Trump's SCOTUS Win, Stocks Recover & MSNBC Still Weeping Over 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins
filling in. You can find Dana a lot of places,
Danaradio dot Com, d lash or Dana lash Radio on
x on Twitter, all kinds of places, rumble, YouTube, all
over the place. All right, let's get to some stories
today that are out there in the world. One of
the biggest ones is a debate as to whether or
not we did something horrible by sending someone that illegally

(00:24):
came into our country back to l Salvador, even though
he did have the legal right to stay here because
of a court ruling in twenty nineteen. The man's name
is Kilmore, Kilmar Abrago Garcia. Here's the lynchpin to all this.
And I guess the thing that people are going to
debate or argue about the most. Is he a member
of MS thirteen. The Trump administration says absolutely he is.

(00:49):
They actually say, specifically, if you haven't heard all of
this story, which I wouldn't be surprised if a lot
of people haven't heard all of the details that an
informant told them that much that there's an informant that
the administration has, or at least that our government has
that said several individuals were part of MS thirteen in
Long Island, and that this individual was actually the head

(01:11):
of that group. That's part of the reason, or maybe
the entirety of the reason that his home is rated
and that he's arrested. Now, what should have happened, And
actually the Trump administration admits this themselves. He should not
have been deported. He should be in jail here in
the United States, at least for now as far as
our legal system goes. Well, some other things are figured out.

(01:33):
But he's there, and he's in prison, and he may
not be coming back anytime soon. But I think what
really matters at the heart of this discussion not the
legal ease aspects of should this person be here or
there or what's going on, but the thing that a
lot of media is ignoring in what makes this a
complicated topic to talk about. Is the guy a gangster?

(01:54):
Is he a criminal? And I don't mean because he's
from El Salvador or anything that you can tie me
like always a racist because he said it this way. No,
I mean it because that's what the government actually thinks
was going on when they first chose to go after him.
Is that true? Or not is something I feel like
we should get to as far as answers go, before
any of this other stuff. But that's what we're debating

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right now. The Supreme Court did decide in a five
to four ruling yesterday that we do not need to
force El Salvador, not that we could even do that
if we wanted to to give him back to us
by I think it was today. There will be more
time to figure this out. And since he's now in
jail in El Salvador, the only way to get him
back would be to trade some sort of individual for him, Essentially,

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give another country someone they want that we have in jail,
so we can get someone that is in jail that
we supposedly want, even though he might just wind up
in jail here. It's a valuable question. And of course,
if the man is wrongly accused of certain things, I
think it changes the dynamic of the conversation a lot.
But if he's not, if he is guilty of the
things that we believe him to potentially be guilty of,

(03:02):
the alleged connection to MS thirteen, then I wonder if
mainstream media would care about this as much, or talk
about it as much, or be, as you know, up
in arms about the horribleness of it. But anyway, beyond
that story, which is a big deal and out there
in the world, there's also the discussion of tariffs, and
there's a few ways to take this. We are going

(03:23):
to have a guest on in about an hour or so,
e j Antoni from the Heritage Foundation. He's going to
dive deeper into the stuff. I don't know as well
as he does for sure, in what's going on with tariffs.
But before I even play audio, I want to make
this very simple, or at least attempt to make it
very simple for anyone out there listening. If the goal

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of the tariffs, which is what Trump has said they are,
is to eventually get better trade deals with all of
the countries in the world, more or less, that's what
it feels like we're trying to do. And if that
actually happens, and if it happens quickly, meaning that a
lot of these tariffs get you know, shrunk or totally
go away within the next month or two, would we

(04:04):
sit as the United States and consider it a victory event.
Right now, people are up in arms and they're terrified.
And actually you probably remember this from last week and
the fact that it definitely didn't come true yesterday if
you had Jim Kramer out there essentially saying that we
were going to have a Black Monday crash in our
stock market, something that didn't happen, And as of today,
the stock market is actually rebounding quite nicely on the

(04:27):
belief that these tariffs are not going to be long term,
that they're going to be short term and a negotiation,
you know, creating mechanism more so than anything else. But
here's a little bit of what Kramer said last week,
just to remind you.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Try to reach out and board these countries and companies
that play by the rules in the nineteen eighty seven
scenario where we went down three days and then down
twenty two percent on Monday, has.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
The most cogency. We will not have to wait out
too or we'll.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Know by Monday.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Fortunately, we had an excellent set of employment numbers. Say
at least it makes it less likely a crash will
necessarily lead to a recession. But if President Trump stays
in transient and does nothing to ameliorate the damage that
I saw these last two days.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
He did that, he did nothing not going to be
constructive here.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I will pay my anger, not only because I lived
through eighty seven. In the end, I came out okay,
I was seeing cash for the crash.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I know what this feels like.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Oh and if Europe moves against our fabulous tech companies
next week, then I will be furious that.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I promise you you can show no happen. Grammar will
be furious again. He predicted black Monday last week. It
did not happen yesterday for anyone unaware. And the stock
market definitely was volatile yesterday. I won't pretend that didn't exist.
But the truth of all of this again, and it's
not just necessarily that say we have a trade deficit

(05:42):
because of this one reason or that one reason. There
are a myriad of things, at least, I'm told, a
myriad of things that cause us to have a say,
negative ability to sell our product in certain countries to
the degree that we then also buy stuff from their places.
That's a very layman's way of saying it, but this

(06:03):
is true. There's a lot of restrictions, red tape, taxes
and other things that play into it beyond just simple
tariffs or even you know, lack of incentives for businesses
from the United States to do business other places, and
Trump would like to see a lot of that go away,
as would a lot of I think business leaders here
in the United States. Do they want it to happen
this way? No, A lot of people say that they

(06:24):
didn't want to see the tariffs play out the way
that they're playing out, at least in the short term.
But I do have a simple question for any individual
that believes that, how do you go about actually getting
done what Trump wants to get done. How do you
get people like Benjamin Netan Yahoo to say into a
microphone that Israel is going to be at the forefront

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of changing any sort of restrictions red tape, tariffs, etc.
On the United States so that they have an equal
playing field when it comes to trade, and actually even
encouraging other countries to do the same. This is something
that that Nyahu said recently after this meeting yesterday in
which Trump demonstrated He's not going to play favorites even

(07:05):
with Israel, someone that all the time we're told that
Trump is in, you know, the pocket of Benjamin Ettia
who we're in the pocket of Israel? He said in
response to a question, I'll go ahead and play it
that those seventeen percent tariffs are staying for now unless
some negotiating happens and a better trade dealer occurs between
US and between Israel.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
You plan to reduce the tariffs that your government put
on Israeli goods seventeen percent?

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Well, we're talking about a whole do trade maybe not,
maybe not, don't forget it. We help Israel a lot,
you know, we give Israel four million dollars a year.
That's a lot. I congratulations, by the way.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
That's not good, but we get Trump turned to Benjamin
at Yaho and said, congratulations. By the way. I can't
get over some of those moments.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
Isuel billions of dollars a year, billions, it's one of
the highest of Did we give a lot of We
give a lot of countries money. You wouldn't believe if
I said we give Afghanistan a lot of money? Didn't
it because I was a Biden deal, another Biden deal.
Not only did he embarrass us with that, but they
give them billions of dollars Afghanistan. Right, So, but we

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take good care of our friends, and we don't take
care of our enemies. We're not taking care of our
enemies anymore.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
But he Here's the thing, and I'll say it again plainly,
because I think it matters to be said that way.
Sometimes when well, I guess a lot of the time,
when Trump acts, many people, when President Trump acts, many
people in mainstream media or liberal leaning places want to
describe it as reckless. They want to describe it as,

(08:44):
you know, completely unintelligent. Saturday Night Live over the weekend,
when they were making fun of the tariffs, had several
jokes about how it made absolutely no sense why certain
percentages were certain places. And I don't want to dive
into the minutia of trying to convince to you that
it did make mathematical sense. That's unimportant. What I think
is more interesting is debating that ideology and the amount

(09:07):
of people who believe it that Trump is just simply
reckless and crazy and does things with you know, no
real thought going into it and not really sure what
the impact will be. And here's the other thing I'll say,
if other countries believe that same narrative, the one that
the left uses to demonize Trump or demonize conservatives who

(09:29):
would like to see better trade deals exist in our country,
If other countries believe that good is what I would
say good, because when you're dealing with a madman again,
not that I think that that's true of President Trump necessarily,
but you behave differently. And if you've seen news today
all morning, in fact reported many places, maybe not all

(09:50):
the places it should be, but a lot of places.
Several countries are lining up to make trade deals with
the United States in order to you know, prevent or
at least mitigate the amount of tariffs that are coming
their way because of what Trump said. Tons and tons
of countries, even you know, countries that we think are
allies or people that we were told there was no

(10:12):
reason to have tariffs against them, like the EU, are
coming forward and saying all right, we're ready to sit down,
We're ready to make a deal. I think the EU
specifically said that industrial tariffs are going to be a
net zero, zero for zero move if we can get
there on both sides. There's many other places, India, Taiwan, Zimbabwe,
so many countries are coming forward and saying, hey, I

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think Japan even said it yesterday too, that we would
like to see, you know, an end to this quickly.
And we have been more or less they're admitting taking
advantage of the United States for quite some time in
our trade deals. All of this happens because someone takes action,
and the person who's taking action is actually feared for
whatever reason, whether they think he's reckless or you know,

(10:57):
smartest guy in the room, feared by all of the
places that want this stuff to go away. When you
have a paper tiger in the office of president like Biden,
you have invasions. You have all kinds of things that
happen that are terrible, not just for us in this country,
but for the world. When you have someone that people
are unsure of how strong he'll react, then different things occur.

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And this is actually true even of some of the
bad actors. As far as the ongoing conflict in the
Middle East. You have leaders of places like Hesblah coming
out and saying that, hey, maybe we're going to lay
down our arms and not try to have a proxy
war with the United States right now because Trump is
in charge. That's also real that's also out there. Whether
it materializes or not, I'm not sure, but it's something

(11:44):
that's interesting, and it's something that demonstrates a need for
strength to exist and the lack of strength. The belief
that someone would fold if pressure is applied back to
them is the thing that puts US in our weakest
position as a country in the world and as a
place that wants to keep the US dollar as the
most important currency in the world, something a lot of

(12:06):
other places like China would like to see go away.
All right, Well, take a break on that. A lot
to get to today. Like I said, though, big stories
out there. Craig Collins filling in on the data show.

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Speaker 7 (13:20):
And now all of the news you would probably miss.
It's time for Danta's Quick five.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's right, this is the Dana Show. Time for a
quick five. My name is Craig Collins. Filling in. AI
has proven that fingerprints are not unique. This might upend
a whole lot of stuff within our society, unless AI
is mistaken, which apparently it has been before. But earth
dot com was one of the places that put out
the story. I don't know why I like that I
found it there. Our fingerprint analysis has been a dependable

(13:48):
tool in crime solving for more than a century. But
AI claims that we could get this wrong, and get
this wrong far more often than we thought we could
so far. This is something that's going to take a
lot more digesting for us to figure out if it's
actually in fact accurate as I said, but there is bias.
There's next steps that are all suggested by AI. And

(14:11):
again it's right now just a story on earth dot com.
I haven't seen it covered a lot of other places,
So maybe by another week AI will tell us that
fingerprints are incredibly unique. We'll see there, but that at
least is interesting to mention. Another story that I thought
was funny. San Francisco asked people in a community to
name a park that people in that community don't seem

(14:31):
to want. So the names were hilarious, or at least
the names that were most voted as likely to be
the name of the park, whether it was parkimcparkface, which
was just stupid, or this is stupid, let's not do this.
Someone who wrote in that the reason they want to
name it this is because they don't want to park
in that area. Really stupid park. Another one, No one

(14:53):
who lives here has voted for this park is yet
another name that jumped to the top of the list.
That's awesome. Never asked the Internet to do stuff or
they'll do stuff terribly is a lesson we've learned again
and again. Also a big story from yesterday. The NCAA
Championship game happened last night between Houston and Florida, and
somehow the last two possessions of the game, at least

(15:14):
for Houston, they didn't even get a shot off. This
is what it sounded like at the end of that game.
Oh wait, hold on, let me make sure you can
actually hear this, because I can hear it, but I
don't think you can hear it yet. So let's get
it back here. And then here we go.

Speaker 8 (15:30):
He won.

Speaker 9 (15:30):
He can't touch it.

Speaker 8 (15:31):
They can't.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
There's a fake shot, and then the ball was thrown
to the ground and the player who took the fake
shot then couldn't touch it. Just really stupid. What I
thought was interesting too, was head coach Kelvin Samson of
Houston saying, how could we not get a shot off?
In the postgame interview. Here's part of that.

Speaker 10 (15:54):
Yeah, I'm just going through those last two possessions morning.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
Thing else.

Speaker 11 (16:01):
Ye incomprehensible, and that situation we couldn't get a shocked
they get.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
A shot, Yeah, that'd be the basics of trying to
win a basketball game, you've got to shoot the ball
at some point and two possessions in a row at
the end of the game after leading for almost the
entire game, Houston couldn't even fire anything up. So that
was bad and certainly feel bad for them today, Florida
your national champions. All right, Well, take a break a
lot coming up. Greg Collins filling in on the Danish show.

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Speaker 1 (17:43):
This is the Danta Show. My name is Craig Collins,
filling in, thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff out there today to cover The Dana Show can
be found all kinds of places Dlash, Dana Lash Radio
to the best ways to stay connected to her on
x on Twitter for all things at Dana Lash, Let's
start here. I thought it was pretty interesting that yesterday

(18:05):
The New York Times put out an article crapping all
over Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior and his you know,
state by state tour in which I think he's going
to be talking about a desire to ban fluoride in
our drinking water. The reason this is so interesting and
The New York Times describes it as one of the
most important health practices in the country's history, is The

(18:27):
New York Times just a short time ago, just a
few months ago, or maybe this was a few years ago,
put out a story about how high fluoride exposure in
drinking water is linked to lower IQ and children their
own article and their own article about how maybe we
need to, you know, be more cautious. This is something
that's going viral online now, both articles together, because it

(18:49):
doesn't matter what the truth is, it matters who's in charge.
And then depending on who's in charge, places like The
New York Times, the failing on New York Times, if
I want to quote President Trump, those individuals will tell
you this is horrible or this is great just because
they like or don't like him, not because they actually
want to tell you the truth about what's going on.

(19:10):
That's horrible and terrible. And you've seen this, you knew
about this. I'm not telling you anything groundbreakingly new. It's
just funny to see those two standing next to each other.
What's also pretty humorous is this audio of Trump with
the Dodgers, the World Series champion Dodgers, which hurts me
as a Yankee fan to stay out loud, making a

(19:31):
joke and having a lot of the team kind of
laugh with him, and then having coverage of this essentially
either be non existent or say that Trump made a
horrible political joke during a moment that was supposed to
be a void of politics because it's a sports team
there to be given some sort of recognition from the President.
There was a rumor that the Dodgers wouldn't even go

(19:53):
to the White House, and then they did. But here's
the joke. Just so you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 9 (19:57):
Congratulations and others.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
We have a couple of senators here.

Speaker 9 (20:03):
I just don't particularly like them, so I won't introduce.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Over the course of this amazing season the members of
this team.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
He whispers back to the team. They know who they are,
by the way, which is making players laugh even more.
I didn't think it was that big a deal Washington
over the course of the you know, here's the thing.
He even says, it's Washington, so we're going to crap
on each other here. What I love about this, and
you don't have to love Trump to love these moments,

(20:41):
is that the levity in that situation should be easily
seen by everyone, by people who don't like the current
president and people who love them quite a bit. But
it can't be because media, again can't tell you the truth.
They have to tell you the negative version of whatever
they're seeing because of who's in charge. There's one more
demonstration of this from yesterday that I think is probably

(21:04):
the most profoundly ridiculous of all the things I might play.
But this is a talking head on MSNBC saying that
the biggest reason that where I guess, you know, down
the tubes here as a country which a lot of
us don't actually agree with, is because we were racist

(21:24):
or we are racist, or something to that effect. Here
we go. Here's the point made by Eddie Cloud, and
I do think it's ridiculous. And I don't even care
if I got his last name wrong. I don't care.
Here we go.

Speaker 12 (21:35):
We chose a felon who is more interested in loyalty,
who's more interested in retribution, who's more interested in grift
than in democracy, And we chose a felon because we
didn't want to elect a black woman.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
So to read that, to actually explicate that is.

Speaker 12 (21:58):
To say we would rather destroy the republic.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
There's a few ways to argue this. I was thinking
about this too when I heard this audio for the
first time yesterday, of like how I would discuss how
stupid it is on this very show filling in for
Dana lash And the first thing I will say, and
I'm not saying that I believe this actually would have happened.
You know that Trump wouldn't have beaten the person, but

(22:23):
people believed that the best candidate for the Democratic Party
was definitely not Biden and was definitely not Harris, but
it was actually a black woman, Michelle Obama, who did
not want to run. That's what a lot of people believed.
That's what a lot of Democrats, That's who a lot
of Democrats said they would have voted for. It is
interesting to hear someone on television completely ignore that idea,

(22:48):
to accuse America of being racist because it would refuse
to elect a black woman even though it elected a
black man twice. So again, I get confused in these
moments because the real that people didn't elect Kamala Harris
and people chose to elect Trump at least one of them.
There are several is that Harris was a terrible candidate,

(23:09):
who said things that made no sense, who spoke in
these crazy, what I think I called them at the time,
you know, drunken fortune cookie ways of speaking. Again, not
a person who deserved to be elected to the office
of president, and someone who was even thrown in there
at the last minute, I think sort of by her
own design. She wanted to usurp the former president and

(23:31):
take his nomination from him, but partly because we also
were lied to for a while of how terrible Biden's
mind was. A lot of conservatives saw it, a lot
of people in conservative media saw it, but the rest
of media pretended that Biden was fine right up to
the very end there. So there are so many reasons
why Harris didn't win. None of them are racism, but

(23:53):
it seems that people have to see a racism in
order to make a point in our society. Jasmine Kroc
another example of this, talking I think just the other
day the congress person in front of a crowd at
a Baptist church about how we are not going to
be the ones doing farm work, and that we have

(24:14):
to have illegal people here in this country to do
the farm work for us. This is her narrative and
not mine per se. Here I'll play a little bit
of the audio.

Speaker 13 (24:22):
So I have to go around the country and educate
people about what immigrants do for this country, or the
fact that we are a country of immigrants.

Speaker 9 (24:31):
Right The fact is, ain't none of y'all trying to
go a farm right now? Okay, so I'm lying, raise
your hands.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
She's looking very mad at you.

Speaker 9 (24:46):
Cry you not we done picking kit?

Speaker 1 (24:52):
So a few things. There's a lot of ways to
argue this too, if you want to play ball or
just say that she's being an idiot publicly. One of
them is that cotton isn't picked by anyone in twenty
twenty five. We have machines that do that, so no
one actually does that. I know she's just making a joke,
but I just figured i'd throw it out there in
case it helps her make a different joke in the future,
A weird joke at that. Also, there is a visa program,

(25:15):
the H two, a visa program that allows people to
temporarily have status here in the United States to work
specifically on farms. The US agricultural industry has quite a
few people who do this. So again there's actually a
program to allow you to have legal status, which then
also means you'd get a livable wage. The company has
to prove that it can't hire Americans to do the

(25:37):
job that no one wants the gig, etc. Etc. But
again there is a way around that. And then finally,
the other thing that's so ridiculous about this that I
can't get over. I can't get over this one every
time that Democrats say it is essentially they're the party
of exploiting people they don't want to be or I
don't think that they're trying to put that at the

(25:58):
forefront of their message, but it's simply true. If you're
yelling out loud that people have to be here in
this country illegally in order to do the work that
none of us want to do at the wages that
none of us want to take to do that work,
then you're begging for them to be taken advantage of
and seeming as though that's an okay position to be had.

(26:18):
And in the world of the woke, you would think
that that would be the worst thing ever. You would
think that it'd be odd for conservatives excuse me to
be the ones pointing that out, that you're begging for
more people to be taken advantage of and get paid
horrible sums of money to do important things in our society,
and you're doing it proudly. I do think most Americans

(26:41):
still agree, and I think most surveys back this up
right now, that we want to change the way that
immigration in our country works. We don't want to have
as many people here illegally. This is something that most
Americans agree with, and even more so, people are saying
the way we go about it is one that they support.
They're happy with the decision making of the current administration

(27:01):
to actually have a war against a lot of this stuff.
Now there's one more piece of audio that is also
making the rounds, and this is I guess a segment
about race. Unintentionally, as a white dude that's on the
radio with you today filling in for data, I don't
necessarily want to dive into race, not because I'm afraid

(27:21):
of it, but because it's not on my mind twenty
four to seven, twenty four hours a day, seven days
a week. It's just not a thing I think about
as much as some other people seem to be thinking
about this, and I'm sure they'd call that white privilege.
That I don't even think about race as much as
others do. But there's some horrific things that happen in
our society that are couched in this idea that, well,

(27:44):
for some reason, this white person has to be racist
or horrible, so whatever happened is okay. This is a
viral rant. I think millions of people have seen this.
Now some woman, she's a black woman. I don't know
if you needed that information, but I'm going to put
it out there because it is there that's saying that
Austin Metcalf deserved what he got. Austin Metcalf is the

(28:06):
young man who was stabbed and killed at a high
school sporting event. He's a white man. He was killed
by a black student, a black man at this event,
both of them, you know, high school aged, and it's
a horrible, horrible story. There was some sort of conflict
that existed and one person chose to turn that conflict

(28:28):
into something with deadly force. And people are actually in
support of the person who killed this guy who killed
Austin Metcalf because they believe that racism played a larger
role in this scenario than it did, or they have
any proof whatsoever to show that it did. Not that
it would even matter because one person wasn't trying to
kill someone else and the other person used deadly force

(28:51):
against them. This is inherently wrong in our society. We
should all see this. It doesn't matter what the people
look like. It doesn't matter what you know race this
individual or that individual is. It matters if someone takes
what could be a small conflict and turns it into
the death of an individual that should have a resounding
rejection in our society, and somehow it doesn't.

Speaker 14 (29:16):
Y'all not gonna make me believe or feel any kind
of sympathy for also met health at all. He put
his hands on a young man when he should have
kept them hands for himself. When the young man told
him touch me, and see you bet not touch me.
That meant that I don't want you in my space.
I don't want you touching me.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
You can't kill somebody for this. You can't just take
someone's life who said you're not in the place you
need to be in. I've got to move you out
of here, or whatever version you want it to be
and then physically confront someone. It can't immediately go to murder.
You actually have to be in a grave danger state
yourself in order to do that. You can't just say
out loud, if you touch me, I'm going to kill you,

(29:59):
and then do it that and have that make you
innocent of the crime. A little more.

Speaker 9 (30:03):
Rosa park days is over.

Speaker 14 (30:06):
You cannot think that you can move somebody out of
a seat that you don't own and think that it's
going to be okay. And you can't determine how I'm
going to retaliate on you when you put your hands
on me in an aggressive manner.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yes, you can determine how you retaliate. I mean, it's
called law. It's how we actually determine everything in our society.
By that simple way of thinking, I could do whatever
I want. Say I didn't like that speeding tickets exist,
and I set out loud in my car, Hey I'm
going to speed now. I'm not allowed to then go
speeding down the highway and cause an accident. That's not

(30:38):
something I'm allowed to do because I announced it first.
That's not how this stuff works. I'm trying to find
levity in a moment that I find uniquely horrific, and
I think it's one because a lot of individuals in
our society, and I don't mean individuals who look any
certain way before you attack me for being racist and
saying this, but have race, or have sex, or have

(30:59):
something at the forefront of their mind going into an
interaction before anything happens, before you judge a person based
on their character or the things they say or the
way they behave in your brain you're thinking about how
this white person or this man or this whoever can't
possibly be a good person. So whenever they say or

(31:20):
do something that I don't like, well, now it's because
they're a horrible, terrible person, and that's awful. In our society,
it's very easy for us to determine that it's wrong,
and yet it exists, and there's tons of videos like
this out there of people advocating for a murderer because
he got in a fight with a white kid that
they're deciding somehow was racist and bad without any details

(31:43):
or ability to understand that. We need to rethink that
in society, I guess, is the whole point of the
end part of this discussion, and also everything that Jasmine
Crockett said about how we need to just take advantage
of people that's also insane. All right, quick break a
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins,
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movie crushed the box office one hundred and fifty million
plus dollars I brought in I think just domestically, whole
bunch of other one's sixty two I think is actually

(34:02):
the updated number now over one hundred million. You know, internationally,
the movie's doing amazing, apparently mostly with young people who
play this video game. I didn't go see Minecraft, and
one moment in the movie is causing people to be
absolute morons, where they scream and yell and throw stuff
at the screen. Jack Black says a phrase chicken jockey.

(34:23):
I'll go ahead and play it, and then the theater
goes nuts. That's the nuts of the theater here, right,
Let's get back to the beginning. Here's the thing. A
lot of people are even defending this, saying that the
kids are excited and that the you know, emotions of
seeing their favorite video game and a bunch of memes

(34:47):
or like the words in a meme up on the
screen is something that's making them go crazy. Don't do this.
That's my version of a reaction to this. This is
beyond dumb to throw stuff and have cops involved in
escorting p lot of theaters. But it is interesting to
see the gigantic success of the Minecraft movie and then

(35:07):
compare that to the tremendous failure of the Snow White movie,
one that would have been I assume, widely popular if
it didn't have a horrible person that they start at
the head of the movie, crapping on the idea of
the movie itself, and then a whole bunch of other
like woke issues throughout a minecraft ignored all that. There's
no wokeness from what I've seen in a movie just

(35:30):
about a video game. So you can succeed in our society,
and you can succeed on both sides of the aisle
if you don't inject politics into something that we want
to escape when we go to a movie theater in
the first place. We want to get rid of all
that stuff in our society. Apparently this is a good
lesson on a couple in a couple ways, but also
a good moment to tell young kids to not be

(35:52):
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One of the biggest discussions over the last twenty four hours,
maybe more in the world of media and Washington than

(37:49):
I think people across their kitchen table, is the deportation
of a man Kilmar Abrego Garcia to El Salvador. He's
in prison and Elsie Salvador. Now that even the Trump
administration is saying was a clerical error. It shouldn't have
happened exactly the way it did. But nonetheless, the thing
that's being lost by a lot of the places that

(38:11):
are saying how horrible and terrible and how everyone and
anyone is now going to be potentially subject to being
sent out of the country. Is that the person is
an alleged member of MS thirteen, a notorious gang created
actually by people from El Salvador in the United States
that then branched out to other parts of Central America.
But he's supposedly, or at least you know, potentially the

(38:34):
leader of the Long Island branch of MS thirteen. If
that winds up being true, I don't think we'll miss
him all that much. That he's not in this country anymore.
That's something that people seem reluctant to add into the story.
The reason he was arrested in the first place. And
if the United States is you know, suspicious of this,
they'd have him in jail here instead of in jail there,

(38:57):
which means that he wouldn't be at home with his family,
which is what a lot of people, I think, in
certain places want the narrative to be that we took
a completely innocent man out of bed at night from
his family, sent him to a prison in El Salvador,
and he's there and he shouldn't be in any trouble whatsoever.
That narrative is not true, or at least appears most

(39:17):
likely to not be true. But here's a little bit
of how Joe Scarborough and others claim that this is
horrible and terrible and about to happen to everyone. Hold
on once to hear.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
We're having people off the streets.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Let's actually play it again for you to actually hear it.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
When you look at some of these extreme instances of
grabbing people in the middle night, grabbing people off the streets,
sending them down to El Salvador. I think ed brings
up a great point. It's almost like the administration wants
these images out there and wants the reaction from Democrats,
and wants the reaction from the courts, and wants the

(39:50):
reaction from the media because it does compensate for lower numbers.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
And he goes on to say that the amount of
people being deported is part of those lower numbers. There's
a point that Scarborough is accidentally making that I actually
agree with. And he's definitely describing the person the way
I said that. A lot of left leaning media will
describe him as someone just snatched off the street in
the middle of the night and sent to prison in
El Salvador for no reason whatsoever, which again not true.

(40:21):
The person illegally entered our country in the early twenty
tens was then granted, I think in twenty nineteen the
ability to stay because they would likely be persecuted in
El Salvador, whether or not that's for crimes that they
actually committed, is something that's not necessarily agreed upon, I
think by experts out there, but now suspicious of being

(40:41):
a leader of MS thirteen at least that's why we
raid his home and then deport him again in twenty
twenty five. Someone who's not legally in our country at
least wasn't legally in our country for a long time
before getting essentially a stay by a court system in
twenty nineteen. All of that matters. All that is to
be talked about not an issue here. All Scarborough wants

(41:03):
to say is that this is an example, and that
part I actually agree with. I do think that more
people will stop coming to our country illegally if they
believe that there will be a ramification for that behavior,
something that I think I simply believe is the point.
It's the whole point. It's that you want there to
be a deterrent that causes people to not break the law.

(41:26):
This topic was also discussed on CNN, and one of
the probably best voices on said CNN, Scott Jennings, had
a pretty simple reaction to the debate about this. Here's
his way of talking to liberals, to people that are
saying this is horrible and about to be happening to you,
by saying that that's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
That's not fair, and it can happen to anybody, and
if we don't stop it now, our scope will get bigger.

Speaker 10 (41:52):
And then it will happen to you, and then you'll
have a problem with I think also, you're conflating legal
American citizens with people who came here illegally. We do
this all the time in these debates. We do, and
I think what the administration is trying to do is
be as aggressive as possible at deporting different kinds of populations.
One people who've committed heinous violent crimes. Number two, people

(42:13):
that were violent before they came here, number three, anyone
who came here illegally. I mean, look, I'm sorry, but
if you came here illegally, no matter how well intentioned
you were, there's probably a decent chance you're going to
be sent back. And that's what the administration clearly communicated
to the American people in the election. They overwhelmingly voted
for it, and it's not particularly a controversial matter.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
It's not a controversial matter. That is absolutely true. Most
Americans agree that if you came here illegally, you shouldn't
get to stay, just because that's not something that should happen.
I am a proponent for changing some ways that people
legally get into our country. I say that, even though
I know people disagree with it. I think there are
valuable ways to discuss how to change that process. But

(42:53):
before you do that, you can't do that after you've
already allowed something to be broken, like the Biden administration
did with the amount of peaceple just crossing into our
country illegally. You have to actually fix the problem first
before you can then address any other issues that also matters.
Completely void from this conversation, though, but once again, the
person at the heart of the discussion is someone who

(43:15):
allegedly is tied to one of the most violent, notorious
gangs that we have here in our country. They are
not actually proven in a court of law to be
someone who has acted in any of those ways, and
they deny it that all matters. But whether or not
we can get to the heart of the answer to
that question and the person, the informant who told the

(43:36):
government that this individual was part of MS thirteen, all
of that has to get to the light of day
before we have an intelligent conversation about this, because I
don't think a lot of Americans will care if someone
that was sent out of our country is someone that
has also been involved in a lot of horrible criminal activity,

(43:56):
either before or after getting here. That's not a thing
that I think people would beg for us to do
differently if that winds up being the case. And by
the way, all that stuff would make you able to
be deported in the first place too, But anyway, I digress.
It does matter. The Supreme Court had to have a
ruling on this to suspend a midnight deadline that would

(44:18):
have caused the United States to at least try to
bring this person back from prison in El Salvador, something
that's not simply easy. All right, There's one other piece
of audio I really want to play. I found this
very interesting. This is a democratic politician talking about a
doge and making a comparison that made a whole lot
of people say what now when he said this part

(44:40):
out loud.

Speaker 11 (44:42):
But the problem I have with this hearing is this
is an important argument, but it pales in comparison to
what's going on right now with Americans privacy, with Americans
national security. We're talking out whether there should be a
warrant to search a certain amount of information lawfully collected

(45:08):
from foreigners. It's not a broad set of information, and
yet some you know, non government employee, Elon Musk, is
getting access to every single American's personal identification information. His employees,

(45:31):
some of whom have been who have already been found
to have stolen information from one company to bring to
another competitor, are getting access to americans personal identification information,
whether it be through the Social Security Administration, it be.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Through something that a lot of other government officials already have,
the Department of Treasury.

Speaker 11 (45:53):
So it feels like this hearing, while important, is somewhat
misguided at this time when the privacy considerations of every
American is at risk, rather than a very narrowly tailored
set of Americans who are communicating with foreigners who are

(46:14):
suspected or potentially suspected of being involved.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah, okay, I'm good he's essentially saying the FED is
doing warrantless surveillance surveillance of Americans, and that that's okay,
that's fine, because it pales in comparison his own words
to the importance of Doge and what they're doing to
figure out whether or not people should be getting, say,
retirement benefits, if they're not alive anymore. That seems like

(46:40):
a thing to actually look into a little bit. I
love the non elected thing with Elon Musk. I love
how often people say that about Doge and about him,
because there's a whole bunch of politicians or people in
politics that weren't elected by us. Whether or not we
have Congress vote in them is not the same thing

(47:01):
as us as a group actually deciding to put people
in positions of power or take them out of said
positions of power. That's all the Washington stuff that happens
behind closed doors. That is another thing that Americans voted
against that we'd like to see stop happening, and Elon
Musk seems to be at the heart of it. The
one thing I've said to friends of mine or you know,

(47:23):
people who might disagree with some of this stuff, I'm
not sure that i'd call them all friends, but people
that I have conversations with about this sort of thing.
The one thing I've said to them is you need
people to be outside of this system to actually fix it.
You can't have just Washington insiders. You can't have people
put in positions that they expected to be put in,
who had years and years of you know, working their

(47:45):
way up whatever organization it is, or whatever bureaucratic part
of our government exists, and then believe that they're actually
going to turn on their friends. Because in order to
climb those horrible ladders in that terrible place of Washington, DC,
you need to make a lot of deals and make
a lot of friends, and a lot of people that
you can't hurt, or that you owe, or that have

(48:06):
some dirt on you, that are going to turn over
against you if you do anything to harm them. Actually,
we're seeing this play out, I believe in a different way.
So right now, because of the tariffs, one other thing
I'll say about it, and we're going to get to
a guest in about twenty minutes or so that's going
to dive into it a little bit deeper. With us,
you have four or five Republican senators partnering with Democratic

(48:28):
senators in trying to reduce the ability for Trump to
impose tariffs, for any president to impose tariffs. They want
to make this something that Congress has to vote on.
The reason that Trump is going to fight this or
would even veto it if it actually came to his
desk as a bill that got passed somehow is because
it allows for all of those people who owe somebody

(48:50):
else to be the person that's protecting say this foreign
government or that foreign government, the Bob Menendezes of the world,
the senator who got caught with gold bars in his
house from another country. These individuals are the ones who
can try to protect your buddy over here or your
you know, valuable relationship over there by forcing the bureaucratic

(49:11):
process to be too convoluted for us to do something
that actually causes, you know, a eventual benefit, an action
that's taken that makes someone actually play ball that believes
they don't have to. And this is so very well
demonstrated in Dan Goldman's point about how he sees warrantless
surveillance of Americans by the FED as something that pales

(49:35):
in comparison to anything that Doge might do. It's just insane.
We're allowed to commit sins, you're not to is essentially
the message from government every day and these bureaucratic, you know,
individuals that we're trying to get fired from all kinds
of jobs by putting well Trump in office and then
Trump putting Elon in charge of an organization that wants

(49:55):
to rid the government of waste, fraud, abuse, something that
Democrats usually I agree with. All right, quick break, A
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And now all of the news you would probably miss.
It's time for Danta's Quick five.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
That's right, time for the quick five. This is the
Data show. My name is Craig Collins. I saw a
headline that I probably don't understand very well, but I'm
just going to throw it out there. The Moon is
moving away from Earth and causing major changes in our time.
This is according to a few different scientific places on
the Internet. Out there, scientists are saying that gravity, as

(52:16):
well as tidal forces and other things are responsible for
pushing the Moon further away from our planet. On that
won't be good in some ways, at least, that's what
they're saying right now. You know what I love about
these stories. It demonstrates how little we actually understand and
how many times surprising things happen that we don't at
all expect, even as we claim to be able to

(52:37):
understand and project or project predict excuse me everything. This
could be climate change, whatever you want it to be.
I just love it. The moon is moving further away
from us and that's maybe not good. Thank you for
the headline. Science. Another story out there that I saw
that I thought was interesting. Elon Musk will be cracking
down on parody accounts on x that do not admit

(53:00):
that they're parodies people that pretend to be real individuals
or pretend to be you know, government officials that are
not them. This is different than allowing for parody accounts
that are doing it for comedy's sake and announcing that
they're a parody account. But Elon says that esk is
X is going to do away with some of these
things because they're you know, not part of the public good,

(53:21):
or they're not taking part in the conversation that he
wants to be, you know, the town square form that
X is. People are actually bashing this, which I found
amazing too, because they say that Elon had the ability
to do this before, and he took a part all
the parts of Twitter that were censoring people both real
and fake, instead trying to have it be a more

(53:44):
focused thing.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
I do.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
I really like that, and I think that it'll probably
be better for Twitter if they do remove some accounts
that do trick people into thinking they're real from time
to time, something that does happen on the internet. Good
luck to Elon. It's not going to be easy to do,
but I do think it's interesting that people are somehow
mad about this. One other quick five topic that I
really thought was interesting, a woman on social media, an influencer,

(54:07):
jumped into the water somewhere in the world and wound
up getting stung by a jellyfish. I think this was
outside Australia, one of the most venomous animals in the world.
They boxed jellyfish, and she has all that up on
our social media page, got tons of clicks, tons of likes. Luckily,
she's okay because there was a doctor and a nurse
on board her boat that was traveling in this area.

(54:30):
But she essentially said that she is happy to be
alive and also happy to be incredibly virally popular, which
begs the question are other people going to do this
on purpose? I hope the answer is no. I pray
the answer is no. Part of me already knows it's
not going to be no. But this woman survived and
then left her bad moments all over the internet for

(54:50):
all of us to see. Right quick break, a lot
coming up. Ej Antoni of the Heritage Foundation. Next on
The Dana Show, Craig Collins filling in.

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dive into tariffs, something I've talked about a little bit
throughout the show so far, but we're going to bring
in an expert, Doctor e J and Tony is an
economist with the Heritage Foundation. Welcome to the show, Doctor
and Toni.

Speaker 8 (56:24):
Greg, thank you so much for having me. It's a
pleasure to be here with you.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
No problem, thrilled to have you on. So the first
thing I want to talk about simply is tariffs, the
end result of the intention of those for President Trump.
What we've seen so far in the last few days,
there was no Black Monday, so at least that's a
good sign. What are you seeing as far as the tariffs,
the intention of them, all of that. Please give me

(56:48):
all of your insight.

Speaker 8 (56:50):
Well, first off, we got to say the reason there
was no Black Monday is because Jim Cramer said there
would be one that everything he says us wrong.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
So true.

Speaker 8 (56:57):
There you go, Yes, Mark basically flat on the day,
and you know we had a big jump today. Most
of that rally has gone away. But whatever the case,
you know, why have markets been in more or less
in prefall though? In all seriousness, Craig, the reason for
that is essentially because we thought we were going to
get reciprocal tariffs from the White House. In other words,

(57:19):
they told us they were basically going to be holding
up a mirror that showed other countries what they were
doing to us. If other countries were blocking our access
to their consumer markets, then that's what we were going
to do to them. And it was all supposed to
be in an effort to force those other countries to
reduce their barriers to trade. That's good for our exporters,
it's good for American employees, et cetera. And instead what

(57:42):
we got we're these teriff rates that don't really have
anything to do with trade barriers. Unfortunately, and so because
markets now have no idea how the goalposts are going
to be moved from here, people have a great deal
of uncertainty, and markets hate uncertainty. A lot of people,
in fact, are pricing in a recession at this point.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Yeah. Are you seeing, though, with a lot of the
announcements today and yesterday of countries that are willing to
negotiate better trade deals with the United States because of
the threat of tariffs a chance, and I think the
stock market yesterday and today sort of remounted under this
assumption that the tariffs will be used as a negotiation
tool and will not be a long lasting punishment, say

(58:24):
from the United States, to both our friends and our
enemies in the world of trade. Are you seeing any
of that play out?

Speaker 8 (58:31):
We are seeing an increasing probability of that being priced in. Craig,
You're absolutely right where we're hoping that the original plan
is what they're going to follow through on. In other words,
it's this is all supposed to force other countries, you know,
to come to the negotiating table so that we can
get them to drop their tariff, to drop their non

(58:51):
tariff barriers. That it includes things like getting them to
stop currency manipulation, et cetera. So all of these things
are supposed to give us more free trade, not lesson
That's great for everybody. It's great for Main Street, Wall Street,
and everyone in between.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Well, when you look at the trade deficit, which I know,
in most simplistic terms is just the amount that we
import versus the amount that we export from places, although
as you pointed out, there's a lot of reasons that
could happen. We have significant deficits with a whole lot
of these countries, China of course the highest among them
two hundred and seventy billion dollars. Part of what I
understood the tariffs to be was sort of a reflection

(59:29):
of what our trade deficit is, more so than just
those simplistic barriers to trading itself. I'm sure that you,
as an economist, would see it much differently than that,
but that was what I understood. Part of the inspiration
for this was, and the goal is to get to
a place where, say, we're exporting more to all of
these countries that, like China, are doing so much of

(59:50):
the job taking and not a lot of the job
creating for us here.

Speaker 8 (59:55):
No, that's a good point, and that's actually exactly how
they came up with these figures. Did not look at
the tariff and non tariff barriers that other countries are imposing.
All they looked at, in fact, was that balance of trade,
the imports versus the exports, and so the problem with
doing that, though, there's a couple issues with it. Number One,
they didn't even consider services. They're only looking at products.

(01:00:17):
So you know, maybe there's a country where we buy
a lot of shoes from them, but then we sell
them financial services. In fact, we sell them in financial
services much more than we buy from them in shoes,
and so overall that's actually a net surplus in terms
of trade. The problem with this tariff schedule is that
for those types of countries, we actually just applied a

(01:00:38):
punitively high teriff rate. So it's unclear in a lot
of ways, Craig, how these tariff rates are going to
accomplish any of the goals the White House is laid out,
whether it's reciprocity or even balancing trade.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Sure, absolutely, I understand what you're saying. I have one
of the questions for you, and this is the sort
of outside the box way of asking this. And I
know that it's sort of a hallmark of a president
Trump and also how a lot of the left will
describe and talk about him when you take action as
opposed to threatening to take action. You never take like
the Biden administration did on a wide variety of issues.

(01:01:12):
Does it cause people to show up in a very
different way, you negotiate very differently, and cause the United
States to get the best possible deals we could get,
say a few months from now. Could all of this,
in the long run be something that even someone like you,
an expert in this field, look back at and say,
you know what, whether he did it on purpose or
by accident, it worked because of X, Y and Z.

(01:01:35):
Is there a potential for that the broad ranging tariffs
to cause people to understand that Trump is someone that
takes far more action than most leaders do, and because
of that, you're going to have to play ball with
him more than you would anyone else.

Speaker 8 (01:01:50):
Oh, Craig, I think that analysis of yours is spot on.
That's exactly right. Because Trump is essentially such a loose cannon.
Everyone is afraid of him, and so they're much more
willing to negotiate. That's exactly right.

Speaker 11 (01:02:06):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:02:06):
It's just like when he said to Mexico, the wall
just got ten feet taller. China said, oh, yeah, you're
gonna If you're gonna put tariffs us, we're gonna put
tariffs on you and what did Hump do? He said, fine,
you just got another fifty percent, buddy. So I mean, yeah,
there is a huge advantage here to the way President
Trump negotiates these things, and that's really positive. I just

(01:02:27):
hope that they can get pro growth items across the
finish line. In other words, get the tax cuts done,
get regulation cuts done. Most of all, get this government
spending cuts done, because all of those things are gonna
help grow the economy, grow jobs, increase wages, and that'll
have very positive effects which will offset any potential negative

(01:02:47):
effects in the short run from the tariff. So we
got to do it all at once to make this
really successful for Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Absolutely at real ej Antonia is where people can follow
you on x on Twitter, and you've been putting out
a lot of information today that I thought was very
interesting about the amount of credit card debt or the
ability for consumers to gain more you know, available debt
in their own portfolios. So many ways in which you're
sort of pointing to the US economy is not being

(01:03:15):
as strong as we want it to be. Is now
a terrible time to be waging a trade war with China?
Or are they in a weaker position than us in
all of this tariff stuff going on. Is your assessment
that the United States should be putting some of this
off because of our own vulnerability or you know, essentially
is everyone going to blink first?

Speaker 8 (01:03:34):
Well, I think this is This is part of the
gamble the president is taking. Right when it comes to
China specifically, you know, they are, I think in a
weaker position. We are the debtor nation in terms of
trade here. That actually is a strength, believer or not
not a weakness. So there's that. China is also already
in recession. We may be heading towards one, but we're
probably not there yet. On top of that, the Chinese

(01:03:56):
Central Bank, basically their version of the federal Reserve, is
rushing to devalue their currency in order to help offset
a lot of the effects of these tariffs. Now that
may be positive for them in the short run, but
in the long run it's going to cause runaway inflation
like we had here for four years. So you know, again,
Trump definitely has a strong negotiating hand here. The issue

(01:04:18):
is that he is not just negotiating with China. He
just declared basically warn everyone at once. So again, part
of the gamble here is banking on a lot of
countries coming to the table early, and fortunately for US,
it looks like they're already doing that, with Japan probably
first among them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Yeah, Japan and Israel are two of the very first
countries to be willing to it. Sounds like find you know,
common ground very quickly. In Israel is a kind of
surprise country for Trump to be as strong against as
he was at least in the tariffs. One last thing
for you, and it's beyond the tariff conversation and international trade.
It's really about the economy here at home. The jobs
report numbers were pretty good, much better than expected, but

(01:04:58):
there are these signs that our economy is in a
not so great place, I think, signs like you're pointing
out the consumer credit decline on your you know, Twitter
page earlier today, et cetera. So for you, in the
long run, beyond the tariff, what are some of the
other things that are are risks for the US economy

(01:05:18):
in ways for us to avoid any sort of you know,
damage beyond just the tariff issues.

Speaker 8 (01:05:25):
Well, debt is probably the biggest problem, Craig. We have
not only massive government debt, but we have massive consumer debt.
And basically, you know, we can look at what a
lot of families have had to do, because the same
rationale applies to the federal level. A lot of families,
to cope with the high cost of living, have racked
up tons and tons of credit card debt, well over
a trillion dollars in aggregate, and so now it's costing

(01:05:49):
us about three hundred service that debt. In other words,
that's what you're paying each year in finance charges on
credit cards before you can even put a dime towards principle,
the same thing is happening with the national debt. The
federal government is so deeply in debt over thirty six
trillion dollars, that we're spending about one point two trillion

(01:06:09):
just to service it. Again, that's just the interest expence, and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
We might have lost j antni there are you still there?
Go ahead, go ahead to ask that one more time.
We lost your phone? Yes, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:06:20):
So we basically we have to get the government spending
down in order to get the deficit down and ultimately
start attacking the debt because eventually the interest expense is
just going to bury us. So that's really really key.
You know in this whole conversation here, and if you
can get that government spending down, Craig, you're also going
to reduce inflation. And now families don't need to spend

(01:06:42):
as much, and families have more money to pay down
their credit card debt. So again, we got to get
these spending levels down. It's a key part of the
pro growth agenda.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Awesome, Thank you so much, doctor e j Antoni with
the Heritage Foundation giving us a little bit more information
on everything going on in the world of tariffs. You
did that better than I. Good Bud. I have no
idea some of how this stuff works, and you help
this out of there.

Speaker 8 (01:07:04):
Craig, Thanks Rich, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Sure, no problem. We'll take a quick break a lot more.
Craig Collins filling in on the data show.

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Speaker 9 (01:08:14):
It's his laugh mission to make bad decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
It's time for Florida Man. That's right, this is the
Dana Show and it is time for Florida Man. My
name is Craig Collins filling in. I have a few
of them today. The first one a Florida guy who
could not get an interview at a company He couldn't
get them to call him back, nothing like that. So
what does he decide to do. He throws bottles of
pea at workers and also at the business itself, which

(01:08:42):
apparently his plan was to get an interview by attacking
people with something disgusting. That gets you arrested, That gets
you a whole lot of things in Florida, and probably
also hurts your ability to have another employer in the
future interview you because of the threat of a pea
attack happening again. Florida man through bottles of his own
urine at people. That's a real thing that happened. You

(01:09:04):
know what I love about the Florida stories, by the way,
is just the sort of eclecticness of them. You got
this guy over here attacking people with bottles of disgusting things.
You also have a bunch of cows that got loose
in part of rural Florida. Thirteen cows just wandering around
the highway there in Martin County. A sheriff said they

(01:09:25):
were looking for who owns the cows. Someone is unsure
as to who actually is in charge of these bovine
and we need you to pick them up because they're
causing traffic issues, but thirteen cows just wandering around is
a real story. Also out of Florida. Again, I love
how unique this place is. A group of teens in
Florida were arrested for attacking a mall easter bunny. This

(01:09:48):
is a real story. I think Wink News and other
places put this out there. Group of teenagers was accused
of doing this in Naples, Florida, because they thought it
would be funny. A fourteen year old boy was cited
and two others thirteen year old boys arrested for battery.
But I don't get over on. What maybe you don't
get over to is the age of the people and
how much social media has turned a lot of people

(01:10:10):
into idiots and morons and jerks, and this would probably
be the case here. But they thought it was funny
to attack an Easter bunny at a mall at Coastland Center,
and they got in trouble for that. Because good Hopefully
that's the sort of thing that happens a lot more
more Florida man stories. I thought this was interesting. A
Florida man was run over by a vehicle while sunbathing

(01:10:31):
at a beach. This is not the kind of thing
you expect to happen, say, when you go to the beach.
The man is supposed to be in a stable condition
at the ICU, so hopefully he's going to be okay.
But the guy thirty three years old was just sitting
in minding his own business when a vehicle drew him
by a sixty one year old woman accidentally drove over him.

(01:10:55):
She was driving a jeep, which was outside the designated
travel lines. Of course it will in the area. There's
even a photo of the guy in the ICU sort of,
you know, trying to look at the camera and be okay,
which I think he told all the people on social
media was what was going on there. But it's crazy.
And even the quote I just got a couple I

(01:11:16):
just got a jeep a couple of weeks ago, and
this was something I wanted to do, I said the
person who was driving it. All of a sudden, a
tire was going over my head, says the guy who
got hit with the vehicle, And he said that he
was just laying there face first, crying and screaming. That's
got to be a surreal moment to be on a
beach and have a jeep drive over you. And then

(01:11:37):
also feel as though that's somehow unique to Florida, which
I don't know if it is, I hope it is.
That's horrible. One last Florida man story. I thought this
one was also interesting, certainly bad. Florida man was arrested
because he was making written threats to kill President Trump.
This is something that's illegal, something that you're not allowed

(01:11:57):
to do. Who was putting them up on social media
and other places? This is obviously a crime. My favorite
part of this story, if I have a favorite part
of a story this dark, is the dude's mugshot, because
if you look up this guy, Glenn del Sicco, he
looks like the kind of guy that would be putting
these sort of things up on social media and then

(01:12:19):
arrested for them. He looks almost perfectly so, with disheveled
hair and everything. Just a complete piece of crap individual
out there. Thank you to the Jupiter Police Department was
a message tweeted out by a couple different politicians in
Florida and their seriousness with which they took the threat
of someone saying they were going to harm the president.

(01:12:42):
What I think is also really interesting about this story
is when the guy got arrested. He behaved as though
he didn't know this was illegal. He thought he could
just say that on social media. He didn't mean it.
Of course, that's the claim you make now. I wasn't
being serious. I was just putting it out there and
hoping that everybody just ignored it or whatever. But honestly
threatening and saying you're going to kill somebody, especially the president,

(01:13:04):
I usually not a good move. So again, the eclecticness
of the Florida Man story to go from people that
are throwing bottles, you'reine, people that are getting hit by
jeeps on the beach, to also people that are just
looking for their cows what happened to their cows? And
also the Easter Bunny. I feel uniquely bad for that
individual who's in that costume. I've never had to wear

(01:13:24):
a costume for any sort of job I had, but
I did work at places where somebody else was put
into the mascot costume. I know this for a fact.
No one wants to be in there. No one who's
in those things wants to be wearing them, wants to
be in public in said outfit. They don't want to
do it, they might choose to do it. For the money,
but they don't want to, so the last thing we

(01:13:45):
should do is beat them up quick break a lot more.
Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.

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Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
filling in. Thrilled to be with you, d Lash or
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You can also watch her on YouTube all over the place,
Dana Lash. The Supreme Court is siding with Trump again.

(01:15:22):
There's two different rulings over the last twenty four hours
or so that have both caused a pause out of
some sort of order that was given for the Trump
administration to do something they didn't want to do. One
of those was to bring back someone from El Salvador
that was recently deported that the government believes is connected
to MS thirteen, a horrific gang and MS thirteen. They

(01:15:45):
actually believe him to be the leader of MS thirteen
and Long Long Beach in New York. All of this matters.
The biggest reason it matters is because most of mainstream
media is forgetting that part of the narrative on purpose,
not forgetting it because they don't know it, they're just
willingly removing it. And I will say, and I don't

(01:16:06):
know how to say this any differently than how I'm
about to state it, but I will just simply put
it out there that so very often those people in
newsrooms throughout the country who think they're doing a greater good,
they get up on this soapbox of believing that they're
morally right in helping society not harm itself by believing

(01:16:27):
things that it shouldn't believe. When they censor stories, when
they keep information from you, like that transshooter who had
a manifesto where they mentioned that they wanted to kill
all the white kids at the school that they went to.
Those are things that mainstream media leaves out of discussions
because a lot of people in those newsrooms, again convince
themselves they're protecting society. This means that they're protecting more

(01:16:51):
radical people from becoming even worse versions of themselves because
they know the truth what I'll say about that, just
real quick, is that hiding the truth will always make
people feel more suspicious or more likely to react negatively
than providing it to us, than expecting the American people
to be intelligent enough to understand certain things. And this

(01:17:13):
is all across the board. This might be the seriousness
of a story where you know, death is involved to
the ridiculousness of some of the stories about say, government
spending or tariffs or any of that other stuff. And
I know it sounds insane to compare the two, but
I can't help it. There's so much choosing what to
tell us and what not to tell us in these
stories to fit their narrative. And then they're either doing

(01:17:36):
this because they're on the take, which probably a lot
of us believe to be true, or they've convinced themselves
that they're doing it for some sort of high and
mighty reason. That is bull crap. That's full of you know,
all the things I can't say on the radio. But
this story about the person who was deported is wholeheartedly
connected to that idea. They are currently in a prison

(01:17:56):
in El Salvador. Our own justice system was trying to
force the Trump administration to bring someone back who probably
committed crimes in another country, which is why they're immediately
in jail. There outside of just being someone who was
at least illegally entered our country and then potentially has
been tied to terrible organizations, but more so than that,

(01:18:19):
they also want to convince you that this will now
just happen to anybody. Anybody out there in the world
walking the street at night might be picked up and
sent to a prison in El Salvador. And that's insane.
The other story involving the Supreme Court and decision they made,
is now preventing, at least in the short term, the
need to rehire sixteen thousand probationary workers for the government

(01:18:41):
that doje and Trump. President Trump decided we don't need well,
we don't need these people. They can be fired. They
cannot have jobs anymore. Cleaning up government waste fraud and
abuse turns into an emotional narrative about someone who is
out of work now that desperately needed the job, etc.

Speaker 8 (01:19:00):
Etc.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
And they leave out the part where they're not even
really doing anything that benefits us, as most government jobs
seem to be, you know, waste fraud and abuse more
so than necessary for our country and for our society.
But I digress. Those two stories are kind of bigger
out there, And of course the narrative is that the
Supreme Court is overwhelmingly conservative, that Trump has stacked the

(01:19:23):
court and convinced them to behave a certain way. Not again,
within that story, as some of the admissions of people
who are going against the Conservative Party, Amy Comy Barrett
has voted with the Democrats on a couple of these issues.
That part doesn't matter. All that matters is that the
issues are aligned with Trump's administration, and this is somehow

(01:19:45):
bad for the world we live in, even if they're
also both like punting. Both these decisions are not going
to have immediate, you know, changes, but they're not necessarily
going to prevent something long term from going the way
that say Democrats or mainstream media want these stories to go.
But we will see another big thing out there in
the world of tariffs that I thought was interesting, and

(01:20:07):
I have some audio I'm going to play in just
a second about something else too. But there's a long,
deep dive article on axios dot com about the House
Democrat who loves them loves Trump's tariffs he's a Democrat
in Maine. Jared Golden is his name. He actually is
the representative of a fairly conservative part of the country,

(01:20:28):
which is probably why he's such a big proponent of
the tariffs, as are actually most Americans. If you look
at any poll recently, people are saying that they'd like
to see the world treat America better and thus more
money get funneled into our country long term by having
better trade deals or the opportunity to say, export more
product out to certain places that have silly red tape

(01:20:50):
that prevents us from being competitive in those places. But
I just thought this was really interesting. The Axios Deep
Dive talks all about how this one politician and believes
we should have a blanket ten percent tariff on all
products that are imported into the US because we'd like
to make the US stronger. Is that something that will
realistically be an outcome of the trade war? I don't know.

(01:21:13):
Will a lot of American companies start to invest in
creating more of their products here, in creating more jobs
to manufacture said products here, I don't know. There's some
debate as to whether or not that'll occur. But attempting
these sort of things seems better than just continuing with
the status quo if the status quo isn't going well
for a lot of Americans, and it's not. There's a

(01:21:34):
lot of signs that many people say that used to
be middle class are now significantly struggling. But I just
thought it was interesting a deep dive into the one
Democrat who's going against the grain when it comes to
tariffs and actually calling for Trump to keep them going
and not back down no matter what happens in some
of these trade deals, something that I also think is
actually fairly unlikely. I think that the whole intention of

(01:21:55):
all this is to get better trade deals and eventually
relent on some of this stuff. Let's play something else.
This audio I found really interesting yesterday Missus Fox News
talking about the equity speed cameras that exist now in California.
You feel like this is written by the Onion or
the Babylon b and it can't possibly be real, but

(01:22:16):
it's real. Here we go.

Speaker 15 (01:22:19):
Eat a safety pilot program backed by Democratic California Governor
Gavin Newsom where how much you pay for a speaking
ticket depends on who you are, and it's all in
the name of equity on its website, the City Transportation
Authority goes out of its way to explain that speed
safety cameras will be dispersed across San Francisco in a
quote equitable fashion, but not everyone will have to pay

(01:22:42):
the same if they get a ticket. Get this, Low
income offenders qualify for steep find discounts guys up to half.

Speaker 9 (01:22:48):
Off, and if you're homeless but speeding in your vehicle.

Speaker 15 (01:22:53):
You can get up to eighty percent discount.

Speaker 9 (01:22:56):
Jerry, here's just.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
One of the many things I do love the way
people are laughing to the idea that someone has a
car that they're speeding around in, but they also don't
have a house, because that's kind of hard for us
to understand, as a lot of people do. But some
people in California live in their cars, I've been told,
so maybe that's what they're talking about. But nonetheless, to
have so much of the fine reduced and then to
actually also have the fine essentially enhanced if you have money,

(01:23:20):
it means that some people might face a fine as
small as five dollars and others might face a fine
as high as five hundred bucks for the same speeding offence.
This is insane. This is the kind of thing that
has two actual real world you know effects. The first
real world effect is anyone that can get away with

(01:23:41):
somehow qualifying for the you know, small fine. Let's say
that you're not actually homeless, but you're a college kid
who's at home with mom and dad and you don't
own that house. You might claim that you don't have
a house right now, that you're not you know, living anywhere,
so you're fine, can be five bucks, and that's insane.
There's gonna be ways to gain the system. But they're

(01:24:01):
also going to enhance the amount of people that just
commit these horrible or well, in this case, hopefully not
as dangerous of a crime as other things. But this
is smash and grab all over again. This is every
policy in California where they say that the reason they're
doing it is to make things more fair, make things
more equitable, and then immediately these things were abused because

(01:24:21):
of course they're going to be, because it's insane to
tell people that you have to pay a different amount
of fine based on how much money you make, as
opposed to telling people you shouldn't speed or you should
follow this law over here or over there. You shouldn't
be breaking them in the first place. If you're someone
who can't afford a two hundred dollars fine for something,

(01:24:41):
you shouldn't make it likely in your life to hit
said fine. You should do everything you can to prevent it,
to avoid it. And I'm sure someone can use the
extreme argument against what I just said, being of saying,
what if it's an emergency, Well, if it's an emergency,
you're probably not actually going to get in trouble. There's
probably someone that you can prove that there was an
emergency going on, and you'll have the fine or the

(01:25:02):
ticket thrown out. But nonetheless, all of this matters. All
this deserves to be part of a discussion that never
exists when people only want to talk about what they
perceive to be a political win or an emotional win
or societal like, look at what we're doing to make
things fair, and then other people go great, I bet
you A bunch of people who support this idea don't

(01:25:24):
live in California, don't live in San Francisco, and will
never have any impact on this actual law itself, but
they see it and they believe that it means that
they're part of the good guys the team that's doing
all the right things in society, even if it winds
up damaging society much more than helping it. Which we've
seen this movie time and again. It's just so insane

(01:25:45):
and to hear people talk about it and laugh about
it too. The last thing I'll say about that is
that I know somewhere in the darker reaches of the Internet,
or not even that dark, if you go on Twitter,
you can find some of this of people being up
in arms, upset that people would find this funny or
ridiculous or somehow, you know, insane. What I think about

(01:26:06):
that is individuals who and I think the best way
to put it is a way that Dave Chappelle put
it on Saturday Night Live, can't see beyond their own pain,
whatever that might be. I think he made a joke
about poor people and how angry they got at some
people that were not, as you know, financially challenged in
our world being mad about weird things. It's weird to

(01:26:28):
recap at Dave chappelle joke in this fashion, but essentially
he said, with some level of seriousness, but mostly as comedy,
that people can't see beyond their own even envisioned not
real pain, but they're imagined pain in our society, and
that seems to absolutely be true. And the amount of
people who you know, cheer on these kinds of things

(01:26:50):
and think that they're great until they get a ticket
for five hundred bucks because they're well off, and then
all of a sudden they're upset about it is just
through the roof. It's amazing to think about the amount
of people who support something until it's at your door.
One other good example of this before I take a break,
by the way sanctuary cities and how many of them
regretted being sanctuary cities after people started being sent to

(01:27:12):
that city that were supposed to be welcomed with open arms,
but places like New York and Chicago didn't want to
do that after they were called on their bluff. This
is just another moment of that happening in the world,
and people laughing at it, and then other people being
mad that you're hateful even though you're anything. But you're
just simply someone who's thinking rationally, which less and less
people seem to do. All right, We'll take a break.

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Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
That's right, this is the Dana Show. Time for a
quick five my name is Craig Collins. Filling in. Heineken
unveils a phone case that flips your phone over whenever
it hears the word cheers. Apparently they're very proud of this.
That means it's spying on you all the time. But
Heineken's case is a prototype that's designed to help you
pay less attention to your phone and more attention to

(01:28:56):
people when you're out socializing. They put up some videos
show the case actually doing this. Essentially, a little piece
comes out of the phone and flips it over so
now it's on its face and you can't see it
anymore instead of being pointed toward you. And this is
supposed to help you drink more and enjoy life more,
which is fine by me. That's totally fine. I love

(01:29:16):
the fact that this also isn't really that hard to defeat.
If you want your phone, you can just pick it
up and look at it after it's been flipped over
by your phone case. Again, that is listening to you
all the time. That's probably going to be a negative
for some people, but darn it for others. Just fine.
But Heineken very proud of their new invention. That's what
you call it. A marathon runner is eyeing a record

(01:29:37):
at the London Marathon, not one that I think you'd
necessarily be proud of if it was you. Michael Wiggins
is trying to run the fastest marathon wearing a traffic
cone costume that anyone has ever run wearing a traffic
cone costume. This is actually in the Guinness Book of
World Records. It's not exactly a short time. Three hours

(01:29:57):
and twenty two minutes is what he's got to be well,
wearing something that he definitely doesn't want to wear in
public normally, so stupid. This is all over the news
in some places, or at least all over social media.
Good luck to the man who's going to set a
record that only he will care about, and he'll talk
about it bars in a way that'll make people pick
up their phone that's just been flipped over by their

(01:30:18):
case and look at it instead of paying attention to him.
Because it's not a real record. Man, you don't actually
deserve any sort of applause for it. Darn it. Go
ahead and enjoy setting something stupid. Sea lions are attacking people.
This is off the coast of California. Some are saying
this is because that's in the name lions. But I
guess others are saying that sea lions are often very

(01:30:40):
playful and not usually ones to attack people. But because
of the bad condition of the water there, of course
this turns into a climate thing or any sort of
environmental thing. The sea lions are now angrier, so they're
attacking us because they don't like the quality of the
water they're swimming in, not because they're called sea lions.

(01:31:00):
You decide which is true for you. I'll decide which
is true for me. One last one too.

Speaker 8 (01:31:04):
I do like this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
A guy has gained a bunch of followers on social
media for putting custom crocs on New York City sculptures.
This is a real story. This idiot is doing it.
He was bragging about it on social media. I think
I have a little bit of this audio to play.
Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:31:18):
In the past thirty one days, I've mischievously put crocs
on eleven different statue.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
In doing that, at DANIELI two hundred thousand followers.

Speaker 8 (01:31:24):
I've been up for the past thirty hour reprinting grestanding
and reply every single croc.

Speaker 9 (01:31:28):
This morning at six am, I went back to.

Speaker 13 (01:31:30):
Every single statue but every single crowc backwhere belong.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Go to the statues right now and take a gibbet
if you want. Please don't steal the crocs, although I
know some of you probably will, a lot of people
probably will. And also twenty thousand followers for putting crocs
on statues. The world is sad. Greig Collins filling in
on The Dana Show.

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Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of
stuff to talk about today. Dana is back tomorrow. You
can find her Dlash, Dana Lash Radio and x on Twitter,
one of many ways to stay connected to all things
that she's up to. All right, let's play this. We
have a few different takes in the world of racism
in our country, some of them coming from MSNBC talking heads,

(01:32:26):
some of them coming from politicians. One a Jasmine Crockett,
a politician black woman. If it needs to be mentioned
here for anyone that doesn't know talking to a Baptist
church in Connecticut about how we need to have people
illegally in this country to do all of the jobs
on farms that we don't want to do for wages

(01:32:47):
that are not fair to anyone them, us, anybody involved.
This is something we need. This is a democratic narrative.
They've said this often, unapologetically, that we need people to
be here working illegally wages below minimum wage so that
we don't have to do this stuff. That is part
of her message. Let's go ahead and play it.

Speaker 13 (01:33:07):
What going around the country and educate people about what
immigrants do for this country, or the fact that we
are a country of immigrants right right.

Speaker 9 (01:33:16):
The fact is, ain't none of y'all trying to go
a farm right now? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
So I'm like, okay, I really love the fact that
people in the church are looking around like I would
probably do that. Is that job paying pretty good? Do
we make money right now doing what we're doing? We
wouldn't be against it. I love that she actually doesn't
get the response she's expecting from the crowd.

Speaker 9 (01:33:39):
And you're not, you not we done picking cotton. We
are you can't pay us enough to find a plantation.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
It's weird to also inject race into this conversation, not
that it doesn't exist if you're talking about people coming
here from other countries to pick our products for wages
that they shouldn't be picking our products for, but also
just in general to try to create a win with
an audience that she's not exactly winning over with another
part of her discussion there again trying to scold them

(01:34:15):
into convincing them they don't want jobs that she assumed
they didn't want to begin with. But a couple other
things that you can just say about this logic or
lack thereof one. There is a visa that exists for
agricultural companies in the United States. It's an H two,
a visa that allows you to bring in seasonal labor
or temporary labor if you don't have enough to do

(01:34:38):
whatever you need to do on a farm. So that
actually exists. You can have people come here legally. Now, granted,
you probably have to pay them at least minimum wage,
since they'd have the legal status to be there, and
you can't force them into less money, which is something
that democrats seem to hate as an idea as opposed to,
you know, just not having people here illegally being the
trade off. I just think it's crazy, as woke as

(01:35:01):
that party wants to be that they kind of advocate
willingly for taking advantage of people from other countries. That's
a part of their narrative that they want to ignore.
There's also this story and this viral video of just
a woman I think a couple million views already on
social media at least, saying that she agrees with the
death of Austin Metcalf. He was the high school student

(01:35:24):
who was stabbed to death at a track meet by
someone else after an argument about, you know, whether or
not someone should be in a tent for I think
like a team and a school the kind of thing.
Let me just say this first, as someone that attended
high school as many of you probably listening do, and
saw people fight at times where no one was harmed

(01:35:45):
in a way that was deadly. This sort of thing
happens at schools. It doesn't happen because of race. It
doesn't happen because well I'm not saying blanket statement, I
shouldn't say it that way, but by and large, there's
times when young people conflict with each other. It has
nothing to do with anything other than both being young
people and doing things that they shouldn't be doing and
not having cooler heads prevailed not being more mature. Now, granted,

(01:36:09):
what's rare about this instance is someone dying, someone choosing
to use deadly forced to stab someone else and kill them.
And what's insane to me is that this conversation, for
a lot of people trying to make a point very
different than what the you know, actual instance itself is about,
are essentially advocating for this, saying that it's all right

(01:36:30):
to kill somebody if you warn them in advance that
if they touch you, you're going to stab them to death.
And again, this is sort of just insane to say.
This is why there's actual legal definitions of you know,
defending yourself with deadly force, and it's not this. But
let's go ahead and play some audio here of this
woman who went viral essentially saying that she's totally fine

(01:36:51):
with what happened. She is a black woman, if it matters.
I don't know why in our society we all care
about that sort of stuff. Although it's not surprising what
he's advocating for. Because she's injecting race into a conversation
that may not have had race as a component of it.

Speaker 14 (01:37:08):
Y'all not gonna make me believe or feel any kind
of sympathy for awesome met health at all. He put
his hands on a young man when he should have
kept them hands for himself. When the young man told
him touch me, and see you bet not touch me.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
That meant that I.

Speaker 9 (01:37:25):
Don't want you in my space. I don't want you
touching me. Rosa Park days is over.

Speaker 14 (01:37:31):
You cannot think that you can move somebody out of
a seat that you don't own and think that it's
going to be okay. And you can't determine how I'm
going to retaliate on you when you put your hands.

Speaker 9 (01:37:41):
On me in an aggressive manner.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Yes, you can actually determine that sort of thing. And
you don't know how aggressive the manner even was. You
don't even know all the details of this story as
you're saying that Austin Metcalf did something he may not
have actually done in the first place. What's all so
crazy about this, and I'll say this as a person
of faith, is that Austin Metcalf's father has gone out

(01:38:03):
there a couple times now and done interviews in which
he actually seems to feel somewhat sorry for the person
that took his son's life, not because, of course it's
in any way, shape or form helping him with any
pain he has, but as someone of faith, he believes
that the person who used deadly force I wouldn't use

(01:38:25):
this word. I think he did mistake in life that
he will come to regret, and of course he'll come
to regret it, as the person who took someone else's
life is likely to go to jail for this, hopefully
if the justice system works the way it's supposed to work.
What's really interesting about that and some people who are
attacking the father for what he's saying, is I remember,

(01:38:46):
and I'm not saying everyone has to live up to
the standard. I wouldn't live up to the standard. But
I remember when Pope John Paul the Second was almost
killed and then forgave the guy who tried to kill
him in prison while he was locked in there as
sort of a demonstruation of what people want us to
aspire to be. And the reason I mention this is
not to preach to you, or to preach to anyone

(01:39:07):
about what you should or shouldn't do if someone took
the life of your child. I can't fathom being anything
other than enraged and wanting to, you know, find a
way to have justice served to the person who hurt
my loved one. But what I will say is that
if you're an individual who believes this, like Austin Metcalfe's
father does, I don't think you could capably raise someone

(01:39:28):
to be the type of person that some in far
left parts of media are claiming Austin is to deserve
the the you know, harm that he took and the
death that occurred him being killed in this interaction. If
you're someone that's this grounded in your own faith, I
think you raise your children to be a reflection of
yourself in that way, and oftentimes you succeed to some extent.

(01:39:50):
So I just I cannot believe with any fiber of
my being that any of the horrific and completely debunked
narratives about an individual could even be close to true.
And it seems to be playing itself out in front
of us, demonstration in front of us, and it's also
being ignored most people who are up in arms and
angry about this story are ignoring the way in which

(01:40:11):
the family is trying to react to it with having
some level of I don't know what it is, but
something in there that's based on their faith, that's trying
to believe that, you know, there's there's some sort of
reason that things happen in the world, whatever it might be,
or whatever the you know, other I guess resolutions they

(01:40:34):
come to. If it's just coping with the grief, I'm
not sure. Again, I'm not trying to tell you how
to live your life. I'm not trying to to preach
to the radio audience here. I just think it's amazing
that that part is so missing in this narrative too.
And then one last one, and I might not even
play the audio of this one just because it's it's
so stupid. But an MSNBC talking head very recently on

(01:40:58):
television yesterday claim the reason we're dealing with tariff stuff
that he doesn't like or anything else that he doesn't like.
You know what, fine, I'll play the audio. I kind
of don't want to, but I'll just go ahead and
play it because I don't want anyone to think I'm
hiding it because I don't. I don't think I can
combat it. But here is part of a person claiming
that the reason we're in a situation that they don't

(01:41:19):
like as far as policy goes, is because America has
to be racist, have to grapple with it.

Speaker 12 (01:41:26):
Because it's the snake, it's.

Speaker 9 (01:41:28):
The beast coiled up in the heart.

Speaker 12 (01:41:31):
The bosom of the country, as Frederick Douglass said. And
the fact that they are doubling down on this shows
you what kind of human beings they actually are.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Say more, I'm sorry. I also love that part of
the say more, keep going down this rabbit hole of
how horrible society is and how racist we all have
to be.

Speaker 10 (01:41:50):
We chose a felon.

Speaker 12 (01:41:52):
Who is more interested in loyalty, who's more interested in retribution,
who's more interested in griff than in democracy, and we
chose a felon because we didn't want to elect a
black woman.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
So, terree, this is insane. This is so insane in fact,
because very simply as a response to this from the
MSNBC talking head that said it, the reason that Kabala
Harris didn't win the election is that she was a
bad candidate. It had nothing to do with the way
she looked it had everything to do with what she
said or the secular conversation she brought us on all

(01:42:29):
the time that made no sense. And I said this
before in the show, and I'll say it again. One
of the craziest things not mentioned in this rant is
that most Democrats believe Michelle Obama would have won the
presidency had she run, had she not resisted all of
the calls to be the candidate as Biden is stepping aside,
or even before that. So many people in political circles,

(01:42:52):
not necessarily on one side, but in general, also believed
that Michelle Obama would have put up a much better
fight against Donald than Kamala Harrins did. And what's that
one thing that Eddie from MSNBC is not going to mention.
Oh yeah, it's that Michelle Obama is a black woman
and that her husband, a black man, was elected president
twice in this country. Maybe it's not race. I am

(01:43:15):
also not saying that I think Michelle Obama would have
deserved to win an election against Donald Trump. And I
think a whole lot of conservative voters would have had
many reasons I'd to vote for Trump and not Obama,
and it would have nothing to do with race again,
it would have everything to do with policies and all
the things we didn't like about Obama's time in office
and the decisions he made. But it's just insane to

(01:43:36):
try to couch any of these disagreements in society on
one side having to be hateful and evil and terrible
in whatever way you need them to be hateful and
evil and terrible, because you won't accept the fact that
they voted for someone that they thought would make the
economy better. And even as the tariff stuff is going
on right now, if six months from now we're in

(01:43:56):
a world where we have better trade deals with most
of the countries that have taken advantage of us for
a long time, and we're exporting more product to more places,
and we're doing better on a whole, I wonder if
people will still have the same narrative of the tariffs
are terrible for us, if they work, if they allow
for negotiation to cause us to go a different direction
than we've gone before, we have to see I've cautioned

(01:44:18):
that before what I've been on the radio at other times,
you have to wait for something to fully play out
before you know for sure what the end result of it.

Speaker 5 (01:44:26):
Is.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
We have a lot of people that are experts right
now that are immediate and not waiting any amount of
time to see what the end result of all this
will be. But if six months from now we get
the kind of economy that Trump said he would bring
in to our society, I wonder if anyone will give
him ada boy for that if it happens. I'm not
saying it well, I'm just saying that you got to
wait and see what could be around the corner. All right,

(01:44:48):
quick break a little bit more. Creig Collins filling in
on the Data Show.

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Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
Heymen, this is the Dana Show. My name is Craig
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on YouTube, on Rumble, on pretty much everything, like I said,
also on television. Let's do this. A few little quick
stories that posentially didn't make the cut till right now.

(01:45:25):
One of them Dolly Parton is partnering with a Kardashian
for a pair of jeans. She is calling them Joelens.
I'm not going to bash Dolly Parton. That seems wrong,
it seems on American to do. I am gonna, however,
play the commercial they put together for the Jolines that
claim to make your butt look really good, which is

(01:45:46):
probably important if you're the woman that's making another woman jealous.
From the Jolene song Here we Go.

Speaker 6 (01:45:53):
I think you should dress the way you feel good.
You need to find out who you are, and you
need to do it us and you need to do with.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
Purpose I do. And when you apply that to stall,
you need.

Speaker 6 (01:46:05):
To wear the clothes that's going to enhance your goodness,
your friendliness, your personality, and all the things that you
think you stand for.

Speaker 14 (01:46:13):
And so I just say thank you, Judae, Julian, Juliae jo.

Speaker 13 (01:46:21):
I'm a funny rascal, Ina, Yes you are, Mauntin, Yes
you're good genes too.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
Thank you, Miss Dolly. You're definitely a funny rascal. Joe
Leans are going to be all the rage, mostly because
of the name of them, not because there's anything new
about them compared to other genes. I imagine a lot
of people will buy these, though mostly just because they
like Dolly Parton, and I do love what she says
in the middle there about enhancing all these aspects of
your personality, even though they also enhance your dairy air.

(01:46:47):
All right. Another thing that I liked this was a
survey of the amount of digital cleaning we might need
to do, or digital spring cleaning we might need to do.
The average person has one forty four on at emails.
Almost all of those are like promotional emails that get
stuck in a different part of your mailbox now your
email mailbox. You also have twelve unread text messages, seventeen

(01:47:11):
unread social media notifications, eleven unread app messages, fifteen browser
tabs that are open that you should close, et cetera,
et cetera. Just close all of it. That's the advice.
Just open and then close and forget about, or maybe
even just delete it. Maybe go through the one thousand,
forty four emails since you haven't read them in some
amount of time. Whatever information is in them has not

(01:47:33):
harmed you. And maybe this is not the best advice,
but it's the advice I'm going to go with. Just
delete them, just move on, pretend it didn't happen, Assume
the best, and you know, be scared for the worst.
But that seems like a good move, because, darn it,
we're also so tied to all of the things digital
that we need to get away from that. At times,
I'd love to just throw my phone in a river,

(01:47:54):
but then i'd get it out because it's waterproof and
I need that phone pretty bad. But it would be
great for us to go digital free for an amount
of time. One last story that I like too, does
your job require a high tolerance of being yelled at?
This was a question asked to people on Reddit. Some
of the top answers involved customer service, rep, teacher, a referee.

(01:48:15):
But two on this list that I really thought were
interesting member of the military and cops. They get yelled
at by people all the time, or members of the military,
but even be yelled at in basic training quite a bit,
and they are expected to absolutely stay calm, and so
in society sometimes turns on these people and treats them
as though, you know, there's some unfair set of rules

(01:48:36):
where we have to be hyper critical of them. It
might be good to remember that that these are people
put in high stress situations all the time that have
to live up to something a lot of us wouldn't
live up to. All Right, that's it, that's the show.
Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.

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