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December 29, 2025 105 mins
Rich Zeoli sits in for Dana. An independent citizen journalist goes viral for exposing the massive fraud in Minnesota’s daycare system. Gov. Tim Walz ignores questions about the Billions in fraud that is happening under his watch. Democrats are already planning to impeach Trump if they take over power. An experiment is conducted involving an AI office vending machine at the Wall Street Journal office that ended up giving in to ridiculous demands including staging a coup against their boss and losing hundreds in profits. President Trump hosts Zelensky following his phone call with Putin. Is there an end in sight? The FBI announces their investigation into the Minnesota daycare fraud scandal. A Somali on TikTok says people who are concerned about the scandal have no life and are depressed. Did Gavin Newsom’s COVID lockdowns forever change the production of movies?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Somali fraud scandal blowing up. Oh my god, what
has been uncovered here is just going to blow your mind.
Welcome to the Dana Show. Danis off. Obviously it is
that weird week between Christmas and New Year's but it's
me Rich Zioli from Philadelphia with you today, and great
to be with you. I'm telling you, I mean, just
blown away by the amount of fraud discovered. The good

(00:22):
news is Tim Waltz has finished. There's no coming back
from this. Politically speaking, you can't come back from this.
It's so bad because all this happened right under the
guy's nose, and they ignored it because they were afraid
of being called racist. They were afraid of being called
and I think the level of incompetence here and theft

(00:42):
of people's tax dollars, it's infuriating to me, it really is.
I mean, we saw a lot of this during COVID
when people were getting COVID relief funds, and then we
thought it was over, We thought that it had been
exposed and then that was the end of it. But
every day it's like a trickle with Minnesota every single day,
and what you have, you have organized crime, by these
Somali gangs and the Somali gang leaders, and they ripped

(01:06):
off autistic kids, homeless people. I had to laugh because
Tim Waltz's daughter on Christmas Eve, I think it was
put out this long, rambling TikTok video and she's going
on about all the people she's praying for, and I'm thinking,
why don't you pray for all the people your father
ripped off by allowing all this fraud to happen under
his watch. And she talked about in that video, Sugar,

(01:28):
about the unhoused. She said, you know, I'm praying for
the unhoused. That's the left's new wave of saying homeless people.
So they can't say homeless for some reason I don't
knowest so they say unhoused, which to me just reminds
me of a bad horror movie, like the Undead. It's
the unhoused. They ripped off kids, they ripped off, the
daycare centers, they ripped off and what they kept saying,

(01:49):
and what Tim Waltz kept saying, was well, you know,
without these daycare centers, without these childcare people, we can't
have a state. So we're gonna pump more money into
this more money, and as the Minneapolis and Minnesota media
just ignored this for years and years, you have an
independent journalist coming forward, a kid in his early twenties

(02:12):
who comes out of nowhere, his name is Nick Shirley,
comes out of nowhere and exposes all this, which is
also a really great sign that citizen journalism is thriving
now more than ever as the corporate legacy media continues
to implode, and it's imploding everywhere. It really is. You
have people with their phones just going out there and

(02:34):
doing the work of actual journalism. And this kid exposes
this Minnesota daycare fraud one hundred and ten million dollars.
The FBI is all over it now, Cash Betel coming
out and saying that we're going to have more resources
devoted to going after these people, and people have already
been locked up, and more people are going to be
locked up, and they're saying that at the end of
the day, this is going to be over a billion dollars,

(02:55):
a billion dollars in fraud. I mean, it's infuriating tax payer.
I hate paying taxes. That we all hate paying taxes,
but a big thing what they tell us all the
time is, well, you know, a lot of your tax dollars.
They go to the military, and they go to the
needy people, people who just can't get by otherwise without
your money. So you have to do it. It's no
bless oblige. You've got money, so you've got the government

(03:18):
has to take it from you and then redistribute it
to all these people who apparently need it. And then
you find out that these people they swarm in and
they descend on these places and they know they can
rip it off. It actually created fraud tourism, Yes, fraud tourism.
So as we're now in this kind of weird week
between Christmas and New Years where a lot of people
are on vacation and they're touring different places, people were

(03:42):
coming to Minnesota from states like Pennsylvania just so they
could get in on the action, get in on the
action of the fraud. That's how bad it was and
how open it was, and how the conversations about how
easy it was to steal money were happening all over
the place. Meanwhile, Waltz was just running around like a goofball,

(04:02):
busy putting tampons in boys bathrooms, busy running around doing
his bad Richard Simmons impression and not caring. A couple
of reasons why. Number one was I think they were
fine with it. The Somali community in Minnesota has a
ton of political clout. Number two, they were afraid of
being called racist. So be the equivalent of if when

(04:24):
they were going after the mafia years ago, not b
the mafia's real, obviously, but if hypothetically speaking, Lucos and
Ousterer was real when they were going after it, it
would have been the equivalent of saying, well, if you
go after the mob, that just means you hate Italians.
So we're going to threaten you and say that you're
all racist against Italian people, so that you don't crack

(04:45):
down an organize crime. You don't go after the Gambinos,
you don't go after the Goddies, because to do so
would be saying that you hate Italians. And they made
those threats and then a lot of the bureaucrats in
Minnesota just turned around and said, okay, fine. The politicians
of the bureaucrats were like, well, well, we don't want
to be considered we don't want to be racist against
the hard working Somali community. It's it's so funny too

(05:09):
to watch some of these Democrat politicians double down and
their support of the Somali community. The Somalis were ripped off,
like Somali autistic kids were ripped off. Somali unhoused people,
to use the left's term, were ripped off. Somali children
who needed food and childcare were ripped off. But you
can't talk about that, you can't acknowledge that. So we

(05:32):
just have to pretend that this is just some vast
right wing conspiracy because people just woke up one day
and decided that they just hate Somali people. Do you
have to ignore the fraud, You have to ignore the
theft of taxpayer dollars, and you have to ignore people
not getting the services that they were legally entitled to
under the law, so that you are not considered to
be a racist. And obviously, since we don't care about

(05:55):
being called a racist anymore, because it's just such a
tired attack that means absolutely nothing. It's just the kind
of thing that you just you throw it out there
and it's like, uh huh, yeah, no, I know. I've
heard this now a million times about everything, my use
of pronouns, my use of Christmas lights, whether or not
they're all white or not. I mean, I've heard it

(06:16):
in every single way. So if I'm going to talk
about a billion dollars worth of fraud and how people
were ripped off and you want to call me racist
over that, that's just added to the list at this point.
Just add it. We're running, we have a running tally.
I just throw it on there and you're fine. You're good,
You're fine. And it's really fun watching Tim Waltz think
that he can salvage his political career. Do you know

(06:37):
that that guy had ambitions to run for president of
the United States? Because I know you're thinking, like, is
there a goofball society he could be president of? Yes,
yes there is. There certainly is a gigantic Dufis Goofball society.
But in terms of America, no, he has no chance.
It's over for him. And what I can't I still

(06:57):
can't understand why they put this guy. I'm a ticket.
You know, typically you vet these politicians before you would
make them the running mate of the Democrat Party. And
it was all right there, it was under their nose.
It was all happening. There had been reports about it,
just nothing was done about it. There were reports over
the years, and they say that the fraud was evident
two years ago. So what I don't understand is why

(07:20):
they made this guy the vice presidential running mate of
the United States of the Democrat Party when you had
all these other candidates. I'm not saying any of the
other candidates were much better, but at least Josh Shapiro
in Pennsylvania, who I think just didn't want it. I
think he torpedoed his interview with Kamala Harris on purpose
and walked in with all these demands because he knew

(07:40):
that it was a losing ticket and he didn't want
to be attached to that stink. He wanted nothing to
do with that. It's like you find a skunk in
your backyard. You know you're going to have to bring
up a tomade a soup if you go near it,
so you just stay away. Well that's the old Well.
I don't know if it works or not, but I
was always told that tomato soup gets the skunk stink off.
But I don't know what gets the stink off. If

(08:02):
you are on a ticket that is the biggest losing
Democrat ticket in modern political history, and I think Shapiro
saw that and he figured, twenty twenty eight is out
that far away. I'll just stay here and do my
thing and I won't go near that that train wreck.
But you had others, I mean Mark Kelly before he
came out with his video and essentially now told the

(08:23):
military what they already know, which is don't commit a
war crime. Before that, he was considered a contender because
they needed a boring white guy. That was their whole
standard for the ticket. They needed a boring white guy. Well,
he's about as boring as you get. I mean, the
most exciting thing about Mark Kelly is that he was
an astronaut at one point. And now he put out

(08:44):
that video, part of the Seditious Six as they're known,
telling members of the military what they already know and
are told on a daily basis, which is you don't
commit war crimes. And then they said, well, is anybody
telling him to commit war crimes? And it was like no, no,
hypothetically reminding them so that we can get everybody talking
about war crimes, just as a movie comes out about Norremberg.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
No.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I do think that was a big part of it.
I think it was helping to promote the movie Norremberg
which was a kind of an indie I think it
was a major movie, but didn't it kind of have
that indie movie feel, meaning that they knew it wasn't
going to make a lot of money, so they put
out that video to time it with that, because I
remember the women on the View were talking about Norremberg
the movie just as that video about the war crimes

(09:29):
was coming out. They could have gone with Mark Kelly,
but they chose to go with Tim Waltz, even though
this massive fraud scandal was right there under their noses
the entire time, and the level of arrogance and hubris
with these people thinking that they could get away with it. No,
I don't mean the people that committed the fraud. You
expect arrogance and hubrist from that. I mean the people

(09:52):
in government in Minnesota under Tim Waltz's watch, who knew
it was happening and said we're we're going to ignore
it because we don't want to be called racist, and
because we don't want to tick off the Somali community
because God knows how politically powerful they are. So you
had to have this guy Nick Shirley go out there

(10:13):
and expose all this and let's start there. Why don't
we do that? This is a little bit of him.
We got a couple of different clips, kind of short
clips for you. It blew up. I mean this like
millions of views of this guy's videos that he put out,
millions and millions. Fox News picked it up. He's been
on Fox News at least once, maybe twice, and they're
all talking about it over there, because that was another

(10:34):
question people had in social media. They said, well, is
this going to make the leap from X and the
other platforms and actually be covered by a major news
source like Fox News? And yeah, they did, they covered it.
The fact that this kid is able to go out
there in his early twenties and expose this fraud and
then blow up and go viral to the degree where

(10:55):
you're getting tens of millions of views on his videos
says a lot about this journalism today and also the
ability of anyone to be a citizen journalist, which is
a beautiful, beautiful thing. So here's cut six. Hello, we'd
like to ask where's the money's going?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
What do you guys think about the fraud that's taking
place here in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I don't think anybody is enabling fad to have the
whole governor Walls accountable for this.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
What was this money spent?

Speaker 5 (11:19):
One point two six million?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
What was that money?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Sad? Any kids answer the question are their children?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
There's no children inside of building.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Potentially the largest fraud scandal in US history is taking
place in Minnesota, as literally billions of dollars have been
funneled through Somali ran fraudulent businesses, so much fraud it
could actually almost replace the entire GDP of Somalia.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
The entire GDP of Somalia. He went through these daycares,
these daycare centers one hundred and ten million dollars funded,
and he found blackedout windows, misspelled signs, and no kids.
No kids. Now, if you are a parent whoever sent
your kids to daycare, you realize that one of the
frustrating things about daycare is how many kids are there?

(12:07):
Sometimes too many. The ratio of child to caregiver sometimes
is not optimal or ideal. Well, in this case, there
were no kids whatsoever. So you know, as far as
ratios go, they had plenty of people who were getting paid,
they just didn't have kids. They were just missing that
piece of it. Cut seven.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Quality Clearing Center I meant to say quality learning center.
We've arrived to ABC Learning Center. All the windows are
blocked out. I would like to check a child in
the daycare. Why can I speak to a manager? I
would like to see if I can bring a little Joey.
Hit my son, little Joey. Here, is there a paperworker fan?

(12:50):
Check out the daycare.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
You got two point sixty six million dollars this year
in funding and two point five million last year.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
We're just wondering where they where the kids are? Hello?

Speaker 3 (13:01):
We'd like to ask where's the money's going?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Where are the kids? I can't have a daycare center
without kids, but apparently you can in Minnesota. Can Tim
wealth Salvage's political career?

Speaker 6 (13:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
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Doctor Walt's what can you say about the latest on the.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Somali fraud that happened under your watch?

Speaker 8 (18:17):
Have you been able to apologize yet to the people
of Minnesota for allowing this Somali.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Fraud to continue under your watching of the people of Minnesota?

Speaker 8 (18:24):
Is it time to apologize?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
How about the whistleblowers?

Speaker 8 (18:27):
Then you have allegedly retaliated against Would you like to
respond to the whistleblowers?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
He is toast. Welcome back to the Danas Show. It's
rich is the only from Philadelphia with you today. That's
Tim Waltz ignoring questions over the fraud or the leering centers.
Leering centers, which if you are going to do a
typo for the name of a daycare center. I think
leering center is really bad. You've got center spelled wrong,

(18:58):
learning cedar or something like that, but leering is just
creepy in every single way. So there's that aspect of
it too. And I think as this continues to blow
up here, Number one, this guy, Nick Shirley needs just
an absolute standing ovation from everybody. He's an independent journalist,
he's in his early twenties. He just goes out there
with the camera and just does all this stuff, and

(19:20):
it's remarkable. It really is remarkable. But it I was
just reminded of the border, the border situation, and Griff
Jenkins was saying this sun Fox News earlier when he
and Bill Millusion years ago would go down to the
border and they would show everybody coming in, you know,
thousands of people a day crossing the southern border of

(19:41):
the United States of America illegally, and they would go
down there and they would show this and Fox was
covering it, but none of the major networks were covering it.
It's the very same thing with this. In this case,
it wasn't even Fox covering it. It was Nick Sureley
covering it. I mean, they're covering his work now, which
is great right, but in this age of citizen journalism,

(20:07):
thank god for it. I remember years ago there was
a bill I think it was in the state of
New Jersey. If I'm not mistaken, I'm probably other Blue
states as well, where they wanted to insist that in
order to be a journalist you had to be licensed
like a barber, which I don't even know if barbers
really needs to be licensed. To be honest with you,
I think the market can handle that. You know, if
you're if you're doing a crappy haircut, because I've had

(20:29):
bad haircuts from licensed barbers. I'm sure you have as well.
I don't think the license does much. But you know,
many professions you must be licensed. I think we all agree.
Doctors probably a good thing if they're licensed. But they
wanted to have journalists licensed. And I remember when this
bill was out there and I was saying no, no,
because the only people they'll end up giving licenses to

(20:50):
were the people that meet their standards of journalism. I mean,
even with medical licenses, which are probably a good thing,
at the end of the day, you still have people
like Gavin Usom threatening to take medical licenses away from doctors.
Who spout misinformation. And what is misinformation it's anything that
the state says is not what you need to say
about disease X or whatever whatever it is. So during COVID,

(21:15):
if you dared to utter the word I've remectin, for example,
well then they wanted to pull your medical license. That's
an example of that. If they handed out licenses to journalists,
I doubt Nick Sureley would be able to get it.
It's most likely they would have like what the left
always does, where they have a kickback scheme with universities
and journalism degrees, and you'd have to have one in

(21:35):
order to be a license journalist. And then for a
lot of people who didn't go to college and become
a journalism major, like Nick Shirley, for example, they would
not be considered a journalist. So then the problem would
be if he's doing what he's doing, they could say, well,
you're not a journalist, you're harassing people, and we're going
to arrest you, Versus that be a lot harder to

(21:57):
do to a licensed journalist. And so you'd have a
situation where you'd have corporate legacy media people get licenses.
They would be saying what the state wants them to say,
the other people would not be allowed to do what
they're doing. And what would happen is the authorities would
come to them and say show me your journalism license
and they say, well, I don't have one. I'm not

(22:18):
a licensed journalist. I'm just a citizen journalist. They're like, no, no,
you're just a pain in the neck. Get out of here,
or we're going to lock you up. So leave these
leering centers around in Minnesota, daycare centers with the word
learning misspelled. The irony of this is just so rich.
You misspelled learning and you turned it into leering, and

(22:40):
it's about take care centers and there are no kids
there to leer at in the first place. All of
it is just so wrong in every single way. But
they would turn it to a guy like Nick Shirley
and they'd say, well, get out of here. You're harassing people.
You're not a journalist. Leave it to the licensed journalist.
The problem is the licensed journalists weren't covering any of
this stuff, and the Somalis were the ones committing this fraud,

(23:05):
and the authorities were. They knew about it, they just
didn't want to do anything about it because number one.
The political cloud of the Somali community at number two
because they didn't want to be called racist and Islamophobic.
And that's drilled into people's heads by people like ilan
Omar when she started in twenty twenty with her her
Meals for Children thing, giving money to Somali kids who

(23:26):
were all starving in schools apparently, and they pound that
it's what they left does all the time. In order
to get you to not talk about certain things, they
throw the R word at you or the I word islamophobic,
and then they have people back away. So they all
knew what was happening. They knew what was going on.
Here's journalist Independent Journalists Cut eight, Nick Shirley, take a listen.

Speaker 10 (23:48):
I don't know. I'm like, they're scared of being called
nowadays because it's Somalians are committing as probab. People are
scared to be calling islamophobic, racist, in which has nothing
to do with what's going on. Because fraud is fraud.
It doesn't matter if it's a black person, white person.
Agent Verson Mexican fraud is fraud and we work too
hard simply just to be paying taxes in enabling fraud

(24:12):
of you happening.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, it's a matter of being afraid to call racist
in Islamophobic. But don't underestimate the political clout of Somalis
in Minnesota. And don't underestimate the fact that Tim Waltz
cared about one thing, and that is ensuring that these
people were happy even if they were committing fraud unto
their eyes. And he's desperately now trying to save his

(24:37):
political career. There are certain things in life you can't save.
This is one of them. Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz desperately
defends himself from Somali fraud allegations uncovered in damning viral video.
New York Post story about this as Nick Surely put
out the full forty two minutes of he and his
crew exposing Minnesota fraud and writing, this might be my

(24:58):
most important work yet. Covered over one hundred and ten
million dollars in one day. One day like it, and
shared around like wildfire. It's time to hold those corrupt
politicians and fraudsters accountable and sim Waltz pushed back against
the evergrowing fraud allegations levied against him and the disastrous
aftermath of a viral video in which impended journalists cracked

(25:18):
open a crucial part of the alleged Tomali aid scheme.
A spokesperson for Waltz, a Democrat who frequently provoked President
Trump's iire, addressed a bombshell video posted by conservative YouTuber
Nick Shirley. Quote, the governor has worked for years to
crack down on fraud and ask the state legislature for
more authority to take aggressive action. He has strengthened oversight,

(25:40):
including launching investigations into these specific facilities, one of which
was already closed. One one one whole one was closed.

Speaker 11 (25:49):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
The spokesperson added that Waltz has hired an outside firm
to audit payments to high risk programs, shutting down the
Housing Stabilization Services program entirely. So that's great. So they
bring in an outside firm who I imagine is probably
politically connected in Minnesota politics. They're going to pay them
money so that more taxpayer dollars now go to an

(26:13):
outside firm. I doubt they're working for free. Typically not
in most cases, when the government hires outside entities to
do anything, those outside entities can bill whatever they want,
whatever they want. Again, the private sector, if you over
bill people question your services, and then you just show
results and then they don't use you again, and then

(26:34):
your reputation gets through and then you're done. In the
public sector, you just bill whatever you want. Whether you
uncover any fraud or not, it's irrelevant. You just keep billing.
And I imagine the people that this particular outside firm
that's going to audit the payments. I'm sure somebody knows
somebody who's got a guy in politics, and then checks
are written, and that's how it works. It That's how
it works all the time with everything, whether you become

(26:55):
the insurance broker of record or the lawyer of record,
or the engineering firm or record or whatever it is,
you got to be politically connected everywhere in order to
get those lucrative contact contracts. Same thing with this, So
the taxpayers will get screwed again. He gets screwed by
the fraud, and they'll get screwed by the firm looking
into the fraud, auditing the fraud, because they're gonna have

(27:16):
to pay for it.

Speaker 11 (27:19):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
This guy is a Minnesotan, This Nick Shirley. He and
David is a Minnesotan friend named David or I guess
maybe surely he's not, but David is. They travel around Minneapolis.
They visit multiple trialcare and leaning leering sites, leering sites
allegedly owned by Somali immigrants. Many were either shuddered entirely
despite signage indicating they were open, or they were held

(27:41):
by staff or refuse to participate. In the video. One
of the buildings displayed a misspelled sign reading Quality Leering Center.
The learning center is supposed to account for at least
ninety nine children and funneled roughly four million dollars in
state funds. He appeared on Fox New It Was the
Big Weekend Show Sunday evening and boasted about his findings.

(28:03):
He joked that the alleged scheme was so obvious that
a kindergartener could figure out there is fraud going on. Yeah,
but you'd have to have kindergarteners in those daycare centers,
and there were no kids there, So you know, there's that.
There's that. Many officials have echoed Shirley's calls for an
investigation and charging people and prosecuting people, with FBI Director

(28:24):
Cash Betel even announcing the agency has surge extra personnel
to investigate the resources doled out in Minnesota. He said,
this is one of the first steps in a far
reaching effort to dismantle large scale fraud schemes exploiting federal programs.
Federal investigators, hold on to your butts for this one. Kids.

(28:45):
Federal investigators say half of the eighteen billion dollars granted
to Minnesota since twenty eighteen could have been stolen by
fraudulent schemes, amounting to up to nine billion dollar theft.
Nine billion with a B in theft. As I read this,

(29:06):
I keep thinking, why am I so dumb that I
never get in on this stuff? Do you ever feel
like that sometimes when somebody bets on a stock or
something and then they really cash out, and it's like,
why didn't I think of that?

Speaker 4 (29:20):
How is it that?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I because elon Omar is loaded? Now she's loaded. She's
the the brother lover. She's the one who allegedly married
her brother to get him his his immigration status. So
Congresswoman brother lover allegedly, I mean, we don't know, I
think so. I mean, the Daily Mail wrote a whole
story about it. They believe that they've confirmed that she

(29:41):
has in fact the brother lover. But she's loaded now.
It was like, all these members of Congress get loaded
and I always look at them. I was like, why
did I think of that? When when fraud stories like
this come out, and this happened after COVID too, when
people were just just just raking in money, I'm always thinking,
why am I the dum me who didn't figure out
a way to just load up on this taxpayer fund

(30:05):
a gravy train. Well, the answer that I come back
with is that I'm an ethical person and I don't
want to steal. I don't want to rip people off.
But I think there's this perception out there that it's
government money doesn't really cost anything. And maybe that's what
happens when you get into a culture that is okay
with thirty eight trillion dollars in federal debt, and people
are like, well, it's what's another nine billion dollars stolen?

(30:28):
I mean, just add that to the till over there.
I don't think people think it's real money. I think
I think it's monopoly money. It's like, look, the Feds
are throwing all this cash to all these different welfare programs,
but it's not real money. It's government money, so take
whatever you want. And then people are like, really, yeah, no, no,

(30:49):
just come to Minnesota. It's yeah, could sign up, it's easy.
You can even have you could even vouch for people
in Minnesota to vote. If they're not in the books,
you can just vouch for them. It's great. I'm an
ethical person. You're an ethical person. So when relief money

(31:10):
is available for autistic kids, your first inclination is probably not,
how can I get that money? Even though I'm not
an autistic child and I don't have one, how can
I get a piece of that? Well, open up some
sort of of a leering center. I'll do a fugazi
daycare center, and I'll just steal people's money, because it's
not real money, it's government money. It's all going to

(31:30):
go back into the till somehow and we're never going
to pay it back anyway, and who cares, and they're
not going to be able to find it, and if
they ever find it, the odds of anybody getting really
prosecuted or slam And maybe they'll prosecute some people and
maybe you got to pay it back and maybe you
got to have a little fine or something like that,
but no big whoop. And you know, and I really
do think that is the mindset in many ways when

(31:51):
it comes to these people, and it's just it's grotesque.
It is grotesque, and I hope they all go to prison.
I really do more on that front of what the
FBI is doing. Is we continue here on the data show,
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Speaker 1 (34:09):
And of course the left is melting down over the
investigative reporting done by Nick Shirley. There's a guy named
Hassan Piker. Maybe you've heard of this guy. He's a
he's a streamer who electshoots his dog. He elects, Yeah,
that's what he does. He elects chooses his dog, which
I think should be a crime. We just got a
puppy for Christmas for the kids. His name is Gary.

(34:33):
We didn't name him Gary. His knee was already named
Gary when we got him, and the kids love the name,
so we're keeping the name Gary. But he's adorable little guy.
He's a he's a little guy though, is a kava
poo or cocka doo or cocka doodle do I forget
exactly exactly? But a great dog anyway. So I have
a real problem with people that electrocute their their dog

(34:56):
just shocked their dog electric But that's what this guy
hasan piker does Anyway. He put out a statement on
x saying, I don't know what kind of frauds Somalis
and daycares are doing, but I think it's a separate
crime to try and storm with a camera into a
daycare with kids in it. Now, going back to what

(35:20):
I said earlier here on the Danish show about the
fact that if you had journalism licenses, citizen journalists could
not do what they do. The left would never allow it.
They would crack down there to rest them. But also
that's not what happened here.

Speaker 10 (35:34):
Ma.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Surely he didn't storm into daycare centers with cameras. They
walked in and asked how they could enroll children, which
is what you do. You go in there to ask
them questions and a lobby and then you ask for information,
which is how you would enroll children in a daycare facility.
But if there are no kids there, because they're not

(35:56):
actually enrolling kids there, because they're not actually doing daycare,
it's just a gigantic money laundering operation. You're not going
to find any anyway, which is what the real anger
is over. It's over the the the idea that this
was happening. It could, it could, it could be up
to nine billion dollars, and they got caught and it

(36:17):
was all under their noses, and they just ignored it.
I I don't know how much of it is the
we're afraid of being called racist or Islamophobic, as much
as that may be an excuse to allow the fraud
to continue. We'll just say we'll we'll tell everybody that
we're we were afraid of being called racist and islamophobic
if we get caught, allowing the fraud to continue, the

(36:40):
fraud of they all knew that was happening. But really,
what I think it was about is just you're talking
about very politically powerful constituency groups here and also the
fraud in the Islamophobia, and these these these people, these
criminals knew it. They they threatened it. They said that
if you come after us, if you say anything about us,
we'll just call racist. We'll just call you racist. I'll

(37:03):
call Tim Walt stupid. I don't know how you can
he's either the dumbest guy of all time or he's
just good. I first of all, I don't I'm not
saying he's dumb as if he didn't know what was happening.
I think he fully knew what was happening. He's completely incompetent.
But the fact that you you go on the national
ticket and you don't think all this is going to

(37:25):
come out, And it also proves that Kamala Harris continues
to defy the standards for the worst candidate in presidential
history when she picks the guy as her running mate
who oversaw a fraud scandal that could amount to nine
billion dollars in stolen money and thinks that what that
won't come out? Or if people were that stupid they

(37:45):
didn't vett it properly, so they had no idea, they
didn't know it was there. They will go down as
being the the the the big, one of the biggest
acts of political incompetence putting that dufis on the ticket.
He brought nothing was a state of the Democrats were
going to win anyway and nine billion dollar fraud scandal.
It's the Dana Show. It's rich is the only for
Dana Hour two straight ahead, don't go away. Well, the

(38:08):
Democrats are talking about impeaching Donald Trump again. I know
it's shocking, right, it really is. Welcome back to the
Dana Show. It's rich is the only in for Dana today.
I hope you had a great Christmas and Hanukkah and
happy New Year in just a couple of days. Hard
to believe this year. I feel like it flew by.
I really do, which I know is cliche in the
sense of they say, as you get older, it feels

(38:29):
as if the years fly by, and that's true, but
I think that it's just twenty twenty five. There was
so much happening with this president ms administration every single day,
and the left hates it because he's actually succeeding at things,
he's actually winning at things, and they can't stand it.
They really can't. So now they want to impeach him.

(38:52):
And I mean, none of us are surprised by that. Obviously,
we're not shocked at the least. I will tell you though,
that as the talk of impeachment heats up by people
like Nancy Pelosi, the vampiric one. She says, Democrats don't
want to impeach Trump again, but he's just forcing them

(39:14):
to do it. He's not giving them a choice. He's
just you know, they don't it's not they don't want
to do it. You see, he just keeps pushing them.
So what are they going to do? I mean, what's
the girl supposed to do these days? It's so silly,
it really is. Midterms will heat up though, obviously, and
it's kind of going to come down to the affordability

(39:35):
factor in the economy. I personally believe the economy is
going to be in good shape.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
I really do.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
In twenty twenty six, we stop the war and energy.
That was what was driving so much of this. That
and the reckless spending by Biden's administration. But let's be honest,
I mean there's reckless spending in Washington all the time.
It absolutely drove up inflation, no question about that. We're
turning the tide on that. But the war and energy
I still think was the biggest driver in FLA because

(40:00):
energy affects everything, the price of food, and if you
have extra money in your pocket because gas prices are low, great,
if only heating prices are low, great, you got extra
money in your pocket, that's money you're gonna spend and
put it into the economy. Fantastic. It matters all across
the board, and the Left was determined, I mean determined

(40:21):
to destroy fossil fuels in this country, everything from mandating
that you had to drive an electric vehicle, to shutting
down coal fire power plants, shutting down natural gas, putting
moratoriums on fracking for natural gas, putting up these monstrosity
these just disgusting massive wind turbine farms off the shores

(40:43):
which are killing whales and dolphins, Solar fields everywhere, the
stuff that doesn't work, stuff that actually doesn't deliver energy.
It's kind of funny. I was watching Microsoft has to
do commercial out and they have the interracial Santa thing
going on, which I mean, I don't really care. It's
just it's just funny, how you know. It's like you

(41:05):
got to just find new ways to be politically correct
if you're a tech company and your AI and everything
like this, because you have to make sure that people
are not noticing that you just restarted a nuclear reactor
on three Mile Island that was mothballed in twenty nineteen.
Does you need so much data? You need so much

(41:25):
energy for the data for AI that you need. Nuclear
can't deal with wind farms, can't do it with solar farms.
So you'll see more of this happening where these big
tech companies from Silicon Valley. No, we're supposed to be
the left of the left of the left of the
worst of the worst. And they turn around and they

(41:50):
realize that everything that they've been saying about climate change
was completely full of it. The funny thing about it, though,
is that nuclear is completely clean, natural gas clean. But
they still hate those things because they were so all
in on wind and solar and why because again, political power,
money money. They could they could give contracts to all

(42:12):
these green energy companies who would then put the money
back in the politicians' pockets. They could they could drive
money with federal money towards wind and solar projects, and
then they could invest in the stocks for those companies
and have that money go back in their pockets. Politicians
are the biggest thieves out there. They really are the
biggest thieves out there. Speaking of artificial intelligence, which is

(42:38):
everywhere now, anthropic AI ran a vending machine at the
headquarters of the Wall Street Journal for several weeks. It
lost hundreds of dollars. It bought some crazy stuff and
taught us a lot about the future of AI. Agents.
They they had, they had a whole thing on this
and artificial intelligence vending machine machine. It ran a snack

(43:02):
operation and it gave away free a free PlayStation, ordered
a live fish, among other things that it did too.
And they did this experiment because they wanted to see Cloudius,
the customized version of the model, which would run the machine,
ordering inventory for the machine, setting prices, and responding to
customers in the workplace. And I don't know what it

(43:26):
would do if a snack bag got stuck on the
way down. I never know what to do in that situation.
Do you shake the machine? Do you pound the glass
a little bit? Do you order another bag of the
same thing, thinking that that could knock the bag in
front of it down? And you get two essentially, because
I mean not for the price of one. You're already
paid for the thing it's hanging there midstream. But at

(43:47):
least now you have two delicious bags of Dorito's versus
just one. These are the questions that I grapple with
at my company's vending machine. No, but I ever really
go to the studio. But if I did, I'm saying
I would have those issues. So they brought in this
AI machine there and gave away nearly all its inventory
for free, including a PlayStation five. The AI was talking

(44:11):
to buying for marketing purposes in a PlayStation five, and
it went along with it, which I agree with. I mean,
you got to have happy employees. It ordered to live fish,
it offered a store, stun guns, pepper spray, cigarettes, and underwear.
Profits collapsed, but newsroom morale sword Oh yeah. I mean
if you could go sour Patch kids or a PlayStation

(44:33):
five from the vending machine and not have to pay
for it, that's great. It's easily distracted. I mean, I'm
easily distracted, so I could relate to this artificial intelligence.
Leave it to business journalist to successfully stage a boardroom
coup against an AI chief executive, and that's exactly what

(44:53):
they did. The Project vend experiment was designed by the
company's stress testers to see what happens when an AI
agent is given autonomy, money, and human colleagues. Three weeks
with Claudia showed us today's AIS promises and failings, and
how hilarious the gap can be between the two. If
you're picturing this, what this looks like, and you're thinking

(45:17):
in your mind, theny machine coils, falling snacks, not exactly right.
You have to think ikea cabinet with a giant fridge
bolted to the side in a touchscreen kiosk, no sensors,
no door locks, no robotics, nothing tone the AI, what's
actually happening, Just the honor system and a makeshift security

(45:37):
camera that they decided to put in so they could
see it. And they put bags of chips and soda
cans and candy and also weird items as well. And
after buying the inventory, Cloudy has decided on pricing and adjusting,
trying to maximize margins. The prices sync to the machine's
touchscreen Kiosk and haggling in Slack was a big part

(45:59):
of the fun. So all the employees using this online
employee communications tool known as Slack, they would all talk
to each other about this and they would come up
with great ideas to kind of trick the AI into
giving them free stuff and fun stuff and cool stuff.
All these back and forth messages with people, including one
thousand dollars in red wine, Yeah, one thousand dollars, And

(46:25):
then they just were losing money left and right with
this AI vending machine as well. So the vending machine
community can at least rest peacefully tonight because they probably
won't be losing their jobs based on this experiment anytime soon.
Of course, we keep hearing the panic about what AI
is going to do to jobs in twenty twenty six.
What I do know though, is that as far as

(46:47):
jobs for data centers, those are booming, and nuclear jobs
are going to be booming too, because we can't keep
up with AI right now with the current supply we
have for the grid. The grid, it's just not enough,
It's not nearly enough. If AI is going to power
everything in our lives from our computers, which we're getting

(47:08):
used to now, if all these different apps you can
talk to and find things out. Buddy of mine just
got a dog. He put into chat GPT what he
was looking for in dog, and it spit out various
different breeds. Then he asked it to go further down
the rabbit hole or the dog hole in this case.
I guess male versus female, what kind of you know?

(47:29):
How much the mom should weigh and the dad should
weigh in order to come up with the perfect sort
of frank and doodle puppy and chat gpt spit it out.
I have a friend who went on vacation, and she
used She used AI to plan the entire trip. They
gave her a full and itinerary of every day where
to go, even making the reservations at the restaurants for
her and everything like this. That's all great, but we're

(47:52):
also using AI to power missile defense systems. Obviously we're
using AI. What could possibly go wrong? We're using AI
for for literally everything. The massive amounts of power that
we need for that means that old nuclear reactors have
to come back online, like Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania.
You also have to have new nuclear reactors built. And

(48:13):
you have to get over the absurd obsession the left
has with solar and wind. Because they did they don't work.
And when Microsoft chose to reopen the mothballed nuclear reactor
of Three Mile Island, it said a lot about a
the needs for power and be the fact that the
whole war on climate was a joke anyway, it was

(48:35):
the war and energy, I should say, in the name
of climate justice was always a joke. It was always
pandering by leftist politicians to line their pockets and line
the pockets of their friends. It was always about that,
and so that they could stand up in Democrat primaries
and say that I was the biggest green lunatic out there.
You know, I shut down all the coal fire plants
in my state. I build massive wind farms on my state.

(48:59):
I put in the solar fields the size of smaller
states in my state. Forget all the other consequences that
you have with that, with solar panels that when they
reach their end of life expectancy and the fact that
they're all built in China, wind turbines that have a
twenty year life expectancy and then they just go into landfills.
But leaving all that aside for a moment, and looking

(49:20):
at what the needs of Silicon Valley as it's known,
the companies like Microsoft and Google, Meta and all the
AI needs that they need, mean that they need nuclear
and natural gas. And so the states that have that
and that are embracing that, states like Pennsylvania, which also

(49:42):
of course matter in the presidential election coming up in
twenty twenty eight, because before you know, we're gonna be
talking about that. Means the real question is is the
issue of climate change officially dead is a political issue.
I don't think it's that black and white, because you're
still dealing with a Democrat party that has been taken
over by crazy people, and for many of them, they
still worship at the altar of birthing person earth. But

(50:05):
from a practical perspective, if you can say, like say
Josh Shapiro, the governor Pennsylvania, I was able to bring
tens of thousands of new jobs to my state because
we went all in on natural gas and nuclear And
look at the wealth, and look at the economic success
we've had, and look at how many of these Silicon

(50:26):
Valley companies we brought to our state, and how many
data centers we've built, and how many construction jobs came
along with that. I think that's a great talking point
personally speaking, but I'll put into chat Giputen. I'll see
what it says about that there's no limits to what
you can do with AI, except clearly the limit becomes
the vending machine. So nothing's perfect, not yet anyway. At

(50:50):
least the vetting machine didn't try to kill anybody in
the workplace, because that's really the fear that I have
about AI, is that the vetting machine would find a
way to have that cocaine go one hundred and fifty
miles an hour and smack me in the face to
kill me. As long as that's not happening, I guess
so far, we'll take it as a win. It's the
data show. More to come, including whether or not we're
gonna have peace with Russia and Ukraine. It's rich is

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Speaker 8 (51:17):
Now all of the news you would probably miss, it's
time for data's quick five.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
New York City is getting rid of the metro cards soon.
I don't know the last time you went to New
York City. I've got to be up there tomorrow. That's
the card you use to get on the subway end
buses too, I think use them as well. And you
swipe it and it never worked. You had to swipe
it again and again and again and again. Anyway, that's gone.
They're going contact lists, You tap, you go, and you're good,

(51:44):
And that's the way it goes. But it kind of
follows a long thing where they're getting rid of just
these really anything that requires a transaction to use a
transit system in the first place, or even tolls. I
noticed this more and more. You've got cashless tolling, but
they just scan your license plate, which really infuriates people

(52:05):
who never decided to go down the root of easy
Pass because they just didn't want the government tracking their movements.
And I get it, I completely do. I get it.
But you have no choice now because they'll just send
you a bill in the mail by scanning your license plate.
That's just going to keep continuing. They will just eventually
you'll just probably at some point walk through a turnstile
and it will just probably scan your eyes and then

(52:26):
send you a bill that way. After thousands of years,
are archaeologists think they finally found Noah's Ark? Pretty cool
pottery fragments sparked fresh excitement and provided potential proof that
the alleged final resting place of the Arc was indeed
settled by humans at the time of the flood. Pretty
amazing story. And this ceramic points to a human activity

(52:47):
in the region between five thousand and three thousand BC.
And it's real. It's very real. Not that we ever
doubted it, of course, but one more proof obviously that
you cannot deny the existence of God because it's scientifically based.
You can prove it all right here. If the Bible's real,
and what they talk about in there is reel as well,

(53:09):
it's in the Agri Province, a boat shaped geological structure
that has been at the center of the Noahsar claim
for decades. Hey, Texas father rescued his kidnapped daughter by
tracing her phone's location according to the Sheriff's office. Which
I love this story because I have kids and the
debate about whether or not to give your kids phones,
and you hear the gym and gloomy bet phones all
the time. But this is a great story because he

(53:30):
was able to track it and find his daughter, and
that's fantastic. The hottest high schools in Massachusetts are trade schools,
no surprise there. And a rare gold coin was found
in a Salvation Army cattle in Washington County. It's The
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Speaker 6 (54:01):
Russia wants to see Ukraine succeed once. It sounds a
little strange, but I was explaining to the president. President
Putin was very generous in this feeling toward Ukraine succeeding,
including a supplying energy, electricity and other things at very
low prices.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
So the President was just speaking actually right now with
Prime Minister Benjamin net and Yahoo at the White House.
Welcome back to the show. Glad you're here actually Palm
Beach cheeby mar Lago, Welcome back to the show. It's
the Dana Show. It's rich is the only in for Dana.
Great to be with you on this New Year's Eve,
Eve eve. And as we look towards twenty twenty six,

(54:43):
of course, one of the questions is will there be
peace now? Zelensky is claiming that the President said the
US will consider giving Ukraine decades of security guarantees. According
to a story that was published by Fox New was
a short time ago today, So they had this meeting
down in Palm Beach, and Zelenski indicated in a post

(55:05):
on x that Ukraine would like to have at least thirty,
forty or even fifty years of security guarantees from the US,
and that President Donald Trump said the US will consider it.
He met with the President in Florida on Sunday, and
the battle obviously between Russia and Ukraine is heating up.
You might have heard that story over the weekend. I

(55:26):
don't know how tuned into the news you are. This
time of year, it's a tricky time of year. It's
a strange time of year. It's also a strange time
of year if you have children, because you have Christmas,
you have the lead up to Christmas. Then all of
a sudden, like my kids are eleven, nine and five,
so we have the lead up to Christmas. We got
a puppy. Then you kind of have a couple of
days after Christmas and they're enjoying their toys and they're

(55:48):
enjoying the puppy. Then they're off from school. They're off
from school all this week. Many people I know are
away on vacation. We're not away on vacation because we
have a dog. We just got puppies, can't go anywhere yet,
so we're just kind of hanging around. I'm working a
little bit doing the Danish show obviously today, and got
some Fox newsits schedule for the week. But a lot

(56:09):
of people just tune out, you know, in my industry
in particular, because I mean I'm a full time talk
show host. It's what I do. I have a show,
on talk radio twelve ten to be PhD in Philadelphia,
And for a lot of us in this industry, this
time of year, we just completely decompose, as George Cassanzo
would say, we decompose. And that's because the news cycle

(56:31):
doesn't end. It's continuously pounding and pounding. Like Russia and Ukraine.
It's just pounding, and you feel as if you can't
get away from it. So Christmas, in New Year's and
around this time of year, you turn out. Many people
just turn things off, and you may be in that
same situation. I don't know, but if you are following
the news, because I'm a junkie, so I have to

(56:52):
even get as much as I try to tune out,
I have to go off for a little little hits.
Maybe when you were growing up, people still smoked in
the boys room in the girls room in school. I
don't know. Maybe they did back then. You go in
for like a little puff. I was never smoker. I
never did. Or maybe you're a junkie, you know you

(57:12):
need like a little fix. I'm not judging. I'm just
saying I'm like that with the news. As much as
I try to stay out of it, I can't help myself.
And then of course, as I know that I've got
the data show on today, then that means that yesterday
I've got to dive back in and go what did
I miss and I missed and maybe you missed too.
That Russia apparently was escalating the battle against Ukraine in

(57:36):
a big, big way as the President was having a
phone call with Putin and Zelensky was coming to Palm Beach. Now,
Trump's strategy on this is a smart strategy. It is
basically as my friend doctor Victoria Coach from the Heritage
Foundation so aptly put it. She said, you know, Russia
is a gas station with nuclear weapons. That's really all

(57:59):
it is. So if you cut off the main product,
which is oil and natural gas. If you cut off
the main product, then Russia's economy suffers. Russia could fight
this war with Ukraine for the next several decades. They
don't care about their people. They just they force people

(58:19):
to the front lines. They're not in a rush, and
that's kind of the thinking of Russia, particularly with winter
being here now, it's will outlast anybody, and history has
proven that to be so. They don't do so well
in warmer climates. Obviously, as the Afghanistan debacle proved, you know,
back in the eighties. But point being that with cutting

(58:44):
off the customer base for Vladimir Putin and saying other
countries around the world, look, if you buy as oil,
you buy his natural gas, you're dead to us, and
we're gonna put sanctions on you, and we're gonna we're
gonna make it very, very complicate, complicated for you. If
you do so, then that hurts Putin's bottom line. The
only way this war ends is if you hit potent economically.
That's it. That's the only way you want the war

(59:06):
to end, and I certainly do. Then you got to
hit potent economically. So he comes to the table and
he makes a peace deal. Otherwise there's no incentive for him,
and he will keep going. He'll keep going as long
as it takes. He can't look weak. I mean Russia.
There could be a coupe tonight. He's also not young.
The life expectancy for the average male in Russia is

(59:27):
sixty five. He's in his early seventies, so he's already
cheating time. Maybe it's all of vodka. I don't know
what it is. Maybe it's a cold weather. I'm not
a cold weather guy. I could never live there. But
there's that, and then there's the fact that you still
have the hardliners in Russia who they won't be happy
unless it's total domination, and that and Russia takes Ukraine fully.

(59:50):
Now that's not going to happen. The United States has
said this peace deal means that Russia gets to whatever
land it's already act we've taken here. Basically Ukraine has
to acquiesce that to Russia, so Crimea for example, and
parts of don Bas. And Ukraine has said it's a
non starter. But you can't have a non starter in

(01:00:11):
these conversations, you just can't this. Ukraine does not have
the ability to keep fighting here. It doesn't have the money,
it doesn't have the soldiers, and it certainly does not
have the energy that it needs going into the winter.
In fact, Europe is going to have to bail them
out if Ukraine is able to keep fighting during the
long cold winter months that we are in right now.

(01:00:32):
Russia doesn't have that problem. Russia has the energy. Ukraine
does not, and that is a problem for Ukraine. Obviously.
Now there's a joint press conference with the President, our
president and Zelensky yesterday and the President was asked whether
he offered any promises or assurances of security for Ukraine,
and he said, I did. We want to work with Europe.

(01:00:55):
Europe will take over a big part of it, but
that the US will assist. Now, I don't know how
that's going to play with a lot of people back
in America who are just tired of this whole thing
and want this to end and don't really want us
to be babysitting anybody. He's been very good, our president
has been very good at getting Ukraine or NATO, I
should say, to cough up the money, the five percent

(01:01:15):
of their GDP, to actually pay it so that they
can they can be well, not be dead beats, basically,
because all these countries were dead beats just not paying
and looking to the United States of America to just
handle everything, even though it's not our continent, it's not
our war, and it's it really should never have been
hours in the first place. But that's what Europe expected,

(01:01:38):
and we did that. At the same time, Europe was
buying Putin's natural gas and oil and they were putting
money in the guy's pocket. They were giving Putin more money.
This fact alone just is so frustrating. They were giving
more Putin more money, buying his oil and natural gas
countries like Germany, France, for example, then they were giving

(01:02:00):
the war in terms of support for Ukraine. And even
if they were giving more money to Ukraine versus what
they were giving to Putin, it doesn't matter because you're
still putting money in Putin's pocket, which he's using to
what fight Ukraine. So the whole thing became this this
really self defeating and never ending conflict based on the

(01:02:21):
fact that Putin was still getting money. So President Trump
comes along to Europe and says, right, the first thing
you gotta do is you got to stop doing that,
all right, you got to stop buying his oil and
natural gas. That's number one, and saying that to the
other countries around the world too. I cut it out. Now,
you're not gonna be able to succeed in getting China
to do that. And obviously you have this access of
China and Iran. And the President was just saying with
that Yahoo, well, he thinks that a Ram may want

(01:02:42):
to make a deal, and they should make a deal
because they have I mean, you remember at the time
he said is Zelenski, you have no cards, Well, well
I'll tell you who has no cards, and that's Iran
right now. They need to make a deal, they need to,
but you still have this support of China, Iran and Russia,
and you still have this this axis that's going on

(01:03:04):
right now with them. And so Russia is still able
to put money in their pocket because they're still able
to sell their energy in the world market, not to
the degree necessarily as they were before thanks to Trump
cracking down on that, but they're still doing it. So
as Ukraine heads into the winter right now, and if
you can get a ceasefire deal, and Ukraine has this
problem with energy, and that's where you have the President

(01:03:27):
saying Putin is offering Ukraine energy supply at very low prices. Well,
they're not going to do that if they're going to
keep fighting Ukraine because obviously they don't want to. They're
not going to give money to Ukraine to keep the
lights on to fight them. That would make no sense.
So the fact that Putin is offering the energy supply
at very low prices is a good sign then that

(01:03:48):
maybe we're actually going to get a piece deal and
maybe actually this thing will come to an end. That'd
be great. I think everybody's ready for this to come
to an end and move on. And where we go
from here is is this has to be something that
Europe has to deal with. This is their continent, this
is their problem. It's a problem that in many ways
they created by You probably remember this when Putin was

(01:04:13):
confronting Angela Merkel in his first term about how Germany
kept buying oil and natural gas from Russia, particularly natural gas,
and he kept saying to her, this is really stupid.
All you're doing is empowering Putin. So the guy that
the Left accused year after year lying about him being
some Russian puppet, was confronting the Chancellor of Germany over

(01:04:35):
the fact that Germany kept buying his energy and saying,
you're just making the guy rich and powerful. What are
you doing here? I wasn't just Germany, it was all
the countries in Europe were doing that because they're stupid,
and they made stupid energy decisions like getting rid of
nuclear power, for example, and shutting off their natural gas.
A lot of these countries were really, really all in

(01:04:55):
on the climate change stuff, and then they turned around
and realized, oh my gosh, it's winter and we don't
have enough energy supply. Go figure. So then they turned
to Russia and they start buying stuff from Vladimir Putin,
and then Trump leaves office, the United States of America
doubles down on stupid and Joe Biden, well, I technically

(01:05:17):
believe it was his auto pen that did this. No,
I'm serious about this, I really do. I think it
was the autopen. The auto pen put a ban on
the export of liquid natural gas from the United States
of America. I don't think Biden never really knew about it,
because I remember the time at speaker Mike Johnson asked
him and he had no clue what he was talking about,
and everybody just assumed, Oh, Joe's just having one of

(01:05:39):
his days, you know, Biden's being Biden again. I don't
think he knew about it, because at one point he
was a very savvy politician. I mean, he was the
chairman of the House Judiciary or the Senate Judiciary committeet
one point. I mean he was, you know, he Delaware powerhouse,
found a way to become vice president, found a way
to become a multi millionaire, found a way to get
his idiot crackhead Son lucrative contracts consulting in areas he

(01:06:02):
knew nothing about, and a savvy politician like that never
would have said in an election year when I've got
to win Pennsylvania, let's put in a ban on the
export of liquid natural gas the auto pen. However, that's
a different story. And the people controlling the autopen, who
are climate change radicals, well that's a different story too.
So I do think it's one of those areas where

(01:06:23):
the autopen policy kicked in and they said, it doesn't
matter what the President doesn't care, we could do whatever
we want, just sign it. So meanwhile, Russia is getting
more powerful and more rich, and Ukraine doesn't have the
energy that it needs, and it also has to turn
to Russia for energy. And that's ironic in a sense

(01:06:48):
because as that happens, that's also going to put money
in Putin's pocket. So then you have to have a
security guarantee so that he doesn't turn around take the
money that he's just made for supplying Ukraine with energy
and then use it to one day attack Ukraine in
the future. If you're going to actually have a peace deal,
here's the president talking about the peace talks with Zelenski.

(01:07:09):
This is cut to take a listen, we spoke to
all of.

Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
Those great leaders. They're all great leaders, and we had
a great talk with them. After we were completed, we
thought it was appropriate to speak with them, and our
meeting was excellent. We covered somebody would say ninety five percent.
I don't know what percent, but we have made a
lot of progress on ending that war, which is really

(01:07:33):
the certainly the most deadly war since World War Two,
probably the biggest war since World War Two. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Well, and but Zelenski, though, is contradicting this and saying
that he doesn't believe Putin wants peace. He doesn't see it.
I think the only reason why Putin would want Piece
is the economic reason that I mentioned earlier to you.
That's basically it. But here's cut four.

Speaker 9 (01:07:55):
Is there any indication that you see that Vladimir Putin
wants peace by what he's doing or saying me not
be honest, And I don't see it, because, first of all,
I don't hear it publicly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
His messages they go, I mean he doesn't speak about Piece.

Speaker 10 (01:08:17):
No, he doesn't speak.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
He says that he can go further.

Speaker 9 (01:08:21):
It's not the signals off piss.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
We'll see, we shall see. It's the data show. It's rich.
It's the only in for Dana Florida Man, straight ahead.
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time
for Florida Man. Yeah, well, this is a couple of
great ones here for you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
On the Danish show Essentral, Florida Man sued outback steakhouse,
saying the toilet shattered beneath him. I hate when that happens,
don't you. I mean, it's one thing when there's no
toilet paper, but then the toilet just shatters right underneath you.
No fun there, But hey, at least he got some
bloomin onion. Am I right? Man allegedly stole four hundred
pounds of avocados to buy Christmas presents for children. The

(01:09:07):
suspect allegedly told deputies he planned to sell the avocados
to buy Christmas gifts for his kids, and so he
stole hundreds of pounds of them in the Miami area.
Idel Perez arrested after deputy said they saw him leaving
a fenced avocado grove with bags of avocados estimated to
weigh four hundred pounds. So the man is strong. I'm

(01:09:27):
just saying, you got to give it to him, you
know what I'm saying. Like the avocados, you carry one
of those little bags in the store, they're heavy. Four
hundred pounds of avocados. That's some serious, serious girth right there.
So and since it is the season, of course, and
we have the Salvation Army donation kettles everywhere, you know
you're gonna have a story like this. Obviously, a Florida
man wielding a Salvation a Florida man wielding a Salvation

(01:09:52):
Army donation kettle. A taxi store manager, Yes, that's right.
The Salvation Army donation kettle was his weapon of choice.
A violent outburst, took the kettle, went into a store
and tried to impale the store manager with the Salvation
Army kettle. Which makes sense if you think about it,

(01:10:13):
if you're looking for a weapon, they're everywhere, and they
are like legit kettles. I mean, they're not flimsy things.
I'm just saying, you know what i mean. So he
picked one up and he went into a store and
he went after the guy. And he's a real handsome
guy too, as you can imagine, threatened to impale this guy.
He was intoxicated, which is also shocking. I know you're

(01:10:35):
shocked about that part of the story as well. Began
aggressively confronting people who walk by, creating a major to servants,
and the manager came outside. The guy became violent and
attempted to impale the manager with the donation kettle tripod,
because you also have the kettle and also the tripod
that holds up said kettle, so you really have two

(01:10:55):
weapons there, if you think about it. He was hired
as a Salvation Army bell ringer and stationed outside this
public supermarket. It was drunk ringing and belligerent tightings, belligerent tightings,
so the tightings this time of year, drunk belligerent tightings.
And then they took him into custody after his full

(01:11:18):
blown charity tirade. So there you go. And I always
thought they picked the best people for these jobs. I
really did. My experience with the Salvation Army Santa Kettle
people has always been fine and outstanding. I've never gotten
drunk belligerent tightings, but you know that's me all right.
More to come on the Dana Show. The President meeting
with net and Yahoo what will come of that? And

(01:11:40):
of course, the question in everybody's mind as we head
into this is what will come of Minnesota as more
fraud comes to light? Just how big is it going
to be? The FBI says they're making this priority number
one as Cash, Bettel and the FBI descend upon Minnesota.
Nine billion? Is that how much this fraud scandal could

(01:12:01):
end up being nine billion dollars of taxpayer theft? We'll
find out. It's Rich Zeoli in for Dana. It's the
Dana Show. Don't go away. The FBI is surging resources
to Minnesota, as Director Cash Mittel calls the two hundred
fifty million dollar fraud scheme the tip of a very
large iceberg. Welcome back to the Dana Show. It is

(01:12:24):
Rich Zioli with you. Great to be with you on
this New Year's Eve eve eve, and I appreciate you hanging.

Speaker 9 (01:12:31):
I really do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Tip of the iceberg, no doubt about it. That is
what we're talking about here with Minnesota. And look, I
don't know, you know, like somebody allege that one of
the schools that the young man visited, the journalist here
one of those schools they're operating hours or not till
the afternoon. I'm not suggesting that necessarily everything he on

(01:12:53):
earthed in the video may turn out to be fraud.
I don't know. I mean, that's the thing. But what
we do know is this. We do know that what
he's exposed here with these daycare centers, and just the
daycare centers alone, if you're talking about boarded up buildings,
if you're talking about daycare centers that have nobody there,
and yet those centers are still receiving money, if people

(01:13:15):
are still getting paid, if there are no kids going
into the daycare centers, if the standards of the center
are so low that they can't even spell the freaking
name right they call it a leering center instead of
a learning center.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
Or a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
It's fraud. There's no other way to put it. It's fraud.
And I think, you know, maybe one of those daycare
centers will turn out to be operating fine, and then
they'll try to dismantle everything that he's uncovered here by saying, well,
you know, one of the facilities just wasn't open yet.
May okay, maybe, but you can't account for all the

(01:13:56):
other facilities that are ripping the taxpayers off. But I
guarantee you that that's exactly what the leftist corporate media
will do, is they'll turn around and say, well, his
debunked video because one of the daycare centers wasn't open
when he went there, so obviously there'd be no kids
there yet. And I think it's like anything else you'll

(01:14:22):
find as this goes on here, that the Feeding Our
Future investigation, for example, which uncovered a two hundred and
fifteen million dollar scheme that siphoned federal food aid intended
for children during the COVID nineteen pandemic, which is something
that the brother lover Congresswoman Ilan Omar championed as a
member of Congress. Seventy eight indictments, fifty seven convictions. I

(01:14:46):
think of the seventy eight indictments, I think seventy one
or seventy two of the people are Somali. Again, you
can try to make this out to be some sort
of anti Somali thing, it's not. I'm Italian. Remember very
well when the FBI went after Italians who happened to
be an organized crime. I didn't take it personally. I
didn't think it was racist. My dad was a cop.

(01:15:10):
My dad worked on joint task forces or task force.
I never know exactly how to, but you get the point.
Going after Italians. I didn't really turn around and think
it was some big racist thing. I just thought they
were involved in organized crime allegedly obviously, I mean, the
mafia is not real. But if it was real, clearly,

(01:15:31):
then you would have gone after them. Seventy eight indictments,
fifty seven convictions, prosecutors charging defendants in a separate plot
to bribe a jurer with one hundred and twenty thousand
dollars in cash, if I was the juror doing jury
duty and I got offered one hundred and twenty thousand
dollars in cash, I'd have to really think about it.
I'm just saying I'd have to really think jury duty

(01:15:52):
is the worst, and one hundred and twenty thousand dollars
is a lot of money. I'm just saying I probably
wouldn't do it. I probably would not, but I have
to think at least i'd have to give it a
couple minutes of thought. That's all I'm saying. One hundred
and twenty grand no joke. The FBI believes is just
a tip of a very large iceberg. The director wrote
a X. We will continue to follow the money and

(01:16:13):
protect children, and this investigation very much remains ongoing. Furthermore,
many are also being referred to immigration officials for possible
further denaturalization and deportation proceedings where eligible good kick them out.
I don't want to have to pay to incarcerate these people.
Kick them out. Tel's announced became in the wake of

(01:16:36):
a viral video posted on social media on Friday by
independent journalist Nick Shirley with a highlighted alleged fraud involving
Minnesota childcare and learning centers. In the video, many of
the facilities appear non operational, badly receiving millions of dollars
in government aid in Lawmakers, including House majority Whip Tom
em of Minnesota, Mike Lawler of New York, Vice President JD.

(01:16:59):
Van of All responded to the viral video EMA, accusing
Governor Tim Waltz of sitting idly by while billions were
stolen from hard working Minnesotans. And the fact that they've
hired this outside firm to check into this really frustrates me.
It really does, because again, it's more money going to
another entity, more taxpayer dollars. It's like the House always wins.

(01:17:22):
That's what it feels like, the House always wins. An
ex account calling itself Minnesota Staff Fraud Reporting commentary, which
says it consists of more than four undred and eighty
Minnesota state staff members, wrote that Waltz as one hundred
percent responsible for the massive fraud in Minnesota. This is
the part that really gets my blood boiling here. I

(01:17:44):
mean it all does. I'm not trying to diminish the
other parts that get my blood boiling, but this here,
right here. Quote. We let Tim Waltz know of fraud
early on, hoping for a partnership in stopping fraud, but no,
we got the opposite response. Tim Waltz system systematically retaliated
against whistleblowers, using monitoring threats, repression, and did his best

(01:18:06):
to discredit fraud reports. In addition to retaliating against whistleblowers,
Tim Waltz dis empowered the Office of Legislative Auditor, allowing
agencies to disregard their audit findings and guidance. And many
of the people that were told of this turned around
and said, well, we don't want to be called racist,

(01:18:27):
so we're not gonna do anything about it. These fraud
schemes proliferated in parts of Minnesota's Somali community. A number
of individuals allegedly created companies that build state agencies for
millions of dollars worth of social services that were never delivered.
And I'm not surprised by any of this because I've
told you before, I think a lot of people view

(01:18:47):
government money as just it's fake money, it's monopoly money.
It's like, it's not real. Well, don't they have insurance?

Speaker 11 (01:18:56):
It is?

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Write it off? And they also know that that rarely
will the fraud be exposed, and it wasn't until the
FEDS got involved and then blew this wide open, and
you're gonna find you'll find some stories just so you know.
You like the Minneapolis Star Tribune, I think is a newspaper,

(01:19:17):
They're like, well, we exposed this two years ago, we
wrote stories about it. Well, then the question becomes this,
why was it still going on after it was exposed?
How deep of an expos did you do into all
these other areas of fraud? Why was why was Tim

(01:19:38):
Waltz chosen to be on the ticket as vice president
if all this stuff was happening in his state? And
how is it that elan Omar and these other members
of Congress from Minnesota who were championing these programs will
face no accountability whatsoever because they won't. I'm telling you
right now, they won't. People may go to jail, but
the politicians, it always seems as if they're fine. They

(01:20:00):
they're they're they're never ever held accountable in any of
this stuff. They get to walk away. A Somali says,
any American disturbed by Somali fraud means they don't have
a life, all right. So if you're if you're if
you're if you're upset by this and what's happening in Minnesota,

(01:20:20):
that's on you, all right. If if a billion dollars
at least, maybe as high as nine billion of fraud
was taking place and you are upset by that, that's
on you. You probably should talk to somebody. You probably
should call a therapist, maybe a helpline, maybe use something
medicinal to help you deal with it. But that's on you, buddy.

(01:20:41):
Cut number eleven.

Speaker 5 (01:20:43):
Only Americans who's concerned with the Somali business is the
ones who have no life. They don't have They have
a lot of time in their hand.

Speaker 11 (01:20:53):
They broke.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
They don't have no money, no ambition, nothing, They're not
even they don't have hobbies. They've depressed the lonely.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
You're a freaking loser, that's what it is. You care
about this. You're a freaking loser. Get a life.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
A Minneapolis residence said, I've been to like forty or
fifty of these childcares. I've never seen a single child
in any of them. Cut twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
This fraud is so massive. When the dust settles on this,
it's going to be found to be the largest fraud
in the history of the country and probably the world.
It's that big. The ones that I've that I've gotten
dat on, they average about two point five million dollars
a year, and a lot of them will say they
have anywhere from eighty to one hundred and twenty children.

(01:21:44):
I've been to literally forty or fifty these childcare and
there never has been a single child at any one
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Ever, Well, you know that's the thing about childcare centers
is they're supposed to have what's the word for children, Yeah,
they're supposed to have that. So the FBI is going
all in on this. Tim Wats's political career is over.
But will he be held accountable?

Speaker 11 (01:22:07):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Now he'll leave office, he'll wind up on ms NOW
if it's still around by then, he'll be a talking
head on MS NOW. He'll wind up going on in
trashing Trump all the time. He'll do all that, but
he won't face any actual consequences, nor will elan Omar
the brother lover her wealth increase by three thousand, five

(01:22:29):
hundred percent in the last several years three thousand five
hundred percent? Did did your wealth increase by that? I'm
curious because I think that maybe higher than the average
cola increase if you get a cost of living adjustment,
I think it's three point five percent. I don't think

(01:22:49):
it's three thousand, five hundred percent. I gotta check the
math on that. Will she be held accountable for any
of this? No, she won't. In all these years, all
this fraud was going on, and her net wealth increases
by thirty five percent. This is why people hate politicians.
It's why they hate the system, and it's why I,

(01:23:10):
for one, as a taxpayer, don't like any of these
government charitable programs because they're all freaking money laundering scams.
They are their money laundering scams they steal my money
and then they give it to these people who find
ways to further steal my money, and it's infuriating to
all of us. Meanwhile, the house always wins. The politicians

(01:23:33):
seem to be just fine. They seem to get richer
and richer, and actual people who may have needed the
help get screwed, and that part of the story does
not get talked about. Nobody talks about the Somali kids.
Nobody talks about the autistic kids. Nobody talks about the
the unhoused. To quote Tim Waltz's idiotic daughter, nobody talks
about that. But there were actual victims in this, not

(01:23:55):
just taxpayers, but people who needed the help and they
didn't get it. Do you know, Spare me your accusations
of racism and Islamophobia and everything like this, when the
people who needed the help were Islamic in many of
these cases. How about it's islamophobic to steal their money.
I don't know, I'm just saying, how about that, maybe
it's racist to steal their money thinking that they're so

(01:24:15):
stupid they won't notice turn it turn it back on
them like that. Now they won't do that either, of course,
But Hopefully the FBI will will will continue the investigation.
I'm sure they will, and it'll just be amazing to
find out the extent of this When all of this
adds up. What is the polymarket average? Is it going

(01:24:36):
to be close to nine billion? We'll have to check,
we'll find out. It's a Dana show. Don't go away, And.

Speaker 8 (01:24:43):
Now all of the news you would probably miss. It's
time for Dana's Quick five.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Well, you know, Tyler Perry has been sued for seventy
seven million dollars. Yeah, Christmas Day is sexual assault from me.
But as lawyer says, it's a failed money grab, A right,
failed money grab. A similar lawyer behind a similar action
earlier this year, I was saying, it's just more of
the same in search of a payout, claimed the betrayed

(01:25:09):
Medea Star's high profile attorney. Having recently failed in another
matter against mister Perry, the very same lawyer has now
made yet another demand from more than a decade ago,
which will also be a failed money grab, he said. Now,
I don't know. I'm just saying that the lawyers seem
to always win. But it's a two hundred and sixty

(01:25:30):
million dollars sexual harassment and assault suit initially filed in June,
so keep an.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
Eye on that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
Speaking of Hollywood, by the way, the deal to grab
Warner Brothers, Netflix and Paramount are locked in a big
battle right now to try to grab Warner Brothers, and
the issue in all of this right now comes down
to movie theaters. There's a lot of concern that if
Netflix does it, it'll be the end of movie theaters
all They'll be done. That's it, That'll be the end

(01:25:57):
of it. Whereas they say, if Paramount buys it, that'll
keep movies going at movie theaters. But the problem is
it'll be such debt they don't know if that's sustainable.
So keep an eye on the Warner Brothers merger. A
whole lot of money at stake for that, no doubt
about that. Jill Shulin, who starred as Drew Barrymore's sister
in Babes and Toyland, remember that movie. I love that movie.

(01:26:19):
She's returning to Hollywood for the first time in nearly
thirty years. Thirty years. Of course, I love the original
Babes in Toyland. This was a remake that she was in,
but the original, the og with was it abn Costello.
I think, yeah, right, great stuff. Anyway, she said she
left Hollywood, she was done with it, she gave up
on it. But now she's coming back and she'll be

(01:26:39):
in a new movie right there. But she left because
she wanted to be a full time mom. Isn't that awesome?
I think it's great. But now her kids are grown
and she says, why not, let's do this? So there
you go. And more news. Ashton Kutcher and Mia Kunis
are pushing for a comeback after falling out of favor
in Hollywood. Pushing for a comeback. We'll see if Hollywood

(01:27:02):
takes them back or maybe they'll just be punked. Oh
that was bad. I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 (01:27:06):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
More to come on The Dana Show. Will the Democrats
try to impeach President Trump? The predictions come straight Ahead.

Speaker 9 (01:27:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
You know, it's interesting. I was thinking about that that
merger with Warner Brothers during the break and it is
pretty fascinating how you're talking about now the changing marketplace
of entertainment and how people consume their entertainment. And you know, I,
for one, still like one of the movies. That's that's

(01:27:48):
me Like, I still I still enjoy it. It's it's
a lot of fun for me. But not already. Does
you know some people they just like to hang out
at the house and stream. And that's really the big
conversation right now as you're talking about this Warner Brothers merger,
because I mean, it's billions of dollars at stake right now,
it's billions of dollars and Netflix, which at one point,

(01:28:12):
if you remember back in the day, used to get
those red envelopes in the mail and they'd have your
your DVD in there, what you picked, and it was like,
oh man, look at this. You know what did I get?
What's my surprise? And then when they decided to end
that and just go all over to streaming and making
their own content, and it was risky and obviously worked
out for them, it really did. The biggest impact on

(01:28:37):
entertainment has been COVID, no doubt about that. And here
on The Dana Show, as we continue here with me
Rich Zeoli and by the way, you can shoot me
a tweet if you like. I still can't say you
can X me because it just sounds freaking weird, but
you can shoot me a tweet at rich Zeoli r
ach Zeo l I get my podcasts as well, if
you like. But the story that I read about this

(01:28:59):
is that there's no happy ending for movie theaters no
matter who wins this battle between Netflix and Paramount to
who will own Warner Brothers, which just see know Warner
Brothers has Superman, Batman, all those DC characters are all
owned by Warner Brothers, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings,
all of that, And it's an all outbidding war where

(01:29:22):
you literally have these companies right now are offering individual
investors cash money. For example, Paramount is giving thirty dollars
a share in cash directly to Warner shareholders. Netflix is
giving twenty seven seventy five cents a share to Warner
Brothers shareholders, as they're all hoping that they'll get the thing.

(01:29:43):
But as you look at this and you look at
the state of movie theaters, and one thing that I
know is that movie theaters, if they all shut their
doors tomorrow, it would be very problematic for a lot
of reasons. They act as anchors for a lot of malls,
and malls are doing great last time I checked. I
mean some, you know, some still survive, but a lot

(01:30:04):
of them are hanging on by a thread. There's more
and more stories. Now what do you do with malls.
There's projects to convert them into housing, so you'd have
this kind of mixed use thing. There's a mall by
me in South Jersey where Cooper Hospital wound up expanding
and bought like the old I think it was Sears

(01:30:25):
or something and turned it into a new, modern, state
of the art medical facility. And then nearby there's going
to be these high end apartments that are built, and
the idea is, well, you can walk over there, get
medical care, grab a cup of coffee, do a little shopping,
you know. But there's a movie theater that serves as
an anchor for people, particularly on the weekends, to go
out to dinner and do something. They pay a lot

(01:30:46):
of property taxes, so if they all shut their doors tomorrow,
it would be it'd be very problematic because we lose jobs.
And I mean, granted, you know, the people that work
at movie theaters tend to be younger, but there are
a lot of adults that work there too, and they
manage him. And then you have that problem of yet
another big box store that's empty, and what do you

(01:31:09):
do with that space? What do you you know, what
do you do with it? I don't know. But Hollywood
took a huge hit because of Gavin Newsom. That guy,
and you need to know this as he gears up
to run for president of the United States. That guy
single handedly is the reason why movie theaters may not

(01:31:31):
ever come back to where they were, and it all
has to do with what he did during COVID, with
the with the shutdowns. So if you look at how
movie theaters were doing domestic box office per year in
twenty nineteen, you had it. They were making a round
between ten and twelve billion dollars a year. COVID happens

(01:31:52):
twenty twenty drops down at two point eleven billion dollars
in domestic box office money, largely from states that reopened
and people go out to movie theaters, but a lot
of the Blue states you still could not go to
the movie theaters even months after COVID, even a year
after COVID, they still had lockdowns. But a big part

(01:32:13):
of the problem is there was nothing to see. So
do you remember how they would start rerunning. They would
reach movie theaters would open again. There were no new
movies coming out, so you would go and you'd rewatch movies.
It was like, well, come rewatch a movie you've already
seen on the big screen. Meanwhile, movies that were being
made were stopped, movies that should have been released that year.

(01:32:34):
In later twenty twenty, they couldn't continue production on this.
I thought Tom Cruise got so frustrated with this that
he had to finish Mission Impossible in the UK, and
also they had to finish editing Top Gun Maverick in
the UK as well, because Tom Cruise said, I am
making sure that these movies are shown in theaters. They

(01:32:57):
are men for the big screen, They're meant for the
big sound. I'm not going to do this whole straight
to home streaming thing. And he actually put a video
of himself at the beginning of Top Gun Maverick thanking
the audience for coming to the theater. But the level
of frustration with Gavin Newsom's lockdowns that Hollywood has now

(01:33:17):
become basically a ghost town. There was an article about
this in the Los Angeles Times that I read about
this too, where they were saying, you know, they don't
make movies in Hollywood anymore. COVID was really the thing
that forever changed that industry, and now Hollywood is basically
a museum to Hollywood, to a bygone era of Hollywood.

(01:33:39):
I took my family there back in March. I was
doing the I was a guest on the Praeger You
Book Club. Michael Knows Holsted hosted it, and we did
Animal Farm and we had a great conversation about this.
So we went out to California back in last March.
Once Universal Studios did the theme park and everything like this,
then we did the studio tour, driving around a lot.

(01:34:00):
There was nothing, and I mean nothing was being made.
Nothing on the studio lot. They were shooting some TV
reality show that had rented the space, but there were yeah,
we were hoping to see a movie. TV shold nothing,
and they would show a lot of the stuff that

(01:34:21):
they shop, but it was all old stuff. Nothing my
kids knew. For example, Georgia, even Austin, Texas, they started
offering huge tax credits to movie companies to come shoot there.
But it wasn't just that. It was that a lot
of the talent decided they didn't want to live in
California anymore. They were getting tax to death. It's a

(01:34:41):
state with the highest cost of living besides Hawaii, and
then they put in a millionaire's tax. And so this
Los Angeles Times article goes on to say, nobody will
really admit it, but for these people who were working
in the in the movie industry, and they were at
one point at least getting paid a lot of money,
they didn't want to pay the taxes. So they moved

(01:35:02):
to Austin, Texas. They'd start their production companies there. They
moved to Florida. Like Sydney Sweeney when that whole controversy,
that stupid, fake made up controversy over her jeans commercial
came out, she lives in Florida. There's an actor recently
who was talking about this, how why he left Hollywood.

(01:35:23):
He's living in Austin. He was an actor in Top
Gun Maverick two. He basically said he likes it better
down there, the lifestyle. But he also started his production
company down there in Austin because even though that city's
pretty liberal, it's still a red state, and they it's
a lot cheaper to live there and a lot of
people are doing that now. So Gavin Newsom destroyed the

(01:35:46):
movie industry. It is never bounced back from the pandemic
levels because in twenty twenty one and only did four
and a half billion dollars domestically, they still didn't have
movies to show. It wasn't really until twenty twenty two
when movies start getting finished and getting released thanks to
the United Kingdom, for example, allowing Tom Cruise to go
over there and finish Mission Impossible, finish Top Gun, Maverick.

(01:36:09):
And it wasn't just him, but a lot of other
movie they all left, they left. I saw an interview
recently where Matt Damon was talking about this, and he
was saying that you can shoot an entire movie in
some of these countries overseas for cheaper than what it
cost to shoot a single scene in Hollywood, California because

(01:36:31):
of all the different rules, laws, union rules and everything else.
But during COVID Newsom does his lockdowns, his shutdowns, caterers
go out of business. A lot of these production guys
they can't eat, they got no money, so they leave,
and they left and they found work in other places.
So you don't even have a lot of the technical
people that you still need to make a movie, and

(01:36:51):
it's just cheaper to film in either Canada or New Zealand.
It was funny because they were the Wicked movies or
you know, obviously very successful, very profitable. While we're on
the tour at Universal Studios and Universal is now won
by Comcast, there's a Wicked balloon on a doorknob. Now

(01:37:14):
mind you, right, you're in Hollywood with your kids. I
have two daughters and a son. My daughters are totally
into Wicked and all that they see the Wicked balloon,
they're like, Dad, is that where they're making Wicked? And
the guy doing the tour comes on the little microphone
thing and he goes, if you look over there, you'll
see a Wicked balloon. That's the producer of Wicked. That's

(01:37:37):
that's her office. So on a Hollywood movie tour, my
kids got to see the office of the producer of
Wicked and a freaking balloon that I could buy at
Dollar Tree. Think about that, because they didn't make it
there and shoot it there. The domestic box office really

(01:37:57):
only started to come back in twenty twenty two, but
it has still yet to bounce back to the pre
pandemic levels of twenty nineteen. Closest has got it got
was twenty twenty three with a close to nine billion dollars.
But again you're talking about twelve billion dollars pre pandemic.
So while all while well, you have these Democrat politicians

(01:38:19):
and people like use them saying it's his temporary ass
temporary and the effects that it created are very, very,
very long lasting. And as you as you think about that,
as you look at that, and you think about the
change of behavior that occurred during COVID as well, more

(01:38:40):
and more people said, well, I can just watch a
movie at home, or I'll wait thirty days and I
watch it at home in the comfort of my house.
And people started buying big screen TVs and speakers and
everything else. So, as this fight goes on about Warner
Brothers and the billions of dollars that are at stake here,
Netflix is promising that it will not change the schedule

(01:39:00):
that is currently on schedule from when a movie is
released in theaters to when it comes home. But the
CEO of Netflix had told shareholders recently before all this happened,
that they were they believe that that schedule was gonna change.
In other words, a movie would come out in the
theaters and then a lot sooner, maybe a week or two,
a couple of weeks, it would be ready to stream

(01:39:21):
at home. So if you wanted to see it on
a big screen, you could, but he could just also
wait a couple weeks and it would be available for
you to stream at home. He's now promising that he
will not do that if he buys Warner Brothers, because
he said, look, I said that before I was in
the movie business, and now we're gonna be in the
movie business if this goes through. But either way, whether
it's Netflix or whether it's Paramount, the point of the

(01:39:41):
article in the Wall Street Journal is that Hollywood domestic
movie making, I should really say, because they're not making
movies in Hollywood anymore. It's gonna be tough either way.
It's gonna be tough either way because Cinemark, amc Entertainment,
their socks have plunged, plunged, and in addition to that,

(01:40:03):
the debt that Paramount has that even if they buy
Warner Brothers, even if they're successful in buying it, they
still are going to have to make massive cuts, like,
for example, they say, Paramount might seem a better option
for keeping Warner in the theatrical business if nothing else,
given CEO David Ellison's well known love of movies, but
he won't have much financial flexibility. Lawren Yun of Bernstein

(01:40:26):
estimates that it combined Paramount, Warner would be levered to
the hilt that would make the studio less likely to
take on a flyer on anything short of a sure
fire hit from a major film franchise. Translation, a lot
more superhero movies, a lot more superhero movies that I
know a lot of people have said enough with the

(01:40:46):
superhero movies, but you probably see more of that because
then they would get access to the full DC catalog
of Superman and Batman and all the other DC characters.
So yeah, it'll probably be a lot more of that.
But no, don't ever forget get the damage that Gavin
Newsom caused and is causing as people continue to flee
the stay to California and the movie industry ain't coming back,

(01:41:11):
not even with the seven hundred and fifty million dollars
in tax credits California just passed. That's a pittance compared
to the financial damage he caused to that industry. Don't
ever let him forget it. We certainly won't if he
ever runs for president. That's for damn sure. Batman's record
is abysmal, and the marquee industry in the state that

(01:41:32):
he governed, he destroyed it. He Gavin Newsom destroyed Hollywood.
It's a Dana Show. We'll be right back.

Speaker 9 (01:41:42):
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Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
Speaking of the actors and comedians, Dave Chappelle was talking
about DC recently and how the next National Guard was there.
He surprised everybody by putting out a Netflix special recently
and he was talking about that. This is what he said,
cut eighteen and I came here mad, ready to fight.
But when I drove to the city, it looked clean. Guys,

(01:42:15):
I gotta tell you, I.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
Gotta tell you it look clean, well better than the
last time.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Is sia, It looked clean. Yeah. No, that's the thing.
That's what happens. Not amazing how that happens when you
actually have people out there keeping people from being criminals.
I know we're all shocked by that. You and we're all,
we're all crazy. We don't have Congress though anymore? Do

(01:42:45):
you know that there's no Congress left? So the Nancy Pelosi,
the vampiric, won the speaker emeritus. This is apparently what's happened.
I didn't realize it, But who knew if they were
to be kind of a bigger deal if they've done
something like this but cut fifteen.

Speaker 12 (01:43:01):
But right now, right now, the Republicans and the Congress
have abolished the Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
They just do what the President insists that they do.
That will be over and as soon as we have
the gavel.

Speaker 12 (01:43:19):
I'm not you know, in terms of impeachment, unless you
have I've said to people, one person who is responsible
for the impeachments of Donald Trump is Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
They've abolished Congress. There's no Congress left. They've abolished it. Well,
she talks about the impeachment of Donald Trump, but if
he gets impeaches, his faults on him. Eric Swaalwell says
Democrats are voting on impeachment if they win the House
in the Senate. I wonder how much of this will
be the marquee mid term campaign strategy of these people,

(01:43:54):
I really do. I wonder how much of this because
it hasn't worked in the past. Saying that they're going
to prosecute Trump or saying they're going to impeach them.
It's not the message people want to hear. Affordabilities the
message people want to hear. But I don't think I
don't think these Democrats get that point. Also do I
personally do believe the economy will be better by midterms.
But we'll see how much of this they run on

(01:44:16):
and then what that means in terms of Democrat primaries.
Is it going to come down to a battle of
who hates Trump more? Is it all going to be
about Donald Trump heading into midterms? Probably most likely?

Speaker 11 (01:44:27):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
Got fourteen.

Speaker 11 (01:44:30):
Congersman, it sounds like you're saying that inherent contempt, holding
these officials in inherent contempt, or even the possible a
vote on impeachment of someone.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
Like Pambactage funding.

Speaker 11 (01:44:40):
Yeah, Orser team funding. It sounds like though that may
not happen until or if Democrats actually win the House
in twenty twenty six. Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
And so we have to telegraph that that's what we
are willing to do. If we are given the maturity.
So there you go. They're gonna telegraph it. They're gonna
run on that. That's going to be there campaign position.
They're gonna run on impeaching Donald Trump again, not affordability, nothing,
that's it. That's gonna be the issue. Personally, I think
it's a bad move, it's a bad strategy. But I'm

(01:45:12):
not gonna tell them that because I don't want them
to take control of the House, and I have no
doubts that if Democrats take control of the House representatives,
I have no doubts whatsoever. That's exactly what they'll do.
They'll put all their focus, all their energy, all their
efforts into going after Trump. And it's the bad, wrong message. Hey,
I hope you have a great New Year's Eve and
a great New Year. Twenty twenty six is gonna be fun,

(01:45:33):
so let's make it something. It's Rich Zioli. It's been
an honor filling in for Dana. Thank you so much
for listening. Steve, thanks for your help. Happy New Year,
and thank you
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