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A Karen at Fort Lauderdale Hollywood International Airport goes on a tirade after passengers criticize her for getting up and moving forward to get off the plane before the passengers in front of her. Meanwhile, Chip and Joanna Gaines have responded to criticism from some evangelical groups after their new Magnolia Network series, Back to the Frontier, featured a same-sex couple with two sons.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dana Lashes of surd Truth podcast sponsored by Keltech.
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It's his laugh mission to make bad decisions. It's time
for Florida Man.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh boys. So a couple of different stories here. First up, Oh,
by the way, the Chuck E Cheese dude that we
told you about, well the guy addresses Chuck E Cheese.
You know how they arrested the Chuck E Cheese mouse. Anyway,
so he was arrested for credit card fraud, apparently a
lot of it. So I found another story actually was
(00:35):
just filed. I mean literally, it was filed like ten
minutes ago. He got arrested for credit card fraud. So
remember we were like, oh, he's got these felonies that
he was arrested for, and they never actually said what
they were, which made me think he's got bodies and basements. No,
it's credit card fraud. So I needed to update you
with that. Florida man drove to a rival insurance agency
(00:55):
and threw Molotov cocktails at it. Yeah, well, he drove
his Toyota over to the Unit Vista agency in Lake Wales, Florida,
attacked it and threw molov Molotov cocktails. Because the rival
agency moved into close to the competition. Are you serious?
That's how you you? What year do you think this is?
(01:17):
My dude? He uh yeah, he threw a ton of
Molotov cocktails in it. They tracked him down because guess
what he was called on surveillance footage, and and he
did it and then went to work, and they went
right to his work and arrested him after they they
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(01:40):
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there and uh yeah, so they found him at work.
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iguana's I mean, they're pests, but also they have feelings too,
taste like chicken. Florida man was arrested after he didn't
(02:03):
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allowed his dog to chase it and then he brutally
killed it. So he's facing a half dozen charges on this. Sorry,
that's the auto thing. He's oh my gosh, shut up.
He's facing a half dozen charges because he tortured it.
It's five thousand dollars bond. So he let his dog
chase it, and then he picked it up by its
(02:23):
tail and then started slamming it against a rock and
then a sidewalk and all kinds of stuff and everybody.
He did this in front of witnesses, So yeah, you
can't do stuff like that. That's just you're a psycho.
Stop it just quit. A couple of other ones a
apparently everybody left their baby in a bar or a
baby in the car while they went to a bar.
(02:44):
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in a running car while they went to go drink
at a bar Flaker County. Oh my gosh, you know
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how humid it is outside there. They were arrested child felony,
child neglect with out great bodily harm, and they apparently
he went and checked out. The dad went and checked
once on the baby in the vehicle before going back
(03:05):
inside and drinking. They just said it was an infant.
They didn't say the age. The baby's okay. And then
a teen mother was arrested because she left her baby
inside a hot car so she could go watch U Smurfs.
Eighteen year old woman in Florida. The child was flushed
and crying. It was one hundred and seven degrees and
there they rescue the baby. The mom went to jail
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through forty seven the simulcast of the radio program. It's
already tough when you're flying right, You're on an aluminum
tube and you're in the sky, and I just get
real antsy. When I'm in I feel like I'm being
held captive with a bunch of people. I don't even
(04:52):
know how I'm going to do a cruise later the
academic thing with MRC going up to Norway. I mean,
it's not like I can scale up the size of
a feword to get away or anything. But being on
the plane, like where else you're gonna go, like open
the door and fall to the ground. Like where else
you're gonna go, hide in the bathroom, hide in the laboratory.
So I get it. When it's time to get off
(05:12):
the plane, people want to get off, especially if you
have connecting flights that can be tricky, or if you
got to use the loo, because using the restroom on
the plane is probably one of the nastiest things ever,
next to writing the subway in New York it's horrible.
They're always so bad, like you got to use it
first and then just give it up. Then you just
give it to God after that because that's you know,
only he can help after that point. So I get it,
(05:34):
you want to get off the plane, right, But I
think there's like ways to be polite about it. But
also people don't want to be polite. In today's society.
For whatever reason, it feels like there's less of it.
I think there's less of it because people are tired
of putting up with stuff. They're just tired. People are
just tired. There's too much, there's too much happening. So
audio sun Bite seventeen. This is at Fort Lauderdale Hollywood
(05:56):
International Airport. This woman went on a tirade because she
was getting criticized by passengers for getting up and moving
forward to get off the plane before the passengers in
front of her were able to get off. Now, I
don't know how all of this kicked off, because you know,
it's always we have all of these it's like bigfoot.
(06:18):
We have phones and all these video recording things. But
you know, nobody gets bigfoot. So I don't know exactly
how bad it got to get to this point, but
audio someun by seventeen, this is what happened. H my god,
you're all whining for no reason. Let the people go
(06:42):
the way you want to. It's just a cavernge and
that's just the way it is with people. My god,
did you off showing up? It's not affecting any of you,
you wizards. So funny, here are the cares about it
(07:03):
because you're the ones. You're the one to make a noise.
Nobody calling and not even I'm sorry, do you have
my permission to record me? Your public because you've never
said one? I can tell you, oh yes, I can
give him you want to do or nothing. You just
(07:23):
sit back there. You can know you're not going to
insult them because of an accident. We're not doing that
with your finger out. Yeah. Change when they say eight
and they talk about low I Q I use AIDS
and I'm I'm in a doctoral program. Oh my god,
lawyer too long. I don't say as you do you
(07:48):
even know what racist means? Oh my god, wait, you're white,
that's racist? Maybe phobe. We're talking about accents maybe get
the vocabulary right. When we get off this playing, I'll
meet you out there with my bar park everybody. Everybody
is unsure. I'm sorry that everybody on this plane is insufferable.
They're all horrible. Everyone is horrible. If I was the pilot,
(08:11):
I would have dove it into the ocean. I'm like, wow,
gone doing mankind of favor. Oh my gosh, where'd you
even start? She was trying to get off that she
wanted to go off the plane before every I've been,
I've seen that before. Most Most of the time, people
are nice. The only time that I ever said anything
(08:32):
on a plane when people were trying to rush forward
was actually my oldest son was with me. I can't
remember where we were going, but there was an elderly
lady who was right across the aisle from us, and
she was like really elderly and apparently like talk to
her a little bit. She her husband had passed earlier
that year. She was going to see her sister, whose
children had placed her sister in a nursing facility. So
(08:55):
I'm already like, my heart is already hurting for this lady, right,
and we helped her put her suit case up and
helped her get you know, situated, because she had she
wasn't she didn't have mobility issues, but she was like
eighty something. She was very it was she still an
independent lady. Sharpa's attack and she had every right to fly,
but you know, just have a little consideration, right, So
when the plane landed and everyone's getting up and my
(09:18):
uh son was actually making sure she got up and
had her toe bag, there was a younger woman and
then people just started coming forward and one woman literally
pushed past her to get to the front and almost
knocked this woman on the other two passengers in the seat,
and then everyone else it was like murmurh. They saw
(09:38):
this one lady going up and I'm you know, I'm
like immediately trying to help this elderly lady because the
flight attendants were in the front, they're opening the door,
they're doing they're not right there in your section, and
I'm like, this woman is gonna get trampled. And all
these people came up. So I got up and I
was like, can you please wait. You know, I'm still
trying to literally get her up from the aisle. And
this was probably like in two thousand and nine, twenty ten,
(10:02):
and they kept pushing, so finally I lost my cal
and I did yell at people. I was like, can
you guys just chill the hell out for five seconds.
I'm like, we're all going to the same place. I'm like,
can I let her get up first? Because she got
knocked down by one of you. And I was so
mad that they didn't even notice that this woman was
literally knocked over in the aisle, and I made sure
(10:26):
she got out before us, so if they were gonna
like try to run her down again, at least they
would hit me and my child first. But you know,
getting off the plane, and she was just slow getting up.
She wasn't like slow walking, it was just you know,
she's eighty something. And I was just like, and I
think the people realize what happened, and they saw her
kind of trying to get out of it, because when
(10:46):
you fall in between those aisles, you know how hard
that is to get if you're not eighties, it's like
hard to get up anyway because you're on your stuff,
you can't move the seat, you can't get up. It's awkward.
And I think they realize, oh my gosh, we got
to chill knock this little lady down and then they
were fine after that. But I literally did have to
yell at people. That's the only time I ever did.
(11:07):
Otherwise I just don't care. I'm not in a rush
to get off the plane. I always whenever we have
connecting flights. There's only been one time that it's been
close because there was nothing else. But I always give
myself tons of time if I got a connecting flight
somewhere A. I avoid connecting flights, but if I have
to take when, I always give myself tons of time.
And not everybody can prepare that, you know, plan that
far in advance, but just try. But I mean, what
(11:29):
is it going to save you a couple of minutes
to rush forward? If that? This doesn't make any sense.
But the problem with this is that I don't know
if she had a connecting flight. I don't know. She
could have been a heck of a lot nicer and
everybody else could have been. But she didn't say it
came at any point that she had a connecting flight
that she had to get to or anything like that.
(11:50):
She was just like, you know whatever, I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Lady live, If I had a connecting flight, I would say, yeah,
all right, you guys, you got me. But you know
I have a connecting flight, so that's why I got
up here.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah. Yeah, because I've been on planes where they're like,
if you don't have a connecting flight, you know, can
you let other people go forward? And it's like, I don't,
you know, I don't have an issue. I'm not in
a rush to get off the plane. And I my
husband likes to get off the plane like as soon
as possible. But I'm like, h chill, we don't got
to be in a rush. It's all good. It's all good. Seriously,
clearly some people got places they got to be. Just
(12:21):
let it go. It doesn't really doesn't really bug me.
But what bugs me is like when I see older
people like that lady. I don't know if I've ever
been that mad in public in a long time, like ever.
I was so mad for her. I just could not
believe that someone just like powered through and just not
I mean literally knocked her in between the seats like
she was butt up and her I mean almost like
(12:41):
a downward dog position. They had knocked her in that
seat and it was really awkward for her to get
up and the other seat mate passengers, the other passengers
in her row were trying to help her. I'm trying
to help her, but everybody on that plane was just
not helping the situation. Not helping the situation. Clearly she
felt entitled. She was snotty. You know the point where
(13:04):
it went really downhills, where the other lady was like,
I'm in a doctorate program. Oh my gosh, nobody cares.
Just stop. Stop, don't engage with stupid because stupid loves
it and stupid feeds off it. You do not have to.
I always tell everybody you do not have to attend
every fight to which you are invited. You do not
have to just let it. Some people just need to
(13:29):
show their backsides. Let them do it. But it just
gots it, and I'm like, there's kids on this flight.
I felt bad for the one dude who was just
sitting there eating snacks. Did you see him? He was
the only guy who would not bothering his soul on
this flight. He's sitting there just eating his snacks and
she turns around and starts at him. I was like,
that poor man, he's eating his snacks, probably eating them
(13:49):
plain whatever the plain trail mix? Did they even offer
it her? To the people with peanut allergies get upset.
I don't know. The whole thing is just just two much.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That dude was my spirit animal, right, I'm the same
way if people are are in a rush and they
just let them go. If you're in the plane, you're
not in a rush to get off the plane. Having
three or four more people in front of you as
you're heard it off the plane through the jet bridge
is not You're.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Not You're not gonna get a special award.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You're not gaining anything.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, they're not gonna they're not gonna be at the
end of the thing like you were. The first stuff.
Here's a million dollars. You guys are losers because you
didn't get off the plane first. No one's doing that.
There's not those types of rules.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Not twentieth in line. I'm fifteenth.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I'm a better person. Put that on my tombstone. First
off the plane, you know, just just but it it
just yeah. And I don't like being in crowds where
you're jostling like that. I don't, Oh man, I can't
stand it. So I will totally just chill, let them,
let it, let them go by, and then do what
I gotta do right, and because I already have I
(14:54):
pack light anyway, I already have all my stuff. I
only ever do carry on. So it's like one one
and I'm out. But they're there are a lot of
nice people that'll they'll see you, because if you don't go,
then it's like the current of people just and then
you just you know, you just sit there until the
whole plane gets off. But every now and then there
are people nice enough that are like, oh my gosh,
go ahead and go, like you're you're sitting here ready
to go. I'm just not going to like fight with
(15:14):
people to get off the plane because I don't have
that much patience in life, so I like to reserve it,
you know what I mean, for like the times that
it would really would matter, right, like picking up an
elderly woman who gets knocked over in the aisle. That's
you know, things like that. But this, I see things
like this, and it makes me not want to fly.
I already don't like it. But I don't know what
(15:36):
I'm going to do on this cruise, guys, I don't
even know. I was looking at the boat, the boat ship,
I don't know. I literally all everything I know about
getting on boats is from lakes, fishing canoes and then
having a power little power boat like in the egzoomas
and going, you know, driving around that. And I know
how to I know ties and know how to navigate.
(15:57):
I know how to read nautical maps, because there was
no way I was taking my family out in the
open ocean without ever being able to do that because insane.
But we're on a big boat and can We're going
to be in the Fjords, which is basically like there's
no ground, it's just you look around at it's water
and rocks. That's a sheer cliffs that goats couldn't even
get on, Like a goat couldn't even like one of
(16:19):
those weird ones couldn't even get up there.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It's not a carnival cruizy going on. No, no, it's
I think you'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I don't know. All I'm worried about like food poisoning
and everybody having diarrhea and like a god.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I guess those are valid concerns or.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Like what if, oh my gosh, I don't know, what
if the boat what if there's a drunk captain that
happened you guys, remember that story. What if there's a
drunk captain and they hit something and the we capsize
in a fiord and then a lockness monster from Scotland
eats us.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I don't know, before he capsize, you just drink with
him so that he's not drinking as much.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
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And now all of the news, you would probably miss.
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Speaker 1 (18:02):
Karaoke Zeppelin for the rest of the show. I'm telling
you him. It's such a Then I gotta tell you
about my soft serve thing that I got. It's just
so weird here today. I have no idea what's happening?
All right? So uh, first up, Oh, Poland has reintroduced
border control border controls with Germany. Now, remember let's go
back like a year real quick, when you had different
(18:23):
European Union nations that were freaking out over the absolute
deluge of people coming in from North Africa, et cetera.
And they were going in through Germany, and Germany was like,
we're not going to respect borders. We're just go ahead.
You're part of the EU. We're just gonna let everyone
filter through. So Poland has reintroduced border controls with Germany.
In a crackdown. Their president said, it's a Pole's first
(18:44):
agenda and they are not messing around, Carol. Now, Rocky
ran on the slogan of Poland first, Poles First, and
defeated the more liberal candidate, and now they're taking a
very very tough approach, similar to what Italy's been doing
on immigration. So very interesting. A man's in custody after
he made a bomb threat on a plane that was
leaving Saint Petersburg in a Clearwater International airport. Yeah, you
(19:07):
can't do that, right if you ever watched Meet the Parents,
because that you can't even say the word bomb, bomb, bomb,
can't even do it, you can't, But not like that.
Twenty seven year old Taj Taylor told another passenger that
his laptop was a bomb during the flight. Clearly they
didn't watch Key and Peel either, because that passenger immediately
went and told one of the airline attendants and was
(19:30):
I mean you would write, you would be like this
guy's got a bomb. This is like really crazy, and
they were getting ready to take off. Guys twenty seven
years old told the passenger's laptop was a bomb, and
like I'm just saying I really were going to dract
sclounce and not talking about no Terry Bradshaw or no
Terry Clouth. You know, I'm just saying, you know, you
(19:51):
gotta dract them clounces. A man setting off fireworks this
is in Boston, killed himself. I mean, I was just
telling the show. Congratulates everybody got here with all their
fingers and toes. Intact. Seven year old Robert Spagnuolo. Well,
he was apparently killed by a firework Friday night. According
to ten Channel ten Boston, it was a fireworks incident
(20:13):
and it was Plymouth County District Attorney's office. They confirmed it,
and they said that he was identified and it was
directly involving fireworks. They didn't say like what. They didn't
say if it was, you know, a Roman candle or
what it was, but you just do. It was a
big one. You gotta be careful out there. I do
not want to talk about the eel one. Can we
just not? Are you gonna make me? You can read it?
(20:37):
Share this one? This is yours? No I triple dog
dare you well?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Scientists have found doctors have found a live eel swimming
in a man's abdominal cavity. It was in him swimming
around in the abdominal cabin.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You're welcome, Okay, right, this is so gross. Uh the
world's largest time capsule. I love how that was just
the story opened in Nebraska fifty years later. Did we
know what's in it? Probably corner scar stuff. I don't
know what's in it now. They just said it was
the world's largest head pet Rocks artwork at tual Suit,
Chevy Vega, all that good stuff. There is a big
(21:19):
dust up right now with the games Chip and Juanna Gaines.
I don't know if you've ever been to Waco, but
Waco is basically Magnolia territory. Like, right when you get
into the town of Waco, everything is about Magnolia. Here
(21:41):
are the silos, silo there, good to see you. Here's
the it's I mean, it's Waco Magnolia. Really, it's just Magnolia.
They're probably gonna rename it. Who knows. They it's I mean,
they own the town, like they control everything in the town. Basically,
it's you know, it's a cute, cutie little town. But
they've gotten very, very famous. They have their HGTV show,
(22:03):
and they've gone on to go leave HGTV and create
their own media entity, which I think has been very successful,
and there are a lot of people that are big
fans of them. And I've been down I've taken my
mom down there before and it's they've you know, they're
(22:25):
very faithful people. They're Christians, they've talked about their faith.
And now they're kind of in some hot water and
it's not hot water the way you think it would be,
right because they've previously been in trouble because they've been Christians.
Now they're accused of going woke because they feature a
(22:49):
same sex couple in one of their in their new series,
it's a series called Back to the Frontier on that
new network they created, Magnolia Network. Series premiered on July tenth,
and they, I guess, select the couples that are going
to be the people that are going to be on
the show, and they I haven't seen it the show,
(23:10):
but they go to the Frontier. That sounds like camping.
That's too close to camping to me. And you guys
know how I feel about that sidebar if you're unfamiliar
with it. We invented the house as a people. I
don't like appropriating my ancestors way of living because we
have all of these new innovations and you know, I mean,
I hate modernity, but I love electricity and hot water,
so you know, there we go. So anyway, they have
(23:31):
a Texas couple that appear on the show with their
two sons and they're they're two men, and they're one
of the three couples. They live like eighteen hundreds homestutters sidebar, sidebar. Again, sorry,
there's no social media in the eighteen hundred, so that
probably that's a big selling point for me. Would you
like to get away from influencers selling me the exact
same stuff that you can find at home goods? Yes,
(23:52):
you do want to get rid of Okay, you want
to you want to get away from all the white ladies. Okay,
let's let's go be home stutters in the eighteen hundreds.
So they're getting a lot of heat because they featured
the same sex couple in their show. Is one of
these three couples, right, They're getting a lot of heat
for it. And to the point where you have the
(24:12):
American Family Association that has Babylon bias. Said something about
an American Family Association. There are people that are concerned
because they expected the gains to continue to upholding biblical
values and make that part of what their work is.
And the AFA said quote, it's said disappointing because they've
(24:36):
been very influential in the evangelical community. They've stood firm
on the sanctity of marriage, et cetera. Said, they're not
sure why they've reversed course, and the comments have been
very interesting. They've gotten a lot They've gotten a lot
of heat in the past. I don't know, for not
having gay couples on their shows, like when they were
(24:59):
doing their house flipping, the show where they flip the houses.
Apparently they had never had like a gay couple on
their show, and they were getting heat for that. I
don't know if this is to maybe satiate some of
those criticisms, but I do think that it poses a
problem for them. And here's why I think it poses
(25:20):
a problem for them, because, first off, I don't I
think that they need to handle it better on social media.
Social media is a poor place to mitigate things. Number one,
especially this nature, because everybody's immediately defensive because social media,
by entering it is a defensive place. That's why everybody's miserable.
Everybody only wants to show you the pretty curated side
(25:42):
of things because everybody's so judgmental. Social media is where
people go, especially Instagram, and they want to either jealously
lurk or they want a flex. It's like one of
the two. So that's why I hate. So it's why
I'm not as active on Instagram as I used to be,
because I just can't. That's the can't. I don't know,
but they have been getting a lot of criticism, criticism
(26:06):
from a lot of even pretty influential people on the right.
I think the problem that they have is when they
started their building, their their new business, when they started
in this industry, they really came out very strongly as
a Christian family and a Christian couple, and that's how
they promoted themselves. They talked about faith, they talked about family,
(26:28):
family values, and their work as you know, kind of
like a mission basically like an extension of like their ministry,
so to speak. And they really leaned into that and
that's great. The problem is is there are certain demographics
that when you lean into, you can't compromise it after
(26:49):
you lean into it. If you're going to go the
evangelical route, if you're going to go to the Christian route.
You cannot temper it by including like a same sex couple,
because that's not your base and and it's not your
base and be it looks inconsistent and authenticity. If there's
anything that we've learned with the advent of social media
(27:10):
and oversharing, is that authenticity is king people like authenticity.
They are gravitating away from the highly stylized, curated stuff
and they just want the real thing. They want authenticity.
This looks highly inauthentic. It does kind of seem like
they're doing it and as a way to maybe insulate
(27:31):
themselves against some of the criticisms that they've received. And
I'm just speculating for on my part here because I
don't know why they would do it. I mean, there's
certain things you can be as loving as you want to,
and it has nothing to do with being mean or loving.
You know a lot of Christian people they think, well,
you know, there's multiple different kinds of sin. And one
of the reasons that people you know, try to speak
(27:52):
about it is because they love people and they want
people to be able to join them in eaven. And
that's you know, I remember a pen and teller, I
think pen who had said because he's an atheist, and
he had said that he actually, of all of his friends,
he loves his Christian friends. And he was saying that.
Someone asked him if he was ever annoyed that they
were trying to like witness him, and he said no,
I would be mad at them and think they were
(28:14):
inauthentic if they didn't, because they if they really believe this,
and they really believe in this kind of life after death,
and why wouldn't you want someone that you care for
to take part in that? And so they're reaching out
to me so that I can experience that. And he
had said that that was you know it, really he
kind of uses that as a basis to determine someone's
(28:36):
validity and their belief set. And I think that makes
a lot of sense. And I apply that to this
situation as well. And I think that Christians, especially those
who have followed the Gainses this entire time, they have
every every reason and justification to question why are you
doing this now? It would be one thing if they
started and they came out as what am I thinking of?
(29:00):
Not agnostic in terms of belief, but agnostic in terms
of their content, what they talked about, their content, and
the perspective through which they wanted to show you their content,
and they didn't take that route. And that's why it
feels like a one eighty to so many of their base,
because now it kind of seems like, regardless of where
you're at, it kind of seems like they're doing it. It
(29:20):
would be like, you know, for it would be like
a gay couple all of a sudden, you know, going
back on and going the other way. It just it's inconsistent.
It doesn't make sense, especially if you've built your career
on this right. It would be like that show Queer
Eye for the Straight Guy, just having like all straight
stylists or something, you know what I mean. It's just different.
(29:42):
Why would you? Why would you flip like that with
your base? And I think that this is what a
lot of people are asking questions on. And I've never
met Chip and Joyna Gains. I know his sister, and
there's this. They're the sweetest family. And I don't think
that anybody's doing this or having this position or express seeing,
you know, defense of their position out of meanness or cruelty.
(30:04):
But I do think that he's coming across as a
little bit too defensive on social media, and you got
to be careful with that because social media does not
allow for a lot of nuance, and when you seem
overly defensive, you seem hostile, and you really want to
avoid that, especially as it concerns this topic and the
what I get from them as they're saying that, you know, uh,
(30:29):
this is it's about showing love, and it's about you know,
showing you know, including people showing love or whatever. And
this is the defense that he has given in a
couple of different tweets. I understand the Christian criticism of it,
that you don't show love by mainstreaming what the Bible
has declared to be a sin, and you don't show
(30:53):
love and acceptance by making someone easy in a behavior
that goes against the scripture you claim to uphold. And
I understand the criticisms that these individuals have, and that's
not the media misrepresenting it, and it's not these people
misrepresenting their intentions. You cannot create an entire industry based
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on faith and as an extension of your faith and
then be seen as compromising it to the people who
help build your business. That's the real problem here, and
it does seem like whenever people get to a certain
point in success that that tends to happen. It is
very very hard to stand your ground, and there's all
different types of ways that people try to use to
(31:37):
justify it. But it is a very unpopular thing to
say that the Bible says what it says, and that's
what the Bible says. If people have a problem with it,
they can take it up with God, not the people
who are reading the Bible and just simply repeating what
it says. It has nothing to do with the feeling
of hatred or anything else. Again, you either believe or
you don't. You don't get to pick and choose what
(31:57):
parts of scripture you want to believe in what parts
of script sure you don't and everybody falls short by
the way of perfection. There's no such thing. I mean,
that's why you know churches are oftentimes viewed as a
spiritual hospital, so to speak. But I don't know what
their motivation for doing this is, but it is. It
doesn't look good and I think they need to find
(32:18):
a different way to address it than what they're doing now,
because this is going to really hurt them, especially now
with younger generations being more conservative and demanding more authenticity
and consistency. This is a really bad sign. Thanks for
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by the way, the Chuck E Cheese dude that we
told you about, well the guy addresses Chuck E Cheese.
You know how they arrested the Chuck E Cheese mouse. Anyway,
so he was arrested for credit card fraud, apparently a
lot of it. So I found another story actually was
(00:35):
just filed. I mean literally, it was filed like ten
minutes ago. He got arrested for credit card fraud. So
remember we were like, oh, he's got these felonies that
he was arrested for, and they never actually said what
they were, which made me think he's got bodies and basements. No,
it's credit card fraud. So I needed to update you
with that. Florida man drove to a rival insurance agency
(00:55):
and threw Molotov cocktails at it. Yeah, well, he drove
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attacked it and threw molov Molotov cocktails. Because the rival
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My dude? He uh yeah, he threw a ton of
Molotov cocktails in it. They tracked him down because guess
what he was called on surveillance footage, and and he
did it and then went to work, and they went
right to his work and arrested him after they they
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Great job, guy, you're so smart. You're so smart. Let's see.
Oh I don't want to read, okay, I don't like
iguana's I mean, they're pests, but also they have feelings too,
taste like chicken. Florida man was arrested after he didn't
(02:03):
just kill an iguana, He tortured it to death. He
allowed his dog to chase it and then he brutally
killed it. So he's facing a half dozen charges on this. Sorry,
that's the auto thing. He's oh my gosh, shut up.
He's facing a half dozen charges because he tortured it.
It's five thousand dollars bond. So he let his dog
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then a sidewalk and all kinds of stuff and everybody.
He did this in front of witnesses, So yeah, you
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a teen mother was arrested because she left her baby
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through forty seven the simulcast of the radio program. It's
already tough when you're flying right, You're on an aluminum
tube and you're in the sky, and I just get
real antsy. When I'm in I feel like I'm being
held captive with a bunch of people. I don't even
(04:52):
know how I'm going to do a cruise later the
academic thing with MRC going up to Norway. I mean,
it's not like I can scale up the size of
a feword to get away or anything. But being on
the plane, like where else you're gonna go, like open
the door and fall to the ground. Like where else
you're gonna go, hide in the bathroom, hide in the laboratory.
So I get it. When it's time to get off
(05:12):
the plane, people want to get off, especially if you
have connecting flights that can be tricky, or if you
got to use the loo, because using the restroom on
the plane is probably one of the nastiest things ever,
next to writing the subway in New York it's horrible.
They're always so bad, like you got to use it
first and then just give it up. Then you just
give it to God after that because that's you know,
only he can help after that point. So I get it,
(05:34):
you want to get off the plane, right, But I
think there's like ways to be polite about it. But
also people don't want to be polite. In today's society.
For whatever reason, it feels like there's less of it.
I think there's less of it because people are tired
of putting up with stuff. They're just tired. People are
just tired. There's too much, there's too much happening. So
audio sun Bite seventeen. This is at Fort Lauderdale Hollywood
(05:56):
International Airport. This woman went on a tirade because she
was getting criticized by passengers for getting up and moving
forward to get off the plane before the passengers in
front of her were able to get off. Now, I
don't know how all of this kicked off, because you know,
it's always we have all of these it's like bigfoot.
(06:18):
We have phones and all these video recording things. But
you know, nobody gets bigfoot. So I don't know exactly
how bad it got to get to this point, but
audio someun by seventeen, this is what happened. H my god,
you're all whining for no reason. Let the people go
(06:42):
the way you want to. It's just a cavernge and
that's just the way it is with people. My god,
did you off showing up? It's not affecting any of you,
you wizards. So funny, here are the cares about it
(07:03):
because you're the ones. You're the one to make a noise.
Nobody calling and not even I'm sorry, do you have
my permission to record me? Your public because you've never
said one? I can tell you, oh yes, I can
give him you want to do or nothing. You just
(07:23):
sit back there. You can know you're not going to
insult them because of an accident. We're not doing that
with your finger out. Yeah. Change when they say eight
and they talk about low I Q I use AIDS
and I'm I'm in a doctoral program. Oh my god,
lawyer too long. I don't say as you do you
(07:48):
even know what racist means? Oh my god, wait, you're white,
that's racist? Maybe phobe. We're talking about accents maybe get
the vocabulary right. When we get off this playing, I'll
meet you out there with my bar park everybody. Everybody
is unsure. I'm sorry that everybody on this plane is insufferable.
They're all horrible. Everyone is horrible. If I was the pilot,
(08:11):
I would have dove it into the ocean. I'm like, wow,
gone doing mankind of favor. Oh my gosh, where'd you
even start? She was trying to get off that she
wanted to go off the plane before every I've been,
I've seen that before. Most Most of the time, people
are nice. The only time that I ever said anything
(08:32):
on a plane when people were trying to rush forward
was actually my oldest son was with me. I can't
remember where we were going, but there was an elderly
lady who was right across the aisle from us, and
she was like really elderly and apparently like talk to
her a little bit. She her husband had passed earlier
that year. She was going to see her sister, whose
children had placed her sister in a nursing facility. So
(08:55):
I'm already like, my heart is already hurting for this lady, right,
and we helped her put her suit case up and
helped her get you know, situated, because she had she
wasn't she didn't have mobility issues, but she was like
eighty something. She was very it was she still an
independent lady. Sharpa's attack and she had every right to fly,
but you know, just have a little consideration, right, So
when the plane landed and everyone's getting up and my
(09:18):
uh son was actually making sure she got up and
had her toe bag, there was a younger woman and
then people just started coming forward and one woman literally
pushed past her to get to the front and almost
knocked this woman on the other two passengers in the seat,
and then everyone else it was like murmurh. They saw
(09:38):
this one lady going up and I'm you know, I'm
like immediately trying to help this elderly lady because the
flight attendants were in the front, they're opening the door,
they're doing they're not right there in your section, and
I'm like, this woman is gonna get trampled. And all
these people came up. So I got up and I
was like, can you please wait. You know, I'm still
trying to literally get her up from the aisle. And
this was probably like in two thousand and nine, twenty ten,
(10:02):
and they kept pushing, so finally I lost my cal
and I did yell at people. I was like, can
you guys just chill the hell out for five seconds.
I'm like, we're all going to the same place. I'm like,
can I let her get up first? Because she got
knocked down by one of you. And I was so
mad that they didn't even notice that this woman was
literally knocked over in the aisle, and I made sure
(10:26):
she got out before us, so if they were gonna
like try to run her down again, at least they
would hit me and my child first. But you know,
getting off the plane, and she was just slow getting up.
She wasn't like slow walking, it was just you know,
she's eighty something. And I was just like, and I
think the people realize what happened, and they saw her
kind of trying to get out of it, because when
(10:46):
you fall in between those aisles, you know how hard
that is to get if you're not eighties, it's like
hard to get up anyway because you're on your stuff,
you can't move the seat, you can't get up. It's awkward.
And I think they realize, oh my gosh, we got
to chill knock this little lady down and then they
were fine after that. But I literally did have to
yell at people. That's the only time I ever did.
(11:07):
Otherwise I just don't care. I'm not in a rush
to get off the plane. I always whenever we have
connecting flights. There's only been one time that it's been
close because there was nothing else. But I always give
myself tons of time if I got a connecting flight
somewhere A. I avoid connecting flights, but if I have
to take when, I always give myself tons of time.
And not everybody can prepare that, you know, plan that
far in advance, but just try. But I mean, what
(11:29):
is it going to save you a couple of minutes
to rush forward? If that? This doesn't make any sense.
But the problem with this is that I don't know
if she had a connecting flight. I don't know. She
could have been a heck of a lot nicer and
everybody else could have been. But she didn't say it
came at any point that she had a connecting flight
that she had to get to or anything like that.
(11:50):
She was just like, you know whatever, I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Lady live, If I had a connecting flight, I would say, yeah,
all right, you guys, you got me. But you know
I have a connecting flight, so that's why I got
up here.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah. Yeah, because I've been on planes where they're like,
if you don't have a connecting flight, you know, can
you let other people go forward? And it's like, I don't,
you know, I don't have an issue. I'm not in
a rush to get off the plane. And I my
husband likes to get off the plane like as soon
as possible. But I'm like, h chill, we don't got
to be in a rush. It's all good. It's all good. Seriously,
clearly some people got places they got to be. Just
(12:21):
let it go. It doesn't really doesn't really bug me.
But what bugs me is like when I see older
people like that lady. I don't know if I've ever
been that mad in public in a long time, like ever.
I was so mad for her. I just could not
believe that someone just like powered through and just not
I mean literally knocked her in between the seats like
she was butt up and her I mean almost like
(12:41):
a downward dog position. They had knocked her in that
seat and it was really awkward for her to get
up and the other seat mate passengers, the other passengers
in her row were trying to help her. I'm trying
to help her, but everybody on that plane was just
not helping the situation. Not helping the situation. Clearly she
felt entitled. She was snotty. You know the point where
(13:04):
it went really downhills, where the other lady was like,
I'm in a doctorate program. Oh my gosh, nobody cares.
Just stop. Stop, don't engage with stupid because stupid loves
it and stupid feeds off it. You do not have to.
I always tell everybody you do not have to attend
every fight to which you are invited. You do not
have to just let it. Some people just need to
(13:29):
show their backsides. Let them do it. But it just
gots it, and I'm like, there's kids on this flight.
I felt bad for the one dude who was just
sitting there eating snacks. Did you see him? He was
the only guy who would not bothering his soul on
this flight. He's sitting there just eating his snacks and
she turns around and starts at him. I was like,
that poor man, he's eating his snacks, probably eating them
(13:49):
plain whatever the plain trail mix? Did they even offer
it her? To the people with peanut allergies get upset.
I don't know. The whole thing is just just two much.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That dude was my spirit animal, right, I'm the same
way if people are are in a rush and they
just let them go. If you're in the plane, you're
not in a rush to get off the plane. Having
three or four more people in front of you as
you're heard it off the plane through the jet bridge
is not You're.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Not You're not gonna get a special award.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You're not gaining anything.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, they're not gonna they're not gonna be at the
end of the thing like you were. The first stuff.
Here's a million dollars. You guys are losers because you
didn't get off the plane first. No one's doing that.
There's not those types of rules.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Not twentieth in line. I'm fifteenth.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I'm a better person. Put that on my tombstone. First
off the plane, you know, just just but it it
just yeah. And I don't like being in crowds where
you're jostling like that. I don't, Oh man, I can't
stand it. So I will totally just chill, let them,
let it, let them go by, and then do what
I gotta do right, and because I already have I
(14:54):
pack light anyway, I already have all my stuff. I
only ever do carry on. So it's like one one
and I'm out. But they're there are a lot of
nice people that'll they'll see you, because if you don't go,
then it's like the current of people just and then
you just you know, you just sit there until the
whole plane gets off. But every now and then there
are people nice enough that are like, oh my gosh,
go ahead and go, like you're you're sitting here ready
to go. I'm just not going to like fight with
(15:14):
people to get off the plane because I don't have
that much patience in life, so I like to reserve it,
you know what I mean, for like the times that
it would really would matter, right, like picking up an
elderly woman who gets knocked over in the aisle. That's
you know, things like that. But this, I see things
like this, and it makes me not want to fly.
I already don't like it. But I don't know what
(15:36):
I'm going to do on this cruise, guys, I don't
even know. I was looking at the boat, the boat ship,
I don't know. I literally all everything I know about
getting on boats is from lakes, fishing canoes and then
having a power little power boat like in the egzoomas
and going, you know, driving around that. And I know
how to I know ties and know how to navigate.
(15:57):
I know how to read nautical maps, because there was
no way I was taking my family out in the
open ocean without ever being able to do that because insane.
But we're on a big boat and can We're going
to be in the Fjords, which is basically like there's
no ground, it's just you look around at it's water
and rocks. That's a sheer cliffs that goats couldn't even
get on, Like a goat couldn't even like one of
(16:19):
those weird ones couldn't even get up there.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It's not a carnival cruizy going on. No, no, it's
I think you'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I don't know. All I'm worried about like food poisoning
and everybody having diarrhea and like a god.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I guess those are valid concerns or.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Like what if, oh my gosh, I don't know, what
if the boat what if there's a drunk captain that
happened you guys, remember that story. What if there's a
drunk captain and they hit something and the we capsize
in a fiord and then a lockness monster from Scotland
eats us.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I don't know, before he capsize, you just drink with
him so that he's not drinking as much.
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And now all of the news, you would probably miss.
It's time for Dana's quick five.
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Karaoke Zeppelin for the rest of the show. I'm telling
you him. It's such a Then I gotta tell you
about my soft serve thing that I got. It's just
so weird here today. I have no idea what's happening?
All right? So uh, first up, Oh, Poland has reintroduced
border control border controls with Germany. Now, remember let's go
back like a year real quick, when you had different
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European Union nations that were freaking out over the absolute
deluge of people coming in from North Africa, et cetera.
And they were going in through Germany, and Germany was like,
we're not going to respect borders. We're just go ahead.
You're part of the EU. We're just gonna let everyone
filter through. So Poland has reintroduced border controls with Germany.
In a crackdown. Their president said, it's a Pole's first
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agenda and they are not messing around, Carol. Now, Rocky
ran on the slogan of Poland first, Poles First, and
defeated the more liberal candidate, and now they're taking a
very very tough approach, similar to what Italy's been doing
on immigration. So very interesting. A man's in custody after
he made a bomb threat on a plane that was
leaving Saint Petersburg in a Clearwater International airport. Yeah, you
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can't do that, right if you ever watched Meet the Parents,
because that you can't even say the word bomb, bomb, bomb,
can't even do it, you can't, But not like that.
Twenty seven year old Taj Taylor told another passenger that
his laptop was a bomb during the flight. Clearly they
didn't watch Key and Peel either, because that passenger immediately
went and told one of the airline attendants and was
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I mean you would write, you would be like this
guy's got a bomb. This is like really crazy, and
they were getting ready to take off. Guys twenty seven
years old told the passenger's laptop was a bomb, and
like I'm just saying I really were going to dract
sclounce and not talking about no Terry Bradshaw or no
Terry Clouth. You know, I'm just saying, you know, you
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gotta dract them clounces. A man setting off fireworks this
is in Boston, killed himself. I mean, I was just
telling the show. Congratulates everybody got here with all their
fingers and toes. Intact. Seven year old Robert Spagnuolo. Well,
he was apparently killed by a firework Friday night. According
to ten Channel ten Boston, it was a fireworks incident
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and it was Plymouth County District Attorney's office. They confirmed it,
and they said that he was identified and it was
directly involving fireworks. They didn't say like what. They didn't
say if it was, you know, a Roman candle or
what it was, but you just do. It was a
big one. You gotta be careful out there. I do
not want to talk about the eel one. Can we
just not? Are you gonna make me? You can read it?
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Share this one? This is yours? No I triple dog
dare you well?
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Scientists have found doctors have found a live eel swimming
in a man's abdominal cavity. It was in him swimming
around in the abdominal cabin.
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You're welcome, Okay, right, this is so gross. Uh the
world's largest time capsule. I love how that was just
the story opened in Nebraska fifty years later. Did we
know what's in it? Probably corner scar stuff. I don't
know what's in it now. They just said it was
the world's largest head pet Rocks artwork at tual Suit,
Chevy Vega, all that good stuff. There is a big
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dust up right now with the games Chip and Juanna Gaines.
I don't know if you've ever been to Waco, but
Waco is basically Magnolia territory. Like, right when you get
into the town of Waco, everything is about Magnolia. Here
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are the silos, silo there, good to see you. Here's
the it's I mean, it's Waco Magnolia. Really, it's just Magnolia.
They're probably gonna rename it. Who knows. They it's I mean,
they own the town, like they control everything in the town. Basically,
it's you know, it's a cute, cutie little town. But
they've gotten very, very famous. They have their HGTV show,
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and they've gone on to go leave HGTV and create
their own media entity, which I think has been very successful,
and there are a lot of people that are big
fans of them. And I've been down I've taken my
mom down there before and it's they've you know, they're
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very faithful people. They're Christians, they've talked about their faith.
And now they're kind of in some hot water and
it's not hot water the way you think it would be,
right because they've previously been in trouble because they've been Christians.
Now they're accused of going woke because they feature a
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same sex couple in one of their in their new series,
it's a series called Back to the Frontier on that
new network they created, Magnolia Network. Series premiered on July tenth,
and they, I guess, select the couples that are going
to be the people that are going to be on
the show, and they I haven't seen it the show,
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but they go to the Frontier. That sounds like camping.
That's too close to camping to me. And you guys
know how I feel about that sidebar if you're unfamiliar
with it. We invented the house as a people. I
don't like appropriating my ancestors way of living because we
have all of these new innovations and you know, I mean,
I hate modernity, but I love electricity and hot water,
so you know, there we go. So anyway, they have
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a Texas couple that appear on the show with their
two sons and they're they're two men, and they're one
of the three couples. They live like eighteen hundreds homestutters sidebar, sidebar. Again, sorry,
there's no social media in the eighteen hundred, so that
probably that's a big selling point for me. Would you
like to get away from influencers selling me the exact
same stuff that you can find at home goods? Yes,
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you do want to get rid of Okay, you want
to you want to get away from all the white ladies. Okay,
let's let's go be home stutters in the eighteen hundreds.
So they're getting a lot of heat because they featured
the same sex couple in their show. Is one of
these three couples, right, They're getting a lot of heat
for it. And to the point where you have the
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American Family Association that has Babylon bias. Said something about
an American Family Association. There are people that are concerned
because they expected the gains to continue to upholding biblical
values and make that part of what their work is.
And the AFA said quote, it's said disappointing because they've
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been very influential in the evangelical community. They've stood firm
on the sanctity of marriage, et cetera. Said, they're not
sure why they've reversed course, and the comments have been
very interesting. They've gotten a lot They've gotten a lot
of heat in the past. I don't know, for not
having gay couples on their shows, like when they were
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doing their house flipping, the show where they flip the houses.
Apparently they had never had like a gay couple on
their show, and they were getting heat for that. I
don't know if this is to maybe satiate some of
those criticisms, but I do think that it poses a
problem for them. And here's why I think it poses
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a problem for them, because, first off, I don't I
think that they need to handle it better on social media.
Social media is a poor place to mitigate things. Number one,
especially this nature, because everybody's immediately defensive because social media,
by entering it is a defensive place. That's why everybody's miserable.
Everybody only wants to show you the pretty curated side
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of things because everybody's so judgmental. Social media is where
people go, especially Instagram, and they want to either jealously
lurk or they want a flex. It's like one of
the two. So that's why I hate. So it's why
I'm not as active on Instagram as I used to be,
because I just can't. That's the can't. I don't know,
but they have been getting a lot of criticism, criticism
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from a lot of even pretty influential people on the right.
I think the problem that they have is when they
started their building, their their new business, when they started
in this industry, they really came out very strongly as
a Christian family and a Christian couple, and that's how
they promoted themselves. They talked about faith, they talked about family,
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family values, and their work as you know, kind of
like a mission basically like an extension of like their ministry,
so to speak. And they really leaned into that and
that's great. The problem is is there are certain demographics
that when you lean into, you can't compromise it after
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you lean into it. If you're going to go the
evangelical route, if you're going to go to the Christian route.
You cannot temper it by including like a same sex couple,
because that's not your base and and it's not your
base and be it looks inconsistent and authenticity. If there's
anything that we've learned with the advent of social media
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and oversharing, is that authenticity is king people like authenticity.
They are gravitating away from the highly stylized, curated stuff
and they just want the real thing. They want authenticity.
This looks highly inauthentic. It does kind of seem like
they're doing it and as a way to maybe insulate
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themselves against some of the criticisms that they've received. And
I'm just speculating for on my part here because I
don't know why they would do it. I mean, there's
certain things you can be as loving as you want to,
and it has nothing to do with being mean or loving.
You know a lot of Christian people they think, well,
you know, there's multiple different kinds of sin. And one
of the reasons that people you know, try to speak
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about it is because they love people and they want
people to be able to join them in eaven. And
that's you know, I remember a pen and teller, I
think pen who had said because he's an atheist, and
he had said that he actually, of all of his friends,
he loves his Christian friends. And he was saying that.
Someone asked him if he was ever annoyed that they
were trying to like witness him, and he said no,
I would be mad at them and think they were
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inauthentic if they didn't, because they if they really believe this,
and they really believe in this kind of life after death,
and why wouldn't you want someone that you care for
to take part in that? And so they're reaching out
to me so that I can experience that. And he
had said that that was you know it, really he
kind of uses that as a basis to determine someone's
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validity and their belief set. And I think that makes
a lot of sense. And I apply that to this
situation as well. And I think that Christians, especially those
who have followed the Gainses this entire time, they have
every every reason and justification to question why are you
doing this now? It would be one thing if they
started and they came out as what am I thinking of?
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Not agnostic in terms of belief, but agnostic in terms
of their content, what they talked about, their content, and
the perspective through which they wanted to show you their content,
and they didn't take that route. And that's why it
feels like a one eighty to so many of their base,
because now it kind of seems like, regardless of where
you're at, it kind of seems like they're doing it. It
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would be like, you know, for it would be like
a gay couple all of a sudden, you know, going
back on and going the other way. It just it's inconsistent.
It doesn't make sense, especially if you've built your career
on this right. It would be like that show Queer
Eye for the Straight Guy, just having like all straight
stylists or something, you know what I mean. It's just different.
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Why would you? Why would you flip like that with
your base? And I think that this is what a
lot of people are asking questions on. And I've never
met Chip and Joyna Gains. I know his sister, and
there's this. They're the sweetest family. And I don't think
that anybody's doing this or having this position or express seeing,
you know, defense of their position out of meanness or cruelty.
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But I do think that he's coming across as a
little bit too defensive on social media, and you got
to be careful with that because social media does not
allow for a lot of nuance, and when you seem
overly defensive, you seem hostile, and you really want to
avoid that, especially as it concerns this topic and the
what I get from them as they're saying that, you know, uh,
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this is it's about showing love, and it's about you know,
showing you know, including people showing love or whatever. And
this is the defense that he has given in a
couple of different tweets. I understand the Christian criticism of it,
that you don't show love by mainstreaming what the Bible
has declared to be a sin, and you don't show
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love and acceptance by making someone easy in a behavior
that goes against the scripture you claim to uphold. And
I understand the criticisms that these individuals have, and that's
not the media misrepresenting it, and it's not these people
misrepresenting their intentions. You cannot create an entire industry based
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on faith and as an extension of your faith and
then be seen as compromising it to the people who
help build your business. That's the real problem here, and
it does seem like whenever people get to a certain
point in success that that tends to happen. It is
very very hard to stand your ground, and there's all
different types of ways that people try to use to
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justify it. But it is a very unpopular thing to
say that the Bible says what it says, and that's
what the Bible says. If people have a problem with it,
they can take it up with God, not the people
who are reading the Bible and just simply repeating what
it says. It has nothing to do with the feeling
of hatred or anything else. Again, you either believe or
you don't. You don't get to pick and choose what
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parts of scripture you want to believe in what parts
of script sure you don't and everybody falls short by
the way of perfection. There's no such thing. I mean,
that's why you know churches are oftentimes viewed as a
spiritual hospital, so to speak. But I don't know what
their motivation for doing this is, but it is. It
doesn't look good and I think they need to find
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a different way to address it than what they're doing now,
because this is going to really hurt them, especially now
with younger generations being more conservative and demanding more authenticity
and consistency. This is a really bad sign. Thanks for
tuning into today's edition of Dana Lash's Absurd Footh podcast.
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