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December 5, 2025 12 mins

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Today's conversation is with JD and Carolyn Sarnoff, CMO at Pattern. They start off with a BIG sales mistake so many businesses make. And they go deeper into Pattern's success strategy.

This clip is from episode 164, originally aired in January 2025. You can find the original episode at this link, or on your favourite streaming platform.

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Jon Davids is an entrepreneur and speaker. He's been building businesses since he was a kid. With plenty of failures and a few big wins along the way. He's the founder of Influicity, where he helps businesses get more customers with marketing that actually works. He's married to his beautiful wife Alana and is the girl-dad to Ryley and Mikki.


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