August 24, 2025 • 58 mins
G Flip is one of Australia’s most exciting and versatile musical talents. Known for their electrifying performances, genre-blurring sound, and fearless authenticity, they’ve won fans around the world.
But behind the music, G Flip’s life has been just as compelling. In this episode of No Filter, they open up to Kate Langbroek about their marriage to Chrishell Stause, navigating love in the public eye, and the emotional rollercoaster of trying to start a family through IVF.
G Flip talks candidly about the challenges and joys of building a life together, the moments that tested their relationship, and the truths about love, identity, and family that rarely make it into the headlines. It’s a heartfelt, honest conversation about the highs and lows of life both on stage and off.
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G Flip’s album Dream Ride is out September 5.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges
the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast
is recorded on.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
The last few years. To be honest, it's an IVF.
It's been a real struggle and we've had so many
ups and downs and for anyone that goes through that
whole process, like hopeful moments and then sad moments, and
then there's a little bit of hope and then it
all backfires and then it's going starting again.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hello and welcome to No Filter. I'm kateline Brook and
today we're diving into the world of g Flip and
what a world it is. G Flip is one of
Australia's most exciting boundary pushing musicians, and from their breakout
hits to life behind the scenes, g shares the moments
(01:04):
that shape their journey from the highs of touring and
performing to very personal stories of love, relationships and family.
In this episode, we hear about the chance encounter that
led to meeting Krishelle Staus, how their friendship turned into love,
(01:26):
and what it's really like navigating life and relationships in
the very public eye. Plus, g Flip opens up about
the challenges of IVF, the joy of celebrating love with
annual weddings, and how they stay true to themselves no
matter what the world throws at them. This is g
(01:48):
flip raw unfiltered, and I think you'll find utterly captivating.
G flip Yell you straddle continents? Do I love a straddle?
I love a straddle? But you're with us? So you're
(02:10):
in Sydney, I'm in Melbourne, I'm in your hometown. Yes,
I was just there yesterday. And what were you doing here?
I flew in yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I didn't want to fly in and have a day
off in Sydney, so because my family aren't here, sometimes
I will fly into Melbourne just for a few hours
to see my family, then get straight back to the
airport and fly to Sydney.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So how was that? What did you do? Were you
at the house or Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So just at my place in Melbourne and my sister
and my brother in law and their little niece. My
little niece, so, yes, their little baby who's one and
a half and name's Betty Moon. She's so cute. So
just hung out on the couch with them for hours
until I went straight back to the airport and that's
what I do.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And how often are you getting to do this? Because
your life has I'm going to say, in the last
five years, what does it feel like to you where
it's kind of just gone stratospheric? I think probably after COVID.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So before COVID, my career started, like I became like
a professional musician.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I started doing this as my day job.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And then I tried to move over to LA at
the start of twenty twenty, had my flight booked, my
bags packed, and then I got called. Then yeah, COVID happened, Yeah,
and then took me till September twenty twenty one. Then
I went over to the States to live, and then
from there on it just got a bit more hectic.
(03:50):
So now I try to visit every three to four
months come back.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
What was it about LA that was calling you?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Definitely the music industry, just the industry over there. It's
like no other It's like nowhere else in the world
that there's that many producers, that many musicians, that many
like you know, if I'm in in Australia, it's like
there's no city that's like LA, Like Hollywood is crazy
over there, and it's so vibrant and it's just everyone's
(04:22):
over there and everyone's doing it. And I wanted to
take my career to the next level. And I always thought,
you know, that was going to be the next step
for me, is I want to be known as an
ossie artist, but also UH an artist known in other
territories rather than just in Australia.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So the juont and have access to people that you
can collaborate with and who you yeah, exchange creative juices
with exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, you know, my plan was always to move over
there at some point.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So and when you say always, so you are little
Georgia flip O living in Melbourne. Yep. What was Georgia
Flippo like as a kid? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I was very extra and like my older sister, was
quite shy and would hide behind like mum's legs where
we were anywhere, and I would be I almost needed
a leash. I would be like sprinting into every room
and loud, and I was just not afraid. I had
no fear as a kid, and I definitely had relentless,
(05:29):
undiagnosed ADHD.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I was like, there's videos of me as a kid
and it's like, oh, yeah, that kid has ADHD.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Right, So it seems so apparent now.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yes, and just so energetic, and but I really couldn't focus.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I didn't do very well in school.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I was put in special like classes and I would
have to stay back at like lunchtime and recess to
like learn because I just I really sucked, I feel
like academically. But then I had niche things that I
knew everything about. So I had certain things I was
obsessed with as a kid that I'd know every little
(06:09):
d detail about till I found music. And then it
was music that I was obsessed with in drums that
I wanted to know everything about. And then that took
me to where I am now.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And what because your dad was a muso, like amateur muso,
but enjoyed it enormously.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, he always you know, we'd talk about it, and
he always felt like he was meant to be a
rock star, but his parents weren't as supportive of that idea.
So he always you know, supported me. He always supported
me so much, you know, growing up and playing music
and we jam in the garage and he drive me
to all my first gigs as a fourteen year old,
(06:48):
and he really.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Backed me with all of it, which is interesting because
partly the parental thing. I understand, how many rock stars
can they be in the world, do you know what
I mean? And what's the likelihood of our kid being
the rock star? So parents always had this overriding, oh
you need to make a scene, Joys. But he saw
(07:11):
something in you recognized obviously the same thing in himself. Yeah,
And where did the drums come from? The drums?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So my drums was my first instrument in my first love.
I got my first drum kit when I was nine
years old from my auntie and uncle because my cousin
played drums and as a nine year old or eight
year old, seven eight year old, I was obsessed with
his drum kit. So on my ninth birthday, I got
a little drum kit for my birthday and it was
(07:42):
one of the greatest days of my life. And I
remember they hid it in the lounde room of my
grandma's house and unveiled it to me, and I remember
my eyes just like popping out of my head.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I was that excited about it. And because I imagine
that was the greatest day of your life and maybe
for a period the worst day in the neighbor's life.
Oh when a drum kit arise in in Yanana's house.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yes, I've never had a neighbor that likes me until
I guess the last two years at Chrischelle's moving into
Krishelle's house. But every other neighbor has hated me with
a passion.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yes, because it's a I mean, it's not it's not
something that you can do silently, is it. No, it's
really not.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And you can get like you get an electric drum kit,
but it's not the same. So yeah, my neighbor growing up,
he hated me, like hated me, hate.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
He would still be angry about me. Oh like really,
And do you see that neighbor even now.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
No, he moved out when I kind of moved out
of home.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So yeah, oh that's annoying. That's really annoying because you
want that kind of you want that redemption arc where
you come into on the tray truck that you're playing
in your new film clip and the neighbors just got
up suck it up.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, No, I hope sometimes I think about when my
tour poster is around on buses or I hope he
sees it. He's like some people are like, I hope
my ex sees my face, but I'm like, I hope
that neighbor growing up sees me.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's a very interesting thing because I think things seem
in retrospect. If you look back, you're like, oh, that
was my pathway, and my pathway was quite clear. It's
lead you to here. Yes, when you were a kid,
what did you see for yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
When I was a kid, So my first like, I think,
it wasn't until I was I got my drums. Before
I got my drums, I was obsessed with cars, and
I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Be a taxi driver. And then I got my drums.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And then when I got my drums, everything changed and
I wanted to be a.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Rock star or in a band.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But I also thought maybe I wanted to get into acting.
And then I also wanted to be a singer. So
there was all these different things. But I never got
singing lessons ever. I only ever had drum.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Lesson And so you thought, I mean, when did you
let the dream of being a taxi driver go? Wow?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I know, I think when I was when I got
my drums. I think when I was like nine years old.
Then the taxi driver went away. I just was obsessed
with cars as a kid. I knew every make and model.
I'd research, you know, what fuel injection each model would have,
and what alloy wheels would come with each model, and
like all I wanted to do on a weekend is
go to car yards with my dad.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
It was this weird obsession I had.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Wow, a taxi driver, and then yeah, I got drums,
and then I think it started to form that I
wanted to be a musician, which is.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Just as well, because I mean, AI hasn't overtaken the
skill of a drama yet, but there is a thing
called Uber that has meant that a lot of taxi drivers,
I'm not leaving their destiny that they drink for themselves.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I still love driving cars. You know,
maybe later in life I'll become an Uber drum My
stepdad's an Uber driver, So yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And so when you talk to drumming, did you allow
yourself to project a future in which that was going
to be your life?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, it was always in me, and I like really
fell in love with drums, and I had this passion.
It was the only thing that I could stay still
and do. I couldn't really stay still and do anything
but drums. I would sit there for hours. And then
it wasn't until I met my drum teacher in year seven,
Jenny Rose Morrish, who was like to me, like the
(11:56):
coolest person and I wanted to be exactly like them.
They were like the coolest cheek and played in a
band and sang backing vocals. And then having her as
my teacher, I feel like when your brain is like
forming at those like early teenage years and you're figuring
yourself out and what your dreams are going to be
and what you want to be when you're older, and
who you want to look up to. She really became
(12:18):
my person who I wanted to be exactly like. And
so she was a drummer in a band, so I
wanted to be a drummer.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Those people are so important. And if you're a kid
that is a little bit different, or probably any kid really,
but especially if you're a kid that feels a bit different,
all it takes is one person to see you and
to see the complete you that you can't even necessarily
see yourself at the time.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, to change everything one hundred and definitely. Jenny was
that for me and that I think drums took me
on a path, and then Jenny just like solidified that
path and then it never it never ended, and.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Then she wanted what for you?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So she after high school did a Bachelor of Music
and made it in percussion, and I wanted to do
the exact same course as her because I wanted to
do everything she did. So I wanted to study music
and major in drums. And she helped me with my
auditions to get into you need it to study music,
(13:24):
and then I got in and then not too long
after that, she passed away. And then I kind of
remember wanting to go on a mission to fulfill everything
that we talked about growing up and like her us
in the practice room in high school, because she taught
(13:44):
me for my whole high school. We talk about how
we're going to tour the world and we're going to
see America and we're going to live on a tour
bus and we're going to do this and all the
coolest things. So when she passed away, it was like really,
it really hit me, like holy shit, like I want
to go do everything that we talked about, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
The day that you got into your course, which those
auditions are intense. Yeah, like many are called, but few
were chosen. Yes. Who was the first person that you
called when you got in?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Ah, I think I got an email, So I remember
like screaming at home and then yeah, texting Jenny because
we went through all the drum pieces together and like,
and I knew I was going to get in because
I practiced so hard, like I was so ready for it.
But yeah, Jenny and then my family who were home
(14:41):
because I just wanted to get into that course because
it was based not on academics so ye, which I
wasn't good at. So yeah, I was like.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I really really wanted to get in there and study music.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And then during that course is when I realized that
I would always sing backing vocals. But there was this
one class we had where there was too many drummers
and not enough singers. So I put my hand up
to be the lead singer. When I was I think
(15:19):
I was like at nineteen or twenty, and I sang
James Brown and the university thought I was really good
that they asked me if I wanted to move over
to the singing course and the drumming course, And that
was kind of the first taste that I that I
(15:41):
just didn't know.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I didn't know I could sing well.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And then that really gave me the confidence because I've
never had a lesson, so that gave me the confidence
to be like.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh, maybe I'm an alright singer. I guess that's interesting
because when I first heard about you, I was living
in Italy, and in fact it was our mutual friend
Pete Hellier who told me about it. Oh yeah, my
Collingwood brother. Yeah, you're college Wood brother. Haha. But I
was at the time thinking I don't really know many
(16:16):
singing drummers. I knew Cram from Spider Back. Yes, love Cram, Yeah,
and that because it's not really a very common model.
No it's not.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And growing up, Cram was one of the first people
I saw drumming and singing.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Oh really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And now he's a buddy of mine and we've played
some shows together, but he was kind of the first
person I ever saw on TV singing and drumming, and
that really opened up my eyes, and especially because Jenny
did backing vocals, then it made me learn and then we.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Used to practice. Jenny taught me.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
She'd make me drum and then have a conversation with her,
so I could put my body on autopilot and she'd
asked me questions.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Right, which means that later on, when you're singing, yeah,
you can drum and the lyrics will come.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, it just puts my body. My body's always on autopilot.
And basically all I'm thinking about is the singing and
remembering lyrics. My body is on autopilot. And because Jenny
taught me that from a young age, I used to
just drum while my brain's just thinking about answering questions
that she's asking me. So that split my brain kind
(17:29):
of into.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And for the ADHD that would actually be really good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I love doing multiple things at once because my brain
how it works is I've got like a tab open
of like ten files in my brain that is thinking
all the time. So yeah it yeah, But CRAM and
Yeah inspired me a lot, and then yeah, I just
started writing my own music.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Then do you think that Jenny saw you? So she
saw the musical side of you. But that's a very
intimate relationship between a teacher who's taught you so much. Yes,
and like I said, sees the entire of you. What
did she say of you? When it comes to gender
(18:16):
do you think.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I think with gender back then, it wasn't in our vocabulary,
it wasn't talked about, Like not being non binary wasn't
really a thing then, but being like queer and like
being a lesbian. I think she definitely saw me because
she said. I remember her saying something to me when
(18:39):
I was like I'm going to say like fourteen or something.
She's like, she said something like, one day when you're older,
like you'll figure out like who you truly are and
it's going to be so magical for you. Said something
in like in those words, and I always remember it,
and I always remember being like, what did she mean?
(19:00):
And then it wasn't until later that like I first
got with a woman for the first time, that I
was like, man, like Jenny knew me so like she
and she also said. I remember her saying, I don't
know what you're going to do with your life, but
it's going to be it's going to be something like
and it makes me like tear up when I think about.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Because it's like, oh my god. So I really feel
like she's like a guardian name do it to me
or something like that. Yeah, well she is, yeah, yeah
she is. And she was and she is because I
think when you have a relationship like that, the energy
of it stays with you. Yeah, and now you're carrying
(19:42):
her dreams as well. Yeah, like beyond beyond I would
think imagining. Did you imagine stuff for yourself?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah? I always like it's almost like I was delusional,
Like I really thought every everything was possible. I thought like,
if I wanted a drum for the biggest artists in
the world, like I can figure out a way to
make that happen. Like I always thought everything was possible,
Like there was never anything that I thought wasn't possible.
(20:17):
And I don't know where I got that from, and
I don't know how that happened, but that's always how
my brain operated. So when it came to me deciding
to stop playing drums for other people, because I did
that for a while, playing drums for other bands, and
when I really decided to change gears and that I'm
(20:37):
going to go for being a solo artist now, because
it was always kind of knocking at me in the
back of my head, being like, you should be a
solo artist, you should be a solo artist. But I
was always kind of hiding behind the drums and playing
for other bands.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
And session is session is like dreams for some people
as well, Like there's no shame in that. No, No,
you had the calling. What did that feel like? That calling?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I just remember when I was like fourteen fifteen, so
I always played drums, but then I started teaching myself
guitar and piano, and i'd run, I'd run home from
the school bus and before my family all came home,
I just want alone time so I could write songs.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And I'd play on.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
My little shitty cassio keyboard and my first little guitar,
and I'd just write songs. And I remember delusionally thinking
like these songs are so good, like I am such
a good songwriter, and they would be horrible songs, but
I remember the delusionalness in my brain being like encouraging
me made me thought that I was a really, really
(21:44):
talented songwriter.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And I was like, these are such good songs, They're
so catchy.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And then that kept carrying on, and while I was
playing drums for other people, I was always writing songs
and then teaching myself how to produce music and record music.
So always in my head it was like, oh, it's
also the band I was playing with. We couldn't share
song ideas. It was just his songs, So then I
(22:09):
couldn't have input with.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Your brilliant songs that you were writing.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, so yeah, it was always when that band, the
last band I played for, finish, then it was like,
I think it's time to do this solo thing. And
you know the way that my brain works is like
it's always possible, so we'll figure out how to get there.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's funny you say delusional, but you weren't delusional.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, but I think it's at the I find a
lot of people that I've met that have, I don't know,
become successful musicians. It's this crazy belief we have in
ourselves when we haven't even sharpened our skills yet. Like
when those like I used to think then that, oh yeah,
I'm going to be a super successful artist. But my
(23:01):
skills like I could barely sing, like could barely rock
a guitar solo, Like, my skills weren't sharpened. And now
that I'm older, I can IDENTI to buy that and
look back and be like man like the confidence I had.
The confidence was insane, and I was never outwardly arrogant
about it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I never told anyone this.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I always kept it as my little secret that I
wanted to be a solo artist.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I never shared it with anyone. Coming up after the break,
g Flip recalls the moment they went from music teacher
to music artist overnight. You knew that you were going
to get into. Was it the conservatorium? Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It was a Bachelor of Music majoring in drums.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Now you said when you were talking about that, you
knew you were going to get in because you'd worked
so hard. Yes, Now, I reckon that's a through line,
and that's the divide between people that might have some
delulu notion about what they want for their future. Yeah,
versus what makes that happen. Yeah, and your work ethic
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is phenomenal. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I do work a lot. I don't know how to
not work. Actually, it's more it's kind of unhealthy. But Yeah,
even with those auditions, I would practice, rehearse everything that
they were going to even ask me. So I'd thought
about every possible question they could ask me. So I
had rehearsed, sharp, perfected answers. And even when i'd audition
(24:43):
for bands, you'd have to audition three songs. I'd learn
their entire catalog just in case and backing vocals, so
that when I go into an audition, I could be like, Hey,
you've played those three songs all day. How about we
played this song or that song or that song. So
I think for me, I've always over prepared like so
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so so much that it's like, if I did an audition,
like it'd be really hard to turn down. So even
with my career, I did absolutely just everything possible. So
it felt like I'd open the door in so many
avenues that at least one of the routes is going
to work.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Because I always think there's so many ways to fuck
yourself up, and there's so many ways that the external
world can trip you up as well. You don't need
to trip yourself up through lack of preparation. No, no, yeah,
And at what point did you go did you start
to feel the momentum of all of that coming together.
(25:46):
So you're singing, you're drumming, you've got the call to America.
Was there a moment where you went, oh, I think
I think g Flip's going to do this.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I think, yeah, there was definitely one defining moment.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
So after I.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Left that last band, I gave myself one year to
basically find management or a label, and I had no
connections in the Australian music scene. But I gave myself
about a year to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
So I made Excel.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Spreadsheets of the whole music industry in Australia. I had
everyone's details from Triple J, all the booking agents, Spotify, playlisters,
and I made this insane spreadsheet of the whole music industry.
And then I would I was just I was so relentless.
I was just insane, and I wanted to write my
hit list of who I wanted to be, my publicist
(26:50):
and my booking agent. And then I wrote as many
wrote and produced as many songs in my bedroom and
it's all I thought about.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
For a year.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I went sober, I didn't really see my friends. All
my friends would come over on the weekend and help
me make my spreadsheets.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I was very cute of them crafting.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And then it was I started going to all these
in the Australian music scene. They have like Music Week
in Melbourne, and they have Music Week in Sydney, and
you go listen to managers and labels talk about the
industry and I would go there, and my whole plan
was that I'm going to talk to that manager afterwards
(27:29):
and give him my demos, and I'm going to talk
to that booking agent and learn more about the industry.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And I was just so obsessed with it.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And then this one manager I walked up and said, Hey,
you should listen.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
To my demos.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm like Dave Grohl from Nirvana, played drums in a band,
but now I'm a lead singer and I write the
music and you're going to love my demos if you
give me a shot, just have a listen. And he
looked at me and said, your confidence is so crazy.
I'm actually going to listen to your demos. And then
he listened to the demos and then sent me a
message and said, hey, come to my office Monday morning.
(28:03):
And then I remember just driving my car and calling
my dad and being like holy shit, like holy shit.
And I'd worked the whole year to the point and
I got my database and I was about to blast
email everyone but my demos, but then that one manager
(28:25):
heard it first, and then he wanted to sign me
for management and label. So then I took his name
and then I messaged as many people as I could
in the Australian music industry and said he wants to
sign me, so you should listen to my demos. And
then everyone that I sent them listened to my demos.
And then I just got to meet heaps of different
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people in the music industry and kind of pick my.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Turn yourself into a bidding war.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I did, yeah, Wow, yeah, and then that all happened.
And at the same time I had my first single
about You that and I was obsessed with Triple J
on Earth, this platform, and I was a super yu.
I was so obsessed with that I would write reviews
because I knew at some stage I'm going to have
(29:14):
a single and I want to have a direct contact
that I can give my song to them. Because this
was about this is how my brain works. I wanted
every avenue to work, so even the Triple J thing,
I was a super user. And then Max Quinn I
had his email and this doesn't mean that you get
on the air, but it means you just have the
(29:34):
email of the guy that works at Triple Jay on
Earth for me to just send him and be like, hey,
I uploaded a song today. And then it was this
was the day that to answer your question that I
remember everything feeling like, holy shit, I think it's going
to work.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Is that song.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
That I uploaded to Triple Jay on Earth blew Up
and then went on the air on Triple j and
started going psycho online. And then I remember going to
bed that night, And I've documented all of this, actually,
all of this story.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I'm telling you, I'm not surprised. Yeah, there's real.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Life videos of me talking about it, but I have
a video of me going to sleep that night and
being like, holy shit. I don't think I'm going to
have to, you know, teach drum lessons anymore. And I
don't think I'm going to have to hand out pamphlets
at Rod Laver Arena anymore. Like I think I think
I've made it. Even though it was just the first
I just got a spin, but it just made me
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think that, oh, I think I'm going to be okay
here and I'm going to be able to do this
for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So did you send a little preyer up to Jenny
at that time? Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Obviously, Jenny's always in the back of my head, and
when the song came out, it was actually.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
It was on her birthday. Oh really yeah, oh really
see that.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I get these two confused when she passed ords on
her birthday, but those dates, yeah, that was pretty special.
And yeah, and then I just woke up and then
everything changed and I had to message all because I
was teaching drum students in my bedroom and I had
to message them all and say, I'm so sorry I
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won't be able to teach all of you anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Well you dragged them straight away. Yeah, my life changed
the next day. Wow. And like when you say changed,
what did that look like? Gigs or appointments or sessions.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So my song went viral online and it hadn't even
been released yet. It was just on Triple J on
the website, so it wasn't even a release song. I
just uploaded it to the website platform. But overnight it
went global and it became Pitchfork's Best New Song, which
is like a big deal in the US. And then
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I started getting gig offers at south By Southwest in Texas,
which was which was in two weeks time, So I
had two weeks to find a band and then play
my first show, which luckily I'm such a freak, and
I prepared my whole entire show already, So I was
ready for that exact moment, because if I hadn't planned
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it all out first, I would have been in trouble.
But I already had my show and my band members
and thought exactly about what my live show would be.
So then two weeks later from there, I was in
the States and playing my very first show.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And that was that, your first time in the States. No,
I'd been in the States before drumming for other bands, right,
but in your own right.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, the first time being g G Flip And then yeah,
I had my first show as g Flip and yeah,
then it began and it never stopped.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
No, it never stopped. And then concurrently with that, because
I do believe that when as an artist, particularly, the
more that you can step into yourself, the more everything
else blossoms. Yeah, and so often those things that you
grapple with about yourself or that you think you can't
(33:24):
share are the very things that give you that are
the wind in your wings. So with your I don't know,
do you say self discovery or your revelations about yourself
or your non binary thing, your what was the compulsion
then that you went, I just need to share this
(33:49):
with the famous. Hey, motherfuckers, I'm non binary.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, yeah, I guess I was overtly queer, and I
had multiple partners that i'd write songs about, and you know,
my music videos, they were very queer leaning. And then
just as I evolved as a human being, I learned
about what being and I would see like Sam Smith
(34:15):
and Demi Levado at the time, and people would come
out non binary, and I educated myself on what that was,
and then I remember like really reading and understanding it
and then being like, oh, oh my god, that's like
so me to a t. And then when I would
(34:36):
try to explain being non binary to my friends or
family members, then I would kind of use myself as
an example, and it just felt it's just so me.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I just feel so.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Non binary, and if you don't get it, it's because
you're probably not non binary. Like I just feel so
like a blend of genders. I just feel like the
most gender smoothie motherfucker ever. And I felt like that
from a very young age. I'd look at myself in
the mirror and I'd be like because I went to
Catholic school, and I'd be like, wow, God, really he
(35:13):
ran out of girl insides and brain, and I think
he just put a bit of boy brain or insides
in me because I feel like a mix. And I'm
like seven years old, eight years old thinking that, and
then to me like, that's the most non binary thing,
for most non binary thing, for seven year old to think.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
That that God made you that way.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, And obviously then there was no vocabulary for being
non binary, Like I didn't know that was a thing.
But I look back on my childhood and it just it.
Being non binary makes so much sense I've always felt.
And for every non binary person it's different where you
fall on the spectrum, but I feel pretty fifty to
fifty in the middle of like female male, mix of gender,
(36:02):
and that's the best way I can describe it. That's
just who I am, and I don't know how to
change it. So when people get in my DMS being hectic, it, yes,
can't change this.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yes, when you told your family didn't make the same
sense to them, or to your mum, or to your
dad or to your sister, who who of them was
the one that was like, yeah, I see that the most.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Probably my sister the most. I feel like my mom
and dad kind of didn't understand it because it was
quite a while ago now, so I feel like now
they're so educated on it because I'm their kid, But
back then they did struggle to understand pronouns and just
(36:50):
figure out. And I feel like for that age group,
like they're in their early sixties, so it is kind
of harder, but for them to grapple the idea of it.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I saw your dad do a kid thing actually on
sixty Minutes where he said, sometimes I miss gender them. Yeah,
so what that is? You just ask for people to
rise to meet you. Really.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, it's you know, and it's kind of a respect thing.
It's like, that's what I go by. And like, even
if you stuff it up and completely fail and stuff
up my pronouns, as long as you're like, oh fuck, sorry, ge,
and then you correct yourself or just correct yourself, like
so many of my mates will accidentally say she and
then be like they and then just keep talking and
(37:36):
you know, it's it's normal.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
After this short break, g Flip takes us inside their
relationship with wife Krishelle Don't go anywhere. How was your
meeting with Chrishchelle because at that point, so she's a
massive star in the States, yes, selling Sunset. She's had
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romantic entanglements on that show. She's been doing it for
so long. There's no secrets about her life. Really no.
And then you two meet, you meet at a party.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, our first meet was at a Halloween party that
tones and I had.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Ah, what was your costume?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I was a skeleton and so was Krishelle. Oh really,
so that's why we have a thing with skeletons. So
I've got skeletons tattooed on my arms and our wedding
rings have skeletons on them. Oh so, yeah we met.
She was a really hot skeleton. I got my my
I literally found like some eyeliner pencil and just like
(38:54):
blacked my eyes out and found like a kid's T
shirt from Target that had bones on it and run
sleeves off. So I was a fifteen buck skeleton. She
was like, I really put together good looking skeleton.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Well she is a very good looking. She's yeah, she's
insane looking. And from the moment you met the skeletons, like,
what was that moment you were introduced to each other,
or you went up and you talked to her, or
she came up to you. Can you remember your encounter
your skeleton encounter. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
First time we met was one of Tone's best mates.
Talia was at the front of this venue and was like, oh, gee,
come over, meet Kroschelle. And then I was like all right,
and then I just came over and we shook hands
and I said hey and she said hey, and then
I was like, like, you're real, like a really good
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looking skeleton and I'm not so good looking skeleton. But
it wasn't like romantic or anything. It was just like
a friend group meeting a friend group. It wasn't until
like six months later or something that then some sparks
flew yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Which is was I mean, probably more straightforward for you
at that time than it was for her because she
didn't think that she was gonna be a lesbian or no. Right,
she was straight as far as she knew and maybe
(40:28):
Stille's but loves who she loves.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, she doesn't really know what to call herself, Like
the word is really pan sexual, and when you're pans sexual,
you're just attracted to energy. It's not really a gender,
it's the person. But she personally hates the word pans.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
It is it's sort of hard to casually toss toss
that in.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, it's a kind of ugly word. So she's like, no,
I don't want to identify as that. So she just
says like she falls in love with energy and people
and who they are, and I guess you know that's
the case with us. And yeah, we've been together now
over three years.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
And that's amazing because I love I've heard you tell
the story about when you asked her out after you'd
had a couple of you know, encounters, and she said,
I'm really sorry, ye I'm straight.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yes she did, but you were like, I just thought, well,
we haven't been been very straight together recently, That's what
I thought. Like the last few times we've had little
kisses here and there that wasn't very straight, darling, But yeah,
that's what I thought. But I just said, oh, okay,
(41:48):
no worries. And then a few like a week after,
I sent her some houses that I was because she's
a real estate agent and I was going to try
rent a house in La after tour my tour finished,
So I sent her some houses and I was like,
is this a good price range for where it is
in the location and whatever, And then she offered to
(42:13):
come and look at the houses with me, and then
that was our first date. A did you know at
the time it was a date or it was only
in retrospect. I think I knew it was a because yeah,
in my head, she just told me she was straight
and not interested. And then when I rocked up to
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the house, I was in the car and I looked
out the window and saw her walking down the road
to the house and she was like adjusting her face
makeup or something and looking incredible, Like I knew she'd
taken time to get ready. And she remembers like in
(42:55):
her words, she would say like when she was getting
ready that day, she was getting ready like she was
going to meet someone that she had a crush on,
like took that extra time and tried on different dresses
and no, not this. And so then that's kind of
when it clicked in her brain. And I think it
clicked in mind because I was looking at like her
walking down the street looking like an absolute fox. And
(43:18):
then also just like she was doing something like putting
lip stuff on or something. And then we were just
at this house showing and we were just flirted the
whole time, and then it never the flirting never.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Ended, and it still hasn't ended, even though now you're
an old married couple. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, we do a wedding once a year. We reknew
our vows. It kind of started because our first wedding
was so shotgun. We married after three months kind of dating,
which I think a lot of the world think we
got married like a year later, when really we.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Got We kept it a secret because yeah, we got married.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Like three months after we started fully kind of dating.
And then obviously we called our family and we decided
the day of because we worked out we both had
the day off the next day, so then we ended
up deciding to go to Vegas and get married. Anyway,
we called all our friends and family and they were
(44:22):
all kind of like, what do you mean, Like they
were very happy for us, but they were sad they
were missing it. So we said, don't worry, we're going
to do another one.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Like so, then we're going to do another one.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
So then the next one was in Palm Springs so
that our friends in LA could come, and then my
family's like, but we can't make it, so we're like, yeah, okay,
we'll do another one. So then we did another one
in Australia with all my family, and then this year
we had other friends that missed out, so then we
were like, Okay, we'll do it, and then it just became.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
The Wedding World Tour.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
So now we do a wedding every year, and you know,
we're covering the base of a big wedding, which we
probably that most people have with over one hundred guests.
We're just slowly getting to all one hundred guests world War.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Ten at a time. Yes, and what like your last
one was it? It was medieval? Was it then medieval?
And you are were you a knight? I don't know
what I was? Yeah, what were you? Was it a
costume shop or was it? No? So arn't directed?
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, no, So all our weddings are planned one week
in advance or less because our whole thing with weddings
is we don't want to be stressed because we hate
stress for weddings and it should be our love.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
So everything is so last minute planned.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
So really I had to just look on Amazon and
see what could get delivered in time, and I bought.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
What was the description? What was the description of the costume?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Some like Renaissance medieval royal coat? Yeah, And then and
then I bought a sort. I like the thought of
having a sword that was called to me, So I
bought a foam sword and a a sword holder, and
then I wore some of Krashelle's like leggings from her
fitness and then I just wore these boots that I'm
(46:16):
wearing right now.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
It was gorgeous. It was a bit Zelderish too.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, it was a bit fantasy, and when I'm like
into that stuff. It was kind of a joke, like
it was a week out from when we're meant to
be getting married, because we always have to do it
in July, and I think it was Kroshelle was just like,
what was if we did a medieval wedding, and I
just looked at it. I was like, oh my god,
that's so funny, Like we should get a loop player.
(46:43):
And then H's like, we should get people who fight
with swords, and we just were making each other laugh.
And then we happened to look on Airbnb and there
was a castle around the corner that you could hire
just as an Airbnb. So then we were like, all right,
let's book it and then let's find some people to
fight with some swords.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
You jousted, You jousted like you've barely jousted and in
the relationship between the two of you is very lovely,
and the happiness between you is you know, it's when
you talk before about trolls and stuff, I'm like, partly,
I'm like, who can be bothered trolling in the face
(47:26):
of what is objectively pure happiness?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, still happens. Still, people think, still think that our
relationships fake, and we find that funny because God, we
hang out all the time. Imagine having a pr relationship
having to hang out with each other all day.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
And especially especially in Hollywood, because have you noticed as
an Australian I think part of the reason they love
you is that you've got this really authentic, almost kind
of old fashioned Australian energy, you know, Alarican and a
bit relaxed and have a laugh instead of getting angry
and being open instead of close the doors. So that
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to Hollywood must have been a shock.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, I think I think honestly, just Krishelle not being
with a man was the biggest shock. I think that
really took Americans. And you know a lot of the
selling Sunset fan base isn't you know in states where
it's you know, really common to have queer relationships like
Middle America's very like you know, tradition. It's yeah, it's
(48:38):
trad it's like so it was really shocking to see
her in a not with like a six foot man, you.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Know, like it was.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
It really made people crazy, and especially at that time
when we came out public in a relationship, like the
dms and just the the things that you just I
just couldn't believe how much it affected people's days. Like,
you know, there'd be a Karen in Middle America just
(49:07):
sweeping and then they'd be just so angry and then
they'd have to get on their phone to like message
me because they're just so furious that.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
I'm with her. So yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
It was very eye opening to me about how people
are homophobic or you.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Know, scared or fearful, fearful of things, because I think
fear and anger live kind of close to each other.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, it was really interesting and it still happens, to
be honest, I'm still getting dms that people are so
upset with my gender or that I'm with Koshelle, or
that I'm queer, or you know, people are just they're
angry at it. But it really just you know, in
the end. It kind of does amuse me that someone
is literally driving to the shops to buy some cereal
(49:56):
and bread and milk and they just have to pull
the car over to like message me how angry angry
they are, Like, what a crazy way to live. You
know that you're just ticked off by someone exists, But.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
What you continue to do in the face of that
is exist even more fully.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, one, you know, I would never dull myself down.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
And by the way, on an unrelated note, I was
also doing the project the night Krischelle came in, which
was not long ago. Oh my goodness that the response
to her was so beautiful, just so beautiful. Yeah, she's
she's a great one. I know, I've really lucked out.
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She's an Arab.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
When my family found out, like we're seriously going to
be together, it wasn't just like a little fling. They
all cried. They were like because they just thought she
was the best person they ever met.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
So, you know, because Chrischelle's just spoken recently and I've
heard you speak before too about and Krishelle's always been
really open about the fact that she wants to have babies. Yes,
and recently she came out and said that that wasn't
working out so well.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, the last few years, to be honest, it's an IVF.
It's been a real struggle and we've had so many, gods,
so many ups and downs. And for anyone that goes
through that whole process, like, it really takes a toll.
And there's you know, hopeful moments and then sad moments,
and then there's a little bit of hope and then
(51:42):
it all backfires and then it's going starting again. So yeah,
it's definitely been uh And the hormones. The hormones are
rough hormones. And the amount of needles, like it's crazy.
And surgeries and she's such a baller though. Whenever Krishelle
has surgeries or has to go through anything where the
(52:06):
doctor might give you pain medication, majority of the time
she doesn't even take the medication. She's just a baller,
Like her pain tolerance is insane. Like, so she's such
a tough cookie. And you know, I admire, I admire
just everything and how strong she is and how she's
taking all, you know, the news that we get and
(52:27):
she's just she's so amazing, and she's such a brilliant
and strong human being. For everything she's gone through, not
only with this whole process we're going through, but also
her whole life, Like her story is pretty amazing. What
she's got through to get to where she has. Her
childhood was nothing like you would think, and it's completely
(52:50):
the opposite. So I just admire every everything about her
and where she's come from.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
You're very yin and yang. You know there's something together
that's so whole. With the two of you together. I
hope you're I hope your every dream comes true together
because you were delightful and individually. Thank you for your
gift of music and really being a great ambassador for Australia,
(53:21):
which life not every Australian is. But I truly believe
that your spirit and you get up and go is
just glorious. That's very sweet. That's going to make me cry.
The future is a big place. You have to narrow
it down slightly to what is coming up. It's dream Ride.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yes, album's coming out September fifth. It's called dream Ride.
It's a very eighties esque kind of album. I went
really hard into the eighties world sonically, with like big
reverb on the drums, and you know every drum is
me playing it and a lot of sax solos and
synth solos, and yeah, I'm really excited to release this
(54:04):
record on September fifth.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
We look forward to seeing you very much.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yes, So I'm coming back to Australia late feb and
March to play shows in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth.
And I can't wait to come and play shows. Playing
shows is my favorite part about my job, and I
spend a lot of time trying to make my live
show as good as possible. And I've been working on
it the last week and yeah, it's going to be
(54:30):
a ripper. So I can't wait and hope hopefully some
people come out to see me. It's going to be good.
Oh I think they will. Jenny's brother comes to my
shows and they have a little girl who's a huge
G Flip fan, their little daughter, so Jenny's niece.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
So it's very very cute.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
And my last show I played in Melbourne, Jenny's brow
and his wife came to that show and they gave
me a pair of Jenny's last drumsticks, which is really special.
Really yeah, yeah, it was really niceh Just the power
of a teacher I know, and that's what me beat
want to be a drum teacher. So then I followed
(55:12):
in her, and then when she passed, I took over
a lot of her drum students as well.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
And then you drop them to be Jefly now, and
then I became Jefly. Then I couldn't teach them anymore.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
But yeah, so yeah, Jenny's a big part and I
have Jenny related tattoos all over my body too.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
You deserve everything good? And also what did you take?
What do you take to Kara Delvine's party? What was
in that big box? What was it? What was it?
Do you want to know? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
I was like, I was literally like, this is really funny.
I'll Kara in bind me to the party. And I
texted her and I was like, I'm getting you. I'm
going to get you a real strange present. She's like
I can't wait looking forward to it. And then I
was thinking, what do you get a girl that has
it all, like she's got everything?
Speaker 1 (56:04):
What do you get her?
Speaker 2 (56:05):
And I was like, I bet she doesn't own bagpipes?
So that photo were present, there's bagpipes?
Speaker 1 (56:17):
This yeah, yeah, all right, I guarantee you something and
that is that you g Flip will learn to play
them before she does.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Do you know what when I bought her the bagpipes,
I might have bought myself some pipes too, Yeah, but
she loved them.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
She thought they were great. Oh that's great, that's great. Well,
god speed to you. Thanks for joining us on no Filter.
Thank you for showing yourself. Ah, thank you so much, Kate.
I remember driving from Dingley.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Village to Cheltenham to go to school every morning and
listening to you in the car and your voice has
always been such a calming, warm energy. So that's where
I tear up, because you're like always grown up with
you at round.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
So I love it. I love you es Kate, Okay,
I love you two, kre. I think to know g
Flip is to love g Flip because, like I said
to them in our chat, there's something quintessentially Australian about them,
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a sense of mischief, a sense of joy, a sense
of she'll be right, but also so cool, so themselves,
so talented. G Flip has really done it all, from
chart topping jams to the emotional rollercoaster of IVF. They
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fell hard and fast for Chrishelle along the way and
are really making it work. And I think there's magic
in someone who lives their life full volume and flips
the script at every turn, or should I say g
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
The last few years. To be honest, it's an IVF.
It's been a real struggle and we've had so many
ups and downs and for anyone that goes through that
whole process, like hopeful moments and then sad moments, and
then there's a little bit of hope and then it
all backfires and then it's going starting again.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hello and welcome to No Filter. I'm kateline Brook and
today we're diving into the world of g Flip and
what a world it is. G Flip is one of
Australia's most exciting boundary pushing musicians, and from their breakout
hits to life behind the scenes, g shares the moments
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that shape their journey from the highs of touring and
performing to very personal stories of love, relationships and family.
In this episode, we hear about the chance encounter that
led to meeting Krishelle Staus, how their friendship turned into love,
(01:26):
and what it's really like navigating life and relationships in
the very public eye. Plus, g Flip opens up about
the challenges of IVF, the joy of celebrating love with
annual weddings, and how they stay true to themselves no
matter what the world throws at them. This is g
(01:48):
flip raw unfiltered, and I think you'll find utterly captivating.
G flip Yell you straddle continents? Do I love a straddle?
I love a straddle? But you're with us? So you're
(02:10):
in Sydney, I'm in Melbourne, I'm in your hometown. Yes,
I was just there yesterday. And what were you doing here?
I flew in yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I didn't want to fly in and have a day
off in Sydney, so because my family aren't here, sometimes
I will fly into Melbourne just for a few hours
to see my family, then get straight back to the
airport and fly to Sydney.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So how was that? What did you do? Were you
at the house or Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So just at my place in Melbourne and my sister
and my brother in law and their little niece. My
little niece, so, yes, their little baby who's one and
a half and name's Betty Moon. She's so cute. So
just hung out on the couch with them for hours
until I went straight back to the airport and that's
what I do.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And how often are you getting to do this? Because
your life has I'm going to say, in the last
five years, what does it feel like to you where
it's kind of just gone stratospheric? I think probably after COVID.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So before COVID, my career started, like I became like
a professional musician.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I started doing this as my day job.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And then I tried to move over to LA at
the start of twenty twenty, had my flight booked, my
bags packed, and then I got called. Then yeah, COVID happened, Yeah,
and then took me till September twenty twenty one. Then
I went over to the States to live, and then
from there on it just got a bit more hectic.
(03:50):
So now I try to visit every three to four
months come back.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
What was it about LA that was calling you?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Definitely the music industry, just the industry over there. It's
like no other It's like nowhere else in the world
that there's that many producers, that many musicians, that many
like you know, if I'm in in Australia, it's like
there's no city that's like LA, Like Hollywood is crazy
over there, and it's so vibrant and it's just everyone's
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over there and everyone's doing it. And I wanted to
take my career to the next level. And I always thought,
you know, that was going to be the next step
for me, is I want to be known as an
ossie artist, but also UH an artist known in other
territories rather than just in Australia.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So the juont and have access to people that you
can collaborate with and who you yeah, exchange creative juices
with exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, you know, my plan was always to move over
there at some point.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So and when you say always, so you are little
Georgia flip O living in Melbourne. Yep. What was Georgia
Flippo like as a kid? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I was very extra and like my older sister, was
quite shy and would hide behind like mum's legs where
we were anywhere, and I would be I almost needed
a leash. I would be like sprinting into every room
and loud, and I was just not afraid. I had
no fear as a kid, and I definitely had relentless,
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undiagnosed ADHD.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I was like, there's videos of me as a kid
and it's like, oh, yeah, that kid has ADHD.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Right, So it seems so apparent now.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yes, and just so energetic, and but I really couldn't focus.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I didn't do very well in school.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I was put in special like classes and I would
have to stay back at like lunchtime and recess to
like learn because I just I really sucked, I feel
like academically. But then I had niche things that I
knew everything about. So I had certain things I was
obsessed with as a kid that I'd know every little
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d detail about till I found music. And then it
was music that I was obsessed with in drums that
I wanted to know everything about. And then that took
me to where I am now.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And what because your dad was a muso, like amateur muso,
but enjoyed it enormously.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, he always you know, we'd talk about it, and
he always felt like he was meant to be a
rock star, but his parents weren't as supportive of that idea.
So he always you know, supported me. He always supported
me so much, you know, growing up and playing music
and we jam in the garage and he drive me
to all my first gigs as a fourteen year old,
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and he really.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Backed me with all of it, which is interesting because
partly the parental thing. I understand, how many rock stars
can they be in the world, do you know what
I mean? And what's the likelihood of our kid being
the rock star? So parents always had this overriding, oh
you need to make a scene, Joys. But he saw
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something in you recognized obviously the same thing in himself. Yeah,
And where did the drums come from? The drums?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So my drums was my first instrument in my first love.
I got my first drum kit when I was nine
years old from my auntie and uncle because my cousin
played drums and as a nine year old or eight
year old, seven eight year old, I was obsessed with
his drum kit. So on my ninth birthday, I got
a little drum kit for my birthday and it was
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one of the greatest days of my life. And I
remember they hid it in the lounde room of my
grandma's house and unveiled it to me, and I remember
my eyes just like popping out of my head.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I was that excited about it. And because I imagine
that was the greatest day of your life and maybe
for a period the worst day in the neighbor's life.
Oh when a drum kit arise in in Yanana's house.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yes, I've never had a neighbor that likes me until
I guess the last two years at Chrischelle's moving into
Krishelle's house. But every other neighbor has hated me with
a passion.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yes, because it's a I mean, it's not it's not
something that you can do silently, is it. No, it's
really not.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And you can get like you get an electric drum kit,
but it's not the same. So yeah, my neighbor growing up,
he hated me, like hated me, hate.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
He would still be angry about me. Oh like really,
And do you see that neighbor even now.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
No, he moved out when I kind of moved out
of home.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So yeah, oh that's annoying. That's really annoying because you
want that kind of you want that redemption arc where
you come into on the tray truck that you're playing
in your new film clip and the neighbors just got
up suck it up.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, No, I hope sometimes I think about when my
tour poster is around on buses or I hope he
sees it. He's like some people are like, I hope
my ex sees my face, but I'm like, I hope
that neighbor growing up sees me.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's a very interesting thing because I think things seem
in retrospect. If you look back, you're like, oh, that
was my pathway, and my pathway was quite clear. It's
lead you to here. Yes, when you were a kid,
what did you see for yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
When I was a kid, So my first like, I think,
it wasn't until I was I got my drums. Before
I got my drums, I was obsessed with cars, and
I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Be a taxi driver. And then I got my drums.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And then when I got my drums, everything changed and
I wanted to be a.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Rock star or in a band.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But I also thought maybe I wanted to get into acting.
And then I also wanted to be a singer. So
there was all these different things. But I never got
singing lessons ever. I only ever had drum.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Lesson And so you thought, I mean, when did you
let the dream of being a taxi driver go? Wow?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I know, I think when I was when I got
my drums. I think when I was like nine years old.
Then the taxi driver went away. I just was obsessed
with cars as a kid. I knew every make and model.
I'd research, you know, what fuel injection each model would have,
and what alloy wheels would come with each model, and
like all I wanted to do on a weekend is
go to car yards with my dad.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
It was this weird obsession I had.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Wow, a taxi driver, and then yeah, I got drums,
and then I think it started to form that I
wanted to be a musician, which is.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Just as well, because I mean, AI hasn't overtaken the
skill of a drama yet, but there is a thing
called Uber that has meant that a lot of taxi drivers,
I'm not leaving their destiny that they drink for themselves.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I still love driving cars. You know,
maybe later in life I'll become an Uber drum My
stepdad's an Uber driver, So yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And so when you talk to drumming, did you allow
yourself to project a future in which that was going
to be your life?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, it was always in me, and I like really
fell in love with drums, and I had this passion.
It was the only thing that I could stay still
and do. I couldn't really stay still and do anything
but drums. I would sit there for hours. And then
it wasn't until I met my drum teacher in year seven,
Jenny Rose Morrish, who was like to me, like the
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coolest person and I wanted to be exactly like them.
They were like the coolest cheek and played in a
band and sang backing vocals. And then having her as
my teacher, I feel like when your brain is like
forming at those like early teenage years and you're figuring
yourself out and what your dreams are going to be
and what you want to be when you're older, and
who you want to look up to. She really became
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my person who I wanted to be exactly like. And
so she was a drummer in a band, so I
wanted to be a drummer.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Those people are so important. And if you're a kid
that is a little bit different, or probably any kid really,
but especially if you're a kid that feels a bit different,
all it takes is one person to see you and
to see the complete you that you can't even necessarily
see yourself at the time.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, to change everything one hundred and definitely. Jenny was
that for me and that I think drums took me
on a path, and then Jenny just like solidified that
path and then it never it never ended, and.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Then she wanted what for you?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So she after high school did a Bachelor of Music
and made it in percussion, and I wanted to do
the exact same course as her because I wanted to
do everything she did. So I wanted to study music
and major in drums. And she helped me with my
auditions to get into you need it to study music,
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and then I got in and then not too long
after that, she passed away. And then I kind of
remember wanting to go on a mission to fulfill everything
that we talked about growing up and like her us
in the practice room in high school, because she taught
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me for my whole high school. We talk about how
we're going to tour the world and we're going to
see America and we're going to live on a tour
bus and we're going to do this and all the
coolest things. So when she passed away, it was like really,
it really hit me, like holy shit, like I want
to go do everything that we talked about, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
The day that you got into your course, which those
auditions are intense. Yeah, like many are called, but few
were chosen. Yes. Who was the first person that you
called when you got in?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Ah, I think I got an email, So I remember
like screaming at home and then yeah, texting Jenny because
we went through all the drum pieces together and like,
and I knew I was going to get in because
I practiced so hard, like I was so ready for it.
But yeah, Jenny and then my family who were home
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because I just wanted to get into that course because
it was based not on academics so ye, which I
wasn't good at. So yeah, I was like.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I really really wanted to get in there and study music.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And then during that course is when I realized that
I would always sing backing vocals. But there was this
one class we had where there was too many drummers
and not enough singers. So I put my hand up
to be the lead singer. When I was I think
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I was like at nineteen or twenty, and I sang
James Brown and the university thought I was really good
that they asked me if I wanted to move over
to the singing course and the drumming course, And that
was kind of the first taste that I that I
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just didn't know.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I didn't know I could sing well.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And then that really gave me the confidence because I've
never had a lesson, so that gave me the confidence
to be like.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh, maybe I'm an alright singer. I guess that's interesting
because when I first heard about you, I was living
in Italy, and in fact it was our mutual friend
Pete Hellier who told me about it. Oh yeah, my
Collingwood brother. Yeah, you're college Wood brother. Haha. But I
was at the time thinking I don't really know many
(16:16):
singing drummers. I knew Cram from Spider Back. Yes, love Cram, Yeah,
and that because it's not really a very common model.
No it's not.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And growing up, Cram was one of the first people
I saw drumming and singing.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Oh really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And now he's a buddy of mine and we've played
some shows together, but he was kind of the first
person I ever saw on TV singing and drumming, and
that really opened up my eyes, and especially because Jenny
did backing vocals, then it made me learn and then we.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Used to practice. Jenny taught me.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
She'd make me drum and then have a conversation with her,
so I could put my body on autopilot and she'd
asked me questions.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Right, which means that later on, when you're singing, yeah,
you can drum and the lyrics will come.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, it just puts my body. My body's always on autopilot.
And basically all I'm thinking about is the singing and
remembering lyrics. My body is on autopilot. And because Jenny
taught me that from a young age, I used to
just drum while my brain's just thinking about answering questions
that she's asking me. So that split my brain kind
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of into.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And for the ADHD that would actually be really good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I love doing multiple things at once because my brain
how it works is I've got like a tab open
of like ten files in my brain that is thinking
all the time. So yeah it yeah, But CRAM and
Yeah inspired me a lot, and then yeah, I just
started writing my own music.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Then do you think that Jenny saw you? So she
saw the musical side of you. But that's a very
intimate relationship between a teacher who's taught you so much. Yes,
and like I said, sees the entire of you. What
did she say of you? When it comes to gender
(18:16):
do you think.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I think with gender back then, it wasn't in our vocabulary,
it wasn't talked about, Like not being non binary wasn't
really a thing then, but being like queer and like
being a lesbian. I think she definitely saw me because
she said. I remember her saying something to me when
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I was like I'm going to say like fourteen or something.
She's like, she said something like, one day when you're older,
like you'll figure out like who you truly are and
it's going to be so magical for you. Said something
in like in those words, and I always remember it,
and I always remember being like, what did she mean?
(19:00):
And then it wasn't until later that like I first
got with a woman for the first time, that I
was like, man, like Jenny knew me so like she
and she also said. I remember her saying, I don't
know what you're going to do with your life, but
it's going to be it's going to be something like
and it makes me like tear up when I think about.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Because it's like, oh my god. So I really feel
like she's like a guardian name do it to me
or something like that. Yeah, well she is, yeah, yeah
she is. And she was and she is because I
think when you have a relationship like that, the energy
of it stays with you. Yeah, and now you're carrying
(19:42):
her dreams as well. Yeah, like beyond beyond I would
think imagining. Did you imagine stuff for yourself?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah? I always like it's almost like I was delusional,
Like I really thought every everything was possible. I thought like,
if I wanted a drum for the biggest artists in
the world, like I can figure out a way to
make that happen. Like I always thought everything was possible,
Like there was never anything that I thought wasn't possible.
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And I don't know where I got that from, and
I don't know how that happened, but that's always how
my brain operated. So when it came to me deciding
to stop playing drums for other people, because I did
that for a while, playing drums for other bands, and
when I really decided to change gears and that I'm
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going to go for being a solo artist now, because
it was always kind of knocking at me in the
back of my head, being like, you should be a
solo artist, you should be a solo artist. But I
was always kind of hiding behind the drums and playing
for other bands.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
And session is session is like dreams for some people
as well, Like there's no shame in that. No, No,
you had the calling. What did that feel like? That calling?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I just remember when I was like fourteen fifteen, so
I always played drums, but then I started teaching myself
guitar and piano, and i'd run, I'd run home from
the school bus and before my family all came home,
I just want alone time so I could write songs.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And I'd play on.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
My little shitty cassio keyboard and my first little guitar,
and I'd just write songs. And I remember delusionally thinking
like these songs are so good, like I am such
a good songwriter, and they would be horrible songs, but
I remember the delusionalness in my brain being like encouraging
me made me thought that I was a really, really
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talented songwriter.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And I was like, these are such good songs, They're
so catchy.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And then that kept carrying on, and while I was
playing drums for other people, I was always writing songs
and then teaching myself how to produce music and record music.
So always in my head it was like, oh, it's
also the band I was playing with. We couldn't share
song ideas. It was just his songs, So then I
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couldn't have input with.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Your brilliant songs that you were writing.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, so yeah, it was always when that band, the
last band I played for, finish, then it was like,
I think it's time to do this solo thing. And
you know the way that my brain works is like
it's always possible, so we'll figure out how to get there.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's funny you say delusional, but you weren't delusional.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, but I think it's at the I find a
lot of people that I've met that have, I don't know,
become successful musicians. It's this crazy belief we have in
ourselves when we haven't even sharpened our skills yet. Like
when those like I used to think then that, oh yeah,
I'm going to be a super successful artist. But my
(23:01):
skills like I could barely sing, like could barely rock
a guitar solo, Like, my skills weren't sharpened. And now
that I'm older, I can IDENTI to buy that and
look back and be like man like the confidence I had.
The confidence was insane, and I was never outwardly arrogant
about it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I never told anyone this.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I always kept it as my little secret that I
wanted to be a solo artist.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I never shared it with anyone. Coming up after the break,
g Flip recalls the moment they went from music teacher
to music artist overnight. You knew that you were going
to get into. Was it the conservatorium? Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It was a Bachelor of Music majoring in drums.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Now you said when you were talking about that, you
knew you were going to get in because you'd worked
so hard. Yes, Now, I reckon that's a through line,
and that's the divide between people that might have some
delulu notion about what they want for their future. Yeah,
versus what makes that happen. Yeah, and your work ethic
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is phenomenal. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I do work a lot. I don't know how to
not work. Actually, it's more it's kind of unhealthy. But Yeah,
even with those auditions, I would practice, rehearse everything that
they were going to even ask me. So I'd thought
about every possible question they could ask me. So I
had rehearsed, sharp, perfected answers. And even when i'd audition
(24:43):
for bands, you'd have to audition three songs. I'd learn
their entire catalog just in case and backing vocals, so
that when I go into an audition, I could be like, Hey,
you've played those three songs all day. How about we
played this song or that song or that song. So
I think for me, I've always over prepared like so
(25:04):
so so much that it's like, if I did an audition,
like it'd be really hard to turn down. So even
with my career, I did absolutely just everything possible. So
it felt like I'd open the door in so many
avenues that at least one of the routes is going
to work.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Because I always think there's so many ways to fuck
yourself up, and there's so many ways that the external
world can trip you up as well. You don't need
to trip yourself up through lack of preparation. No, no, yeah,
And at what point did you go did you start
to feel the momentum of all of that coming together.
(25:46):
So you're singing, you're drumming, you've got the call to America.
Was there a moment where you went, oh, I think
I think g Flip's going to do this.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I think, yeah, there was definitely one defining moment.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
So after I.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Left that last band, I gave myself one year to
basically find management or a label, and I had no
connections in the Australian music scene. But I gave myself
about a year to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
So I made Excel.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Spreadsheets of the whole music industry in Australia. I had
everyone's details from Triple J, all the booking agents, Spotify, playlisters,
and I made this insane spreadsheet of the whole music industry.
And then I would I was just I was so relentless.
I was just insane, and I wanted to write my
hit list of who I wanted to be, my publicist
(26:50):
and my booking agent. And then I wrote as many
wrote and produced as many songs in my bedroom and
it's all I thought about.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
For a year.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I went sober, I didn't really see my friends. All
my friends would come over on the weekend and help
me make my spreadsheets.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I was very cute of them crafting.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And then it was I started going to all these
in the Australian music scene. They have like Music Week
in Melbourne, and they have Music Week in Sydney, and
you go listen to managers and labels talk about the
industry and I would go there, and my whole plan
was that I'm going to talk to that manager afterwards
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and give him my demos, and I'm going to talk
to that booking agent and learn more about the industry.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And I was just so obsessed with it.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And then this one manager I walked up and said, Hey,
you should listen.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
To my demos.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I'm like Dave Grohl from Nirvana, played drums in a band,
but now I'm a lead singer and I write the
music and you're going to love my demos if you
give me a shot, just have a listen. And he
looked at me and said, your confidence is so crazy.
I'm actually going to listen to your demos. And then
he listened to the demos and then sent me a
message and said, hey, come to my office Monday morning.
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And then I remember just driving my car and calling
my dad and being like holy shit, like holy shit.
And I'd worked the whole year to the point and
I got my database and I was about to blast
email everyone but my demos, but then that one manager
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heard it first, and then he wanted to sign me
for management and label. So then I took his name
and then I messaged as many people as I could
in the Australian music industry and said he wants to
sign me, so you should listen to my demos. And
then everyone that I sent them listened to my demos.
And then I just got to meet heaps of different
(28:47):
people in the music industry and kind of pick my.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Turn yourself into a bidding war.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I did, yeah, Wow, yeah, and then that all happened.
And at the same time I had my first single
about You that and I was obsessed with Triple J
on Earth, this platform, and I was a super yu.
I was so obsessed with that I would write reviews
because I knew at some stage I'm going to have
(29:14):
a single and I want to have a direct contact
that I can give my song to them. Because this
was about this is how my brain works. I wanted
every avenue to work, so even the Triple J thing,
I was a super user. And then Max Quinn I
had his email and this doesn't mean that you get
on the air, but it means you just have the
(29:34):
email of the guy that works at Triple Jay on
Earth for me to just send him and be like, hey,
I uploaded a song today. And then it was this
was the day that to answer your question that I
remember everything feeling like, holy shit, I think it's going
to work.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Is that song.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
That I uploaded to Triple Jay on Earth blew Up
and then went on the air on Triple j and
started going psycho online. And then I remember going to
bed that night, And I've documented all of this, actually,
all of this story.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I'm telling you, I'm not surprised. Yeah, there's real.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Life videos of me talking about it, but I have
a video of me going to sleep that night and
being like, holy shit. I don't think I'm going to
have to, you know, teach drum lessons anymore. And I
don't think I'm going to have to hand out pamphlets
at Rod Laver Arena anymore. Like I think I think
I've made it. Even though it was just the first
I just got a spin, but it just made me
(30:35):
think that, oh, I think I'm going to be okay
here and I'm going to be able to do this
for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So did you send a little preyer up to Jenny
at that time? Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Obviously, Jenny's always in the back of my head, and
when the song came out, it was actually.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
It was on her birthday. Oh really yeah, oh really
see that.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I get these two confused when she passed ords on
her birthday, but those dates, yeah, that was pretty special.
And yeah, and then I just woke up and then
everything changed and I had to message all because I
was teaching drum students in my bedroom and I had
to message them all and say, I'm so sorry I
(31:25):
won't be able to teach all of you anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Well you dragged them straight away. Yeah, my life changed
the next day. Wow. And like when you say changed,
what did that look like? Gigs or appointments or sessions.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So my song went viral online and it hadn't even
been released yet. It was just on Triple J on
the website, so it wasn't even a release song. I
just uploaded it to the website platform. But overnight it
went global and it became Pitchfork's Best New Song, which
is like a big deal in the US. And then
(32:03):
I started getting gig offers at south By Southwest in Texas,
which was which was in two weeks time, So I
had two weeks to find a band and then play
my first show, which luckily I'm such a freak, and
I prepared my whole entire show already, So I was
ready for that exact moment, because if I hadn't planned
(32:26):
it all out first, I would have been in trouble.
But I already had my show and my band members
and thought exactly about what my live show would be.
So then two weeks later from there, I was in
the States and playing my very first show.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And that was that, your first time in the States. No,
I'd been in the States before drumming for other bands, right,
but in your own right.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, the first time being g G Flip And then yeah,
I had my first show as g Flip and yeah,
then it began and it never stopped.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
No, it never stopped. And then concurrently with that, because
I do believe that when as an artist, particularly, the
more that you can step into yourself, the more everything
else blossoms. Yeah, and so often those things that you
grapple with about yourself or that you think you can't
(33:24):
share are the very things that give you that are
the wind in your wings. So with your I don't know,
do you say self discovery or your revelations about yourself
or your non binary thing, your what was the compulsion
then that you went, I just need to share this
(33:49):
with the famous. Hey, motherfuckers, I'm non binary.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, yeah, I guess I was overtly queer, and I
had multiple partners that i'd write songs about, and you know,
my music videos, they were very queer leaning. And then
just as I evolved as a human being, I learned
about what being and I would see like Sam Smith
(34:15):
and Demi Levado at the time, and people would come
out non binary, and I educated myself on what that was,
and then I remember like really reading and understanding it
and then being like, oh, oh my god, that's like
so me to a t. And then when I would
(34:36):
try to explain being non binary to my friends or
family members, then I would kind of use myself as
an example, and it just felt it's just so me.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I just feel so.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Non binary, and if you don't get it, it's because
you're probably not non binary. Like I just feel so
like a blend of genders. I just feel like the
most gender smoothie motherfucker ever. And I felt like that
from a very young age. I'd look at myself in
the mirror and I'd be like because I went to
Catholic school, and I'd be like, wow, God, really he
(35:13):
ran out of girl insides and brain, and I think
he just put a bit of boy brain or insides
in me because I feel like a mix. And I'm
like seven years old, eight years old thinking that, and
then to me like, that's the most non binary thing,
for most non binary thing, for seven year old to think.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
That that God made you that way.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, And obviously then there was no vocabulary for being
non binary, Like I didn't know that was a thing.
But I look back on my childhood and it just it.
Being non binary makes so much sense I've always felt.
And for every non binary person it's different where you
fall on the spectrum, but I feel pretty fifty to
fifty in the middle of like female male, mix of gender,
(36:02):
and that's the best way I can describe it. That's
just who I am, and I don't know how to
change it. So when people get in my DMS being hectic, it, yes,
can't change this.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yes, when you told your family didn't make the same
sense to them, or to your mum, or to your
dad or to your sister, who who of them was
the one that was like, yeah, I see that the most.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Probably my sister the most. I feel like my mom
and dad kind of didn't understand it because it was
quite a while ago now, so I feel like now
they're so educated on it because I'm their kid, But
back then they did struggle to understand pronouns and just
(36:50):
figure out. And I feel like for that age group,
like they're in their early sixties, so it is kind
of harder, but for them to grapple the idea of it.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I saw your dad do a kid thing actually on
sixty Minutes where he said, sometimes I miss gender them. Yeah,
so what that is? You just ask for people to
rise to meet you. Really.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, it's you know, and it's kind of a respect thing.
It's like, that's what I go by. And like, even
if you stuff it up and completely fail and stuff
up my pronouns, as long as you're like, oh fuck, sorry, ge,
and then you correct yourself or just correct yourself, like
so many of my mates will accidentally say she and
then be like they and then just keep talking and
(37:36):
you know, it's it's normal.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
After this short break, g Flip takes us inside their
relationship with wife Krishelle Don't go anywhere. How was your
meeting with Chrishchelle because at that point, so she's a
massive star in the States, yes, selling Sunset. She's had
(38:06):
romantic entanglements on that show. She's been doing it for
so long. There's no secrets about her life. Really no.
And then you two meet, you meet at a party.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, our first meet was at a Halloween party that
tones and I had.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Ah, what was your costume?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I was a skeleton and so was Krishelle. Oh really,
so that's why we have a thing with skeletons. So
I've got skeletons tattooed on my arms and our wedding
rings have skeletons on them. Oh so, yeah we met.
She was a really hot skeleton. I got my my
I literally found like some eyeliner pencil and just like
(38:54):
blacked my eyes out and found like a kid's T
shirt from Target that had bones on it and run
sleeves off. So I was a fifteen buck skeleton. She
was like, I really put together good looking skeleton.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Well she is a very good looking. She's yeah, she's
insane looking. And from the moment you met the skeletons, like,
what was that moment you were introduced to each other,
or you went up and you talked to her, or
she came up to you. Can you remember your encounter
your skeleton encounter. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
First time we met was one of Tone's best mates.
Talia was at the front of this venue and was like, oh, gee,
come over, meet Kroschelle. And then I was like all right,
and then I just came over and we shook hands
and I said hey and she said hey, and then
I was like, like, you're real, like a really good
(39:49):
looking skeleton and I'm not so good looking skeleton. But
it wasn't like romantic or anything. It was just like
a friend group meeting a friend group. It wasn't until
like six months later or something that then some sparks
flew yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Which is was I mean, probably more straightforward for you
at that time than it was for her because she
didn't think that she was gonna be a lesbian or no. Right,
she was straight as far as she knew and maybe
(40:28):
Stille's but loves who she loves.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, she doesn't really know what to call herself, Like
the word is really pan sexual, and when you're pans sexual,
you're just attracted to energy. It's not really a gender,
it's the person. But she personally hates the word pans.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
It is it's sort of hard to casually toss toss
that in.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, it's a kind of ugly word. So she's like, no,
I don't want to identify as that. So she just
says like she falls in love with energy and people
and who they are, and I guess you know that's
the case with us. And yeah, we've been together now
over three years.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
And that's amazing because I love I've heard you tell
the story about when you asked her out after you'd
had a couple of you know, encounters, and she said,
I'm really sorry, ye I'm straight.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yes she did, but you were like, I just thought, well,
we haven't been been very straight together recently, That's what
I thought. Like the last few times we've had little
kisses here and there that wasn't very straight, darling, But yeah,
that's what I thought. But I just said, oh, okay,
(41:48):
no worries. And then a few like a week after,
I sent her some houses that I was because she's
a real estate agent and I was going to try
rent a house in La after tour my tour finished,
So I sent her some houses and I was like,
is this a good price range for where it is
in the location and whatever, And then she offered to
(42:13):
come and look at the houses with me, and then
that was our first date. A did you know at
the time it was a date or it was only
in retrospect. I think I knew it was a because yeah,
in my head, she just told me she was straight
and not interested. And then when I rocked up to
(42:34):
the house, I was in the car and I looked
out the window and saw her walking down the road
to the house and she was like adjusting her face
makeup or something and looking incredible, Like I knew she'd
taken time to get ready. And she remembers like in
(42:55):
her words, she would say like when she was getting
ready that day, she was getting ready like she was
going to meet someone that she had a crush on,
like took that extra time and tried on different dresses
and no, not this. And so then that's kind of
when it clicked in her brain. And I think it
clicked in mind because I was looking at like her
walking down the street looking like an absolute fox. And
(43:18):
then also just like she was doing something like putting
lip stuff on or something. And then we were just
at this house showing and we were just flirted the
whole time, and then it never the flirting never.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Ended, and it still hasn't ended, even though now you're
an old married couple. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, we do a wedding once a year. We reknew
our vows. It kind of started because our first wedding
was so shotgun. We married after three months kind of dating,
which I think a lot of the world think we
got married like a year later, when really we.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Got We kept it a secret because yeah, we got married.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Like three months after we started fully kind of dating.
And then obviously we called our family and we decided
the day of because we worked out we both had
the day off the next day, so then we ended
up deciding to go to Vegas and get married. Anyway,
we called all our friends and family and they were
(44:22):
all kind of like, what do you mean, Like they
were very happy for us, but they were sad they
were missing it. So we said, don't worry, we're going
to do another one.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Like so, then we're going to do another one.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
So then the next one was in Palm Springs so
that our friends in LA could come, and then my
family's like, but we can't make it, so we're like, yeah, okay,
we'll do another one. So then we did another one
in Australia with all my family, and then this year
we had other friends that missed out, so then we
were like, Okay, we'll do it, and then it just became.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
The Wedding World Tour.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
So now we do a wedding every year, and you know,
we're covering the base of a big wedding, which we
probably that most people have with over one hundred guests.
We're just slowly getting to all one hundred guests world War.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Ten at a time. Yes, and what like your last
one was it? It was medieval? Was it then medieval?
And you are were you a knight? I don't know
what I was? Yeah, what were you? Was it a
costume shop or was it? No? So arn't directed?
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, no, So all our weddings are planned one week
in advance or less because our whole thing with weddings
is we don't want to be stressed because we hate
stress for weddings and it should be our love.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
So everything is so last minute planned.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
So really I had to just look on Amazon and
see what could get delivered in time, and I bought.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
What was the description? What was the description of the costume?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Some like Renaissance medieval royal coat? Yeah, And then and
then I bought a sort. I like the thought of
having a sword that was called to me, So I
bought a foam sword and a a sword holder, and
then I wore some of Krashelle's like leggings from her
fitness and then I just wore these boots that I'm
(46:16):
wearing right now.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
It was gorgeous. It was a bit Zelderish too.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, it was a bit fantasy, and when I'm like
into that stuff. It was kind of a joke, like
it was a week out from when we're meant to
be getting married, because we always have to do it
in July, and I think it was Kroshelle was just like,
what was if we did a medieval wedding, and I
just looked at it. I was like, oh my god,
that's so funny, Like we should get a loop player.
(46:43):
And then H's like, we should get people who fight
with swords, and we just were making each other laugh.
And then we happened to look on Airbnb and there
was a castle around the corner that you could hire
just as an Airbnb. So then we were like, all right,
let's book it and then let's find some people to
fight with some swords.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
You jousted, You jousted like you've barely jousted and in
the relationship between the two of you is very lovely,
and the happiness between you is you know, it's when
you talk before about trolls and stuff, I'm like, partly,
I'm like, who can be bothered trolling in the face
(47:26):
of what is objectively pure happiness?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, still happens. Still, people think, still think that our
relationships fake, and we find that funny because God, we
hang out all the time. Imagine having a pr relationship
having to hang out with each other all day.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
And especially especially in Hollywood, because have you noticed as
an Australian I think part of the reason they love
you is that you've got this really authentic, almost kind
of old fashioned Australian energy, you know, Alarican and a
bit relaxed and have a laugh instead of getting angry
and being open instead of close the doors. So that
(48:11):
to Hollywood must have been a shock.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, I think I think honestly, just Krishelle not being
with a man was the biggest shock. I think that
really took Americans. And you know a lot of the
selling Sunset fan base isn't you know in states where
it's you know, really common to have queer relationships like
Middle America's very like you know, tradition. It's yeah, it's
(48:38):
trad it's like so it was really shocking to see
her in a not with like a six foot man, you.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Know, like it was.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
It really made people crazy, and especially at that time
when we came out public in a relationship, like the
dms and just the the things that you just I
just couldn't believe how much it affected people's days. Like,
you know, there'd be a Karen in Middle America just
(49:07):
sweeping and then they'd be just so angry and then
they'd have to get on their phone to like message
me because they're just so furious that.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
I'm with her. So yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
It was very eye opening to me about how people
are homophobic or you.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Know, scared or fearful, fearful of things, because I think
fear and anger live kind of close to each other.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, it was really interesting and it still happens, to
be honest, I'm still getting dms that people are so
upset with my gender or that I'm with Koshelle, or
that I'm queer, or you know, people are just they're
angry at it. But it really just you know, in
the end. It kind of does amuse me that someone
is literally driving to the shops to buy some cereal
(49:56):
and bread and milk and they just have to pull
the car over to like message me how angry angry
they are, Like, what a crazy way to live. You
know that you're just ticked off by someone exists, But.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
What you continue to do in the face of that
is exist even more fully.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, one, you know, I would never dull myself down.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
And by the way, on an unrelated note, I was
also doing the project the night Krischelle came in, which
was not long ago. Oh my goodness that the response
to her was so beautiful, just so beautiful. Yeah, she's
she's a great one. I know, I've really lucked out.
(50:47):
She's an Arab.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
When my family found out, like we're seriously going to
be together, it wasn't just like a little fling. They
all cried. They were like because they just thought she
was the best person they ever met.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
So, you know, because Chrischelle's just spoken recently and I've
heard you speak before too about and Krishelle's always been
really open about the fact that she wants to have babies. Yes,
and recently she came out and said that that wasn't
working out so well.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, the last few years, to be honest, it's an IVF.
It's been a real struggle and we've had so many, gods,
so many ups and downs. And for anyone that goes
through that whole process, like, it really takes a toll.
And there's you know, hopeful moments and then sad moments,
and then there's a little bit of hope and then
(51:42):
it all backfires and then it's going starting again. So yeah,
it's definitely been uh And the hormones. The hormones are
rough hormones. And the amount of needles, like it's crazy.
And surgeries and she's such a baller though. Whenever Krishelle
has surgeries or has to go through anything where the
(52:06):
doctor might give you pain medication, majority of the time
she doesn't even take the medication. She's just a baller,
Like her pain tolerance is insane. Like, so she's such
a tough cookie. And you know, I admire, I admire
just everything and how strong she is and how she's
taking all, you know, the news that we get and
(52:27):
she's just she's so amazing, and she's such a brilliant
and strong human being. For everything she's gone through, not
only with this whole process we're going through, but also
her whole life, Like her story is pretty amazing. What
she's got through to get to where she has. Her
childhood was nothing like you would think, and it's completely
(52:50):
the opposite. So I just admire every everything about her
and where she's come from.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
You're very yin and yang. You know there's something together
that's so whole. With the two of you together. I
hope you're I hope your every dream comes true together
because you were delightful and individually. Thank you for your
gift of music and really being a great ambassador for Australia,
(53:21):
which life not every Australian is. But I truly believe
that your spirit and you get up and go is
just glorious. That's very sweet. That's going to make me cry.
The future is a big place. You have to narrow
it down slightly to what is coming up. It's dream Ride.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yes, album's coming out September fifth. It's called dream Ride.
It's a very eighties esque kind of album. I went
really hard into the eighties world sonically, with like big
reverb on the drums, and you know every drum is
me playing it and a lot of sax solos and
synth solos, and yeah, I'm really excited to release this
(54:04):
record on September fifth.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
We look forward to seeing you very much.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Yes, So I'm coming back to Australia late feb and
March to play shows in Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth.
And I can't wait to come and play shows. Playing
shows is my favorite part about my job, and I
spend a lot of time trying to make my live
show as good as possible. And I've been working on
it the last week and yeah, it's going to be
(54:30):
a ripper. So I can't wait and hope hopefully some
people come out to see me. It's going to be good.
Oh I think they will. Jenny's brother comes to my
shows and they have a little girl who's a huge
G Flip fan, their little daughter, so Jenny's niece.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
So it's very very cute.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
And my last show I played in Melbourne, Jenny's brow
and his wife came to that show and they gave
me a pair of Jenny's last drumsticks, which is really special.
Really yeah, yeah, it was really niceh Just the power
of a teacher I know, and that's what me beat
want to be a drum teacher. So then I followed
(55:12):
in her, and then when she passed, I took over
a lot of her drum students as well.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
And then you drop them to be Jefly now, and
then I became Jefly. Then I couldn't teach them anymore.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
But yeah, so yeah, Jenny's a big part and I
have Jenny related tattoos all over my body too.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
You deserve everything good? And also what did you take?
What do you take to Kara Delvine's party? What was
in that big box? What was it? What was it?
Do you want to know? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (55:45):
I was like, I was literally like, this is really funny.
I'll Kara in bind me to the party. And I
texted her and I was like, I'm getting you. I'm
going to get you a real strange present. She's like
I can't wait looking forward to it. And then I
was thinking, what do you get a girl that has
it all, like she's got everything?
Speaker 1 (56:04):
What do you get her?
Speaker 2 (56:05):
And I was like, I bet she doesn't own bagpipes?
So that photo were present, there's bagpipes?
Speaker 1 (56:17):
This yeah, yeah, all right, I guarantee you something and
that is that you g Flip will learn to play
them before she does.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Do you know what when I bought her the bagpipes,
I might have bought myself some pipes too, Yeah, but
she loved them.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
She thought they were great. Oh that's great, that's great. Well,
god speed to you. Thanks for joining us on no Filter.
Thank you for showing yourself. Ah, thank you so much, Kate.
I remember driving from Dingley.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Village to Cheltenham to go to school every morning and
listening to you in the car and your voice has
always been such a calming, warm energy. So that's where
I tear up, because you're like always grown up with
you at round.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
So I love it. I love you es Kate, Okay,
I love you two, kre. I think to know g
Flip is to love g Flip because, like I said
to them in our chat, there's something quintessentially Australian about them,
(57:27):
a sense of mischief, a sense of joy, a sense
of she'll be right, but also so cool, so themselves,
so talented. G Flip has really done it all, from
chart topping jams to the emotional rollercoaster of IVF. They
(57:50):
fell hard and fast for Chrishelle along the way and
are really making it work. And I think there's magic
in someone who lives their life full volume and flips
the script at every turn, or should I say g
flips the script. Make sure you subscribe to No Filter
because the world needs more voices like this and we
(58:13):
deserve to hear them. The executive producer of No Filter
is Nama Brown, the senior producer is bre Player. Audio
production is by Jacob Brown and video editing is by
Josh Green. This episode was recorded with Session in Progress
Studios and I'm your host, Kate Laine Brook. Thank you
(58:33):
so much for listening.
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