pardon himself because I was on an
impression he can't. A president can't pardon themselves.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
It depends on which charge and in which area. And
again this is all we played out in the Cooks.
This hasn't happened, like we haven't had a situation.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
You know.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Richard Nixon was the closest we got to something like
this happening, and he got pardoned by his successor, so
that was kind of taken off the table. There's people
that have been vice presidents have got in trouble for
I think Aaron Burr one of the early ones for
anyone that knows Hamilton. He was charged with once some
of the treason as well and got off the charges.
So this is unprecedented, This is not normal, and so
all of this is legal theory that I don't think

(38:14):
anyone ever thought would actually have to play out in
the court. But we are steering around the face that
may just happen, and that would be up to the
Supreme Court, really, which don't forget Donald Trump put three
of those people along the court and we'll see how
they go.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
What does it mean moving forward now for Stormy Daniels, Look.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
She has been through a lot. It will be interesting
to see what she chooses to do. I think she
has come out of this. I saw it this morning.
Year she's done an interview and spoke about what that
time was like on the case. You know, it's been
really difficult and she will no doubt have some difficult
times moving forward as well, whether she tries to go
down the civil case or civil charges against the president.

(38:50):
I don't know what her legal options are without being
a lawyer, So she's going to be a household name
here and there are in a deeply divided country that
we have to go back to there are people that
we will see her that way for us. I mean,
you look at the situation with Monica Lewinsky, who has
only sort of found her voice in the last few years,
and she speaks about her experience. This is very different
and much more public, and I think we'll hear more

(39:12):
from Stormy Daniels about that in her own way, I hope.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
And Lastly, Trump's obviously going to appeal this case. What's
the likelihood do you think this will get overturned?

Speaker 5 (39:21):
But difficult to say. Look, the jury was very quick
in returning their verdict. The Trump team will argue that
it's in Manhattan. It's a pretty liberal place and therefore
it was hard to find a jury. They went through
a lot to get the final people they did. Whether
it can be overturned before the election, I don't think
there's enough time now. Things move slow. It's a glacial

(39:41):
legal system over here. So look, I think he knows
now his best chance I think of avoiding this punishment
and potentially further down the line is to win the election,
and that would be the all of America effectively being
the jurors when they have their say. He said that,
you know, this is the final verdict could be given
on November fifth when they vote over here.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Crazy America could have a president, you know, ruling the
free world that's in prison.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
That remarkable is none of this is normal. That's the thing.
We've become so to sensitized to it, like none of
this is normal. What happened in twenty twenty is normal,
the way that all played out. So we are in
some really interesting times at a time when the glow's
pretty vulnerable and we need the leadership. With democracies, it's
a minority sport, and there's it sunds like they're getting fewer,

(40:24):
and this one's looking pretty fragile.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
We don't have a lot of good choices. I either do.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
One's got to win.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, that's a scary thing. And it was almost going
to be Kanye West, which is worse. It's crazy, the
whole thing.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Okay, it's time for accidentally unfiltered, your most embarrassing story.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
We've got a very low key, holesome one.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I was working at an RSL club and you didn't
often get a chance to go to the toilet.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
This one day, I was absolutely busting. So when I
got the chance, I raced down the hall swung into
the bathroom. I would normally check the toilet first, but
things were urgent. It was one of those toilets where
the door opens outwards, so I raced in, pulled the
door shut. As I backed into the toilet, ripped my
pants down, and as I sat down, I felt something

(41:08):
that didn't feel like a toilet seat. I jumped up
and screamed. I looked around to see a little boy.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
No older than six years old, staring back up at me.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
He just looked shocked. You imagine taking your pants off
and sitting on a kid. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
His mum was in the toilet next door and was like,
oh my god, I'm so sorry. I didn't shut the door,
probably because he's only six, thinking that I must have
just opened it and noticed it there. She doesn't know
I sat on him with his pants on. I ripped
my pants up and ran back out without going to
the toilet. I should have apologized for scaring her son,
but I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Oh my god, that is that is extraumatizing.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
I know it was very innocent and not meant to be,
but like I feel for that kid.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
That kid is not going to be okay. At least
she didn't start weiing. She sat down side wing.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I can't, I can't do you know what happened to
me on the weekend. So we're at the pub in Burron.
I'm on the toilet doing a number two, and Lola,
which it's not my fault, sometimes you got to take
the kids to the toilet with you because she needed
to go.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I didn't know I needed to do a number two.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
It hit me as I was doing a week as
it always as it always does.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
And she just.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Opens the door and fucking walks out, just walks out,
and the door is too I was like, Lola, don't
you don't you touch it, don't you it can't get
up missed and she and she just opens it and
goes by Mommy going back to Daddy, walks out there.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
I am this poor woman runs up. She's like, I'll
keep the door shut. She doesn't know that I'm doing
a poop, Jude, not just keep a door shut, going
stop the small child. I was like, at this point,
let it go, let her rehome myself. No, not at all.
I don't mean that I love your disclaimers. I don't
mean that she should be rehome.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
You don't need to sometimes I worry that people think
I don't love being a mum, But.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
I really love being a mummy. It's the best thing. Ever.
They know that they're actually putting your kids on Facebook
mark place.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, people don't believe used free to good home, pick up,
pick up today, pick up straight away, please.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
On curbside home home honestly, box leave donation all right,
suck and sweet for the week.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I mean that could have been my suck, But what
was your suck for the week?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
My suck was coming to like a really hard realization
that Ben and I are not always going to be
able to share food. So like a big part of
my existence and what I wanted from a relationship was
obviously trust, love, respect, and I also wanted someone to
share food with.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Ever, because that's how I order my food.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
I would I would never order my own meal, Like
that is crazy talk to me.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I want to be able to order a few Hey,
do you have you up your bit? Will swap halfway, like,
because I want to taste everything.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
We're so far into that in our relationship that Matt
just knows what I would order, so he'll just get
a thing that will compliment my order.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Yeah, So Ben will be like, well, if you want that,
then order two meals.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
And I was like, what, but I just want to
try some of yours, like I don't want a whole
other meal.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
He's generally pretty good, but there's some things he won't
budge on.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
And I had thisation on the weekend that there's some
stuff I'm not gonna be able to share with him.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Other stuff.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
He's fine, but he'd be more happy to pay for
an extra meal then share some stuff, not everything. But
sometimes he's like, I also feel like the chicken. But
I was like, but I'm getting the chicken. He's like, yeah,
but I also want it. And I'm like, fuck my life.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
And you're like, we can't order two chickens. But we did.
We ordered two chickens. Can you believe it? That is
crazy to it that's same meal we ordered too. I
hate that.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I know, Okay, why would we both eat the same
thing when we could eat each.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Other's eat each other. We'll stop out. So my sweet
was just the fact that I went away.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I had a really wholesome weekend with Ben. We're still
falling in love. I made myself sick cut that we
had a good weekend.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
We function on. Cut that as well.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Let me find my feet, okay, leave them both in please,
all right?

Speaker 3 (44:54):
My weekend went, hang on, I have a real one.
Oh I thought that was it? No cool, that's it?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Leave it Okay, my sack for the week without a
leaking window at the front of our house, and we
got it repaired recently and over the weekend whilst we
were away was the very first time we've had like
proper big.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Storms and the leaking window is not a leak anymore.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
We had an indoor fucking water feature, so the window
had been installed in correctly, and now the whole wall
has to be taken out of the front of our
house and redone, which is like we've already been through
that process for two weeks and now we got another
two weeks of doing it.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
So that is helen her. That's crazy. Actually it's not really,
it's but it's inconvenient.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
And it's more inconvenient because my sweet is Matt's Mum's
back from her French trip that she went over to France.
She did two and a half months of French lessons
and French speaking and.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
How many French rendezvous no joking, she didn't shoot us,
never tell you, no, I reckon.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
She'd tell me if she got boned by a Frenchman.
She got a bit of baguette. But did she even salami?
What did she get some like a snick of salami? No,
that's not sliced. I no, she did it, but she
would tell me. But no, that's like she thinks that
those days are long gone for her. But she's but

(46:05):
she's back. And so the reason why it's even more
of a suck is because that is her bedroom. So
the front room in our house that had the leaking
window is her bedroom, and so we wanted to get
everything repaired before she came home.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
And now she's home, and.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
She's not gonna have a bedroom to be in for
a couple of weeks, so it's it's just very inconveniently timed.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
But I'm really happy that she's home.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
And I really adore that I have such a awesome
relationship with my mother in law because I think most
of the time you always hear horror show stories around
people's mother in law's, but mine's just the best.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
I want the mother in law jackpot. Yeah, she said,
we love Ellie. I love Ellie.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
She's almost like my you'll have her if you could
take her mother in law. Anyway, Guys, that's it from us.
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