December 10, 2025 • 35 mins
Erika Kirk appeared on Fox News's Outnumbered on Wednesday, and at the end of her appearance she spoke to Harris Faulkner about the whirlwind of theories and allegations thrown at Charlie's friends and allies the past three months. It's a response that is not to be missed. Plus, Rich Baris talks about the evidence of surging support for political violence on the left, and high schooler Gabby Stout reveals how her simple memorial to Charlie's legacy caused her school to bring a criminal investigation down onto her.
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
Everybody welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are joined
by Rich Barris, People's Pundit and check him out on
x all sorts of things. People's Pundit founder Big Data
poll Rich Bears. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Thanks for having me back, Andrew, It's always great, buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, listen, man, we were talking yesterday and kind of
getting some of the stuff ready for Amfest for you,
which you're going to be doing a breakout with Mark
Mitchell on some of the polling that we need to
be aware of what's going on. And one of the
things you brought up was the fact that with all
this conspiracy craziness going on, we're getting distracted off of
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the rise of left wing violence. And I just want
to alert everybody that as soon as I have a
clip that just happened where Erica Kirk was on with
Harrison Faulkner on Fox News on out Numbered, I'm going
to play that clip and I'm going to have it
in so if we have, but tell us about what
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we're missing when it comes to the rise of left
wing violence. What are you seeing?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, Andrew, this is a tragedy that we got lost
in some of the other noise and nonsense, really, and
we didn't have a conversation about some of the stuff
that we found, which is, you know, it happened right
under our nose and somebody's we're going to have to
start to address this and just to give people some ideas,
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you know, the right and it's fair to say, it's
a right talking point that comes to the right about
transgender identification having a link to political violence, and without
a doubt we found that. I mean, if you identify
as a trans person, you're twice as likely to say
that it's tolerable, it's acceptable to commit acts of political violence.
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And what that stems from is I mean, this is
the other side of it too, so we can't ignore this.
What that stems from is their perceived threat to themselves, right,
they think that they're constantly under threat from some form
of society or another, which you know, I find interesting
because I mean, I'm not obviously trans, but I don't
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see it.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But basically that's.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
The relationship, because it's not just the trans demographic. I
just thought that we had to look at that because
it was such a big part of the conversation when
we saw mass shootings, right, even when we were dealing
with Charlie's case, Right, I mean, this is all all
the stuff we've people have been talking about in debating
on social media, and it's there.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
That relationship is there.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
But I think also too, the left feels, and I
don't think they do. The left feels that it's acceptable
to commit acts of violence on their political opponents, people
they just disagree with, because they view speech itself to
be violence, Andrew, and that is the big difference between
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the left and the right. The right views violence to
be violence, and that's it, right. You can hurt sticks
and stones, maybe break my bones, but names will never
hurt me. You remember that saying? Does everybody remember that?
Because I was thinking about that when I was processing this,
you know, when I was a kid, that's what people said,
and it was a way to differentiate that. You know,
somebody says something may hurt your feelings whatever. There's a
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big difference between that and actual violence, right, And we're
just not teaching people this today.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We're not. And so many of these left wing.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Demographic groups have come up and have come to the
conclusion that it's all right to physically hurt somebody that
you disagree with, and that's stunning.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So it's just, yeah, Rich, I'm going to show you
this is that we talked about it a lot on
this show, but I'm going to put it back up again.
This is image thirty one. This is from you of
the economists right after Charlie's assassination, and the question was posed,
is it ever justified for citizen than to resort to
violence in order to achieve political goals? This is the
percent responding yes. And you look at that age cohort
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eighteen to thirty nine year olds, it's at thirty percent
of liberals in the eighteen to thirty nine bracket believe
that violence is justifiable to achieve political goals, and then
it you know, it goes down somewhat to in the
forty to fifty nine year old bracket. Are you seeing
similar results to this in your polling?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
The age signal is definitely there.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
If you're you know, if you're forty five to sixty four,
you're certainly more left wing than you.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Were ten years ago in that age bucket. But there
is still.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
A disconnect with the left's younger cohorts where they, just
like I said before, were not taught this very simple
lesson that actually, I mean, let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Andrew, They were taught the opposite.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
They were taught about microaggressions and they were taught about
that speech actually being violence. So they have this completely
different worldviews. So if you come to understand that, then
it makes I'm not saying it's rational. I'm not saying
it's right, but I'm saying it makes sense that they
commit so many acts of violence. We asked similar questions.
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That's such as we were trying to elicit an honest
response from people, and one of the ones that was
most illuminating was asking whether or not some people hold
such beliefs or beliefs that are so bad that acts
of violence are justified against them.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well, if you.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Have a media telling you that this one's a Nazi,
this one promotes this, this one does that, and you
believe that, well, then suddenly, Andrew, you become the hero
in your own story. You're putting down this bad element.
And honestly, we can go back to even the shooting
of Steve Scalise. We don't talk about this guy enough.
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This guy worked for Bernie Sanders, then he worked for
Hillary Clinton. He fully believed in the Russia hoax. He
believed Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Was a trader, and he looked at Steve Scalice and.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Other Republicans on Capitol Hill as enablers, and in his
own mind, he wasn't a bad guy. He wasn't a
guy who got a gun and committed a mass shooting.
He was a guy who was saving the country from
this infiltration. So, you know, I think the lesson here
is that we all really do have to be a
little bit more careful with our words. But we have
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entire institutions that are pushing these kinds of messages. And
you know, it's sad because we started to follow this
trajectory to have this discussion in the wake of Charlie's murder,
and we were, you know, my opinion, so close to
holding certain people accountable for.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Their reckless, reckless disregard.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
For anyone's safety when they use certain words to label
their political opponents. And we got completely sidetracked from that,
and we have to get back on.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It because it exists. It's real. It's dangerous to be
a political voice in America. That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, you look at what happened with Timpole. His house
got shot up. That's been confirmed by his team. He's
you know, he's been saying that he doesn't even know
if his show can continue on. Uh So, my heart
and my genuinely my prayers are out with Temple. I
mean this stuff you talk to Stephen Crowder. Stephen Crowder
literally goes around with armed security everywhere he goes. This
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should not be the way that we have to live
our lives in America if you're going to be a conservative,
and the reason you have to is because of that
that poll that you are conducting right now, the poll
that we saw from in just the immediate aftermath. So
Blake has a theory with this yugav poll that had
Charlie not been assassinated, that number actually would have been
quite a bit higher. That people were probably you know,
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maybe moderating themselves a little bit, and so that it
actually would you would have seen a higher number there.
Uh So this this whole agree with that, Yeah, I
agree with that. This whole thing is insane that you
can't disagree. And I just really wonder, you know, what
are the threats that they think are going to happen?
You know, what what voices are reading this on discord chats,
what voices are spreading this on Twitch? What voices are
(09:04):
spreading this anywhere that it's like, okay, that that that
that the some conservative is gonna bust down your door
and like drag you out because you're brown or something.
I guess that's like the message, right, that they need
to do this because of ICE or because of DHS,
or because Trump's a totalitarian or whatever.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
And and I we asked about social media use as well,
and I, you know, I don't even know what to
call these demographics, but these, you know, they're almost hysterical, right,
these hysterical demographics, their use of things like redded and
definitely discord and blue sky.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Of course they're on Blue Sky a lot.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I'm not calling for shutting anything down here, guys, you know,
just to be clear, but they're in their own echo chambers,
so they're not interacting.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
With other people to dispel these myths. Right.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
So if I was told constantly by somebody and we
didn't talk Andrew, that you know, you were this big
threat to me, right, and we never engaged and we
never interacted.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
With each I would never know that's not true.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
And I'm just hearing from the same voices over and
over again telling me that that's the case. So the
more we retreat to our own corners, to our true
socials and our blue skies, and whatever it may be,
the worse this is going to get.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's the echo chambers. It's the echo chambers. Yeah, Rich,
You're totally right.
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Speaker 3 (11:28):
We've got that clip ready of Erica on Outnumbered and
it is amazing.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
With Erica Kirk sharing her journey with America and the world.
We are grateful at Fox to have her here to
shine a light on healing as we all miss and
more in the loss of her beloved Charlie Kirk. Not
all of her journey has been without well, hate, conspiracies,
and oddly speculation about where her husband is buried. Now,
(11:57):
for the first time, Erica, Who's with me now, addresses
all of it from the perspective of a grieving widow,
a mom, and a battle tested American. Good to see
you again today, talk to me about this part of
the conspiracies that are out there. This disturbing part that
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people are trying to guess where Charlie is.
Speaker 8 (12:21):
Can I have one thing? Can I have one thing?
Can my children have one thing? Everything was public. We
will be building the most beautiful memorial for my husband
at Turning Point, USA, and it will.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Be for the world to see, and it will.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
Be spectacular and it will have a basically museum style
for our Charlie from my Charlie.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
But can I have one thing?
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Can my babies have one thing where we hold it sacred,
where my husband is laid to rest, where I don't
have to be worried about some secular revolutionary coming.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
And destroying my husband's grave.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Well, my daughter is sitting there praying one thing that
this is my husband.
Speaker 9 (13:08):
Yes he was Charlie Kirk to the world.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
And I know so many people love my husband, and
I am grateful for that.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
But this is my husband.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
And I want to be able to have one thing
left that is sacred to our family, to my in laws,
to my babies, and to my parents.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
One thing.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
What are they taking from you right now?
Speaker 9 (13:29):
Nothing? But I will tell you what they are doing.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
It reminds me so much of chapter six in the
Book of Nehemiah. He is building a wall, and the
townspeople are at the base of that hill, saying Nehemiah,
calling him all these names, saying all these things, come
on down. Every single time he had the same message
four times in a row. I cannot come down. I
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am busy building. That is how I feel. I do
not have time to address the noise. My silence does
not mean that I am complacent. My silence does not
mean that somehow turning point USA and all of the
handpicked staff that loved my husband and my husband loved
them is somehow.
Speaker 9 (14:12):
In on it.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
We are busy building. And you know what I thought.
I thought these people are human. We're all grieving in
our own way, and they are trying to find the
answer to something that happened that was so evil.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
They are trying so hard, and I get that we're
doing the same.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Anytime we hear a lead, or anytime we hear anything,
we send it to the authorities. Please dig into this.
No rock will be unturned. I want justice from my husband,
for myself, for my family.
Speaker 9 (14:41):
More than anyone else out there.
Speaker 8 (14:43):
So for me, you want to keep telling me to
come down, while we're building. I don't have time for that.
But here's my breaking point on that. Come after me,
call me names, I don't care, call me what you want,
go down that.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
Rabbit hole, whatever.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
But when you go after my family, my turning point,
USA family, my Charlie kirkshow family. When you go after
the people that I love, and you're making hundreds and
thousands of dollars every single episode going after the people
that I love because somehow they're in on this.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
No, you know, I have to say it. I've never
seen you like that.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
No, I'm very This is righteous anger because this is
not okay.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
It's not healthy. This is a mind virus.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Yes, I believe in our judicial jewdicial system.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
I do.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
We have a hell of a team working on this.
Excuse my French, but this is not okay.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
So you want to put these people back in the
box where they've been creeping from.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
I don't care what box you're in, but just know
that your words are very powerful, and we are human.
My team are not machines and they're not robots. They
are human. We have more death threats on our team
and our side than I have ever seen. I have
kidnapping threats. I have you name it, we have it,
and my poor team is exhausted.
Speaker 9 (16:11):
And every time they bring this.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Back up, what are we supposed to do relive that
trauma all over again. They watched my husband get murdered.
I have no idea how I would have reacted if
I was there that day, and think the good Lord
that I did not have to see that happen. But
my team, they are rocked the core. So why every
single day do they have to be dragged through the mud, analyzed,
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hyper analyzed?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
You know, the conspiracies that are out there are all
of the like, do you think that there is more
of it now? Because you do shine your light? I mean,
did people just expect you would just go away?
Speaker 9 (16:50):
I don't know what they expected. I don't know what
they expected.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
They pick on you because of your accessories. I mean
I've seen some of this.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Oh yeah, no, at this point, it's what the conspiree
collection get it before Christmas?
Speaker 9 (17:03):
Like, seriously, you will.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
If you want to find and pick me apart, go
right ahead.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
I do not care.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
I don't This was happening before Charlie was murdered. Both
of us have been through the ringer of people will
call you whatever they want to call you.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Quite the clip. I hope you guys enjoyed it. I'm
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Speaker 1 (18:21):
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Speaker 3 (18:26):
I want to bring on our next two guests here.
We've got Gabby Stout, who's a high school student, as
well as Tyson Langhoffer, who's a senior senior counselor with
Alliance Defending Freedom. The good people over at Alliance Defending
Free Freedom. And this is an incredible story, because well
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I want I'm going to have them tell the story. Actually,
so Gabby and Tyson, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Speaker 10 (18:52):
I thank you me.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, honored to have you both. Gabby, why don't we
start with you? Just tell us what you tried to
do to Charlie and then tell us what happened next.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yes. So I painted the Spirit Rock at my high school,
which is a large rock that you can paint to
express your opinions and beliefs. And I painted the rock
to honor and memorialize Charlie Kirk's life as well as
to honor God. On the rock, I painted a heart,
an American flag Freedom seventeen seventy six and Live Like
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Kirk John eleven twenty five. I painted these things because
Charlie Kirk loved our country and he wanted our generation
to also be proud of our country. I painted Live
like Kirk John eleven twenty five because I wanted to
give people hope that life doesn't end after death and
that Charlie Kirk is living eternally in heaven, which is
why I wrote John eleven twenty five, which says, I
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am the resurrection in the life. Whoever believes in me,
though he die, yet shall live. Only hours after painting
my rock was covered up by the school and I
was accused by this school as committing a crime and
that I vandalized the rock even though I had permission
from the school.
Speaker 11 (20:07):
Wow, the education system strikes again.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, where where can you tell me where your school
is located?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Yes, my school is located in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Unbelievable. So, Tyson Langhoffer, your senior counsel with the Liance
Defending Freedom, How did you guys hear about this incident
and why did you choose to get involved?
Speaker 10 (20:28):
Well, because you know, high school students should be encouraged
to share their beliefs and opinions on really important topics.
But they shouldn't be censored by government officials who disagree
with their opinions. And the school here has created an
opportunity on their spirit rock for students to share their beliefs.
Yet they didn't like what Gaby had to say, and
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so because of that, they not only censored her by
painting over the rock, but they then sent out an
email to the entire school community accusing her of vandalism
and saying that they have started a criminal investigation. The
next day at school, they called her into the principal's
office and they demanded that she write out a statement
without you know, reading her rights or telling her she's
under criminal investigation, telling her that she has the right
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to an attorney, or telling her she has a right
to remain silent. That's that's a problem, right because the
school officials have created this forum. Yet they're saying, because
you share this opinion, we're not going to let you
participate in that forum. That's a violation of the First Amendment.
It should never happen in America, and we want to
hold these school officials officials accountable for doing that.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I just don't understand how this becomes a criminal investigation.
Has that been ceased. Is that if they stopped that,
because that's patently insane.
Speaker 10 (21:37):
So after they interviewed Gabby and verified yes that she
had did have permission, eventually they silently closed the investigation
and said, well, she didn't do anything wrong. Yet the
problem is this had gone out to the entire Charlotte community.
It was on the news that she had been accused
of vandalism and that they were having a criminal investigation,
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and instead of hearing her name, you know, they just
silently closed it and acted as if nothing happened. But
it's not just. It's not nothing when the government actually
puts their foot on the scale and silence is a
high school student who simply wants to express her opinion
and treats her like a criminal simply for expressing her views.
That should never happen in America at a public.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Source, of course. So Gabby, what did it feel like
when you just expressed your admiration for Charlie? You took
part in seems like a civic ritual at the school.
You expressed your pride. It was a traumatizing event, I
know for high schoolers all across the country, and then
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you get treated like a criminal. Tell us personally, like,
what did that feel like? What was that experience like
for you and your family?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I was extremely intimidated. I don't get in trouble often
at school, and so I was very scared that I
could be getting in trouble for sharing my views in
my beliefs. And this has never happened to any other
student for such causes, and so my family and I
was very scared to go to school the next day,
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and my parents were scared to send me as well,
as I had no idea if I could go to
jail or what would be waiting for me as I
got to school.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I mean, I just find this so unbelievable. You're obviously
a very bright student, You're obviously well intentioned. You are
the exact kind of student that we should be hoping
is the product of our school system. And yet you
are getting targeted and called out and singled out for
doing something beautiful to honor Charlie. I just have to wonder, like,
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and maybe I'll throw this to you, Tyson, because I
don't want to get Gabby in any more hot water here.
I have to wonder, are there examples on this spirit
rock that you know, maybe celebrated LGBDQ. Are there examples
of you know, things that maybe conservatives wouldn't find so
appealing and were there any consequences for those those demonstrations.
Speaker 10 (24:01):
So several years ago, during the BLM movement, there were
there were BLM uh. You know, there were paintings of
be you know, expressing uh support for BLM, and in fact,
some other students you know, ended up painting other messages
on that, and the school officials you know, stepped in
and actually you know, uh supported the supporters of BLM
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and encouraged them to go back and repaint that over.
So obviously they allow political messages, uh, and they allow
they allow messages that you know, are on important topics
of the day. And and and they actually again so
you know, are are weighing in putting their foot on
the scale for certain views and trying to stamp out
other views. And that's the exact opposite message that we
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want our government officials sending to the next generation. We
want them to understand that the government allows all viewpoints,
that they can't censor certain viewpoints.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (24:57):
But you know, in fact, after Gabby did this, they
changed the policy. They now have a policy says no
religious or political messages, right, And we know who gets
to determine what's religious and what's political. It's these same
school officials who've already shown that they have a bias
against people like Gabby who just want to share their
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uh support for Charlie Kirk and their their support for
Christian values.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I find that really appalling actually, that their their reaction
to this would say it would would be to say
no religious or political uh, you know, spirit rock demonstrations.
I find that appalling because, especially in Charlotte, North Carolina,
I'm going to wager a guest here that that would
say that most people are Christians. Most people worship Jesus
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Christ as their Lord and savior in this part of
the country, and that is a very key part of
their their personality, of their of what makes them have
spirit in the first place. I find that actually a
really appalling thing. And to your point, who's going to
determine what's acceptable on that rock? What are the rules? This?
This is This is why say answership is a terrible
thing in the first place. But I don't want to
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get bogged down on the negative here. I'm so glad
Alliance defending freedom has stepped in. So thank you, Tyson,
and thank you to ADF for being a voice of
common sense and having Gabby's back. We have your back, Gabby.
I'm told Gabby that you are considering starting a turning
point chapter in the future. I don't want to put
words in your mouth, but if you do, we will
one hundred percent have your back on that as well. Gabby.
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The flora is yours here. We got about three minutes
left in the segment. Tell us what it was about
Charlie that so moved you. Tell us what he meant
to you, what he meant to you and your friends.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
I enjoyed watching Charlie Kirk. I've watched him for many
years and I admired him as he went across campuses
speaking to students, even people he didn't agree with, just
having conversations with them. And I was absolutely distraught when
he died, as I have never seen someone assassinated on
social media because of their faith, and he was trying
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to teach people truth and which is the Bible, and
he wanted people to be able to stand up and
defend their faith.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, really well, said Tyson. Final question to you, what
do you hope comes out of this. What does what
does victory look like here in this Charlotte School.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
Well, what we want them to change their policy. We
want them to have a policy which allows all viewpoints,
and we also want to hold them accountable for silencing
Gabby because of her viewpoint. They need to understand government
officials need to understand there are consequences for violating our
most deeply cherished rights, such as the freedom of speech
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and free exercise of our religious beliefs. And then I
hope we inspire. I hope Gabby's courage inspire students across
the country to wade in, to engage in discussions on
important topics, and to do it in a way that
Charlie did with grace and winsomeness, and doing it in
a way that encourages people to engage with people across
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the aisle.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, well said, I'm just I'm so I'm so proud
of you guys, honestly for standing up for what you
know is clearly right. Gabby, you have been egregiously wronged, Charlie.
The legacy of Charlie Kirk has been egregiously maligned and
unnecessarily so what you wrote was beautiful and thank you
(28:20):
for doing that. And I just want to say that,
you know, thank you to your parents who raised you,
to the community that brought you up and gave instilled
those values in you. And God bless what you wrote
Freedom seventeen seventy six, Live like Kirk John eleven twenty five.
That is exactly what a spirit rock is, not, a
mostly peaceful rock. Yeah, that you did everything right, Gabby,
(28:41):
and we bless you for that, We say, God bless you.
Please let us know. I know our team obviously we
got in touch for this interview, but if you want
to start a turning point chapter, we will work extraordinarily
hard to help you make that a phenomenal chapter. So
let us know if you choose to do that. God
bless you, guys, Tyson, thank you, and God bless the
ADF as well for stepping in.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Thank you so much.
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Gabby and Tyson, I just blake there's the world feels
so freakin upside down. Sometimes it's really, firsh I really.
Speaker 11 (30:23):
We said this yesterday. We love seeing the chapter heads.
We love seeing the rank and file turning point enthusiasts
because they're the people Charlie cared so much about. They
have that enthusiasm, they have that fourth rightness. They they
they haven't had the chance to frankly be jaded by
you know, we know there's so many difficulties in troubles.
It's never it's never easy. But they're they're always earnest,
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they're always happy to go. They yeah, email early with
everything they do.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Email us freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. Do you
like when we bring these students on? Do you want
to see more of it? You want to hear more
stories from these schools, because I think it's important and
it's one of the ways that that just I know,
how to honor Charlie is to show you the faces
and hear the stories directly of the students that are
on the front lines doing it. And Charlie was always
so good about this. He was always so good about
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giving those students all the credit and saying they are
the front lines for freedom in this country, and they're
the tip of the spear and they're doing the hard
things and we need to have their back because they're
standing up against backward school districts like that one in Charlotte.
Shame on that school district. Blake, you got to clip
lined up for us.
Speaker 11 (31:25):
Yeah, I just I think we should hit more of
the Trump rally. I think it's it's good. It's Trump
on brand, and we really want to highlight things where.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yes, you said this in the break actually, and I
was like, why'd you say it? You got to say
it to the audience.
Speaker 11 (31:35):
Yeah, So let's let's see up this bit here with
let's do Trump when he's talking about our favorite representative,
il Han Omar.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Let's Ilhan the ingrate.
Speaker 11 (31:44):
Let's play too to too.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Do we have any individuals from Somalia in the girl
please raise your hand.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's for Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
You know, that's called the Great Big Minnesota Scam with
one of the dumbest governors ever in history. This elin Omar,
whatever the hell her there is.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
With the little turban I love her.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
She comes in this is nothing, but she's always complained.
I love it. She comes to our country and she's always.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
Complaining about the constitution allows me to do this the.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Concert, we would have get her to hell out.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
She married her brother in order to get in right,
she married her brother.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
Now I should clarify what it specifically was is the
power Line blog. Those guys we had on last week,
they were the original guys who broke it. What it
seems she did is she was already married to her
real husband, only religiously, and then she legally married her brother.
And it seems this was a scheme to just get
more benefits from the University of North Dakota while she
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was going there, Like.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You could get better housing if you were married with Dakotas.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It was just it was pure.
Speaker 11 (32:53):
Oh, it's another way to get more crap from the
taxpayers for free, and then as soon as that was
no longer useful, throw it aside. Her brother, I think
might live in the UK.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Now.
Speaker 11 (33:03):
I would really love the Trump administration. It would be
a dream if they could denaturalize and deport her over this.
But even if that's not possible, it should just be public.
We should know what the truth there.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Here's here's my message to ilhan Omar. Keep doing exactly
what you're doing. You are a walking, talking disgrace to Somalia.
You are a walking talking billboard that will only further
our drive and our desire to stop the runaway, unchecked,
unfettered migration into this country. So keep being you, ilhan Omar,
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I Hope.
Speaker 11 (33:36):
And you two Jazmine, We're pulling for you in this nomination. No,
we would never want to get rid of Jo. Make
more videos of you standing, Jasmine. Go all out, be
the most Jasmine Crocket you can crock it. I want
you to be the most. We want Jazz, Max Jazz.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Jazz. You need to go Max. You and ilhan Omar
need to do a tour. I want you to sell
the tickets. I want you to go to every deep
blue district you can find, and I want you to
sell those tickets. Go to Berkeley, go straight up to the.
Speaker 11 (34:12):
Go to the Big go to every swing state.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Go to the swing state. Swing state tour. Jasmine Crockett
and ilhan Omar, you can bring Rashida to leave if
you want. And you just tell everybody we need more
of you, that we need to open our borders and
more green cards and more visas for all of you
because you are such a disgrace to your countries. And
we will. And I tell you what everywhere they go, Blake,
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we are going to be flocking to the polls to
vote for no more unfettered mass migration. The globalists are
gonna lose every time you open your mouth. So please
just be extra special. This be extra special this Christmas.
Speaker 11 (34:52):
We have forty seconds left. This was I think this
is a good day to highlight. They're a good things.
There are good people on the base who are honoring
Charlie getting in like that student. And there are real
winds we're dismantling desperate impact. We have literally secured the border.
We've secured it so hard we can't even report on
it anymore because nothing is happening there anymore.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
And by the way, I just want to say this
holiday season, my prayers are with the brave men and
women DHS and ICE that are leading the mass deportations
in places like Minneapolis. God bless them.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
Everybody welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are joined
by Rich Barris, People's Pundit and check him out on
x all sorts of things. People's Pundit founder Big Data
poll Rich Bears. Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Thanks for having me back, Andrew, It's always great, buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, listen, man, we were talking yesterday and kind of
getting some of the stuff ready for Amfest for you,
which you're going to be doing a breakout with Mark
Mitchell on some of the polling that we need to
be aware of what's going on. And one of the
things you brought up was the fact that with all
this conspiracy craziness going on, we're getting distracted off of
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the rise of left wing violence. And I just want
to alert everybody that as soon as I have a
clip that just happened where Erica Kirk was on with
Harrison Faulkner on Fox News on out Numbered, I'm going
to play that clip and I'm going to have it
in so if we have, but tell us about what
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we're missing when it comes to the rise of left
wing violence. What are you seeing?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, Andrew, this is a tragedy that we got lost
in some of the other noise and nonsense, really, and
we didn't have a conversation about some of the stuff
that we found, which is, you know, it happened right
under our nose and somebody's we're going to have to
start to address this and just to give people some ideas,
(02:34):
you know, the right and it's fair to say, it's
a right talking point that comes to the right about
transgender identification having a link to political violence, and without
a doubt we found that. I mean, if you identify
as a trans person, you're twice as likely to say
that it's tolerable, it's acceptable to commit acts of political violence.
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And what that stems from is I mean, this is
the other side of it too, so we can't ignore this.
What that stems from is their perceived threat to themselves, right,
they think that they're constantly under threat from some form
of society or another, which you know, I find interesting
because I mean, I'm not obviously trans, but I don't
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see it.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But basically that's.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
The relationship, because it's not just the trans demographic. I
just thought that we had to look at that because
it was such a big part of the conversation when
we saw mass shootings, right, even when we were dealing
with Charlie's case, Right, I mean, this is all all
the stuff we've people have been talking about in debating
on social media, and it's there.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
That relationship is there.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
But I think also too, the left feels, and I
don't think they do. The left feels that it's acceptable
to commit acts of violence on their political opponents, people
they just disagree with, because they view speech itself to
be violence, Andrew, and that is the big difference between
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the left and the right. The right views violence to
be violence, and that's it, right. You can hurt sticks
and stones, maybe break my bones, but names will never
hurt me. You remember that saying? Does everybody remember that?
Because I was thinking about that when I was processing this,
you know, when I was a kid, that's what people said,
and it was a way to differentiate that. You know,
somebody says something may hurt your feelings whatever. There's a
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big difference between that and actual violence, right, And we're
just not teaching people this today.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
We're not. And so many of these left wing.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Demographic groups have come up and have come to the
conclusion that it's all right to physically hurt somebody that
you disagree with, and that's stunning.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So it's just, yeah, Rich, I'm going to show you
this is that we talked about it a lot on
this show, but I'm going to put it back up again.
This is image thirty one. This is from you of
the economists right after Charlie's assassination, and the question was posed,
is it ever justified for citizen than to resort to
violence in order to achieve political goals? This is the
percent responding yes. And you look at that age cohort
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eighteen to thirty nine year olds, it's at thirty percent
of liberals in the eighteen to thirty nine bracket believe
that violence is justifiable to achieve political goals, and then
it you know, it goes down somewhat to in the
forty to fifty nine year old bracket. Are you seeing
similar results to this in your polling?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
The age signal is definitely there.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
If you're you know, if you're forty five to sixty four,
you're certainly more left wing than you.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Were ten years ago in that age bucket. But there
is still.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
A disconnect with the left's younger cohorts where they, just
like I said before, were not taught this very simple
lesson that actually, I mean, let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Andrew, They were taught the opposite.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
They were taught about microaggressions and they were taught about
that speech actually being violence. So they have this completely
different worldviews. So if you come to understand that, then
it makes I'm not saying it's rational. I'm not saying
it's right, but I'm saying it makes sense that they
commit so many acts of violence. We asked similar questions.
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That's such as we were trying to elicit an honest
response from people, and one of the ones that was
most illuminating was asking whether or not some people hold
such beliefs or beliefs that are so bad that acts
of violence are justified against them.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well, if you.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Have a media telling you that this one's a Nazi,
this one promotes this, this one does that, and you
believe that, well, then suddenly, Andrew, you become the hero
in your own story. You're putting down this bad element.
And honestly, we can go back to even the shooting
of Steve Scalise. We don't talk about this guy enough.
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This guy worked for Bernie Sanders, then he worked for
Hillary Clinton. He fully believed in the Russia hoax. He
believed Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Was a trader, and he looked at Steve Scalice and.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Other Republicans on Capitol Hill as enablers, and in his
own mind, he wasn't a bad guy. He wasn't a
guy who got a gun and committed a mass shooting.
He was a guy who was saving the country from
this infiltration. So, you know, I think the lesson here
is that we all really do have to be a
little bit more careful with our words. But we have
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entire institutions that are pushing these kinds of messages. And
you know, it's sad because we started to follow this
trajectory to have this discussion in the wake of Charlie's murder,
and we were, you know, my opinion, so close to
holding certain people accountable for.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Their reckless, reckless disregard.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
For anyone's safety when they use certain words to label
their political opponents. And we got completely sidetracked from that,
and we have to get back on.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It because it exists. It's real. It's dangerous to be
a political voice in America. That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, you look at what happened with Timpole. His house
got shot up. That's been confirmed by his team. He's
you know, he's been saying that he doesn't even know
if his show can continue on. Uh So, my heart
and my genuinely my prayers are out with Temple. I
mean this stuff you talk to Stephen Crowder. Stephen Crowder
literally goes around with armed security everywhere he goes. This
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should not be the way that we have to live
our lives in America if you're going to be a conservative,
and the reason you have to is because of that
that poll that you are conducting right now, the poll
that we saw from in just the immediate aftermath. So
Blake has a theory with this yugav poll that had
Charlie not been assassinated, that number actually would have been
quite a bit higher. That people were probably you know,
(08:41):
maybe moderating themselves a little bit, and so that it
actually would you would have seen a higher number there.
Uh So this this whole agree with that, Yeah, I
agree with that. This whole thing is insane that you
can't disagree. And I just really wonder, you know, what
are the threats that they think are going to happen?
You know, what what voices are reading this on discord chats,
what voices are spreading this on Twitch? What voices are
(09:04):
spreading this anywhere that it's like, okay, that that that
that the some conservative is gonna bust down your door
and like drag you out because you're brown or something.
I guess that's like the message, right, that they need
to do this because of ICE or because of DHS,
or because Trump's a totalitarian or whatever.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
And and I we asked about social media use as well,
and I, you know, I don't even know what to
call these demographics, but these, you know, they're almost hysterical, right,
these hysterical demographics, their use of things like redded and
definitely discord and blue sky.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Of course they're on Blue Sky a lot.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I'm not calling for shutting anything down here, guys, you know,
just to be clear, but they're in their own echo chambers,
so they're not interacting.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
With other people to dispel these myths. Right.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
So if I was told constantly by somebody and we
didn't talk Andrew, that you know, you were this big
threat to me, right, and we never engaged and we
never interacted.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
With each I would never know that's not true.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
And I'm just hearing from the same voices over and
over again telling me that that's the case. So the
more we retreat to our own corners, to our true
socials and our blue skies, and whatever it may be,
the worse this is going to get.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It's the echo chambers. It's the echo chambers. Yeah, Rich,
You're totally right.
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We've got that clip ready of Erica on Outnumbered and
it is amazing.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
With Erica Kirk sharing her journey with America and the world.
We are grateful at Fox to have her here to
shine a light on healing as we all miss and
more in the loss of her beloved Charlie Kirk. Not
all of her journey has been without well, hate, conspiracies,
and oddly speculation about where her husband is buried. Now,
(11:57):
for the first time, Erica, Who's with me now, addresses
all of it from the perspective of a grieving widow,
a mom, and a battle tested American. Good to see
you again today, talk to me about this part of
the conspiracies that are out there. This disturbing part that
(12:18):
people are trying to guess where Charlie is.
Speaker 8 (12:21):
Can I have one thing? Can I have one thing?
Can my children have one thing? Everything was public. We
will be building the most beautiful memorial for my husband
at Turning Point, USA, and it will.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Be for the world to see, and it will.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
Be spectacular and it will have a basically museum style
for our Charlie from my Charlie.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
But can I have one thing?
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Can my babies have one thing where we hold it sacred,
where my husband is laid to rest, where I don't
have to be worried about some secular revolutionary coming.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
And destroying my husband's grave.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Well, my daughter is sitting there praying one thing that
this is my husband.
Speaker 9 (13:08):
Yes he was Charlie Kirk to the world.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
And I know so many people love my husband, and
I am grateful for that.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
But this is my husband.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
And I want to be able to have one thing
left that is sacred to our family, to my in laws,
to my babies, and to my parents.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
One thing.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
What are they taking from you right now?
Speaker 9 (13:29):
Nothing? But I will tell you what they are doing.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
It reminds me so much of chapter six in the
Book of Nehemiah. He is building a wall, and the
townspeople are at the base of that hill, saying Nehemiah,
calling him all these names, saying all these things, come
on down. Every single time he had the same message
four times in a row. I cannot come down. I
(13:54):
am busy building. That is how I feel. I do
not have time to address the noise. My silence does
not mean that I am complacent. My silence does not
mean that somehow turning point USA and all of the
handpicked staff that loved my husband and my husband loved
them is somehow.
Speaker 9 (14:12):
In on it.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
We are busy building. And you know what I thought.
I thought these people are human. We're all grieving in
our own way, and they are trying to find the
answer to something that happened that was so evil.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
They are trying so hard, and I get that we're
doing the same.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Anytime we hear a lead, or anytime we hear anything,
we send it to the authorities. Please dig into this.
No rock will be unturned. I want justice from my husband,
for myself, for my family.
Speaker 9 (14:41):
More than anyone else out there.
Speaker 8 (14:43):
So for me, you want to keep telling me to
come down, while we're building. I don't have time for that.
But here's my breaking point on that. Come after me,
call me names, I don't care, call me what you want,
go down that.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
Rabbit hole, whatever.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
But when you go after my family, my turning point,
USA family, my Charlie kirkshow family. When you go after
the people that I love, and you're making hundreds and
thousands of dollars every single episode going after the people
that I love because somehow they're in on this.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
No, you know, I have to say it. I've never
seen you like that.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
No, I'm very This is righteous anger because this is
not okay.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
It's not healthy. This is a mind virus.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Yes, I believe in our judicial jewdicial system.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
I do.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
We have a hell of a team working on this.
Excuse my French, but this is not okay.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
So you want to put these people back in the
box where they've been creeping from.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
I don't care what box you're in, but just know
that your words are very powerful, and we are human.
My team are not machines and they're not robots. They
are human. We have more death threats on our team
and our side than I have ever seen. I have
kidnapping threats. I have you name it, we have it,
and my poor team is exhausted.
Speaker 9 (16:11):
And every time they bring this.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Back up, what are we supposed to do relive that
trauma all over again. They watched my husband get murdered.
I have no idea how I would have reacted if
I was there that day, and think the good Lord
that I did not have to see that happen. But
my team, they are rocked the core. So why every
single day do they have to be dragged through the mud, analyzed,
(16:35):
hyper analyzed?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
You know, the conspiracies that are out there are all
of the like, do you think that there is more
of it now? Because you do shine your light? I mean,
did people just expect you would just go away?
Speaker 9 (16:50):
I don't know what they expected. I don't know what
they expected.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
They pick on you because of your accessories. I mean
I've seen some of this.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Oh yeah, no, at this point, it's what the conspiree
collection get it before Christmas?
Speaker 9 (17:03):
Like, seriously, you will.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
If you want to find and pick me apart, go
right ahead.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
I do not care.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
I don't This was happening before Charlie was murdered. Both
of us have been through the ringer of people will
call you whatever they want to call you.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Quite the clip. I hope you guys enjoyed it. I'm
very proud of Erica. Well said so much grace, so
much courage, so much strength, connection, open dialogue. These are
the things that build communities. Charlie Kirk and TikTok share
in that knowledge. That's why TikTok has built a space
where that kind of listening actually happens. People don't just post,
(17:38):
they respond. They build on each other's ideas. You'll see
a teacher simplifying a tough lesson so it finally clicks,
or gardener sharing a trick that saved their crop. But
what matters most isn't the video, it's what comes next.
Someone asking a question, someone else answering with a story
of their own, and suddenly people who've never met become
a community built on care curiosity. When people listen and understand,
(18:02):
a shift happens. Walls come down, ideas travel further, and connection,
real connection takes their place. That's what listening does. It
reminds us that we're not as different as we may think,
and that's what makes TikTok so powerful. It's a place
where every post can turn into a conversation, and every
conversation can make a difference.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Portions of our program are sponsored in part by TikTok.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I want to bring on our next two guests here.
We've got Gabby Stout, who's a high school student, as
well as Tyson Langhoffer, who's a senior senior counselor with
Alliance Defending Freedom. The good people over at Alliance Defending
Free Freedom. And this is an incredible story, because well
(18:47):
I want I'm going to have them tell the story. Actually,
so Gabby and Tyson, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Speaker 10 (18:52):
I thank you me.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, honored to have you both. Gabby, why don't we
start with you? Just tell us what you tried to
do to Charlie and then tell us what happened next.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yes. So I painted the Spirit Rock at my high school,
which is a large rock that you can paint to
express your opinions and beliefs. And I painted the rock
to honor and memorialize Charlie Kirk's life as well as
to honor God. On the rock, I painted a heart,
an American flag Freedom seventeen seventy six and Live Like
(19:24):
Kirk John eleven twenty five. I painted these things because
Charlie Kirk loved our country and he wanted our generation
to also be proud of our country. I painted Live
like Kirk John eleven twenty five because I wanted to
give people hope that life doesn't end after death and
that Charlie Kirk is living eternally in heaven, which is
why I wrote John eleven twenty five, which says, I
(19:47):
am the resurrection in the life. Whoever believes in me,
though he die, yet shall live. Only hours after painting
my rock was covered up by the school and I
was accused by this school as committing a crime and
that I vandalized the rock even though I had permission
from the school.
Speaker 11 (20:07):
Wow, the education system strikes again.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, where where can you tell me where your school
is located?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Yes, my school is located in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Unbelievable. So, Tyson Langhoffer, your senior counsel with the Liance
Defending Freedom, How did you guys hear about this incident
and why did you choose to get involved?
Speaker 10 (20:28):
Well, because you know, high school students should be encouraged
to share their beliefs and opinions on really important topics.
But they shouldn't be censored by government officials who disagree
with their opinions. And the school here has created an
opportunity on their spirit rock for students to share their beliefs.
Yet they didn't like what Gaby had to say, and
(20:49):
so because of that, they not only censored her by
painting over the rock, but they then sent out an
email to the entire school community accusing her of vandalism
and saying that they have started a criminal investigation. The
next day at school, they called her into the principal's
office and they demanded that she write out a statement
without you know, reading her rights or telling her she's
under criminal investigation, telling her that she has the right
(21:11):
to an attorney, or telling her she has a right
to remain silent. That's that's a problem, right because the
school officials have created this forum. Yet they're saying, because
you share this opinion, we're not going to let you
participate in that forum. That's a violation of the First Amendment.
It should never happen in America, and we want to
hold these school officials officials accountable for doing that.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I just don't understand how this becomes a criminal investigation.
Has that been ceased. Is that if they stopped that,
because that's patently insane.
Speaker 10 (21:37):
So after they interviewed Gabby and verified yes that she
had did have permission, eventually they silently closed the investigation
and said, well, she didn't do anything wrong. Yet the
problem is this had gone out to the entire Charlotte community.
It was on the news that she had been accused
of vandalism and that they were having a criminal investigation,
(21:59):
and instead of hearing her name, you know, they just
silently closed it and acted as if nothing happened. But
it's not just. It's not nothing when the government actually
puts their foot on the scale and silence is a
high school student who simply wants to express her opinion
and treats her like a criminal simply for expressing her views.
That should never happen in America at a public.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Source, of course. So Gabby, what did it feel like
when you just expressed your admiration for Charlie? You took
part in seems like a civic ritual at the school.
You expressed your pride. It was a traumatizing event, I
know for high schoolers all across the country, and then
(22:40):
you get treated like a criminal. Tell us personally, like,
what did that feel like? What was that experience like
for you and your family?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I was extremely intimidated. I don't get in trouble often
at school, and so I was very scared that I
could be getting in trouble for sharing my views in
my beliefs. And this has never happened to any other
student for such causes, and so my family and I
was very scared to go to school the next day,
(23:08):
and my parents were scared to send me as well,
as I had no idea if I could go to
jail or what would be waiting for me as I
got to school.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I mean, I just find this so unbelievable. You're obviously
a very bright student, You're obviously well intentioned. You are
the exact kind of student that we should be hoping
is the product of our school system. And yet you
are getting targeted and called out and singled out for
doing something beautiful to honor Charlie. I just have to wonder, like,
(23:40):
and maybe I'll throw this to you, Tyson, because I
don't want to get Gabby in any more hot water here.
I have to wonder, are there examples on this spirit
rock that you know, maybe celebrated LGBDQ. Are there examples
of you know, things that maybe conservatives wouldn't find so
appealing and were there any consequences for those those demonstrations.
Speaker 10 (24:01):
So several years ago, during the BLM movement, there were
there were BLM uh. You know, there were paintings of
be you know, expressing uh support for BLM, and in fact,
some other students you know, ended up painting other messages
on that, and the school officials you know, stepped in
and actually you know, uh supported the supporters of BLM
(24:24):
and encouraged them to go back and repaint that over.
So obviously they allow political messages, uh, and they allow
they allow messages that you know, are on important topics
of the day. And and and they actually again so
you know, are are weighing in putting their foot on
the scale for certain views and trying to stamp out
other views. And that's the exact opposite message that we
(24:46):
want our government officials sending to the next generation. We
want them to understand that the government allows all viewpoints,
that they can't censor certain viewpoints.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (24:57):
But you know, in fact, after Gabby did this, they
changed the policy. They now have a policy says no
religious or political messages, right, And we know who gets
to determine what's religious and what's political. It's these same
school officials who've already shown that they have a bias
against people like Gabby who just want to share their
(25:17):
uh support for Charlie Kirk and their their support for
Christian values.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I find that really appalling actually, that their their reaction
to this would say it would would be to say
no religious or political uh, you know, spirit rock demonstrations.
I find that appalling because, especially in Charlotte, North Carolina,
I'm going to wager a guest here that that would
say that most people are Christians. Most people worship Jesus
(25:42):
Christ as their Lord and savior in this part of
the country, and that is a very key part of
their their personality, of their of what makes them have
spirit in the first place. I find that actually a
really appalling thing. And to your point, who's going to
determine what's acceptable on that rock? What are the rules? This?
This is This is why say answership is a terrible
thing in the first place. But I don't want to
(26:04):
get bogged down on the negative here. I'm so glad
Alliance defending freedom has stepped in. So thank you, Tyson,
and thank you to ADF for being a voice of
common sense and having Gabby's back. We have your back, Gabby.
I'm told Gabby that you are considering starting a turning
point chapter in the future. I don't want to put
words in your mouth, but if you do, we will
one hundred percent have your back on that as well. Gabby.
(26:27):
The flora is yours here. We got about three minutes
left in the segment. Tell us what it was about
Charlie that so moved you. Tell us what he meant
to you, what he meant to you and your friends.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
I enjoyed watching Charlie Kirk. I've watched him for many
years and I admired him as he went across campuses
speaking to students, even people he didn't agree with, just
having conversations with them. And I was absolutely distraught when
he died, as I have never seen someone assassinated on
social media because of their faith, and he was trying
(26:59):
to teach people truth and which is the Bible, and
he wanted people to be able to stand up and
defend their faith.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, really well, said Tyson. Final question to you, what
do you hope comes out of this. What does what
does victory look like here in this Charlotte School.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
Well, what we want them to change their policy. We
want them to have a policy which allows all viewpoints,
and we also want to hold them accountable for silencing
Gabby because of her viewpoint. They need to understand government
officials need to understand there are consequences for violating our
most deeply cherished rights, such as the freedom of speech
(27:38):
and free exercise of our religious beliefs. And then I
hope we inspire. I hope Gabby's courage inspire students across
the country to wade in, to engage in discussions on
important topics, and to do it in a way that
Charlie did with grace and winsomeness, and doing it in
a way that encourages people to engage with people across
(27:58):
the aisle.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, well said, I'm just I'm so I'm so proud
of you guys, honestly for standing up for what you
know is clearly right. Gabby, you have been egregiously wronged, Charlie.
The legacy of Charlie Kirk has been egregiously maligned and
unnecessarily so what you wrote was beautiful and thank you
(28:20):
for doing that. And I just want to say that,
you know, thank you to your parents who raised you,
to the community that brought you up and gave instilled
those values in you. And God bless what you wrote
Freedom seventeen seventy six, Live like Kirk John eleven twenty five.
That is exactly what a spirit rock is, not, a
mostly peaceful rock. Yeah, that you did everything right, Gabby,
(28:41):
and we bless you for that, We say, God bless you.
Please let us know. I know our team obviously we
got in touch for this interview, but if you want
to start a turning point chapter, we will work extraordinarily
hard to help you make that a phenomenal chapter. So
let us know if you choose to do that. God
bless you, guys, Tyson, thank you, and God bless the
ADF as well for stepping in.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Thank you so much.
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The team really love that segment, by the way, with
Gabby and Tyson, I just blake there's the world feels
so freakin upside down. Sometimes it's really, firsh I really.
Speaker 11 (30:23):
We said this yesterday. We love seeing the chapter heads.
We love seeing the rank and file turning point enthusiasts
because they're the people Charlie cared so much about. They
have that enthusiasm, they have that fourth rightness. They they
they haven't had the chance to frankly be jaded by
you know, we know there's so many difficulties in troubles.
It's never it's never easy. But they're they're always earnest,
(30:45):
they're always happy to go. They yeah, email early with
everything they do.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Email us freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. Do you
like when we bring these students on? Do you want
to see more of it? You want to hear more
stories from these schools, because I think it's important and
it's one of the ways that that just I know,
how to honor Charlie is to show you the faces
and hear the stories directly of the students that are
on the front lines doing it. And Charlie was always
so good about this. He was always so good about
(31:10):
giving those students all the credit and saying they are
the front lines for freedom in this country, and they're
the tip of the spear and they're doing the hard
things and we need to have their back because they're
standing up against backward school districts like that one in Charlotte.
Shame on that school district. Blake, you got to clip
lined up for us.
Speaker 11 (31:25):
Yeah, I just I think we should hit more of
the Trump rally. I think it's it's good. It's Trump
on brand, and we really want to highlight things where.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yes, you said this in the break actually, and I
was like, why'd you say it? You got to say
it to the audience.
Speaker 11 (31:35):
Yeah, So let's let's see up this bit here with
let's do Trump when he's talking about our favorite representative,
il Han Omar.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Let's Ilhan the ingrate.
Speaker 11 (31:44):
Let's play too to too.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Do we have any individuals from Somalia in the girl
please raise your hand.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's for Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
You know, that's called the Great Big Minnesota Scam with
one of the dumbest governors ever in history. This elin Omar,
whatever the hell her there is.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
With the little turban I love her.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
She comes in this is nothing, but she's always complained.
I love it. She comes to our country and she's always.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
Complaining about the constitution allows me to do this the.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Concert, we would have get her to hell out.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
She married her brother in order to get in right,
she married her brother.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
Now I should clarify what it specifically was is the
power Line blog. Those guys we had on last week,
they were the original guys who broke it. What it
seems she did is she was already married to her
real husband, only religiously, and then she legally married her brother.
And it seems this was a scheme to just get
more benefits from the University of North Dakota while she
(32:49):
was going there, Like.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You could get better housing if you were married with Dakotas.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It was just it was pure.
Speaker 11 (32:53):
Oh, it's another way to get more crap from the
taxpayers for free, and then as soon as that was
no longer useful, throw it aside. Her brother, I think
might live in the UK.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Now.
Speaker 11 (33:03):
I would really love the Trump administration. It would be
a dream if they could denaturalize and deport her over this.
But even if that's not possible, it should just be public.
We should know what the truth there.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Here's here's my message to ilhan Omar. Keep doing exactly
what you're doing. You are a walking, talking disgrace to Somalia.
You are a walking talking billboard that will only further
our drive and our desire to stop the runaway, unchecked,
unfettered migration into this country. So keep being you, ilhan Omar,
(33:36):
I Hope.
Speaker 11 (33:36):
And you two Jazmine, We're pulling for you in this nomination. No,
we would never want to get rid of Jo. Make
more videos of you standing, Jasmine. Go all out, be
the most Jasmine Crocket you can crock it. I want
you to be the most. We want Jazz, Max Jazz.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Jazz. You need to go Max. You and ilhan Omar
need to do a tour. I want you to sell
the tickets. I want you to go to every deep
blue district you can find, and I want you to
sell those tickets. Go to Berkeley, go straight up to the.
Speaker 11 (34:12):
Go to the Big go to every swing state.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Go to the swing state. Swing state tour. Jasmine Crockett
and ilhan Omar, you can bring Rashida to leave if
you want. And you just tell everybody we need more
of you, that we need to open our borders and
more green cards and more visas for all of you
because you are such a disgrace to your countries. And
we will. And I tell you what everywhere they go, Blake,
(34:37):
we are going to be flocking to the polls to
vote for no more unfettered mass migration. The globalists are
gonna lose every time you open your mouth. So please
just be extra special. This be extra special this Christmas.
Speaker 11 (34:52):
We have forty seconds left. This was I think this
is a good day to highlight. They're a good things.
There are good people on the base who are honoring
Charlie getting in like that student. And there are real
winds we're dismantling desperate impact. We have literally secured the border.
We've secured it so hard we can't even report on
it anymore because nothing is happening there anymore.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
And by the way, I just want to say this
holiday season, my prayers are with the brave men and
women DHS and ICE that are leading the mass deportations
in places like Minneapolis. God bless them.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
For more on many of these stories and news you
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