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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tonight, WWE was in Utah for Saturday Night's main event,
the second to last one this year. We have one
more to go, and that will be John Sena's retirement
match that's coming up in DC on December thirteenth. And
tonight we actually got some news in regards to John
Sena's retirement match. They are indeed going to be having
a tournament that is going to be playing out and
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taking place over the next several weeks, a sixteen man
bracket to determine who will get to call themselves the
last man to ever set foot in the ring against
John Cena, and that is going to be commencing a
week from tomorrow, actually not tomorrow from Monday. I still
think of these shows as Sunday night shows. But a
week from Monday in Boston, this tournament will kick off
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and we will find out at that point who that
person is going to be. And we heard from John
Cena tonight he wasn't there live, but he did mention
and actually he was not the only one who wasn't
there live in Salt Lake City. Evidently Triple H couldn't
be bothered to be at the show tonight either, so
he was not there, but John Cena didn't say something
very interesting in the video package that they aired, which
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was there are going to be men in this tournament,
not only from Raw, not only from SmackDown, not only
from NXT, but from faraway lands that are unrelated to WWE.
There could be men in this tournament who don't even
work for WWE. And of course you can imagine what
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some people are thinking and the names that are going
through their heads right now, setting themselves up. But I'm
sure for disappointment. So it was newsworthy to give that information.
And I'm going to talk more about this tournament and
what Sena had to say. But the big takeaway outside
of that, the big news coming out of the show
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stem from the main event, which was CM Punk and
jay Uso for the World Heavyweight Championship. So anybody who
still had any lingering doubts as to the legitimacy of
the injury to Seth Rollins, you need not worry anymore.
I don't know why people still would have thought that
it was a work at this point, it's pretty obvious.
I mean, once they took the championship off of him,
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it ain't work. But there were some people who still
had lingering doubts. So Seth Rollins gets hurt, it ruins
their plans. It was gonna be CM punkin Seth Rollins
tonight for the World Heavyweight Championship, and CM punk would
not have left Salt Lake City tonight as the World
Heavyweight Champion if that match had taken place. I think
we're in a very different universe right now. Had Seth
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not gotten hurt, I think these reports of Austin Theory
joining the Vision, I think a lot of these things
would have played out and it would have fed into
a war Games match at Survivor Series. None of that
happened tonight. So the question was would we actually have
a new World Champion crown or were we gonna have
the bronze run in and ruin the festivities? Were they
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gonna drag this out a little bit longer? Was Jimmy
Usso going to get involve one of the ussos? Were
they gonna go heal in this match? Was Jimmy gonna
cost Jay? Was Jay gonna turn on Punk when the
match was over? Right? All of these questions about what
might possibly happen here in this match, And I came
into this show thinking you know, I really don't want
either one of these guys to leave tonight is the
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world heavyweight champion, and I would love for them to
find a way to drag this out because Survivor Series
is so close. Survivor Series is coming up, and you
could play this thing out. You could do a tournament.
The minute they announced this, John Cena, Last Time is
now tournament, which is what they're calling it, I knew
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at that point like the chances of that were just nil,
Like it wasn't happening right because they don't want to
run tournaments concurrently at the same time like that, unless
it's like King and Queen of the Ring. I mean,
they kind of go hand in hand. But the minute
they made that announcement tonight, I knew that idea was dead,
and it was pretty clear to me that we were
gonna have a new world heavyweight champion. And I said
coming into this show that if someone has to win
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that title tonight, then I hope that someone is cmpunk,
because Jay Uso is the world heavyweight Champion is not
something that I care to see. Earlier in the year,
I fell differently. Earlier in the year, they had a
story they told with Jay Usso, and he went in
there and he finally won the big one, and it
was a very polarizing win. A lot of people didn't
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like that. A lot of people didn't like the way Gunther,
you know, very easily tapped out to jay Uso WrestleMania
like it was some sort of slap in the face
to Gunther. But the idea was that, Okay, they're gonna
tell this story with this guy who's super popular and
everybody yeats and they sell, you know, a shipload of merch,
and so they're gonna push him to the moon and
they're gonna put the World Heavyweight Championship on him and
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make him a made guy. Right. That was the id
behind it. And at no point did I think or
did I hope or expect that he was going to
have a long run. But he had his run and
then it was over right. It's like, okay, great, the
dream is now over right, playtime is over. It's back
to business, and the title ended up back on Gunther.
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The idea of putting the World Heavyweight Championship back on
jay Uso right now is something that doesn't appeal to me.
I know, it doesn't appeal to a lot of people.
They're telling this story of this discourse between the Ussos
and Roman reigns, and of course the Bloodline family drama,
which we've been watching for five years now, and that's
fine if they want to tell that story, but jay
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Uso does not need to be the World heavyweight Champion
as that story plays itself out. So I was hoping
that if somebody had to win, it would be ce Unpunk,
And in fact, Cmpunk is once again the World heavyweight Champion.
He had the title for five minutes at SummerSlam, but
now he's going to have a proper run. However long
it lasts. It's already lasted longer than his last one,
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but he is now the World heavyweight Champion. That main
event tonight was the worst thing on the entire show.
This was a Saturday Night's main event that honestly was
was mostly carried by good in ring action. This was
not a pl This was a souped up version of
raw or SmackDown, which, really, when you think about it,
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is what Saturday Night's main event was always really kind
of presented. As it was presented as a souped up
version of what you would see on TV. It was
to fill the gap between pay per views, and it
really served the same purpose today that it did many
years ago. So that's what this show was. Honestly, the
best part of the entire show was the fact that
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we didn't have to sit through commercials during the matches
because this show no longer airs on NBC Peacock Only, unless,
of course, you're watching internationally, then you had it on Netflix,
no change for you, unless it was on YouTube. Were
they airing it on YouTube? There was some controversy that
it might be on Netflix, but it's not. Wherever it
was in the US, It's on Peacock Only, So they
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saved the commercials for in between the matches. We had
ten minutes of commercials in between matches. But the best
part was that none of the matches themselves were actually
interrupted by these break that we had to suffer through
on previous editions of this show. So that was honestly
the best part. The main event itself, though, was the
weakest part of the entire show. I did not like
that main event. I thought that main event for the
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most part, especially the first half of that match, I
thought that main event was a sloppy mess. I don't
know what was going on with jay Uso. In the
first half of the match. He got a little bit better.
As the match went on, he just looked out of it.
I don't know what the fuck was going on with him.
I've seen CM punkin for that matter, I've seen jay
Uso have better matches than the one they had together tonight.
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That was not a good match. I'm sorry it was not.
We had Cody Rhodes and Drew McIntyre, they had a
good match. Jade Cargill and Tiffany Stratton was exactly what
it needed to be. We had a triple threat for
the Intercontinental title. I thought it was fun. None of
the outcomes on this show were surprising in the least.
It pretty much played out exactly the way that I
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said that it would and that I figured that it would.
But of all the matches on the show, the main event,
the match they saved for last, was the worst thing
on the entire show. So now Punk is the world champion,
and now we're heading into Survivor Series, and it just
seems to me because I'm trying to think, you know,
what else would you have even Punk doing on the
show if he wasn't going to be in a Wargames match,
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because they've really been giving the impression of late that
the MFTs are going to end up in a Wargames match,
and I just I hope to the wrestling gods above
that that is not the case. Frankly, I would be
perfectly fine if they wanted to put them in some
sort of traditional Survivor Series elimination match, with Triple H
is allergic to doing that. So we still don't know
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who's going to be in Wargames. I'm hoping that this
means Punk Roman, you know, will end up with some
of those names, just to avoid the MFT stuff. And
I assume that's what Punk will be doing, and then
he'll carry that World Heavyweight Championship into next year. And
the only question now is do they keep that title
on him until WrestleMania does he drop the championship in
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advance of Wrestleman Because I was starting to warm up
to the idea very much so that at WrestleMania next year,
perhaps we could actually get a match between Punk and Cody,
which is something they've teased before. Obviously, you know, right
now they're on separate brands. It doesn't look very likely
it would not be difficult to get that championship off
of Punk. Long before WrestleMania, you got an elimination chamber
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coming up in Chicago at the end of February. Punk
could win the chamber, he can go challenge for the
title on the other show. Get that match with Cody again,
one of many possibilities going forward. There'll be plenty of
time for us to brainstorm and kind of fantasy book
and what that might look like. Cody Roads, though, is
still the WWE champion. That was not a surprise to me,
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even though on SmackDown last night they added a bunch
of stipulations that would make you think it might be
a little bit easier to envision Cody might lose the championship.
But because I was expecting other champions crowned on this show,
it just seemed very unlikely to me that they were
going to take the belt off of Cody, And in
fact they didn't, and Drew McIntyre got beat again fairly clean.
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I might add, we'll get into the details of what
happened here, but I'm at a point now with Drew
McIntyre where it's like men how many times and this
is I feel the same way about russeven Pentapent, especially
because they were unsuccessful tonight against Dom for the IC title.
At what point do you look at some of these
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men who constantly go in there and get booked in
these championship matches and lose. At what point do you
look at it and go it's time to move on?
Like when does the balloom come off the rose? When
do you lose interest in seeing the same people challenging
for the same titles unsuccessfully over and over again before
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you look at it and go, Okay, it's time to
move on to the next I'm about at that point
now with Drew McIntyre. It happened to Wrestle Palooza. It
happened again here tonight, and you got to ask the question,
if you can't beat the champion, even when you take
away the champion's advantage, then why is this man being
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fed championship matches. It's kind of where we're at now
with him. As far as Jade is concerned. That was
the least shocking thing on the entire show, that we
have a new WWE Women's champion. From the moment that
they signed a TKO sign this woman. I am sure,
I am sure that they were waiting for the day
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that they can give her her crowning moment and do
that photo shoot of her with that championship and really
market her and push her as their top female star,
at least on SmackDown. So now she's got the championship,
and now we wait for Bianca bel Air to make
her eventual return, because that seems to be the natural
match as we head into WrestleMania season. So this was
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a newsworthy show because of the championship changes. It was
a newsworthy show because of the John Cena announcement, which
I will talk about, and so overall, I mean it
was fine. It was probably one of the more enjoyable
episodes of Saturday Night's main event because of the lack
of commercial interruptions during the matches as far as a
viewing experience is concerned. But no Jesse Ventura. This was
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the first one I believe that Jesse was not on,
even though he was supposed to be on all of
them this year. So see, this is what happens when
you speak out of turn and you say things that
the company does not like, they will silence you. And
so there was no Jesse Ventura. I suspect that there
will be no more Jesse Ventur, which is too bad.
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I was kind of looking forward to him ranting about
another referee, crooked referee here. He would have been ranting
about the referee and the Cody and Drew match, I'm sure,
So it's too bad. I was hoping that Jesse would
be on the show. But I'm here to talk about
the show. This is your Saturday Night's main event review.
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So let's get into this here. Because after the usual
shots of people arriving at the building and sipping their
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coffee in the back, it was out to the arena,
just a tour Joe Tessitour. He's doing the college football
thing here this season. So Joe Tessitur was not there
to host. I mentioned no Jesse Ventura. It was right
to the action here and they opened the show with
the WWE Championship match Cody Roads and Drew McIntyre. That
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right there should have been a Telltales signed. This title
is not changing hands. They're not going to change the
WWE title here in this opening match. So it was
Cody Andrew and there were some stipulations that were added
on SmackDown last night. Specifically, the title could change hands
on a disqualification, the title could change hands on a
count out. Drew McIntyre wanted those stipulations added so that
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Cody couldn't weasel his way out of this match and
retain his title and run home. And Cody said, sure,
if that's what it takes to get you in the
ring and end this, then so be it. So the
champion's advantage was gone right, the title was engraved jeopardy here.
Coming into this match, they lowered the old school MSG
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microphones from the ceiling for Lily and Garcia to do
her ring introductions. McIntyre had her announce him as the
real American dream. Next week he'll be walking out to
the ring drinking some real American beer. That'll be the
next thing they do, which reminds me. They had the red,
white and blue ring ropes tonight, which is always nice
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to see. Yes, I know, Joe Tessitour was in Jacksonville
for the Georgia versus Florida game. Thank you, Paul. This
is college football season. I'm surprised. I'll be surprised if
he's on television much at all, But I mean apparently
he's there on Mondays. So but when the weekends are concerned,
he's got bigger he's got bigger things to partake in.
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Punk and Jade were my go tos for title changes.
Jade was I mean, Jade was guaranteed. Jade was a
slam dunk. McIntyre went for a souplex, Cody reversed it
with one of his own. McIntyre rolled out to the floor.
He was trying to lure Cody out to the ring
for a count out, and this was really the theme
of the first I'd say half of this match. He
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was trying to get him counted out. He was trying
to goad him into getting disqualified because again he knew
that the minute he gets disqualified, he wins the championship.
And Cody wasn't taking de bait. McIntyre kept trying to
goad him and wasn't working, so Cody fired up, started
throwing some jabs. He got a little too aggressive with
the stomps in the corner, kicking too much ass, and
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when he turned around he almost hit the referee, Dan Engler,
and he had to hold up. So on the outside,
McIntyre dumped Cody over the barricade to try to get
the count out win. He managed to get back in
the ring before the count of eight. McIntyre hit a
belly to bell i mean Cody went flying halfway across
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the ring on this throw. McIntyre took a moment to
mug for the crowd before climbing the ropes, and Cody
met him up there and they threw some hands. Cody
got McIntyre up, he landed a superplex and he followed
that with a disaster kick and a Cody cutter for
a two count, got a bionic elbow and he charged it.
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McIntyre drew though, caught him with a spinebuster, and then
he planted him with a sitout power bomb. McIntyre rolled
out of the ring and he grabbed the WWE Championship,
brings it into the ring and Cody rips it out
of his hands and he tosses it to the referee,
and as the referee was disposing of the championship, that
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gave Drew the opening he needed for a flash Claymore
kick out of nowhere, but he was only able to
get a two count out of it, so Cody rolled
out of the ring. McIntyre then sets him up in
front of the announced desk and he was going to
deliver a Claymore kick through the announced desk, which, if
you remember, that was the whole angle that they did a
few months ago where Cody disappeared for weeks and weeks
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so that he can go film for Street Fighter, and
we didn't see him for a while. Cody, though, cut
him off with a fist to the gut or the
bread basket gorilla, mons soon would say, and he put
Drew back in the ring. McIntyre then charged and he
knocked Cody off the apron before he could even get
back in the ring, and Cody flew. He landed on
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the announced desk and then bounced over the announced desk
and onto the floor. And Drew was looking to win
the championship by count out here and he's telling the
referee to count, and the referee begins counting. This was
the fastest count that you will ever see. It's for
somebody who just landed outside the ring, and the referee
it felt like he was already on three. I mean,
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he was counting super fast here. So Cody had to
recover quickly. He was able to make it back in
before the ten count. McIntyre set him up for another claymore.
Cody ducked, and Drew then tried a future shock DDT.
Cody blocked it and he got backed into the corner,
and there was an awkward spot here where he went
to go run into the corner. He was going to
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run the ropes for a Cody cutter, like a supercutter,
and the referee was in his way, so Cody hesitated.
He had to slow up a little bit, and he
started to run the ropes and then he stopped and
he sold that he hurt his knee. Right, so now
he's selling some sort of knee injury. And I don't
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know if that was, you know, the plan spot or
if he just decided to sell the leg because he
realized that, you know, we fucked something up and this
just looks awkward, so let me just sell my knee.
I don't know what the deal was. He immediately went
back to the spot like fifteen seconds later and wasn't
really selling the knee, and he hit the super cutter
and Drew kicked out. So then Cody at that point
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he sets up for Crossroads. McIntyre kicks him in the face,
sends him into the corner. He squashes the referee and
the referee. He falls to the mat unconscious, and I
lost track of all of the wrestling tropes in this match.
I just did a segment on this on the podcast
last week. There were at least I don't know four
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of them, five of them probably in this match alone.
McIntyre hits a Glasgow kiss. Referees down though right he
can't count the fall, so using that to his advantage,
McIntyre grabs the belt again. He goes to hit Cody
with it. Cody ducks and the two of them hit
the ropes. They come off and they collide. They had
the same idea and they collide with a double crossbody
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and both men are down and the belt is on
the mat. Referee is also still laying there dead. McIntyre
goes for the belt again. Cody manages though to ddt
him onto the belt and then he tosses the belt
out of the ring to get rid of the evidence.
Now the referee finally begins to They are just in
time to see Cody hit Crossroads and get the pin
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to retain the championship. And I will say this, at
least it only took him one It only took him
one of his finishes to actually put somebody away. I
don't know what that says about Drew McIntyre because it
takes fucking three of them to put most people away.
It only took one. Now, granted it was on the belt,
so I'll give him that. This was about the same
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as their Wrestle Paluza match. I would say, maybe slightly better.
If I was going to grade this on a scale
of one to five, I'd go three and a half
here for this match. I think that's fair. It was
a good match with a lame finish. And I told you, like,
even with the stipulation we just talked about this last night,
even with the stipulations that they added to at least
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add a little more intrigue to the match and make
you really believe, hey, we might get a title change
here in this match. At no point did it actually
feel to me as if Cody was realistically going to
lose this championship, no matter how much they tried to
stack the deck against him. Knowing that there was going
to be at least one and very likely two other
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champion new champions crowned on this show, I could not
envision them taking the title from Cody and making it three.
Somebody was going to have to be the odd man
out here. Drew McIntyre was the odd man out. So
it played out in the way that I expected it to.
But how much of a loser does Drew McIntyre look
like after what we saw here? I mean, look, he
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more or less lost clean at Wressel Palooza. Now, if
you remember what happened at Wressell Palooza, right, he was
going to go for the kick against the Claymore kick
up against the announced desk, which was what put Cody
out in the first place, and the referee jumped out
of the ring might have been Ryan Tran jumped out
of the ring to try to stop him from doing it,
even though there was nothing illegal about it. There was
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nothing illegal, and Drew wanted to give him a kick
against the announced desk. Who is the referee to jump
out of the ring and say, oh, hold up, you
can't do that, right, And that little delay is what
led to Drew doing the kick. Cody moved, Drew sold it,
Lucky broke his fucking foot, but still Cody basically beat
him clean. And I should point out, by the way,
the same spot they repeated, the same spot in this match.
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I didn't see this referee jumping out of the ring
to stop him. I didn't see any other referees running
out to try to stop him. Little inconsistency there, But
he basically lost clean at wrestled Palooza, and he lost
clean here. And if people will get to point to
the title in the ring, and he did, he ted
him on the belt, and that's cheating, you know how
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I look at it this way, Cody is not the
one who introduced the belt into the ring. Drew, did
you live by the sword? You died by the sword.
Cody didn't bring the championship into the ring. Cody didn't
blast him in the head with the championship you might
have wanted to. The belt was just laying there. Shit
happens nothing, He didn't do anything wrong. It was part
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of the ring. It's like you take the top turnbuckle
off right, you run somebody's head into it. It's part
of the ring. People get run into the ring steps
all the time. They don't get disqualified. Why because it's
part of the ring. As the belt was laying there,
it was part of the ring as far as I'm concerned.
So you know, two losses now in a row, not
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in a row, but they had that match on smacked
down a couple of weeks ago they drew one by DQ.
But that's two fairly clean losses now to Cody Rhodes.
And it's like, well, okay, so are we just going
to have Drew come out on television again this Friday
and complain about being screwed again? Is that really what
we're in for? I already saw him. He was on Twitter.
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He posted the Gift from God? Was it that wrestle
con It was Conrad's event star cast several years ago.
Maybe it was tied into the original All In where
Cody told the story about the referel. Referee fucked on me.
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Remember that that gift? I see that give going around
every now and then. I don't even remember what the
story was. I just remember him saying that. So Drew
posted that clip on his Twitter before. So he's already
complaining about the referee screwing him over, and so we're
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gonna hear about this now for another few weeks. At
what point do you look at this and go, you
know what, I'm kind of over it. I really wanted
Drew McIntyre to win the championship here. Get that title
off Cody, right, shake things up a little bit, make
Cody chase him for a change instead of the other
way around, and maybe we'll still get there, but at
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this point to me, it just feels like a lost
cause it really does. You know, McIntyre is in that
Kevin Ohen spot where he's a great talent that you
can plug in there. You know, he's gonna give you
a good match or a great match, and he could
be a great heel, right, a great heel foil for
the champion, but the likelihood of them actually pulling the
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trigger and putting the championship on him just remains very low,
like basement low, and it feels like that's where we're at,
you know, with Drew McIntyre. So you ask yourself, like, Okay,
what do you do now? With Cody? It's probably going
to be McIntyre and Randy Orton will come back, because
one would assume that at some point Randy Orton is
going to come back to work, right, unless he's secretly
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done and we're not aware of it, He's going to
have to come back to work at some point, and
maybe we get a triple threat match and they put
the title on the line there and they do a
title change at Survivor Series. So we're not done with this,
but I just wonder because I'm one of these people.
Now that I've seen this, I'm less enthusiastic about Drew
McIntyre and Cody and Drew winning the title than I
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was even last night, because it's like, how many times
are we going to see this until eventually they decide, Okay,
now's a good time, I will do a title change.
Maybe they'll do it as Survivor Series. So then we
have four more weeks of Drew bitching and moaning about
the referee screwing him over. That's basically what we're in for.
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We had Tiffany Stratton defending the WWE Women's Championship against
Jade Cargill, the newly healed Jade car gill Man. That
scar on her eyebrow is just it looks badass on her,
but it's brutal. I do wonder if she's gonna have surgery,
cosmetic surgery at some point for that. I think it
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works for her, but I'm just wondering in the long
run if she wants that giant fucking scar on her face.
It's pretty nasty. So before the match, they cut to
the back before we even get into the match. We
got to talk about this. They cut to the back
and Nick all this, the general manager of SmackDown, is
still pleading with Tiffany, please, are you sure you're okay?
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Are you sure that you're up for this match? And
Tiffany insists, no, I want this match. I'm fine, I'm
gonna go through with it. And I'm thinking, I'm like,
I'm watching this and I'm just thinking, like it's a
little late. Chief, Like he was asking her this on
SmackDown last night, and so he's still asking her now,
and it's like, well, what if she decided, you know what, Nick,
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on second thought, I think you're right. I think I
would like to bow out. I don't know that I'm
really all there. My knee hurts me. I'm not one
hundred percent, you know what. On second thought, I'm about
to walk out to that ring, but fuck it, I
don't want to wrestle tonight. It's a good thing that
Tiffany was still okay with wrestling tonight, because if she
would have said no, that would have been a problem
since they only book four matches on this show. So
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thankfully Tiffany was still okay with going out there and
wrestling so when they came back live into the arena,
they Oh, by the way, did I mention that they
had about ten commercials here before we finally were able
to move the show on here. I'd rather be done
this way. I'm not complaining about that. But if you
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were wondering, are we getting commercials, the answer is yes,
you're just not getting them during the matches, so at
least that's better. But you're definitely getting them in between
the matches. So when they come back from these commercials,
they are showing us at ringside, Paullie's Shore and post
Malone among a few others are sitting at ringside here,
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and I'm like, where the hell did they dig up
Paullie's Shore from? What the fuck? What has he been
up to? I'm trying to think of the last thing
I would have seen Paulie Shore in. Honestly, like, I
think the last thing I would have seen him in
is Biodome. I don't know that I've seen him in
anything since. I know he's been working, but I don't
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think i've seen him in anything since then. And how
long ago was Biodome? Holy crap, there he was. Apparently
he's a WWE fan. Either that or he's doing work
with Peacock and they decided to put him on camera.
That's probably what it was. So Jade was out first,
and then Tiffany made her way out to the ring
and she had her knee all wrapped up and right
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from the bell here at the start of this match,
Tiffany jumped Jade Cargil, though fought back. She flattened Tiffany
with a huge choke slam. Actually, that choke slam looked great,
I thought. Jade then hit a pump handle flipping slam
for a two count. She threw Tiffany across the ring
and into the corner. She charged in Stratton, though moved
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out of the way. See I'm not the only one
who saw Biodome, right, See Biodome It still stands out
to me. I don't know if it still holds up.
I'm not going to go back and watch it. But
when I think of Paulie's Shore, that's the first thing
I think of is the movie Biodome had to be
from the late nineties, right, I don't think it was
made after the turn of the century. Pretty sure that
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would have been maybe, Like I don't know, ninety ninety
nine ish maybe God, I don't even know so anyway, Uh,
she charged in like I said, Tiffany moved, Stratton went
up top. She was having issues with her knee. Jade
knocked her into a tree of Woe, which of course
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caused the knee to be wrenched in the ropes. She
pulled Stratton out of the ring, dropped her head first,
actually face first, onto the ring apron. Cargill laid Tiffany
out on the ring steps. Tiffany, though, caught her and
tripped Jade face first into the steps, and I went, shit,
I'm just thinking of that fucking scar on her face.
That's how she got busted open in the first place.
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She took a face first bump into the ring steps,
and thankfully she was able to protect her face this time,
but it was close. Can you imagine she like opens
it up. Maybe she should get like a matching scar
in the other eyebrows, at least for consistency. She has
one on each side. So then she threw Jade back
into the ring. Tiffany went up top. Cargill met her there, though,
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Stratton threw Jade off and then hit her swant on
only for a two count. So now Tiffany is clutching
at the bad knee. Stratton gets up. Cargill hits a
blue thunderbomb for a two count. Then she hits a
fallaway slam, and then another and then another. Tiffany is
still holding on though, She's still trying to hang in there,
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so Jade hit a sit out power bomb for another
near fall. Then she hits a power bomb. She immediately
picks Tiffany up and hits another power bomb. Then she
picks Tiffany up and she hits jadd and she covers her.
She sits back on her and she gets the three count,
and just like that, Jade Cargil, for the first time
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in her WWE career, wins a singles championship. She is
the new WWE Women's Champion. This is exactly what this
match needed to be. This was basically the female equivalent
of brock Lesnar against John Cena at Wressell Palooza. That's
exactly what this was. That match maybe went two or
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three minutes longer, it was almost the same length. It
was a situation where the heel in this case, took
ninety five percent of the match. They gave the babyface
some hope spots a little bit of offense. They tried
to make a comeback, but they failed. They got demolished
in the closing minutes of the match, and then they lost.
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It was the same formula, but for Jade, this is
exactly what she needed, right. I mean, Brock didn't need
a win like that. Fuck does he need that for?
But Jade is the one who just got turned heel.
Jade is the one who went into Summer Slim and
lost to Tiffany. Jade is the one who got fucked
up and has a scar in her face now, but
she just got turned heel. You could not send this
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woman in there and lose. You couldn't do that. There
was no point in booking this match unless Jade was
going to come out on top and win the championship.
So the outcome was preordained from the moment this match
was made. But in terms of how they how they
handled it, and how they booked it, it could not
have gone any better. They cater to Jade's strengths. Jade
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is not somebody who's going to go in there and
have a long wrestling match, right. She's not a finesse performer.
She's all about power moves right. She's bigger than a
lot of the women on the roster. She looks like
a million bucks. She can go in there and pick
you up and toss you around the ring with a
bunch of fallaway slams and then kip up to her feet.
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She could toss you around like a rag doll. She
throws a mean pump kick, right, bicycle kick, whatever you
want to call it. There's certain things that she's very
good at. They tried here in this match to really
cater to that. Tiffany was a very simple story with her.
She was the baby face, even though I will tell
you I think Tiffany is a terrible babyface. Tiffany Stratton.
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She is a good performer, but in terms of being
a babyface, I think she's fucking terrible at it. She's
a much better heel this baby face Tiffany Stratton. She's popular.
I'm not saying she's not popular, but just for me anyway,
just like watching that character on TV, it never resonates
with me as a babyface. So in the long run,
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she's probably better off going heel. Also, but Jade going
heel was the right move, so I just thought they
handled this exactly the way that they should have. She
basically just wasn't a total squash, but she more or
less squashed Tiffany here. But Tiffany had the out with
the bum knee right, She had the injury coming into
the match, so the loss doesn't hurt her at all.
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The woman was undefeated for most of the year. They
have kept Tiffany incredibly strong, including a WrestleMania win over
Charlotte Flair, So it's not like you can watch this
match and go, oh my god, what have they done
with Tiffany. She lost to Jade. Yeah, well, Jade is
the one they've been wanting to push this entire year.
Everything was building to this moment, and now that she's
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the champion, it's only a matter of time before Bianca
bell Air comes back, and when she does. Right, you
don't go to it right away, but that probably will
end up being the wrestle match, depending on when Bianca
is actually able to get medically cleared. You could see
the vision and it's very clear of where this is
ultimately going to. The problem still remains whether you have
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Tiffany Stratton is the champion, Jade car Gill is the champion,
or solo monster or the women's champion, it doesn't matter.
You could put anybody in that spot. They still have
a massive problem when it comes to the women's division
on SmackDown. They do not have enough depth. They don't
And you have two former women's World champions in Charlotte
and Alexa Bliss who are currently doing the tag team things,
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so you could take them out of the equation for now.
So what are you really left with? And the women's
division on SmackDown not a whole hell of a lot.
You know a lot of people who are at that
level of the US title, right, Julia and Keana James,
and they're doing stuff with Chelsea Green and Zelina Vega
just got paired up with Alistair Black Meechen hasn't even
been on TV lately, right, who else is there? Realistically? Right?
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I mean, this division is in dire need of some
new faces and baby faces now that they have a
heel as the champion. So good for Jade, but she's
in the same spot Tiffany was in. You need challengers
for her. You need challengers for her or this rain
is going to die on the vine. And with this
talk about them adding people to the creative team to
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assist Road Dug, and they recognize that the show has
issues and they're trying to correct these issues. I hope
that's true. I hope that's true. Those are the reports
a few weeks ago. They have yet to manifest those
changes where the women's division is concerned. Right, there were
some certain things about the show in recent weeks that
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seemed like they were kind of heading in the right direction,
not yet with the women's division, and I hope they
work on that very quickly, or else it's going to
be a very boring run having this dominant champion who
doesn't have anybody to go in there and work with.
That's speaking of championships. Every match on this show was
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a championship match. So the next one was a triple
threat match for the Intercontinental title. It was Dirty Dom
Mysterio putting his title on the line against Penta and Russev,
two men here in this match who have been tormented
by Dom now for weeks on TV. So now Dom,
you would think, oh my god, right, it's almost like
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a handicap match here, right, This championship has got to
be engraved jeopardy. Yeah, right, did anybody honestly believe that
Dom was not walking out of Utah with the Intercontinental title.
I don't think I was interacting with anybody this week
after I did the predictions who said they thought Dom
was actually going to lose this match, and yet it
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turned out to be the best match on the entire show.
This match was actually this match right here ended up
being quite fun. It was in ring the best thing
on Saturday Night's made event. Now as the bell, Russev
and panted, they attack Dom and they took turns stomping
him and punching him. There was a moment here, and
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this will probably be talked about by a lot of people,
there was a moment here where Rusev, I don't remember
exactly where it was early in the match, but Russev
was outside the ring and he walked by this little kid,
this little boy in the front row, and he scared
the shit out of this little kid. And I laugh,
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like the kid retreated, he recoiled, and look, that's what
heels used to do back in the day. They would
walk around the ringside area. They would interact with the
fans and scare little kids. Right now, all the heels
these days are on social media. You see they're they're
real lives, and they're nice people. It's nice to see
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a heel who can actually scare the shit out of somebody.
I mean, look, if Rusev came at me, yeah, with
a big, mean look on his face, I'd probably turn
the other way too. So Russet picked up Mysteria threw
him across the ring like a like the small child
that he just scared. Dom rolled out of the ring.
Russev followed and Dom put his head into the ring post.
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Penta dove through the ropes. He took out Russev. Then
Dom did the same. He took out Penta. Later on,
Mysterio tripped up Russev. He went for a six to
one nine. Rusev, though, caught his legs on the swing
and then he pulled him into the ring. He slapped
on the accolade. Penta broke that up pretty quickly though,
with a superkick. Penta went for a springboard. Russev, though,
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caught him and slammed him, and then he set Penta
up on the top turnbuckle. Penta, though, fought free and
at this point Mysterio brought a chair into the ring
and Dom tried the old Eddie Guerrero spot right, he
turned to good old Dad and he went with the
Eddie Guerrero spot. He tossed a chair to Rusev, who,
of course was dumb enough to catch the chair instead
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of just letting it fall to the ground. Just as
the referee turned to find the chair in the possession
of Russev, and Dom thought he was slack. He thought
he'd pulled one over on him. But the referee is
looking at this like wait a minute, Like dude, it's
a triple threat match. There are no rules, there are
no disqualifications. So Russev smiles and he uses the chair
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on Dom and he hits him with the chair A
couple of times. After this, they did a spot where
Penta used Russev, who was on all fours. He used
Russev basically as a step stool to hit Dom with
a Mexican destroyer, and then he hit a Tornado DDT
to Russev. Penta went for the destroyer on Russev, who
caught him and hit an Alabama slam. Penta came back
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with a Penta driver to Russev for a close near fall,
and then Penta went up top. He jumped off and
he landed right in a Russev kick. So he's all
wobbly now, and he goes down and Russev applies the accolade,
and all of a sudden we hear the bell. The
ring bell is being rung, and everybody looks very confused,
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and I'm confused and second guessing what we're hearing here.
But Russev, the dumb shit that he is, of course thinks,
so wow, I'm the champion. Now that's it. The bell
is ringing. He must have given up. He doesn't second
guess anything, right, he's celebrating in the referee. He's like, no, no, no,
he didn't give up. And they look over to the
timekeeper's area, and of course it's Dom who has the
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ring bell hammer in his hand. He was the one
ringing the bell and distracting him. It's not very hard
to distract people in this company. So this angered Rusev greatly.
He went outside. He ragged all Dom all around the
ringside area. Mysterio though, shoved Rusev into the steps, and
then he climbed back into the ring and he had
the bell hammer and Penta stopped him. Grabbed the hammer.
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He went to go hit Dom with it, but Dom
ducked and he hit Rusev instead blasted him with the hammer. Mysterio,
then dropped Penta, then he went up top. He hit
a frog splash on Russev for the pin to retain
the championship. Mike, you know, I saw something the other
day that said that Russev and I think Alistair Black
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together had already in their WWE returns, lost more matches
than they ever lost in the entirety the years long
entirety of their respective runs in AAW. But I'm just
looking at Russev alone and the matches that he's lost.
He has easily lost more matches here just in the
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months that he has been back in WWE. Then he
did his entire run in AW But to be fair,
I'm not really sure how many matches he even wrestled
in AW in the last I don't know, two years,
two and a half years, not very many. So he
takes the loss here again and Dom wins the match,
he retains the championship. I thought it was a fun match,
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it never dragged that they kept things moving along and
nicely here. You know, I never bought into Dom losing
the title, but again, It's the same thing with Drew
and I mentioned it before, where Penta and Russev They've
had multiple opportunities now at this championship, and at what
point do you look at this and go it's time
to move on. This is getting boring, you know, watching
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the same people lose the same matches against the same
person over and over again and failed to win the championship.
Who's next? Because I don't want to keep seeing these
guys go in there, especially Penta, And yeah, they spared
him from taking the pin here, but still he lost.
And so there were rumors that Dom might be wrestling
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and even defending the title against John Sena at Survivor Series,
which I think is still very much possible, you know,
even though they have all eyes towards this tournament and
who's going to be his final opponent. Sena is scheduled
for Survivor Series. Now, they never said he was going
to wrestle at Survivor Series, but that would be pretty
fucking lame in his last ever Survivor Series if he
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goes in there and doesn't wrestle. So I assume Seene
is wrestling somebody on that show. It may well be
domb so you know, and I'm sure most people saw
the same rumors about that there was no way he
was losing that championship. Here, he may lose that championship
to John Cena, but it was the outcome I think
that most people probably expected. And since I'm talking so
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much here about John Cena, that brings me to what
we had next here on the show, which was unexpected.
This was not anything they announced that Sena was not there,
but anything Sena related was not mentioned, right, But it
does make sense because the next Saturday Nights made event
happens to be John Cena's final match. So they pitched
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it to an excerpt a sneak peek of a sit
down interview that John Cena did with reporter Tom Ronaldi
that they said is going to be dropping soon, and
in the clip, Sena said that he made a promise
that he would not stick around when his skills cannot
match the product that he says they can't physical activity,
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he said one hundred percent, and he very rarely speaks
in absolutes, but he says, I will hear never again
will he be physical, never again will he be back
in the ring, because he doesn't want to let his
fans down. He doesn't want to lie to people. You know,
when he told everybody last year that that was going
to be it. The end of twenty twenty five was
going to be the end of his in ring career.
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It was going to be the last time we would
ever see him in the jorts and the T shirt
and the hat and the sneakers. That's it, right. It's
like the Undertaker. Undertaker has maintained that you will never
see him in his old school dead Man Undertaker gear
ever again. Like if he was to come out and
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do a choke slam or something, which he's done, by
the way, multiple times. He did it a wrestle Maybia
last year, he did it in XT with Trick Williams.
But he's always out there was the American badass, you know.
He has stuck to his guns outside. I think of
one appearance in Saudi, and of course it's the Saudi,
so if they want him, he'll do whatever they want
him to do. I think it was some kind of
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sporting events soccer game. I forgot what it was. He
got his full dead Man entrance, dead Man gear, he
came out I think present some kind of trophy outside
of that I can't think of a single appearance he's
made in his old Undertaker gear, and John Cena has
maintained the same thing, like at the end of twenty
twenty five, that's it. Next time you see him, he'll
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be in a suit, or he'll be wearing something else.
So people, of course, we have all heard and seen
wrestlers say shit like this before. Oh I'm done, this
is my retirement, right, we don't have wrestling retirements generally go.
John Cena is one person who when he says he's done,
I believe that he's done. When Batista said that his
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last match ever would be at WrestleMania thirty five match
against Triple H, I believe him. I believe him not
just because he's got Hollywood to fall back on, but
because it was very clear that it meant a lot
to him that his last opponent would be Triple H.
Considering how much Triple H did for him in his career.
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I don't ever see him coming back and ruining that.
So that was the gist of what Sina wanted to
communicate here. I'm being one hundred percent honest with you guys.
I'm done after this next match. So then they aired
a video and it was narrated by John Cena, promoting
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his final match for the next Saturday Night's Made event.
It is coming up on December thirteenth, and he's talking
about all the speculation about who his final opponent is
going to be. He wants someone to step up and
seize the same opportunity that he was given on his
first day. He says the spot will not be given,
it will be hard earned. Starting a week from Monday,
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when Raw comes to his hometown of Boston, they will
kick off a sixteen man tournament to decide which talent
is going to move on to DC next month and
wrestle him in his final ever match. And he said
that it will include talent from Raw, it will include
talent from SmackDown, it will include talent from NXT and
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even talent that doesn't work here from other places. A
mix of old faces and plenty of new ones, with
the winner facing him in his last match. So they
are dubbing this the Last Time is Now tournament. That's
what they're calling it. And by the way, apologize to
Dave Meltzer is the one who reported this first about
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there being a tournament to crown seen his last opponent,
So everybody who mocked him for that specific report, apologize,
apologize to Dave because he got that one right. I
assume this is why they did not want to even
entertain the idea of doing a tournament for the World
Heavyweight Championship and trying to kind of get more mileage
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out of this and get a lot of TV out
of this over the next several weeks lead into Survivor
Series Crown New Champion. There probably a combination of this
and whatever their war games plans might be. But you know,
they didn't want to run another tournament at the same
time when the focus is going to be on this
last Time is Now tournament. And I get it, I
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understand it. You know that's right now, that's the more
important thing they want to focus on that it's a
big sixteen man bracket. It's gonna be a lot of
people involved. So I mean that explains why they probably
never even entertained the idea, you know, of doing a
tournament for the world title. I think it's a great
way to make the weekly shows interesting as this tournament plays,
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I'm actually very much looking forward to seeing how this
tournament plays out. I like the fact that it is
cross branded. I like that they went with a sixteen
man bracket instead of an eight man bracket. And even more,
I like that they are teasing the possibility, and they
wouldn't be teasing it if we were not going to
get people from other promotions. But they are teasing the
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idea that, hey, there might even be a few faces
in this thing that don't work for WWE, or maybe
they used to work for WWE and they no longer
work for WWE. And again, a lot of people, I'm
already seeing it. A lot of people are going to
be going Adam Copeland, Edge, Baby Edge is coming back.
It's gonna be John Cena and Edge in his final match.
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I don't know why does that match even really appeal
to people? Like for his final opponent. I mean, I
guess so there are people that consider Edge to be
his greatest rival for me at CMPUNK, but I guess
I could see where if you believe that Copeland is
his greatest rival, since we already had Orton and Sena,
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if we had Punk and Sina, it's only right that
we get you know, Sena and Edge one last time.
To me, that doesn't appeal to me. As far as
his final match is concerned, it is not going to
be Adam Copeland. Unless Adam Copeland's contract secretly ran out
last month with AW and Tony Kahn stayed very quiet
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about it. He is under contract to AAW and I
cannot of vision a scenario with the bad blood that
exists between these two promotions. Not the talent, right, the
talent they all get along great, it's this fucking stupid
war that exists among the people who run these companies
because you know they're both especially WWE petty as shit.
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I cannot of vision a scenario in which Adam Copeland
is allowed to participate in a tournament to crown John
Cena's final opponent. Let alone go in there and lose
to be in the tournament and not even win, or
if he wins the tournament, go on and lose to
John Cena. Like no, oh, and anybody who's getting excited
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about this, all you're doing is setting yourself up for disappointment.
I'm just warning you don't set yourself up for disappointment
when it comes to that. And Jericho's another one too,
by the way, there's a better chance that maybe Jericho
could be in it. But as far as anybody knows,
Jericho is under contract still to AW, so it ain't
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gonna be him either, but it sure is hell ain't
gonna be Adam Copeland. So what does that mean. Well,
TNA happens to be a promotion that they are very
chummy with lately, and they have a partnership, an actual
partnership with TNA, and they just did a whole invasion
show with them a few weeks ago. And there are
plenty of people on the TNA roster that I could
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see being a part of this thing, including some old
faces that John Cena would be very familiar with, including
Nick Nemeth and Matt Cardona. And there's another guy, by
the way, who has been lobbying all year for a
match with John Cena. Now I don't think he's gonna
get it, but at least maybe he can get himself
the tournament, and that would be Joe Hendry. I could
absolutely see any or all three of those guys as
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a part of this tournament. And then you look at NXT,
because it's open to nxts, you're gonna have at least
one nxtename in there. Is it going to be a
trick Williams. Is it going to be Oba Femi? Is
that the way they want to debut Obafemi on the
main roster by having him go in there and potentially
lose in a tournament like this, because I just don't
see him being the final opponent, right, It's possible. It
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would be one way, I guess to potentially launch him
in the eyes of people who may not be familiar
with who he is. Javon Evans. You know, Javon Evans
gonna get a spot in this tournament. I'd give him one.
He's one of the most exciting performers in the entire
company to watch, one of the fast young rising stars.
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Why wouldn't you have him in this tournament? Yeah? You
look at other names are on the main roster right now.
You got Seamus right, he's had some battles with John
Cena before. He should absolutely be in the tournament. Carmel
O Hayes, Miss, don't be surprised if they do the
Miss Carmelo Hayes match as a part of this tournament.
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And then there's Gunther and Gunther is who I think
the final opponent is going to be. Gunther is the
one who I think is going in there and beating
John Cena at Saturday Night's main event. Whether it's for
the Intercontinental title or not, again, that depends on whether
Sena wrestles Dom at Survivor Series. It's gonna be Gunther. Now,
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maybe we get a Gunther Ilia Dragonov match or a
Gunther Ilia Dragonov final in that tournament. What a fucking
match that would be. That would be tremendous. But I
think all roads lead to Gunther's return imminently. I think
that's why they've been holding him out. They've been waiting
for this, and I think that's what the match is
going to be. But whoever it is, whatever they do,
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I like that they're doing this and I think it
should help make television a little more exciting in the
weeks now. They did not announce when the finals would be,
so it would make sense that it would be its
Survivor Series, which I guess depending on who's in that match.
I don't really think it would affect anybody who would
be in any rumored matches on that show. So if
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they were to do Cody and Drew again, or Cody
and Drew and Randy, none of them have to be
in the tournament as far as wargames, if they did wargames,
not with the MFTs and they had Punk and Roman
and the ussos. Again, some of them could be in
the tournament. Maybe they lose, they don't make it to
the finals, so you could do the finals. I mean,
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I guess it really just depends on who's in the finals.
But Survivor Series would seem to be the place to
do it because Saturday Night's made event is what two
weeks later, two and a half weeks later, It's not
a lot of time after Survivor Series until you get
to that match, So that would seem to be the destination.
They just didn't confirm that here in this video. Now.
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They closed with the main event to crown a brand
new World Heavyweight Champion between CM Punk and Jay Usso
you know the story. Adam Pearce, he stripped Seth Rollins
of the World Heavyweight Championship due to injury. We had
a Battle Royal a few weeks ago because Punk had
already been named number one contender. He had earned that spot,
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so they had the Battle Royal to crown another number
one contender who would face Cmpunk, And that's how we
ended up with Jay Uso. So we get started here
and Jay gives Punk a shove and Punk tries to
very quickly hit a gts Uso got out of it.
There was a neck breaker spot early in this match
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where Jay. It was a simple neckbreaker. Jay just he
over rotated. He kept going and it was just it
fell apart. He kept spinning and the spot just fell apart.
I have no idea what he thought Punk was going for.
So Jay seemed dazed. After this. Punk started throwing chops.
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Punk charged and Jay caught him with a Samoan drop.
Jay went for a spear, but Punk caught him and
hit another neck breaker. There was another spot where Jay
was in the corner and he was setting up for
a Roman Reigns spear as he came in, though Punk
stuffed the attempt just the way that he being j
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just the way that he braced for it, and kind
of stopped as he was coming in and fell down.
He sort of fell down like it didn't look good.
I'm watching this and I'm like, man, what's going on
with Jay here? Like this is fucking awful. He looked
fucking terrible here in this match. So they kept a
deliberately slow pace early on, very deliberate. Punk finally connected
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with the GTS J out of the ring, and instead
of going out to get him, Punk decided to look
shocked for a while. Yes, that's very helpful instead of
going because the championship is at steak here, let me
just lay here and look shocked by what happened, Like
I've never seen someone fall out of the ring before
after a GTS. So he finally jumped out of the
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ring and he grabbed a bottle of water. He dumped
it on Jay to try to wake him up, and
then he threw him back in the ring. I don't
know what purpose that served, but okay. Punk placed j
on the top turnbuckle. He tried for a superplex, USO
blocked it, headbutted Punk back down to the mat. USO
went for a stomp and Punk moved out of the way,
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so Jay went for a spear. Punk, though, caught him
with a GTS attempt. Jay got out of it. He
hit the spear anyway, then an USO splash, but Punk
kicked out it too, and after that near fall, they
got a very light this is awesome chant from the
crowd here in Salt Lake City and the chant very
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quickly died down, very quickly. It petered out because in fact,
this was not awesome, and I think even a lot
of the fans and the crowd realized, like, what the
fuck are you doing? Like stop chanting, and so they
quickly did. So. Jay went back up top. Punk met
him there with a pair of right hands. He climbed
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up with him. We got a superplex by Punk, very
dumb because Punk looked more pained than Jay did. He
landed hard on his lower back. He was clutching his back.
He hurt himself more than he did Jay. So they
exchanged blows. Punk got him up for another GTS. Jay
slipped out and he delivered a superkick that sent Punk
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out to the floor, and then Jay followed with a
suicide dive and he wiped out Punk, and at least
at this point in the match, Jay looked like he
actually had some life to him. Again. I don't know
what was going on in the first half of this match,
fucking out of it, but he was starting to, I
don't know, get to get a second wind, I guess.
So they made it back into the ring to break
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the count. Punk, though, fell back out to the floor,
so Jay went outside. He was measuring him, and he
goes and he spears Punk through the timekeeper's barricade. Well,
there's a spot that we don't see enough of. Again,
he's trying to be Roman Reigns here in this match.
So he spears him right through the barricade. J picks
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him up, he dumps him back into the ring. He
heads up top again for an USO splash. This time
they'll Punk got the knees up. Punk hoists him up
and he hits the GTSS and Punk covers him and
J kicks out it two. Punk then looks for a
pile driver. J though countered out of it into a
GTS of his own. Jay hit the ropes, but now
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Punk cuts him down with a spear, a very weak spear,
and he covers him, but only for two. That may
have honestly been the worst spear I have ever seen
in all my life. Seem Punk should never ever do
that again. So Jay staggered back to his feet, Punk
hoisted him up hit another GTS. Jay bounced off the
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ropes basically fell backwards, and then he landed back on
top of Punk. So he was going to go for
another GTS, but Jay suddenly came to life and he
got punked down in the sleeperhole, the same sleeper hole
that he beat Gun through with to win the world
title of WrestleMania. I love how Jay just completely no
soul the GTS here, so now he's got this sleeper
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hole applied. Punk then counters out into an Anacon device,
but Jay got to the bottom rope for the break.
Jay got a quick crucifix pen attempt only for two
two super kicks by USO. He came in for the spear.
Punk though kicked him another GTS. He picked him up
again for yet another GTS. The finisher spem here was
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very crazy, and Punk finally got the pin to win
the World Heavyweight Championship and CM Punk is now According
to Michael Cole, he is now a seven time World
Heavyweight Champion, or so they say. They are not counting
his ECW World title run. They are not counting either, obviously,
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they're not counting either of his AW title runs or
Ring of Honor run. So in terms of the WWE
main roster and all the different variations of the World
Championship over the years that he's held outside of ECW,
he's a seven time World Champion. So the referee hands
the belt to Punk. Jay is just sitting on the
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floor outside. There was nothing with Jimmy. Jimmy was there.
They showed Jimmy. He was kind of sparring and helping Jay,
you know, get ready for the match earlier in the back,
but he didn't come out with him. He didn't come
out after the match. He didn't get involved in the match.
Punk gets on the ropes with the championship. They set
off a bunch of pyro behind him in the background,
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and that's how they went off the air. So again
no Jimmy Usso, no vision, the bronze were not there.
That shocked me that they made no appearance whatsoever. They
did not get involved in this. They did not even
attempt to get involved in this. They played it straight.
They played this right down the middle to keep the
focus on Punk's title win and ideally they would have
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dragged this out longer, but again the circumstances with the
John Cena tournament made that impossible. So if someone had
to win this and walk out of Salt Lake City
as the champion, I'm glad it was CM Punk and
not Jay Uso. Jay had his run. I don't really
have any and again I don't have anything against jay Uso.
I do think that he gets a lot of undue hate.
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My issue is not with him personally or having a
push because he's very over. I do not want to
see Jay Uso as world heavyweight champion. I certainly do
not want to see Jay Uso as World heavyweight champion
if it's going to be, you know, mostly consisting of
matches like what we saw in the first half of
this match here tonight. I did not like this match. Now,
it did get better, got a little bit better as
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the match went on, but to me, this was the
worst thing on the entire show, not even close. The
worst thing on the entire show. Like the Jade match
was was intentionally short and dominant, so that was a
little bit different. The opening match was good, The Triple
Threat match was good. I thought that was the best
part of the show, and this was easily the weakest.
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I don't know what was going on. It was again,
it was just a sloppy mess in the first half,
and Jay just looked slow and gassed and just out
of it. And this was the beginning of the match.
It's not as if he was selling like a long
match and he's drained, and it's like, dude, this like
the first fucking five minutes of the match, Like, what's
going on here? So I don't know what was going
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on there, but you know, both men have had better
matches than what we saw here on this show. Bron
Breaker will have his time. Bron Breaker will be the
world heavyweight champion. They have their plans for when that's
going to be and what that's going to look like,
and even seth Rollin's getting hurt is not going to
disrupt those plans, right, Injuries be damned. They're going to
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stay the course and they're going to save that for
whenever that may be, probably sometime next year. So now
we wait and see if Punk is going to end
up in war Games tagging with Roman Reigns and the Ussos,
or if they're going to go a completely different way
with that Wargames match. No surprises on this show. They
played it exactly the way that I expected them to.
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Punk wins the title, Jade wins the title, Cody retains,
Dom retains, and then the only real addition was the
John Cena stuff, you know, where we got to learn
what their plans are for not even Survivor series before
what they plan on doing as far as his final
opponent is concerned. It never felt like a pl E
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even though it was on Peacock. You know, we think
about these things when they're streaming on Peacock or they're
streaming on ESPN. It's premium live event, right because this
is not on NBC anymore, it's not on TV anymore.
This was not a pl this As I said earlier,
it was like a souped up version of Raw or
SmackDown where we got some good matches. It was a
newsworthy show because we have a new world champion, a
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new women's champion, and the John Cena announcement. That'll be
the real news coming out. Nothing more, nothing less. But
I appreciate the lack of commercials during the actual matches.
That'll be the nice thing about these shows being on Peacock.
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What did you think of it? Utah Saturday Night's Main Events.
CM Punk becomes World heavyweight Champion in Salt Lake City.
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Probably not the way most people would have envisioned that happening,
But people get hurt and you got to come up
with a plan B, and this was their plan B.
That's how it goes. Bash says they need to move
all the WWE shows to ESPN so I can cancel Peacock. Well,
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you still got the NXT shows on here as well.
If you care, start with Holiday one ninety seven, says sadly,
I think Cody's keeping the title until WrestleMania to defend
against Randy. Cody's latest run has been milk toast. The
Cody Randy match already happened at King of the Ring.
(01:10:56):
Not interested in their feud. Boy, Yeah, that was That's
sort of forgotten about, isn't it. That's right? They did
wrestle in the finals of the King of the Ring.
Uh toya with a five? What if brock Lesner causes
the win for both Punk and Jay? What if brock
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Lesner causes the win? Just a thought. I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what you meet? What you mean both
Punk and Jane. Well, obviously brock Lesner did not get involved,
but if he did, it would not have been to
help both men. It would have been to kill both men.
Brock Lesner was not showing up on a Saturday Nights
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main event in Salt Lake City, Utah. That was not
going to happen. We got the real cso two Drew
got screwed again. What kind of shit? What kind of
shit show is nick All this running over there on SmackDown?
I think Nick doesn't want him to be champion? So
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is the plan that we're gonna get a Drew McIntyre
nick All this match? Instead of him becoming world champion,
he gets to wrestle the GM. That'd be a great
step up for him. Faith Beers, says RAKESHI weeps to night. Yeah,
best wishes to Rikkechi. I know he had I think
some kind of major surgery recently and seems to be
(01:12:24):
doing well. But hopefully he is okay. Super Pony. That
was Jay's best match. Punk is him? Also, Drew is
the loser. If you think that was Jay's best match,
then you haven't seen very many Jay Uso matches. He
has had better matches than the one he had tonight.
I did not like that match at all. Holiday one
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ninety seven. We need to see riskier moves around the
booking of the main title pictures, first Kevin Owens and
now Drew McIntyre, who should have had recent runs, even
if for one to three months they've been overlooked in
favor of playing things safe. Well, hey, they have their
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promo photos and posters and everything with the champion on
them done months in advance. You can't fuck up their
promotional photos now, Okay, probably have Cody in those photos
at least through April Duff's VIDs. How do you make
one disappear? Put a g in it? That's right, and
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then they're gone? Who told you that? One? Who told
you that? One? Toya says Saturday Night's main event was okay,
no surprises, no shock in awe. Hey, I'm not saying
these shows need to be shock in awe, but there's
certainly there's some things they could have done to make
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things a little more interesting. Not to do so. Jimmy,
watching the review on a phone while on a ship
in the Caribbean possibly the first super chat while at sea,
did not watch Saturday Nights Made Event. For the record,
I wouldn't either if I was on the fucking ship
in the Caribbean. Saturday Nights Made event would be the
(01:14:19):
last thing on my mind. Well, Jimmy, I hope you
enjoy your trip. I'd love to be in the Caribbean
right now. I could use a vacations. My nephew put
his shoes on the wrong feet. I don't know where
he got those wrong feet from. How does an Englishman
(01:14:40):
invite a dinosaur for drinks? T Rex t rex? I
get it. Also, where do you take your dog if
it loses its tail? To the retail store? Naturally? Jeremy Rose,
(01:15:02):
this show was cookie cutter as fuck. There's never any
creativity in these shows. Every match out come is simply
the easiest boring result. I can't disagree. That's sort of
the state of WWE today, the sheltered kid. You think
Samantha Irvin will ever come back to WWE? I mean,
(01:15:26):
I can't say she'll never go back, but I don't
think she has any interest in going back now. Not
for a very very long time. She wasn't happy there.
They didn't get rid of her, She got rid of them.
She has aspirations to do other things in wrestling that
WWE didn't want her doing, so I don't see any
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reason for her to go back Ragnarok for seeing his
final opponent. I'm still hoping for Obafemi. If they don't
debut him there, then maybe in the Rumble and get Well,
they're not debuting him there because he would have to
debut in the tournament first, so it's not like he
would be first debuting on that show in DC. He
would have to win the tournament. If not there, then
(01:16:08):
maybe in the Rumble and give him the monster spot. Yeah,
that would be fine. Give him, like, you know, twelve
or thirteen elimed. Who has the record? Is it Roman?
I think Roman has the record. I want to say
thirteen eliminations. Maybe give him fourteen. Actually, don't give him fourteen.
I think that would be lame as fuck. That's too
many people. But let him go in there and destroy
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a bunch of people. That works. Jeremy says, why do
you think the ring had no ads tonight? Usually the
ring has five plus ads turnbuckle ads. Didn't even have
slim gym tables? Are they try? You know? I didn't
even notice they had a giant Saturday Nights made of
vent logo in the middle of the ring. Now that
(01:16:52):
I think about it, the ring actually did look cleaner.
Are they charging two much? Yes, I would say so.
Apparently they were very disappointed with the tickets. I don't
know about tonight, but they were in Salt Lake City
for SmackDown last night and they were very disappointed. I
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think fightful mention that good good. I hope they start
to feel pain when it comes to their tickets. I
don't know that it's going to change their viewpoint on
how much they should be charging for them, but I
hope they start to feel some real pain because that
might be the only way that they decide to bring
things down a little bit. But that just seems very
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unlikely to me right now. I don't think that they
want to bring it down. I think they want to
drive it up even more. Duff's vid says, why is
Elevator music just okay? Because it's got its ups and downs?
Stephen B Cody match was the worst? And well, I disagree.
(01:17:56):
And Breaker can win the title at the Royal Rumble. Uh,
Royal Rumble. That's interesting, you know you could Yeah, I
agree with you on that, because you could do that
match Breaker could win the championship at the Royal Rumble.
You know, if they want him winning the title in Saudi.
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He could win the title there and Punk could still
win the Rumble itself or the Elimination Chamber and then
feud with Cody going into WrestleMania. Then you could do
bron Breaker and Roman reigns at WrestleMania, which again that
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doesn't have to be for the championship, but if Braun
was the champion, I think him defending against Roman and
beating him, you would have to beat him. That is
definitely a WrestleMania worthy match. Jeremy says, so every WWE
champion has aew roots shaking my head Tony Kahn, Well, well,
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we have World Heavyweight Champion Cmpunk, we have WWE Champion
Cody Rhods. We have Women's Champion Jade Cargill. You want
to expand it out to NXT, We've got NXT Champion
Ricky Saints, NXT Women's North American Champion Blake Monroe, and
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NXT Men's North American Champion Ethan Page. That's a lot
of former AW talents that are holding gold right now
in WWA. Bobby's World with the twenty one just chilling.
Tonight got a notification join Sola Monster for Saturday Night's
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main event review me. Oh yeah, that was tonight. Oh well,
solo's stream is all that matters. So here I am
Bobby c. Bobby knows where it's at. Bobby knows where
it's at. Bobby doesn't even have to watch Saturday Night
made of it. He just has to show up for
the stream. Steph you want to count stephan You know what.
I guess you could count Stephanie too. Stephanie appeared in
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AW as well. That's that's right. Forgot about that. I
mean she was never really a part of AW though,
so technically really shouldn't be counting her. Sean Nilsen, Tiffy
time is over. No, you see, it's taffy time. Taffy
time is over. Did you notice, by the way, in
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the video package before the match, when they had that
SoundBite from SmackDown last night, they cut that part out
where she said taffy and they just kept time. She
says your time is over. It's like, oh man, they
cut the taffy out. Colin once again, Triple Safe did
his standard Saturday Night's main event pl e booking tonight
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once again, Russe beats a huge slice of Jeff Jobber pie. Uh,
how's it taste Duff's bids. I had a strange dream
last night. I dreamt I was in an ocean, but
it was orange soda instead of blue sea water. Turned
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out to be a Fanta see a Fanta joke, really
a Fanta joke for shame Duff's bids. Jeremy Rose Punk
with the mic drop posting pick of him and of him, Jade,
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Cody Ricky showing their world titles. Gotta love wrestling even
when the show is boring? Did he post that I
haven't seen that yet? Super Pony Cody versus Drew had
the exact same finish as Ko against Cody from Saturday
Nights Made have had last year. The only difference is
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Cody used the belt instead of the chair. Lazy booking
John Johnson name a single one versus one Jay Usso
match better than Warrior Savage or Warrior Hogan at WrestleMania.
Jay still having cardio issues twelve months after the World
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Heavyweight Championship win is alarming. Yeah, I don't know. I
don't know. I don't know. If it's nerves, I don't know,
but he did not look good in the first half
of that match. Holliday said they need to draft. They
need a draft to move some tag teams to Raw
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and some women's wrestlers to smack down and to mix
up the men's mid slash uppercard scenes on both shows.
They definitely need to shake up. They definitely need to
shake up Holy Shit Wrestling. Jade does the psycho clown
face rip off spot by grabbing it both sides of
her scaro Eh super pony. Who's getting paid more to
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eat pins? Drew or finn Oh? Definitely Drew. You know,
when Drew signed his new contract, the Rock presented him
or had him presented with like a sword. It's like
a signing bonus. I can only imagine what that new
contract was for. I'm guessing it's more than I'm sure
Balor makes good coin too, but I'm sure Drew probably
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got the better end of that. It would be my guess.
Holliday thoughts on WWE using AI to write storylines instead
of using people. That is not what they're doing and
hopefully they never will. I think that would be terrible
bass beerus. Jay's lazy needs to coordinate his matches better. Also,
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Jay looks utterly lost when not doing his routine too much.
Yeating last Night. Maybe that's what it was, Alexander. WWE
needs to stop treating the WWE title like a Faberge egg.
It's okay for the belt to switch hands and give
someone else a chance to sit on the throne. Oh,
(01:24:15):
don't say egg around these parts. Remember Vincent, His golden
egg brings back bad memories. No eggs, super pony, Yes,
another super chat about Drew losing? Can't you tell I'm
upset about? Oh? I could tell. I could tell who's
a bigger loser, him, Kevin Owens or La Knight. Well,
(01:24:38):
I mean I was gonna say La Knight. But considering
Drew has been crying about this since Clash at the
Castle it was three years ago, I have inclined to
go with Drew. Jeremy Rose. When I said are they
charging too much? I meant for ads? I know tickets
they are assuming no company wanted to pay to advertise tonight. No,
(01:25:03):
I don't know that that's the issue. There's always going
to be sponsors that are willing to pay to get
their their logo out there. I don't know. I don't
know why they didn't have ads tonight. You know the
ads that you see on RAW. That's a raw thing
with Netflix and slim Gym is the title sponsor. So
every Monday night, the slim Gym logo is right in
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the middle, and you have all those additional logos in
each corner these shows. You know, this is an NBC
universal thing, and it was on NBC up until recently.
I don't know if maybe there were you know, there's
certain terms in the contract that because now that I
think about it, I don't know that they've had ads
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on previous Saturday nights made event like in the Ring,
and maybe they did, just offhand, I don't I don't
recall them having them. Paul Carpenter, do you think Triple
H and TKO is more worried about Triple A and
other projects more than his own company and not worried
about more in house problems. I think TRIPLEH is too
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busy trying to up his own profile. I think he's
involved in a lot of different things right now, and
maybe he is taking his eye off the ball a
little bit. Ozen Glorias says, I know five people who
got comped tickets for themselves and a plus one from
seg Slash Delta Center for both nights here in Salt
(01:26:30):
Lake City also saw a clip of a neck breaker
Punk is Shit. Yeah, that was not Punk's fault. I
got news for you, but I wouldn't be surprised if
they were doing some sort of ticket deal. They did
not sell well for last night, and I don't think
they did very well tonight either. I don't know what
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the update was. I'm sure the number was higher by now,
but I know as of a week ago, they didn't
even have five thousand tickets sold for tonight's show, and
it could be waning interest in the product, but I
think more than that, it just has to do with
these prices that they're charging at some point. Right, It's
not every show is going to be like this, and
it might be market specific. It will depend on what
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market you're in. Raw is coming to Boston and is
coming to Madison Square Garden in a few weeks now.
They have the crutch of being able to advertise that
that's going to be John Cena's final appearance in those cities,
So of course they've they've sold eleven twelve thousand tickets,
you know, the tickets to Madison Square Garden. I don't
know if it's sold out, but they're selling like crazy,
(01:27:34):
and they'll sell in DC for his final match. But
when John Cena is gone, right and you don't have
that one big attraction, are they going to be able
to continue to sustain these numbers and sell ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen thousand tickets to these television shows every single week?
At what point do they really begin feeling pain? You know,
from these price points, that's the question, you know, and
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I think you're already starting to see signs of it
in some of these markets. It's not a mass problem
for them yet, but it could be a harbinger of
things to come. Absolutely, you know, you get too greedy
and that's what happens. Eventually, it bites you in the ass.
All right, we hit the main goal, so let's go
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ahead and be the booker. Ladies and gentlemen, It is
now time to be the booker. Oh man, Saturday Night's
main events. Sucks that I had to work during the
World Series. Apparently there's a hell of a game going on.
I really wanted to watch that game. Oh well, thanks WWA.
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All right, here we go, tag team, be the booker.
Let's do it. We got the headshrinkers more samoans can't
get away from them. Got Samu and Fatu, the former
tag team champions, keeping the blood line alive here and
be the booker. They are going to be taking on
the street profits in what I believe would actually be
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a pretty good match. So I'm going to give that
match the bell. So we got the tag team match
out of the way. Now we got our women's match
to book, and we have Mia yim is starting us
off here in women's be the booker. The Mets should
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run out and cash in. Brother, do you know what
would happen if the Mets ran out with their money
in the bank to cash out right now or cash out?
They would cash out to cash in. They would fucking lose.
That's what would happen. The Baron Corbyn of Major League Baseball.
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All right, we got Mia Yim against Kyrie Saye. Look
at that insane elbow right there. It's a thing of beauty.
And now our main event, Oh my god, well we
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have the great Kalie. Should we even bother choosing an opponent?
Perhaps we should. Perhaps I will give him at least
the benefit of choosing an opponent and finding out who
it is. But I don't think it's going to change
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my mind. Well, the great Kalie against Penta, and I
do love Penta, but it did not in fact change
my mind, and so ends be the booker, not the outcome.
I was hoping for. What was his nickname, the Punjabi
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playboy or am I tripping now? I think they called
him the Punjabi playboy and he would come out and
dance right. He was like a ladies man. All the girls,
all the divas would dance with him. Poor Penta. What
pent is gonna be doing? The cetro mia though, like
every five seconds in that Matt just to keep the
crowd invested. You imagine him giving him a Mexican Destroyer
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or a Penta driver. Yeah, I don't think that's gonna work.
His usual offense is not going to work on the
great colleague solo who wins the game? Call it right now,
I'm not even watching the game. I have no idea
what's going on other than apparently it's tied in the
ninth inning. I'm just going I'm gonna say the Blue
Jays without any knowledge of what's going on right now,
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I'm gonna say the blue Jays. Actually, on that note,
I'm gonna see if I could check out the end
of his game. So I'm going to see you tomorrow
for episode nine thirty six of The sound Off. So
come on back, check out that podcast support Let's try
to get us to number one on the charts this week.
Go back and check out the Halloween show from last night,
Macho Monster. Oh yeah, we had a lot of fun
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last night. And I will see you for episode nine
thirty six of The sound Off coming up tomorrow. Take care,