December 9, 2025 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro
American student organization in the country, fighting for the future
of our republic.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
If the most important thing for you is just feeling good,
you're gonna end up miserable. But if the most important
thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is
a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids
to college. You should get married as young as possible
and have as many kids as possible. Go start at
turning point, you would say college chapter. Go Start at
turning point youould say high school chapter. Go find out
(00:36):
how your church can get involved.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sign up and become an activist.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade,
most important decision I ever made in my life, and
I encourage you to do the same. Here I am.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Lord, Use me.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show
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Speaker 2 (01:09):
All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
We take your questions on and ask us anything otherwise
known as an AMA, but now it's us and we
do that in Charlie's honor because that's what he did.
So first up, we have and by the way, if
you want to become a part of this, you'll see
that url under there members dot Charliekirk dot com. Become
a member, you get to take part in our AMAS
(01:31):
and you get to be part of the live show
and the podcast, and you also get a lot of
other benefits. And we have Amfest coming up and we're
going to be doing members lounges where you get to
if you're coming to Amfest, where you get to see
private interviews with you know, just the people in that
room before they go live with some of the biggest
names and influencers and history makers newsmakers in the country.
(01:55):
And yes there it is America Fest Amfest twenty twenty
five coming up in just a few weeks in Phoenix,
Arizona at the Convention Center, and this will be the
biggest one ever, all in Charlie's honor, all remembering Charlie
and of course taking action, action, action, because that's what
it's about. First up, for our Ama Blake, we have
Brandon Brandon, mute yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Hey guys, can you hear me?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We can. Yes.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So my question is about the AMA's actually, So I
was just wonder like the history of them, you know, when,
why how did they start? Because to my knowledge, like
you guys are the only show that does it and
definitely the only show that does it this way live.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, I could give a little brief history lesson on that.
So it goes back to when we started on radio
national radio show. There was basically, you know, I think
a pressure or push the way that they used to
do radio. I think some people still do where they
would roll callers and Charlie just had so much to
(02:58):
say all the time that he wanted to do a show.
He wanted to actually had things he wanted to say
and get accomplished, and so he just he but he
realized He's like, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm
going to put it into one hour where and it
will just make it a standing invitation where we're going
to have people send us their questions and so we.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That's kind of how it happened.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It was an impulse that Charlie had to do it
because instead of doing callers intermittently throughout the week or whatever,
he wanted to just condense it and to put it
in one one section so that he could focus more
closely on it, and then he could use the rest
of the show to kind of get accomplished everything else
that he wanted to get accomplished. So but the other
thing I would say to this is Charlie loved doing
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AMAS because of the feedback loop with the audience. So
it gave him an opportunity to hear directly from you guys,
and he's he was a voracious email reader. So freedom
at Charliekirk dot com, Freedom at Charliekirk dot com going
to keep pumping that forever because it is the firewall
to truth and freedom.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And I said this at the memorial.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Actually, I don't know if Blake remembers this, but you know,
it was kind of this.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Idea that he he would.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Go meet with all these fancy people and the elites,
if you will, and you know, the donor class, because
that's part of the job running a Big C three
and a Big C four, and they would tell him, oh, this,
that and the other, the country needs this, and oh
the base doesn't know what they what they want, and
he would he would have a direct firewall to those
types of conversations because he was so in touch with
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the audience. He was so in touch with the people
that listen to the show and the bass and the grassroots,
and so you know, for all of those reasons and more,
we will we will keep doing that in Charlie's honor.
I don't know, Blake, if you had anything you want
to add to that.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Or only that. When I got here, I think we
were already on AMA, probably about one hundred, so it
must have been going about two years at that point. So, uh,
now we're at I just checked. We're at this is
AMA number two forty six. Though I'm in title, I'm
in charge of titling a lot of these episodes, and
I've probably double counted a number somewhere in there, or
(05:03):
we had a special one that didn't get a number.
Lots of that, but yeah, we're going. We've had five
years of these. Charlie loved them, and as you said, Andrew,
he loved both just how varied it was. He got
to talk about scripture, he got to talk about history,
he got to talk about politics, he got to talk
about stuff behind the scenes. He got to talk about
his family, talked about talk about the Sabbath, like what
(05:25):
his new upcoming book is. He loved the variety, He
loved that human contact. It was. It was something that
gave him a lot of joy. And I always I
love to quote, yeah, you know from the poem if
you know, if you can converse with kings, nor lose
the common touch. And Charlie could take a phone call
from the President one minute and then take a phone
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call from one of you the next minute, and he
would take both very seriously. And it was one of
his his greatest assets, one of his greatest traits. And
we're onred to continue it.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, I want to read from Daisy because this is
pretty funny. This is actually probably how it actually went down.
From what I remember, Charlie said to me, I want
live callers tomorrow and then he said, okay, do this
every single week.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Lol.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
That's from That's from days and that That is actually
very emblematic of a lot of things at turning point
and at the show, where we would kind of just
try something and if it worked, if he liked it,
he would keep it. And and you know, building the
plane as it's taking off, if you will. So there
was a pretty like organic piece of that and that
does feel feel right to me. And then over time
we kind of threw a new twist and we brought
(06:30):
in the members dot Charliekirk dot com for people to
join the members portal as well, So it just kind
of kept evolving.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I remember the AMA used to be mostly emails correct,
and then we made it the did we make it
the member call because we were launching members, Yeah, and
we were always trying. He always wanted to have callers.
I think a lot of it, yeah, because he loved
Rush and Rush took callers. He loved continuing that legacy.
And I remember we kept trying to just take callers
(06:59):
in the middle of normal segments that was going on
in a lot when I first started, and people might
remember a little awkward. We'd try it and there were
always technical issues. It was so funny. So I'm very
glad we got it nailed down with these amas, because
we've had a lot of very memorable calls the past
two years we've been doing it this way.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, Next up, Jonathan, Welcome to the show. Jonathan.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Good to be here.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So have you guys invited Dennis Prager and Larry Elder.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So in years past we have had both of those
gentlemen obviously, Larry or Dennis Prager is you know, still
recovering from his injuries and I don't know. I haven't
checked in recently. I know Erica has, but I think
I think Dennis is still sort of bedbound.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
He's expected to get his mobility back. I'm not sure,
but we remained close with Dennis, and like I said,
Erica has has spoken with him recently, and he's a
great mentor of Charlie's and has been to so many
Turning Point events. And then Larry, Larry's been to a
bunch of Turning Point events, He's done his radio show
from Turning Point events. We love Larry, have a long,
(08:06):
long friendship and relationship with him. He's not going to
be at this year simply because probably we you know,
after Charlie was assassinated, a couple of things happened. We
got flooded. Everybody bought tickets to Amfest. We had to
turn the ticketing off, and again we're very sorry that
we had to do that. We would love to take
everybody candidly, the event would probably twice as big.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
If we didn't turn ticketing off.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But what also happened was a lot of speakers, a
lot of big name you know, movement leaders and politicians
reached out and wanted to be a part of the event,
and it filled up almost instantly. We already had some
book before September tenth, and then but then, you know,
after what happened, it just took on a life of
(08:53):
its own, and so this is sure to be the
largest and most crowded speakerless that we have ever had
at Amfest to probably any other event.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Since he asked about Dennis, I just want to flag
because I think it's a very moving tribute that this
book stop in the name of God, all about the Sabbath.
The dedication this book is dedicated to Dennis Prager. Your
life's work brought me to honoring the Sabbath. As a result,
I wrote this book. Thank you, Dennis for all you
(09:25):
have done for humanity. God bless you. I can't imagine
Charlie ever thought Dennis would outlive him, but that's the
way it came to pass. But he did. I remember
that that he told me, you know, he wanted to
write this book. Dennis inspired him so much to do it.
I think he worked with him on the actual process
of writing the book as well, and he left it
(09:47):
as a great tribute to his friend. And this book
is a tribute to Charlie as well.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Now stop in the name I got it.
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myphdweightloss dot com. Blake, we just talked about Amfest and
unfortunately this year is sold out, but you can already
pre buy tickets for next year, which is a huge thing,
and you get a discounted price if you do that now.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So that's one thing.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
But I don't think we've made enough of this on
this show, and that we had a big speaker announcement
this week, and that is JD Vance will be joining
us at Amfest.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
If you want to throw up image eight.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
JD Vance is a confirmed speaker featured speaker at Amfest
twenty twenty five in Phoenix, Arizona, December eighteenth through the
twenty first. And that is a big deal. But if
you are not able to join, say you have you waited,
you didn't get your tickets. The whole thing will be
streaming live on Rumble dot com.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Rumble dot com you show image seven h so you can.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
We have a deal with Rumble where they would be
streaming the entire thing so you can always be a
part of the action. I know the war room, Posse,
Bannon's going to be there, many many other media outlets.
It's gonna be this thing's gonna be bonkers, folks.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Blake, Yeah, no, it's great.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
We have some clips from JD. I thought you were
going to jump in there.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Oh oh, sorry about that. No, like we have uh,
let's see which is the best one that we have here.
We're very we're very excited to have JD. Yeah, let's
play two seventy one.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Under the Biden administration, the average American family lost over
three thousand dollars of household income, and under the first
ten months of this Trump administration, they have gained over
one thousand.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Dollars of household income.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
What that says very clearly is that we are fixing
the problem that Joe Biden and the Democrats created in
the last administration.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
And I think JD really in I would just say JD.
Over the past year especially, he has really grown into
this role that Charlie envisioned for him. This is why
Charlie was such a JD fan. We've told the very
funny story of how we endorsed him for Senate immediately,
and it was actually we jumped the gun a bit
and before Charlie could contact donors and explain why we're
(13:34):
doing this, And it's a very funny story. But he
always was a big believer in JD. From basically the
moment he entered politics. He always thought he had a
huge amount of potential. People would say, Charlie, do you
plan to enter politics? And one of the things one
of the answers he would say it was always I
don't need to because I know the things I care about.
Are squared away with JD as such a rising star,
(13:57):
and he was so happy with how he's performed as
Vice President, becoming this spokesperson for the administration for its vision,
this person who can perpetuate what makes Maga maga for
years on end. And so we're super excited to have
him at America Fest. We've seen over and over how
much how much JD loved Charlie, how he was a
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friend to Charlie, and we want to maintain that friendship
as much as possible growing forward, going forward, and we
encourage everyone if you're not able to attend anfest, you
can watch all the speeches online and get yourself fired
up and come next year, especially if you are on
the waiting list this time, you get a discount for
next year's And that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Be there, Be there next year, Yeah, exactly, be there.
We have another question from Robert. Robert, welcome to the show.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
Hey, can you guys hear me?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Yes? We can?
Speaker 8 (14:49):
Yes, Oh great, Yeah, my question, I've got a couple
of things. My question is is why don't you partner
up with Angel Films and do a biopic lift about
Charlie's life? I mean, really get some aid listers. I
know Chris Pratt is a Christian. I don't think he
would be the right person played Charlie. Of course that's
not my domain, but I think that that would be
something that would really be groundbreaking. It would renew everybody's
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burned it down in the dumps feeling. I never met Charlie.
I know that you guys, of course, were dear friends
with them and colleagues, but I will say that I
miss him every day. I can't tell you what a
bright light this young man was, and at what a
young age he was able to accomplish what he did.
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And I really believe that that was because that was
a God given thing that he was put here at
this time to make these kinds of changes and to
bring this visibility out. And the other thing is is
that I founded five companies, I took a couple of
public made a lot of money. I've lost a lot
(15:57):
of money. And during the Biden years it took I
kind of retired out of tech when Trump got in,
and then it took me five years to get a
job in tech, and mainly because of the H one visas.
I really believe that you guys have got to get
hardcore about this visa thing.
Speaker 9 (16:19):
It is.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
I can't tell you how many people who have the
experience I have who can't even get a resume looked at.
I mean, I sent out hundreds thousands of job applications
and finally got hired about nine months. Well, I got
hired two weeks after Trump got in.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Blake, you want to take a stab at Robert's question
about this?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Yeah, So Robert had two questions. We will hit the
more fun one. First, he asked about whether you know
if we would work with Angel Studios on a Charlie biopic.
It's way above my pay grade on that question. Obviously.
Whether any film is made about Charlie is a question
for Erica to decide, and I have no idea what
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offers she's received in that way, what her own thinking
on this is. I genuinely just don't know. I think
my suspicion is it's probably very likely we'll get one eventually,
because Charlie is just such an icon to so many people,
and his life it truly has a cinematic quality to it.
He built something so immense and so successful from such
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a young age, from nothing, really came from no strong
political background, no establishment background. It was just his pure energy,
his force of will. He drew people to himself. He
made people believe in his mission and just the faith
angle as well. His faith grew throughout his life, and
he truly died a martyr. I have to imagine I
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very much understand why so many people think a film
of it would be good. It is very funny. I
just do have to say I did chuckle at the
suggestive Chris Pratt because I checked, and Chris Pratt is
forty six years old. It would be very There'd be
something interesting about him playing a person who was fifteen
years younger than him when he passed. But I don't know.
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How do you feel about it, Andrew? Would it be
On the other hand, would it be too real? Would
it be would there be something fake about seeing someone
else play a man that you know both of us?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean, listen, here's here.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Here's what I'll tell you is that it's probably going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
The question is how.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And I think there might be multiple, because I can
already tell you on the documentary side, there's going to
be multiple.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
There already are a few.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I think Daily Caller just released one that they that
they did. The folks behind the art of the Surge
are doing one because they traveled with Charlie to Greenland
and they had a bunch of footage from behind the scenes.
So on the on the dock side, we're gonna have that.
And then of course Turning Point, USA, the team is
has has more footage than anybody.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I mean, the team followed.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Charlie around for years and you know, I was always
sort of wondering, why why is this camera going I
never see this footage. Well now we have this amazing,
amazing storehouse of just never before seen footage of Charlie.
So that is something the team is working on as
well on the Turning Point side, and so that's gonna happen.
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And I know that there are people that have already
contacted me and us about making films into Blake's point,
it's kind of all in Erica's that's a decision for
her to make, and you know, we sort of entrust
that with her, and I know she's talking with really
great people and so we'll see what happens with that.
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Speaker 5 (20:35):
So the second half of Robert's question, because we also
want to hit that is he asked about h one bees,
he I believe. I don't know if we still have him,
but I think he said it took him five years
to get a job in a tech related field, and
that's a field where we're told we have a huge
talent shortage, and so that's why we need so many
H oneb's. Hundreds of thousands of people have come to
America as h one bees. For those who have forgotten
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to remind you, the H one B visa is a
skilled worker visa. It is for companies that say they
have a position that cannot be filled by an American worker,
so they need to bring in someone from abroad. It's
become extremely popular in Silicon Valley, and it's certainly become
very controversial. A lot of people have called for ending
(21:18):
it outright or radically curtailing it. President Trump himself has
defended it. He defended it in the case of, for example,
we've been building these chip plants in the United States
and He's said, well, you're going to need these foreign
ship experts to get these plants up and running, otherwise
it's just not going to happen. And there's something to
be said for that. But there is also a very
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real fact. We have gotten addicted to this and that addiction,
like any other addiction in your own personal life, it
makes us weaker over time, and it makes it hard
to break. We have damaged America's ability to be skilled
in highly technical fields because of H one b's. It's
lowered the amount of it's lowered the salaries and a
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lot of those fields so they're less appealing than going
into something like law or medicine, where there's more of
a barrier to foreign competition. And it's made it so
there's companies that have just gotten used to Oh, rather
than having to train up American workers who are fresh
out of college, we can take these people who have
three years of experience from abroad and we don't have
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to do any training. Saves us money and makes it
all easier for us. And it's a complicated thing that
we're going to need. I think we should dial back
H one well, I definitely think we should dial back
H one b's, maybe even have the goal of ending
it entirely. But we do need to have a plan
for how we're going to, for example, incentivized companies and
say we will encourage you to train employees fresh out
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of college or even fresh out of high school, so
that you have an incentive to teach Americans to do
this job rather than just rely on foreigners to do it.
Another thing I'd point out is it's not just H
one be's. It's become the symbol of this problem, but
there's a lot of other visas out there, so we
need a total spectrum. Look. One that's known is the OPT.
It's not quite a visa. It's called Optional Practical Training,
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and it's a program that's available for foreign students where
they can stay in America longer working in a job
related to their field of study. And there's been whole
cases where companies like Microsoft have used this as a
shadow H one B program to get more foreign workers
without getting H one b's. So it's definitely a massive
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issue for America. It's one Charlie was very aware of.
It's one I told him a lot about. I was saying,
this is bubbling up badly. People have become really aware
that their job opportunities are getting hobbled because we continue
to bring in a lot of foreign workers, and especially
now that the border has been secured, people are looking
at the other sources of immigration. Related problems in American life.
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So you're absolutely correct. It's a thing we need to
talk about. It's a thing Vice President Vance has talked
a lot about. He might even talk about it at
America Fests to definitely tune into that. Do you have
anything to say on that end?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, I want to add two things. One that you
know Robert was having trouble getting interviews even but it
took him years to get hired. And one thing I
would just say is one of a problem that has
been reported widely when it comes to H one bs
is that you have once you some of these cultures
that you bring in. Now, remember I'll just state stating
the facts. Seventy percent of H one b's go to Indians,
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another ten to fifteen percent go to the Chinese, and
eighty percent of H one bvs is go to for
entry level jobs. So these are this is a direct
problem assault on the youngest Americans that are getting it
just getting into the workforce. So it's a huge, huge issue.
But one of the things you notice is that and
I've heard this just repeatedly, Robert. I don't know if
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you have an anecdote that would underscore this, but they
tend to hire other people from their culture. So if
you hire if one of these h one b's rises
through the ranks, they become a hiring manager. They tend
to hire other people that are closer in cultural affinities
or affiliations to themselves. And so that's not necessarily a
(25:04):
good thing for native born Americans either. So that there's
multiple problems. Some are cultural, some are structural that are
injected into the system when you are addicted to foreign labor.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
It's just the facts.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Should we take the next one, Let's take Gina's question. Gina,
welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. What's your question?
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Hey, thanks, guys, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Okay, yes we can, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Okay. My heart's broken with the things that are going
on with Candace, and I'm trying to make it all
come together. I'm sure I'm not your only fan that
is trying to do that because of the relationship that
she had with Charlie. And one thing that I'm just
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trying to make come together in my head is fly
The invitation was extended to Candace, but not to Candace directly. Blake,
I think you tweeted something out and I don't know
if you know, I don't know what's truth and what's not.
But I do know that she said she didn't even
see the invitation and it was issued Blake, I think
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at twelve on a tweet that you had, but at
midnight twelve, not noon midnight, And so it was like
nine hours later before she even knew that you said
anything about her attending the show. And then she's saying
she can't attend in person, can she attend on a
live stream or you know, and you guys do live
streams all the time, And is that I'm trying to
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make this come together.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Of course, So first of all, our initial statement it
was on the show on Wednesday, I made it at
the request of Erica. All of this has been at
the direction and approval of Erica because she had this,
and so what we were announcing there, as we said,
she has said things that are not true, and we
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did not address them for a long time. We stated
the reasons why that we thought a lot of them
were just not We initially just thought no one would
believe a lot of what was being said, and we
also just we remembered the same friendship that Charlie had
and we just hoped that this would go away without
requiring any sort of direct statement or confrontation from us.
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So what was approved is we announced we are going
to respond to this, and what I said was we
are going to announce a date soon. We actually hadn't
agreed on it at the time. I read the statement,
we're going to announce a date where we're going to
respond to this, and once we announce it, Candace is
free to attend in person. That is what we announced.
And so once we agreed on a time, I announced
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what the time was going to be. Candace, for her part,
had said, you name the time, you name the place.
That is what we did. As for why it was
put out at that time, I would just say I
don't think she had any difficulty in finding out what
our scheduled time was. It seems everyone found it out
quite quickly. And lastly, on the point of why it's
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in person, I think it's pretty intuitive that given what
is being said, what the way this has worked is
that it's critical to be in person if you want
to be authentic and to be detailed, and that is
what we think is a fair request to make. If
she's going to participate, but regardless, it is going to
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go forward because we have agreed that some response needs
to be made, and so that's going to happen when
we announced it on December fifteenth.
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Speaker 6 (29:40):
Well, you know, I just don't think I'm the only
person who has heard some things that truly do not
make sense. And I know that Candice is asking a
lot of questions and she's way out there, but I
also know that there are lots of us who are
just every day, normal, average Americans who are fans of yours,
(30:03):
We're fans of Charlie's, we're fans of canvases, and they
were friends. And the things that don't make sense, I
think so many of us are really just wanting for
there to be some kind of logic to the whole thing.
And I have asked Candace myself. I mean, I'm one
person in all of America and maybe the world for
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that matter, who has asked her to please, you know,
go ahead and go come to come to your place
whatever you need, so that those of us who by
complete happen happenstance have turned out to be people who
listen to both of your podcasts, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You know, I really appreciate your heart genuinely, and I
hear you know, the sincere request for things that you
think don't make sense. I will say a couple of
things just before we have to go back to radio here.
One is that that's why you know we're doing this,
uh this on the fifteenth. We want to address any
of this stuff and just and let everybody know the
(31:05):
truth because much of it is very simple, very simple
to rebutton, to explain. And I would also say that,
you know, we want to be cognizant all the time,
and we're aware of this. We're in a different situation
because there is an ongoing investigation, there's a trial. We
have to be more careful than other voices out there
(31:26):
what we say. And there's always the issue of tainting
a potential jury pool that we're always very sensitive of. So, Gina,
thank you for your question.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
David, David, welcome to the show. Welcome to the Charlie Kirkshow, Hey,
how are we doing today? Doing well? Thank you, sir.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
I just want to make a couple of one comment
and then there's one question. We're in southern California. We
are trying to get voter ID on the ballot. We're
at seve round and fifty thousand. We need three hundred thousand.
My second comment is, what do you think of cal
Lutheran turning down making for a Turning Point chapter cal
(32:02):
livedro in University.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, well listen the the sixth yeah signature drive.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
No, absolutely, and we have a whole story on it.
By the way, at Turning Point USA TPUSA dot com.
You could literally just you know, look up cal Lutheran
TPUSA and the article.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Pop right back up.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
But yeah, it was a you know, we had a
chapter there, a pre existing one, and it was disapproved
in a two eleven to one secret ballot by the
school student Senate. And that was according to the Echo,
which reported on the matter. They had argument back and forth,
students presented various arguments. Uh, and then you know, somebody said,
(32:43):
I wasn't personally surprised by the outcome. At the end
of the day, we try, we do try to be fair, impartial,
and we want to see all the clubs succeed. But
we will notice when a club is trying to push
a certain rhetoric. And the last thing we need is
controversy here on campus. Another person said they felt concerned
with her safety with a Twoposa chapter on campus.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
As a black student.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
So listen, this is something that we have seen, which
is you know, it's we've seen it again and again again,
which actually just had a high school chapter that had
been accused of racism or something like that that they persisted,
they ended up getting approval. They had their first chapter
meeting yesterday and over fifty students showed up. So one
of the things that we've noticed, especially at the you
(33:27):
when you have this pushback, is that there's just.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
This huge demand, there's a pent up demand within.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
The student body, and you get these huge turnouts like
fifty plus students at a first meeting. That's incredible and
it's a testament to Charlie and how he's still inspiring
so many young people. But there are appeal process processes
in place for this type of thing. There's a way
to if you have to bring in legal there's a
way there. Because this is obviously if you're showing bias
(33:52):
against conservative groups or if you're not pursuing freedom.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Of speech the way you should.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
So all I always say, when when it's a student
Senate issue that is responsible for voting. There are other
avenues that you can pursue with the administration with legal
if you have to, and you can apply pressure in
those ways, and we've had a really successful track record
of that. Now there is a troubling issue when it
comes to I would say Christian schools. Historically Christian schools
(34:21):
that have probably lost their way. Charlie would rail against
Christian schools, so they tend they tend to be the
worst for some reason, the most cowardly, the most feckless,
especially about living boldly in their faith in Christian Conservative
Megan Basham from The Daily Wire has covered this a lot,
and she's a friend of the show and so she
I know, she's working on a whole piece on this.
So it's a troubling trend. And it's just a reminder
(34:44):
that these Christians institutions, formerly great Christian institutions, have so
many of them have lost their way and they need
to find their backbone and their spine again. And the
way they do that skip behind our conservative students back
them back their play. And so we were going to
keep her doing this. This is not the only case
of this, and we're working just so you know, we
have a field team and field stap all across the
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country that work directly with these student groups to help
them overcome just these sorts of challenges.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
All right, we have one minute forty five left, So unfortunately, Sarah,
I'm going to read your questions so we can get
at asap, because you say your question is free speech.
Is there a line for free speech like when actually
calling violence is wrong, or is calling for violence wrong,
or you have a no swearing policy. How do you
reconcile that with free speech? Well, first of all, we
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have an absolute First Amendment legal right to freedom of speech.
And what doesn't get covered by that is, yeah, it
doesn't calling to actually commit violence. America has a great
standard on this. It's basically, if you're going to be
calling for violence, it has to be a specific target,
a specific person, in a specific manner. And if you
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don't have at least two of those three things, in America,
a court will generally say doesn't count. You can say, yeah,
I don't like the Constitution and we should get rid
of it, or yeah, I kind of think we should
overthrow the government. If you're being vague, you can do
that in America and I think that's actually a good standard.
It's a standard very few other countries have. But it's
why in America we have such a robust free speech tradition.
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Now you can still have a personal policy about what
you should or should not say. So we shouldn't swear,
we shouldn't take the Lord's name in vain. That is
a moral principle that we follow. You shouldn't do it.
That doesn't necessarily apply for the entirety of the country.
America is a country with freedom of religion. It doesn't
have blasphemy laws. We oppose blasphemy laws in other countries.
(36:39):
You don't want them to ban blaspheming the prophet Muhammad
or something. But if you're a devout Muslim, you of
course shouldn't do that. And so it's a mixture of
what our laws should be and what our moral principles
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We take your questions on and ask us anything otherwise
known as an AMA, but now it's us and we
do that in Charlie's honor because that's what he did.
So first up, we have and by the way, if
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and the podcast, and you also get a lot of
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And yes there it is America Fest Amfest twenty twenty
five coming up in just a few weeks in Phoenix,
Arizona at the Convention Center, and this will be the
biggest one ever, all in Charlie's honor, all remembering Charlie
and of course taking action, action, action, because that's what
it's about. First up, for our Ama Blake, we have
Brandon Brandon, mute yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Hey guys, can you hear me?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We can. Yes.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So my question is about the AMA's actually, So I
was just wonder like the history of them, you know, when,
why how did they start? Because to my knowledge, like
you guys are the only show that does it and
definitely the only show that does it this way live.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, I could give a little brief history lesson on that.
So it goes back to when we started on radio
national radio show. There was basically, you know, I think
a pressure or push the way that they used to
do radio. I think some people still do where they
would roll callers and Charlie just had so much to
(02:58):
say all the time that he wanted to do a show.
He wanted to actually had things he wanted to say
and get accomplished, and so he just he but he
realized He's like, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm
going to put it into one hour where and it
will just make it a standing invitation where we're going
to have people send us their questions and so we.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That's kind of how it happened.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It was an impulse that Charlie had to do it
because instead of doing callers intermittently throughout the week or whatever,
he wanted to just condense it and to put it
in one one section so that he could focus more
closely on it, and then he could use the rest
of the show to kind of get accomplished everything else
that he wanted to get accomplished. So but the other
thing I would say to this is Charlie loved doing
(03:43):
AMAS because of the feedback loop with the audience. So
it gave him an opportunity to hear directly from you guys,
and he's he was a voracious email reader. So freedom
at Charliekirk dot com, Freedom at Charliekirk dot com going
to keep pumping that forever because it is the firewall
to truth and freedom.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And I said this at the memorial.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Actually, I don't know if Blake remembers this, but you know,
it was kind of this.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Idea that he he would.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Go meet with all these fancy people and the elites,
if you will, and you know, the donor class, because
that's part of the job running a Big C three
and a Big C four, and they would tell him, oh, this,
that and the other, the country needs this, and oh
the base doesn't know what they what they want, and
he would he would have a direct firewall to those
types of conversations because he was so in touch with
(04:29):
the audience. He was so in touch with the people
that listen to the show and the bass and the grassroots,
and so you know, for all of those reasons and more,
we will we will keep doing that in Charlie's honor.
I don't know, Blake, if you had anything you want
to add to that.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Or only that. When I got here, I think we
were already on AMA, probably about one hundred, so it
must have been going about two years at that point. So, uh,
now we're at I just checked. We're at this is
AMA number two forty six. Though I'm in title, I'm
in charge of titling a lot of these episodes, and
I've probably double counted a number somewhere in there, or
(05:03):
we had a special one that didn't get a number.
Lots of that, but yeah, we're going. We've had five
years of these. Charlie loved them, and as you said, Andrew,
he loved both just how varied it was. He got
to talk about scripture, he got to talk about history,
he got to talk about politics, he got to talk
about stuff behind the scenes. He got to talk about
his family, talked about talk about the Sabbath, like what
(05:25):
his new upcoming book is. He loved the variety, He
loved that human contact. It was. It was something that
gave him a lot of joy. And I always I
love to quote, yeah, you know from the poem if
you know, if you can converse with kings, nor lose
the common touch. And Charlie could take a phone call
from the President one minute and then take a phone
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call from one of you the next minute, and he
would take both very seriously. And it was one of
his his greatest assets, one of his greatest traits. And
we're onred to continue it.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, I want to read from Daisy because this is
pretty funny. This is actually probably how it actually went down.
From what I remember, Charlie said to me, I want
live callers tomorrow and then he said, okay, do this
every single week.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Lol.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
That's from That's from days and that That is actually
very emblematic of a lot of things at turning point
and at the show, where we would kind of just
try something and if it worked, if he liked it,
he would keep it. And and you know, building the
plane as it's taking off, if you will. So there
was a pretty like organic piece of that and that
does feel feel right to me. And then over time
we kind of threw a new twist and we brought
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in the members dot Charliekirk dot com for people to
join the members portal as well, So it just kind
of kept evolving.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I remember the AMA used to be mostly emails correct,
and then we made it the did we make it
the member call because we were launching members, Yeah, and
we were always trying. He always wanted to have callers.
I think a lot of it, yeah, because he loved
Rush and Rush took callers. He loved continuing that legacy.
And I remember we kept trying to just take callers
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in the middle of normal segments that was going on
in a lot when I first started, and people might
remember a little awkward. We'd try it and there were
always technical issues. It was so funny. So I'm very
glad we got it nailed down with these amas, because
we've had a lot of very memorable calls the past
two years we've been doing it this way.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, Next up, Jonathan, Welcome to the show. Jonathan.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Good to be here.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So have you guys invited Dennis Prager and Larry Elder.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So in years past we have had both of those
gentlemen obviously, Larry or Dennis Prager is you know, still
recovering from his injuries and I don't know. I haven't
checked in recently. I know Erica has, but I think
I think Dennis is still sort of bedbound.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
He's expected to get his mobility back. I'm not sure,
but we remained close with Dennis, and like I said,
Erica has has spoken with him recently, and he's a
great mentor of Charlie's and has been to so many
Turning Point events. And then Larry, Larry's been to a
bunch of Turning Point events, He's done his radio show
from Turning Point events. We love Larry, have a long,
(08:06):
long friendship and relationship with him. He's not going to
be at this year simply because probably we you know,
after Charlie was assassinated, a couple of things happened. We
got flooded. Everybody bought tickets to Amfest. We had to
turn the ticketing off, and again we're very sorry that
we had to do that. We would love to take
everybody candidly, the event would probably twice as big.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
If we didn't turn ticketing off.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But what also happened was a lot of speakers, a
lot of big name you know, movement leaders and politicians
reached out and wanted to be a part of the event,
and it filled up almost instantly. We already had some
book before September tenth, and then but then, you know,
after what happened, it just took on a life of
(08:53):
its own, and so this is sure to be the
largest and most crowded speakerless that we have ever had
at Amfest to probably any other event.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Since he asked about Dennis, I just want to flag
because I think it's a very moving tribute that this
book stop in the name of God, all about the Sabbath.
The dedication this book is dedicated to Dennis Prager. Your
life's work brought me to honoring the Sabbath. As a result,
I wrote this book. Thank you, Dennis for all you
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have done for humanity. God bless you. I can't imagine
Charlie ever thought Dennis would outlive him, but that's the
way it came to pass. But he did. I remember
that that he told me, you know, he wanted to
write this book. Dennis inspired him so much to do it.
I think he worked with him on the actual process
of writing the book as well, and he left it
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as a great tribute to his friend. And this book
is a tribute to Charlie as well.
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unfortunately this year is sold out, but you can already
pre buy tickets for next year, which is a huge thing,
and you get a discounted price if you do that now.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So that's one thing.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
But I don't think we've made enough of this on
this show, and that we had a big speaker announcement
this week, and that is JD Vance will be joining
us at Amfest.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
If you want to throw up image eight.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
JD Vance is a confirmed speaker featured speaker at Amfest
twenty twenty five in Phoenix, Arizona, December eighteenth through the
twenty first. And that is a big deal. But if
you are not able to join, say you have you waited,
you didn't get your tickets. The whole thing will be
streaming live on Rumble dot com.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Rumble dot com you show image seven h so you can.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
We have a deal with Rumble where they would be
streaming the entire thing so you can always be a
part of the action. I know the war room, Posse,
Bannon's going to be there, many many other media outlets.
It's gonna be this thing's gonna be bonkers, folks.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Blake, Yeah, no, it's great.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
We have some clips from JD. I thought you were
going to jump in there.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Oh oh, sorry about that. No, like we have uh,
let's see which is the best one that we have here.
We're very we're very excited to have JD. Yeah, let's
play two seventy one.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Under the Biden administration, the average American family lost over
three thousand dollars of household income, and under the first
ten months of this Trump administration, they have gained over
one thousand.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Dollars of household income.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
What that says very clearly is that we are fixing
the problem that Joe Biden and the Democrats created in
the last administration.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
And I think JD really in I would just say JD.
Over the past year especially, he has really grown into
this role that Charlie envisioned for him. This is why
Charlie was such a JD fan. We've told the very
funny story of how we endorsed him for Senate immediately,
and it was actually we jumped the gun a bit
and before Charlie could contact donors and explain why we're
(13:34):
doing this, And it's a very funny story. But he
always was a big believer in JD. From basically the
moment he entered politics. He always thought he had a
huge amount of potential. People would say, Charlie, do you
plan to enter politics? And one of the things one
of the answers he would say it was always I
don't need to because I know the things I care about.
Are squared away with JD as such a rising star,
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and he was so happy with how he's performed as
Vice President, becoming this spokesperson for the administration for its vision,
this person who can perpetuate what makes Maga maga for
years on end. And so we're super excited to have
him at America Fest. We've seen over and over how
much how much JD loved Charlie, how he was a
(14:19):
friend to Charlie, and we want to maintain that friendship
as much as possible growing forward, going forward, and we
encourage everyone if you're not able to attend anfest, you
can watch all the speeches online and get yourself fired
up and come next year, especially if you are on
the waiting list this time, you get a discount for
next year's And that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Be there, Be there next year, Yeah, exactly, be there.
We have another question from Robert. Robert, welcome to the show.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
Hey, can you guys hear me?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Yes? We can?
Speaker 8 (14:49):
Yes, Oh great, Yeah, my question, I've got a couple
of things. My question is is why don't you partner
up with Angel Films and do a biopic lift about
Charlie's life? I mean, really get some aid listers. I
know Chris Pratt is a Christian. I don't think he
would be the right person played Charlie. Of course that's
not my domain, but I think that that would be
something that would really be groundbreaking. It would renew everybody's
(15:16):
burned it down in the dumps feeling. I never met Charlie.
I know that you guys, of course, were dear friends
with them and colleagues, but I will say that I
miss him every day. I can't tell you what a
bright light this young man was, and at what a
young age he was able to accomplish what he did.
(15:36):
And I really believe that that was because that was
a God given thing that he was put here at
this time to make these kinds of changes and to
bring this visibility out. And the other thing is is
that I founded five companies, I took a couple of
public made a lot of money. I've lost a lot
(15:57):
of money. And during the Biden years it took I
kind of retired out of tech when Trump got in,
and then it took me five years to get a
job in tech, and mainly because of the H one visas.
I really believe that you guys have got to get
hardcore about this visa thing.
Speaker 9 (16:19):
It is.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
I can't tell you how many people who have the
experience I have who can't even get a resume looked at.
I mean, I sent out hundreds thousands of job applications
and finally got hired about nine months. Well, I got
hired two weeks after Trump got in.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Blake, you want to take a stab at Robert's question
about this?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Yeah, So Robert had two questions. We will hit the
more fun one. First, he asked about whether you know
if we would work with Angel Studios on a Charlie biopic.
It's way above my pay grade on that question. Obviously.
Whether any film is made about Charlie is a question
for Erica to decide, and I have no idea what
(16:59):
offers she's received in that way, what her own thinking
on this is. I genuinely just don't know. I think
my suspicion is it's probably very likely we'll get one eventually,
because Charlie is just such an icon to so many people,
and his life it truly has a cinematic quality to it.
He built something so immense and so successful from such
(17:24):
a young age, from nothing, really came from no strong
political background, no establishment background. It was just his pure energy,
his force of will. He drew people to himself. He
made people believe in his mission and just the faith
angle as well. His faith grew throughout his life, and
he truly died a martyr. I have to imagine I
(17:48):
very much understand why so many people think a film
of it would be good. It is very funny. I
just do have to say I did chuckle at the
suggestive Chris Pratt because I checked, and Chris Pratt is
forty six years old. It would be very There'd be
something interesting about him playing a person who was fifteen
years younger than him when he passed. But I don't know.
(18:11):
How do you feel about it, Andrew? Would it be
On the other hand, would it be too real? Would
it be would there be something fake about seeing someone
else play a man that you know both of us?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean, listen, here's here.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Here's what I'll tell you is that it's probably going
to happen.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
The question is how.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And I think there might be multiple, because I can
already tell you on the documentary side, there's going to
be multiple.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
There already are a few.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I think Daily Caller just released one that they that
they did. The folks behind the art of the Surge
are doing one because they traveled with Charlie to Greenland
and they had a bunch of footage from behind the scenes.
So on the on the dock side, we're gonna have that.
And then of course Turning Point, USA, the team is
has has more footage than anybody.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I mean, the team followed.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Charlie around for years and you know, I was always
sort of wondering, why why is this camera going I
never see this footage. Well now we have this amazing,
amazing storehouse of just never before seen footage of Charlie.
So that is something the team is working on as
well on the Turning Point side, and so that's gonna happen.
(19:14):
And I know that there are people that have already
contacted me and us about making films into Blake's point,
it's kind of all in Erica's that's a decision for
her to make, and you know, we sort of entrust
that with her, and I know she's talking with really
great people and so we'll see what happens with that.
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(19:37):
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Speaker 5 (20:35):
So the second half of Robert's question, because we also
want to hit that is he asked about h one bees,
he I believe. I don't know if we still have him,
but I think he said it took him five years
to get a job in a tech related field, and
that's a field where we're told we have a huge
talent shortage, and so that's why we need so many
H oneb's. Hundreds of thousands of people have come to
America as h one bees. For those who have forgotten
(20:56):
to remind you, the H one B visa is a
skilled worker visa. It is for companies that say they
have a position that cannot be filled by an American worker,
so they need to bring in someone from abroad. It's
become extremely popular in Silicon Valley, and it's certainly become
very controversial. A lot of people have called for ending
(21:18):
it outright or radically curtailing it. President Trump himself has
defended it. He defended it in the case of, for example,
we've been building these chip plants in the United States
and He's said, well, you're going to need these foreign
ship experts to get these plants up and running, otherwise
it's just not going to happen. And there's something to
be said for that. But there is also a very
(21:39):
real fact. We have gotten addicted to this and that addiction,
like any other addiction in your own personal life, it
makes us weaker over time, and it makes it hard
to break. We have damaged America's ability to be skilled
in highly technical fields because of H one b's. It's
lowered the amount of it's lowered the salaries and a
(21:59):
lot of those fields so they're less appealing than going
into something like law or medicine, where there's more of
a barrier to foreign competition. And it's made it so
there's companies that have just gotten used to Oh, rather
than having to train up American workers who are fresh
out of college, we can take these people who have
three years of experience from abroad and we don't have
(22:22):
to do any training. Saves us money and makes it
all easier for us. And it's a complicated thing that
we're going to need. I think we should dial back
H one well, I definitely think we should dial back
H one b's, maybe even have the goal of ending
it entirely. But we do need to have a plan
for how we're going to, for example, incentivized companies and
say we will encourage you to train employees fresh out
(22:45):
of college or even fresh out of high school, so
that you have an incentive to teach Americans to do
this job rather than just rely on foreigners to do it.
Another thing I'd point out is it's not just H
one be's. It's become the symbol of this problem, but
there's a lot of other visas out there, so we
need a total spectrum. Look. One that's known is the OPT.
It's not quite a visa. It's called Optional Practical Training,
(23:08):
and it's a program that's available for foreign students where
they can stay in America longer working in a job
related to their field of study. And there's been whole
cases where companies like Microsoft have used this as a
shadow H one B program to get more foreign workers
without getting H one b's. So it's definitely a massive
(23:28):
issue for America. It's one Charlie was very aware of.
It's one I told him a lot about. I was saying,
this is bubbling up badly. People have become really aware
that their job opportunities are getting hobbled because we continue
to bring in a lot of foreign workers, and especially
now that the border has been secured, people are looking
at the other sources of immigration. Related problems in American life.
(23:50):
So you're absolutely correct. It's a thing we need to
talk about. It's a thing Vice President Vance has talked
a lot about. He might even talk about it at
America Fests to definitely tune into that. Do you have
anything to say on that end?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, I want to add two things. One that you
know Robert was having trouble getting interviews even but it
took him years to get hired. And one thing I
would just say is one of a problem that has
been reported widely when it comes to H one bs
is that you have once you some of these cultures
that you bring in. Now, remember I'll just state stating
the facts. Seventy percent of H one b's go to Indians,
(24:22):
another ten to fifteen percent go to the Chinese, and
eighty percent of H one bvs is go to for
entry level jobs. So these are this is a direct
problem assault on the youngest Americans that are getting it
just getting into the workforce. So it's a huge, huge issue.
But one of the things you notice is that and
I've heard this just repeatedly, Robert. I don't know if
(24:44):
you have an anecdote that would underscore this, but they
tend to hire other people from their culture. So if
you hire if one of these h one b's rises
through the ranks, they become a hiring manager. They tend
to hire other people that are closer in cultural affinities
or affiliations to themselves. And so that's not necessarily a
(25:04):
good thing for native born Americans either. So that there's
multiple problems. Some are cultural, some are structural that are
injected into the system when you are addicted to foreign labor.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
It's just the facts.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Should we take the next one, Let's take Gina's question. Gina,
welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. What's your question?
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Hey, thanks, guys, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Okay, yes we can, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Okay. My heart's broken with the things that are going
on with Candace, and I'm trying to make it all
come together. I'm sure I'm not your only fan that
is trying to do that because of the relationship that
she had with Charlie. And one thing that I'm just
(25:47):
trying to make come together in my head is fly
The invitation was extended to Candace, but not to Candace directly. Blake,
I think you tweeted something out and I don't know
if you know, I don't know what's truth and what's not.
But I do know that she said she didn't even
see the invitation and it was issued Blake, I think
(26:08):
at twelve on a tweet that you had, but at
midnight twelve, not noon midnight, And so it was like
nine hours later before she even knew that you said
anything about her attending the show. And then she's saying
she can't attend in person, can she attend on a
live stream or you know, and you guys do live
streams all the time, And is that I'm trying to
(26:31):
make this come together.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Of course, So first of all, our initial statement it
was on the show on Wednesday, I made it at
the request of Erica. All of this has been at
the direction and approval of Erica because she had this,
and so what we were announcing there, as we said,
she has said things that are not true, and we
(26:56):
did not address them for a long time. We stated
the reasons why that we thought a lot of them
were just not We initially just thought no one would
believe a lot of what was being said, and we
also just we remembered the same friendship that Charlie had
and we just hoped that this would go away without
requiring any sort of direct statement or confrontation from us.
(27:18):
So what was approved is we announced we are going
to respond to this, and what I said was we
are going to announce a date soon. We actually hadn't
agreed on it at the time. I read the statement,
we're going to announce a date where we're going to
respond to this, and once we announce it, Candace is
free to attend in person. That is what we announced.
And so once we agreed on a time, I announced
(27:40):
what the time was going to be. Candace, for her part,
had said, you name the time, you name the place.
That is what we did. As for why it was
put out at that time, I would just say I
don't think she had any difficulty in finding out what
our scheduled time was. It seems everyone found it out
quite quickly. And lastly, on the point of why it's
(28:02):
in person, I think it's pretty intuitive that given what
is being said, what the way this has worked is
that it's critical to be in person if you want
to be authentic and to be detailed, and that is
what we think is a fair request to make. If
she's going to participate, but regardless, it is going to
(28:26):
go forward because we have agreed that some response needs
to be made, and so that's going to happen when
we announced it on December fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
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Speaker 6 (29:40):
Well, you know, I just don't think I'm the only
person who has heard some things that truly do not
make sense. And I know that Candice is asking a
lot of questions and she's way out there, but I
also know that there are lots of us who are
just every day, normal, average Americans who are fans of yours,
(30:03):
We're fans of Charlie's, we're fans of canvases, and they
were friends. And the things that don't make sense, I
think so many of us are really just wanting for
there to be some kind of logic to the whole thing.
And I have asked Candace myself. I mean, I'm one
person in all of America and maybe the world for
(30:23):
that matter, who has asked her to please, you know,
go ahead and go come to come to your place
whatever you need, so that those of us who by
complete happen happenstance have turned out to be people who
listen to both of your podcasts, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You know, I really appreciate your heart genuinely, and I
hear you know, the sincere request for things that you
think don't make sense. I will say a couple of
things just before we have to go back to radio here.
One is that that's why you know we're doing this,
uh this on the fifteenth. We want to address any
of this stuff and just and let everybody know the
(31:05):
truth because much of it is very simple, very simple
to rebutton, to explain. And I would also say that,
you know, we want to be cognizant all the time,
and we're aware of this. We're in a different situation
because there is an ongoing investigation, there's a trial. We
have to be more careful than other voices out there
(31:26):
what we say. And there's always the issue of tainting
a potential jury pool that we're always very sensitive of. So, Gina,
thank you for your question.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
David, David, welcome to the show. Welcome to the Charlie Kirkshow, Hey,
how are we doing today? Doing well? Thank you, sir.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
I just want to make a couple of one comment
and then there's one question. We're in southern California. We
are trying to get voter ID on the ballot. We're
at seve round and fifty thousand. We need three hundred thousand.
My second comment is, what do you think of cal
Lutheran turning down making for a Turning Point chapter cal
(32:02):
livedro in University.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, well listen the the sixth yeah signature drive.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
No, absolutely, and we have a whole story on it.
By the way, at Turning Point USA TPUSA dot com.
You could literally just you know, look up cal Lutheran
TPUSA and the article.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Pop right back up.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
But yeah, it was a you know, we had a
chapter there, a pre existing one, and it was disapproved
in a two eleven to one secret ballot by the
school student Senate. And that was according to the Echo,
which reported on the matter. They had argument back and forth,
students presented various arguments. Uh, and then you know, somebody said,
(32:43):
I wasn't personally surprised by the outcome. At the end
of the day, we try, we do try to be fair, impartial,
and we want to see all the clubs succeed. But
we will notice when a club is trying to push
a certain rhetoric. And the last thing we need is
controversy here on campus. Another person said they felt concerned
with her safety with a Twoposa chapter on campus.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
As a black student.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
So listen, this is something that we have seen, which
is you know, it's we've seen it again and again again,
which actually just had a high school chapter that had
been accused of racism or something like that that they persisted,
they ended up getting approval. They had their first chapter
meeting yesterday and over fifty students showed up. So one
of the things that we've noticed, especially at the you
(33:27):
when you have this pushback, is that there's just.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
This huge demand, there's a pent up demand within.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
The student body, and you get these huge turnouts like
fifty plus students at a first meeting. That's incredible and
it's a testament to Charlie and how he's still inspiring
so many young people. But there are appeal process processes
in place for this type of thing. There's a way
to if you have to bring in legal there's a
way there. Because this is obviously if you're showing bias
(33:52):
against conservative groups or if you're not pursuing freedom.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Of speech the way you should.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
So all I always say, when when it's a student
Senate issue that is responsible for voting. There are other
avenues that you can pursue with the administration with legal
if you have to, and you can apply pressure in
those ways, and we've had a really successful track record
of that. Now there is a troubling issue when it
comes to I would say Christian schools. Historically Christian schools
(34:21):
that have probably lost their way. Charlie would rail against
Christian schools, so they tend they tend to be the
worst for some reason, the most cowardly, the most feckless,
especially about living boldly in their faith in Christian Conservative
Megan Basham from The Daily Wire has covered this a lot,
and she's a friend of the show and so she
I know, she's working on a whole piece on this.
So it's a troubling trend. And it's just a reminder
(34:44):
that these Christians institutions, formerly great Christian institutions, have so
many of them have lost their way and they need
to find their backbone and their spine again. And the
way they do that skip behind our conservative students back
them back their play. And so we were going to
keep her doing this. This is not the only case
of this, and we're working just so you know, we
have a field team and field stap all across the
(35:05):
country that work directly with these student groups to help
them overcome just these sorts of challenges.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
All right, we have one minute forty five left, So unfortunately, Sarah,
I'm going to read your questions so we can get
at asap, because you say your question is free speech.
Is there a line for free speech like when actually
calling violence is wrong, or is calling for violence wrong,
or you have a no swearing policy. How do you
reconcile that with free speech? Well, first of all, we
(35:32):
have an absolute First Amendment legal right to freedom of speech.
And what doesn't get covered by that is, yeah, it
doesn't calling to actually commit violence. America has a great
standard on this. It's basically, if you're going to be
calling for violence, it has to be a specific target,
a specific person, in a specific manner. And if you
(35:53):
don't have at least two of those three things, in America,
a court will generally say doesn't count. You can say, yeah,
I don't like the Constitution and we should get rid
of it, or yeah, I kind of think we should
overthrow the government. If you're being vague, you can do
that in America and I think that's actually a good standard.
It's a standard very few other countries have. But it's
why in America we have such a robust free speech tradition.
(36:17):
Now you can still have a personal policy about what
you should or should not say. So we shouldn't swear,
we shouldn't take the Lord's name in vain. That is
a moral principle that we follow. You shouldn't do it.
That doesn't necessarily apply for the entirety of the country.
America is a country with freedom of religion. It doesn't
have blasphemy laws. We oppose blasphemy laws in other countries.
(36:39):
You don't want them to ban blaspheming the prophet Muhammad
or something. But if you're a devout Muslim, you of
course shouldn't do that. And so it's a mixture of
what our laws should be and what our moral principles
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