THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 110 — Live at AmFest

The ThoughtCrime crew assembles on-stage live at AmFest to take audience questions, including:

 

-Which Star Wars films are good?

-What’s the Christian case for or against the death penalty?

-Should Arizona expand into Mexico?

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
My name is Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I run the largest pro American student organization in the country,
fighting for the future of our republic. My call is
to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most
important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna
end up miserable. But if the most important thing is
doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody.

(00:26):
You got to stop sending your kids to college. You
should get married as young as possible and have as
many kids as possible. Go start at turning point you
would say college chapter.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Go start attning point youould say high school chapter.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Go find out how your church can get involved.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Sign up and become an activist.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade,
most important decision I ever made in my life, and
I encourage you to do the same.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Here I am Lord, Use me.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
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Speaker 3 (01:10):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to THARWT Crime Live. Oh my goodness,
Oh my goodness, look at this. We got the whole
Motley crew. Thank you for being here, folks, seriously, thank
you for being here.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
We've got Blake and Andrew on their way here.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
So so we got we got Jack Pasobik here on
thought Crime, Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
I know it's I know it's Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
We usually do thal crime Thursday, so I hope you
won't mind if we're doing dark crime on Friday?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Is that alright with all of you?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Hell? Yeah, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
We got Cliff Maloney, you know Cliff from the Pachase.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
What's up Cliff?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Hello? Hello?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Then we got a crazy of course, the great Tyler Boyer.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
What's up, guys? How are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
And every everyone's favorite Mikey McCoy my gay. Now there
was there were rules. There's the rules about thought crime.
Now people, people don't realize this, but there are rules.
When we created this show, we said, there's there's one
rule above all rules. Anything goes on thought crime, all right,

(02:15):
no censorship, no question that is denied. There is no
topic that's not allowed to be discussed. That is how
thought crime works. But there's also another rule. No jackets
on thought crime. So I said when we were backstage,
just said, mikey Cliff, take them off, and.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
I threw mine off too. No suit jackets.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
So if Andrew Colvett comes out here wearing a jacket,
or if Blake Nef comes out here with what is
that his five dollars Macy Special?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Uh wait, do you not have a mic?

Speaker 5 (02:44):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Oh his mic is broken.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
That's okay, he doesn't have anything to say anyway that.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Uh no, we'll figure that out.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
And that that they got to take him off, by
the way, shout out, because we got two beautiful ladies
here in the front wearing thought i'm T shirts that
they made themselves.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Which is so amazing.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
But but Tyler, I'm pretty sure that's copyright infringement, right,
So now that's the thought crime. No, that's the thought crime. Look, look,
look we've we have good lawyers, so I don't know
it did say anything goes though, we did say that.
Look when we started this show, and Tyler, maybe you
could speak to this a little bit, because we started

(03:26):
this show with Charlie because we needed to find a
way to add to kind of talk about those subjects
and talk about those topics that didn't really fit into
a daily news cycle. They didn't really fit into just
whatever was going on on Twitter or something like that.
So so we said, let's do a show where it's
just a couple of the guys sitting around talking about

(03:49):
the issues, and we're gonna break all the rules.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, I mean that's where it started.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Was thought crime was developed as every day it's like
the hard is that Charlie was delivering and it was
exhausting to talk about it every single day, and we
just wanted a vacation.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
We wanted a vacation from all that, just to talk
about all the cultural things going on. So that's what
we're gonna do here today. Who's open for some topics?

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Oh we are?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
We just throwing to it. We're throwing to it all right, folks.
We got we got a lot of people here today.
So I say, we're just going for it now. As
Charlie would always say, disagreeeres to the front, because that
is the standard that Charlie has always said.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
So if you disagree with.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Something we ever said, and you know in fact, and
if anything that Charlie ever said, we'll come up here.
We'll speak for him if we can. You can come
up to the front. So guys, how about it?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
All right? How's it going, gentlemen? My name's Dino.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Talk right, talk right into it, talk right in.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Her name's Brady.

Speaker 7 (04:49):
His name, Yeah, And we have a controversial question for you.
We're actually stuck at an impasse ourselves, and we need
your help with this one.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
Brady, what's the best Star Wars movie?

Speaker 8 (05:00):
My favorite Star Wars movie is a New Hope, the original.
We're having a big debate, so we're curious. Way guys'
thoughts are. He's absolutely incorrect. It's Empire Strikes Back. By
the way, Oh okay, should.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
I just say that? Seems like it's a setup for me?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Right, yeah, let's go.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Star Wars is faking gay.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Sorry, I says star Crime. I'm so. I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Not only do I think it's fakeing gay, but it's
Star Wars is banned in my house.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
I don't let the kids watch it. And here's why.
Here's why because.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
When I see those Disney adults that are walking around
at Disneyland and Disney World, I'm telling you, those guys
give me creeper vibes like blippy. I don't want them
around my kids. I don't want my kids around that.
So we're we're anti Star Wars in the Posto house.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Yeah, but what's what's gear? Lord of the Rings or
Star Wars?

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I mean, so Tyler has this Wait, you said it
is or it isn't Lord of the Rings it is.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
We talked about this.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, yeah, so Tyler says Lord of the Rings is gay?
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Is Tyler right about that? Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Mikey. Here's some thoughts.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
I think the better questions what's the better trilogy? And
for all us young people, it's the prequels. But uh,
Rogue one is the greatest Star Wars movie and it's
not faking gay. I think you thinking Star Wars is
faking gay is faking gay? No, back to the subject matter,

(06:25):
Return of the Jedi is the best Star Wars film.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
And bold, bold look Return of the.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Jedi, I will know, I can, I can steal man
this and I do want to move topics.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
I don't want to do all Star Wars.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
But Return Return of the Jedi is a great movie
because it shows the redemption arc, and it shows a
biblical redemption arc whereby d when Darth Vader goes and
atones for what he's done and seeks redemption through his son.
His son leads him on the path from evil to goodness.

(07:01):
That's the original story of Star Wars.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
But then George.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Lucas got involved, and then Disney got involved, and.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
I'm sorry, they messed Kennedy got involved.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
They messed it all up, and they made it fake
and gay, just like Netflix.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
So there's there's a lot of people I could do this.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
I'll say now, I'm gonna say this too. All the
New movies they jacked this entire thing up. They totally
screwed up snoke and everything else. The worst that is
the worst part of it. So it's a big da film.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Now, it's all di it's all no.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I got in trouble for saying this on Twitter in
twenty fifteen. Fine, I'm just gonna say it's talk crime, right,
you want to talk about how it's de I so
go look at the Disney Star Wars movies. All right,
All the bad guys are straight white men. Every single
bad guy in the Disney Star Wars movies is a
straight white man. I said this on twenty fifteen. I

(07:55):
got ripped on and all of the what do you
call them the it's not the it's like the Resistance
Alliance or whatever.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
All of them.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
It's like, you know, it's like the diversity quota at
the United Nations or something.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Are the good guys?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
And I'm sorry, but it's very clear what you're doing,
because you're trying to paint a target on the back
of straight white men in this country.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
And we're sick of it, and Charlie was sick of it,
and we're.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Done with it. Thank you all. Thank you, Dino Brady.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
That was a great question.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
But Snooke did kind of look like Joe Biden a
little bit, a little bit a little bit, so I mean,
you gotta give him that.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Now, you got to top the Star Wars question.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Thank you so much for being here today. My name
is Blakely. I'm thirteen years old. Charlie's death inspired my
faith and my interest on growing academically on my own.
Can you share with me how much he read and
how he retained the information he learned.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, he read all the time. But actually, something else
Charlie did is, especially.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
On long flights, he would have his laptop open and
he would be arguing with chat ChiPT for like five hours,
and and he was like, I would say, what are
you doing, Charlie. He's like, I'm practicing for the campus tours.
And he would he would tell chapter to GPT, you know,
pretend to be a purple hair lib at Berkeley. Let's argue, no,

(09:16):
but he read a ton and he actually.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
There's we should see if we should get those chat
logs or something.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
We should work on them.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
We should try to figure out how to get them.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
That'd be good at finding logs.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Sam Altman, Sam Altman, if you're there, what are you
at your call logs?

Speaker 5 (09:28):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, we got Mike. Don't worry, folks, We
checked out Mikey's call logs.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
He's clean.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
No calls to Egypt, no calls to Macade, no calls
to France. He's clean, folks, He's clean. He read a
lot though.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Reading was super important, and so we have a reading
list online too of what Charlie liked.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, one of the how did he retain that, like
what he read or what he learned?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
How oh, okay, a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Charlie didn't necessarily have a photographic memory too, by the way, So.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
He would just read a lot and he took notes
all the time.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Everywhere he went he had a notebook with him, and like,
if he was on this stage right now, he would
be writing down stuff that he liked. He would start it,
circle it. That was the best way for him to
retain information.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
I think all throughout Charlie's life and everything that I
ever watched, he.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Wrote down and less and less and less.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
And he would cross through things every time, big list person.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
So I think one of the best speeches at the memorial,
which goes to reading, was a doctor Larry Arne, and
he talked about when Charlie went to him and he
quizzed him and at one point Charlie kind of you
know pros and he turned to him and said, what
do I do? And I just think that doctor Arrange's
response was pretty prophetic, where he was like, you gotta read,

(10:49):
and he gave him, you know, a bunch of things
to start with the classics and then go into this.
But I do I think reading is such a it's
so easy to make the excuses.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
It's like, no, we got a double down. You can't
fit make it till you make it. That's what the
left does.

Speaker 9 (11:02):
We have to have a true belief in what we're reading,
and you have to dive deep to do that.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
So that was a great question.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Keep it up. Read a lot.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah, give it up for Cliff Maloney. Cliff, give everyone
your coordinates.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
By the way, on ex At Maloney, love y'all, Doors
Win Wars, Doors Win Wars. The Cliffs got a book
coming out soon that's going to be absolutely fantastic. You
gotta check it out. Actually, ladies and gentlemen, do you
know man by the name of Blake nef.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Leave it open?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Harrol I wanted to leave one. Yeah, cold on.

Speaker 10 (11:40):
I was told you were saying mean things about my jacket.
I heard you when I walked in. I didn't say
anything mean about the jacket. Did you guys hear saying
me say anything mean about the jacket?

Speaker 11 (11:49):
No?

Speaker 4 (11:50):
See, no, no I heard it.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
I heard it.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
No.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
No, it's fake news trying to deny people to jacket.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
It was Mikey.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
It was Mikey. So so I've got a mic problem.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Now, Oh, everybody's got a Mikey problem. Mikey.

Speaker 10 (12:03):
No, No, hold on, we're we're we're embracing confrontation at
this amfest. Mikey apologize to the jacket.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
No, I literally take you shopping because you have a
bad closet, Blake. I'm not apologizing to you.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, Mikey's he gave you all.

Speaker 10 (12:20):
The closets too. Mister Lord of the Rings is gay guy.
Everyone's folks. I did want to leave.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
We had it, We had the seat here, but I
wanted to make sure that we left this seat right
here for the co host who isn't on isn't with
us today. Charlie Kirk is on assignment right now, so
he's not being able to join us.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
He's on assignment with God. Let's get to our next question.

Speaker 12 (12:46):
Hi, guys, my name's Liam.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm all the way here from Florida.

Speaker 12 (12:50):
So I kind of linked up with Jack's brother before
this and he kind of encouraged me to ask you guys,
So thank you to him for that. I come from
military family. My grandfather was in the Vietnam Wars a marine.
I was an Operation Desert Storm as a marine. So
sometimes I struggle with the thought of imperialism, and I
think that sometimes we should be the world police because

(13:11):
a lot of people do really bad things. But then
also sometimes I think that we should let others settle
their disputes on their own and kind of save our
tax money for domestic problems. I just want to know
what your guys thoughts on are on that and what
your advice is for me.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
I have an immediate imperial thought.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
The first imperial thought that I have is that Arizona
should own a lot more of.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Mexico and specifically Rocky Point.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
So we've we've actually talked about this on the show before.
So people don't realize that America won the Mexican American
War the United States one, and originally the border between
the US and Mexico was much much different. Ladies and gentlemen,
did you know that Charlie Kirk, like the rest of us, agreed.
I think Arizona should have a beach front. You know

(13:57):
what I'm saying. You think Arizona deserves to.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Be each who hears from Arizona.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
Why don't we have a beach No, they just let
the line that goes right across the Rocky Point. That
place would be so much nicer. I mean, it's totally ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Mike.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
Yeah, Mexico can have Tucson and we get Rocky Point. Yeah,
we trade.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
What do we think we do? We trade South Tucson.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
And we get no. I want to Let's let's keep going.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
I think we should take over all Baja We could.
We could conquer Baja California a day. Well, let me
hear one day, let me take everyone here bearing arms,
could go take over Baja California.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Right now, I.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Feel like literally we could take all of like thrown
in jail.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Pretty much like all the guys at amfest, I think
we already taking all of Baja California.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
What do you think, guys? Should we do it?

Speaker 6 (14:54):
So, in all seriousness, it's a very serious question. So, yes,
there's some imperialism that's great, getting Mexico, Southern Caloria, uh,
Baja California.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
You're talking about something that's directly in America's interest.

Speaker 6 (15:08):
Yeah, when it when it when it benefits America, we
need to be imperialistic. When it doesn't benefit America, we
need to get the heck out right, So like that's kind.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Of the my answer, My answered on all of that
is America first.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
I am interested to see though, by raise of hand,
who in the room is America first in America only?
And who in the room is America first but not
America only?

Speaker 4 (15:34):
All Right?

Speaker 6 (15:34):
America first and America only. Raise your hand, America first
and not just America only.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
All right, Wow, it's quite the sweet best split. It
was like fifty to fifty split. No, I like that.
And look, you get in a giant pit and kill
each other.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Yes, yes, that's right. No, the pit is out back.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
So look, when it comes down to it, I think
one of the reasons that Trump won in the first
place is this idea that America had become, had suffered
what many historic empires, as Blake knows, imperial overreach and
getting involved in every single dispute around the country or
excuse me, around the world is not what our founding
fathers instituted America as a limited republic to be able

(16:18):
to do. It was made for the benefit of the
American people, for our prosperity, for our for their their
posterity as well. And so no, that doesn't mean that
we have to get involved in every dispute, whether it's Asia,
whether it's South America, or yes, even the Middle East.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
It's some things just aren't our job.

Speaker 13 (16:38):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 12 (16:39):
I wanted to add just one more expansion on that,
and then I kind of had your brother asked me
a question in return, so what do we like where
do we draw the line? Right like in today, I
know President Trump's doing a great job trying to hold
other countries accountable when we're supplying them with guns and
stuff for war and military supplies. Where do you draw

(17:00):
the line for countries that sort of take advantage of us? Like,
for instance, you could say Ukraine, where we give them
our guns and then write in return they take them
and sell them.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
No.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
When I was in Ukraine in twenty twenty two, within
a couple hours of traveling to Leviv right after the
war started, I even met people who were selling American
weapons right there in Kiev. And I was at this
place and with some of the resistance guys and they're saying, hey,
if you give us some money, we can give you
some We can give you some ars and we'll send it.
And turns out that he had actually like sold to

(17:32):
promise someone that he could get them ar's and he
was trying to get me to pay for it because
he had already spent the money. Totally corrupt, just insane
levels of corruption that were going on. Yeah I know, right, yeah,
like no, seriously, And Charlie got really mad because I
went to Ukraine and didn't tell him I was going
and he was like, what do you mean you were
in Ukraine all week? Because like, don't worry about it, dude,
I'm fine. And look where do we draw the line.

(17:55):
We draw the line at saying it is stupid for
the United States of America to back a losing war
and a losing proposition, and it gets to the point
where we need to put peace first and we need
to solve our disputes with talk, with diplomacy, and yes
maybe and definitely leverage, but not with warfare.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
Guys got buss Well that brings up this idea and
this probably would be a fight with this guy. Do
do we like the UN or do we hate the UIN?
Because I want to get out of the UN?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
It makes no sense.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
We can totally take an advantage of by the UN
and the decisions that are made by the UN.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I say take it over, So I'm gonna take over
the building by forst sentence Seal Team six.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Let's get the next question.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Baja California first or the UN Baha storm the cap.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
My name is Daniel.

Speaker 14 (18:54):
I'm from Jacksonville, Florida and My question is related to immigration.
There's been a lot of talk about such as the
Heartseller Act from nineteen sixty five and just a lot
of discussion over it. Trump had even said he believes
that we should bring more Scandinavians in as someone who
does actually have family from Sweden, my uncle who's an
American but has lived in Sweden for twenty years and

(19:15):
as a family is actually visiting.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
And the thing that gets.

Speaker 14 (19:20):
Me is that Europe today is let's just say, not
culturally or politically really similar to America, and Europeans, like
culturally are very different. Just as an example, like as
poll had showed that like ninety percent of Scandinavians opposed

(19:40):
Donald Trump and think Kamala Harris would have been a
better president. How do we go about immigration reform to
ensure that we bring in immigrants that will actually benefit
the country and will keep the country America first and
culturally conservative long term, even in places that might be
aesthetically nice such as Sweden in Denmark and these other places,

(20:01):
but culturally are like to the left of Vermont.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
No, that's a great question, because there's a lot of
foreign countries that are hostile to America. We don't have
We don't have a serious vetting system in our country.
And so I think the real answer is, what's the
best way to do. Shut down immigration until we can
figure out what the hell is going on at our borders.
We have so many migrants in this country. We have

(20:27):
tens of millions that are here that came in under
Biden that were not.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Vetted at all.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Some of them, by the way, who came out of
Kabul that walk up to our soldiers and shoot them
in the head right outside of the White House. You
got this guy at Brown University who was on a
green card and apparently just went on a killing spree
to settle an old grudge. It seems like or I mean,
we don't really know exactly what happened there, but it's
it's it's it's clearly something that's causing a major problem

(20:53):
in our country. And we have way too many people
that should not be here period. And what eighteen built
the Somalis in Minnesota. You guys heard this. The Somalis
in Minnesota. They up, they came up with the number.
I believe the US Attorney just put it out yesterday.
Eighteen billion dollars scammed from this that's just on the
state level in Minnesota. Eighteen billion dollars. Ladies and gentlemen,

(21:17):
they gotta go, They just gotta go. You gotta send
them back. Remigration, reverse migration.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
This is the way.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
And once we get a handle, once we get a
handle on the people are here and the people who
shouldn't be here, then we can talk about whether or
not we want to reopen that aperture.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
I don't know, you guys want to weigh in.

Speaker 10 (21:37):
Oh yeah, I mean I'm literally doing the math on
my phone here because that's what I do, because I'm
a crazy person.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Ladies and gentlemen, Blake Neff uses a calculator just so
you know.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yeah what, So don't feel better?

Speaker 10 (21:49):
So eighteen billion divided by about eighty thousand, right, how
many of there are? That's two hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars per person.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars per person of
the Somalians in Minnesota. And look, folks, when you here's
what happens when you come from a culture that doesn't
see anything wrong with scamming, with stealing, with lying, they
will go to the government and claim that all of
their children have autism and then take every single dollar
that's meant for actual special needs kids, and they will

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pocket it and will not feel bad about it at all.
They will congratulate each other on how smart they were
to builk the US system and use our good nature
against us, and every single one of them who did
that should be arrested and deported immediately.

Speaker 10 (22:34):
Or they'll fake marry their brother so they can get
a nicer apartment.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Some of them even marry their own brothers to sneak
into the country. I don't know if anyone's ever heard
of any name some of them would.

Speaker 10 (22:46):
Even do that and then run for Congress, run for Congress,
speeches in a non English language about dedicating their congressional
career to the well being of a country that is
not America.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Gosh, I just I can't ypathetically hypothetically hypothetically, folks. The
system is completely out of control, and we we I
don't want to talk. The only immigration reform that we
need to have is reforming the direction of the immigration
from in to out.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
Thank you so much, we need so you're saying we
need a total moratorium on people marrying their brothers, and
they're running from Congress.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yes, yes, brother marriage.

Speaker 15 (23:26):
Jack is calling for a moratorium on all brother marriage,
brother marriage, sister marriage, cousin marriage, second cousin marriage, third
cousin marriage, clan marriage, trying marriage.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
I'm a child marriage. I'm against it all, folks.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
The point is you only get this stuff when you
let crazy people into this crime country.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
And that woman is a crazy person. They're not They're
not like that, right. Why are we even having these
What are we even doing here?

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Speaker 1 (24:58):
My name is Corby.

Speaker 17 (24:59):
I I am a conservative Christian mother of eight.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Let's go, all right, let's go eight more kids, more kids,
more kids, more kids, more kids.

Speaker 17 (25:13):
Unfortunately that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
But grandkids, kids, grandkids, grandkids.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
We're getting there.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
We're getting there anyways.

Speaker 17 (25:23):
Unfortunately, I live in the blue state of Washington, and
being here has been very invigorating. And it's found it's
like I found like a home. Like I can wear
my hat, I can wear my shirt. You know, people
say nice shirt, nice hat, praise God, and it's wonderful.

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But I also have friends that are not Christians. And
although I don't agree with everything, I do, they're still
loving parts of my life. Where can those friends fit
into this organization and where do they find their part here?
And I also have a question about like the separation

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of church and state, Like I understand that this is
like a private entity, but it's also very political. And
although I agree with it and it's my home, you know,
where do you draw the line? And especially for the
people that aren't of the Christian faith.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Tyler, you want to take the first part.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I'll say this at turning point.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
What's a wonderful thing is that you can be pro
a lot of things and not have to like rip
each other's heads off about disagreements all the time.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
The vast majority of people.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
I think this has been demonstrated and discussed a lot,
and Charlie said this all the time. Is that you know,
America was founded as a Christian nation, that we have
Christian principles that enabled this country to operate in a
way that is accepting and loving of other people who
don't necessarily always agree with our faith or what we are,

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what we stand for. But the moment you start to
walk away from that is the moment that things start
to fall apart and people start marrying their brothers to
get citizenship, and then you have them run forgot you
see what I'm saying. So we just went we just
covered that pretty quickly. So you have a situation in
America where you can be pro your Christian beliefs and
faith and not have to run away from that. And

(27:28):
that's the America that was that was founded, that that
was understood, that we that the founders really had intended,
and and not have to be at the throats of
other people who disagree, but lead by example and build
a community that's going to be welcoming for everyone. And
I think that's what we've got here is a really
welcoming community where I think everybody, no matter what your faith,
religious background, you come in and hopefully you're having a

(27:50):
great time here in America fest And I think that
that's what that's what that's the environment you can create
that really, uh, you know, kind of allow for the
original intent that the founders had to continue. The opposite
of that, I would say is that you can look
at some examples that are really aren't working. In Europe's

(28:11):
a really good example of this, where there's so much
bending the need to other people's cultures and other people's
ideas that what's happened is that you don't have any
identity any longer, and violence ensues, and anger and animosity ensue,
and that's really a lot of what we're seeing across Europe.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And you look at it to you mentioned the separation
to church and state. But here's something I found that's
so interesting about this. Now, obviously that's not in our constitution,
that's not found in our founding documents. The First Amendment,
the Protection of Religion in enshrined in the First Amendment
was for the protection of the exercise of religion, so
that the government couldn't stop you from exercising your religion,
and that we would not have a Church of America

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the way that the Church of England had the Church
of England, which now the Anglican Church or the Pistopolian
Church in America. However, I would pause it that after
the nineteen sixties and the counter cultural or the cultural
revolution took place in America, the sexual Revolution, the atheist revolution,
progressivism took hold. Isn't it interesting that there's only one

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religion that we're.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Told is not allowed in the public square.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
We're told that the only religion that isn't allowed is
the religion of Jesus Christ, the Ten Commandments, displays of
the Cross, Nativity scenes in public, every other religion. If
it was Islam, they would say, oh no, no, no,
that's intolerance. But if it's Christianity, they say, get rid
of it, get it out of the public square. And
I'm gonna tell you something, if you're gonna be a

(29:37):
Christian in today's America, you must be a public Christian.
We have to return Christianity to the public square. Charlie
Cook served for that, and he was exactly right.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
Hey Jack, Jack, that's the Happy Holidays manifesto, Right boo.
You don't have to mitigate your own faith for someone
else to feel like their faith is is elevated.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Everybody here can practice their faith to the maximum capacity,
and they should.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Everyone should do that.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
And you know, that's what America is all about, is
everyone can go zero to sixty on their own faith.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
That doesn't mean that you have to mitigate yours. And
that's what the left one is. The left ones you
to shut up. Yeah, And I'll add.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
To the point on separation of church and state. If
the Gospel in Christianity is objective truth and it's the
highest hierarchy of truth. You cannot separate truth from the
state or anarchy, and lies and darkness will then take.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Over where truth is the absence of it.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
And so in a world of lies, in darkness, the
truth is often times not something that's popular. And so
as Christians, we have a mandate and an obligation to
bring that truth in that light into the darkest places
in our nation, in our world, and it's oftentimes going
to be really unpopular, really uncomfortable. And I mean in

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Charlie's case, he was literally bringing the truth and the
gospel to the darkest places, which is oftentimes college campuses,
UC Davis, Berkeley, and so we have an obligation we
have to fulfill it.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, I mean, gut, thank you.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Government is the darkness, Mary, Chris.

Speaker 6 (31:20):
College campuses are the reflection of the darkest places in America.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Hi, I'm eli. I have two questions.

Speaker 18 (31:28):
One is, yesterday somebody brought up the attack on the
USS liberty and what are your opinions on that?

Speaker 1 (31:34):
And then my.

Speaker 18 (31:35):
Next question is how are Erica and our kids doing
with Charlie.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Sure, So, as as a Navy veteran.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
You know, I'll talk about the USS Liberty and obviously
it's you know, it's something that we as Navy veterans,
as anyone who serves in the Navy, you learn about,
you study, and you realize that we live in a
serious world, and it's something that a lot of people
in the Navy feel that we never really got full
accountability for. Still have a lot of questions about the

(32:02):
Navy investigation that was done and the official statements that
came out. A lot of people said, you know, just
doesn't feel like it's good enough when you have a
naval a ship with flying the US flag that's being
attacked by a country that you are.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Nominally supposed to believe is an ally.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
But one interesting piece on this that I've also heard
from Roger Stone goes like this, So if you look
at it the blake, when was the Gulf of Tonkin
around I think it was sixty three sixty four, Yeah,
sixty three sixty four was Gulf of Tonkin. Then you
have USS Liberty, which comes in sixty seven. And so
the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a situation where the

(32:40):
president at the time LBJ used this sort of like
fake poax to get the United States involved in the
Ward Vietnam by claiming a ship had been attacked. Roger
Stone says that he's got evidence that it was LBJ
was trying to do the exact same thing with the
USS Liberty to try to get the US involved in
that war as well, to turn around and claim that

(33:02):
it wasn't Israel that attacked, but that it was Egypt
that attacked. So I think that's an interesting case. That's
an interesting case study, and it's something that I'd certainly
like to look in a lot more myself.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
You mentioned Erica and the kids.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
You know, I talked to Erica pretty regularly, and she's
she's so strong, She's so incredibly strong, and I don't
think I don't think this amfest would have happened without Erica.
I don't think it would happen without her strength and
her being there as that central cornerstone, new cornerstone for
the organization, the one that Charlie chose himself.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
I don't know, Mike, if you want to speak on that.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Yeah, I mean I was talking with Justin from our
team at Turning Point, USA the other day and we
were both like, we're so exhausted. It's it's been crazy.
And then we were like, how is Erica still doing this?
And it's it's honestly amazing what she's able to pull off, Guys,
this event, this coalition, the glue that Charlie was, Erica

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has fulfilled that, the absence that Charlie left behind, all
while doing a million things, being attacked on social media,
whatever it is. She is like literally anti fragile, like
she is the You attack her and she gets stronger,
and it's it's beautiful. She's she's a representation of what

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young women and women in general should just strive to be.
And to the USS liberty thing. I'll just say this
as a young person, Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I I wish.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
More people in the conservative movement wouldn't just wouldn't lie
about what happened that day. I think it's it was
a US ship. They were flying a US flag. There
is markings all over Israel knew it was the US
and they still attacked. And you can say that and
still be pro Israel. But you can say a lot

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of time has passed, reparations were paid. But why do
we have to lie about it as a movement. Just
tell the truth. That's it's simple.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
So, like I said, guys, any question was that good?
Thank you very much. Merry Christmas. Who's next?

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Merry Christmas kid?

Speaker 13 (35:09):
Hello, thrilled to be here. My name's j I'm Gray
hack Cal I'm from Spokane, Washington. I'm Catholic.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I'm all right. That's the good side of Washington. Wait,
that's the that's the red side of Washington. Well that's
a little purple. But yeah, we're well spoke. Greater Idaho.
That's what we want to make, right, I'm right next
to Idaho.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
I say, new state, break it all.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
That's what I'm saying. They want the oh new state.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
No new state.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
See look all right, all right, I'm gonna step on this.
This is my thought crime tangent.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
All right.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
So people say, should should the conservative parts of blue
states break off? Like California's got conservative parts, Oregon, Washington? Uh, yeah,
like western Maryland? Should they break off and join red states?
I say no, don't join red states. Form your own states,
because then you get for every single state you to
governor and two red senators or added to the United States.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Senate two more too more.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
Yeah, So we should be so we need a new
state between eastern Oregon eastern Washington can create a former
new state.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
State of Jefferson right there.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
Yeah, you'd be down for that, right anybody, New York, Yeah,
Northern California, Northern California, we can turn that thing into Jefferson.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
It'll be so cool.

Speaker 10 (36:28):
I don't think you guys are going to like what
happens if Trump learns about the fact that the annexation
treaty with Texas includes the right for it to divide
itself into five additional states without any approval from the
Texas isn't allowed to.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Anyway.

Speaker 13 (36:43):
My question for you today, First of all, I just
wanted to make a comment. Charlie obviously picked all of
you for a reason. You formed amazing friendships, business relationships,
and you're all godly men with families, and.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
This is what needs to go forward.

Speaker 13 (37:01):
You have made being masculine really important and for our boys,
that is that's what makes society what.

Speaker 11 (37:09):
It should be.

Speaker 13 (37:11):
My question, first of all, I am a Republican women's
president of an organization of over one hundred part of
sixty six thousand women nationally that are part of the
National Federation. We are looking and this isn't just my club.
We want to know who is going to be the
voice of young women or the face of young women

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coming forward.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
And who do you.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Think you're looking at him right here? It's Blake k Neff.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
He's got the hair for it.

Speaker 19 (37:42):
Really.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Ah, he's been doing pushups all week.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
I mean, this is piggybacking on the commentary that we
just made a lot of a lot of us recognize
that Charlie Kirk came and he brought the young men
into the fold. Right Erica Kirk is here to bring
the young women over over the side. And this is
this is important because we love we love our women
at the National Federation for Republican Women.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
You do incredible work.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
But what we've noticed at turning point is when you
start to change the dialogue with young people, it impacts upwards.
So and this happens a lot like I see myself
now I've got a teenager, and when he's doing stuff,
I start going, oh, that's cool. Now I guess I
have to change what I listen to you and how
I talk and things like that.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
You start us with being cool. You start to you
start to.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Follow what younger people do kind of abnormally because it's
trendy and it's cool, and that's what we see on TV,
and that's what's interesting and in media. The conservative movement
has struggled for many, many years prior to turning point
coming around because there just wasn't as much of a
youth focus. What I love about this is we've got
people of all ages that are here, but like, this

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is a cool party where people are feeling like, like
the conservative movements alive and well and and maybe a
little bit cooler than it was ten years ago. And
that's really important for young men. But that's also really
really critical for young women that feel sometimes excluded in
the conservative movement because things just don't feel cool. And
when you look at Erica Kirk, she's a great example

(39:16):
of everything that's cool being a mom, you know, standing
up and being bold still on conservative principles, you know,
being able to wear a dress, not having to walk
around in a pants suit like the left does. That's
no hat on pantsuits. If you're wearing one, you know,
it don't start. Yeah, I start that Erica pantsuit. It
was a glittery pantsuit.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
It was a lot. It was a very glittery pantsuit.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
But to Tyler's point, for the first time in America
Fest history, there are more women at this event than men.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
And that's that's nothing that men.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
That's just saying the Erica Kirk effect is real and
young women and women in general are listening to the
because every conservative event has always been like there's like
it's it's a really bad ratio for girls and they
don't show up. Now there's actually more girls here than guys.
That's a you know, there's no ladies, ladies, find your go,

(40:14):
find your life partner, ladies.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Blake is eligible.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
No, it's it's true though there's there's been there have
been a lot of turning point couples and turning point marriages,
and we're even getting to the era where we're seeing
like turning point babies that have come about from those couples.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Who's got a baby in the crowd? Lift it up?

Speaker 3 (40:35):
We have any babies, any kids, any parents brought their
kids here? I see a couple, a couple of.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Hands right back. There, there's one. There, there's there's oh
there she is there she is.

Speaker 15 (40:43):
Hey Christmas, what's on the bottom.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Look, we're raising the right folks, We're raising them right.
Charlie would have loved this Charlie. And Charlie does love
this because he's looking down, he's seeing it, he's seeing
the baby boom, he's seeing it happening.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
That's what it's all about.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
So you asked about young men, and I'll close on
this topic with this, is that I give a speech
recently in New York City where Zora Mandami is about
to become.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
The mayor in two weeks.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
I know, right, And I said, you know what struck
me though, is that Zora Mandami and Charlie Kirk are
almost the same age. Actually, he's thirty four and Charlie
would have been thirty two right now. And you look
at the lives they've led and they're completely different. One
is a whiny, angry, parasitic, just nutjob who thinks that

(41:35):
you should tear people down and tear systems down, take
from others and give to yourself kind of guy. And
that's the system that he's offering to young men. And
he's a bad rapper, and he's a very bad rapper.
And you look at what Charlie offered. You look at
what Charlie offered.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
To young men.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Young men, if you want to find in Erica, then
you've got to be at Charlie. And to young women,
if you want to find a Charlie, you gotta be
in Erica, all right. And that's the examples that we
should be using to push forward to say you don't
have to be bitter and angry and grow through life.
And by the way, young white men in this country

(42:16):
do have a lot of reason to be upset because
the entire system is against them and we are going
to be fighting that tooth and nail. But I promise
you there is a system that shows you a way
forward that you can get married, you can have kids,
you put God at the center, and you don't need
the lives of Marxism that are pushed by the likes
of Zora Mandami.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Thank you, keep it up, Hey everybody.

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Speaker 1 (43:47):
Good afternoon. My name is Dave Guwaitio.

Speaker 11 (43:48):
I'm an active sworn police officer right here in Arizona.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Give it up for our law enforcement.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Thank you, Thank you. We love our police. Thank you.
I know you do, Tyler, I know you do.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
More importantly, I'm a Christian.

Speaker 11 (44:04):
I'm also an unabashed conservative, and I tell you a
lot of a lot of swarm police officers won't talk politics.
I will because the left has attempted to systematically destroy
law enforcement in this country. So if you're a cop,
you got to get off of the couch. You gotta
get you gotta get plugged in. Jack, I want to
thank you for continuing to shine light the Derek Chauvin

(44:29):
debacle on what happened to him. From day one, you
called it out, you said, this is going to be
a sham trial, and we're starting to find out as
the facts come out more and more you were correct.
You've got leftist politicians collaborating with Minneapolis politicians to throw police.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Under the bush. You know, you hear the narrative, the
knee on the neck.

Speaker 11 (44:51):
We're finding out that their own witness has confirmed the
knee wasn't even on the neck.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
He was on the shoulder.

Speaker 11 (44:56):
So Jack, my question to you is, you know, based
on your analysis, what are the next steps? What can
we do to continue to focus on that situation.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
I thank you for saying that, ladies and gentlemen, can
we give it up for Derek Chauvin, who is a.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Political prisoner in this country right now?

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Oh, we've come a long way We've come a long
way from learning that just because the media tells us
something about a shocking video does not mean that it's true.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
And that's what Charlie always stood on.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
He stood on business, he stood on truth, and he said,
we must have discernment. We must have discernment and not
accept what the media sends us because we know and
we've learned now it's all lies now web the Minneapolis Police,
she's exactly right. When they came out, they had the
training officer right. She lied on the stand and said

(45:50):
that it was not an approved tactic that she had trained.
They pulled out the manual and they said the tactic
was in there. But then what happened. The judge didn't
even allow that manual to be shown to the jury
in Derek Chauvin's trial. That is a sham. That is
not justice. What was done there was a miscarriage of justice.
I believe that Derek Chauvin was wrongfully convicted. And there's

(46:12):
now and it's not just me, there's now over fifty
current and former Minneapolis police officers that have come forward
and stated that that was an approved hold by the
Minneapolis Police Department. They all lied because they wanted to
use Derek Chauvin as a scapegoat for the fact that
the that the officials of Minnesota like Jacob Frye and

(46:33):
Governor Tim Walls and Attorney General what's his name, Keith Ellison. Yeah,
with his Antifa book, that Keith Ellison allowed the entire
city of Minneapolis to burn down on their watch. And
we are not going to drop this case. We're going
to fight for justice for Derek Chauvin.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Hey, they robbed the cheesecake factory.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
They bombed the cheesecake factory. Seriously, they burned down the
third Precinct. So to answer to your question, a lot
of people have said, does Derek Chauvin deserve a federal pardon?

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Now? Does he deserve one?

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yes, However, I want to pause on that because I've
spoken to some people that know the legal team there
and they said they're not actually asking for a pardon
right now.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
And here's why.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Because he's in federal prison right now and they're worried
that if they put him back in the state prison
where he was before, that they're gonna kill him, that
that's gonna be a death sentence. So she's saying that
Minnesota will treat him worse than the federal prison. And
that's exactly what I was hearing as well from Alpha

(47:41):
News and some of the people that have been working
on the story directly, and go shout out to Alpha News.
By the way, the incredible Liz Colin. Just go follow her.
She's amazing documentaries, books on this, all the breaking news.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
It's all her. That's I don't know anything. She's the
one who just tells me.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
But so I think the current fight right now is
that we have to point out that that trial was
a miscarriage of justice that and essentially get that declared.
Nolan Voyd, Derek Schouvin deserves a new trial. It deserves
a new trial.

Speaker 11 (48:09):
Briefly, two more things. My wife is an attendance Carrie.
She's a huge fan Jack and you have a shout
out to my wife, Carrie h And also can I
can I promote our local law enforcement Twitter account?

Speaker 15 (48:21):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Hey, back to blue. We love our cops. Mery Christmas, guys,
Mek Christmas, carry thank you, great question.

Speaker 11 (48:27):
Well Hacklendop twelve, thank you guys, and everybody everybody that's
here needs to hear this right now.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
If you have family members, just like David here. We
need every police officer to step up and be a
vocal conservative.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
They should.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
A lot of these guys serve in deep blue territory
and so they feel like they can't talk. We as
citizens have to support our police so vocally so they
can get involved and say, you know, enough is enough.
We can't have insane leftist politics enter all of these
suburban cities.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yeah, and if there's a war on police, then what's
gonna happen. Then you're gonna have police officers that don't
want to go into those dangerous situations when nine to
one one is called. So when I say I support
Derek Chauvin, that's not just because of Derek Chauvin as
a person. That's because that is supporting me and my
family so that we're ever in trouble and we need
to call a police officer that they know that they're

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walking into a situation where the society, where the laws,
where the people have their back.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
Well and jack suburban cities right now are getting the
Sultan with George Soros money to try to replace mayors
and city council members who are defunding police across the country.
This is happening in every suburban city that you think
is Republican, most of your cities that you live in.

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Who here lives in a suburban area?

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Raise your hand? Who here is is in a rural area.

Speaker 6 (49:56):
The rural and suburban areas across America that have higher
per capita, that have increasing you have homes being built.
They're already targeting you, trying to take out your city
council members. Replace them with squishy looking, rhino looking real
Democrats that are acting like that, are claiming to be Republicans,

(50:17):
and their whole goal is to defund the police.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
You gotta stop it. You got to you gotta get.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
About This is why at Turning Point actually talk about this.
In swing states, particularly places like here in Arizona. You
have to know who your city council members are. You
have to hold these people accountable and yank them out
of office if they're not. Number one priorities is defending
you and defending your home.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
That's why you gotta get active, folks, just like Charlie wanted.
You gotta get active. Be the mayor of your territory.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Sir, Hi, I'm Sean White.

Speaker 20 (50:47):
I'm a part of the Turning Point executive board at
James Madison University. I know I've got some other executive.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Members for it out here somewhere.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Congrats love the drip.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
By the way, thanks got a crisis king, He's got
a Jesus wand I love I love it.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
So.

Speaker 20 (51:04):
I know a lot of my friends and a lot
of Christians have differing viewpoints on the death penalty. So
why should I as a Christian support and how do
we justify the death penalty in the taking of a
human life.

Speaker 10 (51:16):
I think it's a valid debate, and I think a
lot of us have gone back and forth. I know
Charlie went back and forth on it. I've gone back
and forth on it myself. And it's understandable. As Christians,
we are supposed to embrace mercy. We are supposed to
forgive those who persecute us, and the death penalty seems
greatly in tension with that. But it also says in

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the Bible that those who hold power, they wield the
sword for a purpose, and they should wield it justly.
When when Jesus meets with the Roman soldiers and he
tells them what to do, he doesn't say, don't enforce
the law, don't kill people. He says, don't oppress people,
don't extort them, be content with your wages. And what

(51:58):
we have to recognize is that there is a differentference
that when the state, when the government enforces its laws,
it is not acting as an individual seeking vengeance.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
It is not acting It is not enacting revenge.

Speaker 10 (52:10):
It is enacting justice as in the place of a king, essentially,
and one aspect of justice may actually have to be
to use lethal force on someone who is a sufficiently
deadly or destructive cancer on a society. And I think
we can recognize that in the case we're all thinking

(52:33):
about right now, that if we have something like political
assassinations in our country, people who would destroy our country
by destroying people they disagree with, it's completely fair for
the government to look at that and say that act
is so heinous, so unacceptable, that anyone who commits it
will be torn out of our society like the cancer

(52:54):
that they are, before they infect the rest of it,
before they destroy our society. And I think that's a
completely just take on the most heinous crimes in our society.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
It is, and Charlie himself famously I'll paraphrase it, but
Charlie said, and I post this every once in a while,
that the death penalty isn't pro death, it's actually pro
life because it values the life of the victim. It
values the life of the victim, and it shows that
that person's life had value. It shows that society believes

(53:28):
that that person's life had value. And I personally believe
that Charlie Kirk's.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Life had value.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
And I also believe that there is a debt that
needs to be paid, not just for Charlie, but for Erica,
for the children, for every single minute and moment that
was torn and stolen from them, their entire lives, who
are not going to be having their dad home for
this Christmas or any Christmas ever again. And to Blake's

(53:58):
point as well, commit a political assassination and kill someone
who is in the conduct of participating in free speech
and free political dialogue, the bedrock of our society, then
you have attacked our society itself. And as a society,
we have a governmental administrative duty to correct that cancer

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and tear it out.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Jack, did you know this?

Speaker 6 (54:24):
There are millions and millions of dollars spent every year
of liberal lunatic organizations trying to eradicate the death penalty.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Well, yes, Tyler, it's insane.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
So the question you have to ask yourself, why are
there tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of
dollars being spent worldwide to try to promote the elimination
or eradication of the death penalty. The quick answer is
is that the left wins when they know chaos can

(54:57):
ensue when the death penalty no longer exists. Just like
what was said by Blake, just like wash up here
by Jack, if we allow the most heinous crime to
occur in this country with absolutely no penalty up until death,
the left wins and they will sow chaos across this.

(55:18):
So now you look at this ego and I want
I think about this, Why would anybody insert themselves to
try to eliminate the possibility of the death penalty in
any circumstance where you add that heinous crime. It's just
a really interesting thing to look at in the future,
because I think this country is going to be under assault,

(55:39):
particularly in the next few years here, where they're going
to try to block block that from.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
From having it.

Speaker 6 (55:45):
We're gonna we're gonna see that because that's a muscle
that the Left is trying to flex to, so more
division and chaos across America. Yeah, and I'll just add
at the memorial, you obviously saw Erica portrayed as the
forgiving Saint, which is what you see in Romans twelve,
where God says vengeance is mine, says the Lord. But

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then in Romans thirteen, after Erica got off stage and
Trump came on stage, you saw Trump playing out Romans thirteen,
which is I will appoint ministers of justice. And so
it's really hard and even Charlie kind of went back
and forth on it. I've gone back and forth on
it takes a lot of strength to be Erica. But

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I mean, I like to see a certain person dead
with the death penalty, I'll say that.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
But it's you know, it's an important difference. Actually.

Speaker 10 (56:41):
I think if you look at traditional Sharia countries, for example,
they'll actually what punishment you want is placed on the
victim or the family of the victim, and.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
They have that choice.

Speaker 10 (56:53):
And I think it's actually an important difference that in
Christian society we do not foist that burden onto the
victims of an offense, where you force them to have
to choose between you know, mercy and justice. That is
why we have the state wielding the power that it does.
We should not ask Erica Kirk to decide what the
penalty of her husband's assassin is. That is not just

(57:16):
to her, and it's not just to our society. It
is the role of the sovereign, the government, the state
to enact justice on behalf of the people.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
I think that's right them, is that it's the state it.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
If this is biblically ordered, wield the sword, but wield
it justly.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Little Esse A good question, good question.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Yeah, And guys, uh and I'm just gonna say shad
out because they're not going to say it. But Blake
and Mikey were there, all right. You see the tent
is right over here. That's the tent. That is not
like some facsimile or or you know, set up kind
of thing. That is the tent. And I might want

(58:03):
to put some stanchions around that, by the way, but
but that's the actual tent right there. And Blake and
Mikey they're sitting here, they're talking about this. They've been
soldiering on. But they they didn't watch this on video.
They were there standing feet away, steps away, and they've
still been here at work, fighting hard, fighting for the

(58:24):
mission every single day. So I just wanted to raise
them up for a second because they they've been phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
No conspiracy theorists today. We'll we'll comment on your trans shirt.
So it's a nice shirt, sir. All right.

Speaker 21 (58:47):
My name is James Shirley. I starved with Second Battalion,
fifth Marines. There any more Marines in the house, ro roight.
So I have sort of a simple question, and Charlie
was all about solutions.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
So I have a solution to to pitch.

Speaker 21 (59:02):
How can we really be truly America first if we're
not putting our veterans first. Our children need real role
models to look up to, and we don't need any
more instances like happened at that Mormon temple that Iraq
veteran could have been reached. So the solution that I'm
proposing is a coalition between recruiters, Student of America, Club

(59:25):
America turning point and hold those recruiters, hold colleges accountable
that target veterans and sell them a lie for a
degree that will get them nothing. I work for Boeing currently.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
I'm not proud of it.

Speaker 21 (59:40):
I'm also not proud to be a WSU graduate and
alumni because that college wasted the majority of my GI
bill on a degree that got me nothing but twenty
cents dollars more an hour. If we can't reach every
veteran through Christ, we can at least save them from themselves.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Yeah. Well, as I think the only veteran up here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
You know, I'll just say, Tyler, what do you think
Turning Point Veterans Coalition.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
We've talked about it for a long time. I brought
it up before, Tyler, I have brought this up. I'll
tell you this.

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
Our veterans are being taken advantage of left and right, uh,
you know, starting with the government because they we just
do not do enough. And it's a it's a it's
a back and forth teeter totter between Republicans and Democrats,
you know, not getting things done, not taking care of
the hospital system, not making sure that they get the

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health care that they need to start with. That's without
without question. But I think here, I mean, we love
our veterans here, right, thank you that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
We got.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
We gotta talk a lot more about it because the
first thing that this is why I love the President's agenda.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
And this is why this is.

Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
So important and we got to talk about this more often.
Was putting veterans first was at the forefront of this
last election because unfortunately, if we had not won this
last election right now, we would be at war. It's
like with that, without question, we would be you know, I,
I speak a little bit of Russian, I would already

(01:01:12):
be gone. I would be I would be a goner
for sure, like they would. They would have thrown me
up at the front of the line. Trust me, Republican,
you know all that they would have thrown.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Us in the front of the line.

Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
They This is this is where we have to especially
as a movement that is driven by young men. At
this point, we have a lot of young men that
came to their senses this last election. We have to
not abandon our military because we're we're not supporting crazy
leftist war games that are out there. And so there

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is a happy medium that's there to talk about and
Jack and you can talk about this at length.

Speaker 21 (01:01:48):
There needs to be an advocate there that's that's protecting
us from trauma that's unnecessary.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
We have to protect we have to.

Speaker 6 (01:01:54):
I totally agree with President Trump we have to make
our military as strong as possible, which means that we
have to make those that fight for us as strong
as possible, and men strength through peace and then strength
through peace and not and not get into battles that
we don't need to be in.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
What do you think, folks, Turning Point veterans, should we
start it up?

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I love and by the way, a key part of that,
A key part.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Of that, I would add, and I just I would
just add, is that, Tyler, what Turning Point veterans could
also do. You mentioned about helping them get into schools,
and obviously and when there's issues with the schools, but
also helping veterans make the transition from from the military
to the private sector, because we should not have a
single unemployed veteran or homeless veteran in this country. And

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I'm sick the death of US spending so much money
on illegal aliens when there are veterans who need it first.

Speaker 21 (01:02:49):
And if I could, if I could caveat that, But
we don't need students deciding they're called to serve and
going to serve then having no plan for the rest
of their life.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
They need to be God centered.

Speaker 6 (01:03:00):
Well and I'll tell you what, I would love to
hire every veteran in this room to help us chase ballots.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Come out, you come out of the military.

Speaker 6 (01:03:07):
You go straight into the front lines of protecting this country.
That's gonna also help cyclically develop that. So that's a
good point. A part of this is turning point. Action
has leaned in on the veteran element a little bit.
We need to do a lot more, but a little
bit and key targeting here for it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Swing state. We gotta win.

Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
We have to win and keep this country in good
shape so we can protect ourselves and protect our veterans.

Speaker 21 (01:03:32):
I had a coworker at work tell me that what
I wanted to do is potentially more dangerous than what
Charlie was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
And I just looked at me said, that's the point.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Thank you so much. Great question.

Speaker 6 (01:03:41):
God bless our veterans. Thank you for your servius. Mary Christmas.
By the way, I don't know if you guys know this,
but you're guys. You guys are gonna see the forty
eighth president in the state forty eight here pretty quick.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Wait wait, wait, wait, Mark Kelly's coming aoc He's gonna
be here.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
No, Mark Kelly is such a whiss. He wouldn't show
up here in debate Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
No, I told because he got all mad at me,
because because I was the one who broke the story
that it turns out that his little seditious six rant
was actually a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
And because he's getting a military pension, his investigation has
now been raised to the command level of the entire
Department of War. So he's freaking out. He said, oh no,

(01:04:35):
oh no. And I said, Mark Kelly, Mark Kelly, Fine,
if you want to be a man, you want to
be a man, you could go to outer space. Well,
if you can go to outer space, then you can
come face me here in Phoenix, Arizona at Amfes.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
So Mark Kelly, I'm gonna be here all weekend. Man,
I'm calling you out.

Speaker 6 (01:04:52):
We we we put him on stage right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Who would like to see Mark Kelly debate Jack?

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:05:02):
We need to get louder louder. Well, i'd like to
see Mark Kelly debate Jack.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
It's not gonna like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
He's not gonna like it when I bring up all
the money he's made from those Chinese by balloons.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Oh he's not gonna like that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
You know why Mark Kelly can't hear you right now
because he's actually from Houston, Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
He's not here Arizona. He can't hear you outside these
All right, go to request.

Speaker 7 (01:05:24):
My name is Robert Albitel, and I come as the
sole representative of the Turning Point Chapter at the University
of South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
All Right, all right, game Cox.

Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
Yeah, So a bit of context before I ask my question.
My parents immigrated here legally from uh an Eastern European
country known as Romania, and it was part of the
Soviet you know Union, the Eastern Bloc, and they immigrated
here for you know, me and my sister to have

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a better life, right as many people do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
And so.

Speaker 7 (01:06:00):
I when they were growing up, they had to deal
with because it was a socialist country. They had you know,
bread lines that were only opened certain hours, and you
had like tickets.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
It was essentially rationed.

Speaker 7 (01:06:16):
You had if you even had a car, you would
only be able to drive on certain days based on
which group you had. You know, my mom who watches
your show every day and her sister, my aunt, considered
cocoa powder to be like a luxury item equivalent to gold. Meanwhile,

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the president Nicol laou Chow Schisko at the time, who's
arguably worse than Joseph Stalin, was having the heaviest building
in the world and the second heaviest building, superseded only
by Buckingham Palace, and had hundreds of billions of dollars
to be built for him to live in.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
And so when I look at that, I've been in
that building.

Speaker 7 (01:06:59):
Yeah, it's I mean, it's a great place to visit.
I've been there too. Uh, but you know it shouldn't
be talking About's palace. Yeah, I got lost.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
In there once. It's the whole story.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Yeah, I would totally go this is Romania by the way,
Yeah I got I got.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Lost in that place.

Speaker 6 (01:07:14):
Did you know they like eliminated like half the city
to build that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
They they just like ran over.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
People's like you know about this, right, They just like
got rid of like people's entire house, like just like
ran over.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Villages to build that thing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Communism.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
So just went down the street, They're like, is this
they like knocked your house? It's like this your house.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
They like shot him on the spot, just like ran
it over, and they built the palace on top of it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
But then they too, so communist is terrible.

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
Yeah, and we also have a big manufacturers.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Anyways, you have a question.

Speaker 7 (01:07:42):
Yeah, uh so, looking at that, and when I see
socially being not only advocated for, but also enacted in
place like New York with Zoron, pay for me so
I can give you free stuff, mom, Donnie. You know,
I look at that, I think, oh my goodness, the
American dream is under attack. I might not be able
to live through it as someone who is Gen Z.
And so I got to ask, you know, what can
we do as a country to ensure that, you know,

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the youngest generation of voters coming in now, we'll be
able to experience owning a home, having a family, and
you know, experiencing the American dream.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Let's go with Let's go with Mikey on this one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Mikey, why is it that you're starting to see this
level of support for socialism Marxism among Gen Z?

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
Why do you support Zorona? Explain yourself? You why are
you such as Zoron Stan?

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:08:29):
Yeah, Well, there's radical problems facing young people.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
We're in the same generation.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
We can't buy a house, we have crippling student debt.
We may not be able to afford a family one day,
or have kids, or live out the American dream that
our parents lived out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
So we're asking ourselves.

Speaker 6 (01:08:46):
What are we going to do, And so we're turning
to radical solutions, which is Zoron Mamdani and so Erica
talked about this in a great speech recently where she said,
the government is replacing huzz bins for women, and you
saw that in New York where eighty percent over eighty
percent of women voters in New York City voted in

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massive numbers for Zonon Mom Donnie, And so New York
City is kind of like this Petrie dish of what
our entire nation is going to be facing here in
the next decade, which is rents out of control, not
being able to afford a home, still paying off debt,
credit card debt like crazy for young people, and then

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young women not wanting to get married, young men not
also pushing off marriage until as far as late as
they possibly can. And so you're turning to radical solutions
instead of turning to hard work. But at the same time,
we talked about veterans, young people are we want to
help veterans, but young people at the same time, we're

(01:09:49):
saying to ourselves we want to kind of turn our
stance on foreign policy, and we have a very different
stance on foreign policy than what are you know, older
colleagues have. And we just are kind of sick of
sending foreign aid to countries that don't necessarily need it
because from the time we were born, there's been a

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conflict in the Middle East. From the time we were born,
we've been seeing wars that the US has been involved in,
and we don't want to see it anymore. And we
want to see opportunities for young people to even get
a job. By the way, young people can barely get jobs,
and we also want to see veterans being taken care of.
But when we talked about America first and America only

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VERSUS America first and not just America only, this is
something that young people have a radical stance on because
we're feeling it the most intimately.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Like this is, these are massive problems for us.

Speaker 6 (01:10:45):
But you want to know the reality, Zora mob Donnie
is actually a really scary mofo. And the reason why
is because a lot of young people see him like
they saw Obama. And we even said this because the
night of the debate happened we did. We did it
after debate thought Crime episode and we talked about this.

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Who here watched the debate, the Mom Donnie debate, Not
that many go back and watch it. I mean, the
guy is pretty slick like he talks. He talks really
is a smooth talker. And that's exactly what, unfortunately, most
of people want.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
They want to be told stuff even if it's not true.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
And the fact of the matter is is all commies
are lying to you all the time. If there's a
person that's lying to you and you can tell you
know your best friend this, the next time they lie
to you is they're most likely a Marxist. That is
how they're taught. I mean, this is basically what we're
being taught in school at our public universities. People are

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being taught to be Olynsky eyes. That you're supposed to
be okay with the rules for radicals that these people
are being taught and you're supposed to just dumbly take
it and over and take it and then be like, oh,
but mom, Donnie looks okay, and he is a well
trimmed beard, and I'm sure he's not the worst, you know,
And it's because a member of the Islam faith that

(01:12:10):
I've ever met. But the reality is this is that
the guy's a Marxist and he doesn't care about you
as an individual. You know who cares about you as
an individual. The guys who wrote the Constitution of the
United States of America.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
That's individualism.

Speaker 6 (01:12:26):
And if we don't get serious about it, you're gonna
have smooth talking mom Donnie's pop up in every single
city and everyone's gonna be like, holy crap, how did
this happen?

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Like overnight?

Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
Because they carbon copy and do the thing over and
over again. So this is why it's important every person here.
You gotta get involved politically. You can't sit back and
just be like, I'm gonna let somebody else do it.
You gotta take out the guys that And this is
how Charlie Kirk came to be. I don't know if
you know this story, guys. The story of Charlie Kirk

(01:12:57):
is that the guys in Chicago so felt so bad
about not stopping Barack Obama from rising up that Charlie
Kirk was born and guys in Chicago all got together
and they supported a kid who was the most genius
kid that had come around the block in twenty twelve.
That's the story. And I'll tell you I've talked to

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some of these guys that supported Charlie early are there's
a lot of them that are here. They feel really
bad that they didn't stop Barack Obama when they could have.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
He never should have been a state senator. To a
US senator, you.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
Have to defeat these people at the state, at the
state legislator chare level. You have to defeat these people
the city council. You cannot let these Marxist become your
school board members. If you do that, you win. If
you stop them, we win. Stop them early. And by
the way, why Charlie was so amazing to young people

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is he saw things in us that we didn't even
see in ourselves. Okay, Like Charlie hired me when I
was eighteen years old. He saw students as as the
opportunity to America, not the problem to its future. And
Marco Rubio said this at his memorial. He was like,
when I found out Charlie, I said, what are you doing?
He said, going to college campuses to talk about freedom

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and conservatism. He said, uh, that's a terrible idea. People
thought he was crazy, but look where we are today.
And so Charlie's not here, right, but our movement is.
And so we have so many students. And so if
you know a young person, tell them to get involved
with a turning point chapter or to start a turning
point chapter, because we need to carry this torch.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
We need to carry this legacy.

Speaker 6 (01:14:37):
And unfortunately the pull yourself up by the bootstraps analogy
doesn't really work anymore for young people, and we need
to just make it ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Yeah, all right, thank you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Give it up for Mikey McCoy. Folks.

Speaker 16 (01:14:55):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Andrew Covid is in that house.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Producer Andrew is here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Where you've been? Andrew?

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Andrew?

Speaker 21 (01:16:04):
Andrew?

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
What have you been doing?

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
Yeah? Where were you?

Speaker 21 (01:16:07):
You?

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Literally like we started like an hour ago and you're late.

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
Explain yourself.

Speaker 16 (01:16:12):
It's that whole thing where Arizona doesn't change time. I
got my time zones mixed up again. Time zones are undefeated.
There's a lot of people here. Jesus, Louise, you guys
stayed around for these guys. All right, let's go to
the question.

Speaker 18 (01:16:25):
My name is jud Kohut, and my question is why
do why does the world want me to believe in
the tooth fairy if they don't believe in Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
I'll answer, I'll answer.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
I answer.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
It's very quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
It's very simple, because they won't believe in the tooth
theory and they'll tell you the tooth theory is not
real because the tooth theory only offers them money. But
Jesus Christ will offer eternal life in heaven for those
who bel leaving him, and that is something that terrifies
people who refuse him, terrifies him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Thank you, Thank you, Mary.

Speaker 6 (01:17:08):
You've got a great kid. Merry Christmas kid, keep it up.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
He just came up here and mogged everybody by answering
the asking the best question we've had.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
The entire time. Hey, what's your name? Kit? What's that
kid's name? What's your name?

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
What's his name?

Speaker 10 (01:17:24):
June Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jou
Jou Jude jud.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
I love your song, man. CrowdSurf that kid across.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Great Beatles song Jude's going places. Yes, please Hi, CrowdSurf
from all the way.

Speaker 22 (01:17:40):
To patriots from Washington State as a couple of.

Speaker 10 (01:17:43):
The other questions from Washington State here, I know, I'm
surprised pleasantly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Who hears from Washington State?

Speaker 16 (01:17:49):
Wow, I did go to the University of Washington, So
go dugs.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
No, no, No, you're from the Blue Side.

Speaker 22 (01:18:00):
No, I'm from the Yeah, I'm from the Blue Side.
I'm from like a little bit south of Seattle. So
it's it's rough there a little bit. But my question is,
so I'm twenty eight years old. I'm kind of in
that stage of life where like you're done with school,
I have my degree, I started a career in graphic design.
I work for my church, and with Charlie Kirk's passing,
it just kind of hits something with me, like I

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want to be doing more obviously, like not in the
stage of life where I'm married, having kids, and I
go through this thought pattern of like what would be
the most effective way to use my time? Obviously, like
you'd think working for a church, I feel like I'm
like doing something for the Lord. But I just like
I want to reach people, and so my thoughts like
do I stand on a corner and like preach the gospel?

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Do I like try to get hired at turning point,
do I like, you know, I just I guess I'm
just asking, like what what in your advice would be
like the most effective use of time for a young
adult who's in a stage in between school and family.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Well, I'll tell you.

Speaker 6 (01:18:59):
From an activism standpoint, You've got two things that you
can do that we provide at Turning Point that are
really helpful. On the face side, So tposay faith, if
your church is involved and all of that, that's great.
I highly recommend it if that's your line, right, if
that's if that doesn't fit for you for whatever reason,
at turning Point action we can use your help a

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few hours a month, a few hours really a year
to get involved.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
You're busy, you're starting a life. You've you've got work.

Speaker 6 (01:19:28):
You've got kids, you've got family, you've got whatever that
you're starting. It's really hard if everybody just just donated,
you know, somewhere in the in the realm of two
to three hours a month just to get involved politically.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
You can do that.

Speaker 6 (01:19:43):
You can do that tpaction dot com here in Arizona,
like you're in Washington, you could you could come down
here next year.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
When we have our midterms.

Speaker 6 (01:19:51):
Your help in specific places for midterms is going to
be really important. We had thousands and thousands of people
come to Arizona last year for the election. Who here
came as part of our ballot chasing?

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Did anyone here? Do you any ballot chasers here?

Speaker 6 (01:20:05):
Anyone that came down to Arizona or volunteered from where
you're at us?

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
See them? They're there? We do we have any future
ballot chasers here?

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Yeah? Who's gonna go to everybody?

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
That's everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:20:17):
But like so you can plan that ahead, right, like
next October, come down to Arizona, help us win the
governor's election here where you might not have that opportunity
in Washington or somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:20:27):
So that's how the left works, and they operate and
get people involved. But you can contribute back and feel
like you're involved with this bigger you know. I mean
you can get this feeling, you know, every election, of
being around good people that you agree with.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
That's that That is the correct political answer. But on
a personal side, I'll just say this, be a rebel.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Start a family.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
You will find no greater joy in life than getting married,
having children, and bringing kids into the world. There is
nothing better, no speech I've ever given, no event I've
ever been to, nothing compares to just being with your
kids and having them and raising them in every minute
of it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Truly.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Yeah, amen to that. What how old are you? Did
you say? Twenty eight? Okay?

Speaker 16 (01:21:16):
So yeah, and you said your career is graphic design
and you're busy with that.

Speaker 22 (01:21:21):
Yeah, I mean, well, to be honest, I actually just
put in my two weeks because of that feeling of
like I need to close the door on this and
just open myself up for what Elsecott has stream.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
So I'm really in a place of just like, wait, wait, look,
did you just put in your two weeks?

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Do you want to be a graphic designer for Turning Point?

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
There you go, and I'm pretty sure, I mean we
you haven't been to our office.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
You have to move to Arizona be a graphic design here.
But we'll take you.

Speaker 16 (01:21:49):
And I will say, Charlie was very proud of how
many like marriages and babies had come out of the
extended Turning Point family. So so maybe you could kill
two birds with one stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Come to Arizona. Thank you so much. Next question, this
guy don't don't worry about the trans shirt. It's it's okay,
thank you, thank you. Next question, we're serious about that.

Speaker 6 (01:22:18):
If you go to the Turning Point Action booth, say hey, guys,
over the Turning Point Action booth, we're sending a graphic designer.
So just get hey, give them, give them your info.
We're gonna hire you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
All right, what's your question? Hi, my name is Christy.

Speaker 19 (01:22:36):
First, I want to thank all the people behind me
who allowed me to come up to ask this question.
I am a first generation State Side born Puerto Rican
I am I was very proud to hear the gratitude
to the Latino community for getting Trump in. However, my
heart greaves for the disconnect found within the black and

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brown Christian Conservative churches and communities. As our country continues
to grow with greater black and brown Christian people who
do like to have big families and are very family oriented,
I believe that there is a significant harvest. I was
excited to find the Turning Point USA rise table, but

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from what I see, I'm wondering if there's more that
can be done to reach these Christian conservative communities because
there is such a political disconnect between conservative being conservative
politically and and their religion and being a Christian.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
So I guess two things.

Speaker 19 (01:23:38):
I want to encourage for there to be more for
the Christian brown and black communities. And I didn't know
if you guys had anything off the off your cuff
that you that's in the works right now to reach
those families and those that young population.

Speaker 16 (01:23:54):
So are you saying that you see an opportunity It's
hard to hear it here. You're saying it's there's an
opportunity that you see with black and brown Christian community
to reach them more, to become to vote conservative.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
Is that yet to vote correct politically?

Speaker 19 (01:24:08):
They're not conservative politically, they are so liberal and they
don't see Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:24:13):
You're right, they're socially conservative and politically liberal. It's very strange.
But yeah, it's a total disconnect. I mean, that's why
we have rise Right, and that's growing leaps and bounds.
We have people in chapters in all fifty states and
they're at all the HBCUs, they're in Hispanic communities. So
it's a growing part of our organization, a growing part

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of our focus. Absolutely, we're pouring more resources into that.
I would just say that, you know, we're seeing gains there,
especially with young I would say the divide is about
like forty forty five years old, fifty years old of
African American men, Hispanic men that are not as linked
to kind of the civil rights era of the past,
and they're way more open to conservative ideas.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
Donald Trump has.

Speaker 16 (01:24:58):
Totally opened the the door, honestly for conservatism with those
communities because he just comes at it from such a
brash new approach. Listen, it's gonna be it's gonna be
an uphill battle. But like you know, one of the
political facts that people don't appreciate is that if you
got twenty five thirty percent of the black vote in
this country, not to mention the Hispanic vote, you would

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basically derail the national political prospects of the Democrat Party forever.

Speaker 6 (01:25:23):
Right you wipe out Yeah, now, you'd wipe out the
Democrat Party.

Speaker 16 (01:25:29):
Yeah, they would be pretty much toast. I would just say,
you know, Hispanics came our way a lot last time
at but that's not written in stone. That is, we're
already losing that vote again right now, so we're back
to being behind. So we need to win that vote
that they tend to here's what I would just say
as well. They love immigration policy that is strong, that

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is masculine, that there's gonna protect the homeland. They don't
want to live in a crime written society either. They
don't want to live in a crowded society. They don't
want to live in a dirty society. So the Hispanics
a good immigration message. So I just want to challenge
anybody out there that thinks they're gonna win over Hispanics
within like an amnesty appeal.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
It's not gonna happen.

Speaker 16 (01:26:07):
So listen, we're making progress, but ultimately it's gonna be
economics and border law and order.

Speaker 6 (01:26:13):
Can I tell you what Charlie would say. Charlie would say,
go back to church. Start that right. We have so
many young men that have written in that are from
all sorts of communities, but also the Hispanic community, in
the Black community that they hadn't been to church in
a really long time with their families that said, hey,

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they wrote in.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
We got thousands of these.

Speaker 6 (01:26:35):
That said this is the first time I've been back
to church for real in a long time, and they've
stuck with it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
We tell people this all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
You don't have to be good at going to church,
but encourage those men, in particular young men who have
never been, who might feel weird because they've never been.
They never were maybe even raised in a home where
they had that opportunity to.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
Go to church.

Speaker 6 (01:26:55):
If you're a friend that has been to church and
you see a friend that hasn't been, then bring that
guy to church.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Show them or girl. But what I'm saying, we're talking.

Speaker 6 (01:27:05):
About young Ben, this is the moment that this is
the moment in history right now where we could make
massive gains and showing people, hey, this is the right
track to building a family and get politically on. Do
you just go, you just show up, we just go.

Speaker 16 (01:27:20):
We do need revival in the Black church though, Honestly, and.

Speaker 19 (01:27:24):
When Charlie Kirk passed, I was attending. I was a
member of a one black conservative Baptist church. And when
that happened, all over social media we were being told
if your church does not mention Charlie Kirk, leave the church.
And that Sunday I sat in the in the pews,
very nervous. It's a long story, but the Lord made

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it clear, no one is going to mention Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
So you do it.

Speaker 19 (01:27:48):
And I walked to the front by myself and I
and I lifted up his name and I asked for prayer,
God bless him.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
The church was shocked.

Speaker 19 (01:27:58):
They were shocked, and later they silently said thank you,
thank you, but be the difference is when I'm saying,
don't run away from those tough situations, step up and
and because it can be done.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Thank you so much for your talking. Next question, think
we're out of questions. That was one. You know, you're

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the second person that has said that.

Speaker 16 (01:28:36):
What you mean like you just, oh, do you want
the AI like translation, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna do
that for the you mean the the catalog, all right? Noted,
you're the second person that said that to me, Jack,
why don't you take us home?

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
And it's not just Spanish, it's every other language. But
here's the fight. Yeah, yeah, well this is this has
been the battle. You can you can produce content. So
there's a lot of conservatives that actually fight over this
because they're like, why are you producing that in Spanish?

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Right, because it's like.

Speaker 6 (01:29:10):
This is an English country, force me it is okay
to produce conservative content in Spanish that tells people to
also learn English, right, like it's that's.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
A good thing, right.

Speaker 6 (01:29:22):
And so this is one of the things We've been
in this debate for a long time with a lot
of people. And I'm not saying you said this, but
I'm just bringing this topic up.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
It is okay.

Speaker 6 (01:29:31):
We have a lot of pockets in America because of
rampant immigration issues, right, whether it's illegal or legal in America,
that are never going to hear or understand the topics
that are at hand if you don't speak to them
and go and meet them at least halfway.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
And so I totally agree.

Speaker 6 (01:29:48):
I think we should we should do those things in
those communities so that people can hear them.

Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
One more question, quick one, quick one.

Speaker 23 (01:29:56):
Yeah, I had a question. I'm my name is as Unik,
and I'm real close to the mic, and I'm from.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Alaska, and oh yeah, question and the state.

Speaker 23 (01:30:07):
And it's kind of more of a statement slash question.
It's everybody thinks that Alaska is like a big red
state and it's not. It's starting to turn very blue.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
It's becoming a swing state.

Speaker 23 (01:30:19):
We have Mary pittol in Congress now and that should
not be the case. We have Lisa Murkowski, who is
basically a Democrat. And if we have three senators, two
senators that are making the difference, the the turning the
tide in the Senate right now, I feel like there
should be way more investments and resources into Alaska and

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considering it more as a swing state. That way we
can make sure it is read for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
Tyler, I know you were going for it. How do
we fix Alaska?

Speaker 6 (01:30:51):
Well, you know why. Alaska is like most recently screwed up.
Right right choice voting is the worst. Everybody here needs
to know it. You need a tattoo on yourself. No
to ranked choice voting. California and Washington and so many
other states, so many other states got screwed up because

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of a top two primary system. They screwed with the elections,
and that's what drove your state deep blue.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Guess what the new thing is.

Speaker 6 (01:31:22):
So that was so unpopular, they're not going to ever
pass that in another state, the top two primary system
that but now California and Washington are screwed up permanently
because of that. The new thing is ranked choice voting,
and they're not trying to produce rank choice voting in
deep blue states. They're trying to institute it in red
states like Alaska, and then what happens, you will like

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democrats through the system. And I can get into all
the details of why. What's important is that everybody here
is a warrior, leaves this place and goes Rank choice
voting is not going to enter my state ever, right Alaska,
Alaska's to fix. Let's get rid of it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
It's true.

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
You gotta get rid of ranked choice voting to turn
back the clock.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
And it's still within the time period. I think you
can do that. We're working on it.

Speaker 23 (01:32:09):
But they worded it really weird, whereas like vote no
if yes and vote yes if no, and so it
didn't pass and now it's gonna it's on the ballot again.

Speaker 6 (01:32:17):
It's horrible. A Lisa Murkowski is a total Democrat. It's
insane that you have to deal with that. But that's
the only way she survives now is you get people
who act like Democrats and ranked choice voting and that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
They're frauds. Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
All, right, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
Unfortunately, unfortunately that is gonna have to close it out
for thought crime.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Live should do it. Charlie shant I, R oh, we will,
we will hold on, and.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
We have right here the original four guys on Thought
Crime Live that we used to do the show every
Thursday with our good friend, and he's on here right
now because he's on assignment. He's on permanent assignment with God.
I like to think that Charlie's got the nine to
noon hour and then Rush, of course is noon to

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three up there in heaven every single day. And we're
gonna continue this fight. We're gonna continue this show. We're
gonna continue all of this in Charlie's honor, and I
hope that all of you will continue to do what
Charlie would say at the end of every single Thought

(01:33:29):
Crime episode, go out there and commit thought crime.

Speaker 24 (01:33:35):
Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
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