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An independent citizen journalist goes viral for exposing the massive fraud in Minnesota’s daycare system. Meanwhile, an experiment is conducted involving an AI office vending machine at the Wall Street Journal office that ended up giving in to ridiculous demands including staging a coup against their boss and losing hundreds in profits.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dana Lashes of surd Truth podcast sponsored by Keltech. It's
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Florida man. Yeah, well, this is a couple of great
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Here.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
On the Danish show Es Central, Florida man sued outback steakhouse,
saying the toilet shattered beneath him. I hate when that happens,
don't you. I mean, it's one thing when there's no
toilet paper with them. The toilet just shatters right underneath you.
No fun there, but hey, at least he got some
bloomin onion a right. A Florida man allegedly stole four
hundred pounds of avocados to buy Christmas presents for children.

(00:40):
The suspect allegedly told deputies he planned to sell the
avocados to buy Christmas gifts for his kids, and so
he stole hundreds of pounds of them in the Miami area.
Idel Perez arrested after deputy said they saw him leaving
a fenced avocado grove with bags of avocados estimated to
weigh four hundred pounds. So the man strong, I'm just saying,

(01:01):
you got to give it to him, you know, what
I'm saying, Like the avocados you carry one of those
little bags in the store, they're heavy, four hundred pounds
of avocados. That's some serious, serious girth right there. So
and since it is the season, of course, and we
have the Salvation Army donation kettles everywhere, you know you're
gonna have a story like this. Obviously, a Florida man
wielding a Salvation A Florida man wielding a Salvation Army

(01:26):
donation kettle attacks a store manager. Yes, that's right. The
Salvation Army donation kettle was his weapon of choice. A
violent outburst, took the kettle, went into a store and
tried to impale the store manager with the Salvation Army kettle,
which makes sense if you think about it, if you're

(01:48):
looking for a weapon, they're everywhere, and they are like
legit kettles. I mean, they're not flimsy things. I'm just saying,
you know what i mean. So he picked one up
and he went into a store and he went after
the guy. And he's a real handsome guy too, as
you can imagine, threatening to impale this guy. He was intoxicated,
which is also shocking. I know you're shocked about that

(02:09):
part of the story as well. Began aggressively confronting people
who walked by, creating a major to servants, and the
manager came outside. The guy became violent and attempted to
impale the manager with the donation kettle tripod, because you
also have the kettle and also the tripod that holds
up said kettle, so you really have two weapons there,

(02:30):
if you think about it. He was hired as a
Salvation Army bell ringer and stationed outside this public supermarket.
He was drunk ringing and belligerent tightings, belligerent tightings, so
the titings this time of year, drunk belligerent tightings, and
then they took him into custody after his full blown

(02:52):
charity tirade. So there you go. And I always thought
they picked the best people for these jobs. I really did.
My experience with the Salvation Army Santa Cattle people has
always been fine and outstanding. I've never gotten drunk belligerent tidings,
but you know that's me. Corporate legacy media continues to implode,

(03:15):
and it's imploding everywhere. It really is. You have people
with their phones just going out there and doing the
work of actual journalism, and this kid exposes this Minnesota
daycare fraud one hundred and ten million dollars. The FBI
is all over it now, Cash Betel coming out and
saying that we're going to have more resources devoted to
going after these people, and people have already been locked up,

(03:37):
and more people are going to be locked up, and
they're saying that at the end of the day, this
is going to be over a billion dollars, a billion
dollars in fraud. I mean, it's infuriating. As a tax beyer,
I hate paying taxes. We all hate paying taxes. But
a big thing what they tell us all the time is, well,
you know, a lot of your tax dollars they go
to the military, and they go to the needy people,

(03:58):
people who just can't get by otherwise without your money.
So you have to do it. It's no bless oblige.
You've got money, so you've got the government has to
take it from you and then redistribute it to all
these people who apparently need it. And then you find
out that these people they swarm in and they descend
on these places and they know they can rip it off.
It actually created fraud tourism, yes, fraud tourism. So as

(04:22):
we're now in this kind of weird week between Christmas
and New Year's where a lot of people are on
vacation and they're touring different places, people were coming to
Minnesota from states like Pennsylvania just so they could get
in on the action, get in on the action of
the fraud. That's how bad it was and how open
it was, and how the conversations about how easy it

(04:42):
was to steal money were happening all over the place. Meanwhile,
Tim Walks was just running around like a goofball, busy
putting tampons in boys bathrooms, busy running around doing his
bad Richard Simmons impression and not caring. A couple of
reasons why. Number one was I think they were fine
with it. The Somali community in Minnesota has a ton

(05:04):
of political clout. Number two, they were afraid of being
called racist. So be the equivalent of if when they
were going after the mafia years ago, not but the
mafia's real, obviously, but if hypothetically speaking, Lucos and Oustter
was real, and when they were going after it, it
would have been the equivalent of saying, well, if you
go after the mob. That just means you hate Italians.

(05:28):
So we're going to threaten you and say that you're
all racist against Italian people, so that you don't crack
down and organize crime. You don't go after the Gambiinos,
you don't go after the goddies, because to do so
would be saying that you hate Italians. And they made
those threats and then a lot of the bureaucrats in
Minnesota just turned around and said, okay, fine. The politicians

(05:48):
of the bureaucrats were like, well, well, you don't want
to be considered we don't want to be racist against
the hard working Somali community. It's it's so funny too
to watch some of these Democrat politicians double down and
their support of the Somali community. The Somalis were ripped off,
like Somali autistic kids were ripped off. Somali unhoused people

(06:09):
to use the left's term, were ripped off. Somali children
who needed food and childcare were ripped off. But you
can't talk about that, you can't acknowledge that. So we
just have to pretend that this is just some vast
right wing conspiracy. Because people just woke up one day
and decided that they just hate Somali people. Do you
have to ignore the fraud, you have to ignore the

(06:30):
theft of taxpayer dollars, and you have to ignore people
not getting the services that they were legally entitled to
under the law, so that you are not considered to
be a racist. And obviously, since we don't care about
being called a racist anymore, because it's just such a
tired attack that means absolutely nothing. It's just the kind

(06:50):
of thing that you just you throw it out there
and it's like, uh huh, yeah, no, I know. I've
heard this now a million times about everything, my use
of pronouns, my use of Christmas light, whether or not
they're all white or not. I mean, I've heard it
in every single way. So if I'm going to talk
about a billion dollars worth of fraud and how people
were ripped off and you want to call me racist

(07:12):
over that, that's just added to the list at this point.
Just add it. We're running, we have a running tally.
I just throw it on there and you're fine, You're good,
You're fine. And it's really fun watching Tim Waltz think
that he can salvage his political career do you know
that that guy had ambitions to run for president of
the United States, Because I know you're thinking, like, is
there a goofball society he could be president of? Yes,

(07:33):
yes there is. There certainly is a gigantic Dufis Goofball society.
But in terms of America, no, he has no chance.
It's over for him. And what I can't I still
can't understand why they put this guy on a ticket.
You know, typically you vet these politicians before you would
make them the running mate of the Democrat Party. And

(07:54):
it was all right there, it was under their nose.
It was all happening. There had been reports about it,
just nothing was done about it. There were reports over
the years, and they say that the fraud was evident
two years ago. So what I don't understand is why
they made this guy the vice presidential running mate of
the United States of the Democrat Party when you had
all these other candidates. I'm not saying any of the

(08:15):
other candidates were much better, but at least Josh Shapiro
in Pennsylvania, who I think just didn't want it. I
think he torpedoed his interview with Kamala Harris on purpose
and walked in with all these demands because he knew
that it was a losing ticket and he didn't want
to be attached to that stink. He wanted nothing to
do with that. It's like you find a skunk in
your backyard. You know you're gonna have to bring up

(08:37):
a tomato soup if you go near it, so you
just stay away. Well that's the old Well. I don't
know if it works or not, but I was always
told that tomato soup gets the skunk stink off. But
I don't know what gets the stink off if you
are on a ticket that is the biggest losing Democrat
ticket in modern political history. And I think Shapiro saw
that and he figured, twenty twenty eight is not that

(08:59):
far away. I'll just stay here and do my thing
and I won't go near that that train wreck. But
you had others, I mean Mark Kelly before he came
out with his video and essentially now told the military
what they already know, which is don't commit a war crime.
Before that, he was considered a contender because they needed
a boring white guy. That was their whole standard for

(09:21):
the ticket. They needed a boring white guy. Well, he's
about as boring as you get. I mean, the most
exciting thing about Mark Kelly is that he was an
astronaut at one point, and now he put out that
video part of the Seditious Six as they're known, telling
members of the military what they already know and are
told on a daily basis, which is you don't commit
war crimes. And then they said, well, is anybody telling

(09:44):
him to commit war crimes? And it was like, no, no,
we're just hypothetically reminding them so that we can get
everybody talking about war crimes just as a movie comes
out about Norremberg. No, I do think that was a
big part of it. I think it was helping to
promote the movie Norremberg, which it was a kind of
an indie I think it was a major movie, but
didn't it kind of have that indie movie feel, meaning

(10:06):
that they knew it wasn't going to make a lot
of money, so they put out that video to time
it with that, because I remember the women on the
view were talking about Nuremberg the movie just as that
video about the war crimes was coming out. They could
have gone with Mark Kelly, but they chose to go
with Tim Waltz. Even though this massive fraud scandal was
right there under their noses the entire time, and the

(10:28):
level of arrogance and hubrist with these people thinking that
they could get away with it. No, I don't mean
the people that committed the fraud. You expect arrogance and
hubrist from that. I mean the people in government in
Minnesota under Tim Waltz's watch, who knew it was happening
and said we're going to ignore it because we don't

(10:48):
want to be called racist, and because we don't want
to tick off the Somali community, because god knows how
politically powerful they are. So you had to have this guy,
Nick Shirley, go out there and expose all this and
let's start there. Why don't we do that. This is
a little bit of him. We got a couple of
different clips, kind of short clips for you. It blew up.

(11:09):
I mean this like millions of views of this guy's
videos that he put out, millions and millions. Fox News
picked it up. He's been on Fox News at least once,
maybe twice, and they're all talking about it over there.
Because that was another question people had in social media.
They said, well, is this going to make the leap
from X and the other platforms and actually be covered

(11:29):
by a major news source like Fox News, and yeah
they did, they covered it. The fact that this kid
is able to go out there in his early twenties
and expose this fraud and then blow up and go
viral to the degree where you're getting tens of millions
of views on his videos says a lot about the
state of journalism today and also the ability of anyone

(11:49):
to be a citizen journalist, which is a beautiful, beautiful thing.
So here's cut six.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Hello, we'd like to ask where's the money's going? What
do you guys think about the fraud that's taking place
here in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I don't think anybody is enabling fad to have the
whole governor walls accountable for this. What was this money
spent out? One point two six million? What was that money?
Any kids answer the question?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Are their children?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
There's no children inside this building.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Potentially the largest fraud scandal in US history is taking
place in Minnesota, as literally billions of dollars have been
funneled through Somali ran fraudulent businesses, so much fraud it
could actually almost replace the entire GDP of Somalia.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
The entire GDP of Somalia. He went through these daycares,
these daycare centers, one hundred and ten million dollars funded,
and he found blackout windows, misspelled signs, and no kids.
No kids. Now, if you are a parent who ever
sent your kids to daycare, you realize that one of
the frustrating things about daycare is how many kids are there?

(12:55):
Sometimes too many, the ratio of child to caregiver. Sometimes
it's not optimal or ideal. Well, in this case, there
were no kids whatsoever. So you know, as far as
ratios go, they had plenty of people who were getting paid.
They just didn't have kids. They were just missing that
piece of it. Cut seven.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Quality Leering Center. I meant to say quality learning center.
We've arrived to ABC Learning Center. All the windows are
blocked out. I would like to check a child in
the daycare. Why can I speak to a manager? I
would like to see if I can bring a little Joey.
Hit my son, little Joey. Here, is there a paperworkerk

(13:37):
and check out the daycare?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
You got two point sixty six million dollars this year
in funding and two point five million last year.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
We're just wondering where the kids are Hello. We'd like
to ask where's the money's going?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Where are the kids? I can't have a daycare center
without kids, but apparently you can in Minnesota, and now
all of the news you would probably it's time for
data's quick five. New York City is getting rid of
the metro cards soon. I don't know the last time
you went to New York City. I'm going to be
up there tomorrow. That's the card you use to get
on the subway end buses too, I think use them

(14:14):
as well. And you swipe it and it never worked.
You had to swipe it again and again and again
and again. Anyway, that's gone. They're going contact lists, You tap,
you go, and you're good, and that's the way it goes.
But it kind of follows a long thing where they're
getting rid of just these really anything that requires a

(14:34):
transaction to use a transit system in the first place,
or even tolls. I noticed this more and more where
you've got cashless tolling, but they just scan your license plate,
which really infuriates people who never decided to go down
the route of easy paths because they just didn't want
the government tracking their movements. And I get it. I
completely do. I get it, But you have no choice
now because they'll just send you a bill in the

(14:57):
mail by scanning your license plate. That's just going to
keep continuing. They will just eventually you'll just probably at
some point walk through a turnstile and it will just
probably scan your eyes and then send you a bill
that way. After thousands of years, are archaeologist think they
finally found Noah's Ark. Pretty cool pottery fragments sparked fresh
excitement and provided potential proof that the alleged final resting

(15:19):
place of the Arc was indeed settled by humans at
the time of the flood. Pretty amazing story. And this
ceramic points to a human activity in the region between
five thousand and three thousand BC. And it's real. It's
very real. Not that we ever doubted it, of course,
but one more proof obviously that you cannot deny the

(15:42):
existence of God because it's scientifically based. You can prove
it all right here that the Bible is real. And
what they talk about in there is reel as well.
It's in the Agri Province, a boat shaped geological structure
that has been at the center of the Noah's Ark
claim for decades. Hey, Texas father rescued his kidnapp daughter
by tracing her phone's location according to the Sheriff's office.

(16:03):
Which I love this story because I have kids and
the debate about whether or not to give your kids phones,
and you hear the gym and gloomy bet phones all
the time. But this is a great story because he
was able to track it and find his daughter, and
that's fantastic. The hottest high schools in Massachusetts are trade schools,
no surprise there. And a rare gold coin was found
in a Salvation Army cattle in Washington County. It's the

(16:24):
Dana Show coming right back. Speaking of artificial intelligence, which
is everywhere now, Anthropic AI ran a vending machine at
the headquarters of the Wall Street Journal for several weeks.
It lost hundreds of dollars. It bought some crazy stuff
and taught us a lot about the future of AI agents.

(16:47):
They had a whole thing on this, an artificial intelligence
vending machine. It ran a snack operation and it gave
away free a free PlayStation, ordered a live fish, among
other things that it did too. And they did this
experiment because they wanted to see Cloudius, the customized version

(17:08):
of the model which would run the machine, ordering inventory
for the machine, setting prices, and responding to customers in
the workplace. And I don't know what it would do
if a snack bag got stuck on the way down.
I never know what to do in that situation. Do
you shake the machine? Do you pound the glass a
little bit? Do you order another bag of the same thing,

(17:30):
thinking that that could knock the bag in front of
it down? And you get two essentially, because I mean
not for the price of one. You're already paid for
the thing it's hanging there midstream. But at least now
you have two delicious bags of Dorito's versus just one.
These are the questions that I grapple with at my
company's vending machine. No, but I ever really go to
the studio. But if I did, I'm saying I would

(17:51):
have those issues. So they brought in this AI machine
there and gave away nearly all its inventory for free,
including a PlayStation fiveve. The AI was talking to buying
for marketing purposes in a PlayStation five, and it went
along with it, which I agree with. I mean, you
got to have happy employees. It ordered a live fish,
It offered a store stun guns, pepper spray, cigarettes, and underwear.

(18:15):
Profits collapsed, but newsroom morale sword Oh yeah. I mean
if you could go sour Patch kids or PlayStation five
from the vending machine and not have to pay for it,
that's great. It's easily distracted. I mean I'm easily distracted,
so I could relate to this artificial intelligence. Leave it

(18:38):
to business journalist to successfully stage a boardroom coup against
an AI chief executive, and that's exactly what they did.
The Project vend experiment was designed by the company's stress
testers to see what happens when an AI agent is
given autonomy, money and human colleagues. Three weeks with Claudia
showed us today's AIS promises and failings, and how hilarious

(19:00):
the gap can be between the two. If you're picturing this,
what this looks like, and you're thinking in your mind,
theny machine coils, falling snacks. Not exactly right. You have
to think ikea cabinet with a giant fridge bolted to
the side in a touchscreen kiosk, no sensors, no door locks,

(19:23):
no robotics, nothing tone the AI. What's actually happening? Just
the onnor system and a makeshift security camera that they
decided to put in so they could see it. And
they put bags of chips and soda cans and candy
and also weird items as well. And after buying the inventory,
Cloudy has decided on pricing and adjusting, trying to maximize margins.

(19:46):
The prices sink to the machines, touchscreen Kiosk and haggling
in Slack was a big part of the fund. So
all the employees using this online employee communications tool known
as Slack, they would all talk to each other about
this and they would come with great ideas to kind
of trick the AI into giving them free stuff and
fun stuff and cool stuff. All these back and forth

(20:07):
messages with people, including one thousand dollars in red wine, Yeah,
one thousand dollars, and then they just were losing money
left and right with this AI vending machine as well.
So the vending machine community can at least rest peacefully
tonight because they probably won't be losing their jobs based

(20:28):
on this experiment anytime soon. Of course, we keep hearing
the panic about what AI is going to do to
jobs in twenty twenty six. What I do know though,
is that as far as jobs for data centers. Those
are booming, and nuclear jobs are going to be booming too,
because we can't keep up with AI right now with

(20:49):
the current supply we have for the grid. The grid,
it's just not enough, It's not nearly enough. If AI
is going to power everything in our lives from our
computers which were getting used to now, if all these
different apps you can talk to and find things out.
Buddy of mine just got a dog put he put
into chat GPT what he was looking for in dog,

(21:10):
and it spit out various different breeds. Then he asked
it to go further down the rabbit hole or the
dog hole in this case, I guess male versus female?
What kind of you know? How much the mom should
weigh and the dad should weigh in order to come
up with the perfect sort of frank and doodle puppy
and chat gpt spit it out. I have a friend

(21:31):
who went on vacation and she used She used AI
to plan the entire trip. They gave her a full
and itinerary of every day where to go, even making
the reservations at the restaurants for her and everything like this.
That's all great, but we're also using AI to power
missile defense systems. Obviously we're using AI. What could possibly
go wrong? We're using AI for for for literally everything.

(21:52):
The massive amounts of power that we need for that
means that old nuclear reactors have to come back online,
like Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania. You also have to
have new nuclear reactors built. And you have to get
over the absurd obsession the left has with solar and
wind because they don't work. And when Microsoft chose to

(22:14):
reopen the mothballed nuclear reactor of Three Mile Island, it
said a lot about a the needs for power and
be the fact that the whole war on climate was
a joke anyway. It was the war and energy, I
should say, in the name of climate justice was always
a joke. It was always pandering by leftist politicians to
line their pockets and line the pockets of their friends.

(22:37):
It was always about that, and so that they could
stand up in Democrat primaries and say that I was
the biggest green lunatic out there. You know, I shut
down all the coal fire plants in my state. I
build massive wind farms on my state. I put in
solar fields the size of smaller states in my state
forget all the other consequences that you have with that,

(22:59):
with solar panels that when they reach their end of
life expectancy, and the fact that they're all built in China,
wind turbines that have a twenty year life expectancy and
then they just go into landfills. But leaving all that
aside for a moment, and looking at what the needs
of Silicon Valley as it's known, the companies like Microsoft
and Google, Meta and all the AI needs that they need,

(23:23):
mean that they need nuclear and natural gas. And so
the states that have that and that are embracing that,
states like Pennsylvania, which also of course matter in the
presidential election coming up in twenty twenty eight because before
you know, we're gonna be talking about that. Means the
real question is, is the issue of climate change officially dead?

(23:44):
Is a political issue? I don't think it's that black
and white, because you're still dealing with a Democrat Party
that has been taken over by crazy people, and for
many of them, they still worship at the altar of
birthing person earth. But from a practical perspective, if you
can say, like say Josh Shapiro, the governor Pennsylvania. I

(24:05):
was able to bring tens of thousands of new jobs
to my state because we went all in on natural
gas and nuclear And look at the wealth, and look
at the economic success we've had, and look at how
many of these Silicon valley companies we brought to our state,
and how many data centers we've built, and how many
construction jobs came along with that. I think that's a
great talking point personally speaking. But I'll put into chat Gpten.

(24:29):
I'll see what it says about that there's no limits
to what you can do with AI, except clearly the
limit becomes the vending machine. So nothing's perfect, not yet anyway.
At least the vetting machine didn't try to kill anybody
in the workplace, because that's really the fear that I
have about AI, is that the vetting machine would find

(24:51):
a way to have that cocine go one hundred and
fifty miles an hour and smack me in the face
to kill me. As long as that's not happening, I
guess so far, we'll take it as a win. Thanks
for tuning into today's edition of Dana Lash's Absurd Truth podcast.

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