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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And on a separate issue, free speech, Your Vice President
Vance said that free speech is under attack in the UK.
Do you agree with him? And Prime Minister, we saw
the dismissal of a very well known chat show host
in America last night. Mister Kimmel's free speech more under

(00:22):
attack in Britain or America.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he had bad ratings,
more than anything else, and he said a horrible thing
about a great gentleman known as Charlie Kirk. And Jimmy
Kimmel is not a talented person. He had very bad
ratings and they should have fired him a long time ago.
So you know, you can call that free speech or not.
He was fired for lack of talent.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I God loved Trump for saying that, seriously, because we
all I heard that question. This was I think this
was after we were off air, and I remember, you know,
we heard that question, and I thought, that's it's not
even remotely the same They're they're not the same thing

(01:05):
at all. We're going to talk a lot about that
today because I think a lot of people don't understand
what free speech is. And by a lot of people,
I mean the left and I don't think that they
understand the First Amendment, and I don't think that they
understand the consequences as it pertains to speech when you're
working for someone and they have like a clause in
their contract where they are like, yeah, you can't really

(01:25):
just say whatever you want to say without there being
any kind of consequences to it. That's not a free
speech issue. We're going to dive into that because I look,
I'm a free speech purist, but that's when it's an
argument of free speech. But this is not an argument
of free speech. It's not at all. So that's where

(01:48):
we're gonna, Like I said, we're going.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
To dive into it. We'll dive into it.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
So but that was Potus who is speaking. He had
a great visit, right, yeah, visit with the UK. We
was met there when they arrived and I think this
is huge by the Prince and Princess of Wales. And
then he met the King and the Queen over there
and they had this big state dinner and then they

(02:12):
they played the anthem and they I mean it was
just really nice all around. Trump was like super nice
in his remarks. I watched those he mentioned, you know
from the UK. We got the Magna Carta and he
you know, it was a really nice address and it
looked like everything was decorated to his tastes.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Got to say, a lot of.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Gold over there, could you. I was trying to get
over the length of that table. My gosh, it was
like my family at Christmas or Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
It was a long table.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
But it was incredibly significant in that they had never
so the fly pass that they did. I think I
mentioned this yesterday. Well, it was expected and it was
correct that they had US and UK jets that flew together.
The reception that he got was unlike anything other than
any other any other leader has gotten. I don't mean
just like any other American leader. So that's hugely important

(03:01):
because one of the big things that he met about
with Kier Starmer today was how the UK needs to
stop buying Russian oil and gas because you're funding the
thing that you're criticizing. And he was talking about oil
prices here if these oil prices go down, which they're
going to, et cetera, so they're making energy deals. I
thought that was great. That's exactly what I wanted to
happen over there. Exactly the conversation that I wanted to happen.

(03:22):
So that is, you know, a silver streak in this
abysmal fecal storm that we've had for the last two weeks.
So let's hit Jimmy Kimmel here, Jimmy Kimmel, if you
I don't, I've not watched I.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Have not watched a late night show in golly, I
I actually don't know, Cain, when's the last time you
watched a late night show.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
It wasn't this year, it was I don't even think
it was last year.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I'm trying to think who was hosting that we watched
if I remember, of the three.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
I think Jimmy Fallon was my favorite, and I think
the last full show I've seen was a Jimmy Fallon show.
But I'm I'm thinking two years ago.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
My point being is that it's a dying genre, and
I think that that's why a lot of and I
bring that up, not you know, I bring it up
because I think that's why a lot of people don't
know the stuff that Jimmy Kimmel says, because nobody watches it.
Nobody watches it. That's one of the reasons why jim Oh,
the other Jimmy geez, they all have the same name.
They can't even get people with different names. That's why
Jimmy Fallon always did these like short digital bits. So anyway,

(04:35):
I wrote about this. It's in the it's in the headlines.
There's a couple of pieces up the situation with Kimmel.
So after he said what he said, and I don't
know if you guys are familiar with what he said,
we had played it and he went out when we
played it, when it happened, I he went out and
he acute. Well, he said that the killer for the Kirk,

(04:59):
the Kirk assassination, he said that the killer was maga.
It was some right wing maga kid, is what he said.
I mean, he's twenty two years old, not a kid,
but whatever said that he was some right wing maga kid,
and that basically blaming the right for the death of Kirk. Okay,

(05:23):
so that's what he was going with. And he said,
I mean, this is these are his words. It's nobody
else's words. They're his words. And he he said other
things as well. I'm gonna look, I will say this.
He had also said blah blah blah that it was
awful et cetera. In a separate SoundBite, however, he also
said went out and said, yes, this was a right
wing it was a right wing maga guy that did it,

(05:44):
and that was the line that was crossed because he
had been he said some pretty horrible things before and
everyone's like, gotle this is just awful. But going out there, now, look,
this is the left that did this. So don't sit
here and tell me, well, the right needs to not
be like the left. I don't think you guys realiz
that we haven't yet suspended the rules of the old
regime yet. Are you paying less taxes? Oh you're not, okay?

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Then? Do you have the Epstein files? Oh you don't
okay then, So we're not exactly operating under a full
regime change yet because you have to weed out all
the little bastards at all these little agencies.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
So that's where we are. So these are their rules.
They wanted to follow these rules. In fact, they wanted
you to follow these rules so much. They don't want
to follow these rules for themselves. So they said that
after what he had said. Next Star, which is a
communications company and owns a lot of these networks, they
said they are not they're not going to air his program.

(06:41):
They're not going to air his program. And then after
Nextstar Sinclair, here's a Next Star statement that WANT is
showing you. If you're watching us do the radio show
channel through forty seven Direct TV or the chat at
Rumble or on X or Facebook, you can see it there.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
That's the first.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
So this was that's the first statement that came out,
and they said that we are not going to air
in light of his comments, et cetera. Now they did
not say, notice what you did not see in that statement.
You did not see the FCC told us, the Trump
administration told us. Brendan Carr told us.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
You didn't see any of that. And so.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
After Next Star, Sinclair released a statement here I have
it now, which is very similar, saying the same thing,
you know, in light of his comments, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
You know, blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
And then ABC sees this and ABC goes, oh my gosh,
we can't we can't have this, so they pulled him.
Now he's not fired, he's suspended. What is it indefinitely?

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I think.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
He is suspended indefinitely. And this was after again Kimmel
said that the Maga gang was trying to score points
and they took out their own That's literally what he
was saying. He said that they were quote trying to
characterize the kid who killed Charlie Kirk as anything other
than one of them, and he went off on it
for about five ten minutes. Now, if he would have

(08:12):
just you know, been his usual despicable self, that would
be one thing. But ABC Next Star and Sinclair, who
the last I check, are not government agencies. They decided
that it was too much for them and they didn't
want they didn't want to have they didn't want to
be associated with it. They didn't want to be associated So.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
This was.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
A private business decision that I see it. That's how
I look at it. It was a private business decision.
Now I am trying to wrap my mind around the
people who are insisting that this is somehow a First
Amendment censorship issue. Keep in mind that these people, my
friend made this point, they're more upset over Jimmy Kimmel
getting suspended than they are Charlie Kirk getting shot in

(08:58):
the neck. Clearly, with the Left, they don't understand employment agreements.
The entire reaction that they're having right now rests on
the assumption that the FCC and the administration behaved the
same that Democrats did with tech companies when they came

(09:20):
down and threatened and pushed and threatened and bullied. There
are receipts, So please, dear Heavens, don't be the drive
by that denies it, because there are receipts out there,
and by receipts, I mean literal emails where FCC commissioners,
FCC Department, FCC staffers are emailing with various members of
Congress and extorting them to put pressure on platforms like

(09:42):
the Apple Store with parlor or Twitter with conservative accounts
that are simply questioning the COVID narrative or questioning the
efficacy of the latest injection. They wanted Facebook to put
pressure on political act associations are that have Facebook pages
and different individ a counts that they said spread COVID
what's the magic word misinformation. They assume that the FCC

(10:09):
behaved as Democrats did with the I R S and
TEA parties, going after tea party groups, preventing them from
assembling lawfully so that they could try to go and
get them with a violation of federal elections.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Campaign financing laws after.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
They assume their entire reaction assumes that these that the
current administration is doing exactly what the Biden administration did,
ensuing reporters and persecuting reporters and wire tapping reporters, or
laundering disinformation from actual Kremlin spies through reporters, and then

(10:45):
getting a PISA warrant without any substance or legal bearing
at all whatsoever, to go and spy on people because
of their politics. So the left's entire reaction assumes that
Democrats are that this administration is doing exactly what democrats did.

(11:06):
Absent Unlike those examples, there is no evidence of any
of that here. Absent any evidence of that, I assume
that ABC, Next Star and Sinclair, who are all their
own companies and not government agencies, once again, just to
clarify that they made the decision to do this themselves.

(11:30):
Now the left is apoplectic. They are so upset over this,
so upset, and some are saying that this is the
end of free speech in America. I thought the end
of free speech was when they were shutting down thousands
of voices over the Hunter Biden laptop. I thought the
end of free speech was when they were firing people

(11:51):
for asking questions about the JAB. I thought the end
of free speech was refusing medical service to people who
were voicing to with having to get the injection before
they receive said medical services.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
I mean, I could sit here and go on and
on and on.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
So I guess what I'm saying is that I just
don't take very seriously these cries of protestation.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
We're going to talk about this more and get into
the weeds with it a little bit.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
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this is what Charlie had expressed as to what he
wanted in the event of his death. So we are

(12:42):
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Speaker 5 (14:21):
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Speaker 3 (14:26):
All right, So getting into actual headlines here and not
some of the stuff that we had just from the
first up. First thing up, the FED approves quarter point
interest rate cut and sees two more this coming year.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
You really do think that they're going to do that?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
They should be more I'm getting real like Charlie Brown
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Speaker 5 (14:48):
And rightfully so, but they should be way more aggressive
than this.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
We've been saying this for like six months now, So
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Speaker 4 (14:57):
To be so?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
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Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we might have proved Okay, well, like.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
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(15:25):
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Speaker 4 (15:36):
They think it was a targeted act.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
You think the guy literally ran he had to turn
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speed at the only gate that's on the road, and
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(15:59):
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Speaker 6 (16:03):
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Speaker 3 (16:04):
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(16:28):
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Speaker 4 (16:37):
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Speaker 8 (18:09):
That is why we exist, not to knuckle under, not
to do what we're told, but to stand up and
to say listen, if you want to pull these licenses,
then we're going to go to court and we'll be
in the court of public opinion. But you don't get
to go on a podcast and set policy for American media,
for an American media institution that's been around a lot

(18:31):
longer than me, you or Donald Trump. This is a
redline that have been crossed for our industry, for the
First Amendment, for the right of people to speak. There
was nothing hateful about what was said, and even hateful
speech is protected. This is not acceptable. If you are

(18:52):
going to run a media organization is called a news organization,
you have to stand up to government building anywhere in
the world, and certainly in.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
The United States, how do they I'm just trying to
figure out, and that's Van Jones. What are he's talking
about with with like government bullying because I didn't I mean,
did you guys see any kind of government bullying. I
didn't see any government bullying. I didn't see anything from
the FCC. I didn't see anything like that. I didn't
see Brendan Carr trying to put pressure on Joe bite

(19:21):
or Trump I didn't, I didn't, or Trump trying to
put pressure on ABC. He would say, oh, I hear
Jimmy Kimmel's next, or something like that. But let's be
honest about it. Do you guys know what Jimmy Kimmel's
ratings were. Okay, so his ratings, his ratings were actually
worse than Cole Bear's. Yeah, Deadline Hollywood had talked about

(19:49):
his tough ratings, like some weeks ago. There are several
that and he's apparently lived over all of this, but
at the same time, he had a major drop in viewers.
And I'm looking at a couple of different these are
like like actual industry reports on this that come from

(20:11):
ratings and viewership, et cetera. So according to Nielsen, he
Colbert was beating Kimmel. That's wow, he was, I mean,
actually Colbert was beating Yeah, Colbert was beating Kimmel. That's

(20:31):
insane because Colbert's ratings were really bad. They were really bad.
And this was even let's see, even before Colbert left,
he was actually dominating Kimmel.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Okay, So this also.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Seems kind of like it's sort of like how Colbert
was very upset and how people. You know, Colbert was like, ok,
he ultimately was not bringing in the eyeballs to sustain
their ad rates. I mean, I gotta tell you, it
kind of seems like Jimmy Kimmel's the same here.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Am I wrong? Kingo Danner, You're not wrong, You're totally right, Danum,
You're totally correct.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
It just seems like that's kind of exactly what happened
to that is what Colbert did. Colbert wasn't getting the
eyeballs in. I'm looking at this, there's a couple of things.
Jimmy Kimmel's his show slipped, so Colbert actually almost had
a million more viewers. This tracks into the most recent

(21:38):
Key eighteen to forty nine demographic with Nielsen data in
quarter two.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
This is why Colbert was still on air.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
I mean, he was dominating, He was beating Kimmel, and
he had found would kind of go back and forth.
So Jimmy Kimmel's ratings were lower than that of Stephen Colbert,
who already had bad ratings. I think that Disney and
AB see we're looking to offload him, and that they're
just using this as an excuse honestly. I mean, because

(22:06):
that is that is, you know, that is bad his ratings.
What I'm gonna do is, I'm gonna put this this
piece in your prep email for you subscribers so that
you can, I mean, it gets into the numbers of it.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
You're probably gonna find it boring, but.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's still rather enlightening considering you know, I mean, it's
very enlightening. So that he can get as mad as
he wants to. But it doesn't seem like the problem
is Trump and the FCC or this administration. All Trump

(22:43):
did was say great news for America. The ratings challenged
to Jimmy Kimmel shows, canceled, congrats for ABC, blah blah blah,
kimal has zero talent, et cetera, et cetera. That doesn't
mean that he got involved and put pressure on it.
That just means he's gloating about it after he's gloating
about the business decision. After Look, if there was evidence
that you had this administration in any way even remotely

(23:03):
getting near to what the Biden administration did, that's one thing.
But that there is no evidence to that, And frankly,
I don't want to hear people like Van Jones and
all of these other folks say, this is a red
line that's been crossed for our industry. Did you guys
say that with Gino Carano? Did you guys say that
with Roseanne? Did you guys say that with Matthew Marsden?
I mean, do you want to go run down the

(23:24):
list of all of the celebrities that have been blacklisted
because of their political beliefs? I mean, just look at
what they did to Sidney Sweeney over a denim ad
Do you honestly believe that these people give a rats
backside about it? You know, all the line's been crossed.
The line was already crossed by you. You crossed it,

(23:45):
Eric Swawell oh wait, here's we played?

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Chuck Schumer thrown a fit? Didn't we played that already? Correct?
Is that what we played? No audio? Some by fourteen?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
This is him having a tantrum, go ahead, and he's
so livid over this, a Schumer.

Speaker 9 (23:58):
Your reaction to this outrageous. It's a page right out
of She's playbook. This is just despicable.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Right, discuss real quick. I'm so sorry. One one's gonna
hate you right now. I'm really sorry.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Okay, So he's he's invoking Chiesien Ping. You mean the
Jjen Ping that you guys literally rolled out, literally rolled
out the red carpet for in California, and you threw
all the homeless people out into the woods, and you
went and cleaned up the streets just for the brief
moment that Jijenping was in town. And then you literally
flew the communist sickle of the CCP flag right next
to the stars and stripes when he came, because you
were so busy kissing his big o' CCP. But really

(24:31):
that okay, go ahead, Sorry a Shumer, your reaction to.

Speaker 9 (24:35):
This, it is outrageous. It's a page right out of
She's playbook. This is just despicable, disgusting and against democratic values.
Trump and his allies seemed to want to shut down
speech that they don't like to hear. That is not
what democracies do. That is what autocracies do. And it

(24:56):
doesn't matter whether you agree with Kimmel or not. He
has the right to free speech. And so it is
just outrageous. It is indicative of autocracy and I am
just outraged by it. Again, this is what dictators do.
This is what she would do, this is what Putin
would do. We are not that country.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
So like, what did he do?

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Does he think that ABC and Next Star in Sinclair
are government agencies?

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Does he think that that's part of the Trump administration.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
You guys know, ABC is so conservative, right, Oh my gosh,
so conservative? Come on, people, come on, this is so ridiculous.
It's not like I said. That's why I don't view
it as a free speech issue. I don't view it
as that because it's not. Now again, show me where

(25:46):
the FCC put pressure. But this is the line that
the media, this is all they want to push audio
some on bite fifteen, Tater, I mean Brian Stealter. He
says this as well. He's been He pushes this narrative.
They are not learning, they're not learning.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Listen to this.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
And then we're talking about comedy. This is so serious, Aaron,
America is a less free place if late night comedians
cannot do and say what they want. Of course, they
can be tuned out, people can change the channel. That's
how we vote, that's how we have our say in America.
But this really does have a chilling effect across the
American media. And it's not just me saying it. We've

(26:23):
heard from the group Fire in the past few minutes,
the Free Speech Group fire saying, quote the government pressure
at ABC, and ABC caved quote. We cannot be a
country where late night talk show hosts serve at the
pleasure of the president. But until institutions grow a backbone
and learn to resist government pressure, that is the country
we are. And just one more note airon I vote.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
In Wait, so he's like insisting that there was government pressure,
But where was the government pressure. I'm curious as to
whether or not they all had the same sentiment. This
is flashback audio. Which cut is this because there's a
million This is when Kimmel was laughing about Tucker Carlson
being fired. This was pretty crazy, guys. Remember this audio
sound bite eight. Listen, this is from twenty twenty three.

Speaker 10 (27:07):
Fox News has severed bow ties with Tucker Carlson after
all these years. They are parting ways, which means he
was fired.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I mean, that's really what parting ways means.

Speaker 11 (27:17):
Tucker.

Speaker 10 (27:20):
Tucker couldn't be reached for comment. He's already on a
plane to Moscow to meet with his manager. But what
a shock, I mean, what an absolutely delightful shock. This
is Now Tucker can spend more time at home tanning
his testicles and touching himself to that sexy green M
and M. Sadly, he's probably not done poisoning old people's brains.

(27:40):
The question now is where will he do it next?
Will he go to O A N Will he go
to Newsmax? Will he crawl back up Satan's fiery be hole?

Speaker 11 (27:47):
From whence he came?

Speaker 5 (27:48):
We don't know.

Speaker 10 (27:49):
One of the most despicable mother tuckers ever to appear
on American television.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I'm curious did they find Where was everybody at that
moment when they were taught? Where were the van Joneses
and the Brian Stelters when they were saying that, oh
my gosh, a line has been crossed?

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Where was that where? I mean, I'm just curious. Yeah,
that's right. I didn't hear anything from any of them.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Then.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
By the way, more Kimmel audio sound bite, Ninem speaking
of cancel culture. This is about the most cancelly of
cancel culture. I can imagine.

Speaker 10 (28:21):
Listen, hospitals get any more over crowded, They're gonna have
to make some very tough choices about who gets an
ICU bet that joy doesn't seem so tough to me.
Vaccinated person having a heart attack. Yes, come right on him,
We'll take care of you. Unvaccinated guy who gobbled horse goo,
rest in peace. Wheezy you're that's.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh, a line has been crossed. Blah blah blah. These people,
they don't really believe this.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
The only reason they're saying these things is because they
think you, because they know you believe this, and they're
hoping that you're stupid enough to think that these are
the same things. But they're not. Though they're not the
same thing. The guy sucked in his time slot. He
was not performing well for his employer. I think that
because his ratings were worse than that of Colbert's. I

(29:08):
think that Disney and ABC were trying to offload him.
I think they were looking for a way out. There
was a lot of rumors about it for the last
couple of years. This even predates Trump's second election, right,
He's been struggling for a long time. Keep in mind
that Jimmy Kimmel was never the funny one. When he
got started in comedy. He was always the second banana.
It's like an actual He was like the Ed McMahon

(29:28):
Johnny Carson, except Ed McMahon was funny and had some talent.
Jimmy Kimmel's just an oaf who put women on trampolines
and yucked it up over everything. Adam Corolla said he'd
never nobody like if Jimmy Kimmel wasn't on The Man Show,
you had no idea, and nobody watches clearly, as evidenced

(29:48):
by the ratings, nobody.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Watches his show now.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
But the only reason that all of these people on
the left are saying these things is because they know
you value free speech. They themselves don't, and they think
that they get a pass because remember, when you can
call everything a Nazi, when you can call everything fascist,
then you can justify using whatever power you have as
a way to disadvantage your opponent. See, this is all

(30:16):
linked into their rhetoric. And now you have the media
amping up the rhetoric again. They're acting like the First
Amendment is under attack. They are acting like this is
an assault on free speech. Oh my gosh, it's a
constitutional crisis, except for the fact that it was literally
three businesses that chose to make the decision, independent of

(30:40):
the government, and unlike once again, the Biden administration and
the tech companies and the IRS and the Tea Party
and the COVID purposeful disinformation campaign that they were trying
to launch and see that people asking questions were traders,
despite all of the evidence and emails and paperwork that
prove that there is nothing that in any way and

(31:00):
remotely proves their argument that this was from the Trump administration.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
If it was, I'd be one of the first people
to call it out. But it's not. Well. They are Marxists, though.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
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There we go?

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That's too bad. I don't know what happened. Maybe barmaking?
All right, I got a missed video call. Okay, there's
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Just try it again? I keep on messing this up.
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Speaker 3 (34:11):
Okay, So basically I love that the I guess you
you wear the glasses. That's his perspective in the glasses,
and you can answer like your phone and all that.
Who would want to do that? I don't want to
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No, no, thanks, no thank you. I just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
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you had screens floating around everywhere.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
I guess I just thought it would be more like that.
But I don't like the glasses.

Speaker 13 (34:52):
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Speaker 3 (34:52):
You can have all of these, you can do all
of these things, but you have to wear these gout
awful glasses on your head.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Kymor's blue leg glass. This is all right. If they came
in blue light, would you wear them? You will look
at you?

Speaker 9 (35:04):
Would I?

Speaker 5 (35:05):
No, I don't want RF radiation around my head.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Remember Kine answers the phone by putting it down, touching
the button, putting on speaker, and then running all the
way out across the room to.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Shout at the phone. I don't run, I just won
And then he shouts at the phone. He won't, he
won't hold it near his person.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
Makes fun of me. He's not going to change the hysterical.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Though, because you just carried around when you're not on
the phone like you're still getting stuff and signals and
all that with it.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, I'm saying, oh my gosh, those nerd glasses are
not gonna that's not just at least they're better than
their giant goggles where everybody looked like they were getting
ready to go ski, but only on their heads, like
they had to wear those giants. I mean, it looks
nerdy if we have a bunch of people that start
walking around and all of that make bullying great again.
Come on, all right, so coming up the latest, we're

(35:55):
gonna get into some of the FCC stuff because a
lot of people apparently don't understand the authority that Brendan
Carr has.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Also, do you guys remember when Dicky Barrett had to leave.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
He announced Jimmy Kimmel's show for twenty years and he
was forced out because he wouldn't get the injection, you know.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Cancel culture, cancel, But it's canceled culture.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Dana, it's anc fired our Messiah, it's cancel culture.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
It's not though it really isn't.

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Just last week, a great American, Charlie Kirk was hadeously
assassinated for speaking his mind. He was a great young man,
incredible future. Some people said he might be president someday.
I told him, I said, Charlie, I think you have
a good shot someday of being president. And he just
wanted to take care of you. He loved youth. He

(37:58):
was I've never seen anybody relate to you like Charlie,
and they related to him and they're devastated. But I
appreciate the many British citizens who have offered their condolences
and again, Charlie was a great person. We'll be going
out to a service on Sunday. I'll be leaving with
some of the people in this room just to celebrate

(38:20):
Charlie and all that he's done. So incredible, never seen
anything like it.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
I love that he brought that up while he was
at the State Center and that was Potus, who was
there at Windsor Castle last night for their big state banquet,
which they really rolled out the red carpet for Potus
as a way to underscore the close relationship between our countries.
Welcome back to the program. I'm gonna lash. We're at

(38:45):
the top of this second hour coming up. I know
we're going to have Senator Ran Paul and after playing
Jenga with time, I think we're gonna have FCC commission correct. Yeah, okay,
so he just became He's so he's going to be
on at the bottom of this hour.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
We're going to talk to him about some of the
Kimmel's stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
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Speaker 4 (39:11):
I mean we're up at X and Facebook too.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
So I love that he said that, and I love
that he brought this up here because it also highlighted
the problem that the UK is having with free speech
because they arrest people if you hurt their feels. That's
actually something that's happening. Remember the video I thought one
of the most egregious ones. Well, they arrested a comedian
for making a joke on X that actually happened just
a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
But then remember the little.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Girl who was like old was she She was not
even thirteen, she was not a teenager yet. But and
she apparently was on the spectrum, which only matters, and
that her mother said that she just says what she thinks.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
That's her with no filter. And she wasn't being mean to.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
The female police officer that showed up because she had said,
apparently out somewhere, that that officer looked like a lesbian
because she had real short hair. Well, her grandmother apparently's
a lesbian, has very short hair. And that's all she
was doing, was saying that the lady looks like my
grandma basically, And so they were going to come and
arrestles kid.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
I'm not kidding you guys saw the video. We played it.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
My whole point is that the UK has a major
problem with speech and so I love that he brought
that up to show that's the eventual path of censorship
and speech suppression. And I just find it the audacity
of the left to bitch and moan about Jimmy Kimmel
getting himself fired because he's bad at his job and

(40:29):
calling out a free speech armageddon, but not literally a
guy who got shot and killed for his free speech.
That's not armageddon. That is why we are not the same.
You cannot unify with people who think that losing your
life for free speech is completely inconsequential, But losing your
job because you're bad at it and it's your employer's

(40:49):
right is apparently a free speech rubicon that mustn't be crossed.
It is These people are flipping insane. Think about that
for a minute. Ben Stiller even tweeted about it and said, like,
this is bad. Did he say that ever before? Did
he say that with Tucker Carlson? Did he say it
with Gina Carano? Did he say it with Matthew Marsden?

(41:11):
Has he Did he say it with Sidney Sweeney? Did
he say I mean we could do this all day?
Did he say it with Charlie Kirk? No, because it
doesn't matter to them you weren't one of them. It
only counts if you were one of them. They think
that Jimmy Kimmel losing his job is worse than someone
dying over their speech. These people don't care about free speech.

(41:33):
They would be up in arms over Charlie Kirk losing
his life for his But think about that. They value
this progressive Chalks television show more than they do someone's life.
If it saves just one life, we need common sense,
Democrat writer at control. I mean, it's the same formula,

(41:56):
it's the exact same formula. It's just it's stunning. I
want to caution conservatives too. I've seen some people tried
to do this, but not you know, everybody, thankfully. But
I've seen, for instance, some say, well, you know, he

(42:19):
used a hell Diver's code, so he used a game.
I mean gaming, that's not We're not gonna do the
stupid brain rot argument that progressives use. I play Hell Divers.
I'm not very good right now because they just started.
But you know, it's an enjoyable game. You're not gonna
go off and be a psycho, just like all psychos.
All murderers drink water. Does that mean if you drink water,
you're gonna be a murderer. I mean, let's stop with this. This,

(42:41):
this that's the logic that gun controllers use. Oh well,
you know it's the gun that's that's the one that
does the evil. No I think that some people are
just evil and they do certain activities that other people do,
and that doesn't mean the activity is evil as it
relates to the FCC. So we've got Brendan Carr. He's
gonna be joining us. And you realize too that I

(43:04):
don't think that the left understands what the FCC does.

Speaker 8 (43:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
I personally don't think we need one. But that's me
no offense, but uh, I mean I would love it
a lot more. Brendon car went on and said, I
want to abolish my job. I told to you guys
that was very limited government. However, you know he never
called for any of this. He never did. But I

(43:30):
think that some people don't realize, particularly the left, which
is weird to me because they're the ones that really
pushed for all these laws.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
They were the ones who pushed for campaign finance reform.
They are the ones who well, yes, I know McCain fine, golden,
but they were the ones who pushed for all of that.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
They were the ones who pushed for.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
They've been wanting to use Communications Decency Act as a
way to further regulate tech because they're worried about the
effect that free speech with tech has in their ability
to control the narrative. But the FCC they, I mean,
they have a role where there is they are allowed
regulatory authority. That's one of the reasons why I want them.

(44:10):
I don't really like the agency, but that is what
it is, right. I can't really say that I got
a free pass with them. So, but they grant licenses
to people. So for instance, we can say whatever we
want on channel thirty forty seven, and we can say
whatever we want on stream, but we're in the hundreds
of We're on hundreds of different stations around the country.

(44:32):
That's considered public airwaves. So that's considered regulated by the FCC.
So they have to grant licenses to all of these stations, right,
And they have that regulatory authority, and they have the
litmus test. You know, you have to serve public convenience
and interests and necessity. You also have to meet other
specific requirements for it. But I mean, you know, make

(44:54):
up a word statutorily, they do have the regulatory authority
for this, and I think that's something that the left
apparently is not. I don't think that they realize this apparently,
but they have that. So for instance, if I said
what Jimmy Kimmel said, and my employers who air this

(45:17):
show on these stations around the country, if they were
to have they would be well within their right to
have an issue with it. And if they decided to
drop me, that's not the government censoring you. That's these
individual stations not wanting to associate with you. Now, if
the FCC pressured them and said, well, we're going to
we're going to pull your licenses, if well, then that
would be censorship. But there's no evidence at all whatsoever

(45:39):
that that happened here. There is evidence that it happened
tons with the Biden administration. But these sudden free speech
purists were mia over that, which makes me call their
current concern into question. Now that's uh, that's I mean,
it is what it is just tells you everything what
they value, does it not? It tells you everything when

(45:59):
they are more upset over that than anything else.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
I've got a couple of other things to play. Audio
sunbite to six.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Let's play this because ooh boy, this was a lie.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
It's former President Obama.

Speaker 14 (46:13):
Listen, when I was president in the aftermath of tragedies,
when Dylan Rufe went into a black church and based
on his own words.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Shot.

Speaker 14 (46:37):
A group of folks who were engaged in Bible study
and who had invited him in, and according to him,
it was for racist reasons. As President of the United States,

(46:59):
my response was not who may have influenced this troubled
young man to engage in that kind of violence? And
now let me go after my political opponents and use.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
That You called us tea baggers.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
You guys know what that is, right. I once had
to explain it to Bill Maher, and I think he
got mad. That's why he made up that goofy story
about me h and pushed it to the Daily Mail. Yeah,
he called us tea baggers. He said we cling to
our guns and our Bibles. He called us all racists

(47:42):
and bigots. Dylan Roof, by the way, uh that church
uh in the Carolina is Dylan Roof was technically a
prohibited possessor. But James Comey actually had to come out
with the FBI and admit that it was the FBI's
own paperwork error, well actually law enforcement's paperwork error, because
of the confusing way the system was set up in
that state. If you're simply charged with a felony, you

(48:03):
were considered a prohibited possessor until that time you are
adjudicated innocent or guilty, and so technically at that point
he should not have been allowed to purchase a firearm. However,
there was an error because apparently there's a town in
the county with the same name, and someone messed it up,
and the FBI actually had to come out and say
that it was a paperwork error. Yeah, you know that

(48:25):
system that's supposed to work a thousand percent of the time.
There's always room for error whenever humans are involved. That
he was one of the most combative presidents that we had.
He was the guy who said, if they bring a
knife to the fight, we bring a gun verbatim. He's

(48:47):
responsible for the current how far the current tenor has ascended,
so he really doesn't get to pretend to be, you know,
this Kumbaya peacemaker. Afterwards, we have more on the way,
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I love these stories from this website called Sturdy Fans
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(50:46):
fact checked and not verified. I'm just tired of these
stupid clickbait websites. Did you guys hear about this? It
was I think there's more drama in this than there
was necessary. So a plane it did not nearly crash.
This Daily Star headline is absolute stupid press hyperbole because
they said that, oh well, gosh, air Force one almost
literally crashed into another plane as Spirit Airlines plane.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
That's not what happened.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
The air traffic control and this is before when when Potus,
before Potus left for the UK, air traffic Control noticed
that there was another plane eight miles away that, if
it remained on current course, would cross the trajectory of
Air Force one. So while that plane was still eight
literally eight miles away. Air traffic control had them alter
their course. There was no almost crash. I think, like

(51:33):
Daily Star, you are literally the turd in the punch
bowl of like general like intelligent discourse.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Why would you why would you inflame like that?

Speaker 3 (51:41):
It would actually was over eight miles away, and other
people who work in air traffic control and who are
pilots are like, that's that happens actually quite frequently.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
That's not that's not anything to be over dramatic about.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Probably isn't the first time that this has happened with
air Force one, because there have been instances where they
can change trajectory because of other et cetera, and air
traffic control has to then for any plane that might
you know, run across that flight path, they have to alter.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
So it's not I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
The drama is ridiculous, but anything for a click, right, gosh,
I hate the society.

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I know so I said seven hundred million. So they
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off the logo and then make everything millennial gray. Did

(52:41):
Megan Markle advise them, because that's the only kind of
like Sepuku of a brand that I could see like
that would give advice just like that. Speaking of Sepaku,
Japan sets a record nearly one hundred thousand people aged
over one hundred. Their population is aging to where there
are more older people than younger people. They also have

(53:03):
the world's longest life expectancy and it's the fastest aging society.
Residents have a low birth rate, but they have a
healthier diet and a lot of some of the oldest
people in the world are Japanese.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
It's very interesting.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
But they said that they have changed more than any
other G seven country remarkably since the sixties in terms
of the age of their population, their birth rate, et cetera.
And they said that they have I mean heart disease, cancers,
I mean different types of cancers. They have such a
higher life expectancy because they have fewer deaths from those.

(53:38):
So it's very interesting but aging population as well. Washington
State has the highest gas prices in the country, surpassing
even that of California.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Washington state is first in something.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
They're holding the highest gas price in the country for
sixty six jeez, four dollars and sixty six cents. They've
overtaken California, who's always number one, but I mean barely.
So California is four sixty four, they're four sixty six,
so it's like two cents coming up. FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr,
why did he take Jimmy Kimmel off air?

Speaker 8 (54:10):
Though?

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Stay with us?

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Speaker 3 (55:37):
Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. We're
at the bottom of this second hour. I wanted to
I got some audio that I wanted to play really
quick before we bring on the FCC commissioner. In fact,
actually I'll probably just bring him on.

Speaker 12 (55:50):
Now.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Everybody knows FCC Commissioner Brenton Carr. He was kind of
like the lone voice of reason during the Biden administration.
He was there when the Biden administration was weaponizing government
agent and putting pressure on tech companies and doing all
of this. Now Cars being accused, I mean quite literally
of getting Jimmy Kimmel fired like he personally did it.
And I wanted to play this audio. Can we just

(56:12):
pulled this? What network is this from?

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Baby c Yeah? ABC.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
I wanted to play this for Car and have him
respond to this. This was just a little bit ago.

Speaker 15 (56:21):
Listen, a spokesperson for the network saying, Jimmy Kimmel Live
will be preempted indefinitely. President Trump now calling Carr's decision
to cancel Kimmel quote great news for America, turning his
attention to late night host Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers
on NBC, the President writing that leaves Jimmy and Seth
adding do it.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
NBC.

Speaker 15 (56:42):
An immediate response from leading Democrats, from Senator Chuck Schumer
to California Governor Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
So they were saying that Carr himself did it. The
chairman of the Federal Communications Commission Print and Carr now
joins us via video. Mister chairman, it's good to see you.
I just to get your response to this. So apparently
you called up ABC and Next Star in Sinclair and
you personally put pressure on them to get Jimmy Kimmel fired.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
Is that true?

Speaker 11 (57:09):
No, not at all, but it does, I guess tell
a better story for partisans on the left. I think
it's ironic. I mean, some of these very same people
are engaged, and I think we can only explained is projection.
These are the same officials that literally we're doing exactly that.
What's happening here is we're undergoing a very fundamental shift
in the dynamics in the media ECOSYSM. Most people don't

(57:31):
get this right, but you've got national programmers. That's Disney, ABC,
that's Comcast NBC. They don't have SEC licenses and they
therefore don't have a federal obligation to operate in the
public interest, but they produce most of the primetime TV
shows that you do see on broadcast TV, whether it's
sixty Minutes or NFL Football or late night shows. Now,

(57:52):
local broadcast TV stations like your local Channel seven wherever
you are. They are licensed by the FCC, and they
begin a unique opportunity to use public spectrum, this public resource,
and because of that, they have a public interest obligation.
So the way this is supposed to work is Disney
and Comcast can come up with whatever programming they want,
and individual TV stations are supposed to decide should we

(58:16):
run this or should we not. Now that's what Congress intended,
but the last ten, fifteen, twenty years that hasn't happened
because Comcasts and Disney and the programmers have asked so
much power that they could effectively force local TV stations
in Utah, in Pennsylvania to run this progressive foua gras
coming out of New York and Hollywood. And what we
saw yesterday was really a pivot point because it was

(58:39):
the local TV stations that said, I've got to look
out for the needs of my local community. I don't
want to run this Kimmel stuff, and we're going to
preempt it. And that's a really important moment of local
TV stations standing up for their viewers and pushing back
against comcasts in Disney. So it's a market correction that's
really necessary. But people don't want to grapple with that, right.

(59:00):
They want to try to point fingers or try to
find boogeyman. But that's really what's going on here.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Yeah, I think you bring up an interesting point. We're
talking to the chairman of the FCC, Brendan Carr, if
you're just joining us because sint Clair, I think a
lot of people forget sint Clair. I wouldn't say they're
hardcore conservative, but they're definitely not left leaning. So it
didn't surprise me to see Saint Clair review of the
content and say, well, we don't really like a guy
going on late night television telling everyone making up false,

(59:26):
maliciously false, and already at that point disproven claims about
the nature of the killer. That seems kind of completely
ridiculous and unnecessary. And they responded to that. So that
sounds like a Kimmel problem, not a Brendan Carr problem.

Speaker 11 (59:41):
Yeah, I think that's exactly right. I mean, to some extent,
I do think this goes back to President Trump, because
when President Trump won the election, he sort of smashed
the facade that we just have to accept what New
York and Hollywood say is appropriate, is funny and it's effective.
Emperor has no closed type of a moment. And what

(01:00:03):
comes down to now is ratings. How popular is Kimmel
in these local markets. And I've seen these bar charts
recently and it's just like an absolute nose dive in
terms of ratings. We know from Colbert that paramount indicated
that he's losing them, was losing them fifty million dollars
a year. So why were they running it at these
local stations? And I think it's because they felt like

(01:00:23):
they couldn't exercise their right to respond to the needs
of their local community. And again, late night shows have
undergone a pretty serious transformation over the last ten years
or so. It used to be that you would go
for laugh lines, and now they're going for applause lines.
They've gone from these court gestures that make fun of everybody,
like go for it, make fun of Republicans and democrats. It's,

(01:00:45):
you know, that's part of what makes for democracy. But
instead of doing that, they became court clerics enforcing a
very narrow ideology. And the ratings are telling them it's
not working. So you can blame other people, but ultimately it's,
you know, it's the scoreboard.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
I wanted to ask you too.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Apparently now you have Democrat leadership that are they're demanding
that you're stepping that you should step down. Well, what
are your thoughts to because I mean, if we're going
to have a question of sensor a discussion of censorship,
that seems pretty sensory. If you have Democrat leaders that
are now they're looking at the FCC, I mean I
got to say I would thought their attention would go

(01:01:19):
to the FCC back when they were pressuring tech companies
to deplatform conservatives for questioning the laptop or the efficacy
of an injection. But now they apparently want you to
step down because of what private companies have done.

Speaker 11 (01:01:31):
Yeah, my team tells me I need to stop responding
with so many memes, but I can't help but get
out of my head. You know I'm not going anywhere line.
You know, we got an important job to do here.
And what I've said from day one is we are
read invigorating the public interest standard. And if you want
to have a podcast, if you want to have a
cable show, if you don't want that public interest obligation,

(01:01:52):
have at it right, total free market. You can say
whatever disgusting thing you want, but if you're going to
be on broadcasts, that's simply different. You have to comply
with the public interest obligations. And so we're doing that.
But again, we're running other agendas as well. We have
a build America agenda here. We're trying to get infrastructure
going again. I mean, people can famously remember when Biden

(01:02:15):
and Harris were in charge of this forty two billion
dollar internet infrastructure program. They couldn't get a single shove.
It was worth a dirt turn. We're turning that program around,
frankly thanks to Secretary Lutnik and the work that he's
doing over there. So we're doing a lot. But yeah,
we're reading biggering the public interest.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
I just want to I want to read you thistate.
You might not have seen it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
It's from Axios because it just came out just a
little bit ago, but they said it's signed by the
House Minority Whip Catherine Clarke. You have the Democrat Caucus,
Charipede Aguilar, Ted lou a couple of Colorado Democrats, one
out of Washington, and they said that quote Brendan Carr,
the so called chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, is
engaged in the corrupt abuse of power. He's disgraced the

(01:02:51):
office he holds by bullying ABC, the employer of Jimmy Kimmel,
and forcing the company to bend the need to the
Trump administration. FCC chair Brendan Cars should resign immediately. My
question is, first off, what would you tell them? Secondly,
I know that you're not going anywhere, but this seems
I mean, they're really they're really coming for you.

Speaker 8 (01:03:11):
Now.

Speaker 11 (01:03:13):
Well, look, I don't know, so called Stacy chair. That
sounds kind of like insurrectionally to me. Like, you know,
President Trump won, President Trump designated Media's chair, I'm the chairman.
I mean, you can call whatever names you want. I
really don't care. But you know, we're here and we're
going to carry out the agenda that we think serves
the best interests of the American people. And frankly, we
have been long overdue for a course correction. The trust

(01:03:35):
in national media, again, these legacy national media broadcasters, is
at an absolute all time low. But again it's it's
just a piece of a broader story. We look at
Washington Posts with what Jeff Bezos has been trying to
do over there in terms of reorienting the direction of
that paper. It's across the entire media ecosystem that you're
seeing change, So I think it's a good direction, but

(01:03:58):
there's more to come, right, this is not the end
of the dynamics in the fallout from the changes we're seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
And clearly there is a difference too, between somebody making
maybe a distasteful joke or saying something or making a
joke about that someone doesn't agree with, and maybe going
out on air and claiming that this particular killer is
you know, one of you maga and making these false
act making these false statements. I mean, you know, I

(01:04:25):
realized that that might come down to opinion for some
as well, but there seems to be a clear difference,
and I companies have the right to react to that.
That's not a First Amendment issue.

Speaker 11 (01:04:37):
Your thoughts, Yeah, exactly, exactly right. And again there's many
ways to slice this. You can again look at the
national programmers, look at the local TV stations, including Next Star,
which is one of the first to push back on it,
and their own journalists that they have. But this is
a decision by Next Star that owns local TV stations
to tell Comcast, you know, we don't want to or
in this case Disney, we don't want to run that

(01:04:59):
type of programming. So this is about you know, Next
Star in Sinclair versus Disney, and that's you know, ultimately
a business decision. And these are market forces. Again, we
have rules on our books at the FCC that says
local stations have to have the right right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
You have regular the regulatory authority to do that. And
and and so you've you've never called ABC. I don't
even think you can legally. You never called ABC. You
never called Sinclair, you never called Next Star. You never
said you got to get rid of Jimmy Kimmel or
the FCC is going to come down on you and
look at your licenses, Sinclair, or look at your licenses
Next Star.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
That never happened.

Speaker 11 (01:05:33):
We never told anybody that they had to get rid
of Kimmell. Frankly, I was surprised to see that Disney
took that step. I was pleased when I saw Nexttar
do it, when Sinclair did it. When I saw the
news of Kimmel getting suspended by Disney, at first I
thought maybe people were just misreporting on the Next Star
piece of it. And so we'll see where it goes
from here.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Yeah, we'll see where it goes from here. From here, surely,
and I feel like this, you know this argument's going
to rage more. One last quick thing, because you were
there at the FCC and you saw the tech companies,
you saw the suppression with the laptop. Where was their
concern for free speech?

Speaker 13 (01:06:08):
Then?

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Did you ever have any of these democrats reach out
to you and ask what was going on and why
was the Biden administration suppressing conservatives?

Speaker 11 (01:06:15):
No, it was quite the opposite. Mean, look, you had
Democrats in Congress, probably including some of their outrage right now,
they wrote to cable companies like Comcasts and Charter and said, effectively,
why are you not dropping Fox News in On and Newsmax.
You had an FCC under Biden's leadership that took a
local Fox broadcast not Fox News, Fox broadcast channel and

(01:06:36):
hung them out there with their license renewal for over
eighteen months, all the way through the election. Nobody said
a peep. The FCC operates by case law, by common law,
by precedent, and we're just going to continue to apply
the precedent that's been set over the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
We go FCC Chairman Commissioner Brendan Carr. Always appreciate your time.
Thanks so much for clarifying all the all of this
fake news for us.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 11 (01:07:00):
Less great to be with you.

Speaker 13 (01:07:01):
Thanks you too.

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Worst dead ever. Guys, a Florida man. Of course, he's
got a ponytail. No, like a top knot.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Not a ponytail like a man can wear a ponytail,
but a topknot. No, he's accused of hurling his fence. Sorry,
hurling his kids over the fence after he wrecked his car.
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fence himself, and a neighbor reported that the kids were crying.
Again topknot. Does it surprise you mister topknot would do this? No,
not at all. So he was arrested on three charges

(01:08:54):
of child neglect and cruelty. They have not disclosed his
relationship to the kids, So I mean, are they his unk?

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
What are you doing?

Speaker 13 (01:09:01):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
Are they his kids?

Speaker 15 (01:09:02):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
What's happening. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
So that's those poor children they were given to, uh,
taken into custody of family, So think heavens. We talked
about the sea turtle guy, but I do want to
talk about this jeep driver. Okay, So the jeep drivers,
they have a whole culture. I had a jeep, so
I know those and I didn't realize until because people

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bizarrely wave at you and You're like, why are you
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people are kind. It's that horrible, and I'm like, why
are you waving? And then they leave ducks on your jeeps.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
What do they call it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Cane you get like they give you the duck on
the jeep They duck you or something. Yeah, people buy
these bags of these things anyway. So the reason I
sail this is because they seem like nice, friendly people, right,
Like they got their jeep wave.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
That's a whole culture.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Well, one jeep driver chased down and shot his childhood
friend after he saw him on a motorcycle and then
he texted him, texted him when's a good time to
come over?

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Oh this dude is crazy eyes. Oh completely look look
at his eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Those are crazy eyes, just like a chick cans dudes.
Florida man he saw his childhood friend test driving a
motorcycle and decided to chase after him, fired a gun
at the guy, tried to run him off the road
with his jeep. Oh hit a jeep chaircase, that's technically
not like the Wrangler sort. He then texted the victim
after and said when's a good time to come over.
Twenty three year old Isaiah MacDonald charged with the aggravated
assault with the deadly weapon, discharging a weapon into an
occupied vehicle, discharging a fire him from a vehicle, in

(01:10:26):
drug possession after they found heroin and all kinds of
stuff inside his jeep following the incident. It wound up
being the victim's mother who tracked him down after the
event happened. She decided to go look for the vehicle
at where she knows he lives and then she called
the cops. So lake Kuniye sheriff said. They responded to
the call and they noticed he noticed that the guy
was his friend, was staying on his tail and being

(01:10:46):
very aggressive. What kind of psycho does that? What in
the world? So, yeah, this guy's going to ja. He
looks crazy though. I mean when you see his crazy eyes.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
You're like, oh, it's always in the eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Yeahmpletely is always in the eyes. Absolutely. I have to
Can I touch on, by the way, the Florida Very
Florida discussion we had with Lieutenant Governor j Collins yesterday
because we put a clip out where we asked, does
every person in Florida have a machete?

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
You guys?

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
I literally like laughed. I actually did laugh. It wasn't
I didn't lie about loling. Oh my gosh, your comments
were hysterical. Someone's like, a three machetes, and then I
think I have a couple more that I lost somewhere
on my property.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
That's what Jeff says.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
He goes when you drive into Florida as a newcomer,
they give you a machete at the Agricultural Products and
Specs and Inspection station. On I seventy five and I
ninety five, someone said, I have two machetes by the bed.
I used them to hide the guns between them. That's hysterical.
Someone said, have you seen the palmetto bugs? Everybody was like, yeah,

(01:11:58):
I've got one or two machetes. Woman, I have a machete.
Oh my gosh, it's hysterical. And they, I mean literally everybody, everybody, everybody.
Someone said I got a smaller one when I moved
to the villages.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
There you go. It's a villager, I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Someone said, uh, yes, I have one and I need
to get a new one. I mean they are everywhere.
And then they talk about what they use them for. Well,
we use them to cut weeds. We use them for
we use them to hack down weeds. What do you
chop a dead banana? Try with how do you kill
a water moccasin? I don't get close enough to a
water moccasin to hack it to death with a machete, though.
That is that's a new level of Florida badass right there.

(01:12:39):
People are just like America's Australians. God love you, but
but yeah. I was cracking up at the comments on
this they whether it was on Insta or Facebook or x.
And then some of you were emailing where you get
your machetes from in Florida. Apparently there's like some play.
I just thought, oh, you know, get a machete. No, no, no,
some some are better than others, and some stores are

(01:12:59):
butter than others. They're very particular Kane about the machetes.
I did not realize that was such a thing. Hundreds
of comments on this and everyone's like, oh, yeah, we
have them, stay with us. We have third hour on
the way.

Speaker 13 (01:13:12):
Does the covid vaccine prevent transmission?

Speaker 11 (01:13:16):
The covid vaccine can reduce viral load and individuals who are.

Speaker 13 (01:13:20):
Does it prevent transmission?

Speaker 15 (01:13:22):
When you have reduced viral load, you will have reduced transmission.

Speaker 13 (01:13:27):
But in other words, it doesn't prevent transmission. You can
still transmit the virus if you've had the vaccine. In fact,
there's been reduced ability to interfere with transmission over time,
and what we've found is the most recent one since
Omicron is down around sixteen percent reduction. If there is
a reduction.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
This was from the hearing that took place with the
former director of the CDC, Susan Monez, and it was
so satisfying to hear them finally confirm that because they've
they've to that in so many different interviews in the
years prior. Oh yes, it didn't actually prevent the transmission
of the virus. We're still finding out just how deep

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this betrayal goes. Joining us right now on video is
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Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
It's good to see you, Senator.

Speaker 13 (01:14:18):
I thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Of course, I was not surprised by her answer, However,
it was the smugness with which she delivered it, as
though that was just enough, and that should satisfy the
scientific requirements of being able to say that it reduces transmission.

Speaker 8 (01:14:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:14:34):
Her next response was even worse, delivered with this smarmy smile.
And I said, does the vaccine reduce hospitalization for children?
And her response was it can. That's not even a response,
either does or doesn't. We've done the studies, and what
we found is that so few children were going to
the hospital that they couldn't find anything that reduced hospitalization

(01:14:56):
because hospitalization was already close to zero with deaths. But
even harder, there were so few deaths under eighteen. Most
of those kids were seriously sick with other diseases. They
could not prove that the vaccine lowered the death rate
because the death rate was already point zero zero, zero
two percent. It was so tiny they couldn't prove anything

(01:15:17):
reduced it. But when she says, oh, it can reduce
the death rate. She's being dishonest, and she knew she
was being dishonest in the moment. But it gets to
the whole point of why Secretary Kennedy asked her to
fire people. He asked her to fire people that were
resisting looking at the evidence for whether your child needs
a COVID vaccine in six months. This wasn't a debate

(01:15:40):
over whether all vaccines are good or all vaccines are bad.
It was about specific recommendations for the COVID vaccine and
also for the hepatitis B vaccine. That was the other
question I asked her, Is there a medical reason to
give a newborn a hepatitis B vaccine if the mom
doesn't have appatitis? The answer is unequivocally know there was

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no reason. The reason they give your kid a hep
BE vaccine in the hospital is they've got a hold
of you and they think they can get you more
easily to submit because you've gone through the emotions of childbirth.
You like your doctor, Your doctors help you with the delivery,
and you're like, oh what whatever, doctor, and you do it.
It's about submission and it's about compliance. But it's never

(01:16:23):
been about science.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
And that's absolutely terrifying because we saw how not having
those answers. I mean, we had, you know, this worldwide
pandemic and the whole globe went crazy, and it irrevocably
changed everything. You know, all these years since we're talking
with Senator Rand Paul, who was grilling the former CDC director,
what was the most shocking thing to you? Because I overall,
and I was watching what I could on c SPAN,

(01:16:45):
and I was watching certain clips, But the big question
that I kept walking away with was, now that we
have this clarification and we have this insight, how is
that going to change the next pandemic or the next
big thing.

Speaker 13 (01:17:00):
Well, I don't think we're really penetrating the consciousness of
the Democrat side. The Democrat side came forward as if
they were at a religious revival for vaccines, and they said,
do you believe I believe they all believe in vaccines.
And it's like, well, that's not a scientific discussion. Let's
discuss what are the risks and benefits. See, this is

(01:17:20):
the thing with the COVID vaccine. Four children that can't
prove a reduction in hospitalization or death because it was
so infrequent as to be almost zero. But then there
is another half to that. Are there any risks to
the vaccine? Now, I admit, and I'm not trying to
promote that the risks are enormous, but the risks are
about between six and eight out of ten thousand. Get

(01:17:44):
a significant inflammation of the heart, which can lead to
profound medical problems. You present the emergency room with chest
pain and elevated cardiac enzymes like a heart attack. It's
not a heart attack, but you actually present as a
child like a heart attack. That happens six to eight
times out of ten thousand. So you have to compare

(01:18:05):
that to how many What is your chance of your
child going to the hospital. It's way less than that.
It may be one in a million, it might be
zero of going to the hospital or dying, particularly of
dying because death was very rare when the virus was
very strong in twenty twenty twenty twenty one. Since then,
the virus has mutated to be less strong, and our

(01:18:28):
immunity has increased as we've gotten COVID several times. So
right now we really should be restudying all these It
shouldn't be Oh, the COVID vaccine was good in twenty twenty.
It has to be restudied now because people have had
a couple of vaccines, have had COVID a couple of times,
and the virus is less virulent, it's less deadly, So

(01:18:49):
you would have to ask the same question now if
you're elderly. Does it reduce hospitalization or death now, not
whether it did it in twenty twenty. That's why all
vaccines need to be continuously examined for their efficacy. But
the other side wants you just believe in it. Believe
in it, but it also increases profits for big corporations,

(01:19:10):
the first pharmaceutical companies. Someone needs to be acknowledging that
this is not you know, they're not given this stuff away.
They received billions of dollars and it's promoted by the
government putting it in the childhood vaccine schedule, which then
you can't go to the school, so it's essentially becomes mandatory,
and pharmaceutical companies get rich. We should ask does it

(01:19:30):
really work? Does it work still this year before we
enrich the pharmaceutical companies.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
That's the million dollar question. And I loved your line
of questioning. By the way, during this hearing we're talking
with Senator Ran Paul. You also tweeted Senator that you
and this was yesterday you introduced the only real plan
to balance the budget. Five months ago you said they
claimed spending would be six trillion. Now it's already blown
past six point six trillion. Republicans are charging ahead with

(01:19:56):
a new spending bill, and we were telling everybody our
funding bill time that this happened. We're going to be
dealing with us again and fall, and then we'll be
dealing with it again after Christmas. Talk to us a
little bit about this, because I mean, I thought we
were supposed to be reducing government spending and draining the swamp,
and are we being completely honest about what we're doing
here with that?

Speaker 13 (01:20:16):
There's probably nothing worse in politics than hypocrisy. During the election,
the last presidential election, we heard about Biden inflation, Biden domics,
and Biden deficit spending. They were all true. In December
of last year, when the Democrats were still in charge,
all the Republicans voted no. They said we're against the
Biden spending levels. So three months later in March, Republicans

(01:20:39):
are in charge of the legislature and the White House,
the spending levels were kept the same. What does that mean?
That means Republicans were reaffirming and voting for Biden's spending levels.
They're voting for Biden domics, They're voting for biden flation.
We're now six months later, it's at the end of
the fiscal year, and they're saying, well, the best we

(01:20:59):
can do is just continue the same spending levels. Well,
what spending levels are those? The Biden spending levels, and
what do they lead to? A two trillion dollar deficit
this year which ends in about a week. They'll add
up all the numbers, how much came in, how much
went out, and the deficit will be about two trillion. Well,
if you continue at this rate, what are the projections

(01:21:21):
for next year? Two point one trillion. So this is
the frustrating thing, and people are at home or pulling
their hair out, saying what is the difference? Republicans talk
a good game and then they get in power and
the deficits continue unabated. So someone has to say it
like it is and declare it. The emperor has no

(01:21:42):
close the deficit, and the debt is now owned by
Republicans and they're equally as complicit as the Democrats. We
have to do something better. But we're losing even the
remnant of the conservatives we once had who would vote
against spending bills. They're all lining up, patting each other
on the back, and they're all going to vote for
the same spending levels they all condemned when.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
They were under Biden completely And we're going to have
to deal with us going into a twenty twenty eight
election when a lot of those tax cuts expire, and
then there's going to be it's going to be harder
for Republicans to push back against Democrats claims that they
have to increase taxes in order to pay off what
Republicans didn't want to cut in spending.

Speaker 13 (01:22:16):
Yeah, and the way I've looked at it all along
is the best way to balance your budget is to
cut a little bit of everything. Don't just pick out
the program that the liberals like, don't just pick out
the program the conservatives like. Just go across the board
and do a little bit of everything. And I've tried
this message out many time on people who come to
me and they want something from government. And the example

(01:22:37):
I use a lot of times is the families for
Alzheimer's research. We have Alzheimer's in my family, my wife's family,
almost every family you know has some of it. And
they want research money. And I look at them and
I say, well, we're two trillion dollars short, but we're
a rich country. We can afford some Alzheimer's research. You've
got one hundred million last year. Could you guys get
ninety four million? And to a person, these people are

(01:23:00):
in charge, they looked at this and they say, well,
of course we could. If it's good for the country.
We could have a little bit less research money than
we had last year. If you just told everybody that,
I think people actually would go along with it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
That's a great response that I haven't heard it put
that way, And that makes all the sense in the world,
it really does. Senator rampaul I so appreciate your fight.
I appreciate your I appreciate your transparency and all of this.
We'd love to have you back as well as the
spending as the funding bill progresses, because you seem to
be kind of a lone voice in.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
The wilderness on this at times. It's good to see you. God,
bless you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
We have more to come, folks, because we have headlines
on the way, and we're also going to have all
of the latest with the the story that we've been
talking about for a week and a half now, the
assassination of Charlie Kirk, and then of course we have
the free speech issue with Jimmy Kimmel. We're also going
to get into, as we were just talking about with
Senator Paul that spending budget that they're fighting about right
now in Congress. We also have to get into well

(01:23:59):
a few other things too. We've got some culture, we've
got some immigration, a lot of stuff to touch on.
And then coming up at the bottom of this hour,
my friend Alex Clark, who I don't know if she's
ever been on the show before. I don't think she's
been on the show before. I've been friends with her
for a long time. I've known of her for a
long time. When she first got started, she worked with TPUSA,
she knew Charlie really well.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
Charlie recruited her to do like a political.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
Kind of like podcast, but it was very short and
she just did them weekly and it was on Instagram
as well.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
And now she's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
The Culture Apothecary and she's going to join us to
talk about her beginnings getting started and working with Charlie
and TPUSA.

Speaker 5 (01:24:41):

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
I need this year to not be doing this to
us right now. I needed to not be doing this.
Dolly parton Sparks health concerns after canceling an appearance. I
need it to not just stop it right now.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
Fate or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
She said, She's been dealing, just dealing with some hell stuff,
but she had to cancel a couple of appearances.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
According to I think this was Daily Mail. They haven't
heard back from her reps yet, but they will keep
an eye on it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
But she's not like, you know, she's I mean, she's
just like she's doing videos and all that. The other day,
the new South Park episode was supposed to be out
last night, but Matt Stun and Trey Parker said that
they couldn't because of a time crunch, which I don't
ever remember that happening. People were like, oh, they were
always procrastinators. I've watched South Park since inception that this
has never happened, So I was I'm hoping that it's

(01:25:36):
not because they pulled an episode because they were getting
ready to mock so they could or they were getting
ready to mock the death of Kirk. Although Kirk liked
the he the satire that they did. He did a
video laughing about it and then he used it literally
as his avatar on socials, so he thought it was funny.
But I'm just wondering why they've never done this. So

(01:25:59):
I'm you know, we'll watch out for that one. Let's
see people are I don't know. A circle K clerk
was having a bad day, so he killed an off
duty officer buying a hot dog.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
The circle K clerk, Eduardo Machado, confessed to shooting and
killing off duty Edgewater police officer David Jewel.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
Just a Monday of this week.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Machado said he was having a bad day.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
That's all. You were having a bad day. Guess whose
day got worse the off duty officer that you killed.
He said that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Machado, who's twenty four, told police he had previously seen
forty five.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
Year old Jewel Old Jewel in the store with a
firearm and he was afraid of him.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
He didn't state if he knew that Jewel was a
well known police officer or not, but authority said the
family members confirmed that Machado was diagnosed with a mental
health disorder in the past, and he had indicated that
he was hearing voices.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
So there you go. Just awful, just awfulness.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
But yeah, he killed He apparently got when he got
his firearm illegally. Apparently he did that with the think
the sole purpose in mind of killing Joel. According to investigators,
let's see a T and t's new tool uses AI
to screen calls and block spammers. So that means they're
listening to you. You might think, oh, that's great that
they did that. That means they're listening to you all

(01:27:22):
the time without you ever knowing. Imagine everything that you
say recorded and used in a data bit, put in
a database somewhere simply because your phone was by you
and overheard you.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
Why are you saying, oh, four.

Speaker 5 (01:27:35):
I'd rather not get into it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Oh, pretty much everything I say privately is publicly with
The only thing is the editing of certain phrases to
not get us in trouble with the FCC. That's it,
you know, because they're just apparently such big fascists. According
to the left, Let's see, what is this article. They're
saying ages and everything when deciding if a child is
ready to be home alone. Well, it's actually a big

(01:27:58):
part of it. Number of states, it's actually a low.
I think in Missouri you have to be twelve years
and up. I don't know what it is in Texas,
but now there's a handful of states that have set
age minimums. So in Maryland it's a crime to leave
a child younger than eight years alone unattended. Well yeah, duh,
but they I can't believe people have to be told
consider maturity in age. You're not parenting if you don't

(01:28:21):
know all of these things. Sorry, but this is kind
of ridiculous. Coming up host of Culture Apothecary Alex Clark.
She's also with TPUSA.

Speaker 7 (01:28:29):
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Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
I thought that Torri Amos's Cornflake Girl was the perfect
bumper track for coming into this segment.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
Welcome back.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
It's your gen X little Dissatisfied Daria Dana Lash. You
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My next guest is someone who I struck.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
When did I? I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
I was actually asking my husband, I'm like, when was
the first time I sent you one of her videos?

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
We were actually going back, like way back in our texts.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
Like she was brand new and she started with TPUSA
and she did a podcast about really like culture and humor,
and it tied politics into it, but it wasn't overly
politically driven. But she was hysterical. I thought she had
like the comedic timing of Joan Rivers. And you guys
know that Joan Rivers is a goddess and she was

(01:29:35):
my favorite female comedian to ever grace this rock crowd
rest Hesal. So I thought she's hysterical. Her timing is
like like very Joan Rivers esque. I'm like, I've never
seen that in anybody who's you know, if she's a
comedian a commentator, I haven't seen that in any other female.
That's like really something. And her stuff was just hysterical.
And then she since grown. She speaks all over the country.

(01:29:58):
She does all of this amazing stuff. She she's you know,
got started with Charlie Kirk and TPUSA and now she
has Culture Apothecary as well. You can follow her on
x on Facebook, Instagram. She's a host of Culture Apothecary
Alex Clark also at TPUSA.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
Alex, God love you. You always look.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Amazing And I just want to say we have been
praying for you and for with everybody at TPUSA, Erica,
their kids, Charlie's family. This this is like your generation's
JFK moment. I think it's kind of like how Andrew
Breitbart was ours, but this is so much more severe,

(01:30:34):
so much different, and I you know, we've just been
lifting you up because it's not easy being young and
being in the public and having to navigate this stuff
all at the same time, and you've been doing it gracefully.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
So God bless you. I just wanted to tell you.

Speaker 12 (01:30:47):
That, Thank you, Dana. It means so much.

Speaker 16 (01:30:51):
And I just absolutely love you and Chris and Kine
and you know, I'm the longest fan of yours. When
I first got hired at turning Point, you would say
Charlie and Tyler boy are at the time asked me.
They said, Alex, who are the women that you look
up to in the movement? And you were the first
name that I said. So, it's just surreal to be
on your show right now talking about what we're talking

(01:31:11):
about exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
And I saw the notice just earlier today, actually right
when we got started that the board over at TPOSA
they voted Erica Kirk as the new CEO and chair
of the board, and they said, that's that's what Charlie
had intended.

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
I have only met her briefly a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
I met her the longest, actually, just this last time
in Dallas when I saw you and her and Charlie
came out the Young Women's Leadership summit and they spoke
and she was just so sweet and so friendly. But
what I really liked about her, in addition to her joyfulness,
was she was very assured of herself and confident in
what she believed in and her faith. And that when

(01:31:48):
you're married to somebody like Charlie, to be able to
go out and share that presence is a tough thing.
So when I saw that this announcement came, it didn't
surprise me at all. You know, her though, you've you know,
you kind of grew up with What do you think
about all of it?

Speaker 8 (01:32:02):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:32:02):
Well, there is just there couldn't be a better choice
than Erica. And you know, she didn't want this, She
didn't plan for this. This was never her goal to
be CEO of Turning Point, you to say, right, that
was always supposed to be Charlie.

Speaker 12 (01:32:15):
She loves being a stay at home mom. She loves
her two children.

Speaker 16 (01:32:18):
You know, they even kept their pregnancies a secret so
that she could just really really soak up that time.
And I really feel like, looking back, that was totally
intentional that they did everything that way. God knew that
that was going to be the right thing for them
to just enjoy each other in those moments with the
small amount of time that she was going to have
with Charlie. And now she's ready to step in the
role because it makes sense that the only person that

(01:32:41):
could possibly take over and run this place in the
best honor to Charlie Kirk would be his wife, who
knew him better than anybody else. You know, knew his intentions,
knew his ultimate goals, his secrets, and so I can't
wait to see what she does. I know that being
a mother matters more to her than any anything else though,
So I don't anticipate that she's going to be in

(01:33:03):
the office every single day, you know, one on moment employees.
I think it's probably going to be like more like
bigger picture meetings and things like that, and then we
have you know, tons of directors, other C level employees
and managers that will probably do the more day to
day stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
Yeah, that makes total sense.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
And because they were very family first, you get to
see their whole courtship and everything from the beginning. And
I was watching a video, but well I heard them
talking about it at the event as well. I love
the dynamic that they have, and I feel like younger
generations are starting to go back and recognize the importance
of having that helpmate and the importance of strong families

(01:33:39):
and the stuff that you talk about as well in
your show Culture Apothecary. And you know that you and
TPUSA and everybody, I think get a lot of credit
for fomenting that, and there there weren't a lot of examples,
you know, as your generation was growing up, because you
guys were so young, you're just you know, graduating college
or getting out of high school, and this was kind
of like the first It was like the first big
cup for that generation. So everybody knew who they were.

(01:34:03):
Everybody in this movement knew who they were. Talk about
the impact that you've seen that have, because you see
all of these young women and all of these young
men all across the country.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
You travel more than I do. Tell me what you've seen.

Speaker 16 (01:34:16):
Okay, Well, first I want to say something interesting, which
is that Turning Point USA actually has more female directors
in our departments than male. So you have a lot
of high level women working at Turning Point USA. A
conservative company, And when Charlie met Erica, I mean obviously
believing in family and supporting the idea of a nuclear
family was always top of mind for Charlie, But until

(01:34:37):
he had his own I don't think that he really
even grasped that.

Speaker 12 (01:34:42):
You know, totally.

Speaker 16 (01:34:43):
And once he married Erica and having his own children,
I just think that his heart even softened more towards
the women in this company. And right before he died, Dana,
like a couple days before his death, it was announced
that he was giving the women at Turning Point USA
six months.

Speaker 12 (01:34:58):
Paid maternity li there.

Speaker 16 (01:35:01):
I don't even know a progressive company that gives that
to their female employees.

Speaker 12 (01:35:05):
And Charlie Kirk was going to be doing that for us.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
Wow, and without the government forcing forcing him to do it,
because he just wanted to. I mean, that's that's what
it's all about. Are you, because I know you do
a lot of events and you speak a lot. Are
you worried now about safety? Are you worried about your
well being when you when you go to do your
next event?

Speaker 13 (01:35:26):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:35:27):
Yeah, next time, I'm coming to Texas and I've got
some time to spare. I'm linking up with you, and
I need you to teach me my whole way around
a firearm, because yeah, it was that was one of
the first immediate thoughts of mine. And now my new
normal is that every single time I speak, I have
to have to arm security with me driving me to
and from and everywhere I go. And I said, is

(01:35:49):
this temporary or is this the new normal? And I
was told it is the new normal. And that is because,
as Don Junior so perfectly said, the bullets are.

Speaker 12 (01:35:58):
Only going one way. It's one way.

Speaker 16 (01:36:02):
And I don't know leftist organizations that are having to
go through all of these hoops or you know, dealing
with this like conservative organizations are, and it's just absolutely
terrifying and it's sad, but it just motivates us that
that shows how much work really has to be done here.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
That is, and that that makes me so angry for you,
because you that should not have to be new normal.
It should not have to be the new normal for anyone.
I was talking to a friend, I mean, we actually
just turned something down because it was outside, uh, And
I was talking to another friend, a young woman also
who works in the industry, and she was saying that
she's She's like, well, what can I do when I
go when I have to travel the states that you know,

(01:36:40):
like Illinois that our gun control states, and the fact
that now everyone has to rewire their brains and think
about that. It enrages me because I don't want it
to be a chilling effect. Do you from the people
that you talk to, do you think that they feel
as though their speech.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
Will have to be chilled now as a result?

Speaker 12 (01:37:01):
What do you mean by chilled? Like they're, oh, like
we just won't be able to speak.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Yeah, Like, do you are like your fans and the
people who watch everything that you do? Do you get
this sense that they're kind of reacting to this and thinking, Wow,
I'm not going to be able to speak as loudly
as before. Maybe I don't speak up on this issue,
or you know, maybe maybe I wanted to go and
be like the next Alex Clark, And now I'm rethinking it.
Are you getting that from the folks that you're interacting with?

Speaker 16 (01:37:25):
Hell no, no, we're not complete opposite, Like like Charlie
Kirk every single time.

Speaker 12 (01:37:31):
And boy did I get myself in so much trouble.

Speaker 16 (01:37:33):
I mean not trouble by him, but like controversial things
that I would say, you know, my audience would react
or the Internet would react and it would be like,
you know, so he would get so many angry emails
like Charlie, car can you.

Speaker 12 (01:37:42):
To do something about your employee? She said this, this
or this.

Speaker 16 (01:37:45):
And he was always the first person to message me
and be like, uh, great work, keep going.

Speaker 12 (01:37:50):
Keep them talking. Like he was like whatever you believe.

Speaker 16 (01:37:53):
He didn't say necessarily you know, I agree or disagree,
but he'd just be like, whatever you think, whatever you believe,
say it, like and I know that there's all this
drama about this Hampton's trip that he was on right.

Speaker 12 (01:38:03):
Before he died.

Speaker 16 (01:38:04):
If you're on X and you live online like Dana
and I do, then you're familiar with this this stuff.
And you know, when he was on this Hampton's trip
discussing Israel and all of this, I had done a
Q and A on my Instagram stories and somebody asked me, like, Alex,
how are you feeling about the Middle East? What's your
opinions on all the Israel stuff? And I said, because
my personal opinion is I said, I'm so sick of

(01:38:25):
talking about Israel. I said, I do not care. I
do not want the I don't want the United States
of America involved in any country gariot. So I just
am done with all that. I don't want us involved anywhere.
That was what I said. And Charlie sent.

Speaker 12 (01:38:37):
A message to me and he said, he said, keep
up the good work.

Speaker 16 (01:38:43):
Whatever you believe, I support you. Keep speaking your mind.
I mean, and this is in the midst of you know,
he's allegedly like being threatened to be quiet and all
this like, so that just wasn't the case.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
And he was.

Speaker 12 (01:38:55):
He was the great coalition builder. I mean, Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 16 (01:39:01):
If you look at any single lineup that he's had
at any of our events, from Young Women's to our
Student Action Summit to America Fest, every you know, gold
star event that Turning Point Ussay has put on for
the last six years. You had different types of people
within the Republican Party, within the conservative movement, with all
sorts of different ideologies, you know, within that realm like you,

(01:39:21):
and all different types of religions. So yes, you had Jews,
you had Protestants, you had Catholics, you had atheists, agnostics.
I mean, everybody was represented at our events, and Charlie
never spoke poorly about any speaker. It was always about
elevating different voices, giving students that were involved in Turning
Point Usay and attendees to our events, you know, exposure

(01:39:41):
to different ideas so that they could think for themselves.

Speaker 12 (01:39:43):
That was always what it was about.

Speaker 16 (01:39:44):
It was always to continue people, you know, encourage critical thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
That's that's I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
I can't when I first heard the story that you
were talking about the Hamptons thing, I thought, well that
I feel like people were sort of underhandedly accused him
of being duplicitous, which.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
He never was.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
He was always exactly from what I've known with Charlie.
We knew him since I mean obviously not every day
like you did, but when he first started as a team,
everything that he was privately he was publicly. And that's
why that story kind of took me off guard because
that sounded very uncharacteristic of the Charlie Kirk that I knew.
I mean, if he felt it, then he would tell it,
he'd say it. He wasn't a guy that would get intimidated,

(01:40:24):
and he.

Speaker 16 (01:40:25):
Was open to hearing new information and definitely changing his
mind on different things. I mean, I think you saw
that throughout the years on different stanzas with like immigration
for example. Like there's just like some things like that
that I think he did kind of shift or evolve on.
He wasn't against that, but if he did, he would
tell you. I mean, every single speech he ever did,

(01:40:47):
every single podcast he ever did, every radio show, like
he shared his views up until you know, the day
that he died. He was talking about what he thought
about religion and the Middle East and foreign relations. It
was never like a big secret where he was like
I'm going to say one thing on air because I'm terrified,
and then behind the scenes, I'm saying something else. Now,
if he would have had longer to live, Dana, if
Charlie Kirk would have been on this earth another ten years,

(01:41:09):
and another twenty years and another thirty forty, he very well
could have changed his mind on things like Israel or Protestantism.
I don't know, We'll never know, but that was taken
from him, and so all we have is what he
did share while he was on this earth and until
the day he died. I mean, I believe he was
clear about all of his views.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
Yeah, I completely agree with you, and just like you
are crystal clear with all of yours. Alex Clark, you
can find her. I love your name, by the way,
your name on x CEO Alex raps with a Z.
You can find her on x Facebook and Instagram, Reel
Alex Real Alex Clark, Culture Apothecary as well as TPUSA
and everybody don't forget Fight for Charlie dot com as well.

(01:41:50):
That's where people can go and you can get the
live stream to the memorial and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:41:54):
This Sunday, Alex, God love you.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
You are just such a bright light in this dark
world right now, and I appreciate your consit distancy and
your talent and your fight, and you are one of
the young women I think to watch out for.

Speaker 4 (01:42:06):
God love you.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
I'm so happy that that you're so successful and what
you do.

Speaker 4 (01:42:10):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 12 (01:42:10):
I love you so much, Dana. I love you very
much in your whole family. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:42:14):
You're welcome. We love you too.

Speaker 7 (01:42:16):
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Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Seriously, Caine, we need an eighties karaoke night. I think, like,
come on, a little bit of Duran. Duran coming through.
And I used to put stuff up on Spotify, but
then they made everybody like like register and all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
I'm not doing any of that. Welcome back to the program.

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Two things, so we're so Sinclair had tweeted that they
said that the suspension wasn't enough and they wanted the
FCC to take additional action for all of the people
who are cautioning and saying that, well, they pressured or
if there's evidence that comes out, the FCC pressured. And
I just had Brendan carr on and I just asked
him to his face, did you call ABC? Did you

(01:43:07):
call Next Star? Did you call Sinclair? Did you pressure them?

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
He did not.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
He says if evidence comes out to show he's a liar,
then that's when we'll have that conversation. I'm not like
a non free speech purist. I am a purist. But
if so far all we have are Sinclair demanding that
he'd be suspended, Next Star demanding that he be suspended,
and ABC agreeing with him and suspending him. None of

(01:43:32):
those entities are the FCC. They're different letters all together.
So I think that everybody needs to slow their role
and stop saying, oh, the right got him canceled the right.
I mean that's just like all this stuff that we
just saw with them saying about Charlie Kirk's killer. I mean,
at some point, can these people take a beat good night?

(01:43:53):
I mean, like I said, if evidence comes out to
that point, then there you go. But that's I mean,
I just asked him, and you can go find our
interview with Brendan Carr. It's going to be up on YouTube,
and some of it's also up on X Today's stupidity.

Speaker 5 (01:44:03):
Came, all right, it's democrat. I guess politician will just
call him. Jamie Raskin, it's cut. I think sixteen because
there's two sixteen's on the list here for some reason.
But Jamie Raskin here is describing the Jimmy Kimmel situation.
Listen on Stupid.

Speaker 8 (01:44:15):
This is.

Speaker 5 (01:44:19):
Oh, it's not cool conversing Jerry Raskin, thank you so much.

Speaker 6 (01:44:24):
Ok, show hosts who are like modern Tom paines.

Speaker 13 (01:44:27):
Es Jamie Raying, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:44:29):
He's saying that the late night hosts are like modern
day Tom Pains And it's like, Okay, you're giving these
guys way too much credit. Yeah, their ratings were in
the floor, so they weren't actually moving anybody in the masses.

Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
Sorry, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
The left is line about what happened to Kimmel's, so
let's let's not help them in that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
Uh, folks, God bless you. Substack.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Make sure you go subscribe Facebook YouTube. I can subscribe
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