October 16, 2025 • 33 mins
Hey Lifers!
Today’s guest is someone that Britt is completely convinced she manifested on to the podcast!
Teddy’s voice has been the sound track to her relationship hard launch, her engagement and also her wedding first dance! Teddy is the superstar singer songwriter behind hits like ‘Lose Control’ which has over 2 billion streams on Spotify, ‘Bad Dreams’ and ‘The Door’. He also has a brand new song out with our friend Tones and I and David Guetta! He’s currently touring around Australia, playing sold-out arena shows! But behind the tattoos and the big voice is just a salt of the earth guy who really hustled his way into the music industry.
We chat about:
- The first time Teddy ever heard his song ‘Lose Control’ on the radio from a service station bathroom where he had in fact ‘lost control’
- Teddy’s upbringing with Christian pastor grandparents and great male influences
- Teddy’s mum crying when he said he wanted to stop playing football and do musical theatre
- Whether he was ever pressured by record labels to ‘be’ a certain way or change the music he was making
- The hustle and not being an overnight success
- Writing from heartbreak v writing from a place of happiness
- Teddy experiencing his first ‘slow burn’ love
- Becoming a father and it changing his purpose in life
- Teddy being into manifestation
- Teddy’s ‘made it moment’ being quite unusual and it involves spy kids
- What it was like performing at the NRL grand final
- What Teddy thought of Britt's wedding dance
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Hosted by Britt Hockley & Keeshia Pettit
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Recorded on Cammeraygal Land
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Lifelong Cut.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I'm Brittany and I'm Keisha, and I'm very excited.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And today's guest.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
He is a man that is very special to me.
He was at my relationship hard launch, he was at
my engagement, and he was at my wedding first dance.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
He just doesn't know he was there.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And that is because if you listened to the podcast
last week, you'll know I spoke about all of these
moments and that there was one particular artist that has
featured the whole way through my relationship, and that is
the man, the legend, Teddy Swims. So I am so
excited to welcome Teddy here today.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Oh Teddy, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Thanks for letting me be a forward of your you know,
love story.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, I appreciate that you're the core part of it.
It's like, I don't want to say you're what I
think about when I'm with my husband is going a
bit far.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I appreciated.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Speaking of iFun Kurt, I think that my son would
be a really good guest for your podcast because he's
also going through life on cut.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You know, The best comment we ever got on an
Apple review was I thought this was a podcast for
uncircumcised men.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, said I thought too at first. Yeah, my son
is great for this.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well, now we know that you're circumcised.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, because unlike unlike my mother, I didn't chop off
the best bit of him, you know what I'm saying,
which I've still heard about it.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
No, we're absolutely not going to feature that. But two
billion streams on Spotify, which is absolutely insane. You've just
released new songs with David Ghett and Tones and I
Tones and I is a friend of ours.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
She's been on the podcast before. She's also the first.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Female to hit the billion club, which is pretty incredible.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, she's a dance monkey.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I think it's currently at three three billion times.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, she's unreally like and she's the best.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I love her so much.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
The first time we met, I think a couple of
years ago when I came here, a dear friend of mine,
Valley was doing like background for her.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And we met and she told us about it.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yeah, ever to and then I just got so close
with Tones, and you know, and and David and I
wanted to work on something for so long. So when
they sent me that record, I was like, yeah, no brainer, man,
tones getta Like, how how could this not be good?
You know, they got it's good. You know it would
be bad if it was bad. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, Teddy, you are such a special guest to be here.
But all of our guests we asked the.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Exact same question too, and that is that we ask
for your most embarrassing story. We call it an accidentally
unfiltered Okay, what's yours?
Speaker 5 (02:34):
So there was a time okay, the first time I
ever heard my voice on the radio, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
And this is how I think God has like a
real sense of humor.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
We're on the bus traveling through America and you can't
do number two on the bus because it's just bad,
so you have to pull over. Well, I've been on
a bit of a bender far for the course, you
know what I mean. It comes with the territory. And
and I was I was getting ready to pass some bubbles,
you know, and I was really like really hurting. I mean, like,
you know, like we got to pull over anywhere somewhere fast.
(03:06):
You know, it's just getting bad. And so I'm running
into the bathroom and this Love's truck stop. And as
I'm sitting there passing this violent diarrhea, lo and behold
Lose Control comes over the radio. You know, I just
start like I'm just mortified, you know, but I'm all
it's laughing, Like I'm just like, God, what are you doing?
(03:27):
You know, because like at this time, yeah, yeah, at
this time in my life, I like, I feel like
I should be celebrating this moment hearing my voice on
the radio for the first time, but instead of passing
the worst diarrhea of my life.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, how ironic, right?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
And so I'm sitting in there listening to this and
just like, man if the guy behind the counter right
now knew that the person that sings the song is
literally passing severe diarrhea in the stall the nastiest, dirtiest
bathroom too.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
It's just like not a.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Not my greatest moment, but also one of my greatest moments.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know, anything that's like the universe, like you're.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Like, show me a sign I got you.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It's also though, that would be something that I'm sure
you would have dreamt of.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So yeah, done that way, you know, And are you
even up there? What are you doing? I guess I.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Got to keep you humble. I'm yourself for the first time.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
That's one of the best accident in Fielters I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
This is a choice that I have to share this.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I I know that you're not supposed to pull on
a bus because I've done it before. I was on
like I was like nine, I clogged the whole bus
on a continue tour when I was like nineteen.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
No one told me they didn't have a sign anyway.
That's enough about that.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I feel like it's an unwritten rule, like you're just
no courtesy to the rest of the people on the bus.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, you've never had ibs ke shop.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, Teddy, you've said.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That Australia is your favorite country to visit.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It is.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah, Well, you know there's here in New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
First people that never really gravitated on us and loved us.
And you know when those first one covers on YouTube,
it was just that was like, you know, they were
I guess I think when we were like you're supposed
to be in bed and we were online trying to
like comment and reach out to every person, I think
you guys are just awake or something. And so we
were just like engaging with so many Australian folks and
(05:12):
got so much love from here first and so first
time we came out here. I mean, the people are
just so kind and I think I always will say
I think there's people that, like in Australia just believe
in the inherent goodness with people, And in turn, I
think everybody's just a little bit better, you know, and
halfier and nicer and not so like jaded by I guess,
like you know, bad things, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
It's at least to me, it seems like people are
very kind and.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Hospitable in so many ways here and it's just they're
just good people.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's a very different culture to America, for sure. Do
you find the celebrity culture here differently? Do you find
that you're maybe I don't want to say hassled, but
you're people are a bit more respectful with when they
approach you.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Oh? Absolutely, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I find that also people are more so like kind
of just say like hi you and you know, can
I have a picture, and I'm like I love you back.
Versus I think some people, especially especially men in America,
I find they don't want to ever tell you that.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
They like your stuff, but they want the picture too.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Like yeah, there's one particular guy I still think about
all the time that really bugged me. We were We're
in an airport. I can't remember what city we're going to.
This guy comes up to me and he's like, hey, man,
uh dude. So my my foreman at my work, she's
like a seven year old lady.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Man.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
She loves your stuff and like no offense, Like I
don't really fuck with your stuff at all. Like I
don't really fuck with you, but like like I listen
to like Chief Keith and like like you know, like
Kendrick Lauren stuff. So I don't really fuck with your
stuff at all, but like, can I take a picture
with you for for her? And I was like not,
I guess you just like literally like I don't fuck
with you. You want to take a picture with me?
I was like, well, I fuck with you. Yeah, I'm
(06:49):
like told that. You know. It's like so sometimes they
think people in the Miracule just like too proud to
be like I like you. You know, it's just weird
to me because I'm like, well, you don't have to.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Like you're a good man.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, yeah, good man for taking the photo. Though, yeah,
of course you have to say less.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
You know, if you can say, of course, man, what'll
center my love please? Teddy?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You grow up in a pretty conservative Pentecostal yeah, church environment.
I also grew up in a Peechecostal church environment, and
I'm curious about, like what was that like for you?
You know, what were the influences that your upbringing kind
of had on you that have lasted the rest of
your life.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
You know, I'm very grateful for My grandfather was a
pastor and he was always very very stern and by
the thing, you know what I mean, even to the
point that he was he was like not willing to
take like money from the church, like super like I'm
a carpenter, had a wood shop at his house, was
building houses.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
It was just always like very very stern and there
was no giver or take with him. And I think
there's so much like now, Like I remember the first
time I was playing piano at his house. I was like,
play at piano and he's like, man, Son, I you know,
I want you to come sing at the church one day,
but you know you got to make sure you're doing
it right. Man, He said, all these people out here
here now break dancing and hip hop and then caring.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
On for the Lord.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
And I wanted to be like pop nobody's like broke
dance since my mom's been a kid.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
But also if they would have break danced for the Lord,
let him break dance for the Lord man every Friday,
poor man, you know. But still so he was just
so by it.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
But I one thing I will say, like so many
of the principles that I learned of like how to
love people and how to care about people, but also
like if you believe in something, like believe in it
in the way you believe in it, and like believing
it and not be moved at all, Like we wouldn't
even be able to go to a restaurant if there
was a bar in it, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And I think like I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Say that that's like the correct way to be a Christian,
or I wouldn't, you know, say anyway is the correct way.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
To be it.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
But I always respected the way that he was just
so firm in his like what he felt and what
he knew was right, and no matter what, nobody could
shake that foundation. And so I think I got so
much from first off, the principles of loving people and
caring and you know, but also the sternness of like
if I believe in something and I'd have my heart
(08:59):
set do something, then there's no talking to me out
of it, you know what I mean, if you can't
shift anything that I have. You know, like I've always
of course open minded, but there's like as far as
like what I believe I'm supposed to be doing on
this planet, there's nobody you're going to talk me out of.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
It like that.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Conviction and integrity.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, there's yeah, exactly, conviction and integrity. I think
I took a lot from that.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I think something that stands out about you to me
in your music, the interviews I've listened to, your socials,
the way you come across is that you're you seem
like a very salt of the earth, very normal person.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You don't feel like a lot of famers influenced you.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And I think that that's a really cool place to
be because we see a lot of people go the
other way.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
But I've heard you.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Speak about it, and you just mentioned your grandfather. I've
heard you speak about the fact that you had so
many amazing male.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Influences in your life.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, do you think that that has played the part,
because most people would say they're this kind of a
person because of the female influencers. But I think it's
really cool that you're like, no, actually, like my whole
life was surrounded by amazing, emotionally touch men, well.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
You know, and those very same men are the men
that worship women, you know, like I do, you know,
And it's like I firm believe that God is a
woman man.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
And I mean my baby mama.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Is superhero, you know that that Like, so I my
mother is a superhero. So I you know, yeah, I
had a very very well brought up, you know by
wonderful men like my father and my grandfather, but they
also you know, worshiped women, and so do I.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You know, I think so we we know what the
you know, the who's really in charge.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Here, you know what I'm saying, Like, we don't play, no,
play those games about our ladies with him. Yeah, if
more men knew their place, then I think we'd be
better off in society.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
So when you were coming up into the music industry,
initially you were playing football. You transitioned into kind of
turning that into wanting to focus a lot more on music.
How is that transition?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Well, you know, my best pal Jesse, who still plays
with me to this day, and my band plays guitar,
and his dad was always like in you know, bands
and like playing guitar and.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Singing and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And his sister was in theater, so she kind of
got involved in it, and we were always jamming and
trying to figure out. But once I fell in love
with theater and like singing, it just was it was
a no brainer because be a five foot seven like
football really wasn't gonna like take off from me on
defensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You know, those guys are like six foot.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Four and three hundred something pounds. I'm like, I couldn't.
I was never going anywhere with that. And I still
remember when I told my mom, like, I'm not playing
football anymore. I want to I want to pursue this,
you know, And I remember her crying and crying because
we've been playing football since I was six, and she's
like pulled out all my trophies and all the little
all the little pictures and like all the little things she.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Had made over the years, you know, the jersey's like
we're a football family. Why would you do this to us,
you know, like solving, and I was like, mom, please
like just like.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
But she came to my first theater performance and I
think I had like all of two lines for the
show called Damn Yankees, And as soon as I got
done that, hertoon had changed and she was like, never mind, baby,
you were a star.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
This is where you belong.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I was like, oh, okay, So since then we've been
all music, non you know, all gas.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I said that she's just like my biggest fan. Even
when I was in metal band.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
She was coming to every show just like I don't
understand the music you.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Make in it, but you sound good though.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I guess that's something I learned about you, Teddy. I
feel as though there's not a genre that you can't touch.
You know, you've done the metal, You've done like now
you're I guess would you call it pop music now?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I'm kind of like, what ch Ondred does it fit into?
Did you ever feel as though you had to change
the music that you were making in order to fit
what you thought people wanted to hear?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
No, I think I think because my biggest thing is
I think pop music in itself is just meant to
be popular music, you know, And I think the most
authentic thing you could do is the thing that's going
to work. I think, like intrinsically, people like when they
hear a good song, they hear a good song, and
that's all there is to it, you know. And I
think certain songs want to go certain ways. And I
don't know, I just love this instrument so much that
(12:50):
like I've been so influenced by so many people who
use this instrument that I think it's always been a
thing that if somebody knows how to do something with
their voice.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
That like I can't.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I'm like I kind of figure out that thing, you know,
it like in the right competitive sense, drives me crazy,
Like I got to figure out how to do that.
I want to do that. I want to sound like that.
I want to I want to learn that technique. I
want to be that, you know. And and I just
love the thing. And I think there's so many ways
to like portray an emotion, and certain emotions are just
like better portrayed.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I think in certain avenues.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
You know, there's sadness is way better, and there's sex
way better in certain genre, you know what I mean,
There's there certain ways to like tell that story better
in certain places, and sometimes writing about home only really
fits right in like country.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Music, you know, or like this or that you know.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
So I wanted to be able to have authentically have
the way to tell that story and whichever way it
feels right, and if we are writing a song, I
just I always hate when people get in the way
of creativity because that happens so much in my life,
Like when I was first starting, or you know, maybe
the label or maybe this writer person with me would
say like, oh, this is too country, let's not do that,
(13:57):
or this is too rock and roll, let's not go there.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Let's but if it feels that way, just go all
the way there, lean in, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But that's the hard thing. And I'm going to assume
I've never been a global superstar. But when you're in
the early days of success, you have to do as
you advised because you don't really have your platform yet.
But when you get to a point where it's you're
at the level that you're on, you can switch. You
can be like, you know, we actually I don't care
what you think. I'm going to release this song because
I want to. But I feel like in those early
days for so many people.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah, some days you got to you know, you gotta
like at the early days, I had to play the game.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
There's some songs that over the years too that maybe
like if I wanted to, like, you know, they would
say like, well, let's let's do this song, you know,
and I might have to cut.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
A song that I don't like somebody wrote.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
But then also in that same time, I'd be like, well,
if that's the case, I'm putting this song out too,
you know, and they're like, Okay, that's cool, that's like
that's reasonable, you know. And so sometimes you got to
play that game, and you got to like and you
got to trust that your partner also like does want
what's best for you and works, and so hopefully in
that regard, like kids are signed to the right person
that also believes in them instead of just like trying
(14:57):
to mold them into something they're not. And I don't
think my label or anybody who's ever and more mean anything,
I was, and I think they were trying to develop me.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
And we threw a bunch of stuff at the walls,
all something stuff, and.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Then now I think we like over that year, those
years of us like developing and finding our groove and
our partnership.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
You know, like I can say that.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
My label has been so wonderful to me and we've
really made this happen, and it's great.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
They are in the room with us now, Blink twice
if you need help. They had me wonderful.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Okay, yeah, but I we love your films.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
No, I think a lot of people might be confused
to think that you and I hate the term, but
we're an overnight success. You launched onto the scene, we'd
lose control, and the whole world's fell in love with you.
But I think part of your story that's so incredible
is the fact that you hustled for so long, you
shook hands, you played the venues. Talk to us about
that time of your life, and I guess the lessons
you've learnt from that.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
The beautiful thing is about I would say, even with
the journey of Lose Control, is that there was not
like just a TikTok moment that really happened that blew
that song up. There was not like a trend going
around around that song that that happened. I think it
was truly us going to every city in the world
every place that would let us sing that song, whether
it was on the side of the street, whether it
(16:08):
was a karaoke.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Bar station, yeah yeah, whatever, wherever it was.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Man, I wanted like, no matter what, I mean, I
wanted I wanted it to be to the point that
like if if your mom was in the kitchen cooking
and singing that song, I was knocking on the door, like, yo,
could I sing that with you? You know, we were just
pushing that song and shaking every hand and meeting every
person and loving on every person. I feel like the
old way of doing things still works because when you
go out and you like meet the person and love
(16:34):
on the people, I think people were more inclined and
not the song. I mean, the song is great, but
also they're more inclined to be like, that's my friend,
and I want my friend to win, and they you know,
and that goes a lot further than just like this
this thing that is a flash in the pan. That's
an amazing song that everybody can agree on, and then
it plays for a while and drops off. You know,
when you're making the time and you're making the effort
to love on someone and care about.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Your music and be like you know, you got to
you got to push it.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
You gotta believe in it for everyone else to believe
in it, And you believe in people too, for them
to believe in you. And I think it's like, I
think that journey of creating those relationships has been way
more rewarding. And I mean in my heart as well.
But you know, as for the songs, you know, it's
been way more rewarding because people care about the human
you are, and then they hear the song for the
(17:18):
human you are.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I those experiences versus just a great song.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So you I've had a lot of artists say that,
you know, sometimes they write their best almost creative art
from the places that are actually quite sad and kind
of hard to be in. Do you feel like that
or do you feel as though you know you're able
to write from I guess any stage of life that
you're at.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, you know, but I do feel that. And in
my life, you know, prior.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
To there Be so you have been to think the
album's called, I tried everything about.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
There but prior to like, you know, a lot of
self love and healing. Jurey, I feel like in my
life I'd kind of put myself in harms way a
lot of time to just like even if it blew
up in my face, there was like some fuel for
the record, you know what I mean, which is like
it's kind of masochistic in.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
A way, and that not okay, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
And now it's a lot easier to be in a
happy place and know that I can access that pain
and write from that place and feel it again, but
like come out of it instead of living in.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
That dark place all the time, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
And I think that's the beauty of like when I'm
able to perform some of those songs, you know, there's
like there's like a three minute period where I can
just dive right back into that heartbreak and fully feel
it again and then be done with a song and
on the other side of it, say like, Wow, it's
good to be on the other side of that, and
it's good to like acknowledge that part of me and
be grateful for that part of me and almost take
that trauma and like take ownership of it and make
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it into a celebratory moment amongst a lot of other
people who have also felt.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
That kind of trauma, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And So to answer the question, I think I'm learning
as I go, like how it's easier to access that
pain in that emotion and write from that place rather
and try to always be in it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
You know, I remember when we started this podcast where
one of us was married, not me, and one of
his single, going on all the horrific dates, and that's
how it started. You know, this is eight hundred episodes
ago and six years ago, and I remember feeling like
every time I'd meet somebody that could be my partner,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Like a relationship.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I canned it because I was like, I need to
keep dating the ship people so I.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Have stories for the podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I was like, what are my contest?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I was like, I need the red flags that work
for me in the face. I was like, what am
I going to do if I'm happy? And I remember
thinking the same thing.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, it's easy to follow in that too. And that's
also just familiar too.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
You know, there's like there's something so scary about things
being good. We're also like us, a slow burning love
is us is such a wonderful thing for it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
To be like not like these high highs and these
low lows.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
It's like that's not that's not the thing that's toxic,
you know, like love can be.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Like you you haven't really been a slow burned lover
from what I hear, have you?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I mean I used to jump straight in you know
what I mean, I definitely But now I'm with raised
who I'm with Now we're like or for adult relationship,
you know what I mean, which is great. It's like
it's not this like codependent thing that was like I've
always thrown myself right into this thing, you know, like
like this head first love bombing thing.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
We took time to be together and I mean, of
course we had a baby, so we had to get
to know each other pretty quickly. But yeah, and we
still are, you know, but almost a couple of years.
But like we're doing great and he's great.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Can I ask you and I might be projecting a
little bit of myself into beers, going from being the
type of person who was just so intense in relationships
and like almost monkey branching from one to the next. Yeah,
totally having those high highs and with it come to
the lo lows. Did it take a little bit of
you actually having to coach yourself into what a healthy
relationship is going to feel like? And what it's, you know,
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what it's meant to.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Feel like I think to me it was it wasn't
coaching for relationship as much. It was like learning that
I was running from certain things within myself, you know,
and like learning to like love myself genuinely and like
taking small efforts to like even look at myself and
the eyes in the mirror and to say like I
love you, like you're like you're you're pretty man, you know,
(21:10):
stuff like that, like thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Right, But was it like that, you know, that kind
of that validation. I guess, like I know that because
I am someone who is like that, and I would
really chase those high highs in a in a relationship,
and I think that when I got into one that
was actually healthy, I really had to kind of had
to soften the edges at times because I was like, oh,
I'm not feeling the things that I used to feel,
you know. And I can only imagine that would be
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exaccerbated if you were an artist.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Yeah, well yeah, you know, and as someone who gets
paid to be validated by other people, you know, and
and like songs only work for people validate my pain
or happiness or whatever have you. That I'm writing, it's like, yeah,
it definitely gets to a point where I felt like
when I was first, like I always told myself like
these problems would go away if I was able to
do music for a living, right, you know, like all
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these things, like not just financial problems, but all these things.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
If I just felt like I was okay.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
And as soon as I got this feeling like that,
I got this this ability to just perform music live
of my best friends all the time, I was like
in the lowest place I ever been, where I just
felt like I.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Was either lying to everyone or everyone was lying to me,
you know, and I.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Just felt like I was like I don't feel validated still,
I feel like empty, And I was more nervous about
doing anything when I was so delusional before before anybody cared,
I was like, this is me.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I'm going to be the biggest of all time.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
And now all of a sudden people started caring, and
I was like, oh shit, I'm terrified, you know. So,
I mean, you know, again, I am grateful for that
time during COVID and like my second dad DP for
really like you know, doing helping me with that self
work and like you know, learning to love myself and
learning to take care of what I felt about myself
and because I hated me, I guess, you know, and
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that was tough.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I heard you say that you have more anxiety and
more insecurities now with all your success than before.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, in security has changed. And why do you think
that is?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think a lot of people from the outset might think, oh,
you know what you've You've got the fame now, the validation,
the money.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You think that it would dissipate, but you will.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Actually that's what That's what you would think.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
But I think I think there's just so much, you know,
especially with now having a kid, there's so much of
like I want to do the right thing and say
the right thing, and I think sometimes there's a lot
of overthinking that goes into it. When if I just
like just followed my gut, you know, like I I
think the overthinking just started getting into it. And if
I you know, I always ask myself like if I
could ever ask my buddy Jamil asked me this one time,
(23:34):
and it's like, dude, if you can ever tell me
one time that your gut told you something and you
just like gave somebody the benefit of that or you
just kept like, you just kept telling that no, and
then by the end of it it blew up in
your face.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Was your gut right? As your gut always been right?
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's always asked it.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
It's like, so follow that and don't listen to like
any of the other things that are And I feel
like I just sometimes get to that insecure or overthinking
am I doing the right thing?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Am I doing?
Speaker 5 (23:56):
And now sometimes taking that long to make any decision
is like a decision in itself, and then you've missed
the window and now you're just blown up and you're
overthinking everything. And so I I tried my best now
to just go for it.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Cut out noise.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, I just go for.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
It, you know, say, I'm just reassuring myself that I
have good intentions, I have a good heart, I'm a
good person. You're not going to hurt anybody. Man, Just
you got this. People trust you. You got to trust yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
You know, how did that.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Level of I guess I think what you're referring to
can be like kind of intrusive thoughts or that anxiety. Yeah,
how did that change? When you became a dad?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
It was such a.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
It's such a weird thing because the first time I
remember holding them, and by the way, Rachel did this
at our house, you know, like we bought this house
in Nashville and right in our bed like a damn
superhero man.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Absolutely accidentally, Like no, no, that was a plan.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I a video that she posted about like women, and
it used to be like such an experience that we
shared stories about.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
It was, yeah, it was incredible, and but I remember
holding him for the first time and be like, you know,
like I've always been his dad, you know, like nothing changed,
right really, you know, it.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Was just like I've always been this. I've always been
his dad my whole life.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I've been everything's led up to that, you know, And
and I think there's so much more, I guess, like
surety of my steps, you know, clarity in my steps,
the things I'm doing, because there's there's like nothing else
can Everything I do affects him and his life. And
so now, like so many people with their opinions and
their ideas, I immediately like, no, I think I know
(25:31):
what's best for my life through my son. Now, you know,
I know it's best for my son, So don't tell
me shit. I got this, you know, and I take
a lot less like I take a lot more risk
and a lot less help, you know, which is like
in the right way, though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
In the right way.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
What's a big lesson that being in your dad has
toy you?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Man? I think being more present, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I feel like and in so much time in my
life I spent just like on go go, go go,
and wanting to like I got to do this.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I got to like I've fallen behind.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
I got to go go go, And and now there's
so many times when I'm with him that like I know,
even if I'm just sitting watching TV and he's on
my lap, like.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
That is the most productive thing I could be doing,
you know.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
And that's like the most thing I can do is
just give him my presence and be there, and that
is the most productive thing I could possibly do. And
so now it's like again like I made my steps
a little bit more clear that like I'm there's not
this like feeling of like falling behind or I'm not
doing enough or this like you.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Know, everybody can do what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
And I got like there's plenty of time, I guess now,
you know, which is.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Like there wasn't before.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I felt like I was always running out of time,
and now there's like downtime.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Just feels like I need more of that, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, like you're being more intentional with it. Yeah, how
is it going having? Like is he about three months
old now?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Three month old baby touring around?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
It's cool, man, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
He's what a cool experience.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
He's got a little pass forward just sleepingggling.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, it's so sweet though, I mean, I love it.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
He he got his stamp in Auckland and came here,
so it's like, you know, traveling the world at three months.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
It's so lucky. Nothing cool in my life happened till
I was like twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I imagine telling younger Teddy, hey, in the future, you're
going to be taking us through your baby traveling the world.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
He was like Gandhi in a fast life or something.
He's got it fucking me, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Hey, something I find really interesting. I am a huge
universe manifestation kind of person. We have this debate on
the podcast all the time because not everyone agrees with
me and things like it's a bit wooy, but I'm
about it. I believe I've manifested so many things in life.
I believe I manifested this chat with you. You know when
I when I think yeah, thank.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
You, yeah, thank you appreciation, I'm like I have to
bow down.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
You are right, bro?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
How do you feel about it?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
I mean, you know, you claim what you want out
of life, and I think everything. You know, there's there's
so many moments in my life that like when these
things happen that are like am right about time?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
You know, like.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Versus like the nerves of anything or everything. Like people,
I was like, did you ever imagine life? Like yeah,
fuck yeah I did. Man, this is all I ever
saw for my life, you know, and everything if everything
is like so to detail, you know, like this is
what's gonna happen. This is gonna be like you know,
like I like what we just played at the NRL.
When we get back here, that place will be sold
(28:15):
out where Teddy Swims Like we were playing at the
NRL and they were like, you got to sign the
board while you're here, and I said, I'm not going
to sign that board. I'm gonna wait till I sell
this place out for Teddy Swims. That's when I'm gonna
sign that board and that's the next time I come
back to Sydney, and I guarantee you this place will
be that stadium will be sold out when Teddy Swims
comes back.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
That's that's the plan.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Well, when would you say you made it? I guess,
And because I know that it was a bit later
in life for you. You hustled for a long time, and
I guess off the back of that, was there ever
a time in that period where you were hustling where
you thought, maybe it's not for me.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
No, never, It's always for me. Every time. It's always
been for me. That's the only thing I ever had
in my mind. And I was like, I so delusionally,
just like this is I am going to be this.
There's no other way, There's nothing else I could be doing.
So but I think my made it moment I always
attribute to my dear friend Megan Trainer and Daryl Sabbar there.
(29:06):
He just turned thirty and it was right after I
did the song with Megan and we went to his
birthday party and he like rented out the Solo House
in La in the theater and I got to spend
his thirtieth birthday with him and a bunch of their
friends and watching Spy Kids too with him and you know,
Lexe Vega and I was like, I remember calling my
mom and being like, Mom, I'm watching Spy Kids with
(29:27):
the Spy Kids right now, and this is the coolest
moment of my life, like because I made her take
me to the see all of them in theas, you know,
so like so I was like, I'm like, I get
to call that dude my brother, Like that's that's one
of my dear friends right there. And I get to
sit next to him and watch Spi Kids on his
thirtieth birthday with him, and I was like, this is
the most amazing moment that I And he's like sitting
there just spitting all the words and still loves it,
(29:49):
you know. And I'm like, dude, I just I want
that so bad, you know, and I can't wait for
That's such a cool thing to be able to do.
And that was my mate up moment I think for
me is sitting with Darryl and like out about Spy
Kids and he was on the screen, the little kid
you know I met.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You know, one thinks that would have been your main
up moment.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I was thinking, like it wasn't when you were in
that toilet listening to yourself on.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
The radio, for I wasn't happy I made it to
the toilet, made it out.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
That's true. How I wasn't performing at the NL Grandson
so cool man.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
It was very nerve wracking and the I think I
had it all together until like T and T came
on and that's when I was like, all right, this
is the part that you don't blow in front of
two Australians.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, but it went well.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
That was a fantastic You absolutely killed it. I'm a
massive rugby league fan and I think you are by
far the best entertainment we've ever been able to get
to the game. I just I love having these amazing
international acts, you know when I'm all about We spoke
about last week on the podcast about getting people like
you over just elevates, you know, the whole sporting culture
(30:52):
of Australia. I was so excited and actually got leaked
on this podcast by two guys who were like in
the sixties that you were going to be coming over.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
And doing it.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I don't know how they got the word, but it
got out to the NROL community so quickly, and I
was very very thrilled.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I mean I only got sucked into it. And this
is what I think happened with a lot of Aussies.
I hate football, hate rugby. I'm happy to say it
don't come for me because you were playing and I
think there will be a lot of Australians that you
were the drawer card.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Well, but it apparently was the biggest one yet, so like.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Hopefully yeah that Australian TV.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
That's it was such a cool environment to be in.
I don't really quite know what's going on in rugby.
I could kind of fall a little bit, but I
mean it's also it's a huge time to be Brisbane
right now though you know they're like the men's and
the women's and they won the AFL. Like that town's
probably still doing backflips over there, so I can't wait
to get over there where my little Broncos hat.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well you've got your brocot to a jersey from where
I'm from, but we got the wooden spoon this year,
so I was like you probably maybe it's a green
flag to still support a team when it is it
is that's who I am and I know that's who
you are.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I'm still a Falcons fan.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
It says where it comes from, like love me at
my worse, You've got to be around at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
But if anyone wants.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
To go see Teddy, you're on your Australian tour right now.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Please go and get amongst it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Gone Gone Gone the new single with David Ghettotones and
I absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So make sure you go and listen to that. Teddy.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I cannot thank you enough for coming in today. I
know you're on a time crunch, but before you go,
I have to ask you, what would you rate my
wedding dance out of ten to your song?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
It's amazing. I saw Thomas showed me earlier too. I
think it was amazing. I will say that I was
expecting like Pyro you know that.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Did come later at the very end, but they only
let me play ninety seconds off your reel. We had,
oh my god, we had fireworks like Bali so like
they were far too close.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Cause I was expecting I was expecting to hear the
like the the kind of acousticker version of it, you know,
but it was like the whole drop and everything was
like like I was expecting the like dirty dancing, like
hold up, you know the big.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Thing, you know, my husband listening literally we learned that
long distance.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Is that more impressive? That's an eleven right out of ten.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Absolutely you. Yeah, I was very honored to be a
part of that. I mean, that's really sick being to
watch on over here. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Thank you so much, Thank you. We have loved having you.
This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Lifelong Cut.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I'm Brittany and I'm Keisha, and I'm very excited.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And today's guest.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
He is a man that is very special to me.
He was at my relationship hard launch, he was at
my engagement, and he was at my wedding first dance.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
He just doesn't know he was there.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And that is because if you listened to the podcast
last week, you'll know I spoke about all of these
moments and that there was one particular artist that has
featured the whole way through my relationship, and that is
the man, the legend, Teddy Swims. So I am so
excited to welcome Teddy here today.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Oh Teddy, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Thanks for letting me be a forward of your you know,
love story.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, I appreciate that you're the core part of it.
It's like, I don't want to say you're what I
think about when I'm with my husband is going a
bit far.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I appreciated.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Speaking of iFun Kurt, I think that my son would
be a really good guest for your podcast because he's
also going through life on cut.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You know, The best comment we ever got on an
Apple review was I thought this was a podcast for
uncircumcised men.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, said I thought too at first. Yeah, my son
is great for this.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well, now we know that you're circumcised.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, because unlike unlike my mother, I didn't chop off
the best bit of him, you know what I'm saying,
which I've still heard about it.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
No, we're absolutely not going to feature that. But two
billion streams on Spotify, which is absolutely insane. You've just
released new songs with David Ghett and Tones and I
Tones and I is a friend of ours.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
She's been on the podcast before. She's also the first.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Female to hit the billion club, which is pretty incredible.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, she's a dance monkey.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I think it's currently at three three billion times.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, she's unreally like and she's the best.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I love her so much.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
The first time we met, I think a couple of
years ago when I came here, a dear friend of mine,
Valley was doing like background for her.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And we met and she told us about it.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yeah, ever to and then I just got so close
with Tones, and you know, and and David and I
wanted to work on something for so long. So when
they sent me that record, I was like, yeah, no brainer, man,
tones getta Like, how how could this not be good?
You know, they got it's good. You know it would
be bad if it was bad. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, Teddy, you are such a special guest to be here.
But all of our guests we asked the.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Exact same question too, and that is that we ask
for your most embarrassing story. We call it an accidentally
unfiltered Okay, what's yours?
Speaker 5 (02:34):
So there was a time okay, the first time I
ever heard my voice on the radio, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
And this is how I think God has like a
real sense of humor.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
We're on the bus traveling through America and you can't
do number two on the bus because it's just bad,
so you have to pull over. Well, I've been on
a bit of a bender far for the course, you
know what I mean. It comes with the territory. And
and I was I was getting ready to pass some bubbles,
you know, and I was really like really hurting. I mean, like,
you know, like we got to pull over anywhere somewhere fast.
(03:06):
You know, it's just getting bad. And so I'm running
into the bathroom and this Love's truck stop. And as
I'm sitting there passing this violent diarrhea, lo and behold
Lose Control comes over the radio. You know, I just
start like I'm just mortified, you know, but I'm all
it's laughing, Like I'm just like, God, what are you doing?
(03:27):
You know, because like at this time, yeah, yeah, at
this time in my life, I like, I feel like
I should be celebrating this moment hearing my voice on
the radio for the first time, but instead of passing
the worst diarrhea of my life.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, how ironic, right?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
And so I'm sitting in there listening to this and
just like, man if the guy behind the counter right
now knew that the person that sings the song is
literally passing severe diarrhea in the stall the nastiest, dirtiest
bathroom too.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
It's just like not a.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Not my greatest moment, but also one of my greatest moments.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know, anything that's like the universe, like you're.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Like, show me a sign I got you.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
It's also though, that would be something that I'm sure
you would have dreamt of.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So yeah, done that way, you know, And are you
even up there? What are you doing? I guess I.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Got to keep you humble. I'm yourself for the first time.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
That's one of the best accident in Fielters I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
This is a choice that I have to share this.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I I know that you're not supposed to pull on
a bus because I've done it before. I was on
like I was like nine, I clogged the whole bus
on a continue tour when I was like nineteen.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
No one told me they didn't have a sign anyway.
That's enough about that.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I feel like it's an unwritten rule, like you're just
no courtesy to the rest of the people on the bus.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, you've never had ibs ke shop.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, Teddy, you've said.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That Australia is your favorite country to visit.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It is.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah, Well, you know there's here in New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
First people that never really gravitated on us and loved us.
And you know when those first one covers on YouTube,
it was just that was like, you know, they were
I guess I think when we were like you're supposed
to be in bed and we were online trying to
like comment and reach out to every person, I think
you guys are just awake or something. And so we
were just like engaging with so many Australian folks and
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got so much love from here first and so first
time we came out here. I mean, the people are
just so kind and I think I always will say
I think there's people that, like in Australia just believe
in the inherent goodness with people, And in turn, I
think everybody's just a little bit better, you know, and
halfier and nicer and not so like jaded by I guess,
like you know, bad things, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
It's at least to me, it seems like people are
very kind and.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Hospitable in so many ways here and it's just they're
just good people.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's a very different culture to America, for sure. Do
you find the celebrity culture here differently? Do you find
that you're maybe I don't want to say hassled, but
you're people are a bit more respectful with when they
approach you.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Oh? Absolutely, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I find that also people are more so like kind
of just say like hi you and you know, can
I have a picture, and I'm like I love you back.
Versus I think some people, especially especially men in America,
I find they don't want to ever tell you that.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
They like your stuff, but they want the picture too.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Like yeah, there's one particular guy I still think about
all the time that really bugged me. We were We're
in an airport. I can't remember what city we're going to.
This guy comes up to me and he's like, hey, man,
uh dude. So my my foreman at my work, she's
like a seven year old lady.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Man.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
She loves your stuff and like no offense, Like I
don't really fuck with your stuff at all. Like I
don't really fuck with you, but like like I listen
to like Chief Keith and like like you know, like
Kendrick Lauren stuff. So I don't really fuck with your
stuff at all, but like, can I take a picture
with you for for her? And I was like not,
I guess you just like literally like I don't fuck
with you. You want to take a picture with me?
I was like, well, I fuck with you. Yeah, I'm
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like told that. You know. It's like so sometimes they
think people in the Miracule just like too proud to
be like I like you. You know, it's just weird
to me because I'm like, well, you don't have to.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Like you're a good man.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, yeah, good man for taking the photo. Though, yeah,
of course you have to say less.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
You know, if you can say, of course, man, what'll
center my love please? Teddy?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You grow up in a pretty conservative Pentecostal yeah, church environment.
I also grew up in a Peechecostal church environment, and
I'm curious about, like what was that like for you?
You know, what were the influences that your upbringing kind
of had on you that have lasted the rest of
your life.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
You know, I'm very grateful for My grandfather was a
pastor and he was always very very stern and by
the thing, you know what I mean, even to the
point that he was he was like not willing to
take like money from the church, like super like I'm
a carpenter, had a wood shop at his house, was
building houses.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
It was just always like very very stern and there
was no giver or take with him. And I think
there's so much like now, Like I remember the first
time I was playing piano at his house. I was like,
play at piano and he's like, man, Son, I you know,
I want you to come sing at the church one day,
but you know you got to make sure you're doing
it right. Man, He said, all these people out here
here now break dancing and hip hop and then caring.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
On for the Lord.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
And I wanted to be like pop nobody's like broke
dance since my mom's been a kid.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
But also if they would have break danced for the Lord,
let him break dance for the Lord man every Friday,
poor man, you know. But still so he was just
so by it.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
But I one thing I will say, like so many
of the principles that I learned of like how to
love people and how to care about people, but also
like if you believe in something, like believe in it
in the way you believe in it, and like believing
it and not be moved at all, Like we wouldn't
even be able to go to a restaurant if there
was a bar in it, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And I think like I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Say that that's like the correct way to be a Christian,
or I wouldn't, you know, say anyway is the correct way.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
To be it.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
But I always respected the way that he was just
so firm in his like what he felt and what
he knew was right, and no matter what, nobody could
shake that foundation. And so I think I got so
much from first off, the principles of loving people and
caring and you know, but also the sternness of like
if I believe in something and I'd have my heart
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set do something, then there's no talking to me out
of it, you know what I mean, if you can't
shift anything that I have. You know, like I've always
of course open minded, but there's like as far as
like what I believe I'm supposed to be doing on
this planet, there's nobody you're going to talk me out of.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
It like that.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Conviction and integrity.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, there's yeah, exactly, conviction and integrity. I think
I took a lot from that.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I think something that stands out about you to me
in your music, the interviews I've listened to, your socials,
the way you come across is that you're you seem
like a very salt of the earth, very normal person.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You don't feel like a lot of famers influenced you.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And I think that that's a really cool place to
be because we see a lot of people go the
other way.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
But I've heard you.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Speak about it, and you just mentioned your grandfather. I've
heard you speak about the fact that you had so
many amazing male.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Influences in your life.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, do you think that that has played the part,
because most people would say they're this kind of a
person because of the female influencers. But I think it's
really cool that you're like, no, actually, like my whole
life was surrounded by amazing, emotionally touch men, well.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
You know, and those very same men are the men
that worship women, you know, like I do, you know,
And it's like I firm believe that God is a
woman man.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
And I mean my baby mama.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Is superhero, you know that that Like, so I my
mother is a superhero. So I you know, yeah, I
had a very very well brought up, you know by
wonderful men like my father and my grandfather, but they
also you know, worshiped women, and so do I.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You know, I think so we we know what the
you know, the who's really in charge.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Here, you know what I'm saying, Like, we don't play, no,
play those games about our ladies with him. Yeah, if
more men knew their place, then I think we'd be
better off in society.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
So when you were coming up into the music industry,
initially you were playing football. You transitioned into kind of
turning that into wanting to focus a lot more on music.
How is that transition?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Well, you know, my best pal Jesse, who still plays
with me to this day, and my band plays guitar,
and his dad was always like in you know, bands
and like playing guitar and.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Singing and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And his sister was in theater, so she kind of
got involved in it, and we were always jamming and
trying to figure out. But once I fell in love
with theater and like singing, it just was it was
a no brainer because be a five foot seven like
football really wasn't gonna like take off from me on
defensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You know, those guys are like six foot.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Four and three hundred something pounds. I'm like, I couldn't.
I was never going anywhere with that. And I still
remember when I told my mom, like, I'm not playing
football anymore. I want to I want to pursue this,
you know, And I remember her crying and crying because
we've been playing football since I was six, and she's
like pulled out all my trophies and all the little
all the little pictures and like all the little things she.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Had made over the years, you know, the jersey's like
we're a football family. Why would you do this to us,
you know, like solving, and I was like, mom, please
like just like.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
But she came to my first theater performance and I
think I had like all of two lines for the
show called Damn Yankees, And as soon as I got
done that, hertoon had changed and she was like, never mind, baby,
you were a star.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
This is where you belong.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I was like, oh, okay, So since then we've been
all music, non you know, all gas.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I said that she's just like my biggest fan. Even
when I was in metal band.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
She was coming to every show just like I don't
understand the music you.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Make in it, but you sound good though.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I guess that's something I learned about you, Teddy. I
feel as though there's not a genre that you can't touch.
You know, you've done the metal, You've done like now
you're I guess would you call it pop music now?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I'm kind of like, what ch Ondred does it fit into?
Did you ever feel as though you had to change
the music that you were making in order to fit
what you thought people wanted to hear?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
No, I think I think because my biggest thing is
I think pop music in itself is just meant to
be popular music, you know, And I think the most
authentic thing you could do is the thing that's going
to work. I think, like intrinsically, people like when they
hear a good song, they hear a good song, and
that's all there is to it, you know. And I
think certain songs want to go certain ways. And I
don't know, I just love this instrument so much that
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like I've been so influenced by so many people who
use this instrument that I think it's always been a
thing that if somebody knows how to do something with
their voice.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
That like I can't.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I'm like I kind of figure out that thing, you know,
it like in the right competitive sense, drives me crazy,
Like I got to figure out how to do that.
I want to do that. I want to sound like that.
I want to I want to learn that technique. I
want to be that, you know. And and I just
love the thing. And I think there's so many ways
to like portray an emotion, and certain emotions are just
like better portrayed.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I think in certain avenues.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
You know, there's sadness is way better, and there's sex
way better in certain genre, you know what I mean,
There's there certain ways to like tell that story better
in certain places, and sometimes writing about home only really
fits right in like country.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Music, you know, or like this or that you know.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
So I wanted to be able to have authentically have
the way to tell that story and whichever way it
feels right, and if we are writing a song, I
just I always hate when people get in the way
of creativity because that happens so much in my life,
Like when I was first starting, or you know, maybe
the label or maybe this writer person with me would
say like, oh, this is too country, let's not do that,
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or this is too rock and roll, let's not go there.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Let's but if it feels that way, just go all
the way there, lean in, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But that's the hard thing. And I'm going to assume
I've never been a global superstar. But when you're in
the early days of success, you have to do as
you advised because you don't really have your platform yet.
But when you get to a point where it's you're
at the level that you're on, you can switch. You
can be like, you know, we actually I don't care
what you think. I'm going to release this song because
I want to. But I feel like in those early
days for so many people.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah, some days you got to you know, you gotta
like at the early days, I had to play the game.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
There's some songs that over the years too that maybe
like if I wanted to, like, you know, they would
say like, well, let's let's do this song, you know,
and I might have to cut.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
A song that I don't like somebody wrote.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
But then also in that same time, I'd be like, well,
if that's the case, I'm putting this song out too,
you know, and they're like, Okay, that's cool, that's like
that's reasonable, you know. And so sometimes you got to
play that game, and you got to like and you
got to trust that your partner also like does want
what's best for you and works, and so hopefully in
that regard, like kids are signed to the right person
that also believes in them instead of just like trying
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to mold them into something they're not. And I don't
think my label or anybody who's ever and more mean anything,
I was, and I think they were trying to develop me.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
And we threw a bunch of stuff at the walls,
all something stuff, and.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Then now I think we like over that year, those
years of us like developing and finding our groove and
our partnership.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
You know, like I can say that.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
My label has been so wonderful to me and we've
really made this happen, and it's great.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
They are in the room with us now, Blink twice
if you need help. They had me wonderful.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Okay, yeah, but I we love your films.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
No, I think a lot of people might be confused
to think that you and I hate the term, but
we're an overnight success. You launched onto the scene, we'd
lose control, and the whole world's fell in love with you.
But I think part of your story that's so incredible
is the fact that you hustled for so long, you
shook hands, you played the venues. Talk to us about
that time of your life, and I guess the lessons
you've learnt from that.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
The beautiful thing is about I would say, even with
the journey of Lose Control, is that there was not
like just a TikTok moment that really happened that blew
that song up. There was not like a trend going
around around that song that that happened. I think it
was truly us going to every city in the world
every place that would let us sing that song, whether
it was on the side of the street, whether it
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was a karaoke.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Bar station, yeah yeah, whatever, wherever it was.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
Man, I wanted like, no matter what, I mean, I
wanted I wanted it to be to the point that
like if if your mom was in the kitchen cooking
and singing that song, I was knocking on the door, like, yo,
could I sing that with you? You know, we were just
pushing that song and shaking every hand and meeting every
person and loving on every person. I feel like the
old way of doing things still works because when you
go out and you like meet the person and love
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on the people, I think people were more inclined and
not the song. I mean, the song is great, but
also they're more inclined to be like, that's my friend,
and I want my friend to win, and they you know,
and that goes a lot further than just like this
this thing that is a flash in the pan. That's
an amazing song that everybody can agree on, and then
it plays for a while and drops off. You know,
when you're making the time and you're making the effort
to love on someone and care about.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Your music and be like you know, you got to
you got to push it.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
You gotta believe in it for everyone else to believe
in it, And you believe in people too, for them
to believe in you. And I think it's like, I
think that journey of creating those relationships has been way
more rewarding. And I mean in my heart as well.
But you know, as for the songs, you know, it's
been way more rewarding because people care about the human
you are, and then they hear the song for the
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human you are.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I those experiences versus just a great song.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So you I've had a lot of artists say that,
you know, sometimes they write their best almost creative art
from the places that are actually quite sad and kind
of hard to be in. Do you feel like that
or do you feel as though you know you're able
to write from I guess any stage of life that
you're at.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, you know, but I do feel that. And in
my life, you know, prior.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
To there Be so you have been to think the
album's called, I tried everything about.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
There but prior to like, you know, a lot of
self love and healing. Jurey, I feel like in my
life I'd kind of put myself in harms way a
lot of time to just like even if it blew
up in my face, there was like some fuel for
the record, you know what I mean, which is like
it's kind of masochistic in.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
A way, and that not okay, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
And now it's a lot easier to be in a
happy place and know that I can access that pain
and write from that place and feel it again, but
like come out of it instead of living in.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
That dark place all the time, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
And I think that's the beauty of like when I'm
able to perform some of those songs, you know, there's
like there's like a three minute period where I can
just dive right back into that heartbreak and fully feel
it again and then be done with a song and
on the other side of it, say like, Wow, it's
good to be on the other side of that, and
it's good to like acknowledge that part of me and
be grateful for that part of me and almost take
that trauma and like take ownership of it and make
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it into a celebratory moment amongst a lot of other
people who have also felt.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
That kind of trauma, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And So to answer the question, I think I'm learning
as I go, like how it's easier to access that
pain in that emotion and write from that place rather
and try to always be in it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
You know, I remember when we started this podcast where
one of us was married, not me, and one of
his single, going on all the horrific dates, and that's
how it started. You know, this is eight hundred episodes
ago and six years ago, and I remember feeling like
every time I'd meet somebody that could be my partner,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Like a relationship.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I canned it because I was like, I need to
keep dating the ship people so I.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Have stories for the podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I was like, what are my contest?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I was like, I need the red flags that work
for me in the face. I was like, what am
I going to do if I'm happy? And I remember
thinking the same thing.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, it's easy to follow in that too. And that's
also just familiar too.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
You know, there's like there's something so scary about things
being good. We're also like us, a slow burning love
is us is such a wonderful thing for it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
To be like not like these high highs and these
low lows.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
It's like that's not that's not the thing that's toxic,
you know, like love can be.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Like you you haven't really been a slow burned lover
from what I hear, have you?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I mean I used to jump straight in you know
what I mean, I definitely But now I'm with raised
who I'm with Now we're like or for adult relationship,
you know what I mean, which is great. It's like
it's not this like codependent thing that was like I've
always thrown myself right into this thing, you know, like
like this head first love bombing thing.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
We took time to be together and I mean, of
course we had a baby, so we had to get
to know each other pretty quickly. But yeah, and we
still are, you know, but almost a couple of years.
But like we're doing great and he's great.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Can I ask you and I might be projecting a
little bit of myself into beers, going from being the
type of person who was just so intense in relationships
and like almost monkey branching from one to the next. Yeah,
totally having those high highs and with it come to
the lo lows. Did it take a little bit of
you actually having to coach yourself into what a healthy
relationship is going to feel like? And what it's, you know,
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what it's meant to.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Feel like I think to me it was it wasn't
coaching for relationship as much. It was like learning that
I was running from certain things within myself, you know,
and like learning to like love myself genuinely and like
taking small efforts to like even look at myself and
the eyes in the mirror and to say like I
love you, like you're like you're you're pretty man, you know,
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stuff like that, like thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Right, But was it like that, you know, that kind
of that validation. I guess, like I know that because
I am someone who is like that, and I would
really chase those high highs in a in a relationship,
and I think that when I got into one that
was actually healthy, I really had to kind of had
to soften the edges at times because I was like, oh,
I'm not feeling the things that I used to feel,
you know. And I can only imagine that would be
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exaccerbated if you were an artist.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Yeah, well yeah, you know, and as someone who gets
paid to be validated by other people, you know, and
and like songs only work for people validate my pain
or happiness or whatever have you. That I'm writing, it's like, yeah,
it definitely gets to a point where I felt like
when I was first, like I always told myself like
these problems would go away if I was able to
do music for a living, right, you know, like all
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these things, like not just financial problems, but all these things.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
If I just felt like I was okay.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
And as soon as I got this feeling like that,
I got this this ability to just perform music live
of my best friends all the time, I was like
in the lowest place I ever been, where I just
felt like I.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Was either lying to everyone or everyone was lying to me,
you know, and I.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Just felt like I was like I don't feel validated still,
I feel like empty, And I was more nervous about
doing anything when I was so delusional before before anybody cared,
I was like, this is me.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I'm going to be the biggest of all time.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
And now all of a sudden people started caring, and
I was like, oh shit, I'm terrified, you know. So,
I mean, you know, again, I am grateful for that
time during COVID and like my second dad DP for
really like you know, doing helping me with that self
work and like you know, learning to love myself and
learning to take care of what I felt about myself
and because I hated me, I guess, you know, and
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that was tough.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I heard you say that you have more anxiety and
more insecurities now with all your success than before.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, in security has changed. And why do you think
that is?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think a lot of people from the outset might think, oh,
you know what you've You've got the fame now, the validation,
the money.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You think that it would dissipate, but you will.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Actually that's what That's what you would think.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
But I think I think there's just so much, you know,
especially with now having a kid, there's so much of
like I want to do the right thing and say
the right thing, and I think sometimes there's a lot
of overthinking that goes into it. When if I just
like just followed my gut, you know, like I I
think the overthinking just started getting into it. And if
I you know, I always ask myself like if I
could ever ask my buddy Jamil asked me this one time,
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and it's like, dude, if you can ever tell me
one time that your gut told you something and you
just like gave somebody the benefit of that or you
just kept like, you just kept telling that no, and
then by the end of it it blew up in
your face.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Was your gut right? As your gut always been right?
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's always asked it.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
It's like, so follow that and don't listen to like
any of the other things that are And I feel
like I just sometimes get to that insecure or overthinking
am I doing the right thing?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Am I doing?
Speaker 5 (23:56):
And now sometimes taking that long to make any decision
is like a decision in itself, and then you've missed
the window and now you're just blown up and you're
overthinking everything. And so I I tried my best now
to just go for it.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Cut out noise.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, I just go for.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
It, you know, say, I'm just reassuring myself that I
have good intentions, I have a good heart, I'm a
good person. You're not going to hurt anybody. Man, Just
you got this. People trust you. You got to trust yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
You know, how did that.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Level of I guess I think what you're referring to
can be like kind of intrusive thoughts or that anxiety. Yeah,
how did that change? When you became a dad?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
It was such a.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
It's such a weird thing because the first time I
remember holding them, and by the way, Rachel did this
at our house, you know, like we bought this house
in Nashville and right in our bed like a damn
superhero man.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Absolutely accidentally, Like no, no, that was a plan.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I a video that she posted about like women, and
it used to be like such an experience that we
shared stories about.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
It was, yeah, it was incredible, and but I remember
holding him for the first time and be like, you know,
like I've always been his dad, you know, like nothing changed,
right really, you know, it.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Was just like I've always been this. I've always been
his dad my whole life.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I've been everything's led up to that, you know, And
and I think there's so much more, I guess, like
surety of my steps, you know, clarity in my steps,
the things I'm doing, because there's there's like nothing else
can Everything I do affects him and his life. And
so now, like so many people with their opinions and
their ideas, I immediately like, no, I think I know
(25:31):
what's best for my life through my son. Now, you know,
I know it's best for my son, So don't tell
me shit. I got this, you know, and I take
a lot less like I take a lot more risk
and a lot less help, you know, which is like
in the right way, though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
In the right way.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
What's a big lesson that being in your dad has
toy you?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Man? I think being more present, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I feel like and in so much time in my
life I spent just like on go go, go go,
and wanting to like I got to do this.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
I got to like I've fallen behind.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
I got to go go go, And and now there's
so many times when I'm with him that like I know,
even if I'm just sitting watching TV and he's on
my lap, like.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
That is the most productive thing I could be doing,
you know.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
And that's like the most thing I can do is
just give him my presence and be there, and that
is the most productive thing I could possibly do. And
so now it's like again like I made my steps
a little bit more clear that like I'm there's not
this like feeling of like falling behind or I'm not
doing enough or this like you.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Know, everybody can do what they're doing.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
And I got like there's plenty of time, I guess now,
you know, which is.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Like there wasn't before.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I felt like I was always running out of time,
and now there's like downtime.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Just feels like I need more of that, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, like you're being more intentional with it. Yeah, how
is it going having? Like is he about three months
old now?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Three month old baby touring around?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
It's cool, man, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
He's what a cool experience.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
He's got a little pass forward just sleepingggling.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, it's so sweet though, I mean, I love it.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
He he got his stamp in Auckland and came here,
so it's like, you know, traveling the world at three months.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
It's so lucky. Nothing cool in my life happened till
I was like twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I imagine telling younger Teddy, hey, in the future, you're
going to be taking us through your baby traveling the world.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
He was like Gandhi in a fast life or something.
He's got it fucking me, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Hey, something I find really interesting. I am a huge
universe manifestation kind of person. We have this debate on
the podcast all the time because not everyone agrees with
me and things like it's a bit wooy, but I'm
about it. I believe I've manifested so many things in life.
I believe I manifested this chat with you. You know when
I when I think yeah, thank.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
You, yeah, thank you appreciation, I'm like I have to
bow down.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
You are right, bro?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
How do you feel about it?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
I mean, you know, you claim what you want out
of life, and I think everything. You know, there's there's
so many moments in my life that like when these
things happen that are like am right about time?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
You know, like.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Versus like the nerves of anything or everything. Like people,
I was like, did you ever imagine life? Like yeah,
fuck yeah I did. Man, this is all I ever
saw for my life, you know, and everything if everything
is like so to detail, you know, like this is
what's gonna happen. This is gonna be like you know,
like I like what we just played at the NRL.
When we get back here, that place will be sold
(28:15):
out where Teddy Swims Like we were playing at the
NRL and they were like, you got to sign the
board while you're here, and I said, I'm not going
to sign that board. I'm gonna wait till I sell
this place out for Teddy Swims. That's when I'm gonna
sign that board and that's the next time I come
back to Sydney, and I guarantee you this place will
be that stadium will be sold out when Teddy Swims
comes back.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
That's that's the plan.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Well, when would you say you made it? I guess,
And because I know that it was a bit later
in life for you. You hustled for a long time, and
I guess off the back of that, was there ever
a time in that period where you were hustling where
you thought, maybe it's not for me.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
No, never, It's always for me. Every time. It's always
been for me. That's the only thing I ever had
in my mind. And I was like, I so delusionally,
just like this is I am going to be this.
There's no other way, There's nothing else I could be doing.
So but I think my made it moment I always
attribute to my dear friend Megan Trainer and Daryl Sabbar there.
(29:06):
He just turned thirty and it was right after I
did the song with Megan and we went to his
birthday party and he like rented out the Solo House
in La in the theater and I got to spend
his thirtieth birthday with him and a bunch of their
friends and watching Spy Kids too with him and you know,
Lexe Vega and I was like, I remember calling my
mom and being like, Mom, I'm watching Spy Kids with
(29:27):
the Spy Kids right now, and this is the coolest
moment of my life, like because I made her take
me to the see all of them in theas, you know,
so like so I was like, I'm like, I get
to call that dude my brother, Like that's that's one
of my dear friends right there. And I get to
sit next to him and watch Spi Kids on his
thirtieth birthday with him, and I was like, this is
the most amazing moment that I And he's like sitting
there just spitting all the words and still loves it,
(29:49):
you know. And I'm like, dude, I just I want
that so bad, you know, and I can't wait for
That's such a cool thing to be able to do.
And that was my mate up moment I think for
me is sitting with Darryl and like out about Spy
Kids and he was on the screen, the little kid
you know I met.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You know, one thinks that would have been your main
up moment.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I was thinking, like it wasn't when you were in
that toilet listening to yourself on.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
The radio, for I wasn't happy I made it to
the toilet, made it out.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
That's true. How I wasn't performing at the NL Grandson
so cool man.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
It was very nerve wracking and the I think I
had it all together until like T and T came
on and that's when I was like, all right, this
is the part that you don't blow in front of
two Australians.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, but it went well.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
That was a fantastic You absolutely killed it. I'm a
massive rugby league fan and I think you are by
far the best entertainment we've ever been able to get
to the game. I just I love having these amazing
international acts, you know when I'm all about We spoke
about last week on the podcast about getting people like
you over just elevates, you know, the whole sporting culture
(30:52):
of Australia. I was so excited and actually got leaked
on this podcast by two guys who were like in
the sixties that you were going to be coming over.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
And doing it.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I don't know how they got the word, but it
got out to the NROL community so quickly, and I
was very very thrilled.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I mean I only got sucked into it. And this
is what I think happened with a lot of Aussies.
I hate football, hate rugby. I'm happy to say it
don't come for me because you were playing and I
think there will be a lot of Australians that you
were the drawer card.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Well, but it apparently was the biggest one yet, so like.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Hopefully yeah that Australian TV.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
That's it was such a cool environment to be in.
I don't really quite know what's going on in rugby.
I could kind of fall a little bit, but I
mean it's also it's a huge time to be Brisbane
right now though you know they're like the men's and
the women's and they won the AFL. Like that town's
probably still doing backflips over there, so I can't wait
to get over there where my little Broncos hat.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well you've got your brocot to a jersey from where
I'm from, but we got the wooden spoon this year,
so I was like you probably maybe it's a green
flag to still support a team when it is it
is that's who I am and I know that's who
you are.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I'm still a Falcons fan.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
It says where it comes from, like love me at
my worse, You've got to be around at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
But if anyone wants.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
To go see Teddy, you're on your Australian tour right now.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Please go and get amongst it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Gone Gone Gone the new single with David Ghettotones and
I absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So make sure you go and listen to that. Teddy.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I cannot thank you enough for coming in today. I
know you're on a time crunch, but before you go,
I have to ask you, what would you rate my
wedding dance out of ten to your song?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
It's amazing. I saw Thomas showed me earlier too. I
think it was amazing. I will say that I was
expecting like Pyro you know that.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Did come later at the very end, but they only
let me play ninety seconds off your reel. We had,
oh my god, we had fireworks like Bali so like
they were far too close.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Cause I was expecting I was expecting to hear the
like the the kind of acousticker version of it, you know,
but it was like the whole drop and everything was
like like I was expecting the like dirty dancing, like
hold up, you know the big.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Thing, you know, my husband listening literally we learned that
long distance.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Is that more impressive? That's an eleven right out of ten.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Absolutely you. Yeah, I was very honored to be a
part of that. I mean, that's really sick being to
watch on over here. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Thank you so much, Thank you. We have loved having you.
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