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Solomonster reviews the Thanksgiving Eve edition of AEW Dynamite with Full Gear fallout and the start of the Continental Classic!  And if you're NOT a fan of the C2, then this was not the episode for you. 😂

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Tonight was the Thanksgiving Eve episode of AW Dynamite. Turkey
Day is almost here. Getting ready for all that food.
I'm getting a headache just thinking about it. I have
two Thanksgiving feasts on Thursday and Friday. I'm already dreading.
I'm already dreading all the food I'm gonna be eating.
But before we got there, we had Dynamite Tonight coming

(00:21):
out of Full Gear, and as we are heading into
the month of December, it is also the beginning of
the Continental Classic. I believe this is the third year
in a row that they are doing this tournament, and
tonight was almost entirely dedicated to the Continental Classic. We
had a whole series of matches here with one women's
tag team titled Tournament Match sprinkled in along with a

(00:45):
Samoa Joe promo. Having just beat Hangman Page to win
the AW World Championship at Full Gear, it only made
sense that we would hear from Joe here on this show.
I don't like how we got no explanation from Hook
why he did what he did, or how far back
this plan goes. Of course, we saw Hook on Saturday

(01:06):
come out and factor directly into the finish, assisting Joe
and winning the championship. We didn't really get much out
of him tonight. We flat out had Eddie Kingston in
a backstage promo say I'm not addressing hook. I'm not
addressing the hook thing tonight. So they didn't get into
any of that stuff, and we have no idea at

(01:27):
all whatsoever as far as what direction they are going
in next. For Chris Statlander, coming off of her Women's
World Championship win over Mercedes Monet, she was on the
show briefly in a backstage segment. They gave no indication
of where she is headed next, So we have no idea.
Now me personally, you know, I'm a fan of the

(01:47):
Continental Classic. I know not everybody is. Typically you're not
going to get a whole lot in the way of
story with it. If you look at the way that
the leagues are put together this year, definitely more story
or more story potential in this year's tournament, probably than
any of the ones they've done so far. So we

(02:08):
know that in the Gold League, we have Darby Allen,
we have Pack, we have Kevin Knight, Speedball, Mike Bailey,
Kyle Fletcher and kazuchko O Kada. We just saw Pack
pick up a win at full gear over Darby, so
it stands to reason that at some point here in
the Gold League Darby will likely get his win back

(02:28):
over Pack. But that's the Gold League. It also means
that Okata is going to have to wrestle Kyle Fletcher, right,
we knew that, and we had that tonight. But as
soon as it was announced, we knew those two we're
gonna have to wrestle Speedball and Kevin Knight, They're gonna
have to wrestle each other as well. Of course they're
tag team partners. On the Blue League side, we have

(02:48):
Kenoski Takeshta, John Moxley, Claudio Cassignoli, Orange Cassidy, Roderick Strong
taking the place of the injured Kyle O'Reilly injured. I'm
not sure it's any sort of legitimate injury, but they're
claiming that coming out of his match with John Moxley,
he's too beat up to be a participant in the tournament.

(03:09):
So Roddy ends up getting his spot and Mascuroderata. So
you look at the Blue League and the thing that
stands out like neon lights flashing lights, is that Moxley
and Claudio are going to have to wrestle each other,
and now we know that that match is going to
be taking place next week. And I look at these

(03:29):
two leagues, and for me, the Gold League is the
superior of the two leagues. I mean, I look at
the Gold League in the Blue League here, I'm a
Gold League guy. But this tournament we talk about story,
story threads. Here in this tournament, everything is primed and
set up for a finals confrontation between Okada and Takeshta,

(03:51):
which is the story that honestly is my favorite on
aw television now for the past few months, and they've
taken the slow burn approach with it. Everything is building
and building, and it seems to be building. I mean,
I've been saying this for a few months now. Everything
would seem to be building for the finals of this tournament.
Right they're in opposing leagues. We know that the finals,

(04:12):
actually the finals of each league and the finals of
the entire thing are taking place at World's End, So
that's coming up on December twenty seventh, that's about a
month away. Everything needs to be building to Okata and Takeshda,
which makes things very predictable. It does, but that's okay.
If the story is there and you're building up to

(04:32):
a match that people want to see, that's fine. What
we actually got on the show tonight were a couple
of upsets to in my opinion, a couple of upsets
here in this tournament. And it's only the first night.
So we'll get into what those were, and then we'll
get through your super chat questions and get you on
out of here for the holiday. But thank you for
spending your Thanksgiving Eve with me. It is Wednesday, November

(04:56):
twenty sixth, twenty twenty five. This is your aw Dynamite
Thanksgiving Eve review. I am the Solemn Monster, celebrating eighteen
years of the sound off all November long. As we
wind down, we only got one more live stream left
to go, that Survivor series coming up this weekend. Because
I will not be here on Friday, can subscribe. Like

(05:17):
I said, super chats are open. I will be reading
your messages in a little bit, so we're going to
get on into that and then we'll get you on
out of here. So let's start from the top, because
we kicked off the Continental Classic with Gold League Action
here on the show tonight with two members of the
Don Kallis family, we had Kazuchka Okada. Now this is

(05:39):
where it gets a little messy. So we know that
Okata beat Kenny Omega to become the first ever unified champion,
and in so doing he unified the International title and
the Continental title to form the unified Championship, which we
were told at the time does not mean that the
International title and the Continental title retired. In fact, their

(06:02):
lineage lives on, according to Tony Kahn. So in theory,
all these months have gone by, Okata could defend any
of those championships individually. Now of course he didn't and
he's not going to. So he's had this unified title.
But now the Continental Classic is here, and we see

(06:25):
the Continental Championship is sitting on top of the announced
desk at ringside. So we have Okada and we have
Kyle Fletcher, two members of the Kallus family who are
gonna go one on one here. Don Kallis is on
commentary at ringside. Now, they make it very clear in
these matches there is no outside interference. Managers are not

(06:47):
allowed at ringside. But the loophole is that Callous sometimes
does commentary, so they allow him at ringside to do commentary. Now,
it's less of a concern, I guess here in a
match like this because both men have happened to be
a part of his family, which is not hard to
believe because he's got a million members of his family.
But still it's a little bit of a loophole. That's

(07:09):
kind of dumb, don't you think. I mean, either people
are allowed at ringside or they're not. They should not
be making exceptions for anyone. But the continental title is
sitting right there on top of the announced desk, and
this tournament is not for the Unified Championship, and they
made that clear. It's for the Continental title, which means
that if Okada does not win this tournament, there is

(07:31):
no longer a unified Championship. That belt goes away because
let's say Takeshta wins the tournament, Takesha would be the
new Continental champion. Okada would just be the International champion
because that title still lives on He even walked out
with it to the ring tonight. But the Continental title
and the International title would effectively replace the Unified Championship,

(07:55):
which would be on the back burner at least temporarily.
This is all very convoluted and very unnecessary. And I
said as much when they introduced this championship. I say
it whenever they introduce any new championship in this company.
They just introduced the national Championship, which really serves the
purpose that the international title originally served in this company

(08:18):
before they got away from you know, doing defenses overseas
and and other promotions. But this is what happens when
you know, you have Tony Kahan who has a belt
fetish and can't help himself, and he's introducing this belt
and this belt and this belt and this belt. You
end up with a tournament here where things are just
more convoluted than they need to be, you know, and

(08:39):
there's any number of things, namely, you know, you can
have a shot at the World Championship. And when they
first introduced this tournament, I talked about this is three
years ago. This is not new stuff. I'm not going
to relitigate that. But like watching that and listening to
them explain it, like I get what they're saying, but
it's still unnecessarily convoluted. The whole thing is just very stupid.

(09:00):
So anyway, Okada reached out for a handshake at the bell.
They both tried to kick each other during the handshake,
and they ended up holding each other's legs, so they
worked through some counters. In reversals, slapped hands to show
some respect to each other. After some back and forth,
Okada teased a slap to the chest, but he pulled
back and he landed a kick. Fletcher, though very quickly

(09:22):
hit the ropes and fired back with a tackle. Okada
he crouched Fletcher in the corner by shoving the referee
into the ropes with his foot, and then he dropped
kicked him off the ropes and out to the floor.
That took us into a commercial, so Fletcher returned the
favor by shoving the referee into the ropes and causing
Okada to crosh himself. Then he jumped to the top

(09:43):
rope he delivered a superplex. Later on in the match,
Okada rolled to the outside. Fletcher pursued him and got
tripped on the apron, and Okada quickly delivered a DDT
from the apron to the floor. He then took the
action back into the ring. Okada delivered a tombs stone
pile driver. Fletcher recovered, though countered into a Mitchiinoku driver

(10:06):
could not make a cover though, and at this point
we got the time call from Justin Roberts fifteen minutes
five remaining because these matches have twenty minute time limits. Again,
he get three points for a win, no points if
you don't win. So Fletcher picked up Okada. Then he
lawn darted him into the middle turn buckle in the corner.

(10:28):
He followed that up with a lagerbomb, covered for a
close near fall. Fletcher attempted a brainbuster. Okada slipped out though,
and he gouged the eyes. He went for a rain maker. Fletcher, though,
countered into a roll up pin and he got the
wind with the flash pin. Kyle Fletcher picks up the
win here and after the match was over, Fletcher offered

(10:48):
a handshake. Okada was teasing the flip off, but instead
he put the hand in for the handshake and Callous
was all smiles and he got in the ring and
he held up both men's arms celebrated with both of them.
This was a very good match. Hot start here to
the tournament, with Fletcher now beating Okada back to back

(11:09):
years in the Continental Classic because they had a match
on Collision one year ago and Fletcher beat Okada. Then
so here we are in twenty twenty five, history repeats itself.
Fletcher is also coming off a loss at full gear.
He lost his TNT championship to Mark Briscoe, so this
was a big way to get him back in the

(11:30):
win column with a win over somebody who's not undefeated.
But Okata has been largely protected, you know, in the
time that he has been in this company. I mean
you think he's beginning of next year, he'll be going
on what two years, I think two full years is
a full time performer in this company. And you could
probably count the number of losses that he has taken,
if not on one hand, definitely on two and still

(11:53):
have fingers left over. So he's very well protected. When
he gets beat, it does feel like it means something.
It'll mean more to Fletcher being able to, you know,
pick up a win like that, no harm to Okada.
We know that Okada is going to the finals. Is
he gonna win? Is he gonna lose? We can you

(12:13):
know talk about that. I think ta Kesha this should
be his tournament to lose. But regardless we know what
the final is going to be. Anything other than Okada
and Takesha in the finals. To me, would be ridiculous.
So it's predictable. So what do you do? This is
one of the things that you can do. You could
shake things up a little bit by giving people an

(12:34):
outcome that a lot of fans probably wouldn't be expecting. Now,
all of a sudden, Okada, who's the favorite to at
least go to the finals, is now fighting from behind. Right,
you give him a little bit of adversity. Now he's
got to, you know, fight his way back because the
points went to the other guy. So I like that
they started the tournament with, you know, an upset win
right out of the gate. They gave you what I

(12:56):
would consider to be an upset win. But this was
a very good match. At backstage, Lexi and Air was
talking to Kenny Omegan, who popped out of his dressing room,
and she asked if it's safe to say that after
the events of Full Gear that he and the Young
Bucks have been reunited, and Omega said that we've seen

(13:19):
him do things that he's not proud of, and he's
been fooled by Don Kallus before also right, as have
the Bucks, So he would be a fool not to
take that into account with where he and the Young
Bucks stand, and if his friends are willing to accept
him and the fans are willing to accept him for
who he is after all that he's done, who is

(13:39):
he to say that the Bucks don't deserve a second chance.
That's all he had to say. And he retreated back
into his dressing room, and maybe five seconds go by
and the door swings open again, and who comes out
but the Young Bucks, and Lexi has a very confused
look on her face as the Bucks say, oh, excuse me,

(14:00):
and they just walk away. I'm not sure why she
was so confused in this moment, because she literally led
the interview off by asking Kenny Omega, is it safe
to assume that you guys are reunited and back on
the same page. So I'm not sure why she had
this confused expression on her face. But that was the
extent to which we had any sort of, you know,

(14:22):
follow up to what we saw on Saturday, where we
did have an elite reunion at the end of that
million dollar match, which ended up being by the way,
the million dollars that they made such a big deal
about in that match that technically you know the Bucks
won and then you know Hatchisaro was walking it. They
stole the money back at Hetches. Sarah is walking around

(14:42):
with the money at the end of the pay per view.
Total non factor. We'll see if it gets brought up
on Collision because they're taping Collision, which is airing tomorrow night.
But the million dollars, which is supposed to be a
big deal, was a total non factor. So we got
highlights of the TNT title match of Full Gear with

(15:03):
Mark Briscoe finally beating Kyle Fletcher, and we go to
Briscoe who is sitting in a chair backstage, still bloody,
fresh off the match. He's got his brand new TNT
Championship and he says that he lost the most important
thing to him, his brother, his other half. It's been

(15:27):
a long road since then, not knowing if he would
want to continue wrestling without him, should I even keep
doing this, But he realized that he had to do
it for family. Says this title is for not only
his real family, but his road family as well, the conglomeration.
It's also for Delaware and then he looks up but
he says that this is for Jay and you know

(15:50):
he have a little bit more to say to it
than that, but that was kind of the gist of it.
I thought this was the hell of a promo, just
very heartfelt. He wasn't acting all wacky and goofy and
crazy like he normally does and over the top. They
shot this immediately after the match on Saturday, and it
was just a very short, to the point, heartfelt Babyface promo.

(16:11):
So I thought this was good. And again, where he
goes from here, we don't know. There's a lot we
don't know as far as where certain champions and certain
people are going coming out of full gear. They didn't
have time to address all of it. I think they
still should have addressed some of it more than they did,
given that this was the first big show coming out
of the pay per view. But again, they're taping Collision,

(16:33):
which is airing tomorrow and we'll see if they shed
any more light on that. We had a semi final
round match and the women's tag team title tournament, two
tournaments at once. We have here, we have a women's tournament,
we have the Continental Classic. Wouldn't shock me, by the way,
if next year we get a women's Continental Classic. I'm

(16:57):
gonna make that prediction. Now, but we had Willow Nightingale
and Harley Cameron against the sisters of Sin Julia Hart
and sky Blue Heart and Blue. They delivered a double
team pancake to Harley Cameron, but Willow pulled Julia to
the floor and then tossed her into the barricade. While
Harley regained control inside the ring, Julia created a distraction

(17:20):
so sky Blue could deliver a neck breaker, and that
took us into a commercial break. Now, after the break,
Julia walked the rope. She delivered a flying forearm. Harley
desperately reached for the tag. She got the tag to Willow.
Sky Blue made a blind tag. She waited for Willow
to land a spinebuster to then make a surprise ambush

(17:40):
Heart and Blue. They delivered double kicks front and back
to Willow, and sky Blue covered only for a two count.
Willow fired back with a double suplex and then Harley
tagged in and she ended up down as Julia went
up for her moon saw. Now, Julia Hart has a
great looking moon saw. It's very smooth as she's sailing

(18:01):
through the air. The problem in this case was she
came down for the moon salt and she completely overshot
Harley Cameron. There was nobody there, so Harley is laying
here and Julia went a little past her, and then
she tried to compensate because she realized she fucked up,
so she kind of pops up, not even to her feet,

(18:24):
almost to like her knees, and she immediately pops up
and then sort of flopped onto her with a with
like a little diving elbow, just to try to salvage
the spot. This was very embarrassing. I mean, look, shit happens,
but this did, this did not This did not look
good here. So Willow ends up getting a blind tag.

(18:47):
Harley lands a backstabber on sky Blue, while Willow delivers
a doctor bomb to Julia for the wind. I don't know.
Maybe Julia saw somebody, maybe you know John cenasted in
a few weeks, maybe he's making the rounds. Maybe she
saw John Cena laying there, and I don't know. She

(19:07):
overshot her target, but Willow and Harley pick up the win.
It got a little messy, and not even just the
moon salt spot, like in the immediate aftermath of the
Moon salt spot. It just got a little messy here
at the end. I thought it was solid enough though
on the whole, so Willow and Harley. They advanced to
the finals, they're going to face either Tony Storm and

(19:29):
Mina Shirakawa baby Faces against Babyface, or they'll be wrestling
Megan Bain and Marina Shafir. I could see this going
either way. Now. I made a prediction on my end
at the beginning of all this that Tony Storm and
Mina shira Cow would win the women's tag team titles.
A couple of big names, especially Tony. I mean, Tony

(19:50):
is the biggest name in the women's division. You put
those titles on the two of them. They don't have
a whole lot going on right now. I'm not saying
they need it. They don't need I mean it's not like,
oh they don't win these titles, My god, what are
they gonna do? But right now they don't have anything
going on right They had championships of their own, they
both lost them. They found each other, So it stands

(20:11):
to reason that they would stand tall at the end
of this tournament, right two big names in that division
be the first women's tag team champions, and then whoever
they drop those titles to, whoever they feud with and
they drop those belts to later on whenever they lose them,
would hopefully, you know, be better off for having beaten
Tony Storm and Mina Shirakawa. That's kind of my logic

(20:33):
behind them winning this tournament. Willow Nightingale and Harley Cameron
could very easily win this tournament because the fans like them.
I mean, Willow is Willow's awesome. Harley is great, right,
very likable, very charismatic, so is Willow. I don't have
any issue with any of them winning this tournament. I'm

(20:55):
gonna stick with my prediction. Even though Tony Amina they
won the four way at full gear, so they won
the right to pick a stipulation for their match against
Megan baineam Marina Shafir, which I'll get to you later,
and that makes it a little less likely that they're
gonna come out on top of that match, But I'm
sticking with them. I'm still picking them to win the tournament. Now.

(21:16):
After this, Tony Shavanni was in the ring. Wait, by
the way, wait until we get to the stipulation for
that match. Gee, I wonder what kind of stipulation they're
gonna pick for that match. In this tournament. I'll give
you a hint. If you've been watching AW television for
the past two weeks, it should be pretty easy to
figure out what kind of match it's gonna be. Tony

(21:38):
Shavanni was in the ring after a break to introduce
the brand new two time AW World Champion and still
one third of the Trios Champions. He's a double champion.
He had gold over both shoulders. Samoa Joe out to
the ring with Powerhouse Hobbs and Katiori Shabaham. Joe immediately

(22:00):
swipes the microphone away from Shavanni, tells him tonight is
his celebration, so don't ruin it and take your He'll
billy ass out of here. So before Joe could say
anything else, they cut to outside the venue and we
see Swerve Strickland. He pulls up. I don't think he
was driving. It was Prince Nana who was driving. He

(22:23):
pulls up in an suv outside and Nana tells him
go get him boss, and he's got a staple gun,
his favorite weapon of choice. So Swerve is walking into
the building and that's when all of a sudden, you
see Hangman at him. Page shows up and joins him,
and now he's walking into the building as well, and

(22:44):
he has a chain in his hand, and I'm not
gonna lie. I mean, the sight of the two of
them now is allies side by side walking into the
building Like that was pretty cool. So the two of
them walk backstage in the ring. Joe, who sees all
of this happening, he tells Shabata go get the scrubs,

(23:04):
and moments later, Shabata brings out the members of the
Ops Dojo to the ring. So this is why when
I talk about these shows and I talk about the
security geeks on Saturday, I talked about the the Ops
Dojo geeks, it's because that's what they are. Like Joe
himself is calling them scrubs. I call them geeks. He

(23:25):
calls them scrubs. That's their role, that's their job on
the show. Their job is to show up and get
their asses handed to them. So you already knew what
was coming. So Shabata returns. He's got all of the
Dojo geeks with him in the ring now, and the
Ops Dojo guys are surrounding the ring. As Joe says

(23:49):
that everything went according to plant Shabata, he nullified Eddie
Kingston and Hobbs showed off his feats of strength all
the way to me, musclebustering Hangman in the middle of ring.
The simpletons here in the crowd won't understand what went down.
So here's a video package on how we got here.
So they cut to a video package of Hook and

(24:12):
how he started running with Eddie Kingston and showing the
run in where Hook had a little run in many
many weeks ago, with Joe and Hobbs backstage with the
Hook telling Joe I'll always have your back, and then
Hook turning on Hangman at full gear, helping Joe win
the championship. So Joe said that was some of his
best work and now the fans can have a champion

(24:32):
worthy of being called the greatest in this industry. So
Joe introduces Hook, who comes out to his terrible music.
And I will say this now that he's a heel.
This crooner music that he has awful as it is
for as a wrestling theme song. It's just fucking terrible.

(24:53):
I mean, I'm not saying that sitting around, you know,
sipping a latte at home reading the newspaper. It's not
a bad song. To have play in the background. But
as far as a wrestling entrance theme is concerned, it sucks.
But now that he's a heel, it's a little bit
better than it was at when he was a babyface
coming out to it, because now it just fits a

(25:14):
little bit better as far like this smug, helish persona
that he has now, but it's still terrible, like it's
just absolutely awful. So Hook comes out, he hugs the ops.
Hook said that Joe was right. All these rednecks are
too stupid to realize that he's the greatest second generation
wrestler this business has ever seen. That's about all we

(25:36):
got out of Hook here. Now we can listen to
Joe and we can watch the little video package and
deduce that this was a plan all along, right, But
even so, it would have been nice to hear a
little bit more from Hook, given how important his role
was in the pay per view on Saturday. We didn't
get much out of him here until Swerves new music

(25:57):
hits and they show him and he's coming through the crowd,
and I guess, as they say, he's Aura farming, that's
what he's doing. As he's slowly walking through the crowd,
we have swerved Aura Farming as he makes his way
out to the ring. Meanwhile, Hangman's music follows, and then
they show him. He's at the bar. They're in one
of these small they were in Nashville, I believe tonight.

(26:21):
It might have been some kind of music hall. It
was a small venue and there's like a little bar
in the back. So of course Hangman's at the bar
and he downs a shot and he proceeds to make
his way through the crowd. Now, so they start wasting
different members of the dojo, well, the dojo geeks. They're

(26:44):
taking them out with their various weapons, the staple gun
and the chain. Hangman actually had a beer bottle and
he smashed the beer bottle over one of their heads.
And whoever this geek was, he took this incredible bump
where he just it was like a delayed bump where
like a tree falling, and he just slowly fell down

(27:06):
face first on the floor outside. So that was great.
He splatted on the ground. So Page and Strickland they
rushed the ring. Of course, the ops bails and there's
two dojo dorks who are left behind, and they get
chains wrapped around their necks. They get thrown over the
top rope. Hangman is hanging one of them, Swerve is

(27:28):
hanging the other one as they're looking at Joe and
the Ops on stage, who were watching all of the
mayhem that is unfolding in front of them, and that's
what brought the segment to a close. You know, Can
I just say this, I didn't mention this on Saturday,
but just watching what Swerve has done so far since

(27:48):
coming back, it is kind of ridiculous that the last
time that we saw Swerve Strickland before he went away,
he was injured storyline, injured right by the don Kallis family. Right,
whether it was Okada or Wardlow, whatever it was, it

(28:09):
was the Callous family that was in storyline responsible for
Swerve Strickland being on the shelf and needing surgery and
being out for a few months. And then the first
time that we see Swerve back on TV, he's not
going after the Callous family. He's coming out and going
after the ops. Same thing tonight. He's out there, he's

(28:31):
got his staple gun and he's going after the ops. Now,
why wouldn't he be going after the Callous family since
they're the ones that took him out in the first place.
They're the ones that laid him up on the shelf.
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see him back and It's a big you know, get
for Tony Kahan as far as big names that have
been out being able to get him back and having
him right away basically in the world title picture would

(31:00):
have been no harm in having him come back and
you know, try to take a measure of revenge on
one of the many members of the Kallis family, whoever
it was, and then transition him back into the world
title picture. But he's he's in the world title picture now,
and you know that's the big question. Now we have
World's End coming up on December twenty seventh, so we

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know the Continental Classic finals are going to be there,
but like, what's the title match going to be? Are
they just going to set up for another match, a
third match, because now they're you know one and one
between Samoa Joe and Hangman Page. It's so where does
Swerve fit into all this? To Swerve just wrestle you know,
powerhouse hobs, Like, what does he do? Because to go

(31:42):
to Swerve and Joe really doesn't make any sense because
Swerve hasn't even wrestled the match in months. You know,
what has he done to earn a shot at the
World Championship. He's got to get some w's under his
belt first. That hasn't happened yet, so I'm not sure
who's getting that match hang Right now, it would appear
to be Hangman and Joe again at World's End. MJF
is still out there. We don't know when he's going

(32:03):
to be back. He's got that contract, so he's sort
of lurking in the shadows somewhere. So that's another question
that still has to be answered, is who is going
to be, you know, next in line to challenge if
you do Joe and Hangman again. A third match of
World's End, that could very well be where MJF shows up,

(32:24):
but he can't cash in because the rule is he
got to give a week's notice, so he could show up,
but that doesn't mean he's actually going to be able
to cash in and win the championship. I still think that,
you know, the longer term play here is to get
that belt back on MJF and to do MJF and Swerve.
That's a match that they have not done, they have

(32:45):
teased it. That's a huge match. Maybe that's a match
that doesn't happen until later in twenty twenty six. Maybe
that's you know, the big all in match next year
at Wembley. But you know, we still have him again
lurking in the shadows, and we'll see, you know, how
much longer it takes to get him back in the full.
But Joe, I'd like to see Joe get more than

(33:05):
a month with it. I think this is something you
can play out for a few months what they did
last time when Joe won the title from MJF. He
won it at World's End, then he held it until Dynasty,
you know, so he had a solid what was that
four months three and a half months as the champion.
I wouldn't mind seeing that again, at least to Revolution.
I think you can keep the belt on Joe and

(33:27):
keep pushing the ops and take it at least until Revolution,
before you possibly, you know, change the title from him
to somebody else, maybe MJF. You know, I wouldn't just
put the belt right back on Hangman. I think you
want to just play this out for a little bit,
but yeah, World's End. To me, as I sit here
right now, it would it would seem to me that

(33:48):
one more match with Hangman and Joe is what would
make the most sense having Swerve in there. To me,
just it doesn't compute. You know, you got you got
to really build to that. Now, one more thing about that,
By the way, before I move on, Joe is one
third of the Trios Champions. Samoa Joe does not need
to be a trios champion if he is the aw

(34:11):
World Champion and hopefully will be for a little bit.
Hook now is back with the Ops. It appears I
think that he should gift his Trios title to Hook
and let Hook and Hobbs and Shabbata defend them. I
really don't think there's a need to keep that belt
on Joe. I mean, I guess they like the visual
of him having two titles, But if I'm them, I'm

(34:32):
just having him as a reward, right, as a reward
for doing what he did at Full Gear. His holiday
gift in the spirit of the holiday season, with Christmas
coming up, Samoa Joe, he could even put it in
a gift box next week, present Hook with this gift.
He should have done it tonight, honestly, but present him

(34:53):
with a gift, and that gift is his Trios championship.
That's the way you get it off, Joe. Now, after
the match from Full Gear on Saturday, there were some
postmatch comments backstage at the Prudential Center from John Moxley
after his loss to Kyle O'Reilly. Moxley said, he's doing

(35:16):
just fine while O'Reilly is headed to the hospital, and
we got footage of Moxley tapping out. Meanwhile, Pac won
his match against Darby Allen. So the battles always continue tomorrow,
he says, as the playoffs are about to begin, and
the rest of the Death Riders are just in the
background watching as Moxley walks out of the shot. It

(35:39):
was very interesting to pay attention to their facial expressions.
They just did not like coming out of that match
when Moxley lost, and then he beat up Kyle, and
then you know, as he was leaving, they look very
nonplussed with Moxley. You know, like all the signs are there.
You know, they've dropped a lot of little hints. Everything
is building hopefully to a big angle new next week.

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We'll talk about that in a little bit. But that
led into the Blue League action in the Continental Classic
with John Moxley against Mascara Dorada. As soon as I
saw Mascara Dorada in that list of participants, I said,
I know exactly what his role is here in this tournament.
But this is interesting. It's an interesting little clash of
styles here between these two. Slower paced to start, as

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Moxley tried to keep Dorada grounded until Dorada ramped it up,
hit this wild head scissors to the outside. Moxley sidestepped
a dive, slid back into the ring, hit one of
his own, but he came out so fast, not as
fast as Darby, but he came out of the ring
so fast and head first. He went head first right
into the top apparently padded part of the barricade, but yeah,

(36:48):
he basically lawn darted himself into the top of the barricade.
Back inside, Dorata hit a springboard cross body as Moxley
rolled to the ramp, and again he avoided a dive.
She dove off the ramp, which is every time I
see somebody doing that. Yeah, because they run these smaller venues,
so it's a very you have the stage and a

(37:08):
very short ramp to the ring. But it just reminds
me of how Adam Cole got hurt, you know, because
they ran that Grand Slam show a couple of years ago,
and he just he came out and he jumped off
like he jumped off the ramp to the floor and
fucked himself up badly. So now every time I see

(37:31):
someone who just like jumps off the ramp like that.
It's only a few feet, but I'm like, please, please,
don't pull an Adam Cole. So Moxley he avoids disaster by,
you know, jumping down to the floor. And at that
point Dorado was going to come off. He got a
running start. He was going to jump off the ramp

(37:52):
himself with a dive, but as he did so on
the way down, he got caught with a forearm shot.
Not very smart. After a break, Moxley tried to create
some distance, but Doroto would not allow it. He hit
a torneo dive to the floor. Doroto was too slow
to follow up, allowing Moxley to fire off a cutter.

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Dorota got an armbar as Moxley scrambled. And I have
to give them credit for this because the way that
they have had Moxley submitting, like in this feud with
Kyle O'Reilly especially, and he's been submitting to various holes
and he's been panicking anytime he gets trapped in a
submission hold. He tapped out to Darby right in the

(38:35):
scorpion deathlock at Wrestle Dream. They've done a good job
of conditioning the audience to think that this guy might
actually submit, because the crowd really reacted here as Dorota
got that arm It wasn't even a great armbar, honestly,
but he got on some version of an armbar, and
people were sort of buying into it. So Moxley got

(38:57):
out of it. He mounted him with punches. Dorado went
up top, though he hit a four to fifty splash
Moxley kicked out. Dorado went up top again. He tried
a shooting star press, but this time Moxley got the
knees up. He turned it into some sort of a choke.
It's like they were almost head to head laying down,
but he reached up and he kind of grabbed him,

(39:19):
you know, like under his armpit and under the throat,
and he grabs some sort of sleeper hold on and
Doroto was flailing his legs and scrambling around and trying
to get his feet on the ropes, but he wasn't
anywhere close, and then eventually he faded. He went out.
We got the rep stoppage and John Moxley wins the match.
Good match here again, Dorota. He is the Beast Mortas

(39:44):
of the tournament this year, or the Jay Lethal of
the tournament this year, where I'm not sure he's going
to win any matches. If he does, he might win one.
But his job in this tournament is to go in
there and have good matches and make his opponents look
really good and then lose. That's his role, and it's
the same role that Lethal and Juice Robinson and Mark

(40:05):
Briscoe in the years past and other people have had,
where you know, he's not racking up a whole lot
of points, but he can go in there probably work
with almost anybody and have at least a good match.
And that's what this was. Again. You have two guys
who wrestled two completely different styles. This was a John
Moxley match. There were no weapons, there were no forks,

(40:26):
there was no blood, none of that. There was a
lot of lucha and I thought they worked well together. Now,
after the match, Marina Shaffir came to the ring because
she wasn't allowed at ringside during the match, but she
came to the ring to uh, thank you. Its a
reverse cravat. I couldn't think of what the name of

(40:46):
that hold was a reverse cravat. So Marina hits the ring.
She's checking on Moxley and we hear timeless Tony Storm's music.
So this was interesting because we had a Timeless Tony
Storm promo basically on John Moxley. With John Moxley in

(41:06):
the ring. She comes out, She gets into the ring
with Moxley and Marina Shaffir. She tells Johnny that his
eyes were not deceiving him. This is timeless Tony Storm,
the toughest, most resilient, least bitchy person in the ring.
Despite Moxley's love of cargo pants, she says she likes him.
Whereas he operates in fear and hate, she operates in love,

(41:32):
which is far more violent than he could ever imagine.
Storm would love to stay in chat all night, just
thus gals, but she has a message for his cave
woman daughter. As per the Love Bombs win at full gear,
their stipulation in their semi final round match has to
be brutal enough to exact revenge while entertaining enough for

(41:54):
the sickos. She said it not me. She said that
she couldn't come up with a stiflation for their match,
but then she had an epiphany. After four nights straight,
she rolled over in bed and saw her sweet Mina
and Mina at this point she walked out on stage
and my god, she I mean, this woman was just
busting I don't know any other way to put it,

(42:17):
just busting out of her top hair as she walked
out on stage, and Tony says she realized that she
hadn't gotten her anything for Christmas. That Tony said her
gift to Mina is a no disqualification, no tags, hardcore
Holiday deathmatch in the Women's tag team title tournament against

(42:42):
Marina Shaffir and Megan Bain and Moxley had to physically
restrain Marina Shaffir from attacking Tony at the end of
the segment. Because of course, we haven't gotten enough hardcore action.
We haven't gotten enough blood and tax and Barbara and
kendosticks and tables and weapons and glass. Let's do it again.

(43:08):
They're obsessed. This tournament doesn't need any stipulations, but we're
right back to the hardcore stuff because we haven't gotten
enough of it over the last two weeks. So that'll
be next week. I'm sure the sick ohs will enjoy
Renee was backstage with Chris Statlander, calling her the greatest

(43:29):
in the galaxy, the second woman ever in aw to
pen Mercedes Monette. Statlander said that she's seen nothing but
disbelief in people's faces that she is the only person
to win the women's and TBS titles. There's three options
for her going forward. You could face the past, you
could face the present, or you could look to the future.

(43:50):
Statlander knows where she's going. Who's coming with me? How's it?
We learned absolutely nothing about what's next for Chris Statlander,
the women's world champion. We know nothing, Like Sergeant Schultz,
I know nothing. We got no clarity at all about

(44:12):
where she's going. So who she's going to defend her
championship against. I look at the division right A lot
of the women right now are tied up in this
women's Tag Team Tour. I mean some have already been eliminated,
but a lot of the women, the key women are
involved right now in the tournament, at least for a
few more weeks. They're not going to go back to
Statlander and Mercedes again. They're not going to Statlander and

(44:35):
Tony Storm. So I'm looking at like, who could you
know potentially be next in line here for Statlander, And
I don't know who that person is going to be.
Whoever it is, I think is just going to be
more of a placeholder honestly, until they eventually get to
who that woman is really going to be that is
going to take the championship from her. I think that

(44:56):
woman should be Jamie Hayter when the time is right,
and I'm talking months down the road. Stat Lander has
wins over Tony Storm, actually two wins over Tony Storm,
and she went from back to back wins over Tony
Storm to beating Mercedes, only the second person to do that.
So this woman ought I'll be holding onto that championship

(45:16):
for at least another six months. When the time is right,
I believe the person should be Jamie Hater. But you
have to build to it. You got to build to it.
But if you do that when the time is right,
whether it's double or nothing or all in or Dynasty
or whatever it is, Chris Statlander and Jamie Hayter, that's

(45:38):
a big match to do. And that's someone who I
could see taking the championship away from her. Now, you
could also go Megan Bain. Megan Bain when she was
first called you know, up to called up, called up
from the minor leagues when she first arrived on the
scene in aw almost instantly they altered her into a

(46:00):
women's championship feud with Tony Storm. And that was a
mistake because unless she was going to go in there
and pull up brock Lesner and just destroy Tony and dominate,
that was always going to end with her losing. And
I don't know why you would want to do that
right away. It's like when Mina signed full time and
moved to the States, the first thing they did with
her when she was back on TV was give her
a world championship match. Tony has a tendency to rush

(46:25):
these women into these things. They lose, and then it's like, well,
I hope he has some other great plan for them.
So coming out of this women's tag team title tournament,
assuming that her and Marina Shafir are not going to win,
I think you could absolutely build up Megan Bain as
you know, again more of a dominant singles performer and

(46:46):
have a program with her and Chris stat Lander, and
maybe if you want to, you could put the title
on Megan Baine and then maybe eventually Jamie Hater is
built up to beat Megan Baine for the belt. But
as far as what this next option is going to be,
I don't I don't know what he's going to do.
I don't know. I don't know, And if you were
watching this show hoping to get an answer to that question,

(47:06):
then you were disappointed. We had a Continental Classic Gold
League match with Darby Allen against the Jet Kevin Knight,
which was the first time ever meeting between the two.
Knight roughed up Darby early on, so he quickly went
outside to create distance. Night though threw him into the
barricade and then launched off of it with a moonsaw

(47:27):
all in one motion. Back inside, Alan cut off a springboard,
sending Night crashing outside, and then following with a running dive.
Darby went for a coffin drop, but Knight sprung to
his feet. He had an avalanche backsuit plex for the
double down. Into the commercial break, Darby attempted the last supper.

(47:47):
We've seen him win matches in the past with that move,
but he did not win here. Knight avoided a death drop.
Each man got ahead of steam. They both collided with
Larriot's turning one another inside out. Darby was sent out
to the ramp. Night tried a springboard, he missed, but
connected on a pendulum DDT. Darby was trying to beat
the count, which gave Knight a chance to clear the

(48:10):
top rope. So you got to picture this now. He
launches himself from inside the ring out over the top
rope onto Darby on the ramp, and it wasn't just
like a crossbody, it was a lariat. He took him
down hard. It was a hard clothesline and he took
Darby down with it on the ramp. Back inside, Knight
missed a UFO splash as Darby flew in with a

(48:33):
code red for a close two. Darby wanted a coffin drop.
He got crotched though into a tree of woe. Knight
sprung to the opposite corner, not even on the opposite
side of the ring, same side of the ring, opposite corner.
So picture what Seth did to Cody when he fucked
up his shoulder at Crown Jewel. And Knight does the

(48:55):
coast to coast, beautiful coast to coast dive from one
corner to the other the drop kick, and after that
the UFO splash followed and Kevin Knight scores a clean
pin in the middle of the ring on Darby Allen,
which shocked me. It shocked me because Darby is coming

(49:15):
off a loss to Pack at full gear, so I
thought they would want to get him back in the
wind column here, So I was not expecting a Kevin
Knight when I was pleasantly surprised to see that, because
Kevin Knight is one of those young guys on the
roster that you do hear people talking about that they have,
you know, high hopes for him. There's great potential there.

(49:39):
He's someone who, like a Kyle Fletcher, I think you
can really build up as one of your sort of
aw homegrown talents if you just put the work in
to really help get him there. He's super athletic, he's
super talented. We still really haven't seen him come out
of his shell yet because he's part of a tag team.
There's not a whole lot of singles focus on him.

(50:01):
But he's got all the potential in the world to
be someone special in this company. Giving him wins over
bigger names than him is the easiest, quickest way to
go to help get him over to that next level,
you know, And whatever you think about Darby, if you
think Darby's world champion material or not, they have booked

(50:22):
him in a way that he's going to be a
world champion one day. Darby is one of their top
baby faces. You get a win over one of your
top baby faces, you've done something. So that was a
big win for him. Also, the match itself, I thought
was very good and the biggest win of Kevin Knight's
career so far. I would call it an upset. That's
the second one already in this tournament, Night number one.

(50:45):
We already have two upsets. But using this tournament as
a vehicle to get somebody like a Kevin Knight over
is not a bad idea. They go backstage. Eddie Kingston
said that he didn't want to talk about Hook right now.
He wasn't in the mood to address what happened with Hook. Okay,

(51:05):
Then he said that he is not in line for
a title shot against Samoa Joe, but taking out his
boys Shabata on Collision would get him a little bit closer.
So he issues a challenge and the match was very
quickly made official. This was a cop out. I get
they want to save it for a later date, maybe
do a face to face with him and Hook, but

(51:26):
to not even address it or sell any real rage
or anger over what happened. That was a cop out.
And they closed the show with one more Continental Classic match.
Old they had a whole bunch of them here on
this show. Another Continental Classic match, this one from the
Blue League. Claudio Castignoli against Orange Cassidy. We just saw

(51:48):
this match, if you're looking at this going, wait, didn't
we just see this match? Yes, we did a few
weeks ago. Actually it was one of the blooding Guts
advantage matches, and Claudio beat Orange Cassidy earlier this month,
so we got it again here. And we were told
by ex Caliber that Cassidy demanded that Tony Khan move

(52:08):
his match with Claudio up to tonight after what happened
with Kyle O'Reilly at Full Gear. Because everybody in this
league is going to wrestle each other once, so I
guess this match was supposedly scheduled for next week or
the week after, but he wanted it now, so Tony
Kahan gave him the match tonight. So Claudio tried to

(52:31):
rush right at the bell, Cassidy avoided it into a
series of pen attempts. Claudio finally was able to stop
the momentum with a tilta world backbreaker, and then outside
on the floor, Claudio hit a giant swing into the
side of the announced desk into the timekeeper's barricade. Back
in the ring, Claudio continued to rag do all this

(52:51):
man around. Later on, Cassidy sold his back after failing
to pick Claudio up for a beach break. Claudio charged
at him in the corner, but he went shoulder first
into the post. On the floor. Cassidy landed a tornado DDT.
Then he delivered a stun dog millionaire back in the
ring and climbed up to the top rope. Cassidy, though

(53:11):
dove right into a European uppercut, got a close near
fall out of that one. Claudio went for another uppercut.
Cassidy though interrupted it with an orange punch, and then
another and then finally a beach break for a very
close near fall. Both men struggled to their feet. Claudio
landed a huge lariat. Cassidy avoided a power bomb with

(53:33):
a reversal into a pinning attempt. But he got a
two count only. Claudio then landed another pop up uppercut
and he scored the wind. So after the match was over,
the rest of the Death Riders they come out and
they join in the ring to celebrate Claudio's big win.
Renee gets into the ring and she says Claudio is
the only one to compete in all three Continental Classics.

(53:55):
And as she's talking, wheeler Da gets into it with
Orange Cassidy, who's fighting back. So the Death Riders all
attack Cassidy and a nice little touch here Marina Shaffer.
She makes sure that she gets Renee out of harm's way,
and Renee exits there because of course, missus Moxley, we
got to get her out of harm's way. So Renee

(54:18):
leaves the ring. So Roderick Strong, Kyle Fletcher, Kenoski, to Keshta,
Kevin Knight, Speedball masceror Derata they all hit the ring
for this giant heatless brawl. I wrote this in big
word here, heatless brawl until Dorada hit a moon salt

(54:40):
onto a pile of bodies outside outside of the moon
salt spot. This was honestly the quietest that I have
heard any crowd for one of these types of brawls
because there was no reason for it, like guys are
just randomly running. I mean, I get that these were
all the guys that are in Theental Classic, right, but

(55:01):
that's literally the only reason that these men ran out
to the ring. Now, why would they even run out
to the ring. It was just weird. Fuck is mask
Riderrada running back out there for because he lost to
Moxley earlier? So what so they're all brawling out there,
nobody really seems to give much of a shit. But
then they show Okata who's on the ramp just sort

(55:24):
of watching everything, and that's how they went off the air.
So that's back to back losses. Now for Orange Cassidy
to Claudio, they had a decent match here. Honestly, this
was the weakest out of all of the Continental Classic
matches here on this show, but Moxley winning and Claudio
winning gives them both some momentum when they pull up

(55:46):
next week to Dynamite. And on Dynamite next week, it
was confirmed we are getting John Moxley one on one
with Claudio casting milding death Rider against death Rider and
that is where hopefully something will happen at the end
of this match. Now we know that there won't be

(56:07):
any interference in the match because it's not allowed when
the match is over. And if I had to predict,
you know, who is going to win that match, I
would say Claudio. It could go Moxley and then Claudio
just snaps and they all fucking beat the shit out
of him. I'm gonna go Claudio wins. But there needs

(56:28):
to be an angle here, and it would seem that
at the end of this match, coming out of this
match next week, that that would be the perfect time
to do it. If they're gonna drop Moxley where he stands,
that next week should be the week, and that's what
they close the show with a major angle where John
Moxley is excommunicated from the Death Riders. Maybe they wait

(56:49):
until the end of the tournament. That's also possible, But
this has been building for a while now and it's
just a matter of which week are they going to
pull the trigger? And what is that angle going to
look like? Is it something where Moxley gets up in
their faces and putting his finger in their chest and
pushing their buttons until they finally say fuck this guy?

(57:12):
Is it a shocking thing? That. I mean, we're kind
of expecting it, but like in the moment, nobody's really
expecting it, and then they kind of drop them in
this like shocking moment. I would love for them to
try to find more of a shocking way to do this.
It could be a really major angle, but that is
what that match needs to be in some form. It
has to be leading to you here. It's one of
the reasons why I look at this tournament this year

(57:35):
and it's not just Ta Keshia and Ocondomy, like the
Moxley and Claudia angle, Like you're weaving story into this tournament,
but only if it leads to something tangible, only if
it leads to something, you know, impactful, a major angle,
a major turn, a major twist coming out of that
match next week. That's what I'm looking for first time.

(57:58):
I'm actually looking forward to Death Riders segment in a
very long time, so that match will be taking place
on next week's show. The way things are standing right
now in the Gold League, three points to Kyle Fletcher
and Kevin Knight, so they're on top right now. In
the Blue League three points to John Moxley and to

(58:18):
Claudio it's still early none of this really matters, and
again we all know who's going to the finals. But
that is your Dynamite review, very simple. You know, with
these several weeks coming up of Dynamite, a lot of
it is going to revolve around this tournament. So if
you're not a Continental Classic fan, it's kind of like

(58:41):
the people who really don't like Forbidden Door, especially in
the early years of Forbidden Door. It's not as much
of an issue these days, but like the first year
they did it, maybe the second one, a lot of
new japan guys on the show and not all of
them available to be on TV to really build up
to the pay per view. It could be rough to
sit through some of those shows if you're really not

(59:03):
into that. You just want to like pick up with
aw stories. I don't give a shit about you know,
this company against that company. There's some people who hate
the bill to Forbidden Door. There's also people who hate
the build to you know, World's End because it's just
so heavily focused on a tournament that maybe they don't
care about. I like the tournament, I like the for

(59:25):
the most part, the makeup of the tournament this year,
and as long as they could weave some story threads
into it to try to make it interesting, like the
death Rider stuff, the callous family stuff. You know, that's
that's really all I hope for. You know, I don't
just want the matches for the sake of the matches.
But you can weave some big angles into it advance

(59:45):
some stories. Then I think you're you're making use of
this tournament in a productive way. We'll see what to
shakes out on Collision tomorrow night. I will not be
watching Collision Tomorrow night. I will be eating a lot
of food at someone else's house that they will they
will make. My job is to show up and eat.

(01:00:07):
That's my only job. Tomorrow I will not be watching Collision.
I'll catch up with anything important that happens after the fact.
There will be no SmackDown review on Friday, but I
will be live with you. The next time will be
for the Survivor series just coming up. Ye know, the
Survivor series used to be the Thanksgiving Eve tradition. There

(01:00:27):
was a time where today we'd be watching Survivor series.
That hasn't been the case in a very long time.
But I will be live here on the channel Saturday
night after a Survivor series war games. So make sure
you join me here for that should be a good
time on the stream at least if nothing else. We

(01:00:49):
always have fun on the streams, even if the actual
events are not always fun. What did you think of
the Thanksgiving Eve episode of Dynamite forty eight point eight
percent thumbs up, fifty one zero point two percent thumbs down.
That was quite the swing. So when I checked before
I went live, it was sixty four up. So now

(01:01:09):
we're down to forty eight. How low will it go?
I don't know, but it's below the equator line right now.
At Solo Monster is where you can go vote Solo
Monster from a dried chicken. Solo Monster. If anyone from
your friends or family cooking deep fried turkey, tell them
do not add too much cooking oil on the pot.

(01:01:32):
I'm not going to give anybody any cooking advice. I'm
the last person who should be giving any kind of
cooking or culinary advice. I trust that they know what
they're doing. You know, it would be like being in
the back of an Uber and telling the driver, no,
you should go this way. I would think that if
you're an Uber driver, you would be pretty pissed off

(01:01:52):
at the other person telling you how to drive into
your job. So I'm just gonna let them do their thing.
Dry Chicken says, looking back on so much bloodshed that
happened to Full Gear, Dracula would take a sponge, wipe
down every single wrestler who bled, squeeze the sponge and

(01:02:14):
drink it out of a wine glass. You could do that.
Buckets of blood were spilled over the last two weeks
in this company. Thanksgiving is tomorrow and Black Friday is
in two days. The blood and Guts winning teams are
having Thanksgiving dinner together. Losing teams have to help Solo

(01:02:36):
Monster shopping on Friday. Solo Manster is not doing any
shopping on Friday. You forgot to mention Cyber Monday. By
the way, the deals continue into the beginning of next week.
Can you imagine Okada and Takesha sharing the Thanksgiving dinner
table with the entire don Kallis family and they volunteer
to cut the turkey. Well, there's a skid idea that

(01:03:00):
they should have gone with. They didn't do it. Oz glorious,
Happy c two season to all who celebrate. I know
he's a big Continental Classic guy is oz glorious? Is

(01:03:22):
it true that some grifter said human vomit logan Paul
is better than Takeshta and everyone in aw there was
someone who said that, Yes, and I think that they
were looking to get a reaction, and they got the
reaction they were looking for. Moore says Andrade confirmed he's

(01:03:48):
facing a year non compete. Yeah, well, we kind of
already knew that, and I didn't see the rest of
his quote. But if he's smart, he's working with an
attorney and that'll be taken care of very soon, because
there's no way that Androti is going to be sitting
at home for a year. I guarantee you he will

(01:04:09):
not be sitting on the sidelines for anywhere close to
a year. And if he doesn't retain a lawyer to
get this taken care of soon, then he's not too bright.
A fox with a fox emoji with a four ninety nine,
Hey Fox, thank you man, Happy Thanksgiving Arabian night. Do

(01:04:36):
you see or listen to the Androte interview today? I
did not. I only saw a brief quote. I don't
know what else he said in the interview. I have
no idea. I will have to take a look at
it later it's anything worth covering. Then I will mention
it on the sound of the Admiral David Robinson. Oh man,

(01:04:56):
I remember watching him play. I remember watching Carl Malone play. Also,
it's too bad he turned into such a piece of shit.
Buy sell or rent. What is the best game winner
in sports? Walk off home run? We just had this

(01:05:18):
the other day. Walk off home run, buzzer beater, three pointer,
or game winning touchdown. I just had this question on Monday.
It's the walk off home run. Nothing better than a
walk off home run. You know how hard it is
to hit a home run? You know how difficult that is?

(01:05:44):
The big fundamental, Tim, we go from David Robinson to
Tim Duncan. We got some San Antonio fans here, huh.
Set Life Stadium is so ugly. It looks like an
old ac unit from the nineteen seventies. I hate it

(01:06:05):
so much, and I believe that the Jets and Giants
are cursed because their stadium is a dumpster fire Man,
I hate MetLife. Well tell me how you really feel.
Oh look, I've been to MetLife Stadium twice for two
WrestleManias twenty nine and thirty five, and from what I remember,

(01:06:27):
it was not. It was not a nice stadium. And
I've heard other people who do go to Giants games
or Jets games who complain a lot about the stadium.
It's just it's just kind of a dump, which is
too bad. I think it's silly that the Giants and
the Jets still have to share a stadium together. I

(01:06:49):
think that's ridiculous enough. Duffs VIDs on Thanksgiving E for
the nineteen ninety nine home from the hospital. Most tests
came back good or normal. Glad to be home. I'm
glad that everything came back normal. Miss Dynamite. Transplant is

(01:07:12):
on the table. One biopsy needs to be done for
the liver to see if double transplant is needed. Thank
you for the prayers everyone, Well, we are all thinking
about you and sending you all the positive vibes and
energy that we can. You're a part of our family
here and only good things from here on out, or
as good as they can be. And a very happy

(01:07:34):
Thanksgiving to you and yours. Yeah, and it's in New Jersey.
The New York Jets and the New York Giants don't
even play in New York Like how ridiculous, is that

(01:07:56):
oz and glorious? Thank you for the two bucks. Yeah,
we got some people hanging over the top rope tonight
hit that like Button Casper the try Hard with a
nine to ninety nine something something, Batman something something. Oh Man,
you come on, you love Batman, Come on, Casper, Casper

(01:08:22):
the try Hard. Happy Thanksgiving Brother, Washington Commanders Stadium. I've
not been I've not been to the Washington Commander Stadium,
so I can't speak to that, a very said Woodworm.
Hey solo, first time chatter, longtime viewer since twenty sixteen.

(01:08:44):
Love your work. Can you tell me your three favorite
Sena matches? Well, John Cena and Cmpunk Money in the
Bank twenty eleven. I just think it's the perfect match.
Just there's like a magical feeling with just that atmosphere
in Chicago, the store behind it, with punk Is contract
being up. It was just perfect. Five stars all the way.

(01:09:10):
I would go Sena in AJ styles. I'm partial to
their Summer Slam match in twenty sixteen where AJ just
beat them clean. I was there, great match, but then
they have that match at the Rumble in twenty seventeen
at the Alamodome, which never left the ring. They never
left the ring that entire match, no plunder, no spots

(01:09:34):
on the announced desk. They just had a wrestling match
and it was great. And that's when Sena won Number
sixteen and tied Rick Flair. So I kind of go
back and forth between those two, but I'm inclined to say,
I'll just say, Sina AJ how about that. We'll keep
it nebulous. So that's two. I gotta pick a third one, huh.

(01:10:03):
I don't know. I might have to go with the
Sina Lesnar Extreme Rules match in twenty twelve. That was
a spectacle, that's what that was. I think those would
be my three. The Ufman, I like your new logo.

(01:10:29):
Just rewatched Mina making her entrance from tonight. One word damn,
I said she was busting out of that top. Two
words damn, damn. Three words. Yeah, you can keep going
all night. You can keep going all night, Arabian night.
Could they use Renee in the turn on mocks to

(01:10:50):
get heat. I don't think they want to do that.
I think they want Renee to be the straight lace
reporter interviewer. They could, I don't think they will, Hoffman
says Batman Returns is a Christmas movie, you know what.
I think you could definitely make a case for it.
There's this really stupid thing going on right now, and honestly,

(01:11:11):
my two cents, I think this is just people who
don't like the fact that every year we have the
debate about whether or not die Hard is a Christmas movie,
which it is, and so they've manufactured this nonsensical argument
just to kind of fuck with those people, that the
thing is a Christmas movie. Apparently this is no pun intended.

(01:11:35):
This is the thing this year where they say the
thing from nineteen eighty two, the John Carpenter movie is
a Christmas movie. And I didn't read the whole article
that I saw about it, but apparently it has to
do with the fact that it's in the winter in
the snut like. It's really dumb shit, Like, no, the
thing is not a Christmas movie, but Diehard is a

(01:11:58):
Christmas move will never convince me otherwise, Mystic Jay, I
just realized that this might be the last year where
WWE's Big Four will be all on one night. No, no,
I mean the Rumble next year is one night, so

(01:12:20):
we know that Survivor series is not I don't see.
I don't see Survivor series as a strong enough show
right now to go two nights. I think there's a
better chance Money in the Bank goes two nights before
Survivor series does. But like the next event to go
two nights will be the Rumble, whatever year it is,

(01:12:42):
twenty twenty seven, maybe if there's another pl that goes
two nights, it will be the Royal Rumble. From there,
if they continue that trend, you're looking potentially at elimination Chamber.
You're looking at Money in the Bank. I think before
we ever get a two night Survivor series, Isaac buy

(01:13:08):
sell or rent Survivor series ninety six, two and twenty eleven.
I am going those are all Madison Square Garden Survivor series.
I just realized, Yeah, I'm buying on ninety six, I'm
gonna rent on O two, and I'm gonna sell on

(01:13:29):
twenty eleven, even though that was the one that I
was actually at. Jeremy Rose buy sell, rent Noodle Pudding,
pumpkin pie or Pea cam Pie. I gotta buy on
noodle Pudding. I'm gonna have some of that tomorrow. I
can't wait. I'm going to rent on pea campie and
sell on pumpkin pie. I actually was looking for a

(01:13:51):
pumpkin pie. I'm sorry, not a pumpkin pie. I was
looking for a pea campie to buy for Friday because
I have to go to another Thanksgiving thing on Friday night.
Couldn't find a pea campie, but they had pumpkin pea campie,
and if you could believe it, I have never had never,
I've never had pumpkin pie. So this is gonna be

(01:14:11):
my first time trying a pie that has even a
little bit of pumpkin in it. Believe it or not,
We're gonna have some pumpkin pea campi on Friday night.
I'm very interested. I don't even know why I've never
tried it before. All things pumpkin never really appealed to
As much as I love Halloween, all things pumpkin just
never never really appealed to me. So that'll be my

(01:14:38):
first time trying that. Jeremy also says we really only
getting four matches at Survivor series. What the fuck are
we doing? I'll tell you where you're what you're doing.
You're you're gonna be getting multiple ad breaks. You're gonna
be getting super long entrances, and that's how they're gonna

(01:15:02):
fill up over three hours. You're not gonna have time
for any other matches. Pumpkin Pie needs to be heated
up with ice cream ball. Then I'm definitely not having
any Thanks. You just ruined it for me. Jeremy says,

(01:15:25):
did you see Russo on Helwani? Not a fan of his,
but his opinion about how to make wrestling shows entertaining
makes sense. I actually did watch it. I tried to
tolerate it. He was on there for like an hour,
and he was Russo. He was Russo being Russo. He
has his philosophy on things, and there you go. I'm

(01:15:50):
guessing Joe getting another title run means we won't see
him in WWE again anytime soon or ever again. Probably not,
and that's fine. That's WWE lost. They're the ones who
fired him twice, so fuck them. If somebody fired me twice,
I would not be in any great rush to go
crawling back there. My attitude, and I'm not saying Joe's

(01:16:11):
ah pro I don't think this is Joe's attitude, but
my attitude would be go fuck yourself. You don't want me, Okay, cool.
I'll take my services somewhere else, and I'll give them
before I give you. WWE doesn't deserve Samoa Joe Lo King,

(01:16:33):
what's your hot take for nineteen ninety nine WWF? My
hot take for nineteen ninety nine WWF is that it
wasn't as good as some people like to remember it being.

(01:16:56):
I'll take ninety eight over ninety nine. OZ Glorio is
fifty four months channel membership, fifty four months. Where's the
platinum skull? I don't know what skulled? What skull do

(01:17:21):
you have for fifty four months? Whatever skull it is,
you should have it. Roho Bear with forty five months,
You got some catching up to do to catch up
to OZ and Glorious. Happy Thanksgiving, Roho Bear and Tuxedo
t Servo has fifty one months of membership. Happy Thanksgiving
to all here who celebrate. Same to you, Same to everyone.

(01:17:51):
Austin Tucker, Hey Solo, I'm going to my first aw
show next Wednesday. Can't wait. I hope to see Adam
Page and Jamie Hayter. I don't know if you're going
to Jamie Hayter, but you probably will see Hangman. Probably
not wrestling, but he should be there. KD seventeen Burger. Yeah,
I these fucking names. Apparently it's like this on everyone's channel.

(01:18:14):
Now they just went right back to this at bullshit
where everyone's name is gone and now it's just your handle,
it says, YouTube being YouTube. I actually reached out to
YouTube a few months ago when this happened the first time,
and I said, how come because some channels still have
the regular names, Like how come they have names and
I don't? And they said, oh, it's a new change

(01:18:35):
that we're rolling out. I said, well, can we opt
out of it? Nope, It's being rolled out across all
of YouTube and there's nothing anybody can do about it.
Thanks YouTube, Katie says, nice shout out to the great
Tina Turner. You saw weapons. I saw it in the

(01:18:57):
theaters and hated it. But Amy Matting as the looney
Aunt stole the film and deserves an Oscar nomination. Your thoughts.
She was very creepy in that movie. She was very creepy.
I don't know about nominations. I don't know what the
competition is this year, but she was very creepy. I

(01:19:20):
like Josh Brolin in that movie too, says Still on
the Blue Skull Noodle Pie tomorrow. Yes, yes, I've already
said if it's not being served, I'm not showing up.
My attendance is contingent upon that being prepared for tomorrow.

(01:19:49):
Jeremy says, what's the low We're going to get three
match card, two match card, one match Seriously, Jos, what
can they really give us? They can do anything they
want to and people will eat up their slop no
matter what they do. I always thought that was gonna

(01:20:10):
be Vince McMahon's ultimate play was to eventually get rid
of the ring altogether and just have like a giant
variety show for two hours of just skits and comedy.
That's good shit, pal, and just get get rid of
the wrestling matches altogether. I'm surprised he never did it.

(01:20:31):
Duff's VIDs. Do you think Triple H is doing four
match cards on one night plees to make fans want
two nights for most, if not all Ples eventually and
the money? No, I really don't. I don't think that's
factoring into his decision to do this. I think it

(01:20:51):
really does just have more to do with They're gonna
give a lot of time to the war games matches
at least forty minutes for each one, and they are
going to fill in the time in between the matches
with WrestleMania advertisements because the tickets are going on sale.
I think, is it Friday? I think tickets might be

(01:21:14):
going on sale Friday, and so whatever their advertisements are
going to be. And then the long elaborate entrances. I mean,
do like the entrances for men's war games alone, is
that's twenty minutes right there? Probably be about the same
for the women. Then you have the actual match. I mean,

(01:21:40):
if they don't have any good ideas for anything else
on the show, I'm not saying that should just throw
matches on there for the sake of doing them. But
I don't know why we can't get that happy medium
between WWE and AW. Like WWE they give you too
few matches, and then AW gives you too many matches.
I mean, why is this so hard? Six matches? Boom?

(01:22:03):
There you go, perfect. It's gotta be a happy medium here.
But I will admit to you one thing. I would
rather have these five match wwepls than these ten or
twelve or thirteen match AW pay perviews, which I think

(01:22:23):
I think it's just fucking ridiculous. I'll take I'll take
some of the five match cards. Honestly, especially as a
content creator, it's just a lot easier for me to navigate.
You may feel differently if you're paying forty dollars for

(01:22:44):
the AW pay perview, But I cannot stand the length
of those shows like it is a huge, huge turnoff
for me. Absolutely cannot stand the length of those shows.
WrestleMania and Summer Slam should have eight on each night.
I disagree. That's too many. You don't need you don't

(01:23:07):
need sixteen matches. Why are we overloading these shows with matches?
I don't understand. You can have you can have six
matches on each night of WrestleMania maybe it's WrestleMania, maybe seven.
You don't need more than that Summer Slim. You don't
need more than that six or seven matches max per night.

(01:23:30):
That's that's that's fine, that's fine. You really don't need
more than that, even if AW pay per views blow
the WWE ones away on most nights. But it's too long. Yeah,
I mean, we can get into a debate about the

(01:23:52):
the quality of the shows AW. You know, consistently they
know how to put on great pay per views, but
it like, I'm trying to put myself in the head
of like Hangman and Joe as they're getting ready to
go out to the ring at the end of that
show on Saturday, and I'm like, why would you want

(01:24:13):
to be in that position? Mercedes and Statlander, you know,
their match was absolutely hindered by the fact that people
were just fucking exhausted by that point. It just it
drains you. Nobody can keep that energy for five straight
hours like that. It's not possible. It can't do it.

(01:24:37):
That's why you end up with matches near the end
that are just they feel fucking dead. Oz says, if
there were only six matches, how would you fill up
four hour on Tuesday? And oh, we have plenty of time.
We talk about news and everything. Yeah, and the watch
time we set a watchtime record this week. More people

(01:25:01):
watch us than they do some of the actual wrestling
shows talk about a lot more than just fucking matches.
That's fucking boring. I want to talk about some controversy,
I want to talk about some behind the scenes shit.

(01:25:22):
That's what makes it fun. That's why I started first
following wrestling news back in the late nineties, in the
early two thousands, I was fascinated by the backstage happenings
and the goings on and the contract news and who's
jumping here and who's going there. That's more entertaining than
what we see on the actual television shows. Are you

(01:25:43):
kidding me? Lucky Dog says, I do wish Tony started
the pay per views earlier. No more five pm start times,
make it three pm. He's not gonna do three pm
for every show, but like, yeah, even starting it at
seven instead of eight, it's still too much, but I

(01:26:04):
mean it would make it a little bit better, you know.
Now Again on the West Coast, you don't have that issue.
On the East Coast, though, it's a killer, it's an
absolute killer. Yeah, he's going to have to have some
earlier start time. I mean, the shows are always going
to be long. That's not going to change, so the
start times need to change. He has said that the

(01:26:24):
earlier start times actually didn't hurt them at all. If anything,
it might have helped them. So I'd like to see
them do that more often. It says, that's why I
listened to you instead of watching WWA. There's a lot
of people. There's a lot of people like you out
there who listen to and watch the podcast and don't

(01:26:46):
actually watch the product. Because look, when you're a wrestling fan,
yeah you're always a wrestling fan. Like, even if you
kind of grow out of it, you get bored with it,
you still want to keep up with what's going on.
So maybe you'll check clips in their YouTube channels and
highlights of stuff. But what do a lot of those
people do, right, They listen to podcasts and they watch,

(01:27:08):
you know, YouTube streams, and they keep up with what's
going on. It's like, yeah, no different than people who
like sports talk radio. Yeah, they watch the games, but
you know they love listening to all the blowhards on
fucking sports radio. Who are yeah talking about it the
next day, questioning all the decisions that were made in

(01:27:30):
the games over the weekend. How come they did this?
How come the coach didn't do that. Let's go to
Sandy from day Ridge. You're on the air, right, people
love sports talk radio. Those guys get paid millions of dollars.
Why do you think they're just certain people that they
enjoy their perspective on things and they enjoy commiserating with

(01:27:52):
other people who also feel the same way that they
feel get a lot of the same thing with wrestling
and wrestling content creators. Who's watching football tomorrow, Not this guy,
but there'll be a lot of people who are watching
football tomorrow. I don't even know who's playing tomorrow. Who's

(01:28:15):
playing tomorrow. I don't even know what the game is tomorrow, Ricky,
I love you too. He listens to the sound off
every Sunday afternoon. Thank you, Ricky. That's why you've kept
the show going for eighteen years, almost two decades. That's crazy.

(01:28:38):
We had a great podcast this past weekend. We'll have
another one this weekend, talk Survivor series fallout, and we'll
talk a little bit of aw if there's any news
on that front. I gotta go check out this Andrade stuff.
We're gonna get back to your questions. Ste you could
email me. We'll be doing a mailbag this weekend. That

(01:28:58):
will be episode nine. So I'm gonna wrap this up here.
This has been fun hanging out with you guys here
on Thanksgiving Eve, and I hope you guys, wherever you
may be, if you are celebrating and feasting tomorrow night,
not fisting. I said feasting. I hope you have a
very happy Thanksgiving. I'm very thankful for all of you

(01:29:19):
being here with me every single week. Whether or not
you're watching the actual television shows, it doesn't matter. You
don't even have to. I watch so you don't have to.
And I'm grateful for all of your support, all of
your superchats, just hanging out in the chat, chatting away
with everybody else. And I will see you back here
again live on Saturday night. We'll be talking Survivor series

(01:29:41):
war games, and then on Sunday, Episode nine of the
podcast coming up this weekend, dups VIDs is gonna get
the last word here on a poll bro nine to
ninety nine Superchat was beginning to watch the ninety six
Survivor series and I saw Marty Janetti was limping. Do
you know if he was just working or did he

(01:30:01):
legit get hurt and what was the injury? I believe
he now that was a legit injury. I believe he
rolled his ankle. Was I believe a legitimate ankle injury. Yeah,
And unfortunately these days I don't know which foot or
which ankle it is, but he's had some severe ankle
issues in recent years where he's posted pictures of it.

(01:30:24):
It's nasty, it's really disgusting. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's
what I think. He legitimately rolled it and that's what
it was. Anyway, I'll go I'm gonna go check out
some Vault stuff myself. That'll be what I watch as
I as I fall asleep tonight, I'll pop on over
to the Vault YouTube channel and check out some classic

(01:30:46):
Survivor series shit from the early nineties. And I will
see you back here on Saturday night for the Survivor series.
Until then, Happy Thanksgiving guys,
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The Burden

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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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