April 4, 2025 • 41 mins
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- Have we evolved past the need for encores at concerts?
- Frida is selling BREAST MILK ice cream
- Full interview with Sam Fischer - he chats his new single and the sad reason he had to leave LA
- The Lola Takedown/Rebrand (Laura can't get Lola to sleep in her own bed)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded on camaagle Land.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life
on Cut.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and this is our.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Radio show, The Pickup, where we package up all the
best bits from the week.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And we bring it here for you to listen to.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
We did have a really fun week. Actually we had
Sam Fisher in the studio with this. I love Sam.
If you came to any of our Life Uncut Live
shows when we toured around Australia, he was I shouldn't
say our support act. He's so much bigger than us,
but he was our support act. He opened the show.
He's the singer of this sit has gone O Bregmah, don't.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Butcher his beautiful songs brute Well.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I just wanted people to know, just like how big
we're talking.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We adore him. But he also has a brand new
single coming out. And also, I mean, I love this
conversation because he has just recently gone independent, so he's
left his big music label that he was a part of,
and he talks about the I guess, like the industry,
but also just how hard it is when you were
signed a huge label deal and like the things that
you have to go through because I do think that
(01:05):
there's this kind of expectation that if you have this
massive hit, then it must equate to money. And you know,
Sam's been definitely through some challenging times, and he was
talking very vulnerably about how you can have a huge
hit like this City that's listened to and streamed billions
of times and actually make no money from it.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's sly exaggeration or quite billions of millions and millions
of time, but like, yeah, his music has been streamed
nearly a billion times for sure, But that was really
fascinating how vulnerable he was.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Insane.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's such a common misconception to think that every single
hit artist is loaded, like he ends up moving back
in with his in laws and stuff. And we've spoken
about in the past, who like Lily Allen when she
came out recently and said that she makes more money
on her feet only fans than she does from some
of her music, which is absolutely insane. And that's because
(01:54):
depending on like when people sign and who they signed to.
If you're a small dog when you sign and then
you make it big, it doesn't matter. You've been locked
into whatever you were when you saw it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, it's not just that, it's also how much money
was contributed to the pr and promotion. So you end
up with, yes, a hit, but a huge debt that
you have to pay back yeah to the music labels.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's really fascinating.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So he goes into all that and also his new
song also something that I shared on the show. So
like Lola, you guys probably know a little bit about this,
but we've kind of made such massive headways with her
over the last few weeks. The Dummy Fairy came and
it was exceptional, but now we are trying to work
through the fact that every night she sleeps in our bed,
and when I say our bed, it's kind of turned
into my bed because Matt now leaves our bed and
(02:36):
goes and sleeps in the spare room. So it's just
Lola and I and this has been something that's been
increasing since Matt was in the jungle.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Look, it's definitely.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
A tricky thing, and it's the next on the agenda
in working on the lolaisms in our life and.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
To get my life back on track.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I just yeah, I just want to feel like me again.
I want to sleep next to my husband. I get
that I want to say next to her husband as well. Anyway, guys,
let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, these old ducks. I shouldn't cause old ducks, but
I feel like it's been.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
A hot second since I've been to a concert. We
went to Duaiba on the weekend. Look at the disgust
on your face that I.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Said these old ducks.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, because I was like, speak for yourself. Also, I've
been to a few concerts recently. One of them does
make me feel old because it was Blink one eight two.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So, and I also say old ducks because I have realized,
probably in the last twelve months, I've been to a
few concerts, and I know you and I have discussed it, Laura,
but I realized I am at the point where I
don't want to be standing anymore, and that I think
comes from age. I want the comfort of a seat,
I want the option to be able to sit down.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
My back hurts, my fee I've definitely I've passed the
threshold because when I was younger, like when I was
in my twenties or I was eighteen nineteen, and I
was like a real either festival or.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Concert goer, raver.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I remember thinking this one I remember being at a
concert and thinking, who would ever buy a ticket as
an option to sit in the stand, Like, if you
had the ability to be in GA, and you could
be amongst it, in the vibrant moshpit, why would you
ever like want to voluntarily choose to sit in the stand.
Now you get it, and Okay, something's happened in the
last few years.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And I don't know when it did. I don't know
when it took over.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I think it was a moment last concert of two
when you jumped up and down and wet yourself. I
reckon that was the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It was my perfect floor that let me down. I
reckon it probably was, But no, so we did. Juliep
it very differently, britt you had a wonderful.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Very lush experience.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I was in a suite, yes, and I was with
my sister and we went GA, and like, I thought,
I'm going to get down there, I'm going to dance,
I'm gonna non stop enjoy myself, and I reckon, I
got about forty five minutes in and I was like, oh,
my perfect floor feels heavy, monees hurt, and I'd love
to sit down. And there's an eighteen year old smack
into my back who's had too many like tequila shots, so.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Like it's a different vibe. Now, it's a different experience. Well,
I wanted to talk.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
About something else. I didn't want to rub it into
you that I was seated. I'll stop it. With the
toilet available to me and I didn't have to wet
my pants.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Unrelatable for everybody who had to get GA.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I felt very lucky, Yes, but I want to talk
about something else, something I realized in the moment that
I'm over and I don't want to happen at concerts anymore,
the humble or not so humble encore, the idea of
an encore, I'm done with it. Just sing your song.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Just sing your songs. Don't pretend to sneak away so
that we call you back. We don't want to, like
I don't want a chance. We will just do your songs, Belise.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I do just think it's one of those outdated things
that people or artists maybe just think has to happen.
Like you know, when you go to a wedding, there's
things you need to tick a box off, Like when
you're holding a wedding, you need to do the speeches,
you need to do the cake, you need to do
the bowels.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I think artists, not that I have and one or
will ever be one, but I think that they used
to think that that was how a concert needed to go.
You had to go off and pretend. Then you had
to be called back on and be like, Okay, I'll
pretend to sing.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Obviously, because once upon a time it had a point,
Like once upon a time, people would leave and the
concept would be finished, and people would scream for them
to come back, and they'd scream and chant, chant, chant,
and then eventually the artist would be like, oh my god,
stop fair you guys love me so much.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I'm back.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
The problem is now is that the encore is written
into the set list. Yes, and with Jewel Leaper my
only gripe, like my only because the concert was amazing
and she's like the hottest thing that's ever graced the planet.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But she can also king. Literally the entire time, I
was like, look at her, she's so hot.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
The best song, like my favorite song that she sings
was in the encore, so I was like, you plan this, Yep, that.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Was intentional because she knows people like you want to
leave early, so I just with the masses, but.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You also know that an oncre is coming. And the
absolute telltale sign of this is that the lights don't
go back on, so they.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Say bye everyone bye, and then.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
They walk off and it stays pitch black, so you
can't leave in if you wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
And also all their musicians are still gearing up. The
drumm's still twirling the drum sticks in his fingers, like
you know they're about to crack on.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But I would appreciate it so much more if they
caught us.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Betest bade just like sing it, pump it out, and
then at the end you're like, thank you, I'm properly
going now, thank you for your time.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I went to a Food Fighters concert forever ago and
Dave Grohl is notorious for not doing cheating.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I mean, sorry what sorry, continued please, I was a
slipper of the tongue for.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Not doing encores. He's like, we don't do them. We
have our set list. People know what they're getting. Just
cheer and you know that the last song's coming, so
cheer that it's the last song.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
How long do you think after he walked off that
people realized you were serious, like how long do you
think people?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
No, you know, so he literally was like at the concert,
he said, he said, I don't do on course.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You're not getting an on care.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
This is the last song and it was, and to
be fair, like the lights came on. There was quite
a few people that stayed and cheered, but then nothing
happened and we all left.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So people were like, he'll be back.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I was like, good on him, Good on him for
sticking to his guns and staying true to like you
don't believe systems at all.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
One concert that I went to, I can't remember who,
but it was only in the last two years, and
I remember.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Being like, oh that, like they fooled me.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
They were like bye, thank you for coming, and I
was like it's over, let's go. I don't think they're
coming back, and I left to beat everyone. And then
as I was like leaving the concert walking to the train,
I heard them come back on and I was like, god,
damn it. I was like, I missed it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's why I made the feeling dirty about that, aren't
you I really am.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I haven't moved on anyway. Goodbye to the encore. If
you are any huge artist listening right now?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Great?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Actually, everyone everyone likes ice cream, right, It's just like
a universally known thing.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I will order it to my house most nights of
the week. I don't even go get it. I'm that lazy.
It gets delivered. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Are there any flavors you won't do?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Though?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Licorice, hate it?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Liquor Who who even makes liquorice ice cream?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I don't know. I do love the humble vanilla.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I'm a bit against pistachio. I've always can't really do it.
I feel like it's a waste of an ice cream flavor.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Where's this going? Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Look, I would say that most things I will try,
Like most ice creams, I'm here to give it a go.
Like you know, I think ninety even some of the wacky,
weird ones.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Are pretty delicious.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
There is a new ice cream flavor out there that
Australians will be able to try in exactly nine months,
and I don't know if we're going to feel the
same about this one.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Have a listen to this.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
So we're creating a frozen treat that satisfies your late
nate creamings and fuels your body the way that brass
milk and formula fuela beeties sweet, nutty, a little salty,
and swirled with rich, creamy fat.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
You've tried the rest, now try the breast.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay, I love this, stop it you don't like. This
company is called Freeda. They're a company that's known for
creating it's like, quite innovative, but often very provocative and
controversial products for.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Mothers and babies.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They have announced that they are bringing out a breast
milk flavored ice cream.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I have two questions here.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Is it made with breast milk or is it just
breast milk flavored, because that's two different things.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Okay, I understand that you brought this, but I've obviously
read more about it. No, it's not paid. It's not
made with breast milk. It's breast milk flavored. And I
think that this is a brilliant idea brilliant marketing. All
this is is marketing. It's coming in nine months, which
I think is so funny. They've advertised it now and said, hey,
it'll be out in nine months, but they've said it's
going to taste like it and be filled with the
(09:46):
same kind of nutrients, So the saying is going to
be sweet creamy nutrient pact. It's going to have all
the like Amiga threes and the carbs and everything that
you would get in breast milk. But it's not breast milk.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, the question is whose breast is it made from?
Because if it's cawer milk, it's still technically breast milk.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Right, Well, this is the problem. Right we drink milk
from a cow's titty. What's the difference? What is the difference?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The difference is, go on, what is it that I'm
not having an adult suckle my breast to get some
cow milk? Actually, I'm not gonna suckle a cow's either
ordering ice cream and they're not.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Getting you turned up at the door and saying you
have a suckle. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I think the thing is that because you can buy
it from the supermarket, it feels so removed from the sauce.
And maybe because I've actually breast fed a child, or
they feel something quite different about like an adult human
drinking that.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I know that it's a weird concept when you think
about the fact that once upon a time someone stood
out in a feel and thought, I'm gonna milk that
drink it, make.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It out cheese out of it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I can't get my head around the flavor because I
actually think it probably would be quite nice. But thank
god it's not actually made out of breast milk, because
I think that there would be a whole lot of
problems attached to that.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, funny you say that. In twenty eleven there was
an ice cream store in London called Great Name, Baby
Gaga that was the name, and they were making ice
cream with donated breast milk, so it was real breast milk,
but they got shut down for safety concerns, which is
also fair. Like if you don't know where that's.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Coming from, is it unpasteurized? Who knows. I've tried breast milk.
I tried my own. I would think that's normal. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's very very sweet, and I guess like for me,
it probably would have been nice if it was cold.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I don't really like warm milk, so that was weird.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It comes out body temperature obviously, so it's not quite
hot milk.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I picture it like the consistency, and I know it's
not the flavor. When I think of it, I think
of it like condensed milk.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, no, no, it's just sweet, not like syrups sweet,
no snow.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's very watery, so it's like quite watery.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Also, it changes color, like sometimes it can be a
bluey color. Sometimes it can be really yellow gatorades. It
depends on what you've been eating, yes, but mine was
like kind of like more of a yellowy color and it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Was just really sweet. Do you what happened to me?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So I was like postpartum and I had had to
express to get my milk going.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I was still in hospital, and I.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Had a cup of tea and I'd expressed into a
takeaway cup.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So this was like early doors of Mali being born.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I'd expressed into a takeaway cup that was very similar
to the cup I had of tea, and I must
have just been still a bit out of my mind
and out of my wits because I just picked up
the wrong cup and took a full swig of what
I'd expressed into it, thinking.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It was the end of my tea.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It was an early introduction to breast milk.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Put it that way.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But people swear by that there are people that actually
use that for health benefits, the Kardashians, for example. When
I think it's Courtney. When she's feeling unwell, she would
drink a cup of breast milk because it's filled with
so many nutrients. And when you think about it, it's
keeping a baby alive. It is growing that single handedly
growing a human life.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
But that one's an interesting one because the thing is
is you're giving your antibodies to the baby. You've already
got them, so redrinking them I don't think is going
to help, you know. You know what I did though,
So apparently there's like lots of research in it that
it's like breast.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Milk is really good for your skin.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's really good if you have like skin rashes, if
you have any allergies or whatever. And yeah, there was
a while there where I was like, well, feed the
baby squirt a bit, use it like a tona And
I would just stick breast milk on my babe. In
Perry or Aldo I do I get Perry Old dom Titus,
And I was like, I'll try anything to get rid
of this, and it actually.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Was not bad.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
If I have another kid, I'll probably do it again.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Well, we have the man himself in the studio with
us today. Sam, You've been a friend of us for
so long. We've done many interviews with you. You even
came on our Life on Cut podcast tour with us
to every single show. We couldn't love you more. Welcome
to the pickup.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Ah, my girls, so good to be back together again.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Come on.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Honestly the highlight of my life doing that Life on
Cut podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Do you mean the live tour or just the podcast?
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Just coming on for one chat when we were hungover
as how in the studio using a soccer as a god.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
We absolutely were. It was like the night after a
big show. We say at the big show, like we're ravers.
We just did a podcast show. It's not like we
went out right.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
It was incredible, using our phones for the camera incurd.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes, look that was back when we were budget. We've
really moved up in the world.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
We never do. We got lighting.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So have you?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You have some big, exciting things happening in your life
at the moment you've moved. You also have new heir.
But more importantly than that, you have a new single that.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Is out now.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It's called love Life, which the lyrics of this very
sentimental why like, what was the reasoning behind it?
Speaker 5 (14:15):
It's been a crazy year and I am trying to
focus on the joy in my life, because I have
a tendency to get quite negative when I talk about
my career because a lot of just bs has happened.
But being independent, moving to a new country, finding myself
there and really trying to hold onto the joy in
my life instead of focusing on everything that has gone
(14:37):
wrong has been a real struggle for me. And so
I just thought of love life, because I want to
love life and I want to find a way to
be able to do that. And also I just thought like,
it's not about my love life, it's about how to
love life. And when I thought of that, I pat
of myself on the back and I said, you claver basted.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Well, there have been some big changes, as you just
mentioned though, moved to London and you've gone independence. So
it's a really big thing for an artist to go independent.
How has that transition being and what's it look like?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
It was really scary at first.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I think going from any kind of major label system
with a full team.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
With full budget, really that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
It's so so expensive to be an independent artist, and
you really have to be intentional as ever with every decision,
and there's nothing that can be throwaway. I have a
totally new team and they're all in London and they're
all so supportive and very communicative across absolutely everything, which
I wasn't in the past, and that's what has kind
(15:38):
of screwed me over.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Do you think you can become a bit of a
number when you're with like a big agency one hundred percent?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
And like when this city was going crazy, I was
number one.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You were the person.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I was the person keep the lights on the building. Yeah,
And then you know, in.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
A perfect world, had I had kind of the proper
advice been given to me at the time, I would
have put my album out when this city was massive
instead of four years later. But that is what it is,
and focusing on the future, being able to be independent,
to have total creative control is scarier than anything because
every decision comes back on me and my team is amazing.
(16:14):
But at the end of the day, the captain of
the ship is the you know, the one that stays
in the boat to go down. And that's the analogy,
right guys, that's the same. Yeah, it is the captain
goes down with the ship.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It does go down. Yeah, great, is what It's a
positive or negative. Now I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
You know, as in like, I have so much pride
in the boat that you will see that I'm on
you know what, I'm building this boat by myself and
if it well with the village exactly, if that's really what.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
It is, if it sinks, I will be sinking it. Yes.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
But honestly, like, being independent is really cool. I think
there are so many sick independent artists. Bad Bunny is independent.
Raise independent.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
You've also seen though, I mean, like we've talked about
it before, but TikTok has changed the way that music
is pushed out and the way that people engage with me.
And I think so much of like what you are
doing and what has been created, Like you were very
smart with how you use TikTok to push that vehicle.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Thank you and so much. Well you're so they often
don't think, no, you are.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And it's what happened to you with this city, which
is crazy that that was seven years ago, but now
over the past seven years only twenty one. You're a baby.
You look it too. Yeah, First, last.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Night, it's funny what you just said. Actually, Sam, you
just if anyone noticed, you just actually got so excited
and frothed. When Laura gave you a compliment like you're
so smart, you stopped down and you were like, wow,
thank you. And then there is a quote You're.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Coming from a social genius, like both of you, you're
so good.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I'm just one.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's not like so so not true true. I've got
a quote from you here where you said I think
I'm guilty as hell at looking for external validation, and
you genuinely just did that with Laura.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Talk to us still doing it, you talk to.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Us more about that. In relation to love life.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I think it's so easy in this kind of day
and age to be focused on the likes and the
views and the numbers of it all. There have been
times when I've posted a song being so excited about
it and it doesn't get the reaction that I thought
it would, and then I get turned off the song,
and that sucks because I know how excited I am
about these songs, and I think I've had to rewire
(18:20):
my brain to focus on the art and just be
proud of myself that I'm making this kind of music.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
And that's what this song is kind of about.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
It's kind of you know, it's a confession it's my music, Like,
let's be real, it's always a confession, but it's more like, hey,
this is the way that I've been and this is
how I'm going to be going forward, because life is
too short to be worried about numbers and you know, shait.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Comments, but you say this about songs.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But I think people show up like this on social
media all the time in different ways. Like people might
post something that they've created or spent time doing and
then it gets no engagement, and then there's this feeling
of like I'm in a delete it because it's not
good enough.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I know that that is like such a minute comparison,
but I think we have built a society where so
we are kind of pushed to get our validation externally,
not within the people or the things that we do
or what we like.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
It's a hard game to fall into, and it is
the way that kind of the world is going right
now with social media and everything. And I think being
on the label and having the pressure of like, you
need to get five thousand pre saves on a song,
and then once you get to five thousand, they're like, Okay,
let's push for twenty thousand, and then you get to
twenty thousand, you push for fifty thousand, and if you
don't get to fifty thousand, then the label's like, oh,
(19:27):
maybe this isn't going to work, and you're like, well,
I hit all these other goals. So it was always goalpost,
being pushed and pushed and pushed. And now I'm celebrating
the little wins. And I'm just excited to get music out.
And this year I'm putting out so much music. There's
going to be consistent releases. As soon as this song
comes out day after, I get ready for me to
tease a new song. Yeah, and I have collapse and
(19:48):
I have tours coming. I'm opening for Brett Young in May.
That's so excited. It's so sick. He's the homie. We're
playing two nights at the Mr.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Brett Young is like superstar International, superstar Country.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
The first show was already sold out, second show, steal
some tickets to.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Go, steal some tickets left. It's going quick.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
But what's so cool is when I was eighteen, I
worked the Barrett in my theater, and when my parents split,
my mum moved to down the road from the theater,
and I always used to walk past and just wish
that one day I could play in this theater. And
so it's going to be a sick hometown show homecoming
kind of check boke.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's a grateful circle moment. Like pulling beers.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
There exactly how I would be the one people.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Are getting drunk too. Yeah, now you can buy the beers.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I've seen a couple of songs.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I have a question for you in terms of like
some of the songs and the lyrics that you write, Like,
obviously they're very personal. Even when you talk about them,
it's kind of like it's a personal discovery or.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Like a little bit of a diary entry.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
How does your wife feel, who's also a musician, when
she hears some of the vulnerable parts of songs, like
it does it bring you guys together? Do you talk
about it? Like how does that conversation fold out?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I mean Aaron has been with me this whole journey,
so she knows everything, and she's seen everything go down,
and there's been a lot of stuff that the public
doesn't know that's happened behind the scenes, which was devastating.
I mean, to be totally transparent. The reason we left
LA was because I discovered that I had no money,
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and I was trying to figure out where that money
had gone. And I realized that there was some bad
faith actors messing about. And so we went through having
to sell everything, pack up our little car and drive
to Virginia and we were in her mum's place for
a year and a half, living in, yeah, my mother
in law's basement.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And so crazy when you look at from objectively your
success and what's happening online and what you've created, who
you've collabed with, you download your streams, like it seems unfathomable.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean, even I love you, please don't hate me.
On Spotify owners had nearly a billion streams. But you know, Sam,
it doesn't sound like that is that uncommon. I remember
when I was in a jungle with Frankie Munaz different
he was acting, but he still people in his life
had like stolen so much money from him without him
knowing as well. Like it seems like it's something that's
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sort of you have to be really careful about.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
You absolutely do.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
And I think I put too much faith in the
people who I was supposed to And that's the thing
as artists, as creatives, like we are as good as
the people we the village we have around us, and
it sucks that it's not a unique story and that
it's happened to so many and you never think it's
going to happen to you until it does, until you
wake up and your credit card gets to claim you
(22:34):
can't pay rent and a move across country and live
with your mother in law in Virginia for a year.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And a half.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Highlight.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Yeah, yes, we did it. We made it.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Oh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
It's okay, honestly, character building and I have an amazing
team now and I've rebuilt and moved to London and
you know, I'm still building financially, and it's funny. The
perception of me, I feel like, is that I'm well
off because I've had this big hit and I've collaborate
with amazing, massive celebrities and whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
But it's just not the case.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
And I think artists in general, we don't right now,
in this climate, with the way that Spotify and all
that pay us, we don't really make that much money
from our music unless you own your masters.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Well, Lily Allen just was recently saying she makes more
money on a foot only fans she does from her music.
So yeah, that's what you need to do.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
No one wants to see my fate. But that way,
they're great feet. But I'm not going to start.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Maybe if we go a bit further up, you'll do.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You know what I made?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Okay, two or three inches will get me a long way.
But but yeah, no, I mean, like, who was it?
Was it Kate Nash who was talking about the way
she funds her tours on only Fans. Wow, And it's
like this is a legend of the game, Like it's crazy.
What are we talking about here? And it's just yeah. So,
(23:50):
like I said before, like every decision I'm making now
I am stoked about and I am regardless of what
people say online. I'm thrilled to be putting up and
doing it on my own terms. And you know, like
hopefully some brands want to get behind it.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
You know what I'm saying, Well, I mean, it's very
unfortunate that you are missing one of the biggest events
of the year this year, my wedding, But we're only
I'm only allowing it because you've got I don't want
to say bigger and better, you've got a different opportunity.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Elsewhere in London.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
But how's London going for you?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
London has been amazing. It has been such a game changer.
I think it's a little more like Australia. It feels
a little more like home. We've been there for about
eight months. I've been going to London for a long time,
but to live there and have pub culture back. We
have an amazing just group of friends. And you know,
my friend's Steph who I did make gap you with
(24:42):
when I was eighteen in the South of England. We
have remained best mates. We're only twenty one, so like
you know, I've only been a couple of years. And
you know, and your friends with someone who makes you
feel good about yourself that you're friends with them, You're
like you chose me, which makes me a good person.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
There's that external validation.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Ye know, I mean, but it makes me feel good inside.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
We're working on I thought we'd.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Worked being psychoanalyzed my goodness, but yeah, no, it's been sick.
We have this amazing group of friends. No one's in
music and that is such a difference from La.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Who's your dream person? If you could go and perform
or go onto her and support somebody who is it
let's manifest it.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I mean Ed cheering Ed Sharon.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Taylor Swiff would also do Wonders too, you know, like
if you got a pick.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Just came out of nowhere all of a sudden, like.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Oh man, but she's been hustling behind the scenes. Yea,
he's been doing any thing, but Taylor put her on
the map. Ed would be sick. But you know, I
want to sing with my childhood heroes, like that was
a good room and I got to sing with guys
Sebastian and that was the best. And we're going to
be I don't know if this is out yet, but
(25:49):
it is now. We're going to be playing a show
together in June and in London, which can be sick.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Guy, is that what you're doing instead of my wedding?
Your guy?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Oh great, just gets worse, like not no, but also yeah, well, Sam,
I'm so glad you're thriving overseas. I'm so glad you're
doing your own independently. Personally, I want a campaign to
get you back to Australia. I want to see you
hosting one of our Australian TV music show one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You would be so good for it.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
We should do it together? Are you kidding me? All
three of us? Now?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I don't know. Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Need to be one here. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
But there I have a husband that's not my career period.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Thank you, and it's a team.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
If you guys haven't heard Love Life, please go and
listen to it. Go and download Sim's albums. Let's support
these local industritists. But I hope that we see you
again on another lifel cut tour as well, and congratulations
and everything.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
I love you guys. I will come back every time.
I love you.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So Lola, I've spoken about her a lot lately. She's
my four year old, she's my youngest. She is amazing
love she. I did call her the personality higher the
family because she is a funny, funny kid, but she
has her quirks right, Like she's four years old. We
only just got her off the dummy so last week
we were talking about dummy fairies. Just recently we got
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her out of night nappies, which you know, for a
four year old kid is like a good achievement. Loads
if four year olds are still in night nappies and
the justification you don't need to throw that before, because
I feel like people who don't have kids probably don't
know what age is normal to still be in night nappies.
But kids give me in night nappies until they're still
in school, you know, like kids still wet the bed.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I think I were the bed. I think I was
still thirteen once. Maybe I remember being fifteen or wedding
the bed. Yeah, I did age myself down. I think
I was a bit older.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I remember waking my mom up because I didn't know
what to do, and she was like, you're fifteen, get
out of my bedroom.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Go sort it out.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
If you're old enough she doing.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Your bed, come get meng humiliated for me.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
No, look, we're onto the next phase of the Lola.
I don't even know what we call this. I called
it the Lola take down. I got told not to
call it that.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So rebrand. Yeah, on the Lola rebrand, we're not.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Rebreathing or either we're not canceling at taking it down
or rebranding her. Let's just call it the Lola derby.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Okay, So the next part of the Lola rebrand derby
is that Lola still sleeps in our bed every night.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And when I say our bed.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I actually mean my bed, because she takes up so
much space in the queen bed that when she gets
in bed, she mat my husband he leaves and he
goes and sleeps in the spare room, or he goes
and sleeps in her bed.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So I no longer share a bed with my husband.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
The problem with getting her off the dummy is that
now her wake ups have gotten a bit earlier, and
she doesn't have that thing that settles her in the nighttime.
So eleven o'clock she's making her way to our bedroom.
So I put her to bed of a nighttime and
I give a look, kiss good night.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
This is how cocky she's gotten.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I kiss her and I say good night, sweet, I
see you in the morning, and she goes, I'll see
you sooner than that. And that's how we go to
bed almost every night, almost to.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Be chucky stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yes, that scared me a little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Sweet and sofa, what it's giving, I find you one hundred.
It's giving that vibe.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
She's got very good comedic timing, so much so though
that sometimes it's a bit pointed and a bit hurtful.
So this morning I was downstairs in the kitchen she
got up really early with me. I was getting ready
for work and she was awake. It was like five
forty and Matt came downstairs and he'd been sleeping in
the spare bedroom last night because it was maybe ten
o'clock when she came and got into our bed. So
Matt didn't even bother coming to bed with me last night.
(29:09):
He was just like, I'll just go sep in this
bed room.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And I said to him, I was like, oh, honey,
I really missed you last night.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
He's been away for the weekend as well, so I
was looking forward to sharing.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
A bed with my husband, if you know what I mean. Yeah, well,
none of that that.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I was like, I really missed you last night, and
Lola pipes up.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I didn't miss you. I had a lovely cutter with mummy.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Did you know what?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
That's not formedic timing. She's just being.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Honest, that's the truth. I don't think she's trying to
be funny.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
She's Yeah, Matt didn't find it funny at all. He
found it really hurtful.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You know why, because she's she frothed it.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
He just went away for a month to the jungle
for I'm a celebrity amount of here. She owns that bed.
Now she owns you.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, she owns me.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
She owned you owned under her thumb, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
So this is it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I don't know what I'm after, but I do need
to find a way of getting her out of the
bed because everything we've tried has just ended in screaming.
And the problem is that she shares a bedroom with
her older sister, So she's screaming in the middle of
the night, crying because she wants to be in bed
with me. She's just gonna wake her older sister up anyway.
And then I got two kids in the bed with me.
So it's a real problem, real pickle I find myself in.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It's a good contraception for you, isn't it? No what
it is because you can't get anything done, It's true.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
But if we are going to have a third we
need to figure out getting her out of the bed
because there will be another baby that. Yeah, it's just
there's a lot, there's a lot of vis I told
her a little recently and I said, how would you
feel if mummy has another baby? And she said, You're
not having a baby because I'm the baby hah. And
I was like, is she a little evil concern.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
She's great, she's good value.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Okay, yeah, you've actually left me a little bit done here.
It's Ask on Cut Day. We do this every week
on our podcast Life on Cut, where you writing or
you call up with your problems and predicaments and conundrums
and we do our best to answer them. And today
on the phone we have Rachel. Rachel, what's going on
in your life?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Guys, I have a partner. It's still failing you. It's
been about four months, but we've known each other for
a long time and I've just found out that I've
been given a job opportunity that I have to move
overseas and I need to tell him.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Does he know that you're going for a job opportunity?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Like? Is this going to be as a full surprise
or does he know that it's a possibility.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
He's got absolutely no idea.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And what do you want? Do you want to stay
together with him in a proper relationship? Do you want
to break up? Do you want to be casual? Like?
What are you hoping to get from it?
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I think I sort of thought casual would be best,
but we obviously didn't really anticipate the feelings to be
as strong as they are. So we're kind of in that.
You know that if I wasn't leaving, obviously it would
probably be a more serious relationship. But my contract is
for four years.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Do you think it's feasible to do long distance or
is it not a job that's like feasible because in
like you won't be contactable or you.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Look, it's definitely a hard one to keep in contacts.
So oh yeah, bit of a job.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
This is what I think my film say, Ben and I,
the reason we are together is because of something that
literally you just said a word for word. You just
said we would date like we would date if we
were here in the same country. I met my fiance
for three days he lived in another country. We literally said,
out loud, damn it, if you were here, if you
lived here, we'd be perfect and we'd date. And that
(32:30):
was the reason we ended up being together because we
were like, do you know what, if somebody is that
right for you, you will work it out. If it's like
under whatever circumstances doesn't mean it's easy. If you actually
think that this person could be your person and you
want to try, then I would be really upfront and
honest about it. But if you actually don't care that
much and you're just looking for some casual for now,
I think you're overthinking it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I disagree slightly.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
And the only thing is is I know that you
have experience in this, Bret, but you can call Ben
your partner whenever you want, you faced every day. I mean,
Rachel could be going to the Moon for all we
know and be uncontactable for.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Seven Astronauts have relationship too, if everyone can.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I doubt there's many astronauts out there who also do
long distance at the same time if.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
They're in space.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
The lost Yeah, that was such a don't take Laura's advice.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
What I mean by that is long distance when they're
in the country. This is four years where you can't
come back, Is that correct? Or you can come back
in between?
Speaker 6 (33:26):
I can't come back.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
So that we can't come back from where space.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I feel like there's a lot of secrecy going on
and maybe we're not allowed to know.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I'm just but that's okay. We don't we need to
pry into it.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But I understand if you can't come back for four years,
that makes the potential of long distance incredible. You can
barely go four months without seeing Ben and you start
having a meltdown.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, but I don't I think we're reading too much
into it. I don't think she's actually a spy that
is going away for four years total.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yes, I don't know that's what Rachel saying. She can't
come home for four years.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I know, can't come home to Australia, but are you
coming home to like a home but it's just overseas
or you're saying you can't come and physically is it
impossible for you to see this person for four years?
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Oh then no, it's over.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Sorry, no four years.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I thought you just meant you had you couldn't come
back to Australia for four years. And then I was like,
well cool, if it's meant to work, he can go
with you. But if you're disappearing, God, I want to
know what your.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Job is you, Rachel. I'm so sorry. I was trying
to do it softly. And then when brit actually got the.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Fact, she's like, you just need to rip the ad off.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
You know, when do you leave?
Speaker 6 (34:28):
So I find out my exact date in two weeks?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Oh okay, I don't even.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Have the exact date yet. But you know, I'm like,
I'm really leaving it till the last minute, which is
not great.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
No, that's not fair on either of you, and it's
not fair on him because if you leave it too late,
it doesn't give you a chance to actually have those
conversations and work it out and leave on good terms.
Like I think you really need to do the right
thing with both of you and tell him it's happening.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
You just leave him wanting more and then you come
back in four years be like, hey, how long is
it to long between when you can like disappear and
then show back up.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Four years too long?
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Four years?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I think you need to date another spy. That's the
only way you're gonna get We know you're a spy.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
That's what a spy would say. Good luck with this.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It does sound like you're in a bit of a pickle,
but good luck and good luck with the next four years.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
Yeah, no, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Now there is a couple, well actually not a couple yet,
but we'll wait and see that everyone is talking about
at the moment, and that is because Sydney Sweeney has
recently just separated from her fiance and she has been
seen Dune Dundune with Glenn Powells. Now Glenn is the
guy who was in that. What was the movie called
that they did together? Anyone but you co star? Did
(35:48):
you see the movie? I love the movie?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
No, I Love has the Worst.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Go On to Britney is all about the actings of
the two of them, and I loved the lame rom
com that they they were in. I loved the little
bit of drama that happened at the time around like
are they or aren't they getting together? But the thing is,
so she's just now become single. She's left her fiance,
which there was lots of speculations ever since the show
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that she had fallen out of love with him and
kind of had this you know, fancy she wanted to
be with Glenn Powell.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
They've now been seen.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Together and spent time together just after their separation, and
everyone is in overdrive and very excited about what the
potential could be with them being together.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well, let's just.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Step it back a bit wind about she went to
Glenn's sister's wedding, who she's friends with. She's been friends
with him for years. She said she RSVP'd a long
time ago as a friend. She was still with her fiance.
She was invited on her own. She wasn't invited as
Glenn's date. But now that they both seem to be single,
they are I think leaning into the same narrative again.
(36:53):
I think it was well. I mean, they said originally
their chemistry was all pr they leant into the fact
for the movie. They said it.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
They she kind of said it.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
She had a fiance Beyonce, but she admitted what a
lot of Hollywood people don't admit. She's like, this is
what you do to promote a movie. You lean into
the chemistry. It was a choice. She's like, my fiance
was a director on the movie. He was with me
the whole time. He literally watched the whole thing. He
knows what it is. It was very trusting. But you
as actors, they are pushed to drum up the publicity,
(37:23):
which they did. Sorry, that movie wasn't winning any Oscars.
It was only consumed so much because people wanted to
see if their real life chemistry was going to be
on the screen.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Well, I do think the interesting part is is that
we seem to make allowances because the general consensus around
cheating is that it's horrible we hate cheaters. Every time
we get questions into our podcast Life on Cut around cheating.
It makes people so mad and people get so angry
about it, which I understand because if you've ever been
cheated on, it's absolutely horrible. But why is it with
some of these Hollywood relationships When we ship the fictional
(37:55):
characters on screen so.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Much, we seem to be kind of.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
More forgiving with their romance, like the potential of them
leaving their partners and there ending up together than what
we would in other situations. And I think of people
like Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper on A Star Was Born.
I also think about Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie or
Mister and Missus Smith. I know that there was some
controversy around it at the time, but people weren't angry
(38:19):
for their partners. People just wanted to see them together
because they loved the chemistry of this on screen couple.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It's not just because we love the chemistries, because we
don't look at these people like their real people. We
don't look at them like their real life people with
real lives. We don't look at them that they go
home to the partners and cooked dinner and walk the
dog and pick up dog poo, and they're not real.
It's a fantasy. We romanticize Hollywood. We romanticize their life
and who they are and the impact it has on
other people. So we just look at it like, oh,
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these are two hot people that we vibed their characters
in the movie. We want to see them together in
real life. That's just a story arc for us, and
we don't actually understand that at the end of the day,
these are normal people that go home to their lives
and their partners. And that that's why I think we
make allowances for quote unquote famous people to have these mishaps.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Should we say, yeah, mishaps cheating affairs, but let's call it.
You know, when you hear a story about a you know,
a famous person who's like, you know, ended up with
the bloody nanny or something like, everyone's outraged, you know,
I mean everyone is outraged normal quote unquot yah like
Ben Affleck. Didn't he have an affair with the nanny
allegedly allegedly?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I think he did.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Ben Affleck's alleged affair with the nanny that was the
reason why him and Jana separated. Arnold Swarzenegger nanny not
alleged had a baby confirmed. We all get really angry
about these types of situations, this type of cheating, But
when it's an on screen couple that we have absolutely
shipped the chemistry of we seem to have a lot
more allowance for it. And if anything, there's people online
(39:48):
who are like excited by it and like rallying for
them to be together. How does find the whole thing fascinating? Anyways,
I reckon they're going to end up together.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I do it won't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Watch this space and will think it's a PRS done
and I'll be like ready to.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
You know, send flowers to their wedding.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I have spoken to quite a few people in the
acting world who have confirmed just how much these fake
romance has happen. That's what I will say. I know
some people that I will not say.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Can we get them on and change their voice?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Absolutely not. I wish I could say it was some
a very big person in Hollywood that was going through
a bit of a bad boy image and their publicist
called and said, hey, we need him to get his
image back on track. We're just looking for a super
wholesome relationship. They can be together for a couple of months,
just you know, she'll be really good for his image.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I always think with all the time, I always thinking
about Taylor Swift and Harry Styles were so short lived.
They had that beautiful little pr photo out walking down
the park hat and then.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
It was over.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Anyway, whatever it means nothing, I'm spreading rumors.
This episode was recorded on camaagle Land.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life
on Cut.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and this is our.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Radio show, The Pickup, where we package up all the
best bits from the week.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And we bring it here for you to listen to.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
We did have a really fun week. Actually we had
Sam Fisher in the studio with this. I love Sam.
If you came to any of our Life Uncut Live
shows when we toured around Australia, he was I shouldn't
say our support act. He's so much bigger than us,
but he was our support act. He opened the show.
He's the singer of this sit has gone O Bregmah, don't.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Butcher his beautiful songs brute Well.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I just wanted people to know, just like how big
we're talking.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We adore him. But he also has a brand new
single coming out. And also, I mean, I love this
conversation because he has just recently gone independent, so he's
left his big music label that he was a part of,
and he talks about the I guess, like the industry,
but also just how hard it is when you were
signed a huge label deal and like the things that
you have to go through because I do think that
(01:05):
there's this kind of expectation that if you have this
massive hit, then it must equate to money. And you know,
Sam's been definitely through some challenging times, and he was
talking very vulnerably about how you can have a huge
hit like this City that's listened to and streamed billions
of times and actually make no money from it.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's sly exaggeration or quite billions of millions and millions
of time, but like, yeah, his music has been streamed
nearly a billion times for sure, But that was really
fascinating how vulnerable he was.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Insane.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's such a common misconception to think that every single
hit artist is loaded, like he ends up moving back
in with his in laws and stuff. And we've spoken
about in the past, who like Lily Allen when she
came out recently and said that she makes more money
on her feet only fans than she does from some
of her music, which is absolutely insane. And that's because
(01:54):
depending on like when people sign and who they signed to.
If you're a small dog when you sign and then
you make it big, it doesn't matter. You've been locked
into whatever you were when you saw it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, it's not just that, it's also how much money
was contributed to the pr and promotion. So you end
up with, yes, a hit, but a huge debt that
you have to pay back yeah to the music labels.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's really fascinating.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So he goes into all that and also his new
song also something that I shared on the show. So
like Lola, you guys probably know a little bit about this,
but we've kind of made such massive headways with her
over the last few weeks. The Dummy Fairy came and
it was exceptional, but now we are trying to work
through the fact that every night she sleeps in our bed,
and when I say our bed, it's kind of turned
into my bed because Matt now leaves our bed and
(02:36):
goes and sleeps in the spare room. So it's just
Lola and I and this has been something that's been
increasing since Matt was in the jungle.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Look, it's definitely.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
A tricky thing, and it's the next on the agenda
in working on the lolaisms in our life and.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
To get my life back on track.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I just yeah, I just want to feel like me again.
I want to sleep next to my husband. I get
that I want to say next to her husband as well. Anyway, guys,
let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, these old ducks. I shouldn't cause old ducks, but
I feel like it's been.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
A hot second since I've been to a concert. We
went to Duaiba on the weekend. Look at the disgust
on your face that I.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Said these old ducks.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, because I was like, speak for yourself. Also, I've
been to a few concerts recently. One of them does
make me feel old because it was Blink one eight two.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So, and I also say old ducks because I have realized,
probably in the last twelve months, I've been to a
few concerts, and I know you and I have discussed it, Laura,
but I realized I am at the point where I
don't want to be standing anymore, and that I think
comes from age. I want the comfort of a seat,
I want the option to be able to sit down.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
My back hurts, my fee I've definitely I've passed the
threshold because when I was younger, like when I was
in my twenties or I was eighteen nineteen, and I
was like a real either festival or.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Concert goer, raver.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I remember thinking this one I remember being at a
concert and thinking, who would ever buy a ticket as
an option to sit in the stand, Like, if you
had the ability to be in GA, and you could
be amongst it, in the vibrant moshpit, why would you
ever like want to voluntarily choose to sit in the stand.
Now you get it, and Okay, something's happened in the
last few years.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And I don't know when it did. I don't know
when it took over.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I think it was a moment last concert of two
when you jumped up and down and wet yourself. I
reckon that was the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It was my perfect floor that let me down. I
reckon it probably was, But no, so we did. Juliep
it very differently, britt you had a wonderful.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Very lush experience.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I was in a suite, yes, and I was with
my sister and we went GA, and like, I thought,
I'm going to get down there, I'm going to dance,
I'm gonna non stop enjoy myself, and I reckon, I
got about forty five minutes in and I was like, oh,
my perfect floor feels heavy, monees hurt, and I'd love
to sit down. And there's an eighteen year old smack
into my back who's had too many like tequila shots, so.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Like it's a different vibe. Now, it's a different experience. Well,
I wanted to talk.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
About something else. I didn't want to rub it into
you that I was seated. I'll stop it. With the
toilet available to me and I didn't have to wet
my pants.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Unrelatable for everybody who had to get GA.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I felt very lucky, Yes, but I want to talk
about something else, something I realized in the moment that
I'm over and I don't want to happen at concerts anymore,
the humble or not so humble encore, the idea of
an encore, I'm done with it. Just sing your song.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Just sing your songs. Don't pretend to sneak away so
that we call you back. We don't want to, like
I don't want a chance. We will just do your songs, Belise.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I do just think it's one of those outdated things
that people or artists maybe just think has to happen.
Like you know, when you go to a wedding, there's
things you need to tick a box off, Like when
you're holding a wedding, you need to do the speeches,
you need to do the cake, you need to do
the bowels.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I think artists, not that I have and one or
will ever be one, but I think that they used
to think that that was how a concert needed to go.
You had to go off and pretend. Then you had
to be called back on and be like, Okay, I'll
pretend to sing.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Obviously, because once upon a time it had a point,
Like once upon a time, people would leave and the
concept would be finished, and people would scream for them
to come back, and they'd scream and chant, chant, chant,
and then eventually the artist would be like, oh my god,
stop fair you guys love me so much.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I'm back.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
The problem is now is that the encore is written
into the set list. Yes, and with Jewel Leaper my
only gripe, like my only because the concert was amazing
and she's like the hottest thing that's ever graced the planet.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But she can also king. Literally the entire time, I
was like, look at her, she's so hot.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
The best song, like my favorite song that she sings
was in the encore, so I was like, you plan this, Yep, that.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Was intentional because she knows people like you want to
leave early, so I just with the masses, but.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You also know that an oncre is coming. And the
absolute telltale sign of this is that the lights don't
go back on, so they.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Say bye everyone bye, and then.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
They walk off and it stays pitch black, so you
can't leave in if you wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
And also all their musicians are still gearing up. The
drumm's still twirling the drum sticks in his fingers, like
you know they're about to crack on.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But I would appreciate it so much more if they
caught us.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Betest bade just like sing it, pump it out, and
then at the end you're like, thank you, I'm properly
going now, thank you for your time.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I went to a Food Fighters concert forever ago and
Dave Grohl is notorious for not doing cheating.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I mean, sorry what sorry, continued please, I was a
slipper of the tongue for.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Not doing encores. He's like, we don't do them. We
have our set list. People know what they're getting. Just
cheer and you know that the last song's coming, so
cheer that it's the last song.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
How long do you think after he walked off that
people realized you were serious, like how long do you
think people?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
No, you know, so he literally was like at the concert,
he said, he said, I don't do on course.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You're not getting an on care.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
This is the last song and it was, and to
be fair, like the lights came on. There was quite
a few people that stayed and cheered, but then nothing
happened and we all left.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So people were like, he'll be back.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I was like, good on him, Good on him for
sticking to his guns and staying true to like you
don't believe systems at all.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
One concert that I went to, I can't remember who,
but it was only in the last two years, and
I remember.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Being like, oh that, like they fooled me.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
They were like bye, thank you for coming, and I
was like it's over, let's go. I don't think they're
coming back, and I left to beat everyone. And then
as I was like leaving the concert walking to the train,
I heard them come back on and I was like, god,
damn it. I was like, I missed it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's why I made the feeling dirty about that, aren't
you I really am.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I haven't moved on anyway. Goodbye to the encore. If
you are any huge artist listening right now?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Great?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Actually, everyone everyone likes ice cream, right, It's just like
a universally known thing.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I will order it to my house most nights of
the week. I don't even go get it. I'm that lazy.
It gets delivered. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Are there any flavors you won't do?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Though?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Licorice, hate it?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Liquor Who who even makes liquorice ice cream?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I don't know. I do love the humble vanilla.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I'm a bit against pistachio. I've always can't really do it.
I feel like it's a waste of an ice cream flavor.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Where's this going? Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Look, I would say that most things I will try,
Like most ice creams, I'm here to give it a go.
Like you know, I think ninety even some of the wacky,
weird ones.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Are pretty delicious.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
There is a new ice cream flavor out there that
Australians will be able to try in exactly nine months,
and I don't know if we're going to feel the
same about this one.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Have a listen to this.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
So we're creating a frozen treat that satisfies your late
nate creamings and fuels your body the way that brass
milk and formula fuela beeties sweet, nutty, a little salty,
and swirled with rich, creamy fat.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
You've tried the rest, now try the breast.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay, I love this, stop it you don't like. This
company is called Freeda. They're a company that's known for
creating it's like, quite innovative, but often very provocative and
controversial products for.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Mothers and babies.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They have announced that they are bringing out a breast
milk flavored ice cream.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I have two questions here.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Is it made with breast milk or is it just
breast milk flavored, because that's two different things.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Okay, I understand that you brought this, but I've obviously
read more about it. No, it's not paid. It's not
made with breast milk. It's breast milk flavored. And I
think that this is a brilliant idea brilliant marketing. All
this is is marketing. It's coming in nine months, which
I think is so funny. They've advertised it now and said, hey,
it'll be out in nine months, but they've said it's
going to taste like it and be filled with the
(09:46):
same kind of nutrients, So the saying is going to
be sweet creamy nutrient pact. It's going to have all
the like Amiga threes and the carbs and everything that
you would get in breast milk. But it's not breast milk.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, the question is whose breast is it made from?
Because if it's cawer milk, it's still technically breast milk.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Right, Well, this is the problem. Right we drink milk
from a cow's titty. What's the difference? What is the difference?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
The difference is, go on, what is it that I'm
not having an adult suckle my breast to get some
cow milk? Actually, I'm not gonna suckle a cow's either
ordering ice cream and they're not.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Getting you turned up at the door and saying you
have a suckle. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I think the thing is that because you can buy
it from the supermarket, it feels so removed from the sauce.
And maybe because I've actually breast fed a child, or
they feel something quite different about like an adult human
drinking that.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I know that it's a weird concept when you think
about the fact that once upon a time someone stood
out in a feel and thought, I'm gonna milk that
drink it, make.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It out cheese out of it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I can't get my head around the flavor because I
actually think it probably would be quite nice. But thank
god it's not actually made out of breast milk, because
I think that there would be a whole lot of
problems attached to that.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, funny you say that. In twenty eleven there was
an ice cream store in London called Great Name, Baby
Gaga that was the name, and they were making ice
cream with donated breast milk, so it was real breast milk,
but they got shut down for safety concerns, which is
also fair. Like if you don't know where that's.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Coming from, is it unpasteurized? Who knows. I've tried breast milk.
I tried my own. I would think that's normal. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's very very sweet, and I guess like for me,
it probably would have been nice if it was cold.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I don't really like warm milk, so that was weird.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It comes out body temperature obviously, so it's not quite
hot milk.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I picture it like the consistency, and I know it's
not the flavor. When I think of it, I think
of it like condensed milk.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, no, no, it's just sweet, not like syrups sweet,
no snow.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's very watery, so it's like quite watery.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Also, it changes color, like sometimes it can be a
bluey color. Sometimes it can be really yellow gatorades. It
depends on what you've been eating, yes, but mine was
like kind of like more of a yellowy color and it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Was just really sweet. Do you what happened to me?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So I was like postpartum and I had had to
express to get my milk going.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I was still in hospital, and I.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Had a cup of tea and I'd expressed into a
takeaway cup.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So this was like early doors of Mali being born.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I'd expressed into a takeaway cup that was very similar
to the cup I had of tea, and I must
have just been still a bit out of my mind
and out of my wits because I just picked up
the wrong cup and took a full swig of what
I'd expressed into it, thinking.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It was the end of my tea.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It was an early introduction to breast milk.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Put it that way.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But people swear by that there are people that actually
use that for health benefits, the Kardashians, for example. When
I think it's Courtney. When she's feeling unwell, she would
drink a cup of breast milk because it's filled with
so many nutrients. And when you think about it, it's
keeping a baby alive. It is growing that single handedly
growing a human life.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
But that one's an interesting one because the thing is
is you're giving your antibodies to the baby. You've already
got them, so redrinking them I don't think is going
to help, you know. You know what I did though,
So apparently there's like lots of research in it that
it's like breast.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Milk is really good for your skin.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's really good if you have like skin rashes, if
you have any allergies or whatever. And yeah, there was
a while there where I was like, well, feed the
baby squirt a bit, use it like a tona And
I would just stick breast milk on my babe. In
Perry or Aldo I do I get Perry Old dom Titus,
And I was like, I'll try anything to get rid
of this, and it actually.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Was not bad.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
If I have another kid, I'll probably do it again.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Well, we have the man himself in the studio with
us today. Sam, You've been a friend of us for
so long. We've done many interviews with you. You even
came on our Life on Cut podcast tour with us
to every single show. We couldn't love you more. Welcome
to the pickup.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Ah, my girls, so good to be back together again.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Come on.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Honestly the highlight of my life doing that Life on
Cut podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Do you mean the live tour or just the podcast?
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Just coming on for one chat when we were hungover
as how in the studio using a soccer as a god.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
We absolutely were. It was like the night after a
big show. We say at the big show, like we're ravers.
We just did a podcast show. It's not like we
went out right.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
It was incredible, using our phones for the camera incurd.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes, look that was back when we were budget. We've
really moved up in the world.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
We never do. We got lighting.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So have you?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You have some big, exciting things happening in your life
at the moment you've moved. You also have new heir.
But more importantly than that, you have a new single that.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Is out now.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It's called love Life, which the lyrics of this very
sentimental why like, what was the reasoning behind it?
Speaker 5 (14:15):
It's been a crazy year and I am trying to
focus on the joy in my life, because I have
a tendency to get quite negative when I talk about
my career because a lot of just bs has happened.
But being independent, moving to a new country, finding myself
there and really trying to hold onto the joy in
my life instead of focusing on everything that has gone
(14:37):
wrong has been a real struggle for me. And so
I just thought of love life, because I want to
love life and I want to find a way to
be able to do that. And also I just thought like,
it's not about my love life, it's about how to
love life. And when I thought of that, I pat
of myself on the back and I said, you claver basted.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Well, there have been some big changes, as you just
mentioned though, moved to London and you've gone independence. So
it's a really big thing for an artist to go independent.
How has that transition being and what's it look like?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
It was really scary at first.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I think going from any kind of major label system
with a full team.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
With full budget, really that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
It's so so expensive to be an independent artist, and
you really have to be intentional as ever with every decision,
and there's nothing that can be throwaway. I have a
totally new team and they're all in London and they're
all so supportive and very communicative across absolutely everything, which
I wasn't in the past, and that's what has kind
(15:38):
of screwed me over.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Do you think you can become a bit of a
number when you're with like a big agency one hundred percent?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
And like when this city was going crazy, I was
number one.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You were the person.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I was the person keep the lights on the building. Yeah,
And then you know, in.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
A perfect world, had I had kind of the proper
advice been given to me at the time, I would
have put my album out when this city was massive
instead of four years later. But that is what it is,
and focusing on the future, being able to be independent,
to have total creative control is scarier than anything because
every decision comes back on me and my team is amazing.
(16:14):
But at the end of the day, the captain of
the ship is the you know, the one that stays
in the boat to go down. And that's the analogy,
right guys, that's the same. Yeah, it is the captain
goes down with the ship.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It does go down. Yeah, great, is what It's a
positive or negative. Now I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
You know, as in like, I have so much pride
in the boat that you will see that I'm on
you know what, I'm building this boat by myself and
if it well with the village exactly, if that's really what.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
It is, if it sinks, I will be sinking it. Yes.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
But honestly, like, being independent is really cool. I think
there are so many sick independent artists. Bad Bunny is independent.
Raise independent.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
You've also seen though, I mean, like we've talked about
it before, but TikTok has changed the way that music
is pushed out and the way that people engage with me.
And I think so much of like what you are
doing and what has been created, Like you were very
smart with how you use TikTok to push that vehicle.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Thank you and so much. Well you're so they often
don't think, no, you are.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And it's what happened to you with this city, which
is crazy that that was seven years ago, but now
over the past seven years only twenty one. You're a baby.
You look it too. Yeah, First, last.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Night, it's funny what you just said. Actually, Sam, you
just if anyone noticed, you just actually got so excited
and frothed. When Laura gave you a compliment like you're
so smart, you stopped down and you were like, wow,
thank you. And then there is a quote You're.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Coming from a social genius, like both of you, you're
so good.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I'm just one.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's not like so so not true true. I've got
a quote from you here where you said I think
I'm guilty as hell at looking for external validation, and
you genuinely just did that with Laura.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Talk to us still doing it, you talk to.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Us more about that. In relation to love life.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I think it's so easy in this kind of day
and age to be focused on the likes and the
views and the numbers of it all. There have been
times when I've posted a song being so excited about
it and it doesn't get the reaction that I thought
it would, and then I get turned off the song,
and that sucks because I know how excited I am
about these songs, and I think I've had to rewire
(18:20):
my brain to focus on the art and just be
proud of myself that I'm making this kind of music.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
And that's what this song is kind of about.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
It's kind of you know, it's a confession it's my music, Like,
let's be real, it's always a confession, but it's more like, hey,
this is the way that I've been and this is
how I'm going to be going forward, because life is
too short to be worried about numbers and you know, shait.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Comments, but you say this about songs.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But I think people show up like this on social
media all the time in different ways. Like people might
post something that they've created or spent time doing and
then it gets no engagement, and then there's this feeling
of like I'm in a delete it because it's not
good enough.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I know that that is like such a minute comparison,
but I think we have built a society where so
we are kind of pushed to get our validation externally,
not within the people or the things that we do
or what we like.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
It's a hard game to fall into, and it is
the way that kind of the world is going right
now with social media and everything. And I think being
on the label and having the pressure of like, you
need to get five thousand pre saves on a song,
and then once you get to five thousand, they're like, Okay,
let's push for twenty thousand, and then you get to
twenty thousand, you push for fifty thousand, and if you
don't get to fifty thousand, then the label's like, oh,
(19:27):
maybe this isn't going to work, and you're like, well,
I hit all these other goals. So it was always goalpost,
being pushed and pushed and pushed. And now I'm celebrating
the little wins. And I'm just excited to get music out.
And this year I'm putting out so much music. There's
going to be consistent releases. As soon as this song
comes out day after, I get ready for me to
tease a new song. Yeah, and I have collapse and
(19:48):
I have tours coming. I'm opening for Brett Young in May.
That's so excited. It's so sick. He's the homie. We're
playing two nights at the Mr.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Brett Young is like superstar International, superstar Country.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
The first show was already sold out, second show, steal
some tickets to.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Go, steal some tickets left. It's going quick.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
But what's so cool is when I was eighteen, I
worked the Barrett in my theater, and when my parents split,
my mum moved to down the road from the theater,
and I always used to walk past and just wish
that one day I could play in this theater. And
so it's going to be a sick hometown show homecoming
kind of check boke.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's a grateful circle moment. Like pulling beers.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
There exactly how I would be the one people.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Are getting drunk too. Yeah, now you can buy the beers.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I've seen a couple of songs.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I have a question for you in terms of like
some of the songs and the lyrics that you write, Like,
obviously they're very personal. Even when you talk about them,
it's kind of like it's a personal discovery or.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Like a little bit of a diary entry.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
How does your wife feel, who's also a musician, when
she hears some of the vulnerable parts of songs, like
it does it bring you guys together? Do you talk
about it? Like how does that conversation fold out?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I mean Aaron has been with me this whole journey,
so she knows everything, and she's seen everything go down,
and there's been a lot of stuff that the public
doesn't know that's happened behind the scenes, which was devastating.
I mean, to be totally transparent. The reason we left
LA was because I discovered that I had no money,
(21:19):
and I was trying to figure out where that money
had gone. And I realized that there was some bad
faith actors messing about. And so we went through having
to sell everything, pack up our little car and drive
to Virginia and we were in her mum's place for
a year and a half, living in, yeah, my mother
in law's basement.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And so crazy when you look at from objectively your
success and what's happening online and what you've created, who
you've collabed with, you download your streams, like it seems unfathomable.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean, even I love you, please don't hate me.
On Spotify owners had nearly a billion streams. But you know, Sam,
it doesn't sound like that is that uncommon. I remember
when I was in a jungle with Frankie Munaz different
he was acting, but he still people in his life
had like stolen so much money from him without him
knowing as well. Like it seems like it's something that's
(22:10):
sort of you have to be really careful about.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
You absolutely do.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
And I think I put too much faith in the
people who I was supposed to And that's the thing
as artists, as creatives, like we are as good as
the people we the village we have around us, and
it sucks that it's not a unique story and that
it's happened to so many and you never think it's
going to happen to you until it does, until you
wake up and your credit card gets to claim you
(22:34):
can't pay rent and a move across country and live
with your mother in law in Virginia for a year.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And a half.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Highlight.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Yeah, yes, we did it. We made it.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Oh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
It's okay, honestly, character building and I have an amazing
team now and I've rebuilt and moved to London and
you know, I'm still building financially, and it's funny. The
perception of me, I feel like, is that I'm well
off because I've had this big hit and I've collaborate
with amazing, massive celebrities and whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
But it's just not the case.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
And I think artists in general, we don't right now,
in this climate, with the way that Spotify and all
that pay us, we don't really make that much money
from our music unless you own your masters.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Well, Lily Allen just was recently saying she makes more
money on a foot only fans she does from her music.
So yeah, that's what you need to do.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
No one wants to see my fate. But that way,
they're great feet. But I'm not going to start.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Maybe if we go a bit further up, you'll do.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You know what I made?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Okay, two or three inches will get me a long way.
But but yeah, no, I mean, like, who was it?
Was it Kate Nash who was talking about the way
she funds her tours on only Fans. Wow, And it's
like this is a legend of the game, Like it's crazy.
What are we talking about here? And it's just yeah. So,
(23:50):
like I said before, like every decision I'm making now
I am stoked about and I am regardless of what
people say online. I'm thrilled to be putting up and
doing it on my own terms. And you know, like
hopefully some brands want to get behind it.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
You know what I'm saying, Well, I mean, it's very
unfortunate that you are missing one of the biggest events
of the year this year, my wedding, But we're only
I'm only allowing it because you've got I don't want
to say bigger and better, you've got a different opportunity.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Elsewhere in London.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
But how's London going for you?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
London has been amazing. It has been such a game changer.
I think it's a little more like Australia. It feels
a little more like home. We've been there for about
eight months. I've been going to London for a long time,
but to live there and have pub culture back. We
have an amazing just group of friends. And you know,
my friend's Steph who I did make gap you with
(24:42):
when I was eighteen in the South of England. We
have remained best mates. We're only twenty one, so like
you know, I've only been a couple of years. And
you know, and your friends with someone who makes you
feel good about yourself that you're friends with them, You're
like you chose me, which makes me a good person.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
There's that external validation.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Ye know, I mean, but it makes me feel good inside.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
We're working on I thought we'd.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Worked being psychoanalyzed my goodness, but yeah, no, it's been sick.
We have this amazing group of friends. No one's in
music and that is such a difference from La.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Who's your dream person? If you could go and perform
or go onto her and support somebody who is it
let's manifest it.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I mean Ed cheering Ed Sharon.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Taylor Swiff would also do Wonders too, you know, like
if you got a pick.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Just came out of nowhere all of a sudden, like.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Oh man, but she's been hustling behind the scenes. Yea,
he's been doing any thing, but Taylor put her on
the map. Ed would be sick. But you know, I
want to sing with my childhood heroes, like that was
a good room and I got to sing with guys
Sebastian and that was the best. And we're going to
be I don't know if this is out yet, but
(25:49):
it is now. We're going to be playing a show
together in June and in London, which can be sick.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Guy, is that what you're doing instead of my wedding?
Your guy?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Oh great, just gets worse, like not no, but also yeah, well, Sam,
I'm so glad you're thriving overseas. I'm so glad you're
doing your own independently. Personally, I want a campaign to
get you back to Australia. I want to see you
hosting one of our Australian TV music show one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You would be so good for it.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
We should do it together? Are you kidding me? All
three of us? Now?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I don't know. Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Need to be one here. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
But there I have a husband that's not my career period.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Thank you, and it's a team.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
If you guys haven't heard Love Life, please go and
listen to it. Go and download Sim's albums. Let's support
these local industritists. But I hope that we see you
again on another lifel cut tour as well, and congratulations
and everything.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
I love you guys. I will come back every time.
I love you.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So Lola, I've spoken about her a lot lately. She's
my four year old, she's my youngest. She is amazing
love she. I did call her the personality higher the
family because she is a funny, funny kid, but she
has her quirks right, Like she's four years old. We
only just got her off the dummy so last week
we were talking about dummy fairies. Just recently we got
(27:09):
her out of night nappies, which you know, for a
four year old kid is like a good achievement. Loads
if four year olds are still in night nappies and
the justification you don't need to throw that before, because
I feel like people who don't have kids probably don't
know what age is normal to still be in night nappies.
But kids give me in night nappies until they're still
in school, you know, like kids still wet the bed.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I think I were the bed. I think I was
still thirteen once. Maybe I remember being fifteen or wedding
the bed. Yeah, I did age myself down. I think
I was a bit older.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I remember waking my mom up because I didn't know
what to do, and she was like, you're fifteen, get
out of my bedroom.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Go sort it out.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
If you're old enough she doing.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Your bed, come get meng humiliated for me.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
No, look, we're onto the next phase of the Lola.
I don't even know what we call this. I called
it the Lola take down. I got told not to
call it that.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So rebrand. Yeah, on the Lola rebrand, we're not.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Rebreathing or either we're not canceling at taking it down
or rebranding her. Let's just call it the Lola derby.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Okay, So the next part of the Lola rebrand derby
is that Lola still sleeps in our bed every night.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And when I say our bed.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I actually mean my bed, because she takes up so
much space in the queen bed that when she gets
in bed, she mat my husband he leaves and he
goes and sleeps in the spare room, or he goes
and sleeps in her bed.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So I no longer share a bed with my husband.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
The problem with getting her off the dummy is that
now her wake ups have gotten a bit earlier, and
she doesn't have that thing that settles her in the nighttime.
So eleven o'clock she's making her way to our bedroom.
So I put her to bed of a nighttime and
I give a look, kiss good night.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
This is how cocky she's gotten.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I kiss her and I say good night, sweet, I
see you in the morning, and she goes, I'll see
you sooner than that. And that's how we go to
bed almost every night, almost to.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Be chucky stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yes, that scared me a little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Sweet and sofa, what it's giving, I find you one hundred.
It's giving that vibe.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
She's got very good comedic timing, so much so though
that sometimes it's a bit pointed and a bit hurtful.
So this morning I was downstairs in the kitchen she
got up really early with me. I was getting ready
for work and she was awake. It was like five
forty and Matt came downstairs and he'd been sleeping in
the spare bedroom last night because it was maybe ten
o'clock when she came and got into our bed. So
Matt didn't even bother coming to bed with me last night.
(29:09):
He was just like, I'll just go sep in this
bed room.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And I said to him, I was like, oh, honey,
I really missed you last night.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
He's been away for the weekend as well, so I
was looking forward to sharing.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
A bed with my husband, if you know what I mean. Yeah, well,
none of that that.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I was like, I really missed you last night, and
Lola pipes up.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I didn't miss you. I had a lovely cutter with mummy.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Did you know what?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
That's not formedic timing. She's just being.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Honest, that's the truth. I don't think she's trying to
be funny.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
She's Yeah, Matt didn't find it funny at all. He
found it really hurtful.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You know why, because she's she frothed it.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
He just went away for a month to the jungle
for I'm a celebrity amount of here. She owns that bed.
Now she owns you.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, she owns me.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
She owned you owned under her thumb, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
So this is it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I don't know what I'm after, but I do need
to find a way of getting her out of the
bed because everything we've tried has just ended in screaming.
And the problem is that she shares a bedroom with
her older sister, So she's screaming in the middle of
the night, crying because she wants to be in bed
with me. She's just gonna wake her older sister up anyway.
And then I got two kids in the bed with me.
So it's a real problem, real pickle I find myself in.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It's a good contraception for you, isn't it? No what
it is because you can't get anything done, It's true.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
But if we are going to have a third we
need to figure out getting her out of the bed
because there will be another baby that. Yeah, it's just
there's a lot, there's a lot of vis I told
her a little recently and I said, how would you
feel if mummy has another baby? And she said, You're
not having a baby because I'm the baby hah. And
I was like, is she a little evil concern.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
She's great, she's good value.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Okay, yeah, you've actually left me a little bit done here.
It's Ask on Cut Day. We do this every week
on our podcast Life on Cut, where you writing or
you call up with your problems and predicaments and conundrums
and we do our best to answer them. And today
on the phone we have Rachel. Rachel, what's going on
in your life?
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Guys, I have a partner. It's still failing you. It's
been about four months, but we've known each other for
a long time and I've just found out that I've
been given a job opportunity that I have to move
overseas and I need to tell him.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Does he know that you're going for a job opportunity?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Like? Is this going to be as a full surprise
or does he know that it's a possibility.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
He's got absolutely no idea.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And what do you want? Do you want to stay
together with him in a proper relationship? Do you want
to break up? Do you want to be casual? Like?
What are you hoping to get from it?
Speaker 6 (31:32):
I think I sort of thought casual would be best,
but we obviously didn't really anticipate the feelings to be
as strong as they are. So we're kind of in that.
You know that if I wasn't leaving, obviously it would
probably be a more serious relationship. But my contract is
for four years.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Do you think it's feasible to do long distance or
is it not a job that's like feasible because in
like you won't be contactable or you.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Look, it's definitely a hard one to keep in contacts.
So oh yeah, bit of a job.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
This is what I think my film say, Ben and I,
the reason we are together is because of something that
literally you just said a word for word. You just
said we would date like we would date if we
were here in the same country. I met my fiance
for three days he lived in another country. We literally said,
out loud, damn it, if you were here, if you
lived here, we'd be perfect and we'd date. And that
(32:30):
was the reason we ended up being together because we
were like, do you know what, if somebody is that
right for you, you will work it out. If it's like
under whatever circumstances doesn't mean it's easy. If you actually
think that this person could be your person and you
want to try, then I would be really upfront and
honest about it. But if you actually don't care that
much and you're just looking for some casual for now,
I think you're overthinking it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I disagree slightly.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
And the only thing is is I know that you
have experience in this, Bret, but you can call Ben
your partner whenever you want, you faced every day. I mean,
Rachel could be going to the Moon for all we
know and be uncontactable for.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Seven Astronauts have relationship too, if everyone can.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I doubt there's many astronauts out there who also do
long distance at the same time if.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
They're in space.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
The lost Yeah, that was such a don't take Laura's advice.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
What I mean by that is long distance when they're
in the country. This is four years where you can't
come back, Is that correct? Or you can come back
in between?
Speaker 6 (33:26):
I can't come back.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
So that we can't come back from where space.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I feel like there's a lot of secrecy going on
and maybe we're not allowed to know.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I'm just but that's okay. We don't we need to
pry into it.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But I understand if you can't come back for four years,
that makes the potential of long distance incredible. You can
barely go four months without seeing Ben and you start
having a meltdown.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, but I don't I think we're reading too much
into it. I don't think she's actually a spy that
is going away for four years total.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yes, I don't know that's what Rachel saying. She can't
come home for four years.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I know, can't come home to Australia, but are you
coming home to like a home but it's just overseas
or you're saying you can't come and physically is it
impossible for you to see this person for four years?
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Oh then no, it's over.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Sorry, no four years.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I thought you just meant you had you couldn't come
back to Australia for four years. And then I was like,
well cool, if it's meant to work, he can go
with you. But if you're disappearing, God, I want to
know what your.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Job is you, Rachel. I'm so sorry. I was trying
to do it softly. And then when brit actually got the.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Fact, she's like, you just need to rip the ad off.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
You know, when do you leave?
Speaker 6 (34:28):
So I find out my exact date in two weeks?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Oh okay, I don't even.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Have the exact date yet. But you know, I'm like,
I'm really leaving it till the last minute, which is
not great.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
No, that's not fair on either of you, and it's
not fair on him because if you leave it too late,
it doesn't give you a chance to actually have those
conversations and work it out and leave on good terms.
Like I think you really need to do the right
thing with both of you and tell him it's happening.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
You just leave him wanting more and then you come
back in four years be like, hey, how long is
it to long between when you can like disappear and
then show back up.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Four years too long?
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Four years?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I think you need to date another spy. That's the
only way you're gonna get We know you're a spy.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
That's what a spy would say. Good luck with this.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It does sound like you're in a bit of a pickle,
but good luck and good luck with the next four years.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
Yeah, no, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Now there is a couple, well actually not a couple yet,
but we'll wait and see that everyone is talking about
at the moment, and that is because Sydney Sweeney has
recently just separated from her fiance and she has been
seen Dune Dundune with Glenn Powells. Now Glenn is the
guy who was in that. What was the movie called
that they did together? Anyone but you co star? Did
(35:48):
you see the movie? I love the movie?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
No, I Love has the Worst.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Go On to Britney is all about the actings of
the two of them, and I loved the lame rom
com that they they were in. I loved the little
bit of drama that happened at the time around like
are they or aren't they getting together? But the thing is,
so she's just now become single. She's left her fiance,
which there was lots of speculations ever since the show
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that she had fallen out of love with him and
kind of had this you know, fancy she wanted to
be with Glenn Powell.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
They've now been seen.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Together and spent time together just after their separation, and
everyone is in overdrive and very excited about what the
potential could be with them being together.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well, let's just.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Step it back a bit wind about she went to
Glenn's sister's wedding, who she's friends with. She's been friends
with him for years. She said she RSVP'd a long
time ago as a friend. She was still with her fiance.
She was invited on her own. She wasn't invited as
Glenn's date. But now that they both seem to be single,
they are I think leaning into the same narrative again.
(36:53):
I think it was well. I mean, they said originally
their chemistry was all pr they leant into the fact
for the movie. They said it.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
They she kind of said it.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
She had a fiance Beyonce, but she admitted what a
lot of Hollywood people don't admit. She's like, this is
what you do to promote a movie. You lean into
the chemistry. It was a choice. She's like, my fiance
was a director on the movie. He was with me
the whole time. He literally watched the whole thing. He
knows what it is. It was very trusting. But you
as actors, they are pushed to drum up the publicity,
(37:23):
which they did. Sorry, that movie wasn't winning any Oscars.
It was only consumed so much because people wanted to
see if their real life chemistry was going to be
on the screen.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Well, I do think the interesting part is is that
we seem to make allowances because the general consensus around
cheating is that it's horrible we hate cheaters. Every time
we get questions into our podcast Life on Cut around cheating.
It makes people so mad and people get so angry
about it, which I understand because if you've ever been
cheated on, it's absolutely horrible. But why is it with
some of these Hollywood relationships When we ship the fictional
(37:55):
characters on screen so.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Much, we seem to be kind of.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
More forgiving with their romance, like the potential of them
leaving their partners and there ending up together than what
we would in other situations. And I think of people
like Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper on A Star Was Born.
I also think about Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie or
Mister and Missus Smith. I know that there was some
controversy around it at the time, but people weren't angry
(38:19):
for their partners. People just wanted to see them together
because they loved the chemistry of this on screen couple.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It's not just because we love the chemistries, because we
don't look at these people like their real people. We
don't look at them like their real life people with
real lives. We don't look at them that they go
home to the partners and cooked dinner and walk the
dog and pick up dog poo, and they're not real.
It's a fantasy. We romanticize Hollywood. We romanticize their life
and who they are and the impact it has on
other people. So we just look at it like, oh,
(38:46):
these are two hot people that we vibed their characters
in the movie. We want to see them together in
real life. That's just a story arc for us, and
we don't actually understand that at the end of the day,
these are normal people that go home to their lives
and their partners. And that that's why I think we
make allowances for quote unquote famous people to have these mishaps.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Should we say, yeah, mishaps cheating affairs, but let's call it.
You know, when you hear a story about a you know,
a famous person who's like, you know, ended up with
the bloody nanny or something like, everyone's outraged, you know,
I mean everyone is outraged normal quote unquot yah like
Ben Affleck. Didn't he have an affair with the nanny
allegedly allegedly?
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I think he did.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Ben Affleck's alleged affair with the nanny that was the
reason why him and Jana separated. Arnold Swarzenegger nanny not
alleged had a baby confirmed. We all get really angry
about these types of situations, this type of cheating, But
when it's an on screen couple that we have absolutely
shipped the chemistry of we seem to have a lot
more allowance for it. And if anything, there's people online
(39:48):
who are like excited by it and like rallying for
them to be together. How does find the whole thing fascinating? Anyways,
I reckon they're going to end up together.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I do it won't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Watch this space and will think it's a PRS done
and I'll be like ready to.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
You know, send flowers to their wedding.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I have spoken to quite a few people in the
acting world who have confirmed just how much these fake
romance has happen. That's what I will say. I know
some people that I will not say.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Can we get them on and change their voice?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Absolutely not. I wish I could say it was some
a very big person in Hollywood that was going through
a bit of a bad boy image and their publicist
called and said, hey, we need him to get his
image back on track. We're just looking for a super
wholesome relationship. They can be together for a couple of months,
just you know, she'll be really good for his image.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I always think with all the time, I always thinking
about Taylor Swift and Harry Styles were so short lived.
They had that beautiful little pr photo out walking down
the park hat and then.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
It was over.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Anyway, whatever it means nothing, I'm spreading rumors.
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