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January 6, 2026 103 mins
Dana returns with her political commentary to the mic and reacts to the successful capture of Venezuelan Dictator Nicolas Maduro. Dana explains how this was NOT an act of war and was in no way illegal. Pitbull has the most red-pilled response to the capturing of Maduro.

Why is the Maduro case being held in New York City with a Clinton-appointed judge? Dana reveals she got a new puppy, Daisy, live on camera. A Somali daycare manager speaks to the media after his “business” was allegedly broken into, and claims student enrollment and employee documentation was “stolen”. Stephen Yates from Heritage joins us to react to the capture of Maduro, the China & Iran implications, & how the Venezuelan drug gangs fatally impacted his family, personally.

President Trump puts the Columbian President on NOTICE. Sen. Rand Paul joins us to react to the Maduro capture including why he simultaneously thinks the removal of Maduro was a good thing while questioning the Constitutionality of the military action including taking over Venezuelan oil.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are going to run the country until such time
as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition.
Then it has to be judicious because that's what we're
all about. We want peace, liberty, and justice for the
great people of Venezuela. And that includes many from Venezuela

(00:22):
that are now living in the United States and want
to go back to their country.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's their homeland.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
We can't take a chance that somebody else takes over
Venezuela that doesn't have the good of the Venezuelan people
in mind and decades of that, We're not going to
let that happen.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
We're there now, and what people.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Don't understand, but they understand as I say this, we're
there now, but we're going to stay until such time
as the proper transition can take place. So we're going
to say until such time as we're going to run it,
essentially until such time as a proper transition can take place.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Here are going.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
I like how he self edited.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
He's like, Yeah, we're gonna We're just gonna run it
until you know, the proper transition. And that's key, I think,
and that's also something that we're going to be watching
for quite We're gonna be watching to see how that unfolds,
because look, we're going to dive into this.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
And I realize there are some of you out there
who are You're like, whoa, what what happened?

Speaker 5 (01:31):
It's very Washington Crosses, you know, the Potomac on Christmas
going after the Hessians.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
First off, welcome back, Happy New Year.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
I hope you all had a blessed New Year, a
wonderful Christmas.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
I know, I really enjoyed the break. It was necessary.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
It was a very necessary break and to recharge and
kind of refocus and reset. So but it is really
good to be back with you guys, because I was
getting particular antsy. I think when Cain starts noticing that
I'm sending things to Slack at like one in the morning,
that it's all right, jeez, it's time.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
It's time to get back.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
I mean, it's we don't It's not like we don't
have anything to talk about, you know what I'm saying.
I mean, there's been every there has been a huge
hemispheric shift that just occurred in the past few days. Now,
that's just as it pertains to Venezuela. We're gonna be
talking about Iran. We're gonna be talking about the Somali
Pirates that sorry, the Minnesota chapter of the Somali Pirates, uh,

(02:32):
because you know that that's their chapter up there. We're
gonna get into all of that, and of course the
man Donni inauguration, but first and foremost the invasion of
Venezuela and the capturing of Maduro. Now, if you are
a subscriber to the newsletter over at Substack, chapter and verse,
you have that already. Uh and uh, you're you have
all of that. You got the rundown. That's why it's

(02:55):
incredibly important to sign up for that newsletter because you
get all of that important stuff. But this, uh, it
was a pretty daring raid, a very daring raid, and
no fatalities on our side, and it culminated with Nicholas
Maduro being paraded in front of the press and sweatpants,

(03:15):
which I that's one of my worst nightmares. Just I
can't even imagine going out in public and sweat I
just I don't know, it's a thing. I just don't
know sweatpants kind of wear in person. So the uh
uh whole thing, the way that it unraveled, and the
fact that it was lightning fast and surgically. It's surgical precision,

(03:39):
no fatalities. The way that it went down, plucking him
out of his fortress. Now full disclosure. He did ask
for it, did he not?

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Came?

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Maduro did ask for it. Back in August, he made
a big while he was boasting. He was running his mouth.
This is what bad guys do, and it never works
out for them. He was boasting about this and saying that, well,
come to Mire Flores and come get me. Listen, this
is what he said in August. He said, coward. This

(04:17):
was the meme that they also came out with. Yes,
the White House did play a little bit of a
biggie there.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
The no lyric censored, which is why.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
We immediately had to get out of it, because the
White House can post it. And but I don't think
Chairman Brendan Carr is going to like that too much.
So the uh he did call, don't call down the
thunder if you don't want the thunder. I'm just saying
now I know that everybody, and I'm gonna get to
everything because everybody has been kind of reveling in the

(04:47):
way that this was carried out. There are some other
implications to consider. And also everything can still go sideways.
I'm not here to run on your parade, but I
am here to bring perspective. I always believe in spiking
the football. I also think that this is one of
the ballsiest moves that we've seen in a long time.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Now.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
I'll say too, going after bin Laden that was a
pretty big deal. I didn't oppose that, and that was
under a Democrat president. I mean I didn't oppose that
to the point where in downtown Saint Louis, where I
lived at the time, I ran up and down the
street playing Team America Blank. Yeah, at like eleven o'clock
at night. I'm sure my neighbors they were all live anyway.
I'm sure they loved it. But there's the way that

(05:27):
it was conducted. And I one of the reasons that
Maduro was able to run his mouth like that is
because nobody there hasn't been a leader that has held
him to account. This has been going on but since
before Maduro, though. This is what people need to realize.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
He was not.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
First of all, he was not the duly elected president.
He was not the legitimate president. He lost the election,
even with all of the fraud and the oppression and
the suppression and everything else. He didn't win an election.
He just refused to hand over power. He's a dictator,
so he was never the elected president. He refused to

(06:04):
hand over control. But all of this, you know, this
operation Absolute resolve what had been going on in Venezuela.
And we're going to dive into the energy portion of
this coming up. It's really heartbreaking. We have a lot
of friends. I don't know why, but we do. We
have a lot, not like we you know, portioned everyone out,

(06:26):
But when we were talking to our friends, I realized
there was a significant number of our our in person,
real world acquaintances who are either from Venezuela or first
generation American from Venezuelan parents, and they are just a
static over this.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
They were they were overjoyed.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Is not even a word that I think properly contains
how they felt. One of our friends is an Olympic
shooter who had who had to flee Venezuela after her shooting.
Coach was telling her, You're not even gonna be able
to compete much longer because they were they were disarming everyone.

(07:04):
I mean, it's just an even even competitive shooters, which
is a nightmare. This is a country that has probably
some of the greatest resources on planet Earth. They sit
Venezuela sits on the world's largest oil reserves, the Orinoco Belt.
It's a heavier, kind of sludgier specialized crude. It's a

(07:28):
little bit harder to extract, but their reserves that they
sit on is greater than all of Opec combined, the gold,
the copper. You can see why everyone wants to be
friends with Venezuela and with this administration. And this is
what I think Republicans and Trump himself need to be
very careful about messaging forward. Remember, you are talking to

(07:52):
multiple generations of people who either served in Iraq, served
in Afghanistan, had parents that served in Iraq or Afghanistan,
or family members, or who grew up with the looming
story every day of Iraq and Afghanistan, mission creep, etc.
Now I'm not comparing the two, but there has always

(08:12):
been a good reason why conservatives and libertarians notice I'm
not saying Republicans, but conservatives and libertarians have always been
very hesitant with anything that even so much as looks
like it's a nation building and for a good reason. Now,
everything that I'm hearing from Potus. That's not what this is.
It is an individual who was hanging onto control that

(08:35):
he did not win and killing people who opposed him.
An individual who's equally murderous. Predecessor nationalized the oil industry
in Venezuela, which I will have you remember includes billions
upon billions upon hundreds of billions of dollars of American
infrastructure because the United States and Venezuela had partnered together

(08:59):
on Innerge. And then when you go, Javez nationalized oil
and gas in Venezuela. They confiscated that there were only
a few companies that actually took a minuscule buyout. I mean,
ultimately they lost billions of dollars. And why I say
it's heartbreaking is because the people of Venezuela, there is
no excuse for any of them to live at the

(09:21):
poverty level or anywhere close. I mean, for crying out loud,
you're a coastal nation, you have beautiful beachfront, You're in
the southern part of the Caribbean. For crying out loud,
I mean in your wrote a song about you essentially
or noc I mean, come on, I mean beautiful, gorgeous country,
rich history, very friendly, lovable people, untold natural resources.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
There is zero reason.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
For anyone in the country to be living even near
the poverty level. But this is what this is what
tyranny brings you. That's a reason why they haven't been
able to actually spanned extraction in the Orinoco Belt. It's
one of the reasons why they haven't been able to
expand extraction as it pertains to golden copper, because of
the politics, because of the negotiations, because of the corruption,

(10:14):
and so when you look at the United States and
it's close proximity to Venezuela. I can't remember who said
it the day that it happened, and I was trying
to remember, but someone had said that, oh, you don't
want to have the nicest house in the bad neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Now that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
I mean, it's not a very long flight from Miami
to Venezuela to Caracas. It's not a very long flight
at all. There's a reason why China wanted to get
a toll hold. There a reason why Russia wanted to
get a toll hold there. We're going to talk more
about that. All of this, though, does make Joe Biden
slam on Maduro back in twenty twenty, just look all
the more ridiculous. Remember this, I mean Biden was saying

(10:56):
if Biden did do a single thing, he didn't do
a single thing. I mean, they went from opposing Maduro
and like Raskin, Jamie Raskin said, his assault on the
electoral process and free speech, they try to call him
right wing.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Did you know that.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Democrats have been trying to brand this for forever? Joe
Biden saying Trump talks tough on Venezuela but admires thugs
and dictators like Nicholas Maduro. As president, I will stand
with the Venezuelan people for democracy. Joe Biden stood with
the Venezuelan people just about as well as he stood
with the Iranian people during the Green Revolution, just about,

(11:34):
which meant not at all. Really, Remember this is flashback
Chuck Schumer cut sixteen going after Trump.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Listen to this.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
He brags about all these things he wants to do
or is doing, but his actions belie his words. Maybe
the best metaphor was his claim to bring democracy to Venezuela.
There was a big policy there.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It flopped.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
If the policy was working, Juan Guido wouldn't be in
the balcony here, he'd be in Venezuela. He'd be sitting
in the president's palace or at least waging a fight
to win. He's here, and the president brags about his
Venezuela policy. Give us a break. He hasn't brought an

(12:24):
end to the Maduro regime. The Meduro regime is more
powerful today and more intrenched today than it was when
the president began.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
And now it's not as I said.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
I think it's that Potus needs to be very careful
as well as other Republicans in terms of how they
message on this. This isn't about a This isn't actually
about a regime change because the regime that's in place
was not one that was duly elected by the people.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Remember, he didn't win.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
He held control of power, he wouldn't relinquish it, So
it's not really a regime change. You could say that
it is helping a neighbor in the restoration of their liberty,
which without sounding too much like helldivers you know, well,
democracy restored without sounding too much like hell divers, it
very much is helping your neighbors. So that because it

(13:07):
benefits the United States to have healthy neighbors. Now, who's
gonna run Venezuela. We don't want another stooge. That's the
other issue. When you took out Java, when Chavas passed away,
you have Maduro. You're gonna have a ton of little
maduas in Chavas is waiting to take their spot. You
don't want to essentially restore something, you know, status quo
or worse. China is also big mad Now. All of

(13:29):
this happened while a Chinese delegation CCP delegation was in Venezuela. Remember,
Venezuela is part of the Belton Roade initiative with China.
They were there in the country. We're gonna tell you
what China had to say, Democrat reactions and why is
this case being decided in the Southern District of New York,
which is where Maduro is being held. As we move, folks,

(13:51):
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Speaker 7 (15:18):
And now all of the news you would probably miss,
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Speaker 4 (15:23):
So our House majority now just shrank by one.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
House Geop Rep. Doug Lomalfa passed away age sixty five.
Representative Lomalfa was out of California. It was announced just
a little earlier today that he passed away age sixty five.
He represented the first Congressional District, part of North California,
which chair of the Congressional Western Caucus. So now that
brings the majority down to two eighteen to two thirteen.

(15:48):
Ooh man, it's getting closer and closer. But also thoughts
in prison with his family, that's a sad thing. A
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and is it training? Yeah, there you go. I mean,
I know, no one's surprised that I've got a lot
of headlines here. Corporation for Public Broadcasting voted itself out
of existence.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
It's done.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
The Corporation for Public Broadcasting is now finidoed. Slowing auto
sales are stoking concerns over near record car prices. Cars
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on now high prices are going to put those sales
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Speaker 4 (16:30):
Also, a rare move to override Trump's veto.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
The House is going to vote Thursday to override a
veto of two GOP backed bills. One of them had
to do with water infrastructure in Colorado. That was in
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and you also that's they haven't scheduled or made all
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(16:53):
but apparently it's expected for that. It's a very rare,
very rare rebuke of a veto. Bus fairs in New
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Speaker 5 (18:34):
Imagine you're part of the Communist Chinese delegation that's there
in Venezuela. You know, you came in to meet with
a Belt and Road Initiative member country, and you're chilling
with Maduro, who's hanging out in his palace. By the way,
them jams that he was rocking them, some fancy jams.
By the way, you're the CCP. You're there in Venezuela,

(19:01):
you know, chilling, you know, and doing whatever comedies do together,
and then you know, boom, the thunder comes down from
the sky and Maduro and his wife were plucked right
out that fortress. I mean, I'm not going to get
into the details of the operation. I think everybody knows,
you know. I mean they had a blackout, they had
I mean, there were a lot of there was a
lot of planning ahead of it. But I gotta say

(19:23):
they said that it was delayed because of the weather.
Do you remember hearing them talk about that cane it
was delayed because of the weather.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
I think that they're just doing that to make it
seem I think that's something that they're saying to make
it seem like they were being judiciously cautious, when in fact,
I think I personally think it was time precisely when
the CCP was going to be there. What a ballbuster, man,
what a Jimmy Rustler? Holy cow? I mean, just to

(19:53):
do that while they're there. Were they even awakened? I
don't even know.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
I and no one knew. There were no leaks.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
So let me say something else, and we're gonna get
into this whole argument. We got Senator Rampaul is gonna
be joining us later. I have yet to be persuaded
that this was illegal. Now I'm open to being persuaded.
I'm not a zealot. You guys know this. I'm not
a partisan. I'm completely open to being persuaded. However, this
was not a military This was not a a an

(20:23):
active war. The act of war is what Maduro did
to his people. The active war is the asymmetrical warfare
that under majuro An Chavas before him, Venezuela engaged in
by powdering the United States with cocaine and fentanyl. This
was asymmetrical warfare. So if we're gonna say, if we're
gonna be big kids and we're gonna pull up a
chair to the table and actually talk real, let's that's

(20:45):
that's the act of war, if you want to really
use those words, that's the act of war. The act
of war is allowing a geopolitical foe to get a
toe hold in the act of war was confiscating American
property and infrastructure to the tune of hundreds of billions
of dollars. So us me with this absolute feces of
acthen warn. I'm tired of hearing these people say this.
Where the hell were you scensters when all this stuff

(21:08):
was kicking off. Where the hell were these scenesters screaming
learn warre for an oil when China was going in
cutting deals using our infrastructure. Where the hell were these
ballless eunuchs out there screaming about learn warn for oil
when you had the nationalization of actual American hardware, of
actual American property, of actual American infrastructure, because the United

(21:28):
States prior to Chavez had partnered with Venezuela to do this.
Where were the cries of active war then, or all
the fentanyl again or working with the Sinaloa cartel or
Trenda Uragua. Where were all of the cries of acthon
war or como? Where was all of that then? So
anyone who did not voice an objection about that can
sit down an STFU. Done got a problem with it,

(21:54):
Get act your little iPhone and write an email to
kiss mya double snakes dot com because I'm not interested
and hearing it. This is our hemisphere. So everyone learned
about the Monroe doctrine. You guys probably knew it, but
you guys know who I'm talking about, right as short
bus Folks learned about the Monroe doctrine today or the
past couple of days. Trump's now calling it the Donro doctrine.

(22:16):
Let me make it really clear. Of course, oil is
a reason for conflict. You're a moron if you don't
think so. I'm not trying to sound like you know,
old man Boomer radio here, but I'm so done with
this naivete. Where the hell do these people come from?
Were they born in hospitals made of peppermint and candy cane?

(22:36):
We walk on gun drop roads, Like, where the hell
do you people live? Where you have such a pie
eyed view of this world? This world is full of terrors.
Okay to quote Game of Thrones. So yeah, of course
oil is a part of it. Oil is the lifeblood
of everything. Now I realize that under the previous administration

(22:57):
there and Obama, they were trying to kneecap us and
make us perpetually dependent upon communists China for their monopoly
of rare earths. When they wanted to transition us stupidly
to all electric everything, Well, who has the monopoly on it?
Because we get tied up in red tape and we
don't have like a streamline extraction process the way oil

(23:19):
and gas have been able to develop China. Right, they
don't have China doesn't have OSHA, they don't have environmental protections.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
They don't care.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
But see, we always made fun of democrats in the
Greenees because they think that, well, the pollution stays over there,
there's an invisible wall that doesn't come over. They don't
get it. So this idea that it's not worth having
a reaction over is dumb. It's incredibly dumb because oil
and gas are still keen so and it's plentiful, and

(23:49):
it's a renewable resource. For people who don't understand geology,
it is cry harder. It is I'm sorry you failed
in school or you went to a bad school that
they didn't teach you better than that. But this is
not the time not to take it out on people
who are observing just minor fact. So this idea that oh, well,
this is just about seizing oil, well, no, this is

(24:09):
about you could be partly reclaiming our infrastructure from Venezuela.
But also, going back to what I said in the
first segment, we don't want to be the nicest house
in the hemisphere. It is in our best interest for
all of our neighbors to be healthy. And when you
have terror supporting dictators who have seized billions of dollars

(24:32):
of our assets and are working with the two of
our biggest geopolitical fotess to destabilize the United States, that's
a problem. So back to the Monroe doctrine, Yes, it's
our hemisphere. You're damn right, it's our hemisphere. I need
some of these people to grow a set and wake up.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
This is the world in which you live.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
You know why it's our hemisphere because we're the biggest
badass in the hemisphere. Do you know why it's our
hemisphere because we are the rich biggest badass in the hemisphere.
That is what being the richest, biggest badass gets you.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Welcome to Earth. This is how it works.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Utopia for those who failed Latin literally translates to nowhere.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
You're not.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
There's no utopia. This is the world in which we
live in.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
So yes, it is our hemisphere, and hell yes, we
have the right to determine. Hey, our neighbor here, who's
being run by a despot, who's been taken over by
a tyrant, who also took over billions of dollars of
our energy and our infrastructure, who's carrying out asymmetrical warfare
against us to destabilize us, who's working with China, who

(25:45):
also has a not really secretive it was kind of
already noticed a drone trade deal with Iran where they're
assembling them and working with Iran on drone warfare. Yeah,
that's a big problem. It's a national security concern. You're
damn right, it is. You are damn right. It is
so this idea that we live in this kitten sunshine

(26:07):
world where oh it's so mean, WHOA just them done
with it? This is it is a geopolitical game changer
in a number of reasons. So China is the biggest
importer of Venezuela's crude. Now I mentioned earlier there Orinoco Belt.
Venezuela's crue, they have a specially it's like a heavier crud,

(26:28):
so it requires a more specialized extraction process. Their refinement
is a little bit different, it's a little bit more difficult.
But bottom line is that China was the biggest importer
of their crude.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
China needs that crude.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
If you guys don't think, I feel like a lot
of people also don't realize how important oil is an energy,
especially looking back at World War two. World War two,
Japan didn't Japan got mad at the United States and
carried out Harbor because we were already we started sanctioning
Japan because of what they were doing extracting and going

(27:04):
out and claiming resources and getting energy, oil, et cetera.
Doing all of this stuff from China. So when we
started putting sanctions and penalties upon them, crushing them, they
got desperate and reacted. They had their resources to react.
China doesn't. We're going to talk to Steven Yates about that.
But China is the is the biggest importer of that crude.

(27:25):
They need it to continue their expansionism, they need it
to fuel their imperialistic tendencies. So what this strike did,
or what this plucking of Majuro did, is you went
after the trifecta of China, Iran, and Russia. Right, Russia
is more of a sideline player at this point. They are,
let's be real, uh, but with Iran and the drone

(27:47):
trade that they had, and then of course with China.
Now is this has changed. It changed it up a lot,
because China can't make a move in the Pacific without
having that. China also desperately they I think it was
twenty eighteen that Venezuela's signed on to be Belton Road.
They signed this agreement to start the process of becoming
a Belton Road participant. Venezuela really they were really working

(28:11):
with China. China really wanted a toe hold there. They
wanted that proximity, that close proximity to the United States,
and Russia would love nothing more than to have access
to that. Iran would love nothing more than to have
access to that.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
But this is the crude that is used.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
It's for all of their building, all of their construction,
their ship making. You know how we're talking about all
of this stuff, making their fleet out in the Pacific. Okay, well,
you have to have that very unique type of sulfuric,
sludgy crude that is found in that Orinoco belt in Venezuela.
And they were the biggest importers of that. So now

(28:51):
what I made mention that they sit on the biggest
reserves that's going to affect oil prices. The United States
is not talking about running this in perpetuity. They're talking
about getting back there what was stolen from them by
the dictators of Venezuela, recouping that. In fact, the Trump
administration has already been telling oil companies, if you want
to recoup, you need to get down there and start

(29:12):
helping that infrastructure. The United States so far, and again
I'm open if Trump comes out and says something different,
I'll criticize it. But so far, they're not looking to
run Venezuela. We don't need to have a dependent welfare state.
And that's not what they're looking at doing. They want
a healthy neighbor. I want a healthy neighbor. I don't
want to run a country. I just want to get
back my stuff, and I want a healthy neighbor. And

(29:34):
I want them to be prosperous. I want them to
be happy. I wanted to be where I got another
place I can go and fish and vacation and all.
It'd be great, It'd be amazing. So, yes, all of
this is important. It's not just about drugs. I don't
understand the gun charges. That's another thing that I thought
was real weird. But whatever, all of that aside, this

(29:57):
is a major, major national security issue. And in one
move there were three hits, major hits, and it reshaped
that hemisphere. I have a piece that I'm going to
be coming out with that talks about if you're interested
in the history of the seizure of these the American

(30:21):
infrastructure for oil and gas, billions of dollars seizure of
assets there were. They tried to take them to court.
They went to contractual arbitration, you know, the international courts.
I mean some of them had to settle for a pentance.
Some of them didn't get anything back ever. I mean,
even though there was a tribunal that determined Venezuela breached
there stah blah blah blah. You guys get it. Obviously,

(30:44):
not everybody got everything back. Some didn't get anything back,
and the Trump administration back. Actually, it was even a
couple of months ago. Trump had first talked about Venezuela
repain there seized US oil assets. Was back when they
were really this goes as far back as two thousand
and seven, and he threatened the blockade to enforce compliance,

(31:09):
and he specifically like Exon Mobile and others. He specifically
was referencing all of that multiple times prior. So it
is it's a big deal. And in fact, now this
Reuter's piece, US is pushing let me share this with you,
the US is pushing on investors to invest big in

(31:32):
Venezuela if they want to recover their debts. Now, this
came out on the fourth Oil executives were told by
the White House and State Department that they would have
to return to Venezuela quickly and invest significant capital in
the country to revive the damaged oil industry if they
want a compensation for assets that were seized by Venezuela
two decades ago, because they seized everything from international oil companies.

(31:52):
They gave everything to the state run company. So this
is something you're looking at Conicco, Phillips, You're looking at
a lot of stuff. I mean, they've had Kanicco has
had billions and billions and billions and billions that they
have been trying to recover from the Chavez nationalization, ex
on mobile others. So I wanted to put that that

(32:12):
is a significant thing that not enough people are talking about.
So all of the people who were like, no war
for oil, shut the hell up. Where were you when
this happened? Where were you when our assets were seized?
That and it hurt us. It hurt our ability to
produce as much as quickly. It hurt not just us economically,

(32:32):
but it became a national security issue. Now coming up,
one of the things we're going to talk about is
the reaction of the woke Reich and the zoomer Waffen
because there were some people out there. In fact, there
were a ton of influencers who all tweeted the exact
same thing. Everybody from who is it that malehor Dan
Blaseerian or whatever his name is, the walking STD him

(32:55):
and a bunch of other people were tweeting it's true
who were tweeting the exact same thing. That's kind of
interra We're going to dive into all of that. We
have some more we have. We're going to also discuss
the legality and guys, have you heard about the amazing
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Speaker 4 (36:09):
But yeah, this has been.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
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Speaker 4 (36:26):
Also, why was this? Why is Majuro in New York?

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Why are we in the southern district of New York
with US and not I don't know, say, in Florida. Man,
can you imagine this being in Miami?

Speaker 9 (36:38):
Woo?

Speaker 5 (36:41):
It almost gave me chills just thinking about that. Dude,
I wouldn't, but man, I just I would. I'd go
down there just a watch. So we'll discuss that. Also,
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Welcome to the second hour of the program. It's our
first showback in the new year, and I hope you
all had a really fantastic new year. We got so
much stuff to get into, so I'm just going to
go right into it. We got to talk about We're.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Gonna get into the Leering Center.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
H And although the question as to why Nicholas Maduro
is in New York and not say I don't know Florida,
because I think Cain, I'm pretty sure I can speak
for everyone, including some of some of our dear friends
who have family in Miami and they're Venezuelan. They were

(39:26):
heartbroken that it wasn't in Florida because I think that
they there would have been maybe some shenanigans. I think
they're justified personally. I didn't see nothing, I didn't hear
nothing we're talking about. I just see skies and you know,
palm trees. That's all I see down there, Kane. But
the reason why Majuro is in the Southern District of

(39:48):
New York, and a lot of people have been talking about,
I know, the judge is like a ninety three year old.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
What was he like? A Clinton appointee? Hold up, let
me pull this up.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
The judge is uh, he is, oh, yeah, ninety two.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Sorry, I overestimated him by a year. Alvin K.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Hellerstein, he's a Clinton appointee from nineteen ninety eight. He's
one thousand years old. He's been as He's also the
guy who refused to move Trump's hush money case from
state to federal court. You know, that stupid Alvin Bragg case.
He blocked the Trump administration back in May their use
of the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight to
also to port Venezuelan gang members who were trend to

(40:23):
Aragua gang members within the SD and Y. So just
that now, there's a couple of ways to look at
this Southern District of New York. First off, that's where
all of these charges were first implemented. That's where I
think this kind of like started all the way back
in twenty twenty. So the criminal cases against him were

(40:51):
already filed and they were developed in the Southern District
of New York.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
And that is like.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
The premier jurisdiction in the United States for transnational crimes, right,
that's where a lot of that's where most of the
transnational crime stuff, narcotics, trafficking, terrorism, financing, money laundering, particularly
if foreign actors are involved, and even more particularly when

(41:18):
US financial systems are implicated or effective. And so that
is why they were saying that, you know, he and
these other officials were using US dollar denominated transactions and
correspondent banks in New York.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
So that's a big thing.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
That was one of the channels that they used, correspondent
banks that were located actually in New York. So that
is what's giving the Southern District of New York clear
jurisdiction in this case. So once the once you have
an indictment, and once that indictment is in existence in
a particular federal district, that then means that the defendant

(41:59):
in the case in question is brought to that particular
federal district where they were arraigned, they have their hearings,
the trial happens there, et cetera. That is not a
political thing that was done. It's not a political choice.
It is how that's that's the process. So to explain
why it was the Southern District of New York. That

(42:20):
is the reason why. So it makes sense, you know,
I get that.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Now.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
The other thing, here's a different way to look at it.
You could look at it as, oh, well, here you
have a judge in the case. You're not going to
be able to say that this is a politically a
political prosecution. I mean, this is a judge who clearly
did not like Trump and went along with this stupid
hushmunny thing and went along and try was trying to

(42:45):
even stop you know, gang members of trend To Ragua
firm being sent back to Venezuela. So there is zero
way anybody can say that this is a politically you know,
motivated anything. So I do think that there is a
silver lining in the the situation of how the case,
where the case is being prosecuted that district. If that

(43:08):
helps give you perspective on that this is just simple
standard operating procedure as it relates to federal charges, federal courts,
federal indictment. So and because again those banks, those correspondent
banks that they that that Maduro and his cronies were using,
were in New York. That gives them clear jurisdiction. That
coupled with the fact that the big the initial uh

(43:31):
indictments and criminal cases were filed and made and built
in that district, that also gives them particular jurisdiction in
this case. So that makes sense. That makes sense when
you when you look at it like that. The laying center, though,
we're gonna have to get into those laring centers. Can
I pause though for a quick minute, because you guys know,

(43:53):
this is a we normally don't you know, get really
uh talk about personal stuff. You guys know, as we
get the layings stuff ready, we we got a new
family member. We got a new family member and her
name is Daisy Doo.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
We can get her.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Oh, baby girl, it's my baby girl.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Oh she's terrified. She doesn't she hasn't set This is
our sweet baby Daisy. Look at her.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
It's a sweet Daisy. What do you think, baby girl?
She's like, I don't like this.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
We officially have a studio, Doug.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Maybe not yet. I'm trying to let her look at
the television so people can.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
See what is that. This is Daisy.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
Daisy is going She's going on ten weeks old. She's
currently nine.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
And a half weeks.

Speaker 7 (44:35):
What's her take on Venezuela.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
She's our new sweet puppy. She's the best baby girl.
She's a tomboy, and she's all drama. She we call
her thunderflu. She's just all drama, this baby girl. Baby
girl's all dramas.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Okay, look what's a she's clinging to me. You're all right,
baby girl.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
She's so cute commercial.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
She's such a baby. She's such a good baby girl.
I gotta use my daisy voice. She's a good baby.
But she Wick is so protective of her.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
He loves her. They get along so well, they get
along so good. She's just not wanting to look she's
she just doesn't care, she Daisy, look at everybody.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Oh my goodness, he's such a good girl. Are you
such a good girl? You are only goodness? Can we
just do puppies for the rest of the show.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
Oh my goodness, this is Daisy that we love her.
She's so precious. We just love her to bits, and
she's such the best baby. But I wanted to introduce
everybody to her because you guys know, you guys knew
were other dogs and you kind of met Wick. Wick's
a little bit of a wild one and he's huge,
so he can't really he can't really come back here.
He's all bull in a china shop. But sweet baby Daisy,

(45:44):
she's a very good girl.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
You good girl. Yeah, she's a very good girl. But
that's miss Daisy. Daisy Do gone her. Yeah, she's a
good girl. She's right now. She doesn't shed a whole
heck of a lot, do you.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
No?

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Okay, I know we got to do professional lady radio.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
But I love you.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
I love you, Sweet Daisy.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
That's miss Daisy, little Miss Daisy Do. So we got her, uh,
we kind of had her. We needed to get a
female Golden retriever because Wick is crazy. He's half Belgian Malaman,
half Rhodesian ridgeback. He's a rescue pup, so he's a
little bit and so far she has already been amazing
at chilling him out. And he's he's unk, you know,

(46:26):
he protects her, He kind of like helps keep her
in line, and she kind of teaches him to be
a little bit less nervous and a little more fearless.
So it's been it's been great for both of them.
So that's Miss dai z We're not going to send
her to a leering center. Good the I think I'm
going to start. You know what, We're clearly in the
wrong business. I need to start a learing center where

(46:48):
it's like Zoolander right, for kids who can read so
to read so good, learn how to read. I that
was the first thing I thought of. And when I
looked at this and I'm like, wait, where's the end.
It's the Derek Zielander Center for kids who can't read

(47:09):
good and want to learn how to do other stuff
good too, the Larying Center. So while all of this
was happening, all of this fraud was coming to play.
Isn't it just crazy that they got robbed only of
all of anything that could ever indict them or be
used to prove their guilt. Cane, Let's play this clip

(47:31):
because one of the Larying center managers spoke to the media.
Can you believe that somebody legit just stole all of
the enrollment and employee document documentation?

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Only so crazy? Watch this? This is wild.

Speaker 10 (47:47):
Unfortunately, we saw that there was important documentation enrollment of
the children and also employee documentation that was gone. There
were also check books are ripped from our check papers
that were from our book. This is devastating news and

(48:07):
we don't know why this is targeting our Somali community.
As one video made by a specific individual made this
all happen. We've been receiving hateful messages through our voice,
most threatening us in the past couple of days, including
one that happened yesterday morning when they breaking after the breaking,

(48:32):
this is frightening and exhausting because this is happening to
us some all the communities, as some all the Americans.
We are supposed to stand with each other and help
each other through everything.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
That that's why we helped each other to all this
tax para money. So they get busted for tons of
fraud and he's like, but we're Somalians and you're mean,
that's irrelevant. You're a thug and you stole from people
and you actually didn't run any kind of educational facility
at all. So this guy, he's one of the daycare managers,

(49:03):
isn't there? I have so much on this. There was
a video that came out showing these guys like running
out of a building their faces covered and leaving because
they saw that the reporters were approaching them. So they
said that, oh, his business got broken into allegedly, and
allegedly all the student enrollment allegedly was allegedly stolen Kane
and all the employee doc anything that would identify anything
about anybody.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
There was just taken. That's, you know, typically how robberies were.

Speaker 7 (49:28):
I mean, all the things they could have used as
proof of them being a legitimate business, yes, stolen.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
So insane.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
That's like walking into a Kincaid's Burgers and you know,
stealing every like taking their little signs off the wall
that shows their business license and their health inspection and
just leaving and not touching anything else. That's just exactly
how crime works, right, That's the Learing Center, live left Lear,
I mean the Leering Center. Nobody believes this guy. I

(49:59):
feel like I'm watching an and I'll skit. Nobody believes
this guy at all whatsoever? Millions billions, billions of dollars,
billions of dollars and he's saying that, well, just can
you believe it?

Speaker 4 (50:12):
I mean, these people, I don't.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Even think his glasses are real, how much you want
about those are just like glasses that he got on Amazon.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
I don't even think his glasses are real. I didn't
believe that.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
And now all of the news you would probably miss.
It's time for Dana's Quick five.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
So apparently two women at Red Rocks got into a
giant fight over a selfie spot.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
It was at Red Rock Canyon.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
It turned ugly because a little argument over selfies and
who was in the selfie spot first escalated and then
there was an Italian tourist and a Nevada woman and
they got into a huge fight, and apparently a park
ranger had to show up, and one was screaming assault
at the other woman, and it was so completely out
of control.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Yeah, how long does it take to take a selfie? Dude?
I don't even know.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
I don't get what some of these people do. Stop
with your selfies. People falling into the Grand Canyon doing
this stuff before.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
I don't know. Maybe we should encourage it more, but
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
An Arizona Supreme Court was evacuated after a package tested
positive for explosives.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
This is crazy.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
They also evacuated a nearby Department of Education building.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
This was in downtown Phoenix.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Authorities investigated the package it tested positive for explosives yesterday.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
It began when they found the package.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
With no return label in the mail room, and a
retired f ATF agent in charge said that, you know,
it's standard operating procedure to know when you get a
suspicious package to test it, and then everybody freak when
it came back like, oh yeah, there actually is something
to it. So it did apparently have legitimate chemical traces
on it. It wasn't like a false positive. So they're investigating.

(51:44):
That's kind of crazy. They're investigating that. How did you
even get in the mailroom? That's the other I mean,
I'm sure they'll find that out. But let's see, Ooh,
a man killed himself at Walt Disney World. According to
the sheriff, it was eight fifty five pm. It was
found the day after New Year's and it was at
the Walt Disney, a Walt Disney World property, and they're

(52:08):
apparently it was right around the Disney Springs near some warehouses.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
And it's just sad they're still investigating.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
What is it, like the third time in the past,
like six or seven months, if somebody's done that at
a Disney World. But it's like that Japanese forest. Everybody
just goes there and off themselves.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
It's crazy. Let's see.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
Ooh. The first country in the world ended its postal
service after four hundred and one years following a ninety
percent decline in letters, and that of course is Denmark.
They had all fifteen hundred mailboxes across the country, I said,
apparently they sold them and there that's it.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
The last letter.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Ever delivered was handed over by a veteran post postal worker.
That was just a couple of days ago when their dispatch.
They ended their four central long service because apparently nobody,
nobody sends that everything is digital, everything's electronic.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
That's kind of the way it is. That's the way
it's going here.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
But instead we just dump money and do it over
and over and over again, which is doesn't make any sense,
but okay, that's what that's just what we do. We'll
just continue funding it. But that's I figured. I think
that'll happen like within the next twenty years here. And
as we said earlier, Corporation for Public Broadcasting is officially dissolved.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
It is no more.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
That's they were the ones who funded PBS and NPR
and all of that stuff, and so now they're officially dissolved.
Coming up, we're gonna be talking with our friend Steven
Yates because what we're seeing play out this is a huge,
huge deal in this hemisphere and a major national security move,
and China is livid.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
We're going to discuss coming up. Stick with us.

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Speaker 5 (54:01):
I mean, we had just seen Chinese officials arrive in
Venezuela for talks with Nicholas Majuro and then boom, right
after all of a sudden, Maduro and his wife aren't
there anymore. What are these Chinese officials there to do?
Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. You

(54:22):
can listen Coast to coast. I'm forget to stream us
YouTube channel through forty seven direct TV. Were talking a
little bit about the association between China and Venezuela, and
I maintain, and we're going to talk to our good
friend Stevin Yates about this in a second. I maintain
that they did not have a weather delay. I think
that they purposefully timed it for these Chinese officials to

(54:45):
be there and then they swooped in and it was
just a giant middle finger in the face of Jijiiping.
And I really, guys, I gotta tell you, I really
felt warm fuzzies in my heart.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
I really did.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
I felt warm fuzzies in a joy in my heart.
I could have floated up to the ceiling like a balloon,
so was the joy joining us now are very good friend,
Stephn Yates, his first time with us in this new year,
Senior Research Fellow at the Heritage Institute.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
At Steve Yates on X.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
So, my good friend, I hope you had a blessed
Christmas and a wonderful New Year. Although I couldn't imagine
a better gift to you than imagining the faces of
these Communist Chinese officials as they realized the guy that
they were there to negotiate with is now in New York.

Speaker 9 (55:30):
Yeah. Well, nothing says, you know, thank you more than hey,
I'm here, I'm your enduring partner.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Whoop, where'd you go?

Speaker 9 (55:38):
But you know, the Chinese Communist Party aren't really respectors
of persons. I'm sure they're much more concerned about where's
that oil that we wanted to be able to depend
upon so that we are not dependent on the straits
near those Malacca Straits near Singapore as a choke point
in a time of crisis. So they've been looking at

(55:59):
divert to fy their supply. They have used the financial
instruments that are otherwise known as money laundering in Venezuela
to help avoid sanctions, help others avoid sanctions. So there's
a lot of little things that are tied up in
this briar patch. And you know, I don't know whether
it was accidental on purpose, but just take the outcome.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (56:21):
They were right there with the front row seat, and
so they got to see that. You know, you screw
around with America long enough, you kill some of our people,
you steal some of our resources, you play with the
bad guys, and sooner or later you just might have
that sweet smell of New York air in a courtroom.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
And their statement that they released and said, they quote
strongly condemned the US is blatant use of force against
a sovereign state and action against its president. That's their
foreign ministry for those unaware, that's what the spokesperson said
late Saturday. Such hajemonic acts of the US seriously violate
international law in Venezuela's sovereignty. I'm not even to read

(57:00):
the rest of it, because Steve, I mean, violating their
sovereignty is kind of hard to do. When the dictator
who lost an election and refuses to relinquish power, I
would imagine that that's a pretty big violation of sovereignty.

Speaker 9 (57:11):
Yeah, well, I mean the Tibetans, the Wigers, the Mongols,
the Manchus, some of the Hong Kongers, the residents of Macau,
all of them might be wondering where all this virtue
was at the time that they wanted to appeal to it.
And the so called international community, of course, is where
it always is, chatting with itself at a very important

(57:33):
meeting and doing jack squat to help anything meaningful on
the ground. So, you know, the Chinese don't really care
about international law. They're not really interested in precedent or
anyone else's opinion. They're going to do what they want
to do unless they are forced to do otherwise. And
that's the way of East Asia right now. As they
look at Chinese expansionism, that isn't exactly bowing to Japanese

(57:56):
sovereignty or a Philippine sovereignty, and.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
So I don't know.

Speaker 9 (58:00):
I don't know whether that statement makes me want to
bend over in half and choke on the irony or
just fall on the floor laughing about how ridiculous it is.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
Well, aren't they trying to you know, they're they're talking
about the you know, the acts of the US and
their expansion is and that's what they're trying to do
though in the Pacific. So we're talking earlier about the
oil and energy specifically in China. Is the number one
importer of Venezuela's particular type of heavy crew coming up
there from the Orinoco belt there, they're the big importer.
I know that they get oil elsewhere. But what now

(58:34):
that the US is involved and reclaiming the infrastructure that
Chaves stole and that Maduro continued with, you know, his thievery, which,
by the way, the Chinese were exploiting stolen American infrastructure
in order to expand in the Pacific and expand in Venezuela.
How much does this sideline them? And I think that
that's what everybody's kind of wondering. Does this seriously thwart

(58:58):
any imperialistic plans that they had, Like maybe if they
were thinking about going after Taiwan this year, how much
does this set them back?

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Well, it should set them back again.

Speaker 9 (59:08):
We can't assume that they have any rationality about these things,
or whether an angry letter from somebody is going to
change their mind. But if they look rationally at this,
there were a lot of things at play. Venezuela is
closer to the United States than people realize. It's only
four hundred miles from Puerto Rico, which is a territory
of the United States. It's only the distance of say,

(59:29):
Denver to d C. To go from Caracas to Miami.
And so whether they are pinning down resources that we
might want or need in a time of crisis, or
whether they're looking to avail themselves of it, it certainly
factors into that. But a lot of their weapons systems
and technology, including some radars that were supposed to pick
up stealth activity, obviously had a little malfunctions that Chinese

(59:54):
quality control they're famous for, might give some of the
Chinese recent empire pause about what did I buy and
is it worth the package it came in? And so
I mean the oil in Venezuela mattered enough to China
that they were contemplating digging a second canal across the
isthmus of Central America so that they wouldn't be just

(01:00:16):
dependent on Panama to get that crude to them in
a time of crisis.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Wow, that's significant.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
And of course our friend Stevihs joins us at steviates
on X. Yeah, that radar detection system didn't work. I
mean not at all, Like it didn't fail a little bit,
It just literally didn't work at all.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Well, I mean, so Iran had a little fun with that.

Speaker 9 (01:00:38):
And so these people that thought that bricks is a thing,
and it is sort of a jaw boning annoyance thing.
But if they thought that this is who's going to
stand up for you, Basically there's a perfect record of
if something happens to you, the others do the old
Matador move.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
And say ola and you're on your own. And so
Russia and China.

Speaker 9 (01:01:01):
They show support for the inauguration of the interim leader
after Maduro took his involuntary trip, but they're not really
in position to do a whole heck of a lot.
So the ability to ForwArt the international financial system imposing discipline,
the Golden or MADA that's there that will stop a
ghost fleet from being able to get that oil anywhere.

(01:01:23):
Even if we never set foot on Venezuelan land again,
it's still locked in there, and last I checked, you
can't drink it and use it yourself. And so I
think the demonstration of this has already been quite significant,
and it matters a lot because Colombia's next door Mexico
has some strategic choices to make, and there's the always
elusive Cuba. I think that's the right pronunciation. It has

(01:01:47):
to think about what next for them, because they had
some of their security people who proved completely incapable of
stopping America.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
Yeah, that's an incredibly good point with that. Also with Iran,
because Iran was I didn't realize. I mean, I knew
that they had an agreement and they assembled drones for Iran,
but it wasn't exactly secret of they had a pretty
big drone trade program with Iran. So here you had
Russia who was working with Venezuela, China working with Venezuela,

(01:02:17):
Iran working with Venezuela. It seemed like Venezuela was the
lynchpin of this malicious trifecta. These foreign actors that really
wanted to destabilize the United States. And I still realized
this is in the early days, and I'm sure there
are mistakes that can't be made. I've yet to see
one or been persuaded that one has been made yet.

(01:02:37):
But in your view, how much does this reshape the
hemisphere now after this was done, because it was one
quick move, but it hit three different sovereign nations.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
It did.

Speaker 9 (01:02:52):
And I think that when a lot of people think
of the Monroe doctrine, they think it's sort of America
saying we're going to be the boss of the block.
And maybe it has some of that going on, and
you know, those with power do get to set the
rules from time to time, but really what it was
more about was saying that outside powers were not going
to carve up this hemisphere against our interests. And so

(01:03:14):
that I think is very consistent with what the Trump
administration's new national security strategy was talking about. When Steven
Miller has gone on TV to try to explain more
about this, sometimes in pretty ferocious tones with the lefty
journalists that try to poke holes in this, but it's
just making very very clear, you know, you try to
kill our people, you try to do illegal things in

(01:03:36):
this hemisphere only one hundreds of miles from our shores,
and we're not going to keep putting up with this
for impunity. Past presidents of both parties have given lip
service to this kind of stuff, but this is the
first time anyone said, you know what, I'm going to
go ahead and put the hammer down. It's not going
to be invaded and occupy and run forever. We might
not even take the oilo though President Truck keeps talking
about that. Who knows. But even if we don't take

(01:03:58):
any of the oil, this has reset things in.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
A profound way in our hemisphere. And whether people like
it or not, I think I think there are a
lot of.

Speaker 9 (01:04:04):
Knee jerk intellectuals that are sort of professors without classrooms
out there saying, oh no, this is isolationism.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
You're pulling back from Europe and Asia. Well, I'm not so.

Speaker 9 (01:04:14):
Worried about Europe, but when it comes to Asia, do
you think that those powerful countries expect we're going to
be worth our weight if we can't even guard our
own sovereign nation and are NEU abroad? And so this
has a powerful demonstration effect affects supply chains, but it
definitely will affect the range of options we have to

(01:04:36):
bring power to bear in other places if we get
our own hemisphere.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
That's a great point. That's a very great point.

Speaker 5 (01:04:43):
I like the professors without classrooms, because that's what it
seems like with a lot some of these critics that
I feel like everyone thinks that warfare, these individuals, they
think that warfare is still we're still stuck in the
days of redcoats, where everyone lines up in a nice
orderly fashion and then we just take turn shooting each
other and whoever has the most AMMO basically wins.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
It's not how it's done.

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
I mean, it really is a form of astommetrical warfare,
and China was really part of that. And I think
that China personally correct me if I'm wrong on this.
I think they were the biggest driver of this in Venezuela.
I mean their relationship with the cartels, there push of fentanyl,
their push of cocaine, and Venezuela being you know, the
prime driver, a major driver of this. I feel like

(01:05:25):
they were the ones that stood to lose the most
and have lost the most now that Maduro's out.

Speaker 9 (01:05:31):
I think this was a lot too that I mean
in fairness Venezuela, but was basically a nexus for anyone
who is trying to run things that should be regulated
or stopped or otherwise illegal. And so whether it was
illicit finances, illicit manufacturing, supply chains, weapons trades, whether it
was Islamist radicals who are trying to preposition in this

(01:05:53):
hemisphere and embed in the migration waves that came, they
were a whole host of bad things, actually a devil's
playground within arm's reach of the United States of America.
And there's just no excuse for letting that just go
on with impunity. China for sure was hit hard in that,

(01:06:14):
and of course don't shed any tears, but there should
be more public discourse about how deep in that kimchi
they were, because they try to talk about this rules
based international order and win win solutions and it's the
bad United States that's out there trying to impose its will,
but they're deeply embedded in a lot of illegal, terrible

(01:06:36):
lethal things. Not to say, Dana, just as a point
of personal privilege, I've gotten a lot of people coming
at me trying to say that they weren't a part
of the fensonal trade. And I'd like to introduce them
to a ten cent dictionary word known as fungibility. That
when you are out there pumping the money laundry, when
you're out there pumping the gangs. And when my daughter,

(01:06:58):
who did not have education, could tell me more than
any of these armchair yahoos could, that there were Venezuelan
gangs operating in Colorado dispensing everything from cocaine to meth,
to heroin to s fentanyl laced tablets.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Too, she knew they were Venezuelan gangs.

Speaker 9 (01:07:18):
And to hell with these people who want to say
this wasn't a part of it. And even if it
wasn't a direct hit on all of them, all the
bad guys have to be saying, well, crap, If they
can do that there, who's to say they're not coming
around the corner here in the next week or month.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
AM into that?

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
And that is the piece through strength, That's exactly I mean,
that's what it buys. Steve Yates, our very good friend.
I so appreciate your perspective on this. I know we're
going to have a lot to talk about in the
weeks to come, because this is the ripple effect is
still going. I'll be had a blessed Christmas and a
happy New Year. And we are so grateful that you
are so generous with your expertise and you share it
with us as often as you do.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Thank you so much, my friend. It's so good to
see you. Happy New Year.

Speaker 7 (01:08:00):
It's his lafe mission to make bad decisions.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
It's time for Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Man, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
So first, uh, we've got oh, I got a couple
things here.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
I don't even know where to start.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
So we had a thirty six year old Florida woman
who was arrested on child abuse charges because police say
that she held a six year old boy's head underwater
at a hotel pool in Kissing Me, Florida, and they
were called to the gay authorities said they were called
to the Gaylord Palms resort. Witnesses reported that the child
was forcibly submerged by the woman because he was bullying

(01:08:39):
her nonverbal autistic son, and Caine's expression just totally changed,
so she got involved. Investigators in surveillance video showed her
placing her hands on the kid's shoulders and putting him
underwater for a couple seconds, and it left him upset
et cetera, and then she yelled the boy's mother and
then left the pool area. She was charged with child
abuse and really some bomb with conditions that include no contact.

(01:09:02):
Uh the first thing is where were the parents?

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Number one?

Speaker 5 (01:09:06):
And if the parents don't get involved, I don't think sorry,
that wouldn't child abuse. That was just her defending her kid.
Either you control your kid or someone's gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
Whoop your kid's ass. That's the way it is. That's
the way it is.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
So I think that's ridiculous that they charged her with
us personally. Now, I will say I think the caveat
should be did she try to get the parents' attention?
I mean you can't just like, you know, drop not
pay attention to your kids, Like, come on, this is crazy.
But she But apparently, and according to witnesses, the nonverbal

(01:09:39):
autistic son that of this woman's had been bullied by
this kid and then she had enough and apparently intervened.
So yeah, you know, you find the ticket, take the ride.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
A Florida man and Red Lingerie had a gun under
prosthetic silicone boobs, and uh, yeah, this one I may
have to save. He said he was going to a
cost party. But then when deputies asked for further details,
Matthew Zacharino thirty nine, then he stopped talking. He stopped
talking about that. I have video with this sheriff Grady

(01:10:10):
John talking about it. We're gonna play that for you tomorrow.
Third Hour on the way next.

Speaker 10 (01:10:15):
He's a president, So Columbian President, Gustavo Petro.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
You know, a couple weeks ago you said he's got
to watch.

Speaker 10 (01:10:20):
His ass, and today he said he's not concerned about
anything happening to him in the aftermath of this operation.

Speaker 9 (01:10:26):
So just what your messages.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Well, he's cocaine mills, he has a factories where he
makes cocaine. And yeah, I think I stick by my
first statement. He's making cocaine. They're sending it into the
United States, So he does have to watch his ass.

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
Oh my gosh, that was just too funny. He's a gay,
he doesn't have to watch it. He just was just
very you know, stated the obvious. That was potus when
he was asked about you know, well, what do you think,
how do you think Columbia's leader is going to react
to this?

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
Welcome back to the program, Danie Lash with you top
of the third were first day back in the.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
New year, the legality of all of this, the action
in Venezuela. And I know there are a lot of
people that there's some that don't agree. In fact, one
of our guests that we're gonna have on coming up,
Senator Rampaul, who I love. Senator Rampaul is a lawmaker.
I mean, he's a good He's one of those that
I don't loath with every fiber of my being. Some

(01:11:24):
of you know, some of them in there, you're just
like I always appreciate the people who very sharply always are.
They're smart contrarians. I don't like contrarian for the sake
of being a contrarian. That's so empty and shallow. I
don't think Senator Paul's ever made a point that you know,
hasn't been a fair point to make. Doesn't say that

(01:11:47):
I agree with him all the time, but he's always
been very thoughtful in his approach on it. And you
appreciate those people because they you need people to pin
down that particular aspect of the discussion, whether or not
it was considered, you know, the legality of it. Whether
I don't know how I have not persuaded that this
was illegal. I don't understand. I don't even understand how

(01:12:08):
that argument is made, do you. I don't get I.
I mean, I've tried. I just don't understand why that is.
I just I don't agree with it. I just don't.

Speaker 7 (01:12:19):
It's inconsistent historically.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Well historically.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
And that's not to say, well, because we've done it
before that you know, means that we can, you know,
we keep doing it. We could that that's justification for it.
That's not what it is. The legality of it though.
And Jonathan Turley had a peace on this where he
was talking about the congressional approval required for different operations
and how with this particular operation, uh, potis did not

(01:12:45):
need congressional approval, by the way, if he would have
gotten if he would One of the things I really
do believe is if he even if he were to
have sought congressional approval, there goes the tactical advantage of surprise,
because they would have leaked this out in a heartbeat.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
You know that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
I don't care if it's classified. They would have leaked it.
It happens every time. I think that this kind of
shows that pot has learned a little bit of a
lesson from his first term, because a lot of stuff
got leaked his first term to the detriment of his plans.
And you cannot have the scale of operation with the

(01:13:29):
planning and everything that you had with leaks, it just
wouldn't have happened. It would never have happened. Now that's
and yes, I do think it's also missing is the
illegality of leaking classified information, which I mean we've seen
with a number of people and you know, a number
of Democrats and a number of lawmakers, they've leaked so
much classified information. I really I just can't take seriously

(01:13:51):
people that have, you know, their own behaviors that raise questions.
I just don't take the legitimacy of their claims.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
It's not you know, Ergo Decido or anything.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
It's just I simply just I cannot take seriously they're
any I don't believe they have any veracity. They're compromised,
and they're compromise, which makes me question their logic. So
that's you know, for insight onto that into that. But
they when you look at one of the things he
noted is going back to all the way to Nordega

(01:14:23):
and this was in I was in sixth grade, fifth
or sixth grade when this happened. This is in eighty nine,
and it was when you had Jim McGovern, who was
the then Democrat rep. From Massachusetts, who said, without authorization
from Congress and with the vast majority of Americans posed,
he said, Trump just or he Representative McGovern from Massachusetts declared,
Trump launched this unjustified strike, et cetera. But yeah, this

(01:14:47):
actually followed the same plan. Actually followed what Obama did
and going after bin Laden, it followed what Noriega did
and going after Bush. The other thing is too Congress
knew something like this was building, that we had blockade,
we had sanctions, there were other penalties. Trump had kind
of floated the idea, he had discussed it. That's one

(01:15:10):
of the reasons why you had that August speech when
Maduro was out daring Trump to go and get him
in Mira Flores, go and get me, et cetera. So
Congress could have actually done something to prevent it. Congress
did not pass a law or did not pass anything
to do such.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
So if you don't.

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
Do anything, you see what I'm saying, like, why are
you complaining? Why are you complaining furthermore, this wasn't against
a sovereign nation. It was going after someone who had
multiple warrants out for his capture and arrest. Also, it's
a national security issue, which it is. This is we're

(01:15:55):
talking about asymmetrical warfare. This was from what I have
been able to deduce, I am not persuaded that this
was an illegal action at all. Now some say, well,
the Vienna Convention and Tury address the whole consular relations
thing about international agreements. You have to notify on embassy,

(01:16:16):
give notice of arrest of a foreign national.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
I think that's goofy.

Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
Noriega argued that, and Turley noted that his arrest violated
national law because he had head of state immunity doctrine,
and the court rejected it because they never recognized Noriega
as the legitimate ruler of Panama. It is a fact
that Maduro was not the legitimate ruler of Venezuela. He

(01:16:42):
was not elected. He refused to relinquish control. Refusal to
relinquish control does not mean that it's not a substitute
for a free and fair election.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
Stop.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
And I'm sure that that's going to be something that's
brought up in Midduro's prosecution, the United States for the
Eleventh Circuit rejected the immunity claim. Now, there was also
the treaty providing the extradition of criminals that was in
May twenty fifth, nineteen oh four. Noriego's argued that his
capture violated that, but then Turtley noted the Supreme Court's

(01:17:19):
decision barred that argument in nineteen ninety two because the
issue is whether he writes he was abducted to the
United States with the superseding extradition treaty, and the Eleventh
held that he relied on this claim. And yet no,
he has not carried the burden. Therefore his claim fails.
So he had I mean, there wasn't what was it,

(01:17:42):
five years an outstanding arrest warrant, not a duly elected leader.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
He's tied.

Speaker 5 (01:17:49):
I mean, there's mounds of evidence tying him to criminal
drug cartels, and so.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
I how in the world is this illegal?

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
So I again, if you present to me an argument
that is convincing and factually unassailable, I'm open to being persuaded.
I'm not again, I'm not a partisan and I'm not
a zealot. I just don't see one here, I don't
see one. The only thing that Maduro is going to

(01:18:21):
be able to do in court is to rehash Noriega's
old arguments that all failed under multiple.

Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
Judicial reviews.

Speaker 5 (01:18:35):
And I think that Maduro's case is even crazier than
Noriega's case. So I just I don't see this as
being a violation of any kind of law. In fact,
the US Panama Extradition Treaty, that's what Noriega was trying
to say that he was trying to rely upon that.

(01:18:56):
They said that to prevail on an extradition treaty claim,
a defendant must demonstrate, by reference to the express language
of a treaty and or established practice there under, that
the US affirmatively affirmatively agreed not to seize foreign nationals
from the territory of its treaty partner. He's not carried
this burden, and therefore his claim fails. You can't claim
it's a regime change when you're not changing a regime.

(01:19:18):
You're going after a failed leader who did not win
an election, who refused to relinquish power, and who was
carrying out asymmetrical warfare against the United States. Again, if
we also want to talk about no war for oil,
Then why wasn't that complaint lodged at Majuro or before
him Javes when they literally seized American infrastructure, like our

(01:19:44):
American dollars went into that as an energy agreement with Venezuela.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
And then when.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
Javes took control, they seized that, they nationalized everything, and
they did not at all in any way give money.
They did not at all any way pay off any
debt for that. There were people who do not receive compensation.
They just had their stuff stolen. And we're talking to

(01:20:12):
the tune of billions upon billions of dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
So that's it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
The point that Stephen Yates made last segment when he
mentioned the Monroe doctrine, it is as much as not
allowing entities to grow and pose a threat to the
United States as it is not allowing Europe or anyone
else to slice up the hemisphere. That's it, and yes
it's our hemisphere. The United States is the biggest, richest nation.

(01:20:38):
And by the grace of God, we love liberty, Thank heavens.
What if we had the ideology of these third world
hell holes, Well, we wouldn't be the richest, most powerful
nation because that ideology does not deliver that kind of
result in terms of leadership or in terms of economic
or military growth.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
It just doesn't. Just doesn't. So that's just the way
it is.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
So I again, I'm not a zealot and I'm not
a partisan, and I'm completely open to being persuaded. But
I don't see that argument here at all. I just
I simply just don't see it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:21:15):
It's this was a very surprising. I wanted to read
this or part of it. This was a very surprising.
I can't believe this was a piece in the New
York Times, The New York Times. I know headline Trump
was right to oust Maduro. The Times publishes quote Maduro's
governance drove millions of Venezuelans out of the country, feel

(01:21:39):
in a migration crisis at America's southern border. He gave
American rivals China, Russia and Iran a foothold in our backyard.
The security of the United States, Latin America and the
world stand to benefit now that mister Murduro is out
of power. The potential benefits of Maduro's removal run much deeper,
particularly in Venezuela itself. Maduro was an odious and incompetent
leader who engaged in human rights violations and badly mismanaged

(01:22:00):
to his country's economy. While he was in office, Venezuela's
gross domestic product contracted by eighty percent, poverty rate rose
to ninety percent, hyperinflation peaked at one hundred and thirty
thousand percent. Maduro's removal provides the opportunity for a better government, economy,
and future for the Venezuelan people end quote. One of
the things also no one talks about is he they

(01:22:20):
tried to act like, oh, well, we're going to increase
pay for people, We're going to increase pay for people
who work in this particular sector, and when they did,
they ended up shuddering over forty percent of their remaining
private or not somewhat private Venezuela. It's how they operate
businesses that were really kind of dragging the rest of
the economy along, and that created a greater economic crisis

(01:22:42):
they which is insane considering all.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
Of the resources this nation sits on.

Speaker 5 (01:22:50):
I mean, you look at Saudi Arabian, you look at UAE,
and you look at these oil rich nations where everybody
over there is basically rolland and Doe and Venezuela could
be the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
It would be amazing to have that kind of neighbor.

Speaker 5 (01:23:05):
We the United States does not want to be singular
in its power and leadership. We want other like minded neighbors.
A rising tide or tide rises, you know, raises all ships.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
That's the way it is.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
We would I mean, I would love to see healthy neighbors.
I would love to be able to you know, how
cool would it be to like be like, oh, I'm
going to going to Venezuela, what's up? And not have
to worry about being murdered because of your affiliation, your
political affiliation back home or capture heaven knows what else.
It's just it's so sad because it's so unnecessary. But

(01:23:41):
this is why they don't again, they don't even have
the more sophisticated infrastructure required to expand extraction and refinement
of their heavier sludgy reccrued. It's one of the reasons
why they don't have a better extractional golden copper. I mean,
good night, just the gas and the minerals.

Speaker 7 (01:23:57):
Alone, and now all of the news you would probably miss.
It's time for Dana's Quick five all.

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
Right, So first up, smart rings are poised to go
mainstream after they had like a really big last year.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Those are the what is it? Those are like the.

Speaker 7 (01:24:17):
Babe, yeah your heart great and different biometrics. I think
you're on this ring.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
It's the one ring to rule them all. I watched
a movie about this, Yeah, totally did.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
I don't like that. I don't like that idea.

Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
They they're like these weird ceramic They have a Galaxy,
a Samsung ring, they.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Have a Aura ring, and I don't know, I just
think they're weird.

Speaker 5 (01:24:40):
They said that it took a decade, but the smart
rings commonitors, sleep, activity, high rate, and just spy on
your life. I don't like that. I don't need that. No,
I don't ow who wants that? Stop being tracked? My gosh.
We don't need to be digitally babysat with everything good night.
We have not evolved as a species to the point

(01:25:00):
where we have to have, or ever at all, where
we have to be babysat by little digital devices. That's
what people buy to make themselves feel important. I'm sorry,
but I think it's a vanity. It is an absolute
vanity object that's not being honest about being a vanity object.
Other indulgent vanity objects are at least honest about it.
This one print in that's for I don't buy any
of it. I think it's all superfluous stupidity. That's exactly

(01:25:23):
what it is. Let's see big crash on nine ninety
five in Florida. It was cabbage. Why do they call
it lettuce?

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
That's cabbage.

Speaker 7 (01:25:30):
Story has not no food and it's cabbage.

Speaker 5 (01:25:35):
That's not let us, that's straight up cabbage all over
the road. Man, You know what I really really want
a good like beef marrow stew with.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
That oh we got. Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
I didn't even get into the warhammer toys that were
stolen from a Grant County storage unit, lots of them,
Senator Rampaul.

Speaker 8 (01:25:50):
Next the Danish show podcast You're fast, funny and informative
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Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
Welcome back to the program.

Speaker 5 (01:26:03):
If you're not listening terrestrially around the country, you're probably
watching us on DirecTV channel through forty seven.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
Also at YouTube x and everywhere else.

Speaker 5 (01:26:11):
So we've been covering not just the early leering centers,
but also the unbelievable operation that happened with Venezuela and
extracting Nicholas Maduro, who's now in New York. We were
talking about why that was in the southern district of
New York and not someplace like Florida. There is, though,
always still room for opportunity for things to go sideways,

(01:26:35):
and I think that's now where we have to turn
our attention. Everybody gets very, very excited when we have
engagements like this, operations like this, and I think maybe
it's because we've been without serious, decisive leadership for so long,
and maybe that's why people get very excited about it. However,
at the same time, where's it going to go? Are

(01:26:55):
we going to have like Mission creep like we had
in Iraq and Afghanistan? But what are we going to
expect next. Who's going to be in power, who's going
to be after Majuro? How involved is the United States
going to be? And I think it's safe to say
that you can like that Majuro is out, but also
still be very invested and concerned about what the answers
to those questions are. And that brings us to our

(01:27:18):
next guest Senator Rand Paul. As you know, he's been
on the program many times. He's one of the few
lawmakers we actually like in Washington, DC. And if you
haven't read his book Deception, the Great COVID COVID Cover Up,
you need to. I'm going to ask him about the
J six stuff here coming up, because that's a whole
other can of worms. But Senator, I hope you had
a wonderful Christmas, Happy New Year to you. I think
these are fair questions to ask. I mean, I understand

(01:27:41):
the arguments about asymmetric warfare and narco terrorism and all
of that, But what I get concerned about is what
does the commitment look like. I don't think there should
be a commitment. I understand also the arguments about America's
infrastructure as it relates to energy, but what happens next
and what concerned you about where it could go?

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
I think there are a couple of different issues here,
and the first issue would be was the Maduro regime evil.
And I think without question we can all agree to
that our socialist regimes in general evil. I think we
can agree to that. I wrote a book called The
Case against Socialism, and in there we talked about sponsored
socialism inevitably leads to state sponsored violence, and that's what

(01:28:26):
happened in Venezuela. So nobody is mourning the loss of Maduro.
That is really not necessarily an issue at all. We
can next ask ourselves, will it practically work? Will the
people of Venezuela choose something better the next time? We
have to understand that it isn't the first time they've
chosen socialism, And although the most recent elections have been fixed,

(01:28:50):
many of the elections since the nineteen seventies were not
thought to be fixed and resulted in socialism. They first
nationalized the natural gas industry back in nineteen seventy one,
they nationalized the oil companies in nineteen seventy six, and
the progression of socialism got worse and ended up with authoritarianism.
But the question is if there were free and fair

(01:29:11):
elections with the people of Venezuela choose something better this
next time around. There's practical questions about whether or not
this leads to civil war, But there's yet another question.
That's the question that I'll be faced with this week
as we'll have a debate over whether or not it's
constitutional for the president to bomb a nation's capital and
remove another leader of another nation? Is that constitutional to

(01:29:35):
do that without the approval or authorization of Congress. When
our founding fathers debated this when they got together at
the Constitutional Convention, when they wrote in the Federalist papers,
there was pretty much universal agreement from Hamilton at one
end and Jefferson at the other that they believe that
the president shouldn't have this power. In fact, Madison wrote

(01:29:56):
that the executive is the branch most prone to war.
Therefore we have I was studied care vested that power
in the legislature. Could they have declared war here? They've
been planning this invasion for four months. Of course they
could have. Now, some will argue, well, then it wouldn't
be a surprise. Well, the armada, the largest armada, has
been off the coast of Venezuela for three months. They

(01:30:18):
had to know there was a good possibility it was coming.
The president doesn't have to warn us when he acts
or what he does. But once the war is declared,
then this would have been a justified action by the
president according to our rules. Now why is that important, Well,
there are dozens of people around the world that we
could depose. For example, in Brazil, many of us think

(01:30:40):
Bolsonaro has been unfairly imprisoned now for life, basically by
the Silvia government. Or would it be okay for Donald
Trump to invade the capital of Brazil tomorrow, pluck out
the president and say to Bolsonaria you were unfairly treated.
Now your president again? Or what about Saudi Arabia? Are
until reports concluded that the leader of Saudi Arabia was

(01:31:04):
involved with the murder of an American journalist or someone
visiting America? Kushow game, would it be okay if he
were put under indictment by a grandeury in New York
to pluck him out of you know, bomb Ri odd
and then pluck him out of Saudi Arabia. So there
really is a question of constitutional authority, whether it resides
with Congress or with the president, and we will have

(01:31:25):
that debate. And my conclusion is that, no, the president
doesn't have the power. Am My glad Moduro is gone?
Of course, am I glad that Venezuelans have a chance
to opt for something other than socialism? Of course I'm
happy with that, and I hope for the best. But
at the same time, I still have to stick by
my oath, which is to defend the constitution.

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
I know we're talking with Senator Rampaul. I know, Senator
you said that you were going to vote for the
war power Zach, which I agree with, and I think
that that's you know, that's completely justifiable.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
And that's for those who don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:31:55):
When the president chooses to take up any kind of
kinetic apa or armed forces or or armed force action
of that sort, there's a forty eight hour period. Congress
has to be notified, and then you have to there's
a limitation on hostilities, and there's a clear limitation as
to what the commander in chief can do. Do you
think that because there are many out there and I've

(01:32:17):
yet to be I under I believe in the constitutional process,
but I also understand that there are extenuating circumstances. Do
you think that Venezuela presents one of those extenuating circumstances
because of its proximity to the United States, the involvement
of China and Iran. How do you view that issue

(01:32:39):
in this context?

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Well, you could argue that we're doing this because they
are narco terrorists and we're all dying from their drugs.
But apparently that would only be true if you kept
the president, the former president of Honduras in jail, who's
convicted of importing and laundering, you know, thousands of pounds
of drugs in our country. I was interviewed recently and
they said, well, what about the fentanyl. What about the fentanyl.

(01:33:03):
There's no fentanyl coming. There is absolutely no fentanyl made
in Venezuela. It's made in Mexico. Ninety nine point nine
percent of fentanyl comes from Mexico. And so the best
thing we can do for fentanyl is actually control the border.
And I compliment the president. Look, I have disagreements with
President Trump, but no president has done a better job
at controlling the border faster and really without any extra money.

(01:33:25):
He did it by sheer force of his personality. He
shut the border down with Mexico. That's the best thing
we've done, and I think desks will continue to declimb.
But I think it was a ruse to say this
was about drugs. One other part of the indictment, which
is bizarre that most Americans don't know about, is they've
also indicted Maduro for possessing machine guns.

Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
Yeah, I don't get that one. I don't get that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
It shows you the bizarre nature of this. In nineteen
thirty four, our country passed a gun law that said
that Americans are not allowed to own machine guns. And
that's true. If you have a machine gun, not a
semi automatic weapon, but a machine gun in our country,
you can be arrested. But what does that have to
do with Venezuela and with a leader? Don't you think
almost every leader of every country in the world has

(01:34:12):
security that have a machine gun.

Speaker 5 (01:34:13):
I mean I once interviewed the mayor of East Saint
Louis and he I've never seen Uzzi's in person in
my life. And it was Carl Officer Junior, and he
had two bodyguards on either side of them with Uzzi's.
That was the first time I ever saw like fully
automatic in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
But this is this is the ruse of this indictment.
They say this was not war. It was we were
capturing an indicted individual. Now what's he indicted for? An
American crime of having a gun, machine gun, an American
crime of peddling drugs? These are American laws. How do
we indict people for American laws who don't live in America?

(01:34:50):
It's sort of a bizarre notion, but really it's a ruse.
It's regime change. They wanted him gone for a lot
of reasons that I that I agree with. He was
a despicable leader, impoverished as people. His people lost thirty
pounds inadvertently over the last couple of years because of starvation.
I wrote in my book The Case against Socialism of

(01:35:10):
a sixteen year old girl who's part of a gang
and her territory is a dumpster behind four restaurants where
she scavenges for food. I wrote of another young man
in Chicao who's was in charge of a gang that
would hunt pets to eat, and hunt rodents to eat
and pigeons to eat. That's what the story of socialism is.

(01:35:32):
But everybody's ignoring this. Venezuela went from being a great country,
but the decline began in nineteen seventy when they began
voting in socialists. This should be a debate between socialism
and capitalism, but it's a separate debate on the constitutionality,
separate from the debate between socialism and capitalism. But you
won't hear from this from the left, and you're not

(01:35:53):
hearing this from anybody on the right other than myself.
Is we need to try to encourage the Venezuelan people.
I say encourage because we don't get to vote. Encourage
them to choose capitalism, Encourage them to make contracts with
their oil companies. But we are I think the administration
is going to ruin the good will in that country
if they continue to insist it's our oil and we're

(01:36:14):
in charge and we're running the place. Imagine you're in
Venezuelan today holding up an American flag. You love Donald Trump,
you love the freedom that you now have, but then
you're being told that he owns your oil, that America
owns your oil, and American oil companies are going to
run Venezuela like we're in the Banana Republic in the
nineteenth century. That will embitter the people who are currently

(01:36:37):
optimistic and favorable to America. It's exactly the wrong thing
to do to say, we're next going into Colombia. You know,
there's rumors now that there's going to be an embargo
and we're going to surround Cuba and stop all trade
with Cuba and star of them until their government changes.

Speaker 5 (01:36:54):
Starved and be fair by their own government, say what's out.
They're already being starved by their own government.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
Sadly.

Speaker 5 (01:37:00):
Yeah, I agree with you on I think your point
that you're making too about the socialism versus capitalists argument.
I think that's a great point to make. I'm would
you be all right with because I agree. I think
the biggest danger right now is getting over our skis
with us because now everything, We've got to mitigate everything
at this point so that it doesn't As you said,

(01:37:22):
you don't want to burn through the goodwill of people
who desperately.

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
Do want to be free.

Speaker 5 (01:37:26):
And maybe the companies that lost that had their assets
seized by Chavez. I think it was like back in
nineteen seventy two when that nationalization began, not everybody was compensated.
Maybe giving their property back to them and allowing them
to make deals with Venezuelans. I think that would be
I mean, would you be in support of that? I
think that would I mean that seems like that would
be fair.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Well, it was Perez, the president was Perez in nineteen
seventy six. Most of the people are dead. I mean,
most of the people who ran the oil companies are dead.
Most of the people who ran the country are dead.
Sure it would be right, and you can make claims.
There are people, you know, when we pull up a
shipwreck off the coast of Florida from seventeen forty two,
you know, sometimes the insurance company says, we already paid

(01:38:06):
for that, we want the gold. So yes, you can
have multi generational, multi century sort of claims on property.
Sure it would be right. But what's not right and
what will backfire is demanding that the oil companies that
it's our oil, we're going to run the place. It
will ruin all the goodwill. So all I can say
is the people are jumping for joy. Great, the people

(01:38:28):
are celebrating this great. I celebrate with you the demise
and the removal. I don't celebrate the unconstitutional means, but
I do celebrate the removal. But we can't say, oh
my goodness. You know, we're just coming in. It's America.
Here comes America, and expect that the people are going
to love us for that. It's still unknown what will
happen here. We should hope for and we should engage

(01:38:52):
with them towards free elections. But people also have to
realize the socialists have won most elections in Venezuela. Since
nineteen seventy. We're talking about fifty five years of elections
where the socialists have won virtually every time. We have
to realize that a few years ago, this guy Guadeau,
that everybody said, oh, Buadeau, he'll be this great leader.

(01:39:14):
He was a socialist also, so some of the opposition
leaders are socialists. Socialism is the scourage here, it is
the evil. People like Maduro are just examples of the
nature of mankind that when too much power gravitates to
anyone man or a woman, they will abuse it. And
so you'll get another Maduro if you continue with socialism.

Speaker 5 (01:39:35):
If we play it too hard, we'll have another Maduro.
I agree with that. I do hope those companies get
there what they had seized from them back though that's
the one thing, because they did have the government took
their property, and I'm all for returning their property to them.
But I agree with you you can't say everything in
the Orinoco Belt hours, because I don't believe that. But
we should encourage a partnership. I need to ask you, though,

(01:39:55):
really quickly, before we let you go. The J six findings.
This is insane, and I know that you were talking
about this and in fact, I'm going to pull this up,
I haven't right in front of me.

Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
This is a crazy story.

Speaker 5 (01:40:07):
The findings on the weaponized watch listing that even I mean,
Christine Krowder, this was something these documents that were obtained
through the FBI. I was looking at this information. I mean,
we're talking about watch list, watch list that you can't
get off on watch list. There is no judicial review
at all whatsoever. Tell us about this because now we're

(01:40:28):
still finding out things that we had no idea about,
and Jay six Ers are still dealing with the outcome
of this.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
We know it all started when we heard about a
program called Quiet Skyes. This is a program where the
DHS and the TSA developed a watch list and they
would follow you, they would pat you down, they would
give you private room screenings, all of this to basically
harass you as you tied to travel. Telsey Gabbert was

(01:40:55):
added on this list. She was a former congresswoman. She's
now head of the Director of Nowational Intelligence. She was
put on this list. But what we found is other
ordinary citizens were too. So Christine Crowder was a woman
who was a Trump supporter who came to the Ellipse
at the White House. She came to the speech on
January sixth, but she never went to the Capitol. So

(01:41:17):
one of her nosy neighbors, who was also her enemy,
gossiped and said, oh, I've seen her. I saw her picture.
Here's a picture of her. She was writing, and here
she is in the Capitol. Well, gossips, not usually all
we convict people in our country, but they did. The
Biden FBI put her on a list. She was harassed
in airports for years. They searched her home, they did

(01:41:39):
surveillance of her home. They basically treated this woman like
a criminal for years. But you know what, within a
month of starting their investigation, they looked at her cell phone.
Her cell phone was at the White House, but was
never at the Capitol, is what she told the investigators.
But they kept her on the list even though they
knew she wasn't there. They did voice compare I mean

(01:42:00):
in facial comparisons. They knew it wasn't her, and yet
they continued to harass this poor woman for years. And
we only found out about this because her husband was
an air marshal and was able to get to the
bottom of this, and he became a whistleblower on this.
But look, he was one of our most trusted people.
He was privy to all this private information. And meanwhile

(01:42:22):
they were harassing his wife throughout all of this. And
so this is what the Biden administration did to January sixth.
It was weaponized the committee and what the Democrats did
to their fellow congressman by going after their phone records.
And then we discovered this thing called Arctic Frost where
the FBI actually went after and Jack Smith went after

(01:42:44):
and investigated members of the Senate and got their cell
phone records. These are high crimes and this is an
abuse that needs to be publicized so we never let
it happen again.

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
We need to make sure that these watch lists without
any judicial review or way for people to get from them,
cannot be.

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
It cannot continue. This is insane.

Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
I'd love to have you back, Senator Rampaul. Always a pleasure.
I appreciate you holding it down. Thank you so much, Senator.
We'll talk again soon. God bless you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:09):
Happy New Year.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:43:11):
Brighten up your timely news consumption with a Dana Show
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Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
So we're running a little short our first day back.
Make sure you go subscribe to the newsletter over at substack,
chapter and verse, because I'm gonna have a write up
over this. I'll be on waters World tonight in a
seven pm Central hour, and in the meantime back with
you behind the mic tomorrow. God bless and let's continue
in the new year.
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