Dana Returns: Tucker's Hamas Defense, Charlotte Train Attack & Ben Shapiro Joins Us

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We cannot allow it to prave criminal element of violent
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We have to respond with force and strength. We have
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(00:23):
Fifty people were murdered in Chicago in recent weeks, with
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Law and order.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
We have proven that it can be done because we
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Speaker 3 (00:50):
This is a pretty unbelievable remark, not remark, but a
statement that's coming in from Potus and he holds up
up this photo. It was a pretty graphic photo too,
because I think that was right. The photo that he showed,
I think was the still the CCTV footage of this

(01:11):
woman being stabbed by this murderer. And I mean, he wasn't.
I don't think I've ever seen a president do that.
But it's incredibly important because the left is trying to
say that somehow it's I don't understand why they're so
against the act of enforcing the law and making streets

(01:38):
safer for Americans. Welcome to the program. Back behind the
mic after a work trips. It's not really vacation. It
was nice, but it was work and it's good to
be back with you. We're at the top of this
first hour here on Tuesday. And that was brand new
footage from Potus. I mean, Kane, what was that just
like a handful of minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Very put that out fifteen minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, brand new, So brand new video audio from Potus
on that because he's getting pushed back, which we're going
to talk about. We're going to dive into all of this,
because he's getting pushed back from Democrats because he is
wanting to go and clean up these crime ridden cities
that are all Democrat generationally Democrat run voters don't feel safe.

(02:27):
People are being targeted, and so as you saw with
this horrific story of this young woman who came to
the United States and is I mean, it almost seemed
as though she was doing everything she could to make
herself appear smaller to criminals. Right, she was wearing her hat,
she was sitting with her arms crossed. She was clearly

(02:48):
it seemed to me she was physically uncomfortable and the
seat that she was in, she was trying to kind
of diminish herself so she's not a target and then
she ends up getting stabbed. We're going to talk about this.
We're going to dive into the job the latest jobs number.
Were also going to talk about some of the big
things as well, some of the stuff that happened last
week that we got to talk about, and as well
as a couple of orders coming in from the White House.

(03:08):
At the top of the list, though this headline in
earlier this morning, Israel carried out strikes against senior Hamas
leaders in Cutter. I guess if the Hamas leaders didn't
want to come to Gaza, then Israel was going to
bring Gaza to these Hamas leaders in Cutter. They blew
up a building that was housing the terror group in

(03:29):
the capital city of Doha, And of course there's not
a lot of response just yet from Cutter, although they
say they condemn Apparently the Trump administration was notified about
the strike and Doha said that they were cowardly and
that it was a violation to international law. I would
imagine that housing terrorists is also a violation of international law,

(03:53):
because you have to remember these Hamas Terrists. They're hiding
out in Cutter and they're hoping that the relationship with
Hutter is going to insulate them from any kind of
penalties they have as being leaders of a declared terrorist entity.
So the Trump administration was apparently made aware was notified
about the attack, but Israel in their statement they said

(04:15):
it was a singular, solo, universal response, meaning that it
was not a joint operation and that there wasn't any
involvement from the United States. Really, I don't even think
that we know ahead of time that there I don't
think there's a confirmation that even Trump knew ahead of time.
He was just notified that it had happened. And so
one of the senior officials said that Khalid Michal was

(04:36):
amongst the leaders who were targeted. They said that Hamas
had this negotiating delegation. They've been dragging their feet with
any and all negotiations, and I you know, I mean,
I don't know how you still haven't released hostages. I
don't know how long it's going to take for them
to realize that when you carry out what you did

(04:57):
on October seventh, there's going to be consequences for itarticularly
when you refuse to really negotiate in good faith. And
so there was this proposal for a ceasefire. In the strip,
they said that apparently of the leaders that were in attendance,
that were pretending to negotiate some sort of cessation of
this terror, that they were struck. So apparently all of

(05:21):
the members. Hamas said that all of the members survived,
but that's not the first time. That wouldn't be the
first time that Hamas would lie about something, so take
it with a grain of salt. But they said that
they had a ceasefire negotiation delegation and that they survived
the attack. But apparently other news agencies are saying several
others were killed. According to apparently one of them was

(05:43):
the Saudi Channel, So apparently the target of the meeting
was called Summit of fire. Cutter has been the pretense
on the international stage is that they're trying to seem
as though they are the mediator and this ceasefire. I
think that they're trying to have it both ways, and
also they are a little compromised because they share a

(06:04):
giant energy field with Iran in the sea separating them. However,
they've also been more inclined towards the radical Islamism, the
radical Shia Islamism that we've seen. So this very interesting
coming this morning, this strike. And apparently this was even
after I mean, there were several warnings. There were several

(06:27):
suggestions that something was in the works as well, and
apparently according to the Wall Street Journal, Israel's ordered a
full evacuation of Gaza City because they're expanding the ground
an invasion. And again, for all of the people that
are criticizing it, you should have been telling Hamas to
release the hostages. Don't know what to tell you, guys.

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All they had to do was not be terrorists and
release the hostages. They have not released the hostages. So
why are you surprised? Do you think that if someone
broke into your house and kidnapped your family members that
you how would you respond if people were telling you
that you had no right to react, that you had
no right to go and try to get your family
members back. Because if you think that there's a difference

(07:09):
in that example and then in what is happening right
now since October seventh. Then sorry, you're part of the problem,
and you're trying to set these these these different conditions
on it to change the argument it's the same. So
this is all the latest that's happened. I mean, this
is just all. This is what everybody woke up to
this morning. And apparently this was from a couple of

(07:33):
days ago, Reuters had said that Cutter's prime minister was
urging Hamas in Doha. This is ahead of their official
sit down negotiations to accept the US back proposal for
a ceasefire and hostage release. Now, I would to me,
if that's what the Katari Prime minister is urging, it

(07:55):
kind of sounds like they need to make a deal
or there's going to be a consequence. But how long
have they had to make a deal, Guys, how long
have they had to release hostages? How is this anybody
else's responsibility or fault? But Hamas's, I mean it's a
rhetorical question. It's Hamasa's responsibility and Hamas's fault. So we've
got more on this as we get reactions in I

(08:16):
have to say, I like John Fetterman's remark. I don't
know if anybody saw this on X he had a
picture it was a gift of Winnie the Pooh sitting
in front of a honeypot, dancing with a spoon and
a knife, and he was re re well quoting an
Associated Press piece that said that the Hamas leadership and
Doha was targeted by an Israeli strike. So I would

(08:39):
say a shorts pass and a hoodie pass at this point, Kane,
I think both of them. Now some of the other
things that we've been seeing over the past few days.
Now we've got the Department of War. You know, that
is somewhat significant. I think it puts us on better
optical footing. We're going to talk a little bit about
this coming up. But the Department of War, they're renaming it.
They've apparently been changing it online and documentation, etc. That's

(09:01):
actually what it was, you know, what it used to
originally be. I mean I get it, you know, Defense
of the United States, et cetera. That's our constitutional obligation.
But Department of War, I don't know why that there's
hesitation and switching it back to what it was originally named.
Not going back to Gaza. But this is somewhat related.
Did you guys hear about Kane your favorite Greta Thunberg

(09:23):
Her flotilla was firebombed by a drone. I mean, I
don't know how many times they're going to attempt these
little attention seeking missions to what are they going to do?
Do you think they always need help? They always end
up needing more help than the gosins that they're apparently
trying to go and help themselves. Pretty unbelievable. I have

(09:44):
a column that's coming out in the Washington Times this
week that gets into this headline, which we're going to
talk about more in depth here coming up, but it
has to do with the Trump DOJ looking at ways
to ban transgender Americans from owning firearms. Now, there's a
couple of different ways to look at this. You could
look at this like it's a fabulous troll that's going

(10:05):
to get the left to defend gun rights, and interestingly enough,
don't think that they won't, because they absolutely will. These
are the same people that flew to El Salvador to
have Margarita's with Maryland Dad slash human trafficker kill mar
Obrego Garcia. So all of this obviously has come from
the spate of these mass casualty incidents where you have

(10:26):
a transgender killer who's behind the trigger, right behind the barrel.
So you could look at it as though it's a
major troll. You could look at it as though this
is a very concerning constitutional affront that is not going
to make its way out of the courts at all whatsoever.
Or you could also look at it as though it's
the DOJ merely deliberating whether or not they want to

(10:50):
suggest a proposal, which I think that the environment that
has been created by the left with the push for
red flag law, which is the usurpation of dupe process,
that created the environment for such a proposal to even
be taken seriously in the first place. So it's a
trial balloon to kind of gauge public reaction. We're going

(11:12):
to talk about this because you've got to be very
very careful individual rights when you're determining whether or not
someone should be considered a prohibited possessor, and it's a
deprivation of rights based on, you know, a legitimate issue
following due process. This was always done on an individual basis,
not a group basis, and I want to revisit a

(11:35):
couple of things where we've seen that implemented before the
Obama administration. Remember if you had to seek help from
a fiduciary in order to deal with your financial plans,
whether you were a Social Security beneficiary or you were
a combat veteran. Remember how the Obama administration was targeting
those individuals, like giant groups of people for to deprive

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some of this stuff here coming up. We got other
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And now all of the news, you would probably miss
it's time for Dana's Quick five.

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So let's see here. Why, oh why is Lebron James
writing op eds for CCP newspapers. I don't nobody is
NBA's Lebron James apparently wrote an op ed in a
Chinese newspaper expressing his adulation over the friends he's made
and how the sport of basketball connects people around the world.

(14:04):
Isn't that interesting? So he's getting some criticism for it
because yeah, it was in the People's Daily and that's
literally founded and financed and run by the Communist Party
of China, and his op ed basketball is a bridge
that connects us all it sounds so cringe. Apparently he
talks about the friendliness, passion and friendliness of his Chinese friends,

(14:25):
et cetera, et cetera, and he says, I'm once again
in China to start man X chapter with the fans here,
et cetera, et cetera, all that stuff. So I'm not
really surprised, because it's not he's always he's always been
quiet about CCP offenses. So no, the image of capitalism
has slipped to fifty four percent in the United States
because there are people. There are morons who can't do math,

(14:46):
and they apparently perceptions of socialism remain steady at thirty
nine percent positive Americans are now there's still more positive
towards capitalism than socialism. But honestly, fifty four to thirty
nine percent is one of the dumbest. What is wrong
with people? This is why I can't be an elected office,
because I'm like, round them up, those people, round up,
round them up, got it right, Yeah, that's what we're doing.

(15:08):
We're gonna round them up and ship them out of here.
I don't care if they were born here. I don't
care if they're nine generations here. We're going to send
you somewhere. But they said that in prior years, Americans
remained more negative than positive towards socialism. They're still a
little movement in the attitudes over time, but I can't
believe it's still thirty nine percent for socialism. That's kind
of insane. Also, the US is to cut some security

(15:28):
funds for European countries bordering Russia. Now, this is how
the Financial Times presents it, this is how it is.
In reality, these countries are actually paying more of their
own money towards their own GDP towards defense instead of
demanding that we taxpayers fund all of their militaries. Why
they sit back on their laurels and expect the United
States to do all of the peacekeeping and the defending

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No one can can plausibly claim that a Christian family
are in Hamas. Okay, so like, what tell me you
can't claim that they're in Jimas will simultaneously claiming that
Hamas is uh you know, grupu Jihatis their Islamic extremists,
which they also claim constantly, which I don't know if
that's true, by the way, seems more like a political organization,

(17:19):
but whatever it is, they're telling us constantly they're al Qaeda. Okay,
so it can't also be true that Christians are a
member of al Qaeda.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
Sorry, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
So I have to stop right at that line. I
was blown away by that, and I'm non Tucker for years,
and you know, I he was incredibly instrumental in getting
involved in helping like, for instance, when we were fighting
taking back our school board here from the far left,
welcome back, Dana lash with you. This discussion that he
was having I thought was one of the craziest things

(17:48):
that I'd ever heard, This idea that it is a
political organization, where he says, well, I'm not even sure
it's a it's an actually radical jihadi organization, political organization,
is that's what he was saying, really, because that's not
even what they say. Audio sound bite six. This is
Hamas commander Mahmad al Zahar, who well he outlines it here.

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He said there will be no more Jews or Christians
listen six.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
And.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Then all of a sudden that had it to London.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
He's saying yes. He's like, he's not even just talking
about Israel at this point, this commander, he's saying there
will be no more Christians either. And he's not the
only Hamas leader that has said this. Other Hamas leaders
have said have said that there will continue to be
October seventh, and that it won't just be limited to
Jewish people. I want to know where all of these

(18:44):
white Hamas apologists get the idea that Hamas only hates
Jewish people because they hate Christians too. That's why they
That's why they kill Christians, by the way, that's why
Christians have to pay jizia in other Arab dominated nations.
Go and look and see how Christians are treated in
Arab nations. Where do all of these I mean, it's

(19:05):
like white women acting like they're they're coming in to
save black Americans. That's what a lot of these white
Hamas apologists sound like. And they are apparently completely unaware
of Hamas's long established hatred of Christians. Oh, but because
you both dislike Jewish people, that that somehow you're just
going to hide the little Christian part until what are

(19:26):
you going to deal with that aspect of their hatred.
They hate anyone who is not also radically Islamist. Period.
This idea that it's a political organization, Oh, it's both
of them. See the problem with the way that the
United States and a lot of people, I would say,
like Carlson and others view this is that you're looking
at a religious, spiritual war and you're trying to prosecute

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it politically. And that is the problem because to these
radical Islamists, this is not a political thing. To them. Sure,
Hamas is a political organization. Hamas is so popular that
not only were they slated in twenty twenty one to
completely buy a landslide again win in Gaza and sidebar.

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If you think that that's not accurate, I will remind
you that every nation on God's Green Earth's and election
observers in two thousand and seven, and they also had
observers again to watch the polling process. You had the
United Nations, you had everyone from the EU. So yes,
it actually is verified that they are supremely popular, not

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just in Gaza where they won to O seven and
they won even support in West Bank, but in twenty
one they were slated with polls showing overwhelming support by
a landslide to take West Bank as well and completely
control the Palestinian Authority. So in terms of control, there
are no more moderates in that entity because the Palestinian

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Authority has been entirely taken over by that radical faction.
And I would say I would even describe other factions
within it as radical absolutely before all intents and purposes,
for the sake of this discussion, HAMAS is the one
that has it in its charter that it doesn't believe
in its neighbor to the North's right to exist. That's
the difference. That's one of the reasons why it's so

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supremely popular. It's one of the reasons why you have
generational support for Hamas. It's one of the reasons why
you have women who are eager to sign their sons
up to be martyrs for the terrorist cause. So for
the past I guess week and a half? Was it
a week and a half game? I guess, yeah. I

(21:35):
went up. I was with MRC Media Research Center, and
they're a great organization and they do a lot of
the stuff that you hear the left say on television
and the stories they try to bury. MRC catches them
when NewsBusters, Tim Graham. They do such a great job.
David Bozell, Brent Bozell. So I was with them, and
it was my first ever cruise. I'm still a little

(21:56):
weird about the boat because I yes I did have
jet lag, and yes I did have to take prescription
anti nausea. But that's a whole other discussion. But we
went all over in and around. We were in Amsterdam,
and we went all over Norway, and in Amsterdam, I
was just really shocked. I mean, granted, we were in
Amsterdam and we weren't like in the outskirts, so maybe
it's like a different you know, when you get outside

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of Amsterdam and Rotterdam and the Hague and Antwerp and
all of that. But I saw a lot of I
saw a lot of gods and stuff. When we were
in Norway and Oslo, I didn't see as much of it.
But when we got off the boat in Christiansend, which
is one of the southernmost seaports in Norway, I immediately

(22:38):
started seeing gods and flags and hamas propaganda and it
was pretty shocking. I did take some photos, although I
don't know if we I don't know if. Yeah, I
did take some photos. Sorry, you have to forget that
that was just one of them, because.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I just haven't met a job there. That censoring job
there was.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
I felt like a very proud intolerant of terrorism America.
And it's interesting because you know, I was talking to
actually on our way back, we were talking to a
Norwegian soldier and he was saying that how weird it
was that a lot of the people, a lot of
the immigrants that are coming in from Norway. And I
wrote about this, by the way, if you subscribe to Substack,

(23:17):
A lot of the immigrants that are coming in to
Norway that are from Arab nations. He's like, they're all
fighting age males. You know, you had this deluse, just
like anywhere else of people who wanted to enter illegally
and he said, they're all fighting age males and he
said every And I told him, I said, well, are
they and listening to serve as you have? And he
said no. So you have all of these people coming
in and they have their hands out for benefits. It's

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another here's another photo. This was in yet another. I
know you'll just have to ignore. It's me, you guys,
it's like you just met me. So yeah, I mean
you know I was holding a black stick right there.
That's exactly what it was. That's all it was, so
he said. So I told him, I said, so everybody
has their hands out for benefits and welfare, but nobody

(23:59):
wants to serve. And he said, yeah, that's that's actually it.
That's correct, That's that's that's it in a nutshell it
You've got to think about something here. Immigration. And when
a lot of people talk about immigration, especially on the left,
I think that they you know, we've had the discussion
before that they would like to hope to forgive me.

(24:20):
I'm pulling this up for a second. They they conflate
purposefully illegal immigration and legal immigration, and which is such
a disingenuous arguments, so disingenuous the way that it's done.
When you know, when we were up there, I was
amazed by the landscape. It was the furthest north that
I've ever been. I was amazed by the landscape. It

(24:40):
was absolutely beautiful. The sea was very I can't imagine
the beans on some of these vikings that were like, yeah,
we're going to build these long, wooden ships and launch
them in these seas that rage like they hate us. Yeah,
we're going to totally do that. And it's it's imagine.
I mean, it's very it was very inspiring and humbling.
But then you know, you have all of these like

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we were in Sandness, another part of Stavanger Sandness, there
were areas that you know were you know, you could
tell they had Gotsen flags in the window, et cetera.
Immigration used to mean assimilation, and it's the melting pot
e pluribus unum right from many one. And there's a
reason why that's the slogan for the United States, because

(25:23):
our strength comes from many with one purpose, the desire
to be free, the animating spirit of liberty. And at
some point the left decided that even the phrase melting
pot was offensive. Caana, I don't even know when that happened.
But like for ten years, you've been told you can't
even say that phrase anymore. This sentiment has no place
in Europe though, right because they have been throwing themselves

(25:46):
upon the sword to satiate this illegally emigrating population that
does not want assimilation, It does not want kinship. They
want complete vanquishment of their host that's being conquered. You.
When you immigrate to a country, you don't go to
change the country. You go to be part of what

(26:08):
is already there in existing. And that's previously, That's how
it was in the United States. But that's not how
it is anymore, and it's definitely not how it's been
in Europe. Nordic birthrates have been continuously plummeting for the
past twenty years. Part of the reason, and this is
the whole other topic of discussion, is the dwindling church attendance,

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dwindling practice of faith, because where faith diminishes, so too
does the creation of families. You have about five point
six million people in Norway. You had a million people
that immigrated in within the past what fifteen eighteen months.
Now you have the about three percent of the population

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being Muslim. Norwegian birthrates have held just barely though, especially
compared to like Finland and Sweden where they're just precipitously
just plummeted. But the friction is you're importing large numbers
of people from Muslim majority nations. That again, as I said,
there's no attempt for a similation, no attempt for kinsmanship.

(27:10):
There is no there's the idea of coexisting. It's we're
not seeing that. I mean, when I was over there,
I kept seeing there was tons of videos that hit
the hit social media. For instance, there was a man
in Denmark who was arguing with someone who had immigrated
in and the guy was the Muslim man was telling
the Danish Man that well, you'll have two kids, I'll

(27:31):
have five. We are going to outbreed you. You're going
to be exterminated. And that's a sentiment that has been
caught in various forms on video. Weirdly, in the past month,
that's been cropping up all over Europe. You've seen it
in Britain where they're even prevented from flying the Saint
Saint George's Cross. They can't even fly the English flag,
but the Gossen flag is completely acceptable. And if you

(27:55):
don't go by. If you don't adhere to that new rule,
then you're actually arrested. It's on believable. In Scotland, you
have the little girl who was forced to become Bautica
two point zero, carrying around a hatchet and a knife
because there was a guy who was following her around
and targeting her and her twelve year old sister. So
this is the I mean, Norway was not yet I think,

(28:17):
near the point of destabilization as the rest of Europe.
But how in the world did such a proud, fierce
nation of super tall people, by the way, they are
like the tallest people I've ever seen in my life,
super tall people that launched these wooden ships into angry
seas with no idea of the destination. How did they
find themselves at the spear's tip of a fanatically religious ideology,

(28:43):
one that bitches and whines like abused step children in
Western nations, but imprisons and murders Christians within its own nations.
That's where we're at. Spare me the idea that it's oh,
it's just a political organization. If that's what you think,
then you are so grossly unaware of this issue. You
shouldn't be talking about it on a national platform. You

(29:07):
have people who I put in my sub sec if
you subscribe that one to under my national sovereignty, and
they lace all these false premises with poison, and they
accuse those who resist of being who resist unsupportable mass migration,
of xenophobia or bigotry. And good more of people recoil
at stuff like that. Most would rather avoid an impugnation

(29:30):
of their own character than be accused of something so horrible. Right,
But the problem with doing so is that it allows
a light to go unchallenged. And that's the strategy. The
objection is an immigration. The objection is against unsupportable levels
of immigration, illegal immigration, and the refusal of people immigrating

(29:51):
to demonstrate some respect and assimilate into the previously existing
culture of the host nation. You're in our house and
these are our rules. Anybody who plays along with the

(30:13):
subj refuse, you're kidding yourself. A lot of Western nations, particularly,
this is asymmetrical warfare. It uses the stupidest laws and
lacks enforcement against nations that have entirely forgotten their sovereignty
and their responsibility that goes along with it. And you
have these elected leaders that have entirely forgotten their duty
to their citizens. They've outed to protect them, but they've

(30:34):
been accommodating people who seek to subjugate them, like you've
seen in videos now on the daily from the UK.
This is the problem. I mean, gone are the days
when men line up in redcoats and take turns being
shot at. Nobody prosecutes wars like that anymore. Battles are
not just won by bombs and bullets, by trade, by tariff,

(30:56):
and by invasion that is wrongly labeled asylum. And so
this is people who believe the lies that are being
told about this. They're conquering themselves. Europe is weak and
Europe is failing, and in many places it's already conquered.

(31:18):
You are witnessing the colonization of Europe. The left hates
the word colonization, but that's exactly what radical Islam is
doing to Western nations in Europe. They are colonizing it.
They are colonizers, just like they colonized parts of Africa,
just like they colonized Iran, just like they colonized Persian nations,
and try to appropriate their architecture, their culture, their creations,

(31:41):
their music. It's colonization, be accurate about it, and I'm
telling you the time has passed for polite conversation. You
have to have hard conversations about this because at some point,
this is not going to be a battle between Democrats
and Republicans. This is not going to be a battle
between Russians and Ukrainians. This is going to be a
battle between radical Islamis and everyone else. I wish Tucker

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Speaker 2 (33:20):
Like SAMs through the hour Glass. So are the days
of the United States.

Speaker 8 (33:25):
I want to be clear that like law enforcement isn't
to prevent crime. Law enforcement solves crime. Okay, that is
what they are supposed to do. They are supposed to
solve crimes, not necessarily prevent them from happening.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
For the law, this is what they're supposed to do.
It's wyat's call law enforcement. Second, the it's in the
title of what they are.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I'm so glad you got redistricted out.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I just can't believe that she went to on my
CDs in Saint Louis. Like, if I was in my
CDs the school, I'd be like, oh, who, we don't
know her. We don't know her because that's embarrassing. People
would be like, oh, Jasmine Crockett went to that Tony school.
I don't know if I want to send my kid
there because they might come out as stupid. Ugh, I know.
So coming up in our second hour, we got a

(34:23):
few things to dive into. We've been talking about not
just immigration, but also lawlessness and disorder. The media was
very very upset that you guys noticed that there was
a murder in Charlotte. They were very upset that you
guys saw the video, not that it happened, but that
you saw it and are talking about the video of
the girl getting stabbed by the man on the train.

(34:43):
So we're going to discuss that. We also the Epstein letter.
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Speaker 9 (35:52):
Really over the weekend. Elon Musk, Charlie Kirk, other Trumpelne
figures succeeded in making this senseless death a symbol of
big city crime. We heard President Trump asked about it
yesterday when he was heading home from New York city.
He didn't see them know much about it. He said
he would get briefed, and then today Trump did.

Speaker 7 (36:08):
Know all about it.

Speaker 9 (36:09):
That's exactly what has happened here. This story has trickled
up from local news to social media and now to
the President's attention, and it's being used, as you said, Brian,
as a political symbol with MAGA media calling for more
forceful punishments and more incarceration. I have to say, some
of the replies to Musks, some of the comments around
this story are baldly racist, stoking fear of African Americans

(36:31):
because this man attacked a white woman. The open racism
on sites like x Today, it's eye popping.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Did he talk about the open racism when that man
was captured on video saying quote, I got her, I
got that white girl. You know that video exists, right,
I didn't really want to show it because as he's
saying it, blood is dripping all off that knife, all
into the floor. He goes over at one point and
he stands by the drawer and you can hear the

(36:59):
room tell as we would call it, of the accelerating subway,
and you can hear it on the rails, and then
you can hear him say I got that wigirl and
he kept repeating it over and over again. So does
Brian Selter want to talk about the racial animus that
would drive someone to do that? And then say what
he said? I mean, I can't really take lectures from

(37:20):
people who sanctioned the burning, looting, and murdering during two
summers of riots in the wake of George Floyd. I mean,
good grief. They live to make it racial. White newscasters
on networks like CNN and MSNBC, they love making things racial.

(37:43):
Their entire advertising apparatus is built upon racism. That's why
they are entirely silent when you have mass shootings that
take place every weekend in urban areas like Chicago, but
then it's wall to wall coverage if it's a predominantly
white school district somewhere in the suburbs. The racial animust

(38:04):
literally fuels the money that flows into their bank accounts.
That's how he gets paid. So spare me this idea
that suddenly you have an aversion to racial animus when
your entire career has been made on it and those
are facts, this idea. They're so upset that you notice this.

(38:26):
They're so upset. Where was boy? We really needed a
Daniel Penny at this moment, didn't we remember how Brian
Stelter and people like him were so aggravated at Daniel Penny. Oh,
he was for sure a racist because he targeted this
poor Michael Jackson impersonator. I mean, forget the fact that
the guy was so violent, he already had a warn

(38:47):
out for his arrest, that he had punched a woman
and an elderly woman in her face and broken her nose,
shoved another one on the train tracks, threatened to kill
people repeatedly on that train platform, and his family only
came around when they thought there was some money to
be made on it. No, no, no, Brian Stelter and
other people like him at MSNBC and CNN, they were
convinced that date people like Daniel Penny, people who stood

(39:09):
up against threats, did so because they were motivated by race.
But here you have a man who repeatedly stabs a
girl in the neck and literally says, I got that way, girl,
and you're gonna go ahead and excuse it, even if
there wasn't a racial component to it at all whatsoever,
which I'm sorry, but there is. There is a little
bit to the crime. There is a little bit to
that going on, behalf of what that killer said. But
also the way that, like I said, Stelter and these

(39:32):
other white network heads, the way that they that they
cover these stories and present them to the public, they
make everything racial. Everything, even if there isn't a racial component,
They're going to make it racial. Even if there isn't one,
they're gonna make it racial just how it is, how
they've always done. They would rather do that than talk

(39:54):
about the lawlessness and disorder. I mean, that's not the
only one. More. This is audio. Somebody three, there's there again,
this is CNN. Listen to this. This is garbage.

Speaker 10 (40:07):
You mentioned the thing about cashless bail. I think this
is a big challenge that we have. Would you have
felt better if there had been cash bail and the
mom had come and put down a thousand dollars to
let him out. It's not about cashless bail or no
cashless bill. It's about the fact that we don't know
how to deal with people who were hurting in the
way this man was hurting.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Hurt people, hurt people.

Speaker 10 (40:27):
What happened was horrible, but it becomes an opportunity for
people to jump on bandwagons, and then for someone like
Charlie Kirk he should be ashamed of himself. No one
mentioned the word race.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
White people hurt people. Guess who really got hurt? Oh yeah,
that's right, the woman named Irina who was stabbed in
the neck, right, she was the one who was actually hurt.
I guess they've forgotten all about her right now, they're
victimizing a murderer. You can't win with these people. You
cannot win with people who are going to excuse criminality.

(40:59):
And that's just it. I mean, here you have this
entire panel falling all over themselves saying oh well, I
mean Van Jones was saying that there was no evidence
that she was attacked because of her skin color. But
then again, literally the guy was on camera, if I
have to play it, I will I have it. I
mean the idea he said it on camera repeatedly. So

(41:26):
are we not going to address that aspect of it?
I mean, he literally targeted her because she was a
white girl sitting on the subway and seeing it is
trying to make excuses for it. Not every single act,
not every criminal act, is one that's born in racism
or prejudice or sexism. But this one was. And the
way that the media is reacting to it is the

(41:46):
way that they always react to it is because they
live on racial animus. I'll say it again for the
people who read with pictures the drive buys. Not every
single action of act of criminality is born and racism, right,
get over it. It's not. This one was. I mean again,
we have the video. I hesitate to show it because

(42:09):
there's blood in it and it's dripping all over the
floor from his bloody knife efforty just plunged it into
the neck of this girl. You know what else gets me?
The way these people sat there on the train. This
is like a horror scene. I don't know. I don't
even There's this scene from the Exorcist that is a
terrifying as what is in the video. All these people

(42:32):
are sitting there. He gets up and stabbed her and
she starts suffocating to death, and people sit there. Finally
people did come and help her, but people on the
train sit there. How many times have you seen videos
where people just sit there? Listen, Wan has the audio.
We'll play the audio for you because I hesitate to
show it for him. Yeah, yeah, blood all over the place,

(43:01):
blood dripping all over the floor. He's walking into another
train car saying it. And then people who maybe don't
realize that he just stabs someone, they're like, wait what,
and then they see he's got a knife, and then
they see, oh my gosh, it's bloody and it's dripping
all blood all over the floor. I mean, there's you
can see it in the video, all these people that
sat there on that train. It's because society. This is

(43:24):
why I'm I talk about self defense so much, because
it's not even about firearms. There is an effort underway
to make people not want to defend good, not want
to defend themselves or defend against evil when it acts.
That is a very real thing. I I the woman

(43:46):
who sat next to her, who got up and walked away.
What is wrong with you? What is wrong with the society?
I am? It's true shocking. And the other thing as
well is we are also being conditioned to feel like

(44:09):
it's mean. If our gut instinct tells us something about someone,
it doesn't matter if somebody is black or white. If
they look menacing, they look menacing, it doesn't matter. Women
can be the same just as men. But if somebody
looks menacing, they look menacing. And when the girl is

(44:31):
sitting there, when she gets on the train, she's sitting there,
she's wearing a hat. I'm looking at this, I am
getting the impression that she is aware of something in
that car, in that train car, a subway car. She
feels the unease, and she the way she's sitting, it's
like she's trying to make herself smaller. And the way

(44:52):
she recoils and brings her legs in and just kind
of goes into this fetal position after he stabs her.
She was doing and everything she could to make herself
appear inconspicuous and not a target, not attractive as a target,
not a threat. And this is one of the reasons

(45:13):
why I also bring up the trans issue. Women are
told to ignore their gut instincts, and they're shamed when
they want to react to them. You are shamed if
you pick up on something in public, and you're made
to feel as though you're mean because you were reacting
to it, when really it's literally years of flight or
fight response and your body's recognition, subconscious recognition of a

(45:39):
perceived threat, and you are told to ignore this biology,
that it's mean to react to what your body, your
body's biological response to a subconsciously perceived threat. It is
so incredibly abusive and damaging. The other thing that the

(46:01):
president while this was the DOJ. I have a column
coming out in the Washington Times about this. The Trump
DOJ is looking at ways to ban transgender Americans from
owning guns. Here's the issue with us. There are I
think there's three ways to look at it. That it's
a troll that's going to result in the left defending

(46:22):
gun rights, and they will again remember Kilmore Abrego Garcia,
the Maryland dad they went to literally flew to Al
Salvador to have Margarita's with him. It's also a serious
policy proposal that will infringe up on Second Amendment rights
and wouldn't make its way out of the courts. You
could look at it like that. You could also look
at it as though the DOJ is only deliberating. They
haven't proposed anything yet. But the fact that we have

(46:45):
this environment towards even could be even considered is alarming.
There already exists numerous court processes to adjudicate somebody mentally unfit,
and Republicans haven't helped because they and Democrats have been
arguing that red flag law is like a means to
an end, sacrificing due process. And again, constitutional rights should

(47:08):
never be a casualty of legal expediency. The process exists
for a reason. It's a safeguard against abuses. And you
have to think our founders will well, we're very well
versed in this after defeating the British when this was proposed.
Determining mental defectiveness is done by an individual, not a

(47:32):
group basis, and I will caution people on this, everybody,
from combat veterans to postpartum mothers. You are opening the
door to probably to one of the most dangerous things
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Speaker 4 (48:37):
And now all of the news you would probably miss.
It's time for data's quickfive.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
A Republican bill, and Ohio is allowing you is going
to aims anyway to allow utility companies to limit customers
energy usage. It's Representative Roy Klopfeindstein from Havelin. He said
that the measure had han't been assigned a committee they're
talking about. He's ah, I think he's Ohio a lawmaker.

(49:05):
But what why are we having energy problems? Why would
we have to limit I'm gonna tell you, I'm not
gonna have my energy. I would not have I will
I will literally ryt. I'm not threatening, not like like idly.
I actually will ryt kane, I will stomp on some shrubs. No,

(49:25):
I actually am I would take to the streets over this.
That's that's a major issue. Let people get what they
pay for. Lumber prices are flashing a warning sign for
US economy that's coming out of the Wall Street Journal.
They said, wood prices are sliding, mills are cutting back
because of uncertainty over tariffs and a building slump. Well, yeah,
we've got to have more deals cut and yes, you

(49:46):
are going to have prices increase in certain things because
it's literally how tariffs work. It's supposed to be leverage.
I get it, it's a tactic. But I will also
warn that the White House has got to get all
these deals buttoned up in order to reverse this and
to stop that. So that's we all knew that going
into it. The twenty twenty five American dream, this is
depressing will cost you five million dollars. What who decides this?

(50:10):
This is a It's an interesting piece in Newsweek, although
they bury the lead like a million paragraphs down, which
I can't stand. No one. It's like how you go
to a recipe find out like a recipe online. I really,
I don't care about your life. I don't care about
your kids, I don't care about your house. I don't
care about anything. Just give me your stupid food recipe
or shut up. Give me the recipere get out. There's
actually a website that you can put the recipe link

(50:31):
into and it does all that. It strips it all out.
Did you know that? I swear to you it is.
It's real. I can't remember it right now. I have
it saved, but it's true. Anyway. They're saying that the
American dream, especially when you look at retirement, et cetera. Yeah,
it's like five million dollars. Long story, short saved you
a click. Let's see. Scott Besson apparently got into a
fight per Politico with an administration rifle and threatened to

(50:52):
punch him in the blanking face, which makes me like
Scott Besson even more. We I mean, if you're just
pleased say it. I like the fact that he's very
forthright about it. He uh threatened to punch top housing
finance official Bill pult in the blanking face. Yeah, that
sounds about do you when you look Scott Bessen seem

(51:17):
like that.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
It's like a timid guy that knows a lot about finance.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Yeah, he seems can be real. I don't mean to
be disappeared. He seems like a dork kind of Yeah.
So it's like weird. When a door is like I'm
gonna punch you in your blanket face, I'm like, you're
a spicy dorg. What all right? So we uh, let's see.
Israeli start up Red Sea Biotech wants to replace donors
with lab grown blood from stem cells. I don't like that.

(51:45):
I don't like and look again, high, I don't even
have a roomba, don't even have that. Why does it
need to be lab grown? The only thing that's okay
for lab grown is diamonds. Oh it is to stop
acting like somehow because kids mind it with their hands
that it's more romantic. Shut up. I can't even stand
these people that are like, no, I'm not gonna have this.

(52:05):
Stop it. It's a rock. I mean for crine out loud.
Let's see here. You're welcome. Also, labor market growth slows dramatically.
We got some jobs numbers that we're gonna have to
dive into. But we got to talk about the guns
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Speaker 11 (53:50):
In the unlikely event that you find yourself the victim
of a home invasion, we are urging citizens not to
take matters into their own hands. While we don't want
homeowners to feel pow powerless, we urge you to call
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Speaker 3 (54:12):
This is one of the Chris I saw this when
what was it like over the weekend? And I to
say that I was shocked is it's putting it mildly.
That's in Canada, and they were telling people, well, you know,
if you're attacked, if you're dealing with a home invasion,
you know, don't take matters into your own hands. Go

(54:34):
ahead and comply. No, no, no, no, what happens. I
have there's two sayings that I like that are not
my own sadly. I took them from a friend that
friends that we trained with people. First off, home invasions
in my house you leave in a bag. I'm not kidding.
I have zero problem with it. I will sleep so
soundly at night. We will make a mess for the

(54:56):
medic and we'll make it really interesting for the morgue.
That's exactly how home invaders should be dealt with, and
that's how that's our rule in our house. So your
family will have to gather your pieces like you know,
you're playing jacks. That's what'll happen. This is what I

(55:17):
was talking about, this idea, and we're gonna talk more
about the train thing too. This idea, it's not just
about firearms. This is also about defense, period. This is
about defense, self defense and the thought that it's mean
to the criminal if you are defending yourself against the criminal,

(55:41):
that somehow the criminal's life is more valuable than your
own's or that of your families. And you can see
why Canada is the way it is, and that I
can you imagine something that would never go over here
in the US, or would it. Let's go to this
column that I have that's coming out in the Washington
Times this week. You know, we were talking about this system
moment ago. The president, well the DOJ, not the President.

(56:06):
The DOJ has proposed they're deliberating a proposal. So they've
been proposed they're deliberating a proposal as to whether or
not they want to block transgender individuals from buying firearms. Right,
here's the problem with that. You when you are going
through the process of adjudicating someone and the legal term

(56:27):
is mentally defective, that's done on an individual basis. It's
not a group basis. It's done individually. Remember how previously
the Biden administration said that white supremacy was the biggest
threat to the security of the United States. So suppose
going on this precedent, then we then just start, you know,

(56:47):
targeting white Americans because of this asinine edict from the
previous administration, right I or or how young black males
gang activity are a major driver of crime in cities
like Chicago. So so are we going to start just
disarming all under thirty black men in the country in

(57:12):
citing that precedent? You've got to be very very careful
about going after entire groups. Look at veterans. I know
you all remember this This was in twenty fifteen. The
Obama administration wanted to ban Social security beneficiaries from legally
purchasing firearms if they required assistants to manage their affairs.
And it was something that also targeted combat veterans. It

(57:35):
was just a broad application. It wasn't something that was
deliberated or determined on an individual basis. This is the
problem transgenderism actually, and I think this is wild. I
don't agree with it. It's not classified as a mental illness.

(57:55):
It's only considered a diagnosis. Transsexualism Previously, I mean, at
least in like twenty thirteen, used to be considered a
mental illness, but now transgenderism in twenty twenty five is
only it's only considered a diagnosis, which I think is
I don't agree with it, but I'm just saying I
think it's interesting. I don't know the legal pathway of

(58:15):
I guess you have to work within the what you
have to have it classified as a mental illness the
way that transsexualism was. I mean, what is the I
mean you see why all the you could make up
all these words, and then it's like, how do you
invoke certain legal rules because the words are entirely made

(58:37):
up and entirely arbitrary. It's weird. The problem is this
can't you can't approach mental illness as a one size
fits all kind of thing. First off, I don't even
think a proposal like this would make it through the courts.
It would never make it through the court system. Secondly,
you have to preserve due process. I know that Democrats
and a number of Republicans have really been against that,

(59:00):
and they have promoted red flag laws. And just so
you know, red flag laws literally is the suspension of
due process. Anyone who says that, well, you can have
red flag laws as long as you respect due process,
that's the stupidest thing. That's like saying you're going to
get a little bit pregnant. That's so stupid because it
doesn't exist. It's the whole thing is the removal of
due process. You are considered guilty until you prove yourself innocent,

(59:23):
after the penalty is rendered, and most of the times
it's an ex parte process, meaning the penalty is rendered
and you have no idea that any move is being
even made against you until after the fact. That's how,
and then you have to pay in order to you
have to hire an attorney, you have to pay the
court fees. You have to pay thousands of dollars to

(59:45):
fight back and clear your name. That's how that process works.
So people who say, well, so long as it protects it,
it doesn't. There's not a single state in which there
is literally not a single state in this union where
it does. It's a suspension of due process. You cannot
start removing the cornerstone of this republic for expediency. You're

(01:00:06):
sacrificing constitutionality which you will never reclaim for expediency or
as a way to pick up the slack for laziness.
I know it's difficult to go through the court process,
but it is a feature of the system for a reason.
It's not a bug. It's a feature of the system
because you're talking about deprivation of rights and it should

(01:00:29):
be taken as a very serious thing. So I can't
imagine how this would not be weaponized by future Democrat administrations.
I just don't. I just can't imagine how it wouldn't
be the reason that we have these protections in places
because they are safeguards against abuse. Now, maybe this proposal

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is nothing more than a trial balloon to kind of
gauge public support. That's it, Maybe you know, but do
you realize again, all of the variables we've already had
previous administrations. Try to target the elderly, We've had previous administrations,
try to target combat vets. What if you are a

(01:01:09):
post part of mother and you have baby blues? What
if suddenly, citing a precedent such as this, if this
proposal is in fact proposed and implemented, how then could
how no one's exempt? You're going to put a chilling
effect on people that would try to even seek help
for any kind of mental health issue. And keep in

(01:01:33):
mind that most people who are dealing with a mental
illness are only dangerous to themselves, and not every person
who's dealing with a mental illness is dangerous, nor are
they prone to violence. This just encourages ignorance where it
concerns mental health issues. This is like the ignorance level
of COVID all over again, just in a different genre. Now, so, no,

(01:01:59):
now do I think that body dysmorphia is a mental illness?
I absolutely do. Is it a mental illness that is
grave enough to substantiate a deprivation of rights? That's what
the process is for and that would be something you
would have to determine that on an individual basis. Anything
less than that is anti constitutional. There's no way it

(01:02:20):
would make it through the muster of the Court's no way,
and nor should anyone support it. I it is. It
promotes a grotesque misunderstanding of mental health. And like I said,
during a time when it seems like more people, not
fewer people need assistance with mental health issues, you're putting
a chilling effect on all this. It's uh, it's unfortunate, unfortunate.

(01:02:49):
So this uh issue too, pulling this story up, speaking
of self defense on the train with the young woman
and the whole process of adjudicating someone unfit. This individual,

(01:03:09):
the killer in this case. Apparently there was a North
Carolina judge that released him. He had been arrested I
don't know how many times prior fourteen times. He had
a rap sheet that was quite long. He was arrested
for misuse of the nine to eleven so the nine
one one system. He was arrested for a number of

(01:03:31):
different things. He's got a rap sheet, by the way,
but apparently at one point he was diagnosed with schizophrenia.
His mother started the process. She said that he became
so aggressive she had to kick him out of her home.

(01:03:51):
He was placed under psychiatric monitoring for two weeks. He's
already been involuntarily committed, so he's a prohibited possessor. He
was involuntarily committed. He got diagnosed with schizophrenia in twenty fourteen.
She had to kick him out of the house. He's
beat up his sister, he's armed, robbery, all kinds of stuff.

(01:04:13):
And despite all of this. Back when he was arrested
one of the last times, and this is this judge
I was talking about. This was on a charge of
misusing the nine to one one system, where he was
saying that there was some sort of man made substance
in his body controlling him. So he called nine one one.
They let him go. They let him go. He didn't

(01:04:35):
have an address and he was a flight risk, but
they let him go. He had a written promise to
appear at the next court hearing. He was allowed to walk,
and then he went and murdered someone. This is that
restorative justice that gets people killed. Fourteen times. His mother

(01:04:57):
started the process. Looks like she just ended up he
was so she just kicked him out. Sound alike. He
I mean involuntarily committed. He was involuntarily committed once already.
We've I do think that there is a debate to
be had over what to do with people like this,
that maybe they don't even have anybody in their lives

(01:05:18):
that can go through this process and either have them
involuntarily committed or get them the help they need. I mean,
what does the society do? This is a question for
the capital and libertarians. What does the society do when
you have dangerous people out on the street and the
family doesn't want to hold them responsible. I'm going to
tell you something. Removing due process, you know, like with

(01:05:39):
the transgender gun roll thing, that's not going to make
people like this guy's mom make it make it more
likely that she will stay with the process to have
him adjudicated unfit. He was already unfit anyway. He was
involuntarily committed. It's removing due process from others doesn't make
any doesn't make the innocence safe, Removing their due process

(01:06:00):
doesn't make it safe for anybody. He had already been
in prison for five years for arm robbery here immediately,
I mean has got you watch him grow up in
his mugshots. Actually That's the thing I'm realizing here, I'm
looking at all his mugshots. You watch him grow up
in his mugshots. That is unbelievable. But the judges, the
judges kept letting him go. Domestic disturbance, he was let

(01:06:23):
go being up a sister. He was let go all
of these previous charges. He was let go, letting career
criminals walk free, and then they go and kill people. Yeah,
that is an issue. Apparently the mom wanted him to
be locked up. She said that she's not making excuses

(01:06:44):
for her son. That quote. What he did was atrocious,
it was horrible, and it was wrong. She says he's
not a victim. She says she wanted to speak about
his arrest to highlight how the system failed and things
got to this point. She said that he started seeing
weird things at some point. He's served five years on
an armed robbery charge. She got him evaluated, he got

(01:07:06):
more aggressive, She got him involuntarily committed a court order.
They placed him for monitoring for two weeks. He got schizophrenia.
He became homeless because she had to kick him out.
He was so aggressive, So she washed her hands of it.
So what happens in that case, when someone washes their hands,
at what point does it stop being the family's responsibility

(01:07:29):
and it starts being society's responsibility. These are tough questions
that people have to ask because more and more people,
I mean, I feel like this is becoming You're starting
to see this more and more also, because we live
in a society where you're told that it's mean if
you try to get help for people. You Apparently, you

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Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time
for Florida man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
I don't know why with the cow in there every
time gets me. Okay, let's where do we start. Let's
start with this Florida man. Okay, So this is a
big o headline. A bartender stabs a customer who is
also a Florida man. They got into an argument over
They got into an argument over a bar tab and

(01:10:05):
then one of them made crude remarks about the other.
The others dead. Sorry, dead mother. There's a lot. There's
a lot to Oh, who would have thought with guy
with face tattoos? Let's see so he oh, he stabbed
him ten times. It's called Grumpies Underground. You know. Any

(01:10:26):
place that looks like that with a handmade sign just
screams total legit. Right. Jason Rosario, thirty, faces a charge
of attempted second degree murder at Grumpies Underground bar in
Orlando because of the problem because he uh uh stabbed
a dude ten times, so apparently long gosh, let's go

(01:10:48):
with this dramatic story, all right, So the cops responded.
They were flagged down by a woman that had blood
all over her. She said she was in an alley
behind the bar too, men were fighting. A man brush
past her, so there's a stabbing. They walked back to
the bar. Patron alerted her the blood on their hands.
Blah blah blah. Cops interviewed them. They said the victim
happened because someone said that they could go. I can't
say that at all on air. I can't say this
one either. They made some comments that I can't repeat

(01:11:10):
on air, something about somebody's dead mom. And then the
guy came back said, let's take the situation outside. They
did stabbed him ten times. Now he's in jail. There
you go. It's a long story. It's the roadhouse. You
be nice until it's time to not be nice. Well,
what if they call my mom a hoort?

Speaker 5 (01:11:26):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Is she? I mean, it's just words that are put
together to elicit a response. Only the week respond, a
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and now the archaeologists are investigating. What'd you find, my dude?
They said it could be a wrecked vessel. How much
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Hello radio land, tis I your hostess. I've come back
from the North. We are here at the starts of
this third hour of radio. Welcome. I have no idea
whim talking like that. It seemed fun to do at
the time. Welcome Dana, lash with you. Uh, don't forget

(01:13:35):
we got the chat at Rumble and you can uh
live street. You can watch us do the radio show.
We don't have teleprompters, so I have a screen that
I look down at too for the drive bys. I
always want to just WoT that up that you can
watch us do radio channel through forty seven Direct TV
watch us there. So I was in Norway with MRC
for like a week and a half and I had

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brown cheese. It's like the way of cheese with goats
milked the process and then like you boil it down
and caramelize it and it gets and then you slice
into cheese and you put it on a waffle with
some marmalade. And I had it with a pint for
second breakfast and it was delicious. And a town called Schuldern.
I did kind of learn how to pronounce some of
the town's names. You'll be very pleased. I did go

(01:14:17):
on a cruise. Would you guys know my thing about cruises?
Do I like the cruise boats? I don't know. But
I did have to take prescription anti nausea. Big tip
by the way, big thanks to have All Family Pharmacy,
who doesn't even have a live plan for today, but
All Family Pharmacy forget me them drugs because it's the
only way I was your girl was staying on that
boat because the North Seas are angry, man, and they

(01:14:41):
don't like you, and they it's like the sea was
trying to throw us off for a while. It was
like a bucking bronco. And so I was. I had
all the you know, I was taken all the anti
nausea meds and it worked. And people were like, oh,
you need to try some ginger bad. I love you,
but that's not gonna work, Blindlin. A little lemon and
ginger ain't working for me. Okay, I need an RX strength.

(01:15:04):
So thanks to a family pharmacy for making that happen.
So yeah, we did the boat thing. I didn't even know.
And we got meat and potatoes to get into and
we're going to talk to my friend Ben Shapiro. I
used to work with him or Bright Bart back in
the day. He's gonna be on at the bottom of
the hour. But I did not know that it was
a whole culture. Did you know that Kane Cruise ships

(01:15:25):
are like a whole culture. I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
I didn't know. I didn't know that. And there there
were a lot of spaces on the boat, and there
were like big. I walked around like I can't believe
all of this is on a boat. That expression on
my face the whole time. But yeah, it was interesting.
And then we got to go and see a lot
of very cool We got to this little bitty tiny
village in Norway, Shouldern. It's at the end of the

(01:15:49):
sonyan Fjord. Yeah, I think that's it, And okay, I
have a story. So trolls are everywhere, right, So we
go to this tiny, tiny, little village and you get
off and walk a mile and that's great. You know,
you're out nature. It's beauty. It's so beautiful. You think
it's fake, right, You're you're like this is some Lord
of the Rings, Like there are gonna be some orcs

(01:16:10):
that pop out here at any moment.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
I feel like, you know, we're we're in Rivendell. It
felt like we were in Rivendell. So anyway, we uh
go and we're in Shoulden and they were amazing, and
I uh we go into I guess they're like tourist
information place and we were learning about the staved churches
and all this stuff. And there were trolls, troll dolls

(01:16:36):
and troll figurines and you know how some people put
some geese in front of their houses. Okay, it's trolls
there instead of the geese, it's trolls. And my husband
just like offhanded, asked this one what very tall woman.
She clearly she was Norwegian. She was like five thousand
feet tall. And they were all like, they don't age.

(01:16:58):
I think they're vampires. And this other woman, I swear
she had to be ninety. She had like long white
hair that was in a braid. I mean like they
all look like shield maidens that were there anyway, And
he's like, well, can you tell us about the trolls,
Like is it like, you know, kind of a funny thing.
Is it a mass hut? And she goes, well, you know,
if you look up into the mountain, I can't do
the accent. If you look up into the mountain and

(01:17:20):
you might see, she said, like a glint of light.
It could be a troll. We had no idea if
she was being serious or not, but she scared the
hell out of us. We had no eye I felt like,
you know how Kane says that he old people scare him.
So it was like I couldn't tell if it was
like it was I didn't know what to do. She

(01:17:42):
was like not. She was so serious and she was
telling us this, and we're like, oh my gosh, they're
to rolling them out, like what is happening. You would
have been terrified, Kane. Other old people were bigger than you.

Speaker 7 (01:17:54):
It sounds, and you're a tall dude.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Yeah, the average size and all the old people are
bigger than you. Drink, they just get taller.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
I don't know, you'll be honest with them.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Yeah, you would have. You would have been like, I'm
gonna go back to the book.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
I'd tell them. I just don't assume they're innocent. That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
I'm just saying we made friends with some animals, and
you know, I mean, there's just beautiful, absolutely beautiful up there.
They are actually thinking. So David BISELV Media Research Center
was telling me that Norway is considering banning ships that
use like diesel or fossil fuels. They haven't fully banned

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diesel ships, but they've mandated zero emission operation for smaller
ships and for larger ships by twenty thirty two in
their fjords to reduce pollution. And they said that you
have to use zero emission the whole time we were
out there, it was super rainy and cloudy except for

(01:18:54):
like a day. So I don't know how the how
the how that would work with the solar power. But
are they going to do that with their airplanes too?
I'm curious. Is it just the boats or I don't
I don't know how some of those towns live, those
towns villages. I don't know how. I don't know how

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some of those villages unless it's the tourism coming in
from And I am not a cruise person. So it's
the first ever large boat I've ever been on, and
I'm still not used to it. Uh, But I don't
know what because some of the some of the ways
you could only get there easily to access some of
these villages are literally by boat. So are they going

(01:19:36):
to do this with their planes too? Are they going
to have like zero zero emission planes? Would you want
to be on like a hydro powered or solar powered plane?
We redacted? No, No, thank you, kall y. I don't
want to be on anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
No angry over that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Oh the sea was giving us a giant middle finger.
At one point I watched I looked out the window
and like the water came up and it was pretty man,
I'm telling you, it was pretty pretty wild. So I
don't know what that They're all obsessed with zero emission.
There's a lot of modernity. I hate modernity. I've seen
a couple of news articles occur or published in the

(01:20:19):
past week that talk about a return to like maximalism,
which just I mean, I don't like the modernity because
I think it's insufferably bougie and pretentious. And I also
think modern architecture looks like garbage and everything ends up
looking like border Lands in ten years. It all looks
like trash. There's one thing where when we were in Amsterdam,

(01:20:39):
the modern architecture was killing my soul. It was killing
my soul. Cane part of it was rotting and withering
away because it was exposed to modern architecture. And I'm
like a vampire to sunlight. With some of that stuff,
I just I can't, I can't handle it. So m yeah,
that was the only Those are my only criticisms, if

(01:21:00):
I had to say anyway, the but it was it
was a very it was a fascinating, fascinating experience, very
fascinating experience, and we were there with Kevin Sorbo, who's
also really tall, but it was only rendered average over there.
It was pretty interesting to see Hercules humbled because he's
like a thousand feet tall. Also, he's just a large,
large man. He's very tall, and all like him, and

(01:21:23):
all of his kids are tall, et cetera. So here's
something interesting. One of their kids they were at a
buffet in Amsterdam and they were going to get eggs,
and somebody complained at the buffet that they didn't want
non halal offerings on the buffet, so they had to
shut it down and make it vegetarian. I would literally

(01:21:46):
chop someone's head off for that, Like, oh, you think
your ideology is bad? If I don't get protein in
the morning, I get head chopping hungry. That's what happens.
Like I will immediately, you know, Hassan, chop your head
off because I didn't get my protein. That's exactly what
would happen. I would, I mean, and I am not

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even joking. I actually would be very forthright like that.
Who gets to dictate that stuff? And it like, can
we just be real? The only reason that a lot
of the Islamism stuff that anybody even pays attention to
their threats is because other Islamis have chopped people's heads off.
I mean, how many heads got a roll before people
start I don't know. I'm just saying, what would you

(01:22:29):
do if you were at a buffet and someone's like,
oh no, sir, there was a complaint, this is not
how long if I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Was also head chopping angry like you?

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Yeah, oh man, I get yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
I'd probably do some head chopping.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
My husband basically just has to throw bacon at me
and run away just to save himself. When I get
angry in the morning, then I calm down. It's like,
you know how if you feed Gizmo after midnight, he
turns into a gremlin. Okay, so the opposite is true
with me. In the morning, I wake up a gremlin,
and then after I get protein, I turned into Gizmo.

(01:23:00):
So it's anyway I would I I would not have
tolerated that. I don't think. I don't I don't think
that would have worked well. But yeah, it was a
very interesting experience. It was very It was a very
goth trip because the weather was pretty god.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
You have to bring any exotic food home with you
or I.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Tried to know you. I wanted to bring whale meat.
But you can't. You can't the meat of a whale, right.

Speaker 12 (01:23:27):
It had blubber on it, right, you can reduce that down,
you know. I'm curious. So you weren't able to bring it?

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
No, no, because they don't allow it. There's certain things,
and I get it, you know, agriculture. I mean, we
don't really. You can bring reindier meat apparently, but you
can't bring whale meat. I don't know why is it.
I mean, I'm not going to go up there and
tell the Nords what to do, but you know, I
don't know it is. I guess it's it. I don't
know if the there was whale meat, That's all I know.
And they had it at a troll shop, I guess yeah.

(01:23:58):
But I did have the brown cheese. Trying to look
for some weird fish, but it was very difficult to
find some authentic nor because I liked I don't do
excursions and I don't like tours. I like to I'm
really nuts about this stuff, and so I will research
the area. And we were going into all these very
interesting places. But I felt like a lot of people thought, oh,
we're the only US Nordic people like the weird fish,

(01:24:19):
so we want to make sure that, you know, Americans
or Europeans can come in and eat stuff. So I
feel like there was it was really hard to find
even some kind of odd fish to say nothing of
like the weird fish meals. I wanted something that they
had to go into a pit in the backyard and
dig up and then you know, shake the dirt out
of it before they slapped it on a plate. I mean,
I've seen I've seen some of these cooking shows. I

(01:24:40):
know how it happens, just saying like, what is it
lutfisk and then someone said simmers murmur marine. I don't know,
there's a fish that has like three m's in it.
I don't know, it's like a dish and some geese.
I don't know. This is very there, seems very very fun,
fascinating trip, right so, uh you can see pictures of

(01:25:02):
it up. I took some amazing photos. It almost mean,
I feel like Ansel Adams. When you're in a place
like that, every photo you take is going to be great.
You every photo there. And there was no trash in
the smaller villages that we went into. Everything was so
clean and it just it looked like a Hobbit village.
It looked like the Shire or Rivendell. But I took

(01:25:24):
some pictures up that if you are a subscriber over
at Substack, you can go and see some of those
photos and it includes some of the ones of our
panel as well when we were there for the MRC event.
So coming up, we've uh my friend Ben Shapiro. You know,
he's on a book promotion tour. That's always tough whenever
you have a book out and you got to go
and you're doing all these shows. I've known him for

(01:25:45):
a while, but you're doing you know, you you've kind
of lose track of how many things that you have
to do. We've got a lot to discuss with him.
It's been a while since he's been on but it
he'll be coming up with us. After Headlines and.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
Now all of the news you would probably miss, it's
time for Dana's Quick five.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
You know how sometimes you have like emergency alerts that
go off on your phone. While the Brits have the
same things that happened to them obviously, and they had
one that happened the whole nation yesterday. They are Sunday
they had eighty seven million phones that apparently all gave
them a jump scare. That's a lot. That's like a
big thing, and it was something that it was an
emergency alert that was erroneously sent. How do you like

(01:26:22):
erroneously send those things to eighty seven million? It seems
like a lot. Let's see a Pennsylvania couple saves the
world's oldest drive in. That's nice. Drive ins used to
be a thing. There was one like in the southern
town where my family lived, and my grit. I mean
they it still operates. They still people still go. I

(01:26:42):
mean you can't. I've never thought you could really hear
it well, But you know whatever, it's an old drive thing. Yeah,
it's kind of neat. There's a there's an aesthetic to it.
Let's see a copperhead bit a kid at daycare nine
to one wasn't called an apparent apparently. I don't think
that the family was notified either. I guess they just
found out later. It was a four year old North
Carolina boy. His family says a snake bit him a

(01:27:04):
daycare and right on his finger. His hand was all swollen,
swelled up. He was on a playground. You're a sandbox.
A worker killed the Copperhead after the attack, but the
daycare never like called the hospital or did anything. I mean,
it was the one of the family members apparently that
rushed him to the hospital and emergency services confirmed they
did not receive a call from the daycare. Apparently the

(01:27:27):
daycare first that it was just a splinter, and then
they go, well, maybe it's a broken hand. Even if
it was a broken hand, you still wouldn't call nine
one one with about a kid in your care. That's
seems a little neglect y. Yeah, it's a little neglectful.
I would say. The part of a road was shut

(01:27:49):
down due to a defect in the pavement. That's what
you call a defect. I feel like that Sebastian and
a skullco joke where wife is like, I just it
was just a gray You can get some carnouba wax
and buffet out and it's like a giant dent. It's
like a hole in the road that can swallow up
your Car's that's what the defect is. So we'll just

(01:28:14):
put it like that. They to close the road down
and redo it again, just saying let's see, London is
brought to a standstill because they had their tube strikes
that are going to last all week. Their subway strikes. Essentially,
they said it's starting now and who knows how long
it's going to go, but they're expected to last all week.
So if you're sight seeing in London right now, that's
going to be a bummer for you. Not going to

(01:28:35):
be super fun. Coming up next, my friend Ben Shapiro
from Daily Wire, he's going to be joining us. He's
got a new book out, Lions and Scavengers.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
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Speaker 6 (01:28:55):
No one can plausibly claim that a Christian family are
in Hamas, Okay, so like, what tell me if you
can't claim that they're Namas, will simultaneously claiming that Hamas
is you know, grubugie hotties, their Islamic extremists, which they
also claim constantly, which I don't know if that's true,
by the way, seems more like a political organization, but

(01:29:16):
whatever it is, they're telling us constantly they're al Qaeda,
so it can't also be true. That Christians are a
member of al Qaida. Sorry, yeah, yeah, so then we
know they're not an amas, So why did they get killed?

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
This is such a bizarre interview. I felt as though
I was inebriated, but without any of the benefits of
actually having like a glass of wine or a cocktail
or anything of that nature. It's really amazing to watch
where some people have landed ten years after you first
meet them. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you.
We are at the bottom of the third hour. I
wanted to get his reaction to this, and it's just

(01:29:49):
so happens that he was scheduled to come on today
when this audio came out. My longtime friend Ben Shapiro,
we used to be colleagues at Breitbart under our late
friend Andrew Breitbart. He of course is the founder of
the Daily Wire. I think actually his most perhaps his
best accolade as number one rapper, you know, because he
was a rap artist at some point, and I just,

(01:30:10):
you know, I feel like that we need to make it.
I thought I was going to see him at the VMAs,
you know. When watching that Ben Shapiro, who's a new book. Yeah,
don't think he's expecting that one Lions and Scavengers, the
True Story of America is out now, he joins us
now via video, good to see you, my friend. As always,
congrats on the book. I got to get your reaction

(01:30:32):
to this SoundBite because I thought, well, who thinks that
Hamas might just be a political organization? That's asinine. I mean,
it is an ideological as zealous ideological. It's a terrorist entity, ben.

Speaker 7 (01:30:45):
I mean literally.

Speaker 13 (01:30:46):
The same day that audio was released, Kamas performed a
terrorist attack in Jerusalem that killed six people and also
released a video about how to shoot up a boss.
So yes, they are a terrorist group, as it turns out,
designated as such, not just by Israel, but by the
United States, the UK, the rest of the EU, and
the Muslim Brotherhood of which they are at offshoot has
designated a terrorist group by pretty much everybody in the
Middle least. So yes, I mean, just technically speaking. The

(01:31:07):
real question I think is what the hell is going
on with Tucker. I wish I had an answer.

Speaker 7 (01:31:12):
I do not.

Speaker 13 (01:31:13):
This is the same interview in which he said that
you might want to send condolences to the family of
osam Bin Laden.

Speaker 7 (01:31:17):
It would just be the nice thing to do.

Speaker 13 (01:31:20):
He's releasing a documentary in a couple of days where
I suppose he's on Peers Morgan explaining that he thinks
that the Israelis had prior knowledge of nine to eleven
and then celebrated it happening. So something is going on
that is certainly strange with with Tucker's foreign policy views.
I think some of his domestic policy views are kookie.
This is, as the President put it, his domestic his
foreign policy views are beyond kookie at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
Yeah, I kind of feel like, maybe, I don't know,
it's just weird to watch his reasoning lately because you
and I we've known him for a long time, and
I'm just I'm just shocked that some of the things
that I'm seeing coming from some of the people on
the right, which kind of gets into why in the
world is this finding any kind of audience with anybody
on the right. Where did this come from? I mean,
the idea that there are some people that are arguing,

(01:32:02):
you know, apparently in favor of Hamas for Gaza. I'm
just shocked or that are upset that, you know, the
Kataris were struck, I mean for crying out loud I
mean aiding and abetting Hamas and husblah working with Iran.
I wanted to get your thoughts on this. Where does
this come from? Why is it now that this is
finding and you know what I'm talking about. There's an audience,

(01:32:24):
you know, a small group of people I think on
the right that for whom they are really agreeing with
this type of rhetoric.

Speaker 7 (01:32:30):
So I do think that it's mostly online.

Speaker 13 (01:32:32):
I don't think that you see it a lot sort
of in your everyday life, but it does bleed over
from the online world into the regular world, particular among
young people who spend a lot of time online. I
think there's a grievance culture that has arisen on certain
parts of the right, kind of the horseshoe theory, right,
and the suggestion is they sort of take a grain
of truth and then they warp it into something completely false.
That the grain of truth is that white Christian males

(01:32:53):
who ben put upon by some of the institutions of
the society.

Speaker 7 (01:32:57):
And there's true to that.

Speaker 13 (01:32:57):
That was true under Barack Obama, it was certainly to
under Joe Biden, and that has now been blown up
into the idea that all of the systems are a
rayed against the interests of white Christian males. And then
once you say that, you kind of enter a grievance
minded politics where all the institutions have to be torn down.
Who are the big beneficiaries of the system, the people
who are the wealthiest, the people who are the most educated,
the people who are the most successful. And then you

(01:33:19):
start saying, well, you know, there are a lot of
Jews who are very successful and very well educated, and
internationally Israel's doing really well, and it must be that
there's something the fary is going on. I think that
a lot of this theory seems to be connected. I mean,
Tucker has had on guests in the past several months
who have suggested that the United States took the wrong
side in World War Two, that actually we should have
sided with Hitler in order to fight Stalin, for example,

(01:33:40):
while the Holocaust was going on. He is, you know,
speculated about whether the moon landing was real. He has
speculated about nine to eleven. I think a lot of
it has to do, again with this broader theory that
America is something deeply wrong has happened in America since
World War Two, and really since the end of World
War Two and every aspect of America that we think
of as great things like free markets or things like

(01:34:01):
you know, strong presence in the world, that all of
that actually is a problem and wrong, and we need
to rethink that entire thing. And that means that you
and I, everybody else is suffering from a sort of
weird false consciousness where we've been deceived into believing that
we won World War two, or we were deceived into
believing we defeated the Soviet Union.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
You know, when you're I was thinking when you were
talking about this that in some ways it's kind of
like a reverse critical race theory in some respects, where
you're going after these pillars of our republic to tear
them down for the purpose of what reshaping it. How
I mean, that's kind of what I Maybe it's the
Katari influencer network. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:34:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:34:39):
I always hesitate to say that people are doing it
for the money, because you know, maybe they're just doing
it for ideological reasons. But the bottom line is that
if you spend all day trafficking and conspiracy theories and
that there are actual conspiracies in the world, and you
can tell them because they have evidence, like things that
actually happen, like Russia Gate, for example, like the FBI
going after the President of the United States, like the
manipulation of data during COVID. All that stuff we have

(01:35:00):
evidence for and we know that it happened because there's
evidence of it. But when you get into conspiracy theorizing
about how these kind of shadowy networks, you can never
quite name our responsible for unspecified evils. And the only
way to do something about it is to listen to
me as I guide you through the wayward paths and
thickets of conspiracism. Well, number one, it's enervating. I think

(01:35:22):
it's kind of an enervation op. It's a demoralization op.
And what that really amounts to in the end is
listen to me, because I will debunk all of the
world for you.

Speaker 7 (01:35:30):
Your life's not going to get better in any way.

Speaker 13 (01:35:32):
We won't fix anything, we'll degrade all of the gains
that we've made as terrible, but you will feel as
though you have a sort of secret knowledge. And I
do think there are a lot of people traffick in
that sort of crap this these days.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
Yeah, and well, the engagement pays. We know that. I mean,
there are people who've developed entire personas based on what
you're talking about, like these conspiracy theories and all of
this other stuff. This kind of gets into this. This
article I was looking at, the divide over Israel goes
down to like an age gap. And I mean you
could like say, maybe somewhere the demarcation line might be millennials.

(01:36:03):
I feel like gen access so much smarter than all
of this, but there is this line at some point.
How do we fix this on the right and get
back to a point where everybody used to be on
the same page that terrorists are terrorists and terrorists are
bad the United States. We don't work with them, we
don't reward them, we don't coddle them, we don't make

(01:36:24):
it easy for them. How do we get back to
that and fix this?

Speaker 13 (01:36:27):
I mean, I think the first argument that we need
to make to people who are young and there really
is an age demarcation. It really starts below the age
of thirty people who are very very online. I think
that the best argument you can make is any of
this making your life better? Or is your life markedly
worse because you're listening to all of this trash. You
have not improved your life in any way by listening
to this stuff. You are dumber, you know fewer things.
You are not acting in responsible ways in the world.

(01:36:48):
You're not going out and like pursuing getting married, or
going to church, or making your community better, or getting
a job or advancing in the world. You're sitting around
and complaining that the world is a rayed against you.
And maybe if I just listen to this one extra podcast,
I'll find out the secret. The world is a great
against me. And that's really a terrible feeling, I think
for a lot of young people. And so the question
that I would ask everybody when people are selling this

(01:37:10):
kind of soap to you is how does it make
your life better?

Speaker 7 (01:37:13):
What decisions are you making that are smarter or better?

Speaker 13 (01:37:15):
And now that you're listening to this trash, where do
you feel as though your life got better because you
now question whether the moon landing was real or whether
all Kite actually did nine to eleven or is it
just that you're entertained by it or you feel it's
transgressive in some way? If if you want a stronger country,
you should understand one thing fundamentally. America is awesome. This
place is great, and that doesn't mean there aren't flaws

(01:37:35):
with it that we can fix. We can fix some
of those flaws. But the systems of America, like you know,
free markets and free minds and rule of law and
traditional virtue like these are very very good things. And
if instead we're going to get a bunch of conspiracized
crap that has no relation to reality, then the result
is going to be probably something that looks more like
Bernie Sanders's arm Mamdani than you're willing to admit.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
And that brings us to the next presidential a life
for those joining us, we're talking to Ben Shapiro his
latest book, Lions and Scavengers, which I it's I like
kind of I like the word, and I like the
concept because it's kind of like have and have nots.
But it dives, you know, obviously, way deeper into that.
We'll talk about that in a moment. Who do you
see as the leader of the Republican Party after Trump
is out? Because I you know, I was talking to

(01:38:18):
some folks at an event over the past week and
I was telling them I think the biggest threat to
the future of the Republican Party is if the party
has an inability to move past personality and refocus on
issues and why we all do what we do in
the first place. Can we get Is that something we're
going to be able to get past? Because I I
don't know who can take that place of Trump. I mean,
he's like kind of like a once in a lifetime candidate.

(01:38:40):
Love him or hate him, No one is like him.
Who how do we how do? What does it look like?
If you look in your crystal ball, what do you
see in the next election?

Speaker 13 (01:38:47):
But I think you asked why this was happening right now.
I think the reason is because there's already a battle
going on for what comes next after Trump, and there's
a conspiratorial wing of the Republican Party that says they
actually want to seize away from Trump his own movement.
And so that Trump betrayed himself by attacking Iron for example,
or that Trump has betrayed himself by siding with Israel
against Kamas. You know that that part of the movement
wants to grab control. This is people like Marjorie Taylor,

(01:39:08):
Green Tucker, some of these folks. And then you have
folks who are sort of more libertarian minded, like elon
right who are trying to grab control of the movement
and moved in that direction. Because Trump is such a
huge personality, and because he's so famous and he's so
kind of gigantic, he's able to contain multitudes within him
and then and then sort of build a coalition underneath him.
I don't see anybody on the horizon who's like that,

(01:39:30):
and so I think that we're going to have to
go through a bit of a fight here to determine
what ideas lead the coalition. Yeah, I think that everybody's
sort of tapping JD. Vance on the shoulder as the
heir apparent. And maybe that's true. I mean, just statistically speaking,
the vice president is very frequently the next nominee of
the party. But the idea of that JD can somehow
just pick up the Trump coalition and then carried it
across the finish line. That is almost never true in politics.

(01:39:52):
It was not true for Hillar to Clinton about Barack Obama.
It was really not true about George JH. W. Bush
about Ronald Reagan. Every politician has to have their own coalition,
and there are some uneasy scenes inside. For example, the
Jdvan's coalition between sort of the theold Libertarians and the
Tucker isolationists and kind of big governments Appalachia types, you know.
So it's gonna be hard, I think, for the Republican

(01:40:15):
Party to replace somebody like Trump in the same way
it's been impossible for the Democrats to replace somebody like
Barack Obama, which means, as you say, we're going to
need to go back to some first principles and decide
what are our actual ideas. It can't just be we
don't like the Democrats. It's got to be like, what
are we actually about here?

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Which brings us to your book Lines and Scavengers. I think,
I mean, it's almost self explanatory, you know. I mean,
you do have those two types of thought that kind
of built this Republican You're seeing that fight play out
now regardless of party. Tell me a little bit about this,
because you know, I have not admittedly I've not read
the book yet, but I love the I like the title,

(01:40:51):
I love the concept of it, and I think that
it it. You're looking to explain this in a way
that even mainstream media people can says it because I
think that you know, the Brian Saltzers of the world.
They don't understand. They don't understand any of this. They
don't understand this concept. Why now, why this book?

Speaker 13 (01:41:07):
I mean again, I think that the reason that this
originally arose is right after October seventh, at month and
a half, I was debating at University of Oxford, one
of the great historic institutions of the West, obviously, and
the security team that I travel with they told me
you're not allowed to stay in London.

Speaker 7 (01:41:22):
It's too dangerous.

Speaker 13 (01:41:23):
There's a gigantic pro Commauns protests there, and so we
stayed about an hour outside of London. And then when
we went to University of Oxford it was also extremely
fraud I mean, it's a very close packed room. There
are a lot of people there who really really don't
just dislike Jews, they actually really dislike Western civilization. We're
chancing about how terrible America is and all the rest,
and I walked out thinking to myself, there is something
deeply wrong when the heart of Western civilization has basically

(01:41:44):
been overrun by people who hate the civilization. And when
you see people marching on college campuses carrying a variety
of banners, right, it can be anything from LGBTQ plus
causes to immigration, to global warming, the sort of omni
cause they march under different banners, but it's all the
same group of people. Those people have nothing in common,
Like what what is queers for Palestine are like that

(01:42:05):
doesn't make any sense. I mean in Palestine they throw
queers off buildings, right, I mean that's what they do.
And so what is that about? And the answer is
all these people envy and hate the West, and so
they see the institutions of the West is threatening to
them personally, and they are able to cobble together a
coalition and people who actually really dislike each other in
order to tear that down. And so what I'm juxtaposing
here is the lions people who actually are focused on

(01:42:26):
things like building community, innovating, risk taking, going and building
a business, going and building up your church, defending your
civilization as a member of the military or the police,
from the people who are largely motivated by envy and
a belief that everything is owed to them and they
have to provide nothing in return, and that therefore any
shortcoming in their life is society's fault. And you got
to rip everything down and Zornmmdani is obviously a kind

(01:42:48):
of perfect alpha example of this. Somebody who's been given
literally everything by the United States, came here as a
child immigrant, grew up in a very wealthy family, privilege
in every way it is possible to be privileged, has
never held a real job in his life, has less
of a successful rap career than I do. For God's sake,
somehow is ending up as the mayor of New York
based solely on this idea that he has grievances that

(01:43:11):
things are unaffordable and therefore capitalism is bad, and he's
going to tax the hell out of everybody and release
all the prisoners, and he's going to have the New
York State boycott Israel, like all this kind of crap.
And so the question is, are we civilization that wants
to stand for our fundamental principles or we want to
engage in this sort of envious grievance culture. And one
of the things I do in the books, I do
not juxtapose right and left. I don't think that every

(01:43:31):
lion is on the right, and I don't think every
scavenger is on the left, as we've been talking about.
I think that there are people who I disagree with
about tax rates who are very much creative, entrepreneurial forces
in the world seeking to build things. And there are
people with whom I agree about tax rates who are
very much in the envious mold and seeking to rip
down key pillars of the institutions of the United States

(01:43:52):
in search of some sort of pass that never existed.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
That's very interesting, kind of like the Elon Musks and
the Jeff Bezos of the world's Sometimes you can be
chaos neutral. Yeah, absolutely this book. I love the back
by the way, I love the back quote that you
take from the introduction seen very seeing the Scavengers will
master the world, unless that's a big word, unless the
book is Lions and Scavengers the True story of America

(01:44:16):
and her critics. Ben Shapiro always good to see you,
my friend. Wish you all the best, and we'll talk
against them.

Speaker 7 (01:44:21):
Thanks so much, Nana.

Speaker 5 (01:44:22):
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Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
Every time I hear this track, I think of Reservoir Dogs,
Gosh and Steve Bushmi and Oh my gosh, that's a
great scene. Okay, two things. First off, the Gretit Thoomberg flotilla.
Some moron on the boat shot a flare onto the
boat and then they lied said they got attacked by
a drone. That's number one. Number two, Cracker Barrel said
that they are suspending all of the remodels. If your

(01:44:56):
restaurant hasn't been remodeled, you don't have to worry. It's
not going to be. They're going to bring I better
see every dusty piece of stuff that was on that
wall back put on that wall right now, better see it.
We'll have more on that tomorrow. Today's stupidity case.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Why can we play cut ten? This is zer run mom,
dona listen to the genius here.

Speaker 12 (01:45:13):
If city council legislation do abolish the NYPD gang database
were to pass, would.

Speaker 6 (01:45:18):
You support endsign that I have supported that that proposal.

Speaker 12 (01:45:24):
So they want to get rid of the gang database
in New York. That's one of his goals to make
New York safer.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
We're going to get rid of anything that we have
that could actually help us. Do we enforce the law better? Folks?
That does it for us today? Make sure you find
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