December 30, 2025 • 36 mins
Nick Shirley joins the show to talk about the gargantuan volume of daycare fraud and other theft from taxpayers by Minnesota's Somali community, all while Tim Walz called anybody looking into it a white supremacist. Tricia McLaughlin of DHS explains how the Trump Administration is getting involved, including the possible use of denaturalization to strip criminal immigrants of citizenship.
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I am if yeah, blink twice. It's called family vacations,
family holidays exactly. We're going to load up with this
Minnesota story. It's just it's so big, it's so important
because I think it's gonna unlock a lot of other
storylines that we're going to see play out in twenty
twenty six. Here to get us started is the great
(01:52):
Tricia McLaughlin, Assistant Secretary of Department of Homeland Security. She
is calling in. Tricia, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Andrew, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
We were been discussing it really all month, this this
story out of Minnesota with the Somalis.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It started with talking.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
About it was coverage of the autism centers, talking about
medicaid fraud, talking about all sorts of stuff. But now
it's really gone ultra viral, and we'll have them on
later in the show. Nick Shirley knocking on the doors
of some daycares, people becoming really aware of that there's
dozens hundreds of these daycares with supposedly hundreds of children
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at them, getting millions of taxpayer dollars. Some of them
may not exist at all, some of them may be
massively exaggerating how many services they provide. This has really
become it's gone insanely viral. I think Nick Shirley's video
is around one hundred and twenty million views at this point.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's gotten it's.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Become this symbol, I think, for a lot of the
right and really the wider America of the downside of immigration,
and it's been getting a lot of attention now from
the Trump administration, from DJ and your own DHS. So
how about you tell our listeners what's been going on
as a result.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Of that, absolutely, and thank you for having me so.
Right now, on the ground in Minneapolis, Homeland Security investigators
are going door to door to these suspected fraud sites,
whether it be daycare centers or healthcare centers, and businesses
around them as well to get more information and to
make sure we're following the money here and we bring
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arrests and prosecutions and ultimately removals. But if you rewind
a couple of months, while this is HFI, which is
part of ICE on the ground, we've also had an
ongoing ICE operation for the past two months, Operation Twin Shields.
We've arrested about five hundred illegal aliens, many of which
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are from the Somalian population. But as well, there's been
an ongoing USCIS immigration fraud investigation. We've had about a
thousand cases there so far and about half of which
we've found fraud.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, there's this word that has been making the rounds
on X and other venues, and that word is denaturalization,
And for those who don't know, that would refer to
basically removing citizenship from somebody who had gained citizenship before.
And America does that very very rarely, but it's getting
(04:33):
brought up, especially in relation to these fraud cases, because
if someone was engaging in widespread fraud from when they arrived,
that would seem like a valid grounds to say giving
you citizenship was a mistake and you should be removed.
Has there been any progress on that front? Do you
have anything you can tell us there.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah, so President Trump really since the start of his administration,
but then it really became a focus following the terrorist
attack against the two National guardsmen out of Washington right
ahead of Thanksgiving. There was really a focus on auditing
those who have come into our country, whether they have
(05:12):
had become citizens coming through visas or green cards, particularly
for these nineteen countries of concern. So that's something that
President Trump has made a major focus is these people,
sure did they come in a legal way? We're looking
at it. We're looking at did they come under fraudulent circumstances,
exploiting the system? Did they lie on their applications? Those
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are all things that would be grounds for deed naturalization.
So as far as on this specific Somalian front, I
don't have a specific update there, but across the board,
this is something that we're really auditing and recognizing the
massive amount of fraud and abuse that's happened in our
legal immigration.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
System, Tricia. We are seeing this surge of HSI all
the videos coming out. You mentioned it, but there's other
states that are now being highlighted as well. Ohio has
a huge Somali population, Columbus, I believe, is the second
largest population Washington State. There is you know a lot
of allegations that California has a lot of rampant fraud
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as well. Meanwhile, they're trying to raise a billionaire tax
five percent of you know, the wealth of billionaires to
pay for healthcare. Meanwhile, all this fraud is happening. Can
you hint at some of the plans that are going
to be outside of the state of Minnesota as well?
Is this going to be nationwide? What can you tell us?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Yeah, I think you're going to see that Minnesota as
a blueprint for what's going to happen nationwide. I'm actually
in Columbus, Ohio as we seek this is where I'm from,
and we see a lot of these similar a lot
of it's copy paste or similar networks as far as
the potential and suspected crime and fraud that we are seeing.
But I think what you're also going to see, and
(06:57):
we started to see this with the FBI and Home
and Security investigations, but you're going to see a lot
more action from the Treasury Department and other facets of
the US government that a lot of people, you know,
maybe aren't as familiar with as far as tracking this
kind of crime and fraud and abuse. So we're going
to be seeing more and more of that across not
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just Minnesota, not just Ohio, but across the country.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Right, And one other question here, Uh so, go ahead
and put up this political article. Trump admin can share
immigrants medicaid data with ICE A judge is ruled, Tricia,
how big of a ruling is this and what kind
of uh you know, what are you gonna what do
you expect to find here? And why did twenty one
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blue states sue the Trump administration to block them getting
this information? I was credibly informed that immigrants are legals,
do not get do not get medicaid?
Speaker 5 (07:57):
How many times are we told that over and over
and over? And I think that this is a very
first of all, it's a good sign because we also
have a similar case with the irs, the Trump administration.
I think I was in the first administration and this
administration far more than under Trump forty five, we are
doing much better at sharing information across agencies, and that
(08:20):
it makes us a lot more efficient so that we
can root out this fraud and also identify those who
are on the books who are getting medicaid are their
public benefits, and if they're in the country illegally, it
helps us to really target these people and remove them
from the country. So we've also are working on sharing
IRS data. But of course we're told time and time
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again that this is something that's not happening, This fraud
and exploitation isn't occurring. But it is. And I think
part of the reason that these states and these politicians
are so afraid but is it's going to show that
they were culpable, that they knew that this fraud was
occurring and not only let it occur, but enabled it.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well, that's a big, big storyline. We actually had our
Meat Dylan on yesterday talking about what it would look
like to indict a sitting governor, say Tim Waltz. But
I have a feeling that as we go down this
rabbit hole, we're going to find a lot of elected
officials we're culpable and complicit. Trisia mcgloughlin, thank you for
joining us. I know you've been traveling, so thanks for
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making the time. We appreciate it.
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a gentleman named Josh Gerstein, is making the rounds this morning.
Go up and go ahead and throw up one sixty eight.
So he's the legal affairs reporter or analyst or whatever
(10:39):
for Politico. He says, at some point the amateur effort
to knock on doors of home daycares intersects with robust
stand your ground laws and good focus on exert. Yes, no,
go ahead, read it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Stand your ground laws remove the duty to retreat from
a threat when a person is in a place they
have a legal right to be. Knocking on the of
a supposedly public business does not constitute a threat, so
stand your ground could not be invoked as a defense.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now I have a few thoughts on that, and.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
It's pretty remarkable. First of all, it's amazing to see.
I've been around for a while. I'm a bit older
than a lot of our you know, turning point base.
So I of course remember the infamous Trayvon Martin George
Zimmerman case, and I think that legitimately drove the left
insane on this topic, where they it's like the joke,
(11:31):
they just refuse to understand the core concept because they
were so angry that George Zimmerman was able to defend
himself from a guy bashing his head into the pavement,
and now they think stand your ground is a magical
thing that lets you just shoot anyone for any reason,
And no, it's never worked that way. It's definitely and
(11:52):
I think that the Zimmerman case didn't even apply to
as a standard ground one was normal self defense.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
So it shows their continuing thing.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
But the darker thing here that I think is worth
highlighting is what this clearly gets at. And I don't know,
and Gerstein seems to be manifesting it, but definitely other
people are is like the left really does have this
dark desire they whatever the law is, they really want
somebody to get shot in the face while doing this.
(12:20):
They badly want it to take place. And that's how
you end up posting stuff like this.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, I mean, think about what this so Nick Shirley
helps expose. I mean he sort of popularized what was
had already been exposed, which is an important piece of
any puzzle. So you have to understand that. So, I
mean I used to talk about this with Charlie all
the time. You know, our job was to sort of
popularize things that were important for people to know there's
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people doing good reporting out there. It needs to get
out there, and sometimes that's the job. Shows like this
and that's why we try and highlight good reporting. So
good reporting happens. Nick Shirley helps blow the lid on
this massive fraud scandal that's plaguing our nation to tune
of billions and billions of dollars in Medicare and medicaid fraud.
And instead of supporting the exposing this, a reporter who
(13:14):
is let me get this title exactly right, the senior
legal affairs reporter for Politico prior, ABC, White House and
China correspondent CNN. So instead of supporting this, he says, Oh,
when you expose fraud, you should kill these people. You
should shoot them. This is insane. This is why the
(13:36):
mainstream news media has lost so much standing in the
minds of the American population. Absolutely incredible thing to conclude
that you're in the business of exposing corruption if you
are a reporter, that is essentially your core job and function.
So Nick Shirley exposes corruption and fraud, and this guy
(13:58):
suggests that he should be shot in a standard ground law,
which doesn't And by the way, and you even get
it wrong, you're you're a legal affairs reporter and you
get the law wrong. I mean, the whole thing is
just absolutely asinine, and it's hard to believe that this
is like the state of American journalism.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Well it's funny too, because like they're speculating this about
public businesses, and Washington Post reporters will just show up
and knock on the door of your house to harass you.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
A fact. I know because Eric Wimple of the Washington
Post did.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
That to my house once in twenty twenty like disgusting people.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, it's a it's a pretty remarkable thing to watch
happen that you, you know, But this is why you
have to understand how much pushback that President Trump is getting,
how much pushback the Trump administration is getting. The fact
that Eric Swalwell and Nancy Pelosi are already talking about
what they're gonna do to President Trump and his cabinet
(15:01):
if they get power back in the House in twenty
twenty six. They're already gonna impeach him. They're going to investigate,
They're going to try and impeach cabinet members. All this
to gum up the works. They know they're not gonna
be able to remove these people but they're gonna try
and make their lives miserable, and that's the whole point.
They're gonna try and grab headlines. This is why Trump is.
(15:24):
You know the bases. You know they want results now,
they want they want more indictments, they want more prosecutions.
I fully understand that. I sympathize with that. I'm told
much more is underway in the works. But you have
to look at what they are doing. When good people
do good work and good journalism, when the administration moves
the country in the right direction, when the ship is
(15:45):
getting righted as it is right now. Rome wasn't built
in a day. But this is why they fight him.
It's a testament to the Trump administration of just how
effective they are if you just look at how varable
they've been treated, how they are, how Trump and the
administration are still viewed as existential threats to the Democratic Party.
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We are very fortunate to have the man behind the
biggest story in the country for the last couple of days.
That is Nick Shirley, Independent journalist. He's doing amazing work. Nick,
welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. And I have
to tell you that you and I wanted our audience
to know you were the last live guest on The
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Charlie Kirk Show before the news happened on nine to ten,
and so sort of a tragic reminder. But I'm just
so pleased to see how well you're doing, and it
brings us all joy to see the good work that
you're doing in Minneapolis and beyond.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Thank you. It's been a crazy past few days as
we've been uncovering what could potentially be one of the
largest fraud scandals in America history out here in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah. Absolutely, and you know you call it chasing pirate.
You know, I have to ask you, how did you
get turned onto this story in the first place.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Nick, Well, I've known about the fraud taking place for
a very long time, ever since last June. I made
my first visit to Minnesota kind of documenting how what's
been happening inside of the state, and then a lot
of the locals were telling me about the fraud that I
was taking place within the daycares they have their houses
where they're running home healthcare.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Business is out of But I could never I.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Couldn't dedicate the time to be able to get all
the information with everything else I have to do with
my YouTube channel, and so I was very fortunate when
this man by the name of David reached out to me,
and me and him were able to collaborate and he
was able to go out and get the numbers as
he's been looking in this fraud for years now, so
it was a joint effort and I was super happy
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to be able to amplify his voice and his work
that he's been able to do. Yeah, and with my
work as well.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, Well, tell us more about David. Who is he?
And you know, how do people follow him? Follow his
work as well? I was trying to look around. I
didn't see much on him.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
He's just a local legend, displain and simple.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
He's a lifelong local legend in Minnesota, and we have
to keep him pretty non you know. I can't say
too much about him because people are even recognizing him
out in places, and I don't want anything to happen
to David. So he's just a local legend that cares
a lot about his city, wants the best for his city,
and is sick of seeing American pirates steal money from
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hard working tax thank citizen tunes.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, that's amazing, so so Nick, first question, second question, brother,
is what has what has it been like to see
the Attorney General of the United States tagging you in posts.
The FBI is responding, did you have any inkling when
you were doing this investigation that it had this potential?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I knew it had a lot of potential, and I'm
super happy to see how people are reacting to it now.
And it's also very sad to see how people are
trying to justify the fraud. It's pretty hilarious, actually, but
it's actually amazing how the Trump adminstration because this is
a great opportunity for them to go in and really
show people, Okay, we're paying attention, like.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What what do you make?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
And it did more than all their mainstream networks in
one day.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
What do you make of this, Washington Post reporter, I'm
sure you saw this where he suggested that you deserve
to have someone pull a standard ground on you because
you show up at these businesses.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Well, I never tried to go inside of any of
the business as. I never forced my way into any
of the businesses. I simply just asked if I could
enroll a child just like a typical operation, Like just
a typical operation that a parent would go to when
he's decare centers. So I wasn't putting in force or anything.
I simply just asking can I put my son Joey
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into daycare? And they can answer that question, well.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah, I think that's people are noticing the quality leering thing.
But I think that is actually probably the best. The
best part of the montage for me is when you
just asked can I enroll a child here and the
person immediately responds why, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
It's like so obvious. And the whole thing with the
Quality Learing center too. It's hilarious because while Samalis were
bussing in children, but the commissioner of I think chat
one of the the Department of Children or something, she
was on a live stream at the same time talking
about how they closed the daycare.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
A week ago.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
So they had the Samali's bussing in children trying to
cover up. Meanwhile the lady who's in charge is saying
they closed the daycare a week ago. Meanwhile the video
had been filmed.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
More than a week ago.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
So and I posted the original video of me outside
of the daycare about a week ago, and then I
were able to produce entire documentary went out of at
home for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Nick, You've been pretty loud on your social media about
the fact that you think Tim Waltz needs to be
held accountable for this. What in your reporting has led
you to believe that the complicity here culpability goes all
the way up to the top in the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
I think nine billion dollars is a lot of money,
and so if the governor is knowing that all this
money is going out, I think the governor should know
about nine billion dollars being sent to these welfare programs
and these other businesses graudulently, and then there's nobody out
the businesses.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, in these neighborhoods, Nick, you've made some comment I
think it was on Fox News where you were saying
that this whole racket is kept alive by the fact
that these politicians need the Somalian votes. At this point,
they've become a huge voting block within the state of Minnesota.
When you're walking through these neighborhoods on the ground, what
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what percentage of the population does it feel like it's Somalian?
Are these neighborhoods almost entirely Somalian now they've kind of
moved in or is it fifty to fifty? What's what's
it feel like like?
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Ninety five percent in certain neighborhoods throughout Minneapolis. Wow, especially
in like areas like Cedar Riverside. I mean a lot
of these apartment complexes, I said on Fox, But a
lot of these apartment complexes white people, white people, and
anybody who's not Somalian have been pushed out of these
apartment complexes because they claim that people are is homophobic
or racist, and they're able to get the landlords to
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then kick them out because of those claims. And so
you have entire apartment complexes that are full of smaller people.
They're not even making money. In eighty percent of the
population in the small in population here in Minnesota lives
off of welfare. These people have four wives and they
run these day care companies. I'm out they're paying the wives,
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and so then those wives are able to also claim
welfare while they're receiving millions of dollars from the government.
It's a huge It's like a like the roots are deep.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
In this fraud.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah. I'm going to play a clip from Tim Waltz
here at Nick and have you respond to it where
he uh, he's accusing the Trump admin of white supremacy
one twenty.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
This is what happens when your own federal government wages
war against you. This is what happens when they target
communities for their own benefit. This is what happens when
they scapegoat. And this is what say happens when they
no longer hide the idea of white supremacy. When you
hear the Vice President of the United States talk about
now white people won't have to apologize for being white.
That's never happened once in my whole damn life. And
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I think everybody in this room knows what they're doing.
So we're here today to say enough of this. We're
here today to stand that Minnesota will protect their neighbors.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Nick, what do you make? Yeah? Go ahead, and in
total panics.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
He's in total panic right now. He doesn't know what
to do because he knows the frauds catching up. He's
trying to run for reelection. Meanwhi's trying to say, and
he should resign to try not take accountability from what's happening,
and then he's going to blame the white man.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Got you think you it really?
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Tim Wallas always strikes me as he's like a time
warp from twenty fifteen or twenty seventeen. There's just this
type of person, and he's that type of person where
anything he doesn't like, he's just going to instantly shut
it down by pointing and screaming racist.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And the sad thing is it's Minnesota, so it might work.
Have you heard anything?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Have you heard anything from locals in Minnesota who've reached
out to you or sent you any interesting stories for
follow ups or just interesting anecdotes you think might be
good to share.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Oh, I've received thousands of messages from people in Minnesota.
Everyone's thankful that this frost being exposed. Nobody wants their
money going to fraudulent businesses like daycares or even have
the big having the potential that to be wired off
to Somalia. Our money should stay here inside the United States,
especially if it's tax dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yep, yep. Nick, What are you planning on doing next? Nick?
Can you give us a hint of what you're currently
working on? Are you going to stay on the fraud beat?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
There's a lot of fraud happening here in Minnesota. So
I have a part two coming out very soon of
the fraud because there's a whole other layer of that
that we weren't even able to put into this first
video and so we're working on that as well.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
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to just mention that and has has your ability to
do your work on the ground, has it changed, given
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just how much your profile has increased.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Yeah, it's changed exponentially. So without Black Liang Guardian, it's
actually really cool because it's just essentially a nonprofit that
Auserkatum set up a while back, and all the funds
go directly to me. So like right now I have
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essential because people are I mean, people are doxing might me.
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They're doctioning like members of my family yep. And so
it's like actually very worrisome, like like some Indian Indian
newspaper did a whole entire article docsing my family yesterday.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
I was like, what the heck?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, and I don't.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Claim my family being very like it's like sad and
it's like, are you serious. Well, I never wanted to
have to ask you.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yeah, I know, as Nick, I can say as somebody
who's lived through doxing in the recent months, it's a
pretty terrible experience. And when the family gets involved, when
they start targeting family members, it's it's awful. So again,
please stay safe, Nick. We can't wait for part two.
I know you got to run because you're you're chasing
pirates right now. You're on the road, so you know,
(28:10):
God bless you. Stay safe and thanks for making the
time coming on the show.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Of course, thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, and you know, thanks for being the last live
guest on the show on nine to ten, which is
it's pretty creepy but in some ways fitting seeing the
great things that you're doing now, so you know you're
you're the baton has passed to a lot of people
and you're one of them. Nick, So god speed, my.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Friend, Thank you. We need to carry on the legacy.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, man, God love you, Bye bye, see it. Nick Shirley,
he's out literally right now. We're gonna do it video
and he calls me and he goes, hey, I can't
do it because I'm out chasing pirates. Can I do it?
Call in?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I just want to throw out this point that I
think is very important.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Which it's good for us to expose the fraud that's
going on with these dick here and dedicaid things, but
also we just shouldn't do this in the first place
with people that were bringing from the other side of
the world. If they need infinite welfare for medicaid, for daycare,
for everything, they probably just shouldn't be here in the
first place.
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I think a lot of.
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People yeah really like him. Uh, We've got you know
what a hero? Keep on this story we have. Thank
you for inviting Nick, this kid in quotes as an
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Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. And what a year it's been.
It's been a terrible year. It's been a tragic year.
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of a terrible, terrible storm. And so and you guys
in the audience have been a huge part of that,
your support. I mean when we went to Amfest, Blake,
I actually didn't get to confer with you on this,
but at Amfest it was I think I was honest
with the audience. I said, I wasn't really looking forward
to it this year. I was kind of dreading it
because it was the first one without Charlie. And then I,
you know, win in kind of because I had to, honestly,
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and you guys gave me so much love and support
and encouragement. And I'm sure Blake you experienced that too.
That proved me wrong was huge, and the members podcast
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was reflecting on Amfest and all the love we got.
(32:23):
Did you get Did you get some attention there, Blake?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
This is a little bit I stopped. I would always
stop and take photos with people. I think that's a
that's a good rule Charlie gave me. If if someone wants
to take a photo with you always say yes. I
think that's a good principle to follow. I had to
wear my blue blazer three days in a row, which
might have staked a bit by the end.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
But I only have one. I only have one notable blazer.
I'm not gonna wear some normal.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
You know, Blake, I missed a good Christmas present for you.
I should have got you a gift card to Macy's
so you could.
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No, you can't have You can't just buy a copy
of the LA That's not not gonna get you.
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It doesn't work a way.
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Don't get the same one. I'm just I'm you know,
I'm suggesting maybe branch out a little bit. We're gonna
get your your glow up going on here soon, Blake.
There's a clip here though, I want to play. And
of course I misplaced at one thirty four.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
Tim Walls saying there's organized crime in Minnesota. What did
he do about it? Nothing? You've got organized crime?
Speaker 6 (33:21):
What do you?
Speaker 10 (33:22):
What are you doing? This is the Minnesota law which
mandates that anyone who knows a fraud and as a
state employee, must report that fraud. It's Minnesota Statue three
point ninety seventy one Subdivision nine. Not only that, but
Walls is also guilty of misconduct of a public employee.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
All right, Blake, you're the contrarian. We had our meat
Dylan on yesterday. Everybody is calling for Tim Watz's to
either resign or they want an indictment. This stuff takes time.
There's no doubt. You got to build a case that
is actually will hold up in court. What is a
contrarian as a little bit of a you know, pump
the brakes on the legal side. What do you think
(34:04):
the odds are that we get some actual accountability at
the top levels of the Minnesota government.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Low, Probably they might try it.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
But I think the one trouble is, I'll be honest,
is when people just below that they want someone arrested. Sometimes,
let's be real, our side sometimes goes off a little
half cocked. I think the most important thing is actually
getting the fraud itself, which is all these daycares, which
is all these facilities. If you were going to get
someone at the top, I think the best shot would
(34:33):
be Keith Ellison. Keith Elison is clearly this sinister figure.
He's very clearly a radical. He is dishonest. I mean
he did that whole posing with the Antifa handbook in
twenty twenty. He's a lunatic, I think, and also I
just don't think he's that smart. Overall, I think he's
probably your best shot if you were going to bring
down a major person. But it's gonna be tough because
(34:56):
in the end, a lot of this comes down to
a traditional normal have prosecutorial discretion. They knew this was
going on, and they just chose not to stop it.
And the sad thing is, there's not that much you
can do if someone if they're not directly benefiting from
the crime, they just don't care that it's happening because
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they like the people committing it. It's just like the
police forces who let the rioter, you know, they abandoned
a Minneapolis police precinct and let it get burned down.
They let rioters just terrorize people. That stuff is morally abhorrent.
It's completely evil, but it traditionally, at least is not
something we normally prosecute as a crime, perhaps because it's
(35:40):
basically unthinkable, And I guess I would just warn people.
The best way to make them accountable for this is
to make sure we have a good campaign for governor
in Minnesota and try to unseat him, and failing that,
probably the best thing you can do if you're a
Minnesota resident is get out. No, that's a frustrating piece
(36:01):
of advice, but it's a If you look at the numbers,
Minnesota is a state that it's absolutely bleeding anyone who's
a taxpayer, anyone who's a functional member of society. The
left in Minnesota is going all in on we should
import as many refugees as possible, we should admit as
many parasites as possible, and we should wage war on
anyone who's functional, who's law abiding, who is a person
(36:25):
you would want in your state.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And we're seeing the outcomes of that.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, I didn't realize they were having a net outflow
of productive cities, one of the worst.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
They're like New York or California in terms of driving
out people.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
No kidding, And that's really sad. In Minnesota's historically been
a pretty functioning state, despite being a yes wing state.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yes, they used to be one of the best. We
have to admit it, and now they're not.
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Minnesota story. It's just it's so big, it's so important
because I think it's gonna unlock a lot of other
storylines that we're going to see play out in twenty
twenty six. Here to get us started is the great
(01:52):
Tricia McLaughlin, Assistant Secretary of Department of Homeland Security. She
is calling in. Tricia, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Andrew, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
We were been discussing it really all month, this this
story out of Minnesota with the Somalis.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It started with talking.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
About it was coverage of the autism centers, talking about
medicaid fraud, talking about all sorts of stuff. But now
it's really gone ultra viral, and we'll have them on
later in the show. Nick Shirley knocking on the doors
of some daycares, people becoming really aware of that there's
dozens hundreds of these daycares with supposedly hundreds of children
(02:35):
at them, getting millions of taxpayer dollars. Some of them
may not exist at all, some of them may be
massively exaggerating how many services they provide. This has really
become it's gone insanely viral. I think Nick Shirley's video
is around one hundred and twenty million views at this point.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's gotten it's.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Become this symbol, I think, for a lot of the
right and really the wider America of the downside of immigration,
and it's been getting a lot of attention now from
the Trump administration, from DJ and your own DHS. So
how about you tell our listeners what's been going on
as a result.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Of that, absolutely, and thank you for having me so.
Right now, on the ground in Minneapolis, Homeland Security investigators
are going door to door to these suspected fraud sites,
whether it be daycare centers or healthcare centers, and businesses
around them as well to get more information and to
make sure we're following the money here and we bring
(03:33):
arrests and prosecutions and ultimately removals. But if you rewind
a couple of months, while this is HFI, which is
part of ICE on the ground, we've also had an
ongoing ICE operation for the past two months, Operation Twin Shields.
We've arrested about five hundred illegal aliens, many of which
(03:56):
are from the Somalian population. But as well, there's been
an ongoing USCIS immigration fraud investigation. We've had about a
thousand cases there so far and about half of which
we've found fraud.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, there's this word that has been making the rounds
on X and other venues, and that word is denaturalization,
And for those who don't know, that would refer to
basically removing citizenship from somebody who had gained citizenship before.
And America does that very very rarely, but it's getting
(04:33):
brought up, especially in relation to these fraud cases, because
if someone was engaging in widespread fraud from when they arrived,
that would seem like a valid grounds to say giving
you citizenship was a mistake and you should be removed.
Has there been any progress on that front? Do you
have anything you can tell us there.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah, so President Trump really since the start of his administration,
but then it really became a focus following the terrorist
attack against the two National guardsmen out of Washington right
ahead of Thanksgiving. There was really a focus on auditing
those who have come into our country, whether they have
(05:12):
had become citizens coming through visas or green cards, particularly
for these nineteen countries of concern. So that's something that
President Trump has made a major focus is these people,
sure did they come in a legal way? We're looking
at it. We're looking at did they come under fraudulent circumstances,
exploiting the system? Did they lie on their applications? Those
(05:35):
are all things that would be grounds for deed naturalization.
So as far as on this specific Somalian front, I
don't have a specific update there, but across the board,
this is something that we're really auditing and recognizing the
massive amount of fraud and abuse that's happened in our
legal immigration.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
System, Tricia. We are seeing this surge of HSI all
the videos coming out. You mentioned it, but there's other
states that are now being highlighted as well. Ohio has
a huge Somali population, Columbus, I believe, is the second
largest population Washington State. There is you know a lot
of allegations that California has a lot of rampant fraud
(06:15):
as well. Meanwhile, they're trying to raise a billionaire tax
five percent of you know, the wealth of billionaires to
pay for healthcare. Meanwhile, all this fraud is happening. Can
you hint at some of the plans that are going
to be outside of the state of Minnesota as well?
Is this going to be nationwide? What can you tell us?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Yeah, I think you're going to see that Minnesota as
a blueprint for what's going to happen nationwide. I'm actually
in Columbus, Ohio as we seek this is where I'm from,
and we see a lot of these similar a lot
of it's copy paste or similar networks as far as
the potential and suspected crime and fraud that we are seeing.
But I think what you're also going to see, and
(06:57):
we started to see this with the FBI and Home
and Security investigations, but you're going to see a lot
more action from the Treasury Department and other facets of
the US government that a lot of people, you know,
maybe aren't as familiar with as far as tracking this
kind of crime and fraud and abuse. So we're going
to be seeing more and more of that across not
(07:20):
just Minnesota, not just Ohio, but across the country.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Right, And one other question here, Uh so, go ahead
and put up this political article. Trump admin can share
immigrants medicaid data with ICE A judge is ruled, Tricia,
how big of a ruling is this and what kind
of uh you know, what are you gonna what do
you expect to find here? And why did twenty one
(07:44):
blue states sue the Trump administration to block them getting
this information? I was credibly informed that immigrants are legals,
do not get do not get medicaid?
Speaker 5 (07:57):
How many times are we told that over and over
and over? And I think that this is a very
first of all, it's a good sign because we also
have a similar case with the irs, the Trump administration.
I think I was in the first administration and this
administration far more than under Trump forty five, we are
doing much better at sharing information across agencies, and that
(08:20):
it makes us a lot more efficient so that we
can root out this fraud and also identify those who
are on the books who are getting medicaid are their
public benefits, and if they're in the country illegally, it
helps us to really target these people and remove them
from the country. So we've also are working on sharing
IRS data. But of course we're told time and time
(08:42):
again that this is something that's not happening, This fraud
and exploitation isn't occurring. But it is. And I think
part of the reason that these states and these politicians
are so afraid but is it's going to show that
they were culpable, that they knew that this fraud was
occurring and not only let it occur, but enabled it.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well, that's a big, big storyline. We actually had our
Meat Dylan on yesterday talking about what it would look
like to indict a sitting governor, say Tim Waltz. But
I have a feeling that as we go down this
rabbit hole, we're going to find a lot of elected
officials we're culpable and complicit. Trisia mcgloughlin, thank you for
joining us. I know you've been traveling, so thanks for
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making the time. We appreciate it.
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a gentleman named Josh Gerstein, is making the rounds this morning.
Go up and go ahead and throw up one sixty eight.
So he's the legal affairs reporter or analyst or whatever
(10:39):
for Politico. He says, at some point the amateur effort
to knock on doors of home daycares intersects with robust
stand your ground laws and good focus on exert. Yes, no,
go ahead, read it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Stand your ground laws remove the duty to retreat from
a threat when a person is in a place they
have a legal right to be. Knocking on the of
a supposedly public business does not constitute a threat, so
stand your ground could not be invoked as a defense.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now I have a few thoughts on that, and.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
It's pretty remarkable. First of all, it's amazing to see.
I've been around for a while. I'm a bit older
than a lot of our you know, turning point base.
So I of course remember the infamous Trayvon Martin George
Zimmerman case, and I think that legitimately drove the left
insane on this topic, where they it's like the joke,
(11:31):
they just refuse to understand the core concept because they
were so angry that George Zimmerman was able to defend
himself from a guy bashing his head into the pavement,
and now they think stand your ground is a magical
thing that lets you just shoot anyone for any reason,
And no, it's never worked that way. It's definitely and
(11:52):
I think that the Zimmerman case didn't even apply to
as a standard ground one was normal self defense.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
So it shows their continuing thing.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
But the darker thing here that I think is worth
highlighting is what this clearly gets at. And I don't know,
and Gerstein seems to be manifesting it, but definitely other
people are is like the left really does have this
dark desire they whatever the law is, they really want
somebody to get shot in the face while doing this.
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They badly want it to take place. And that's how
you end up posting stuff like this.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, I mean, think about what this so Nick Shirley
helps expose. I mean he sort of popularized what was
had already been exposed, which is an important piece of
any puzzle. So you have to understand that. So, I
mean I used to talk about this with Charlie all
the time. You know, our job was to sort of
popularize things that were important for people to know there's
(12:46):
people doing good reporting out there. It needs to get
out there, and sometimes that's the job. Shows like this
and that's why we try and highlight good reporting. So
good reporting happens. Nick Shirley helps blow the lid on
this massive fraud scandal that's plaguing our nation to tune
of billions and billions of dollars in Medicare and medicaid fraud.
And instead of supporting the exposing this, a reporter who
(13:14):
is let me get this title exactly right, the senior
legal affairs reporter for Politico prior, ABC, White House and
China correspondent CNN. So instead of supporting this, he says, Oh,
when you expose fraud, you should kill these people. You
should shoot them. This is insane. This is why the
(13:36):
mainstream news media has lost so much standing in the
minds of the American population. Absolutely incredible thing to conclude
that you're in the business of exposing corruption if you
are a reporter, that is essentially your core job and function.
So Nick Shirley exposes corruption and fraud, and this guy
(13:58):
suggests that he should be shot in a standard ground law,
which doesn't And by the way, and you even get
it wrong, you're you're a legal affairs reporter and you
get the law wrong. I mean, the whole thing is
just absolutely asinine, and it's hard to believe that this
is like the state of American journalism.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Well it's funny too, because like they're speculating this about
public businesses, and Washington Post reporters will just show up
and knock on the door of your house to harass you.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
A fact. I know because Eric Wimple of the Washington
Post did.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
That to my house once in twenty twenty like disgusting people.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, it's a it's a pretty remarkable thing to watch
happen that you, you know, But this is why you
have to understand how much pushback that President Trump is getting,
how much pushback the Trump administration is getting. The fact
that Eric Swalwell and Nancy Pelosi are already talking about
what they're gonna do to President Trump and his cabinet
(15:01):
if they get power back in the House in twenty
twenty six. They're already gonna impeach him. They're going to investigate,
They're going to try and impeach cabinet members. All this
to gum up the works. They know they're not gonna
be able to remove these people but they're gonna try
and make their lives miserable, and that's the whole point.
They're gonna try and grab headlines. This is why Trump is.
(15:24):
You know the bases. You know they want results now,
they want they want more indictments, they want more prosecutions.
I fully understand that. I sympathize with that. I'm told
much more is underway in the works. But you have
to look at what they are doing. When good people
do good work and good journalism, when the administration moves
the country in the right direction, when the ship is
(15:45):
getting righted as it is right now. Rome wasn't built
in a day. But this is why they fight him.
It's a testament to the Trump administration of just how
effective they are if you just look at how varable
they've been treated, how they are, how Trump and the
administration are still viewed as existential threats to the Democratic Party.
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We are very fortunate to have the man behind the
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That is Nick Shirley, Independent journalist. He's doing amazing work. Nick,
welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. And I have
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Charlie Kirk Show before the news happened on nine to ten,
and so sort of a tragic reminder. But I'm just
so pleased to see how well you're doing, and it
brings us all joy to see the good work that
you're doing in Minneapolis and beyond.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Thank you. It's been a crazy past few days as
we've been uncovering what could potentially be one of the
largest fraud scandals in America history out here in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah. Absolutely, and you know you call it chasing pirate.
You know, I have to ask you, how did you
get turned onto this story in the first place.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Nick, Well, I've known about the fraud taking place for
a very long time, ever since last June. I made
my first visit to Minnesota kind of documenting how what's
been happening inside of the state, and then a lot
of the locals were telling me about the fraud that I
was taking place within the daycares they have their houses
where they're running home healthcare.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Business is out of But I could never I.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Couldn't dedicate the time to be able to get all
the information with everything else I have to do with
my YouTube channel, and so I was very fortunate when
this man by the name of David reached out to me,
and me and him were able to collaborate and he
was able to go out and get the numbers as
he's been looking in this fraud for years now, so
it was a joint effort and I was super happy
(18:51):
to be able to amplify his voice and his work
that he's been able to do. Yeah, and with my
work as well.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, Well, tell us more about David. Who is he?
And you know, how do people follow him? Follow his
work as well? I was trying to look around. I
didn't see much on him.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
He's just a local legend, displain and simple.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
He's a lifelong local legend in Minnesota, and we have
to keep him pretty non you know. I can't say
too much about him because people are even recognizing him
out in places, and I don't want anything to happen
to David. So he's just a local legend that cares
a lot about his city, wants the best for his city,
and is sick of seeing American pirates steal money from
(19:32):
hard working tax thank citizen tunes.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, that's amazing, so so Nick, first question, second question, brother,
is what has what has it been like to see
the Attorney General of the United States tagging you in posts.
The FBI is responding, did you have any inkling when
you were doing this investigation that it had this potential?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I knew it had a lot of potential, and I'm
super happy to see how people are reacting to it now.
And it's also very sad to see how people are
trying to justify the fraud. It's pretty hilarious, actually, but
it's actually amazing how the Trump adminstration because this is
a great opportunity for them to go in and really
show people, Okay, we're paying attention, like.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What what do you make?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
And it did more than all their mainstream networks in
one day.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
What do you make of this, Washington Post reporter, I'm
sure you saw this where he suggested that you deserve
to have someone pull a standard ground on you because
you show up at these businesses.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Well, I never tried to go inside of any of
the business as. I never forced my way into any
of the businesses. I simply just asked if I could
enroll a child just like a typical operation, Like just
a typical operation that a parent would go to when
he's decare centers. So I wasn't putting in force or anything.
I simply just asking can I put my son Joey
(20:59):
into daycare? And they can answer that question, well.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah, I think that's people are noticing the quality leering thing.
But I think that is actually probably the best. The
best part of the montage for me is when you
just asked can I enroll a child here and the
person immediately responds why, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
It's like so obvious. And the whole thing with the
Quality Learing center too. It's hilarious because while Samalis were
bussing in children, but the commissioner of I think chat
one of the the Department of Children or something, she
was on a live stream at the same time talking
about how they closed the daycare.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
A week ago.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
So they had the Samali's bussing in children trying to
cover up. Meanwhile the lady who's in charge is saying
they closed the daycare a week ago. Meanwhile the video
had been filmed.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
More than a week ago.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
So and I posted the original video of me outside
of the daycare about a week ago, and then I
were able to produce entire documentary went out of at
home for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Nick, You've been pretty loud on your social media about
the fact that you think Tim Waltz needs to be
held accountable for this. What in your reporting has led
you to believe that the complicity here culpability goes all
the way up to the top in the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
I think nine billion dollars is a lot of money,
and so if the governor is knowing that all this
money is going out, I think the governor should know
about nine billion dollars being sent to these welfare programs
and these other businesses graudulently, and then there's nobody out
the businesses.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, in these neighborhoods, Nick, you've made some comment I
think it was on Fox News where you were saying
that this whole racket is kept alive by the fact
that these politicians need the Somalian votes. At this point,
they've become a huge voting block within the state of Minnesota.
When you're walking through these neighborhoods on the ground, what
(23:02):
what percentage of the population does it feel like it's Somalian?
Are these neighborhoods almost entirely Somalian now they've kind of
moved in or is it fifty to fifty? What's what's
it feel like like?
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Ninety five percent in certain neighborhoods throughout Minneapolis. Wow, especially
in like areas like Cedar Riverside. I mean a lot
of these apartment complexes, I said on Fox, But a
lot of these apartment complexes white people, white people, and
anybody who's not Somalian have been pushed out of these
apartment complexes because they claim that people are is homophobic
or racist, and they're able to get the landlords to
(23:35):
then kick them out because of those claims. And so
you have entire apartment complexes that are full of smaller people.
They're not even making money. In eighty percent of the
population in the small in population here in Minnesota lives
off of welfare. These people have four wives and they
run these day care companies. I'm out they're paying the wives,
(23:56):
and so then those wives are able to also claim
welfare while they're receiving millions of dollars from the government.
It's a huge It's like a like the roots are deep.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
In this fraud.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah. I'm going to play a clip from Tim Waltz
here at Nick and have you respond to it where
he uh, he's accusing the Trump admin of white supremacy
one twenty.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
This is what happens when your own federal government wages
war against you. This is what happens when they target
communities for their own benefit. This is what happens when
they scapegoat. And this is what say happens when they
no longer hide the idea of white supremacy. When you
hear the Vice President of the United States talk about
now white people won't have to apologize for being white.
That's never happened once in my whole damn life. And
(24:36):
I think everybody in this room knows what they're doing.
So we're here today to say enough of this. We're
here today to stand that Minnesota will protect their neighbors.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Nick, what do you make? Yeah? Go ahead, and in
total panics.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
He's in total panic right now. He doesn't know what
to do because he knows the frauds catching up. He's
trying to run for reelection. Meanwhi's trying to say, and
he should resign to try not take accountability from what's happening,
and then he's going to blame the white man.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Got you think you it really?
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Tim Wallas always strikes me as he's like a time
warp from twenty fifteen or twenty seventeen. There's just this
type of person, and he's that type of person where
anything he doesn't like, he's just going to instantly shut
it down by pointing and screaming racist.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And the sad thing is it's Minnesota, so it might work.
Have you heard anything?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Have you heard anything from locals in Minnesota who've reached
out to you or sent you any interesting stories for
follow ups or just interesting anecdotes you think might be
good to share.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Oh, I've received thousands of messages from people in Minnesota.
Everyone's thankful that this frost being exposed. Nobody wants their
money going to fraudulent businesses like daycares or even have
the big having the potential that to be wired off
to Somalia. Our money should stay here inside the United States,
especially if it's tax dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yep, yep. Nick, What are you planning on doing next? Nick?
Can you give us a hint of what you're currently
working on? Are you going to stay on the fraud beat?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
There's a lot of fraud happening here in Minnesota. So
I have a part two coming out very soon of
the fraud because there's a whole other layer of that
that we weren't even able to put into this first
video and so we're working on that as well.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Wow, I Nick, I hope you're staying. Say if we
have the u r L down there black Line Guardianfund
dot com. Obviously here on this show, the Charlie Kirks Show,
we take that very seriously. And I please, if you're
watching this and you want to support Nick's work, help
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him with his security. It's really really important. Black Line
Guardianfund dot com. Please please please consider giving Nick some backing.
He's got to stay safe out there, and now his
profile is larger than ever. So Nick, if you want
to just mention that and has has your ability to
do your work on the ground, has it changed, given
(27:04):
just how much your profile has increased.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Yeah, it's changed exponentially. So without Black Liang Guardian, it's
actually really cool because it's just essentially a nonprofit that
Auserkatum set up a while back, and all the funds
go directly to me. So like right now I have
security with me and it's because of that, and it's
essential because people are I mean, people are doxing might me.
(27:27):
They're doctioning like members of my family yep. And so
it's like actually very worrisome, like like some Indian Indian
newspaper did a whole entire article docsing my family yesterday.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
I was like, what the heck?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, and I don't.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Claim my family being very like it's like sad and
it's like, are you serious. Well, I never wanted to
have to ask you.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yeah, I know, as Nick, I can say as somebody
who's lived through doxing in the recent months, it's a
pretty terrible experience. And when the family gets involved, when
they start targeting family members, it's it's awful. So again,
please stay safe, Nick. We can't wait for part two.
I know you got to run because you're you're chasing
pirates right now. You're on the road, so you know,
(28:10):
God bless you. Stay safe and thanks for making the
time coming on the show.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Of course, thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, and you know, thanks for being the last live
guest on the show on nine to ten, which is
it's pretty creepy but in some ways fitting seeing the
great things that you're doing now, so you know you're
you're the baton has passed to a lot of people
and you're one of them. Nick, So god speed, my.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Friend, Thank you. We need to carry on the legacy.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, man, God love you, Bye bye, see it. Nick Shirley,
he's out literally right now. We're gonna do it video
and he calls me and he goes, hey, I can't
do it because I'm out chasing pirates. Can I do it?
Call in?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I just want to throw out this point that I
think is very important.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Which it's good for us to expose the fraud that's
going on with these dick here and dedicaid things, but
also we just shouldn't do this in the first place
with people that were bringing from the other side of
the world. If they need infinite welfare for medicaid, for daycare,
for everything, they probably just shouldn't be here in the
first place.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Just support, deport, deport.
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Blake, We're getting lots of positive emails about Nick Sure. Yes,
I think a lot of.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
People yeah really like him. Uh, We've got you know
what a hero? Keep on this story we have. Thank
you for inviting Nick, this kid in quotes as an
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Yeah, Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. I want to as
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of your emails, So please Freedom at Charliekirk dot com.
Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. And what a year it's been.
It's been a terrible year. It's been a tragic year.
We've seen miracles, We've seen God's provision in the midst
(31:40):
of a terrible, terrible storm. And so and you guys
in the audience have been a huge part of that,
your support. I mean when we went to Amfest, Blake,
I actually didn't get to confer with you on this,
but at Amfest it was I think I was honest
with the audience. I said, I wasn't really looking forward
to it this year. I was kind of dreading it
because it was the first one without Charlie. And then I,
you know, win in kind of because I had to, honestly,
(32:03):
and you guys gave me so much love and support
and encouragement. And I'm sure Blake you experienced that too.
That proved me wrong was huge, and the members podcast
room was huge, and those episodes are dropping. So it's
been amazing for your supports. All right. So, Blake, I
was reflecting on Amfest and all the love we got.
(32:23):
Did you get Did you get some attention there, Blake?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
This is a little bit I stopped. I would always
stop and take photos with people. I think that's a
that's a good rule Charlie gave me. If if someone wants
to take a photo with you always say yes. I
think that's a good principle to follow. I had to
wear my blue blazer three days in a row, which
might have staked a bit by the end.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
But I only have one. I only have one notable blazer.
I'm not gonna wear some normal.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
You know, Blake, I missed a good Christmas present for you.
I should have got you a gift card to Macy's
so you could.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
No, you can't have You can't just buy a copy
of the LA That's not not gonna get you.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
It doesn't work a way.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Don't get the same one. I'm just I'm you know,
I'm suggesting maybe branch out a little bit. We're gonna
get your your glow up going on here soon, Blake.
There's a clip here though, I want to play. And
of course I misplaced at one thirty four.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
Tim Walls saying there's organized crime in Minnesota. What did
he do about it? Nothing? You've got organized crime?
Speaker 6 (33:21):
What do you?
Speaker 10 (33:22):
What are you doing? This is the Minnesota law which
mandates that anyone who knows a fraud and as a
state employee, must report that fraud. It's Minnesota Statue three
point ninety seventy one Subdivision nine. Not only that, but
Walls is also guilty of misconduct of a public employee.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
All right, Blake, you're the contrarian. We had our meat
Dylan on yesterday. Everybody is calling for Tim Watz's to
either resign or they want an indictment. This stuff takes time.
There's no doubt. You got to build a case that
is actually will hold up in court. What is a
contrarian as a little bit of a you know, pump
the brakes on the legal side. What do you think
(34:04):
the odds are that we get some actual accountability at
the top levels of the Minnesota government.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Low, Probably they might try it.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
But I think the one trouble is, I'll be honest,
is when people just below that they want someone arrested. Sometimes,
let's be real, our side sometimes goes off a little
half cocked. I think the most important thing is actually
getting the fraud itself, which is all these daycares, which
is all these facilities. If you were going to get
someone at the top, I think the best shot would
(34:33):
be Keith Ellison. Keith Elison is clearly this sinister figure.
He's very clearly a radical. He is dishonest. I mean
he did that whole posing with the Antifa handbook in
twenty twenty. He's a lunatic, I think, and also I
just don't think he's that smart. Overall, I think he's
probably your best shot if you were going to bring
down a major person. But it's gonna be tough because
(34:56):
in the end, a lot of this comes down to
a traditional normal have prosecutorial discretion. They knew this was
going on, and they just chose not to stop it.
And the sad thing is, there's not that much you
can do if someone if they're not directly benefiting from
the crime, they just don't care that it's happening because
(35:18):
they like the people committing it. It's just like the
police forces who let the rioter, you know, they abandoned
a Minneapolis police precinct and let it get burned down.
They let rioters just terrorize people. That stuff is morally abhorrent.
It's completely evil, but it traditionally, at least is not
something we normally prosecute as a crime, perhaps because it's
(35:40):
basically unthinkable, And I guess I would just warn people.
The best way to make them accountable for this is
to make sure we have a good campaign for governor
in Minnesota and try to unseat him, and failing that,
probably the best thing you can do if you're a
Minnesota resident is get out. No, that's a frustrating piece
(36:01):
of advice, but it's a If you look at the numbers,
Minnesota is a state that it's absolutely bleeding anyone who's
a taxpayer, anyone who's a functional member of society. The
left in Minnesota is going all in on we should
import as many refugees as possible, we should admit as
many parasites as possible, and we should wage war on
anyone who's functional, who's law abiding, who is a person
(36:25):
you would want in your state.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And we're seeing the outcomes of that.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, I didn't realize they were having a net outflow
of productive cities, one of the worst.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
They're like New York or California in terms of driving
out people.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
No kidding, And that's really sad. In Minnesota's historically been
a pretty functioning state, despite being a yes wing state.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yes, they used to be one of the best. We
have to admit it, and now they're not.
Speaker 9 (36:51):
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