December 8, 2025 • 38 mins
In an age of jet travel, universal "birthright citizenship" is insanity. But will the Supreme Court actually be willing to say so? The show discusses the most important court case of Trump's second term. Then, Jack Posobiec dissects Netflix's bid to buy Warner Bros. and HBO, which could give woke gangsters (including Obama) a dominant position over America's most popular cultural products.
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Hey, Blake, ow De Andrew, good to see you. It
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I just I got to give so many kudos and
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It was probably the most hyped you would see Charlie
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You know, this was the first time we did this
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of the Turning Points biggest supporters was truly remarkable and
it meant a lot to us. I know it meant
a lot to Erica and the team. Everybody stepped up.
Everybody chipped in and played a role and did their part,
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friends and family that the wider turning point family rallied
behind the organization was something to see.
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It was it was, it was we have You had
hundreds of people, people who'd known Charlie for for years,
people who'd never met Charlie, people who were motivated to
come out because of the tragedy this fall, but he'd
still deeply inspired them.
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We heard accounts.
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I was talking to someone who said he'd started he'd
modeled his entire professional life off of following Charlie. He
was much older than Charlie, but he said, you know,
I worked really hard. But then when Charlie came around
and said, actually I'm doing a sabbath now, he adopted
the same thing.
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He said it transformed his life.
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And so over and over we were meeting people whom
Charlie had moved to deeper faith, to deeper involvement, deeper patriotism,
deeper concern for their country, and it was really incredible
to see them all come together to remember him, to
testify about him, and to continue the mission forward onward.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
As Charlie would.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Say, Yeah, you know, I so every year is a
little bit different at these galleys. And I will tell
you two things. You kind of inspired to two thoughts.
One was that I couldn't get past people that would
just come up to me and they would just start
crying or get emotional about what Charlie had meant to them.
And to how many first timers we had, because you know,
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this is an annual event and so you get a
lot of repeat people. There was so many first timers
that had been moved to come in and join us
at at mar A Lagos. So it was absolutely packed
and in a beautiful, beautiful testament. Yeah, just just to Charlie,
but also the work that he did, you know, building
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an institution that you know, was his it was his goal,
it was his wish that it would outlive him, and
we obviously thought that he was going to be you know,
ninety eight before that happened.
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But we're we're watching.
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It in real time and I'm just really I can't
say it enough. I'm just so proud of the team
and how they stepped up. We got lots and lots
of other news, but you did mention the book or
you mentioned Sabbath. And Charlie's book does come out this week,
his last book, Stop in the Name of God, and
Erica is is doing media to promote Charlie's book. It
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is blake. You know, you know this more intimately than
I do. I think this is Charlie's potentially his like
the most powerful personal book because a lot of that
you know, it was Maga doctrine, it was a college scam,
is right right wing revolution, these were these were sort
of heady books about policy topics or ideological topics. This
is a very personal book. It's very different in that way.
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And you know, it's terribly tragic that this is the
last book we have from Charlie. But in some ways,
now that we know that that's the case, it's really
apropos and it's I think this it comes out this week,
and we're going to be repeating that it's coming out
this week on the show, and it's a it's a
powerful book. How does this book blake, Because you were
so intimately involved with Charlie's prep for these books, how
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does this book kind of differ tonally in why is
it important?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Well, it's, as you say, it is so much more personal.
When he was deciding, for example, Right Wing Revolution, the
thought was, okay, what are the issues that matter for America?
What should we speak to the most. And you'll know,
we debated a few different possible topics for a book,
and that's what went out versus This was really it
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was the book he personally wanted to write about his life.
He wanted it as a tribute to Dennis Prager, who'd
inspire him to begin practicing the Sabbath himself, and he
thought it was a gift he could give to his readers,
to his supporters, This is something that can directly enrich
your life. There's elements of that in Right Wing Revolution,
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if you read the back half of that. There's a
lot of ways to improve your own personal life.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
But this is fully dedicated to that.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
It's directly inspired by his own experiences. It's by far
his most personal book. I think you could maybe say
The College Scam was his strongest politically related message, because
he was so emphatic about you don't need to spend
one hundred two hundred thousand dollars to get a degree
to succeed, and he was a proof of that himself,
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and he wanted that message to get out. But this
is the most just purely personal, and this is his
most spiritual book. It's his first directly religious book, and
I think that meant a lot to him as well.
It was his chance to really dive into the Bible,
dive into the history of the Jewish Christian faiths.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
And really explore that.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
So it's not just that the message was very personal
for him, it's also that the process of writing it
was a very personal, spiritual, enjoyable endeavor for him. I
think it was his refuge from a lot of a
lot of annoying things that were of course going on
in the past year.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Well absolutely, and you don't have to be somebody of
faith to get a lot out of this book. Rest
is a mandate from God, certainly, but it's good for everybody,
and Charlie.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
It was not a mandate. A gift is a gift.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
No, totally, totally well said, but it really will unlock.
It's something I've been in the wake of Charlie's assassination,
something I've been personally trying to practice and just take time.
I actually brought my family out to West Palm Beach
and Palm Beach because I usually don't because you know,
we got three little kids, so it's hard to travel,
and you know it's a work trip, so you get distracted.
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And I was like, you know what, I'm going to
do this and I'm going to spend some time with them.
And that was a direct reaction to Charlie's instruction and
his his his this final gift of this book. Uh
so you can get that at forty five books dot com.
Please check it out. I think it's I just think
it's so. It's such a beautiful book and I'm I
haven't even read all of it yet, and I'm getting
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so much out of it. I'm learning stuff from Charlie
that you know, we talked a lot about this book,
and I'm learning stuff in the book that I that
we did not talk about.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So the other big news of the day, however, and
by the way, that book comes out tomorrow start shipping,
so please please please do check it out forty five
books dot com. Other big news and we can I'm
going to go through the list here, Blake, and we're
probably gonna center on birthright citizenship, because I think it's
so huge, it's the sleeping giant of immigration. Birthright citizenship
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is now going to be heard by the Supreme Court
looking like oral arguments at the beginning of twenty twenty
six decision by June most likely. You've got this EU DSA,
which is Digital Services Act. They have fined Elon musk
An x one hundred and forty million dollars. You we
had our Gala. We've got Amfest coming up, stopping the
name of God. You've got this Warner Brothers versus Paramount
(09:04):
versus Netflix saga. We're gonna bring on Jack Pisobaic second
half of this hour to discuss. You got the Pope
weighing in on Islam. You've got the Democrat's major messaging pivot.
By the way, it's like Epstein doesn't exist anymore. You know,
they're just they're all on healthcare, they're all in drug boats.
It's very interesting, but it's there. Their messaging is scattered, Blake,
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It's scattered. It's not it's not focused. They don't know
where to go next, which is actually a good opportunity
for us to advance our lines, our messaging, our positive lines,
so there's all.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Of that, but birthright citizenship.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
We're coming up against the break in this first segment, Blake,
But really quickly, why is this so big?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
It's big because this is it is the core element
of the Great replacement. What enables it to happen is
are courts have allowed that anyone who comes into this
country illegally as a tourist, as a guest worker, if
they have a kid ten seconds after they crossed the border,
that person is a US citizen for life. That is
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certainly not what was intended by the people who wrote
the fourteenth Amendment. It is obviously insane in modern America,
and the Trump administration is finally taking the action we
should have taken decades ago to say this is not
what our law has ever been, and that's very important.
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Speaker 3 (11:27):
Blake.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Here's what we're gonna get into. We're gonna explain this
birthright citizenship, the dynamics of it, because I think it's
really really important. There are in twenty twenty three, which
is the last year that I have data on, there
were between two hundred and twenty five thousand and two
hundred and fifty thousand babies born to illegal immigrants. They
believe that this could impact up to four point three
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million retroactively births, because remember Trump did this, and the
way they're gonna work it out and the way they're
gonna move forward is TVD. But it could impact up
to four point three million children. So it's a huge,
huge deal. But when we're talking about historical significance and
moving forward, that number obviously is going to be even larger.
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So the language in the fourteenth Amendment was derived from
the eighteen sixty six Civil Rights Act, So this is
again right after the Civil War. The intent was to
give citizenship to freed slaves and the children of freed slaves,
and the language in that eighteen sixty six Civil Rights
Act from which this was derived said all persons born
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in the United States and not subject to any foreign
power would be considered citizens. Now, this also gets lost
in the shuffle. Two Supreme Court cases upheld that the
Fourteenth Amendment excluded citizens of foreign countries born in the US,
the slaughter House cases in eighteen seventy two and Elk v.
Wilkins in eighteen eighty four. Now, birthright proponents like to
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cite the eighteen ninety eight Supreme Court case which was
United States versus Kim Wog or versus Kim, But they
conveniently forget that that case was about Chinese the child
of a Chinese parents that resided in the United States
permanently and lawfully. So the big idea here is that
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the fourteenth Amendment was intended to give grant citizenship to
freed slaves born in America and their children, not to
illegals who owe allegiance in our citizens of a foreign country.
And here's the key quote, Blake, this is the one
that everybody's going to be talking about and arguing around
in this Supreme Court oral argument, subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
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And one last point, Blake, before I throw it to you,
there is a reason that American Indians did not receive
citizenship until nineteen twenty four with the passage of the
Indian Citizenship Act.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Now you have to.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Ask yourself why why did they not receive citizens They
were born on American soil, presumably, But this is the key.
They were considered to owe allegiance to native sovereignty to
their own tribal nations, and they were not automatically considered
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to owe allegiance to the United States, and therefore it
took an extra step passed by Congress in nineteen twenty four,
the Indian Citizenship Act. So if everybody simply born on
American soil is automatically a citizen, you have to ask yourself,
why not the Native Americans. That's the question. I would
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like anybody that is a proponent of birthright citizenship for
illegals or tourists or whatever to answer me.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Blake over to you. I know you got so the.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Wonkim Arc decision from the late eighteen hundred that's very
important because it gets one of the biggest lies they'll
say is that this is settled law. The Supreme Court
of the United States has only ever ruled on whether
birthright citizenship extends to the children of those legally.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
In the United permanently.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
That's all they ever ruled on legally and permanently, which
his parents were. And they've never ruled on illegal immigrants.
They've never ruled on birth tourism. And that is just
sort of something that liberals in the US federal government
just asserted. Lower level courts asserted it, and we let
them get away with it until it grew into this
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huge tumor that is consuming the United States. As you said,
hundreds of thousands of births a year to illegal immigrants.
There are millions of people who have citizenship as a
result of that. Among other things, it causes illegal immigrants
to receive a huge amount of welfare benefits because even
if you're an illegal, if your anchor baby is a
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US citizen, you become eligible for food stamps and.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
A whole bunch of other things. And it's all based
on this myth.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
It's based on a myth that it's somehow now just
obviously means anyone born in the US qualifies no that
line subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It means essentially owing allegiance,
owing fealty to that nation. It actually, if you dig
deep into the roots of it, it derives from legal
ideas of like owing loyalty to the king. Could you
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commit treason against the king? If you are not able
to commit treason against the United States, then I don't
think it makes sense to say that you're subject to
the jurisdiction of the United States. Well, and I think
I'm hopeful the Supreme Court will rule that way. My
biggest fear is they'll try some pragmatic decision where they
would just say, oh, well, it would be too disruptive
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to change the law. I think the actual meaning of
the law is extremely clear that this level of birthright
citizenship we've had for so many years is not tenable
or defensible.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
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Speaker 4 (18:07):
Jack Pasobic, host of Human Events, daily Turning Point contributor Jack.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
How you doing, my friend, dude, we called it, we
called the shot. Last week on Thought Crime, everybody said,
why why is Poso going so crazy about Netflix?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Why is the Stranger things? And what does this have
to do with everything? What is it all?
Speaker 7 (18:26):
And I'm sitting there, guys, I'm like, guys, we're doing
forty minutes on Netflix. And everybody was trying to figure
this out on Thursday, remember, and then it was Friday
the next day that it was like boom Netflix.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Let me let's just say, let's just say I may.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Have heard something from my little birds that something was
in the air regarding the Netflix buyout of Warner Brothers,
which would be disastrous. It would put Obama in complete
control of some of the most iconic American brands. You're
talking DC comics, you're talking HBO everything. So Obama aligned
Netflix charge with all of them. And we've seen, by
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the way, what they've done with the pedophile content with QDs,
with this these very strange over and you know, we
talked about it at length last week, but this overly
sexualized content and LGBT content introduced in Stranger Things, and
it's like, guys, we we got to actually call this
stuff out when it's happening. So then all of a sudden,
Friday happens, everybody thinks, oh my gosh, Netflix is going.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
To buy Warner Brothers. It's done.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
And even even you know a lot of people who
work in the film business are saying that this is
really bad because they're gonna put movie theater out of business.
We don't want that, because we want movie theaters, we
want community in America. Still, it's like America's last public
ritual in many ways, like non religious, you know, secular ritual.
And then today, boom, you got Paramount in with, you know,
(19:46):
and you know, they're not perfect either, but way better
than Netflix.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
And they come in with this.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Hostile, hostile offer direct to Netflix's shareholders at so and
the key difference is here, Netflix put in eighty.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Three billion for their deal.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Paramount's coming in at one hundred billion, so eight it's
probably the hundred story in.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
The country, one hundred and eight point four, So it's
a bidding war. Paramount attempts hostile offer for Warner Brothers.
David Ellison calls Netflix his eighty two point seven billion
dollar deal value an inferior proposal and tells Warner shareholders
that his coalition, which to be clear, includes Middle Eastern
sovereign wealth funds. They promises eighteen billion more in cash.
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So the question then is, Jack, why do you believe
that Warner Warner Bros. Is opting for an inferior deal
with Netflix? Is there is there an ideological fight happening
over this deal?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I mean, they're very well could be. You know, they're
very very well could be.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
A lok Zaslov from Warner Brothers has always been tight
with a lot of the guys over a Netflix And
look at it. You talk to ideology, right the ideology
that we've for so many of these executives is far left.
And who is on the board of Netflix right now?
Susan Rice. She was there from twenty eighteen to about
twenty twenty one. Then they signed a huge deal with
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Barack Obama Michelle Obama. They're gonna be putting their content
on Netflix and have continued to put their content. So
then Susan Rice leaves, she goes to the Biden administration
until about twenty twenty three she comes back to Netflix,
and immediately after coming back to Netflix, Susan Rice and
Netflix announced what oh, another huge expanded deal with the
Obama family. This reminds me, by the way, Andrew very
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much of the way that the NFL signed their Super
Bowl deal with jay Z and they gave over.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
The halftime show to jay Z.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
And of course turning point USA is very smartly I
think responding back in kind there. And so you've got
this situation where the audience doesn't want this stuff, the
audience doesn't want wokeness. And in fact, we just saw
a new study by Glad of all people. I can't
believe I'm citing Glad the Game Les Alliance, but they're
saying that actually looking looking forward next year, that LGBT
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content and characters are going to be moving away from
shows that people are moving that we don't want Pete
quote anymore. So what we're seeing is this new alliance
of the Obamas, the far lefties, Netflix, and a bunch
of the lefties I think that are currently on in
the leadership team of the WB WB Discovery. And at
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the end of the day, who's going to be hurt.
It's the average American, you know, the average American who's saying,
why is there so much of this woke crap, this
LGBT crap in like Looney Tunes and Batman and Superman
and just regular TV shows that you want to watch
or movies that you want to watch, and you're not
interested in any of that political or like gender bending nonsense.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's what this is about.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So it's interesting too because I remember when, you know,
Netflix was really starting to pour money into original programming,
and they would talk openly about how they were in
an arms race with HBO to become the streaming version
faster than HBO could become Netflix. Basically, they wanted to
become HBO fast and HBO could become Netflix. And now
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you have with this Warner Brothers Discovery deal and Basicallyflix,
Netflix would acquire HBO, HBO Max will go to the
streaming giant, and then they the embattled cable network divisions
that's TNT, CNN, notably HGTV, the Food Network, and Discovery
will be spun out as a separately traded company. So
you have what you have here behind the scenes is
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an ideological battle because Oracle founder Larry Ellison, it's the
sun Right of Larry Ellison, more conservative leaning, and they're
worried about CNN as well. You've got to imagine that
this is part of the calculus. They're worried that paramount
that the Oracle founders would essentially turn CNN into a
more conservative network. Meanwhile, Jack, just this morning, you have Trump. Well,
(23:59):
it was actually last over the weekend, you have Trump.
It was asked about this at the Kennedy Center event.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah. One sixteen. Let's hear from President Trump here. One sixteen.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Should they be allowed to buy Warner Brothers.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Should Well, that's a question. They have a very big
market share, and when they have Warner Brothers, you know
that chair goes up a lot. So I don't know,
that's going to be for some economists to tell. And also,
and I'll be involved in that decision too.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
So what's interesting about this is it comes off the
heels this morning, Jack of a another Paramount property, CBS
got into President Trump's ire, into his into his crosshairs.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And he may may have been a truth social.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It may have been a truth social. Yeah, and he
was basically asking. He's saying, yeah, you know, Paramount's not
much better. CBS isn't much better. Look at they've still
got the sixty minutes on. They're terrible. I want an
apology from Leslie Stall. What is that dynamic? Explain what
you think and what you're seeing behind the scenes there.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I mean, it's it's so clear, right, It's so clear
what's going on.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
Because President Trump knows that the administration has huge regulatory
authority here.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
This is something right now.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Obviously, the obvious anti trust problem is if Netflix buys
HBO Max, Right, So these are two of the biggest streamers,
and one of the biggest streamers buys the other streamer,
it would be like Coke buying Pepsi, and so you
would have it. This would create a monopoly problem. And
Netflix is trying to explain this way. They're saying, no, no, no,
you should you should consider us against all content out there.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I mean, look at TikTok, look at you know, Rumble.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
They're trying to say that Netflix is comparable to that,
and it's just it's just obviously not true.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's just obviously not true.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
So it's a huge anti trust problem there, which President
Trump of course responded to on the floor of the
Kennedy Center. He was on that step and repeat asking
that question. But here's what's interesting is that he comes
out this morning popping Paramount saying like, hey, hey guys,
no free ride for you either, because I'm going to
be watching you guys like a hawk because I saw
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I mean, I have to look at the timing, but
I'm sure that he probably heard that Paramount's hostile.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Deal was coming in.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
And it also just broke that there was a secret
meeting where the head of Netflix actually went over to
the White House and they did have a meeting and
sat down.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
In the Oval office. That had never been reported.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
The White House didn't put that out because he was
trying to make sure there were no regulatory hurdles. Now,
President Trump coming in saying, you know what, just because
you guys want to come in, I know you got
my son in law on board, but guess what if
you wanted to be there to be no issues with you.
I want to see a little bit more fairness when
it comes to CBS, when it comes to sixty minutes
all of this. So, I mean, the balls really in
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President Trump's court on a lot of this.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
And yeah, it's interesting you're watching the art of the
deal play out here where he's he's applying pressure to
both parties and so they're essentially both in a position
where they need to suck up to President Trump, which
is you know, which is probably just where the President
wants it.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And I mean, these are huge stakes.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
If people are not understanding why we're talking about this
deal here on this show, in the try kirkshow we
have to also understand that there's so many of these
cultural touch points, these cultural I guess seeds for either
wokeness or a return to common sense that are planted
at this level with these long form shows that have
become so popular. What kind of ideologies are getting spread
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and implanted in the narratives and then they filter out
into our politics. This kind of stuff, I would argue,
is more important than about ninety eight percent of the
other things we can talk about now. I would put
birthright citizenship slightly more ahead of this, but there's very
few issues that are truly this important that have such
civilizational weight behind them.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Blake, I'm talking about go ahead.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
I mean I was gonna say, it's the cultural viewpoints,
it's where we get it from.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah, go ahead, Blake.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
I just think it's very funny how much people care
about TV.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yes, because people do. That's the point. That's the point
we're making. Whether they do, yes, do yeah, it's hugely important, Michael,
and our studio goes I care yes.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Well, where that people get their worldview from. Right, People
aren't gonna sit and you talk about birthright slidenship. Right,
People aren't sitting around and reading Supreme Court rulings. They're
watching Netflix miniseriies, right, But they will They will watch
a Netflix mini series on it, or they will sit
down and watch whatever HBO's got on it.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So that's why it's important. It's because people.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
That's where people get their story of the world, their
story of who we are, their story of who they are.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It's where they get their views on religion.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
It's where they and by the way, and studies have
shown go look at Marshall mccluan talking about this in
the sixties, that people have gotten their worldview from mass
media since the nineteen fifties on. They started with radio,
then it moved to television, and today's streaming is just
the newest iteration of that sort of streaming plus social media.
So if you're not paying attention to who's in control
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of this, then you're not paying attention to who's in
control of the minds of the masses.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And that's what this is about. Who is in control
of the minds of the masses.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Well said, I agree with you, Jack, but Blake to
your point. One of one of the charming things about
Blake is that he's sort of immune from this and
he's pure. He's not he's you know, so I appreciate
we we work in tandem. It works together.
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Speaker 4 (30:19):
So before we get to this viral cinnabon clip, which
is you know, a classic case of you know, bad
white woman, innocent immigrant couple. I just we are still
continuing the debate. Blake, you think that TV is less
important than it's ever been. I agree with you on
that because entertainment is more diffused. Everything is more diffuse
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and fractured. But it's still important.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
There's more, there's more things that competes with the video games, YouTube,
live streamers, pick, take your pick. But on top of that,
the most interesting thing with streaming services is it's reduced
the importance of anything new existing. So what's the biggest
value out of say, subscribing to Disney Plus, It's that
(31:03):
you can watch every Disney movie ever made, you can
watch every Disney TV show ever made. And I think
you'll see that. What's the biggest reason Netflix wants to
acquire HBO. It's probably a huge library that HBO and
Warner Brothers have, and I think that reduces the importance
of new shows. Everything that's ever made has to compete
(31:24):
with the Sopranos, Everything that's ever made has to compete
with the Simpsons, everything that's ever made has to compete
with I Love Lucy, Gone with the Wind, the Wizard
of Oz, everything that's ever been made it all is
still out there.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
A lot of it remains popular.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
I remember, at its peak Netflix, the most common show
to watch on Netflix.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Well after it went off the air, was The Office.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I think at its peak about one percent of all
Internet traffic in America was people watching The Office. And
I think that Jack is correct to say it dictates
a lot of what our culture is talking about and
thinking about. But it also dictates less and less by
the year, which I think we should be grateful for,
because you don't want everything people think about funneled through
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a tiny number of choke points controlled by people who
are completely insane.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Well, like, I actually, real quick, I just completely agree
with you, because like, when's the last time a movie
became a classic?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Because think about that, like it's just whatever's new, there's
no classics anything.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Well, by the way, the Mash finale one hundred and
six million people tuned in for that. We don't have
that kind of stuff anymore. I mean, this is the
most famous one obviously. February twenty eighth, nineteen eighty three,
the finale of Mash drew one hundred and six million viewers,
becoming the most watched single episode in US television history
for decades with a seventy seven percent share of the audience.
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It's like a third of the US population apparently. Anyway,
so this is this is pretty incredible. We don't have
these these cultural touch points anymore in the same way, Jack,
But it doesn't mean that the these you know, stranger
things isn't still massive, right, It's still it's still a huge,
huge show, you know. I But those kind of moments
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where like Friends finale, the Seinfeld finale, we we don't
have as many of those. I think the last kind
of big cultural moment was probably Game of Thrones, if
I it's what I would say, breaking bad finale, breaking bad,
breaking But even though so much those mattered a lot
to sort of I guess the niche lead TV watching public,
(33:31):
but they were both on One was on a cable channel,
one was on a subscription special cable channel.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
So a lot of people watch those, but at the
same time not anywhere near the number who watched Friends,
Cianfeld Mash as you said, and the other thing we're
talking about, there's a lack of new classics, lack of
new classic films, but also a big flattening of what
genres actually take off. So you used to have go
(33:58):
check the top ten grossing films in nineteen ninety nine,
and you'll see rom coms, you'll see suspense films. Now
the top grossing films are pretty much exclusively big blockbuster
franchise films, your superhero films, your Harry Potter movies, that
sort of thing. You When was the last time a
film comedy was a huge deal that everyone in America
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saw the Hangover?
Speaker 6 (34:24):
The Hangover came out fifteen years ago. People who were.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Born after The Hangover came out will be able to
vote soon. And that's another aspect of the way these
pop culture phenomena they still matter, as Jack says, but
I think they they mercifully do matter less, all right.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
So I mean I agree, but certainly I mean that's
this is really good fodder for a thought crime topic. Actually,
But I mean either way, right, you know, Netflix and
Paramount and Warner Brothers all matter. But to your point, yes,
I do think that because the biggest competition, right that
all of these things have that scripted, prepared, formatted, whatever
(35:02):
word you want to use for it content.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Has is actually social media.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
So the idea that because a YouTuber is just gonna
make it for free and throw it up on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So YouTube is a competitor.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
But I would argue that Netflix is fundamentally different and
all of those streamers are a fundamentally different thing than
YouTube because YouTube is a user created service. Rumble, of course,
which is so much better, is a user created service.
And so the idea or like shows like this, So
the idea that you know, we're we're some like we
don't have corporate backing. We don't have some like massive
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you know, international multi national conglomerate behind all of us.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I know that's what the Internet says, but we actually don't.
And yeah, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
And so so it's so much cheaper, the ROI is
so much higher than because of that, we are able
to do more, We're able to be more nimble. And
that's it's new media, right, It's basically sort of like
an extension of the new media old media fight.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
All right, hold on, I gotta I gotta get to it,
because I promise the audience I got to play the
cinnabon viral clip here real quick.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I get forty one. Mediais and I'll say.
Speaker 9 (36:19):
That to the whole entire world.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Don't be just your life by the way, talking about
you're talking about respect.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
You're talking about respects. You bought a fire from this place.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
You're not going to be walking here.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Suck it, suck one. Look how you what's.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Wrong with you? Uls? Did I stand?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Stun it? All?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
So this was obviously meant to make bad white woman
innocent Somali couple. But the bigger issue Jack, and we
only have a minute left. I wish we could have
more time, is that these confrontations are happening more and
more and more, and we're inviting these cultures and having
these collisions. Is it the woman's fall, Well, obviously it
wouldn't recommend acting like that, but what's really going on here.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
What's really going on is that TikTok has created an
invertative set of structure for bad behavior and quote unquote,
we're going to catch people and cancel them. But the
way that people are fighting back against this new cancel culture,
I mean, this is like some minimum wage employee at
a mall and obviously, and you can see the video before,
we've seen this cycle million times, they're clearly being harassed,
and she harassed her to get content out of it.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
That's why they were filming in the first place.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
And so if you look at Gibs and go last
I checked, it's about to cross one hundred thousand dollars
for this woman because people are saying, Look, regardless of
whether we say we agree with what she did, this
is how you stop cancel culture, and this is how
you reverse the incentive structure.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Just stop harassing people at work. It's really that simple.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Don't harask customers, but don't harass employees either, just because you're.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Trying to get TikTok clout.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
And how many times have we seen people try to
do that for TikTok clout over and over and over.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Jack Misobaic Human Events Daily. Thanks so much. Jack.
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Hey, Blake, ow De Andrew, good to see you. It
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We had an amazing weekend.
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I just I got to give so many kudos and
props to the Turning Point team, the galas. This was
Charlie's super Bowl weekend.
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He loved it.
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It was probably the most hyped you would see Charlie
except for maybe Amfest or Student Action Summit. But I
mean he really really focused in and got dialed in
for these, for our galas that we do at mar
A Lago. Was an amazing, amazing weekend and it was special.
And Blake, I know you can speak to this as well.
You know, this was the first time we did this
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without Charlie, and the response and the reaction from some
of the Turning Points biggest supporters was truly remarkable and
it meant a lot to us. I know it meant
a lot to Erica and the team. Everybody stepped up.
Everybody chipped in and played a role and did their part,
and it was great to see and really heartwarming to see,
(02:23):
because you never you never know what you're gonna get
after something like this, but to see, you know, our
friends and family that the wider turning point family rallied
behind the organization was something to see.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
It was it was, it was we have You had
hundreds of people, people who'd known Charlie for for years,
people who'd never met Charlie, people who were motivated to
come out because of the tragedy this fall, but he'd
still deeply inspired them.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
We heard accounts.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I was talking to someone who said he'd started he'd
modeled his entire professional life off of following Charlie. He
was much older than Charlie, but he said, you know,
I worked really hard. But then when Charlie came around
and said, actually I'm doing a sabbath now, he adopted
the same thing.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
He said it transformed his life.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
And so over and over we were meeting people whom
Charlie had moved to deeper faith, to deeper involvement, deeper patriotism,
deeper concern for their country, and it was really incredible
to see them all come together to remember him, to
testify about him, and to continue the mission forward onward.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
As Charlie would.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Say, Yeah, you know, I so every year is a
little bit different at these galleys. And I will tell
you two things. You kind of inspired to two thoughts.
One was that I couldn't get past people that would
just come up to me and they would just start
crying or get emotional about what Charlie had meant to them.
And to how many first timers we had, because you know,
(03:51):
this is an annual event and so you get a
lot of repeat people. There was so many first timers
that had been moved to come in and join us
at at mar A Lagos. So it was absolutely packed
and in a beautiful, beautiful testament. Yeah, just just to Charlie,
but also the work that he did, you know, building
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an institution that you know, was his it was his goal,
it was his wish that it would outlive him, and
we obviously thought that he was going to be you know,
ninety eight before that happened.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
But we're we're watching.
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It in real time and I'm just really I can't
say it enough. I'm just so proud of the team
and how they stepped up. We got lots and lots
of other news, but you did mention the book or
you mentioned Sabbath. And Charlie's book does come out this week,
his last book, Stop in the Name of God, and
Erica is is doing media to promote Charlie's book. It
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is blake. You know, you know this more intimately than
I do. I think this is Charlie's potentially his like
the most powerful personal book because a lot of that
you know, it was Maga doctrine, it was a college scam,
is right right wing revolution, these were these were sort
of heady books about policy topics or ideological topics. This
is a very personal book. It's very different in that way.
(05:08):
And you know, it's terribly tragic that this is the
last book we have from Charlie. But in some ways,
now that we know that that's the case, it's really
apropos and it's I think this it comes out this week,
and we're going to be repeating that it's coming out
this week on the show, and it's a it's a
powerful book. How does this book blake, Because you were
so intimately involved with Charlie's prep for these books, how
(05:30):
does this book kind of differ tonally in why is
it important?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Well, it's, as you say, it is so much more personal.
When he was deciding, for example, Right Wing Revolution, the
thought was, okay, what are the issues that matter for America?
What should we speak to the most. And you'll know,
we debated a few different possible topics for a book,
and that's what went out versus This was really it
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was the book he personally wanted to write about his life.
He wanted it as a tribute to Dennis Prager, who'd
inspire him to begin practicing the Sabbath himself, and he
thought it was a gift he could give to his readers,
to his supporters, This is something that can directly enrich
your life. There's elements of that in Right Wing Revolution,
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if you read the back half of that. There's a
lot of ways to improve your own personal life.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
But this is fully dedicated to that.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
It's directly inspired by his own experiences. It's by far
his most personal book. I think you could maybe say
The College Scam was his strongest politically related message, because
he was so emphatic about you don't need to spend
one hundred two hundred thousand dollars to get a degree
to succeed, and he was a proof of that himself,
(06:43):
and he wanted that message to get out. But this
is the most just purely personal, and this is his
most spiritual book. It's his first directly religious book, and
I think that meant a lot to him as well.
It was his chance to really dive into the Bible,
dive into the history of the Jewish Christian faiths.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
And really explore that.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
So it's not just that the message was very personal
for him, it's also that the process of writing it
was a very personal, spiritual, enjoyable endeavor for him. I
think it was his refuge from a lot of a
lot of annoying things that were of course going on
in the past year.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Well absolutely, and you don't have to be somebody of
faith to get a lot out of this book. Rest
is a mandate from God, certainly, but it's good for everybody,
and Charlie.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
It was not a mandate. A gift is a gift.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
No, totally, totally well said, but it really will unlock.
It's something I've been in the wake of Charlie's assassination,
something I've been personally trying to practice and just take time.
I actually brought my family out to West Palm Beach
and Palm Beach because I usually don't because you know,
we got three little kids, so it's hard to travel,
and you know it's a work trip, so you get distracted.
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And I was like, you know what, I'm going to
do this and I'm going to spend some time with them.
And that was a direct reaction to Charlie's instruction and
his his his this final gift of this book. Uh
so you can get that at forty five books dot com.
Please check it out. I think it's I just think
it's so. It's such a beautiful book and I'm I
haven't even read all of it yet, and I'm getting
(08:13):
so much out of it. I'm learning stuff from Charlie
that you know, we talked a lot about this book,
and I'm learning stuff in the book that I that
we did not talk about.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So the other big news of the day, however, and
by the way, that book comes out tomorrow start shipping,
so please please please do check it out forty five
books dot com. Other big news and we can I'm
going to go through the list here, Blake, and we're
probably gonna center on birthright citizenship, because I think it's
so huge, it's the sleeping giant of immigration. Birthright citizenship
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is now going to be heard by the Supreme Court
looking like oral arguments at the beginning of twenty twenty
six decision by June most likely. You've got this EU DSA,
which is Digital Services Act. They have fined Elon musk
An x one hundred and forty million dollars. You we
had our Gala. We've got Amfest coming up, stopping the
name of God. You've got this Warner Brothers versus Paramount
(09:04):
versus Netflix saga. We're gonna bring on Jack Pisobaic second
half of this hour to discuss. You got the Pope
weighing in on Islam. You've got the Democrat's major messaging pivot.
By the way, it's like Epstein doesn't exist anymore. You know,
they're just they're all on healthcare, they're all in drug boats.
It's very interesting, but it's there. Their messaging is scattered, Blake,
(09:25):
It's scattered. It's not it's not focused. They don't know
where to go next, which is actually a good opportunity
for us to advance our lines, our messaging, our positive lines,
so there's all.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Of that, but birthright citizenship.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
We're coming up against the break in this first segment, Blake,
But really quickly, why is this so big?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
It's big because this is it is the core element
of the Great replacement. What enables it to happen is
are courts have allowed that anyone who comes into this
country illegally as a tourist, as a guest worker, if
they have a kid ten seconds after they crossed the border,
that person is a US citizen for life. That is
(10:06):
certainly not what was intended by the people who wrote
the fourteenth Amendment. It is obviously insane in modern America,
and the Trump administration is finally taking the action we
should have taken decades ago to say this is not
what our law has ever been, and that's very important.
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Blake.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Here's what we're gonna get into. We're gonna explain this
birthright citizenship, the dynamics of it, because I think it's
really really important. There are in twenty twenty three, which
is the last year that I have data on, there
were between two hundred and twenty five thousand and two
hundred and fifty thousand babies born to illegal immigrants. They
believe that this could impact up to four point three
(11:51):
million retroactively births, because remember Trump did this, and the
way they're gonna work it out and the way they're
gonna move forward is TVD. But it could impact up
to four point three million children. So it's a huge,
huge deal. But when we're talking about historical significance and
moving forward, that number obviously is going to be even larger.
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So the language in the fourteenth Amendment was derived from
the eighteen sixty six Civil Rights Act, So this is
again right after the Civil War. The intent was to
give citizenship to freed slaves and the children of freed slaves,
and the language in that eighteen sixty six Civil Rights
Act from which this was derived said all persons born
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in the United States and not subject to any foreign
power would be considered citizens. Now, this also gets lost
in the shuffle. Two Supreme Court cases upheld that the
Fourteenth Amendment excluded citizens of foreign countries born in the US,
the slaughter House cases in eighteen seventy two and Elk v.
Wilkins in eighteen eighty four. Now, birthright proponents like to
(12:57):
cite the eighteen ninety eight Supreme Court case which was
United States versus Kim Wog or versus Kim, But they
conveniently forget that that case was about Chinese the child
of a Chinese parents that resided in the United States
permanently and lawfully. So the big idea here is that
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the fourteenth Amendment was intended to give grant citizenship to
freed slaves born in America and their children, not to
illegals who owe allegiance in our citizens of a foreign country.
And here's the key quote, Blake, this is the one
that everybody's going to be talking about and arguing around
in this Supreme Court oral argument, subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
(13:39):
And one last point, Blake, before I throw it to you,
there is a reason that American Indians did not receive
citizenship until nineteen twenty four with the passage of the
Indian Citizenship Act.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Now you have to.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Ask yourself why why did they not receive citizens They
were born on American soil, presumably, But this is the key.
They were considered to owe allegiance to native sovereignty to
their own tribal nations, and they were not automatically considered
(14:19):
to owe allegiance to the United States, and therefore it
took an extra step passed by Congress in nineteen twenty four,
the Indian Citizenship Act. So if everybody simply born on
American soil is automatically a citizen, you have to ask yourself,
why not the Native Americans. That's the question. I would
(14:39):
like anybody that is a proponent of birthright citizenship for
illegals or tourists or whatever to answer me.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Blake over to you. I know you got so the.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Wonkim Arc decision from the late eighteen hundred that's very
important because it gets one of the biggest lies they'll
say is that this is settled law. The Supreme Court
of the United States has only ever ruled on whether
birthright citizenship extends to the children of those legally.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
In the United permanently.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
That's all they ever ruled on legally and permanently, which
his parents were. And they've never ruled on illegal immigrants.
They've never ruled on birth tourism. And that is just
sort of something that liberals in the US federal government
just asserted. Lower level courts asserted it, and we let
them get away with it until it grew into this
(15:30):
huge tumor that is consuming the United States. As you said,
hundreds of thousands of births a year to illegal immigrants.
There are millions of people who have citizenship as a
result of that. Among other things, it causes illegal immigrants
to receive a huge amount of welfare benefits because even
if you're an illegal, if your anchor baby is a
(15:51):
US citizen, you become eligible for food stamps and.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
A whole bunch of other things. And it's all based
on this myth.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
It's based on a myth that it's somehow now just
obviously means anyone born in the US qualifies no that
line subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It means essentially owing allegiance,
owing fealty to that nation. It actually, if you dig
deep into the roots of it, it derives from legal
ideas of like owing loyalty to the king. Could you
(16:20):
commit treason against the king? If you are not able
to commit treason against the United States, then I don't
think it makes sense to say that you're subject to
the jurisdiction of the United States. Well, and I think
I'm hopeful the Supreme Court will rule that way. My
biggest fear is they'll try some pragmatic decision where they
would just say, oh, well, it would be too disruptive
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to change the law. I think the actual meaning of
the law is extremely clear that this level of birthright
citizenship we've had for so many years is not tenable
or defensible.
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Speaker 4 (18:07):
Jack Pasobic, host of Human Events, daily Turning Point contributor Jack.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
How you doing, my friend, dude, we called it, we
called the shot. Last week on Thought Crime, everybody said,
why why is Poso going so crazy about Netflix?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Why is the Stranger things? And what does this have
to do with everything? What is it all?
Speaker 7 (18:26):
And I'm sitting there, guys, I'm like, guys, we're doing
forty minutes on Netflix. And everybody was trying to figure
this out on Thursday, remember, and then it was Friday
the next day that it was like boom Netflix.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Let me let's just say, let's just say I may.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Have heard something from my little birds that something was
in the air regarding the Netflix buyout of Warner Brothers,
which would be disastrous. It would put Obama in complete
control of some of the most iconic American brands. You're
talking DC comics, you're talking HBO everything. So Obama aligned
Netflix charge with all of them. And we've seen, by
(19:01):
the way, what they've done with the pedophile content with QDs,
with this these very strange over and you know, we
talked about it at length last week, but this overly
sexualized content and LGBT content introduced in Stranger Things, and
it's like, guys, we we got to actually call this
stuff out when it's happening. So then all of a sudden,
Friday happens, everybody thinks, oh my gosh, Netflix is going.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
To buy Warner Brothers. It's done.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
And even even you know a lot of people who
work in the film business are saying that this is
really bad because they're gonna put movie theater out of business.
We don't want that, because we want movie theaters, we
want community in America. Still, it's like America's last public
ritual in many ways, like non religious, you know, secular ritual.
And then today, boom, you got Paramount in with, you know,
(19:46):
and you know, they're not perfect either, but way better
than Netflix.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
And they come in with this.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Hostile, hostile offer direct to Netflix's shareholders at so and
the key difference is here, Netflix put in eighty.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Three billion for their deal.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Paramount's coming in at one hundred billion, so eight it's
probably the hundred story in.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
The country, one hundred and eight point four, So it's
a bidding war. Paramount attempts hostile offer for Warner Brothers.
David Ellison calls Netflix his eighty two point seven billion
dollar deal value an inferior proposal and tells Warner shareholders
that his coalition, which to be clear, includes Middle Eastern
sovereign wealth funds. They promises eighteen billion more in cash.
(20:30):
So the question then is, Jack, why do you believe
that Warner Warner Bros. Is opting for an inferior deal
with Netflix? Is there is there an ideological fight happening
over this deal?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I mean, they're very well could be. You know, they're
very very well could be.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
A lok Zaslov from Warner Brothers has always been tight
with a lot of the guys over a Netflix And
look at it. You talk to ideology, right the ideology
that we've for so many of these executives is far left.
And who is on the board of Netflix right now?
Susan Rice. She was there from twenty eighteen to about
twenty twenty one. Then they signed a huge deal with
(21:13):
Barack Obama Michelle Obama. They're gonna be putting their content
on Netflix and have continued to put their content. So
then Susan Rice leaves, she goes to the Biden administration
until about twenty twenty three she comes back to Netflix,
and immediately after coming back to Netflix, Susan Rice and
Netflix announced what oh, another huge expanded deal with the
Obama family. This reminds me, by the way, Andrew very
(21:36):
much of the way that the NFL signed their Super
Bowl deal with jay Z and they gave over.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
The halftime show to jay Z.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
And of course turning point USA is very smartly I
think responding back in kind there. And so you've got
this situation where the audience doesn't want this stuff, the
audience doesn't want wokeness. And in fact, we just saw
a new study by Glad of all people. I can't
believe I'm citing Glad the Game Les Alliance, but they're
saying that actually looking looking forward next year, that LGBT
(22:05):
content and characters are going to be moving away from
shows that people are moving that we don't want Pete
quote anymore. So what we're seeing is this new alliance
of the Obamas, the far lefties, Netflix, and a bunch
of the lefties I think that are currently on in
the leadership team of the WB WB Discovery. And at
(22:26):
the end of the day, who's going to be hurt.
It's the average American, you know, the average American who's saying,
why is there so much of this woke crap, this
LGBT crap in like Looney Tunes and Batman and Superman
and just regular TV shows that you want to watch
or movies that you want to watch, and you're not
interested in any of that political or like gender bending nonsense.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's what this is about.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So it's interesting too because I remember when, you know,
Netflix was really starting to pour money into original programming,
and they would talk openly about how they were in
an arms race with HBO to become the streaming version
faster than HBO could become Netflix. Basically, they wanted to
become HBO fast and HBO could become Netflix. And now
(23:10):
you have with this Warner Brothers Discovery deal and Basicallyflix,
Netflix would acquire HBO, HBO Max will go to the
streaming giant, and then they the embattled cable network divisions
that's TNT, CNN, notably HGTV, the Food Network, and Discovery
will be spun out as a separately traded company. So
you have what you have here behind the scenes is
(23:35):
an ideological battle because Oracle founder Larry Ellison, it's the
sun Right of Larry Ellison, more conservative leaning, and they're
worried about CNN as well. You've got to imagine that
this is part of the calculus. They're worried that paramount
that the Oracle founders would essentially turn CNN into a
more conservative network. Meanwhile, Jack, just this morning, you have Trump. Well,
(23:59):
it was actually last over the weekend, you have Trump.
It was asked about this at the Kennedy Center event.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah. One sixteen. Let's hear from President Trump here. One sixteen.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Should they be allowed to buy Warner Brothers.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Should Well, that's a question. They have a very big
market share, and when they have Warner Brothers, you know
that chair goes up a lot. So I don't know,
that's going to be for some economists to tell. And also,
and I'll be involved in that decision too.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
So what's interesting about this is it comes off the
heels this morning, Jack of a another Paramount property, CBS
got into President Trump's ire, into his into his crosshairs.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And he may may have been a truth social.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It may have been a truth social. Yeah, and he
was basically asking. He's saying, yeah, you know, Paramount's not
much better. CBS isn't much better. Look at they've still
got the sixty minutes on. They're terrible. I want an
apology from Leslie Stall. What is that dynamic? Explain what
you think and what you're seeing behind the scenes there.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I mean, it's it's so clear, right, It's so clear
what's going on.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
Because President Trump knows that the administration has huge regulatory
authority here.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
This is something right now.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Obviously, the obvious anti trust problem is if Netflix buys
HBO Max, Right, So these are two of the biggest streamers,
and one of the biggest streamers buys the other streamer,
it would be like Coke buying Pepsi, and so you
would have it. This would create a monopoly problem. And
Netflix is trying to explain this way. They're saying, no, no, no,
you should you should consider us against all content out there.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I mean, look at TikTok, look at you know, Rumble.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
They're trying to say that Netflix is comparable to that,
and it's just it's just obviously not true.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's just obviously not true.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
So it's a huge anti trust problem there, which President
Trump of course responded to on the floor of the
Kennedy Center. He was on that step and repeat asking
that question. But here's what's interesting is that he comes
out this morning popping Paramount saying like, hey, hey guys,
no free ride for you either, because I'm going to
be watching you guys like a hawk because I saw
(25:57):
I mean, I have to look at the timing, but
I'm sure that he probably heard that Paramount's hostile.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Deal was coming in.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
And it also just broke that there was a secret
meeting where the head of Netflix actually went over to
the White House and they did have a meeting and
sat down.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
In the Oval office. That had never been reported.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
The White House didn't put that out because he was
trying to make sure there were no regulatory hurdles. Now,
President Trump coming in saying, you know what, just because
you guys want to come in, I know you got
my son in law on board, but guess what if
you wanted to be there to be no issues with you.
I want to see a little bit more fairness when
it comes to CBS, when it comes to sixty minutes
all of this. So, I mean, the balls really in
(26:35):
President Trump's court on a lot of this.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
And yeah, it's interesting you're watching the art of the
deal play out here where he's he's applying pressure to
both parties and so they're essentially both in a position
where they need to suck up to President Trump, which
is you know, which is probably just where the President
wants it.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And I mean, these are huge stakes.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
If people are not understanding why we're talking about this
deal here on this show, in the try kirkshow we
have to also understand that there's so many of these
cultural touch points, these cultural I guess seeds for either
wokeness or a return to common sense that are planted
at this level with these long form shows that have
become so popular. What kind of ideologies are getting spread
(27:17):
and implanted in the narratives and then they filter out
into our politics. This kind of stuff, I would argue,
is more important than about ninety eight percent of the
other things we can talk about now. I would put
birthright citizenship slightly more ahead of this, but there's very
few issues that are truly this important that have such
civilizational weight behind them.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Blake, I'm talking about go ahead.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
I mean I was gonna say, it's the cultural viewpoints,
it's where we get it from.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah, go ahead, Blake.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
I just think it's very funny how much people care
about TV.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yes, because people do. That's the point. That's the point
we're making. Whether they do, yes, do yeah, it's hugely important, Michael,
and our studio goes I care yes.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Well, where that people get their worldview from. Right, People
aren't gonna sit and you talk about birthright slidenship. Right,
People aren't sitting around and reading Supreme Court rulings. They're
watching Netflix miniseriies, right, But they will They will watch
a Netflix mini series on it, or they will sit
down and watch whatever HBO's got on it.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So that's why it's important. It's because people.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
That's where people get their story of the world, their
story of who we are, their story of who they are.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It's where they get their views on religion.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
It's where they and by the way, and studies have
shown go look at Marshall mccluan talking about this in
the sixties, that people have gotten their worldview from mass
media since the nineteen fifties on. They started with radio,
then it moved to television, and today's streaming is just
the newest iteration of that sort of streaming plus social media.
So if you're not paying attention to who's in control
(28:46):
of this, then you're not paying attention to who's in
control of the minds of the masses.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And that's what this is about. Who is in control
of the minds of the masses.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Well said, I agree with you, Jack, but Blake to
your point. One of one of the charming things about
Blake is that he's sort of immune from this and
he's pure. He's not he's you know, so I appreciate
we we work in tandem. It works together.
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Speaker 4 (30:19):
So before we get to this viral cinnabon clip, which
is you know, a classic case of you know, bad
white woman, innocent immigrant couple. I just we are still
continuing the debate. Blake, you think that TV is less
important than it's ever been. I agree with you on
that because entertainment is more diffused. Everything is more diffuse
(30:40):
and fractured. But it's still important.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
There's more, there's more things that competes with the video games, YouTube,
live streamers, pick, take your pick. But on top of that,
the most interesting thing with streaming services is it's reduced
the importance of anything new existing. So what's the biggest
value out of say, subscribing to Disney Plus, It's that
(31:03):
you can watch every Disney movie ever made, you can
watch every Disney TV show ever made. And I think
you'll see that. What's the biggest reason Netflix wants to
acquire HBO. It's probably a huge library that HBO and
Warner Brothers have, and I think that reduces the importance
of new shows. Everything that's ever made has to compete
(31:24):
with the Sopranos, Everything that's ever made has to compete
with the Simpsons, everything that's ever made has to compete
with I Love Lucy, Gone with the Wind, the Wizard
of Oz, everything that's ever been made it all is
still out there.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
A lot of it remains popular.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
I remember, at its peak Netflix, the most common show
to watch on Netflix.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Well after it went off the air, was The Office.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I think at its peak about one percent of all
Internet traffic in America was people watching The Office. And
I think that Jack is correct to say it dictates
a lot of what our culture is talking about and
thinking about. But it also dictates less and less by
the year, which I think we should be grateful for,
because you don't want everything people think about funneled through
(32:09):
a tiny number of choke points controlled by people who
are completely insane.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Well, like, I actually, real quick, I just completely agree
with you, because like, when's the last time a movie
became a classic?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Because think about that, like it's just whatever's new, there's
no classics anything.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Well, by the way, the Mash finale one hundred and
six million people tuned in for that. We don't have
that kind of stuff anymore. I mean, this is the
most famous one obviously. February twenty eighth, nineteen eighty three,
the finale of Mash drew one hundred and six million viewers,
becoming the most watched single episode in US television history
for decades with a seventy seven percent share of the audience.
(32:47):
It's like a third of the US population apparently. Anyway,
so this is this is pretty incredible. We don't have
these these cultural touch points anymore in the same way, Jack,
But it doesn't mean that the these you know, stranger
things isn't still massive, right, It's still it's still a huge,
huge show, you know. I But those kind of moments
(33:08):
where like Friends finale, the Seinfeld finale, we we don't
have as many of those. I think the last kind
of big cultural moment was probably Game of Thrones, if
I it's what I would say, breaking bad finale, breaking bad,
breaking But even though so much those mattered a lot
to sort of I guess the niche lead TV watching public,
(33:31):
but they were both on One was on a cable channel,
one was on a subscription special cable channel.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
So a lot of people watch those, but at the
same time not anywhere near the number who watched Friends,
Cianfeld Mash as you said, and the other thing we're
talking about, there's a lack of new classics, lack of
new classic films, but also a big flattening of what
genres actually take off. So you used to have go
(33:58):
check the top ten grossing films in nineteen ninety nine,
and you'll see rom coms, you'll see suspense films. Now
the top grossing films are pretty much exclusively big blockbuster
franchise films, your superhero films, your Harry Potter movies, that
sort of thing. You When was the last time a
film comedy was a huge deal that everyone in America
(34:22):
saw the Hangover?
Speaker 6 (34:24):
The Hangover came out fifteen years ago. People who were.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Born after The Hangover came out will be able to
vote soon. And that's another aspect of the way these
pop culture phenomena they still matter, as Jack says, but
I think they they mercifully do matter less, all right.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
So I mean I agree, but certainly I mean that's
this is really good fodder for a thought crime topic. Actually,
But I mean either way, right, you know, Netflix and
Paramount and Warner Brothers all matter. But to your point, yes,
I do think that because the biggest competition, right that
all of these things have that scripted, prepared, formatted, whatever
(35:02):
word you want to use for it content.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Has is actually social media.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
So the idea that because a YouTuber is just gonna
make it for free and throw it up on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So YouTube is a competitor.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
But I would argue that Netflix is fundamentally different and
all of those streamers are a fundamentally different thing than
YouTube because YouTube is a user created service. Rumble, of course,
which is so much better, is a user created service.
And so the idea or like shows like this, So
the idea that you know, we're we're some like we
don't have corporate backing. We don't have some like massive
(35:38):
you know, international multi national conglomerate behind all of us.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I know that's what the Internet says, but we actually don't.
And yeah, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
And so so it's so much cheaper, the ROI is
so much higher than because of that, we are able
to do more, We're able to be more nimble. And
that's it's new media, right, It's basically sort of like
an extension of the new media old media fight.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
All right, hold on, I gotta I gotta get to it,
because I promise the audience I got to play the
cinnabon viral clip here real quick.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I get forty one. Mediais and I'll say.
Speaker 9 (36:19):
That to the whole entire world.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Don't be just your life by the way, talking about
you're talking about respect.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
You're talking about respects. You bought a fire from this place.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
You're not going to be walking here.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Suck it, suck one. Look how you what's.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Wrong with you? Uls? Did I stand?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Stun it? All?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
So this was obviously meant to make bad white woman
innocent Somali couple. But the bigger issue Jack, and we
only have a minute left. I wish we could have
more time, is that these confrontations are happening more and
more and more, and we're inviting these cultures and having
these collisions. Is it the woman's fall, Well, obviously it
wouldn't recommend acting like that, but what's really going on here.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
What's really going on is that TikTok has created an
invertative set of structure for bad behavior and quote unquote,
we're going to catch people and cancel them. But the
way that people are fighting back against this new cancel culture,
I mean, this is like some minimum wage employee at
a mall and obviously, and you can see the video before,
we've seen this cycle million times, they're clearly being harassed,
and she harassed her to get content out of it.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
That's why they were filming in the first place.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
And so if you look at Gibs and go last
I checked, it's about to cross one hundred thousand dollars
for this woman because people are saying, Look, regardless of
whether we say we agree with what she did, this
is how you stop cancel culture, and this is how
you reverse the incentive structure.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Just stop harassing people at work. It's really that simple.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Don't harask customers, but don't harass employees either, just because you're.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Trying to get TikTok clout.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
And how many times have we seen people try to
do that for TikTok clout over and over and over.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Jack Misobaic Human Events Daily. Thanks so much. Jack.
Speaker 9 (38:02):
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