He's Back! Reunion With Our Cohost and BTS Of The Entertainment Industry. Uncut with Mitch Churi

Today’s guest will probably not need much of an introduction unless you are quite new here. Mitch Churi is one of our closest friends, he is our former radio cohost and he’s one of the most entertaining people in Australian media.

We said in our last podcast episode with Mitch last year that he would be coming back to life uncut and we’re really stoked to have him back now when he has such an exciting new chapter to tell us about.

For anyone who doesn’t know Mitch’s origin story, we recorded a full episode back in March of 2022 

In today’s episode we chat:

• Two of the most rogue accidentally unfiltereds we’ve ever had on the show
• The first time we’re all back together on mic
• Recovering from the betrayal of being cheated on
• The components of a ‘glow up’
• Mitch “f*cking up Britt’s wedding”
• The awkward connection we all have with Britt’s bedroom
• Being made redundant when your job is a big part of your identity
• Mitch’s brand new chat show
• A BTS of how podcasting/radio/entertainment in Aus works

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life
on Card. I'm Brittany and I'm Laura.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Couldn't be more excited about today's guest.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I don't even need Usually we do a big introduction
and we put some gas up their butt and we
prop them up.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
But Mitch has got enough gas up his butt.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
We still gas up.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Come on after this, this break our reunion, and I
get gas up the butt to start.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
A little bit of helium.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
There you are floating off in the sky. Oh, welcome,
We're back up. Mitch.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
We did have like a full intro for you. But
in case you don't know.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Who Mitch is, Mitch Cheery on the podcast today was
he's one of our closest friends.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
He was, he was.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
No what happened.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I was going to start with him that I was
going to stat with he was our radio co host.
But I thought, let's start with the friendship. He is
one of our closest friends, and he was for many
many years.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Up until last year or this year, our coo on
the pickup.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
So we go a long way back as friends and colleagues,
the three of us, we interviewed you on the podcast
back in twenty twenty two, So we're gonna link that
in the bike if anyone that wants to go and
do a bit of a rehash and a refresh.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
But Mitch, welcome back to life.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Fun card.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Oh it's secod to be here. Girls.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Does it give you some trauma sitting in this room
again with us?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
No? No, not trauma with you guys. Being back in
this building is a little weird. But I text brit
said I'm here and then she's like, oh, come find you,
and then she's like, where the hell are you?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
But you're carrying the corner somewhere fetal position.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I walked down into the reception and to the reception guy,
I was like, lad, have you seen Mitch Tree. He's like,
I did see him, but he ran away.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
And he's like, oh no, it's like I called the police.
He's not allowed in this building.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Oh yeah, lad, it's been given a sign of me
and he's got it posted under his desk. He's like
at the White House with a red button, like if
this chubby but lesbian appears in the building, kick him
out now. I was doing a pool much. I was
doing a pool because I know this building so well.
I'm like, I've got ten minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
You must have been in there so long because I
saw you walk in and I was about to stop you,
and I was like, oh, it's weird to stop someone
as they're entering the men's toilets.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I went to the toilet.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Oh, and then I came out and it was so
long in between when I came out and you didn't.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
I have my morning coffee and my kafa, so my guts.
I'm on the health and wellness journey after everything that happened.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
What's kafaa?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm like, kafa.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
No, It's like it's like a yogurt milk. It gets you.
You love it. Law was with the baby. Oh, it's
really good. You know what's funny, we haven't ever been
on the microphone since everything went out.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
We had it. We had to sign something so you no.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
We didn't have to sign anything.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
That is a joke.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
But to give you guys, we're obviously going to get
into it.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
There's many things we're going to cover in this conversation,
but there was a lot of stuff that went down
last year in terms of Mitch was made redundant from
the pick up radio show. We're making lots of jokes
about it, but just to set context for anyone who
wasn't aware, it was a horrible moment and for all
of us, more so for you, obviously, Mitch, like it
was a.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
How was it for you? Laura? I didn't say that
it was wanted a double garage.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
I went for our friendship and also because it was
something we didn't have any control over.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
If you guys are across.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
It, we will make jokes because we deal with trauma
by piercing on each other pretty much.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Ope, we do.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
We laugh, we laugh, We laughed, but we also cried
before we laughed, which I think is important.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, and Chantamana does have a double garage, so thank
you for that.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Oh so you wanted a charging spot for the electric
car that you couldn't afford, because.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Mitch, you know, can I just I'm gonna be honest
with you.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
What, well, thank you? What have you been lying for
the last fie? No?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
No, no, no no, but like you're one of my best friends.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I gave it a week before I did it, but
after you got the sack, I waited a week and
then I message and asked for I could have your castpace.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
This building, you had a castpe. They said no, we didn't.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Okay, let me see something, let me set the scene, lifers.
I had been at the radio station for ten years,
so you earn you know, spot, you earn your spot.
And I also did the I did two shows, so
I did the night show. And the rules are if
you work at a company until seven pm, you have
to have an underground cart spot for safety. And of
course you know there's hits.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Out on me.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
I'm very you know. So I had a parking spot.
So did you request it when I left?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Why?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I just imagined it was going to be up for grabs.
So I was like, hey, Laura, and I have never
had a passpot.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I'm not across this. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
No, I do it for you. I always going to
bat for you.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
I did not partake. Well, I don't need anyone to
take in that type of batting.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
You wanted a car.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Par, I can't share a caspot. You're not riding vespers?
What part ding yellow vespers? My life?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
You know what the parking costs here a year? Twelve
grand How does.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
It cost twelve grande?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Because we have to pay for parking every day.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
There everyone does.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
No one cares about that.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
You didn't have to anyway.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
We also lost my job.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
We also could get trains, Like, let's all just you're
being serious.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I would love to see you on the trains.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
On the train, Laura, we have blue ticks.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Shut up, hey, look get into it. We start with
an accidently unfiltered. Your whole life is an accidently m filtered.
What is your most embarrassing story.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
I've got two, so I'll just throw them out there.
This one's fresh. This one I don't have a resolution to.
So I, as you know, live at home. That was
meant to be like a twelve month thing and then everything.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
No, it was six months and it was like four years.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
No, it was not. It was two years ago. Laura's like,
just associated, he still lives at home. We're having him on.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I'm just letting you speak for a second.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
I'm just stopping interrupting because this entire episode is going
to just be us interrupting.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
You come on, and all of us cheasing each other.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
It's kind of cute, though, I love it, just like
old times. I know it really is. I'm really enjoying this.
So anyway, I live at home and what we're trying
to do is like streamline the whole light living at
home process. So I had a Disney plast, I had
a stand account, I had all this, so I might
mum and dad. We're all going to be living together.
Let's just share accounts. So I consolidated our Amazon account.
Because if you get Amazon Prime, the streaming service, you
also get included now Amazon Prime the free next day

(05:32):
delivery on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Right, which streaming service are you being paid for?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Stand like that.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
You're promoting the compared I'm not promoting.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
No, No, this is just a small little pin in the story.
So Amazon Prime we all share, and I might mum
and dad. No point you having an account and me
having an account, So we consolidate them. So that means
that we now share an Amazon account. So we stream
we both have little heads that pop up like mum
and Dad Mitch, and there's no issue there. But on Amazon,
the storefront where you buy things, we share an account.

(06:01):
I'm tech savvy because I'm still in my twenties. When
you open the app, you can select Mitch or you
can select Mum and dad. Right, And I know how
to do that because it's straightforward. But mum and dad struggle.
So Mom's now grandma. As you know, Becky, my sister's
got two kids and I'm an uncle.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Becoming a grandma doesn't just instantly make someone technology illiterate.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
No, that No, that's not why she's illiterate. She's just
buying heaps of baby toys. And I get deliveries to
the house that says Mitch Jury, and I'm like, what
do I buy? Rip it open and it's like, you know,
bulk buy Rusks or baby mum mums, you know which
you'll be doing very soon. And I'm like, Mum, you've
got to use your Amazon account. Fast forward to last week.
I'm with Steve and my boyfriend. We're still together. Everyone listening, well,

(06:39):
we'll get to that together. And we're driving and I
get a notification and it's like half past twelve at night.
The Amazon your order is being packed for delivery, and
I'm like, that's so weird. I've been in an event.
I don't order anything, check it. Can I show you
what it was? Yeah, I'm gonna do a review meeting.
Why don't Okay, sorry, you're right.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's a nice push YouTube. Go and watch you the YouTube.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Hey, good YouTube is the future.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Otherwise you'll never know what Mitch is about to show.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
I want you to read it out. You to read
it out loud? Is that okay? So this is the notification?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Okay? So this has come through at midnight?

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Four seasons assorted pleasure Bolt condom's bucket, one hundred and
forty four count pack what no?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
For who?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Your dad Michelle should?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yes, your dad would?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
How many hundred condoms?

Speaker 4 (07:25):
That's one hundred, one hundred and forty four?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Is Grandma Michelle thinking she's going to get pregnant?

Speaker 4 (07:30):
You keep I know, but I haven't brought it up
with him. It's not me. It's mum or Dad buying
a bulk bag of content.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I think it's for you.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I'm having I'm having gay sex. I don't need condoms.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Who's having sex in your house that needs condoms?

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Is it for Becky?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Becky's pregnant. No, she wants to have kids and they
live in a separate house.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
So you haven't spoken to your parents about this. This
is not your embarrassing story, then this is their This
is coldplay all over.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
What's going on? And that's what I thought? What if
Dad's on the dirty dad still works.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
No, he's not delivering condoms to your house.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
If he's on the dirty, I know, I don't know
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
We need a resolution to this.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
You need to just when they arrive, you need to
go a head out, your condoms are here and walk
with your parents.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Now do you want me to This feels very radio.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah. Get Mark on the line.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Can we get Mark on the core?

Speaker 4 (08:19):
You know what, We've done this before. I remember when
we called him because when I was first with Stephen,
we were having lots of sex and I came home
one day and my bed had been moved six inches
from the wall and I'm like, Stephen, did you move
the bed? He's like no, and it was my dad.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
But the reason why is because you thought your dad
had moved the bed because all the love making was
acoustically affecting them. But actually your mama just moved the
bed because she made your bed for you.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
She does, so that was Can you call him and asking, let's.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Call Mark, let's call him speaker. If he's actually caught out,
we have to cut this. Hey, Mitch, Hello, how are
you good?

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Mate?

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Good? I'm good, I'm good. I have a question I
don't know if this was you or not, but I
do you know how we have the shared Amazon account? Yeah? Yeah,
I got it, like a shipping notification for something that
I didn't order, And I just don't know if it's
you or if it's Marmore who did it? M tell
me more? Do you use do you use my Amazon?
Or is it just mum who's got the app? No? Mom,

(09:18):
Mum uses it more than me.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Six months ago, so Mum's probably the person to talk to.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Okay, what was it that was shipped?

Speaker 4 (09:28):
I got it's a one hundred and forty four bulk
pack of ribbed condoms? Mitchell, Dad, I'm not joking. I've
got the screen shot. Why would you want ribbed? And
we've Brittain Laura. This is this is not a prank?

(09:50):
Are you and Mom? Still? Like? Surely you don't. It's
just just at this point, more much, Mitch. Of course,
I'm not too old. No, you're not all right, I'll
text Mum then it wasn't you. I loved it. I
don't want to cancel that. Change it? Okay, all right,
I will do. We'll get the flavored once the girls

(10:12):
say hi.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Hi much?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Oh you have a lovely night.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Do you know what it's for? Dad? Or no? Like? Seriously, nod,
I've got no idea what I should order.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Okay, someone else.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
That's what we thought about you one hundred and forty four.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
No one's got that much energy.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
No, all right, love you dad, thank you, Love you
by Yeah, well he's not concerned either way.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I love that his standout was like, why would you
do that? I wouldn't get ripped.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
You need to call your mum. But also I think
that might be a conversation for office.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
I agree. I'll give you an update. I'll post on
my life on cut Discovers.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Okay, so Mitch doesn't understand accidentally unfiltered, because that was
not Mitch's embarrassing story.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
You just outed your dad.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
I've got another one. I've come prepared.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
You hit me.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
How long did these go for?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Guy?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
This is the entire episode. Thanks for listening.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
This is a story that I've never told. I think
you know it, but I've only told it off air.
I've never told it on the air, but I'm ready.
I'm ready to. I'll give it to you because I
love it.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Exclusive.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
So back when I was on radio, I remember that
I must be nice. I would feel it. I don't.
It feels so long ago. I used to feel in
for Kyle and Jackie O and I would do a
breakfast show. It was like Mitch Jury Easter Breakfast or
Winter Breakfast whatever and whatever, Winter, no whatever. See, they
put me on for all these seasons and.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah, you're feeling over Christmas, You're feeling over Easter. You
did the holiday feelings correct?

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah about their show, Yeah, about two or four weeks
and it was breakfast, which means you got the whole
producing power of the Kyle and Jackie O show, which
is huge for someone like me. It was like our
team of fifteen, so they'd get one hundred and one
different guests. We had a guest booked in and this
is an Australian icon, one of the most famous Australian
musical Broadway stars, Hugh Jackman.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I'm guessing female, female and Broadway Broadway star.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
You're not going to tell it.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
I can't, I honestly can't. I think there'd be seasoned
because I've signed things and I've had to apologize profusely.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I do know this story.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
I think I know it's straight.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
So because there's such a team, I was phoning it
in a little and I've been doing it for so long, right,
maybe that's why they got me in the end. And
I had a prepsheet given to me by a producer
which was the name of the star the show there in,
and a bit of background, a bit of history.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Which the backstory to this is Mitch did not read
any of it. Because you're very good off the cuff,
like you can. You can put yourself in a situation
and you're very good on the fly without doing any
prep which is a huge benefit. Ninety nine point nine
percent of the time. Yeah, but every so often when
it's like, well, should have read the fine print. This
was one of those occasions.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, that's like when on the pickup we interviewed Captain
Sandy Yawn from a below deck and I called her
doctor Sandy Hook.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Anyway, what happened on this.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
You've got the prep sheet, three key points, that's all
you need correct.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Live to air, breakfast radio didn't prep. Hello, Goodbodding, Welcome
to the show. So great to have you here. Hi,
going good, so far, going good, so far. I try
to connect because she's a big famous actress, so I say,
listen here. I studied theater back in my my old days,
Like I was a theater kid from way back, and
it says, here, you've just wrapped a production, which is
so exciting. Talk to me about the process because when

(13:05):
I was in theater school, we were all root. We
were going at it, We we eat rabbits like we
were kids. Everyone was sleeping together, because that's the vibe
of a production, which it is if you've ever.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Done like all drama kids just bang on set.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Oh yeah, and then the boys realized they're gay and
it's the whole coming of age.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
But you were like everyone just kind of you know,
there's relationships that happen on set.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, it's like showmansas, you'd know, dancing with the stars.
That's kind of a thing.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
When I didn't have a showmance, but.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
No, historically, famously, a lot of people do.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
And it's a lot of them like those what are
you know, the Disney kids. All the Disney kids end
up getting together.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah all that.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
So I said, did any of you, I said Routin.
I was like, were you guys rooting backstage at this production?
You've just wrapped up radio silence And I'm like, be there,
And she says, I actually think we should move on.
I'm greatly offended by that question, and I thought, oh shit,
I've asked her a sexy question, like some people don't
like that, and it's a bit edgy. And maybe I
was trying to be the Kyle because I was on

(13:55):
this show. I don't know what I was trying to do. Yeah,
so it doesn't sound like you. No, I was just
trying to be funny. So I moved on. I'm like, okay,
all good. Finished the interview. She was cold as I
we wrapped it. She gave me nothing for the rest
of the show, and then the producing team came in
and I was like, oh, that was weird. I really
I think I offended it. I don't know what went wrong,
and they went, don't worry, forget about it. Two seconds later,
the producer gets a call from the manager and they

(14:17):
say X y Z would like a personal apology from Mitch.
They're expecting a call. They're disgusted, and they're not doing
any press for the rest of the day. They have
canceled the day. And I said, that's so wild, Like
I just asked one question about like rooting, Like it's
not that bad.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Who are you rooting?

Speaker 4 (14:31):
That's right, said set. I said, ask them why they're
so upset, like Mitch is the trigger for them, And
they said, x y Z is gutted and disgusted that
Mitch would insinuate that they're a pedophile.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Because it was a kid's show.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
She was performing in a pantomime production with kids.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Mitch laugh, I'm not even laughing at that.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
I didn't read it.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
It's only funny because it's so uncomfortable for yous and like.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
The odds of that, the odds.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah, it was so bad. But you know what.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Also the other side of this is there's adults that
work on kids TV shows. It could have been backstage production,
like yeah, but it's it's real.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I mean, it's a stretch, the stretch.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
The only out of this is you call in and
admitting that you did no prep on her and you
didn't know the show.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
So it's like, that's bad. You are there.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I think that's better. I think admitting that you sorry.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I don't know I think about you anything.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
I think what they're saying that I was genuinely intrigued
the options.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't know. Have you learned anything from that?

Speaker 4 (15:30):
I have met her since, and I have apologized, and
I think things are okay, but I had to call
and speak to her on the phone.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
And yeah, was she okay on phone?

Speaker 4 (15:39):
No, she didn't answer. She blocked me. On social media.
She still blocked me. So if you want to work
out who it is, go to my Yeah, you'll be
able to work it out. She's blocked me.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Have you ever seen her again?

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
I have, And how's it good out?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
I was actually in one of her and we had
to meet face.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Let's stop trying to give away more clues so that
people can figure it out.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
She said, you should see your backstage back speaking of
and we go to ads and traffic.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Speaking of rooting, I will ask you a question about it.
So a big part of your life over the past
year has been your relationship.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
And I know, like when we were talking on radio at.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
The start, Stephen was just like this guy that I'm
seeing and it wasn't official, and then one day you
called him your boyfriend on air, and then that's how
we all found out that you're in a serious relationship.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
How are things now? Where are you guys at? Where
is the relationship? Hall? Long have you been together?

Speaker 6 (16:28):
At?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Two years? Almost two years?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Wow? It's so grown up now.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, he has grown up. Yeah, yeah, that's how people age.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
It's so two years ago Mitch came to Scotland with
me to spend Christmas, and that was when Stephen was
wanting to be serious, like they were early days, and
Mitch was like, no way, I'm going to be a
player all through Europe. He's like, I'm going to fucking Paris,
I'm going to fucking Amsdam. I'm going to hit people
up in Scotland. And it's funny because as a friend
the whole time, you just were texting him all day

(16:56):
every day, and I was like, I know, you want
to tick a bucket list and like hook up with
some randoms.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I was like, but you're already signed, sealed and delivered.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
I know, I really like I do. I love him,
but at that point I really liked him, but I
was torn because you know that that period of the
breakup that I had and then the cheating of it
all and then losing like fifty five kilos and then
working out who I was, and I looked different and
I felt different, and it was a really wild time
in my life.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
And also you kind of got into a relationship quite quickly,
Like I think in terms of moving on from what
was your past and previous relationship which you'd been in
for a really long time that ended terribly and then
getting into a new relationship which feels kind of quick.
It's like you have those moments where you're like, oh am,
I just jumping into the next thing too quickly? Have

(17:39):
I spent more time? Should I be dating? Should I
be seeing what's out there? All those feelings?

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Well, that's why I was wanting that little Scottish escape,
and I did. I went to a little Scottish gay
bar and I was messaging and people and it just
it just didn't feel right. I didn't want to.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
There's also this like, and I think a lot of
people know it. I remember feeling it.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
There's a feeling of when you think you might have
met somebody that could be serious, there's a feeling of
like what if it is serious and this is the
last time I'm single?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Like what if I get into that and then that's
it and I don't get to like dabble in meeting
anyone else.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
What was that? We've never really spoken to you on
here about it, but like, what was that period? Like
for you when you know you did find out you
were cheated on many many times in your.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
First relationship, your first gay relationship, Like since coming out,
you were together.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
For so many years.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
How did you feel after that and adapt to like
this new era?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Were you nervous to go on date again?

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah? So, I don't think I've ever said this, but
I had never slept with another man other than that
partner that I was with. You guys knew we went
to balley together, you went to my wedding.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
It came to your wedding in my wedding photo.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
It sucks every photo of us together is Also that's
the thing that's so hard about weddings is because so
many people break up.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
They just do.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
It's part of relationships in life.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
And then you look back on your wedding photos and
you're like, fuck, I've seen that person two years.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, I mean, don't break up with Stephen because now
he's in my wedding, got a boyfriend in.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, but he's nice to look out the other way.
I mean, he's everywhere in those videos.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
He's not unattractive. No, you're like, I'm still dirty.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
It was no, I'm actually not. We were texting the
other day, like it's all good. You have to know,
but it's just I at this point, so much growth
has occurred. But the long and the short of it is,
I had never been with any other guy and I
was twenty seven when we broke up, and especially in
the gay world and the gay scene, I mean that
is unheard of to have one sexual partner or romantic partner.
When I left him at twenty seven, I'd been with

(19:25):
more women than I had men. And I'm not even bisexual,
Like it wasn't even something that I wanted to go
back to. I'm gay, but I had never I had
no experiences. Plus I was one hundred and sixty five
kilos at the end. Wow, Yeah, I was really big.
I was really big, which is fine. I was happy,
you know, up until the end. But so much changed.
I'm so grateful for it. But it was the sexuality.

(19:49):
I felt like I was coming out again at twenty seven.
It was the immense physical change and then looking at
myself and going, oh my god, I look better. But
why am I still so afraid to take my top
off and go and have a hook up or get
on grinder. It took me so long to be able
to get on an app. Even when I hooked up
with Stephen for the first time, He's like, why you
take your shirt off? And I'm like, it will not

(20:09):
come off and the lights were off. It wasn't your house, Britt,
Sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
You fucked for the first time on my lounge. I
did because I have a doggy cam.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
No, I never have it. You do have a doggy cam.
But it was off, thank god, because you've got off.
It was off. It was off, and I was so
afraid and my shirt, my single was on. And I
still to this day I have issues with like being
fully naked. It's just it's body.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, I mean I understand that though.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
But in terms of going through this breakup, I think
a lot of people go through a breakup then they
had these like external transformations. Usually like you know, the
fitness goals thing is a big one that plays a
part for a lot of people because it's like the
one thing you can control and something that feels uncontrollable
and you're going on the hot girl walks. I think
like hot girl walks became your like part of your
identity at the time.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
That's like a new personality.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
How do you feel now, Like in comparison, when you
look back on that person of where you were three
years ago, verse, now, how do you see yourself.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
I'm one of those people that I don't know. I
can never like, No, I don't notice the growth, and
I'll notice it in like five years time. I don't know.
I still feel exactly the same as that guy, I think,
but then I look back at old photos and it
just is a completely different person. But where I'm at
mentally now it feels the same. But that journey was amazing.
It taught me so much about myself. It taught me,
like I had to relearn what I like in a

(21:23):
romantic partner, what I like sexually. I realized that the
partner that I was with was really not a match
for me, but I was stuck with it. And why
was I so content with being stuck in that relationship?

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Because also it's the only thing you knew, and you
knew it for a really long time. So there is
always an aspect of I don't want to say, you
don't know what you're missing out on until you've tried it,
because like you were happy in a sense, but now
that you've got something to compare it to you can
see how much more of a healthy love you have now,
and how much you like certain things that you didn't
think you liked, and how much you want to close
relationship and not an open relationship. But if you've only

(21:55):
ever had one experience, it's really hard to have only
had this one experience up until twenty seven and then
be thrown into the world that you haven't dabbled in
before and just really finding your feet again. Like you said,
that's a really big statement of like I felt like
I was coming out all over again.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, also at twenty seven. These moments and these formative
experiences happen for some people, especially now, like Jen alphagen
Z at sixteen seventeen eighteen.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, But I also.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Feel like when you go through a really big heartbreak,
like when you've been with someone for five years, you
think you're going to marry them, you think you're going
to spend your life with them, and then you find
out that they've been cheating on you or whatever has happened.
You don't just instantly fall out of love with them.
You don't just instantly see them for the person that
they've been at the end of the relationship. You're so
invested in all the promises that you've made, all of
the memories that you've made. It's really hard to mentally

(22:45):
click that switch over. And for some people they never do,
and some people work through that. And there's so many
versions of how that affects people when a relationship ends
in cheating and infidelity.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Oh yeah, and you know me too, Like I'm all
in like with everything in your life, Like I so
involved with family. My family embraced everyone that I've ever
been with, but embraced that particular X and I think
there was a betrayal on many levels, like the romantic
they're sexual, the it being my first partner, my family,
the family of it all, like it all fell to pieces.

(23:17):
It was like that when that episode of Modern Family
when they all went to Hawaii and there was all
the drama in Hawaii, Hawaii where we're mentioning Cam the
gay couple, and it all fell to pieces in Hawaii.
That's when breadcrumbs were dropped and I realized things and
it was like, oh, I'm all playing home from Hawaii.
I'm like, oh no, this is it's happening. It's happening. Yeah,
this is not going to end well. And it did
not end well at all, and it was like all

(23:38):
the little things, like we had a full lease together
and I'm like, you pay the end of lease, and
like it was just it was such a messy end.
It gets messy, It does get it does get messy.
But like at this point I'm at now, I genuinely
feel like we were texting the other day, I kind
of want to be okay with everything, Like I don't
want to have because it niggles in the back of
my brain, it really does, and.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
You want to put put like a table on it
and put it away.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Years later, then out of curiosity, what is the why
do you feel like you need to keep that tie
with an X? I know you were together for a
long time, but why do you feel like you need
to It wasn't an amicable breakup. There are a lot
of things that went down. Why do you feel like,
years later you need to continue that connection.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Oh, there's no friendship, there's no connection. It's for me
so I could have full closure because I never got
closure about what went down and why. So for me,
I want to be able to see someone on the
street and it not be weird or not be awkward.
And also I don't. I don't have a room in
my life or time for animosity or hatred. It ate
me up for so long, and then I realized part

(24:37):
of the reason why I was losing all this weight
and doing these hot girl walks is because it was
a distraction, because I was really hurt and really confused
and didn't know where to go or what to do.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yeah, well that's the thing, right, Like comes down to
that idea of having control over the one thing you
can control. And so you're like, well, i'm feeling these feelings,
I'm going to go on a five kilometer run, you know.
And it does work, it does make you feel better,
but it doesn't always deal with the problem.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Sometimes it just prolongs it.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah. You know what's funny though, that happened, and you
know me and I kind of got through that, and
I lost this weight and I felt incredible and there
was like a glow up for lack of a better term,
because I hate glow up because some people do some
people don't. But I felt really good in myself and
I was on top of the world. And then I
lost my job. It's so funny how it and like
not just lost a job, but you knew my identity

(25:21):
was that job. Unfortunately, and I've learned that that wasn't
the smart thing to do. But it was my brand,
it was my gig, it was my job. And you're
on top of the world, you feel great, and then
you just get brought right back down to zero again.
It's wild how that happens.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Well, this was also, I mean in terms of like
a really big life milestone and life years and stuff.
I think you know you're turning thirty in at the
end of this month, very soon as your thirty first
your baby.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
We're gonna be like sol sisters.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
If I'm not, if I'm not in the hospital, I'll
be at your thirtieth.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
But like there, I hope you forgot a baby.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
Your thirtieth feels like and I think for most people
it feels like such a quarnerstone.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
As in terms of birthdays, it's a really big one.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
And you've had such a big year leading up to
this in terms of career change, especially when you say
that identity has been so tied to it.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
What is this year felt like for you?

Speaker 4 (26:09):
This year for me has felt like chasing my tail
and looking for things like looking for leads and I
think when I left the radio show, I was I
really assumed work would just find me. And this is
the first time in my whole career that I've had
to make work and find work and find income. Like
I've always had a safe, cushy salary.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
But I think work has found you, not the working thought.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
So You've got great ambassadorships with different people, and you're
doing a lot of like hosting and MC but I
think when you're in a very niche industry like radio,
and I thought it would find you too really quickly.
But I guess it all has to do with people's
contracts and things like that. But it's the first time
that it didn't just fall into your lap. I guess
because you were once the cash cock and then you

(26:50):
were and everything just sort of happened. You worked hard,
but I think all of us thought that you were
going to leave here and it would just fall into
your lap again.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
And I guess that's.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
An the look at your identity when you're like, Okay,
hang on, who am I if I'm not a radio host?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Is that how you felt?

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Totally. It's the only skill I really had was with radio,
right and then podcasting. True interviewing. Correct. It's all I
had ever done professionally. But it's funny because you guys know,
you were privy to these conversations, like you two of
my closest friends. You knew that. In the end at
a RN, I was not struggling, but I was thinking
what do I want to do next? You know I

(27:27):
love comedy. I love stand up and I opened for
you on the Life un Cut Live tour.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
You were not happy.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
No, I wasn't happy, but I stand up show at
my wedding. You m seed and did a stand up
show when I was like.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Speech, oh okay, if you want to bring up the wedding, Keisha,
can we bring up the wedding. I've prepped Keisha, Sam
Fisher please enter the studio. I brought Sam to discuss
the song of It All Till I Die. Some girl
approached me the week after the wedding and said, oh
my god, are you Mitch? And I thought this is cute.
It is nice. Yeah, I Mitch. I'm listening to Life
onun Cut right now. You know there's tiktoksic what listening

(28:00):
to like life? I was like, oh my god, really, yes,
I can't believe you fucked up its wedding and that's
not embellished. She said, thank god, Laura's I cut for you.
I'm like, yeah, I've always.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
Up any wedding day.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
It doesn't mean I love you less, but I'm not
going to protect you.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yes you did, I did not.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
I'm not going to protect you from the job you
did for free at my wedding. As an altruistic gift,
I have the video of me, yes I do.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I got the chemeras pushed him into the cara. Can't
see I'm.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Going to show you. I'm literally it's the most beautiful moment.
You mess it up.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I'm halfway, I'm halfway down the aisle, and you forgot
to say. Just to set it up, I had Sam
Fisher create like a bespoke song called Till I Die.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
It's about Ben and I. It's an amazing song. Ben
didn't know, and that was our wedding aisle song as
a surprise. Now, because this is a song that.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Has never no one has ever heard it, Ben was
Ben was probably going to be a.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Bit spun out.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's really mean. It's a beautiful time, he would laugh.
I had run Mitch through this so many times. The
wedding plan. I had run Mitch through this so many times.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
All he had to say before I walked out and
the songs had to play was supposed to be like, hey, everyone,
pay attention, Ben, this is a song Brittany has made
for you, because otherwise Ben's not gonna listen to the words.
He's got no idea what's going on. And I was like,
you need to say it, otherwise he'll missed the whole surprise.
I had gone to so much effort to make this
song with Sam, so he doesn't say it. The song
starts playing. I was beside myself. I was like, I

(29:30):
can't believe he didn't say it. Now Ben's not even
going to listen.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I was three quarters away down the aisle about to
embrace Ben.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
And then Mitch remembers, and he goes over the music,
over everything, and he goes everyone paying really quick attention
because right now this is the song that Brittany made
for Ben with Sam Fisher.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Listen to it. And then it was.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Over all right, I'm gonna let you finish. I'm look
at this my camera. It's time for my side. You.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Also, I do want to say one thing he said,
you didn't just say it was a song that britt
made with sant Fisher. You made sure that you got
in the ARIA Award winning fish.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
So all right, here's what happened, ladies and gentlemen on
this show. This has been referred to as a wedding.
This was Carol's in the domain. This was a production.
I turn up to the cliff side of State at
ull lu Watu. Never been there before in my life,
sweating my tits off in pants.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Wasn't allowed to wear shorts, weren't allowed to bear shorts.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
There were rules in pants. And I turn up. Seventeen
handlers flocked to me like it's New Year's Eve on
arbor Bridge area. They all had headsets up. She goes,
mister Mitch, mister Mitch, I'm the I'm one of many
organizers for the day. I thought this a bit much.
One of the many organizers. She's like, I'm the assistant
to Marie and then Marie's assistant to Jennifer. I'm like,
there's so many people.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
She said, Brittany is over here, of course.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
And I said, okay, thank you. She went, here's your
run sheet. There's been many changes, and I go, what
do you mean many changes? She goes, well, you're doing
the ceremony. I said, I didn't. I'm not to celebrate. No, no, no,
britt just wants you to do it because it's not
a legal wedding. You have to host the ceremony.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
But that's where well who said that?

Speaker 4 (30:59):
That was never Yah, that's what I said. So I
was like, okay. She goes, here are your here's your script.
I'm like, what's happening. She's like, well, the kids will
come out in that little in that little box, and
then Cherry will come out, and Sherry's got a song,
and then Prince and I thought, oh god, there's so
many cues. There's so many cues.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
There were no cues.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
There were cues. Okay, I don't want to. I don't
want to, you know, along the short of it. The
second time I've said that. Today, I was standing there
and the song started playing. I was told I would
say Brittany Harkiley and then the song would play, but
the song auto played, and what I didn't want to do,
this is the truth. I didn't forget. I didn't want
to crash the vocals, like I didn't want to speak
over the lyrics. So I was waiting for a breath,

(31:38):
like I was waiting for for Sam to go.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Mitch, I love you. I've got the video. I know
how it went down.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
That's true, it's right.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
We love you anyway. You fucked up a wedding, one
of them.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
I did not fuck up the wedding.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Wedding was beautiful.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Nothing was fucked and it's all fun and games.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Let's talk about Mitch's redundancy now.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, okay, so that's.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Where we were.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
There. Any positive story that's going to come out of
the city, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
The it's the end. It's the round circle of where
you are.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
How now we can go through hardships in life and
come out the other side with absolute fucking joy and success.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
And that's where we're getting to.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
I do worry that some people listen to this and
are like these three even friends, it's like frenemies. We're
such good friends that this is so deeply above board
like that.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
It's okay, this is.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Way worse looking at Keisha right now. It's been my worst.
Can I say one thing, no.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
One, I'll delete it out if I don't want it
in here.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Good, I'm joking. Delete I love about Okay. My favorite
thing Aboutlauria is she says delete remember I radio shit.
We'd say something, sure, delete delete delete, Laura would say
it like it was live rated, like Siri was listening.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Shut delete, hey radio delete delete Okay sorry.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
My one thing to say is what I love about
our friendship and our little friendship group is that we've
all had sex in BRIT's bedroom.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Keisha to everyone, Yeah, everyone's done it.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
I've only ever had sex in BRIT's bedroom when it
was actually my bedroom. So I've made two children in
that bedroom.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Did you make the girls in that bedroom?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I made Marley an Laula in that bedroom.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
And Keisha, you slept in that bedrooms bedroom too many times,
so have I and so is Brit.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
So it's a brothel.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
White. Wait, with the fact that Ben lives overseas means
we've probably had more sex in that bedroom than you had.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Accurate, that's active.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I definitely have had more sex in that bedroom than anyway.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
High five.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Right, I'mn'm glad we've established this.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
Okay, moving along now, Yes, I'm so glad that that's
where you took That's one thing you absolutely had to
interrupt for what's.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
The one thing I prepped in the car. I'm like,
I'm going to make a joke that we've all sex
in bedroom.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
We were talking about this year being a very big
year going from like this massive identity shift. Obviously, when
your identity is tied to work, I know we have
to be sensitive about how we get into this conversation,
but like, how did you deal with those months afterwards
after going from being like I'm a radio guy to
being like, Okay, I'm not a radio guy right now,
So what am I?

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yeah? I really don't know. I don't have an answer
for you. It took time and I had to learn
to be okay with it. I'm also not like a
bit of person like I genuinely like I can hold
a grudge with friends, like that wedding thing. I think
it's funny, there's nothing, yeah, but it's nothing. But I
genuinely am not a grudge holder. Like it ties back
into me with the X wanting to be friends, like
it ruminates in my head and I and I'll go crazy.

(34:08):
I'll go a little manck if I if I keep
thinking about it. So I had to just be okay
with it. There's no other option. But I like you
go to my home office and it is Kiss FM
branded chair. I have Kiss FM neons, all the for
all that stuff back and I went in the back
of my hand I had thirty and I sped off
into the sunset, Adam, I secure parking spot. I don't know.
I was tough, Like it was really tough. I think

(34:29):
I'm in a really lucky position. Like a lot of
people get maybe redundant every year, but we're in a
lucky position in what we do for a living is
that we have there is an audience there and I
could go out and I could get jobs like ambassadorships
like I'm doing with Stand and I can also you know,
it gets a bit of sponsored work, and I have
worked with brands like McCain's chips and you know and Appliance.

(34:50):
Oh no, it was making fun of it. I'm not
making fun of McCain's Superfris. Oh, but I get you
and you can do sponsor work. So I think that
like kept me going. But like you know, for a
lot of people to get made redundant, got to find
another actual job, Like there was a lot of privilege
there for me. But I think I'm still untying from it.
To be honest with you.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
I think, I mean, it's very it's kind of you
to say there's a lot of privilege there, but I
think anyone who's gone through the process of redundancy, especially
when it's a job they love, like I think, you know,
if you go through redundancy and you know it's a
job that you kind of were neither here neither there
in terms of your career, and you have the option
around like, Okay, do I do it this way? Do
I take my redundancy? Like people, there's many different versions

(35:28):
of how people have experienced redundancy, And in terms of yours,
you had been with Aaron for so long, you were
literally like such a core part of the DNA that
makes up this place. And also like our show, you
were such a cool part of our show. And I
know that for anyone who's been listener to the pod
for a long time, or also you know, even the
radio show itself, like we didn't know that that was

(35:48):
happening and we had no control over that situation. But
I feel like we need to say that for all
the jokes that we've already front loaded, and it was
it was so hard, it was devastating. It was devastating
because we didn't want to see you be hurt, but
also it was you know, losing a kidney. Yeah, it
was losing We lost a third of the show that day.
You know, you know what I think happens like a
lot of the time when you do have to have

(36:09):
these moments that are out of your control.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
You know, you're in your comfort zone. You know it's
a job that you can do.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
You've been in this role for ten years and then
that's no longer available to you. You have to become
creative and figure out, well, what the fuck is next?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
And that's something that you have done very very well.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
And one of the biggest reasons why we wanted to
get you on the show was to talk about what
it is that you've put your focus into and where
you are now and how you feel about that.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah, I feel great. I feel really good. I'm success
driven and I was talking to you guys in Kish
before we started recording. But people keep asking me, or
they see things on social media, or they see this
new podcast that I've launched and they're like, oh, you're
so happy that everything happened.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
The Midstury Chat Show. We're going to get into it
two seconds the.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Midstuury Chat Show, and I haven't had that moment yet
of like aha, like success, like the pennies dropped. I'm
so glad I was made redundant from kids, and everyone
that I talked to in the creative industry say, I
remember that moment when I was made redundant that I thought, yes,
like that happened to me for a reason. But I
haven't had that yet.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
I know why you haven't had it because you haven't
had it because you're you could be doing the both concurrently.
So it feels like, you know what I mean, It
feels like this opportunity hasn't just happened because of that.
I think you would have done them both eventually. But
I but you do need to kick up the butt sometimes,
Like we've been telling you for years, and you've been

(37:26):
saying you're going to do it a stand up comedy show.
But I think until you get really pushed into doing something,
which is what's happened when you lost your job at radio,
you're like, oh, it can't be a pipeline dream anymore.
I need to put things into action or I can't
pay my bills. So I think it's like Whilst it's
not a I'm so glad it happened, I do think
it was a bit of a catalyst for you to get.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Your shit going totally. And you know what's funny like
And this is no shade to the network or where
I used to work, but I have realized that there
is like starting in radio at nineteen, the job and
you guys will know, is you get given things. When
you're on at any radio network, you get given a
show and it is congratulations, we have given you this.
There are people that choose to make or break your career.

(38:07):
So I'm trying to unlearn waiting for someone to give
me something. Yeah, And I'm also trying to unlearn being
okay with making a creative decision and backing it because
I've never been able to say, this is my vision,
I'm making it. It's out into the world. There were
layers of approval, there was you know, I don't want
to go into the details.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
But it's also the brutal part of working in the
entertainment industry across the board.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
It's not unique to radio, it's acting.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
It's any creative industry where the employment comes from someone
who makes the choices you know, that's why podcasting came about.
I mean, originally there was no space for women's voices
on radio. We were always the accessory to a main
host who is the man, and then the woman's a sidekick.
Like that has been the absolute formula for radio for

(38:52):
the dawner time, whereas now, like you know, women are
getting a bit of presents. But the whole reason why
podcasting started in the beginning was because there were so
many women who wanted to be in broad cast and
there was no avenue for them. That's how Mum and
Mia came about. It's how Shameless came about, you know,
and it's literally how we came about. And so once
upon a time, I think the barrier for entry for
podcast is quite low, but the barrier for entry and

(39:13):
doing it well and actually being successful in this space
is extremely high because it is incredibly competitive.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Now, oh, it's ridiculous, and I've entered into it.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
So now you've entered it in a way that is
like incredibly high in terms of premium, in terms of
the concept, like, yeah, you haven't just like launched a
crash or launched a product where you know, you're like
we did at the time, we're recording it out of
the bedroom. Like you have put so much energy into
this Mistie chat show, and this has been something that's
been concepted over the past year.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
I think of the name, so it's actually my name,
Oh yeah, yeah, and it's a chat show, so yeah,
that was the first thought I had the name.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I listened to the first episode and I love the
fact before everyone go and have listened to it a
mystery chat show. But I love that you put so
much thought into it that we and we brainstormed so
many times. But ultimately, you want to be a chat
show host, not a podcast on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
That's your dream.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
So it's like, what's your dream and then you've got
to go and figure out a way to get there.
The way for you to get there is to be
tried and tested and create your own product and then
hope someone sees and picks it up. So your podcast
isn't a normal podcast. You've created a whole set that
looks like a chat show that will go on YouTube.
So it is a bit of a standalone I think
in the Australian podcasting space.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Oh that's sweet from you guys.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Really tell everybody what to expect on the show.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Here's the inception I left Arn and I was sent
by a friend. Actor Awards, which you've been too, brit
It's it's like the Emmys in Australia for Acting and Screen.
They had a scholarship or a funding for a brand
new concept. It was best New Concept. It was reg
Grundy Award and it was fifty grand for a new
TV show idea. And I just left Kiss. Someone in
the industry sent it to me, and you know, and

(40:54):
all my friends know that I want to have a
chat show, a row style chat show. Conan O'Brien. It's
been my dream as long as as I can remember.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
It's also the space that you're very good in.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, and I enjoy it. I do enjoy it. And
I applied and I created a pitch deck, and I didn't.
I had a lot of time and I wanted to
distract myself, and I created the Mitch Jury chat Show.
I got branding done and I had the concept and
I was lucky that I had ten years of celebrity
interviews like Miley Cyrus, do be leap it like all
these celebs, And it got nominated and it didn't win.
Jamie Jury won for a new gardening.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Show that's on, unusual for new talent, being for.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
A rich man as well. Anyway, he got the fifty grand,
and what I had was this amazing pitch deck and
all these TV connections had. I spoke to all the networks.
I pitched a ten seventy nine. I took all the
concept to all of them and they all loved it.
But they said, we want a pilot. And this whole
TV world is so new to me, and I mean,
you guys would know they wanted a pilot, and they said,
you fund it. I got it all budgeted. It was

(41:45):
like eighty grand to build a set for one episode
higher like camera riggers and film crew and pay talent
to come in. And well, in this new age, why
don't I just create that, use that money to build
a set, create a podcast. I've got the connections anyway
with the artists, and I can do it every week.
And then in a year's time, not only will I
have one pilot, I'll have fifty two, fifty three, fifty

(42:07):
four episodes, and I'll have an audience and it's I've
got commercial back it and.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
You own it.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
And I own one hundred percent of the IP. So
that's what this is. So the mid Chery Chat Show
with our very first guest, Tyra Banks is out into
the world, and there's two episodes. One episode a week
is with Grace, who is producer Grace from the pick
Up Adoor Grace, Producer Grace.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, she's amazing.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
We see what's going on here now. Actually we I
mean we've been across in state one.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
We were so excited that she gets to be a
part of this. Yeah, because you guys, I mean, like
producer Grace, you've had her chime in on the Pickup,
which we've put into the podcast anyway. But she also
was like the second voice in Mitch's radio show, like
as in his night show. So you know, in terms
of how the two of you bounce off each other,
it's really awesome.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
We also have a lot in common, like Grace is
married to a woman.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
She's also she's like you similar.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
That was the funniest you've ever been. Thanks, Thanks those
all mines. And we just have a lot in common.
We have a lot of We have a similar if like,
we love pop culture, we love entertainment, we love celebrit
we love memes, we love jokes. So one episode a
week is Grace and I and it's just unpacking stories
of the week. It's not reinventing the wheel. Then the
second episode is purely made for YouTube on our bespoke

(43:17):
set with a celebrity guest myself and yeah, you can
get it on podcast app Spotify, the Mitch Cherry Chat
Show watch on YouTube too.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
A lot of people might not know, but a lot
of people will know.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
But sometimes you get big interviews across podcasting or radio
or whatever it is, or if you're going to a
press junkit for TV, and people come with like absolute
non negotiables that you can talk about. So a lot
of managers will come in and say, oh, cute, you're
interviewing Brittany. You cannot talk about this this this is
this like as an example, and you were talking about
how that had happened with a few people in your past,

(43:51):
but it happened with Jojo Siwa on one of your
interviews where there was like this huge list of no goes.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Do you think that's going to be different or have
you experienced that so far?

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Now that you own this show, are you going to
have somebody on if they write to you and say, hey,
this is the list of things we can't talk about.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
So it's actually a very good question because all the
music labels in this country and all the TV networks
and film companies are genuinely so excited to have something
like this. I'm pleasantly surprised at the amount of support
that we've been that's been thrown our.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Way well, because there's very few options for long form
you know, everything is bitsy radio interviews. But I think
that that's because like back in the day, most of
the networks and most of the agencies, they really were
like so hard on protecting talent, whereas now they've realized
the benefit in audiences really engaging with talent based or
not just their music but their story.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
They are.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yeah, and also there's so much to discuss in this space.
I love it is these celebs, we call them celebs.
They're people. They also sit at home and they scroll
on TikTok and they are watching the content from Life
on Cut, They're watching the content from Chicken Shop Date,
They're watching hot Ones, and they go, why would I
go on morning TV and and sit there for six
minutes and ask questions off a teleprompter when I can

(45:03):
go and eat hot chicken wings and it can get
one hundred million views and have a laugh and plus
it's fun. And guess what, I'm thirty five and I'm
watching this content at home. It's it's a space in
this country that hasn't expanded, hasn't blown up yet. You
guys are genuinely on the forefront of podcasting and I
love what you're doing on your YouTube and I'm watching
those numbers grow. But in this country, compared to the

(45:23):
UK and the US, there is just not shows set
up like international.

Speaker 6 (45:27):
And celebrity, Celebrityism, Celebritism or celebrity just celebrity. Let's go celebrityism.
What's point in your celebrity ism is changing? And like
Laura said, just to like unpack that a bit.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
It used to be that they were these mythical creatures
that you didn't have access to, and just if you
could just get them for an interview and they could
just say one good thing about the show they're on,
it was enough. Now people have realized pr I've realized
that the rogue stories are what gets pressed. Yes, they're
talking a bit about your love life. You don't have
to give it all the way, but that peak behind
the curtains is not only what gets you pressed, but

(46:01):
it's what's expected. And if some if a talent comes
on and does an episode or an interview and they're
not giving anything away but talking about a movie, no
one cares anymore.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
It's also Yeah, I think it's also to do with
social media. I mean, we've been so groomed now to
know that if we want accessibility to these people beyond
the roles that they play in movies and in TV
shows and everything else, that we can go to social
media and see that. You know, we were even talking
about it on an episode recently, like Kate Hudson and
how she was doing that. Unfortunately, I do love trend
and I was like, you know, you see her being her,

(46:31):
not playing a role, and you love them even more
because it gives you this feeling of like, oh, I
know them beyond that character that they played. And that
is like the absolute juice of podcasting because it's long form.
You get into intimate conversations and you were able to
dictate the space of that. If this was actually a
talk show on a TV show, you would still be

(46:52):
restricted within your twenty minutes. You're half an hour, your
ad spaces like there would still be a lot of orchestrating,
whereas podcasting doesn't have that.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Oh and our boss is the audience. Like I've learned
so much from you guys, just listening to the back
end of how like this success isn't luck. You guys
work so hard. I've seen how much work you put
into this show.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
And we make it look like we don't do anything,
but really we work really hard.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
No, but like you guys need your flowers. You've opened
a lot of doors for women, especially in this country,
and like you know, boys like me, like I have
a lot of my profile thanks to you guys. I
was in a radio show for a long time, and
you know, getting paired with you was something that I
will forever remember as a really form neive moment in
my life. I love both of you, and.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
It's silly, that's all quiet.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
I taught Pritt how to do the two fingerhearts, so
now she does it, she.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Thinks she's do you know how I have to do it?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Minch, I can't do it with that going peace flip
it Ninja chop.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
So now that's you're so cool. But then when you
say it's just the clip in fringe. No. I just
love that the audience is in control because if the
content's not working, and they'll tell you or you'll know
because no one's going to be listening or no one's
going to watch. So it's so great that we can
follow the audience rather than follow an executive if he says,
you're gonna do this or you're going to make this
creative decision.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
Yeah, And it's really different with radio in terms of
like when you come from a radio background, it's very
hard to know the truth of what the audience is
listening to and engaging with. Firstly, you're played out on broadcasts,
you're amongst a whole heap of ads and a whole
heap of music. Secondly, the way in which surveys are
done in this country is something that everyone is always
unsure about. It's like, I don't know where these people

(48:23):
are that drive around with paper books in their car
and write down what radio stations they're listening to. But one,
it's an incredibly manual process. And with podcasting, the analytics
behind it are in real time and you can see
who's listening. You can find out when people are dropping
out of listening to an episode, if we play an
ad that you hate, you tell us. If we play
something or say something that you hate, you tell Like,

(48:44):
the feedback is so instantaneous that it allows you to
get better very very quickly.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
If you listen to.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
Your audience, what I doubt you adapt. Yeah, And you
don't have that touch point when you're in radio. It's
such a unique experience in comparison.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Yeah, And I listen to the radio, and I truly
think radio has as an identity crisis at the moment, Like,
I don't think the medium knows what it wants to
do or what it can do right. And I don't know.
I worry for the future of radio because I love
it so much. I love that live element, and you've
seen me thrive in that live studio. I love that energy,
and I love entertainment. But I'm enjoying so much learning

(49:18):
this new medium and learning how to flex my the
entertainment muscle, which is similar but it is also very different.
In podcasting and now there's cameras in our faces, it's
video podcasting. It's it's new, and it's exciting, and I
am loving doing this show. I'm feeling really fulfilled.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Mitch. When we coming on well, I'm no.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Of course, no, please, of course I think we do separate.
I don't think we get you on together.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
No, we need separate.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Yeah, Laura will talk about it.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
It just Britney being like separate.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Pretty we must do separate.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
And had I fought for you to get Mitch's car
park but there's any one car park?

Speaker 3 (49:52):
No, because I would have only taken it. Just so
you know, I said we need to I'll take produce.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
You did not.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I did know I did. I tried to get the park.
That's real.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Send me, send me the email.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I'm happy to. I'm happy to.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
I'll get you on. I'd love to have you both on.
It's so funny.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
We would love to come. We have separate of course.
Of course can I bring the baby?

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Which one?

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Then you one?

Speaker 4 (50:15):
You got so many?

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Can I breastfeed on the show?

Speaker 4 (50:17):
You know I pitched you of course I pitched him
out to go in two doting dads. It's like you're
not a dad, the preyer.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Sorry, oh that really further? Does that really bad?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
You not have done? That's that's a fair point.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
You're daddy, but I am a daddy.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
No, I'm not going to labor.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
I just had a really bad like kick and like
bracks and hicks at the same time, because it made
me laugh.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
I would make.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Great if I made you laugh so hard that you
gave birth. That do many things you go on my show.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Let's just put that clip on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
As much as we're having fun doing this, we do
have to wrap up what is next for you just started.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
But that's not you don't.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
We don't stop at one thing. Like you've got big dreams.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
I do.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
It's about it.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
I do have big dreams. I do have big dreams. Well,
I'm starting acting classes with a friend of mine who
also acts.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I was like, have you replaced me?

Speaker 4 (51:05):
It's you?

Speaker 2 (51:05):
That's oh, yeah, we are, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
That's you.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
That's still in the That's yeah. We've got something specially
in the works.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
We getting close.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
This thing is stuck in the works. I think it's joking.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
You guys have been talking about Sorry, I know you're
trying to talk, like in cryptic currency about the cry.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
You guys have been talking about this thing in the
works for four years. Everyone knows, no, do you know
what it?

Speaker 3 (51:24):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:24):
This is proper in the works.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Mitch and I have like really big things happening behind
the scenes that we are so close to. You guys
seen us on your TV and there's a few speed
bumps that are very frustrating, but we're working through it.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Red tape, so acting classes will be handy. I actually
have about a page and a half of new stand
up material that I've written, and it's about all the
ship jobs that I've done since leaving Arn, since leaving Kiss. Like,
they got offered to be involved in an inclusion campaign
for an underwear company, but I weren't, and I was like,
I'd love to and it was inclusion and it was
around pride. I'm like, this is great. This is because
I'm a queer icon. I can wear these undies.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
So then they asked you to take your shirt off
and you were like, fuck that.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
Then they asked me to take my shirt off and
I said no, I'd like to keep my shirt on,
and they said, no, having you a part of this campaign,
it's imperative that your shirt is off, and I'm like,
that's so weird that it's imperative that my shirt was off. Anyway,
long story short, they wanted me because I would plus size,
not because I'm goad. The inclusion wasn't the inclusion wasn't gay.
The inclusion was man tits Mitch.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
We love you so much. I'm so proud of you.
We had so much fun at the launch party for
your podcast.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Thank you for coming to that week we have an
event there.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
They have missed it.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
I love The headline after was Brittany and Laura turn
up to assist downtrodden friends.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Oh shut up, it was not pretty close and fat friend.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
I would buy celebrity girls.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
If they were saying that about anyone.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
It was about me.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
I was like dragging my stomach across the floor bottling
into that venue.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Wait, can I just do one thing before we go.
It's one of the funniest things that I've ever seen
in my life. The Daily Mail article when I was
when I was fired and I was I walked out
of the studio on our last day and there were
paparazzi and they were taking photos Ki Chin and well,
like shit, paparazzi, We're just going to get a panini.
We were walking out and if you read the article,
it's like mid cheery fire his pictures and you look
at the pictures and the captions are Laura Burns stunts

(53:06):
in a matching Gorman set and then I go, okay,
so I scored on the next one, and BRIT's hugging me.
I'm like, oh, this will say something. Brittany Hockley looks
gorgeous in the Laurna Jane matching. I'm oh, all right,
it was just about our outfits, not you get the
next one. Brittany Hockley's Gucci Gucci crocs buy them here link.
I'm like, wow, they're putting the link in there.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
I think they get affiliate kickbacks. I'm convinced of the
Daily mailget's affliate kickbacks was a.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
Fit check for the two of you on the day
that I was fired.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
All right, we really are going to wrap it. We
love you, We're so proud of you.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
If you haven't listened to the Mix True Chat Show yet,
it's available wherever you get your podcast, wherever you list
your podcast, and I hopefull by the time this comes out,
Tyra Banks.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Will also Tyra Banks Yeah, will also be available. Tarra Banks,
Poverty Shallow, who Won, Who Won Survivor She's an Key
will be all over that interview. So if you love
pop culture and culture and entertainment and you want to
laugh and celeb You'll love this show. And if you
ever liked anything the three of us did, Life Is,
it would mean the world if you could have a
listen and enjoy the show.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Get her out of it. You know, you know what
to do life Is, And I'm sure they will.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
I love you both so much, so much, We love
unbelievable and I'm so excited for a little baby wils.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
That comet I'm bringing into studio and we do our.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Record just so in my show. Okay, yeah sure, And.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
I'm in a breastfeed and then we can send that
to the Daily Mail and get them to write an
article fantastic breastfeeding mothers on set.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Laura Stunns as she wears Bongella nipple cream on some
show on Downtrodden, fire Friends Show, My Cleaning Year.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
We love you, Mitch.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
We love love, We love love,