What does it take to stop a domestic terror plot from the inside? Former FBI undercover agent Scott Payne reveals how he infiltrated The Base, a neo-Nazi accelerationist group plotting mass murder. From drinking goat blood in a hate-fueled ritual to stopping a planned assassination, Scott shares raw, uncensored details about the psychological toll of undercover work—and what it taught him about radicalization in America.
Dr. Phil and Scott go beyond the headlines to talk about how hate spreads online, how children are recruited through gaming and dark web forums, and what families, law enforcement, and educators can do to intervene before it's too late. Based on Scott’s book Codename: Pale Horse, this is a wake-up call for parents, policymakers, and anyone who thinks this can’t happen in their town.
Listen in to learn:
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How undercover agents spot and stop domestic terrorists
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The new face of radicalization from Discord to extremist compounds
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What parents need to know about online recruitment
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Why emotional connection is a double-edged sword in deep cover work
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Why silence is complicity and what you can do to fight hate
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