January 7, 2026 • 50 mins
After listening in on an eventful White House press briefing on Venezuela and more, the show talks to Senator Rick Scott about President Trump's desire to acquire Greenland and the endless flow of fraudulent money going to immigrants in Minnesota. As if on cue, they react to breaking news of a ICE-involved shooting in Minneapolis, where far-left agitators have relentlessly harassed federal agents with the full support of local lawmakers.
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is
January seventh. Lots going on. We are going to throw
right here at the top to the press conference that
Caroline Levitt is leading and the White House Press briefing room.
It's the first one since the deposition of Maduro in Venezuela,
so we're actually getting a lot of information. Let's go
ahead and throw back to Caroline Levit.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Maximum leverage over the interim authorities in Venezuela right now,
and the President has made it very clear that this
is a country within the United States, the Western hemisphere,
close by the United States, that is no longer going
to be sending illegal drugs to the United States of America.
It's no longer going to be sending and trafficking illegal
people in criminal cartels to kill American.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Citizens as they have in the past. And the President is.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Fully deploying his piece through strength Foreign policy agenda.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
So we're continuing to be in close.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Coordination with the interim authorities and their decisions are going
to continue.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
To be dictated by the United States of America.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Just one follow up when you talk about that leverage, there,
has the Venezuelan government fully committed to turning over its
oil to.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
The United States and definitely and what happens if they
do not.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, as you saw the President announced last night, this
was a deal. This was a deal made by the
President and his team with the Venezuelan interim authorities. This
will benefit both the American people and the Venezuelan people.
And Secretary Right and the Department of Energy are working
with the interim authorities and also with the private oil
industry to execute on this historic energy deal that's not
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only good for the United States, but it's also going
to revive the prosperity, the safety, the security.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Of both the United States and Venezuela as well ed.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Following up on the oil part of this, thirty to
fifty million barrels of oil, how exactly is actually into
worker You're getting it out of Venezuela into the United States.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yes, then that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So as you know ed, as the President announced last night,
this was the sanctioned oil that was basically just sitting
in barrels, sitting on ships because of the effective quarantine
of the United States of America and these the interim
authorities have agreed to release dot oil to the United States,
so it will be arriving here at home very soon.
The United States government has already begun marketing Venezuelan crude
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oil and the globate marketplace for the benefit of the
United States. Engage the world's leading commodity marketers key banks
to execute and provide financial support for these crude oil
and crude product sales. All proceeds from the sale of
Venezuelan crude oil and products will first settle in US
control accounts at globally recognized banks to guarantee the legitimacy
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and integrity of the ultimate distribution of proceeds, and those
funds will be dispersed for the benefit of the American
people and the Venezuelan people at the discretion of the
United States government.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
Sounds like it requires a lot of private sector engagement
and agreement, and the oil industry and the banking industry
I have that.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yet, there's a lot of private sector engagement that's happening
right now, as you know, Secretary right our Energy secretary
who's heading up this big project, is in Florida today
meeting with some of these oil executives, and as we
confirmed earlier, they will also be at the White House
later this week. So they are absolutely eager to invest
their eager about these opportunities and Secretary right is a
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very well knowledgeable guy when it comes to oil and energy,
and he's the perfect man for the job.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Another quarter of the world. The real quick going to
go go ahead.
Speaker 8 (04:27):
So just to follow up on the oil thirty to
fifty million barrels is an initial trunk, if you will,
and then what happened to after that.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
For.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I won't get ahead of the plans that the President
and his team are currently speaking with the Interim Authority
is about.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
But rest assured there is a long term plan here.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Secretary Rubio and the entire team are working diligently on
and this is just sort of the first action that
you all are seeing ed.
Speaker 9 (04:52):
Thanks goh So.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
In order to get these oil companies to invest billions
in Venezuela, how will the US reassure that their workers
will be safe in Venezuela to there be troops.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
You will at this point in time, as you know,
there are no troops on the ground in Venezuela.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
The President, of course, reserves the.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Right to use the United States military if necessary, it's
not something he wants to do. Diplomacy is always the
first option, as you saw he tried that with Nicholas Maduro,
but unfortunately he was an illegitimate dictator and an unserious person,
and so President Trump authorized this law enforcement operation. And
now Nicholas Maduro is sitting in a prison cell in
New York. So certainly the President is going to do
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what's in the best interests of the American people, and
that includes workers from our energy and oil industry meeting tomorrow.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
With that meeting tomorrow, what is the message the president
is going to give to the oil executives and what
does he want to hear?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Well, the meeting is on Friday, and it's just a
meeting to discuss, obviously the immense opportunity that is before
these oil companies right now.
Speaker 10 (05:48):
Stephen Caroline, and congratulations again, thank you to The New
Yorker had a story yesterday on the Vice president and
it questioned his quote notable absence on Venezuela.
Speaker 9 (06:00):
The sub headline asked, was the Vice president's exclusion from
the operation in Venezuela and expression of this anti anti
interventionist ideology or political calculation. Would you be able to
discuss the Vice president's role in Venezuela policy.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I did see that report in the New Yorker and
quite frankly, I laughed out loud because it's very clear
it's a fake report that's trying to so distrust in
division amongst the president and his team. Let me just
be very clear, if the vice president has been involved
in all policy, he is the right hand man of
the president on all policy matters, including Venezuela policy. He
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was of course read in and deeply involved in this
operation from the very beginning, and he was present on
the night of the operation via secure communication at a
different location as to not damage the operational secrecy of
this mission that was so incredibly important to ensure that
this mission could be carried out successfully without endangering our troops.
Speaker 11 (06:58):
Sure, the US seized tanker recently, Russia specifically asked the
United States not to seize that tanker. Does this action
risk a larger conflict with Russia?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I believe you're referring to the below one tanker that
was seized this morning. The Department of Justice and the
Department of Homeland Security and coordination with the Department of
War did announce that seizure this morning for violations of
US sanctions. I've spoken about the enforcement of our sanctions
policy at the podium prior to the new year. In
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this administration is going to fully enforce the sanctioned policy.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Of the United States.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
The vessel this morning was seized in the North Atlantic
pursuant to a warrant issued by a US federal court
after being tracked, and this was a Venezuelan shadow fleet
vessel that has transported sanctioned oil in the United States
of America.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Under this president is not going to tolerate that.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I would also just add the vessel head a judicial
seizure order and the crew mean the crew is now
subject to prosecution for any applicable violation of federal law
and they will be brought to the United States for
such prosecution if necessary.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Kelly, Caroline, happy to you, to you, Thank you too
much to talk to you.
Speaker 12 (08:12):
A couple of things real quickly. The first question about
the Venezuelan people. As you know, there's some eight million
of Venezuelans here, some of them celebrating in the streets.
There are Venezuelans on the ground who are concerned about
their safety. What does the Trump administration, what is it
doing to actually help people in Venezuela understand that they
will be secure throughout this transition.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I think the fact that this president actually followed through
on the long held promise of the United States of America,
the bipartisan promise to take down the illegitimate Maduro regime,
should give assurance to the Venezuelan people and also Venezuelan
Americans who fled this communist regime for a better life
here at home, that this is a president who is
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serious about taking down illegitimate regimes and who is also
serious about securing the security of the United States of America,
including the Venezuelan American people. And I would just add
that this is something that not just Republicans and President
Trump have talked about for a very long time, but
it is also something that Democrats have advocated for.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
In twenty twenty, Chuck Schumer said that.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
At the time President Trump had not brought an end
to the Maduro regime. The Maduro regime is more powerful
today and more in trench today than it was when
the president began. Now you hear Chuck Schumer out there
saying this is reckless. The American people and the Venezuelan
people should be in fear. But this is something that
Chuck Schumer has long advocated for Senator Chris van Holland.
Same thing had said that the United States is going
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to use its leverage and influence to push for negotiations
to transition to the truly elected leader. This was under
President Biden. We know Maduro and his cronies don't want
to go quietly into the night. The US needs to
work to ratchet up the pressure now. Senator Holland says
it's an illegal act of war to get rid of
of Nicholas Maduro. So the hypocrisy is really astounding here,
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and thank you for giving me an opportunity to point
it out with Kaylea, I.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Mean sorry, go ahead, Yes, the reports that the administration
is demanding that Venezuela cut ties with China Russia, I
ran in Cuba.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Can you confirm I'm sorry it reports that the administration
has essentially demanded that Venezuela cut.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Ties with China Russia. I ran in Cuba. Can you
confirm that?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Well, those alleged demands were made in a classified briefing
by Secretary Rubio, and I know that there's a lot
of leaks coming out of these classified briefings, so I'm
not going to confirm or deny or get into what
the Secretary has set in classified settings to members of Congress.
But I think that the administration has made it quite
clear to the interim authorities in Venezuela that this is
the Western Hemisphere and American dominance is going to continue
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under this president.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Aska.
Speaker 13 (10:50):
There have also been reports that the US could potentially
by Greenland is as one potential option on the table.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
What would such an offer look like?
Speaker 13 (10:59):
Is there anything monetarily you could provide a details there.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Well, that's something that's currently being actively discussed by the
President and his national security team. And I would point
out that the acquisition of Greenland by the United States
is not a new idea. This is something that presidents
dating back to the eighteen hundreds have said is advantageous
for America's national security. The President has been very open
and clear with all of you and with the world
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that he've used it in the best interests of the
United States to deter Russian and Chinese aggression in the
Arctic region. And so that's why his team is currently
talking about what a potential purchase would look like.
Speaker 14 (11:37):
Chucky here, I.
Speaker 13 (11:38):
Thought about Greenland, why not rule out taking it by
military force?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I know that past presidents and past leaders have often
ruled things out. They've often been very open about ruling
things in and basically broadcasting their foreign policy strategy to
the rest of the world, not just to our allies,
but most egregious to our adversaries. That's not something this
president does. All options are always on the table for
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President Trump as he examines what's in the best interests
of the United States.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
But I will just.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Say that the president's first option always has been diplomacy. Again,
look at Venezuela. He tried ardently to strike a good
deal with Nicholas Maduro, and he told him, I will
use the United States military and you will not like
it if you don't take such a deal.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And look at what happened with respect to Iran.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
The President said the same thing, right, he try to
have serious interest and then a deal with the Iranian
regime with respect to their nuclear capabilities. They were not interested,
and so Operation Midnight Hammer happened, which was another remarkable
military success under the leadership of this commander in chief.
So the president keeps his options open, but diplomacy is
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always the first.
Speaker 15 (12:51):
Quickly, just one additional call uponment does the President recognize
Denmark's ownership as part of the Kingdom because there been
some Republican senators questioning, you know, the claim that Denmark
has to Greenland. Is the President in that camp with them,
you know, questioning.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
The legality of I have not heard him question it personally,
but you're welcome to ask him yourself next time you
have the chance.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Thank andans lifted for Venezuela.
Speaker 15 (13:18):
We got to lift some sanctions to let the oil
come in.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Can you talk about that just very brief.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, So the US is selectively rolling back sanctions to
enable the transport and the sale of Venezuelan crude and
oil products to the global markets.
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Speaker 5 (14:36):
Caroly Annie, thank you.
Speaker 16 (14:38):
There are some reports from Venezuela that the country's leaders
are cracking down on the population, specifically suppressing public expression
of support from Maduro's ouster.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
Is that kind of behavior consistent with what the president
wants to see how the president wants to see the
leaders to take on the population.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
It would not be consistent.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
And I'll let the present and it's national security team
speak further on that. I know they are well aware
and tracking.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Kelly.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Two questions, One on the c's vestments, the villa of
the Sofia. Can you tell us where they're headed, what
happens to any existing cargo, and you reference personnel but
potentially facing the prosecution.
Speaker 17 (15:15):
That's one thing I'd like.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Yes, And on the Bela yes, okay.
Speaker 18 (15:19):
And on Anny's question, if I can also ask, does
the administration believe that the interim regime should release all
political dissidents and prisoners and return to tainted Americans.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
That's not a question that I've personally spoken about the
to the President with so I will let him answer
that question. I don't want to make new policy at
this podium today with respect to Venezuela. With respect to
the two ships that you mentioned, I spoke with you
about the Bella one. There was another vessel this morning,
the Sofia, that, in coordination with the Department of War
the Department of Homeland Security apprehended it. This is a
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stateless sanctioned dark fleet motor tanker and this occurred without incident.
This vessel was operating in international waters and conducting illicit
activities in the Caribbean Sea. The US Coast Guard is
is escorting the SOFIA to the United States for final disposition.
To answer your question, Kelly directly, this was through Operation
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Southern Sphere. The Department of War is unwavering in its
mission to crush illicit activity in the Western Hemisphere, and
as the President has repeatedly stated, We're going to defend
our homeland and restore security and strength across the Americas.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Dasha, Sasha Caurerlin, thank you and having me here. Thanks
to you too.
Speaker 16 (16:32):
The questions one on Venezuela, one on Greenland. You repeatedly
a podium called the current leadership in Venezuela interim leadership.
There are Republicans and Democrats alike that say they want
to see elections in Venezuela. The President has said it's
too soon to do that right now. But is there
a timeline for elections in Venezuela as he committed to
seeing that year for example, you.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Just said, the President has answered that question.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
So I will reiterate what the President has said a
few times now to all of you, which is that
it's too prematurture and too early to dictate a timetable
for elections in Venezuela right now.
Speaker 16 (17:03):
Carolyn Carolina, You've just talked to Jackie about diplomacy first, right,
The Days have repeatedly said they are willing to collaborate
on all of the concerns that the President has, whether
it's more truths, mineral rights, intelligence sharing. Why does the
president feel he needs to own Greenland and not and
put out the threat of military action when this could
be done through diplomacy.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Well, who said diplomacy isn't taking place behind the scenes, Stash.
I mean the President is interested in diplomacy. The National
Security team is as well, and of course he's always
willing to pick up the phone for everybody and hear
out their concerns. But the president is the president of
the United States of America, and he's always going to
be very clear about what he's views as being in
our nation's best interest.
Speaker 19 (17:45):
Reagan, Thanks, Caroline, I have a quessure for you in Venezuela,
and then I'd love to ask you about Minnesota and
Tim Walls.
Speaker 16 (17:51):
Sure.
Speaker 19 (17:52):
On Venezuela, I'm wondering does the administration hope to start
sending more Venezuelan migrants back home or have them self,
or if the situation of the country and groups.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
As far as I'm concerned, the policies of the Trump
administration and the Department of Homeland Security have not changed.
All those illegally present in the country are subject to deportation.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
And I would just like to add how we got here.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
The President was very clear on the campaign to the
American public, and it's one of the many reasons they
resoundingly re elected him back to this office that he
was not only going to crush foreign drug cartels, but
that he was not going to stand by and watch
as the illegitimate Venezuelan regime was sending illegal criminals and
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gang members and rapists and murderers to our country, which
happened to the tune of thousands under the previous administration.
In president and so there could be nothing more America
First than this operation.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
That took place last week.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
And I would just remind all of you in this
room that there were innocent Americans like Jocelyn Nungere who
lost their lives at the hands of dangerous Venezuelan criminals
who were sent here by the Maduro regime. And that
has been the President's north star and guiding principle throughout
his entire policy since January twentieth Minnesota.
Speaker 19 (19:13):
Does the administration believe that Tim Walls potentially dropped out
of the governor's race because he could be under criminal investigation.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I don't know if there's a criminal investigation.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
If there was, I wouldn't be able to comment on
it from up here, to be honest with you, but
I think Tim Walls probably dropped out of the race
because he realizes he no longer has the support of
the people of his own state, which is a remarkable
downfall considering he was the number two on the Democrat
Party's ticket just about a year ago. When it comes
to Minnesota, the fraud that we have seen, the wide
scale of fraud is really remarkable.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
It's egregious.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I would encurcourage every single journalist in this room to
go to Minnesota and to cover it yourselves. As for
the Trump administration, we have officials who have been on
the ground almost every day. Secretary Nome was there yesterday.
Secretary Bessant will be traveling there later this week to
talk about the fraud and to do a roundtable on
this very topic.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
And I would just like to leave you with an update.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
To date, the Department of Justice has charged ninety eight
total defendants in several Medicaid fraud and related case programs.
Sixty four were convicted and eighty five of the ninety
eight charged were of Somali descent. The DOJ has also
issued over seventeen thousand, seventeen hundred subpoenas, executed over one
hundred and thirty search warrants, and they have now added
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more attorneys to their office there to absorb the case flow.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
DHS is on the.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Ground going door to door conducting large scale criminal and
HSI investigations. They have also sent approximately two thousand agents
to Minneapolis to assist with law enforcement and immigration enforcement.
As I said, Secretary Nome was on the ground yesterday.
The Department of Health and Human Services has also begun
requiring a justification and photo evidence for all childcare related
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payments nationwide, and they required Minnesota to conduct a full
audit of all childcare centers. They also froze one hundred
and eighty five million dollars in funding to Minnesota, and
doctor Oz who was just here, also notified Governor Walls
they're going to begin auditing Medicaid recipients and deferring payments
on claims based on waste fraud and abuse. The Department
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of Labor is also conducting a targeted review of Minnesota's
unemployment program, Department of Agriculture requiring Minnesota to conduct recertification
for SNAP recipients, and HUD has launched investigations into the
public housing SBA has also suspended nearly seven thousand borrowers
amid suspected fraudulent activity. So, with all of that rest assured,
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this is an all hands on deck effort from the
entire administration to get to the bottom of this and
ensure that they're ripping off of taxpayers in the state
of Minnesota. And it won't just be Minnesota, It'll be
any state across this country where fraud has taken place
and we are protecting law abiding tax pays American citizens.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Phil La you, Caroline.
Speaker 20 (22:03):
Just to follow up on Greenland, there are treaties already
on the books that give the United States access to
the island. They can construct and maintain military bases there,
we can house personnel on the island, the USS control
of landings, takeoffs.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Anchorages, etc.
Speaker 20 (22:20):
So I'm curious if you could just spell out for
the American public what specifically would the US gain by
taking control of Greenland that the US doesn't already.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Have access to right now, more control over the Arctic region,
and ensuring that China and Russia, in our adversaries, cannot
continue their aggression in this very important and strategic region.
And there would be many other benefits as well, that
again the President and his national security team are currently
talking about.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Jeff, I'll give you another.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
One abroad first, and that question on warn Rossey.
Speaker 21 (22:57):
Are you concerned about increasing tensions with Russia because of
the tanker seizures and how does the US action in
Venezuela impact the ongoing relationship with China and the President's
relationship with President she.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I think the President has very open, honest and good
relationships with both President Putin and Russia, and also President
she of China. He has spoken with them numerous times,
as you know, since coming to office about a year ago,
and I believe that those personal relationships.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Are going to continue.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But as for the President and the United States, he's
going to enforce our policy that's best for the United
States of America, and with respect to these ships seizers,
that means enforcing the embargo against all dark fleet vessels
that are illegally transporting oil and only legitimate commerce. To
answer your question much earlier, Rachel, determined by the United
States is going to be permitted, and that's the policy
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of this administration, and he's not afraid to implement.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Last one.
Speaker 14 (23:59):
I remember the.
Speaker 21 (24:00):
Cleric here the alien of his term if he was
committed to Article five and NATO, and he said yes.
Has his stance on NATO or his commitment to NATO changed?
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Did you see his statement earlier today? He said, we
will always be there for NATO, even if they are
not there for us. And I think that answers your
question directly.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Yes.
Speaker 10 (24:18):
Just to follow up on what I'm saying, their lobly
blessing to commit that if any Native members are attacked in.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
The United States with future Again, the President addressed this
directly himself this morning after seeing the coverage from all
of you in this room on television, and he made
it very clear, We're always going to be there for
NATO even if they have not done right.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
By the United States of America, and they have not.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
They have finally increased their defense spending at the.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Request of this president. But it was only because of
this president that they did that. To take a couple four. Michael,
go ahead, New York.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Congratulations, thanks you.
Speaker 22 (24:54):
Questions one on healthcare, one on Mexico. On healthcare, the
President says he wants Republicans to be flexible on the
High Amendment in order to ask healthcare legislation. What is
the White House's message to pro life voters who say
federal funding for abortion goes against their values.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Well, the President did not change the administration's policy. It
was President Trump who signed an executive order protecting the
High Amendment. It's the Trump administration that has taken multiple
actions on various fronts to ensure that taxpayer dollars are
not funding the.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Practice of abortion.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
What the President was saying yesterday was Republicans and frankly
Democrats too, need to show a little bit more flexibility
so we can actually get something done with respect to
the issue of healthcare.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Republicans have amazing ideas.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
The President himself, as we spoke about earlier, has launched
this Most Favored Nation Drug Pricing initiative, has cut good
deals with big pharma. He wants to see Republicans and
Democrats too, if they're willing codify those executive orders into
law so that these good deals can remain and these
prices can continue to be lowered long after this president
and this deal maker in chief is gone. President's talked
(26:00):
a lot about health savings accounts and giving more money
back to the healthcare consumer rather than to these giant
insurance companies, and he's been very outspoken and tough on
them too, and I think you'll see more and hear
more from him directly on that issue. So he wants
to see Congress get something done with respect to healthcare.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
And that was the point that he was driving home yesterday.
Speaker 22 (26:20):
So Goline, President Trump says, the drug cartels are running Mexico.
Speaker 14 (26:24):
What action does.
Speaker 22 (26:25):
He need to see Mexico's President, Claudia scheinbamb take to
prove that she's in control of that country, in control
of those hotels, And does the White House believe she's
able to do that without US intervention?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Look, I think the President was speaking very candidly and
frankly about the reality on the ground in Mexico.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Hayley jar and happy to the year.
Speaker 13 (26:43):
I want to say too, about this ceased tanker with
bella horse. Before this that Russia had sent a submarine
to the sport. It was there any engagement with that submarine,
and then was the deconfliction align with Russian used ahead
of forty and a half.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Again, this was a Venezuelan shadow flea vessel that has
transported sanctioned oil. The vessel was deemed stateless after flying
a false flag and it had a judicial seizure order
and that's why the crew will be subject to prosecution.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Mary Columbia, the President talking weeks, I will be open
for an operation there, sure, the President of Columbia, the
expecting golf.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Course and time too, and I want to be on California.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
That would be a very unwise question for me to
answer to way into what's your next question in California?
Speaker 19 (27:31):
Can you share any more about the broad investigation?
Speaker 5 (27:34):
And the President send them there Westland.
Speaker 19 (27:36):
Who's being investigated and.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Where's it sturning?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Again, this is going to be a all hands on
deck government wide effort. The President has directed all agencies
across the board to look at federal spending programs in
not just Minnesota, but also in the state of California,
to identify fraud and to prosecute to the fullest extent
of the law all.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Those who have committed it. We take one more sure, Thank.
Speaker 23 (28:00):
You, Carolyn. Yesterday was the five year anniversary of January sixth.
Democrats and mainstream media continued to push their big lie
that it was an insurrection and that police officers died
that day. The reality is that four Trump supporters died
on January sixth, and two women were killed by January
sixth police. Everybody knows Ashley Babbitt was shot in cold
blood by Capitol police officer Michael Byrd, But there was
(28:21):
another woman. Her name was Roseanne Boylan from Georgia, and
she was peppable to gas and ultimately bruly beaten with
a stick by January six police officer Lila Morris. The
Biden administration and mainstream media lied and told Americans Roseanne
Boylan died of overdoes on Capital steps. Her family is
now asking for an investigation. Is the administration aware of
the circumstances of her death and will there be an investigation?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Finally, well, for an investigation, I will have to defer
you to either the FBI or the Department of Justice,
and I'm sorry to have to do that, but with
respect to all of the facts that you just laid out,
The White House relished the opportunity yesterday to actually create
a new website to share the fact with the American public,
but also all those.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
In this room.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
We knew the media would be covering January sixth quite
a bit because they think it's something that the American
people are still believing their lies on. They think it's
something that still helps their case against this president. Obviously
not or else he wouldn't have been re elected in
an overwhelming fashion in November of last year. And so
I would encourage everyone to take a look at the website.
It's quite well done, and thank you all very much.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
It's great to be back with you.
Speaker 16 (29:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Massive amount of breaking news there. It was the first
White House press briefing that Caroline has done since the Maduro.
I guess you would call it attack a seizure deposition. Also,
we've got two tankers that have been basically apprehended boarded
by US military. A lot of questions about that. My
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our next guest, Senator Rick Scott, from the great State
of Florida. It's good to have you back. Senator how
have you been.
Speaker 14 (31:01):
I've been great. Happy New Year, Andrew. It's going to
be a great year.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I've never been so ready to turn the calendar over
to the next year. I will tell you twenty twenty
five was a absolute doozy. But there is so much
breaking news here, Senator. You know, there's Greenland. There was
a shooting that I want to actually inform our audience
about involving an ICE officer in Minneapolis. As you know,
we've been surging ICE DHS personnel over two thousand on
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the streets of Minneapolis and Saint Paul, massive, massive reaction
from the federal government. It appears that it was a
ramming and a shooting. This is breaking news, a ramming
and a shooting. So a lot of times the citizen activists,
these volunteers on the left, they will follow around ICE
vehicles trying to alert the public, and sometimes they ram them,
(31:50):
and sometimes they try and get in their way. Sometimes
they play fast and loose with their own vehicle. It
appears initial indications, we're waiting for more information here, that
that's what this was. But Senator, let's start there. There
was a House Oversight Committee hearing on the Somali fraud
and the complicity within the local politicians there covering it up.
(32:12):
Maybe they were getting political kickbacks. What's your take of it.
You have run the state of Florida, You know these processes,
you know how the bureaucracies work.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
What's your reaction.
Speaker 14 (32:21):
Well, I'm not surprised. Number One. When I became governor
of Florida January twenty eleventh, I saw going agency by agency. Now,
my background is I'm a business guy, and in business,
you don't waste your money, right, and you solve your
customer's needs. They don't want to pay you a little
extra money because you wasted money or did stupid things.
So what I watched agency by agency, there would be
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they wouldn't worry about fraud against the agency, They wouldn't
worry about improper payments. They look as free money. The
way is the way. So many people looked at it.
So I went agency by agency and fix it. Then
we got all this free federal money. It's free, by
the way. The attitude that many governors have is if
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the federal government's paying for it up, it's free. Didn't
cost you anything, right, And so I watched it like
after a hurricane. People would say, well, if we just
got to, you know, we can go get all this
free federal money. So I watched unbelievable fraud attempts with
regard to debris pick up after hurricanes. But that's just
the tip of the iceberg. Every government program, and especially
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federal programs, the oversight is pathetic, it's horrible. We have studies,
We know that there's you know, hundreds of billions of
dollars of fraud. We know there's tens of billions of
dollars worth of improper payments and we don't get the
money back right, and then we know, we know people
lie cheating steel, and we we're just sitting there and
(33:50):
people say, well, it's it's free. Why do you worry
so much about this, Well, we should worry about it
because thirty eight and a half thirty dollars worth of debt.
Your interest rates are too high because of that, you're
the inflation is caused by all this wasteful spending. And
it's not fair. It's not fair. The hard working the
kid that's out there or family that's out there busting
their butt every day. And then somebody else doesn't want
(34:12):
to work, so they take advantage of a state government,
a local government, a federal government. It's wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah, I mean it keeps getting worse the deeper this
rabbit hole goes. Senator, it looks like, you know, Keith Ellison,
there was a leaked tape released of him that he
was basically, you know, said he was going to cover
up for these Somalis if they kind of gave them
political kickbacks, and he was gonna they were gonna run
cover for them. There's multiple questions here. I'm going to
(34:39):
play David Marcus from Fox News. He had a great
take on it on to get your reaction to it,
because we had Senator Ron Johnson on the show yesterday.
I know a friend and colleague of yours in the
Senate who said that these were these systems are designed
to fail, They're designed to be looted. They're designed to
have wealth extracted from working class Americans, from the white man,
(35:00):
however you want to look at it, to be given
to marginalized communities. I thought David Marcus made an incredible
point here at two forty five.
Speaker 24 (35:07):
This is not standard Tammany Hall patronage and kickbacks, right,
We've always had that that was meant to keep people
in power, that was not meant to be a massive
redistribution of wealth. What we're seeing here is a massive
redistribution of wealth when these blue states allocate billions of
dollars for marginalized communities and then fail to put in
(35:27):
place any safeguards to stop theft. That's Marxism by fraud.
That's taking money from corporations, from rich people, saying we're
going to send it over here, We're not going to
pay any attention to what's happening to it.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
That line sticks with me. This is Marxism by fraud.
Is this intentional? Is this in a blue state, in
a blue setting?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Is this?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Is this the outgrowth of a really sick ideology that
is based on racial grievances, that's based on systemic oppression,
that's based on cr TEA, all of these ideologies.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Is it intentionally lacking oversight?
Speaker 14 (36:04):
Oh? Absolutely? I mean, think about this, is the most
of the taxes are paid by hard working middle class Americans.
That's who's paying most of the taxes in this country. Right.
It's taking their money and giving it to somebody else.
And then their goal is the politicians that give all
this away, Oh vote vote for them, because they're giving
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you something for free because it's it's free Andrew that
doesn't cost anything, so absolutely. I mean, let me tell
you a quick story. I became governor of Florida. I
ran my whole campaign in twenty ten on jobs. I
go to the agency that doesn't employment. Right after I won,
I said, how's unemployment work? They said, well, you have to,
I said, She said, we're open six days a week
(36:46):
because unemployed freulians don't have enough time to apply during
the week. Really, I said, if you get unemployment, if
they do anything. They said, yeah, apply forf to fly
for five jobs a week. I said, you enforce that? Well, no,
I said, I said, so, I said, if you somebody
was on unemployment and you found them have a job,
would you, you know, accuse them of fraud and get
the money back? Well? No, I said, what's your purpose here?
(37:10):
Is that our purpose is to give as many people
on the program as we can, right because we don't,
you know, because that will feel good? Who cares? It's free?
By the way, they explained to me that at the time,
the federal government was paying the excess money. So it's free.
It's federal money. They don't care, and they think that's
just how they're going to get elected. And you look,
(37:30):
I've been up here seven years. Don't they don't you know,
the people, they don't set up the programs to work.
They intentionally allow it to be allowed, the fraud. And
then we have earmarks that waste money. We have programs
that have no account But when I was governor of Florida,
four thousand lines of the budget, every line had a
written purpose. If you didn't meet your purpose, I vetoed
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your money. We can't even I mean it's hard to
even get a copy of the budget up here, let
alone is there a purpose. So so we've got to
get to the bottom of this. This is unfair, it's
un American, it's infurious.
Speaker 25 (38:07):
Has got to Senator Scott. We have to get to
the bottom of this. But it strikes me that the
most immediate pressing thing. We're not going to get Minnesota
to reform itself unless we can have a revolution in
their state government. But we've tried several times. We're not
going to get washed. Certainly, we're not going to flip Washington.
We're not going to flip fraud in California anytime soon.
(38:28):
It's what's the step I guess, first of all, what
could the administration do to have immediate accountability for this?
Not just in terms of arresting perpetrators, but I think
a lot of people are asking, Okay, we know the
fraud is there.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Can we bring a.
Speaker 25 (38:41):
Stop to it in a quick way, even if that's
something as simple as saying Minnesota doesn't get money anymore?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, well that's kind of some of it.
Speaker 14 (38:49):
Yeah, so right now, one thing they should be doing,
and they're focused on it. If you talk to Brooke
Rollins or you've talked to Membina, as you talk to them,
you know they're going through program by program and they're
gonna they're gonna do everything they can't. That's number one.
Number two is we've got it. We've got in Congress.
We've got to pass measures to stop the fraud and
(39:09):
make sure when we pass things it doesn't allow the
fraud to happen. So, so what you know, people like
Ron Johnson and Mike Lee and Cynthia lummis I are doing.
We keep coming up with ideas of how do you
stop the waste.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
Now.
Speaker 14 (39:24):
Part of it is stop the earmarks. Part of it
is don't have programs that have no accountability. That's part
of it. And then the other part is let's make
sure that the you know, executive branch has the ability
to stop it. And then we need to be doing investigations.
We need to do real investigations of of the of
of you know, each of these programs. I've been think,
(39:45):
I think about I've said for seven years that all
this fraud with regard to Tobre pick up, and I
can't get the Democrats to help me. I'm on the right,
I'm on the right committee, but I have to have
Democrat votes to get this done, to fix the UN
the labal fraud, and to repick up after hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Jeez, they don't want to do it, Senator, they don't care.
I'm just I wonder if you're going to get maybe
a John fetterman if in the Senate, if there's laws
that need to be changed, is there? You know, there's
too little time here. And I actually have to ask
you about Greenland. I had no idea you spoke with
representatives from Greenland as much as you did fifty nine.
Speaker 14 (40:24):
Denmark is a great ally and I know every time
I talk to them, I talk to their ambassad quite
a bit. They want to work with us, so we'll
see what happens.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Sir, all right, Senator, So you know these people, I.
Speaker 14 (40:35):
Know exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, what is going to happen next? Not let.
Speaker 14 (40:42):
So I don't you know. Look, Denmark is a great ally.
I talked to their Basslard quite a bit. Jasper is
a good guy. So I think Trump is trying to
be strategic. I don't believe we're going to be invading Greenland,
but I do believe we're going to figure out how
to work with Greenland to have more military assets on
there so we can count act what Sean and Rush
is doing. So something will happen there. You never know exactly.
(41:04):
You know the process. You know that let's make a deal.
Guy who's gonna do But something will happen there to
put us in a better position.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I mean we're gonna have Pete hag Seth on in
the second hour, Senator, So we're gonna ask.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Him about Greenland.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
So and again, audience members, if you have questions, send
him in Freedom at Charliekirk dot com.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
He sent him a lot.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
They're just they want the Secretary of War is like, Hey,
any question any question you want.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
So, it's fantastic he'd sent a great job. Yeah, he's doing.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
By the way, he was our most popular UH cabinet
secretary according to the Amfest Rappel.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
So tells you something, people love it. Yeah.
Speaker 14 (41:42):
I think he's I think he's doing great job. I
just saw him. We did a class briefing on Venezuela
just last hour.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Oh well, shoot, I wish now that you tell me
that I want to. I wish I could keep you
for a couple more minutes. Senator, thank you for joining.
We'll have you on again soon. Thank you so much, sir.
Speaker 14 (41:56):
Oh bye, see you guys, see both of you. By by.
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Speaker 3 (43:09):
Blake, there's we got new information. There is a tweet
here from Trician McLaughlin who was just on the show.
Actually she said today ice officers in Minneapolis were conducting
targeted operations, very targeted. There's over two thousand that have
surged to that area following the Somali fraud ring, basically
following Nick Shirley's expose, and when riders began blocking ice officers,
(43:35):
and one of these violent riders weaponized her vehicle attempting
to run over our law enforcement officers at an attempt
to kill them, certainly or at least to block them.
But yes, certainly those things can be fatal, and these
people lose their minds and they do crazy things, an
act of domestic terrorism, says Trician McLoughlin. An Ice officer,
fearing for his life, the lives of his fellow law
(43:56):
enforcement and the safety of the public, fired defensive shots.
The alleged perpetrator was hit in his deceased. The Ice
officer who was hurt are expected to make full recoveries.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
And I totally agree with this.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
By the way which she says next, this is the
direct consequence of constant attacks and demonization of our officers
by sanctuary politicians who fuel and encourage rampant assaults on
our law enforcement. These men and women who are simply
enforcing the law on the books are facing a thirteen
hundred percent increase in assaults against them in an eight
thousand percent increase in death threats.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
This is an evolving situations.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
We're giving we will give public more information as soon
as it becomes.
Speaker 25 (44:31):
And that's the most important part because she says that
we'll see there's reportedly video, we'll see, we'll get more
context on what fully happened. But the big picture is this,
which is the reason ICE has to go around all
acting like they're basically going to war, is because they're
treated as an enemy force by these leftern cities, by
(44:53):
these left wing governments. Their job would be a million
times easier if they could pluck people out of jails
like focus on that, get the crisriminals so getting arrested.
That's happening all the time. They have treated them like criminals.
They've encouraged violence against them, and they've harassed them. And
so regardless of how this incident went down, that is
why it happened and that needs to be the focus. Yeah,
(45:13):
the blood of this person is on Jacob Fry's hands,
It's on Governor Tim Wallas's hands, period.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
I totally well said a thousand percent agree. I actually
like it when we disagree on stuff a little bit
because it makes for a live I just happened to
completely agree with what you said. You have to so
no sob stories here, absolutely not. I have seen video
after video. There was an instance that really sticks out
in my mind where I saw a video of this
guy ramming ice officers in California. They ram him back,
(45:43):
they stop him and arrest him. He gets released. He
gets immediately he's an American citizen. So he goes over
straight to CNN about two hours later cries victim on
national television. And this is what they do, this is
their cycle. So you have these vigilantes they call themselves
it is an activists or whatever, and they're working on
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behalf of illegal immigrants because you know, why get off
your couch to help American citizens. They want to go
help the marginalized, right, So then they do this and
they put lives on the line. They put lives at
risk of federal law enforcement. And by the way, new
today ice officers have surpassed their recruiting goals of ten thousand.
(46:23):
According to one Big Beautiful Bill, they've hired twelve thousand.
There's twelve thousand new ice officers on the streets of
the United States. And I want to underscore Blake's point
here about this the way that it was done. So
you go back to Obama was called the deporter in Chief.
Do you realize that eighty percent of those deportations were
done the old fashioned way? What does that mean? It
(46:44):
means that an illegal immigrant was arrested, apprehended on the
streets of his or her you know, invaded city. They
would go into jail, the local officials would process that person.
There would be an ICE detainer. They would hand that
person over to ICE safely, securely. There's no race in
the streets. There's no DHS, rammings, there's no none of
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
It's secure.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
The person has handcuffs on, they get put on a plane,
process put back in their country of origin. When sanctuary
cities and states refuse to cooperate with federal law enforcement,
this is the result. They have to go into the streets,
do raids, They have to go knock on doors, They
have to endanger the public in order to do the
public a good.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So this is completely Blake's point.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
The blood is on the hand of Jacob Fry, who's,
by the way, demanding that these ICE agents be removed
from a city, which is not gonna happen by the
way and you hear Tom home and saying we're gonna
double down. We're coming for California, We're coming for Illinois.
We're coming from New York next so look out. More
of this is coming is as it should be, and uh,
(47:47):
you know, just say a prayer for our brave men
and women of DHS and ICE as they are forced
to not work in cooperation behind closed doors in safety
but instead have to go out on the streets and commit,
you know, conduct raids on businesses and homes and that
sort of thing. Because this is completely on the head
and on the hands of local officials. It's absolutely infuriating. Blake,
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we had a kind of related but there was a
House Oversight Committee hearing, the first of its kind. Some
explosive allegations were made in this hearing by Republicans in
the state of Minnesota that were saying they have tried
to conduct oversight and to deal with the fraud in Minnesota.
Speaker 25 (48:29):
We saw this one viral the other day that there's
in twenty eighteen, their Inspector General did a whole report,
or the staff there did a whole thing. It laid
out exactly how fraud happens. They say they have fake
groups that come in or associake groups. They have groups
of like these daycares that come in and say we're
interested in stopping fraud, but they're really trying to deflect
(48:50):
investigations away. They had a whistleblower explain this to them.
They said, we think half of all of our daycare
money may be going to fraud, if not more, and
then the Inspector General just buries it.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Well and get this, they are fabricating documents play cut
two sixty two.
Speaker 26 (49:06):
According to the non partisan Legislative Auditor, this is another
case of mismanagement of taxpayer money. But perhaps the most
explosive revelation is that managers within DHS, the Department of
Human Services, tried to cover their tracks by backdating and
creating new.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Documents backdating, so they're trying to cover their tracks. Other
testimony from this morning's hearing said that they were blacklisted,
that it was career suicide to call out fraud. The
depth of the rot seems to know no end here.
It's truly stunning, and I think we all knew this
was going on. We all knew that there was fraud,
(49:43):
we all knew that it was bloat. But it was
so amorphous and abstract, and now you're seeing in vivid
technicolor exactly how it works.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
And they get political.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Kickbacks, and they get promises for whole communities like the
Somalis to vote in block for them for reelection.
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is
January seventh. Lots going on. We are going to throw
right here at the top to the press conference that
Caroline Levitt is leading and the White House Press briefing room.
It's the first one since the deposition of Maduro in Venezuela,
so we're actually getting a lot of information. Let's go
ahead and throw back to Caroline Levit.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Maximum leverage over the interim authorities in Venezuela right now,
and the President has made it very clear that this
is a country within the United States, the Western hemisphere,
close by the United States, that is no longer going
to be sending illegal drugs to the United States of America.
It's no longer going to be sending and trafficking illegal
people in criminal cartels to kill American.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Citizens as they have in the past. And the President is.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Fully deploying his piece through strength Foreign policy agenda.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
So we're continuing to be in close.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Coordination with the interim authorities and their decisions are going
to continue.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
To be dictated by the United States of America.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Just one follow up when you talk about that leverage, there,
has the Venezuelan government fully committed to turning over its
oil to.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
The United States and definitely and what happens if they
do not.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, as you saw the President announced last night, this
was a deal. This was a deal made by the
President and his team with the Venezuelan interim authorities. This
will benefit both the American people and the Venezuelan people.
And Secretary Right and the Department of Energy are working
with the interim authorities and also with the private oil
industry to execute on this historic energy deal that's not
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only good for the United States, but it's also going
to revive the prosperity, the safety, the security.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Of both the United States and Venezuela as well ed.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Following up on the oil part of this, thirty to
fifty million barrels of oil, how exactly is actually into
worker You're getting it out of Venezuela into the United States.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yes, then that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So as you know ed, as the President announced last night,
this was the sanctioned oil that was basically just sitting
in barrels, sitting on ships because of the effective quarantine
of the United States of America and these the interim
authorities have agreed to release dot oil to the United States,
so it will be arriving here at home very soon.
The United States government has already begun marketing Venezuelan crude
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oil and the globate marketplace for the benefit of the
United States. Engage the world's leading commodity marketers key banks
to execute and provide financial support for these crude oil
and crude product sales. All proceeds from the sale of
Venezuelan crude oil and products will first settle in US
control accounts at globally recognized banks to guarantee the legitimacy
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and integrity of the ultimate distribution of proceeds, and those
funds will be dispersed for the benefit of the American
people and the Venezuelan people at the discretion of the
United States government.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
Sounds like it requires a lot of private sector engagement
and agreement, and the oil industry and the banking industry
I have that.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yet, there's a lot of private sector engagement that's happening
right now, as you know, Secretary right our Energy secretary
who's heading up this big project, is in Florida today
meeting with some of these oil executives, and as we
confirmed earlier, they will also be at the White House
later this week. So they are absolutely eager to invest
their eager about these opportunities and Secretary right is a
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very well knowledgeable guy when it comes to oil and energy,
and he's the perfect man for the job.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Another quarter of the world. The real quick going to
go go ahead.
Speaker 8 (04:27):
So just to follow up on the oil thirty to
fifty million barrels is an initial trunk, if you will,
and then what happened to after that.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
For.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I won't get ahead of the plans that the President
and his team are currently speaking with the Interim Authority
is about.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
But rest assured there is a long term plan here.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Secretary Rubio and the entire team are working diligently on
and this is just sort of the first action that
you all are seeing ed.
Speaker 9 (04:52):
Thanks goh So.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
In order to get these oil companies to invest billions
in Venezuela, how will the US reassure that their workers
will be safe in Venezuela to there be troops.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
You will at this point in time, as you know,
there are no troops on the ground in Venezuela.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
The President, of course, reserves the.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Right to use the United States military if necessary, it's
not something he wants to do. Diplomacy is always the
first option, as you saw he tried that with Nicholas Maduro,
but unfortunately he was an illegitimate dictator and an unserious person,
and so President Trump authorized this law enforcement operation. And
now Nicholas Maduro is sitting in a prison cell in
New York. So certainly the President is going to do
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what's in the best interests of the American people, and
that includes workers from our energy and oil industry meeting tomorrow.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
With that meeting tomorrow, what is the message the president
is going to give to the oil executives and what
does he want to hear?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Well, the meeting is on Friday, and it's just a
meeting to discuss, obviously the immense opportunity that is before
these oil companies right now.
Speaker 10 (05:48):
Stephen Caroline, and congratulations again, thank you to The New
Yorker had a story yesterday on the Vice president and
it questioned his quote notable absence on Venezuela.
Speaker 9 (06:00):
The sub headline asked, was the Vice president's exclusion from
the operation in Venezuela and expression of this anti anti
interventionist ideology or political calculation. Would you be able to
discuss the Vice president's role in Venezuela policy.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I did see that report in the New Yorker and
quite frankly, I laughed out loud because it's very clear
it's a fake report that's trying to so distrust in
division amongst the president and his team. Let me just
be very clear, if the vice president has been involved
in all policy, he is the right hand man of
the president on all policy matters, including Venezuela policy. He
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was of course read in and deeply involved in this
operation from the very beginning, and he was present on
the night of the operation via secure communication at a
different location as to not damage the operational secrecy of
this mission that was so incredibly important to ensure that
this mission could be carried out successfully without endangering our troops.
Speaker 11 (06:58):
Sure, the US seized tanker recently, Russia specifically asked the
United States not to seize that tanker. Does this action
risk a larger conflict with Russia?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I believe you're referring to the below one tanker that
was seized this morning. The Department of Justice and the
Department of Homeland Security and coordination with the Department of
War did announce that seizure this morning for violations of
US sanctions. I've spoken about the enforcement of our sanctions
policy at the podium prior to the new year. In
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this administration is going to fully enforce the sanctioned policy.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Of the United States.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
The vessel this morning was seized in the North Atlantic
pursuant to a warrant issued by a US federal court
after being tracked, and this was a Venezuelan shadow fleet
vessel that has transported sanctioned oil in the United States
of America.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Under this president is not going to tolerate that.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I would also just add the vessel head a judicial
seizure order and the crew mean the crew is now
subject to prosecution for any applicable violation of federal law
and they will be brought to the United States for
such prosecution if necessary.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Kelly, Caroline, happy to you, to you, Thank you too
much to talk to you.
Speaker 12 (08:12):
A couple of things real quickly. The first question about
the Venezuelan people. As you know, there's some eight million
of Venezuelans here, some of them celebrating in the streets.
There are Venezuelans on the ground who are concerned about
their safety. What does the Trump administration, what is it
doing to actually help people in Venezuela understand that they
will be secure throughout this transition.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I think the fact that this president actually followed through
on the long held promise of the United States of America,
the bipartisan promise to take down the illegitimate Maduro regime,
should give assurance to the Venezuelan people and also Venezuelan
Americans who fled this communist regime for a better life
here at home, that this is a president who is
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serious about taking down illegitimate regimes and who is also
serious about securing the security of the United States of America,
including the Venezuelan American people. And I would just add
that this is something that not just Republicans and President
Trump have talked about for a very long time, but
it is also something that Democrats have advocated for.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
In twenty twenty, Chuck Schumer said that.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
At the time President Trump had not brought an end
to the Maduro regime. The Maduro regime is more powerful
today and more in trench today than it was when
the president began. Now you hear Chuck Schumer out there
saying this is reckless. The American people and the Venezuelan
people should be in fear. But this is something that
Chuck Schumer has long advocated for Senator Chris van Holland.
Same thing had said that the United States is going
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to use its leverage and influence to push for negotiations
to transition to the truly elected leader. This was under
President Biden. We know Maduro and his cronies don't want
to go quietly into the night. The US needs to
work to ratchet up the pressure now. Senator Holland says
it's an illegal act of war to get rid of
of Nicholas Maduro. So the hypocrisy is really astounding here,
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and thank you for giving me an opportunity to point
it out with Kaylea, I.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Mean sorry, go ahead, Yes, the reports that the administration
is demanding that Venezuela cut ties with China Russia, I
ran in Cuba.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Can you confirm I'm sorry it reports that the administration
has essentially demanded that Venezuela cut.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Ties with China Russia. I ran in Cuba. Can you
confirm that?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Well, those alleged demands were made in a classified briefing
by Secretary Rubio, and I know that there's a lot
of leaks coming out of these classified briefings, so I'm
not going to confirm or deny or get into what
the Secretary has set in classified settings to members of Congress.
But I think that the administration has made it quite
clear to the interim authorities in Venezuela that this is
the Western Hemisphere and American dominance is going to continue
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under this president.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Aska.
Speaker 13 (10:50):
There have also been reports that the US could potentially
by Greenland is as one potential option on the table.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
What would such an offer look like?
Speaker 13 (10:59):
Is there anything monetarily you could provide a details there.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Well, that's something that's currently being actively discussed by the
President and his national security team. And I would point
out that the acquisition of Greenland by the United States
is not a new idea. This is something that presidents
dating back to the eighteen hundreds have said is advantageous
for America's national security. The President has been very open
and clear with all of you and with the world
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that he've used it in the best interests of the
United States to deter Russian and Chinese aggression in the
Arctic region. And so that's why his team is currently
talking about what a potential purchase would look like.
Speaker 14 (11:37):
Chucky here, I.
Speaker 13 (11:38):
Thought about Greenland, why not rule out taking it by
military force?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I know that past presidents and past leaders have often
ruled things out. They've often been very open about ruling
things in and basically broadcasting their foreign policy strategy to
the rest of the world, not just to our allies,
but most egregious to our adversaries. That's not something this
president does. All options are always on the table for
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President Trump as he examines what's in the best interests
of the United States.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
But I will just.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Say that the president's first option always has been diplomacy. Again,
look at Venezuela. He tried ardently to strike a good
deal with Nicholas Maduro, and he told him, I will
use the United States military and you will not like
it if you don't take such a deal.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And look at what happened with respect to Iran.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
The President said the same thing, right, he try to
have serious interest and then a deal with the Iranian
regime with respect to their nuclear capabilities. They were not interested,
and so Operation Midnight Hammer happened, which was another remarkable
military success under the leadership of this commander in chief.
So the president keeps his options open, but diplomacy is
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always the first.
Speaker 15 (12:51):
Quickly, just one additional call uponment does the President recognize
Denmark's ownership as part of the Kingdom because there been
some Republican senators questioning, you know, the claim that Denmark
has to Greenland. Is the President in that camp with them,
you know, questioning.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
The legality of I have not heard him question it personally,
but you're welcome to ask him yourself next time you
have the chance.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Thank andans lifted for Venezuela.
Speaker 15 (13:18):
We got to lift some sanctions to let the oil
come in.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Can you talk about that just very brief.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, So the US is selectively rolling back sanctions to
enable the transport and the sale of Venezuelan crude and
oil products to the global markets.
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Speaker 5 (14:36):
Caroly Annie, thank you.
Speaker 16 (14:38):
There are some reports from Venezuela that the country's leaders
are cracking down on the population, specifically suppressing public expression
of support from Maduro's ouster.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
Is that kind of behavior consistent with what the president
wants to see how the president wants to see the
leaders to take on the population.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
It would not be consistent.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
And I'll let the present and it's national security team
speak further on that. I know they are well aware
and tracking.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Kelly.
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Two questions, One on the c's vestments, the villa of
the Sofia. Can you tell us where they're headed, what
happens to any existing cargo, and you reference personnel but
potentially facing the prosecution.
Speaker 17 (15:15):
That's one thing I'd like.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Yes, And on the Bela yes, okay.
Speaker 18 (15:19):
And on Anny's question, if I can also ask, does
the administration believe that the interim regime should release all
political dissidents and prisoners and return to tainted Americans.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
That's not a question that I've personally spoken about the
to the President with so I will let him answer
that question. I don't want to make new policy at
this podium today with respect to Venezuela. With respect to
the two ships that you mentioned, I spoke with you
about the Bella one. There was another vessel this morning,
the Sofia, that, in coordination with the Department of War
the Department of Homeland Security apprehended it. This is a
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stateless sanctioned dark fleet motor tanker and this occurred without incident.
This vessel was operating in international waters and conducting illicit
activities in the Caribbean Sea. The US Coast Guard is
is escorting the SOFIA to the United States for final disposition.
To answer your question, Kelly directly, this was through Operation
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Southern Sphere. The Department of War is unwavering in its
mission to crush illicit activity in the Western Hemisphere, and
as the President has repeatedly stated, We're going to defend
our homeland and restore security and strength across the Americas.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Dasha, Sasha Caurerlin, thank you and having me here. Thanks
to you too.
Speaker 16 (16:32):
The questions one on Venezuela, one on Greenland. You repeatedly
a podium called the current leadership in Venezuela interim leadership.
There are Republicans and Democrats alike that say they want
to see elections in Venezuela. The President has said it's
too soon to do that right now. But is there
a timeline for elections in Venezuela as he committed to
seeing that year for example, you.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Just said, the President has answered that question.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
So I will reiterate what the President has said a
few times now to all of you, which is that
it's too prematurture and too early to dictate a timetable
for elections in Venezuela right now.
Speaker 16 (17:03):
Carolyn Carolina, You've just talked to Jackie about diplomacy first, right,
The Days have repeatedly said they are willing to collaborate
on all of the concerns that the President has, whether
it's more truths, mineral rights, intelligence sharing. Why does the
president feel he needs to own Greenland and not and
put out the threat of military action when this could
be done through diplomacy.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Well, who said diplomacy isn't taking place behind the scenes, Stash.
I mean the President is interested in diplomacy. The National
Security team is as well, and of course he's always
willing to pick up the phone for everybody and hear
out their concerns. But the president is the president of
the United States of America, and he's always going to
be very clear about what he's views as being in
our nation's best interest.
Speaker 19 (17:45):
Reagan, Thanks, Caroline, I have a quessure for you in Venezuela,
and then I'd love to ask you about Minnesota and
Tim Walls.
Speaker 16 (17:51):
Sure.
Speaker 19 (17:52):
On Venezuela, I'm wondering does the administration hope to start
sending more Venezuelan migrants back home or have them self,
or if the situation of the country and groups.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
As far as I'm concerned, the policies of the Trump
administration and the Department of Homeland Security have not changed.
All those illegally present in the country are subject to deportation.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
And I would just like to add how we got here.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
The President was very clear on the campaign to the
American public, and it's one of the many reasons they
resoundingly re elected him back to this office that he
was not only going to crush foreign drug cartels, but
that he was not going to stand by and watch
as the illegitimate Venezuelan regime was sending illegal criminals and
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gang members and rapists and murderers to our country, which
happened to the tune of thousands under the previous administration.
In president and so there could be nothing more America
First than this operation.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
That took place last week.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
And I would just remind all of you in this
room that there were innocent Americans like Jocelyn Nungere who
lost their lives at the hands of dangerous Venezuelan criminals
who were sent here by the Maduro regime. And that
has been the President's north star and guiding principle throughout
his entire policy since January twentieth Minnesota.
Speaker 19 (19:13):
Does the administration believe that Tim Walls potentially dropped out
of the governor's race because he could be under criminal investigation.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I don't know if there's a criminal investigation.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
If there was, I wouldn't be able to comment on
it from up here, to be honest with you, but
I think Tim Walls probably dropped out of the race
because he realizes he no longer has the support of
the people of his own state, which is a remarkable
downfall considering he was the number two on the Democrat
Party's ticket just about a year ago. When it comes
to Minnesota, the fraud that we have seen, the wide
scale of fraud is really remarkable.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
It's egregious.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I would encurcourage every single journalist in this room to
go to Minnesota and to cover it yourselves. As for
the Trump administration, we have officials who have been on
the ground almost every day. Secretary Nome was there yesterday.
Secretary Bessant will be traveling there later this week to
talk about the fraud and to do a roundtable on
this very topic.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
And I would just like to leave you with an update.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
To date, the Department of Justice has charged ninety eight
total defendants in several Medicaid fraud and related case programs.
Sixty four were convicted and eighty five of the ninety
eight charged were of Somali descent. The DOJ has also
issued over seventeen thousand, seventeen hundred subpoenas, executed over one
hundred and thirty search warrants, and they have now added
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more attorneys to their office there to absorb the case flow.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
DHS is on the.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Ground going door to door conducting large scale criminal and
HSI investigations. They have also sent approximately two thousand agents
to Minneapolis to assist with law enforcement and immigration enforcement.
As I said, Secretary Nome was on the ground yesterday.
The Department of Health and Human Services has also begun
requiring a justification and photo evidence for all childcare related
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payments nationwide, and they required Minnesota to conduct a full
audit of all childcare centers. They also froze one hundred
and eighty five million dollars in funding to Minnesota, and
doctor Oz who was just here, also notified Governor Walls
they're going to begin auditing Medicaid recipients and deferring payments
on claims based on waste fraud and abuse. The Department
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of Labor is also conducting a targeted review of Minnesota's
unemployment program, Department of Agriculture requiring Minnesota to conduct recertification
for SNAP recipients, and HUD has launched investigations into the
public housing SBA has also suspended nearly seven thousand borrowers
amid suspected fraudulent activity. So, with all of that rest assured,
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this is an all hands on deck effort from the
entire administration to get to the bottom of this and
ensure that they're ripping off of taxpayers in the state
of Minnesota. And it won't just be Minnesota, It'll be
any state across this country where fraud has taken place
and we are protecting law abiding tax pays American citizens.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Phil La you, Caroline.
Speaker 20 (22:03):
Just to follow up on Greenland, there are treaties already
on the books that give the United States access to
the island. They can construct and maintain military bases there,
we can house personnel on the island, the USS control
of landings, takeoffs.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Anchorages, etc.
Speaker 20 (22:20):
So I'm curious if you could just spell out for
the American public what specifically would the US gain by
taking control of Greenland that the US doesn't already.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Have access to right now, more control over the Arctic region,
and ensuring that China and Russia, in our adversaries, cannot
continue their aggression in this very important and strategic region.
And there would be many other benefits as well, that
again the President and his national security team are currently
talking about.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Jeff, I'll give you another.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
One abroad first, and that question on warn Rossey.
Speaker 21 (22:57):
Are you concerned about increasing tensions with Russia because of
the tanker seizures and how does the US action in
Venezuela impact the ongoing relationship with China and the President's
relationship with President she.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I think the President has very open, honest and good
relationships with both President Putin and Russia, and also President
she of China. He has spoken with them numerous times,
as you know, since coming to office about a year ago,
and I believe that those personal relationships.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Are going to continue.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But as for the President and the United States, he's
going to enforce our policy that's best for the United
States of America, and with respect to these ships seizers,
that means enforcing the embargo against all dark fleet vessels
that are illegally transporting oil and only legitimate commerce. To
answer your question much earlier, Rachel, determined by the United
States is going to be permitted, and that's the policy
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of this administration, and he's not afraid to implement.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Last one.
Speaker 14 (23:59):
I remember the.
Speaker 21 (24:00):
Cleric here the alien of his term if he was
committed to Article five and NATO, and he said yes.
Has his stance on NATO or his commitment to NATO changed?
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Did you see his statement earlier today? He said, we
will always be there for NATO, even if they are
not there for us. And I think that answers your
question directly.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Yes.
Speaker 10 (24:18):
Just to follow up on what I'm saying, their lobly
blessing to commit that if any Native members are attacked in.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
The United States with future Again, the President addressed this
directly himself this morning after seeing the coverage from all
of you in this room on television, and he made
it very clear, We're always going to be there for
NATO even if they have not done right.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
By the United States of America, and they have not.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
They have finally increased their defense spending at the.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Request of this president. But it was only because of
this president that they did that. To take a couple four. Michael,
go ahead, New York.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Congratulations, thanks you.
Speaker 22 (24:54):
Questions one on healthcare, one on Mexico. On healthcare, the
President says he wants Republicans to be flexible on the
High Amendment in order to ask healthcare legislation. What is
the White House's message to pro life voters who say
federal funding for abortion goes against their values.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Well, the President did not change the administration's policy. It
was President Trump who signed an executive order protecting the
High Amendment. It's the Trump administration that has taken multiple
actions on various fronts to ensure that taxpayer dollars are
not funding the.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Practice of abortion.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
What the President was saying yesterday was Republicans and frankly
Democrats too, need to show a little bit more flexibility
so we can actually get something done with respect to
the issue of healthcare.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Republicans have amazing ideas.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
The President himself, as we spoke about earlier, has launched
this Most Favored Nation Drug Pricing initiative, has cut good
deals with big pharma. He wants to see Republicans and
Democrats too, if they're willing codify those executive orders into
law so that these good deals can remain and these
prices can continue to be lowered long after this president
and this deal maker in chief is gone. President's talked
(26:00):
a lot about health savings accounts and giving more money
back to the healthcare consumer rather than to these giant
insurance companies, and he's been very outspoken and tough on
them too, and I think you'll see more and hear
more from him directly on that issue. So he wants
to see Congress get something done with respect to healthcare.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
And that was the point that he was driving home yesterday.
Speaker 22 (26:20):
So Goline, President Trump says, the drug cartels are running Mexico.
Speaker 14 (26:24):
What action does.
Speaker 22 (26:25):
He need to see Mexico's President, Claudia scheinbamb take to
prove that she's in control of that country, in control
of those hotels, And does the White House believe she's
able to do that without US intervention?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Look, I think the President was speaking very candidly and
frankly about the reality on the ground in Mexico.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Hayley jar and happy to the year.
Speaker 13 (26:43):
I want to say too, about this ceased tanker with
bella horse. Before this that Russia had sent a submarine
to the sport. It was there any engagement with that submarine,
and then was the deconfliction align with Russian used ahead
of forty and a half.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Again, this was a Venezuelan shadow flea vessel that has
transported sanctioned oil. The vessel was deemed stateless after flying
a false flag and it had a judicial seizure order
and that's why the crew will be subject to prosecution.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Mary Columbia, the President talking weeks, I will be open
for an operation there, sure, the President of Columbia, the
expecting golf.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Course and time too, and I want to be on California.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
That would be a very unwise question for me to
answer to way into what's your next question in California?
Speaker 19 (27:31):
Can you share any more about the broad investigation?
Speaker 5 (27:34):
And the President send them there Westland.
Speaker 19 (27:36):
Who's being investigated and.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Where's it sturning?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Again, this is going to be a all hands on
deck government wide effort. The President has directed all agencies
across the board to look at federal spending programs in
not just Minnesota, but also in the state of California,
to identify fraud and to prosecute to the fullest extent
of the law all.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Those who have committed it. We take one more sure, Thank.
Speaker 23 (28:00):
You, Carolyn. Yesterday was the five year anniversary of January sixth.
Democrats and mainstream media continued to push their big lie
that it was an insurrection and that police officers died
that day. The reality is that four Trump supporters died
on January sixth, and two women were killed by January
sixth police. Everybody knows Ashley Babbitt was shot in cold
blood by Capitol police officer Michael Byrd, But there was
(28:21):
another woman. Her name was Roseanne Boylan from Georgia, and
she was peppable to gas and ultimately bruly beaten with
a stick by January six police officer Lila Morris. The
Biden administration and mainstream media lied and told Americans Roseanne
Boylan died of overdoes on Capital steps. Her family is
now asking for an investigation. Is the administration aware of
the circumstances of her death and will there be an investigation?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Finally, well, for an investigation, I will have to defer
you to either the FBI or the Department of Justice,
and I'm sorry to have to do that, but with
respect to all of the facts that you just laid out,
The White House relished the opportunity yesterday to actually create
a new website to share the fact with the American public,
but also all those.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
In this room.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
We knew the media would be covering January sixth quite
a bit because they think it's something that the American
people are still believing their lies on. They think it's
something that still helps their case against this president. Obviously
not or else he wouldn't have been re elected in
an overwhelming fashion in November of last year. And so
I would encourage everyone to take a look at the website.
It's quite well done, and thank you all very much.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
It's great to be back with you.
Speaker 16 (29:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Massive amount of breaking news there. It was the first
White House press briefing that Caroline has done since the Maduro.
I guess you would call it attack a seizure deposition. Also,
we've got two tankers that have been basically apprehended boarded
by US military. A lot of questions about that. My
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our next guest, Senator Rick Scott, from the great State
of Florida. It's good to have you back. Senator how
have you been.
Speaker 14 (31:01):
I've been great. Happy New Year, Andrew. It's going to
be a great year.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I've never been so ready to turn the calendar over
to the next year. I will tell you twenty twenty
five was a absolute doozy. But there is so much
breaking news here, Senator. You know, there's Greenland. There was
a shooting that I want to actually inform our audience
about involving an ICE officer in Minneapolis. As you know,
we've been surging ICE DHS personnel over two thousand on
(31:28):
the streets of Minneapolis and Saint Paul, massive, massive reaction
from the federal government. It appears that it was a
ramming and a shooting. This is breaking news, a ramming
and a shooting. So a lot of times the citizen activists,
these volunteers on the left, they will follow around ICE
vehicles trying to alert the public, and sometimes they ram them,
(31:50):
and sometimes they try and get in their way. Sometimes
they play fast and loose with their own vehicle. It
appears initial indications, we're waiting for more information here, that
that's what this was. But Senator, let's start there. There
was a House Oversight Committee hearing on the Somali fraud
and the complicity within the local politicians there covering it up.
(32:12):
Maybe they were getting political kickbacks. What's your take of it.
You have run the state of Florida, You know these processes,
you know how the bureaucracies work.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
What's your reaction.
Speaker 14 (32:21):
Well, I'm not surprised. Number One. When I became governor
of Florida January twenty eleventh, I saw going agency by agency. Now,
my background is I'm a business guy, and in business,
you don't waste your money, right, and you solve your
customer's needs. They don't want to pay you a little
extra money because you wasted money or did stupid things.
So what I watched agency by agency, there would be
(32:43):
they wouldn't worry about fraud against the agency, They wouldn't
worry about improper payments. They look as free money. The
way is the way. So many people looked at it.
So I went agency by agency and fix it. Then
we got all this free federal money. It's free, by
the way. The attitude that many governors have is if
(33:03):
the federal government's paying for it up, it's free. Didn't
cost you anything, right, And so I watched it like
after a hurricane. People would say, well, if we just
got to, you know, we can go get all this
free federal money. So I watched unbelievable fraud attempts with
regard to debris pick up after hurricanes. But that's just
the tip of the iceberg. Every government program, and especially
(33:28):
federal programs, the oversight is pathetic, it's horrible. We have studies,
We know that there's you know, hundreds of billions of
dollars of fraud. We know there's tens of billions of
dollars worth of improper payments and we don't get the
money back right, and then we know, we know people
lie cheating steel, and we we're just sitting there and
(33:50):
people say, well, it's it's free. Why do you worry
so much about this, Well, we should worry about it
because thirty eight and a half thirty dollars worth of debt.
Your interest rates are too high because of that, you're
the inflation is caused by all this wasteful spending. And
it's not fair. It's not fair. The hard working the
kid that's out there or family that's out there busting
their butt every day. And then somebody else doesn't want
(34:12):
to work, so they take advantage of a state government,
a local government, a federal government. It's wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah, I mean it keeps getting worse the deeper this
rabbit hole goes. Senator, it looks like, you know, Keith Ellison,
there was a leaked tape released of him that he
was basically, you know, said he was going to cover
up for these Somalis if they kind of gave them
political kickbacks, and he was gonna they were gonna run
cover for them. There's multiple questions here. I'm going to
(34:39):
play David Marcus from Fox News. He had a great
take on it on to get your reaction to it,
because we had Senator Ron Johnson on the show yesterday.
I know a friend and colleague of yours in the
Senate who said that these were these systems are designed
to fail, They're designed to be looted. They're designed to
have wealth extracted from working class Americans, from the white man,
(35:00):
however you want to look at it, to be given
to marginalized communities. I thought David Marcus made an incredible
point here at two forty five.
Speaker 24 (35:07):
This is not standard Tammany Hall patronage and kickbacks, right,
We've always had that that was meant to keep people
in power, that was not meant to be a massive
redistribution of wealth. What we're seeing here is a massive
redistribution of wealth when these blue states allocate billions of
dollars for marginalized communities and then fail to put in
(35:27):
place any safeguards to stop theft. That's Marxism by fraud.
That's taking money from corporations, from rich people, saying we're
going to send it over here, We're not going to
pay any attention to what's happening to it.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
That line sticks with me. This is Marxism by fraud.
Is this intentional? Is this in a blue state, in
a blue setting?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Is this?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Is this the outgrowth of a really sick ideology that
is based on racial grievances, that's based on systemic oppression,
that's based on cr TEA, all of these ideologies.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Is it intentionally lacking oversight?
Speaker 14 (36:04):
Oh? Absolutely? I mean, think about this, is the most
of the taxes are paid by hard working middle class Americans.
That's who's paying most of the taxes in this country. Right.
It's taking their money and giving it to somebody else.
And then their goal is the politicians that give all
this away, Oh vote vote for them, because they're giving
(36:26):
you something for free because it's it's free Andrew that
doesn't cost anything, so absolutely. I mean, let me tell
you a quick story. I became governor of Florida. I
ran my whole campaign in twenty ten on jobs. I
go to the agency that doesn't employment. Right after I won,
I said, how's unemployment work? They said, well, you have to,
I said, She said, we're open six days a week
(36:46):
because unemployed freulians don't have enough time to apply during
the week. Really, I said, if you get unemployment, if
they do anything. They said, yeah, apply forf to fly
for five jobs a week. I said, you enforce that? Well, no,
I said, I said, so, I said, if you somebody
was on unemployment and you found them have a job,
would you, you know, accuse them of fraud and get
the money back? Well? No, I said, what's your purpose here?
(37:10):
Is that our purpose is to give as many people
on the program as we can, right because we don't,
you know, because that will feel good? Who cares? It's free?
By the way, they explained to me that at the time,
the federal government was paying the excess money. So it's free.
It's federal money. They don't care, and they think that's
just how they're going to get elected. And you look,
(37:30):
I've been up here seven years. Don't they don't you know,
the people, they don't set up the programs to work.
They intentionally allow it to be allowed, the fraud. And
then we have earmarks that waste money. We have programs
that have no account But when I was governor of Florida,
four thousand lines of the budget, every line had a
written purpose. If you didn't meet your purpose, I vetoed
(37:53):
your money. We can't even I mean it's hard to
even get a copy of the budget up here, let
alone is there a purpose. So so we've got to
get to the bottom of this. This is unfair, it's
un American, it's infurious.
Speaker 25 (38:07):
Has got to Senator Scott. We have to get to
the bottom of this. But it strikes me that the
most immediate pressing thing. We're not going to get Minnesota
to reform itself unless we can have a revolution in
their state government. But we've tried several times. We're not
going to get washed. Certainly, we're not going to flip Washington.
We're not going to flip fraud in California anytime soon.
(38:28):
It's what's the step I guess, first of all, what
could the administration do to have immediate accountability for this?
Not just in terms of arresting perpetrators, but I think
a lot of people are asking, Okay, we know the
fraud is there.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Can we bring a.
Speaker 25 (38:41):
Stop to it in a quick way, even if that's
something as simple as saying Minnesota doesn't get money anymore?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, well that's kind of some of it.
Speaker 14 (38:49):
Yeah, so right now, one thing they should be doing,
and they're focused on it. If you talk to Brooke
Rollins or you've talked to Membina, as you talk to them,
you know they're going through program by program and they're
gonna they're gonna do everything they can't. That's number one.
Number two is we've got it. We've got in Congress.
We've got to pass measures to stop the fraud and
(39:09):
make sure when we pass things it doesn't allow the
fraud to happen. So, so what you know, people like
Ron Johnson and Mike Lee and Cynthia lummis I are doing.
We keep coming up with ideas of how do you
stop the waste.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
Now.
Speaker 14 (39:24):
Part of it is stop the earmarks. Part of it
is don't have programs that have no accountability. That's part
of it. And then the other part is let's make
sure that the you know, executive branch has the ability
to stop it. And then we need to be doing investigations.
We need to do real investigations of of the of
of you know, each of these programs. I've been think,
(39:45):
I think about I've said for seven years that all
this fraud with regard to Tobre pick up, and I
can't get the Democrats to help me. I'm on the right,
I'm on the right committee, but I have to have
Democrat votes to get this done, to fix the UN
the labal fraud, and to repick up after hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Jeez, they don't want to do it, Senator, they don't care.
I'm just I wonder if you're going to get maybe
a John fetterman if in the Senate, if there's laws
that need to be changed, is there? You know, there's
too little time here. And I actually have to ask
you about Greenland. I had no idea you spoke with
representatives from Greenland as much as you did fifty nine.
Speaker 14 (40:24):
Denmark is a great ally and I know every time
I talk to them, I talk to their ambassad quite
a bit. They want to work with us, so we'll
see what happens.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Sir, all right, Senator, So you know these people, I.
Speaker 14 (40:35):
Know exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, what is going to happen next? Not let.
Speaker 14 (40:42):
So I don't you know. Look, Denmark is a great ally.
I talked to their Basslard quite a bit. Jasper is
a good guy. So I think Trump is trying to
be strategic. I don't believe we're going to be invading Greenland,
but I do believe we're going to figure out how
to work with Greenland to have more military assets on
there so we can count act what Sean and Rush
is doing. So something will happen there. You never know exactly.
(41:04):
You know the process. You know that let's make a deal.
Guy who's gonna do But something will happen there to
put us in a better position.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I mean we're gonna have Pete hag Seth on in
the second hour, Senator, So we're gonna ask.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Him about Greenland.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
So and again, audience members, if you have questions, send
him in Freedom at Charliekirk dot com.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
He sent him a lot.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
They're just they want the Secretary of War is like, Hey,
any question any question you want.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
So, it's fantastic he'd sent a great job. Yeah, he's doing.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
By the way, he was our most popular UH cabinet
secretary according to the Amfest Rappel.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
So tells you something, people love it. Yeah.
Speaker 14 (41:42):
I think he's I think he's doing great job. I
just saw him. We did a class briefing on Venezuela
just last hour.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Oh well, shoot, I wish now that you tell me
that I want to. I wish I could keep you
for a couple more minutes. Senator, thank you for joining.
We'll have you on again soon. Thank you so much, sir.
Speaker 14 (41:56):
Oh bye, see you guys, see both of you. By by.
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Speaker 3 (43:09):
Blake, there's we got new information. There is a tweet
here from Trician McLaughlin who was just on the show.
Actually she said today ice officers in Minneapolis were conducting
targeted operations, very targeted. There's over two thousand that have
surged to that area following the Somali fraud ring, basically
following Nick Shirley's expose, and when riders began blocking ice officers,
(43:35):
and one of these violent riders weaponized her vehicle attempting
to run over our law enforcement officers at an attempt
to kill them, certainly or at least to block them.
But yes, certainly those things can be fatal, and these
people lose their minds and they do crazy things, an
act of domestic terrorism, says Trician McLoughlin. An Ice officer,
fearing for his life, the lives of his fellow law
(43:56):
enforcement and the safety of the public, fired defensive shots.
The alleged perpetrator was hit in his deceased. The Ice
officer who was hurt are expected to make full recoveries.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
And I totally agree with this.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
By the way which she says next, this is the
direct consequence of constant attacks and demonization of our officers
by sanctuary politicians who fuel and encourage rampant assaults on
our law enforcement. These men and women who are simply
enforcing the law on the books are facing a thirteen
hundred percent increase in assaults against them in an eight
thousand percent increase in death threats.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
This is an evolving situations.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
We're giving we will give public more information as soon
as it becomes.
Speaker 25 (44:31):
And that's the most important part because she says that
we'll see there's reportedly video, we'll see, we'll get more
context on what fully happened. But the big picture is this,
which is the reason ICE has to go around all
acting like they're basically going to war, is because they're
treated as an enemy force by these leftern cities, by
(44:53):
these left wing governments. Their job would be a million
times easier if they could pluck people out of jails
like focus on that, get the crisriminals so getting arrested.
That's happening all the time. They have treated them like criminals.
They've encouraged violence against them, and they've harassed them. And
so regardless of how this incident went down, that is
why it happened and that needs to be the focus. Yeah,
(45:13):
the blood of this person is on Jacob Fry's hands,
It's on Governor Tim Wallas's hands, period.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
I totally well said a thousand percent agree. I actually
like it when we disagree on stuff a little bit
because it makes for a live I just happened to
completely agree with what you said. You have to so
no sob stories here, absolutely not. I have seen video
after video. There was an instance that really sticks out
in my mind where I saw a video of this
guy ramming ice officers in California. They ram him back,
(45:43):
they stop him and arrest him. He gets released. He
gets immediately he's an American citizen. So he goes over
straight to CNN about two hours later cries victim on
national television. And this is what they do, this is
their cycle. So you have these vigilantes they call themselves
it is an activists or whatever, and they're working on
(46:03):
behalf of illegal immigrants because you know, why get off
your couch to help American citizens. They want to go
help the marginalized, right, So then they do this and
they put lives on the line. They put lives at
risk of federal law enforcement. And by the way, new
today ice officers have surpassed their recruiting goals of ten thousand.
(46:23):
According to one Big Beautiful Bill, they've hired twelve thousand.
There's twelve thousand new ice officers on the streets of
the United States. And I want to underscore Blake's point
here about this the way that it was done. So
you go back to Obama was called the deporter in Chief.
Do you realize that eighty percent of those deportations were
done the old fashioned way? What does that mean? It
(46:44):
means that an illegal immigrant was arrested, apprehended on the
streets of his or her you know, invaded city. They
would go into jail, the local officials would process that person.
There would be an ICE detainer. They would hand that
person over to ICE safely, securely. There's no race in
the streets. There's no DHS, rammings, there's no none of
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
It's secure.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
The person has handcuffs on, they get put on a plane,
process put back in their country of origin. When sanctuary
cities and states refuse to cooperate with federal law enforcement,
this is the result. They have to go into the streets,
do raids, They have to go knock on doors, They
have to endanger the public in order to do the
public a good.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So this is completely Blake's point.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
The blood is on the hand of Jacob Fry, who's,
by the way, demanding that these ICE agents be removed
from a city, which is not gonna happen by the
way and you hear Tom home and saying we're gonna
double down. We're coming for California, We're coming for Illinois.
We're coming from New York next so look out. More
of this is coming is as it should be, and uh,
(47:47):
you know, just say a prayer for our brave men
and women of DHS and ICE as they are forced
to not work in cooperation behind closed doors in safety
but instead have to go out on the streets and commit,
you know, conduct raids on businesses and homes and that
sort of thing. Because this is completely on the head
and on the hands of local officials. It's absolutely infuriating. Blake,
(48:11):
we had a kind of related but there was a
House Oversight Committee hearing, the first of its kind. Some
explosive allegations were made in this hearing by Republicans in
the state of Minnesota that were saying they have tried
to conduct oversight and to deal with the fraud in Minnesota.
Speaker 25 (48:29):
We saw this one viral the other day that there's
in twenty eighteen, their Inspector General did a whole report,
or the staff there did a whole thing. It laid
out exactly how fraud happens. They say they have fake
groups that come in or associake groups. They have groups
of like these daycares that come in and say we're
interested in stopping fraud, but they're really trying to deflect
(48:50):
investigations away. They had a whistleblower explain this to them.
They said, we think half of all of our daycare
money may be going to fraud, if not more, and
then the Inspector General just buries it.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Well and get this, they are fabricating documents play cut
two sixty two.
Speaker 26 (49:06):
According to the non partisan Legislative Auditor, this is another
case of mismanagement of taxpayer money. But perhaps the most
explosive revelation is that managers within DHS, the Department of
Human Services, tried to cover their tracks by backdating and
creating new.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Documents backdating, so they're trying to cover their tracks. Other
testimony from this morning's hearing said that they were blacklisted,
that it was career suicide to call out fraud. The
depth of the rot seems to know no end here.
It's truly stunning, and I think we all knew this
was going on. We all knew that there was fraud,
(49:43):
we all knew that it was bloat. But it was
so amorphous and abstract, and now you're seeing in vivid
technicolor exactly how it works.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
And they get political.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Kickbacks, and they get promises for whole communities like the
Somalis to vote in block for them for reelection.
Speaker 17 (50:06):
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