Absurd Truth: Jimmy Kimmel SUSPENDED

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dana Lashes of surd Truth podcast sponsored by Keltech.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's his laugh mission to make bad decisions.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's time for Florida Man, worst dead ever. Guys, a
Florida man. Of course, he's got a ponytail. No, like
a top knot. Not a ponytail like a man can
wear a ponytail, but a top knot. No, he's accused
of hurling his fence. Sorry, hurling his kids over the
fence after he wrecked his car. Oh wow, dad of

(00:36):
the year here. So, according to this is in Lee County, Florida,
a man was arrested on child neglect charges after being
accused of crashing his car with his three kids inside,
and then he tried to hide them by literally literally
physically throwing them over a fence. He literally threw them
over a six foot tall fence to hide, and then
he tried jumping the fence himself, and a neighbor reported
that the kids were crying. Again topknot. Does it surprise

(00:58):
you top nott would do this? No, not at all.
So he was arrested on three charges of child neglect
and cruelty. They have not disclosed his relationship to the kids,
So I mean, are they his unk. What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Are they his kids? Like what's happening? I don't know.
So that's those poor children. They were given to uh,
taken into custody of family. So think heavens. We talked
about the sea turtle guy, but I do want to
talk about this jeep driver. Okay, So the jeep drivers,
they have a whole culture. I had a jeep, so
I know this, and I didn't realize until because people

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bizarrely wave at you and you're like, why are you
why are you waving? I just immediately am suspicious when
people are kind. It's that horrible, and I'm like, why
are you waving? And then they leave ducks on your jeeps.
What do they call it? Cane you get like they
give you the duck on the jeep they duck you
or something. Yeah, people buy these bags of these things anyway.

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So the reason I say all this is because they
seem like nice, friendly people, like they got their jeep wave.
That's a whole culture. Well, one jeep driver chased down
and shot his childhood friend after he saw him on
a motorcycle and then he text him, texted him, when's
a good time to come over? Oh, this dude is
crazy eyes. Oh completely, look look at his eyes. Those
are crazy eyes, just like a chick cans dudes. Florida

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man he saw his childhood friend test driving a motorcycle
and decided to chase after him, fired a gun at
the guy, tried to run him off the road with
his jeep. Oh he hit a jeep. Chaerirokease, that's technically
not like the Wrangler sort. He then texted the victim
after and said, whin's a good time to come over.
Twenty three year old Isaiah MacDonald charged with the aggravated
assault with the deadly weapon, discharging a weapon into an
occupied vehicle, discharging a fire him from a vehicle, and
drug possession after they found heroin and all kinds of

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stuff inside his jeep following the incident. It wound up
being the victim's mother who tracked him down after the
event happened. She decided to go look for the vehicle
at where she knows he lives and then she called
the cops. So lake Kuniye sheriff said, they responded to
the call and they noticed he noticed that the guy
was his friend, was staying on his tail and being
very aggressive. What kind of psycho does that? What in

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the world? So, yeah, this guy's going to g he
looks crazy though. I mean when you see as crazy
as you're like, oh, it's always in the eyes. Yeah,
it completely is always in the eyes. Absolutely. I have to.
Can I touch on, by the way, the Florida Very
Florida discussion we had with Lieutenant Governor j Collins yesterday

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because we put a clip out where we asked, does
every person in Florida have a machete?

Speaker 4 (03:28):
You guys?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I literally like laughed. I actually did laugh. It wasn't
I didn't lie about loling. Oh my gosh, your comments
were hysterical. Someone's like, a three machetes, and then I
think I have a couple more that I lost somewhere
on my property. That's what Jeff says. He goes when
you drive into Florida as a newcomer, they give you
a machete at the Agricultural Products and Specs and Inspection station.

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On I seventy five and I ninety five, someone said,
I have two machetes by the bed. I used them
to hide the guns between them. That's hysterical. Someone said,
have you seen the palmetto bugs? Everybody was like, yeah,
I've got one or two machetes. I'm a woman, I
have a machete. Oh my gosh. It's hysterical. And they,

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I mean literally everybody, everybody, everybody. Someone said I got
a smaller one when I moved to the villages. There
you go. It's a villager. I'm saying. Someone said, yes,
I have one, and I need to get a new one.
I mean, they are everywhere. And then they talk about
what they use them for. Well, we use them to
cut weeds. We use them for we use them to

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hack down weeds. What do you chop a dead banana?
Try with? How do you kill a water moccasin? I
don't get close enough to a water moccasin to hack
it to death with a machete, though, that is that's
a new level of Florida badass right there. You people
are just like America's Australians. God love you, but but yeah,
I was cracking up at the comments on this they

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whether it was on Insta or Facebook or x And
then some of you were emailing where you get your
machetes from in Florida. Apparently there's like some play. I
just thought, oh, you know, get a machete. No, no, no,
some are better than others, and some stores are better
than others. They're very particular kine about the machetes. I
did not realize that was such a thing. Hundreds of
comments on this and everyone's like, oh, yeah, we have them.

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Tell them that Dana sent you. I didn't see anything
from the FCC. I didn't see anything like that. I
didn't see Brendan Carr trying to put pressure on Joe

(06:27):
Biden or Trump. I didn't. I didn't, or Trump trying
to put pressure on ABC. He would say, oh, I
hear Jimmy Kimmel's next or something like that. But let's
be honest about it. Do you guys know what Jimmy
Kimmel's ratings were. Okay, so his ratings, his ratings were
actually worse than col Bear's. Yeah, Deadline Hollywood had talked

(06:56):
about his tough ratings, like some weeks ago, there are
several that and he's apparently lived over all of this.
But at the same time, he had a major drop
in viewers. And I'm looking at a couple of different
these are like like actual industry reports on this that
come from ratings and viewership, et cetera. So according to Nielsen,

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he Colbert was beating Kimmel. That's wow, he was, I mean,
actually Colbert was beating Yeah, Colbert was beating Kimmel. That's
insane because Colbert's ratings were really bad. They were really bad,

(07:44):
and this was even let's see, even before Colbert left,
he was actually dominating Kimmel. Okay, so this also seems
kind of like it's sort of like how Colbert was
very upset and how people, you know, Colbert was let

(08:06):
go because he ultimately was not bringing in the eyeballs
to sustain their ad rates. I mean, I got to
tell you, it kind of seems like Jimmy Kimmel's the
same here. Am I wrong? Kndo Danner, You're not wrong,
You're totally right, Dunam, You're totally right. It just seems
like that's kind of exactly what happened to. That's what

(08:29):
Colbert did. Colbert wasn't getting the eyeballs in. I'm looking
at this, there's a couple of things. Jimmy Kimmel's his
show slipped, so Colbert actually almost had a million more viewers.
This tracks into the most recent Key eighteen to forty
nine demographic with Nielsen data in quarter two. This is

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why Colbert was still on air. I mean, he was dominating,
he was beating Kimmel, and he had found would kind
of go back and forth. So Jimmy Kimmel's ratings were
lower than that of Stephen Colbert, who already had bad ratings.
I think that Disney and ABC we're looking to offload him,
and that they're just using this as an excuse, honestly,

(09:12):
I mean, because that is that is you know, that
is bad his ratings. What I'm gonna do is, I'm
gonna put this this piece in your prep email for
you subscribers so that you can I mean, it gets
into the numbers of it. You're probably gonna find it boring,
but it's still rather enlightening considering, you know, I mean,

(09:33):
it's very enlightening. So that he can get as mad
as he wants to. But it doesn't seem like the
problem is Trump and the FCC or this administration. All
Trump did was say great news for America. The ratings
challenged to Jimmy Kimmel shows canceled, congrats for ABC. Blah

(09:55):
blah blah. Kimmel has zero talent, et cetera, et cetera. Uh,
that doesn't mean that he got involved and put pressure
on it. That just means he's gloating about it after
he's gloating about the business decision after Look, if there
was evidence that you had this administration in any way
even remotely getting near to what the Biden administration did,
that's one thing. But there is no evidence to that.

(10:17):
And frankly, I don't want to hear people like Van
Jones and all of these other folks say this is
a red line that's been crossed for our industry. Did
you guys say that with Gino Carano? Did you guys
say that with Roseanne? Did you guys say that with
Matthew Marsden? I mean, do you want to go run
down the list of all of the celebrities that have
been blacklisted because of their political beliefs? I mean, just

(10:38):
look at what they did to Sidney Sweeney over a
denim ad. Do you honestly believe that these people give
a rats backside about it? You know, all the line's
been crossed. The line was already crossed by you. You
crossed it, Eric Swawell, oh wait, here's we played Chuck
Schumer thrown a fit? Did we played that already? Correct?
Is that what we played? No audio? Somebody fourteen? This

(11:00):
is him having a tantrum. Go ahead, and he's so
livid over this. A Shumer, your reaction to this, it
is outrageous.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
It's a page right out of she's playbook.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
This is just despicable. Discuss real quick. I'm so sorry.
One one's gonna hate you right now. I'm really sorry. Okay,
So he's he's invoking Chiji Ping. You mean the jen
Ping that you guys literally rolled out, literally rolled out
the red carpet for in California, and you threw all
the homeless people out into the woods, and you went
and cleaned up the streets just for the brief moment
that Jijenping was in town. And then you literally flew
the communist sickle of the CCP flag right next to

(11:33):
the stars and stripes when he came because you were
so busy kissing his big o' CCP. But really that okay,
go ahead, sorry, a Schumer, your reaction to this, it
is outrageous.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
It's a page right out of She's playbook. This is
just despicable, disgusting and against democratic values. Trump and his
allies seemed to want to shut down speech that they
don't like to hear. That is not what democracies do.
That is what autocracies do. And it doesn't matter whether
you agree with Kimmel or not. He has the right

(12:05):
to free speech. And so it is just outrageous. It
is indicative of autocracy, and I am just outraged by it. Again,
this is what dictators do. This is what she would do,
This is what Putin would do. We are not that country.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
So, like, what did he do? Does he think that
ABC and Next Star in Sinclair are government agencies? Does
he think that that's part of the Trump administration? You
guys know ABC is so conservative, right, Oh my gosh,
so conservative? Come on, people, come on, this is so ridiculous.

(12:42):
It's not like I said. That's why I don't view
it as a free speech issue. I don't view it
as that because it's not. Now again, show me where
the FCC put pressure. But this is the line that
the media, this is all they want to push audio
some on bite fifteen, Tater, I mean Brian Stelter. He
says this as well. He pushes this narrative. They are

(13:05):
not learning, they're not learning. Listen to this.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
And then we're talking about comedy. This is so serious. Aaron,
America is a less free place if late night comedians
cannot do and say what they want. Of course they
can be tuned out. People can change the channel. That's
how we vote, that's how we have our say in America.
But this really does have a chilling effect across the
American media. And it's not just me saying it. We've

(13:30):
heard from the Group Fire in the past few minutes,
the Free Speech Group Fire saying, quote the government pressure
at ABC and ABC caved quote. We cannot be a
country where late night talk show hosts serve at the
pleasure of the president. But until institutions grow a backbone
and learn to resist government pressure, that is the country
we are.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
And just one more note, Airtee. Wait, so he's like
insisting that there was government pressure, but where was the
government pressure. I'm curious as to whether or not they
all had the same sentiment. This is flashback audio which
cut is this because there's a million This is when
Kimmel was laughing about Tucker Carlson being fired. This was
pretty crazy, guys. Remember this audio sound byte eight. Listen.

(14:11):
This is from twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Fox News has severed bow ties with Tucker Carlson. After
all these years, they are parting ways, which means he
was fired. I mean That's really what parting ways means.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Pucker.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Tucker couldn't be reached for comment. He's already on a
plane to Moscow to meet with his manager. But what
a shock, I mean, what an absolutely delightful shock. This
is Now Tucker can spend more time at home tanning
his testicles and touching himself to that sexy green M
and M. Sadly, he's probably not done poisoning old people's brains.

(14:47):
The question now is where will he do it next?
Will he go to Oa n Will he go to Newsmax?
Will he crawl back up Satan's fiery be hole from
once he came? We don't know, one of the most
despicable mother Tuckers ever to appear on American television.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I'm curious did they find where was everybody at that
moment when they were taught Where were the van Joneses
and the Brian Stelters when they were saying that, oh
my gosh, a line has been crossed? Where Where was that?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Where?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I mean, I'm just curious. Yeah, that's right. I didn't
hear anything from any of them. Then. By the way,
more of Kimmel audio sound by nine, Speaking of cancel culture.
This is about the most cancellly of cancel culture. I
can imagine.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Listen, hospitals get any more over crowded, they're going to
have to make some very tough choices about who gets
an ICU. Bet that choice doesn't seem so tough to me.
Vaccinated person having a heart attack, Yes, come right on him,
we'll take care of you. Unvaccinated guy who gobbled horse goo,
rest in peace. Wheezy you're that's.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Oh, a line has been crossed. Blah blah blah. These people,
they don't really believe this. The only reason they're saying
these things is because they think you, because they know
you believe this, and they'll hope that you're stupid enough
to think that these are the same things. But they're not.
Though they're not the same thing. The guy sucked in
his time slot. He was not performing well for his employer.

(16:11):
I think that because his ratings were worse than that
of Colbert's. I think that Disney and ABC were trying
to offload him. I think they were looking for a
way out. There was a lot of rumors about it
for the last couple of years. This even predates Trump's
second election, right, He's been struggling for a long time.
Keep in mind that Jimmy Kimmel was never the funny
one when he got started in comedy. He was always

(16:32):
the second banana. It's like an actual He was like
the Ed McMahon Johnny Carson, except Ed McMahon was funny
and had some talent. Jimmy Kimmel's just an oaf who
put uh women on trampolines and yucked it up over everything.
Adam Corolla said he'd never nobody like if Jimmy Kimmel
wasn't on The Man Show, you had no idea nobody

(16:53):
and nobody watches clearly, as evidenced by the ratings, nobody
watches his show now. But the only only reason that
all of these people on the left are saying these
things is because they know you value free speech. They
themselves don't, and they think that they get a pass
because remember, when you can call everything a Nazi, when
you can call everything fascist, then you can justify using

(17:15):
whatever power you have as a way to disadvantage your opponent.
See this is all linked into their rhetoric, and now
you have the media amping up the rhetoric again. They're
acting like the first Amendment is under attack. They are
acting like this is an assault on free speech. Oh

(17:36):
my gosh, it's a constitutional crisis, except for the fact
that it was literally three businesses that chose to make
the decision, independent of the government, and unlike once again
the Biden administration and the tech companies and the IRS
and the Tea Party and the COVID purposeful disinformation campaign

(17:57):
that they were trying to launch and see that people
asking questions were traders, despite all of the evidence and
emails and paperwork that prove that there is nothing that
in any way even remotely proves their argument that this
was from the Trump administration. If it was, I'd be
one of the first people to call it out. But
it's not. Well. They are Marxist, though. Hold up, they

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It's time for Dana's Quick five. I love these stories
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differentiate between this, and so it's not fact checked and
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Did you guys hear about this, it was I think
there's more drama in this than there was necessary. So
a plane, it did not nearly crash. This is this
Daily Star headline is absolute bs stupid press hyperbole because
they said that, oh well, gosh, air Force one almost

(20:00):
literally crashed into another plane, a Spirit Airlines plane. That's
not what happened. The air traffic control And this is
before when when Potus, before Potus left for the UK,
air traffic control noticed that there was another plane eight
miles away that if it remained on current course, would
cross the trajectory of Air Force one. So while that
plane was still eight literally eight miles away, air traffic

(20:24):
Control had them alter their course. There was no almost crash.
I think, like Daily Star, you are literally the turd
in the punch bowl of like general like intelligent discourse.
Why would you why would you inflame like that it
would actually was over eight miles away, And other people
who work in air traffic control and who are pilots
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(20:47):
that's not anything to be over dramatic about. Probably isn't
the first time that this has happened with Air Force
one because there have been instances where they can change
trajectory because of whether et cetera, and air traffic control
has to then for any place that might you know,
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it's not I don't understand. The drama is ridiculous, but
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(21:53):
population is aging to where there are more older people
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low birth rate, but they have a healthier diet and
a lot of some of the oldest people in the
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(22:14):
they have changed more than any other G seven country
remarkably since the sixties in terms of their the age
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(22:34):
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(22:54):
who's always number one, but I mean barely so. Californias
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seven direct TV. We're at X where at rumble all
this good stuff. My next guest is someone who I struck.
When did I? I can't remember? I was actually asking
my husband, I'm like, when was the first time I
sent you one of her videos? We were actually going back,
like way back in our texts. Like she was brand
new and she started with TPUSA and she did a

(23:37):
podcast about really like culture and humor, and it tied
politics into it, but it was an overly politically driven
But she was hysterical. I thought she had like the
comedic timing of Joan Rivers. And you guys know that
Joan Rivers is a goddess and she was my favorite
female comedian to ever grace this rock crowd resersal So

(23:58):
I thought she's hysterical. Her timing is like like very
Joan Rivers eskue. I'm like, I've never seen that in
anybody who's you know, if she's a comedian a commentator,
I haven't seen that in any other female. That's like
really something. And her stuff was just hysterical. And then
she's since grown she speaks all over the country. She
does all of this amazing stuff. She she's you know,

(24:19):
got started with Charlie Kirk and TPUSA and now she
has Culture Apothecary as well. You can follow her on
x on Facebook, Instagram. She's a host of Culture Apothecary
Alex Clark also at TPUSA. Alex, God love you. You
always look amazing and I just want to say we
have been praying for you and for with everybody at TPUSA, Erica,
their kids, Charlie's family. This this is like your generation's

(24:44):
JFK moment. I think it's kind of like how Andrew
Breitbart was ours, but this is so much more severe,
so much different, and I you know, we've just been
lifting you up because it's not easy being young and
being in the public and having to navigate this stuff
all at the same time, and you've been doing it gracefully.
So God bless you. I just wanted to tell you.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
That, Thank you, Dana. It means so much.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
And I just absolutely love you and Chris and Kane,
and you know, I'm the longest fan of yours. When
I first got hired at Turning Point, us say Charlie
and Tyler boy are our CEO at the time, asked me.
They said, Alex, who are the women that you look
up to in the movement? And you were the first
name that I said. So it's just surreal to be
on your show right now talking about what we're talking

(25:29):
about exactly.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
And I saw the notice just earlier today, actually right
when we got started that the board over at TPUSA
they voted Erica Kirk as the new CEO and chair
of the board, and they said that that's what Charlie
had intended. I have only met her briefly a couple
of times. I met her the longest actually just this
last time in Dallas when I saw you and her
and Charlie came out the Young Women's Leadership summit and

(25:53):
they spoke and she was just so sweet and so friendly.
But what I really liked about her, in addition to
her joyfulness, was she was very assured of herself and
confident in what she believed in and her faith. And
that when you are married to somebody like Charlie, to
be able to go out and share that presence is
a tough thing. So when I saw that this announcement came,
it didn't surprise me at all. You know her though,

(26:15):
you've you know, you kind of grew up with them.
What do you think about all of it?

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Well, there is just there couldn't be a better choice
than Erica. And you know, she didn't want this, She
didn't plan for this. This was never her goal to
be CEO of Turning Point was day right. That was
always supposed to be Charlie. She loves being a stay
at home mom. She loves her two children. You know,
they even kept their pregnancies a secret so that she
could just really really soak up that time. And I

(26:42):
really feel like, looking back, that was totally intentional that
they did everything that way. God knew that that was
going to be the right thing for them to just
enjoy each other in those moments with the small amount
of time that she was going to have with Charlie.
And now she's ready to step in the role because
it makes sense that the only person that could possibly
take over and run this place in the best honor

(27:05):
to Charlie Kirk would be his wife, who knew him
better than anybody else. You know, knew his intentions, knew
his ultimate goals, his secrets, and so I can't wait
to see what she does. I know that being a
mother matters more to her than anything else, though, so
I don't anticipate that she's going to be in the
office every single day, you know, one on moment employees.
I think it's probably going to be like more like

(27:26):
bigger picture meetings and things like that, and then we
have you know, tons of directors, other C level employees
and managers that will probably do the more day to
day stuff.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, that makes total sense. And because they were very
family first, you get to see their whole courtship and
everything from the beginning. And I was watching a video,
but well I heard them talking about it at the
event as well. I love the dynamic that they have,
and I feel like younger generations are starting to go
back and recognize the importance of having that helpmate and

(27:56):
the importance of strong families and the stuff that you
talk about as well in your show Culture Apothecary. And
you know that you and TPUSA and everybody, I think
get a lot of credit for fomenting that, and there
there weren't a lot of examples, you know, as your
generation was growing up, because you guys were so young,
you're just you know, graduating college or getting out of
high school. And this was kind of like the first

(28:16):
It was like the first big couple for that generation.
So everybody knew who they were. Everybody in this movement
knew who they were. Talk about the impact that that
that you've seen that have because you see all of
these young women and all of these young men all
across the country. You travel more than I do. Tell
me what you've seen.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Okay, Well, first I want to say something interesting, which
is that Turning Point USA actually has more female directors
in our departments than male. So you have a lot
of high level women working at Turning Point USA. A
conservative company. And when Charlie met Erica, I mean obviously
believing in family and supporting the idea of a nuclear
family was always top of mind for Charlie, But until

(28:55):
he had his own I don't think that he really
even grasped that, you know, totally. And once he married
Erica and having his own children, I just think that
his heart even softened more towards the women in this company.
And right before he died, Dana, like a couple days
before his death, it was announced that he was giving
the women at Turning Point USA six months paid maternity

(29:17):
leave there. I don't even know a progressive company that
gives that to their female employees.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
And Charlie Kirk was going to be doing.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
That for us, wow, and without the government forcing forcing
him to do it, because he just wanted to. I mean,
that's that's what it's all about. Are you, because I
know you do a lot of events and you speak
a lot. Are you worried now about safety? Are you
worried about your well being when you when you go
to do your next event?

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, next time, I'm coming to Texas and I've got
some time to spare. I'm linking up with you, and
I need you to teach me my whole way around
a firearm, because yeah, it was that was one of
the first immediate thoughts of mine. And now my new
normal is that every single time I speak, I have
to have to arm security with me driving me to
and from and everywhere I go. And I said, is

(30:07):
this temporary or is this the new normal? And I
was told it is the new normal. And that is because,
as Don Junior so perfectly said, the bullets are only
going one way.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
It's one way.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
And I don't know leftist organizations that are having to
go through all of these hoops or you know, dealing
with this like conservative organizations are, and it's just absolutely
terrifying and it's sad, but it just motivates us that
that shows how much work really has to be done here,
that is, and.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
That makes me so angry for you, because you that
should not have to be new normal. It should not
have to be the new normal for anyone. I was
talking to a friend, I mean, we actually just turned
something down because it was outside, uh, And I was
talking to another friend, a young woman also who works
in the industry, and she was saying that she's She's like, well,
what can I do when I go when I have
to travel to states that, you know, like Illinois, that

(30:59):
our gun control states, and the fact that now everyone
has to rewire their brains and think about that. It
enrages me because I don't want it to be a
chilling effect. Do you from the people that you talk to,
do you think that they feel as though their speech
will have to be chilled now as a result?

Speaker 6 (31:19):
What do you mean by chilled? Like they're like, we
just won't be able to speak.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, Like, do you are like your fans and the
people who watch everything that you do. Do you get
the sense that they're kind of reacting to this and thinking, Wow,
I'm not going to be able to speak as loudly
as before. Maybe I don't speak up on this issue,
or you know, maybe maybe I wanted to go and
be like the next Alex Clark and now I'm rethinking it.
Are you getting that from the folks that you're interacting with?

Speaker 6 (31:43):
Hell no, no, we're not complete opposite.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Like like Charlie Kirk every single time, and boy did
I get myself in so much trouble. I mean not
trouble by him, but like controversial things that I would say,
you know, my audience would react or the internet would
react and it would be like you know, so he
would get so many angry emails like Charlie, are you
to do something about your employee?

Speaker 3 (32:01):
She said this, this or this.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
And he was always the first person to message me
and be like, uh, great work, keep going, keep them talking.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Like he was like whatever you believe.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
He didn't say necessarily you know, I agree or disagree,
but he'd just be like, whatever you think, whatever you believe,
say it like and I know that there's all this
drama about this Hampton's trip that he was on right
before he died. If you're on X and you live
online like Dana and I do, then you're familiar with
this this stuff. And you know, when he was on
this Hampton's trip discussing Israel and all of this, I

(32:32):
had done a Q and A on my Instagram stories
and somebody asked me, like, Alex, how are you feeling
about the Middle East?

Speaker 6 (32:37):
What's your opinions on all the Israel stuff?

Speaker 4 (32:39):
And I said, because my personal opinion is I said,
I'm so sick of talking about Israel.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
I said, I do not care.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
I do not want the I don't want the United
States of America involved in any country period.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
So I just am done with all that. I don't
want us involved anywhere. That was what I said.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
And Charlie sent a message to me and he said,
he said, keep up the good work. Whatever you believe,
I support you. Keep speaking your mind. I mean, and
this is in the midst of you know, he's allegedly
like being threatened to be quiet all this like, so
that just wasn't the case.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
And he was.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
He was the great coalition builder. I mean, Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
If you look at any single lineup that he's had
at any of our events, from Young Women's to our
Student Action Summit to America Fest, every you know, gold
star event, that Turning Point you say, is put on
for the last six years. You had different types of
people within the Republican Party, within the conservative movement, with
all sorts of different ideologies, you know, within that realm
like you, and all different types of religion. So yes,

(33:41):
you had Jews, you had Protestants, you had Catholics, you
had atheists, agnostics. I mean, everybody was represented at our events,
and Charlie never spoke poorly about any speaker. It was
always about elevating different voices, giving students that were involved
in Turning Point usay and attendees to our events, you know,
exposure to different ide so that they could think for themselves.

(34:01):
That was always what it was about. It was always
to continue people, you know, encourage critical thinking.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
That's that's I mean. I can't when I first heard
the story that you were talking about the Hamptons thing,
I thought, well that I feel like people were sort
of underhandedly accused him of being duplicitous, which he never was.
He was always exactly from what I've known of Charlie.
We knew him since I mean obviously not every day
like you did. But when he first started as a teen,
everything that he was privately he was publicly. And that's

(34:30):
why that story kind of took me off guard because
that sounded very uncharacteristic of the Charlie Kirk that I knew.
I mean, if he felt it, then he would tell it,
he'd say it. He wasn't a guy that would get intimidated.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
And he was open to hearing new information and definitely
changing his mind on different things. I mean, I think
you saw that throughout the years on different stanzas with
like immigration for example. Like there's just like some things
like that that I think he did kind of shift
or evolve on. He wasn't against that, but if he did,
he would tell you. I mean, every single speech he

(35:04):
ever did, every single podcast he ever did, every radio show,
like he shared his views up until you know, the
day that he died. He was talking about what he
thought about religion and the Middle East and foreign relations.
It was never like a big secret where he was like,
I'm going to say one thing on air because I'm terrified,
and then behind the scenes, I'm saying something else. Now,
if he would have had longer to live, Dana, if

(35:25):
Charliekirk would have been on this earth another ten years,
another twenty years, and another thirty forty, he very well
could have changed his mind on things like Israel or Protestantism.
I don't know, We'll never know, but that was taken
from him, and so all we have is what he
did share while he was on this earth and until
the day he died.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
I mean, I believe he was clear about all of
his views.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, I completely agree with you, and just like you
are crystal clear with all of yours. Alex Clark, you
can find her. I love your name, by the way,
your name on ex CEO Alex raps with a Z.
You can find her on x, Facebook and Instagram, Reel
Alex Real Alex Clark, Culture Apothecary as well as TPUSA
and everybody don't forget Fight for Charlie dot com as well.

(36:08):
That's where people can go and you can get the
live stream to the memorial and everything. This Sunday, Alex,
God love you. You are just such a bright light
in this dark world right now, and I appreciate your
consistency and your talent and your fight, and you are
one of the young women I think to watch out for.
God love you. I'm so happy that that you're so
successful and what you do. Appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
I love you so much, Dana. I love you very
much in your whole family.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Thank you. You're welcome. We love you too.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Thanks for tuning in to today's edition of Dana Lash's
Absurd Youth podcast. If you haven't already, made sure to
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