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Rich Zeoli sits in for Dana. Donald Trump holds a rally attracting thousands in the South Bronx. Bronx residents at the Trump rally are all turning on Biden in a blue district. Hunter Biden heads to court for his pre-trial hearing. The DOJ admits Hunter Biden’s laptop and will use it as evidence in his trial. Memorial Day Weekend sees higher gas prices and much higher food prices. Criminal Defense Attorney David Gelman joins us to break down what’s next in Trump’s trial.

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Why did you come here to borlWell, because I've done very well with
the vote. I love the people. They're incredible, they're energetic, they're
entrepreneurial, and they're gonna save NewYork. And we're gonna win New York.
And if we win New York theelections over, we take over the
country, and we take over thecompany. You're gonna war. I think
we have a chance to win NewYork. It hasn't been done in you
know, many many decades as aRepublican. I think we have a vergage.

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Yes, this is the Dana Show. It is a Friday before Moral
Day weekend. Hope you have agreat weekend ahead for you. My name
is Rich is the only in forDana today. Great to be with you.
I broadcast from Talker to twelve tento p PhD in Philadelphia, and
I'll tell you what I know thatTrump would rather be spending his time in

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Pennsylvania because it's the must win statewill decide the presidency. But he's certainly
making the most out of his timein New York, is he not?
And the Democrats are not happy.They are not pleased. Even Governor Kathy
Hokell, calling her own constituents idiotsfor going to the rally. I mean,
these people don't learn, whether it'sthe deplorables or all the other names
they call us, they just theydon't get it. They don't get it.

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People don't like to be talked downto and put down. That's why
you see a lot of Democrats whocame out to the rally in the South
Bronx and they said, hey,Biden's done nothing for us, He's done
nothing for us, and h andwe're out, We're off, We're off
the train, We're done. Thinkabout it in terms of the optics of

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this rally in the South Bronx,appealing to working class people, to black
voters, to Latino voters, andright in the heart of the blue blue
New York, and the left isconstantly saying that Trump supporters are a bunch
of white supremacists KKK maga hat wearingNeo Nazis, and that Trump is Hitler

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and blah blah blah. So whenyou see the the Puerto Rican black president
or council member from New York Citystand on the stage next to Trump last
night and endorse him for president andhis broken English, I just kept thinking
you know this whole Hitler narrative.It just doesn't. But even today on

(02:04):
social media, you know idiots writingthings like pictures from the Trump rally,
and they would put pictures of Hitlerand the and the Reich. You keep
doing this stuff, and you wonderwhy you lose, right, I mean,
you wonder why you lose. Youjust mock and insult people. Nobody
likes to be mocked and insulted inlife, and yet the left does is
constantly to people. How many timesnow have you heard people, whether it's

(02:28):
Jamie Diamond or James Carville or BillMaher say stop it already enough, stop
with a name calling. When areyou people going to learn? Stop insulting
people for their political views if they'redifferent from yours, You're not going to
win hearts and minds. It's likethe idiots to shut down traffic for their
cause, whatever their cause is,whatever your causes. Even if I agree
with you, if you shut downtraffic and make me late, I hate

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you and I hate your cause.For example, for me, this weekend,
going into Memorial Day weekend, youmay be making pizza at home.
I make pette at home. Ifind pineapple pizza to be a Discratzia.
I find it to be just anaffront to my culture, my people,
the Italians. And if you werehaving an anti Pineapple people rally and you
shut down my commute, I wouldorder a Pineapple pizza. That's how much

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I hate you if you make melate. But it's the same thing with
the Democrats, and they're deplorables andyou're a bunch of racists and you can't
read. You ever argue with somebodyin social media, which you shouldn't do.
It's just not worth it. Butif you do, what's the first
thing they say to you. Typicallyyou're dumb, you don't read. If
you read a book, I knewyou, Maga. People don't know how
to read but you, and theylove those insults. I'm smarter than you,

(03:38):
I'm better than you, I'm morewell read than you. And that's
exactly the problem the Democrats have.So a couple of months ago, James
Carville, who is a very smartguy, got a president elected, and
unlike George Stephanopolois, he doesn't pretendto be unbiased. Yeah, he's as
blue as you get. But hetalked to Mareen down at the New York
Times and he said, you know, the problem right now for the Democrats

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is they listen to a lot ofelite academic women. And let's face it,
these are white liberal women, right, not even liberals, white leftist
women. And they've been lectured toabout what to eat, what not to
eat. You know, as Carvelsaid, it go eat your peas you
know for the climate, like don'teat hamburgers, eat plant based burgers.

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And he said, as a resultof this, now the Democrat Party,
it comes across you're talking down topeople, you're insulting us, and you're
losing men, particularly black men.They don't want to hear this crap anymore.
But if the party, if theDemocrat Party has become the party of
the faculty lounge. Well, thefaculty lounge, they always think they're the
smartest people in the room. Professorswith their PhDs and their eds and everything

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else. They they always think theyare the smartest people in the room.
If you went to college, orif you didn't go to college, you
know exactly what I'm talking about.So it makes sense that the party that
has become the party of the ofthe faculty lounge and has completely a in
white working class voters and black workingclass voters and Latino working class voters and
has decided to choose to associate withthe elite white for the most part,

(05:11):
lefties at universities would be the partythat would then start mocking people and insulting
their intelligence. It makes perfect sense, and it's also why Joe Biden is
trying to bribe everybody with a studentloan debt repayment scam. And the other
day Kareean John Pierre was asked aboutthis from that NBC News reporter who asked
her. He said, you knowwhat about the plumbers and the electricians and

(05:33):
all the people that didn't go tocollege and all the debt they have,
And Karan John Pierre said, well, yeah, but the people with college
loans are being literally crushed by debt. And he said, well, not
literally. She said, well,I mean, because she said literally crushed
to death, as if giant,giant palettes of money were crushing these people.

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It's a figure of speech. It'snot literal, it's figuratively. But
I go, I don't want todo what the left does and mock somebody
for their choice of words or theirgrammar. But the point that he was
making was what about all these otherpeople. If you're a working class guy
or gal and you may owe moneyon your truck, maybe you got to
buy tools this weekend, and you'reto take advantage of Memorial Day sales,

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but you got to throw it onthe credit card. Nobody's coming to help
you. No one's coming to bailyou out. If you're just people that
work for a living, you havea mortgage, you got college debt,
whatever it is, they're not comingto bail you out either. They're coming
to bail out the elite college kidswhose parents have a lot of money,
and the kids who will wind upgoing to make statistically speaking with degrees,

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will make more money in their life. Over the course of their lifetime,
they'll make more money. That's whothe Democrats are trying to bail out now.
And the reason why is because JoeBiden has not locked down his crazy
base, and his crazy base consistsof a lot of these college kids who
are protesting and having their encampments andeverything else. So if you can't win
them, you can't win them overwhere you bribe them. You bribe them.

(07:01):
It's the old way, it's theJersey way, it's the Philly way.
You bribe them. It's the Chicagoway. If I can't convince you
to vote for me because you don'tthink my policies, you don't think I'm
left enough on climate, you don'tthink I'm left enough on hating Israel,
you don't think I'm left enough onwhatever. Well, then how about some
money. How about that? Doesit make it better? How about a
nice bag of cash. In theold days, you give him a bag
of cash. Now you send hima government check. That's what you do

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now to these elite college kids inplaces like Michigan and Pennsylvania where Joe Biden
is hemorrhaging votes, hemorrhaging votes.And then when you come back to the
South Bronx and you think about therally, and you think about seeing black
voters and Hispanic voters there and allthese other people that are there to support
Trump because they think the Democrat Partyhas abandoned them. Here's one woman I

(07:46):
heard yesterday, she said. Thereporter asked, he said, well,
Joe Biden says, if you don'tvote for me, you ain't black.
And she said, well, thenI guess I identify as a white male.
I don't know what to tell youshe said, I'm a mom,
I have kids, I care aboutpolicy, I don't really care what people
think of me, and I'm tiredof Biden and Trump's better. There's a
lot of people that feel that wayat this point in time, and that's
why Trump's doing as well as he'sdoing in the swing states, and it's

(08:07):
why he's now winning with Hispanic voteand outperforming with the black vote, on
track as Harry Anton from CNN putit, on track now, to do
better than any Republican has ever donewith the black vote. Now, the
last time a Republican won New Yorkwas Ronald Reagan. And I don't think
Trump needs to win New York andI'm not really particularly worried about it.
And if the campaign asked my opinion, I'd say focus all your resources in

(08:30):
Pennsylvania and Michigan, because you winthose two and game over. I think
Trump easily, not easily, butI think he wins Georgia, he wins
North Carolina. I think the questionis Nevada in Arizona. But he doesn't
need to win those states. Hewins Georgia, he wins North Carolina,
he wins Michigan, he wins Pennsylvania. He's got more than enough that he
needs, you know. But hey, look, the Wildwood rally in Jersey,

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which I went to, was notabout trying to win Jersey, and
the South Bronx rally was not abouttrying to win New York. It was
a sending a message, and wildWood the message was, Hey, look
at the roller coroaster behind me.I know that this is a much more
affordable family vacation in the Wildwoods ofSouth Jersey compared to the Hamptons of New

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York. South Bronx working class people, people that don't live in snooty hipsterville
like Williamsburg, Brooklyn and you know, the east side of Manhattan or against
the east side of some Republicans init, but the West side of Manhattan,
like the Village and all those cool, hip, trendy places. Soho.
And it's about people that actually workfor a living, and that's who

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Trump appeals to. And that's whatthis selection is about, because the Democraft
Party has forgotten about working class people. Well, think about it. You
can't. You can't be all inon climate change, for example, and
the Green New Deal and then pretendlike you care about working class people.
Working class people work in the energysector. A lot of them need to
fill their trucks with gasoline, alot of them work in natural gas,

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a lot of them build cars,and they know that evs mean they lose
jobs. And so if you embracethe climate change agenda because you want to
please the academics of the faculty lounge, you're going to tick off the working
class voters. That's just a fact. And then if you mock them and
you insult them, then you're goingto further annoy and alienate them. But

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here's New York Governor Cathy Hochele,who and many of these people are her
constituents. I'm sure they didn't votefor her, but they are her constituents
nonetheless. And the point is thatwhen the Democrats, if they ever,
if they ever learned this lesson tostop mocking and insulting and belittling people,
it would serve them. Well,I'm not going to tell them, they

(10:43):
don't listen to me, and Ihave no interest in helping them, But
if they would be smart to juststop with the name calling. I mean,
wasn't there a time we taught ourkids this, don't call people names?
And then we told their kids whenthey were called names. Well,
be resilient. Remember six and stonescan break my bones, but names will
never hurt me. Remember that Ihave three kids. I have a nine

(11:05):
year old, to seven year oldand a four year old. So I
tell my I tell my kids allthe time. Be nice to people.
Don't don't make fun of them,don't don't mock them, don't insult them.
You're not gonna win. You're notgonna make friends that way. Even
if other kids are making fun ofsomebody, don't join in. You'll do
better in life if you don't joinin on that. You would think Democrat
adults would understand that lesson? Wasyou not? You would think you would

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think grown men and women would knowthe lesson that I'm trying to teach my
children. Instead, they insult theirown people, their own constituents. Here's
hok well cut one. Well,I'll tell you won't make a difference at
all, Jake, And that isfor Donald Trump to be the ringleader of
and invite all his clowns to aplace like the Bronx. New York will

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never ever support Donald Trump for president. We know him better than anyone,
and that means we understand what he'sall about is just for him. So
this state will go solidly behind JoeBiden. For they're clowns. They're clowns,
you see, they're clowns. Itdoesn't matter, Jake. First of

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all, she may be right.New York may go for Joe Biden,
but it doesn't matter. It's notIt doesn't change the trajectory of the election
for Donald Trump. But we seethe point she's missing, the point that
a lot of Democrats are missing,is that these black and Hispanic voters and
white working class voters outside of NewYork watch that rally and see Trump talking

(12:33):
to them and relating to them.So when they vote in places like Pennsylvania
and Michigan and Georgia and North Carolinaand Nevada and Arizona, they vote in
these places, they vote for Trump. See. The Democrats don't get that.
They don't see that. They don'tunderstand that. It's not about winning
New York, you bosos, It'snot about winning New Jersey. It's about
sending a message. And by theway, a lot of people who are

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at the Wildwood rally, and Iwas there, although I was at a
party at a bar called Mulligan shorebar. We had a lot of fun
there that day, but I sawit with my own eyes. There were
a lot of Pennsylvania plates. There'sa lot of Pennsylvania people vacation at the
Jersey Shore. It's only an hourfrom Philly hour and a half hour and
depending on traffic, could be longer. But you know what I mean.
You got my drift, all right? This is the data show. It's

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hosted daily from The Dana Show.African Americans are getting slaughtered. Hispanic Americans
are getting slaughtered. And these millionsand millions of people that are coming into
our country, the biggest impact andthe biggest negative impact is against our black

(18:34):
population and our Hispanic population who arelosing their jobs, losing their housing,
losing everything they can lose. That'sright. That was President Trump yesterday,
Future President Trump yesterday in the SouthBronx, Welcome back to the Dana Show.
It's me Rich Zioly from Talker totwelve ten WPHD in Philadelphia. You

(18:56):
can follow along on Twitter at richZioli. So this idea of African Americans.
Hispanic Americans impacted the most by illegalimmigration. It's true they're losing their
jobs or seeing crime surge in NewYork. They got to watch as legal
immigrants get prepaid debit cards. Theyhave to watch as their community centers are
closed so they can house the legalimmigrants. They've got to watch as all

(19:18):
these things are occurring, and meanwhilethey're struggling. Now, how does some
of the BRONX voters and residents feelabout things that are going on? Well,
first of all, let's start withthis. This is a BRONX voter
who said, I've been a Democratall my life and Donald Trump, you
know, he's got the right answers. Imagine that cut twelve. You said

(19:40):
you've always voted Democrats, but thisyear it's going to change. Why is
that? Because I've seen the churn. Won't put the word with the bid
nominis with the Democratic Party. I'vebeen a Democrat all my life and Donald
Trunk, who just have the rightanswers, be speaking on the legal immigration,
all the money pouring out of acountry people love, with their job,

(20:00):
the economy, is failing. Andyet sixty years old, I realize
now that we have to support DonaldTrump and live things better. Got to
support Donald Trump and make things better. He's sixty years old, Hey listen,
betterly up and never it's what Isay. Welcome to the party,
Pal, Welcome to the party.But AOC is not happy about this Alexandria

(20:21):
Cosio Cortez. He's not from theBronx. She's not Sandy from the block,
as much as she likes to pretendshe is. She's from the streets.
She's not. She's from a veryvery prestigious area outside of the Bronx
in Westchester County, very very affluentarea. But it's okay. You know,
she likes the pretending. She's keepingit real on the streets. Well,
what do they think, what DoDBronx residents think about AOC? Does

(20:45):
she even understand the struggle? Cutthirteen? Where you're from the Bronx,
actually originally from the Bronx and fromNew York. I'm from the Bronx right
here in the Bronx, New York. This is home right here, AOC
says. If you're not a Democrat, you don't belong here in the Bronx.
What do you say, I disagreewith that. I don't think she
should be here in the Bronx.I actually don't know any Democrats sitting in

(21:07):
the Bronx. Look AOC, lookat the tremendous support for mister Donald J.
Trump. You need to tell onIn she needs to stay out the
Bronx because look at all the peoplearound. Everybody say for Trump. I
am a Democrat and I belong here. That's who he votes for, Donald
J. Trump. What is AOCdone for the Bronx. She's done nothing
for the Bronx. Nothing, nothing'schanged, nothing's gotten any better, nothing,

(21:33):
absolutely nothing. Era come to theBronxa, Naha, come among us.
People got struggled. She doesn't evenknow what struggle is. She doesn't
even know what struggle is. Obviouslythere was a montage of residence, but
the last one at the end.I love that she doesn't even know what
the struggle is. Of course shedoesn't. She has no idea. Sandy
from the Bloc has no idea whatthe struggles were like. And this is
a bigger crowd than Democrats would liketo see. Even CNN had to admit

(21:56):
that. Even CNN and they're nothappy about it. Now, in their
defense, nobody heard them say thisbecause nobody's watching CNN. No, really,
they are at their lowest numbers ever, I mean, even worse than
when the lesser Cuomo was on thenetwork. It's that bad. CNN's numbers
are terrible, and they're just gettingThey're just getting worse. I mean I

(22:17):
saw this story as a CNN seeslowest weekly primetime ratings among key demographics since
nineteen ninety one. Across all demos, the network recorded just four hundred and
ninety four thousand viewers CNN. Youremember the time, the day and age
of Wolf Blitzer's beard, when itwas in its glory, everybody tune into

(22:37):
CNN to watch OJ and the Broncothe plane that went missing storms. But
since then, CNN has never beenable to gain a footing. And the
problem is because they're MSNBC light.Let's face it, if you really hate
Trump and you hate Republicans, you'regonna tune into MSNBC because they at least
go all in. CNN hates Trumptoo, but they still kind of pretend,

(23:00):
and they do that pretend thing likeoh we're we're up the middle.
We call it up the middle.No, you don't stop. You can't
be MSNBC light and expect to drawfrom MSNBC. And most of those those
numbers are probably because people are stuckat airports having to watch CNN. But
anyway, this is what they said, cut fourteen. What was the crowd

(23:21):
like, What kind of response didhe get? Well, certainly a bigger
crowd than I think Democrats have liketo see, particularly given this as one
of the blewest counties in the entirecountry. Now, one of the things
that was interesting to me is thatthe Trump campaign said that they were going
to micro target to get people fromthe community to come to this rally.
I wasn't sure what to expect.I've gone to a lot of these rallies
across the country, and there areoften people who travel hundreds of miles to

(23:45):
see Donald Trump, and they're notnecessarily part of the community. However,
one of the things that I foundwas that there were a lot of people
here that were actually from the Bronx. Ooh, that's not good. People
from the Bronx actually came to seeTrump. That doesn't make any sense.
I hope the only people that likeTrump were in Alabama and Montana and the

(24:06):
Woods shining their weapons and buying Cabella'sfishing hats. I mean, I can't
believe this. By the way,speaking of weapons Hunters and his pre trial
hearing in the gun case, NateSilver, who's a Polster, thinks that
Joe Biden should consider dropping out ofthe race for president. That's how bad
Joe Biden's poll numbers are. NateSilver. He said, replacing Biden at

(24:30):
the last minute is a risky idea. The question is whether by August the
hail Mary could become the least worstoption for Democrats. Let's go through the
timing of this for just a moment. Let's think about this hunter. Biden's
in court today for his hearing inthe gun case. Had his legal team

(24:51):
not been a bunch of morons,he would not be in court today.
He was given the ultimate deal.I've said this before and I'll say it
again, and I've said it onthis show and on my show. Don't
call it a sweetheart deal. Frustratesme when I hear people say that it
was not a sweetheart deal. Itwas the deal to cover up the financial
crimes of the president of the UnitedStates of America created by the Department of

(25:14):
Justice, and they wrapped all ofthe financial and tax crimes into the gun
charge. Why is that relevant?See under federal law, if you enter
a diversion agreement with an Apartment ofJustice over a firearm application, the judge

(25:34):
has no authority to reject it.When you do a plea agreement, for
the most part, judges have aright to turn around and say I don't
agree. Prosecution and defense come toan agreement, and the judge goes,
I don't care that I reject this. Either go work work it out again,
or plead guilty or come to trial. I'm not accepting this. But
in that case, the judge hadno ability to reject the version agreement.

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But here's the little trick, andthis is why I know the Apartment of
Justice was trying to cover up forthe president by wrapping all the financial crimes
into the gun diversion agreement. Thejudge couldn't also reject the plea agreement around
the financial and tax crimes. Hadthey just come with a plea deal around
those, she could have. Sothat judge was smart, She Jedi mind

(26:22):
tricked the Hunter Biden legal team intorejecting the plea agreement. Those Hunters an
idiot, and idiots higher idiots.Now they do. I mean they do
morens hire morons. It's just howit works in life. Smart people hire
smart people. So his his rockstar legal team let the deal of a
lifetime, a deal that also wouldhave protected the President of the United States,

(26:45):
vanish before their very eyes, becausethe judge was smart enough to ask
the question, could Hunter Biden facecharges later on down the road? And
the DOJ said, yeah, theoretically, I guess. And Hunter said,
what I thought this game the immunityfor everything for life. And he said,
well, no, I mean theoreticallyyou could be charged for, say,

(27:07):
failing to file as a foreign agent, failing to register as a foreign
agent. And he said, well, I'm not accepting this then, and
they said okay. So now he'sin court on the gun case, facing
prison time on that. But here'sthe best part. Once that deal was
rejected, then the Feds came inand charged him separately for the financial crimes.

(27:30):
And that's what happened in California.When the federales came in and charged
him for tax evasion and all theother stuff. That trial has just been
delayed until September. The Democrat NationalConvention is August. Let me ask you
an honest question here. If you'rea Democrat and you really are worried about

(27:52):
Trump getting in there, you're reallyworried about Donald Trump parked too. The
Revenge like Jaws to the Revenge,only better. Jaw's two is not exactly
the best of the Jaws movies,but it was better than Jaws three and
three D. And Jaws four wasjust an abomination. Mario van Peebles,
it was just awful. But butit's I mean, nothing can top Jaws,

(28:14):
obviously, but but the revenge,you know, so Donald Trump's gonna
get in there, and he's gonnahe's gonna go after the deep state.
And even said at the rally yesterdaysaid I've learned a lot. I surrounded
myself with uh, with people Ishouldn't have, and I've learned a lot.
We're gonna go in there this timearound. We got a great team.
Good. Don't listen to the Republicanestablishment hacks and the people that want
to see the status quo. You'rea Democrat, you're thinking to yourself,

(28:37):
Okay, Joe Biden can barely speaknow, and it's may as Nate Siller
points out, if he stumbles throughthe debates, it could get even worse.
He says, if the polls getworse for Biden, such as because
he flubbs the first debate, itcould get worse from that. What's the
threshold where random Democrats grab bag candidateor even Harris offers better odds than Biden.

(29:00):
People should think about all this stuff. And he's saying that right now,
this is not where you want tobe. Like Barack Obama at this
point in his reelection was ahead inall the polls. This is just a
very very bad place to be.So think about so Biden can barely speak,
he's yelling at reporters, he can'tread on the teleprompter anymore. The
debate could be a disaster for him. And then the trial starts with his

(29:22):
idiot son, his idiot crackheads son, Hunter Biden on financial crimes. Right
as Americans get ready to come backfrom vacation after Labor Day, when the
political season really begins, when youstart really focusing in on politics. Now
suddenly there's a trial about tax evasionand everything else. Guys like Hunter Biden,

(29:44):
they don't like to go to jail. They don't like it, so
they sing like a canary, whathappens if a gigantic October surprise comes out
right before the election implicating the PresidentJoe Biden in his Sun's lucrative business dealings,
which we all know he's implicated in. Now you've got a guy who

(30:06):
can't speak. His poll numbers aredown. He did, he did terrible
at the debates, even though theytried to prop him up with vitamin B
twelve and B pollen and red bulland probably cocaine and add a roll and
kind of a whole transfusion thing.And he still still did did a terrible
job in the debates. And nowyou've got this big October surprise out there.
You've lost this panic support, you'rebleeding black support. Are Democrats really

(30:30):
going to take that chance? Orare they going to swap this guy out?
I mean, what do you think? What do you think happens here?
Honestly? And I know that everybodythinks it's too late. It's not
too late. The conventions in August, they have time. That's their deadline.
Though they could they could do aswitcheroo at the Democrat National Convention in

(30:51):
Chicago, and then as America comesback from vacation summer break and everybody gets
back to school and back to workand starts focusing in on this stuff.
Now you meet new Democrat candidate forPresident of the United States. Now there's
several barriers to this happening, obviously, but when you got guys like Nate
Silver coming out and saying this,this is a real Democrats they need to

(31:11):
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do with why Democrats are panicking todayand guys like Nate Silver turning around and
saying, Biden, really the Democratsneed to think about him dropping out of
this race. And I was lookingat his analysis of this, and again,
he's a numbers guy, He's adata guy. Biden's down in every
single swing state pole, the majorityof them. He's down in all the

(33:25):
states of the swing states that youneed to win. The majority of polls,
He's down in all of the majorityof the polls. So there's like
one or two there are outliers thatshow him up or very very close,
but those are outliers. And nowand it's May, and his point is
that if we get closer to electionday and it gets even worse for Biden,

(33:45):
he's the Democrats don't have any optionsat this point. They're running out
of options, so they may needto make a switch. And you're running
out of time if you're going tomake a switch, because if you don't
make the switch by August, it'stoo late. So you got to you
have if you're going to change out, if you're gonna change candidates, you

(34:07):
got to do it by August.You got to do it at the convention.
Otherwise it's just too late. Sonow the question becomes, if you're
Joe Biden and you're down, howdo you how do you regain that gap?
How do you make up that gap? Well, one of the ways
you could do is you could havemore debates. But Biden only challenged Trump
to two debates. The Presidential Commissionwanted three debates. Jomp actually challenged Biden.

(34:30):
But you know what I mean,Biden is going to debate Trump twice.
Nate Silver's point is, if you'redown in the polls, you want
as many opportunities as you possibly canto try to make up that ground.
But think about it, Biden saysno to the super Bowl interview. He
said he only wants to do twodebates, not three's he's not doing sit

(34:52):
down interviews anymore because he can't becausementally speaking, the guy can't, he
can't do I'll play some audio thenext hour that proves this. But it's
a problem for them. And thenyou still have hanging over their heads,
you have Hunter Biden. You know, I'm convinced. I still am convinced.

(35:14):
There's a reason why they rushed backin October of twenty twenty to tell
you that that Hunter Biden laptop wasRussian disinformation. And it wasn't because they
were worried about Hunter Biden's disgusting nudiepicks. It wasn't because they were worried
about that. It was because itimplicated Joe the big guy, and the

(35:34):
whole campaign was about kind old manin the basement keeping America safe from mean
tweets and COVID, And it couldn'tbe that this guy has actually been on
the take, using his political powerand influence to enrich himself and his family.
But now all that's going to comeout in the fall when Hunter Biden's
on trial. This is a bigrisk the Democrats are taking keeping this guy's

(36:01):
their candidate. It's a gigantic risk, and I, for one don't think
they're going to do it. I'dbe shocked if Biden remains the candidate.
What about you, all right?We got a big hour number two coming
up on the Dana Show. It'sme Rich is the only in for data.
More reaction from the South, bronxunter Biden in court and you know
what too. I gotta tell youit's not surprising the green left people are

(36:28):
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Danish show. It's great to bewith you on this Friday before our long

(37:55):
Memorial Day weekend. It's rich.It's the only from Talker to twelve ten
to be in Philadelphia where I dothe afternoon drive show from three to seven
pm every day except today because afterthis show kids are off from school.
We're gonna go have a little familydays we begin the long weekend. Let's
never forget, of course, MondayMemorial Day. We remember those who gave
the ultimate sacrifice for our country.And one of my favorite memes that I've

(38:20):
ever seen out there is is sideby side picture of your day at the
beach. That's a picture of people, you know, I'm just enjoying their
day at the beach, brought toyou by their day at the beach.
And it's a picture of our boysstorming the beaches of Normandy on June sixth.
So just keep in mind, ofcourse, on Monday, as we
and you should barbecue, go tothe beach, the pool, have friends

(38:40):
over, family, enjoy the day, enjoy the freedom, but don't forget
to remember and honor those who givethe ultimate sacrifice for that freedom that we
will enjoy this Memorial Day. Myfavorite thing just happened a moment ago.
The special counsel who's going after HunterBiden. They are going to use the

(39:01):
laptop as a trial exhibit. Andthis is the statement they put out.
The defendant's laptop is real. Itwill be produced as a trial exhibit,
and it contains significant evidence of thedefendant's guilt. Boom, Wait a second,
Wait a second. That's that's weirdthough, because I thought that laptop

(39:23):
was Russian disinformation. That's what theytold me. They told me that they
told you this too. Let's seeif the tweets still up. I always
like I bookmark this yes. Jensakiten forty five pm October nineteenth, twenty
twenty. Hunter Biden's story is Russiandisinfo. Dozens of former Intel officials say

(39:45):
Jensaki, who now is a journalist, that was the best. The other
day she was at a thing andshe described herself as a journalist, and
the crowd started laughing, you're ajournalist just as unbiased as georgseephonoposis. So
the Hunter Biden laptop that you weretold at one point was Russian disinformation,
and if you try to talk aboutit, it was censored. It was

(40:07):
censored by all the big big tech, big tech corporate media. Everybody censored
it. The New York Post storycouldn't share it. And for a year
or so they kept telling you asRussian disinformation. That laptop is now going
to be used as evidence because itcontained significant evidence of the defendant's guilt.

(40:27):
I love that The irony of thisis just fantastic. The DOJ is going
to use the Hunter Biden laptop asevidence in the trial. Now this is
just the gun case. This one'snot as bad for Joe Biden. It's
the financial case in September. That'sthe one that I think has the tendency
the potential to bring down the bigguy because you know, and I know
everybody knows that Joe Biden's implicating inall this. That's why they wanted the

(40:51):
financial crimes to all go away,and they tried to roll it into the
gun diversion. Agreement. This way, it would all go away, and
the judge couldn't reject it. Thejudge out smarted them, and that's why
we're here today. So getting backto this point about Joe Biden and his
candidacy. You're gonna have the DemocratNational Convention in August in Chicago. You're
gonna have protests there. You're gonnahave all these crazy college kids protesting,

(41:15):
all these crazy anti Israel people protesting. You're gonna have a president who can
barely speak and barely read the teleprompterget up on stage and accept his party's
nomination. He's down in the polls, He's at thirty eight percent approval rating.
He's losing in every single swing state. There's only two debates with a

(41:36):
chance to turn it around for him, and you know as well as I
do, he's not going to performwell in either of the debates. And
then his son goes on trial forfinancial crimes, in which case he could
be implicated in those crimes. Headinginto the general election and the ultimate October
surprise, are the Democrats really reallygoing to keep Joe Biden on the ballot?

(41:58):
Having come on, come and Iknow that the guy look he's a
stubborn old guy. He's a stubbornold man. He's a stubborn Irish guy,
as he always says. And it'snot that easy to get rid of
somebody with an ego like his.He's got a massive ego. And how
do you do it? How doyou get Joe Biden out of the race,
because that's the question. Well,there's two things that need to happen.

(42:22):
The first is you have to getrid of Kamala Harris because the Kamala
Harris problem has always been Joe Biden'sachilles heel. Kamala Harris is less popular
than Joe Biden is if you canbelieve that she gets crushed by Donald Trump,
in my opinion, crushed Her recordalone as the Attorney general in California
prosecuting black people for drug crimes willfurther hurt the chances of the Democrats with

(42:50):
the African American vote in the fall. So she's a terrible candidate. So
you have to deal with her first, because if Biden steps aside and you
don't nominate Kamala Harris, well,then Wolke's going to be very upset and
at the convention, you can't riskthe fact that she's able to rally and
get the nomination, so all thishas to be controlled. The Democrats want
to see Justice Sonya Socio Mayor offthe Supreme Court because they're really worried Trump's

(43:15):
going to win and replace her.The other day, either it was David
Pluff, one of those guys fromthe Obama administration. They were all talking
on Podsea of America and they weresaying, you know, Trump could appoint
four or five justices if he getsa second term, four or five justices
if he gets back in the WhiteHouse. They're terrified of that, so

(43:37):
they want Sonya Soto Mayor to gonow so that they can replace her with
somebody who's a lefty. Well,there's your opportunity. You convince her to
go. You put Kamala Harris onthe Supreme Court, and then now you
can replace Joe Biden without having toworry about Kamala Harris, and you solve
that problem. The second thing youhave to do is convince the crime,

(44:00):
shitty old man that he he canwin. You have to, you have
to, You have to. Hisego is massive. Joe Biden has a
massive ego. You got to convincehim well he could win. The question,
though, mister president, is doyou really want to be implicated in
all of your son's crimes? Doyou want your son to have to go

(44:22):
through this? Or you could pardonhim and save him a trial, putting
your son first and then you asa dad first over your political future and
then say you're not going to runfor reelection because you just can't risk your
son using again. And you havethe power to do it, but you

(44:43):
also know that it's not politically thepolitically the smart thing to do, but
you don't care. You have tosave your son, and then well,
then your legacy will be preserved andwe can go on about what a what
a what a great dad you are, blah blah blah blah blah. So
then he pardons Hunter. He getsout of the race. The trial of

(45:04):
Hunter Biden does not happen. JoeBiden's not implicated. It's over the Biden
crime family. They get to enjoytheir money and nobody can touch them.
Statute limitations have expired. Hunter Biden'sbeen pardoned, it's over. It all
goes away, and then they swapthem out. That's how that's that's how
this could play out. And it'snot easy. It's not easy to get

(45:28):
rid of a guy with Biden's massivemeglomaniac ego. And he thinks the poles
are wrong. And he's got peoplearound him who I guess are telling him
the polls are wrong, and andand so they're living in this fantasy world.
Nate Silher's point is, the pollsare not wrong, Like, these
polls are not wrong. And wheneversomebody's winning in the polls, they say
the polls are right. When somebody'slosing in the polls, they say the
polls are wrong. Carvill said thesame thing. James Carvill said the same

(45:52):
thing. He said, the pollsare not wrong, and we got to
stop pretending like they're wrong. Likestop, he's losing, he's losing,
and and and and the problem is, I mean again, he can't he
can't speak. He calls him areporter from a pre selected list at his
press conference, this is what thethe president of Kenya, and then tells

(46:13):
the reporter he can only ask onequestion, all right, this is cut
five, Cut five, Steve,first question, Michael Wilner, McClatchy,
thank you, mister president. Twoquestions, if I may or no one,

(46:34):
no one. So he's got hispre selected list. My first question
measures measure from McClatchy. Got thelist there and then got one. You
got one? All right, You'relucky. I'm even here and he's got
the question. He probably has theanswer all right there for him. And
anyway, then then Biden asked theultimate question, of course, which as

(46:59):
he as, do I ask thenext question? Cut four? Okay?
Next do I ask the next question? As well? Let me ask do
I ask the next question? No, you're the president, the revets the
press asked the question, he swurred, had to read from his note cards.

(47:21):
Again. I'm telling you this asyou think about Biden debating on a
debate stage where he doesn't have theability to just stay on no cards and
script the entire time, where Trump, who does not come across as a
cadaver. And again that's what JamesCarvill said to the ladies on the View,
or Bill Maher said to the ladieson the View. He said,
Joe Biden comes across as a cadaver. So Trump's going to beat him up

(47:43):
on that stage, and Joe Biden'sgoing to have to respond, and it's
going to have to be spontaneous andgood luck with that when he can barely
get through his note cards. Cutthree. And by the way, if
you asked about you apply, andwe weren't through any of the anywhere else.
Well, we're kind of ocupied aroundthe world. But we're also engaged
in Congo, in the neighborhood,and you know you can't help alleviate human

(48:07):
suffering there. The United States isthe largest humanitarian donut, providing three hundred
and seventy five billion in humanitarian fundingjust this year. Who to support from
one of the six million displaced peoplefrom the DRC Oh wow ooof oof And
that's him reading, that's him reading. Imagine when he doesn't have to read.

(48:29):
Biden tells the Kenyan president that theAfrican content will soon have a billion
people. By the way, italready has a billion people. But I
digress. Cut six. And youknow, the African cons kind of a
billion people, not too soon.The idea, we can ignore it.
It makes no sense at all.Ignore it. What do you want to
what do you what do you wantto do? Start population controls, sterilization

(48:51):
killing people? What do you wantto do? What's your what's your solution?
Considering they already out of billion people, and then then then I don't
know what. I don't know whatthis means. If you can translate this
from me, that'd be great.Cut seven, Jill and I are honored
to have you here and represented,including many members of the African diaspora.

(49:12):
One just left Rock. You've beenvery grace You've met the president of this
morning. You know what I mean, just here a little while ago.
Huh what what? What? So? Yeah, they got a they got
a problem. In the meantime,Trump is picking up and doing really really

(49:35):
well with key groups. The DemocratParty needs more on that. In just
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story. The Feds are going touse the Hunter Biden laptop in his gun

(55:15):
trial, which I just love.Welcome back to the Dana Show. It's
me Rich is the only in formy friend Dana. Hope you have a
great weekend ahead. Federal prosecutors planto deploy thousands of pages of electronic records
from Hunter Biden's laptop from Hell,including a message demanding more chore boy to

(55:36):
smoke crack cocaine. That's right.According to a New York Post story,
President Biden's fifty four year old songoes on trial June third in Delaware federal
court accusing him of illegally owning agun while addicted to drugs, and prosecutors
in Special Counsel David Weiss's office hassaid they planned to show damning evidence taken
from the laptop, a hard drive, and an iCloud account linked to his

(56:00):
iPad and his iPhone. In all, they have more than eighteen thousand pages
of Biden's electronic records, which theywant to summarize in a chart for durers
messages between the defendant and Witness threebeginning in row eighty eight because the defendant
began using his ex wife's phone inOctober twenty eighteen and her old phone was

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not sync to his eycloud account.Witness three will testify to the authenticity of
these messages at trial. Messages inrow eighty five eighty six A message where
the defendant says quote I need morechure chore boy. I need more chore
boy, which is used consistently inthe message with how the defendant described chore

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boy in his book chore Boy isI guess crack cocaine Rose eighty seven and
one thirty five to win thirty sevenmessages where the defendant says he is in
Delaware, which is consistent with hisATM withdrawal activity, location information on photographs
on his phone, and his admissionsin his book Wrote to fourteen A photograph
of the defendant with a crack pipein his hand. Well, I mean

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who amongst us doesn't have one ofthose lining around him? A right?
Huh? Two sixteen to two ninetytwo videos and photographs of the defendant with
a crack pipe and drug messages fromDecember to March twenty nineteen, consistent with
the defendant's characterization of his activity inhis book, One message says I need
more chore boy. According to courtpapers filed by prosecutors on Wednesday, is

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amazing. All this could have goneaway now amazing. I mean, it's
just it really is delicious to thinkabout the last summer. This was all
going to go away. It wasperfectly wrapped up in a gun diversion agreement
along with the financial crimes. Don'tforget something. This gun case doesn't affect
Joe Biden, but the same evidencethat they have probably implicates Joe Biden and

(57:54):
Hunter Biden's business dealings. See that'sthe October surprise. Like I just said
to on Twitter Ed Farmer, andyou can tweet along the show as well
at rich Zeoli r A C hZeo l I. He said, I
don't think voters are going to beswayed by the Hunter Biden trial in the
fall. It's not about swaying voters. It's about we don't know what we

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don't know, but Biden knows orhe forgot, but he knew at one
point and now the prosecutors know.So See, if you want to get
the guy out of the race,and they've gone through the laptop which we
were all told was Russian disinformation?And why were we told that? Do
you think it was really? Honestly? Do you honestly believe it was because

(58:34):
they were so worried that if thesedisgusting pictures of Hunter Biden came out and
pictures of him with a crack pipe, that Joe Biden would lose. No,
no, no, come on,that's the stuff, Candid, It's
hope happened. Well, think aboutit. He gets to stand up there
as a father and say, yeah, you know, my son struggled like
millions of Americans struggle, and you, as a parent, may have a

(58:55):
child with an addiction. It's theworst. And when I'm president, I'm
gonna fight to make sure that yourfamily gets to help, that you need
to be able to battle addiction,and that we can save people's lives.
Oh, it would be a greatpolitical moment. No, you don't have
fifty former national security deep state hacksall rushed together to say the laptop is

(59:19):
Russian disinformation when they know it's not, and they knew it wasn't because the
FBI had it in its possession sincetwenty nineteen, and it was Mike Morell,
the CIA and those people that werethe ones that orchestrated this whole idea
to say it was Russian disinformation.You don't say it because Hunter Biden's got
a crackpipe. You don't send everybodyinto a tailspin because of that. You

(59:44):
see that that's a political opportunity rightthere. My son, I tell you
he went through hell, but heturned his life around, and I'm glad
I was able to help him asa dad, you know. And if
people want to judge me because ofmy son's addiction, well then you're gonna
have to judge millions and millions ofAmericans whose children battle addiction and on their
behalf. I will fight for that. I'm what a political gift. I'm

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kidding me. In fact, ifI were the candidate and I found out
that they said the laptop was rushingdisinformation because they were worried about my son's
drug addiction and pictures of him withhookers coming out, I'd be like,
why would you deprive me of thisopportunity to stand before America and say my
son turned his life around. Ican help you with your children, save

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them from the throes of addiction,and I could do a whole big event
with parents whose sons and daughters havedied from drug addiction or battle drug addiction,
and I pledge to provide more money, more resources, more training.
This will be my signature achievement.If I'm elected president, I would fire
those people. Are you kidding me? I would fire them for depriving me

(01:00:51):
of that political gift. And youknow that Joe Biden would have no problem
using his son for political purposes.He does it all the time. How
many times has he confused where Bodied or openly lied to people and said
Bo died in war? I meanhe's Bo. Biden has died in more
places than Waldo's ever been. Heloves to use his family for political purposes,

(01:01:13):
even when he's giving marriage advice,like you should definitely marry a woman
who's got five sisters because you know, yeah, spices things up a little
bit, if you know what Imean. Oh, he loves to use
his family for political purposes. No, stop it. They didn't cover up
the Hunter Biden laptop and tell youwas rushing disinformation and have the New York
Post censored and have big tech workwith the corporate media and the FBI because

(01:01:37):
they were worried about these pictures.It was the financial stuff against the big
guy, and they couldn't risk JoeBiden losing. They had to get rid
of Trump. The deep state didits thing, and they all worked together
to convince everybody, though they didn'tconvince us. But you know what I

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mean, to corporate media and bigtech, something was coming. Remember what
the Twitter files show, Matt Tayebeand and the other guys who put this
out there, Schollenberger. The Twitterfile show that the FBI went to Mark
Zuckerberg and to Jack Dorsey, whoowned Twitter at the time, and said,

(01:02:20):
we know that something big is coming. The Russians are coming. The
Russians are coming. We just don'tknow what it is. But they knew
what it was. See they wereif you remember, they were listening to
Rudy Giuliani's phone calls back then inanother case where they never charged Juliani,
but they were listening to him andspying on him. So he was talking
to Miranda Divine about the laptop.So they knew The New York Post was

(01:02:44):
going to write the story about theHunter Biden laptop, and at the very
same time, that they're doing that. They're telling big Tech you know something's
coming. Those Ruskies are at itagain, so get ready. And we'd
really appreciate your help and censoring ifRussians try to infiltrate our election again,
even though they didn't the last time, even though there was no Russia collusion

(01:03:06):
last time. This time around,if it happens, we need you to
do the right thing and censor it. And Big Tech with Big Tech,
was more than happy to oblige.Of course, corporate media was more than
happy to oblige. They had todo whatever they could to stop Trump.
The deep state was terrified of himgetting a second term, and it was
it was mid October when all thiscame out. But they can't stop it

(01:03:32):
now. Now what's on that laptopis now being used as evidence against Hunter
Biden. And here's what I think. Here's what I think. I think
that this is how they get JoeBiden out of the race. If you're
gonna get Joe Biden out of therace, you go to him with evidence
from that laptop and you say,mister President, all this is going to

(01:03:52):
come out of the trial in September. The fact that you're the big guy.
The fact that you're you had thesemeetings and Hunter Biden is using your
name and all this stuff. Thisis all gonna come out, and mister
President, we have to be really, really cognizant of the fact that this
could destroy your reelection chances this comesout in September October, or we have

(01:04:14):
to worry about Hunter flipping. Youknow, I think Hunter Biden sent a
very a very veiled threat when hesaid my father was never financially involved in
my business. I think I thinkthat was a that was a very veiled
threat. Like I'm more than happyto squeal if I got a squeal.

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So you go, you go tothe you go to Biden, you sit
him down, you show you showhim the evidence. They have it all
now they know what's there. Iactually think this has all worked out already.
I think this is a game.We're watching a game being played here
before our very eyes. If you'regonna switch out Biden, you wait to
the last minute, you wait tothe convention, You do it now,

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and whoever that p person is getssubjected to the scrutiny of being a candidet.
Whereas you do it in August,and now you've got September October to
define that person. And even ifit's say Gavin Newsom, well, yeah,
Gavin Newsom's got a terrible record inCalifornia to go after. But it's
not Biden's record. So haill standup there with his charming good looks and

(01:05:23):
his and his big quaffa hair witha carbon footprint of twenty eight thousand metric
tons of fossil fuels because it's alot of oil to keep that hair down,
a lot of pomade on that baby, you know what I'm saying.
And he'll stand up there and he'llgo, yeah, but but but it's
not my record, and you knowthat Trump will go after him for California,
but you're no longer going after Biden. And there's other scenarios, of

(01:05:46):
course, of other candidates they couldswap in there. I'm not gonna name
names. Some of those people havesaid they have no interest whatsoever in running.
But then again, he got towonder if I mean, if it
saving their country, would they doit because they love their country so much.
Anyway, you wait to the lastpossible minute. So right now,

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in this gun case, the prosecutorsthat want to include messages between Hunter and
witness number three, previously identified bythe Post as his sister in law turned
lover Haley Biden. Well again,I mean to Joe Biden's point, if
you're going to get married, makesure she's got a lot of sisters,
Am I right? You know,if it doesn't work out with the one,

(01:06:32):
they have four others there. I'mjust saying, so in this case,
his sister in law works out,I guess for everybody. Anyway,
they were sent to and from thephone of Hunter's ex wife, Kathleen Buell,
and thus not sink to his zycloudaccount. Don't forget there's also the

(01:06:53):
woman, the professional dancer that HunterBiden knocked up, and now they have
this this little girl who she's aninnocent victim in all this, but the
Biden family completely ignores her and pretendslike she doesn't exist, which is such
a sin. The first son,who was in a Delaware federal courthouse today
for his pre trial conference, oneday after attending a White House state dinner,

(01:07:15):
which is another thing that Democrats can'tunderstand. They're all saying, like,
why do you keep bringing Hunter aroundthe White House? And how is
it that every time he leaves wefind cocaine. And I've said this before
too. You know that poor dogCommander who's biting all the Secret Service agents,
that dog was coked out of hismind. You heard of Cocaine bear
or Cocaine White House dogs. That'swhat happened here. I mean, Commander's

(01:07:41):
walking around and why the south Lawney'ssniffing it Cocaine's you know, I mean,
and then he starts biting people.It's not his fault. Cocaine Bear
went crazy. Cocaine White House dogalso went crazy. I'm just you know,
saying that. So they have allthe evidence on him. Now the
laptop that we were told didn't exist, that was rushing information. And when
he stood on stage with Donald Trumpand said, fifteen national security experts have

(01:08:04):
all came out and said that thatlaptop is Russian disinformation, blah blah blah.
Well, it's now being used asevidence against hunter Biden. And you
know as well as I do,that there's stuff on there that implicates Joe
And if there wasn't, we wouldnot have gone through this whole thing.
Back in October of twenty twenty,of telling everybody the laptop was Russian disinformation,

(01:08:26):
they knew it was on it,they knew it implicated Joe, and
they didn't care because they had toget Trump out of the White House.
So they went along with covering upfor there the former vice president, hiding
his crimes from the American people justto get Trump out. That's what our
deep state did. That's what ourFBI or CIA or national intelligence people,

(01:08:47):
that's what they did. Well,they can't do it now because we know
it's on the laptop now and allthat stuff is going to come out.
And the way that I know,the proof that I have that Joe Biden
is implicated is the reason is becauseof the reason why they went to such

(01:09:09):
great lengths to tell you it wasRussian disinformation. They wouldn't do that over
Hunter Biden. Newdie Picks. It'sthe Dana Show. It's me. Rich
is the only in for Dana.We're coming right back. Follow Dana on
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superpower. All Right, it's theDana Show. Let me get a lot

(01:09:31):
to chat about in the next hour, including where things go with the Trump
case after Memorial Day. But it'stime to talk about this guy. Let's
do it. It's his laugh missionto make bad decisions. It's time for
Florida man. Yeah. So thisFlorida man is actually a priest and he

(01:09:54):
bit a church goer while trying toreceive Holy communion. It's a very very
odds, but police are investigating anincident that enfolded a Catholic church and Sunday
where a priest allegedly bit a churchgoer because she was trying to receive the
Holy Communion in an improper way.It took place at Saint Thomas Aquinas Church
and they filed an affidavid of prosecutionsummary against the priest, which will be

(01:10:16):
forward to the State Attorney's office forreview. The priest refused to give her
the communion and gave her a blessinginstead, saying she didn't follow the proper
steps necessary to receive Holy Communion.And then I guess, something happened and
she tried to take it, andthat led to the priest biting her.

(01:10:40):
I guess. But the woman shovedthe priest and then grabbed the bull that
contained the communion wafers and then triedto eat him. And then the priest
considered it to be sacrilegious, sohe bit her. He said, I
recognize that I bid her. I'mnot denying that. They have the video
of it. And then you know, it was sort of a disaster.
Anyway. You don't see that everyday, you know, biting priests.

(01:11:00):
You just don't see that every day. A Florida man chugs a beer in
front of the cops after throwing bottlesoff the balcony. According to deputies,
this was in Fort Myers Beach,if Florida. Man was arrested after staff
of the Margaritaville Resort in Fort MyersBeach show deputies he was throwing beer bottles
off a fourth floor balcony over theweekend. According to an arrest report from

(01:11:20):
the Lee County Sheriff's Office, twentythree year old Connor Thurman, whose room
is located just above the hotel's valetparking area, threw a beer bottle from
his balcony around one thirty am.When the officials try to knock on his
door, a security guard had toyell to him he was sitting on his
balcony and then he chugged a beerin front of the cops because I mean,

(01:11:41):
what are you gonna do let thebeer go to waste, of course,
not so you gotta chug it?What are you gonna? I mean,
that's a duh. And finally,this Florida man steals a vehicle and
then calls the owner before getting busted. Yeah, this genius. He actually
called her to report the theft.He stole the car and let the woman
know that that he stole it,which I think is very considerate. You're

(01:12:02):
gonna steal a car, could youat least be kind and considerate enough to
just, you know, let theowner know? All right? Third hour
of the Dana Show, straight aheadwith me Rich is the only in for
Dana? What's next for Donald Trump? In court? Straight ahead? And
then the question is does Joe Bidenhave any superfans? Well, actually,
the Daily Show found of Biden's superfan believe it or not. Welcome back

(01:12:25):
to the Dana Show. It's meRich is the only in for Dana.
Great to be with you today onthis Friday, pre Memorial Day weekend.
As we begin the busy travel weekend, they say it's gonna be very busy,
and of course gas prices start togo up, and that's why Biden
just tapped the Strategic Petroleum Reserve againto try to lower gas prices in another

(01:12:45):
election year gimmick. But I'll tellyou the Bronx rally, the Trump had
raised a lot of alarms for Democrats. I think this is what les led
to Nate Silver coming out and saying, Democrats really need to think about getting
rid of this guy, really gotto think about swapping Biden out for somebody.
He's not doing well. I mean, he's not doing well polling wise.

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It's bad, It's really bad.Here's CNN their data guy Harry Enton
raising me laarm and why Trump's Bronxrally could spell serious trouble for Joe Biden.
Cut twenty three. Guys, ifyou just put this newspaper up on
the screen. Look, this isDonald Trump's hometown paper, the New York

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Post. He got the headline thathe won out of this and this is
something that Trump is so important tohim. But it's more than that.
Kay, Look at the Katona Parkarea right the Krotona Park precinc where that
rally was held yesterday. It's amajority Hispanic precinct. And I want you
to take a look essentially at theelection results over the last few cycles,
and what you would see there isessentially say that, look, this is
a very Democratic precinct, right,but look at the margin trend line here

(01:13:50):
you see Obama ninety four, Obamaninety six, Clinton ninety two. Biden
won it, but by only sixtynine points. There's a only why is
that important? Because look at that, that's twenty three percentage points less than
Hillary Clinton went it. Buy thisis a sign of the Hispanic movement that
we saw last cycle, right wherewe saw although Hispanics still favored the Democratic

(01:14:13):
candidate Joe Biden, they were lesslikely to favor him than they did Hillary
Clinton or Barack Obama both times.And it's not just there that happened.
We saw in Hispanic precincts and countiesacross the country, from southeast Florida,
southern Texas, even in the LosAngeles area. Not good, not good,
not so good. And of coursea big part of this is the

(01:14:33):
economy. As you just heard Danatalking about in the opening, it's a
big part of the economy. Higherfood prices. And I couldn't believe when
the data came out in fast foodhow much things have gone up, Like
a cheeseburger for McDonald's gonna have twohundred percent since twenty nineteen, chicken nuggets.
Those things really impact the middle class, they really do, and they

(01:14:55):
also impact people on the lower partof the economic ladder as well. Affect
everybody, and you can't spin yourway out of that. You know,
in politics, you can spin alot of things. You can't spin how
people feel when they're at the grocerycheckout line and they're going, are you
freaking kidding me? Are you kiddingme? When they go through the McDonald's
drive through or the Chick fil Adrive through or a Taco bell and they
get to the drive through and theguy says, you know, it's sixty

(01:15:18):
seven dollars, like what they usedto be taking a nice out, like
a nice night out to dinner.Now it's just McDonald's for the family.
Higher food prices are going to bealso burning a hole in your wallet this
Memorial Day weekend. You'll you'll bespending more this Memorial Day weekend on just

(01:15:38):
about everything cut eighteen, I meanon hosting a barbecue this Memorial Day weekend.
Higher food prices may burn a holein your wallet. The prices on
barbecue basics are higher this year thanlast year. According to the latest data
from this Bureau of Labor Statistics,the national average of a pound of uncooked
ground beef is five dollars fifty sixcents. That's about thirty one cents higher

(01:16:00):
than last year when prices were atfive twenty five. Now, on average,
a beef steak will cost you aboutten dollars seventy five cents a pound,
compared to around nine to ninety sixlast year. But hey, listen,
don't worry about it, because theWhite House is expanding their Environmental Justice
Council, so that'll solve all theproblems. The Biden administration has supplemented its

(01:16:20):
prestigious group of advisors for its Greenagenda, so I don't sweat it,
don't worry about it. And ina sign that the green agenda is not
popular in Pennsylvania, the must winstate of Pennsylvania, where I broadcast from
on talkery to twelve ten to PhDevery afternoon from three to seven pm.

(01:16:40):
Senator Bob Casey is up for reelection. Now. Casey is a guy you
never hear from. You've probably neverheard his name. His father was a
was a great guy. He's agreat governor. There's a famous case Casey
the Planned Parenthood. He was oneof the probably the last pro life Democrat
to ever be governor of a andhe sued because, I mean they he

(01:17:01):
tried to stop funding Planned Parenthood andthey sued, and it was a major
Supreme Court case, almost overturned Roev. Wade. But the lesser Casey,
as Bob Casey Jr. Is known, he disappears and he only shows
his face every six years, andthat's when you know he sees his shadow
and he's got an election. Otherwisehe's gone. The guy running against him,
Dave McCormick, has a really strongchance of winning. And with Trump

(01:17:26):
on the bowot and McCormick, Imean, it's Pennsylvania. Is I think
it's going to go I think itgoes red. I really do. I
really believe that. I'm not justsaying that. There was a story in
the Wall Street Journal a while agoand had all these guys who work in
the natural gas sector, and oneof the guys in the article admitted that
he voted for Biden because he didn'tlike Trump's tweets. And now he realizes
what a mistake he made, andhe said, I will never vote Democrat

(01:17:48):
again. They are trying to takeour jobs. Now. Bob Casey just
came out today against the Biden planto ban now natural gas stoves. Remember,
it was a big conspiracy theory,the whole idea that the Democrats were
going to ban gas stoves. Theywere coming for your gas stoves. You

(01:18:10):
remember how everybody said that was aconspiracy theory. Only we found that it
was true that the little troll,Richard Trumpka Junior, who runs the National
Consumer Product Safety Commission, which soundslike something that of a communist country and
should be disbanded. No, heactually wrote a memo saying that his agency
had the authority to ban gas stovesbecause of asthma. And you know what,

(01:18:32):
he's not wrong on the fact thatthey have the authority to ban them,
because sadly, we have turned overso much of our country to the
executive branch, where the executive branchnow just makes rules and edicts bans things.
They have the same weight as alaw passed by Congress, but they're
not passed by Congress. They're rulesmade by bureaucrats. Hopefully the Supreme Court

(01:18:56):
will remedy this in the Chevron case. Which be decided on this summer,
but in the meantime, Senator BobCasey this is from the Delaware Valley Journal,
was one of three Democrats to sidewith the Republicans and passed a resolution
to block the Biden Administration's new efficiencyrules on gas furnaces. But in twenty

(01:19:18):
twenty one, Casey voted against themeasure. This was a measure to protect
consumer choice and stop Biden from banninggas appliances, and Casey voted against that.
But in a fifty to forty fivevote, the resolution declares Congress's opposition

(01:19:39):
to new Biden administration regulations that wouldeffectively ban non condensing gas furnace models,
and Casey voted with the majority,but he was one of only three Democrats
to vote yes. That tells youhow incredibly unpopular the green nonsense is with

(01:20:00):
voters, particularly in an energy richstate like Pennsylvania, where natural gas is
key. Donald Trump is going towin Pennsylvania in part because of the fact
that Joe Biden has put in anexport ban on natural gas. Natural gas
is huge. It's Pennsylvani's number oneeconomy outside of agriculture, and these guys
in the energy sector get it,you know, they get it now.

(01:20:21):
The Democrats are coming for natural gasjust like they came after coal, just
like they're coming after oil, andthey're not going to be fooled this time
around. They're not. The otherthing too, is, in addition to
food prices and skyrocketing energy prices,tried buying a home. I mean,
good luck with that. In ourcase, we bought a home recently and

(01:20:46):
it was a situation where when wesold the house we were living in,
we got an offer in twenty fourhours, all cash. I think we
got I don't know, seventy fivethousand dollars above asking price, and you
know, we took it right away. The house we bought was more expensive
than the house we were in,but we needed to expand we have three
kids and so you know, weneeded more room. And we were fortunate

(01:21:08):
because the house that we bought wason the market for a couple of weeks.
Typically houses go you know, intwenty four hours, forty eight hours,
I mean, you know, sowe were able to get a house
we could afford. But we're payingmore in the interest rates for the mortgage
because the interest rates are so muchhigher than the one we had had we
had a two point five percent interestrate, and now I think we're at
six and a half percent or something. So for a lot of people,

(01:21:30):
they can't move because there's no inventory, which then affects prices because if there's
no inventory, but you have alot of demand, that means every time
a house goes on the market,typically it's gone like that, and it
goes for a higher than asking price, way much higher, and people are
priced out of the market. Andthen you add in the interest rates for
the mortgages, and it's just it'sa it's a So people are stuck and
they can't leave. So I getseen in a Bronx tale. Now youse

(01:21:54):
can't leave. Here's NBC reporting onhow unaffordable it is to buy a home
in this country in Joe Biden's AmericaCut nineteen. Since twenty twenty two,
it's been harder to buy a homethan any other period in the last decade.
The index accounts for factors like medianhome sale prices, which over the
last year are up six percent,mortgage rates also climbing around seven percent for

(01:22:17):
a thirty year fixed but also accountsfor available inventory still tight but getting a
little better. Up almost thirteen percentnationwide. The NBC News Home Buyer Index
grades the overall difficulty of home buyingon a scale from zero to most difficult
one hundred. In April, thatmeasure was eighty two point four, near
an all time high. Translation,the average home is almost seventy thousand dollars

(01:22:41):
more than the average household can afford. That's Joe Biden's America. In addition
to that, of course, wehave people who are coming into this country
illegally, the invasion of the southernborder, something Trump talked about during his
Bronx rally, and something a lotof the voters who you heard from who
slamm this administration, and a bigconcern of theirs, was in fact immigration

(01:23:03):
illegal immigration. Well, here's amigrant and a legal immigrant who tells,
uh Fox's I think it's Bill millusion, if I'm not mistaken, just how
easy it is to cross the southernborder. He's a keke no problemo cut
seventeen. Did you have to paya cartel? Yes? How much at
ten thousand, ten thousand? Yeah? Yes. In fact, the American

(01:23:23):
people is right, completely true.Who come into this country they don't know.
Okay, I'm good but how ifthey're not good, how they have
to killer cycle? But else andno gun off ted white and like like,
no no secret to be, nosecret to shake, no background check,
no security check, no background check. You're worrying about who's crossing the
border. Yes, yes, ofcourse to sound like people modeled normal?

(01:23:45):
Yeah, you know, is thatwhat goes? And that's what Trump said,
you know, he said in Israel. He said that that African Americans
and Hispanic Americans are impacted the mostby a legal immigration. And he's right,
He's absolutely right by that. Byron, Donald's a man stood up yesterday
at the rally in the Bronx andmade a bold declaration. Cut fifteen.

(01:24:11):
Listen. The word is is thatDonald D. Trump's gonna be here in
a couple of minutes. That's theworld. And so I think it's really
important right now to let all ofNew York know that the Bronx is now
Maga country. There you go,Maga country, all right. So Biden's
got problems and the economy is thebig one, no question about it.

(01:24:33):
We got a lot more to comeon the data show our Friday pre Memorial
Day edition, Don't go away,don't let fomo get the best of you.
Stay in the loop and ahead ofthe curve by following Dana on Apple,
Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, we got to chat
about the Trump trial, which we'llresume on Tuesday. Where do things go

(01:24:57):
from here? I'll have a gueston the show around two thirty five or
so to break it down for us. Now that the judge has come up
with the instructions to the jewelry,what's next? But first I got five
things for you. Let's do it. And now all of the news you
would probably miss, it's time forDana's quick five Bark Air Bark Bark,

(01:25:18):
not as in tree bark, butas in doggie bark. Bark Air launches
as the first ever airline catered todogs. We're here to revolutionize flying for
dogs, a one percent totally realairline for dogs. The company's website says
it's launching on Thursday, and it'sreal and it is meant for people who
are tired of having their dogs crammedinto crates in cargo, but it does

(01:25:43):
want to put them front and center, and it's probably going to be for
people who, you know, wegot a little bit of Cashish. No
one under eighteen years old is allowedto fly on bark air. A woman
was arrested for battering a man witha cinnamon roll. Florida woman shocking I
was arrested Tuesday night after allegedly strikinga man in the neck with a thrown

(01:26:04):
cinnamon roll. Those things can hurt, you know, especially if they're hot
out of the oven. But whata waste of a perfectly good cinnamon roll.
And of course has happened at atransitional housing facility in Saint Petersburg,
Florida. I don't know if theicing really got to him or not,
could have had an allergic reaction.You just never know. This is a

(01:26:24):
fascinating story in England and probably wherewe're headed in this country. A woman
was fined two hundred euros by thecouncil warden for accidentally dropping McDonald's chips which
were eaten by seagulls. Yeah,I don't know. That's two hundred pounds,
I guess because it's the UK.I don't know. Anyway, she

(01:26:45):
drops some chips, the seagulls atethem. You're not supposed to feed the
seagulls. So she was fined.Actually I'm okay with that only because the
seagulls are basically rats with wings andpeople do feed them on the beach and
you shouldn't do that because these annoyingthings keep coming after you. I would
I'd be okay with shooting him onthe beach. You know, I'm saying.
I think it'd be a fun activity. You could raise some money.

(01:27:05):
I think the boardwalk games instead ofjust shooting water through a peep and shoot
a seagull. I'm just, youknow, saying, I know that the
animal cruelty people may not like it. But speaking of animal cruelty, an
ambulance collided with a moose early Sundayin Canada. But here's the thing.
It was responding to another crash alsoinvolving a moose, and a man crashed

(01:27:27):
into a moose, and then asthe ambulance responded to go save the man
who crashed into the moose, itcrashed into another moose. Because that's Canada
and they've got a lot of moose. I don't know if it's if it's
moose eye or I'm not quite sure, but sadly, the man did die
after his vehicle collide with a moosein northern New Brunswick, Canada. They
are beautiful, magnificent creatures. Ifyou ever get to see one in person,

(01:27:49):
they are. But they're big.So how you miss one? I
don't really know. I'm not sure. But anyway, all right, coming
up the Trump Trial, where dowe go from here? Back in court
on Tuesday, the drors after along break. What will they remember?
What will the instructions be? Whatare closing arguments going to be? Like?
Where does this case go now?And what's the latest with Georgia.

(01:28:13):
We'll talk about all these things straightahead. It is the Dana Show.
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(01:28:35):
Yes we will. Welcome back tothe Dana Show. It's me Rich
is the only in for Dana whereI normally do the daily afternoon show when
Talk Greade air twelve ten to WPHDin Philadelphia. It's a worldly weekend.
But before you know it, thecameras will be back on Reporters will be
outside the courthouse, and Trump willbe back in court closing arguments next week.

(01:28:55):
Here to help discuss it with meis a guy who was a prosecutor
is now a criminal defense attorney.David Gelman, counselor. Thank you for
making time today on this nationally syndicatedprogram. How are you, hey,
Rich, I'm good, Thanks forhaving me. How you doing doing all
right? I know you've been aroundthe country talking on behalf of the Trump
campaign about this issue of this courtcase in New York. Let's just get

(01:29:18):
to the basics of what we canexpect on Tuesday when everybody comes back.
Now, has the judge officially giventhe jury the instructions or will he do
that on Tuesday? How does theprocess work? So yeah, he will
be giving them on Tuesday. Whatwill happen, Rich, is first the
defense Donald Trump's attorneys, They're goingto be giving their closing arguments, so

(01:29:43):
anticipate I'd say forty five minutes toan hour for them. After that,
the prosecution goes and they're going togive their closing arguments again another forty five
minutes to an hour. After that, the judge is going to give the
jury instructions to the jury, andthat's going to be very important because that's
going to number one, lay outexactly what the jury has to determine whether

(01:30:05):
Donald Trump is innocent or guilty.But number two, and the more important
thing is there's talking. There's theintent aspect. Did Donald Trump actually do
what they are alleging he did ordid he say he did certain things?
So the intent aspect of the juryinstructions are going to be critical in this

(01:30:29):
and that'll take probably about an hour. After that part, then it's going
to be all hands on deck andthe jury is going to go into deliberation
room and they're going to be deliberatingand debating, and who knows how long
that could take. Could take aday, it could take a couple of
days. Now, this is fascinating. The jury instructions themselves, when the
judge delivers them to the jury,you're saying that process alone could take an

(01:30:54):
hour. Oh yes, for sure. Well, number one, you got
to remember there's about thirty four feloniesthat President Trump is being charged with.
But number two, these jury instructionsare very complex. So look, unless
you're a nerd who went to lawschool, like me, only don't You're
probably not going to understand most ofthem. So the judge really has to

(01:31:16):
break them down so like an eightyear old can understand them. And I'm
being one hundred percent honest and noteven being bunny about that part. So
there's so many different areas in thesejury instructions that legally the judge has to
say. Now, the funny thingis Rich and you and I have talked
about this before. Look, I'vedone a ton of jury trials and I've

(01:31:38):
had jury's jurors tell me after trialsthey contacted me and said, you know
about the jury instructions. They don'teven remember them. As soon as they
get into that deliberation room, afterlike a minute or two and they start
talking amongst their co jurors, theyforget the jury instructions. So they hopefully
they'll remember them, but there's agood possibility that once they get in there

(01:32:02):
and start talking, they're going tobe like, what jury instructions? In
your experience, David Gelman, asboth a prosecutor and as a criminal defense
attorney, do drawors get swayed byclosing arguments? I mean, this is
a long break for them. They'recoming back to court on Tuesday after a
long holiday weekend. For many ofthem, they may have already decided in
their mind whether Trump's guilty or not. But how often do drawors get swayed

(01:32:28):
by those closing arguments? I knowin movies and TV shows, it's very
dramatic, and you know, youhave these big sweeping moments where the juriors,
you know, go into the roomand they've been completely seduced by what
either the prosecution or the defense hadto say in those closing arguments. But
but really, how often do theymove drawors? You know, rich If
it's a close case, then closingarguments I think are key. And don't

(01:32:51):
get me wrong, I think closingarguments are very important in anything, in
any case, But in a closecase, they're really going to hound in
and they're going to pay attention.If it's not a close case, if
they've already made up their mind,which in this situation, I have a
pretty sky suspicion just like you,that they probably have already made up their

(01:33:12):
mind, especially having six days off, So I don't think closings are going
to be as important if you will, you know, and they're the prosecution
and the defense, they're both goingto just kind of summarize their whole case
in forty five minutes to an hour, So that alone is kind of difficult
to do. But remember you don'tagain six days off. They've had plenty

(01:33:33):
of time to think about this.And I'm sure even though they're not allowed
to be looking at TV or radioor talking to people, you know,
you've got to be, you know, a moron to not think that they
aren't doing that. So I thinkthey have a good idea. I was
going to say, I mean,yours are sequestered, but but they're home,
right, I mean, they're homewith their families. They're they're like

(01:33:54):
everybody else now, enjoying their MemorialDay weekend. They're going to have friends
over, They're going to be talking, They're going to see things on TV.
So I guess the next question Ihave is during the closing arguments,
are is either side allowed to reintroduceanything or or I should say, introduced
anything for the first time? Oris it literally only things you've discussed so
far in the trial. No,so if they have not introduced that already,

(01:34:18):
that cannot be introduced at closing.Closing is just a summation really of
everything that you have said and doneand uncovered in the actual trial. So
if they try to bring in anythingthat will be objected to immediately, now
look, I'm going to have thisis going to be very interesting. The
prosecution, they're very objection heavy,so meaning you know, they objected a

(01:34:42):
ton of times when Robert Costello,the attorney for Michael Cohen, was testifying,
if you object in an opening orclosing, that is the jury is
never liked that, and judges don'tlike that either. Although this judge he's
very biased, so he may enjoyyou the part execution objecting, but I'll
be very curious to see if theydo object because that will be very telling

(01:35:04):
in my opinion. Yeah, Imean the point you made about the judge,
Judge Murshawan, and I agree withyou. I mean, this guy
certainly seems incredibly biased towards the prosecution. Does not seem like he's doing his
job of making sure that the rightsof the defendant are secure here. But
he's got to be aware of thefact that if this jury comes back with

(01:35:26):
a guilty verdict, and I'd beshocked if they did, but that there's
going to be an appeal, anda lot of the appeal would rest on
procedural issues that happened during the courseof the trial. Correct. Yes,
that's one hundred percent correct. Andthere's a ton of procedural issues that have
occurred that should have already either triggereda mistrial or the judge should have done

(01:35:46):
that already. However, you andI both understand that, and I'm sure
the viewer and the listeners here understandas well. They don't care about this
coming back and being remanded and reversed. All they care about is one thing,
having a G in front of PresidentTrump's name, a guilty guilty play
there, or a guilty verdict.That's all they care about. They know

(01:36:11):
that this is going to have tocome back in the event that there is
a guilty place or guilty finding.However, I agree, I don't think
there's going to be a guilty findingin Manhattan. So I think this is
going to be a good, goodresolution for President Trump when and if the
verdict does happen. I would think, David Gelman, I mean, my
spidy sense tells me we're probably lookingat a hung jurry here. I have

(01:36:33):
a hard time believing there won't beat least one person on that jelry who
just thinks Trump's guilty of something andthat this is their way to get justice.
It's Manhattan we're talking about here,it's not Staten Island. And I
also have a hard time believing thatyou're going to be able to convince twelve
people here that he's committed a crimewhen I don't even know what the crime

(01:36:55):
is. I don't think anybody knowswhat the crime is. So I think
a hung Jurry is a win.And then if that happens, I mean
theoretically Alvin Brand could bring charges again. I mean I doubt he would,
but you never know what this guy, he's a lunatic. But hung jurry
is win, right, you know, Spider Man, You're exactly correct.
I don't think that there is numberone this should have this should be not

(01:37:17):
guilty, but there but because thereis reasonable doubt, and reasonable doubt is
if you have any inkling that PresidentTrump did not do what he is alleged
to what it's alleged that he's done. And there's so much reasonable doubt here
it's incredible. But because like yousaid, we are in Manhattan, we
are in very blue territory and it'sit's not you know, the other boroughs,

(01:37:41):
just Manhattan. I have to thinkyou're correct when when you're when we're
saying, yeah, there has tobe at least one person who is being
true to themselves and really, youknow, it's being honest and says you
know what, I understand. Imight not like President Trump, and I
might not like what he's doing orsaying all, but there is no way
he did this or you know,because to Michael Cohen is a liar,
and you know he can't even tellthe truth when he's trying to tell the

(01:38:04):
truth. I don't believe what happenedhere, and I cannot vote to convict
President Trump. All right, Nowhere's the question, and this is this
is a this is a close onehere. Who was worse for the prosecution,
Stormy Daniels or Michael Cohen? Youknow what, I don't think it's
close at all. Michael Cohen.I mean this guy when he walked into

(01:38:27):
the when he walked into the courthouseand put his hand on the Bible,
I'm surprised there wasn't a fire.This guy cannot tell the truth if his
life depended on it. If youremember the last day that he testified.
The first thing that Todd Blanche askedand was have you spoken to the press
about anything that you testified about already? And he said no, and Todd

(01:38:50):
Blanche asked him again, are yousure about that? He said, well,
I did have a couple of reporterscalled me and asked me if I'm
doing all right? I mean,the first question. He can't even get
through the first question. It bagglesmy mind. I'm telling you, he
was a train wreck for the prosecution. If they they you know, they
knew he was not going to begood, I think. But if they

(01:39:12):
knew he wasn't going to be thatgood, oh my goodness, I don't
think they would have brought the case. I really don't. I mean,
how about the fact with the hatred, how about the fact that he admitted
that he stole money from Trump?And I mean that to me, that
right there is it's over my eyes. I mean, there's no credibility.
Guy had no credibility going in.But then you find out he's a liar
and a thief. It's a greatcombination, isn't it. I mean,

(01:39:38):
And I don't think prosecution knew eitherthat he stole money. I think they
found out just like we all foundout, because if they did, they
probably would have brought it up aheadof time and kind of taken the sting
out of the cross examination part ofit. So that really makes me think
that they didn't even know about it, which is, you know, not
good on their part for their investigationmy opinion. I mean, you got

(01:40:00):
to think to yourself that this thisentire case and the salaciousness of Stormy Daniels
and you know, talking about condomuse and everything like that. I mean,
you got to think that that wasthe whole point, which was the
process being the punishment to just tryto embarrass Trump and try to humiliate him
in court. I know that theydo want to find him guilty obviously,

(01:40:24):
but the process itself, I mean, it took it off. It took
him off the campaign trail. AOCsaid the choie part out loud when she
said, he's got this basically,you know, electronic ankle monitor on.
It can't go anywhere, so he'sgot to be in the South Bronx.
She said the quiet part out loud. This trial was designed to keep him
off the field in the middle ofthe game, so they've achieved that.
But if Trump walks out of therea free man, I mean, in

(01:40:45):
Trump's way, I mean, that'sgoing to be spun as such a victory.
If they come back and find himguilty. Knowing Trump, He's still
going to spin that as a win, because that's just the way he is.
And I think his supporters are justgoing to double down and say,
this is ridiculous. You've got thisRose funded prosecutor here, and this is
an outrageous outcome. And either eitherway, I don't see even a guilty

(01:41:08):
verdict, which I think is unlikely, But I don't see that hurting him
with his supporters and with even swingvoters. I don't think people are paying
attention. John Fetterman said that quietpart out loud when he said, I
don't even think people understand what thiscase is about. Yeah, well,
you know what Fetterman. You know, Uncle Fester's right, and I also
agree. You know, I alsoagree with your analysis. Either way,

(01:41:29):
you know, Donald Trump is goingto make lemonade out of eleven. It's
going to happen. You see ittime and time again. Look at this
trial, perfect example. They wantedto take him off of the campaign by
doing this for a lection interference.What does he do? He goes to
a bodega, he goes to groundzero, to construction sites, he has
to rally in the Bronx, andhe's getting more publicity now than he probably

(01:41:50):
ever would have. So I thinkthat this is a game changer, is
an absolute win, and they're seeingthat what's going on right now is that
politicization of the DOJ specifically to goafter President Trump to make sure that he
doesn't win the election. But it'sbackfying one hundred and ten percent on them
right now because everybody sees at numberone, the trial, there's nothing there

(01:42:13):
and that New York City and AlvinBragg instead of going after Donald Trump,
maybe go after the actual criminals,making the New York City not a very
safe place to go right now.So I agree with you one hundred percent.
This is going to be a winone way or another. Yeah,
well, say, my friend,have a great Memorial Day weekend. Gelman
Law Firm dot com. Gel Gelmanlawfirmdot com. David Gelman, thanks for

(01:42:35):
joining me here on the Dana Show. I appreciate it. Hey, thanks
for having me. Rich be goodand we'll be right back to close it
out before we head out for thelong weekend. Don't go away. Whether
you're a policy wonk, a newsjunkie, or simply someone hungry for insightful
discourse, that Dana Show podcast hasyour back. Follow Dana on Apple,
Spotify, or wherever you get yourpodcasts. It's been a great time.

(01:43:00):
I'm filling in for Dana today.I hope you and your family have a
wonderful Memorial Day weekend. As soonas I sign off here, I normally
would be doing my show in Phillyfrom three to seven, but since the
kids are off from school today,we're gonna do a little family day.
Should be a nice weekend, AndI said earlier, please take a moment
to remember those who've given the ultimatesacrifice for our country, for our freedom,

(01:43:21):
because we can't have a free countrywithout people who are willing to serve,
and for many of them, theultimate sacrifice is it's something their family
has to deal with and go through, and it's something we have to remember
on Monday, on Memorial Day.So let's do that. But let's also
have a lot of fun and enjoyour time with our family and friends,
because that's really important to do.As well, I know that it's pool

(01:43:44):
season, so we don't have apool, but we belong to a pool,
so we be taking the kids atthe pool tomorrow. I just know
it's warm. So my daughter,she's seven, she doesn't like going in
water that's cold. So it's alwaysa situation. We ever get there,
and then she winds up sitting inthe hot tub the whole time. But
fingers fingers crossed at the pools warmready, I don't know. I mean
the Northeast. It's been a littletricky for you. If you're listening to

(01:44:05):
show in Florida or Texas, yougotta speed ill. Speaking of Florida,
we did spend a week down therefor spring break. We went down to
Marathon Key. I love the Keys. Oh it's great. I just love
the freedom. Speaking of Florida,the leading choice, the leading odds are
on Ron DeSantis for being Trump's pickfor VP. The problem with that,

(01:44:26):
though, is there's an electoral collegeproblem if you pick somebody from the same
state. But that's for another show. In the meantime, Steve, let's
talk about something stupid, shall we. Oh, Man, if you haven't
seen this yet, this is probablythe worst dands I was gonna do something
political, but it's the end ofthe week, so let's just do something
happen here. This might have beenthe worst answer in political in jeopardy history,
so excuse me a little fortune history. He wanted to spin the wheel

(01:44:47):
in this one in tomorrows right inthe butt. No Blake that says the
best. Yeah, yeah. Andthe amazing part about that is that they
kept it in in posts. Itwasn't like it was a live show.

(01:45:09):
They could have edited it out,but they kept it in. Gotta love
Pat stage Jack. Have a greatweekend. God bless and thank you for
listening. Following me on Twitter atrich Zioli. Thank you.
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