AEW Forbidden Door 2025 Review | Darby Allin Can Climb A Mountain BUT CAN'T CLIMB A CAGE 😂 - Solomonster Sounds Off

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Jess Shy of nineteen thousand fans at the two in
London tonight, aw had for what was the highest wrestling
audience ever in that building, beating out money in the bank.
Two years ago that was for Forbidden Door. The show
is called Forbidden Door, and honestly, of all the Forbidden
Door shows they've done, I believe this is now the

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third one, right, third or fourth one, this is the
one that felt the least like Forbidden Door. And at
one point three years ago it felt like a novelty
because we had all of these talents coming in from
other promotions, mainly New Japan. But now it's CMLL and
it's Stardom, and it's this revolving door of talent, and
it was a very novel concept for a major promotion

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here in this country to be bringing in talent in
that way and featuring them from other promotions, and so
it was kind of a cool concept. And you can
get some matches that you otherwise would never be able
to see. And the thing is aw now on a
weekly base, is basically opens the forbidden door. The forbidden
door never closes, and when that happens, it's no longer forbidden.

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So the show loses a little something special because of that.
Now they put nineteen thousand people in the building tonight.
They did, you know, I'm sure a huge gate. They
made a lot of money off of it. Tony Kan
is not going to stop doing it, but probably doesn't
need to be a forbidden door anymore since we get
it on a regular basis here. This show tonight was.

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When this show was over, it was a good show.
It was a good show because we had a lot
of really good wrestling on this show. That's your thing.
You got tons of matches on the show tonight. Even
the pre show had four matches, and they tried to
stuff as many people in there as they possibly could.
There was some very good wrestling on the show tonight,
some solid wrestling. This was not a show that when

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it was over, I came away from it thinking, you
know what, that was a great show. This was one
of the best AW shows of the year. It wasn't
we had a main event tonight of ten It was.
It was five on five ten men, lights out steel
cage match that was technically the main event, and we
had the AW World Championship on the line as well.

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Hang Man Adam Page and MJF what we had in
this main event. It was Will Ospray and his team
with Darby Allen and Hiroshi Tanahashi and Kenny Omega and
Cody Abushi, who we have not seen since all in Texas.
They have not made a single appearance all together, all
of Osprey's friends taking on John Moxley and Claudio and

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Gabe Kid from New Japan and the Young Bucks. And
this was Osprey's last match before he goes away for
a while. And the big story coming into this match
had to do with will Osprey's health. He's been giving
interviews all week long to CBS Sports and this outlet
and that outlet, talking about his neck and talking about
the the discs that are compromised, as he says, in

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his neck, and he's going to be going under the knife.
You know, he doesn't know when he doesn't know, you know,
what his future looks like. But that was really the
story going into this match. And it's not just a storyline,
it's legit. You know, he is hurt and we are
not going to see him for a while. So coming
into the show, it sounded kind of crazy that they
were even allowing him to be in the ring, and

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as it turned out, he didn't even do the craziest
stuff in that match when it was over. Even though
he was left laying at the end of the show,
he came out of it a hell of a lot
better than most of the other people in that match,
including Darby Allen. Darby Allen more than made up for
whatever will Osprey couldn't do and said, don't worry, I
got you covered. And Darby was doing Darby things in
that main event. But the Babyfaces go over. Will Osprey

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looks like he's going to get this grand sendoff here
in London, thirty minutes from where he lives, the last
time we're going to see him for a while. And
then we got to get heat, so they did a
beatdown angle. Now, this cage that they had tonight, it
encompassed the entire almost the entire ringside area, didn't encompass
the announced desks, but it was more than just the ring,

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and it wasn't a very tall cage, but again it
gave them a little more breathing room to do some
crazy shit. Osprey is the only babyface who is left
in this cage. He is attacked by the heels the
other babyfaces have been locked out, and this is the
angle that they did here at the end of the show,
they're doing a beatdown angle on will Ospray and I'm

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watching this and I'm seeing all these babyfaces on the outside,
powerless to do anything about it. They are powerless to
come in and help this man. Even though there was
no roof on this cage, even though Marina Shaffir just
climbed from the outside into the cage. The babyfaces are
They're helpless, They're stuck on the outside. The door is locked,

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it's padlocked shut. There's nothing they can do except for Wheeler.
Yuda is there with a kendo stick in his hand,
trying to fend off anybody who might attempt to climb
into the cage. Of course nobody did, by the way,
nobody did attempt to climb into the cage. And then
eventually the ops Saboa Joe and Powerhouse Hobs and Katiyori Shabada,
they run out and finally somebody says, oh, you know what,
we could lift the cage, and so somebody in the

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production crew decide, hey, I could push a button here
and the cage will go up. And then they came
to the aid of will Osprey, but it was too
late because he had a chair wrapped around his neck
and it was stomped on. The same thing they did
to Samoa Joe in Texas, the same thing they did
to will Osprey. Actually in Texas. They did it to
him again here, although we saw Osprey back on TV
two weeks later, So by that logic, I don't know

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why we're supposed to care about them stomping on a
chair when will Osprey was already back two weeks later
the last time they did it. But it was a
very it was a very goofy angle, watching all the
babyfaces mill around outside as if they were powerless to
do anything about what was going on. Not the only
goofy thing on the show tonight. It was an angle. Frankly,

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I didn't even think really needed to happen. They made
the decision that they wanted to put heat on him
because he's leaving anyway, and so let's we'll put some
heat on the death Riders. You had to get something
out of it. They would have been better off just allowing, honestly,
allowing Osprey to just have his sendoff, have the heels win,
have the heels win and then have Osbury stand up

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and get the nice send off and go off the
air that way. I just didn't think it was an
angle that needed to happen in the first place. But
that was very, very silly watching that. We had Hangman
Page on this show defending the AW World Championship against MJF,
who still has his Casino Gauntlet contract. Because he originally
said that, Okay, you know what, I'm going to cash
in my contract. That's how I'm going to get this

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title match. Then they change their mind and they probably realized, Okay,
this is really stupid, so let's not do that, and
instead we'll have him threaten to burn Mark Briscoe alive
until Hangman gives him what he wants. So they were
able to kind of back out of what they had
gotten themselves into. So he had that as an insurance policy.
His contract was not utilized tonight, and that made it

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a little more obvious he was probably not going to
win the championship tonight, and he didn't. Hangman Page is
still the AW World Champion, but MJF still has that contract.
And by the way, Hangman at MJF match on the
entire show that was my favorite match of the night
easily out of everything on the entire show, and that
is despite some of the goofiness that we had in
that match and the overbooking in that match. MJF still

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has his contract. Athena does not. She did cash in
her Casino Gauntlet contract for her match with Tony Storm.
Tony Storm not only beat Athena but got her to
tap out and timeless. Tony Storm is still the AW
Women's World Champion. Now this contract stuff. I have said before,
I am sick of the cash ins. I'm sick of

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the money in the bank cash ins. I wish they
would do away with it for a while. They're not
going to because it's still a very popular show. I
get it, I understand it, but I'm sick of it.
And I'm no less sick of it when AW does
the same thing and copies the exact same idea, and
Tony Kahan has gotten a lot of feedback from fans
telling him the same thing. Why are you copying them?
Why are you copying money in the bank. It's not

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a great concept to begin with, because it's been beaten
to death. Why why are you doing the same thing
where you can cash in anytime you want for a
championship match. He addressed this in the post show scrum
after the pay per view. I just want to read
to you from what Tony Kah had to say about this.
He said, I want aw to be different, and I've
been listening to the feedback and the voice of the fans,

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and I think people want the championships in the sport
of pro wrestling to have integrity. Of course, that's hard
to do when you have fifteen championships, but that's beside
the point. I don't want to have a big ticket
championship match that we are unable to advertise, and also
I don't really want to necessarily utilize a stipulation here
that is being utilized other places. That's why going forward,

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I want to set the tone that from now on,
I think the right thing to do is all contract
executions should be on at least a week's notice so
that we can properly promote the matches, so that we
can properly give the fans notice and have the integrity
of a championship match. Now, I don't know if that
ap lies to mjf's contracts. I don't know if this

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is retroactive and it includes his contract or if this
is just my impression was that it's going forward when
they do future casino Gauntlets, so that I didn't get
any clarity on that, but that's the way to go.
That's the way to go. At least try if you're
gonna do it, differentiate it in some way instead of
doing the you know, sneaking in after the match is

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over and cashing. It's just so overplayed. So if he's
going to utilize that as a stipulation, I like that
at least change it up. At least he recognizes, you
know what, we don't need to do it exactly the
way that they do it. That that doesn't even make
it a great idea to begin with. So we'll have
a one week race period so that we can at
least promote this big championship, which I thought was what

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they were doing originally when they started doing this. Unless
I'm just misremembering, but that's the way to go. So
that was the update on Tony Kahn as far as
future Casino Gauntlet contracts concerned. Again, that's going forward Wardlow
is back. Remember him. I had almost forgotten about him.

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I forgot he even existed. Wardlow returned on the show
tonight and he has joined another faction that you would
think he would have learned his lesson having been a
part of multiple factions in the past and it usually
doesn't end very well for him. But now he's part
of another group and we'll talk about what that group is.
Jamie Hater is back as well. They held out on

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her return here for the Big UK show. People were
very happy to see her. I was very happy to
see her. She'll be a nice shot in the arm
in a women's division that is loaded with a lot
of talent, but they have been besieged by injuries. And
not just in the women's division, but they have been
besieged by injuries in that division as well, which is
the reason why Tony Khan is held out on having
AW women's tag team titles. Those titles are made, they're

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ready to go. He has said this before, but a
lot of people got hurt. Mina Shirikawa got hurt. Multiple
people got hurt, including Jamie Hayter. But now as they
start to get some of them back, we'll probably end
up with more titles in AW. The matches tonight on
this show were solid to very good. They ranged from

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you know, pretty much between those two measures. But when
the show was over, I just I didn't feel this
overwhelming sense of man, this was a great show. You know,
I've seen some great aw pay per views. This will
not rank is one of the best that they've done,
even this year. But I thought for the most part

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it was good. Again. The forbidden Door aspect of the show,
for me, it doesn't do anything for me anymore. It's
played out. It's passe a. We get forbidden Door every week.
I wouldn't mind if they just junk the show altogether.
If they want to have a show where you bring
in a few international talents to have, you know, two
or three matches on the show, that's fine. That doesn't
make a forbidden door. There's nothing forbidden about it. And

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Tony Kahan should be very happy about the fact that
he was the big promoter here in North of America,
at least on a national scale. Who you know has
television the way he does. Who really kicked that door
open in a major way, you know, and and started
having matches like this again on pay per view. That's great,
but there's really nothing forbidden about it anymore. It's been years,

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so that aspect of it to me is just very
played out. That bloom is off the roads as far
as that goes, but very up and down on some
of the stuff that happened here on the show, we'll
go through the whole thing. This is your Forbidden Door
Review twenty twenty five. I am the Solemn Monster, a
little later than I wanted to go live. I have
good reason for it, though. Take a look at this.
I've been dealing with this all weekend. Look at my

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little wasp friends over here. Hello, there's the yellowjackets. Look
at all the bodies. This has been an absolute nightmare,
and I have been waiting for an exterminator to show
upet That guy was very angry with me. He's looking
right at me. He was ready to sting my eyeballs out,

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but I got him first before he could get to me.
So I will tell you I'm still waiting on an
exterminator to show up, and he might actually be here now,
so I cannot guarantee that I may not have to
duck out here for five minutes. I was holding out
as long as I could. He was supposed to be
here an hour ago, and like the cable guy, of course,

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never shows up on time. So do I have a hive?
Obviously I've got something hidden somewhere. They've opened the Forbidden
Door and they have created a nest or a colony.
I'm pretty sure the entry point is outside the house,
in the brick, and they have burrowed their way in
and they have made their way up to the apartment upstairs.

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So yeah, it's staying. I haven't been stung yet. But
I'll tell you what man, I would say from the
time Forbidden Door started the main card to the time
that that show ended. It was four and a half
hours of this pay per view tonight, and that wasn't
even the longest a show of the year. But I
would say from the moment this show started to the

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moment it ended, I probably killed close to one hundred
of them. Today was the worst day of them all.
It was bad on Thursday, it got worse Friday yesterday.
Now today it's like it's a graveyard. You should see
my little handback. It's like it's an absolute graveyard. So yeah,
it's not been fun. But anyway, that's why we ended

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up going live late. Here. I'm just beside myself, but
you don't have to worry about that, because you're safe
and sound wherever you are. Now. We had the zero
hour pre show had four matches. I'm going to run
through this as quickly as I possibly can, as far
as the pre show because whatever we had Roderick struck.

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This was Tony con trying to fit as many people
as he possibly could here on this pre show. So
we had Roderick Shaw and Kylo Riley, Yuya Yui Mura
from New Japan and El Desperado. They beat Leo Rush,
Action Andretti, Josh Alexander and et Cicero. When the match
was over, Lance Archer and Rocky Romero, they joined the

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Heels in attacking the baby Faces. Tomohiro Ische made his
way out to the ring and is She and Archer.
They traded elbow strikes. Is She got the better of
the exchange. He hit a stalling what ex Caliber said
was a brainbuster. It was not. It was a stalling suplex.
No less impressive that he was able to hold Archer

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up there for a good five seconds, but it was
not a brain buster. Ricochet and the Gates of Agony.
They beat Speedball, Mike Bailey, Kevin Knight, and Michael Oku. Now,
there was a lot of crazy shit that happened in
the main event tonight with Osprey and Darby and his

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blooding gore and all the shit that Moxley and aw
you know, the sickos and the fans love. So we
had a lot of really crazy shit and dangerous bumps
in the main event. None of them was the craziest
bump of the night. Believe it or not. We saw
people go through stacked tables and all kinds of craziness.
The bump of the night unintentionally came in this match

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where someone almost died and it was Michael Oku. Now,
Michael Oku, very talented young star out of the UK,
obviously being in the UK tonight, everybody was very happy
to see Michael Oku and too Leona up the gates
of agony. At one point he hit Oku with a pounce.

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I've seen some pounces in my day, I ain't seen
no pounds like this. He pounced Michael Oku out over
the He cleared the top rope backwards and he goes
flying out of the ring and he damned near lands
right on top of his head because his body is
rotating in mid air, so it looks like he's about

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to come straight down on his fucking head. At the
very last second, he altered his movement. It looked like
he landed face first on the floor, which honestly isn't
much better, but it's better than landing on top of
your fucking head. Everybody in the audience gasped, The announcers gasped.
I gasped. I'm like, is he alive? I mean, I

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was sitting here. I was scared to death initially, because
again it was it was scary. It was the scariest
moment in the night, and it happened on the fucking
pre show. I don't know how he was able to
continue and finish that match. I mean, he looked a
little loopy at first, but otherwise he was able to
continue and he went on and my god, that's just
absolute insanity. If you didn't see it, you can go

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back and check it out. But I mean, whether it
was the pre show or the main card, that was
scary all the same. And he's a very, very lucky man.
The finish went over like a wet fart because the
fans were not happy about Ricochet pinning Oku. Maybe out
of this we'll get a singles match at some point
between Rikoshet and Michael Oak who maybe that's what this

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is leading to. I don't know, but seriously, that bump
was so dangerous and stupid and he's just lucky to
be in one piece. Tecla, Julia Hart, Sky Blue and
Megan Bain beat Willow Nightingale, Harley Cameron, Chris Statlander, and
Queen am Nada after Bain ducked the clothes line from Statlander,

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who then accidentally hit Willow, and that led into the
finish with Bain pinning Harley Cameron. You know, at some
point before the end of the year, perhaps this Frenemi
stuff which Statlander and Willow will actually pay off in
some way. Maybe we'll actually get some forward movement in
this story, because it just feels like we've been stuck
in neutral for months with this stuff. And closing out

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the pre show match number four, the Ops the Trio's
champion Samoa Joe, Powerhouse Hobbs, Katiori Shabata. They beat Clark Conners,
Drilla Maloney and Bobby X of the Bullet Club war
Dogs from New Japan Pro Wrestling to retain the aw
Trios titles. So everybody got to be on the show. Now,

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we had already seen thirty wrestlers, thirty in action here
on the show before we even got to the main card,
which opened with Adam Copeland and Christian Cage in their
first match tag teaming together in fourteen years, taking on
kill Switch and Kip Sabian. Kill Switch, of course the

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replacement for Nick Wayne, who broke his foot legitimately a
couple of weeks ago. He got bounced out of this match.
Kill Switch, Lucasaurus, call him whatever you want to. He's
been out all year. We haven't seen him since last summer,
right last fall. Last summer, he had a very serious
health situation. We talked about this on the review on
Wednesday night. It was very touch and go there for

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a while, very very serious stuff, potentially life threatening. He
made it through. Good to see him back, so he
stepped in for Nick Wayne. Now, the fans that sing
along here at the beginning. Copeland came out first and
the fans that a sing along to alter Bridge everybody
in the building. I mean, this was as loud we
always hear them kind of pick up with the song

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when the song ends and they keep singing. This was
as loud as any crowd has done it. I think
since Copeland debuted here in aw and loud enough that
even alter Bridge on Twitter reacted to what they saw here.
When they saw the clip, they were very impressed. So
Cage was punching Sabian in the corner early on here,
and he scurried over to tag in kill Switch. Christian

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refused to fight him be tagged out right away to Copeland,
who just looked over at him like really, dude, mother,
Wayne got in Copeland's face outside long enough for kill
Switch to use Sabian as a projectile. He picked his
own partner up at a power bomb position and just
threw him at Copeland. Kill Switch was throwing corner shots
until Sabian tagged himself in and the fans booed. I

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should mention that Brian Danglson was on commentary for most
of the matches here on this show, and he said
that this was the same disrespect that Christian had shown
Killswitch in the past. That's what Sabian was doing to
him here. Later in the match, Sabian, who ended up
bleeding from the eye, screamed at kill Switch to tag him,

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so Killswitch hit an overhand shot for a tag and
then chucked him into the ring. Christian wanted a tag
mother Wayne, though pulled him off the apron. Copeland was
able to fight off kill Switch and Sabian and tag
out to Christian, who finally faced his fear. He started
throwing shots at kill Switch, only to run into a
head butt. So there was a power bomb out of
the corner by Copeland and a head butt from Christian Cage. Killswitch,

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though kicked out at one Sabian made the blind tag
as Copeland and Cage hit a double impaler DDT on
kill Switch. Bryce Ramsburg, though couldn't make the count. Kill
Switch stood on the apron and grabbed Christian by the throat.
Copeland speared kill Switch through the ropes to the floor.
Cage ran into a knee from Sabian, who went for

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a kill switch himself. Cage those shoved him into the ropes.
Christian popped Sabian up while Copeland returned to the ring
and speared him, and then Christian covered a bloody kip
Sabian to win it for his team. After the match
was over, Christian offered Copeland a handshake, which he accepted.
Copeland then went for a hug and Christian let him

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hug him, but again he didn't reciprocate. He seemed very
uncomfortable about the entire situation. Solid Opener I looked at
this as sort of an appetizer to the main course,
which is coming, I assume in Toronto when Copeland and
Christian take on FTR, that has to be the direction,
whether it's all out or not. Right, we know that
they're headed for a match with FTR at some point,
so they didn't really need to give too much away here,

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and they told the story though of Kip Sabian disrespecting
the dinosaur in the same way that Christian used to do,
and if you think back to it before he went
away with his health issues, they seemed to be building
to a split where he was not going to tolerate
this shit anymore with Christian, and they were doing the
same thing here with kill Switching and Kip Sabium. No

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signs of dissension between Copeland and Christian. A couple of
funny spots in there, like when he immediately tagged out
to Copeland because he didn't want to wrestle kill Switch.
But outside of that they worked like a well, they
work like a team that actually had wrestled a few
matches together back in the day. I don't know how
many matches they had, maybe maybe a couple, but they

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wrestled like they used to be Tag team champions at
some point. It's crazy. So we'll see if Christian learns
to fully embrace his old self. I hope not. Copeland
called him an asshole on Wednesday. He should, he should
remain an asshole. That's the version of Christian I want
to see. We had Kyle Fletcher defending the TNT Championship

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against New Japan's Hiromu Takahashi. They had the lead announcer
for New Japan, Walker Stewart. I was gonna say they
head Walker Stewart on commentary, who's very very good at
what he does, and again very very young, only twenty
three years old, and carries himself like a ten year vet.

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So he tagged in on commentary here. He replaced Tony
Schavani on the call for this match, and Don Callus
joined as well. Danielson said that he hoped Callus would
have brought the oil painting with him of Fletcher and himself,
but Callus said he's working on one of Danielson his
headstone got a little dark there. Fletcher hit a lagerbomb

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showed frustration over not being able to get the pin.
Horomu started laughing in response to Fletcher hitting him with
rolling elbows. Takahashi ran into a big boot. Fletcher covered him,
but Takahashi kicked out of one. Kyle set up for
a brainbuster on the apron and Horomu countered into a
DDT back inside Fletcher's stuff. Takahashi's time bomb finish and

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Kyle set up for something, but Takahashi counter with a
destroyer for a nice near fall. Both men reverse tombstone
pile driver attempts, and eventually Fletcher hit one for a
two count. Fletcher wanted a brainbuster, Takahashi rolled through into
a cradle. Fletcher held on though, and rolled into a
sheer drop brainbuster and picked up the win. It started slow,

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but it picked up big time in the second half.
Some good near falls. I mean, the finish was never
in dowb and that was one of the issues with
a lot of matches up and down this show, especially
the championship matches. The outcomes were just never endowed. Nobody
believed that, you know, Kyle Fletcher, twenty three days or
twenty four days into his run as TNT champion, was
losing to Horomu, you know who popped up on TV

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once in the build to this show. Nobody believed Mercedes
Monet was losing her championship and so on, so that
was always working against this match. No matter how good
it was. That drama, you just weren't going to be
able to get that drama. But it was the expected
good match that you would think these two would have,
and it was a competitive win for Fletcher. Again, he's
not even thirty days into his title runs, so you know,

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to get a competitive win like this and more like
these will help him along the way. We had a
four way I mentioned Mercedes. We had a four way
match for the TBS Championship with Mercedes nine belts. Yes,
she has nine belts now as of Friday night. Mercedes

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Monette defending the TBS Championship against Alex Winza representing AEW,
Persephone representing CMLL, and Bozilla representing Stardom. Mercedes entered last.
Of course, she got the elaborate entrance because she's the champion.
She entered with eight royal guards lining each side, four

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on each side, and it just so happens that she
has nine belts, one of them being the TBS title,
was around her waist, the other eight, Each one was
held by one of the royal guards. Again, four on
this side, four on that side. Everybody has a champion.
That's the way it is here. Everybody gets a championship.
So that was the big elaborate entrance for her. At

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least she didn't have to carry them all. She's going
to get to a point, you know, when she hits ten,
and she will get ten titles. I don't know what
the tenth one is going to be. They'll just make
one up. It's not like half these belts mean a
fucking thing anyway, most of them don't. But when she
gets to ten, I do wonder what she's she gonna
have to have, like a wheelbarrow that she drags behind her.
She's not the biggest person to begin with, so ten championships.

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It's a bit of a you know, a bit of
an issue here because she travels everywhere with these belts.
It's got to be a nightmare. I'm sure it's not
as much of a nightmare as having, you know, hundreds
of yellowjackets in your apartment, but it's probably pretty close.
But she didn't have to worry about that tonight. So
Bozilla early in this match, pressed Mercedes over her head

(27:53):
and tossed her onto Windsor and Persephone. At ringside, Windsor
and Persephone they work together. At one point, Ian Danielson
mentioned on commentary that they have been tag team partners
in the past, so they know each other. Danielson mentioned that, well,
he mentioned something else, but it actually was irrelevant. So
there was a big tower of doom spot with Mercedes

(28:15):
on top, which left all four women down money, put
Windsor and Persephone in a double statement maker, which they
eventually escaped. Bozilla returned she clubbed Windsor, but Danielson said
it reminded him of Vader. Actually, I could have sworn,
you know, when Bosilla came out here, she had this
mask on, and I mean, unless it was from the

(28:38):
pyro at ringside, it looked like it was smoking. And
I remember when Vader first debuted in WCW, his helmet
would smoke. So I don't know if that was intentional,
if she's borrowing some inspiration from from Vader or not,
but I had thought the same thing when she came
out during her entrance, but that's how she was treated

(29:00):
and booked in this match. He was the monster, you know,
she was the monster of the match here. So then
Bosilla put both Persephone and Windsor down and hit a
moonsaw from the middle rope onto them. Monette returned to
the ring to break up the pin. Mercedes went for
a poison RNA and spiked Bosilla on her head. Bosilla

(29:21):
was barking at Persephanie a little bit later on, who
was down on the floor, and Persephanie got pissed, returned
to the ring and actually got Bosilla up and dropped
her with a razor's edge. And Bosilla was by far
the biggest, physically most imposing woman in the match, so
that was kind of impressive getting her up for the
razor's edge like that. Windsor put Persephone in a submission

(29:41):
hold that Mercedes broke up. Persephanie hoisted Monet up for
a razor's edge, but Monette rolled through into a pinning
combination and got the pin to retain the TBS Championship.
One of those flash pins that just comes out of nowhere,
and she is still the TBS Champion. It had its moments,
It had its moments. There just wasn't much done coming

(30:03):
into this match to you know, generate any real interest
in it. Nor did anyone actually believe that Mercedes was
going to lose her title. So it was just a
matter of like, who is she going to pin? You know,
is it gonna be Alex windsor is it gonna be
somebody from one of the other companies. It ended up
being Persephone. But no matter how much they put over
on commentary, the element of danger that she was in here,

(30:25):
you know, how, she didn't have to be pinned to
lose her championship. And four women in this match, which
means that's three other people who could very well take
her title away from her. Oh my god. You know,
her title has never been in this much jeopardy. It's like, no,
I don't think that anybody honestly believes that, no matter
how hard you try to communicate that. I know that's

(30:46):
their job to try to do so, but it wasn't
gonna work. I will say this though, for an audience
that may not be familiar with Persephone or may not
be familiar with bo more so Bozilla, I mean She's
twenty one years years old, she's only been wrestling for
three years, she's only been in stardom for two months,
and she was representing stardom in this match. Most people,

(31:08):
I dare say, are probably not familiar with her and
have never seen her wrestle before. Didn't know hardly anything
about her other than she's second generation Olf. Herman is
her father. She's twenty one. It's about all I know.
It's about all anybody knows. So if you're somebody who
for the first time, you're getting to see this woman,
I thought that she did very, very well. I thought
she was very impressive. She had some memorable spots here

(31:31):
in this match. She was really good playing the monster role.
You know, she played her part so much so that
if I'm Stardom, I'm making now she's only been there
two months. I don't know what her contract status is,
but if I'm Stardom, I am locking her down as
quickly as possible because the sharks are circling. Is what
happened a few years ago for Bidden Door when Mercedes

(31:53):
worked with Stephanie Vicaierre. Now, wwe already knew who Stephanie was.
They already had eyes on her, but it took that
match to kind of be like, all right, we got
to act on this now, and then within weeks she
was signed right, and WWE had her all locked up.
So if I'm stardom, I'm trying to get her locked
down for a certain period of time because WWE is
going to be watching, and you know AW is going

(32:15):
to be watching, and they're gonna want to get their
hands on Bozilla. So I'm just saying, they want to
hold on to her, I better take care of that
real suit if she isn't already signed now. He had
Zach Saber Junior, the IWGP World Heavyweight Champion, defending his
championship against Nigel McGinnis, who had Daniel Garcia in his corner.

(32:40):
Daniel Garcia was in the four way match on Collision
last week where Nigel became number one contender, and it
was after that match and obviously Danny was, you know,
very down in the dumps over losing, but it was
Nigel who extended a hand and said, I want you
to be in my corner and it's a screamed angle
alert to me, so he was out there in Nigel's corner.

(33:03):
They aired a video package here before any of the
entrances that showed McGinnis meeting up with the legendary Johnny
Saint in a park somewhere in London, and then they
sit down and they're playing chess and we got a
dialogue back and forth and they're they're talking to each
other and McGinnis finally calls checkmate and Johnny says, now

(33:25):
you're getting it. Now go do that again. At Forbidden Door,
Nigel comes out. No Oasis theme for Nigel mcguinnis just
for I thought for old time's sake. Tony might pay
to use it here, but no Dice. Brian Danielson was
giddy like a kid calling this match. This. I mean,
this was just right up his alley. This was just

(33:47):
a technical wrestling clinic. This is what he lives for.
If you remember when Danielson was on the WWE network,
he was on commentary calling the Cruiserweight Classic many years ago.
Might have been him and Morrow doing the Cruiserweight Classic,
and he was just in his element. He really like,
that's the Brian Danielson that we got here on commentary.

(34:09):
Walker Stewart also replaced Tony Schavanni. Again we got a
holy shit chant that broke out as soon as the
bell rang. The fans then switched to a this is
Wrestling chant. Saber caught McGuinness in a submission hold. Garcia
at one point pushed the rope forward to help McGinnis
a couple of times, and the referee caught him and
admonished him, told him to back off, and Danielson questioned

(34:33):
how upset Nigel would be if Garcia ended up getting
him disqualified. McGinnis turned Saber inside out with a lariat
and then followed up with a short arm clothes line
that yet again turned him inside out. McGinnis covered Saber,
who had a bloody nose at this point for a
near fall. Saber caught McGinnis in an arm bar over

(34:53):
the ropes, and Saber broke the hold that the four
count then dropped to the floor, got right up in
Garcia's face. Garcia, you know, he held back, but Saber
knew what he was doing. He was trying to rattle
his cage. Saber went to the ropes, he got cut
off by McGinnis, who hit the Tower of London. McGinnis
went for the pin. Saber, though, put his foot on

(35:13):
the bottom rope right in front of Garcia for the break.
Both men traded pin attempts, including a European clutch by
Saber that only got two. More pin attempts followed, led
to Saber catching McGinnis with the flash pin in one
of them to retain the IWGP championship. After the match
was over, McGinnis was very upset. Saber, though, shook his

(35:36):
hand and gave him the ring out of respect. Now
Tony Shavanni was in the ring, so I'm thinking, okay,
here we go. Here comes the angle because now Garcia
is getting into the ring, Nigel's in the ring, Saber
has left. Why is Tony Shavanni there? Right? He's going
to get some postmatch comments, and the fans also thought
something was about to happen. Garcia just blew past them,

(35:58):
blew past the Chavanni. He spun me a Guinness around
and he gave him a hug and then they left.
Shravanni then ended up being there just to announce the attendance,
which he said was eighteen nine hundred and ninety two.
So if you round that up, nineteen thousand people, which
was the largest pro wrestling crowd ever at the two.

(36:21):
But see that's what happens when you really stop giving
as much of a shit about how many people are
in the building and you just start charging exorbitant prices
to set gate records. That's that's also what we're seeing
going on these days. But good for them. They now
own the all time pro wrestling attendance record at the
O two Arena in London. That now belongs to Tony

(36:43):
Kahan and aaw so good on them. It's good to
see them get a healthy crowd like that. But in
the UK again, in the UK that's one of their strongest,
if not frankly their strongest fan base. They put almost
eighty thousand people in Wembley Stadium a few years ago.
Then they came back and put fifty thousand people in
Wembley Stadium. Now they put almost twenty thousand people here

(37:03):
at the two. They're going back to Wembley next year.
That'll be very interesting to go from eighty to fifty.
They took a year off, now they're going to go
back to Wembley in twenty twenty six. What kind of
crowd are they going to do in twenty twenty six, Well,
they have will Osprey back in time for that show
in twenty twenty six. That'll be very interesting. As far
as the match, it was a great technical style wrestling match,

(37:26):
as you would expect. I would expect nothing less from
these two. There wasn't any kind of story, so you
were going into it just hoping for a great wrestling match.
There wasn't even any time to develop a story. You know,
Sabers the IWGP champion, so he's coming over from Japan.
The g one just wrapped up. Nigel just became number
one contender in a four way match. The story if

(37:47):
there was going to be one, what is going to
be between McGinnis and Garcia. So all that there was
here was the potential for a great professional wrestling match,
and that's what these two went out there and had.
I'm happy for Nigel that he was able to get
that moment. You could tell it meant a lot to him.
And as far as the Garcia stuff is concerned, I mean,
I'm thinking the heel turn is coming. Didn't happen tonight,

(38:10):
I do feel it's coming soon. Tonight was not the night. Now.
They cut to the back after this match and we
see Tecla and Queen Ami Nada and they are brawling backstage,
presumably still from their match on the pre show that
was two hours ago, so we are led to believe.

(38:32):
I guess that these women have been brawling for the
past two hours. Now they brawl out into the arena.
They're in the isleway. Sky Blue and Julia Hart run
out to assist Tecla to make it a three on one,
and the two of them are holding Ami Nada for Tecla,
who does her spider pose and shout out to the

(38:53):
late bray Wyatt. Made me think of bray Wyatt passed
away two years ago. You believed that two years It's crazy,
But she does her spider pose and that is the
cue for them to hit Jamie Hayter's music and out
she comes and all the fans of the O two
in London they go crazy for her. We have not
seen Jamie Hayter since her loss in Mercedes Monet and

(39:15):
the Owen Hart Tournament. What was that at this point
three months ago, four months ago. It's been a while.
So Sky Blue and Julia Hart they get leveled. Tecla
dodges the hater Aide clothesline and the triangle of madness
they bail. Hater goes to ten two Ami Nada. I
have to say, you know, the Ami Nada techless stuff

(39:38):
has been from what I've seen of it. I've seen
some of the collision stuff, and I've seen whatever they've
done on dynamite, which is rare for them to be
on dynamite. But it's a solid, you know, mid card
women's few that really comes off like these two women
don't like each other. They've done a really good job
of building up this bad blood between them, so this
is not like a random sort of thing here. I mean,

(40:00):
this is something that has been building and building and
building for weeks. These two women do not like one another,
so I like that aspect of it, and I definitely
think they could be doing more with both women, including
am Nada, and hopefully we'll see them continue to ascend
in the division. Great to see Jamie hayterback. That was
a brutal it was like a DDT. I remember her
head got spiked into the mat in that match with Mercedes,

(40:22):
and I don't know if that's what put her out,
but I would be shocked if it wasn't. So thankfully
she's back now and if they can get her back healthy,
that's a huge addition to the women's division, and she
was saying into the camera, She's coming for Tekla. Now,
after this, we had what was originally listed as an
elimination three way match for the aw Tag Team Championship.

(40:46):
It ended up not being an elimination match, and there
was nothing said about this. It just wasn't an elimination match.
So very odd that they would announce it as one
and listed in the graphic is one and then it
ends up not being an elimination match. Make of that
what you will. With the Hurt Syndicate defending their titles
against FTR and against Brodido, the team of Brody King

(41:07):
and the Ring of Honor World champion Bandido, MVP was
not out there with the Hurt Syndicate. Also very strange
why he wasn't there. Both teams went aft because he
was there on Wednesday. You know, they were in Glasgow,
so he was on the show on Wednesday. I'm not
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both teams went after the champions at the start. One
of the highlights of this was when Lashly and Brody
King came face to face in the ring and the
crowd reacted to it in a major way and they
went at it and crowd was really up for it.

(44:03):
Lashly put King down with a spinebuster. Brody, though, popped
right back up dropped Lashly with a clothesline. When Lashley
got up, King clothes lined him over the top rope
to the floor. Bandido performed a fall away Moon Salt
slam while holding Dax Harwood off the top rope onto
the pile of wrestlers on the floor, which was kind
of crazy. Lashly and Benjamin got Brody back in the ring.

(44:26):
Benjamin hit him with a high knee in the corner,
and then Lashley speared Brody went Suddenly everything was going
well here and then all of a sudden, we have
a group of masked wrestlers in New Japan Jackets that
show up at ringside and they attack the hurt Syndicate
and the mass Men. They worked over lashly in Benjamin

(44:48):
with a weapon I think it might have been a pipe.
This was in the aisleway and that effectively eliminated the
Hurt Syndicate from this match because after this they were
a non factor. Meanwhile, Dax blasted Brody in the head
with an unprotected chair shot to the head, which was
very dumb. The Mask Men then revealed themselves to be
Ricochet and the Gates of Agony. You could almost hear

(45:11):
the groan in the building because why right. You look
at this initially and you think, well, why would they
be out here? And there actually is a potential storyline
reason why they would be out there, although this was
never explored. So the timing of the reveal though, was
terrible because when they took the masks off to do
the reveal, it came at the exact moment where there
was a really big near fall taking place in the

(45:32):
ring that we almost missed. So it just felt like
it didn't have the impact that it should have had
for the finish of the match, and this is where
things just fell apart. For the finish of the match,
Brody Monkey flipped his own partner he monkey flipped Bandido
over onto Dax who was on the mat, and he

(45:52):
didn't land it flush, so that looked a little wonky.
But he hooked the leg. Obviously this was supposed to
be the finish. He hooked the leg and things fell
apart because Bandido, he, I don't I didn't even know
what happened. He slipped off of Dax. He like came
off of Dax, but there was nobody there. It's not

(46:13):
like anybody pulled him off or anything like that. So
he slips off Dax briefly, and the referee holds up
his count. Meanwhile, Cash Wheeler dives into the ring as
if he's trying to break up the pin and trying
to make the save, and the spot clearly was going
to be that he you know, he dives in and
he's just he gets there too late, and Brodido gets
the big surprise win. But because the referee held up

(46:34):
and now Wheeler's in the ring, he dove into the
ring and the match is still in progress, and so
Bendido just covers Dax again and then he gets the
three and we have new tag team champions. That is
how the what has been eight months the eight month
reign of the Hurt Syndicate as the Tag Team Champions

(46:55):
comes to an end here and Cash Wheeler ends up
looking like a fucking idiot. This was as bad as
it sounds, not just the botch, but the ricochet and
the gates of agony interference. It just completely ruined the
finish of the match, from the moment they came out
and got involved and then unmasked, and then the shit
finish here. I don't want to say it ruined the

(47:17):
entire match, but it ruined what should have been a
great match, and it definitely took it down a few notches.
This was the first real unpredictable finish of the entire show.
I certainly didn't see Brodido leaving with the tag team titles.
I don't think most people would have seen Brodido leaving
with the tag team titles. If anything, I figured they
were in the match to take the losing fall so

(47:39):
that the Hurt Syndicate wouldn't have to be pinned by FTR.
But instead they actually are the champions, and Bandido now
is a double champion because he's also the Ring of
Honor World Champion. Now he's got himself an aw tag
Team title. There's a story going on here. I'm not
exactly sure what all the details are of this story.

(48:01):
There were reports that came out in the last few
weeks about the Hurt Syndicate and MVP, in particular rejecting
pitches from let's be honest, from Tony Khan. Who else
would it be from to have the Hurt Syndicate drop
the tag team titles as far back as Texas at
all in and to drop them to them at Forbidden
Door that they didn't want to drop the titles to FTR,
and supposedly they had floated other names like the Outrunners

(48:22):
and Private Party who they could drop the tag team
titles to instead in the Gates of Agony, which wouldn't
have made any sense. It's their heels, but apparently not.
FTR and I talked about this, and if any of
that is true, it's completely ridiculous. MVP and the Hurt
Syndicate are not in any position to tell Tony Khan,

(48:43):
you know what, we don't want to lose to these guys. Really,
the whole thing is just completely stupid. But you look
at what happened in Texas, where it would have made
sense for FTR to be a part of the title match,
and they got left off the main car. They were
doing commentary out there for the Hurt Syndicates. That was weird.
Then these reports come out they're doing this tournament, and

(49:06):
I'm like, I think that very well. Can we can
see a draw here in the finals and maybe they'll
send Brodido to the match at Forbidden Door. That's exactly
what ends up happening. And what happens the Hurt Syndicate
gets taken out of the match. Now, I'm not gonna
sit here and tell you that that shocked me. I
was actually expecting that there was a very good chance
that could happen. When I thought this was going to

(49:28):
be an elimination match, I thought they might go for
the shock moment where Brodido actually pins the Hurt Syndicate,
not FTR. They pin the Hurt Syndicate to get them
out of the match. That then guarantees new tag Team champions,
and then FTR goes on to beat Brodido. But then
the elimination stipulation just disappeared with no explanation, and then

(49:52):
sure enough, the Hurt Syndicate they're spared because Ricochet and goa,
they take care of them. They don't have to be
part of the losing fall. And even though I was
expecting something like that and I'm not shocked by it,
I mean that is seriously weak shit. These guys ran
through every single challenger that Tony Khan put in front

(50:13):
of them, from Private Party to the Outrunners to the
Gates of Agony to everybody, everybody, jet Speed, everybody right,
beat them all, some of them worse than others. Finally,
they're going to lose the tag team titles and they
can't even be a part of the losing fall. We
have to protect them, so we're going to have somebody

(50:35):
else get pinned and that's how their eight month reign
as Tag Team Champions is going to come to an end.
So you put all of these things together, and the
one who actually ends up coming out of this I
think looking the worst is Tony Khan, because he should
be able to say, look, I have a vision for
where we want to go here, and it'll mean more

(50:55):
maybe if the Hurt Syndicate actually does, you know, fall
to these guys or those guys, And instead everything they
did here was just very very weak. The match itself
up until the collapse there at the end was actually
very good. But I'm more interested in some of the
behind the scenes going on here, and maybe that'll come out.
We'll see, But I just thought it's a terrible look

(51:16):
for him. It's a terrible look for Tony Kahan, and
it's just very weak that after all this time, the
Hurt Syndicate still couldn't do a job to one of
these two teams and they had to send of all
people ricocheting in the Gates of Agony. You have nothing
to do with any of this stuff, send them out
there to get involved in the finish of this match. Now,
I said that there could be a storyline explanation for this.

(51:38):
I thought maybe it was gonna play itself out in
the World Championship match later in the show, because we
saw on Wednesday that MJF had worked out an arrangement
with Rickosheane the Gates of Agony to attack Mark Briscoe.
They're doing business together. So I see them out there
and I'm like, what the fuck is Rickosheane the Gates
of Agony doing out here. Well, Hurt syndikit kicked them.

(51:59):
JF at the group a few weeks ago, nothing's been
mentioned about it ever since. And I mean there were
reports that a certain someone within the Hurt Syndicate, could
be a certain man possibly whose last name rhymes with Smashley,
didn't want MJF in the group, and that's why it
was so sudden, the way they sort of cut him out.

(52:19):
And that was the end of the storyline. And here
I am thinking, well, maybe there's a way to kind
of circle back to it and at least have MJF
try to get revenge on the Hurt Syndicate. For all
we know, the Hurt Syndicate didn't want to have anything
to do with MJF anymore, and that really is the
end of the story. But you could easily explain it
by saying MJF paid off Ricochet and goa to cost

(52:40):
the Hurt Syndicate the tag team titles. And if the
Hurt Syndicate had a sense that maybe this is what happened,
then maybe they would have showed up during the Hangman
MJF match tonight and cost MJF his chance to become
world champion. But then that didn't happen, So I don't
know if that's the direction they're going in or not.
For this to make any sense whatsoever, it has to

(53:02):
be there's no other logical explanation for why they would
have showed up and doing what they did here in
this match, other than well, maybe they want to start
a program between the Hurt Syndicate and the Gates of Agony.
That would be fucking lame if that's how they set
it up, and that's the only reason we saw them
out here. So we'll wait for TV and see if
they follow up on this, because to me, the only

(53:24):
legitimate explanation for any of this is if MJF was
the one behind it, and if not, then this was very,
very stupid. So now we look at Broddo, they're the
tag team champions. Do they get a short run? Are
they going to immediately drop the belts to FTR anyway?
Because I still feel like FTR is going to end
up with those titles. Are we going into Toronto at

(53:46):
all out next month and having copelanding Christian against FTR
without the titles on the line. You could certainly do that,
but whoever Brodido then defends the titles against unless you
make it a three way, Why the fuck not? The
last two months, the last two pay per views. The
tag team titles have been contested in three ways, why
not go three in a row? Make it a hat trick.

(54:08):
Unless you do that, anybody that Brodido defend the tag
team titles against in Toronto, that match, that tag team
championship match, is playing second fiddle to Cope in Christian
in Canada Wrestling FTR, So why would you want your
tag team titles to play second fiddle? It would almost
be better to have Brodido in there and make it
a three way. Like you gave away Copeland and Christian

(54:31):
their first match in fourteen years tonight on this show.
That was the attraction in Toronto. You gave it away tonight.
That's fine. The next attraction would be them challenging for
the tag team titles, but to do that they would
have to wrestle FTR. So could FTR end up with
the belts between now and then? It's certainly possible, but
it's almost like a no win situation now, because you've

(54:52):
now changed the tag team titles once, do you really
want to change the tag team titles again in the
next couple of weeks and then potentially a third time
at all out Because now you're just hot shotting it,
and that don't see as being a good thing. So
I don't know how long Brodido was going to have
these belts for. I don't think they're going to have

(55:14):
them for very long. But yeah, I don't know what
they would then do in Toronto unless you add them
to that match with Copeland and Christian and FTR, if
we assume that's the direction that we're headed in. So
it was a very surprising decision here. Like I said,
the first really unpredictable finish on the entire show, and

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things were going pretty well until we hit the last
ninety seconds or so and then this just fell apart.
We had Kazuchka Okata defending the Continental Championship against Swerve Strickland.
I'm sorry, the Unified Championship. This god so many fucking

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belts in this company. He's still carrying around the Continental
title and the International title, but it's the Unified Championship.
I stand corrected. I got to get my title straight
here in this company, So he was defending the unified title.
Jim Ross joined on commentary for this one and immediately
was disappointed that he had to be seated next to

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Don Kallous continental title rules. See this is why I
was confused. Continental title rules were enforced here in this match,
which meant no interference allowed, which meant Prince Nana had
to go to the back. Prince Nana could not be
at ringside for this match. But Don Kallis who manages Okada,
he was allowed at ringside because he was doing commentary.

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Why can't Prince Nana say hey, I want to do
commentary too. He didn't think to do that, so Nana
had to stay in the back, But it was okay
for Don Callous to be out there right. Ridiculous. That
will never not be ridiculous. I don't care how many
times this happens. It will never not be ridiculous. Now, Swer,
for those who don't know, is dealing with a legitimate

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knee injury. He has a torn meniscus in his knee.
He has had that torn meniscus in his knee for
six years. When he tore his miniscus, he was at
the WWE Performance Center. That's how long he's had this for.
And evidently whatever happened, he aggravated it recently and it's
become a real issue. Prior to tonight, he had not

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wrestled since a match with I Believe at Cicero on
July twenty third, and there was a report that Tony
Khan has had him working with the medical team from
the Jacksonville Jaguars trying to get him whatever aid he
needs to heal or at least heal up enough to
be in this match. And you know, watching him out there,
he was fine. I mean, he didn't look like he

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was limping around or anything until he was selling as
part of the match, so I mean he was able
to work the match fine. But they incorporated that into
the story of the match. Early on, he got sent
over the top rope, he landed on his feet, for example,
and he begins to sell the knee. Okada had a
long run of offense. Swerve came back and held Ocata's
wrist as both men got to their feet. Swerve then

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hit him with a few clothed lines, hit a stomp
from the middle rope, and then covered Okada for two.
Swerve ended up on the ropes. Okada shoved him and
it caused Swerve's leg to bend at a very awkward
angle and he got his leg caught in the ropes.
Okada joined him on the ropes and then drove Swerves
knee into the top turn buckle. Strickland missed the swerve

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stomp off the apron on the floor. He came up limping.
Okada answered with a tombstone and back inside. There were
some short arm lariats from Okata, who tried a rain maker.
Strickland counter though into a house call kick. Swerve got
a series of short arm lariats of his own. He
wanted another one, actually another house call. Okada saw it

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coming with a dropkick, though Strickland avoided a rain maker.
Okata hit another drop kick. A third rain maker attempt
got countered, this time with Strickland hitting a pop up
power slam. The swerve stomp was delivered, but at what cost?
At what cost? Strickland came up clutching his bad leg.
Okada rolled out to the apron. He cut off Swerve

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in the corner, hit a knee breaker on the top turnbuckle.
Swerve managed to fire off a desperation house call kick,
but as he called for one more, Okada ducked it
and hit the rain maker. And all it took was
one one rain maker and he got the win. I
like that. After the match was over, Okada got swerves

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right knee between the ring post and the ring steps,
and he just started battering him with share shots. Prince
Nana finally ran out with a pipe. All these pipes.
Who is laying down all this pipe all over the
place here in aw his pipes everywhere. So he runs
out with a pipe. Caused Okada to drop the chair
and he exits stage left. Okada and callus. They're standing

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in the aisleway and they're looking on as someone appears
behind Prince Nana in the ring. And I'm looking at
this guy and I think I know who it is,
but it's a little hard to tell at first. It's
not like I had this guy on the brain thinking
he was going to be back any time soon. But
sure enough, I'm looking and it is Wardlow. He's back.

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The last time we saw Wardlow in the ring, probably
the last time we saw Wardlow at all, was Big Business,
the Big Business episode of Dynamite That was in March
of last year. That was the night Mercedes Monet made
her debut in aew It has been almost eighteen months

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since we have seen Wardlow. Now I know he had
some I think a knee issue and I know recently
he was off filming American Gladiators, which is being hosted
by the MIZ. Might have to check that out when
it comes out. So eighteen months later, he has returned.
After a much failure in his career, Wardlow has returned,

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and I thought the the reaction on commentary for this
was actually pretty underwhelming. It wasn't as underwhelming as when
Christian returned to WWE as part of ECW, but it
was pretty underwhelming. Wardlow closed line Prince Nana. Then he
mounted Nana and he started throwing punches down at him.
Swerves in the corner looking up at this and he's helpless,

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got the bad knee, and he just he can't do
anything to save as his friend. All he could do
is watch. Security geeks entered the ring to hold back Wardlow,
and that did not go very well for them, because
that's what makes them security geeks. They're not very good
at their job. So Wardlow beats them up, single file,
one by one. He closed lines one guy, he power
bombs another guy, the other guy eight and f five.

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Wardlow then exited the ring and he goes over and
he gives a hug to Don Callous and Kazuchka Okada
confirming that he is indeed either part of the Callous
family or a hired gun. I mean part of the family,
and let's just call it what it is. He's part
of the don Kallis family. Josh Alexander comes out as well,

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Et Cicero, Kyle Fletcher, Lance Archer, Rocky Romero. They all
make their way out to celebrate with these guys in
the aisle way. They're all welcoming Wardlow into the family.
Kenoski to ketch. His music hits and everybody cheers and
he gets his own separate entrance And what's going to
happen here? What does he think about all this? Right?
The winner of the g One Climax. He just got

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back from Japan. He comes down the aisle and he
goes face to face with Wardlow. Then he smirks and yeah,
he didn't shake his hand or hug him or anything,
but he kind of fell back in line and everything's
cool and the family is all together. The don Kallis
family stuff is just out of control. It seriously, I

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made the combat. I'm like watching this and I'm like,
I think there may be more members of the don
Kallis family than I have had yellowjackets in this apartment
all weekend. That's a lot, Okay. So there's a lot
of members. And I counted eight out there tonight. Okay.
So I counted eight members. And that, by the way,
that doesn't include that doesn't even include Trent Burretta, who

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wasn't there. And that doesn't include Brian Cage who wasn't
there because Brian Cage had a knee replacement a few
months ago, so he is still recuperating from that. I
would assume he's still technically part of the family when
he comes back, he'll be part of the family. With
Lance Archer. They were doing the tech team thing, the
Murder Monsters. So we have ten official members of the

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Don Kallis family. I mean, it's like the bloodline. It's
like their bloodline, but without the tribal tats. That's basically
what we have here. This family just keeps growing, it
keeps multiplying. I don't even know that Bobby Headon had
this many members in the Heenan family. This was o'cotta's
first title defense since he won the championship and beat

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Kenny Omega. They spent time here in the build up
to this match, you know, playing the last couple weeks
really playing up swerves knee injury, which came out of
nowhere because it was never mentioned before. And all of
a sudden last week on TV, Swerve comes out and
there's this mention of a knee injury. I'm like, what
are you talking about? What knee injury? So it's a
real injury, and they incorporated it, you know, into the story.

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But it just came out of nowhere because nothing was
really mentioned about this beforehand. All of a sudden, that
became the story and that also became an out for
Swerve because he was favoring the knee and I mean, honestly,
Okada beat him straight up if we're being honest here,
but the knee did play a factor here in the loss,
and then they did the injury angle after the match.

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The Swerve is going to be going away for a while.
The match itself, it was good. It was not at
the level of a lot of the matches that Swerve
has had just this year alone, or the Okada match
with Kenny Omega, all In those you know, all those matches,
the matches Swerve has had, and the all In match
with Kenny and Ocada. Those were, you know, much better

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than this. It was still a good match putting Wardlow
with the Callus family. Look, it's good to see him
back on TV. I'll believe it when I see it
when it comes to a serious Wardlow push that actually
leads to something, because we've been burned by this before.
I think Wardlow he got over in a big way
three years ago. It's been a long time since Wardlow

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reached his peak of popularity in aw was after the
split with MJF. A lot of shit has gone down
since then, including injuries, but also a lot of bad booking.
As as much as the injuries may have read Tafick
with things, so has Tony Kahn's booking of Wardlow, and
he should not be excused for that. So whatever momentum

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this man had three years ago where it looked like, hey,
you know, he could be a really big homegrown star,
like in the way they're pushing Kyle Fletcher now, and
they put the TNT title on him. They put the
TNT title on Wardlow one point two. But it didn't
work out. And it's not like Wardlow all of a sudden,
like he started to have shitty matches or stop carrying.
You know, they had nothing to do with that. It

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was just a series of unfortunate circumstances in bed booking
that led to this man being impurgatory for three years.
So now he's back, and the first thing they do
is they lump him into another faction. We've seen this
story before. He was in the Pinnacle and then he
was part of the Undisputed Kingdom and how did that
work out? That didn't work out too well. Now they're

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going to try again. We'll have him in the Callus
Family and he'll be one of ten fucking people in
this group. So it's incumbent upon them to do something
with him that is going to make him stand out
amongst ten people in this group. That's my concern with
lumping him into this this faction. Kyle Fletcher, he's doing okay.

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He's the kind of the crown jewel of the group
and takeshta. Where does Wardlow fit into this? Can they
build a story around Wardlow and have him, maybe at
some point down the road, be a breakout star? I hope, So,
I hope there's some kind of plan here for him.
But what I see right now is he's back, and
you've just like Josh Alexander, Josh Alexander debut and aw

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and within a week he became a background player in
the don Kallis family. He's just in the background. I
don't want to see that happen to Wardlow. There's still
the potential there for him to be something special. If
you can find the right story and you book him
in the right way and he can stay healthy, there
could still be something there. It's harder to do when

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you're just one of ten. You know, we see tons
of factions, tons of wrestling factions on TV every single
week WWEAW Some factions are bigger than others. Some have
three or four people, some have five or six. You
start talking about nine, ten, eleven, you know a dozen
different people. You're getting into nWo territory here, and that

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isn't necessarily a good thing. But it's only the first
night he's back. That's the first step. We'll see where
they go from here. All I can tell you is
the one thing I am convinced of. I stand steadfast
in this Okada and the Unified Championship, the match to
Bill to Okada and Takeshta, Takesha will be that first

(01:08:18):
breakout babyface star from this group and it will come
through Okada and beating Okada to win the unified title.
I do believe that. Now after this, we had timeless
Tony Storm against Athena for the aw Women's World Championship,

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having cashed in her Casino Gauntlet contract here to get
this shot. It was an early baseball slide that sent
Athena crashing into the barricade, and when Billy Starks, who
was out there at Athena's corner, tried to get into
Tony's face, she suffered a quick Storm zero For her troubles.
Athena flew in with a shotgun dropkick caused to hit

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the led barricade, not super hard, but I guess it
was hard enough that they deactivated the LED board it
went out, so it was all Athena. After that, she
drove Tony's head repeatedly into the ring post. Later in
the match, Tony had Athena in a chicken wing, but
Athena broke free, flung Tony out to the floor, and

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then she hit her with a suicide dive. Athena set
up for a pile driver on the ring steps, but
Storm bit her knee and then tripped her, which caused
Athena's head to hit the ring steps. Storm sent Athena
into the barricade, and wouldn't you know what the led
board it got turned back on back in the ring,
Storm hit Storm zero only for a earfall. Ex Caliber

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called it like any other sequence. Tony Shavanni called it
a monumental kickout. A monumental kickout, he said, it might
have been. It might have been if we hadn't seen
a bunch of other people already kick out of it,
including Mercedes Monet just last month in Texas, who kicked
out of three of them, then it might have been

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a monumental kickout. Monumental is not the word I would
use for it. So Storm got Athena on the apron
set up for Storm zero. Billy Starks yanked on the
ring skirt until Storm released Athena, and Storm then stared
at Billy while Athena went up top hid an o face,
but it was only to hang Tony's neck over the
top rope because she was standing on the apron. Starks

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grabbed a chair when Mina Shirakawa, who's been out I believe,
with a broken hand, and so she ran out there.
She took the chair away from Billy and then chased
her to the back. Inside the ring, both women traded
pen attempts. Athena came off the top rope for another
o face, but she dove into the clutches of the
TCM chicken wing, and she struggled and she fought and

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she tried to resist, but in the end she taps
out and timeless. Tony Storm remains your aw Women's World Champion.
They gave Athena a lot of offense here. They had
a good match. I know they could have an even
better match. This was not on the level of the
match that Tony had with Mercedes in Texas last month.

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You know what, I know some people are going to
have a real issue with Athena tapping out. I didn't
really mind it so much. It didn't bother me because
I like that Tony has demonstrated now that she has
another way to beat you. You know, it's not just
Storm zero, but she has the chicken wing. So I
like it when people have a couple of different signature moves,

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two or three even that they could potentially beat you with.
With the loss, though Athena has now wasted her Casino
Gauntlet contract. She had her shot, she squandered it. She
is not the AW Women's Champion. What happens now? The
worst thing that could happen is that back to Ring
of Honor with you. You're banished back to ROH because she's

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still the ROH Women's Champion, the forever champion. And I
said coming into the show, she's not winning the championship.
I'd love to see it, but there's only room for
one belt collector on this show in that division. I
guess Bandido is a belt collector now too. He's got
two titles, but in the women's division, there's only room
for one belt collector, can't have more than one. So

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if she had dropped the ROH title prior to this,
I would have bought into the idea a little bit
more that, you know what, maybe she'll win. But I
never honestly believed she was going to win the championship.
So now that she hasn't, and you would assume Tony
Storm is just going to move on to the next
I don't know what that means for Athena's future. She
should remain on the active AW roster. She should remain

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on AW television. I don't know who she would feud
with next. There's plenty of women in the division. If
she's not wrestling for the championship, obviously she'll be pushed down.
I don't know if they might want to revisit Mercedes
and Athena at some point. They're both heels. They might
not want to do that. They were just tag team
partners the other night on TV. But she belongs on

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the AW women's roster. She's going to have to drop
the ROH title at some point. That's fine, she could
still do those matches, but I don't want this to
be a case where she had her shot and she
just disappears back into the ABYSS. That would be terrible.
That's the one thing I do not want to see.
She needs to be a regular on TV. As far

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as Tony Storm. She has now pinned the TBS Champion.
She has now pinned the Ring of Honor forever Women's Champion.
Where does she go from here? I don't know who's left.
Who's left? She beat Mercedes, she beat Athena, she banished
Mariah May, she beat Megan Bain. Who's next? Who's left?

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There's two names that strike me, you got Chris Statlander.
Chris Statlander is in the middle of a feud in
the middle of the car with Willow Nightingale. That doesn't
seem very likely. And then there is a certain someone
who just returned on the show tonight by the name
of Jamie Hayter. Jamie Hater and Tony Storm have a
history together. In fact, the last time Jamie Hater was

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the aw Women's World Champion, if I remember correctly, she
was beaten by Tony Storm back when she was still
part of the Oh my god, what was the group
that she was a part of with Ruby Riot and
Soraya on the Outcast the Outcasts? And also I believe
they had a match at Full Gear a few years

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ago that was really good. So there's history there between them.
Now Jamie just came back. She's going to be feuding
with Tecla for a while. It's not going to be
an overnight thing. But if she can stay healthy, you
begin to build her back up to that level within
a few months. You could do Jamie Hater and Tony
Storm for the Women's World Championship. I would love to
see it. I would love to see those two women

(01:14:43):
back in the ring together. I don't see there being
another obvious name that jumps out at me right now
far as who that next challenger, or even who that
woman could be that's finally going to take that title
from her. They go back to Mercedes after Mercedes loses
the TBS title. That's not happening at least until October.
So sure, yeah, you can go back to Tony and

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Mercedes in November. Maybe World's end in December. What do
you do now? I don't know. I don't know, but
I would like to see them begin to really build
Jamie Hater up, not not even for the TBS title,
but for this spot. And speaking of titles, we had

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the aw World Championship Hangman Adam Page defending against MJF
with some conditions, and those conditions are as follows. The
title can change hands on a count out, the title
can change hands on a disqualification as well as pinfall
or submission. Now, unlike Athena, this was not for the

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Casino Gauntlet contracts, so he still has that as an
insurance policy. It also made it a lot less likely
that he was going to win the championship in this
match and still have the contract, so it did make
the outcome a little more obvious. Hangman was kicking his
ass early on even sent him over the barricade into
the front row. Hangman grabbed a chair, and Bryce Ramsburg

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got up and warned him, think about what you're about
to do here, right, because he'd be disqualified, he'll lose
his title. So he dumped the chair, but then MJF
sent him into the ring post. Page avoided a heat
seeker and went for the buckshot lariot. MJF countered into
his assault of the earth armbar submission. Page rolled MJF

(01:16:28):
into a pin to break the hold, then put him
in a cross face. MJF rolled Page onto his back
and got a two count that forced Page to release
the hold. MJF went to ringside picked up the timekeeper's
table over his head, which he actually this was kind
of funny because the timekeeper's table had some sort of
like a black cloth over it, so when he picked

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the table out, the black cloth was hanging down, so like,
as he's carrying this table above his head, all you
see is just this black veil under the chair, like
the grim Reaper is walking. And then he places the
table down right at the foot of the aisleway and

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that's where he positions the table. MJF then places Page
on top of the table. He goes up to the ropes.
Page though shot up. He went to the apron. MJF
raked his eyes. He dropped down to the apron. Hangman
knocked MJF to the floor and then hit him with
his Ori harror moonsaal and then hit a tombstone pile driver,

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and both men were down on the floor. Both men
were back on the apron when Page grabbed MJF and
he gave him a dead eye through the table down
on the ground below. And for some reason this was
not a disqualification. Now, I know that MJF is the
one who introduced the table into this situation, but that

(01:17:56):
shouldn't matter. And I've seen situations before on these shows
where somebody uses the steps and people have said, well,
that's not a disqualification because technically the steps are a
part of the ring. Now, of course, none of this
really makes a whole lot of sense, because if that's
the case, like if parts of the ring are all
legal and within bounds, then why the fuck would anybody

(01:18:19):
worry about pulling a turnbuckle? Pad off behind the referees
back right then none of that should matter. So that's
stupid enough. But the table is not part of the ring.
It is a weapon. It is a far an object
that has been introduced into this match. Whether it's in
the ring or on the floor, it shouldn't matter. And Hangman,
Page just put this man through a table. This was
not a disqualification. MJF should be the aw World Champion

(01:18:40):
right then and there, but he's not. The match rolled on.
Page got MJF back inside, he covered him. MJF put
his foot on the bottom rope for the break, Page
set up for a buckshot. MJF throw a rolled to
the floor and then sat down on a chair outside.
Page ran towards MJF, who shot up and used the
drop toll hold to drive Hangman's face down into the chair.

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Then MJF ran Hangman into the ring steps. Then he
looked over at Brian Danielson on commentary and he said,
just like you, he fucking sucks. This is a very
mean thing to say to Brian Danielson. So while that
was going on, Hangman went to the blade because when
they cut back to him, he was busted open MJF

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went back to the ringside. He had a leaping tombstone
pile driver two hangmen on a piece of the broken
table from earlier, and that piece did not break. The
referee started his count. Page returned to the ring just
before the ten count. MJF removed one of the turnbuckle
pads and tried to run Hangman into it. Hangman reversed it,
and MJF came up sporting a crimson mask of his own,

(01:19:50):
and at that point the fans chanted you deserve it
at him, which was kind of funny. So I have
people in the chat saying, not a DQ referees discretion. Well,
the referees are all very stupid in this company, so
I guess that kind of makes sense. When you consider that,
then it all makes sense. So both men reverse tombstone attempts.

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Page actually fell over at one point. They went into
trading pins. That led to a series of two counts
and then one counts. After that, Paige went for a
jackknife pin, but MJF bridged out of it. Page hit
him with a dead I for an ear fall. Page
ordered MJF to stand and fight. MJF is on his knees,
he's looking up at him, and MJF pulls out the

(01:20:36):
dynamite diamond ring. He orders Hangman to use it, go
ahead and use it, because if he uses it, he
gets disqualified, although it's the referees discretion and so maybe not,
but he's telling him, use this, go ahead, I dare
you use it? Right, and Hangman he's tempted to. He's
tempted to, but if he does, he loses his championship.
And then MJF spits at him, spits upright in his face,

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so instead Hangman spits back in mjf's face. MJF then
pulls Bryce Remsburg into Harm's way for a buck shot page,
though stopped short before wiping him out. But then MJF
shoved Hangman into Bryce Ramsburg, who took a bump. MJF
then hit a low blow and a heat seeker to Hangman.

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MJF made the cover. Here comes Bryce Remsburg. He's he's
he took a bump, but it's not like he's knocked
unconscious or anything, so he comes over to make the cover.
Page got his foot of the bottom rope after the
one count. Okay, his foot is plainly on the bottom
rope and inexplicably, Bryce Remsburg, not only is he not

(01:21:40):
looking at the shoulders, not like in a position to
be looking at hangman's shoulders, he's not even looking at
where his feet are. He's just blindly counting. And so
he counts two, and he counts three, and everybody is shocked. Now,
he never officially called for the bell, and they never
played mjf's music, but they zoomed in on MJF. He's
sitting there. Oh my god, look he thinks he won

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the championship, right, and you know what happened here also
is very reminiscent of what happened on Dynamite a few
weeks ago when MJF beat Mark Briscoe, and Mark Briscoe
got his foot on the bottom rope, but MJF moved
it aside. Referee didn't see the foot, and that's how
MJF beat Mark Briscoe, which I assume would earn him
at number one Contenders match. It ended up not really

(01:22:22):
meaning anything. So as all of this is going on,
they hit Mark Briscoe's music, Reach for the sky Boys,
and here he comes, he comes out. He doesn't even
make it to the ring. Security has swarmed him. They
were holding him back from getting in the ring, and
they escorted him right to the back. MJF turns back,

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he sees the foot. Hangman's foot is still on the
bottom rope. Right, like a minute has gone by. His
foot is still on the rope. So he goes over
to try to brush it off. Bryce catches him though,
oh the foot. Now, look, I have seen plenty of
stuff in wrestling matches where the referee says, somebody tries

(01:23:06):
to argue, my foot was on the rope. My foot
was on the rope, like in the moment. They just
got their foot on the rope in time, but the
ref didn't see it. The refs like, I didn't see it.
How do I know you didn't just put your foot
on the rope. Hagman had like at least a minute
maybe ninety seconds, okay, to put his fucking foot on
the bottom rope. But now that Bryce sees the foot,
like a year later, oh the foot is on the

(01:23:28):
bottom rope, this match must content. This was so this
was so dumb. This was this part of the match
was very very dumb. It's just very dumb. But that's twice. Now,
that's twice in the same match that MJF should have
been the AW World Champion and was screwed. I mean,

(01:23:50):
Hangman kind of was screwed if you think about it,
but in his mind screwed out of the championship, which
I'm sure will come up on television this week. So
they both shoved one another. Page hit a lariot. MJF
threw a low blow as he held on to Bryce,
so the referee didn't see it. MJF got a roll

(01:24:10):
up only for two. MJF threw the AW title in
the ring. Remsburg took it away, though, allowing MJF to
hit Page instead with his Casino Gauntlet contract case. He
whacked the shit out of him right in the head
with it. He covered him and Page kicked out it too.
That was a great near fall. MJF went back to
the diamond ring he was about to use it, Bryce

(01:24:31):
caught him, he removed it. This gave Hangman a chance
to get revenge by waffling MJF with his own contract
case again. He blasted him right in the head with it,
and he followed that with a dead eye and then
the buckshot larier to finish him off with the one,
two three, and Hangman Adam Page is still the AEW
World Champion. So this was my favorite match of the

(01:24:54):
entire show despite all of the bullshit and and the
silliness and the nonsense that I just described to you.
Even despite that, this was still, in my opinion, the
best match, and it was my favorite match on the
entire show. And there was plenty of ridiculousness here in
this match. It was very overbooked there towards the end,
but the crowd was hot for it. They bought into
those late near fall. They were very very happy, elated

(01:25:18):
to see Hangman retain in the end. I just I
thought it was excellent despite all of it. I thought
it was excellent. And MJF still has the Casino Gauntlet contract.
It never should have been on the line here to
begin with. They obviously backtracked and decided, okay, this is
kind of stupid, so you know, we'll hit the undue button,
like you know, they're a Microsoft word. Let's hit the

(01:25:39):
undo button on what we've done here. And so he
still has the contract as a backup. That's his you know,
insurance policy. But every trick that he tried, every short cut,
he tried to take here in this match. It was ineffective.
It blew up in his face. I was waiting to
see if the hurt Syndicate might come out, you know,
to cost mj You know, I even said, you know,

(01:26:02):
coming into this, Mark Brisco might come out and stop
him from using the diamond ring. You could have had
the Hurt Syndicated do the same thing, even if it
was just the distraction, you know, not them necessarily beating
him up when the referee was down, which you could
have done that too. You know, Bryce Ramsberg could have
taken a bump. And here comes Bobby Lashley in Shell
and Benjamin who suspect that MJF is the one who
sent Ricochet and the Goa out there earlier to cost

(01:26:24):
them their titles. So fuck you, We're going to cost
you the world title. Nope, Nope, no hurt Syndicate, no
idea if they're going to pursue that angle of the
story or not. If it was just a random attack
in that tag team title match. Again, I just think
that was a very dumb thing to do. But this

(01:26:44):
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the official main event, but now we get to the
unofficial portion of the show. And at this point Brian
Danielson excused himself from commentary due to what he said,

(01:29:20):
personal issues that he has with certain members of this
match coming up, this unsanctioned match, so he left. Jim
Ross took his place for the five on five Lights
Out Steel Cage match with Will Osprey, Darby, Allen Kenny, Omega,
Coda Ibushi and The Ace. The Ace Hiroshi Tanahashi his

(01:29:45):
final ever match here in the UK, taking on John Moxley,
Claudio Castignoli, Gabe Kid and the Young Bucks. That a
cage they used. It wasn't very high, but it encompassed
most of the ringside area, all but the desks. That's
where it ended. So the announcers were saved. Poor Jim
Ross was not trapped inside this cage with these crazy

(01:30:06):
people for some reason. They already had tables that were
set up outside the ring. Justin Roberts announced that AW
would not be held responsible for what happens here in
this next match. I mean, look, it may be unsanctioned,
but they gave everybody a proper entrance. Everybody got their
usual entrance, everybody got their theme music. Looked pretty official

(01:30:27):
to me. Osprey was the last entrant for the Babyface team.
There was a video package that played for him with
highlights of his career there right before he came out.
It was narrated by his fiance Alex Windsor as soon
to be Missus Breuv and it was the superstar entrance

(01:30:47):
that you would have expected him to get here in London,
effectively for what is his farewell match before he goes
off to have surgery. The Young Bucks came out and
they had their music cut off within five seconds of
it playing. They cut the music off, they cut the
tron off. It all went black and then they put
the basic you know, Matt and Nick like Nickelodeon graphics

(01:31:09):
up and they started playing umbab By Hanson. They played
fucking umba for the Young Bucks nineteen ninety seven called
they want their music back. When I heard them coming
out to this song like this. This was fucking great.
I fucking I had a nice laugh at this. This

(01:31:30):
was fucking great. Although I will say you pay Tony, Tony,
you pay for umbab but you can't pay for Oasis
for Nigel. Come on, man, what's going on here? What's
going on here? So the Bucks were all pissed when
they heard the music the Death Riders and Gabe Kid

(01:31:52):
they entered through the crowd. Ex Caliber confirmed it all
in will return to Wembley Stadium next August. The Bucks
brought a bag into the ring which was left by
the production member that they had instructed to find the
most dangerous weapon that they could find, and they emptied
it out thinking it was going to be thumbtacks or
maybe broken glass or something, and it ended up being

(01:32:14):
gummy bears and the Bucks were annoyed. John Mosley was
not happy about this. Osprey got busted open at ringside
after being launched into the side of the cage. Claudio
pressed Darby over his head, military pressed him up, launched
him like a lawn dart clear into the side of
the cage. He took a hell of a bump there.

(01:32:36):
Darby also got busted open. Not on that spot he
got busted open. There was a ladder, if I remember,
that was up against the corner turn buckles, and I
think Darby took a bump on the ladder and he
fucked up his ear because his ear was all mangled
and bloody and blood was just pouring out of the
side of his head. And as blood is pouring out
of his head, the death Riders they duct tape him

(01:32:57):
to a chair, arms and all, so he can't move.
He is completely defenseless here. John Moxley then pulls up
or pulls out rather a fork and he begins to
jab the fork repeatedly into Darby's ear and through his
bloody ear lobe. He's putting the fork through the ear low,

(01:33:21):
but he's yanking on it and he's stabbing him with it,
and the blood it's just the camera zoomed on and
he's twisting it and he's stabbing him with it. This
was completely disgusting. I know that Moxley loves this kind
of shit, but you know, the aaw torture porn stuff
that we sometimes see them do. I'm not a fan

(01:33:43):
of it. So this might have done something for you.
It might have felt, had you feel in a certain way.
This didn't do shit for me. I thought this was
just completely disgusting and stupid. Then Claudie picked up the
chair and he body slammed Darby while he's still duct
taped to the chair, body slammed him in the chair.
The Young Bucks pulled the barb wire table out from

(01:34:04):
under the ring. The Bucks set it up inside. Moxley
wanted a death rider. Osprey, though, tackled him through the
barbed wire instead. Omega hit a terminator dive at one point,
and as if they intended it that way, and I
don't know if they did. The camera cut to Marina
Shaffir outside the ring at the exact moment that she

(01:34:25):
decided to yell fuck you, Kenny. The announcers didn't acknowledge it.
They cut away. It's like great timing on that. Later
on Osprey and Omega, they hit a hidden blade v
trigger combo. On Gabe Kid, they had him beat Kid's teammates.
That broke up the pin. Omega put Moxley down with
a one winged angel and had him beaten, but that

(01:34:45):
got broken up as well. Moxley, who was bleeding from
the forehead, so as not to feel left out here
because if other people are bleeding, John Moxley has to bleed.
So he set up a ladder next to the side
of the cage. He wanted Wheeler youd to a climb inside.
He climbed over the side of the cage and went
to the floor. Darby bit the head of Yuda and
punched him until he fell off the cage and onto

(01:35:07):
the Japanese announced desk. They had a Japanese announced desk
right next to the English announced desk. Darby exited the cage.
He went after Moxley who was trying to get away.
Darby got Moxley underneath one of the tables that was stacked.
They had tables that were I think it was two
layer four tables, two layer side by side, but they

(01:35:28):
had these tables stacked right outside the ring at the
foot of the aisleway. And he has Moxley just kind
of bent over leaning on one of the tables underneath
the top one and Darby's climbing the cage and again
not a very tall This is not the cage for example,
that will Osprey wrestled, you know, Kyle Fletcher in a

(01:35:49):
few months ago. This is not the cage they used
for blood and guts. So it's high enough where you
know you've got some decent hype, but it's not like
super super tall. But Darby climbs to the top of
the cage. Marina Shaffir pulls Moxley to safety, so he's
he's safe. Now he's away from the tables. Darby's on
top of the cage. Gabe Kid meets him up there,

(01:36:11):
hits him with a low blow. So now Gabe Kid
is on top of the cage and he applies a
sleeper hole and Darby reaches up behind him and he
rakes the eyes, gouging the eyes, and then both men
fall off the cage and they crash and burn through
all of the stacked tables down below. And it was
a hell of a bunch for Darby to take, but
it was really Gabe Kid who was on the bottom,

(01:36:33):
and he took the brunt of it, and Darby fell
right on top of him, so thankfully he was okay.
But like that looks scary because again, all of his weight,
not that Darby is a giant man, but all of
his weightes came crashing down right on top of Gabe Kids.
So Yeah, it was a big spot. Not the spot
of the night or anything, thank Michael Oku for that

(01:36:53):
on the pre show, but still a hell of a spot.
So inside the cage, Osprey hit a storm brake on
Claudio Omega and he Bushie hit stereo v triggers on
Nick Jackson. Omega hoisted up Matt and Osprey hit him
with a hidden blade from the top rope into a
one winged angel from Kenny Omega. Then they let Tanahashi,

(01:37:15):
They gave him the floor. They let tana Hashi ascend
to the top rope. He hit a high fly flow,
his last ever in the UK, and he got the pin.
Over thirty minutes into this madness, the Babyfaces win. As
the Babyfaces are celebrating inside the cage, ex Caliber says

(01:37:37):
that Darby was getting medical attention at ringside. Yeah, no shit.
Omega helped Darby to his feet and then and Darby
looked like he was out of it. I don't know
if he was concussed or not, but he was certainly
acting like it. So maybe he was just doing a
really good job of selling how dizzy he was, but
he looked like he was. He looked like he was
in a car wreck. So they all come into the cage,

(01:38:00):
not into the ring, but into the cage. Osprey's in
the ring. He's kneeling down. Then he's shaking hands and
hugging and getting his his kudos from each of his
teammates here Omega and Tanahashi, and they give him the
ring to himself. So the rest of the baby Faces
exit the cage. Osprey's in the ring all by himself.
They you know, no music. Everyone's giving him a standing ovation.

(01:38:23):
Then they play Osprey's music and this is his sendoff.
He made it through alive and in one piece. And
we don't know when the next time is that we're
going to see will Ospray in the ring. But he
got the wind. He's in his home country in front
of his home people, and everybody is cheering for him,
and they're chanting for him and they're applauding him, and
it's this great moment for him. He exits the ring.

(01:38:47):
He's not out of the cage yet, but he exits
the ring. He's on the floor. He's about to leave
the cage when he turns around, though, Claudio, because the
heels were still inside. They were on the floor. Claudio
blasts him with a European eppercut, and then he locks
the cage door while Moxley puts the boots to ospray.
And with the door locked, we are supposed to believe

(01:39:08):
here that the baby faces outside the cage are unable
to do anything about this. They're trying to get in
through the door. The door is locked. Oh my god,
what are we going to do? This man is being
brutalized here inside this cage with a bad neck, and
there's just nothing we can do. Now. Tanahashi, I can understand,

(01:39:29):
because he's got the jelly knees. So Tanahashi shouldn't be
climbing anything. He shouldn't be climbing into bed. But you
got Kenny Omega, you get Darby Allen, you got Cody Aboushi.
Nobody thinks to climb in over the cage. Now you
have Wheeler Yudah who's right by the door inside the cage,
and he's got a kendo stick so he can poke

(01:39:52):
them and prod them and use that as a weapon
to try to prevent them. But nobody is even attempting
to climb into the cage. And nobody is thinking maybe
I should go around to the other side. Maybe I'll
beat them to the punch and I could try to
climb in that way. It's like, not a few weeks ago,
we were going into SummerSlam, right and on the WWE
Vault channel they uploaded the cage match from SummerSlam in

(01:40:13):
ninety four between Brett Heart and Owen Heart. When the
match was over, it was pure pandemonium. It was absolute
chaos because you had all of the Hart family members
at ringside and Jim Knightheart was and he got, you know,
out of his seat and jumped the barricade and he
closedlined the bulldog over the barricade and his wife went
tumbling over with him and all the brothers. So they

(01:40:34):
get Brett back in the cage and they're beaten on Brett,
and so what are the brothers doing. The brothers are
trying to climb into the cage and this was a
taller cage and they're climbing and they're climbing, and you know,
Owen would he took his shoe off, and he's going
over there every now and then to bat them down.
But they're trying to climb over into the cage, and
eventually they make their way in I'm like, you know what,

(01:40:54):
this looks like. This was mass chaos, and it just
it looked like, Okay, this is what you would do
in this situation. You're desperate to help out your your
family member here who's being just destroyed. The door is
padlocked shut. Let me try to climb into the cage.
It would be the equivalent of the bulldog and all
the brothers just standing there going gee, I don't know
what to do? What should we do here? I mean, Davy,

(01:41:17):
is there is there a home depot maybe nearby? Maybe
you can go buy some bolt cutters. I don't know,
I don't know. I guess we can't do anything. It
would be ridiculous. So I'm watching this and it's, you know,
the dumb babyface syndrome, of course, and nobody is doing anything.
So finally the ops they run out, Samoa Joe, Powerhouse, Hobbs, Kattiori, Shavada,

(01:41:40):
they run out. I should mention to you, by the way,
that Marina Shaffir, who had been outside the cage on
the opposite side to where the babyfaces were acting like
there was nothing they could do. Marina Shaffir climbed over
into the cage again, nobody thought to even attempt this.
It's not like they were even trying. And they're like
the top and then they get like knocked down or

(01:42:01):
anything like. No. Now they're just like, shit, what do
we do? So the ops they run out, and actually,
before the ops even comes out, I'm skipping the best
part here, before the ops even comes out, because Ospreys
being stomped on and DDT after DDT Moxley gives him

(01:42:23):
a death rider again, all this shit right on his
injured neck in the middle of the ring here, and
they're doing this to try to get heat. Osprey in
the UK just got this big win and now you're
killing this dude. And it was designed to get heat
and it didn't work. This crowd didn't give a shit

(01:42:45):
or whatever heat it might have gotten. There was some
booze here and there, it was very limited, like they
did not get the heat that I'm sure they were
expecting to get. And part of the issue is, frankly,
everybody knew that Osprey had a bad neck and he
was leaving. They knew that Osprey was leaving. He announced
to us already on television that he was leaving, that

(01:43:06):
he was going to have to go under the knife.
We knew this coming in. This was not like a
big shock angle. Oh my god, what are they doing
to will Ospray here? And that might have been part
of the issue here, but whether it was apathy or
boredom or whatever it is, the crowd was not reacting,
I think in the way that you would expect them
to react in this situation. An ex caliber is on
commentary saying, oh my god, they wrapped the chair around

(01:43:27):
his neck. They just stomped on the chair. This could
be the end of his career. But that's what they
did to him in Texas. It wasn't the end of
his career then, although I guess they're crediting his injury
to the death Riders and what they did to him.
But he was back on TV two weeks later, so whatever,
they did the same thing to him again. Here he'd
laid their dead with the chair around his neck. Then

(01:43:47):
the ops comes out and if I have to listen
to one more sicko on Twitter after I posted this,
because I posted about how dumb the baby faces were
made to look at the end, and if I have
to listen to one more sicco tell me Wheeler dah
was there with a Kendo stick. There was nothing they

(01:44:09):
could do. I know this is like your gotcha moment
to AW, but clearly you weren't paying attention. And Wheeler
Dah was there with a Kendo stick, and so they
couldn't get into the ky They were trying, but they
couldn't get into the And I'm like, do these people
do these people honestly expect me to sit here? And

(01:44:31):
you're gonna tell me that Powerhouse Hobbs was unable to
get into the cage because Wheeler Dah stopped him from
stopped him from doing so, that Wheeler Dah stopped him
from doing so. Do you know what Powerhouse Hobbs could

(01:44:54):
do to Wheeler you to with that kendo? Do you
know how far up his ass he could that kendostick
if he wanted to. And you're actually gonna defend this
shit because they'll defend it to the death, of course.
I mean, I know this already, and this goes for
both sides, but it's worse with AW. They're really hardcore
defenders where they could do no wrong and right. Everything

(01:45:14):
they do is great, everything's great, Officer bar Brady, nothing
to see here, And I get it. You know they
will defend it until their death. They will defend it
until they're dying breath. I mean, it's like fucking Citizen
Kane right the last fucking words out of his mouth
rosebud right in the aw Siccos it would be you
don't to their dying breath. I understand that, but like, please,

(01:45:35):
if you are going to continue to make this point
and argue this to me, I will personally pick up
the phone and I will personally call the psych word.
I will make the call. Okay, you just let me know,
let me know where to send them. There is no
defense of this. It's stupid. It was very very dumb.
It was not well thought out or at least an execution.

(01:45:56):
Maybe it didn't come off the way that it was
supposed to. It was dumb. It's okay to admit that
it was dumb. It's okay. I promise you they will
not kick you out. They will not kick you out
of the family, they will not kick you out of
the cult. Okay, you'll be Okay, you'll be fine. But
now the opposer at ringside, finally someone says we should

(01:46:19):
get the cage raised, and they did lift the cage.
The death Riders were able to make their escape. They
escaped through the crowd, trainers and babyfaces. They all made
their way into the ring to check on Osprey, who
was laying their dead. And that was the end of
this four and a half hour odyssey here that was

(01:46:39):
forbidden Door London. Now I understand that they killed him
off because he was going away anyway, But again I
just thought, you know, the death Rider's stuff, killing him
at the end, it really wasn't necessary. I know why
they did it. I know what they were going for.
They wanted to put heat on the death Riders. But
I feel like if you were if you were to

(01:47:02):
have the heels just win, just have the Heels win,
and then you can still give Osprey that moment at
the end where he's like half dead, but he gets
up and everybody gives him a nice ovation, but he's
all like, man, I let you guys down, and it's
all beat up and injured, and then he but he
gets that exit, you know, with dignity, that's the last
we see of him for a while. But have the

(01:47:24):
Heels go over that would have been effective too, but
still give Osprey that moment at the end. Instead, they
repeated the same angle they already did with him in Texas,
which ended up not really meaning a whole hell of
a lot. But they repeated the same angle and they
you know, ended up making everybody look like an idiot.
But they wanted to go for the heat here at
the end the match. Here, here's the thing about this

(01:47:48):
about this match. When they announced this as as a
lights out, unsanctioned match, just like anarchy in the arena,
blooding guts and those types of matches, you you know
what to expect coming in. You can never really be
shocked by what they give you here when they do
the gore and the blood and the violence, the ultra
violence and the disgusting shit that they do. It's part

(01:48:10):
and parcel of what Tony Kahan loves, you know, and
just what they do and what Moxley loves, and you
know what to expect. So I knew that coming in here,
the blood and the gore and the plunder. I wasn't
a huge fan of this match. This match was. It
really wasn't for me. I'm sure for some people they'll
think is the best thing in the world. For me,
Hangman MJF had the best match in the entire show.

(01:48:33):
I enjoyed that more because to me, we had anarchy.
We had an anarchy in the arena a few months ago,
double or nothing. This was anarchy in the arena, but
in a cage. There's a sameness to this and anarchy
in the arena. I had a lot of fun with
this year, especially the whole let the bodies hit the
floor part with you drowning pool. That was a really
fun match. But that's what this was. But it was

(01:48:54):
contained within it for the most part. It was contained
within a cage, and we just had that a few
months ago. I mean, at least they were smart enough
to not do blood and guts. That would have been
complete overkill. Like if they had gone from anarchy the
arena to blood and guts like a month and a
half later, they may still do it before the year
is over, but they didn't do blood and guts. But

(01:49:15):
I just feel like I've seen this before. This time.
They tossed in a few names, you know who we
don't normally don't see. Tana Hashi and Gabe Kid, Kenny
Omega and Cody Abushie we haven't seen in a month,
so they threw them in there. I did think it
was a nice gesture, you know, giving tana Hashi the
pin at the end, you know, if the baby Faces
were gonna win. So I like that, I mean, I

(01:49:36):
thought that was that was nice. But the story here
is Darby and John Moxley. That's what the match was
supposed to be, really, but they probably want to hold
off on it until September all out, so they gave
us this in the meantime. The story coming in here though,
was more about Will Ospray and his injury. That's really

(01:49:57):
what the story was. Is Ospray going to be able
to make it the match in one piece because he
was medically cleared and he's been doing a lot of
interviews this week talking about how my doctors told me
that you know, it shouldn't get any worse, and they're
comfortable with me, and I'm comfortable going in there and
protecting myself enough. But you know, he was also talking like,
if this is the last time I get to be

(01:50:18):
the real Will Osprey, then I'm going to go out
there and give it my all. And he didn't do
anything in the match that was too crazy. They left
that to Darby, who is always going to do crazy
shit no matter what. Osprey leaving is going to leave
a hole in the roster. There's nothing that could be done.
I don't know if he's having a fusion. I don't
know if he's having like a cleaning and they're just

(01:50:39):
going to fix up a few things and he'll be
back in five months. If it's a fusion, he's gone
for a year. There's a big difference there. We're talking about,
you know, ospray out for four or five months or
ospray out for ten to twelve. Big difference. And we
don't know. He hasn't commented on exactly what the surgery
and what the procedure is going to be. It's gonna

(01:51:03):
be tough, especially if Swerve has to be out for
a while. People are gonna have opportunities to step up
and take their place, because those are two big baby
faces to lose, even if it's only for a few months.
The matches were solid on this show, solid to very
good in some cases. I thought the AW World title
match for the most part was excellent. Again, we get

(01:51:24):
solid to very good matches. I mean they shit them
out every week on AW television. When the show was over,
I was like, you know what, this was a good show.
This was not a great show. This was not one
of my favorite shows, but it was good. It was good,
you know, I didn't feel like I was cheated out
of my money. They always give you an overload of matches.
They should, you know. I mean, I've said my piece

(01:51:45):
on that. But they want to try to get everybody
on the show. That's fine. They stuck most people on
the pre show at the very last minute. Four matches.
Every match was like an all star six person, eight
person tag match. Whatever. There's so many matches, there's so
many championships, it could be dizzying sometimes. But I felt
like there was enough on this show that I did like,

(01:52:06):
you know, that I got my money's worth. In terms
of en ring, it was a good show. In terms
of the stories and the angles, nothing really to get
excited about here. Honestly, happy to see wardlow Back, happy
to see Jamie Hayterback should obviously be working with Tekla.
But in terms of the angles and the stories this
was it was pretty weak. And again, forbidden Door is

(01:52:29):
a novelty that has worn out. It's welcome with me.
I know some people would disagree. A lot of people
agree that it was a cool concept three years ago
and even two years ago. But at this point, the
Forbidden Door it's very played out. We get the Forbidden
Door every single week, so it doesn't mean what it
used to mean. And this year was the one year

(01:52:50):
more than any other that they've been doing this show
where it was an AW show more than anything. It
didn't feel like a Forbidden Door show. Most of the
matches were AW talents and they drop people in here,
Horomu here, Tanahashi there, But for the most part it
was just an AW show, you know, masquerading as a
Forbidden Door show. So is Tony Kan going to continue
the concept? Yes, they did nineteen thousand people here at

(01:53:13):
the two. I don't know what the gate was. It's
probably in the top five that they've ever done. Is
a very successful show. Next year they should be back
to the normal schedule with this show in June and
all in in August, so they may have greater access
to talent from New Japan at that point. Who even
knows what the New Japan roster is going to look

(01:53:33):
like at that point. New Japan is going through a
period of great upheaval right now. They're trying to make
new stars. They've lost a lot of stars. I think
that's part of the problem. New Japan is a product
is very cold. When they did The Forbidden Door three
years ago, New Japan was I don't want to say
it was super hot because it really hasn't been super
hot since Covid. Covid really did a number on this
fucking company, but they were hotter than they were now.

(01:53:56):
They had bigger names than they do now. Every year
that goes by, that gets that much weaker. It makes
this show feel weaker. That's absolutely part of it. New
Japan is ice cold right now. Takeshta just won the
g One. Takesh is an aw guy and he wasn't
even on the show in a match. I mean, he
came out briefly, but he wasn't even in a match

(01:54:16):
on the show, and so that's part of the problem too.
Take a look at the Twitter poll how would you
grade Forbidden Door twenty twenty five with almost eighteen hundred
votes in so far. Look at the split here, ABC
and D Twenty five percent roughly have given this show

(01:54:39):
an A grade, twenty seven percent have given this show
a B grade. Twenty three point six percent have given
this show a C grade. And twenty four point six
percent have given this show a D grade. It's almost
that even split right down the line, where do I

(01:55:01):
fall on this? I'm in the B category. I think
solid B. That's probably what I would go for this show.
Tony signed everyone away from Japan, well, I mean he did,

(01:55:22):
but they were going to leave anyway. It's not just
that Tony like snuck in at night and just stole everybody,
stuffed them in a bag and ran off like they
were leaving New Japan. They wanted to make more money.
And if Tony didn't take them, I guarantee you w
W would have WW would have taken Okada, they would
have taken j White, they would have taken will Osprey.

(01:55:47):
But yes, Tony's signing away so many names from them.
He has them now they don't, and they just haven't
built up enough new stars to make up that deficit,
you know. I mean, that's what happens when you just
you don't act quick enough in terms of building up
all of this new talent, like they should already have
at this point two or three of those guys, you know,
the Yoda Sujis and showta uminos, like they should already

(01:56:10):
be in a position where they are a top talent.
So they have like five guys that are like their
nucleus that you could build around, and none of them
have been elevated to that spot yet. I don't know
what they're waiting for. They lost Nito. I mean, you

(01:56:31):
think that David Finley's going to be there forever? All right,
Le's go back to the super chats that first came
in tonight. Start with the Terrible Dried Chicken getting us started.

(01:56:53):
By the way, the exterminator is still not here and
it is almost eleven o'clock at night. Is he coming
at all? Probably not. I'm going to subdue my anger
and get through these super chats because I'm very angry

(01:57:15):
right now. Dry Chicken says, did you see the viral
clip of what rampages son? Did it? Yes? I did,
of course I did, and it was disgusting and he
should be locked away for many years to come. It
was disgusting and he has no business being out on
the streets after what we saw in that video. The update,

(01:57:40):
by the way, on the man that he almost beat
to death, Psycho Stu, last update I saw right before
I went live tonight. He is alert and was communicating,
you know, talking to people earlier. But he almost choked
to death on his own blood and his teeth. He

(01:58:00):
had I would say all of his teeth knocked out,
but he got a lot of teeth knocked out, and
he almost choked to death on his blood and his teeth.
But he's alive. But that's the only update we have
so far. Absolutely disgusting death. Sithe says while watching the

(01:58:21):
three way aw tag team title match, it made me
think if only Vince made the main event of Survivor
Series ninety seven a triple threat with Brett, Sean and
the Undertaker, and the whole Montreal screwjob could have been avoided. Well,
I've said that on the podcast for years. Undertaker was
in the building that night. He was there. He had
no match, but he was there. That would have been

(01:58:43):
the simple solution because he had been working with both
of those guys. He had worked with Brett at SummerSlam
and at that UK pay per view, and then he
went right from a program with Brett to a program
with Sean. He was right in the thick of it.
It would have actually made storyline sense for him to
be part of that match. And I don't believe the
idea was ever even broached. Like in all the stories

(01:59:07):
that have been retold about Montreal and the ideas that
people were trying to come up with Vincent Cornett and
all these people, nobody thought. Nobody thought like, maybe we
just put the Undertaker in the match. Nobody thought of that.
But Seawn beat Undertaker, so Brett doesn't have to take
the losing fun Maybe Brett would have said no, But
apparently the idea was never even pitched. I never really

(01:59:31):
understood that. How Veally says, what's up, solo Monster shout
out from Brisbane, Australia. Let's just say that Hulk Hogan's
return to WWE in nineteen ninety eight, what is the
possibility of getting Austin versus Hogan at WrestleMania fifteen instead
of Rock versus Austin if Hogan had come back to

(01:59:53):
the company, I think the likelihood is very high. And
I think that, I mean that would have been terrible
for the Rock in Austin. Hogan coming into the company
in ninety eight when they were building their new stars
up would have been the worst possible thing, the worst
possible thing. It's a good thing. It didn't happen in hindsight,
and he says today would have been his mom's sixty

(02:00:15):
third birthday. Well, I wish your mother a very heavenly birthday, Pavely.
I'm sure she was a lovely lady. Fox says, excited
for the upcoming video. I assume he meant stream, so
I hope it lived up to your expectations. Dried Chicken,

(02:00:36):
says a w in twenty twenty five. This dried Chicken
here is enjoying the women's division so much lower card,
mid card or top spot. The personalities are great. Gabriel
Gabriel Boss says everyone can make fun of nine Belts Monet,
but you can't take away from the workload that she

(02:00:56):
is putting in. She wrestled four times in five days
this week. Yeah, you know she did. And if I'm
Tony Kahan man, like she's in a feature match on
your pay per view, and you're allowing her to wrestle
four times in five days, like that's I mean, that's

(02:01:17):
taken a risk there. I don't even know if I
would allow that. I mean, one match is one thing,
two matches is one thing, but fucking four matches, I mean,
you're really tempting fate, especially with all the injuries they've had.
Brian Cage had a knee replacement. He's been out because
he got hurt, and that's not the reason why he
had knee replacement. I mean, I think he tore his
acl but he just decided, you know what, I'm gonna

(02:01:41):
get my knee taken care of. But he got hurt
at an indie show back in March. We haven't seen
him since. Uh the Moldy Cheeseburger. Can Tony Khan replace
ex Caliber with Walker Stewart on commentary going forward? Walker
Stewart is quite good. He is very good. Fabian Garcia,

(02:02:09):
the show was fun and I can say overall I
was entertained. What more can I ask for? Some booking
I don't agree with, but when do we ever? That
was from Fabian mister E nineteen seventy six. Here's to
the tip jar. Thanks for everything you do, Sola, Monsters
stay pressing forward. Thank you, Mystery I try the real

(02:02:33):
CS says Hey, Solo, I have a question for you.
Since you are a commentator for hog, do you prefer
to not know the results of the matches? To me,
your reactions come off as genuine, so I was wondering
I would prefer not to. I would prefer not to.
Sometimes I don't. Sometimes I do. If it comes off

(02:02:56):
like I like, I don't, it's possible I don't. And
it's also possible I'm doing a very good job of
fooling you into believing that I don't. If it were
up to me, I wouldn't. But there are many times
where I need to know what's going on, especially if
I'm going to be involved in something on the show,
which does happen a lot. Joseph Stewart says, I want

(02:03:17):
to take time out today and remember Wyndham Rotunda aka
Bray Wyatt. Absolutely I mentioned that before two years he
has been gone. Also, do you think Bo Dallas is

(02:03:38):
Uncle Howdy could work in AAW and would the AW
fans accept Bo Dallas as Uncle Howdy? No, Uncle Howdy
would not work in AAW. Uncle Howdy barely works in WWA,
would not work in AW. I'm hearing good reviews. Also
of Raven's autobiography, is autobiography or is that documentary? I

(02:04:00):
thought it was a movie that was coming out. I
think it's a movie, not a book. Buy or sell
Prince Prince Batman eighty nine soundtrack or Batman Forever soundtrack
Prince Prince Batman eighty nine. Do you remember the Batman
or Robin soundtrack? I don't. Do you think that we

(02:04:22):
will get Dominic Mysterio against John Cena at Survivor Series?
I don't After rewatching and seeing teases on SmackDown, could
the Wyatt six have every title on Smackdowd in the future.
I fucking hope not. No, absolutely not. Power Spying Games

(02:04:52):
Our Spying Games says he was there. He was at
Forbidden Door tonight. If I can find it here, there is.
I enjoyed Hangman versus MJF the most, you and me
both man. That was my favorite match of the night,
best match on the Showjaveli says if Yoko Zuna left WWE,

(02:05:18):
would he have left WWE? Would he have another run
of the WWE? Would he have another run of the
WWE Championship or become Intercontinental or European Ship. I'm not
sure I understand the question. I think he means if
he did not leave WWE, he didn't leave WWE. I
mean they got rid of him, his contract expired, He

(02:05:42):
wasn't cleared by certain athletic commissions to wrestle. He was
so morbidly obese it was it was a danger to
him and potentially others to allow him into the ring.
So that's why his career came to an end. Would
he have had another run with the WWF title. I
don't think so. I don't think so. With sammy' z

(02:06:06):
ay and on SmackDown most likely to have wargames MFT
versus the og Bloodline. Thank you for everything. I really
hope that's I mean, I really hope that's not what
we get. That would be so fucking lame. How many
times are we going to see the fucking bloodline in wargames?
My god, my god? Can we not? Please? Can we

(02:06:28):
just not Death's Site? On SmackDown when Nick all this
said to Sena, I just got word from Brock Lesnar
and I completely forgot that match is still happening. And
I would rather they coaxed Steve Austin out of retirement
to face Sena instead of Brock. Yeah, I'd rather they
not do either one of those matches. Actually, okay, I'm back.

(02:06:52):
Sorry for the delay. We are back. We are back.
The exterminator is here. I just had him walk me
through what he's going to do. He's got to get
his suit on. Apparently it's that bad. He's got to
get his be suit on or whatever it is. And
he explained the whole process, and so we're trying to
get this fixed. So we'll try to let's try to
wrap this up so I can go see what he's

(02:07:13):
doing here before he finishes. But it looks like it's
gonna take a while. But it's what what a mess? Though? Man? Basically,
we got to get to the queen. We got to
get to the queen. Once we get to the queen,
then we're in business and then we can kill the rest.
What a mess? Yeah, you know, it's a you know,

(02:07:36):
it's a serious situation. When the exterminator is here at
eleven o'clock on a Sunday night, he's getting his b suit,
So it's it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. All right,
let me pick up where we left off here. Yes,

(02:07:56):
we now return to our regularly scheduled program. Here Charlotte, Yeah, Charlotte,
Charlotte is in my wall downstairs. We are going to
kill the queen. Jeremy Rose, Aw, you gotta have the
worst book reps in wrestling. He says, food Hive Sola

(02:08:20):
Monster is going to rip up another bill live on
stream again, just like he did on that one stream
during the pandemic classic moment. I remember that that was
when I said no mas to cable and I cut
the cord and I haven't gone back since it was
five years ago. Defined real spot of the night for

(02:08:53):
me was all the baby Faces telling Tanahashi to get
off the ladder. Jeremy Rose says, MJF Hangman ending was
absolute BS repcounts three, then wakes up minute or two
later to see MJF about to remove the foot. It
was very dumb. As I said, it was very very dumb.

(02:09:20):
Jeremy says. Later his Spidey senses caught MJF about to
use the ring, but then didn't notice or hear contract used.
And yeah, when he hit him with that contract case, dude,
it made such a loud sound. But apparently Bryce Remsburg
his hearing is not that great. Apparently not Bobby's world.

(02:09:46):
Thank you for the gifted membership, brother, I appreciate very
very much. Jeremy says, buy or sell. Tony Kahn needs
to just run the business and stop being booker. It
doesn't matter, dude, it doesn't matter. This is his company,
this is his baby. He's the booker. He's not handing
that off to somebody else. So it's a pointless question.

(02:10:12):
Shadow see that Bozilla can give me a hip attack
to the face all day, every day. You know. I
will say though, like, there are a lot of people
who are going to take notice of Bozilla now who
didn't even know who the woman was before. And I
met what I said when I said that if your stardom,
make sure she's locked into a contract, then this is
not a Stephanie Vikaer situation. Because I think the WWE

(02:10:36):
and AW were definitely paying attention tonight, that is for sure. Larcity,
am I the only one who thinks Kenny Omega did
the belt collector gimmick better than Mercedes Mundane. How would
you rank the following names on their run in two
thousand and two, the Rock brock Lesnar, Shawn Michaels, and

(02:10:56):
Kurt Angle. I mean, they all have a hell of
a year in two thousand and two, But I mean,
how can I go with anybody but brock Lesnar. I
mean that was the year that made him he debuted,
He won King of the Ring. He beat Hulk Hogan
with a bear hug, He beat the Rock, He won
the WWE Championship. He beat the Undertaker in Helena Cell.

(02:11:19):
The only rookie year I could think of that rivals
that in his or is better than that is Kurt Angle,
Kurt and Brock, two of those guys right there. But
those are your two best rookie years right there, easily,

(02:11:40):
So I would go Brock first. Uh, all right, I'm
not I'm not using this anymore. Fuck this, I'm gonna
look at the list here. This is this list is
getting in my fucking nerves. Sorry, I'm gonna look at
it over here. Oh my god, just what I needed.

(02:12:01):
Mm hm, that's what all. That's what all. The yellow
Jackets are going to be singing as they're as they're
fleeing and flying out of the wall outside Gouda be
shouting bre mode as they fly away. So Lar City,
I would go Brock God two thousand and two, huh hmm, Brock,

(02:12:28):
Kurt Rock, and then Shawn Michaels, just because Seawn didn't
return to the ring until August, and then he didn't
wrestle again until the elimination Chamber. I mean, that's not
really a complete year, so I can't rank him above
those other names gmb Oba and Javon was incredible. It

(02:12:50):
was the best one on one match today, Ozen Gloria
is wasn't the hurt Syndicate the catalyst for Ricochet spiraling
to begin with? After they humiliated him? That was before

(02:13:10):
the swerve TP spot long term? Yeah, sure, I'm sure
that's the reason. I'm sure that's the reason that they
suddenly ran out there. You could you could argue that,
I mean that that's going back aways. He was playing
the long game. Is that what he was doing? They

(02:13:32):
were playing the long game? Basce bears can't wait for
Wardlow to do a tell all shoot death sythe What
did the young doctor say when his mother asked him
what he wanted for his birthday? Patience? Patience p A
T I E. N ce get it. Also, do you

(02:13:56):
think Rampage Jackson's son should be charged with first degree
I think he should be locked away behind bars for
at least twenty years. Yes, what you saw in that
video was attempted murder, played and simple. He should be
locked away. He should be off the streets and locked away.

(02:14:16):
There's no excuse for that. I don't give a shit.
Hoho jinned him up. He was looking at the chat,
the chat with you, except the rage bait from the chat.
Everyone's making excuses. I don't give a shit. He should
be locked away. IP that's the name. By the way,

(02:14:37):
I'm not describing what I'm doing right now. Saw Weapons
on Friday. Thanks for recommending you. Oh, you're very welcome.
I hope you enjoyed it. I had a lot of
fun watching Weapons. I still think Sinners is the best
movie I've seen this year, but Weapons was very fun.

(02:14:58):
Ozen glorious. Grateful for the community and the work you
put in. Solom Monster. Also thank you for not taking
the bait and becoming a performative, hyperbolic AW is dying
grifter like everyone else in the space, I've never once
said that AW is dying. I mean, they have six

(02:15:19):
hundred million. There's six hundred million reasons why they are
not dying, despite what other people may say, which I
think is a ridiculous thing to say. Nineteen thousand people
in the O two in London, I think they probably
did two and a half million, three million dollars at
the gate doesn't seem like a dying company to me.

(02:15:40):
You're very welcome, bas Bears. Is when are we getting
the call in segment on the show? Eh, there's no
consistency to it. It's just when I feel like doing it,
or I may set a supercheck goal for it. Nothing
is scheduled, but we'll do more calls. It's just a

(02:16:00):
matter of fitting them in, especially when I know there's
gonna be like a long stream. I wouldn't do it
on a stream like that. If it was maybe a
night where I felt like show is basic, show whatever,
maybe we'll see Javili says. I meant, if Yoko Zuna
did not leave WWE and lost weight, how long before
Zillah joins WWE? Uh? Zilla, He's still a little ways away.

(02:16:25):
But I have every reason to believe that Zilla will
end up in WWI. It's not like an imminent thing, though.
Doubles in the chat, says b the booker, and he
puts a fucking b. I mean, look, there are people
who think yellowjackets or bees. They're not. They're wasps, but
they look like bees. Hey, at least it could be worse, right,

(02:16:46):
I could have those murder hornets. That was a thing
here in New York a couple of years ago. Thoughts
on WWE doing a Battle Royal with the winner against
Stephanie Vakaierre for the women championship. No, you do Eosky,
They may do that, but Eosky against Stephanie a clash
in Paris. That's it. Or maybe you do eo rock

(02:17:10):
sand in Stephanie at clash in Paris. But that's it.
That's all you need to do. Bass Beer, is, what
are you exterminating in queen rats? You know what? It
kind of feels that way, doesn't it. Fucking rat queen
is buried deep within the wall somewhere. I don't know.
But whatever it is, it is, it's being taken care

(02:17:32):
of as we speak. All a boy, there are trees
sprouting everywhere tonight, fu that there are trees sprouting everywhere.
Jericho is back in the news and the trees are

(02:17:54):
sprouting again death side. You know what, we Brits always say,
God save the Queen. You do you do say that?
You say God saved the Queen. I say God's slay
the queen, Bass Bearris shout out to the exterminator, Yes,
shout out to him. I just had a very nice

(02:18:15):
conversation with him, Alex. Can you see a scenario where
Sina decides to extend his retirement, No where he decides
to extend his retirement until next year's WrestleMania only because
he wouldn't want his final Mania match to be infamously
remembered as one of the worst Maniam matches of all time.

(02:18:35):
I don't think he cares. I don't think that matters
to him what other people are going to say about
his WrestleMania match. I don't think he's living on social
media worry that people are saying that it was a
shitty main event at WrestleMania, which it was. He is
not extending his retirement. He is committed through the end

(02:18:55):
of the year. Saturday Night's main event December thirteenth is
going to be his final match, and that's it. He's
done and you will never see him in the georts
and hat and T shirt again, just like Undertaker has said, like,
you're not gonna see him dressed as the Undertaker, right
he comes out. Now, he's the American badass. He's Mark Callaway.

(02:19:18):
He says, unless I get back in the ring, which
I'm not doing, I'm not gonna. I'm not wearing the
Undertaker stuff again. That's it, I believe seeing it. When
he says that Basce Bears with the twelve dollars learning tree,
this has been an unbelievable review. Boy, you guys are

(02:19:40):
really having some fun at my expense, aren't you. Again
it's it's not a bee though, like the joke doesn't work.
Bass Bears says, what would get a bigger pop if
Jericho returned? What would get a bigger pop if Jericho
returned his the walls down theme or him simply saying

(02:20:02):
hi guys before he appears. Not that why two j
versus Brock would be great? They have history already. Yeah,
great is not a word I would use for that.
I don't think that would be as great as you
believe it would be. I have no interest in seeing that.
I have no interest in seeing that. Jane Love, it

(02:20:23):
looked like Youda was stabbing the face's fingers as they
tried to climb. You can see Youda doing that to Hobbs,
which swayed the faces not to go well, but gee golly,
I mean, if Wheeler Da is jabbing them in the fingers,
then I guess will ospray. He's just gonna have to
have his neck broken. There's just nothing we can do.
I mean, do people not realize how ridiculous this sounds? Like? Yes,

(02:20:46):
I saw him doing that with some people, but not
first of all, not all of them. Number one, number two, Uh,
that is not reason enough to leave your comrade to
die in the ring because Wheeler Dah has a stick
in his hand. Wheeler Dah, Now if he had a
blowtorch or something, I'd be like, okay, you know what, well,
you're on your own. You're on your own. That I

(02:21:10):
can understand, Chainsaw. You know, if Wheeler Uda was standing
there outside the ring, you know, yeah, if I'm hobbs,
I'm like, all right, you know what, it's all good man,
it's all good. I'm gonna back away that I could understand.
Base Bears says I botch that. I meant thanks, guys,

(02:21:31):
look at that. You botched your own super chat. It's terrible. Yeah.
My my new least favorite tag team, the Killer Wait watch,
We'll land on the Killer Bees and be the book
Can you imagine if we land on the fucking Killer
Bees and be the Booker Tonight, Luis with a twelve.

(02:21:51):
I wasn't able to watch All In and I still
can't believe Wwe gave us two different versions of Logan
Paul knocking out John Cena. Now we know who is
going to win it Clash in Paris. Fuck Logan, Paul,
Thank you Luis Shadow See are you going to watch
The Long Walk and Alien Aliens Earth? What is? First

(02:22:15):
of all? What is the the Long Walk? And number two?
I would like to watch Alien Earth. I do feel
like I should go back and just rewatch the first movie,
though it's been a while since i've seen it. Depth side. Also,
I don't disagree. I think they should throw the book
at Raha. Is it Raja or Raja? I think Rajah?
At least Travis Scott didn't hurt Cody like that. Great.

(02:22:38):
Now this son of a bitch has me defending Travis Scott.
I mean yeah, I mean the two situations are not
even remotely similar. Like this guy just this guy just
snapped like I don't give a shit who said what
to him beforehand, Like he's a grown adult, he's not

(02:23:01):
a child. When he slammed this man to the mat,
and the way that his head smacked the mat, like
he was already out of it, and then he started
throwing punches at this guy, full fucking force, and he
threw so many of them, like there's no and it's
all on video, and there's no argument to be made that.

(02:23:21):
Oh well, I didn't know. I mean, they told me
I could give him a receipt, So I just decided
to punch him seventeen times in the fucking face as
hard as I possibly could, Like, no, throw the book
at him and lock him up, that's it, and throw
away the key. It was disgusting and there's no there's
absolutely no excuse for it. Doctor Scorpio, It's a wasp.

(02:23:44):
I can't believe that. I can't believe that, Leopoldo. I'm
so tempted to take Solo's gaming share right now. Well,
too bad, already back in the chair. I wasn't out
of the chair for that long. Just had to go

(02:24:05):
see what was going on. Speedy Sina says that now.
Sina says that now, but even the Brothers of Destruction,
Triple H and HBK could not resist the greatest force
in wrestling history, Saudi Money. Well. One thing that John
Cena does not need to worry about is that sweet
Saudi money. He's got plenty of it from his career

(02:24:27):
in Hollywood, so I think he'll be okay. And with that,
we got one round. We didn't quite hit the secondary goal,
but we did hit the We did hit the main goal,
so we will be doing some be the booker here
more the super chat. You get your fingers jabbed, you're

(02:24:48):
gonna lose grip again. I could be mistaken here. Did
you see Kenny Omega try to climb the cage? Did
you see Kodyabushi try to climb the cage? Did you
see rb Allen try to climb the cage? Maybe one
of them. I don't remember seeing any of them even
attempt to climb the cage, but I get it. You

(02:25:09):
know people are going to make excuses. There's no excuses
for this. Like you can try. It's admirable, like you
could try, but it was stupid. Like again, just it's
okay to admit it was very very stupid. Like visually,
it didn't work. It made the baby faces look very
weak and ineffective. Shadow See the Long Walk is a

(02:25:31):
horror movie based off of a an sk book. Oh
Stephen King, Okay, first, I'm hearing of this so I
will have to look into what the movie is about.
It's first the hearing of it. Just be the booker.
Ladies are gentlemen. It is now time to be the booker.

(02:26:02):
You know, Bash may have had the comments of the
night in the chat just now, I think Bash has
the comments of the night. Darby could climb a mountain,
but not a cage. Bash, you win the prize for
the night. Darby could climb a mountain, but not a cage. Said,

(02:26:27):
all right, tag team be the I swear if we land,
if we land on these guys, I swear. All right.
We got the Luca Bros. We got Pinta, we got
Ray Phoenix. It's a good start. That's a good start,

(02:26:49):
and they are going to be taking on. Look at
this lax. We got Santana and door teas. Yes, no
killer bees for you or killer wasps because they're not

(02:27:10):
bees but they look like them. Women's be the booker.
We have Rosa No, no, no, that point. Goodbye Rosa,
goodbye Rosa Mendez out. Yes, all right our main event here,
Men's be the booker. We got a main event to book, Yes,

(02:27:31):
indeed we do. We have got Men's be the booker.
Let's do it. Let's do it. We got the w
w E champion. Look at this, we got the American
Nightmare Cody Rhodes properly in the main event. Here of
be the booker. Cody rhads. Oh again, zombie Eddie Kingston.

(02:28:03):
Now that's a badass. Look right there, This right here
is a man that has seen shit. He has seen
some shit. Let me tell you we should be getting
Eddie Kingston back very soon. He should be back, honestly
any month now. Cody Rhodes and Eddie Kingston in the

(02:28:24):
main event. There's a main event for I imagine those promos, man,
Eddie cutting promos on corporate Cody, that'd be great. Doctor
Scorpio says, hide those belts from Mercedes. Oh shit, that's right, yeah,
I gotta I gotta cover these up here, man, Man,

(02:28:44):
I gotta, I gotta I don't know, man, I gotta
take them off the wall. She may be coming after
my belts. She's gonna have to fight me for him.
It's gonna take more than six meteors to beat me
for those belts. It's gonna have to come up with
another move. Devin from NJ who would solo rather have

(02:29:06):
be seen his final opponent the Rock or Austin theory.
None of the above, None of the above. Dried Chicken
says Don Kallas is giving Paul Hayman a run for
his money when it comes to recruiting people to his faction. Oh,
I would say Paul Hayman has some catching up to do.
He's got some catching up to do. Oz and Glorio

(02:29:26):
is how long before WWE signs Rajah Jackson. I'll tell
you what there is. I saw this on PW Insider.
The promotion where this has happened is Knox Pro That
is Rakishi's promotion, and they are a WWEID designated affiliate.
They have been WWEID designated since October and there is
definitely talk going on about potentially that changing very soon.

(02:29:52):
They may have potentially lost their ID designation because of this.
We'll see, maybe they should power spying games. Dumb babyface
syndrome was strong tonight. Oh yes it was. It rears
its ugly head every now and then. And Dryed Chicken

(02:30:14):
says Lloyd Christmas has a question for you, solo, what
are the chances of aw and WWE doing a joint show? Well,
I have a sound effect for that. That is where
you can send that question, because the chances of that
are zero. If I could give you a number less

(02:30:36):
than zero, I would, but zero is as low as
you can go. Rakkeishi's I would imagine Rakishi's promotion is done. Now,
I wouldn't say it's done. I mean, they've been around
sixteen years. But as far as the WWEID affiliate, I
wouldn't want to be associated with a company that allows
something like that to happen. I can tell you that

(02:31:00):
everyone just standing around with his guy is fucking beaten
to death, almost fucking beaten half to death in the
middle of the ring. Anyway, Thank you guys. This has
been a very uh interesting stream given everything that's going
on here. I have the exterminator in his b suit
downstairs somewhere working on things. This fucking has matt suit

(02:31:22):
working on things spraying shit. I'm like, should I be
worried about this stuff that's being sprayed? No? No, no,
it's fine, Like, okay, all right, just checking. Well, hopefully
I'll be here for the raw post show tomorrow night.
If not, then I may have succumbed to whatever is
being sprayed here. But I have to give you guys

(02:31:42):
an update on my yellowjacket situation. Hopefully they'll begin dying
off tomorrow, but I'll be here hopefully for the raw.
Oh yes, so okay, the schedule is a little bit
different tomorrow, so Raw Raw is airing on Netflix at
three o'clock Eastern for every so it's an early Raw.
Don't forget early Raw in Birmingham, England. Tomorrow. I will

(02:32:05):
be live on the channel barring any exterminator issues eight
o'clock Eastern like I was supposed to be tonight, so
eight pm Eastern Tomorrow, I will go live for the review.
But Raw begins at three, so I guess three to
five thirty will be Raw tomorrow, so just be aware
of that. Go back and check out episode nine twenty

(02:32:26):
six as well of the sound off. If you missed it.
A lot of good shit on the podcast two hours worth,
go check it out. Terrible Dried Chicken says one more,
not the bees, You're the bee's knees, Terrible Dried Chicken,
thank you for all the super chats and everybody else too.
Thank you for all the support tonight. It's been a
very stressful night, but you made it a little easier.

(02:32:48):
For me to navigate, and I will see you tomorrow
for the Raw post show. Be well, be well, hahah
be well. Stay safe, I'll see you tomorrow. Take care, guys,

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