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WWE was in Paris for the final ple here in
the month of August, the final ple on Peacock, thirty
thousand fans in the La Defense Arena, the all time
gate record, they said. They announced this during the show
and everybody cheered because we set the all time gate record.
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So they're very expensive tickets. Apparently everybody was very happy
about that. That will never get old. That will never
get old. Nothing like bragging about how much money you
charge people and when you set the all time gate record,
they all cheer you for it. But that's what we
got here tonight that they were also on Peacock for
the final time for a main roster ple. The NXT
shows will be continuing on Peacock if you did not
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know from now on Don's ESPN, starting with Wressell Palooza
in a few weeks and tonight in the main event
without anybody out there to help him, Paul Hayman taking
out bron Breaker Bronson Reed banned from the building. Seth
Rollins was all by himself defending the World Heavyweight Championship
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in a fatal four way match against CM Punk, La
Knight and jay Uso. He was going to go it alone.
Except he didn't and the big reveal at the end
of the show, because there were some murmurs going on
about them maybe having some kind of big reveal or
some kind of big angle here for the end of
the show. I tried to stay away from that, but
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I saw that was floating around turned out to be
Becky Lynch dressed like a ninja. Remember years ago when
we had this influx of ninjas in WWE, everybody dressing
up like a ninja. The ninja tonight turned out to
be Becky Lynch coming to her husband's aid. Seth Rollins
stomps cm punk. I've lost track of how many times
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he has stomped this man's face into the ground, going
back to the beginning of the year, It's happened a lot.
And he pinned cm punk to retain the World Heavyweight
champion ship. You know, I don't hate pairing Becky Lynch
and Seth Rollins together on TV. I don't you know.
There was a time many years ago when Vince McMahon
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put them together on TV as baby faces, and it
was an absolute fail. Seriously, it just it did not work.
It made Becky, who was this cool character at the time,
just made her so uncool. This is different though now
they're both heels. Becky has been very entertaining largely since
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coming back and going heel and this Intercontinental title run
that she's been on. So I don't know if the
idea is to keep them together as a permanent pairing.
If Becky Lynch is now officially a member of the Vision,
we don't know that it could have just been a
one night only thing because Seth had nobody else and
so his wife came to the rescue here. I suspect
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that we will get them on television for a while.
I don't think it's a one night thing. But whether
or not that makes her an official member of the
Vision or not, I hope so, I actually hope so.
I think getting a female voice in there is not
a bad idea. Becky is the most obvious person in
that spot, so I didn't mind that so much. Outside
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of what happened there at the end, that being the
most newsworthy element of the match, the main event didn't
do anything for me. You know what did though, John
Cena and Logan Paul Because a couple of weeks ago
on SmackDown, John Cena went out there on TV, and
he got the best promo of his entire retirement run.
I mean he went out there and he put over
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Logan Paul, but he also laced into him and like
a surgeon, you know, with a scalpel, and he was
taking him apart, piece by piece in a way that
we haven't seen John Cena do on the MIC in
a very long time. And then on SmackDown this week,
he had another very strong promo, not as good as
the week before, but it was the promo work that
really got me invested in this match, as invested as
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I could be in a John Cena Logan Paul match.
And then these two guys went out there for twenty
six minutes and they threw everything at each other that
they could possibly throw. They stole every move that they
possibly could from other people that John Cena has wrestled,
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wrestlers and other companies. I mean, that's a Logan Paul thing. Anyway,
they threw everything at each other for twenty six minutes.
I will say it hit me when the match was over.
John Cena just wrapped up the month of August with
the two best matches of his entire retirement runs so far,
one of which was a thirty seven minute banger with
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Cody Rhoades. The other one was a twenty six minute
match here on this show with Logan Paul. Now, imagine
if we would have gotten this John Cena instead of
what we got with that failed heel run for five
months almost half of John Cena's retirement year, feels like
it was. But in the month of August here we
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got two matches that John Cena was able to go
out there and almost turn back the hands of time
and show that, you know what, he's not totally washed.
You know, he still may not be the John Cena
of twenty fifteen, that was ten years ago. I'm not
saying he's that same guy. He isn't, and he hasn't
been for a while. But there was a period of
time there, especially during the early part of the heel rung,
where it just looked like John Cena had regressed so
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much that unless he was in the ring with somebody
who was going to be able to go out there
and really just carry the load, does he even have
it in him to have a singles match that long
thirty seven minutes, twenty six minutes. If you would have
told me that a month and a half ago, two
months ago, that John Cen is going to go out
there and have matches that are that long. Believe me,
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those would have been the last matches in the car
that I would have been looking forward to seeing. I'm like,
what are you out of your mind? You're gonna send
John Cena out there in a singles match for twenty
six minutes. But he's proven a lot of people wrong
this month, and a lot of it does come down
to who he's in the ring with. Cody Rhades did
a great job in their match together at Summer Slim.
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Logan Paul carried his end of the bargain, did a
great job in this match as well, just like he
did earlier in the month at Summer Slim in the
tag team match when he beat Jelly Roll, who was
there tonight. Jelly Roll was there in the front row.
The John Cena Logan Paul match was the match of
the night. The second best match of the night belongs
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to Seamus and Russev, who had a good old fashioned
Donnie Brook match. I applaud both men for at least
getting a pl E spot. I mean, they couldn't get
a PLA match if they would have held Triple H
at gunpoint, but they got one here and they made
the most of it. We also had Becky Lynch and
Nikki Bella, which was the exact opposite of what we
got in those two matches. It was easily the worst
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thing on the entire show. And then we had the
WWE tag team titles were on the line. We had
Roman Reigns in Bronson Reid. They had a match Roman
trying to get his shoes back, and it was all
to build to a big injury angle when the match
was over. Because Roman has to go film Street Fighter.
He's got a go away for a while. In fact,
he's going to be gone basically the entire month of September.
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I think his last day of filming is supposed to
be September twenty sixth. So this was their way of
sending him on his way by having him destroyed by
Seth's goons and do a stretcher job and he was
taken out of the building. So that's how that ended there.
This was a two match show. Sena and Logan and
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the good old fashioned Donnie Brook and the rest was
pretty average stuff. It was newsworthy for the little twist
at the end there with Becky Lynch, which is going
to get a lot of people rightfully makes sense right
talking about the potential for an aj Lee return. People
have been asking me about aj Lee for the last
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couple of years since Punk came back. Is she coming back?
Is she going to be in the rumble? Is she
going to be an evolution? I've got so many questions.
I've seen so many tweets online about aj Lee over
the last few years, and it never happens. You know,
it never comes to fruition. This is the first time
where there's a built in storyline just ready in waiting
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that makes all the sense in the world for her
to be there. I don't know if she is or not.
If you were to ask me, do I think this
is where she comes in? I think it is. But
anybody who tells you they know for sure until it
gets reported by a reputable outlet is lying to you.
They don't know for sure, because if she really truly
wanted to come back, she would have been back by now.
But boy, based on what they did here on this show,
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it sure feels like there's a mixed tag team match
just waiting right there. It's ready in waiting. All they
need is the high sign in the green light from
aj Lee that she's ready to come on in and
we'll talk about things that happened and what was said
in the main event by Seth Rollins. That seems to
indicate that that's probably what we're gonna get. But again,
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outside of those two matches and a couple of newsworthy
things with the Roman injury angle and the Becky stuff
at the end, not a show that you really need
to go out of your way to see. Pretty average
stuff otherwise, And so ends the Peacock Era when it
comes to these shows, and the Peacock Era doesn't really
go out with a whimper. It doesn't really go out
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with a bang, if I had to describe it. It
goes out with more of a shoulder shrug. This is
your clash in Paris, twenty twenty five review. I Am
the Solemn Monster. It is the final day of August.
It is Sunday, August thirty first, twenty twenty five. I
Am the Solemn Monster. Thank you for hanging out with
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day early. One of the things talked about on the show,
very interesting question that was submitted as part of the
mailbag is Roman Reign's a hypocrite for saying in a
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recent interview with Stephanie McMahon that it was easier to
get over as a top star in the Attitude era
that it's a lot harder today to get over as
a top star in WWE. It's a very interesting question
I talked about that. That's one of many things covered
on episode nine twenty seven. We have not had the
chance to listen to yet. You can do so when
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we are done here with this review. So let's get
into it. Here. They were in Paris, France. They had
a custom Eiffel tower. You know, it's rare these days
outside of WrestleMania that you get any kind of custom
they just designed. It's just everything is just so bland,
and there's just a sameness to it all. They don't
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put the same level of effort, and you know, obviously
I'm sure it cost them a pretty penny to put
these together, but you just don't see that effort being
put in much anymore. So I can appreciate it, and
I want to call it out when they do it
because I think it's really cool and I wish it's
something they would do more of when they do some
kind of custom element for the sets, especially if it
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ties into the location, and they did that here. They
had a custom Eiffel tower entranceway for the talent when
they walked out to the ring. Again, I will I
will be first in line to lobby for custom entrances
here for these shows custom sets. They opened with Roman
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Reigns jerking the curtain here on this show, but I mean,
obviously for what happened in the main event, it kind
of had to happen this way, one on one with
Bronson Reid. Whereas they call it the tribal chief again,
the tribal thief. Roman coming out got that megastar reaction
as you would expect. They sang to him, they showed
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jelly roll post malone. They were sitting in the front row,
right behind the announcers. So early in the match, Roman
lifted Reid up on his shoulders almost, you know, like
in a Samoan drop position, but he did so very slowly,
couldn't support his weight, collapsed under the weight. You know,
Bronton Reid has actually slimmed down quite a bit. I'm
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not saying he's not a big guy anymore, but he
actually has slimmed down noticeably. So outside the ring, Reid
slam Roman onto the announced desk. Rains bounds back. He
cleared off the table, read Though clotheslined him before he
could do anything. Back in the ring, Rains ran at red,
read though, caught him and hit a world strongest slam.
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So then Reid worked always exciting chinlock for a while.
Roman worked out of it, read though caught him with
a Samoan drop. Paul was out there. I should point
out that Paul Hayman was out there. He had the
shula fala around his neck, so bron Breaker was nowhere
to be found, but Paul Hayman hands read the shoe
La falla and read is posing inside the ring With it,
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he tried to take off roman shoe. Rains, though kicked
him away. Roman eventually closedline, Read over the top rope
and out to the floor. Rains landed a drive by,
and then he threw Read into the ring. Steps back inside.
Roman set up for a Superman punch Read They'll caught him,
slammed him before he could hit or before hitting a
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running sent on, so Reid lifted him up. Roman, though
elbowed his way out of it, rolled Read up for
a near fall. Roman went for another Superman punch and
Bronton caught him. Countered into a death valley driver for
a two count with Rains on the outside. Now, Reid
went for a dive before he could actually dive through
the ropes, though Roman caught him with a punch. I
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think it was a Superman punch. Rains followed that up
with a proper Superman punch, but it was only good
enough for a two count. Rains went for a spear,
Reid caught him, dispatched him to the outside, where Reid
did finally hit a suicide dive back inside, Reid went
for a tsunami splash. Roman moved out of the way.
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Roman went for a spear, Reid caught him. He just
I love how he just literally just stopped him, Like
Roman is coming in for the spear, and Reed just
stops him. Deadness tracks and delivers a sit out power
bomb for a good near fall. Reid went to the top.
Roman cut him off with a punch and Roman followed
up with a Superman punch and a Samoan drop from
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the middle row. And then all it took was one
rains hits a spear and he gets the three count.
Roman reigns defeats Bronson Reed little over twenty minutes in.
They had a solid match. You know, it was elevated
by the crowd, and the crowd was really the third
man as they call it, for the entire night. There
was stuff on this show. They were quiet for We'll
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talk about that women's match here in a little bit,
But the crowd was as animated all night as you
would expect them to be. They were doing their chance,
they were singing, they were having a good time. So
when you have a hot crowd like that, it can
take a good match and elevate it to a very
good match. It could take a solid match and elevate
it to a pretty good match. And that's kind of
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how I felt about this match here. It was solid.
You know, I've seen both have more exciting matches and
be part of more exciting matches, but the crowd helped
elevate it a little bit more. Here's the thing about
Roman Reigns. Roman Reigns has become a master at getting
the most out of the bare minimum with what he does.
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He really doesn't do anything out of the ordinary. He
doesn't really take any risks beyond the normal risks that
you would see him take in the course of a match,
and he just knows how to milk a reaction. This
is what Hogan became a master of. It's like when
you would see Hogan go to Japan, he was working
a totally different style because he knew it was a
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different audience. But in front of the audience here, he
knew the kind of match that people were looking for,
so sure he could do more, but he did have to.
He can get away with doing only what he needed
to do, and in his own way, that's what Roman
reigns after all these years, has mastered You know, he
only needs to do what he needs to do and
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he will get a reaction no matter what, because they
were cheering and chanting and singing for him the entire
time here in this match. The match itself had a
very deliberate pace and made it very slow in parts.
I wouldn't say it was ever boring. I think deliberate
is a good word for it. But the real story
came after the match. It wasn't even the match itself,
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it's what happened afterwards. Rains was posing on top of
the announced desk outside and Paul Hammon is in the
ring and he's kneeling down and he's tending to brons
and rec and Roman turns around and he sees it.
So he goes back into the ring and he's stalking
Paul Haman. Hayman doesn't realize that he's in the ring
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until he does, until he turns around, and then he
sees Roman, and now he is begging for his life.
He's begging, he's pleading, he's all terrified and he's screaming,
I love you, my tribal chief. Haman then acknowledges Roman
and he removes the shoe la Falla from his neck
and he hands the shoola Falla to Roman Reigns, who
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accepts it and then raises it into the air and
everybody cheers. Roman then drops it. He grabs Hayman and
he locks him in the guillotine and he's sinching it
in and Hayman is flailing and he's tapping, and he's
flailing in his tat and at the very end, you know,
he goes limp and Roman lets him go, and Hayman
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falls to the mat. So Roman goes back outside the
ring on the announced dead. He's got the shoe Lafalla
and the timekeeper Berkeley Berkeley Opman, the son of the
shock Master. He's been timekeeper in WWE for many years now.
He comes over with a pair of scissors. He's cutting
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the laces. So you should have kept him together. You
could have put that in like a hall of fame
one day, if they ever actually have a physical hall
of fame, you could put it in the hall of fame.
But he cut the laces. Roman then gets a sharpie.
He begins signing each shoe and he's throwing them out
to the crowd and I think he only threw two
of the shoes out before bron Breaker appeared. And the
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way they did this is the camera. We didn't see
bron Breaker until all of a sudden, the camera just
pans over and bron Breaker is standing there. He's on
the timekeeper's barricade. Now he's over standing on the French
announced desk because he had the English announced desk. And
then to the left of the English announced desk, if
you're facing the ring, is the French desk. Bron Breaker
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is standing there. He's measuring Roman and he dies from
that table to the English announced desk and he spears
Roman through the announced desk. Thankfully it broke because these
tables now are reinforced, they don't break as easily as
they used to. But this table did break, so they
go crashing through the desk. They show Jelly Rolls standing
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there in the front row. He's like, oh my god,
he's looking all concerned. Thankfully he stayed right where he was.
He didn't involve himself. He was smart enough not to
involve himself. Here. Breaker went into the ring and along
with Bronson Reid, they helped Paul Hayman to his feet.
So the heels were leaving and Roman is being tended to.
Eventually Roman got back to his feet. He's favoring his ribs,
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but he doesn't want any help. He's gonna leave on
his own power. And he walks and he makes it
as far as the head of the aisleway before he
could even really start going down the aisle, bron Breaker
sees this, and from about twenty feet away, bron Breaker
gets a nice running head start here and he sprints
down the aisle and he spears Roman for a second time,
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spears him right down to the ground. So the heels
roll reins back into the ring. Bronson Red heads up
top and he hits a tsunami splash to Roman reigns.
More officials come pouring out. Hurricane Helms is out there,
Jason Jordan is out there. I think Adam Pierce might
have been out there. There's a whole bunch of officials out there.
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So they bring out a stretcher for Roman, and with
Roman now strapped to the gurney, Reid runs back down
to the ring. He goes up top. Roman now is
completely defenseless because he is strapped to this board and
he has nowhere to go. Can't even get his hands
up or anything, and Bronson Reed comes flying off with
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a second tsunami splash. And I'm watching all of this
play out because this has been going on for a
while now, and I'm like, I know Roman's he got
family in the building, but boy, it would sure be
a good time for them to be out here to
come to this man's aid. So he gets squashed for
a second time. And then finally, after much delay, jay
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Uso finally shows up. I guess he was busy yeating
himself elsewhere in the building. Jay Uso finally shows up
to assist his cousin. He fights off the heels until
the heels then got back in the ring and bron
Breaker speared jay Uso Bronson Reid also went back up top.
He hit a third tsunami splash to Roman Reins, who
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was still strapped to the board, and finally they were
able to get the heels out of there, and Roman
Reigns was flattened like a pancake and eventually he was
stretchered out. The postmatch angle lasted almost as long as
the fucking match. I said the match went about twenty minutes.
This whole postmatch angle went just about fifteen minutes, so
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when you tally it all up, we didn't even get
to the second match of this show until the beginning
of hour two, which is completely ridiculous. But part of
that is also the first match didn't actually start until
we were about twenty minutes fifteen twenty minutes into the show,
so that entire first hour of this ple was just
gone at that point. It is inexplicable that it took
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jay usso that long when he saw what was going
after the first spear on the table, that it took
him that long to make his way out to help
his cousin out. The angle itself not really surprising. I
didn't know if they were going to do it on
this show or on Raw this Monday. I believe he
begins filming on Tuesday, so it was going to be
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a little dicey whether or not he'd even be able
to be on the show on Monday. I believe he's
filming for Street Fighter in Australia, so if they were
going to do something, it had to be on this show.
That was not surprising, and as an Angle, I thought
it was a fine way to write him off. I
personally think it would have meant more to give Bronson
Read the win here. In the big picture, it's not
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gonna hurt Bronson Reid. It's not really gonna end up
being that big of a deal. But you know, Roman,
Roman could have gotten his shoes back and you could
have shot the exact same angle after he lost the match.
Everything else could have played out exactly the way it did,
but it would have been huge, you know, for Bronson
Reid to get a win here, and they opted not
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to do that. Part of the reason may have been because,
you know, Seth Rollins was going to win at the
end of the show, so maybe they wanted to give
the fans a babyface win here at the beginning. That's
always possible. Again, the loss doesn't hurt Bronson Reid. He
you know, he took the majority of the match, got
his heat back with the angle when it was over
three tsunami splashes, so I thought it was still very effective.
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In the back after, Adam Pierce was livid talking to
bron Breaker and Bronson Reid, and he also informed them, well,
first he ejected them, kicked him out of the building,
but he informed them that Roman had been taken to
the hospital and they're like, well, what about Hayman cares
about him? What about Paul Hayman? And Pierce said, well,
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you guys can join him, And they weren't very happy
about this because they said Seth Rolins still has a match.
We're not going nowhere. Seth Rollins has a match later
in the show, and Pierce said, if I even so
much as smell you coming back to the building, you
will both be suspended indefinitely without pay. So this is
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how they set things up for the main event. Hayman's
gone breaker and Reader Gone. Seth is going into this
main event against three other guys with nobody there to
help him and watch his back. So that was the
purpose of this opening the show so they could set
things up for the main event. At the very end.
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Now we have the WYAT six. After this, Joe Gacy
and Dexter Loomis defending the WWE tag team titles against
the Street Profits. Angelo Dawkins put his own arm out
to stop montese Ford from starting the match. I got this.
He wanted to start the match, okay, so he let
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him start the match. Meanwhile, montes Ford ended up tagging
himself in after dawkins initial exchange with Dexter Loomis didn't
really go too well, and Angelo Dawkins did not look
very happy about this at all. He was like, okay,
all right, fam and he got back out on the apron.
So I'm watching this going uh oh, where did this
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come from? The why? It's worked over Ford for a
while until Dawkins made a hot tag back into the match.
Dawkins ran while to hit Joe Gasey with a sent
on bomb, profits hit Gaysey with an electric chair drop
slash blockbuster combo. Dexter broke up the cover. Ford missed
a frog splash, which led to a messed up spot.
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Gasey went to go use Loomis as a weapon. Ford
just fell down before being hit. Gacy dropped Loomis on
top of him. Dawkins tackled Gasey into the barricade outside
and then he became distracted when Eric Rowan walked over
and the two of them are looking at each other,
and that gave Loomis an opportunity to just charge in
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tackle Dawkins over the barricade montes. Ford then wiped out
Loomis and Rowan with his dive out over the ring post.
Now he went to go get back in the ring,
and hiding underneath the ring poking her head out is
Nicky Cross, and Nicky Cross grabs a hold of montes
Ford's leg so he can't get back in the ring.
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The referee is distracted, he's on the other side of
the ring tending to something, doesn't see what's going on here.
Uncle Howdie comes over, grabs montes Ford, gives him sister
Abigail on the floor, so Ford is laid out, so
they put Ford back in the ring. Gasey and Loomis
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give him a combo sit out, power bomb neck breaker.
They call it the Plague and they got the win,
so the Wyatt six retained the tag team titles. Here
solid stuff, I mean, no real downtime like we had
in the opening match. There were moments where it was,
you know, a chin lock here and there. This was
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basically a sprint for a good ten or eleven minutes
or so. I think this would have been a fine
television match on SmackDown. This was the first time where
the Wyots I feel like were really treated like heels.
Ye had Nikki Cross getting involved there at the end.
Uncle Howdie gets involved blatantly right lays out montes Ford
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on the floor, so it certainly felt like a heel
move here at the end of this the tension though
between Angelo Dawkins and montes Ford, it felt so manufactured.
They did nothing to set it up. All we had
to set this up was just a very brief few
lines from Bo Dallas on Friday where he saw them
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in the back and he made a mention of them like,
are you really brothers? You know, you're basically you're not
family like us, And when we beat you, you'll see,
you know whether or not you two are really family
or not. Right. It was something to that effect that
was it. It's not as if that there's been this
overt effort on television over the last several weeks to
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build up tension, like they've been telling some kind of
a story between montes Ford and Angelo Dawkins. By and large,
everything's been fine. All of a sudden, you see that
tension there at the beginning of the match, and I'm like,
where the hell did this come from? It just felt
so forced to me. It felt very manufactured that all
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of a sudden they're teasing a street profits breakup when
they've really done nothing to really build up to it,
but they sure wanted you to feel like, Okay, we
could be heading in this direction soon. It made me
also remember on the pre show Big E before they
went on the air here with the main card, big
E made a comment about how this match is basically
a must win for the Street Profits. If they don't
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win this match, he basically was saying, I don't know
where they go from here, So they're definitely teasing a
new direction for the Street Profits. It could very well
result in a breakup. Again. There's been some start and
stop storytelling in the past that kind of gave you
the indication they might be going down that road, and
then they pulled back or they swerved you and they
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went a different way. I've been waiting for a Montes
Ford singles push for a couple of years now. There
was a brief window in I guess it was two
years ago, right heading into WrestleMania thirty nine. That was
the year that Ford was in the Elimination Chamber match
for the US title where I really thought, Okay, this
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looks like they're going to move forward with it, and
then they didn't. It was completely dropped. It was completely abandoned.
So I have no idea. I'm not going to sit
here and tell you, Okay, Triple H is finally going
to do it. Because TRIPLEH has sort of dangled that
carrot before and then pulled back. I don't know if
he's going to do it or not. It seems like
that could be the direction here. I will believe it
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when I see it, because I feel the same way
the Big East did on the pre show when he's like,
I don't know where these guys go from here. They've
been tag team champions, they didn't have the belts for
very long. Now. They had an opportunity to get them back.
They failed, short of moving them over to the Tag
team division on Raw, which could really use the help
right now. I don't know what else you do with
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these two. It's like running on the hamster wheel. It
took them years just to win the belts back again.
They went four years between tag team title reigns, and
this was as forgettable a rain as you will ever see.
What is the end goal here? I think Angelo Dawkins
as well. There could be a singles push in it
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for him. He's been very impressive in some of these matches.
But montes Ford I think is where the money is.
If you had to put money down as a single
on one or the other. My money is on montes Ford.
My money is on a montes Ford, Bianca Bellair, Parry,
a montes Forward, Bianca bell Air, Heel Pairy at some
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point down the road. I've always felt that way, but
every year that goes by, it just makes me wonder
if they're ever going to actually pull the trigger and
do it. May as well, because like big Ee said,
I don't know where you go with these guys from here.
I really don't now. Up next, we had Becky Lynch
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defending the Women's Intercontinental Championship against Nicky Bella. Noticeable booze.
Nothing overwhelming like Logan Paul. Noticeable booze though for Nicki
Bella when she came out cheers, noticeable cheers, especially at
the end when she won for Becky Lynch, so that
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was interesting, not surprising, but interesting. Nicki came at her
with a fury right out of the gate, so Becky
retreated to the outside. Nicki went for a sliding drop
kick through the ropes to the floor. Becky had moved
out of the way, so Nicki just didn't even land
on her feet, she landed on the ground, She crashed
and burned back inside, Becky landed a leg drop from
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the top rope for a two count. There was a
spot outside the ring a few minutes into this where
Nicki started slamming. Becky was supposed to be faced first repeatedly,
you know, over and over again into the announced desk,
right top part of the announced desk, and I should
say that she was ramming her hands first into the
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announced desk. They really should have switched to a different
camera angle for this, because all you saw was Becky,
you know, her hands were going into the announced desk,
and it just looked really bad. They should have shot
this a little bit differently. Then there was a very
embarrassing spot where Nicky went for a disaster kick like
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she was Cody Rhodes, not from like, uh, the center
part of the rope. She went to the corner, but
she came off the middle rope with her version of
a disaster kick, and she went for it before bothering
to see if Becky was in position now. She did
initially turn around to just kind of take stock of
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where Becky was, and Becky was not in the position
that you would have wanted her to be in. Nicky
turns back around and she goes through with the kick.
I guess expecting that Becky was going to be there,
but she wasn't and she didn't bother checking. So she
goes and throws this kick. The only thing is she
turns around, there ain't nobody there. There's nobody there. She
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threw a kick at John Cena and Becky. What made
it even worse. You can't even say it was a
glancing blow, like it did not connect. But Becky in
the moment stumbled like she was like, oh, I got
to sell this, and then she quickly realized, okay, this
is this looked terrible. I'm not going to sell this,
But initially she kind of did. It was it was terrible,
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Like she wasn't even in the neighborhood, so that looked
very bad. Nicki briefly sold leg pain. I'll bet her
ego hurt more than her leg did. Nicki went for
the rack attack, Becky worked out of it, and Nicky
ran it Becky Becky moved. Nicki went to the apron,
so Nicky went to the top rope. Becky cut her off,
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landed a superplex from the second rope for a two count.
Bella went to the UH fearless lock, which she had
used earlier in the match. She went back to her
fearless lock. Nicki, though got to the ropes or Becky
did rather broke the hold, so the action spilled outside.
Becky dismantled the ring steps. She tried to lift Nicki
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up Nicki. They fought back and ended up hitting a
bellabuster on the flat part of the ring steps. Back inside,
Nicki hit Becky with her own manhandle slam for a
near fall. Nicki then tried for a disarm her Becky
slipped out did a variation of the same finish that
she used. I want to say it was, was it backlash? Whatever?
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It was? Back in May, she used a variation of
the same finish that she won with in her triple
threat match with Bailey and Lyra Valkyrio, only this was
not as smooth, but basically a backslide, and she got
a backslide and she won with it. Now, that was
a great finish a few months ago. This was. It
wasn't terrible, but it wasn't as good as that finish was,
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but it was effective and she won with it. And
she retains the Intercontinental title. And I said this, you know,
I tweeted this out when the match was over. I said, well,
that was certainly a match that happened. I'll even go
as far as to say it was the best women's
match on the entire show. That's about the nicest thing
I could say about this match. Boy. You know, I
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sure wish we had that Stephanie Vecer match on this show.
This was nowhere near the level of the matches for
the most part that Becky had with Lyra Valkyria, outside
of their Summer Slim match, which wasn't very good. This
was the worst match, though, of Becky's run so far
since she came back and since she won the Intercontinental title.
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You know, she tried to make something out of this.
They just weren't on the same page for most of it.
It just didn't feel like they were in sync together
the way they did the finish. They may be tempted
to run this back again. I'm sure these two would
love to go back out and have a second crack
at it, try to have a better match if they
insist on doing this match again. And I don't think
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there's a single person out there who was asking for
a rematch here. But if they are going to do
a rematch, you could do it on TV. This would
be the perfect time to use their go to stipulation
with all the plunder and all the weapons and the
Kendo sticks and do a match like that, like a
no DQ match, so they at least have the bells
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and whistles that they can rely on. I don't have
any interest in seeing this run back with any stipulation,
but if they're gonna do it, I think that would
be the way to go about doing it. And the
thing with Nicky Bella, you know, outside of that one
terrible botch, it wasn't as if well, outside of that
one botch it was a great match. No, it wasn't
a great match. Was It was the weakest match on
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the entire show and one of the worst matches that
Becky has had all year, if not the worst. The
thing with Nicky Bella, though, Nicky Bella, it's not that
Nicky is awful, She's always terrible. She can't wrestle, right,
It's not that when Nicky was the Divas Champion, Okay,
when she was on top back in her day, she
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was average at best, compared to the quality of the
women that we are used to seeing now in WWE.
When you talk about Becky and Lyra and Charlotte and
Rhea and Bianca and Eo and Osca and on and
on and on, the quality is just so far superior
to what Nicki was working with. And frankly, Nicki herself,
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even when she was in her prime and the longest
reigning Divis champion of all time and all of that stuff,
she was still average at best compared to what we
see today. So now she comes back and I know
everybody is singing her praises and how revolutionary she was
and all of this, and you know, blah blah blah.
We hear it in every single promo, But again they
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build her up to be something that she really isn't.
And I'm not saying she can't go out there and
have a good match or a solid match, but this
was certainly not it. I'm left even wondering how we
even got to this point because part of the issue also,
this is absolutely part of it. She has had one
other singles match this entire year since she came back
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at the Royal Rumble. The only other singles match that
this woman has had was a raw match against Chelsea
Green like six weeks ago. So ring rust and her
lack of matches of any kind, tag singles or anything,
I'm sure played a role in this. She's not getting
the reps in, she's not wrestling on a regular basis,
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she's not even wrestling on a part time basis, and
so that's going to play a role as well. And
all of that conspired to give you what you saw
here on this show tonight. There are much better opponents
for Becky to be in the ring working with. One
of those names is the name that I just mentioned
a little while ago, which is Stephanie Bacaierr. Now we
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should find out tomorrow what their big solution is to
this women's championship vacancy. They delayed it in another week,
so we have to find out tomorrow. Based on what
Adam Pierce was saying, it sounds like it's one name.
He was just trying to work out the details. I
hope it is just one name. Whoever that name is
going to be. As long as it's not Nickcki Bella,
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whoever that name is going to be, I'd rather they
not go through the whole rigmarole of like a multi
person fiasco, and that name, whoever that name is going
to be, is likely going to end up being the
next women's champion because I just don't think Stephanie needs
the title right now. I think it would be a
mistake to put the belt on her right now. Stephanie
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didn't even wrestle at all the entire month of August, like,
she's been a total non factor on these shows. You
got to build her up. You got to build her up, honestly.
I mean she won that Battle Royal Evolution. She's been
on the main roster for I don't know what two months,
three months now, not that long. She's barely been established.
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She's very popular and everybody loves the Devil's Kiss, but
she's not established enough, and she's somebody who could be
a major player for them. You need to take your
t so that first championship win really means something. I
think a better position for her to be in would
not be challenging for the Women's World Championship, but for
her to be challenging Becky Lynch for the Intercontinental title.
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And I think that's exactly the kind of person that
Becky should be working with and dropping the title to eventually,
it's not Nicky Bella. Nicki Bella is from the past.
I don't even know how Nicki Bella ended up with
a Women's Intercontinental title match when she's had one other
match the entire year, one other singles match, and she's
fighting for the championship here. That's a whole other story.
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Stephanie Vaquier is the one who should be in that position.
That's what I would do, and then I would eventually
build up to her winning the IC title. Let her
get a run with that, just like she had the
North American title in NXT, and eventually you can build
to her winning the World championship next year. That's the
kind of person that should be in this spot. That's
the kind of person who would benefit from working with
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a Becky Lynch. Look that rubuff On steat definitie a
big name right for her to be working with, and
both really good. I think the two of them would
probably have pretty incredible chemistry together. I mean, you don't
know until they're in the ring together, but I just
think someone like that should be in this position, not
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LP dot com slash Slo Monster. Now. Backstage, Jay Usso
was selling the injured ribs from earlier. Adam Pierce walked
in and wondered, are you gonna be able to compete
in the four way match? Later, Jay insisted on wrestling
in the main event because before Roman got carted off
to the hospital. He told Jay go out there and
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win that title back. So now he's all motivated to
go out there and to win the World Championship back.
After that, it was time for Shamus and Russev in
a good old fashioned Donnybrook match. Anything goes, pinfall or
submission in the ring. Again, it's not false count anywhere.
Pinfall or submission in the ring is the only way
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to win this match. Now, this is a good moment here.
Since I just got done talking about the women and
I'm about to talk about Seamus, I just very briefly
want to talk talk about a couple of videos that
I saw on social media today. I saw Ria Ripley
tweet out what she did talking about fans in France
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who swarmed her earlier today ash and literally had her
up against the door of her uber as she was
trying to get in her uber to get to the
arena or wherever it was that she was going. She
wasn't on the show tonight, but she was there and
it was scary. It was scary because there was nobody
there with her. There's no security, there's nobody from WWE,
there's no other wrestlers there with her. She's all by
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herself and she is swarm by this group of people
that are just obsessed with getting up in her face
and taking selfies and sticking papers in her face for
her to autograph, and it's just overwhelming. And then I
saw video. It must have been in a mall. I
don't know where they were, but Seamus was also mobbed
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by a group of people to the point where there
was a female fan in the group that was almost
trampled over, and seam has had it's like tell everybody, hey, hey,
back up, back up, and he's like talking to the fan,
are you okay? Are you okay? Again? Very scary situation
here because everybody is all up in their space and
there's nobody there seemingly to separate them, from what I
could tell. So this has been a recurring theme in
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other places as well. It's not like France is the
only place where this has happened. This has happened in
other places as well. And when it comes to the
women in WWE, obviously there have been some very scary
situations in the past, right Sonya Deville, Roxane Perez Live Morgan.
Everybody has had stalkers in different situations even far more
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serious than this. But in situations like this, it's to
the point now where I don't see how WWE cannot,
especially for some of these top female names who were
super popular on social media and have people who are
just absolutely obsessed with them. It's to the point now
where WWE and TKO need to very seriously consider when
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they are in these places for these pls, having these
talents escorted around by security. This is what it's come
to now, because at some point something very bad is
going to happen, and we'll be talking about this and
having this conversation after the fact, after something bad has
already happened. The whole point is to try to avoid
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that altogether and not get to a point where something
really bad happens because people just have no self control.
Part of it is that people get all swept up
in celebrity. Oh my god, I can't believe Seamus is
right here and Rhea Ripley is over here right, and
they get all nervous and they get starstruck. And that's
totally normal. But that's very different than getting up in
someone's personal space or putting your hands on them and
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swarming them and stampeding them. You cannot do that. Like
I'm watching that video of Rhea Ripley by her car
being sworn by these absolute fucking losers, and I'm like,
why in the world would you think that it is
appropriate to conduct yourself in this way? Why? And it's
not just kids. I mean, these are people that are
old enough to where they should know better. Like, it
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can't be allowed to happen like that anymore. There's going
to have to be somebody who steps in and says, okay,
we need to have people escorting these women around when
they are in these places because it is a very
dangerous situation, or maybe come up with like a buddy system,
you know, where you have some of the male talents
hanging out with them. I don't know, but something has
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to happen here, because this is not the first time
something like this has happened. And at least in the
shamous video, Shamus was there. He was able to kind
of back people up and check on that person and
make sure that fan was okay. But I'm telling you,
there's going to come a point where something, you know,
there won't be a Shamus there. There was a video
not that long ago in an airport. I think it
might have been Rhea and there was somebody who was
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hounding her and Kevin Owens was there. Kevin Owens came
over and just to check on her and said, of
you okay, and Riea was like, yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine.
This can't happen now in this match. They had a
makeshift bar that was set up at ringside, which I
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could certainly use after the last match we just talked about.
They also had giant barrels of Irish whiskey at ringside.
I'm shocked they were unbranded. They brand everything else, they
branded the tables. I'm shocked they didn't have branding fireball
whiskey branding on the side of the barrels. Shockingly, I
know this is going to be a big surprise to
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some of you. But they brawled to start the match,
and so we had here the action spilling outside. Very early,
Seamus ran Rusev into the ring post. Seamus quickly grabbed
a slim gym table. Rucev, though ran Seamus into the
ring post and then grabbed a slim gym table of
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his own, and he set it up next to Seamus's
slimjym table and After all of this, they took the
action back in the ring. After all that, they left
the tables out there and the action spills into the ring.
Russev hit Seamus with a kendo stick over and over
and over again. Russev then gives Seamus the ten beats.
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He pulled a turnbuckle pad off ran into an Irish
curz backbreaker. Though, Seamus grabbed the kendo stick and hit
Russev with it multiple times, and then he grabbed multiple
chairs from underneath the ring. Seamus miss Russev with a
chair shot and Russev hit a heel kick only got
a one count out of it. Rusev grabbed a chair
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and he started working Seamus over with it. The two
of them battled for possession of a chair. Rusev came
away with it, but then promptly ran into a running
knee strike. After that, Seamus took his own move back
and he hit Rusev with the ten beats. Russev threw
Seamus over the makeshift bar that was set up outside
the ring. Then he grabbed a barstool. Seamus though punched
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Russev and gave Russev ten beats over the bar. He
tried to leave through the crowd. Russev did. Seamus, though,
stopped him and gave Russev ten beats with a schaleley.
Back inside the ring, Seamus ran Rusev into the chair
that Rusev had wedged earlier in between the ropes, and
then Seamus hit a Celtic cross, only for a two count.
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Seamus set up for a broad kick. Russev rolled out
to the floor wisely, Seamus climbed up top. When he
came down, though on the floor, Russev blasted him in
the mid section with the candowstick, right across the ribs.
Russev dismantled the ring steps that were over by the
bar and slammed Seamus through the bar. I think it
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was a urinagi through the bar. Back inside, Rusev locked
in the accolade, but Seamus slam Russev backwards onto a
pile of chairs. The action spilled back outside and the
two of them fought on top of the whiskey barrels. Now.
I don't know how tall the whiskey barrels were. They
were tall enough that when they were standing on top
of them, they were fairly high up there, so they
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were on top of the whiskey barrels. Russev locks in
the accolade to Seamus on top of the barrels, and
they got this great shot, like a faraway camera shot
where you see all the fans in the background and
you just see them there right on top of those barrels.
It just was a really cool visual. So he had
him in the accolade. Seamus, though, worked out of it,
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and then he ended up hitting white noise off the
barrels down through the two slim gym tables that were
set up earlier in the match, and so they go
crashing and burning through the two tables. Both men dragged
themselves back into the ring. The crowd was very loud
for them both. They were super into this match. BRUCEV
grabbed the Shechalley, but when he turned around, Seamus caught
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him with a brokick, and you're thinking, okay, that's it.
Covers him and he kicks out. And what made it
so great is that the bro kick, after all these years,
is still one of the most protected moves in all
of wrestling. Very very few people kick out of the
bro kick. It's happened before, but it's not a regularly
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Like John Cena, his attitude adjustment, right, I mean, at
some point I've probably kicked out of the attitude adjustment.
You've probably kicked out of the attitude adjustment, but you've
never kicked out of a bro kick before. So they
made it out like a big deal that Russev was
able to kick out. Russev came back and he cracked
at chiallee right across Seamus's back, almost like a knockout shot.
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He shoots the half, he covers him. Seamus kicks out
at two point nine, and Russev is beside himself. He's screaming,
he can't believe it. He's just incredibly frustrated. So he
goes for the accolade, but he's using the chially across
Seamus's mouth. It's like in his mouth and he's pulling
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back on it. And what ends up happening is Russev
falls backwards. I thought they were about to do a
spot where Seamus falls backwards and pins Russev. Russev's shoulders
were not down, His back was down, but not his shoulders,
but he still had the move locked in and he
had that ball across Seamus's mouth. So picture when Edge
used to break the bottom piece off of a chair
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and place the bar in someone's mouth. He did it
to Roman Reins like in a cross face. That's basically
what he was doing Seamus. He's got his legs around Seamus.
Shamus ain't going nowhere, you know, He's locked in this hold.
And finally Seamus taps out. Russev wins the match, and
they claimed on commentary, Michael Cole did that that is
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only the second time in Seamus's entire career that he
has tapped out, not passed out, but tapped out. The
first time that Seamus ever tapped out in the match
was actually back in the Thunderdome era and he tapped
out in the hurt lock to Bobby Lashley, which honestly,
in and of itself, is shocking to me that even
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in twenty twenty one, Seamus had been doing this for
so long, well over a decade, and it was only
four years ago that he tapped out for the first time.
So this is all only the second time he's ever
tapped out in the match, doing a real solid for
his friend, because Russev is like one of his best friends,
so got no issue putting this guy over in the
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strongest way possible, and it really doesn't get any stronger
than that. Easily the match of the night up until
this point, and the best of their entire series together.
I'm happy they gave these to a pl E spot.
I'm really happy they gave them a pl spot now
because this ended up being one of the best things
on the entire show. The crowd was quiet for a
while when this was over, just because it took a
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while for them to start to get back up. I
mean once Scena came out, obviously they were. But it
was good that they had that gap in between the
two matches because I'm sure they needed a little come
down here. But this was as fun as you could
expect it to be. Is when it comes to these
WWE weapons matches, you kind of know what to expect,
so they made the most of it, you know. I
thought it was fun. I enjoyed it again. I thought
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the visual of the accolade on top of the whiskey
barrels was really cool. Seamus always delivers in these situations.
Russev needed this because Russev has not had that one
standout match since coming back to WWE, and he's been
back for several months now, so he really needed. I
think a match like this Seamus was able to give
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it to him. The win means more for him than
it would for Shamus, because Russev really needed something. The
only question now is Okay, he won. Do they have
some big push in mind for him? I don't know.
You know, the two champions on the brand are both heels,
so I don't think that's in his immediate future. So
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where do you go from here with him? I mean,
you could feud him with a big name like a
Jay Uso or someone like that, but there's got to
be something in mind otherwise this goes to waste and
it doesn't mean anything like a win over Seamus in
a PL match like this and tapping him out should
have value. It should mean something, but only if you
can follow up with something meaningful. That's going to be
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up to Paul Levek and what he had planned for
this guy. So I certainly hope that they have some
plan in mind for him coming out of this. Shamus
continues to be basically, you know, a gatekeeper on the
Raw brand. Hopefully he will have his story at some
point for the IC title. That's still the biggest story
that they have not done with him yet. They've kind
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of danced around it and what the title means to him.
But he still has yet to win the Intercontinental Championships.
So hopefully at some point he will get his story.
As far as what Russev's next story is, we'll have
to wait until Monday and see. But he needs to
be on that show Monday night, and they have to
give us some indication of what's coming next for now.
On commentary, Wade Barrett mentioned that there was a list
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recently in the New York Times technically the Athletic, but
I think the Times owns the Athletic. But it was
a list of the twenty five most impactful play by
play voices in TV history in the twenty first century,
and he put over Michael Cole. Michael Cole, just to
clarify here, is not one of the twenty five names
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on that list. He is one of the basically honorable
mentions on that list. And what really struck me is
that it wasn't just Michael Cole. Now I should mention
Joe Testator is on the top twenty five list, I
believe because he's a real sports voice. I heard him
this weekend. He was doing college football, so Testatur is
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on there. They mentioned that, But what really struck me
is that it wasn't just that Michael Cole was casually
mentioned by the author as like an honorable mention. It
was Jim Ross and Michael Cole, and they never mentioned
Jim Ross. And I understand that Jim Ross doesn't work
for WWE right now, and he hasn't been there in
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many years, Like I understand that, but his voice is
so and will always be synonymous with WWE. Like his
most famous calls, which are some of the most famous
calls in wrestling history, are from when he worked for WWI.
He was also mentioned in that And to not even
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mention his name and just completely ignore that is so
fucking petty to me. Like that really really stuck out
to me here. I'm not saying that they had to
like celebrate it, but like to just completely ignore the
fact that he was mentioned alongside Michael Cole. They really
were mentioned almost as like a tandem, like those were
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the two wrestling names, you know, like on the list.
I just thought that was so fucking petty. But get
for Michael Cole. I mean, look, Michael Cole has been
doing this for a very long time, and kudos to him.
He's been there for many, many years. He's gotten his
flowers in recent years when people used to shit on
him all the time, and he's very good at what
he does. But I just thought, how can you just
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completely leave out Jim Ross when he's such an important
part of the fabric of this company and some of
the most famous calls in WWE of all time, and
to not even mention the name is just ridiculous to me.
But after this, we had what ended up being the
best match on the entire show. We had John Cena
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one on one against Logan. Paul Sina got the monster
reaction that you would expect here for his final appearance,
his final match ever in Paris, Alisha Taylor gave him
the greatest of all time introduction that he gets every
time he comes out on TV now because Mark Nash
was not there, so Alicia Taylor did it. She was
a ring announcer. Logan used his titanium fist to his advantage.
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Early in the match, Sena fought back. He did the
weakest looking ten corner punches that you will ever see.
My god, oh my goodness. Sena tried a monkey flip.
Paul landed on his feet booted. Sena Logan came off
the middle rope with a blockbuster and then a delayed
vertical suit plex. He was holding I would say he
was holding Scena up there for a good five or
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six seconds. I mean, he lost some mass over the years,
but Sena is no small man, so he dropped him
on the supplex only for a two count. Logan hit
a leaping European uppercut in the corner, and shockingly, I
was not expecting this. Michael Cole described it as Csorrow like.
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I was like, come again. I was not expecting a
Cesorrow mentioned here on this show, especially in the same
week that Csorrow was main eventing the other show. It
was very Cesorrow like. Seena landed a series of shoulder
tackles and connected with a five knuckle shuffle seen a
lifted Paul Logan, though worked out of it. He went
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to the apron and he followed with his version of
the buckshot lariat for a two count. You know they
were previously they were referring to it as the snapshot lariat,
and there was no mention of that here, so I
don't know if they just forgot that they had given
it a name, or if the name has already been dropped.
I mean everyone's going to call it a buckshot anyway.
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But yeah, there there was no mention of it being
a snapshot lariat anymore. Guess the name didn't stick. Paul
went for his Paul from Grace frog splash. Seena got
the knees up and then he hit an attitude adjustment
for a near fall. Sina went for another one. Logan
countered into an octopus hold and we got an Antonio
ANOCHI mentioned here. Scena countered he sank in an stfu.
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I believe he called it by that name. Paul got
to the ropes, so we got the rope break. Scena
followed up with a tornado DDT that earned him the
near fall. Logan went for the knockout shot, seen him
move though and delivered a shoulder tackle. Logan came back
and caught Seena with a zigzag for a two count.
Paul went for his version of a buck shot again. Sena, though,
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caught him and planted him with a Baron Corbin esque
End of Days and poor Baron Corbin. You know, we
had Michael Cole refer to the upper cut before as
csorrow like, and then when Logan hit the zigzag, they
mentioned dob Ziggler seeing it hits the end of days.
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No mention of end of Days, no mention of Baron Corbin,
poor Bishop Dyer, not even worthy of a mention. Wade
Barrett called it a I think it was like a
variation of a flatliner, only for a near fall. You
talk about protected moves, I mentioned the bro kick a
little while ago. The end of Days is one of
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the most protected moves ever in WWE. I think only
one person, maybe someone after did and I just don't remember.
To my recollection, Drew McIntyre may well be the only
person to ever kick out of an end of Days,
and if somebody kicked out after that, there weren't very
many who did. That was a WrestleMania a few years ago.
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But I remember Corbin mentioning that undertaker, I think is
the one who may have given him that advice, where
protect your finisher, you know, protect your finish and don't
let people just kick out, which is true. I wish
more people would take that advice, but that is that
is still one of the more protected finishing moves that
a wrestler has used ever. In WWE's The End of Days,
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Sina lifted Paul, but Logan worked out of it. Went
to the top rope, where he landed a swanton bomb
and then followed that with a standing moon salt for
a two count. Logan hit another running uppercut. Paul went
for another one, he missed, and Sena slammed him. Logan
came up bleeding from the nose. Then we had boy,
you want to tell that John Cena had his working
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shoes on here he hit An Angel's wings. I thought
he was going for a pedigree at first. He did
the double underhook and he got Logan up and he
held him there and then dropped him face first. So
we had John Cena doing the Christopher Daniels Angels wings.
Sena then ran it Logan. Logan countered into a pop
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up uppercut again cesorrow like, but it didn't quite connect
the way he wanted it to. Yeah, he caught Sena
like in the chest, not really in the face. Logan
pulled the shoulder tackle combo, or pulled off the shoulder
tackle combo that Sena usually does set up for a
five knuckle shuffle. Logan ran the rope Scena, though, popped
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up and grabbed him and delivered an attitude adjustment, which
was only good for an ear fall. Logan kicks out.
Sina hit a standing rana and then a code read
for an ear fall, and for the five thousandth time
in the match, or at least it felt that way,
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John Cena lifted Logan for an attitude adjustment. Logan wiggled
free hit Sena with his knockout punch. It was not enough,
though Scena kicked out. Logan went to the top. He
connected with the pull from Grace quickly hauled ass to
the opposite corner and Seena rolled. He rolled closer to
that corner to accommodate him, and Logan went up. He
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went for a second paul from Grace landed a second one.
Sceena kicked out. At two, Logan connected with a five
knuckle shuffle. He lifted Scena. Sena countered out, and then
he pulled off a styles clash again only four a
near fall. Sina went to the middle rope. He was
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going to try for an avalanche AA. Logan shoved him off,
then hit a crossbody off the top. Scena caught him,
rolled through, got up to his feet. He placed Logan
on his shoulders and hit the attitude adjustment. He quickly
transitioned into another AA attempt. Logan slipped out at this point.
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Now he totally is no selling the attitude adjustment that
he just got. He just got hit with an attitude
adjustment which is supposed to be seen his finish. Sina
went for a second one, right, Logan counters out of it.
You would never know he just got hit with an AA.
He tried, He threw a punch. I think Sena ducked
picked him up. Hit the second AA anyway. Apparently the
second one knocked him loopy, not the first one, and
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Sina covers him and he gets the three count and
John Cena wins. John Cena, as I said earlier, has
now wrapped up the month of August, and in the
month of August, he has capped it off by having
the two best matches he has had all year, thirty
seven minutes against Cody Rhodes at SummerSlam. Great match. Love
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that match, I mean it blew away there WrestleMania match
with a Bazuka here. A few weeks later, he comes
out here with Logan Paul, who does not have the
level of experience that a Cody Rhods does, and he
has a twenty six minute match that wasn't quite the
banger that the Cody Roads match was, but I still
thought it was an excellent match. And again, imagine what
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we could have had. Imagine what we could have had
if the Rock was not obsessed with turning Cody Rhodes
heel and Triple H came up with the idea to
turn John Cena heel instead, to get the Rock to
calm down about Cody Rhads going heel, perhaps we would
not have ended up in this situation. Better late than never.
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An excellent match with scene A playing his greatest hits.
What he was doing here was incorporating even the moves
that he himself was not necessarily doing. But clearly they
were incorporating moves from some of his past rivals like
Cesaro and Dov Ziggler and aj styles. Right, they were
sprinkled through. I don't know where that fucking angels wings
came from, but clearly they were sprinkling in some moves
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from his past and pass matches that he had, and
he had his working shoes on. Here he went from
five moves of doom to a solid nine here in
this match. It was quite something to see. It was
also a trademark John Cena match. You have countless attitude
adjustments or attitude adjustment attempts and kickouts. It's been a
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staple of his matches now, going back over a decade,
going back at least to the Rock matches. That's how
far back that goes. So that's just been a staple.
And you know, the spot calling and stuff, and if
you watch for it, it's all right there. You know.
That's always been a staple of these John Cena matches.
It doesn't take away from the quality though of this one.
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Here Crab was hot for most of it. They would
randomly break out into song and dance and they were
going nuts for a lot of the near falls, and
there were a lot of them here. But the atmosphere
really did help play a role in this match. Logan, Look,
Logan more than held out his end of the bargain. Logan,
Paul is very good. Logan, Paul is very athletic. There's
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things he can do in these matches that John Cena
simply cannot do. There's things that he can do in
these matches that John Cena couldn't do ten or fifteen
years ago, so he's very good at that. But you know,
he was where he needed to be for some of
the key spots. There were really no moments that stand
out to me on his part where he screwed something
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up or brought the match down in some way. You know,
he worked with Cina and I thought the two of
them worked very well together. Now, when the match was over,
Sina went over to the young fan from Brussels. He's
been on all these shows, the young fan, the kid
from Brussels back in March when he keeled on that
kid in the crowd in his first heel promo. That
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kid was on SmackDown on Friday in Leon in Leon, France,
and Sina went over to him. I talked about this
in my SmackDown review. The kid had his face buried
in his phone. Sena is right in front of him,
He's got his arm around him. Sina is staring him
in the face, and this kid is probably just frantically like,
oh I got to get to the camera. App like, dude,
look up, John Cena is right here. You're on live TV, bro.
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So they had that moment because Sina went into the
crowd to prove to Logan Paul that you know, we
all have a bad day, and he wanted to go
over to the kid and personally apologize to him and
give him a hug. So that kid was back again
on this show, and Sina knew exactly where he was.
He was right there in the front row, and Sina
went over to him, and again this time, the kid
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had no phote in his hand. The kid was enjoying
the moment, looking right into the camera, and it was
a nice moment. But again, I sit here and I
wonder who is this kid related to? Which employee that
works for WWE? Is this kid? Is this kid related
to I must know Holy planted fan, I must know
the answer to this question. But good for him. And
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then he went over Sena did and he kissed his
wife Shay. He went over and hugged Jelly Roll and
post Malone, and then he got back into the ring
one final time to celebrate. So it was a nice
moment there at the end. I'm glad he won. I
was a little worried they might give it to low
just because I don't really want to see scene and
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just lose and put everybody over for the rest of
this run. When you put everybody over, you get nobody over.
So he should lose his final I do think he
should lose his final match. I mean, we'll see who
they put him in the ring with in that final match,
but I think he after losing the title, you know,
get back to his winning ways for a little bit. Obviously,
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he's going to be wrestling Brock at Wrestle Palooza, and
I don't know if Brock is just back for the
Sena match this year and they're going to hold off
for his next program and we don't see him again
until next year, or if he's back as full time
as Brock can be. If Brock is back, we still
don't know. Brock was not on this show. Brock was
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never rumored for this show. There was a rumor online
about Brock being spotted in Paris. That was bullshit. That
was a photo from Canada. Recently, Brock Lesnar is not
scheduled to be back on SmackDown until September twelfth. September twelfth,
they're going to be in Norfolk, Virginia, so we have
one smack Down between now and then. That's the one
this coming Friday, I would imagine that's when Nick all
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this will make the announcement. Do not expect to see
Brock back on TV until September twelfth. He is scheduled
for September twelfth, September nineteenth, and that would then lead
into September twentieth, which is Russell Palooza. So we'll have
to wait and see exactly what the explanation is of
Brock being back when and if we get to hear
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from him. I thought we were going to get an
explanation for why he attacked Cody Rhodes when he feuded
with Cody, and we never got one, So I'm not
going to assume that we're going to get anything. It
may just be that Brock shows up and gives a
couple of f fives and that's about it. But it
sure would be nice to get some sort of explanation
for why now, but don't expect to see him for
a couple more weeks. Jackie Redmond was shown outside Seth
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rollins locker room. Rollins walked out and Redmond brought up
the fact that Rollins is without his crew, and Seth said,
it's always two s. It's always got Bremode. Hey, at
least it wasn't Brie Bella with the big reveal at
the end of the show. How fucking awful would that
have been? That would have been terrible. Besseth said he's
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always two steps ahead. The world thinks that he's at
a disadvantage tonight, but he asked Jackie if she remembered
who won the main event a WrestleMania. Rolin said that
he's never needed anybody and he is a multi time
world champion. He's the greatest in ring performer in the
history of the industry, he said. Rollin said he will
remind the world why he is a visionary, said that
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if he can't keep the title by himself, then he
does not deserve to be the champion. And Michael Cole
back at ringside, reminded everybody that Paul Hayman and Roman
Reigns are both in the hospital. Bron Breaker and Bronson
Reed are barred from the building. They're not going to
be part of this match. And this match was the
main event. It was the four weight match for the
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World Heavyweight Championship with Seth Rollins defending against Cmpunk, against
La Knight and against Jay Usso. And you know for
all of the awful shit that we saw in those
videos today about fans swarming Ria Ripley and Amos and
all that, on a happier note, just show that not
all fans are dicks. There was a video yesterday that
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I saw of l A. Knight in a playground I
guess somewhere in France in Paris, playing a game of
pickup basketball with some fans. He was just having a
basketball game. Now, imagine if you would have gotten injured
during that game, that would have been terrible. But no,
he was just hanging out with some fans and playing basketball.
I was like, Okay, that's cool. See that's a cool moment.
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We need more shit like that. So anyway, it was
La Knight coming out after Jay Usso who came out
first through the crowd. Then it was Punk and then
the champion entered last. All four men, they were sizing
each other up. Punk kicked j out of the ring
as payback from what happened on Raw. Rollin's bailed out
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of the ring. He left Night in Punk alone. Night
got the better of their exchange. Rollin they'll slip back
in to take advantage Jay and Knight. They took turns
punching Rollins. Also, the fans can go back and forth
and chant yeat and yeah or is it yeah and yeats?
I don't know whichever order you want to put them in.
Rollins found himself surrounded by the babyfaces, so they all
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put the boots to him. Of course, Punk and Knight
they couldn't get along because each man wanted to get
their hands on seth Rollins. Jay talked them into working together,
so they all took turns hitting spots on Rollins, Jay
and Punk. They decided to yeat Night though, thought they
should focus and get a table, so Punk gave Jay
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a shove and told him to get the tables. Doing
his best Bubba Ray Dudley impression. Jay did help Punk
get a table before then superkicking him. Jay also superkick
Knight before going after Rollins in the crowd. They all
wound up back in the ring, traded spots until Rollin's
hit Punk with a pedigree, Rollin hit Night with a
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buckle bomb for two, Jay with a frog splash for
another near fall. Then it was Night's time to shine
and he hit moves on all three men. It was
Punk's turn next, He got to do a tower of
doom Spot. He brought down La Night and Jay Usso
off the top. Moments later, Night spotted Punk on the apron,
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and Punk I think he was looking. I don't know
if he was looking down at somebody on the ground
or looking into the crowd, but he's on the apron
and he's got his back turned and he just can't
help himself. So Night rushes over and he knocks them.
Punk off the apron and Punk is a slim gym
table on the outside. Punk falls off the apron. He
lands on the slim gym table, but he bounces off
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of it. The table breaks. I don't know what these
fucking tables are made of. Whatever it is, it's the
exact opposite of these new announced desks. So the table
broke right down the middle, but again it was more
like Punk kind of bounced off of it and then
he landed on the floor, basically the same thing Punk
had done to La Knight on Raw and Knight shrugged
it off, shrugged his shoulders just like Punk did to him.
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Hit rollins with a bft, Jay broke up the cover.
Knight repeatedly bound Jay's head off the announced table before
doing the same to Seth Rollins. Knight then placed Rollins
on top of the French announced desk, and he looks
up like he's Logan Paul. He's gonna go to the
top row, and he's significantly older than Logan Paul, but
damn it, he's going up top. So he climbs up
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to the top row and Jay usso briefly gets up
on the apron to try to stop him. Knight kicks
him away, but that momentary distraction gives Seth Rollins all
the time he needs to roll off the desk just
as La Knight comes flying off with this diving elbow drop,
and he took a wicked bump through the announced desk.
It was a rough bump, it was It was honestly
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the biggest bump of the entire match. And La Knight
just crashed and burned through that announced table and that
was pretty much it for La Knight in this match.
He did not have another offensive for the rest of
this match. Jay went for a spear on Seth, but
as he flew in, Rollins kind of jumped up and
grabbed him in a pedigree position and dropped him with
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a pedigree covered him. Jay kicked out. Jay managed to
make a comeback. He hit an USO splash. Punk though
broke up the cover with an elbow drop. Punk hit
Jay with the GTS as he covered Jay usso though
here comes seth. He flies in with a stomp and
he stomps on Punk's head, goes for the pin, only
gets a near fall out of it. Rollins begins screaming
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at Punk about I hate you, I hate your family.
Rollins then hit curb stumps to Jay. He went over
to where La Knight was laying in the rubble of
the table on all fours, hit a stomp on him.
Not that he was getting back into the match anyway,
but now you knew he was done for the night,
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so that was it for La Night. Back inside, Rollins
places Punk's head in between a chair and he goes
for a stomp. Punk, though avoids it, and he manages
to hit a GTS and Rollins falls backwards into the ropes,
bounces off the ropes right back onto Punk's shoulders and
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Punk is gonna set up for one more go to sleep,
and he's taking his time, and the camera is kind
of tight on CM Punk and I'm thinking, okay, there
might well be a new member there might be a
fourth member of the vision here coming out? Who's it
going to be? Who from NXTA, Maybe Who's it going
to be? Who's coming out here? And Punk is standing
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there and he's looking straight ahead and he's talking shit,
and I'm like, just do the fucking move, bro, But
then you see somebody roll into the ring cloaked in
all black, like an all black hoodie with a hood
can't really see who it is, and this person delivers
a low blow to see him Punk, and then they
reveal themselves to be Becky Lynch. Rollins then stumps Punk's
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head onto the chair and he pins him to retain
the World Heavyweight Championship twenty five minutes into this. Maybe
was actually just shy of the length of the John
Cena Logan Paul match. Rollins and Becky then kiss and
they celebrate their victory as the show goes off the air. Well,
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at least La Knight did not take the losing fall.
I thought Knight was going to take the losing fall.
Other people thought that Jay Usso was going to take
the losing fall. I didn't think it would be Punk,
just because Punk already got pinned at SummerSlam this month.
But they went with Cem Punk, so at least La
Knight got spare. He lost on Raw Monday Night. It
would have been fucking terrible if he would have come
out here and got pinned again. I didn't expect him
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to win the championship, but at least don't let the
guy take the losing fall again. Punk takes another l
from Seth Rawlins, which at this point it just feels
inevitable that he's going to be the one to beat
Rollins for the world champion. It just feels that way, right,
And maybe it doesn't have to be Rawlins, but it
is inevitable at this point that this man is going
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to have to get his payoff from all of these
screw jobs and all of these losses. It probably will
come at WrestleMania. The match itself, some people might have
this as their match of the show or one of
the best matches in the show. The match was okay.
I was not a big fan of it. It didn't
do anything for me, I'm sorry, especially for like a
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big pl main event. The crowd was quiet for large
portions of it, too, so there were definitely parts of
this match that the crowd sounded kind of kind of
bored by and it being the main event. That's not
obviously a great thing. It just never felt like it
got out of first gear for most of it. It
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really should have been just Rollins against Punk if we're
being honest here, especially at Punk was going to be
the one to take the losing fall anyway, That's what
it should have been. Should have just gone ahead and
just done Seth Rollins against CM Punk and been done
with it, but they felt compelled to throw the other
two guys into it. I like the pairing of Becky
and Seth on TV. Obviously they make a good pair
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off TV. The last time we saw them as an
on screen pairing, it was an absolute disaster and it
actually turned a lot of fans against them. The way
that Vince did it as baby Faces, it was so forced,
it was so corny. It just didn't work. This is different,
you know. Now they're heels. And I think that Becky,
if she were to become a regular part of this faction.
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And when I say regular, I mean just a regular
member going forward, you know, as long as the vision
is a thing, she should be part of the group.
I like that idea. I would be okay with that
I think I would add Becky Lynch as a permanent
member of this group. Whether she stays a permanent member
or not remains to be seen. But one thing is
very clear. When Punk came out to the ring, it
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was audible, you know. He mentioned April, and he mentioned
Larry Right doing this for you and bringing the gold home.
And then towards the end of the match, when Seth
was just completely frustrated and just he stomped him and
Punk kicked out and he couldn't beat this guy, he
starts going off about I hate you and I hate
your family, and then the very next thing we see
is Seth's family, his wife come out to save the day,
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and Punk ends up getting screwed yet again, as he
was at WrestleMania, as he was at summerslim fucked over
again by Seth Rawlins And without telling you, they basically
want you to believe that this is going to pave
the way for the return of aj Lee, because how
could it not. How could any rational person watching this
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not think, hey, maybe this means that aj Lee is
coming back. So if ever, there was a time where
it felt like, holy shit, this might really happen, because
aj Lee has a lot of fans out there who
have been dying to see her come back to WWE
for a very long time. So it may not mean
something to you, or it might. But even if it
doesn't mean something to you, if she was to come back,
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if they hit her music and she was to come back,
that would be a big fucking deal. And I don't
think that they would tease it this much and do
something that would make it so obvious in people's heads
that hey, we might actually get this without actually doing it,
because that would that would just be mean. Okay, that
would just be a mean thing to do. And it's
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one thing if AJ just doesn't want to come back.
Up to this point, she hasn't wanted to come back,
or else she would have been back by now, we
would have seen her in the Royal Rumble one of
these years. But to do it in the way they
did it, it seems pretty obvious to me that there's
a very good chance we're going to get her back.
And then you could do a mixed tag match, you know,
you could do Seth and Becky against Punk and AJ.
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You know, I don't know, I don't know when I mean,
they got a ple coming up in a few weeks,
you know, Wrestle Palusa, because I was thinking about this,
like Seth is gonna win here, who does he defend against? Next?
Do you just you stick with Punk? How long are
you gonna do this for? I would get away from
it for a while and then circle back around to
it if that's the plan, Let's say for the Rumble
(01:26:05):
or for WrestleMania. You can't just do Seth in Punk
every fucking month for the rest of the year. So
if not Punk, and they've already done jay Us, so
they've already done l a Night, Well, then who else? Right?
Aj Styles is fighting for the Intercontinental title, He's challenging
Dom tomorrow for the championship, so it's not gonna be him.
(01:26:26):
There's no other obvious person, you know, Gunther's still out
gun there's a heel anyway, but Gunther's out right. He
had that nasal injury or whatever it was. So it's
just it's not obvious to me who that next you
know person is gonna be anyway, So like, what match
do you do with Seth? Well, maybe he doesn't defend
the championship at all. Maybe that's how we get a
(01:26:47):
tag team match. It would make sense, and it would
be a very big attraction that they could put up, because, look,
they're going to load up that first ESPN show. It's
not just Brock and seeing it. They're gonna want to
come up with as many attractions as they can. Shock
me if we find out I'm Raw tomorrow night that
we're not gonna get a new women's champion crowned until
September twenty. They may put it off until then for
all we know. So they're gonna want to load that
(01:27:10):
first ESPN show up as much as possible. Are we
looking at a brock lesnar return and an aj Lee
return on the same show? Very possible. But I like
the Parry, I like the pairing, and look, Paul Hayman
if he's in the hospital. I don't think having Becky
is as one of the de facto mouthpieces of this
(01:27:31):
new group is a bad idea. I know she got
herself in some trouble on Monday with the Ozzy Osbourne comments.
I mean I wasn't offended by it. I didn't really
see what the big deal was. I by and large
liked the work you know that Becky has done since
she's come back, so I'm in favor of aating her
to the group and we'll see what happens as far
(01:27:54):
as the aj Lee stuff is concerned. But for me,
this was a two match show, not the main event.
On seeing a Logan Paul, Seamus and Russev. Those are
the two best matches on the show. Everything else to
me pretty average stuff. The Peacock era of PLS ends
with a pretty solid thumbs in the middle effort. If
(01:28:16):
I had to classify it one way or the other,
for me, it would be somewhere in the middle. Let's
take a look at the Twitter pole though, see what
you guys think. Report card style, ABC and D. What
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five percent give it an A grade, forty four percent
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and twelve percent give it a D. That is with
seventeen hundred votes in count. Now we have a poll
in the YouTube chat. This is a thumbs up, thumbs
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important safety information. It's tough, though, it really is, like
whether he defends at wrestled Palooza or Crown Jewel. Who
is it against Roman's gone for a while. Who does
he defend that championship again? Who is the next obvious
name in line for seth rawlins, assuming it's not Punk,
(01:31:35):
I don't know. I don't know who that name is.
Let's go through your super chats here. I see we're
eight out of fifteen on the bonus goal in the chat.
(01:31:58):
Oh Man Clash in Paris coming to the end very quickly.
Of these international shows. We have a two pm start
time Eastern for RAW tomorrow. Just be aware of that.
I'll be live at eight just like I was tonight
eight pm Eastern for the Raw review. But after that
we're back to normal. They're back on US soil, so
(01:32:19):
it'll be back to normal. As far as the scheduling
of these shows, it was both of them too, was
WWE and AW. They went international around the same time.
First one that came in first few super chats from
our friend Dried Chicken Without Flavor says he was watching
AW Collision over Clash in Paris today, says, by the way,
(01:32:42):
FTR wanted all of the smoke with the Philly crowd,
old school heel heat Becky Lynch tells everyone you're here,
There's nothing I fear, and I know that my heart
will go on the vision, and Paul Hayman joins in
and also tells everyone one will stay forever this way,
safe in our heart. A little Selene Dion, I see,
(01:33:05):
really a little Celeine Dion for Terrible dry Chicken. Did
Night Punk and Jay beat up Rawlins? He asked before
the main event even went on. They did, but not enough, apparently,
because they were still unable to win completely inept they
went after each other too much, and they softened each
(01:33:27):
other up just enough for seth Rawlins to pull out
the win. Never learned their lesson. Holliday won ninety seven,
says Hey Solo, hope they give Balor another world title
run in the next year or so. It's crazy that
he never held the gold since his one day reign
in twenty sixteen. People would say the same thing about
Kevin Owens. The only reason Kevin Owens even had that
(01:33:52):
run was because Balor got hurt. Do I think Balor's
getting the world title run in the next year. I
don't Dry Chicken says, uh boy, he's just singing to himself.
Becky Lynch told Seth Rollins, because I'm your lady and
you are my man, whenever you reach for me, I'm
(01:34:13):
gonna do all that I can. You need to come
up with some questions, brother, That's what you need to do.
Robbie h La Night is the second winningest superstar in
twenty twenty five. Hard to believe the way he is booked.
Is that a real stat he's the winningest superstar in
twenty twenty five? He has nothing to show for it.
(01:34:42):
Seth officially has his Stephanie McMahon Helmsley. They're gonna call
it the man's vision. I bet the man's vision. I
don't know. I mean again, I don't Whatever they call it,
they can call it. But I like the pairing. I
like adding heard to the faction full time. I'm for it.
(01:35:09):
I'm okay with it. Dry Chickens says, what do Puff
Daddy and Peppy Lapew have in common? Can't stop? Won't stop?
Pick one French fries, French toast or French kiss French fries,
Fuck everything else. Magnificent Matt says, have you seen any
(01:35:30):
of these great HBO shows Six Feet Under, Entourage or
Eastbound and Down. I've seen episodes of six Feet Under.
I never watched the entire series. The other two I
have not watched, although I will say I have not
seen Game of Thrones. I have not seen that one.
Venom Kitetsu Americano against Tonga Loa for the twenty four
(01:35:53):
to seven titles should main event WrestleMania would put butts
in seats and really move the needle well, more like
sticking the needle in the arm is more like it.
Arabian Night. WWE is going to continue this never ending
punkin Rollins feud until the Royal rumble. You say the
(01:36:14):
Royal rumble, I say probably WrestleMania. Also, five months in
and seven plees, Alistair Black still has not been on one.
Has his return been a bust so far? Yes it has.
I don't think that they're trying to bury him. I
think that they probably will push him soon to something
(01:36:36):
a little bit more. But so far, yes, it's been
a bust. Bender mc simpson, whoever created the logo for
this pay per view, should be fired. How do you
not have the Eiffel Tower as either the L or
the A in Clash in Paris, they should have had
you as the designer. I didn't like the I didn't
(01:36:58):
like the overall artwork for this show to be in with.
I know what they were going for, but I think
it's some of the weakest they've had all year. Honestly,
I don't know. I just don't find it to be
visually appealing. Corey Blake with the ten dollars, super chat, Hey,
Solom monster, awesome job as always. We all know montees
(01:37:20):
Ford has top singles written over him, but I think
monster heel version of Dawkins can work as well. What
are your thoughts? I think that out of a monster heel,
I think heal version of Dawkins can work. That's he's
not a top heel. He's not a top heel. But
I think a heel version of Angelo Dawkins could work. Yes,
I do. We've got Prince Vegeta. They should have had
(01:37:49):
Shamus win that match. Russev barely gets a reaction. His
return has been a flop. Him and Alistair Black both.
I hope Seamus wins the IC title. Don't know if
the h Man do it. The h man will do it.
I think they're well aware of the fact that that's
something that needs to happen at some point, but they're
just gonna take their time with it. I mean, that
could be a WrestleMania moment. I don't see it happening soon,
(01:38:14):
but it could be a WrestleMania forty two, WrestleMania forty
three moment. It'll happen. I have faith it'll happen. I mean,
that story is just such a slam dunk, such a layup.
Bender says Logan gave Seena his best match in years.
(01:38:35):
It should have been five to ten minutes shorter. I
hate that they didn't mention Seena hitting the end of days. Yeah,
I mean, I enjoyed the match with Cody More. I
thought that was the better match, but it was still excellent,
still a great match. Jeremy Rose in my voice, thank
(01:39:02):
god Nicky didn't win. Thank god Nicky did not win.
Bender Mick Simpson also, let's go Phillies. Yes, let's go
into the wood Chipper. I agree. Jeremy Roe says, Nicky
(01:39:23):
thinks she's the Hogan of women's wrestling in terms of
popularizing it. Trailblazing or whatever term they like to use.
But she has no impact then or now and needs
to go away. Please. So Jeremy is no fan of
Nicky Bella? What about Bree You're a fan of Brie Bella.
You're a fan of Bree Cheese, Michael Games, Wrestle Palooza
(01:39:46):
or Survivor series, Seth and Becky against punkin a j book,
It guaranteed feels like it feels like it. But I
think they're gonna want to load up that first ESPN
show as much as possible. That would be one way
to do it. Do you want to have attractions on
that show? I mean seeing a brock is already an attraction,
you know, for some not for everybody. That would certainly
(01:40:11):
be one that you could add to the lineup. Alexander
with the nine to ninety nine, you would think all
the shit that Roxanne went through with her stalker, the
wwe would have had the girls surrounded by security. Wwe
should be held responsible if something bad happens. I just
think they need to, you know, look very closely what's
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been going on, and at least for certain people, take
the necessary measures to protect them when they're on the
rug for a company that is making money hand over
fucking fist in the way that they are making more
money now than they've ever made before. They can afford it,
Boomerang with all that TKO money, there's no excuse giving
(01:40:55):
their star. There you go, giving their star security detail
everywhere from the airports to walking the stre like these
big time musicians get. You'll never see this with Beyonce, yeah,
or Taylor Swift. They mentioned her tonight too. They mentioned
the fact that they topped the gate record in that building.
(01:41:15):
They topped Taylor Swift last year, and everybody cheered, yay,
we did that, little baby fire pan to thirty five
months of membership. There is a cover of Brave's theme
Live in Fear by Suplex Sound. Give it a listen.
It's very, very good. I can't believe it's been two
(01:41:35):
years since Bray died. It has been too It doesn't
feel like two years, does it, But it has been
two years. It's crazy, Alexander. On top of everything, Rhea
admitted on Chris van Vliet that she has anxiety with
large crowds surrounding her not too long ago, and then
this video happens. Yeah, I mean they're just they're tempting
(01:42:00):
by not taking some sort of action. Rhea is truly
one of the biggest stars in the entire company. I mean,
there's no reason that there should not be some security
detail with her at all times when she's just sort
of out and about like that. Jack Davis almost four
hours for six matches. Thank god they don't do ten
(01:42:22):
to twelve like aw, yeah, thank god for that. GMB.
What fascinates you about a tes Bianca heel pairing. I
just think they both have a really good heel run
in them, and putting them together as sort of this
(01:42:42):
heel power couple I think could work. I mean I've
been saying that for years. It's not like a new thing.
I've said this before. I just think it could really
I think it could work. I think they would play
off each other very well, and I think it could work.
And if they do it and it doesn't, I'll be
the first to admit that I was wrong. But I
(01:43:04):
think it could work. Uh. Nash DTV. After last week's
Sound of I checked out your Michael Jackson rant. Now
you're going back in the vault. Huh you're going back
aways with that one? You're Michael Jackson rant avoided for
years as a big MJ fan. I don't agree with
(01:43:25):
all points, but I found it quite fair. Yeah, I
mean you found it quite fair because it's less of
a might it's not. Really. It's kind of wrong, frankly
for people to call it a Michael Jackson rant. It's
less of Michael Jackson rant and more rant about the
media coverage and the media circus around his death. That's
really what it was about. Everyone said, oh, it's Michael
(01:43:46):
Jackson rant. It's really not. You actually listen to it.
The real cso too. To me, it's crazy. They haven't
named Logan's buckshot lariat the pall shot lariat. It's right there,
the pall Shot. I'm sorry, brother, that's a terrible name. Sorry,
(01:44:09):
Libido Bell, thank you for the twenty five. I was
gifted a crochet squid from a beautiful coworker with a
pink afro. She made it herself, spent five hours on it.
Showed my gratitude. Didn't secure the digits. I hope I
didn't fumble. I loved this squid. Maybe she's playing a
(01:44:33):
game with you. Maybe she's playing a squid game. Very possible.
I'm just saying bass Bear as Seamus gave Russev ten beats,
his back was all beat was beat red. He posted
a picture online of the aftermath. He was all bruised
(01:44:57):
up right Chicken coming in with another super chat here.
If aj Lee declines the return wwe will be pretty
tempted to get Nicky Bella involved in the Punk Rollins feud.
Since Becky Lynch is involved, that is a terrible idea
that I hope you did not just will into existence. Man.
(01:45:24):
That's you know, that is very possible, and that would
be awful. That would be awful. We need to be
done with the Becky Lynch and the Nicky Bella stuff.
You want to get one stipulation match out of it
on TV, be my guest, and then that needs to
be the end of it. Bass Beer is god of seduction.
Who wins in a shoot? Rajah Jackson or Psycho Sid.
(01:45:51):
Psycho Sid Sid has his squeegee, so I think he'll
be okay. Hoffman Entertainment Happy thirty third anniversary too. I'm fooked, Brett,
I'm fuked. Yes. Summerslim In nineteen ninety two, Wembley Stadium,
Bass Bears, Saint Matt Clark welcome to the channel. Got
(01:46:13):
a bunch of new subs to welcome bass Bears, says
Slim Bronson. Reed. Yeah, ever since he came back, he's
noticeably slim down. Good for him. It's it's gonna be
better for that ankle. You know. He has said the
ankle is never going to be one hundred percent again.
He will never have full mobility in the ankle that
he broke, and he says he's in pain every day,
(01:46:35):
but when he's out there in the ring, he kind
of forgets about it, gets in the mindset, he gets
in the zone and it hasn't affected his performance in ring.
But yeah, that ankle that he broke coming off the
top of the cage and wargames, it'll it'll never be
the same again. Prince Vegeta, with twenty two months of membership, says,
(01:46:56):
apparently there has been no world champions in WWE born
in the ninety Ever, what do you think will be
the first one? Not saying bron Breaker, Well I was
gonna say bron Breakers, So there you go. You can't
say not bron breaker. You can't take away answers the
answer is bron Breaker. Well, I don't even know what
half these people were even born, like Roxanne Perez. Okay,
(01:47:20):
when was Roxanne Perez born? Was she born in the
early two thousands or was she born She probably born
in the early two thousands, right, Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, man, Libido Bell. What's Jesse Sailor Moonstar
doing in the Impact Zone? I have no idea who
(01:47:44):
that is, or rather, I have no idea who that's
In reference to Venom Cantetsu canker, Oh my goodness, she's
back again. More Bella's more bellas Venom Kitetsu says he
has a canker sore on his left hansole, send help
(01:48:06):
and silver nitrate. I got a pair of scissors here,
I can. I can cut it out for you if
you want Mystic j forty four fans want her back,
wrestlers want her back, even her husband wants her back.
It feels like the only person that doesn't want AJ
back is AJ herself. Well, unfortunately for all the people
(01:48:28):
who want her back, that's the only person whose opinion
matters here. And if she doesn't want to come back,
she ain't coming back. Frankly, I could see her looking
at videos like Rhea Ripley being swarm by loser fans
outside and saying I don't want to come back to that.
Although I don't think Punk would allow that to happen.
I think Punk would would shield her from all the weirdos.
(01:48:48):
I think she'd be okay, uh, thank you, mystic Jay
bass Beera says, remember the fans who went after Seth
and Brett? Yes? I do. I remember that that fucking
idiot who attacked Brett Hart at the Hall of Fame.
I was actually sitting in Madison Square Garden watching the
fucking g One Supercard with New Japan and Ring of Honor,
(01:49:09):
and I'm looking on my phone. I'm like, Brett Hart attacked.
I felt like I was attacked. I was like, oh
my god, what do I need to do here? Who
do I need to go after? Brian Mahoney got a
name for Seth and Becky if she's in the Seth Riders.
I will never not call this faction that tragically unfashionable
(01:49:30):
or tragically fashionable, or tragically unfashionable. I think that works too.
Alex with the twenty five Brother solo Jericho. If Jericho
does come back, would you be interested in a feud
with Punk again? I thoroughly enjoyed their twenty twelve feud,
which became super personal. But did you think they're maybe
(01:49:51):
a twenty eight match under delivered? Yeah, I mean it's
not a favorite of mine. I think it was just
overshadowed by the main event and by the end of
an Ara hell in a Cell match, if I remember correctly,
I think they had a rematch at the next show
that was better. Same with Brian and Seamus. They had
(01:50:13):
that two out of three falls match that was obviously
much better than their twenty eight second eighteen second match.
Punk and Jericho again. You know, look, I think the
promos could potentially be interesting, but all the really interesting
stuff would just be, you know, stuff that they probably
wouldn't be allowed to say in reference to stuff that
(01:50:36):
happened in some other companies. So no, I'm not clamoring
for it. I'm really not at this point. I feel
like Jericho needs to be in the ring with somebody
who can assist in making him look as good as
he possibly can. I don't think Punk is that person.
(01:50:57):
Lavelle Gilliard well AJ returned be a one off or
one final run. We don't even know if she's coming
back for sure, but if she is, I imagine it's
probably for the purposes of this storyline, and you know,
beyond that, she might be in the Rumble. Do I
think it's like a full time run if she's back. No,
(01:51:17):
I don't think it's I don't think it's any kind
of like consistent run. But you know, it's like once
you make that first appearance, others will follow. So I
could see her being in the rumble, maybe having a
WrestleMania match. Dry Chicken says Obafemi. Deith Thrones seth rawlins Now.
(01:51:44):
I talked about Oba on the podcast and what I
would do with him. I would not rush him into
a World Championship. I think that's a mistake. I told
you what you need to do with Obafemi. Cameo. Johnson
with the four ninety nine says, is there ways the
(01:52:06):
WWE can better use all of their talent that they
have on hand. It's plenty that don't have anything going
on and are just never used. Yeah, it's called the
creative team doing a better job of rotating talent in
and out and coming up with ideas for the talent
that aren't doing anything. That's the easiest answer to your question.
(01:52:27):
The answer is yes, but that's on the creative team
and bass Veras says, Undertaker beat Triple h at WrestleMania
each time with a different finisher. Well their first match.
Their first match at WrestleMania seventeen, he used a last
(01:52:47):
Ride power bomb. Their second match at twenty seven, he
beat him with Hell's Gate. At twenty eight, he beat
him with a tombstone. So yes, all three of Undertaker's
finishers and he beat Triple Lights with each one of them.
That is true. We are currently sitting at five hundred
(01:53:13):
and sixty nine likes, nine out of fifteen on the
bonus goals, so we're only going to do the one round.
But we didn't do Be the Booker the other day
because I went early for SmackDown. It was an Express review,
it was in and out. But at least we're going
to get the one round in here. So let's go
ahead and be the Booker Paris edition. Ladies and gentlemen,
(01:53:34):
it is now time to be the Booker Clash in
Paris edition of Be the Booker, No Stipulations. I don't
know why that's open no stipulations tonight. That's only for
the bonus rounds. All right, feel like we haven't done
(01:53:57):
this in several days. Look at this. Robert needs his fix.
He needs his fix. He's got that vein. It's open.
He wants that be The booker injected, let's do it.
Choose two single stars to form a makeshift team. So
we're gonna have to make a fake team here. We
(01:54:19):
need real teams. We gotta make a makeshift team. Okay,
and that's what we have to do because that's what
the stipulations. And here I just said, we're not gonna
have stipulations. The first thing we land on is a stipulation. Okay.
Team number one member number one Eddie Guerrero, Latino Heat
(01:54:44):
and teaming with Eddie Guerrero will be Hook. Hook and
Eddie Guerrero are officially a tag team as an interesting team.
Quite know what to make of that team? That could work.
Just don't come out to Hook's new shitty music. Please
(01:55:06):
come out to Eddie's music. Please. Eddie Garrero and Hook
are going to take on the Nasty Boys. You know what.
I Am going to pick a stipulation for this. I
feel like this match needs a stipulation. I don't know,
I just feel that way. It's going to be a
going to be a molotov cocktail match. I'd pay money
(01:55:32):
to see that. Eddie Garrero and the Dudley and the
Nasty Boys and a Molotov cocktail match. That is a
real stipulation, by the way, from everyone's favorite game, AW,
Fight Forever. Is there anybody in the lobby like actually
playing Fight Forever anymore? I wonder how many people are
actually left playing the game? Is it in the double
(01:55:56):
digits or is it in single digits. We begin with Lana,
Happy Lana Day, everybody. I know what I'm pushing Lana
against the former Impact Knockouts champion Mickey James, and I
(01:56:17):
do love me some Mickey James, but this match was
doomed from the start. Sorry Mickey. Good old hardcore country.
All right, our main event of the evening, this is
how we end beat The booker Ed says, there are
(01:56:43):
six people playing Fight Forever on Steam right now. Six people,
So we have how many more people do we have?
We have about twelve hundred plus more than AW has
on Steam playing the game. All right, So here we go.
(01:57:04):
It is main event time. We have the Undertaker, Purple
Glove Undertaker. You gotta specify the time period of the
Undertaker that you're talking about. You have Great Glove Undertaker,
you have Purple Glove Undertaker, you have Ministry Undertaker, you
have American badass Undertaker, you have Big evil Undertaker, and
(01:57:27):
you had some hybrid mix of the two, you get
the fake Undertaker. The Undertaker against Yoko Zuna. It's a
(01:57:48):
guilty pleasure of mine. The Undertaker Yoko zu inafeud and
their matches are a guilty pleasure of mine. Now, funny enough,
Undertaker and yoko Zuna actually had two casket matches, and
I'm gonna go and do some stipulations here and see
if we might actually be able to land on casket
match Undertaker and Yoko Zuna in a lumberjack match. All right,
(01:58:16):
I'll still give it the bell, although lumberjack match is
not one of my favorite stipulations. Honestly, that second casket
match kind of turned into a lumberjack match if all
the lumberjacks were on yoko Zuna side, had about ten
different guys out there stuffing them inside that casket. But anyway,
(01:58:37):
there you go. There's your b the booker. Everybody bass beers,
says Mohawk, Undertaker. Oh yeah, that's right. That's among the
worst periods of the Undertaker was Mohawk Taker. Now we
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have LFG Undertaker. Now we have Undertaker backstage assisting at
Triplemania Undertaker. We have Lucha Taker. That's his latest incarnation.
Chuck Norris was there. Yeah, Chuck Norris was there. That
was the second casket match Survivor Series ninety four. He
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kicked Jeff Jarrett right in the face. Jeff Jarrett took
a bump for Chuck Norris. Yeah. If people wanted to
see an Undertaker and Sting match, maybe they got What
if they would have gotten Undertaker against against Vato's sting?
Would people have wanted to see Vatos sting against the Undertaker?
Bass Bevers says, could the Lumberjacks get Yoko in the ring?
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Get him in the ring? Yeah, well, yeah, that's a
that's a tough question. I don't know. If he ends
up outside. The whole point of the Lumberjacks is to
throw people right back in the ring. They might not
be able to get him back in the ring. May's
the great Channel member for forty nine months solo. You
being a Mets fan, I'm sure you've heard get Mets
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marized and it's cring cringly charming and sound like somebody
came up with that on drugs. Yeah, I think I
heard it once and that's I don't have to hear
it ever again. I'm more a fan of the old
school Mets song from the eighties. That's more my jam.
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The less said about the Mets right now, the Better
just lost most of their games to the fucking Marlins.
They scored nineteen runs in one game and they couldn't
score hardly anything for the rest of the series. It's
like their entire quota of runs they wasted in one game,
so they had nothing left after that, they had nothing left.
It's just awful, but at least they'll get a wild
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card spot. What was Yoko's heaviest weight while wrestling while
he was active. I think he was active right until
the very end, so I mean, the heaviest that I
heard of him being was about eight oh four. So
if he wasn't eight hundred, he was definitely somewhere in
that seven hundred range. But a lot of state athletic commissions,
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like in New York just wouldn't allow him to wrestle
because how could you he was such a liability. I mean,
his weight was just out of control. And again, the
heart can only support so much. You know, there's just
a point in which the heart simply cannot function. Yeah,
I mean you've heard the stories of WWE sending him
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Invader to a fat camp basically, or it was like
a weight loss center, but they called it like a
fat camp, and they would check in with him and
he'd be like, yeah, yeah, I'm losing weight. I lost
one hundred pounds and like, oh, that's great. Then they
found out like he was completely just k fabe and
just lying. He didn't lose anything. In fact, they caught
him Invaders smuggling or having people for them smuggle fried
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chicken into the clinic so they could have fried chicken
every night. It's like they didn't lose anything. They actually
gained weight. They went to the Duke Weight Loss Center
to lose weight, and they actually came out of it
heavier than they were when they went in. You know,
I mean, these are grown adults. You can only do
so much. You can lead the horse to water, you
can't force it to drink if they don't want to
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lose the weight and put the work and then they're
not going to But then you're going to have a
premature death. Unfortunately, that's what's gonna happen. People need to
make their own decisions. The Winston slip. Which matches made
the best use of the gimmick? What matches made the
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best use of the gimmick? I mean, pick your favorite
stipulation matches, right, if you just answered your own question,
you know, wwe always had the escape out over the
top of the cage or through the door rule. To me,
Brett Nowen made the best use of it. I mean,
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there's been so how many ladder matches. I mean, there's
there's so many choices. There's a lot of great ladder matches,
So I mean take your pick. I don't really have
like a favorite lumberjack match, honestly. You know, when it
comes to stuff like falls count anywhere, I think those
hardcore twenty four to seven matches back in the Attitude era,
they made the most of that stipulation. Like when Al
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Snow and Bob Holly wrestled out of the arena into
the Mississippi River, I mean, how do you not love that?
Or when Al Snow and the Big Boss Men SummerSlam
I want to say Summer Slim ninety nine brawled out
of the building into the street, across the street, into
oncoming traffic into there was like a bar restaurant across
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the street. They went embrawled in there. That's what a
false count anywhere match should be. You get a false
count anywhere a match of these days, they're fucking lame.
They don't take full advantage of the stipulation. They don't.
They don't have fun with it. Everything is just very sanitized.
And why even bother, why even bother having the stipulation
if you're not gonna have fun with it? Abystle Zones.
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If late two thousands, Undertaker could wrestle the current roster,
who would you want to see him work with? Gunther?
Jacob Fought two and Logan come to mind. Logan Paul
would be a great opponent for Logan. Paul would be
bumping all over the place for him. Undertaker would love
to work with Gunther. He has said that that could
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have been a WrestleMania match, So Undertaker and Gunther, Undertaker
and Jacob Fought two would be I mean, Undertaker love
working with the Samoans anyway. Look, Undertaker and Umaga would
have been a great match. It's kind of surprising we
never got an Undertaker Umaga program. I think those two
would have worked really well together. But yeah, Gunther Jacob Fatu, Logan,
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Paul Seth Rollins. A proper match with aj styles I
think would have been fun. The Boneyard match was fun,
but they never had a real match inside a wrestling ring.
Didn't They wrestle in a ball pitch? Yeah? That was
when Crash Crash Holly was the twenty four to seven champ.
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The guys would just follow him everywhere and they wrestled
in a place called fun Time USA here in Brooklyn.
It's not there anymore. There's a storage a storage facility
there now, but there used to be this. I mean
fun Time USA was basically it was two levels and
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they had the you know, the hammer to test your strength.
They had the bumper cars. Upstairs is where all the
arcades were. They had tons of arcades and ski ball
and there was a giant super slide that connected the
top floor to the bottom floor. I rode that slide
many times. And so when you watch that segment back
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from SmackDown where the head bangers are chasing him through
fun Time USA. That's where they start. Crash is playing
the arcades. The head Bangers attack and Crash goes down
the super slide and the ball pit is right there,
so yeah, they chase him through the airport. I think
Crash escaped through the baggage the baggage machine. It was fun.
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It was fun. I missed that anyway, Thank you guys
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