September 11, 2025 • 31 mins
Dana Loesch reflects on her memories of Charlie Kirk and shares how his motivation was rooted in good will while willing to have honest conversations with the other side. Meanwhile, Dana observes 24 years since the terrorist attacks on 9/11.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dana Lashes of surd Truth podcast sponsored by Keltech.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is these are the times it gets really hard
to be in broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And we've covered a lot of these, you know stories,
We've covered a lot of whether it's mass casualty incidents
or uh uh, you know news, you know, tragedies involving politicians.
And you know, I was on air to talk when
we lost our late friend Andrew Breitbart. And this is
(00:32):
difficult because you know, we all know Kirk. We my
husband and I have known Charlie Kirk since he was
a teenager, since he was in you know, I think
seventeen or eighteen years old. And I know we were
one of the early supporters of Turning Point USA because
there hadn't been up till that point, you know, aside
(00:52):
maybe from yaff a group that was focusing strictly on
college kids, and we needed more because you know, the
halls of academ or where these battles are really originating.
I mean, look at every nation that has descended into tyranny.
I mean it all starts with you know, in colleges
and in Russia with Marxism, in China with the Color Revolution,
(01:15):
all of that, and it was needed. And we knew
him for a long time. Didn't agree with him on everything,
but who cares. Who grees with anybody one hundred percent
on everything. I think the point of this, and I
wrote in substack last night, is that out of everyone
in this industry, and there's some really ghoulish people in
this industry, and there's some really bad actors that are
(01:37):
on the right, he was who he was publicly privately
that's really rare. I can't tell you, guys how rare
that is. He was the exact same person privately as
he was publicly, and he was very consistent, and he
(02:04):
really did care about what he was doing. He initially
got launched by another great guy, Foster Freeze, who I
had the pleasure of having dinner with one time. He
was a very nice guy. And Charlie left college and
then basically became ten times greater than I think he
would have been have had he stayed in college. And
(02:27):
so it's it's difficult because you still have to go
on television and you still have to talk about it,
even though you know this person and you met their
wife and you've seen their kids, and you don't like
to see this befall anyone, especially someone who was the
nice guy.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
He was the nice guy.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
When everyone says we need to have a national conversation,
Charlie was having it and they shot him for it.
So I don't know what you're expecting to hear from
me today, if you're expecting to hear some words of
like wisdom or calm or restraint, but I really don't
(03:11):
have a spirit of peace right now, So I'm going
to tell you that. And when you see good people,
for no good reason mow down the way he was,
there is a rage. And I got to tell you
as well, I think that it is a righteous rage.
And I'm already tired of seeing these people preening and
(03:34):
giving lectures on how they think you should react and
when and how you should express anger. Let people have
their righteous rage, because it's deserved. Some of us have
been doing this for fifteen and twenty years, and we've
been down this road so many times, and we've heard, oh, well,
we need to have a national conversation. The right is
(03:55):
the only one having the conversation. And as much as
people don't want to put this in the categories of
right and left, and I'm not eager to do it,
but I'm also not going to sit here and gaslight
my audience for the purpose of some BS fairness that, oh,
well this you know, it's both sides. We're not doing
both sides of them, because there's one side that's doing
the killing. There's one side that has consistently done the killing.
(04:17):
And for just purposes of understanding that, we're going to
dive into that and I'm going to give you the
history of it here, but there's one side that's been
doing it. Today, we're going to talk about some of
the media response, some of the lawmaker response, and can
I just say the overture in all of this was
Luigi Mangeon. If people didn't think that it was disturbing
(04:41):
to watch swaths of the American citizenry celebrate a guy
who in cold blood shot a man to death in
the streets of New York over health insurance. He was celebrated,
I mean they did. They gave him the Boston bomber treatment.
That's that's what this is right now, That's what all
(05:03):
of this it's infuriating. So we're going to dive into
all of this, and we have my friends Kurt Schlichtor
We're also going to talk with David Bozel from Media
Research Center because it is about as bad as you
would think. The left on Blue Sky apparently was horrific.
The latest that we know is apparently in the Wall Street.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Journal confirmed this.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It was a Mauser thirty out six and I thought
originally it kind of sounded like that because of the
heavy It was kind of hard to tell from the
audio because of the acoustics of the area in which
he was speaking, But it sounded more. It sounded not
like a twenty two, that's for sure. And we have
a Mauser. I have this rifle. It's a bolt action
(05:46):
one and one spent round was in the chamber. And
apparently the shell casings had engraved trans Tifa stuff carved
on them. That is some of the latest that was
confirmed earlier by the Wall Street Journal, and they're investigating it.
Of course, the ann said federal officials probe rifle and
(06:08):
AMMO scrolled with cultural phrases. They weren't cultural phrases. It
was the trans Tifa call to war. We're not going
to We're not letting the media get away with us.
We're not letting lawmakers say, oh, well, the people who
are being killed and shot at, need to tone down
their rhetoric. No, maybe it's the left. Joe Biden once
(06:31):
called Republicans verbatim an existential threat to the security of
this country. How long do you think that these politicians,
these lawmakers can say this type of stuff, these things
before somebody's like, well, you know what, I'm convinced they
really aren't an existential threat, So I guess I should
react to it.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Words aren't violence. Violence is violence.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
But I will be damned if I am lectured to
by anybody who has been applauding that kind of language
that we have heard from the left for the past
thirty forty fifty years not doing it. So it's a
hard show today because, like I said, I do not
(07:17):
have a spirit of peace, and I really ultimately the
irony in that is that that's kind of how I
think it should be approached. Because Charlie Kirk only ever
wanted to go and have a conversation with people. My gosh,
you went to college campuses and he smiled about it,
and he never got any aggressive beyond level one sassy,
and he was super nice. He was the moderate, He.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Was the nice guy.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
He was the one that had good intentions, and his
gestures were rooted in good faith. And you have people
out there that are so hyperbolic that everybody who disagrees
with him is Hitler, everyone who disagrees with him is
a Nazi, Everyone who disagree agrees with them as a fascist,
everyone who disagrees with them is a racist.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
These people who.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Sodomized the English language with their hyperbole, they are the
ones who cannot live with a difference in idea. He could,
and he went into the lions Den and he calmly
and peacefully debated with a motivation that was rooted in
(08:29):
goodwill and a knowledge base that was moored in fact.
So spare me the national conversation, because we tried it,
and now you see what happened as a result. Here's
(08:49):
another thing that I'll caution people, everybody who's lecturing, we
need restraint, we need calmness. I don't discount that, but
I don't feel it in my heart. I really don't.
I mean, I told Jesse Waters last night, it's really
hard to be a Christian right now. The discipline required
(09:10):
to walk that walk of discipleship is very difficult right now,
and it's not made easier by Charlatan's in office on MSNBC,
on CNN, who have refused any accountability for where they
(09:30):
have driven us with this logic. If they bring a
knife to the fight, we bring a gun. Warning Cavanaugh,
you guys remember all of this. We'll play the hits
for you here. No, we've been having a national conversation
about this for quite some time. It is a war
(09:52):
of good and evil. I don't even think it's a
war between right and left anymore. I think we need
to stop dressing up evil with distraction.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It is evil. It's not political. It's evil.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
This is a battle between good and evil, and it
doesn't just take place in this plane. So we have
some things to break down. But I just wanted to
kind of let you know my perspective on this. I
don't know what approach you're expecting me to have, but
as I said, I do not have a spirit of
(10:25):
peace right now at all.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Jesse made the remark to me, we've been down this
road a couple of times before, and we have and
you kind of get burned by it and tired of
seeing the double standards, and you're tired of seeing people
who are insistent on dragging American society right to the
precipice of disaster and then completely refuse any all accountability. Oh,
(10:49):
let's just move along. To get along, we should be
able to talk. Well, that's what we've been saying for
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Speaker 3 (12:02):
Now all of the news you would probably miss. It's
time for Dana's Quick five.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Some of the other news we're going to get into
how the FBI has released a photo for the person
of interest as well, and some eyewitnesses were saying that
it looked coordinated, and we're going to dive into all
of that coming up. Just an fyi. Some of the
other headlines that are making news. Findings by NASA's Mars
Rover provide strong hints yet of potential signs of ancient life.
(12:28):
This is something that we touched on yesterday. They're a
little bitty tiny things, so that doesn't count to me.
Spain is set to introduce strict new country wide bands
at beaches, restaurants and bars. This is one of the
things reported by the Sun. They're banning smoking in Spain,
which is weird because I've never met a Spanish person
(12:50):
from Spain that doesn't smoke, So I don't know how
they're going to live through this, but they said they're
banning smoking at all outdoor venues and that means outdoor restaurants, beaches,
terrace and it includes both east cigarettes vapes as well
as regular cigarettes. So that's something that they're getting ready
to implement, if that's important to you. NYPD is boosting
presidents at critical locations. This was all in place ahead
(13:12):
of our observation of nine to eleven. Today, a huge
fire erupted at a Paris restaurant as riot cops are
battling the block everything protesters, with more than three hundred
and fifty people arrested.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
This is what how.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Many weeks now that this has been going The French
are very good at rioting, but they've made hundreds of
arrest They've been trying to disrupt transportation links and bring
the country to a halt. There's a lot of photos
of the destruction and the fires and riots. So again
that's going into like what a couple of weeks now
and the Secret Service missed a loaded glock in a
(13:47):
bag at Trump's golf course.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
How it's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's
time for Florida.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Man, Well, this is about dogs. A Florida woman bit
a pit bull to save her dog during an attack
in Orlando. She's seventy seventy years old. Is that Shirley
pass a manic sad? She was leaving the store the
other day a pit bull bolted towards her fourteen year
(14:20):
old dog, Sparky latched onto him. She said, we ended
up on the ground. She weighs ninety pounds. She used
her cane in her hands and then she bit the
pit bull on the back of its.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Neck, and apparently it worked.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
For a guy to grab the pit bull and pull
it away and then walk off with the dog on
a leash. So she says that her dogs survived the attack,
but is still shaken.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Oh my gosh. See, I'm just saying, this.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Is why you go out you carry a judge, just
saying little tars, just saying, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So this this is a weird headline. Other one here,
this is weird.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
This is has to do with a felon who was
found homeless with a bunch of baby sea turtles and
also his half dressed girlfriend. I don't know. I don't
write these stories. This is literally This stuff just actually
happens Miami Dade. This uh happened in Miami, happened in
actually Miami Beach, Florida. A forty four year old convicted felon.
(15:21):
He's been in and out of prison for the past
like ten years. He's got tons of charges because of
baby sea turtles. So he the last time he was
in jails because he had tons of cocaine and he
was going to distribute.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Then he got released.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Then he's back in prison now because he attacked a
woman that he had been in an on and off
relationship with and while he hit her, injured her, and
then he got busted when police arrived, also in possession
of a ton of baby sea turtles.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Out of all the random things.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
This is like playing like mad libs with these Florida
man stories, like oh baby sea turtles, why not? Anyway,
he's going to court, he's going to be a rain
this week, so you can't make this stuff up. That's
very very interesting. Let's see here we also have a
cap Coral man who was accused of stealing forty thousand
dollars about eighty five to ninety pairs of Nike Jordan's
(16:15):
I mean, are they Yeah, that's a great question, are
they so?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
He yeah, took a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
He made multiple trips through a rear door, used bolt
cutters to force entry into this storage unit of the store.
He's in custody in Lee County jail, made multiple trips.
He looks like he does not care in his Lee
County Sheriff's Office mug shot. And apparently I guess he
had some help. There was a female that there were
three suspects in total, but he was identified. They also
(16:44):
took two signed sports jerseys, a red Nike Jordan golf
bag with tailor made clubs. It's five hundred dollars, and
then all of the Nike Jordan's sneakers, valued at forty
thousand dollars. I cannot even believe that like that many.
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I want you all to know.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
That American today, American today.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Is on bended knee in prayer for the people who
lives were lost here, for the workers who work here,
for the families who wore This nation stands with the
good people of New York City and New Jersey and
Connecticut as we mourn the loss of thousands of our citizens.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I can hear you, I can hear you. The rest
of the world hears you, and the people and the
people who knock these buildings down will hear all of
(17:56):
us soon.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Nine to eleven, All these years later, what a still
a dark day in American history, and even darker still
considering the events of yesterday. Welcome back to the program
Dana Lash with you. You can watch us do the radio
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Speaker 3 (18:23):
George W.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Bush released his statement yesterday saying, quote, today a young
man was murdered in cold blood while expressing his political views.
It happened on a college campus, where the open exchange
of opposing ideas should be sacrisynct. Violence and vitriol must
be purged from the public square. Members of other political
parties are not our enemies. They are our fellow citizens.
(18:46):
May God bless Charlie Kirk and his family, and may
God guide America towards civility. You know how how often
and for how long he was called Bush Hitler. Bush
was called Hitler.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He was called a Nazi.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I used to crash protests and disrupt the television. The
shots of television interviews for leftists, and I was at
one and they were burning him an effigy, and they
gave him a Hitler stash. Someone made the suggestion, maybe
if you'd bother to push back more when they called
you Bush Hitler, that we wouldn't be where we are now.
(19:26):
And that gave me pause, because I feel like the
country is at an interesting crossroad and I understand, believe me,
the responsibility and the weight that comes with it when
you're on air and you talk to you know, millions
of people every single day across the country. And the
(19:49):
reason I say that I just still have such a
spirit of anger right now is because couldn't you argue
that we did then? I thing for a long time
since the w Bush hears, I mean, how did George W.
Bush respond? Some of the biggest criticisms that my side
(20:10):
had of him is that he didn't push back enough
when he was disparaged, and not just when he was disparaged,
when his voters were disparaged, when Republicans were called little
Nazis for supporting him. I mean, a lot of people
are too young to remember, or maybe they weren't involved
enough to have.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Realized that it was really bad. Under George W. Bush
too with the left really.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Bad, and in some instances it's gotten worse, and in
some instances it's been the same. And where did his
ignoring of all of it get to any get anywhere?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Where did that? Where did that go?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
After a ball field of congressional members were fired into
by Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer, and Ryan Paul was about
beaten to death in his front yard, you know, people
weren't out there rioting. They weren't out you. You didn't
see Republicans riot yesterday. You didn't see conservatives go through
(21:15):
the streets and burn down houses, raid foot lockers.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You didn't see any of that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I ask, all of these years, it seems like
we've been the calm, cool ones, and it's insane that
people have to have go through everything that they have
to go through just to speak on a college campus.
And all of any of us conservatives, every single one
(21:44):
of us who are in media, have had to deal
with security. We've had death threats simply because we speak
ideas that are out of agreement or alignment with the left.
I have never felt, in any ways truly violent towards
the leftist for simply them expressing a different idea.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I don't know it's because we're more evolved or what.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I liked Bush's statement, but I also wonder haven't we
been always the civil ones? And I think it has worked.
And I think, yes, you get more flies with hunting
than I get all of that. But I think it's
easier for people who have never had to have a
(22:33):
security detail to simply walk into a college campus to
say that. I think it's easy for people who've never
had anybody fly halfway across their country the country with
a big suitcase enough to fit a dismembered person in
pills and try to break into someone's house, it's easy
for them to say that, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Now to this.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
It's just it's the nation's still processing all of this,
and it hasn't been helpful for some of the elected
officials for some of the things that we've heard. I
wanted to talk to you for a moment about the
insane amount the history of left wing terrorism, of left
(23:19):
wing violence it has long been with us. I mean,
going back to the weather Underground. People will remember the
weather Underground, right, I think they do. You had the
Weather Underground, they committed over gosh, I don't even know
how many over almost three thousand bombings, I think it was.
(23:39):
I was looking at my notes here. The number of
bombings that they had committed was quite large.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
They had a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I think it's actually worse than what some have been
sharing on social media. There were like what two thousand,
five hundred bombings. They did five bombings a day during
an eighteen month period between nineteen seventy one and seventy two,
and over the next decade they had. It was a
very far leftist organization, and in fact, you'll remember the
head of Weather Underground, Bill Ayers, launched Barack Obama's campaign
in his living room Brennetette Dorn. So, yeah, there's a
(24:14):
big history there. You had the Black Liberation Army, they murdered,
dozens of police officers assassinated. You had a bunch of
other Hispanic separatists you've had. I mean, it goes on
and on and on. I mean there's a I think
there's like a book on it, like Days of Rage
or something like that. I mean, we're not even getting
into some of this other stuff. It's just it's insane,
(24:37):
the history of leftist violence. You had SDS students for
a democratic society. That's where that they came out of.
The Weathermen came out of that group. And then you've
got to go all the way up to modern era
and go to Occupy Wall Street and look at Black
Lives Matter, and look at the Chaz chop neighborhoods. Look
(24:58):
at the guy who tried to asassinated a bunch of
Congressional members, Steve Scalis barely escaped with his life, the
armed guy who tried to go and assassinate Supreme Court
Justice Kavanaugh. Interestingly, right after Chuck Schumer. I'm gonna play
this again, right after Chuck Schumer, what audio SoundBite is this?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Thank you? After he said this, listen.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
See that was after Roby Wade and boy, oh boy,
did he really And.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Then the guy was caught trying to get to Kavanaugh's house.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I mean, there's been so many you had Antifa, I
mean we've all seen Antifa. There have been so many far,
so many leftist, violent leftist groups. And then don't forget
the two Jewish staffers that were embassy staffers that were
killed in front of the Capital Jewish Museum in DC,
(26:05):
and then the targets to just regular, average, everyday conservatives
that go out to college campuses and speak, or that
go on television or that have podcasts or whatever. It's
really unbelievable. And it's always one way. It's always one way.
Someone said, oh, well, you know George Floyd. You know,
(26:28):
I guess you guys don't care about his kids. He
had kids too well, to be fair, George Floyd didn't
care about his kids. So you're not comparing those two.
Spare us this what about ism, because there isn't any.
It's actually a hell of a lot worse than the
history of leftist violence. And people kind of realize democrats
(26:48):
want so badly to go back to nineteen sixties radicalism.
They really do. And of course then you've got the
violent attacks on ice. Don't forget that, goodness, the attacks
on ice, the attacks on law enforcement, how the police
were being attacked.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I mean, we could go on and on.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
You guys know this because you've been living it for
the better part of ten plus years. This is who
they are. And all of their later calls for unity
have always been lies. They've always been false. I don't
believe them. I don't believe them when they say they
(27:31):
want unity. I don't believe them when they condemn yesterday's assassination.
I don't believe a single one of them. They're all liars.
Not a single one of them will turn to their
party and say stop looting foot lockers. Every time someone
tries to commit suicide by cop or they turn around
(27:51):
and say stop rioting simply because a conservative went to
your college campus. When is the last time you saw
Gavin Newsom say that, or Elizabeth Warren say that, JB.
Pritzgoor or any of these Democrat lawmakers. They never have.
It's always well. Trump should watch his tone. Trump should
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watch his tone. It's unbelievable. I wanted to play this.
This is audio Sunbay thirty three. This is probably one
of my favorite video excerpts of Kirk.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Listen to this.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Spaf I go around universities and have challenging conversations and
because that's what is so important to our country is
to find our disagreements respectfully, because when people stop talking,
that's when violence happens.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I've never seen someone je.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Well, it's a growing trend because people like me are
facing violence assaults the left. Yes, the campus Antifa. I've
been stormed out of restaurants, I've been assaulted publicly, multiple
death threats. Okay, so what's your drawing. There's more people
that agree with me than some people would actually believe,
and they come out of the woodwork when I do
(29:06):
stuff like this. We record all of it so that
we put on the internet so people can see these
ideas collide. When people stop talking, that's when you get violence.
That's when civil war happens, because you start to think
the other side is so evil and they lose their humanity.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
It's about dehumanizing one side to the point where it's
easy to commit violence because you've stripped them of their humanity.
I wrote about this in one of my previous books,
Grace Canceled, because when you can reduce your opponent down
to nothing but just a mere representation of some sort.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Of vague evil, it is really easy.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
To commit horrible acts against them because you've removed their humanity.
Is it really violating a moral code? If you are
taking action against something so supremely evil that it can't
can't even claim humanity anymore because of the level of im.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Morality, that's their whole mo that's their whole point.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
He was Ali was always a very happy warrior. He
and I debated things like social contracts before, and I
will say, even when I thought he was wrong, he
was never nasty. I can't say that he was never mean.
(30:19):
He was never nasty. He was very consistent. It is
so incredible.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I can't underscore how unusual it is to have someone
that consistent, and he's thirty one years old, and that
to have that level of wisdom at that age, it
is very unusual, never nasty, and all he wanted.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Was open good faith to me.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is these are the times it gets really hard
to be in broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And we've covered a lot of these, you know stories,
We've covered a lot of whether it's mass casualty incidents
or uh uh, you know news, you know, tragedies involving politicians.
And you know, I was on air to talk when
we lost our late friend Andrew Breitbart. And this is
(00:32):
difficult because you know, we all know Kirk. We my
husband and I have known Charlie Kirk since he was
a teenager, since he was in you know, I think
seventeen or eighteen years old. And I know we were
one of the early supporters of Turning Point USA because
there hadn't been up till that point, you know, aside
(00:52):
maybe from yaff a group that was focusing strictly on
college kids, and we needed more because you know, the
halls of academ or where these battles are really originating.
I mean, look at every nation that has descended into tyranny.
I mean it all starts with you know, in colleges
and in Russia with Marxism, in China with the Color Revolution,
(01:15):
all of that, and it was needed. And we knew
him for a long time. Didn't agree with him on everything,
but who cares. Who grees with anybody one hundred percent
on everything. I think the point of this, and I
wrote in substack last night, is that out of everyone
in this industry, and there's some really ghoulish people in
this industry, and there's some really bad actors that are
(01:37):
on the right, he was who he was publicly privately
that's really rare. I can't tell you, guys how rare
that is. He was the exact same person privately as
he was publicly, and he was very consistent, and he
(02:04):
really did care about what he was doing. He initially
got launched by another great guy, Foster Freeze, who I
had the pleasure of having dinner with one time. He
was a very nice guy. And Charlie left college and
then basically became ten times greater than I think he
would have been have had he stayed in college. And
(02:27):
so it's it's difficult because you still have to go
on television and you still have to talk about it,
even though you know this person and you met their
wife and you've seen their kids, and you don't like
to see this befall anyone, especially someone who was the
nice guy.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
He was the nice guy.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
When everyone says we need to have a national conversation,
Charlie was having it and they shot him for it.
So I don't know what you're expecting to hear from
me today, if you're expecting to hear some words of
like wisdom or calm or restraint, but I really don't
(03:11):
have a spirit of peace right now, So I'm going
to tell you that. And when you see good people,
for no good reason mow down the way he was,
there is a rage. And I got to tell you
as well, I think that it is a righteous rage.
And I'm already tired of seeing these people preening and
(03:34):
giving lectures on how they think you should react and
when and how you should express anger. Let people have
their righteous rage, because it's deserved. Some of us have
been doing this for fifteen and twenty years, and we've
been down this road so many times, and we've heard, oh, well,
we need to have a national conversation. The right is
(03:55):
the only one having the conversation. And as much as
people don't want to put this in the categories of
right and left, and I'm not eager to do it,
but I'm also not going to sit here and gaslight
my audience for the purpose of some BS fairness that, oh,
well this you know, it's both sides. We're not doing
both sides of them, because there's one side that's doing
the killing. There's one side that has consistently done the killing.
(04:17):
And for just purposes of understanding that, we're going to
dive into that and I'm going to give you the
history of it here, but there's one side that's been
doing it. Today, we're going to talk about some of
the media response, some of the lawmaker response, and can
I just say the overture in all of this was
Luigi Mangeon. If people didn't think that it was disturbing
(04:41):
to watch swaths of the American citizenry celebrate a guy
who in cold blood shot a man to death in
the streets of New York over health insurance. He was celebrated,
I mean they did. They gave him the Boston bomber treatment.
That's that's what this is right now, That's what all
(05:03):
of this it's infuriating. So we're going to dive into
all of this, and we have my friends Kurt Schlichtor
We're also going to talk with David Bozel from Media
Research Center because it is about as bad as you
would think. The left on Blue Sky apparently was horrific.
The latest that we know is apparently in the Wall Street.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Journal confirmed this.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It was a Mauser thirty out six and I thought
originally it kind of sounded like that because of the
heavy It was kind of hard to tell from the
audio because of the acoustics of the area in which
he was speaking, But it sounded more. It sounded not
like a twenty two, that's for sure. And we have
a Mauser. I have this rifle. It's a bolt action
(05:46):
one and one spent round was in the chamber. And
apparently the shell casings had engraved trans Tifa stuff carved
on them. That is some of the latest that was
confirmed earlier by the Wall Street Journal, and they're investigating it.
Of course, the ann said federal officials probe rifle and
(06:08):
AMMO scrolled with cultural phrases. They weren't cultural phrases. It
was the trans Tifa call to war. We're not going
to We're not letting the media get away with us.
We're not letting lawmakers say, oh, well, the people who
are being killed and shot at, need to tone down
their rhetoric. No, maybe it's the left. Joe Biden once
(06:31):
called Republicans verbatim an existential threat to the security of
this country. How long do you think that these politicians,
these lawmakers can say this type of stuff, these things
before somebody's like, well, you know what, I'm convinced they
really aren't an existential threat, So I guess I should
react to it.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Words aren't violence. Violence is violence.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
But I will be damned if I am lectured to
by anybody who has been applauding that kind of language
that we have heard from the left for the past
thirty forty fifty years not doing it. So it's a
hard show today because, like I said, I do not
(07:17):
have a spirit of peace, and I really ultimately the
irony in that is that that's kind of how I
think it should be approached. Because Charlie Kirk only ever
wanted to go and have a conversation with people. My gosh,
you went to college campuses and he smiled about it,
and he never got any aggressive beyond level one sassy,
and he was super nice. He was the moderate, He.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Was the nice guy.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
He was the one that had good intentions, and his
gestures were rooted in good faith. And you have people
out there that are so hyperbolic that everybody who disagrees
with him is Hitler, everyone who disagrees with him is
a Nazi, Everyone who disagree agrees with them as a fascist,
everyone who disagrees with them is a racist.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
These people who.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Sodomized the English language with their hyperbole, they are the
ones who cannot live with a difference in idea. He could,
and he went into the lions Den and he calmly
and peacefully debated with a motivation that was rooted in
(08:29):
goodwill and a knowledge base that was moored in fact.
So spare me the national conversation, because we tried it,
and now you see what happened as a result. Here's
(08:49):
another thing that I'll caution people, everybody who's lecturing, we
need restraint, we need calmness. I don't discount that, but
I don't feel it in my heart. I really don't.
I mean, I told Jesse Waters last night, it's really
hard to be a Christian right now. The discipline required
(09:10):
to walk that walk of discipleship is very difficult right now,
and it's not made easier by Charlatan's in office on MSNBC,
on CNN, who have refused any accountability for where they
(09:30):
have driven us with this logic. If they bring a
knife to the fight, we bring a gun. Warning Cavanaugh,
you guys remember all of this. We'll play the hits
for you here. No, we've been having a national conversation
about this for quite some time. It is a war
(09:52):
of good and evil. I don't even think it's a
war between right and left anymore. I think we need
to stop dressing up evil with distraction.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It is evil. It's not political. It's evil.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
This is a battle between good and evil, and it
doesn't just take place in this plane. So we have
some things to break down. But I just wanted to
kind of let you know my perspective on this. I
don't know what approach you're expecting me to have, but
as I said, I do not have a spirit of
(10:25):
peace right now at all.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Jesse made the remark to me, we've been down this
road a couple of times before, and we have and
you kind of get burned by it and tired of
seeing the double standards, and you're tired of seeing people
who are insistent on dragging American society right to the
precipice of disaster and then completely refuse any all accountability. Oh,
(10:49):
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Speaker 3 (12:02):
Now all of the news you would probably miss. It's
time for Dana's Quick five.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Some of the other news we're going to get into
how the FBI has released a photo for the person
of interest as well, and some eyewitnesses were saying that
it looked coordinated, and we're going to dive into all
of that coming up. Just an fyi. Some of the
other headlines that are making news. Findings by NASA's Mars
Rover provide strong hints yet of potential signs of ancient life.
(12:28):
This is something that we touched on yesterday. They're a
little bitty tiny things, so that doesn't count to me.
Spain is set to introduce strict new country wide bands
at beaches, restaurants and bars. This is one of the
things reported by the Sun. They're banning smoking in Spain,
which is weird because I've never met a Spanish person
(12:50):
from Spain that doesn't smoke, So I don't know how
they're going to live through this, but they said they're
banning smoking at all outdoor venues and that means outdoor restaurants, beaches,
terrace and it includes both east cigarettes vapes as well
as regular cigarettes. So that's something that they're getting ready
to implement, if that's important to you. NYPD is boosting
presidents at critical locations. This was all in place ahead
(13:12):
of our observation of nine to eleven. Today, a huge
fire erupted at a Paris restaurant as riot cops are
battling the block everything protesters, with more than three hundred
and fifty people arrested.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
This is what how.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Many weeks now that this has been going The French
are very good at rioting, but they've made hundreds of
arrest They've been trying to disrupt transportation links and bring
the country to a halt. There's a lot of photos
of the destruction and the fires and riots. So again
that's going into like what a couple of weeks now
and the Secret Service missed a loaded glock in a
(13:47):
bag at Trump's golf course.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
How it's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's
time for Florida.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Man, Well, this is about dogs. A Florida woman bit
a pit bull to save her dog during an attack
in Orlando. She's seventy seventy years old. Is that Shirley
pass a manic sad? She was leaving the store the
other day a pit bull bolted towards her fourteen year
(14:20):
old dog, Sparky latched onto him. She said, we ended
up on the ground. She weighs ninety pounds. She used
her cane in her hands and then she bit the
pit bull on the back of its.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Neck, and apparently it worked.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
For a guy to grab the pit bull and pull
it away and then walk off with the dog on
a leash. So she says that her dogs survived the attack,
but is still shaken.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Oh my gosh. See, I'm just saying, this.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Is why you go out you carry a judge, just
saying little tars, just saying, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So this this is a weird headline. Other one here,
this is weird.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
This is has to do with a felon who was
found homeless with a bunch of baby sea turtles and
also his half dressed girlfriend. I don't know. I don't
write these stories. This is literally This stuff just actually
happens Miami Dade. This uh happened in Miami, happened in
actually Miami Beach, Florida. A forty four year old convicted felon.
(15:21):
He's been in and out of prison for the past
like ten years. He's got tons of charges because of
baby sea turtles. So he the last time he was
in jails because he had tons of cocaine and he
was going to distribute.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Then he got released.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Then he's back in prison now because he attacked a
woman that he had been in an on and off
relationship with and while he hit her, injured her, and
then he got busted when police arrived, also in possession
of a ton of baby sea turtles.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Out of all the random things.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
This is like playing like mad libs with these Florida
man stories, like oh baby sea turtles, why not? Anyway,
he's going to court, he's going to be a rain
this week, so you can't make this stuff up. That's
very very interesting. Let's see here we also have a
cap Coral man who was accused of stealing forty thousand
dollars about eighty five to ninety pairs of Nike Jordan's
(16:15):
I mean, are they Yeah, that's a great question, are
they so?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
He yeah, took a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
He made multiple trips through a rear door, used bolt
cutters to force entry into this storage unit of the store.
He's in custody in Lee County jail, made multiple trips.
He looks like he does not care in his Lee
County Sheriff's Office mug shot. And apparently I guess he
had some help. There was a female that there were
three suspects in total, but he was identified. They also
(16:44):
took two signed sports jerseys, a red Nike Jordan golf
bag with tailor made clubs. It's five hundred dollars, and
then all of the Nike Jordan's sneakers, valued at forty
thousand dollars. I cannot even believe that like that many.
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I want you all to know.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
That American today, American today.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Is on bended knee in prayer for the people who
lives were lost here, for the workers who work here,
for the families who wore This nation stands with the
good people of New York City and New Jersey and
Connecticut as we mourn the loss of thousands of our citizens.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I can hear you, I can hear you. The rest
of the world hears you, and the people and the
people who knock these buildings down will hear all of
(17:56):
us soon.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Nine to eleven, All these years later, what a still
a dark day in American history, and even darker still
considering the events of yesterday. Welcome back to the program
Dana Lash with you. You can watch us do the radio
show channel through forty seven Direct TV. The chat is
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Speaker 3 (18:23):
George W.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Bush released his statement yesterday saying, quote, today a young
man was murdered in cold blood while expressing his political views.
It happened on a college campus, where the open exchange
of opposing ideas should be sacrisynct. Violence and vitriol must
be purged from the public square. Members of other political
parties are not our enemies. They are our fellow citizens.
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May God bless Charlie Kirk and his family, and may
God guide America towards civility. You know how how often
and for how long he was called Bush Hitler. Bush
was called Hitler.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He was called a Nazi.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I used to crash protests and disrupt the television. The
shots of television interviews for leftists, and I was at
one and they were burning him an effigy, and they
gave him a Hitler stash. Someone made the suggestion, maybe
if you'd bother to push back more when they called
you Bush Hitler, that we wouldn't be where we are now.
(19:26):
And that gave me pause, because I feel like the
country is at an interesting crossroad and I understand, believe me,
the responsibility and the weight that comes with it when
you're on air and you talk to you know, millions
of people every single day across the country. And the
(19:49):
reason I say that I just still have such a
spirit of anger right now is because couldn't you argue
that we did then? I thing for a long time
since the w Bush hears, I mean, how did George W.
Bush respond? Some of the biggest criticisms that my side
(20:10):
had of him is that he didn't push back enough
when he was disparaged, and not just when he was disparaged,
when his voters were disparaged, when Republicans were called little
Nazis for supporting him. I mean, a lot of people
are too young to remember, or maybe they weren't involved
enough to have.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Realized that it was really bad. Under George W. Bush
too with the left really.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Bad, and in some instances it's gotten worse, and in
some instances it's been the same. And where did his
ignoring of all of it get to any get anywhere?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Where did that? Where did that go?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
After a ball field of congressional members were fired into
by Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer, and Ryan Paul was about
beaten to death in his front yard, you know, people
weren't out there rioting. They weren't out you. You didn't
see Republicans riot yesterday. You didn't see conservatives go through
(21:15):
the streets and burn down houses, raid foot lockers.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You didn't see any of that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I ask, all of these years, it seems like
we've been the calm, cool ones, and it's insane that
people have to have go through everything that they have
to go through just to speak on a college campus.
And all of any of us conservatives, every single one
(21:44):
of us who are in media, have had to deal
with security. We've had death threats simply because we speak
ideas that are out of agreement or alignment with the left.
I have never felt, in any ways truly violent towards
the leftist for simply them expressing a different idea.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I don't know it's because we're more evolved or what.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I liked Bush's statement, but I also wonder haven't we
been always the civil ones? And I think it has worked.
And I think, yes, you get more flies with hunting
than I get all of that. But I think it's
easier for people who have never had to have a
(22:33):
security detail to simply walk into a college campus to
say that. I think it's easy for people who've never
had anybody fly halfway across their country the country with
a big suitcase enough to fit a dismembered person in
pills and try to break into someone's house, it's easy
for them to say that, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Now to this.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
It's just it's the nation's still processing all of this,
and it hasn't been helpful for some of the elected
officials for some of the things that we've heard. I
wanted to talk to you for a moment about the
insane amount the history of left wing terrorism, of left
(23:19):
wing violence it has long been with us. I mean,
going back to the weather Underground. People will remember the
weather Underground, right, I think they do. You had the
Weather Underground, they committed over gosh, I don't even know
how many over almost three thousand bombings, I think it was.
(23:39):
I was looking at my notes here. The number of
bombings that they had committed was quite large.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
They had a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I think it's actually worse than what some have been
sharing on social media. There were like what two thousand,
five hundred bombings. They did five bombings a day during
an eighteen month period between nineteen seventy one and seventy two,
and over the next decade they had. It was a
very far leftist organization, and in fact, you'll remember the
head of Weather Underground, Bill Ayers, launched Barack Obama's campaign
in his living room Brennetette Dorn. So, yeah, there's a
(24:14):
big history there. You had the Black Liberation Army, they murdered,
dozens of police officers assassinated. You had a bunch of
other Hispanic separatists you've had. I mean, it goes on
and on and on. I mean there's a I think
there's like a book on it, like Days of Rage
or something like that. I mean, we're not even getting
into some of this other stuff. It's just it's insane,
(24:37):
the history of leftist violence. You had SDS students for
a democratic society. That's where that they came out of.
The Weathermen came out of that group. And then you've
got to go all the way up to modern era
and go to Occupy Wall Street and look at Black
Lives Matter, and look at the Chaz chop neighborhoods. Look
(24:58):
at the guy who tried to asassinated a bunch of
Congressional members, Steve Scalis barely escaped with his life, the
armed guy who tried to go and assassinate Supreme Court
Justice Kavanaugh. Interestingly, right after Chuck Schumer. I'm gonna play
this again, right after Chuck Schumer, what audio SoundBite is this?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Thank you? After he said this, listen.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
See that was after Roby Wade and boy, oh boy,
did he really And.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Then the guy was caught trying to get to Kavanaugh's house.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I mean, there's been so many you had Antifa, I
mean we've all seen Antifa. There have been so many far,
so many leftist, violent leftist groups. And then don't forget
the two Jewish staffers that were embassy staffers that were
killed in front of the Capital Jewish Museum in DC,
(26:05):
and then the targets to just regular, average, everyday conservatives
that go out to college campuses and speak, or that
go on television or that have podcasts or whatever. It's
really unbelievable. And it's always one way. It's always one way.
Someone said, oh, well, you know George Floyd. You know,
(26:28):
I guess you guys don't care about his kids. He
had kids too well, to be fair, George Floyd didn't
care about his kids. So you're not comparing those two.
Spare us this what about ism, because there isn't any.
It's actually a hell of a lot worse than the
history of leftist violence. And people kind of realize democrats
(26:48):
want so badly to go back to nineteen sixties radicalism.
They really do. And of course then you've got the
violent attacks on ice. Don't forget that, goodness, the attacks
on ice, the attacks on law enforcement, how the police
were being attacked.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I mean, we could go on and on.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
You guys know this because you've been living it for
the better part of ten plus years. This is who
they are. And all of their later calls for unity
have always been lies. They've always been false. I don't
believe them. I don't believe them when they say they
(27:31):
want unity. I don't believe them when they condemn yesterday's assassination.
I don't believe a single one of them. They're all liars.
Not a single one of them will turn to their
party and say stop looting foot lockers. Every time someone
tries to commit suicide by cop or they turn around
(27:51):
and say stop rioting simply because a conservative went to
your college campus. When is the last time you saw
Gavin Newsom say that, or Elizabeth Warren say that, JB.
Pritzgoor or any of these Democrat lawmakers. They never have.
It's always well. Trump should watch his tone. Trump should
(28:13):
watch his tone. It's unbelievable. I wanted to play this.
This is audio Sunbay thirty three. This is probably one
of my favorite video excerpts of Kirk.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Listen to this.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Spaf I go around universities and have challenging conversations and
because that's what is so important to our country is
to find our disagreements respectfully, because when people stop talking,
that's when violence happens.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
I've never seen someone je.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Well, it's a growing trend because people like me are
facing violence assaults the left. Yes, the campus Antifa. I've
been stormed out of restaurants, I've been assaulted publicly, multiple
death threats. Okay, so what's your drawing. There's more people
that agree with me than some people would actually believe,
and they come out of the woodwork when I do
(29:06):
stuff like this. We record all of it so that
we put on the internet so people can see these
ideas collide. When people stop talking, that's when you get violence.
That's when civil war happens, because you start to think
the other side is so evil and they lose their humanity.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
It's about dehumanizing one side to the point where it's
easy to commit violence because you've stripped them of their humanity.
I wrote about this in one of my previous books,
Grace Canceled, because when you can reduce your opponent down
to nothing but just a mere representation of some sort.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Of vague evil, it is really easy.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
To commit horrible acts against them because you've removed their humanity.
Is it really violating a moral code? If you are
taking action against something so supremely evil that it can't
can't even claim humanity anymore because of the level of im.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Morality, that's their whole mo that's their whole point.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
He was Ali was always a very happy warrior. He
and I debated things like social contracts before, and I
will say, even when I thought he was wrong, he
was never nasty. I can't say that he was never mean.
(30:19):
He was never nasty. He was very consistent. It is
so incredible.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I can't underscore how unusual it is to have someone
that consistent, and he's thirty one years old, and that
to have that level of wisdom at that age, it
is very unusual, never nasty, and all he wanted.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Was open good faith to me.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
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