September 3, 2025 • 43 mins
NFL Champion Zach Moore on Love, Dating, and Life After the Game
What happens when a 6’6” Super Bowl champ swaps playbooks for dating apps? Former New England Patriot Zach Moore spills on life after football, why he dodged the wild athlete dating scene, and how he spots women with less-than-honorable intentions.
From battling depression to dropping 42 pounds and turning “dad bods into father figures,” Zach proves he’s not just brawn, he’s brains, heart, and a whole lot of smooth charm.
As a girl dad, a fitness coach, and a self-proclaimed “peaceful, private guy,” he’s got us wondering how he’s still single.
🎧 Tap play to hear Zach’s unfiltered take on love, fitness, and why one good woman beats all the chaos.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Oh my God, I just totally got catfished.
He looks absolutely nothinglike his picture.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is
married with kids.
His wife just reached out to me.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome to the Meat Market.
The single scene is aslaughterhouse and we are here
to devour it.
We are your hosts.
I'm Lindsay, I'm Jess andtoday's sizzling single is Zach.
Welcome, thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Thanks for having me.
Great to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So you were an NFL player and you won a Super Bowl.
Congrats.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
How did that?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
feel that must have been exhilarating.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, it was a great year.
It was my rookie year with theNew England Patriots.
It was an unbelievable time anda year I'll never forget One
for the books for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Wow, you played for the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Did you play with Tom Brady?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Of course, that's my quarterback.
Why Forever the GOAT.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
He was my high school crush.
Really I had a poster of him inmy locker.
Really High school From SportsIllustrated.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
That's awesome.
He's a great guy, great guy.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You know who my crush was?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Young Tom Brady was fine, he was good looking.
Yeah, yeah, he was good, he wascute.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
So how did you get into football, had you been
playing since you were a child?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
No, I actually started my freshman year of high
school, so it was just a way tojust have some extracurricular
activities.
I didn't play it growing up, sowhen I started at 15, I was
just completely brand new to it,and then I just so happened to
be good at it Over time as well,and did you start in the NFL
with the Patriots?
Yeah, so I got drafted in 2014out of Concordia St Paul First
play in school history to do it,and then made stops with
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several other teams and ended mycareer out here with the
Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You played with the Cardinals oh nice who was?
The quarterback when you werewith the.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Cardinals Josh Rosen, so that was his first year as
well.
Then next year they got KylerMurray.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Nice.
So how was dating?
Being an NFL player, did youhave women just throw themselves
at you all the time?
Oh man, you had to like swapthem away.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I mean, if we're being honest, yeah, I mean,
that's just what comes with thelife as a professional athlete.
You're going to have, you know,women flocking themselves to
you, but, um, in my case, youknow, you just gotta have, you
know, uh, you gotta have a senseof what to look for right,
because if you can be involvedwith the wrong person, then your
entire career can be messed up.
So we've seen it time and timeagain can you pick them out
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pretty easily I can like I'venever been in my swiss six pro
year career.
I've never had any instanceswith, like you know, some
getting into the headlines orbeing exposed for something, or
you know a woman coming out andsaying I did something to her,
so I got that sense.
But other guys, I guess theydon't.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
When you were dating, was it?
Were you worried about theintentions of the women?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, I got to be honest.
Yes, because you know at thatpoint, you know, as pro athletes
, you've got so much to lose,right, and there's millions of
dollars on the table, so you'vegot to really screen who you're
putting around you.
But I'm not going to lie.
I was fine being a bachelor andbeing single my years because I
was focused on the game, so Ireally wasn't too much into
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trying to find a date or a woman.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I was just going to ask that.
If you were in a relationshipwhile you were playing or if you
were single for your career?
No, were in a relationshipwhile you were playing, or if
you were single.
No, my career I was single.
I mean, I would have loved tobeen a relationship prior, but
you know it just didn't happen.
It's probably better that way.
Yeah, have you seenrelationships ruined because of
the lifestyle of?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
unfortunately, yes, I mean, there's good and there's
bad.
I've seen teammates, you knowthey had, you know, really rocky
relationships with their women,but I've seen, you know, great
marriages last.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So, you know, I think it's like case to case, yeah,
yeah and did women find it hardto trust you because there are
rumors that nfl players cheatwhen they're on the road.
Don't they have that reputation?
Yeah, I mean every athlete,because we've talked about this
before.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Like the um, what's his name?
Like the patrick mahomes rumorshere at bottle or whatever it
was like when he's supposedlythis great husband and great guy
and blah blah blah.
So it's like rumors, there'salways rumors right.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So did women find it hard to trust you.
Did you ever have that issue?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I don't think I've had that issue.
Like I said, I've seen it inother situations but my whole
thing I don't mean to soundcorny or anything but my whole
philosophy is if I'm corny oranything, but my whole
philosophy is if I'm withsomebody, I'm with them, right?
I believe life is much moresimple when you got one woman to
satisfy.
So if you're in a committedrelationship, right, it's best
if you just stick with thatperson.
You don't want to become like ayou know, a lust robot or
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whatever they call it, Becausethen it's going to bring about a
whole other issues.
Right, and trying like, ifyou're a guy that, or an athlete
, pro athlete wants to datemultiple women, you gotta be.
You gotta have the knowledge toknow that.
You gotta deal with a lot ofdifferent personalities and
sometimes that can be hard tojuggle.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So it's one woman is exhausting enough.
I can't imagine trying tojuggle multiple and I feel like
some people like the drama right.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So, like the guys who maybe like like the drama, like
the sort of toxic relationshipsor the attention, they probably
lean more towards the let me,date multiple women and have
women in multiple cities.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I've seen instances of that.
But you know, like I said formyself, I don't like being toxic
, I don't like all the chaos,right.
So I'm a peaceful, private,quiet person.
But, like you said, other guys,they get the thrill out of that
.
I can't understand why, butmaybe that's just what works for
them.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, you sound like a keeper.
You sound like a good one.
So where did you meet peoplewhen you were playing in the NFL
, Like at clubs, bars?
Where did you meet women?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, primarily bars, clubs.
That was like my scene backthen, not so much now.
I don't drink.
I haven't drank in almost twoyears bars or clubs anymore, but
that's primarily where I meetwomen, so did they approach you?
Did you approach them?
99% of the time I'm approachingwomen because I'm a big guy.
For those that don't know, I'm6'6", very muscular man, so they
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can get intimidated approachingme.
I've had some instances wherethat has happened, but 99% of
the time I'm approaching women.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
What was your line?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Oh man, Did you have a line?
He's 6'6".
Speaker 2 (05:46):
He doesn't need a line.
That's so true.
He does not need a line.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, it wasn't really a line, it was just it
wasn't.
You know, you just got to fillout the vibe Like maybe look at
what she's drinking, what she'swearing, compliment her, offer
another drink.
Just start a conversation onthis situation.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I'm such a gentleman I feel like too.
Did you ever get vibes fromwomen who were more forward in
approaching you that they werethe ones that maybe didn't have
great intentions?
Like they could see, you weresomeone they wanted to get in on
?
The lifestyle, or the money orthe you know, whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, yeah, I have a keen eye for that as well, so
for that as well.
So I can I can pretty muchsense bad intentions um so when
I get those red flags I kind ofjust move away.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I don't even entertain it.
Yeah, is it hard dating as apublic figure?
Do you find it tough?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
no, not really, because you, you can meet women
that have never watched sportsand never played or never
watched football, so they haveno idea who you are.
You know, they just see, maybelike a tall person, where, in my
case.
So, um, I like meeting womenlike that who don't know the
sport, never seen football, soit's not hard, right, but um, it
can be, depending on whereyou're at.
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Like, if you're like a sportsclub, maybe they recognize you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I don't know, but for me it isn't, it isn't difficult
we read an interesting factthat nfl players spend more
money at the club than any otherathlete.
Have you heard this?
Do you know why?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Do I know why they spend it?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, they spend more money NFL players than any
other athlete at the bar at theclub's VIP service, because they
wear helmets when they play sopeople don't recognize them.
Ah, yeah, so they feel likethey have to be extra flashy to
kind of get the attention.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I done been in Miami where I seen a couple of bottle
wars.
So, yeah, great point, that'sgreat.
Yeah, guys have them.
But I'm cool on that.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So your last girlfriend?
How long ago was that?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Oh, this is like 2022 .
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Okay, and how did you guys meet?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So she used to be my, so I have dreadlocks, so she
used to be my loctician, so sheused to do my hair.
So that's really how we met.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Got you, so very natural organic.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Are you on the dating apps?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
No, no, no, I don't know.
I get paranoia being on thoseapps Just because maybe somebody
might recognize me.
Then they try to put me on ashade room.
Or you know, they got this newtea app and all that stuff.
Oh my God right.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I'm trying to stay away from these apps for sure,
it's kind of scary that and thenthat Facebook.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, they got a lot of those dating.
Are we dating the same guy,Phoenix type page.
So I'm trying to stay clearaway from all of that.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Especially if you're when you're dating, you're
talking to multiple people.
We've talked about this beforeRight Before you're exclusive,
you expect each other to betalking to multiple people and
women will post on those pages.
Just started talking with thisguy yesterday.
Is there any tea?
It's like, why are you lookingfor tea?
On a guy that you just startedtalking to yesterday.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You're not exclusive.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Like you know, it's crazy the culture that the
internet has created, the datingapps and these Facebook groups.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, it's ridiculous .
That's why I said I'm trying tostay clear away from it.
So, hopefully I can meetsomeone organically and not on
the app.
Have you been married before?
No, never been married.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But, you have kids.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yep two kids, two daughters.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Okay, and do they live with you full-time?
Do you split?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
time, part-time, split-time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
How do you find dating with daughters?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Well, my last relationship, you know, I had a.
Well, she had a daughter aswell.
So it's not difficult for me todate with kids, primarily
because I know I'm not andpeople get a misconception,
right, if someone has kids, thenyou have to feel like a role,
right, or like a step-parentrole with me, like if I'm dating
you, like you're here for me, Idon't need you to be a step-mom
, I don't need you, you know, tohave that relationship.
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You know you need to be apositive influence, but I'm not
looking for you to fill a voidin my or fill a space in my
kids' lives.
They have that.
They have a dad, they have amom.
So if I'm dating you, you'rehere for me.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Are they protective over who you date?
Do they kind of say I don'tlike her?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
They'll tell me.
But you know I do my put theright people around me so they
can be a positive influence onthem.
But yeah, I don't think I'vebrought a woman around them that
they said they didn't like,because I know if I can tell if
they'll like them before theymeet them.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Do you have a rule with how soon you introduce a
woman to your kids?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, it's got to be like a couple of months, like I
don't know exactly how long,maybe like three months.
I'd't know exactly how long,maybe like three months.
I'd say that's three, fourmonths around around that time.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
so and what does it take for a woman to land a guy
like you?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
uh well, for me, physical health and mental
health is huge.
Where I go to therapy, I workout, I work on myself every day.
So they have to have afoundation for physical health.
I'm not saying you have to be aworkout junkie, but you have to
have some type of exerciseroutine because that's important
for mental health as well.
So their tag team partners Idon't believe you can have one
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without the other scientificallyproven.
So she has to have a great headon her shoulders, right, great
routine, purpose and I would say, just like a good career, right
.
I like people that have goals,that have aspirations, so we can
feed that energy off each other.
So, yeah, those are big for me.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
And you do training right.
Yep so now, that's sort of yourpassion your job.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yep online men's health and fitness coaching Okay
.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So yeah, you turn dad bods into father figures.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I love that.
That's my line tell us aboutthat um.
So, yeah, I got into thatpost-retirement right.
So I retired in 2020 and then,through 2020, 2022, I went
through a bad spell ofdepression, anxiety, ptsd,
identity crisis, right.
So just trying to figure outwho I was past football, you
know, the sport is over with,right?
So now I got the next Godwilling, 40, 50 years to live.
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So now, what is my purpose?
So, um, and I kind of dabbledinto fitness while I was playing
, so I kind of had that in my,in my back pocket.
But during that time, duringthat two-year span from 2020 to
2022, I gained a lot of weight,right.
I almost looked unrecognizable.
So once I looked in the mirror,I was like I to get myself back
in shape right now, talkedabout mental health and physical
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health, so I dedicated my timeto get back in shape.
I dropped 42 pounds in fourmonths.
Within that time, I also gotISSA certified to be a fitness
coach.
And then, once I went on thatjourney, I realized you know,
this can really how thisimpacted me losing all this
weight and getting my mind andbody right.
I know this can help other guysas well, so that's why I
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launched my business.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's amazing, thank you.
Are you all online or do you doin-person stuff?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, I do hybrid training, so I mean, obviously
you have to be in Arizona, soI'll do in-person training, but
it's very limited because myschedule is really full.
So online coaching has reallyhelped.
You know me, uh allowed me tohelp guys from anywhere.
I got clients all over thenation, even one in Canada and
Australia, Right, so I'm able todo more.
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Right, You're only limited, acertain amount of hours in
person.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So and you only train men, or do do you have women
clients too?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Okay, so I do have a few women clients.
I'm never so.
The reason why I train menright and it's really age 30
through 45, middle-aged menbecause I can relate to them
right, but I will never Turnaround anybody that's serious
about getting in shape or betterin their health.
So I do have a few womenclients, but my niche or my
market is really men.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
After this episode airs, he's going to have a huge
in-route to female clients.
I love it.
Come get right.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Because we've talked about that too in episodes with
like, because we've talked aboutarticles right of like the
careers that are the topcheaters.
Oh, wow, and so we always talkabout, like personal trainers
and women jealous of theirboyfriends or husbands or
whatever, who are personaltrainers.
And I've even had friends whoare dating guys who are like I
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will not have my husbandtraining women and it's like a
source of tension in theirrelationships because the guys
are like this is my job, youknow I need to train who is
paying me?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
but it's like, so there's, there's that little, so
that's another reason why Iwanted to move online, cause
that eliminates that as well.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That is true, that is true.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But I've had instances where I train women,
even online, and they may have asignificant other that didn't
like the fact that another manwas training a girl.
So I'm like let me justeliminate all these problems and
just train men.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, so we always hear horror stories of dating in
Scottsdale.
Have you dated Scottsdale girls?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, not really, Because I live in Goodyear,
which is like way west, and I'veheard those stories as well.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You stay away.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Fortunately, unfortunately, I have not dated
a Scottsdale girl well, so youstay away, fortunately,
unfortunately, I have not dateda scottsdale girl.
Have you been cheated on?
To my knowledge, no, but no, Idon't know.
I don't know what people dowhen they're not around me, but
to my knowledge, no so what areyou looking for?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
are you looking to get married?
Are you looking to have morekids?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
uh, so that's a tough question.
So married here's the thingabout marriage.
Um, I believe it's great, it'sa great union between two people
, but it's not something that Idon't feel like.
My life is incomplete without,like, if I never get married for
the rest of my life, that'sfine, right, because marriage is
not for everybody.
But if I get the opportunity toexperience it, I would
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definitely go for it, right.
But it's steps leading up tothat, right.
I gotta work on myself first,right, then I, then I got to vet
, you know, a woman that fitswhat I'm looking for and a
partner, and then we can takethings from there.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
What are your deal breakers?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I say bad habits, that's one Vaping.
I do not like women that vape.
And yeah, lack of physicalhealth, right, a woman that
don't exercise, that don'tdoesn't work on herself, it
doesn't have any like goals oraspirations.
Uh yeah, those are pretty muchdeal breakers.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Have you had any disaster dates?
I was just going to ask that.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Do you have any crazy , crazy dating stories?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Oh wow.
Yes, I don't know if I'mallowed to say on camera.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You don't have to say a name.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oh wow, She'll never know, they'll never know.
Yeah, I've had instances where,you know, I've been on a date
with a woman.
She secretly invited out herfriends, which is like all right
, whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Like along to the date, yes, or just sit in a
different part of the restaurantand watch no along to the date.
Just sit in a different part ofthe restaurant and watch no
along, so she showed up with herfriends.
Yeah, so everybody could get afree meal that is oh, are you
kidding me?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
you think, that's why ?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I don't know about a free meal, but maybe she.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Uh, I don't know, was this the first date it's more
like a second date and shedidn't tell you she was bringing
her friends.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
But my whole thing is like I don't know maybe she
wants like I don't know, I wantto say security but making sure
she's safe.
I don't know.
Maybe she wants like I don'tknow, I want to say security but
making sure she's safe.
I don't know, Whatever the casemay be, but if a woman don't
feel that safe around me, thenwe should just call this quits,
right, Because I don't want anyinstances where you think I'm
going to do something to you andthen I get in trouble and, like
I said, I'm trying to keepeverything you know peaceful,
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private, quiet.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Maybe, maybe she was intimidated.
I dated a guy and on the firstdate he bought a male friend,
and then the second date hebought the same male friend,
like he never wanted to be alonewith me.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It was so weird.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Why?
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Maybe they're like insecure and they think they
don't have much to talk about,so they need that security
blanket of more people to.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't know Like a moderator.
Yeah, then you're on the datewith the wrong person If you
can't talk to the person thatyou're on a date with without
having someone to coach yourconversation.
Are you religious?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Do you go to church?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I'm not religious.
I'm spiritual.
I do believe in the higherpower, but I don't belong to any
religion.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So, if you don't mind me asking, why didn't it work
out with your ex?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
To be honest.
So, like I said, during thatyear, during that span of 2020
and 2022, right, I went througha lot of mental health issues,
right.
So I'm still trying to figureout myself post-football.
And then 2022 happened andthat's when we got in a
relationship.
So, in my opinion, I had a lotmore work to do on myself before
I got in a relationship, andthat's me taking accountability,
right, I believe she hadsomething to do on her end.
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So, when you got two people whohaven't did the work on
themselves and then just get ina relationship, you know things
tend to spiral out of control.
You know, sooner rather thanlater, and then that's to me,
that's what really happened.
Like you start to.
You know she's a great person.
I don't ever want to badmouthany of my exes.
You know they're great people,obviously, because you know I
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chose to be in a relationshipwith them and they also chose me
as well.
Um, but yeah, we had my opinion.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
We had a lot of work to do on each other before we
should have even been in arelationship well, and if you're
both in a sort of a bad space,you all you do is bring out the
worst in each other rightbecause neither one of you is in
a good place.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, was that your longest he was in a good place.
Yeah, was that your longestrelationship?
No, uh, my longest relationshipwould technically be with my
kid's mom, but that was, thatwas my like my high school
sweetheart.
So that was all through highschool and then after that I had
a girlfriend in college, likemy senior year I believe that
was probably the longest like ayear well, post um high school.
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So, yeah, I've only had sincehigh school, I've only had two
serious relationships.
So I've been single for, youknow, majority of my adulthood
would you say you're more of arelationship type?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
do you prefer being in a relationship?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
yeah, I gotta say, man, life is easy when you got
one woman to satisfy.
Like I can't juggle too manypersonalities because I get
irritated super quick I was justgonna ask that, if you're quick
to cut things off, yeah, andthat's something I have to work
on myself as well, because oncesomebody does something I don't
like or triggering, I'm easy tocut them off instead of just
maybe having a conversation withthem or trying to work them
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through it or just having thatconversation about it.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So once you get the ick, you're done, you're cutting
them off.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But also to your point earlier, if someone hasn't
done the work on themselves,you can have that conversation
with them, but if they're notaccepting of the constructive
criticism and willing to,willing to work through it and
actually change, then you'regoing to beat your head against
the wall, you're not going to goanywhere, and so then you're
better off cutting it off.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Anyways, you know what I mean.
You sort of have to feel out ifthe person really has the
emotional maturity to workthrough those issues, because a
lot of people don't.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Is the thing that I find in the single sort of like
the single scene is there's nota lot of people that have the
maturity to actually workthrough.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah and then you know you get to a point where
you may meet someone.
They've gone through several,you know they've been on,
they've been in severalrelationships and they've been
carrying that trauma to eachrelationship and it's been
building up and building up andthen you meet them and then you
get dumped with all that.
So, like I said, doing the workon yourself is super important
for sure, what age range do youdate like?
describe your ideal partner uh,to be honest, how old are you?
(20:28):
I'll be 35 next month, okay,yeah, so, to be honest, I'm
really into older women, orolder women really into me.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
So you like all the women yeah, I love all the women
.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Like I said they to me they're just more peaceful,
like the young, the youngergeneration.
No disrespect to them, but inthis social media age it's like
everything's got to be put onblast and social media and, yeah
, it's just messy.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And you seem to have a really calm energy about
yourself.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, I'm really zen.
So, even though I'm from thecity, from Chicago, I'm a city
boy but I like to get out innature and just be peaceful and
calm and yeah, just really zen.
So I go up to Sedona a lot.
You know Slide Rock Park, it'sbeautiful just listening to the
water, so I'm really zen, yeahwhat are your hobbies?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
What do you do in your free time?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Besides working out, I game a little bit just to kind
of take my mind off stuff andthen mind off stuff and then,
like I said, I just get out ofnature, go up to sedona, the
verado stairs.
I just like to get out ofnature and just see different
stuff other than the cities andclubs and bars.
I've been seeing it for a lotof portion of my life so I'm
trying to, you know, seedifferent stuff.
I've been to colorado and hikedin the mountains when it's like
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snowy and stuff, so that waspretty cool to see how are you
in a relationship?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
are you romantic?
Are you?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
yeah, I like, I like doing exclusive stuff.
So I'll always and I've beenlike this since high school I
always try to find ways to likedo different stuff, like, for um
, for example, I believe,valentine's day with my ex uh,
yeah, back in 2022.
Um, I seen this.
Like this little, it was likeon tiktok.
Like this little ad for likethese, like explosion boxes, was
(22:01):
like you open the box and likeall these butterflies just
explode out.
Yeah, so I like that's prettycool.
And then you get to add likepictures of yourself, like
really customizable.
So, yeah, I like doingdifferent stuff.
Like that.
I seen one where you get tomake like a song or a mixtape
for your partner.
I mean, I'm single right now,but that's something that I
would do.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh, I love that I still have mixtape CDs from high
school that guys made me.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I swear I do.
It's so funny, I don't have a.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
CD player, but I have these mixtape CDs.
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
That's good Old-fashioned.
What would you say?
Your love language is.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I like all of it.
I mean before, I'm not.
It's only four, right?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I don't know if there's more been added, but I
think a good dose of everythingfor me.
I like that answer, yeah, yeah.
One last question before wemove on do you have a crazy
unique talent that not manypeople know about you.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
uh well, I just started development, developing
it, so I know how to cha-cha Itook.
I took dance lessons at theFred Astaire Studios out here in
Glendale.
Well, no, peoria, peoria,that's amazing.
So that was like back in uhmarch and then I had my first
dance competition in may.
So yeah, I'll develop a skillto dance and do the cha-cha
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that's funny.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I feel like football players are either one way or
the other.
They're either really good ontheir feet right with their
footwork or they're reallyawkward they're just like you
know what I mean.
Depending on, depending on howthey were so dance competition
in may.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
How'd you do?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
uh, we came in sec.
Mean, it was like a Dancingwith the Stars type thing, but
for that to be my firstcompetition, it just came in
second, you came second.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Because I was the only male star.
So how it was right.
We worked with a Fred Astaireprofessional, so I was the only
guy with a female partner,whereas all the rest of the
professional were girls.
No, were guys dancing withfemale like stars?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So I was the only one that you know.
You had the professional female.
Yeah, you were the only onewith a professional female.
Everyone else had aprofessional female.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So really, in dance or like the cha-cha right, the
male leads.
So when you got a maleprofessional leading with a star
, it looks better, right?
Yeah, for sure, as opposed tome.
I'm not a star, I mean I'm nota professional, right?
So it looks different.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
But we did good.
That's even more of anaccomplishment, because you beat
out all of the otherprofessional males except for
one.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Basically it was fun.
I got to unbutton my shirt, soI was in my magic mic mode.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And a Super bowl champion, and now a dance
champion.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Wow, you ready for it , I'm ready for it.
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Should I be flattered orfurious?
He's sweet, sexy and keeps meup all night, but I've never
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seen him in the daylight.
Is this just a spicy situationor am I his vampire side chick?
She?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
is his booty cool?
I feel yeah Right If you don'twant to do anything but be in
the bedroom together.
Yeah, yeah, next I would moveon, have higher expectations,
have more respect for yourselfespecially if you want a
relationship, if you want arelationship with the person.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
If you just want to hook up, there's nothing wrong
with that, like that.
That's what it.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, I mean I had I had a um not to get off the
subject, but I had a take onthat right.
I don't see anything wrong witha woman who only wants to date
a man for money, as long asthey're up front with that, like
, hey, this is how I move.
Or on the opposite side, Idon't think there's anything
wrong with a man who only wantsto date a woman and have sex
(25:46):
with her, as long as he's upfront about that.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
We talk about that all the time.
Everything is fine, as long asyou communicate it and you're
open and honest and upfront andyou don't keep them on a
different page.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
That's the thing is, if one person is going this is a
relationship, we're together,and the other person is like no,
we're not, we're just sleepingtogether.
It's like then you're on twodifferent pages.
That's where the problem isAbsolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So now we're going to discuss this reddit thread
worst dating advice you've everreceived and everyone kind of
chimed in the worst datingadvice they've received.
Have you ever received anyterrible dating advice?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
terrible dating advice?
No, I can't say I have.
I've usually operated on my own.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Of course I can't say I've had any terrible dating
advice my mom used to always saynever take a guy serious until
you have a ring on your fingerdate around.
You know, never commit, playhard to get, and I feel like a
lot of guys don't like that.
You know, if a guy finds outyou're dating around and if you
play hard to get, that's kind ofjuvenile right.
Yeah, my mom was burned so shewas a little she was jaded.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I don't think I've ever gotten bad.
I'm trying to think I don'tthink I've ever gotten bad.
I'm trying to think I don'tthink I've ever gotten bad in a
relationship.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So these are real life ones.
Good things come to those whowait.
It's kind of true Like get offyour ass and go and get it.
Go for what you want.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, you know, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Someone said women in clubs like it when men grab
their hips while dancing andstart dancing behind them.
No, they.
That is terrible advice.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Does any woman like to be grabbed on the dance floor
?
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
The trick to attracting women is to be mean
to them.
I told her to fuck off and shegot mad at that.
Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, damn.
But I don't think that thetrick to attract.
But you know what Some womenlike men that are dicks.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Well, and there's, like there's something to be
said about sarcastic banter anda little bit of the shit talk
and giving each other a hardtime or whatever like that.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But to be mean, yeah that's kind of overboard Some
women do like the bad boys andthey do say that nice guys
finish last.
There's that saying for areason I don't know.
That's true.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Buy her nice things to keep her happy, that's kind
of bad in a relationship or juston a date oh, just says, this
was bad dating advice.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
They've they received oh yeah, buy her nice things to
keep her happy, but then she'salways going to expect it, right
?
Yeah, that's true.
Someone told me to cheat on mygirlfriend so I can get as much
kitty as I can while I'm youngbut still have the wife material
locked down.
But then what if she finds out?
That's terrible advice what isthat?
expression fuck around and findout, like if you cheat, I felt
(28:20):
you have to be willing to losethat relationship.
Right, it's a numbers game.
Just swipe right on everyonefor better chances oh wow,
what's swipe right?
On the apps you know and youcan just accept every woman
agree to every woman and it'skind of true, guys do do that
because don't they say,statistically men get such a
small amount of dates, so whynot just increase your odds?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
yeah, yeah, it makes sense, and swipe right on
everybody stop trying.
Love will find you when youstop trying I don't know if I
agree with that I've also heardthat when people stop looking so
hard for it, it like theuniverse gives like, it like
comes to them.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
There's some that happened to me.
I kind of gave up on trying.
That wasn't my priority, I wasfocusing on myself and I think
maybe men can smell thedesperation or they can sense
that you're independent andyou're not, you don't need that.
So maybe that's attractive tothem because I once I'd kind of
stopped trying.
That's when't need that.
So maybe that's attractive tothem Because I once I kind of
stopped trying.
That's when I met my husband.
And maybe it's because they'relike intrigued that you're not
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all over them trying so hard tofind love.
I don't know, and this isterrible advice, even if they're
taken, hit on them anyways.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I mean, that's work for some people.
You'd be surprised it does.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
If you get pregnant, you can be together.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Oh, that is terrible.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Some women I've known women that have done that, like
they want to be with a guy thatdoesn't want to be with them,
so they intentionally getpregnant.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
That happened to my ex.
So his second child, the mom,got pregnant on purpose because
he didn't want to get married.
Pregnant on purpose because hedidn't want to get married.
And so when the baby was likesix months, she sat him down and
was like by her first birthday,we need to be engaged, I need
to have a ring on my finger andhe looked at her and he said I
(30:05):
he's, he goes.
I told you from the beginningthat's not in the cards and they
split like it was done.
And I'm like whatever made thiswoman think that having a baby?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
with a man who doesn't want to be with you is
going to make him want to bewith you and I feel like if he
doesn't want to be with youbefore the kid, like after the
kid, that's when the stresscomes out and it really tests
the relationship.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
So that's it's not gonna work damn, you're putting
a lot of stress on that kidgrowing up, right, it's so true.
Not fair looks don't matter,it's not going to work.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Damn, you're putting a lot of stress on that kid
growing up, right, it's so truethat's the most important thing.
Not fair Looks don't matter.
It's all about confidence andpersonality.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I disagree with this.
I can kind of see that, becauselooks can change, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I feel like confidence can take someone from
.
Like I always say confidencecan take, I'd go two to a ten
Lindsay, maybe like a two to aseven, two to a six.
Pete Davidson.
He's not that physically goodlooking right, but he look at
the women he gets Kim Kardashian, kaya Gerber.
He gets some beautiful women.
(31:03):
It's gotta be that he does, buthe's still not a ten.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I've also, I've also heard it's you know the size, oh
too, that it's gotta be thatit's gotta be something have you
ever dated a woman that wasvery average looking?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
you weren't interested in her.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Then you got to know her and she became more
attractive to you averagelooking women yeah, you like
average looking women yeahthey're less of a problem I
wouldn't say that, um, yeah, Imet beautiful women that weren't
problems and I met, you know,average looking women that were.
So it kind of just depends forme.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I know some men that don't like to date a beautiful
woman because it's morestressful.
They have to worry aboutcheating and it's and like
fighting guys off.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
They're insecure.
Exactly, it's more of acompetition.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I just think at that point you just don.
If you want to be happy for therest of your life, you got to
pick an ugly girl for your wife.
Oh stop, what song is that?
No, it's from like the 50s.
You don't know that song.
It's literally about if youwant to be happy, you got to
admire an ugly woman.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's an actual song.
It's an actual song, hilarious.
I'm adding that to my playlistas soon as we're done recording
this episode.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Use the dating apps Date multiple people at the same
time.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
That's bad advice.
I think that's pretty normal.
I think that's normal, I think.
But like, how many though?
How many is too many at onetime?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
And it depends.
I mean, if you're having sexwith multiple people at the same
time without being open aboutit and upfront I don't know,
show her who's boss, like howthat can be scary, like how are
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you gonna show her?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
that's a lawsuit.
The man's job for the weddingis just to show up.
It's a man's job for thewedding just to show up.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, technically it is like a woman's like day right
, it's her day.
Yeah, I, I feel, I and I feellike you have to know your
partner right, because, if,because, if you have a woman who
has to be in control, and issuper nitpicky about how the day
is going to go.
You're probably going to havean easier day if you just show
up.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
It's true, Just be confident and women will fall
all over.
You Again kind of goes back tothe confidence thing Don't kiss
for three months.
What Damn, oh this is worsedating advice.
Why would anyone get thatadvice like what a waste of
three months, because what ifyou finally kiss in there?
Terrible kisser right?
Yeah, no, let the ladiesapproach you two decades later.
(33:24):
Be yourself.
Be yourself was on this list alot.
Why is that bad dating advice?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I think that's great dating advice.
Why would you be anyone advice?
I think that's great datingadvice.
Why would you?
Be anyone other than yourselfthat's what you should leave
with maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Maybe that's the problem with people today is
nobody is themselves.
Everybody's trying to besomebody that they're not and
trying to impress people.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Everyone's trying to impress everyone.
Um, just keep texting, she'llfinally respond no, that's not
like harassment, it's harassmentyes, try to be her friend first
.
I think that's good advice.
Start.
They always say that.
You know.
They say marry your best friend, be with your best friend,
stick it out with him.
He might change.
They never change.
(34:05):
Yeah, no, that's a no.
Try, tinder, that was on herethe list a lot, although I'm at
my house still around it's stillaround, isn't that crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
We've had a couple guests on, though, who say that
tinder is like the hookup app.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Now it's not really so much a dating app anymore,
it's more of the hookup app okayI hate this next one, and I've
heard a lot of guys say thislook at her mother so you can
see if she's gonna be fat andugly when she's older.
It's so mean.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I hate that one I mean, but there is a, there is a
sliver of truth in it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Like genetics are genetics, you know like, luckily
, my mom is a knockout so I havenothing to worry about.
I can't relate.
I can't relate.
Uh, don't give up on her.
I don't know.
There might be a point whereyou just have to.
Sometimes you gotta give up onpeople just grab her by the
kitty.
Yeah, no, that's the p word, nodon't do that.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Don't do that.
Harassment again, anotherlawsuit.
They got that from Donald Trump.
Isn't that what he said?
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I'm sure it's just a bad selfie.
I'm sure she's much prettier inperson.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
She's probably not pretty in person take it from
someone who's not photogenic youare.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yeah, you're photogenic?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I am not photogenic.
I don't think I'm photogenic.
Some people just aren'tphotogenic.
Yeah, it's true, some peoplejust don't look good in photos.
There are some people that lookway prettier in person.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, and then the last one is to ask Reddit for
dating advice.
Oh touche, Wow.
So where is your favorite placeto take a girl on a?
Do you like coffee?
Do you like dinner?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Straight to the gym.
I got to see what type of shapeshe in.
No, I'm just playing, I don'tknow.
I like doing activities, solike a putt shack or I don't
know, like the what's it called.
That's fun Pop stroll.
Yeah, I like to do somethingfun, interactive.
You know movies.
You can't really get to knowsomebody over a movie and then
dinner is just, I mean, it'llget to a point for that, but
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that's just kind of cliche.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So I like to do some like activity or something maybe
do an escape room or somethingspeaking of gym on the first
date, how do you feel aboutwomen who wear a full face of
makeup to the gym?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
you know what?
I actually had a discussion onthreads about that.
I just don't understand howthey do it like if you're
sweating, like, does that comeoff, like, does it feel like
sticky and uncomfortable?
I don't mind, mind it, but youknow, I just don't understand it
.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I don't understand it either.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
And I see it and like I'm one who sweats a lot, and
so then it's like if I, if Ieven have an ounce of makeup on
my face like leftover fromsomething else, you're like
wiping yourself with a towel andthen pretty soon you've got
like makeup all over your towelor you're like you go like this
and you've got makeup all overyour sleeve, like it's.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I don't know how women do it I'm saying some
women work out and it just stayson.
I don't know if there's likesome like super, like it must.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah, I don't know what it is, some long lasting
the 24 hour for sure it must beexhausting.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I know some women that can never leave the house
without a full face of makeup,like how miserable I'd hate to
feel like I always have to be onyou know.
So now we're gonna chat aboutthe celebrity cup, where we
marinate in the juices of thecelebrities.
So you know how bill belichickvery fitting um how he's dating
jordan hudson?
yep, the 24 year old.
So I guess um a reporter wasaccepting an award and in her
(37:08):
speech she said if bill didn'tlike something I wrote, he'd
call and yell at me.
Now I totally understand whybill gave me such a hard time.
I was 28 years old at the timeand he couldn't relate to a
woman that old.
So she came out and said that,and then jordan clapped back and
said not much of a laugh.
No wonder so many have acontempt for the media,
(37:29):
especially those who want to bethe story rather than report on
the story.
So they're kind of going backand forth, okay jordan but how
do you feel about the agedifference in him dating such a
younger woman?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
uh, well, that seems to be like a thing now.
I know al pacino had a kid, oneof them like robert al pacino,
yeah, like one of them justrecently had a kid and they're
like 70 something years old, butit's like at that point, if I'm
70, 74, 75, I'm almost on myway out.
I don't know, maybe you canhave some fun, as long as it's
legal right.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
It's true, whatever makes him happy, whatever floats
his boat.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I mean, I'm pretty sure there's some nice older
women, maybe his age, but youknow, at that time maybe he just
wanted to have some fun beforehis is up on this earth.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
That's true.
Like didn't check everythingoff the bucket list.
So, it's like, let me justcheck this.
One last thing off.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I mean, she is gorgeous, she's stunning.
But how do you feel about herinserting herself in all of his
business affairs?
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I'm pretty sure he has say so over there.
I know, coach, like he's notgoing to have someone speak for
him, that he doesn't wantspeaking for him.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
So I'm pretty sure they have some level of
communication to where he'sallowing her to do that.
Yeah, and if that's his way ofmaking sure that, she's good
after he's gone, without givingher the life insurance policy or
the estate or his kids' stuff.
You know what I mean.
That's his sort of way ofprotecting her and making sure
that she's good after he's gonethen, why not do it that way?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
You know what I mean.
It's true.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
When you're not giving up your family legacy for
this woman, but you're makingsure that she's okay in a
different way.
Did you see her?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
real estate portfolio recently Like skyrocketed.
She has like 10, 15 propertiesNice.
So you like Bell, he was a goodguy, he was a good coach.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Greatest coach expertise.
Nice, so you like bell, he wasa good guy.
Yeah, greatest coach ever.
That was my first uh footballfamily, new england patriots, so
I got to see firsthand whythey've won so many
championships.
Just because of how he leadsthat organization and team.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, and, did you like, living in boston I love it
.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Boston is my favorite place to live.
Like we talk about dating thewomen that are gorgeous, the
cape virgins.
It's like a melting pot of somany different ethnicities.
So it is.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I went to boston for the first time this past summer
and only there for one daybecause we went out to martha's
vineyard in nantucket.
But I was like next summer I'mcoming back to boston for a
longer period of time because Ilove the city.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
It's a hidden gem for sure.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I love it I could be wrong, but doesn't it seem like
the east coast women are alittle more natural and real?
Speaker 3 (39:56):
yeah, I would say so, like you're talking about, as
far as like people have likewomen having like their bodies
done and stuff yeah that's more.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
That's more, I say prevalent out here, like not out
here, but like the west coastvegas it just seems like like
boston, they're a lot more aboutintellect and they're a lot
more down to earth, laid back,more real.
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Speaker 3 (40:26):
Was that a yogurt spot?
Frozen yogurt?
No, I haven't.
Oh, you have to take your girls.
They, oh, you have to take yourgirls.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
They have all the toppings.
It's delicious Nice, so rapidfire.
We're going to ask you thesequestions.
Let's get it.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Best or worst pickup line you've ever used, or heard
that on me or somebody else?
Either one.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Someone that's.
Has anyone ever used a pickupline on you?
Well, yeah.
The whole, you're a tall drinkof water.
I think that's like oh God.
It's always like either aheight thing or something or you
know, I could never date youbecause you'd be constantly
talking down to me.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
That one I haven't heard, but that's pretty clever.
I'd laugh at that one.
I would laugh at that one.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
What's your favorite body part on a partner?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Two legs.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Legs, I love legs.
What gives you the ick?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I say tone of voice like a woman that talks too
aggressive.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah.
Is watching porn consideredcheating In a relationship?
Probably yeah, I would say.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Before you're intimate?
Is it appropriate to ask yourdate how many people they've
been with?
No, it's not appropriate.
Is it acceptable to have yourdate how many people they've
been with?
No, it's not appropriate.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Is it acceptable to have sex on a first date At both
parties' consent?
Speaker 1 (41:39):
yeah, Should you disclose mental health issues
early on in a relationship?
I think so, yep.
And last but not least, what isyour favorite sexual position
and why?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
I like couch cowgirl.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Couch cowgirl.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I like couch cowgirl too Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Had to squeeze that in there.
Yeah, do you have any otherquestions?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
I don't have any questions for us?
Uh, so what's dating like foryou ladies out in arizona?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
well, you're married so tinder baby love it.
First swipe.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I, I've, I've, so I've been here since 2012.
Okay, um, I've had twosignificant relationships in
that time and I'm good on datingin.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Arizona.
Have you dated more inScottsdale?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
A little bit, A little bit.
Yeah, it's just.
It's this.
I just it's not a great placeto date, so I made a thread
about that.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I was asking like why is the dating pool Arizona so
bad?
And it was like a consensus,like it's terrible out here it's
just bad.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
It's like statistically ranked like the
number one worst place to dateyeah and I've dated my.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I have family in Dallas, so I go to Dallas a lot
and so.
I've dated guys in Dallas and Ifind I I like a long distance
relationship, I like a littlebit of distance, I like a little
bit of distance, I like alittle bit of space, and so once
I'm sort of ready to get backinto dating as something that
I'm doing intentionally, I thinkthat might be my jam.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Long distance yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
And not necessarily long distance, but not dating in
my neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Oh yeah, If that makes sense dating a good year.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
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Oh my God, I just totally gotcatfished.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
He looks absolutely nothing like his picture, so I
found out, the guy that I'vebeen dating is married with kids
.
His wife just reached out to me.
Oh my God, I just totally got catfished.
He looks absolutely nothinglike his picture.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So I found out, the guy that I've been dating is
married with kids.
His wife just reached out to me.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome to the Meat Market.
The single scene is aslaughterhouse and we are here
to devour it.
We are your hosts.
I'm Lindsay, I'm Jess andtoday's sizzling single is Zach.
Welcome, thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Thanks for having me.
Great to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So you were an NFL player and you won a Super Bowl.
Congrats.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
How did that?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
feel that must have been exhilarating.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, it was a great year.
It was my rookie year with theNew England Patriots.
It was an unbelievable time anda year I'll never forget One
for the books for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Wow, you played for the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Did you play with Tom Brady?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Of course, that's my quarterback.
Why Forever the GOAT.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
He was my high school crush.
Really I had a poster of him inmy locker.
Really High school From SportsIllustrated.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
That's awesome.
He's a great guy, great guy.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You know who my crush was?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Young Tom Brady was fine, he was good looking.
Yeah, yeah, he was good, he wascute.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
So how did you get into football, had you been
playing since you were a child?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
No, I actually started my freshman year of high
school, so it was just a way tojust have some extracurricular
activities.
I didn't play it growing up, sowhen I started at 15, I was
just completely brand new to it,and then I just so happened to
be good at it Over time as well,and did you start in the NFL
with the Patriots?
Yeah, so I got drafted in 2014out of Concordia St Paul First
play in school history to do it,and then made stops with
(01:33):
several other teams and ended mycareer out here with the
Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You played with the Cardinals oh nice who was?
The quarterback when you werewith the.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Cardinals Josh Rosen, so that was his first year as
well.
Then next year they got KylerMurray.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Nice.
So how was dating?
Being an NFL player, did youhave women just throw themselves
at you all the time?
Oh man, you had to like swapthem away.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I mean, if we're being honest, yeah, I mean,
that's just what comes with thelife as a professional athlete.
You're going to have, you know,women flocking themselves to
you, but, um, in my case, youknow, you just gotta have, you
know, uh, you gotta have a senseof what to look for right,
because if you can be involvedwith the wrong person, then your
entire career can be messed up.
So we've seen it time and timeagain can you pick them out
(02:15):
pretty easily I can like I'venever been in my swiss six pro
year career.
I've never had any instanceswith, like you know, some
getting into the headlines orbeing exposed for something, or
you know a woman coming out andsaying I did something to her,
so I got that sense.
But other guys, I guess theydon't.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
When you were dating, was it?
Were you worried about theintentions of the women?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, I got to be honest.
Yes, because you know at thatpoint, you know, as pro athletes
, you've got so much to lose,right, and there's millions of
dollars on the table, so you'vegot to really screen who you're
putting around you.
But I'm not going to lie.
I was fine being a bachelor andbeing single my years because I
was focused on the game, so Ireally wasn't too much into
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trying to find a date or a woman.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I was just going to ask that.
If you were in a relationshipwhile you were playing or if you
were single for your career?
No, were in a relationshipwhile you were playing, or if
you were single.
No, my career I was single.
I mean, I would have loved tobeen a relationship prior, but
you know it just didn't happen.
It's probably better that way.
Yeah, have you seenrelationships ruined because of
the lifestyle of?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
unfortunately, yes, I mean, there's good and there's
bad.
I've seen teammates, you knowthey had, you know, really rocky
relationships with their women,but I've seen, you know, great
marriages last.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So, you know, I think it's like case to case, yeah,
yeah and did women find it hardto trust you because there are
rumors that nfl players cheatwhen they're on the road.
Don't they have that reputation?
Yeah, I mean every athlete,because we've talked about this
before.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Like the um, what's his name?
Like the patrick mahomes rumorshere at bottle or whatever it
was like when he's supposedlythis great husband and great guy
and blah blah blah.
So it's like rumors, there'salways rumors right.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So did women find it hard to trust you.
Did you ever have that issue?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I don't think I've had that issue.
Like I said, I've seen it inother situations but my whole
thing I don't mean to soundcorny or anything but my whole
philosophy is if I'm corny oranything, but my whole
philosophy is if I'm withsomebody, I'm with them, right?
I believe life is much moresimple when you got one woman to
satisfy.
So if you're in a committedrelationship, right, it's best
if you just stick with thatperson.
You don't want to become like ayou know, a lust robot or
(04:15):
whatever they call it, Becausethen it's going to bring about a
whole other issues.
Right, and trying like, ifyou're a guy that, or an athlete
, pro athlete wants to datemultiple women, you gotta be.
You gotta have the knowledge toknow that.
You gotta deal with a lot ofdifferent personalities and
sometimes that can be hard tojuggle.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So it's one woman is exhausting enough.
I can't imagine trying tojuggle multiple and I feel like
some people like the drama right.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So, like the guys who maybe like like the drama, like
the sort of toxic relationshipsor the attention, they probably
lean more towards the let me,date multiple women and have
women in multiple cities.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I've seen instances of that.
But you know, like I said formyself, I don't like being toxic
, I don't like all the chaos,right.
So I'm a peaceful, private,quiet person.
But, like you said, other guys,they get the thrill out of that
.
I can't understand why, butmaybe that's just what works for
them.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, you sound like a keeper.
You sound like a good one.
So where did you meet peoplewhen you were playing in the NFL
, Like at clubs, bars?
Where did you meet women?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, primarily bars, clubs.
That was like my scene backthen, not so much now.
I don't drink.
I haven't drank in almost twoyears bars or clubs anymore, but
that's primarily where I meetwomen, so did they approach you?
Did you approach them?
99% of the time I'm approachingwomen because I'm a big guy.
For those that don't know, I'm6'6", very muscular man, so they
(05:34):
can get intimidated approachingme.
I've had some instances wherethat has happened, but 99% of
the time I'm approaching women.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
What was your line?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Oh man, Did you have a line?
He's 6'6".
Speaker 2 (05:46):
He doesn't need a line.
That's so true.
He does not need a line.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, it wasn't really a line, it was just it
wasn't.
You know, you just got to fillout the vibe Like maybe look at
what she's drinking, what she'swearing, compliment her, offer
another drink.
Just start a conversation onthis situation.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I'm such a gentleman I feel like too.
Did you ever get vibes fromwomen who were more forward in
approaching you that they werethe ones that maybe didn't have
great intentions?
Like they could see, you weresomeone they wanted to get in on
?
The lifestyle, or the money orthe you know, whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, yeah, I have a keen eye for that as well, so
for that as well.
So I can I can pretty muchsense bad intentions um so when
I get those red flags I kind ofjust move away.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I don't even entertain it.
Yeah, is it hard dating as apublic figure?
Do you find it tough?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
no, not really, because you, you can meet women
that have never watched sportsand never played or never
watched football, so they haveno idea who you are.
You know, they just see, maybelike a tall person, where, in my
case.
So, um, I like meeting womenlike that who don't know the
sport, never seen football, soit's not hard, right, but um, it
can be, depending on whereyou're at.
(06:53):
Like, if you're like a sportsclub, maybe they recognize you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I don't know, but for me it isn't, it isn't difficult
we read an interesting factthat nfl players spend more
money at the club than any otherathlete.
Have you heard this?
Do you know why?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Do I know why they spend it?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, they spend more money NFL players than any
other athlete at the bar at theclub's VIP service, because they
wear helmets when they play sopeople don't recognize them.
Ah, yeah, so they feel likethey have to be extra flashy to
kind of get the attention.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I done been in Miami where I seen a couple of bottle
wars.
So, yeah, great point, that'sgreat.
Yeah, guys have them.
But I'm cool on that.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So your last girlfriend?
How long ago was that?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Oh, this is like 2022 .
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Okay, and how did you guys meet?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So she used to be my, so I have dreadlocks, so she
used to be my loctician, so sheused to do my hair.
So that's really how we met.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Got you, so very natural organic.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Are you on the dating apps?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
No, no, no, I don't know.
I get paranoia being on thoseapps Just because maybe somebody
might recognize me.
Then they try to put me on ashade room.
Or you know, they got this newtea app and all that stuff.
Oh my God right.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I'm trying to stay away from these apps for sure,
it's kind of scary that and thenthat Facebook.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, they got a lot of those dating.
Are we dating the same guy,Phoenix type page.
So I'm trying to stay clearaway from all of that.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Especially if you're when you're dating, you're
talking to multiple people.
We've talked about this beforeRight Before you're exclusive,
you expect each other to betalking to multiple people and
women will post on those pages.
Just started talking with thisguy yesterday.
Is there any tea?
It's like, why are you lookingfor tea?
On a guy that you just startedtalking to yesterday.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You're not exclusive.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Like you know, it's crazy the culture that the
internet has created, the datingapps and these Facebook groups.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, it's ridiculous .
That's why I said I'm trying tostay clear away from it.
So, hopefully I can meetsomeone organically and not on
the app.
Have you been married before?
No, never been married.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But, you have kids.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yep two kids, two daughters.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Okay, and do they live with you full-time?
Do you split?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
time, part-time, split-time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
How do you find dating with daughters?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Well, my last relationship, you know, I had a.
Well, she had a daughter aswell.
So it's not difficult for me todate with kids, primarily
because I know I'm not andpeople get a misconception,
right, if someone has kids, thenyou have to feel like a role,
right, or like a step-parentrole with me, like if I'm dating
you, like you're here for me, Idon't need you to be a step-mom
, I don't need you, you know, tohave that relationship.
(09:21):
You know you need to be apositive influence, but I'm not
looking for you to fill a voidin my or fill a space in my
kids' lives.
They have that.
They have a dad, they have amom.
So if I'm dating you, you'rehere for me.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Are they protective over who you date?
Do they kind of say I don'tlike her?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
They'll tell me.
But you know I do my put theright people around me so they
can be a positive influence onthem.
But yeah, I don't think I'vebrought a woman around them that
they said they didn't like,because I know if I can tell if
they'll like them before theymeet them.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Do you have a rule with how soon you introduce a
woman to your kids?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, it's got to be like a couple of months, like I
don't know exactly how long,maybe like three months.
I'd't know exactly how long,maybe like three months.
I'd say that's three, fourmonths around around that time.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
so and what does it take for a woman to land a guy
like you?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
uh well, for me, physical health and mental
health is huge.
Where I go to therapy, I workout, I work on myself every day.
So they have to have afoundation for physical health.
I'm not saying you have to be aworkout junkie, but you have to
have some type of exerciseroutine because that's important
for mental health as well.
So their tag team partners Idon't believe you can have one
(10:34):
without the other scientificallyproven.
So she has to have a great headon her shoulders, right, great
routine, purpose and I would say, just like a good career, right
.
I like people that have goals,that have aspirations, so we can
feed that energy off each other.
So, yeah, those are big for me.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
And you do training right.
Yep so now, that's sort of yourpassion your job.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yep online men's health and fitness coaching Okay
.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So yeah, you turn dad bods into father figures.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I love that.
That's my line tell us aboutthat um.
So, yeah, I got into thatpost-retirement right.
So I retired in 2020 and then,through 2020, 2022, I went
through a bad spell ofdepression, anxiety, ptsd,
identity crisis, right.
So just trying to figure outwho I was past football, you
know, the sport is over with,right?
So now I got the next Godwilling, 40, 50 years to live.
(11:27):
So now, what is my purpose?
So, um, and I kind of dabbledinto fitness while I was playing
, so I kind of had that in my,in my back pocket.
But during that time, duringthat two-year span from 2020 to
2022, I gained a lot of weight,right.
I almost looked unrecognizable.
So once I looked in the mirror,I was like I to get myself back
in shape right now, talkedabout mental health and physical
(11:48):
health, so I dedicated my timeto get back in shape.
I dropped 42 pounds in fourmonths.
Within that time, I also gotISSA certified to be a fitness
coach.
And then, once I went on thatjourney, I realized you know,
this can really how thisimpacted me losing all this
weight and getting my mind andbody right.
I know this can help other guysas well, so that's why I
(12:09):
launched my business.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's amazing, thank you.
Are you all online or do you doin-person stuff?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, I do hybrid training, so I mean, obviously
you have to be in Arizona, soI'll do in-person training, but
it's very limited because myschedule is really full.
So online coaching has reallyhelped.
You know me, uh allowed me tohelp guys from anywhere.
I got clients all over thenation, even one in Canada and
Australia, Right, so I'm able todo more.
(12:38):
Right, You're only limited, acertain amount of hours in
person.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So and you only train men, or do do you have women
clients too?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Okay, so I do have a few women clients.
I'm never so.
The reason why I train menright and it's really age 30
through 45, middle-aged menbecause I can relate to them
right, but I will never Turnaround anybody that's serious
about getting in shape or betterin their health.
So I do have a few womenclients, but my niche or my
market is really men.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
After this episode airs, he's going to have a huge
in-route to female clients.
I love it.
Come get right.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Because we've talked about that too in episodes with
like, because we've talked aboutarticles right of like the
careers that are the topcheaters.
Oh, wow, and so we always talkabout, like personal trainers
and women jealous of theirboyfriends or husbands or
whatever, who are personaltrainers.
And I've even had friends whoare dating guys who are like I
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will not have my husbandtraining women and it's like a
source of tension in theirrelationships because the guys
are like this is my job, youknow I need to train who is
paying me?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
but it's like, so there's, there's that little, so
that's another reason why Iwanted to move online, cause
that eliminates that as well.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That is true, that is true.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But I've had instances where I train women,
even online, and they may have asignificant other that didn't
like the fact that another manwas training a girl.
So I'm like let me justeliminate all these problems and
just train men.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, so we always hear horror stories of dating in
Scottsdale.
Have you dated Scottsdale girls?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, not really, Because I live in Goodyear,
which is like way west, and I'veheard those stories as well.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You stay away.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Fortunately, unfortunately, I have not dated
a Scottsdale girl well, so youstay away, fortunately,
unfortunately, I have not dateda scottsdale girl.
Have you been cheated on?
To my knowledge, no, but no, Idon't know.
I don't know what people dowhen they're not around me, but
to my knowledge, no so what areyou looking for?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
are you looking to get married?
Are you looking to have morekids?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
uh, so that's a tough question.
So married here's the thingabout marriage.
Um, I believe it's great, it'sa great union between two people
, but it's not something that Idon't feel like.
My life is incomplete without,like, if I never get married for
the rest of my life, that'sfine, right, because marriage is
not for everybody.
But if I get the opportunity toexperience it, I would
(14:54):
definitely go for it, right.
But it's steps leading up tothat, right.
I gotta work on myself first,right, then I, then I got to vet
, you know, a woman that fitswhat I'm looking for and a
partner, and then we can takethings from there.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
What are your deal breakers?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I say bad habits, that's one Vaping.
I do not like women that vape.
And yeah, lack of physicalhealth, right, a woman that
don't exercise, that don'tdoesn't work on herself, it
doesn't have any like goals oraspirations.
Uh yeah, those are pretty muchdeal breakers.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Have you had any disaster dates?
I was just going to ask that.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Do you have any crazy , crazy dating stories?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Oh wow.
Yes, I don't know if I'mallowed to say on camera.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You don't have to say a name.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oh wow, She'll never know, they'll never know.
Yeah, I've had instances where,you know, I've been on a date
with a woman.
She secretly invited out herfriends, which is like all right
, whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Like along to the date, yes, or just sit in a
different part of the restaurantand watch no along to the date.
Just sit in a different part ofthe restaurant and watch no
along, so she showed up with herfriends.
Yeah, so everybody could get afree meal that is oh, are you
kidding me?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
you think, that's why ?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I don't know about a free meal, but maybe she.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Uh, I don't know, was this the first date it's more
like a second date and shedidn't tell you she was bringing
her friends.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
But my whole thing is like I don't know maybe she
wants like I don't know, I wantto say security but making sure
she's safe.
I don't know.
Maybe she wants like I don'tknow, I want to say security but
making sure she's safe.
I don't know, Whatever the casemay be, but if a woman don't
feel that safe around me, thenwe should just call this quits,
right, Because I don't want anyinstances where you think I'm
going to do something to you andthen I get in trouble and, like
I said, I'm trying to keepeverything you know peaceful,
(16:36):
private, quiet.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Maybe, maybe she was intimidated.
I dated a guy and on the firstdate he bought a male friend,
and then the second date hebought the same male friend,
like he never wanted to be alonewith me.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It was so weird.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Why?
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Maybe they're like insecure and they think they
don't have much to talk about,so they need that security
blanket of more people to.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't know Like a moderator.
Yeah, then you're on the datewith the wrong person If you
can't talk to the person thatyou're on a date with without
having someone to coach yourconversation.
Are you religious?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Do you go to church?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I'm not religious.
I'm spiritual.
I do believe in the higherpower, but I don't belong to any
religion.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So, if you don't mind me asking, why didn't it work
out with your ex?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
To be honest.
So, like I said, during thatyear, during that span of 2020
and 2022, right, I went througha lot of mental health issues,
right.
So I'm still trying to figureout myself post-football.
And then 2022 happened andthat's when we got in a
relationship.
So, in my opinion, I had a lotmore work to do on myself before
I got in a relationship, andthat's me taking accountability,
right, I believe she hadsomething to do on her end.
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So, when you got two people whohaven't did the work on
themselves and then just get ina relationship, you know things
tend to spiral out of control.
You know, sooner rather thanlater, and then that's to me,
that's what really happened.
Like you start to.
You know she's a great person.
I don't ever want to badmouthany of my exes.
You know they're great people,obviously, because you know I
(18:02):
chose to be in a relationshipwith them and they also chose me
as well.
Um, but yeah, we had my opinion.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
We had a lot of work to do on each other before we
should have even been in arelationship well, and if you're
both in a sort of a bad space,you all you do is bring out the
worst in each other rightbecause neither one of you is in
a good place.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, was that your longest he was in a good place.
Yeah, was that your longestrelationship?
No, uh, my longest relationshipwould technically be with my
kid's mom, but that was, thatwas my like my high school
sweetheart.
So that was all through highschool and then after that I had
a girlfriend in college, likemy senior year I believe that
was probably the longest like ayear well, post um high school.
(18:40):
So, yeah, I've only had sincehigh school, I've only had two
serious relationships.
So I've been single for, youknow, majority of my adulthood
would you say you're more of arelationship type?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
do you prefer being in a relationship?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
yeah, I gotta say, man, life is easy when you got
one woman to satisfy.
Like I can't juggle too manypersonalities because I get
irritated super quick I was justgonna ask that, if you're quick
to cut things off, yeah, andthat's something I have to work
on myself as well, because oncesomebody does something I don't
like or triggering, I'm easy tocut them off instead of just
maybe having a conversation withthem or trying to work them
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through it or just having thatconversation about it.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So once you get the ick, you're done, you're cutting
them off.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But also to your point earlier, if someone hasn't
done the work on themselves,you can have that conversation
with them, but if they're notaccepting of the constructive
criticism and willing to,willing to work through it and
actually change, then you'regoing to beat your head against
the wall, you're not going to goanywhere, and so then you're
better off cutting it off.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Anyways, you know what I mean.
You sort of have to feel out ifthe person really has the
emotional maturity to workthrough those issues, because a
lot of people don't.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Is the thing that I find in the single sort of like
the single scene is there's nota lot of people that have the
maturity to actually workthrough.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah and then you know you get to a point where
you may meet someone.
They've gone through several,you know they've been on,
they've been in severalrelationships and they've been
carrying that trauma to eachrelationship and it's been
building up and building up andthen you meet them and then you
get dumped with all that.
So, like I said, doing the workon yourself is super important
for sure, what age range do youdate like?
describe your ideal partner uh,to be honest, how old are you?
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I'll be 35 next month, okay,yeah, so, to be honest, I'm
really into older women, orolder women really into me.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
So you like all the women yeah, I love all the women
.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Like I said they to me they're just more peaceful,
like the young, the youngergeneration.
No disrespect to them, but inthis social media age it's like
everything's got to be put onblast and social media and, yeah
, it's just messy.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And you seem to have a really calm energy about
yourself.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, I'm really zen.
So, even though I'm from thecity, from Chicago, I'm a city
boy but I like to get out innature and just be peaceful and
calm and yeah, just really zen.
So I go up to Sedona a lot.
You know Slide Rock Park, it'sbeautiful just listening to the
water, so I'm really zen, yeahwhat are your hobbies?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
What do you do in your free time?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Besides working out, I game a little bit just to kind
of take my mind off stuff andthen mind off stuff and then,
like I said, I just get out ofnature, go up to sedona, the
verado stairs.
I just like to get out ofnature and just see different
stuff other than the cities andclubs and bars.
I've been seeing it for a lotof portion of my life so I'm
trying to, you know, seedifferent stuff.
I've been to colorado and hikedin the mountains when it's like
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snowy and stuff, so that waspretty cool to see how are you
in a relationship?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
are you romantic?
Are you?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
yeah, I like, I like doing exclusive stuff.
So I'll always and I've beenlike this since high school I
always try to find ways to likedo different stuff, like, for um
, for example, I believe,valentine's day with my ex uh,
yeah, back in 2022.
Um, I seen this.
Like this little, it was likeon tiktok.
Like this little ad for likethese, like explosion boxes, was
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like you open the box and likeall these butterflies just
explode out.
Yeah, so I like that's prettycool.
And then you get to add likepictures of yourself, like
really customizable.
So, yeah, I like doingdifferent stuff.
Like that.
I seen one where you get tomake like a song or a mixtape
for your partner.
I mean, I'm single right now,but that's something that I
would do.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh, I love that I still have mixtape CDs from high
school that guys made me.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I swear I do.
It's so funny, I don't have a.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
CD player, but I have these mixtape CDs.
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
That's good Old-fashioned.
What would you say?
Your love language is.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I like all of it.
I mean before, I'm not.
It's only four, right?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I don't know if there's more been added, but I
think a good dose of everythingfor me.
I like that answer, yeah, yeah.
One last question before wemove on do you have a crazy
unique talent that not manypeople know about you.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
uh well, I just started development, developing
it, so I know how to cha-cha Itook.
I took dance lessons at theFred Astaire Studios out here in
Glendale.
Well, no, peoria, peoria,that's amazing.
So that was like back in uhmarch and then I had my first
dance competition in may.
So yeah, I'll develop a skillto dance and do the cha-cha
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that's funny.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I feel like football players are either one way or
the other.
They're either really good ontheir feet right with their
footwork or they're reallyawkward they're just like you
know what I mean.
Depending on, depending on howthey were so dance competition
in may.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
How'd you do?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
uh, we came in sec.
Mean, it was like a Dancingwith the Stars type thing, but
for that to be my firstcompetition, it just came in
second, you came second.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Because I was the only male star.
So how it was right.
We worked with a Fred Astaireprofessional, so I was the only
guy with a female partner,whereas all the rest of the
professional were girls.
No, were guys dancing withfemale like stars?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So I was the only one that you know.
You had the professional female.
Yeah, you were the only onewith a professional female.
Everyone else had aprofessional female.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So really, in dance or like the cha-cha right, the
male leads.
So when you got a maleprofessional leading with a star
, it looks better, right?
Yeah, for sure, as opposed tome.
I'm not a star, I mean I'm nota professional, right?
So it looks different.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
But we did good.
That's even more of anaccomplishment, because you beat
out all of the otherprofessional males except for
one.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Basically it was fun.
I got to unbutton my shirt, soI was in my magic mic mode.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
And a Super bowl champion, and now a dance
champion.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Wow, you ready for it , I'm ready for it.
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We've got a listener questionto discuss.
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We only hang out after 10pm.
Should I be flattered orfurious?
He's sweet, sexy and keeps meup all night, but I've never
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seen him in the daylight.
Is this just a spicy situationor am I his vampire side chick?
She?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
is his booty cool?
I feel yeah Right If you don'twant to do anything but be in
the bedroom together.
Yeah, yeah, next I would moveon, have higher expectations,
have more respect for yourselfespecially if you want a
relationship, if you want arelationship with the person.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
If you just want to hook up, there's nothing wrong
with that, like that.
That's what it.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, I mean I had I had a um not to get off the
subject, but I had a take onthat right.
I don't see anything wrong witha woman who only wants to date
a man for money, as long asthey're up front with that, like
, hey, this is how I move.
Or on the opposite side, Idon't think there's anything
wrong with a man who only wantsto date a woman and have sex
(25:46):
with her, as long as he's upfront about that.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
We talk about that all the time.
Everything is fine, as long asyou communicate it and you're
open and honest and upfront andyou don't keep them on a
different page.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
That's the thing is, if one person is going this is a
relationship, we're together,and the other person is like no,
we're not, we're just sleepingtogether.
It's like then you're on twodifferent pages.
That's where the problem isAbsolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So now we're going to discuss this reddit thread
worst dating advice you've everreceived and everyone kind of
chimed in the worst datingadvice they've received.
Have you ever received anyterrible dating advice?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
terrible dating advice?
No, I can't say I have.
I've usually operated on my own.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Of course I can't say I've had any terrible dating
advice my mom used to always saynever take a guy serious until
you have a ring on your fingerdate around.
You know, never commit, playhard to get, and I feel like a
lot of guys don't like that.
You know, if a guy finds outyou're dating around and if you
play hard to get, that's kind ofjuvenile right.
Yeah, my mom was burned so shewas a little she was jaded.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I don't think I've ever gotten bad.
I'm trying to think I don'tthink I've ever gotten bad.
I'm trying to think I don'tthink I've ever gotten bad in a
relationship.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So these are real life ones.
Good things come to those whowait.
It's kind of true Like get offyour ass and go and get it.
Go for what you want.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yeah, you know, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Someone said women in clubs like it when men grab
their hips while dancing andstart dancing behind them.
No, they.
That is terrible advice.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Does any woman like to be grabbed on the dance floor
?
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
The trick to attracting women is to be mean
to them.
I told her to fuck off and shegot mad at that.
Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, damn.
But I don't think that thetrick to attract.
But you know what Some womenlike men that are dicks.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Well, and there's, like there's something to be
said about sarcastic banter anda little bit of the shit talk
and giving each other a hardtime or whatever like that.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But to be mean, yeah that's kind of overboard Some
women do like the bad boys andthey do say that nice guys
finish last.
There's that saying for areason I don't know.
That's true.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Buy her nice things to keep her happy, that's kind
of bad in a relationship or juston a date oh, just says, this
was bad dating advice.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
They've they received oh yeah, buy her nice things to
keep her happy, but then she'salways going to expect it, right
?
Yeah, that's true.
Someone told me to cheat on mygirlfriend so I can get as much
kitty as I can while I'm youngbut still have the wife material
locked down.
But then what if she finds out?
That's terrible advice what isthat?
expression fuck around and findout, like if you cheat, I felt
(28:20):
you have to be willing to losethat relationship.
Right, it's a numbers game.
Just swipe right on everyonefor better chances oh wow,
what's swipe right?
On the apps you know and youcan just accept every woman
agree to every woman and it'skind of true, guys do do that
because don't they say,statistically men get such a
small amount of dates, so whynot just increase your odds?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
yeah, yeah, it makes sense, and swipe right on
everybody stop trying.
Love will find you when youstop trying I don't know if I
agree with that I've also heardthat when people stop looking so
hard for it, it like theuniverse gives like, it like
comes to them.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
There's some that happened to me.
I kind of gave up on trying.
That wasn't my priority, I wasfocusing on myself and I think
maybe men can smell thedesperation or they can sense
that you're independent andyou're not, you don't need that.
So maybe that's attractive tothem because I once I'd kind of
stopped trying.
That's when't need that.
So maybe that's attractive tothem Because I once I kind of
stopped trying.
That's when I met my husband.
And maybe it's because they'relike intrigued that you're not
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all over them trying so hard tofind love.
I don't know, and this isterrible advice, even if they're
taken, hit on them anyways.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I mean, that's work for some people.
You'd be surprised it does.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
If you get pregnant, you can be together.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Oh, that is terrible.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Some women I've known women that have done that, like
they want to be with a guy thatdoesn't want to be with them,
so they intentionally getpregnant.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
That happened to my ex.
So his second child, the mom,got pregnant on purpose because
he didn't want to get married.
Pregnant on purpose because hedidn't want to get married.
And so when the baby was likesix months, she sat him down and
was like by her first birthday,we need to be engaged, I need
to have a ring on my finger andhe looked at her and he said I
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he's, he goes.
I told you from the beginningthat's not in the cards and they
split like it was done.
And I'm like whatever made thiswoman think that having a baby?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
with a man who doesn't want to be with you is
going to make him want to bewith you and I feel like if he
doesn't want to be with youbefore the kid, like after the
kid, that's when the stresscomes out and it really tests
the relationship.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
So that's it's not gonna work damn, you're putting
a lot of stress on that kidgrowing up, right, it's so true.
Not fair looks don't matter,it's not going to work.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Damn, you're putting a lot of stress on that kid
growing up, right, it's so truethat's the most important thing.
Not fair Looks don't matter.
It's all about confidence andpersonality.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I disagree with this.
I can kind of see that, becauselooks can change, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I feel like confidence can take someone from
.
Like I always say confidencecan take, I'd go two to a ten
Lindsay, maybe like a two to aseven, two to a six.
Pete Davidson.
He's not that physically goodlooking right, but he look at
the women he gets Kim Kardashian, kaya Gerber.
He gets some beautiful women.
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It's gotta be that he does, buthe's still not a ten.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I've also, I've also heard it's you know the size, oh
too, that it's gotta be thatit's gotta be something have you
ever dated a woman that wasvery average looking?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
you weren't interested in her.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Then you got to know her and she became more
attractive to you averagelooking women yeah, you like
average looking women yeahthey're less of a problem I
wouldn't say that, um, yeah, Imet beautiful women that weren't
problems and I met, you know,average looking women that were.
So it kind of just depends forme.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I know some men that don't like to date a beautiful
woman because it's morestressful.
They have to worry aboutcheating and it's and like
fighting guys off.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
They're insecure.
Exactly, it's more of acompetition.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I just think at that point you just don.
If you want to be happy for therest of your life, you got to
pick an ugly girl for your wife.
Oh stop, what song is that?
No, it's from like the 50s.
You don't know that song.
It's literally about if youwant to be happy, you got to
admire an ugly woman.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's an actual song.
It's an actual song, hilarious.
I'm adding that to my playlistas soon as we're done recording
this episode.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Use the dating apps Date multiple people at the same
time.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
That's bad advice.
I think that's pretty normal.
I think that's normal, I think.
But like, how many though?
How many is too many at onetime?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
And it depends.
I mean, if you're having sexwith multiple people at the same
time without being open aboutit and upfront I don't know,
show her who's boss, like howthat can be scary, like how are
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you gonna show her?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
that's a lawsuit.
The man's job for the weddingis just to show up.
It's a man's job for thewedding just to show up.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, technically it is like a woman's like day right
, it's her day.
Yeah, I, I feel, I and I feellike you have to know your
partner right, because, if,because, if you have a woman who
has to be in control, and issuper nitpicky about how the day
is going to go.
You're probably going to havean easier day if you just show
up.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
It's true, Just be confident and women will fall
all over.
You Again kind of goes back tothe confidence thing Don't kiss
for three months.
What Damn, oh this is worsedating advice.
Why would anyone get thatadvice like what a waste of
three months, because what ifyou finally kiss in there?
Terrible kisser right?
Yeah, no, let the ladiesapproach you two decades later.
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Be yourself.
Be yourself was on this list alot.
Why is that bad dating advice?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I think that's great dating advice.
Why would you be anyone advice?
I think that's great datingadvice.
Why would you?
Be anyone other than yourselfthat's what you should leave
with maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Maybe that's the problem with people today is
nobody is themselves.
Everybody's trying to besomebody that they're not and
trying to impress people.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Everyone's trying to impress everyone.
Um, just keep texting, she'llfinally respond no, that's not
like harassment, it's harassmentyes, try to be her friend first
.
I think that's good advice.
Start.
They always say that.
You know.
They say marry your best friend, be with your best friend,
stick it out with him.
He might change.
They never change.
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Yeah, no, that's a no.
Try, tinder, that was on herethe list a lot, although I'm at
my house still around it's stillaround, isn't that crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
We've had a couple guests on, though, who say that
tinder is like the hookup app.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Now it's not really so much a dating app anymore,
it's more of the hookup app okayI hate this next one, and I've
heard a lot of guys say thislook at her mother so you can
see if she's gonna be fat andugly when she's older.
It's so mean.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I hate that one I mean, but there is a, there is a
sliver of truth in it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Like genetics are genetics, you know like, luckily
, my mom is a knockout so I havenothing to worry about.
I can't relate.
I can't relate.
Uh, don't give up on her.
I don't know.
There might be a point whereyou just have to.
Sometimes you gotta give up onpeople just grab her by the
kitty.
Yeah, no, that's the p word, nodon't do that.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Don't do that.
Harassment again, anotherlawsuit.
They got that from Donald Trump.
Isn't that what he said?
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I'm sure it's just a bad selfie.
I'm sure she's much prettier inperson.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
She's probably not pretty in person take it from
someone who's not photogenic youare.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yeah, you're photogenic?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I am not photogenic.
I don't think I'm photogenic.
Some people just aren'tphotogenic.
Yeah, it's true, some peoplejust don't look good in photos.
There are some people that lookway prettier in person.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, and then the last one is to ask Reddit for
dating advice.
Oh touche, Wow.
So where is your favorite placeto take a girl on a?
Do you like coffee?
Do you like dinner?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Straight to the gym.
I got to see what type of shapeshe in.
No, I'm just playing, I don'tknow.
I like doing activities, solike a putt shack or I don't
know, like the what's it called.
That's fun Pop stroll.
Yeah, I like to do somethingfun, interactive.
You know movies.
You can't really get to knowsomebody over a movie and then
dinner is just, I mean, it'llget to a point for that, but
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that's just kind of cliche.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So I like to do some like activity or something maybe
do an escape room or somethingspeaking of gym on the first
date, how do you feel aboutwomen who wear a full face of
makeup to the gym?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
you know what?
I actually had a discussion onthreads about that.
I just don't understand howthey do it like if you're
sweating, like, does that comeoff, like, does it feel like
sticky and uncomfortable?
I don't mind, mind it, but youknow, I just don't understand it
.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I don't understand it either.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
And I see it and like I'm one who sweats a lot, and
so then it's like if I, if Ieven have an ounce of makeup on
my face like leftover fromsomething else, you're like
wiping yourself with a towel andthen pretty soon you've got
like makeup all over your towelor you're like you go like this
and you've got makeup all overyour sleeve, like it's.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I don't know how women do it I'm saying some
women work out and it just stayson.
I don't know if there's likesome like super, like it must.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah, I don't know what it is, some long lasting
the 24 hour for sure it must beexhausting.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I know some women that can never leave the house
without a full face of makeup,like how miserable I'd hate to
feel like I always have to be onyou know.
So now we're gonna chat aboutthe celebrity cup, where we
marinate in the juices of thecelebrities.
So you know how bill belichickvery fitting um how he's dating
jordan hudson?
yep, the 24 year old.
So I guess um a reporter wasaccepting an award and in her
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speech she said if bill didn'tlike something I wrote, he'd
call and yell at me.
Now I totally understand whybill gave me such a hard time.
I was 28 years old at the timeand he couldn't relate to a
woman that old.
So she came out and said that,and then jordan clapped back and
said not much of a laugh.
No wonder so many have acontempt for the media,
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especially those who want to bethe story rather than report on
the story.
So they're kind of going backand forth, okay jordan but how
do you feel about the agedifference in him dating such a
younger woman?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
uh, well, that seems to be like a thing now.
I know al pacino had a kid, oneof them like robert al pacino,
yeah, like one of them justrecently had a kid and they're
like 70 something years old, butit's like at that point, if I'm
70, 74, 75, I'm almost on myway out.
I don't know, maybe you canhave some fun, as long as it's
legal right.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
It's true, whatever makes him happy, whatever floats
his boat.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I mean, I'm pretty sure there's some nice older
women, maybe his age, but youknow, at that time maybe he just
wanted to have some fun beforehis is up on this earth.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
That's true.
Like didn't check everythingoff the bucket list.
So, it's like, let me justcheck this.
One last thing off.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I mean, she is gorgeous, she's stunning.
But how do you feel about herinserting herself in all of his
business affairs?
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I'm pretty sure he has say so over there.
I know, coach, like he's notgoing to have someone speak for
him, that he doesn't wantspeaking for him.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
So I'm pretty sure they have some level of
communication to where he'sallowing her to do that.
Yeah, and if that's his way ofmaking sure that, she's good
after he's gone, without givingher the life insurance policy or
the estate or his kids' stuff.
You know what I mean.
That's his sort of way ofprotecting her and making sure
that she's good after he's gonethen, why not do it that way?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
You know what I mean.
It's true.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
When you're not giving up your family legacy for
this woman, but you're makingsure that she's okay in a
different way.
Did you see her?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
real estate portfolio recently Like skyrocketed.
She has like 10, 15 propertiesNice.
So you like Bell, he was a goodguy, he was a good coach.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Greatest coach expertise.
Nice, so you like bell, he wasa good guy.
Yeah, greatest coach ever.
That was my first uh footballfamily, new england patriots, so
I got to see firsthand whythey've won so many
championships.
Just because of how he leadsthat organization and team.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, and, did you like, living in boston I love it
.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Boston is my favorite place to live.
Like we talk about dating thewomen that are gorgeous, the
cape virgins.
It's like a melting pot of somany different ethnicities.
So it is.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I went to boston for the first time this past summer
and only there for one daybecause we went out to martha's
vineyard in nantucket.
But I was like next summer I'mcoming back to boston for a
longer period of time because Ilove the city.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
It's a hidden gem for sure.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I love it I could be wrong, but doesn't it seem like
the east coast women are alittle more natural and real?
Speaker 3 (39:56):
yeah, I would say so, like you're talking about, as
far as like people have likewomen having like their bodies
done and stuff yeah that's more.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
That's more, I say prevalent out here, like not out
here, but like the west coastvegas it just seems like like
boston, they're a lot more aboutintellect and they're a lot
more down to earth, laid back,more real.
You know, yeah, now it's timeto get to know you with Zoya,
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(40:25):
Have you been to Zoya before?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Was that a yogurt spot?
Frozen yogurt?
No, I haven't.
Oh, you have to take your girls.
They, oh, you have to take yourgirls.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
They have all the toppings.
It's delicious Nice, so rapidfire.
We're going to ask you thesequestions.
Let's get it.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Best or worst pickup line you've ever used, or heard
that on me or somebody else?
Either one.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Someone that's.
Has anyone ever used a pickupline on you?
Well, yeah.
The whole, you're a tall drinkof water.
I think that's like oh God.
It's always like either aheight thing or something or you
know, I could never date youbecause you'd be constantly
talking down to me.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
That one I haven't heard, but that's pretty clever.
I'd laugh at that one.
I would laugh at that one.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
What's your favorite body part on a partner?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Two legs.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Legs, I love legs.
What gives you the ick?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I say tone of voice like a woman that talks too
aggressive.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah.
Is watching porn consideredcheating In a relationship?
Probably yeah, I would say.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Before you're intimate?
Is it appropriate to ask yourdate how many people they've
been with?
No, it's not appropriate.
Is it acceptable to have yourdate how many people they've
been with?
No, it's not appropriate.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Is it acceptable to have sex on a first date At both
parties' consent?
Speaker 1 (41:39):
yeah, Should you disclose mental health issues
early on in a relationship?
I think so, yep.
And last but not least, what isyour favorite sexual position
and why?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
I like couch cowgirl.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Couch cowgirl.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I like couch cowgirl too Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Had to squeeze that in there.
Yeah, do you have any otherquestions?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
I don't have any questions for us?
Uh, so what's dating like foryou ladies out in arizona?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
well, you're married so tinder baby love it.
First swipe.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I, I've, I've, so I've been here since 2012.
Okay, um, I've had twosignificant relationships in
that time and I'm good on datingin.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Arizona.
Have you dated more inScottsdale?
Speaker 2 (42:22):
A little bit, A little bit.
Yeah, it's just.
It's this.
I just it's not a great placeto date, so I made a thread
about that.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I was asking like why is the dating pool Arizona so
bad?
And it was like a consensus,like it's terrible out here it's
just bad.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
It's like statistically ranked like the
number one worst place to dateyeah and I've dated my.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I have family in Dallas, so I go to Dallas a lot
and so.
I've dated guys in Dallas and Ifind I I like a long distance
relationship, I like a littlebit of distance, I like a little
bit of distance, I like alittle bit of space, and so once
I'm sort of ready to get backinto dating as something that
I'm doing intentionally, I thinkthat might be my jam.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Long distance yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
And not necessarily long distance, but not dating in
my neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Oh yeah, If that makes sense dating a good year.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Well, thank you so much for joining us this week at
the meat market and thank youso much, zach.
If you want to go out on a datewith zach, send us a dm at meat
market podcast.
We have a tall glass of waterright here.
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Oh my God, I just totally gotcatfished.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
He looks absolutely nothing like his picture, so I
found out, the guy that I'vebeen dating is married with kids
.
His wife just reached out to me.
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