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Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika, finally speaks out and UNLEASHES on Candace Owens over making thousands off the ruthless lies about her family. Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson jealously bashes Bill Ackman and Bari Weiss’ successes over them being Jewish and calls them “dumb”.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dana Lashes of surd Truth podcast sponsored by Keltech.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's his laugh mission to make bad decisions.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's time for Florida Man, all right.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
So first up, I've seen a lot of excuses before,
but I never seen one like this. So a man
crashes a stolen BMW and then he says that he
had been teleported into it. Felicia kind of sheriff's office.
They said a man left his BMW unlocked in the park,

(00:39):
the keys in a closed cup holder, which was stupid.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
While the man was walking his dog. Why didn't you
take your keys? So dumb?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
His car was stolen. A few minutes later, it crashed
at an intersection. Witnesses got the driver out and they
told deputies. The driver, thirty six year old Calvin Johnson,
he was speeding over one hundred miles per hour.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
He said that he didn't steal the car.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
He teleported into it. Oh, it was against his will.
He just teleported right into the car. He has been
charged with grand theft of a motor vehicle and driving
with a suspended license. The footage is pretty that's the
footage he would just he said he was telling deputies
he was teleported into the vehicle. I don't think that's

(01:21):
how that works, you know. And you so, Eve, wait,
you were teleported in the vehicle and then you just
started it and drove it off. I mean you're missing
a key component here, my dude. I mean, it didn't
start by itself.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
You know. I'm just saying it did not start by itself.
So hmm, let's.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
See a coral springs me and tried to beat his
mother to death with a frying pan over a dementia diagnosis.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
According to police, this is horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh my gosh. They arrested this man. He tried to
beat his eighty two year old mother to death. Oh,
he tried to smother her as well. Keith Woodward, he
wanted to kill her because her early dementia a need
for constant assistance. I'm all, I mean, I don't believe
in abortion, but I do for this guy. I believe
in a late stage abortion. For this guy. I'm just saying.

(02:09):
He so, we got a frying pan, entered her room,
and then began beating her over the hud, trying to
kill her. A violent struggle ensued, and she apparently tried
to smother her. She ultimately escaped. So he's a big
giant pansy because he couldn't even beat up an eighty
some year old lady. I'm just not saying you should,
but good grief.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right, So he's.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Held without bond, he can't have any contact with his mother,
he has to undergo a mental health screening. I think
he's just evil of this guy. I mean, I'm not
saying that if prison justice were to occur, I would
love to donate to the commissary of anybody who might
be behind it. I'm not saying that at all, But
I'm just saying, you know, fate has a funny way
of working things out in the prison system.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
You know, let's see you.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
No, I don't want to talk about this good will one, Kane,
don't maybe do this one. This is so why of
all the places to be nasty.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Right, Well, we are run over the time, so lucky you,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
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Speaker 3 (04:21):
Welcome back to the program. Dana lash with you.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Top of this third hour, so uh the late Charlie
Cook Kirk has a book that is out. It's out
now this week and the and it was already planned.
He had already been writing it. Uh, and it was
already I think everything was pretty much done except for
like the illegal reads and all that stuff, you know,
the same old stuff I'm publishing. And so now it's

(04:44):
out and his wife, Erica Kirk is doing the the
promoting the book for him this week, and she was
on Fox recently just a little bit ago and for
the first time addressed those conspiracy theories head on. So
it's the sound by Eve been waiting for.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Listen, come after me, call me names, I don't care,
call me what you want, go down that rabbit hole, whatever.
But when you go after my family, my turning point,
USA family, my Charlie kirkshow family, When you go after
the people that I love, and you're making hundreds and
thousands of dollars every single episode going after the people

(05:27):
that I love because somehow they're in on this.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
No, you know, I have to say it. I've never
seen you like that.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
No, I'm very this is righteous anger because this is
not okay, it's not healthy. This is a mind virus. Yes,
I believe in our ju jewdicial system I do. We
have a hell of a team working on this. Excuse
my French, but this is not okay. So you want

(05:56):
to put these people back in the box where they've
been creeping for I don't care what box you're in,
but just know that your words are very powerful, and
we are human. My team are not machines and they're
not robots. They are human. We have more death threats
on our team and our side than I have ever seen.

(06:17):
I have kidnapping threats, I have you name it, we
have it. And my poor team is exhausted. And every
time they bring this back up, what are we supposed
to do relive that trauma all over again? They watched
my husband get murdered. I have no idea how I
would have reacted if I was there that day, and
think the good Lord that I did not have to

(06:37):
see that happen. But my team, they are rocked to
the core. So why every single day do they have
to be dragged through the mud, analyzed, hyper analyzed, you know,
sit in a corner and cry at the tel a position.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Sometimes you see things in life and you wonder, well,
what does this mean? Why does this person come from
this background, Why does this person like I You know,
if you're not familiar with Erica Kirk's story, she's a
pageant girl. And I'm not saying that that's not a pejorative.
I'm I'm just that's you know, she was in pageants
for a long time and I think she won a

(07:14):
number of really impressive titles. And when you start young
in that industry, that circuit, you develop the habit of
always being very put together, always being very ready, especially
at the upper levels, You're always ready. You're always put together.
Remember when people were trying to criticize her for how
she dabbed her eyes, that's literally that's a TV thing too,

(07:37):
It's pageant TV, and you do that so you don't
mess up your makeup and smear everything. And she already
had a business, Christian business, and she did apparel and
accessories before she ever met Charlie Kirk. She was a
successful She had a business in New York where it's
hard to create and maintain a business, and she was

(07:57):
already successful in her own right, and she was always
very put together because of that pageant background, right, And
when you all it made sense to me for the
first time when we were at the funeral service, because
I thought, Oh, all of these things in.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Her life have prepared her for the storm.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Isn't it interesting how when you get in the storm,
you suddenly realize how all the things in your life
prepare you for that. What she said here, and this
is the first time that she's ever addressed any of
those ridiculous conspiracy theories, and she'd I mean righteous indignation. Indeed,

(08:48):
and as I said on X, with this, she has
every right to be right. She has every right to
be angry, and she's angry in the classiest of ways.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Here.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
There's such a clear difference between her and these grifters
like Candis Owans. And as I said, Candis Owans was
an Al Sharpton protege who was doxing conservatives in twenty sixteen.
She can't compete her poorly researched conspiracy chitching theories. They

(09:27):
can't compete with this real and righteous indignation. It's just
not possible. And honestly, kudos to the way that Erica
Kirk addressed it. I don't think she needs to say
anything else to that grifter. No more pearls for swine.
After that, there was an interview that Erica Kirk gave too.

(09:50):
This was a when she started promoting again Charlie's book.
And you know that's part of the contract too, when
you come out with a book, you promote it for
that first week.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
And I know that she's probably, you.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Know, really pushing to fulfill all all of those obligations.
She was on this book summit thing. It was a
New York Times Deal book summit, and this was Wednesday
of last week, and she was asked about the Second Amendment,

(10:25):
and you know, in light of what happened to her husband,
and she outright rejected it. She said, it is not
a gun problem. It's a human, a deeply human problem.
And she said, you will always have individuals that will
always resort to violence. She says that she doesn't wish

(10:50):
what she has endured upon anyone, and she says, I
support the Second Amendment as well. That right there, telling
you what, folks, that's pretty impressive. That strength. Candice Owens

(11:11):
looks like a clown compared to that. That's that can't compete. Next,
sweep the stage, get the salmon at the Apollo, and
pull that clown off the stage. She's done, and it's
it's super powerful, super super powerful. She also said this too,

(11:34):
because you know they got this trial with this murderer
coming up. This is cut twenty four. Listen to this.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
We have a trial coming up. Unfortunately that trial is
in a long time. What I want to be mindful
of for people is that this was a murder. This
is not something that What I don't have happen is
for this to taint the jury pool. I don't. I

(12:04):
want my husband. I want justice from my husband more
than any other person on the internet, any other person
in this world that was my husband and the father
to my kids. We will make sure and we have
been turning over every single stone, going down every single lead.
So when these people say, oh, they haven't talked about

(12:26):
this or done that, how do you know you're not
in those those meetings with the attorneys and the prosecutors.
You have no idea?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
And why she just gave me an idea? What I mean?

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Honestly, can we ask if Candace Owens is trying to
help Charlie Kirk's killer by tainting the jury pool with
her stupid, poorly researched, absolute trash rat conspiracy theories. Fair,
that's a fair question.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Isn't it.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Super fair question? Maybe she can ask her gay husband
about it. Oh, don't expect, don't not a I just
get you see someone who's hurting, and I see hurting.
I see people trying to hurt hurt people, and I
want to go after the people who are trying to
hurt hurt people. I enough enough, No more pearls before swine.

(13:15):
We've had enough of the swine, have we not. We
want a fair trial. We want a trial, and we
want this guy to capital punishment. I think serves it best.
But that was powerful, it's super powerful stuff. But I
was thinking, like I said in the beginning, you know,
it's class, it's grace. And for the people who are saying, well,

(13:37):
you know, she's out there an awful lot. You know what,
let me tell you something. She is in this industry.
And because of the nature of things, where do you
think that she can go to get a job if
she needs one?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Nowhere?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's hard when you are stereotyped as a conservative, especially
in today's world. So strike while the iron's hot. Shore
up what you can for you and your family so
that you don't have to worry about that in the future.
I don't begrudge anybody that I don't. And for the
people who get mad at her because she smiles when

(14:16):
she's out in public, I feel, you know, you must
be touched by luck to not know grief. You must
not know what it's like to find just a moment
of peace in a storm where you can just smile,
you know. Apparently widows are never supposed to smile. They're
supposed to stay mired in their grief and suffering for forever.

(14:37):
That's what those people criticizing her are saying. I'm done
with that.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I'm done. I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Hear from a single fecal bird. I'm not going to
say that word I usually say, criticize in a widow.
Leave it alone, have class, leave it alone. But I
really do think that she's been prepared for this, maybe
not knowingly, her whole life. I don't know if you've
ever seen this.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Oh gosh, what is the.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Let me look this up.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
It's an m Night Shammelin movie, and it wasn't actually
one of his more well received ones, but I actually
think it's brilliant. It was called Lady in the Lake.
I'm not going to give it all away. But I
really if you've never watched it, you should because it
gets you. On one of our interviews, she mentioned Namayah, which, interestingly,

(15:30):
that was my morning devotional, And that's odd now that
I think about it. She mentioned Namiah when she was
on Fox earlier as an example of teamwork, and I'm like,
holy kyw, that literally was my devotional this morning. It's
very near my esque Lady in the Lake, and you
have a group of people living in an apartment complex

(15:50):
dealing with a supernatural event, and every single person has
their own eccentricities, and in the end of the movie,
it has the same revelations like the usual suspects, you know,
when the detective realized who Kaiser Soose actually is. You
have that level of revelation towards the end of this
movie where you see a great puzzle being placed piece

(16:12):
by piece together before you by all of these people's,
these apartment complex dwellers, all of their little eccentricities, each
of them. You realize now that there was design in it,
that there was a design in the way that they
were all living here, There was design in the way
that they have all of their little eccentricities. There was
a design in the way that they do everything that
they do, and they've come to know everything that they know,

(16:34):
and they have the relationships with each other that they have,
and it is a really humbling, awesome thing when you
realize that. And you look at this at the end
of this film, and I in a lot of these instances,
I see the same things. I see the same thing
in this. There's certain things that happen in life, and
it's always usually something tragic, but it is in the

(16:59):
victory of overcoming the tragedy that you see these things
come into play. And that's what I see in this.
It's a you should watch that. It's a it's a
when was it twenty twelve? Maybe Lady in the Lake
m Night Shamal And it's good. Bryce Dallis Howard is
in it. There's some really good actors in it. And
it wasn't one of his most celebrated ones, but I

(17:19):
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Speaker 4 (18:25):
And now all of the news you would probably miss.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
It's time for Dana's Quick five.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Can I just say the song that we came in with.
You can't listen to it if you're online because we
don't have the licensing for that, but terrestrially, it's steel
as weal stuck in the middle with you. It's one
of my favorite songs because it's one of my favorite
scenes in all of cinema from Reservoir Dogs. And I mean,
I just feel that scene so much sometimes, and I

(18:51):
got it's so amazing. I just see it and I
get warm fuzzies and I'm like, what, It's an amazing.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Scene, all right? So, uh well, I'm gonna die.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Less than seven hours of sleep is linked to shorter
life expectancy across America.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
We're all gonna die. Well, those of us who the
people who are like I slept nine hours. You're a Martian.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Sleeping fewer than seven hours per night is linked to
a shorter life expectancy across all in the eyes.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Wait, you don't believe it.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I'm a victim.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
You're a victim. I'm actually surprised about you, because I
just I don't know. I thought you would be one
of the people who's like, aren't garmer you in hours? No,
I don't get eight hours.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Oh god, I dream about eight hours.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I don't think I could sleep for eight hours if
I wanted to. I don't think I can sleep past seven.
I think it's a thing. But they said sleeping fewer
than seven hours per night is linked to shorter life expectancy.
Sleep in sufficiency ranked as the second strongest predictor of
reduced life expectancy.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
And there you go, we're all gonna die. Well, no,
I mean it's I do you just know that you?
I think that people need different amounts of sleep. Different
people need different amount Like Trump doesn't sleep more than
five hours a night because he's also a Martian, and
the people who sleep more than eight hours. I don't
understand you people. You guys are like, you know, hibernating bears.
I don't get that. I got to hit like six

(20:12):
seven maybe? Oh my gosh, did I.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Just do that? On?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
All right, we're done? Cut the camera. We are so done.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
How did that even happen? I swear to you that, Okay,
let's just move on here. Police are swapping suspect sketches
for AI. I feel like this is going to go poorly.
You think they started in an Arizona and they said

(20:40):
the aim Like, for instance, they had one image out
and it said this AI image is based on victim
witness statements, doesn't depict a real person. See, I feel
like you need it to depict a real person, though,
Like what how is it?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I mean, it's no less of a sketch.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
It's actually probably a better way to do it.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't know how I feel about that.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Centuries old payment method could disappear this week after pennies
are retired.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
What do uh?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
They said it hurts the old people that they checking
services could be winding down. I haven't used I haven't
written a check. Everything's auto. I have not, and then
I co check it every month. I have not written
a check in forever.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
What do you mean they want you to go digital
with everything?

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:22):
That I obsess over everything.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
See, they're getting rid of checks. I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
I'm like Mick Jagger with my finances like that. I
just I want to know everything. You know, everything has
to be like a promisory note.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
You want to just promise to pay some money money?

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Do you like the checks you got to carry?

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Like it?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
I don't like carrying a big bag you got to carry. Well,
I know that the grandparents are gonna be upset over
this one. I mean in our family, probably your family too.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Send it.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Democrats have introduced a bill to block Trump from putting
his face on the dollar coin.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Is that a thing they need to be worrying about
right now? I mean, I don't know if you guys
have seen some of the stuff that's been happening in
this nation, but I don't know. It feels like something else.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Ooh ooh.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Archaeologists found a cube shape human skull in Mexico. Now
that's probably you know what I think about this stuff.
I get money python about it. Like what if somebody
wrapped their head with you know, cotton or something to
make it shape like that because they thought it was attractive,
and then here we are all these years later.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Oh, it's a new brand of person.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
They're trying to figure it out at Mexico's National Institute
of Anthropology and History. It's a middle aged dude, so
they think that he actually molded his skull that way.
So thank heavens for some brains there. We got more
in store. Stay with us, Welcome back to the program,
Dana lash with you. I haven't kept track with all
of groper ink lately unless it just like comes up

(22:44):
into my timeline. And I think this is for the
people who are super hyper online because the rest of you,
who are normal people with all of your brain cells,
you don't God love you for holding down the same line,
holding it down like.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
We need you, text you at all costs.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
So I haven't really been following a lot of the
graper ink stuff lately, so I haven't been able to
keep track of who is responsible for killing Charlie Kirk.
You know, he's had got a book that has been
planned for some time that just came out, and he

(23:22):
his wife, I know, is doing the promo tour for it,
which can't be easy.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
But I'm looking. People have been very helpfully keeping track
because you know I can.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I just say I think and I haven't been talking
a lot about Candice Owens because I just think that
it's grift ory trash. I mean, I just I don't
elevate someone who is a protege of Al Sharpton, who
as recently as twenty sixteen was literally had founded a
website doxing conservatives and going after people, and then when
they realized, you know, you can make all this money
being a Republican, then decided to become a Republican and

(23:56):
apply the grift there. And that's all fact. By the way,
that's all facts. Some of y'all got taken in, I know,
but if you're keeping track, apparently she has accused everybody
from the French government, the French Foreign Legion, the thirteenth
Brigade specifically Israel, Israel Operatives Net, and Yahoo himself. Let's

(24:17):
see GIGN, Jewish donors, the US government, the FEDS, the FBI,
Deep States, CIA, Turning Point USA, his own wife, Erica Kirk, Blake,
NEF pastor, Rob McCoy, Josh Hammer, Freemason's Yahoo like the website, okay,
the Bolsheviks, Egypt. I mean, the list is lengthy. Oh wait,

(24:39):
that's right. The latest was the US military. Isn't that
the thing that came out yesterday?

Speaker 3 (24:43):
She has no clue. She has no clue.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I mean, honestly, Candice Owens has made more bank off
of Charlie Kirk getting killed than I think anybody else.
It looks suspicious, Quite honestly, it looks super suspicious. I've
never seen anybody try to lift themselves up on some bite.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Using someone else's corpse. More more than the gun control stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
This is like, I haven't even seen gun control advocates
stand on dead bodies as much as I've seen Candice
Owen stand on dead bodies to try to gain advantage
for herself and elevate herself as she is on the
legacy of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
And that's fact.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
So the next in the whole Graper establishment, I came
across this SoundBite, and it does it pains me to
say this because we were always friendly. I would never
consider as like best friends or anything, but I've known
I did. I used to do election coverage with Tucker
before he had his own show at Fox. I remember
when he had three million dollars from Foster Freeze, who

(25:44):
I met, knew, and he was fantastic. This was back
in the day when Daily Caller first was created. Tucker
got money from Foster Freeze, created a Daily Caller, and
then now he has this Tucker Carlson Network, which was
founded with muzzle money, which is true. I mean, I'm
not saying that as a pejorative, It's just true. I think,
you know, if you want to talk about dual loyalties
or something like that, you know, I think it's important

(26:06):
when you have millions of dollars that create the company
that you run, you know, I think there's kind of
a question is to dual loyalty and something like that,
since that's a favorite topic amongst the grapery establishment. So
I saw this video fly past me, fly on my
timeline on X and this is what cut?

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Is this?

Speaker 4 (26:25):
This?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
This cut? Eleventy million? Ye yeah yeah yeah, so thank you?
So this is he's doing?

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Is this not when he was speaking in Doha, right,
This was like some other forum and he was asked
about Bill Ackman and people like Barry Wise, Bill Ackman
and and you know Ackman, he's this hedge fund manager.
He's a billionaire, super smart dude. His wife, I think,

(26:59):
by the way, is like friends with Brad Pitt. There
was like this rumor fun fact, his wife is beautiful.
There was this rumor that his wife was like Brad
Pitt's girlfriend for a while, and it's just she's like
this professor.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
She's an art professor, super pretty.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
And everyone was like, had all these rumors about Brad
Pitt and Nary Oxman and its just Bill Ackman's wife.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
They're all friends anyway. So they're on.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Stage and he's talking about I guess the media landscape
in this forum, and this is what he had to say.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Listen, oppressive like Bill Ackman, same thing. Bill Ackman's worth
like eight billion dollars or something. It's fine. I don't
care if Bill Ackman whatever Bilackman does. By no mil Backman.
He's kind of dumb. He's not ever created anything. He's
totally noncreative. How do these people wind up running our
biggest institutions? And the reason that's significant is because if
you pay close enough attention and you realize that the

(27:56):
people running everything are stupid, then you think, well, actually,
the system is truly rigged on behalf of people who
do not deserve these positions at all. It's not just
that I disagree with Barry Weiss or she's calling me
names or calling her names or whatever. It's like in
no fair system and no meritocracy with Barry Weiss rise
above secretary Like actually, and I mean that, I've been

(28:18):
in this business, my hole. I've been in this business
since Barry Weiss was breastfeeding. Okay, there's no world in
which Barry Weiss rises to the top of a news
network except a rigged world.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, I mean, I guess he just can't imagine where
anybody would rise up to be the top of a
news agency.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Without Muslim money. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I mean, I'm just you know, thinking out loud here.
I thought that was a very odd thing for him
to say. He sounds resentful and better and that's not
a good look for anybody. Barry Weiss was at the
New York Times, and she was very good at what
she did, and she was very I mean she she's
more of a moderate conservative, but she made them all
look like, you know, straight up Bolsheviks over at the

(28:57):
New York Times, and she ended up being run out
because she was too conservative for the old Gray Lady.
And then she created the Free Press and then that
got purchased and she's made some really smart decisions. The
stuff that she does gets a lot of traction. People
are really sharing their articles there. I mean, you can
see the traffic online. And she didn't have to go

(29:18):
out and get Katari money or get Iranian money either.
Just a really quick fun thing here if you wanted
to look at it. Because it's also ancestual. So a
lot of the money that came into creating the Tucker
Carlson networkers from Ohmied Malik, who is Pakistani and Iranian
and he created he has a capital a firm that's

(29:41):
called seventeen eighty nine Capital, and I think Don Junior
actually just joined and it's part of the Rockbridge network.
He created it along with other people including Rebecca Mercer,
et cetera. They raised, they raised a lot of money,
and he's been behind a lot of the funding for
the Tucker Carlson network.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
And also what is it that nicotine pouch thing, the
AUP thing. No, but no, it's like that. Yeah, it's
like the new thing.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
And they apparently they're part of that cash Patel apparently
co founded or co created that with with Tucker Carlson,
which I think is weird.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's just also incestuous.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
But he got a lot of money from a foreign
government or from for he got a lot of foreign money,
in fact, a lot of payments through this and I'm
looking at I mean, Axios had a piece on it.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
But also it's just.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Open records, you know, I mean, there's you can go
to open secrets and you can run all of the
how the money shifts, and you can research it all dire.
For instance, some of the payments for acquiring different things
for his company. We're run through a Katari state investment entity.
It's the al Udid media fund. That's where all of

(30:54):
the accusations about Katari money come from. And I mean,
it's sounds like it's part I mean, it almost sounds
like it's part of like a government coordinated media laundering campaign. Honestly,
that's kind of what it sounds like. So I don't
know if any of that's ever been disclosed publicly or discussed,
but I just think that when you have things like
that in your financial portfolio, maybe you should tone down

(31:17):
your resentment of other people's success before you start lobbing
bombs at them because they're Jewish. Because let's be honest,
what do Bill Ackman and Barry Wise have in common?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
They're Jewish?

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Right, they're the quote unquote homiceaters in that Tucker Carlson
talks about.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Right, Isn't that what that is? I mean, it seems
like the only objection is that they're Jewish. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I feel like if Israel had given him money then
he would be like singing the praises of Israel or something.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I don't know. I just can't. I can't explain it.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
It's very difficult when you see someone that you thought
you at least kind of knew act in a way
that is completely contrary to everything that you actually initially
assumed about them. It's just it's to say that these
that these people are dumb. And Bill Ackman is not
a dumb guy. He is very very smart financially. He's
made a lot of uh, really good decisions, some which

(32:13):
might have seemed really risky at the time, but he
made he knew what he was doing.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
He's made a lot of really good decisions.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
And he he's he identified undervalued assets and he built this,
you know, this company, and Barry Weiss did something similar
with a media entity. So to sit here and say
that they are dumb and then to try to like
use your age over it that she was breastfeeding when
he was getting started.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yes, and she didn't have to take Katari money.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I mean, she didn't have to be in the pocket
of a government administration in order to find success. She
didn't have to sell out in order to find success.
She didn't have to turn and start you know, repeating
you know, really you know, weird rhetoric in order to
try to get a slice of the digital audience.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Pie.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
It just seems resentful and bitter, and you know, Honestly,
I think that was that sounded silly and emotional. He
sounded I mean, he sounded like an emotional woman. Well,
since she was breastfeeding, I've been out here and she's
further than you.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
So what does that say?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I mean, that's kind of a self owned Is it
not like what happens with people? This is why I
hate DC, and Lorraine reminds me too, what is this?
Is this what we're talking about when it is is
Tucker hating America because he's criticizing other people because people

(33:36):
who criticize Tucker are accused of hating America. But remember
that only goes one way. He can not even criticize.
I don't even think either of those are fair criticisms.
To call them criticisms means that I'm accepting that they
have some form of logic, and I just don't. It
just sounds resentful and overemotional. It seems like he's violating

(33:57):
the rule that he expects everyone to follow when it
concerns him, but he doesn't want to follow it when
it concerns everywhere else. Is no enemies to the right thing.
It seems like he's got a lot of enemies and
they're all Jewish, at least in his eyes. I find
that incredibly sad. I mean, we live in an age
where people can create media companies right and left, and

(34:17):
you know, and they don't have to necessarily disclose everything,
and he's using his platform to do more to tear
down the right than anything I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
I don't see any of the thing. If he hasn't
been talking about any of.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
These elections, Tucker Carlson hasn't had hasn't been talking about
any of these special elections. He's not talking about redistricting,
he's not talking about the lay of the land. He's
having Nazi twinks on his show, and he doesn't have
the balls to push back and actually ask serious questions.
And all of the people who are just desperate to
be in business with him, none of them have the

(34:49):
balls or the spines to point this out because they're terrified,
terrified over jeopardizing business relationships. They don't want to jeopardize
their ad network, they don't want to jeopardize any kind
of investment. They don't want to jeopardize any kind of association,
professional association that elevates them in the digital sphere. So
they say nothing and they pretend they don't see it,

(35:13):
They say nothing. But this has done more to cause
problems on the right than anything that I've seen from
the left to date. We're all agreed that the left
is crazy, but now what I see are people. It's
interesting because it's like right after Cutter gets involved, and
you know, Cutter's been spending a ton of money. We're
not supposed to talk about that. We're supposed to obsess

(35:33):
and have a fetish with Israel and APAC even though
they donate a pittance, they spend a pittance on lobbying
compared to Cutter, And it's very easy to find these
monetary amounts on this thing called the Internet. But we're
not supposed to talk about that. We're only supposed to
talk about the Jews, and we're supposed to talk about

(35:54):
APAC bad. But we're supposed to celebrate cutter work towards
partner ships with Cutter. Have we forgotten history? Have we
forgotten the point of all of it?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
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