December 3, 2025 • 43 mins
Scottsdale looks wild, but what really happens when a bachelorette crew hits Old Town?
Hayden, a bachelorette host and club promoter, spills the juicy secrets. From brides crossing lines to chaos avoided with moms in tow, he reveals how alcohol, energy, and a little finesse make nights unforgettable without total disaster.
We cover temptation, loyalty, red flags, and why being nice to bartenders is more impressive than a LinkedIn profile. Expect jaw-dropping stories, rapid-fire dating science on eye contact, scent, and first-date chemistry, plus laughs at the absurdity of nightlife logic.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.
He looks absolutely nothing likehis picture.
So I found out the guy that I'vebeen dating is married with
kids.
His wife just reached out to me.
SPEAKER_02 (00:15):
Welcome to the meat market.
The single scene is aslaughterhouse, and we are here
to devour it.
We are your hosts.
I'm Lindsay.
I'm Jess.
And today's sizzling single isHayden.
Welcome.
SPEAKER_00 (00:24):
Thanks for having me, guys.
SPEAKER_02 (00:25):
So you are a bachelorette party host in Old
Town Scottsdale.
Oh, the stories you must have.
Are women as scandalous as wehear?
SPEAKER_00 (00:35):
Uh I would say no.
No.
That's a little bit more playedout than what you hear, because
you only hear the bad.
You never really hear the good.
You know what I'm saying?
So I've been around a lot ofparties, and I'm not gonna say
they don't get a little bitcrazy, but for the most part, it
there's a lot of times it's morechill.
SPEAKER_02 (00:52):
Um, but definitely working at the clubs too, you
see a lot of stuff go down thatso has your view on women
changed since working with a lotof bachelorette parties?
Because we have friends that weare friends with some of the
guys from Thunder from DownUnder, and they have a lot of
bachelorette parties coming in,and they see these bachelorettes
cheat on their fiancees who'swho they're gonna marry.
(01:13):
And so they their view of womenis just like in the weeds.
They're like, we do not trustwomen.
Do you have you seen stuff likethat that's kind of altered your
perception of women?
SPEAKER_00 (01:22):
Not altered it, but just kind of makes you a lot
more aware and a lot more likenot naive, you know?
It's just like you put somebodyin an environment where there's
alcohol and people having funand maybe you don't have the
best influences, and a lot ofpeople aren't strong enough to
make their own decisions, Iwould say.
So whatever their environment,whatever people around them are
influencing them to do, they'regonna do that.
They probably go home if you'relike a piece of shit, you know,
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as you should.
But I mean, I would say it'smore environmentally, so it's
just like being smart about it.
Like for me, unfortunately, mywife, she's gonna have a
bachelorette party, but it'sgonna be a joint bachelorette
party.
So it'll be like BachelorBachelorette party.
I see those are super cool.
Um, or another smart thing to dois like bring like your
significant others, like mom orsister or something like that on
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the trip.
They gotta die on your ass.
Yeah, so that's like thesmartest things I would say to
do.
So it's just like just moving alittle bit different and
realizing that like times aredifferent.
SPEAKER_02 (02:17):
And that's actually smart.
My mom's gonna join.
She really wants to go.
SPEAKER_00 (02:22):
She would love to be there.
Be the spy.
Right.
And for me, a lot of times, likethe moms are super fun too.
Like when I do like thebachelorette parties, like
they're always like high energy,like making sure everybody's
good.
It's like another helping hand,too, which you don't really
need, but I think sometimes it'sfun to have moms.
SPEAKER_04 (02:36):
My cousin recently had a bachelorette party, and
she invited her mom and then mymom, also, who her aunt or
whatever.
Um, and they had a like a greattime.
Yeah, and my sister-in-lawinvited her mom, and I think my
mom on hers year that was like12 years ago, I think that my
brother and her got married, butit like it made it fun.
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It's fun to have moms so long.
SPEAKER_02 (02:59):
I think mom's gonna be the craziest, the wildest.
SPEAKER_00 (03:02):
Definitely.
They bring the party for sure.
But it's kind of like a coolbonding experience, I guess.
I mean, I'm haven't beenobviously in a bachelorette
party, so I don't really know.
But I can imagine if you bringlike your mom or like your
fiance's mom, like it's a timeto get closer, get to know each
other, and see yourselves inlike a different light.
So I feel like it's a good thingoverall, because I mean family's
the most important, so you mayas well have family around.
SPEAKER_02 (03:23):
What's the craziest thing you've seen out and about
in Old Town?
The craziest thing I've seen.
SPEAKER_00 (03:28):
Man.
I've seen a lot, but I would sayone story that I have is when I
was promoting, um I didn't knowshe was a bride at the time
because brides were white,right?
And they wear normally somethingthat says the bride or something
like that.
She was in like pink.
So like we were like hangingout, whatever.
Um, she just kind of came up tome, and then she started kissing
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me in the club.
Or I guess yeah, I guess Istarted kissing her, but same
thing, either or.
But anyway, so yeah, so I haveno clue, like, she's like the
bride at this point.
So now it's like like 1.30 inthe morning, she finally like
tells me she's the bride.
And it's like, oh shit.
Okay, but I was like, I mean,we're kinda already this far, so
it's like at this point, like,what am I gonna do?
(04:10):
Like, it's not my problem, notmy fault.
And like, if it wasn't me, she'sgonna cheat with somebody else
too.
So it's like, I'm already likein the mix right there.
But I was like, I'm not gonna doanything crazy.
The clubs are about to close.
So then like 15, 20 minutes goesby, and it's like 10 minutes
before the clubs close.
And she's like, let's gooutside.
And I'm thinking, like, okay,like maybe like her group went
out there, she's like trying tofind her friend.
(04:30):
So I'm like, okay, cool, I gotyou.
So we go outside, and then shelike looks around, she's like,
Oh fuck.
And I was like, what?
Like he has to go outside.
We're outside, like, what's theproblem?
She goes, There's people outhere, and I go, Yeah, no shit.
The club's gonna close in 10minutes.
Like, obviously, there's people,it's old town, there's 20
different clubs around here.
And I was like, like, what's theproblem?
(04:51):
She goes, I want you, uh, she'slike, I want you to fuck me
behind the club.
And I was like, What?
You're getting married in like10, 20 days.
SPEAKER_04 (05:00):
Scandalous, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:01):
And I was like, You're fucking wild for that
one.
SPEAKER_04 (05:04):
Do you know what she told her fiance?
SPEAKER_00 (05:06):
No clue, I don't even know her name.
So I don't know what she toldhim.
Probably not a damn thing.
SPEAKER_04 (05:14):
Sure not.
That would be my thing.
Is like, what would you say?
How would you go back home andjust like be normal and get
married?
SPEAKER_02 (05:22):
Oh, I'm sure she didn't say anything, right?
But the stories I hear, itsounds like women are worse than
men, right?
Or just as bad.
SPEAKER_00 (05:29):
Or just as bad.
I think everybody sucks equally,to be honest.
SPEAKER_02 (05:34):
My question is, why would you get married if you're
still doing that?
She clearly wants to do that,right?
Make out with random guys.
So why would you get married?
SPEAKER_04 (05:41):
Maybe her fiance is also cheating on her.
Maybe they're just in a toxicrelationship and they just cheat
on each other.
SPEAKER_00 (05:48):
I feel like it's like I don't know.
This is my thing, is like Irealize like girls when they get
married, a lot of times the guyis like a lot less look good
looking than them.
A lot of times they're marryinglike uglier people.
I feel like it's more like asecurity thing to where they're
like, oh, he's not thatattractive, he won't cheat on
me.
Like, not a bunch of girls aregonna go hit on him, or he's
gonna feel like he's gotsomebody that's way out of his
(06:10):
league, so he's not gonna doanything like to jeopardize
that.
And then when a girl goes outand has fun and starts getting a
little bit of attention andstarts being around some better
looking people, some people thathave money, things change real
quick, and they'll sacrifice amoment of fun for like a
lifetime, you know what I'msaying?
SPEAKER_02 (06:25):
Or I wonder if she was like marrying an older guy
for his money and he's old andnot so attractive, and then
she's out with these young.
SPEAKER_04 (06:33):
Maybe, maybe.
That's funny.
I remember my sister'sbachelorette party here and God,
it was like in like 2015.
Um, and everybody came here fromthe Midwest.
She lived here also at thattime.
Um, and so I planned it and wewent to one of the clubs.
You remember Mint?
Oh, yeah.
So we had a table at Mint in2015, and I just remember like
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all the girls were so smalltown.
It wasn't even on anybody'sradar to be like that way in the
club because they it was likethe first time they'd ever ex
even experienced a club becausethey were all coming from such a
small town.
But now the city I feel like haschanged so much that it's this
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destination place for bachelorand bachelorette parties.
Like the expectations havechanged.
Yeah.
Because the bachelor party thatwe met that one weekend,
remember?
They were all married, or atleast remember the Bradley
Cooper looking guy, yeah.
Was married and how scandaloushe was.
SPEAKER_02 (07:32):
How scandal he was hitting on everyone like
freaking had boobs.
He really was.
And then didn't you went on adate with one of the guys and
then you found out that he wasmarried, right?
SPEAKER_04 (07:41):
No, I don't know.
I I don't know that he wasmarried.
But you just it's just I kind ofmaybe.
Oh my god.
There were some, there were someyeah, there were some
questionable things.
He may, he may have beenmarried.
SPEAKER_02 (07:56):
They're probably like, oh, we're in a different
country now.
It doesn't count.
But now that I think about it,we know someone, a mutual
friend.
I'm not gonna name their names,but during her first marriage,
her bachelorette party in Vegas,she cheated.
She had sex with a guy in Vegasand came back, married the guy,
and never told him, never toldanyone.
And she told me, and I was like,dang, how could why would you
(08:17):
Did you go on the Bacheloretteparty?
I didn't.
I met her right after.
Oh, you did?
Do I know who I do?
I'm trying to think who it is.
But anyway, but that's yeah,it's crazy how many women do
that.
Like on the Bachelorette party.
I know.
SPEAKER_00 (08:30):
I don't feel so guilty.
I don't that's the thing that Idon't get.
Like when like BachelorBachelorette parties come,
they're like, oh, it's my lasttime to have fun, it's my last
time for freedom.
I'm like, when the fuck are yourlast time for fun or freedom was
when you first started datingthe person?
Right.
Like, fuck you mean like whenyou put a ring on somebody, like
the next day it doesn't changeanything.
It's so true.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, all it is is basically afinancial agreement and like a
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fucking shiny little object thatyou have on your finger.
So it's like nothing changedfrom the when you guys first
started dating until now, butpeople just get these
expectations, they just get alittle they want to have fun,
let them, you know?
As long as it doesn't happen tome.
Because my girl cheats on me,hell, though.
Everybody else.
SPEAKER_02 (09:11):
So do you get hit on a lot when you're out and about
during these parties?
SPEAKER_00 (09:15):
Um I would say yeah, because it's just like you and
somebody else.
Like when you're like doing thepool boys like you don't really
get hit on, but like who elseare they gonna talk to?
Who else are they gonna giveyour attention to?
You know what I'm saying?
And then when we come, like wewear like swim shorts, like it's
funny.
A lot of girls will be like, oh,we're expecting you to pull up
in like stripper outfits or likespeedos or some shit.
I'm like, we're like threelevels above that.
(09:35):
Not like too far above astripper, but pretty far.
You know, close enough.
So it's like, I mean, theenvironment's good, everybody
gets drinking, but when you'rearound like 10, 15 girls like
that, the whole point of the jobtoo, like, out of everything, is
to make sure the bride is havingthe best time, making sure she's
taken care of, making sure she'shaving fun with all her groups.
Like, that's the main focus.
So, like, when you're workingthere, like, yeah, like people
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do try to hit on you or do this,that third, but it's just like
you just gotta keep the mainthing the main thing, which is
making sure the bride is havinga good time, making sure the
group feels all included.
SPEAKER_02 (10:05):
So, how do you do that?
SPEAKER_00 (10:07):
Uh you give two seconds of your attention here,
two seconds of your attentionthere, go check on the bride,
make sure she's okay, ask themif they need anything.
If you're ever in like a stickysituation where you're like,
damn, I might not get introuble, but like I gotta get
out of this one.
I'll just be like, Oh yeah, ohyeah, I forgot I I gotta go make
some shots for you guys, or Igotta go get a drink for the
bride.
Like, I'm sorry about that.
(10:28):
I'll be back in one second, comeback in like 10 minutes.
And so it's just like you justkind of figure out little ways
to move.
Every man's dream job.
SPEAKER_04 (10:36):
I wish you guys would have been around when I
was planning my sister'sbachelorette party because you
would have made my job.
Because like basically, like, Iwas you know what I mean?
Like, I would have loved to havea pool boy making us drinks and
making rounds of shots andbringing them to us in our
little cabana at the pool.
That would have been cute.
SPEAKER_00 (10:54):
Yeah, and then you always you always check with the
group too.
Like when you first walk in,kind of like what's your guys'
vibe?
Like, is some groups want tolike go crazy and drink a bunch
and like party and be wild.
Other groups are more just like,we kind of just want you guys
just like chill in thebackground.
If we need you, we'll ask.
And we can do that too.
So it's like you just matchwhatever that group is.
(11:14):
So it's like every party isdifferent, every person is
different.
But while you're on the clockfor the two or three hours that
you're there, you're locked inand you're working.
Like it's not like a fuck aroundthing, you know what I'm saying?
Like it's still an expensiveservice, and they still expect
you to be professional.
So it's like a line of likebeing professional but still fun
at the same time and making surelike everybody's having a good
time.
SPEAKER_02 (11:34):
So you're kind of like a bottle girl, but for a
bachelor at parties, prettymuch.
And they tip you.
SPEAKER_00 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, though they'll tip.
Uh sometimes they want us tostay for an hour.
We'll figure out something to goalong the lines with that.
But we do everything from likeplaying drinking games.
I've always I've already saidmaking them drinks, but also
too, we grill.
So like they love it when likethey they'll have like steaks or
like burgers or some shit likethat, and they're like, Can you
grill this for me?
SPEAKER_04 (11:59):
Um, and you're in your little swim shorts.
Oh, that's cute.
SPEAKER_00 (12:02):
I'm just vibing over there, just get a little drink.
And then, like, normally at thatpoint, like you kind of already
played your drinking games, likethey're kind of like wanting to
hang out at this point as far aslike doing something.
So I'll just be growing, thoseI'll come hang out.
SPEAKER_02 (12:15):
Are you allowed to drink with them?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (12:18):
You can drink with them for sure, which is fun.
I mean, you can't get too drunkbecause you got a job to do, but
what kind of job like that wouldyou not want to drink at?
You know, it'd just be boring ifyou couldn't drink.
All right.
SPEAKER_02 (12:29):
Would you say that a lot of the bachelorettes and
their friends are they from outof town?
Because I know that Scottsdale'sthe number two place for
bachelorette parties now.
Would you say it's mostly peoplefrom out of town?
SPEAKER_00 (12:38):
Mostly out of town.
I think out of all the partiesI've done this year, like 30,
40, there's maybe been like twowhere they're like actually from
here.
Sometimes we'll have like a mixof people that like they know
that live out here that willpull up, but generally it's from
people that are from out oftown.
Um, a lot of people from likesmaller cities, like you're
saying.
Um, so yeah, it all depends.
They come from everywhere.
(12:58):
Canada.
I love Canadian women.
SPEAKER_04 (13:01):
A lot of Canadians come here for their bachelor's.
Canadian people are so fun.
SPEAKER_00 (13:05):
Yeah, they have to be a good idea.
SPEAKER_04 (13:06):
Have you ever had a gay bachelor party?
SPEAKER_00 (13:08):
No, I haven't.
SPEAKER_04 (13:10):
Would you do it?
Uh they would love it.
SPEAKER_00 (13:14):
I feel like you would, yeah, it might that might
be a little bit of a I'll say itis that that's a little bit of a
stretch, but what I will say ismy friend who has done a gay
bachelor party like that saidthey tip the best out of
anybody.
Honestly, now that I think aboutthe money, I would do it.
Yeah, I would do it.
But because like he kind of toldme like like they were pretty
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respectful and whatever, andobviously, like some of one or
two of them did get like alittle touchy.
So, but you just like tell him,like, bro, you know, I don't I
don't go that way.
Yeah, I go right, I don't goleft.
So it's like you ain't gonna getvery far.
Yeah.
Then you're gonna piss me off.
SPEAKER_02 (13:48):
So do you date many Scottsdale girls?
How do you feel about Scottselgirls?
I know they have quite thereputation.
SPEAKER_00 (13:53):
I've had I moved down here four years ago.
SPEAKER_02 (13:56):
From where?
SPEAKER_00 (13:57):
Uh I'm from Vancouver, Washington,
originally, um, like right nextto Portland, Oregon.
So I moved here like duringCOVID.
So I've had one girlfriend downhere, or I've had had one
girlfriend.
It was like a year, year and ahalf.
Uh, it just didn't work out.
But um, so I wouldn't say that Ilike date like that a lot in
Scottsdale.
(14:17):
It's to me, it's like it's alittle bit different because
like everybody knows everybodydown here.
So it's like a lot of peopleknow the same people.
SPEAKER_04 (14:25):
Um, especially in the club scene.
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (14:29):
And it's like, like, I'm not trying to have a date a
girl where like my friends havebeen with or like multiple
people I know have been with.
Like, I'm cool out there.
So it's like I don't, it'sreally hard to date in like that
club scene right there.
But as far as like Arizona ingeneral, like bringing it out a
little bit from Scots to likeChandler and like Gilbert or
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Glendale, those, like, there'sthere's good girls everywhere.
So it's like you just gotta findgirls that probably aren't in
that scene.
And there's nothing wrong withthem being in that scene.
Like, it's cool.
I'm in that scene too, so it'slike I get it.
But as far as like takingsomebody like actually serious
and stuff, probably don't wantto bring a girl home to your mom
that's in the club four nights aweek.
SPEAKER_02 (15:07):
Do people hook up with people that work at the
same club that you're at?
Do you guys all kind of I don'tlike like the workers?
Like, but do you like have youever hooked up with a bottle
girl or a bartender?
SPEAKER_00 (15:18):
I I mean I don't know about what people really do
like too much, like on like thatfront.
Um just because I kind of try tostay out of people's business.
Like what what they do.
Um, I know all the bottle girlsare really cool though.
So they're always fun to talk toand hang out with, and they make
the job a lot more um enjoyable.
So, and like I do promo, so it'skind of like for them to like
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come to our table all the time,it's like not something they
really want to do because like alot of times people aren't
really like tipping or payinglike that.
But for me, they're all supercool.
They always hook me up.
I'm always taking care of reallygood.
So I fuck with all of them.
I think they're really cool.
But I mean, as far as like Idon't know, they're around
probably some of the richestpeople in the world, ball
players, um people spending bigmoney, 10k, 20k, 30k.
(16:02):
So I I imagine they couldprobably have fun.
But I feel like I have to askthem.
SPEAKER_04 (16:07):
I feel like a lot of girls who aren't in the club
scene would look at someone likeyou who is in the club scene as
a red flag.
Like I feel like club promotersautomatically are red flags to
women who aren't in the clubscene.
Do you find that that's an issuewith dating?
Do you have girls that that kindof prejudge?
SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
I mean, yes and no.
I feel like obviously it's a redflag because like my job is to
go up to girls 24-7 and bringthem into the club and drink
with them and hang out.
So it's like, yes, a red flag,but it's like, I mean, honestly,
like red flags are also a goodthing.
Like, no girl wants like somedude that just sits at home and
does nothing and talks tonobody, like that's a red flag
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too.
SPEAKER_04 (16:51):
Exactly.
That's even worse.
SPEAKER_00 (16:52):
At least you're a hustler.
Exactly.
Girls want like somebody thatworks hard, like girls want to
be around somebody that girlswant to be around with.
It's like if you're hanging outwith like a super hot girl or
super hot group of girls, likeall the girls will be looking at
you like because they're they'renot stupid, like they know
they're really attractive.
So they're like, what does hehave to offer?
Is it money?
Is he funny?
Is he the gay best friend?
Like, like who is that?
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Like, I want to get to know whohe is.
So it's like more of anintriguing thing, and then it's
like So what do you have tooffer?
Shit.
SPEAKER_04 (17:20):
How old are you?
SPEAKER_00 (17:21):
First of all, you uh 27.
SPEAKER_02 (17:22):
27, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (17:23):
27.
Man, what do I have to offer?
I don't know.
I'm a good time.
You're not the gay best friend.
We've already established.
I don't know.
I feel like I'm a good time, I'mfunny.
Whole conversation is reallygood.
I just have a good time, I don'ttake life like too serious, you
know.
SPEAKER_02 (17:39):
I try to have fun with what I do and what are you
are you looking to get marriedand have kids?
SPEAKER_00 (17:43):
Eventually.
SPEAKER_02 (17:44):
Eventually.
SPEAKER_00 (17:44):
Yeah, at one point for sure.
I think what's that what's yourlongest relationship?
Uh that's a good question.
How long were you together?
Four and a half years.
SPEAKER_02 (17:52):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (17:53):
Yeah, so I was 18 and then we broke up like
probably like three months afterI moved out here.
So that's a whole story too.
But yeah, so that so four and ahalf years and then also a year
and a half relationship.
So now that I think of it, I'vebeen in a relationship for a lot
of my fucking life.
SPEAKER_02 (18:09):
Do you like being in a relationship?
SPEAKER_00 (18:11):
I do.
You do?
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's cool.
I like having like one personthere, like somebody that's
around all the time, because Idon't do good when I'm like by
myself, you know, or like I justalways have to be like around
people.
So for me, it's like I like thatconstant person being there.
I like to have like somebodythat I can like trust and depend
on.
Uh this kind of sounds I don'tknow, shocking, maybe.
(18:33):
I don't know.
But I don't like drinking.
So all my job, not all my jobs,but two out of my three of my
jobs, it's around drinking, clubpromoting, being a pool boy for
bachelorette parties.
I drink because of theenvironment I'm in and it's what
we do.
And it it's fun, don't get mewrong, but if I had it my way,
if I could be out and drinkingand being single and wilding or
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whatever, or I could just be athome chilling, probably smoking
a little bit of weed, hangingout.
Like I would way rather havethat with somebody that like I
know, I love and I trust versuslike fucking off and drinking
and going off two hours of sleepevery other day.
SPEAKER_02 (19:08):
So you said two out of your three jobs, what's your
third job?
SPEAKER_00 (19:11):
Uh I manage uh teeth whitening in a spray tan place
in Disgusta.
SPEAKER_02 (19:16):
Are a hard worker.
I feel like that's not verycommon in the younger
generation, right?
SPEAKER_00 (19:21):
Yeah, we're I work seven days a week and early
nights, long wait, how do yousay that?
Early mornings, long nights.
Wow.
So I mean ambitious.
Generally Thursday throughSunday, I probably sleep in an
average of three to four hours.
And then I try to make up someMonday, Tuesday, Wednesday, but
I like I don't know, I don'treally sleep that much anyway.
So like even on my days off, Igo to bed at like 3 a.m.
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and I gotta be up at like likearound 8 39.
SPEAKER_04 (19:46):
So it's like in all of your jobs, you're surrounded
by women because it's like teethwhitening and tanning.
Oh my god, that's true.
Club promotions and bacheloretteparties.
So whoever dates you has to besuper, super secure.
SPEAKER_02 (19:58):
I was gonna say, it's gonna take a very
confident, strong, secure womanto date you.
Because I know a lot of womenwould be like, hell no, you are
always around pretty women.
SPEAKER_04 (20:08):
No, also, then how are you single?
Because if you're around, do youever hit, do you ever, I guess I
shouldn't say hit on, do youever approach women that you
meet at work?
Or have you tried?
SPEAKER_00 (20:18):
Uh like with the teeth whitening?
SPEAKER_04 (20:20):
And and any of the jobs.
I guess not the bacheloretteparties, probably, unless you
know they're single.
SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
No, definitely, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, all the when I mean whenI'm working, like I I gotta go
up to like the girls, you know?
As far like whether it's like agroup of like five girls that
are friends, or whether it'slike a group of like 15 girls,
bachelorette party, just go upto them.
And honestly, it's super easy.
It's not it's not hard at all.
Everybody's like scared to getrejected, whatever.
Like, I get excited for likewhen I go up to a group, I'm
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like, yeah, I just like to getmy first no out of the way.
Like I'm going up there and I'mlike, I'm literally walking up
to group and I'm like, pleasetell me no, please be a bitch,
please be rude.
Just the first one because onceyou get the first one out of the
way, then you're like all thenerves are gone, you're like,
fuck this shit.
Good thinking.
And I'm like, then I realizeonce I get my first no out the
way, then I got like hellapeople or hella girls that I'm
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like I'm bringing in and talkingto.
But if it's a night where likeit's a little bit dead and like
there's not that many groups,and it's like 11 and then and I
don't go really up to anybodyand get that like first no, like
I'll find myself like nottalking to as many girls or
whatever.
So it's like really I thinkrejection is a really good
thing.
Yeah, it's something thateverybody needs to get.
And I think I learned that whenI was doing door-to-door sales,
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because you get the door slammedin your face, all that, that
like rejection is a good thing.
Like, obviously, I'm like, Iwant them to come with me to
hang out because if I'm going upto them, either A it's a big
group and they're gonna be a lotof money, or B, they're probably
pretty good looking.
So I'm like, don't tell me now.
But uh yeah, so have you evercheated?
No.
SPEAKER_02 (21:45):
No, have you ever walked out mid-date?
SPEAKER_00 (21:48):
I have not either all my dates have gone good.
Really?
Yeah, I was just gonna ask you.
I haven't physically cheated.
I've I I forgot the words.
I don't know.
Yeah, that word.
I was like, that's a made-upword.
I don't even know what thatmeans.
SPEAKER_02 (22:01):
You know, at least you admit it.
SPEAKER_00 (22:03):
Yeah, I'd admit that.
Like when I was in like my firstrelationship, I was like dancing
on a girl at a party.
So I got in trouble for thatone, obviously.
And then the other one, um, Iwas I texted some girl something
that I I didn't mean it the wayit sounded and looked, but like
either or like A, I shouldn'thave even texted her back, B
what I said, I probablyshouldn't have said that one.
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But the way it came acrosswasn't the way.
But yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (22:27):
So you said it's a whole another story how you
ended things with your ex iswhat happened there?
Why did you break things offwith your four and a half
relationship?
SPEAKER_00 (22:36):
Um it was so like during COVID, obviously
everything was different.
It was like trapped in thehouse.
Um things were going good, butthen I just kind of got this.
I always had this thing in theback of my head where like I
wanted to like to be single andkind of do that thing, you know
what I'm saying?
Um I never went, I graduatedfrom Arizona State, but I went
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online.
So I never like went to like afour-year college and like all
that stuff, like party likethat.
So as I kind of got older, itjust kind of like kept like I
don't know the right word, keptitching at me or whatever you
want to call it.
So it just kind of like got to apoint where I was like, ah fuck.
And then my roommate at thetime, he was like, yo, you
trying to move to Arizona?
Like there's this like jobopportunity out there.
(23:19):
And at that point, I was justkind of ready to get out of my
my environment I was in.
So I just felt like I felt likelife was too easy because I
graduated um high school, andthen two years later I was
coaching football at my old highschool, and then I was also
going to school to be a schoolteacher.
Um in Washington, they makereally good money being a school
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teacher.
And I'd have like three monthsoff out of the year, and I was
already set with the coachingand the other stuff I was doing
on the side.
So I was like, I had agirlfriend, and that was really
great.
And uh, so I just felt like Ihad everything going, but I was
like, damn, this shit's tooeasy.
Like, I need a challenge, I needsomething to like wake me up in
the morning, you know what I'msaying?
And then when my roommatesstarted talking about it, and I
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kind of was tired of Washington,just raining all the time,
nothing to do, it's great, it'sboring, people suck.
So it's just like get me out ofhere.
And so when I had a chance toget out of here, I moved here, I
didn't even visit here.
Like I'd never been here beforeI moved here.
I'd only been to three statesbefore I moved here.
So that's another thing.
I didn't travel and see theworld like that.
So then kind of just was like,okay, kind of told my ex like,
(24:23):
hey, I'm gonna move there.
I'm gonna see if I like it.
For if I like it for a year,like you'll come down here with
me.
But I don't want to move youdown here and cause I don't even
know if I like it.
But at the same time, it'sfucked up because it's like, why
wouldn't you like have aconversation about it first of
all with somebody that you lovelike that?
About like, what do you thinkabout this?
Is it is that okay?
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And also it's fucked up to belike not giving her an option to
come with me at the start, beinglike, hey, this is what you're
gonna do in a year.
If I like it, you're gonna comedown.
So kind of didn't handle it thebest, I would say.
SPEAKER_04 (24:54):
It's hard when you're young, I feel like, too,
because you don't know what youdon't know.
You know what I mean?
When when you're that age.
Yeah.
And like you said, like youdidn't get a chance to really be
single as an adult.
And if you don't, I feel likethat happens with a lot of
people.
They either like jump intomarriage or a serious
relationship when they're superyoung, and then they don't get a
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chance to be single.
I think.
SPEAKER_02 (25:17):
Everyone needs to be single, I really do.
I do too.
So you have no regrets later onin life.
You don't feel the need at 40 togo out and party and be single,
you know?
SPEAKER_00 (25:24):
I feel that, but I mean, I feel like most people
when they look back on it, likethey kind of not regret their
decision, but kind of be like,it wasn't all I thought it was
gonna be.
SPEAKER_02 (25:33):
Do you regret your decision?
SPEAKER_00 (25:35):
I don't know if I I can say I regret it because
everything that I've done downhere, everything I have down
here is insane.
Um but would I say if I did goback and do it all over again, I
would definitely be hesitantabout it.
Because it wasn't just l uhmoving away from her and leaving
her.
(25:55):
It also like my whole family'sdown there, like I'm the only
person here.
So that's a lot more to do thanlike just her.
But I feel like it would havebeen definitely cooler to marry
your high school sweetheart thanit would be to like just find
some random girl when they're 30and just like whatever, you know
what I'm saying?
So it's like, yeah, I think itall depends on the girl in the
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situation.
SPEAKER_02 (26:16):
But have you been on any crazy dates here?
SPEAKER_00 (26:19):
I don't really go on dates a lot, to be honest.
SPEAKER_02 (26:21):
How do you meet people?
SPEAKER_00 (26:23):
Work.
SPEAKER_02 (26:24):
I mean, are you on the apps?
SPEAKER_00 (26:25):
Uh a little bit, but I don't really like need the
apps.
So it's like I'm not really geton them.
Like, I'll go on him like everyonce, like on a Monday or
Tuesday, and swipe a little bitand then like kind of get a
match and be like, okay, that'scool.
A little validation, but I'm notI'm not really gonna be out
there measured like crazy, youknow.
SPEAKER_02 (26:43):
So what's your ideal type?
SPEAKER_00 (26:45):
Uh I would say like in between five foot to like
five foot three, blonde hair.
Yeah, blue eyes.
Yeah, like can tell they workout, like go to the gym, like
got some ass, got some tittiesfor sure.
Can't be like flat.
So that's how I'm gonna do it.
That's like cool for a night,whatever, I guess.
But like if I'm gonna marry you,like, or like wanna date you,
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like I'm very, very, very, very,very picky and with who like I
date, whatever.
So like I try to wait for likethe perfect person, because this
is my thing, like the girl thatI date, like obviously
personality, whatever, likewe're gonna get to that at some
point.
We're talking just straightlooks here.
Like when I walk into like a baror a club or a restaurant, like
if everybody's not turning theirhead to look at my girl, like,
(27:28):
god damn, who the fuck is that?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
If she's not like that, thenit's like I'm I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (27:34):
Are you okay with the fake body?
SPEAKER_00 (27:35):
Yeah, I'm cool with that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (27:37):
If it's a fake butt and fake boobs, yeah, yeah,
that's cool for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (27:41):
I mean, fake butt is kind of funny.
A lot of times, you know, a lotof times they don't look good.
I'm gonna be honest.
But if it looks good, hell yeah.
It's about what it looks like.
I mean, it's definitely a littlebit different, like you know
feeling it, touching whatever,but which is interesting, but
it's everything cool to me.
SPEAKER_02 (27:56):
What are your deal breakers?
SPEAKER_00 (27:58):
Ooh, what are my deal breakers?
Besides flat tits.
I don't the you gotta treat yourfamily good, the people you're
around.
I don't like people that arebitchy or like like rude or like
like too much, or like even likesomething as like small as like
being rude to like a host orlike a server at a restaurant.
(28:21):
Like, don't be a bitch, likethey're working hard, they're
not doing it on purpose, youknow.
So like those things.
Um I feel like it's not acomplete deal breaker, but like
coming from a good family, agood background, is very, very,
very important because thatcould cause a lot of problems
later down the road.
Uh I w I wouldn't date a girlthat's on OnlyFans ever.
(28:45):
Never hell on the next one.
SPEAKER_02 (28:46):
Even if it's just her and she doesn't bring other
partners in.
SPEAKER_00 (28:49):
Nope.
Okay.
I can't do it.
I'm not gonna have my wife'stitties on the internet slanging
those things like it's crack.
unknown (28:54):
Like what?
SPEAKER_00 (28:55):
Not doing that.
Like I don't need 50 differentpeople having pictures of your
body.
Like I don't like that.
Um I'd I wouldn't date um anon-religious girl.
I wouldn't do a date an atheistperson.
SPEAKER_02 (29:08):
Uh are you religious?
What religion?
SPEAKER_00 (29:10):
Uh Christian.
SPEAKER_02 (29:11):
Okay, gotcha.
SPEAKER_00 (29:12):
Yeah.
I don't really go to church orwhatever, but I do read the
Bible from time to time.
And I I I would kind of like togo to church, but I kind of feel
like um I don't really when itcomes to a relationship with
God, I don't really need likesome other person to preach to
me about like God, basically.
I feel like you could read theBible and pray and figure it out
(29:35):
on your own that way versussomebody's interpretation of
them.
Cause it's like yourinterpretation of the Bible is
like your own and like that'skinda like God's word.
So it's like you shouldn't havesomebody like coming out coming
at it from their perspective.
You should have your ownperspective.
With now do I think church isgreat and it's a good thing for
people?
Hell yeah.
And I think ev a lot of peopleshould go to church, but just
(29:55):
for me personally.
SPEAKER_04 (29:56):
Did you grow up going to church?
SPEAKER_00 (29:58):
Um, we would go from time to time.
Definitely like on likeobviously holidays like Easter
and stuff like that, we wouldgo.
My grandma, she's really biginto her faith, and so whenever
we go, it'd always be with her.
But where I lived in Vancouver,they either lived like in Long
Beach, Washington, which waslike three hours away, or even
when they moved, they're stilllike an hour away or like an
(30:20):
hour and a half away.
So we try to meet in the middle,like 45 minutes.
Um so we would go to church withthem from time to time.
But me and my brother were alsothree sport athletes, so Sundays
a lot of times we're atbasketball tournaments, I would
have football practice, umbaseball.
So a lot of times they're realbusy.
SPEAKER_04 (30:37):
But are you still into sports?
SPEAKER_00 (30:39):
Not as much to be not really.
SPEAKER_04 (30:41):
So you don't care if your girl is into sports or not
into sports.
SPEAKER_00 (30:44):
I think it's cool if she is, but I don't care if she
is or not, to be honest.
I used to be really big intosports.
I used to watch like all likeNFL all the time, college
football, basketball, like allthat.
But now over time, the only teamI care about and an is the
Oregon Ducks.
I like college football.
That's my favorite sport.
And I've been an Oregon Ducksfan since I was like two or
three.
So like that's the one likesporting event where I'm like,
(31:06):
all right, I don't give a fuckabout anybody.
Don't bother me.
I'm gonna watch this shit.
And then once it's over, I'mout.
Like I was in a UFC for a littlebit, but now it sucks.
And NBA's not as fun either.
So are you ready for it?
SPEAKER_04 (31:19):
I'm ready for it.
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All right, we have a listenerquestion.
My boyfriend and I have beendating for seven months now, and
I just farted while half asleep.
I am 100% sure he heard it.
(31:41):
We've always made jokes aboutwhen we will get to that stage
of the relationship.
So I kind of know his view onthis, and I'm sure we both don't
care that much, but I'm stillmortified about these topics.
At what point in a relationshiprelationship is it acceptable to
(32:02):
fart freely and who goes first?
SPEAKER_02 (32:05):
You know what's funny is your sister.
When I first met your sister,she said something that has
stuck with me to this day.
It's science.
She's we were talking aboutfarting or something, and she's
like, it's science, it'snatural, and it's true.
Like, and after seven months, ifhe's turned off by her farting
after being with her for sevenmonths, she he probably probably
doesn't want to marry him.
Yeah.
You know?
What do you guys think I thinkit's normal?
SPEAKER_04 (32:25):
No, I agree.
That's it's kind of like when wewere talking about like the
gynecologist, like the body'sthe body, and it's like your
body is gonna do what it does.
SPEAKER_02 (32:34):
How would you feel if you'll go after seven months
farted in front of you and I?
SPEAKER_00 (32:37):
I mean, that's like normal.
Because after like seven months,like, hey, she's probably stayed
over at your house for likeweeks at a time.
Like you basically livetogether.
So it's like at a certain point,like when if you're in like high
school and you're like datingsomebody, she does like, yeah,
we're gonna make fun, and you'dprobably break up.
But like when you get older andlike you like you said, like
probably break up in highschool.
SPEAKER_04 (32:57):
And then it's the rumor.
Then you're known as the girlwho got broken up when you
farted in your sleep.
Oh, because that's it.
Totally happened to me.
Like that would totally havehappened.
It didn't happen to me, but thatwould be just that would be
something.
I I remember once, like, okay,so when I was with my ex, I
remember once I farted in mysleep and it was so loud it it
(33:17):
won, I it woke me up.
And and so I like kind of likerolled over and pretended like I
was still sleeping.
And he was he was awake, he waslike, I heard that.
That was like a cringe! No, Iwas so embarrassed.
SPEAKER_02 (33:30):
That is cringe.
Yeah, but we are gonna discussthese interesting and true
dating facts.
Did you know that people decideif they're attracted to someone
within the first three secondsof meeting them?
I think that makes sense.
Oh, yeah.
Like I can realize right away inseconds if I'll be interested or
not.
Yeah.
Your voice changes when talkingto someone you're attracted to.
(33:51):
Studies show both men and womenlower their tone.
Do you lower it?
Interesting.
Bye, baby.
SPEAKER_04 (33:57):
That much, not that much.
It's like, it's like, it's likea tone that's lowered.
It's lowered, probably so it'snot like noticeable to the naked
ear, but it's noticeable in likea scientific to a scientific
study, like if you're studyingthe tone of voice.
(34:17):
Funny.
SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
Smell matters more than looks.
Natural scent, not perfume,often plays a huge role in
romantic chemistry.
SPEAKER_04 (34:24):
Yeah, pheromones.
SPEAKER_02 (34:27):
Eye contact can make people fall for each other
faster.
Staring into someone's eyes forjust four minutes can create
feelings of connection.
I always thought that was kindof creepy though, for you like
on a first date, and he's justlike staring at you and like,
let's just look at each otherfor a moment.
Have you ever had that?
SPEAKER_00 (34:44):
I mean, I'm gonna look you in the eyes when I talk
to you for sure, but like I'mnot gonna be like hey, let's
stare each other in the eye.
SPEAKER_04 (34:48):
Like, yeah, not staring, but I do think it's
weird when someone won't look atyour face.
No, they won't look at you, likethey won't make eye contact with
you when they're talking aboutit.
That's weird.
That's odd.
You know, and I think that's it.
SPEAKER_00 (34:58):
That's a confidence thing, though.
Like if you believe in whatyou're saying, you could lose
some of the eyes and tell themwhat it is.
SPEAKER_02 (35:02):
Yeah, for sure.
Arguing isn't always bad.
Couples who argue effectivelyare more likely to stay together
than those who avoid conflictentirely.
That's true, becausecommunication, right?
More than 40% of relationshipsnow begin online, and that
number keeps climbing.
That's interesting.
But where else do people meet,you know?
But I will say, we were at thepolo event this weekend, and all
the younger, like early20-year-olds, they're none of
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them are on the apps.
Like they're kind of over theapps.
They and you it sounds like youkind of are too, but then I
guess with your job you don'tneed to be on.
SPEAKER_00 (35:31):
Right.
But um the young boys too, likethey like I don't know, they're
different for sure.
They like to just play videogames, stay inside.
Like, I heard the young boys arereally struggling to find girls
and stuff like that because ofthat.
Because like COVID basicallythey're kind of trained them to
stay inside, and then now allthey do is play video games.
And like they don't they onlyhave like an interest in going
(35:53):
up to girls and stuff like that.
Yeah, I heard some, I don'tknow.
We got somebody look this up.
I heard something like peoplelike 25 years, years old to like
18-year-old, like 40% orsomething like that are virgins,
and then like another like 50%have never actually approached a
girl before.
I don't know, you'd have to golook that up and fact check
that.
But yeah, I heard that and I waslike, damn, it sucks to be
(36:14):
young.
SPEAKER_02 (36:16):
And one last one, this is obviously expected.
Men are more likely to swiperight than women, but women are
more selective, leading to moremeaning meaningful matches.
I feel like a lot of guys justaccept, accept, accept, right?
SPEAKER_04 (36:27):
Probably women are a little more selective.
I think that apps have becomejust more like hookup than
actually like people don'treally take them seriously.
SPEAKER_02 (36:35):
But what about like do people ever do match.com
still in eHarmony?
Are those more like the seriousfor serious-minded individuals?
SPEAKER_04 (36:45):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, I think they're stillaround.
SPEAKER_00 (36:48):
Yeah, I feel like people use like the dating apps,
like girls, for example.
Depends what girl you are.
Like, some girls do use themlike to be serious and try to
find people, but a lot of timesthey just put their Instagram in
their bio.
Or like not their bio, but theirprofile and try to get a
follower that way.
Or like a lot of times, like alot of girls I talk to about it,
like they just get like so likeoverwhelmed because like every
person they swipe on, it's amatch, and they're getting like
(37:10):
all these different messagesfrom people, and some are weird,
some are like cool, and thenlike you'll get a message from
somebody, and then they'll belike, somebody you want to talk
to you, message them back, andlike maybe they don't mess you
back for a couple hours, andthen now that like conversation
is like 20 people down, and sothey're like not even gonna see
it.
SPEAKER_02 (37:24):
So it's kind of like now it's time for the celebrity
cup where we marinate in thejuices of the celebrities.
So, did you see we can no longercall him Prince Andrew?
He's been stripped of his royaltitles.
It's just Andrew now.
Isn't that crazy?
Just Andrew.
It's just Andrew, yeah.
But what's funny is so myTikTok, I talk a lot about Megan
Markle, and people, all of myhaters are constantly saying,
(37:46):
You need to talk about Andrew.
He's terrible, he's worse thanMegan.
Talk about Andrew.
But my dad used to work withPrince Andrew, or sorry, Andrew.
And my dad is was always tellingme how much of a condescending,
narcissistic, derogatory prickhe was.
The first time my dad metAndrew, Andrew looked at him and
said, Who the fuck are you?
Like, how do you talk to agovernment official like that?
(38:07):
So my dad was always like, He'sa freaking prick.
So I'm like, I'm not gonna watchit.
SPEAKER_04 (38:10):
But it was he was stripped because of the Epstein
stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (38:14):
But I don't know why it took so long for them to
strip his titles after thatwhole scandal.
SPEAKER_04 (38:18):
I know.
Did well did they have to provethat?
Was it was it questionable, likewhether he was involved or not?
SPEAKER_02 (38:24):
I had pictures of him with her with that one girl,
Virginia, and it's just crazyhow he's like, No, that was
photoshopped.
And then he did this interviewto prove his innocence, but it
totally backfired and made himlook more guilty because I guess
she had said that they weredancing in a club and he was
sweating profusely, and how itwas so gross because he was just
sweating so much.
(38:44):
And in the interview, he's like,She was wrong.
This proves that she's lyingbecause I have a condition, a
medical condition where I neversweat.
Like, what?
That was if like anywho.
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SPEAKER_00 (39:08):
Have you ever accidentally sent a sex to the
wrong person?
You know, I don't really talk onmy phone like that.
Because no.
SPEAKER_04 (39:18):
You don't know?
SPEAKER_00 (39:19):
No, I don't think so.
SPEAKER_04 (39:21):
Are you a texter or a talker or neither?
SPEAKER_00 (39:25):
I'm an in-person type of person.
If I see you in person, thenyeah, I'm gonna go out and talk
to you, whatever.
But if you look at my phone,like I don't text people, I
don't really message people,like DM them like that.
I just I don't like it, to behonest.
Because like you it's hard tocatch a vibe because like I'm a
like sarcastic person and I saya lot of like wild funny things.
So it's like if I'm not inperson talking to you, like
(39:47):
you're not really gonna get whatI'm saying, or like my kind of
humor, like with it, you know.
So a lot of times it's easierjust for me to just be in person
and then like I'm not trying towait for you to respond and
carry a conversation I don'tcare about, or it's just too
much.
SPEAKER_04 (40:00):
Is that difficult with dating?
Because a lot of women I feellike need to be or they feel
like they need to be in constantcommunication.
Yeah.
They they want to be liketalking all the time.
SPEAKER_00 (40:09):
I hate that shit actually.
Yeah, let me get let me talkabout that real quick.
Yeah.
Like, like, don't get me wrong,I I will text you like
throughout the day, likewhatever, but like if we just go
from hanging out for like twoweeks straight, and then you get
home, and then I have an hour bymyself, and then I get a phone
call from you, and it's not likean emergency or like like some.
(40:30):
I'm like, bro, I literally justspent however many hours with
you.
Like, can I get an hour?
Like, fuck.
You know, I just gotta reset alittle bit.
I mean, I think it's cool thatlike she wants to obviously be
in constant communication andtalking, but like sometimes it's
like you gotta chill, littlebaby, you know.
Like, fuck.
SPEAKER_02 (40:46):
So, what line do you use?
If you see a girl that isbeautiful and you want to
approach her, yeah, what howwhat do you say?
SPEAKER_00 (40:52):
Um, I normally comment them like on their
outfit or something along thoselines, to be honest.
Because it's like they hearlike, oh, you're so pretty, or
like you're so hot, I had to goup to you.
Like, what I like, you hear that90 different times, so then it's
kind of like in one ear out theother.
But if I like comment you onlike, I don't know, if you got
like a cool bag or like likethose pants right there, like
(41:15):
those are flowy, cool.
Like, I'll I'll commentsomething on that, you know?
SPEAKER_04 (41:18):
Those are flowy.
Well that would that work foryou?
SPEAKER_00 (41:21):
I wouldn't say flowy, cause I think of
something a lot better,obviously.
But that's a laugh.
I'm just saying, like, forexample, yeah.
For like an example, I wouldjust like comment on something
on their outfit or somethinglike that.
So that's generally what like Ikind of try to do.
I mean, sometimes you can bebasic and be like, oh, what's
up?
Like, my name's Hagan, like,what's your name?
Like, that's another one.
SPEAKER_04 (41:39):
So Yeah, like that guy who told me I looked like a
picnic table on Saturday, andthen he called me and then he
called me charcuterie.
And I was like, I've never beencalled a picnic table or
charcuterie before, but thankyou, sir.
Wow, that's it.
SPEAKER_00 (41:51):
I mean, you haven't stopped thinking about that
since charcuterie.
How'd that one go?
SPEAKER_04 (41:56):
I think we were on different levels of drunkness.
That was actually the onlyexchange we had got to.
I mean, that probably wouldn'thave worked, but that's yelled
it at me like as I was walkingaway.
It was like one of thosesituations.
Charcuterie.
SPEAKER_00 (42:09):
I think it I think less is more when you go up to
hit on a girl that you don'tgotta say nothing crazy.
Come fucking charcuterie, youknow?
Like just like be like chill.
And I just feel like the firstlike 20, 30 seconds of the
conversation is the mostimportant part because that's
where like which it shouldn't,because your first time meeting
the person, like you could askthem a million different
questions, you know nothingabout them, you don't even know
their name, probably at thispoint.
(42:31):
But it's like that 20, 30seconds, like if the
conversation doesn't like flowreally good, it's probably not
gonna work out great.
So like you gotta make sure,like, you're on point, 20, 30
seconds, try to catch theirvibes, see what they're on.
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Oh my god, I just totally gotcatfished.
SPEAKER_03 (43:04):
He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.
So I found out the guy that I'vebeen dating is married with
kids.
His wife just reached out to me.
Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.
He looks absolutely nothing likehis picture.
So I found out the guy that I'vebeen dating is married with
kids.
His wife just reached out to me.
SPEAKER_02 (00:15):
Welcome to the meat market.
The single scene is aslaughterhouse, and we are here
to devour it.
We are your hosts.
I'm Lindsay.
I'm Jess.
And today's sizzling single isHayden.
Welcome.
SPEAKER_00 (00:24):
Thanks for having me, guys.
SPEAKER_02 (00:25):
So you are a bachelorette party host in Old
Town Scottsdale.
Oh, the stories you must have.
Are women as scandalous as wehear?
SPEAKER_00 (00:35):
Uh I would say no.
No.
That's a little bit more playedout than what you hear, because
you only hear the bad.
You never really hear the good.
You know what I'm saying?
So I've been around a lot ofparties, and I'm not gonna say
they don't get a little bitcrazy, but for the most part, it
there's a lot of times it's morechill.
SPEAKER_02 (00:52):
Um, but definitely working at the clubs too, you
see a lot of stuff go down thatso has your view on women
changed since working with a lotof bachelorette parties?
Because we have friends that weare friends with some of the
guys from Thunder from DownUnder, and they have a lot of
bachelorette parties coming in,and they see these bachelorettes
cheat on their fiancees who'swho they're gonna marry.
(01:13):
And so they their view of womenis just like in the weeds.
They're like, we do not trustwomen.
Do you have you seen stuff likethat that's kind of altered your
perception of women?
SPEAKER_00 (01:22):
Not altered it, but just kind of makes you a lot
more aware and a lot more likenot naive, you know?
It's just like you put somebodyin an environment where there's
alcohol and people having funand maybe you don't have the
best influences, and a lot ofpeople aren't strong enough to
make their own decisions, Iwould say.
So whatever their environment,whatever people around them are
influencing them to do, they'regonna do that.
They probably go home if you'relike a piece of shit, you know,
(01:44):
as you should.
But I mean, I would say it'smore environmentally, so it's
just like being smart about it.
Like for me, unfortunately, mywife, she's gonna have a
bachelorette party, but it'sgonna be a joint bachelorette
party.
So it'll be like BachelorBachelorette party.
I see those are super cool.
Um, or another smart thing to dois like bring like your
significant others, like mom orsister or something like that on
(02:07):
the trip.
They gotta die on your ass.
Yeah, so that's like thesmartest things I would say to
do.
So it's just like just moving alittle bit different and
realizing that like times aredifferent.
SPEAKER_02 (02:17):
And that's actually smart.
My mom's gonna join.
She really wants to go.
SPEAKER_00 (02:22):
She would love to be there.
Be the spy.
Right.
And for me, a lot of times, likethe moms are super fun too.
Like when I do like thebachelorette parties, like
they're always like high energy,like making sure everybody's
good.
It's like another helping hand,too, which you don't really
need, but I think sometimes it'sfun to have moms.
SPEAKER_04 (02:36):
My cousin recently had a bachelorette party, and
she invited her mom and then mymom, also, who her aunt or
whatever.
Um, and they had a like a greattime.
Yeah, and my sister-in-lawinvited her mom, and I think my
mom on hers year that was like12 years ago, I think that my
brother and her got married, butit like it made it fun.
(02:58):
It's fun to have moms so long.
SPEAKER_02 (02:59):
I think mom's gonna be the craziest, the wildest.
SPEAKER_00 (03:02):
Definitely.
They bring the party for sure.
But it's kind of like a coolbonding experience, I guess.
I mean, I'm haven't beenobviously in a bachelorette
party, so I don't really know.
But I can imagine if you bringlike your mom or like your
fiance's mom, like it's a timeto get closer, get to know each
other, and see yourselves inlike a different light.
So I feel like it's a good thingoverall, because I mean family's
the most important, so you mayas well have family around.
SPEAKER_02 (03:23):
What's the craziest thing you've seen out and about
in Old Town?
The craziest thing I've seen.
SPEAKER_00 (03:28):
Man.
I've seen a lot, but I would sayone story that I have is when I
was promoting, um I didn't knowshe was a bride at the time
because brides were white,right?
And they wear normally somethingthat says the bride or something
like that.
She was in like pink.
So like we were like hangingout, whatever.
Um, she just kind of came up tome, and then she started kissing
(03:49):
me in the club.
Or I guess yeah, I guess Istarted kissing her, but same
thing, either or.
But anyway, so yeah, so I haveno clue, like, she's like the
bride at this point.
So now it's like like 1.30 inthe morning, she finally like
tells me she's the bride.
And it's like, oh shit.
Okay, but I was like, I mean,we're kinda already this far, so
it's like at this point, like,what am I gonna do?
(04:10):
Like, it's not my problem, notmy fault.
And like, if it wasn't me, she'sgonna cheat with somebody else
too.
So it's like, I'm already likein the mix right there.
But I was like, I'm not gonna doanything crazy.
The clubs are about to close.
So then like 15, 20 minutes goesby, and it's like 10 minutes
before the clubs close.
And she's like, let's gooutside.
And I'm thinking, like, okay,like maybe like her group went
out there, she's like trying tofind her friend.
(04:30):
So I'm like, okay, cool, I gotyou.
So we go outside, and then shelike looks around, she's like,
Oh fuck.
And I was like, what?
Like he has to go outside.
We're outside, like, what's theproblem?
She goes, There's people outhere, and I go, Yeah, no shit.
The club's gonna close in 10minutes.
Like, obviously, there's people,it's old town, there's 20
different clubs around here.
And I was like, like, what's theproblem?
(04:51):
She goes, I want you, uh, she'slike, I want you to fuck me
behind the club.
And I was like, What?
You're getting married in like10, 20 days.
SPEAKER_04 (05:00):
Scandalous, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:01):
And I was like, You're fucking wild for that
one.
SPEAKER_04 (05:04):
Do you know what she told her fiance?
SPEAKER_00 (05:06):
No clue, I don't even know her name.
So I don't know what she toldhim.
Probably not a damn thing.
SPEAKER_04 (05:14):
Sure not.
That would be my thing.
Is like, what would you say?
How would you go back home andjust like be normal and get
married?
SPEAKER_02 (05:22):
Oh, I'm sure she didn't say anything, right?
But the stories I hear, itsounds like women are worse than
men, right?
Or just as bad.
SPEAKER_00 (05:29):
Or just as bad.
I think everybody sucks equally,to be honest.
SPEAKER_02 (05:34):
My question is, why would you get married if you're
still doing that?
She clearly wants to do that,right?
Make out with random guys.
So why would you get married?
SPEAKER_04 (05:41):
Maybe her fiance is also cheating on her.
Maybe they're just in a toxicrelationship and they just cheat
on each other.
SPEAKER_00 (05:48):
I feel like it's like I don't know.
This is my thing, is like Irealize like girls when they get
married, a lot of times the guyis like a lot less look good
looking than them.
A lot of times they're marryinglike uglier people.
I feel like it's more like asecurity thing to where they're
like, oh, he's not thatattractive, he won't cheat on
me.
Like, not a bunch of girls aregonna go hit on him, or he's
gonna feel like he's gotsomebody that's way out of his
(06:10):
league, so he's not gonna doanything like to jeopardize
that.
And then when a girl goes outand has fun and starts getting a
little bit of attention andstarts being around some better
looking people, some people thathave money, things change real
quick, and they'll sacrifice amoment of fun for like a
lifetime, you know what I'msaying?
SPEAKER_02 (06:25):
Or I wonder if she was like marrying an older guy
for his money and he's old andnot so attractive, and then
she's out with these young.
SPEAKER_04 (06:33):
Maybe, maybe.
That's funny.
I remember my sister'sbachelorette party here and God,
it was like in like 2015.
Um, and everybody came here fromthe Midwest.
She lived here also at thattime.
Um, and so I planned it and wewent to one of the clubs.
You remember Mint?
Oh, yeah.
So we had a table at Mint in2015, and I just remember like
(06:55):
all the girls were so smalltown.
It wasn't even on anybody'sradar to be like that way in the
club because they it was likethe first time they'd ever ex
even experienced a club becausethey were all coming from such a
small town.
But now the city I feel like haschanged so much that it's this
(07:16):
destination place for bachelorand bachelorette parties.
Like the expectations havechanged.
Yeah.
Because the bachelor party thatwe met that one weekend,
remember?
They were all married, or atleast remember the Bradley
Cooper looking guy, yeah.
Was married and how scandaloushe was.
SPEAKER_02 (07:32):
How scandal he was hitting on everyone like
freaking had boobs.
He really was.
And then didn't you went on adate with one of the guys and
then you found out that he wasmarried, right?
SPEAKER_04 (07:41):
No, I don't know.
I I don't know that he wasmarried.
But you just it's just I kind ofmaybe.
Oh my god.
There were some, there were someyeah, there were some
questionable things.
He may, he may have beenmarried.
SPEAKER_02 (07:56):
They're probably like, oh, we're in a different
country now.
It doesn't count.
But now that I think about it,we know someone, a mutual
friend.
I'm not gonna name their names,but during her first marriage,
her bachelorette party in Vegas,she cheated.
She had sex with a guy in Vegasand came back, married the guy,
and never told him, never toldanyone.
And she told me, and I was like,dang, how could why would you
(08:17):
Did you go on the Bacheloretteparty?
I didn't.
I met her right after.
Oh, you did?
Do I know who I do?
I'm trying to think who it is.
But anyway, but that's yeah,it's crazy how many women do
that.
Like on the Bachelorette party.
I know.
SPEAKER_00 (08:30):
I don't feel so guilty.
I don't that's the thing that Idon't get.
Like when like BachelorBachelorette parties come,
they're like, oh, it's my lasttime to have fun, it's my last
time for freedom.
I'm like, when the fuck are yourlast time for fun or freedom was
when you first started datingthe person?
Right.
Like, fuck you mean like whenyou put a ring on somebody, like
the next day it doesn't changeanything.
It's so true.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, all it is is basically afinancial agreement and like a
(08:53):
fucking shiny little object thatyou have on your finger.
So it's like nothing changedfrom the when you guys first
started dating until now, butpeople just get these
expectations, they just get alittle they want to have fun,
let them, you know?
As long as it doesn't happen tome.
Because my girl cheats on me,hell, though.
Everybody else.
SPEAKER_02 (09:11):
So do you get hit on a lot when you're out and about
during these parties?
SPEAKER_00 (09:15):
Um I would say yeah, because it's just like you and
somebody else.
Like when you're like doing thepool boys like you don't really
get hit on, but like who elseare they gonna talk to?
Who else are they gonna giveyour attention to?
You know what I'm saying?
And then when we come, like wewear like swim shorts, like it's
funny.
A lot of girls will be like, oh,we're expecting you to pull up
in like stripper outfits or likespeedos or some shit.
I'm like, we're like threelevels above that.
(09:35):
Not like too far above astripper, but pretty far.
You know, close enough.
So it's like, I mean, theenvironment's good, everybody
gets drinking, but when you'rearound like 10, 15 girls like
that, the whole point of the jobtoo, like, out of everything, is
to make sure the bride is havingthe best time, making sure she's
taken care of, making sure she'shaving fun with all her groups.
Like, that's the main focus.
So, like, when you're workingthere, like, yeah, like people
(09:57):
do try to hit on you or do this,that third, but it's just like
you just gotta keep the mainthing the main thing, which is
making sure the bride is havinga good time, making sure the
group feels all included.
SPEAKER_02 (10:05):
So, how do you do that?
SPEAKER_00 (10:07):
Uh you give two seconds of your attention here,
two seconds of your attentionthere, go check on the bride,
make sure she's okay, ask themif they need anything.
If you're ever in like a stickysituation where you're like,
damn, I might not get introuble, but like I gotta get
out of this one.
I'll just be like, Oh yeah, ohyeah, I forgot I I gotta go make
some shots for you guys, or Igotta go get a drink for the
bride.
Like, I'm sorry about that.
(10:28):
I'll be back in one second, comeback in like 10 minutes.
And so it's just like you justkind of figure out little ways
to move.
Every man's dream job.
SPEAKER_04 (10:36):
I wish you guys would have been around when I
was planning my sister'sbachelorette party because you
would have made my job.
Because like basically, like, Iwas you know what I mean?
Like, I would have loved to havea pool boy making us drinks and
making rounds of shots andbringing them to us in our
little cabana at the pool.
That would have been cute.
SPEAKER_00 (10:54):
Yeah, and then you always you always check with the
group too.
Like when you first walk in,kind of like what's your guys'
vibe?
Like, is some groups want tolike go crazy and drink a bunch
and like party and be wild.
Other groups are more just like,we kind of just want you guys
just like chill in thebackground.
If we need you, we'll ask.
And we can do that too.
So it's like you just matchwhatever that group is.
(11:14):
So it's like every party isdifferent, every person is
different.
But while you're on the clockfor the two or three hours that
you're there, you're locked inand you're working.
Like it's not like a fuck aroundthing, you know what I'm saying?
Like it's still an expensiveservice, and they still expect
you to be professional.
So it's like a line of likebeing professional but still fun
at the same time and making surelike everybody's having a good
time.
SPEAKER_02 (11:34):
So you're kind of like a bottle girl, but for a
bachelor at parties, prettymuch.
And they tip you.
SPEAKER_00 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, though they'll tip.
Uh sometimes they want us tostay for an hour.
We'll figure out something to goalong the lines with that.
But we do everything from likeplaying drinking games.
I've always I've already saidmaking them drinks, but also
too, we grill.
So like they love it when likethey they'll have like steaks or
like burgers or some shit likethat, and they're like, Can you
grill this for me?
SPEAKER_04 (11:59):
Um, and you're in your little swim shorts.
Oh, that's cute.
SPEAKER_00 (12:02):
I'm just vibing over there, just get a little drink.
And then, like, normally at thatpoint, like you kind of already
played your drinking games, likethey're kind of like wanting to
hang out at this point as far aslike doing something.
So I'll just be growing, thoseI'll come hang out.
SPEAKER_02 (12:15):
Are you allowed to drink with them?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (12:18):
You can drink with them for sure, which is fun.
I mean, you can't get too drunkbecause you got a job to do, but
what kind of job like that wouldyou not want to drink at?
You know, it'd just be boring ifyou couldn't drink.
All right.
SPEAKER_02 (12:29):
Would you say that a lot of the bachelorettes and
their friends are they from outof town?
Because I know that Scottsdale'sthe number two place for
bachelorette parties now.
Would you say it's mostly peoplefrom out of town?
SPEAKER_00 (12:38):
Mostly out of town.
I think out of all the partiesI've done this year, like 30,
40, there's maybe been like twowhere they're like actually from
here.
Sometimes we'll have like a mixof people that like they know
that live out here that willpull up, but generally it's from
people that are from out oftown.
Um, a lot of people from likesmaller cities, like you're
saying.
Um, so yeah, it all depends.
They come from everywhere.
(12:58):
Canada.
I love Canadian women.
SPEAKER_04 (13:01):
A lot of Canadians come here for their bachelor's.
Canadian people are so fun.
SPEAKER_00 (13:05):
Yeah, they have to be a good idea.
SPEAKER_04 (13:06):
Have you ever had a gay bachelor party?
SPEAKER_00 (13:08):
No, I haven't.
SPEAKER_04 (13:10):
Would you do it?
Uh they would love it.
SPEAKER_00 (13:14):
I feel like you would, yeah, it might that might
be a little bit of a I'll say itis that that's a little bit of a
stretch, but what I will say ismy friend who has done a gay
bachelor party like that saidthey tip the best out of
anybody.
Honestly, now that I think aboutthe money, I would do it.
Yeah, I would do it.
But because like he kind of toldme like like they were pretty
(13:34):
respectful and whatever, andobviously, like some of one or
two of them did get like alittle touchy.
So, but you just like tell him,like, bro, you know, I don't I
don't go that way.
Yeah, I go right, I don't goleft.
So it's like you ain't gonna getvery far.
Yeah.
Then you're gonna piss me off.
SPEAKER_02 (13:48):
So do you date many Scottsdale girls?
How do you feel about Scottselgirls?
I know they have quite thereputation.
SPEAKER_00 (13:53):
I've had I moved down here four years ago.
SPEAKER_02 (13:56):
From where?
SPEAKER_00 (13:57):
Uh I'm from Vancouver, Washington,
originally, um, like right nextto Portland, Oregon.
So I moved here like duringCOVID.
So I've had one girlfriend downhere, or I've had had one
girlfriend.
It was like a year, year and ahalf.
Uh, it just didn't work out.
But um, so I wouldn't say that Ilike date like that a lot in
Scottsdale.
(14:17):
It's to me, it's like it's alittle bit different because
like everybody knows everybodydown here.
So it's like a lot of peopleknow the same people.
SPEAKER_04 (14:25):
Um, especially in the club scene.
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (14:29):
And it's like, like, I'm not trying to have a date a
girl where like my friends havebeen with or like multiple
people I know have been with.
Like, I'm cool out there.
So it's like I don't, it'sreally hard to date in like that
club scene right there.
But as far as like Arizona ingeneral, like bringing it out a
little bit from Scots to likeChandler and like Gilbert or
(14:49):
Glendale, those, like, there'sthere's good girls everywhere.
So it's like you just gotta findgirls that probably aren't in
that scene.
And there's nothing wrong withthem being in that scene.
Like, it's cool.
I'm in that scene too, so it'slike I get it.
But as far as like takingsomebody like actually serious
and stuff, probably don't wantto bring a girl home to your mom
that's in the club four nights aweek.
SPEAKER_02 (15:07):
Do people hook up with people that work at the
same club that you're at?
Do you guys all kind of I don'tlike like the workers?
Like, but do you like have youever hooked up with a bottle
girl or a bartender?
SPEAKER_00 (15:18):
I I mean I don't know about what people really do
like too much, like on like thatfront.
Um just because I kind of try tostay out of people's business.
Like what what they do.
Um, I know all the bottle girlsare really cool though.
So they're always fun to talk toand hang out with, and they make
the job a lot more um enjoyable.
So, and like I do promo, so it'skind of like for them to like
(15:39):
come to our table all the time,it's like not something they
really want to do because like alot of times people aren't
really like tipping or payinglike that.
But for me, they're all supercool.
They always hook me up.
I'm always taking care of reallygood.
So I fuck with all of them.
I think they're really cool.
But I mean, as far as like Idon't know, they're around
probably some of the richestpeople in the world, ball
players, um people spending bigmoney, 10k, 20k, 30k.
(16:02):
So I I imagine they couldprobably have fun.
But I feel like I have to askthem.
SPEAKER_04 (16:07):
I feel like a lot of girls who aren't in the club
scene would look at someone likeyou who is in the club scene as
a red flag.
Like I feel like club promotersautomatically are red flags to
women who aren't in the clubscene.
Do you find that that's an issuewith dating?
Do you have girls that that kindof prejudge?
SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
I mean, yes and no.
I feel like obviously it's a redflag because like my job is to
go up to girls 24-7 and bringthem into the club and drink
with them and hang out.
So it's like, yes, a red flag,but it's like, I mean, honestly,
like red flags are also a goodthing.
Like, no girl wants like somedude that just sits at home and
does nothing and talks tonobody, like that's a red flag
(16:51):
too.
SPEAKER_04 (16:51):
Exactly.
That's even worse.
SPEAKER_00 (16:52):
At least you're a hustler.
Exactly.
Girls want like somebody thatworks hard, like girls want to
be around somebody that girlswant to be around with.
It's like if you're hanging outwith like a super hot girl or
super hot group of girls, likeall the girls will be looking at
you like because they're they'renot stupid, like they know
they're really attractive.
So they're like, what does hehave to offer?
Is it money?
Is he funny?
Is he the gay best friend?
Like, like who is that?
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Like, I want to get to know whohe is.
So it's like more of anintriguing thing, and then it's
like So what do you have tooffer?
Shit.
SPEAKER_04 (17:20):
How old are you?
SPEAKER_00 (17:21):
First of all, you uh 27.
SPEAKER_02 (17:22):
27, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (17:23):
27.
Man, what do I have to offer?
I don't know.
I'm a good time.
You're not the gay best friend.
We've already established.
I don't know.
I feel like I'm a good time, I'mfunny.
Whole conversation is reallygood.
I just have a good time, I don'ttake life like too serious, you
know.
SPEAKER_02 (17:39):
I try to have fun with what I do and what are you
are you looking to get marriedand have kids?
SPEAKER_00 (17:43):
Eventually.
SPEAKER_02 (17:44):
Eventually.
SPEAKER_00 (17:44):
Yeah, at one point for sure.
I think what's that what's yourlongest relationship?
Uh that's a good question.
How long were you together?
Four and a half years.
SPEAKER_02 (17:52):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (17:53):
Yeah, so I was 18 and then we broke up like
probably like three months afterI moved out here.
So that's a whole story too.
But yeah, so that so four and ahalf years and then also a year
and a half relationship.
So now that I think of it, I'vebeen in a relationship for a lot
of my fucking life.
SPEAKER_02 (18:09):
Do you like being in a relationship?
SPEAKER_00 (18:11):
I do.
You do?
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's cool.
I like having like one personthere, like somebody that's
around all the time, because Idon't do good when I'm like by
myself, you know, or like I justalways have to be like around
people.
So for me, it's like I like thatconstant person being there.
I like to have like somebodythat I can like trust and depend
on.
Uh this kind of sounds I don'tknow, shocking, maybe.
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I don't know.
But I don't like drinking.
So all my job, not all my jobs,but two out of my three of my
jobs, it's around drinking, clubpromoting, being a pool boy for
bachelorette parties.
I drink because of theenvironment I'm in and it's what
we do.
And it it's fun, don't get mewrong, but if I had it my way,
if I could be out and drinkingand being single and wilding or
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whatever, or I could just be athome chilling, probably smoking
a little bit of weed, hangingout.
Like I would way rather havethat with somebody that like I
know, I love and I trust versuslike fucking off and drinking
and going off two hours of sleepevery other day.
SPEAKER_02 (19:08):
So you said two out of your three jobs, what's your
third job?
SPEAKER_00 (19:11):
Uh I manage uh teeth whitening in a spray tan place
in Disgusta.
SPEAKER_02 (19:16):
Are a hard worker.
I feel like that's not verycommon in the younger
generation, right?
SPEAKER_00 (19:21):
Yeah, we're I work seven days a week and early
nights, long wait, how do yousay that?
Early mornings, long nights.
Wow.
So I mean ambitious.
Generally Thursday throughSunday, I probably sleep in an
average of three to four hours.
And then I try to make up someMonday, Tuesday, Wednesday, but
I like I don't know, I don'treally sleep that much anyway.
So like even on my days off, Igo to bed at like 3 a.m.
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and I gotta be up at like likearound 8 39.
SPEAKER_04 (19:46):
So it's like in all of your jobs, you're surrounded
by women because it's like teethwhitening and tanning.
Oh my god, that's true.
Club promotions and bacheloretteparties.
So whoever dates you has to besuper, super secure.
SPEAKER_02 (19:58):
I was gonna say, it's gonna take a very
confident, strong, secure womanto date you.
Because I know a lot of womenwould be like, hell no, you are
always around pretty women.
SPEAKER_04 (20:08):
No, also, then how are you single?
Because if you're around, do youever hit, do you ever, I guess I
shouldn't say hit on, do youever approach women that you
meet at work?
Or have you tried?
SPEAKER_00 (20:18):
Uh like with the teeth whitening?
SPEAKER_04 (20:20):
And and any of the jobs.
I guess not the bacheloretteparties, probably, unless you
know they're single.
SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
No, definitely, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, all the when I mean whenI'm working, like I I gotta go
up to like the girls, you know?
As far like whether it's like agroup of like five girls that
are friends, or whether it'slike a group of like 15 girls,
bachelorette party, just go upto them.
And honestly, it's super easy.
It's not it's not hard at all.
Everybody's like scared to getrejected, whatever.
Like, I get excited for likewhen I go up to a group, I'm
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like, yeah, I just like to getmy first no out of the way.
Like I'm going up there and I'mlike, I'm literally walking up
to group and I'm like, pleasetell me no, please be a bitch,
please be rude.
Just the first one because onceyou get the first one out of the
way, then you're like all thenerves are gone, you're like,
fuck this shit.
Good thinking.
And I'm like, then I realizeonce I get my first no out the
way, then I got like hellapeople or hella girls that I'm
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like I'm bringing in and talkingto.
But if it's a night where likeit's a little bit dead and like
there's not that many groups,and it's like 11 and then and I
don't go really up to anybodyand get that like first no, like
I'll find myself like nottalking to as many girls or
whatever.
So it's like really I thinkrejection is a really good
thing.
Yeah, it's something thateverybody needs to get.
And I think I learned that whenI was doing door-to-door sales,
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because you get the door slammedin your face, all that, that
like rejection is a good thing.
Like, obviously, I'm like, Iwant them to come with me to
hang out because if I'm going upto them, either A it's a big
group and they're gonna be a lotof money, or B, they're probably
pretty good looking.
So I'm like, don't tell me now.
But uh yeah, so have you evercheated?
No.
SPEAKER_02 (21:45):
No, have you ever walked out mid-date?
SPEAKER_00 (21:48):
I have not either all my dates have gone good.
Really?
Yeah, I was just gonna ask you.
I haven't physically cheated.
I've I I forgot the words.
I don't know.
Yeah, that word.
I was like, that's a made-upword.
I don't even know what thatmeans.
SPEAKER_02 (22:01):
You know, at least you admit it.
SPEAKER_00 (22:03):
Yeah, I'd admit that.
Like when I was in like my firstrelationship, I was like dancing
on a girl at a party.
So I got in trouble for thatone, obviously.
And then the other one, um, Iwas I texted some girl something
that I I didn't mean it the wayit sounded and looked, but like
either or like A, I shouldn'thave even texted her back, B
what I said, I probablyshouldn't have said that one.
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But the way it came acrosswasn't the way.
But yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (22:27):
So you said it's a whole another story how you
ended things with your ex iswhat happened there?
Why did you break things offwith your four and a half
relationship?
SPEAKER_00 (22:36):
Um it was so like during COVID, obviously
everything was different.
It was like trapped in thehouse.
Um things were going good, butthen I just kind of got this.
I always had this thing in theback of my head where like I
wanted to like to be single andkind of do that thing, you know
what I'm saying?
Um I never went, I graduatedfrom Arizona State, but I went
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online.
So I never like went to like afour-year college and like all
that stuff, like party likethat.
So as I kind of got older, itjust kind of like kept like I
don't know the right word, keptitching at me or whatever you
want to call it.
So it just kind of like got to apoint where I was like, ah fuck.
And then my roommate at thetime, he was like, yo, you
trying to move to Arizona?
Like there's this like jobopportunity out there.
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And at that point, I was justkind of ready to get out of my
my environment I was in.
So I just felt like I felt likelife was too easy because I
graduated um high school, andthen two years later I was
coaching football at my old highschool, and then I was also
going to school to be a schoolteacher.
Um in Washington, they makereally good money being a school
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teacher.
And I'd have like three monthsoff out of the year, and I was
already set with the coachingand the other stuff I was doing
on the side.
So I was like, I had agirlfriend, and that was really
great.
And uh, so I just felt like Ihad everything going, but I was
like, damn, this shit's tooeasy.
Like, I need a challenge, I needsomething to like wake me up in
the morning, you know what I'msaying?
And then when my roommatesstarted talking about it, and I
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kind of was tired of Washington,just raining all the time,
nothing to do, it's great, it'sboring, people suck.
So it's just like get me out ofhere.
And so when I had a chance toget out of here, I moved here, I
didn't even visit here.
Like I'd never been here beforeI moved here.
I'd only been to three statesbefore I moved here.
So that's another thing.
I didn't travel and see theworld like that.
So then kind of just was like,okay, kind of told my ex like,
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hey, I'm gonna move there.
I'm gonna see if I like it.
For if I like it for a year,like you'll come down here with
me.
But I don't want to move youdown here and cause I don't even
know if I like it.
But at the same time, it'sfucked up because it's like, why
wouldn't you like have aconversation about it first of
all with somebody that you lovelike that?
About like, what do you thinkabout this?
Is it is that okay?
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And also it's fucked up to belike not giving her an option to
come with me at the start, beinglike, hey, this is what you're
gonna do in a year.
If I like it, you're gonna comedown.
So kind of didn't handle it thebest, I would say.
SPEAKER_04 (24:54):
It's hard when you're young, I feel like, too,
because you don't know what youdon't know.
You know what I mean?
When when you're that age.
Yeah.
And like you said, like youdidn't get a chance to really be
single as an adult.
And if you don't, I feel likethat happens with a lot of
people.
They either like jump intomarriage or a serious
relationship when they're superyoung, and then they don't get a
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chance to be single.
I think.
SPEAKER_02 (25:17):
Everyone needs to be single, I really do.
I do too.
So you have no regrets later onin life.
You don't feel the need at 40 togo out and party and be single,
you know?
SPEAKER_00 (25:24):
I feel that, but I mean, I feel like most people
when they look back on it, likethey kind of not regret their
decision, but kind of be like,it wasn't all I thought it was
gonna be.
SPEAKER_02 (25:33):
Do you regret your decision?
SPEAKER_00 (25:35):
I don't know if I I can say I regret it because
everything that I've done downhere, everything I have down
here is insane.
Um but would I say if I did goback and do it all over again, I
would definitely be hesitantabout it.
Because it wasn't just l uhmoving away from her and leaving
her.
(25:55):
It also like my whole family'sdown there, like I'm the only
person here.
So that's a lot more to do thanlike just her.
But I feel like it would havebeen definitely cooler to marry
your high school sweetheart thanit would be to like just find
some random girl when they're 30and just like whatever, you know
what I'm saying?
So it's like, yeah, I think itall depends on the girl in the
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situation.
SPEAKER_02 (26:16):
But have you been on any crazy dates here?
SPEAKER_00 (26:19):
I don't really go on dates a lot, to be honest.
SPEAKER_02 (26:21):
How do you meet people?
SPEAKER_00 (26:23):
Work.
SPEAKER_02 (26:24):
I mean, are you on the apps?
SPEAKER_00 (26:25):
Uh a little bit, but I don't really like need the
apps.
So it's like I'm not really geton them.
Like, I'll go on him like everyonce, like on a Monday or
Tuesday, and swipe a little bitand then like kind of get a
match and be like, okay, that'scool.
A little validation, but I'm notI'm not really gonna be out
there measured like crazy, youknow.
SPEAKER_02 (26:43):
So what's your ideal type?
SPEAKER_00 (26:45):
Uh I would say like in between five foot to like
five foot three, blonde hair.
Yeah, blue eyes.
Yeah, like can tell they workout, like go to the gym, like
got some ass, got some tittiesfor sure.
Can't be like flat.
So that's how I'm gonna do it.
That's like cool for a night,whatever, I guess.
But like if I'm gonna marry you,like, or like wanna date you,
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like I'm very, very, very, very,very picky and with who like I
date, whatever.
So like I try to wait for likethe perfect person, because this
is my thing, like the girl thatI date, like obviously
personality, whatever, likewe're gonna get to that at some
point.
We're talking just straightlooks here.
Like when I walk into like a baror a club or a restaurant, like
if everybody's not turning theirhead to look at my girl, like,
(27:28):
god damn, who the fuck is that?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
If she's not like that, thenit's like I'm I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (27:34):
Are you okay with the fake body?
SPEAKER_00 (27:35):
Yeah, I'm cool with that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (27:37):
If it's a fake butt and fake boobs, yeah, yeah,
that's cool for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (27:41):
I mean, fake butt is kind of funny.
A lot of times, you know, a lotof times they don't look good.
I'm gonna be honest.
But if it looks good, hell yeah.
It's about what it looks like.
I mean, it's definitely a littlebit different, like you know
feeling it, touching whatever,but which is interesting, but
it's everything cool to me.
SPEAKER_02 (27:56):
What are your deal breakers?
SPEAKER_00 (27:58):
Ooh, what are my deal breakers?
Besides flat tits.
I don't the you gotta treat yourfamily good, the people you're
around.
I don't like people that arebitchy or like like rude or like
like too much, or like even likesomething as like small as like
being rude to like a host orlike a server at a restaurant.
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Like, don't be a bitch, likethey're working hard, they're
not doing it on purpose, youknow.
So like those things.
Um I feel like it's not acomplete deal breaker, but like
coming from a good family, agood background, is very, very,
very important because thatcould cause a lot of problems
later down the road.
Uh I w I wouldn't date a girlthat's on OnlyFans ever.
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Never hell on the next one.
SPEAKER_02 (28:46):
Even if it's just her and she doesn't bring other
partners in.
SPEAKER_00 (28:49):
Nope.
Okay.
I can't do it.
I'm not gonna have my wife'stitties on the internet slanging
those things like it's crack.
unknown (28:54):
Like what?
SPEAKER_00 (28:55):
Not doing that.
Like I don't need 50 differentpeople having pictures of your
body.
Like I don't like that.
Um I'd I wouldn't date um anon-religious girl.
I wouldn't do a date an atheistperson.
SPEAKER_02 (29:08):
Uh are you religious?
What religion?
SPEAKER_00 (29:10):
Uh Christian.
SPEAKER_02 (29:11):
Okay, gotcha.
SPEAKER_00 (29:12):
Yeah.
I don't really go to church orwhatever, but I do read the
Bible from time to time.
And I I I would kind of like togo to church, but I kind of feel
like um I don't really when itcomes to a relationship with
God, I don't really need likesome other person to preach to
me about like God, basically.
I feel like you could read theBible and pray and figure it out
(29:35):
on your own that way versussomebody's interpretation of
them.
Cause it's like yourinterpretation of the Bible is
like your own and like that'skinda like God's word.
So it's like you shouldn't havesomebody like coming out coming
at it from their perspective.
You should have your ownperspective.
With now do I think church isgreat and it's a good thing for
people?
Hell yeah.
And I think ev a lot of peopleshould go to church, but just
(29:55):
for me personally.
SPEAKER_04 (29:56):
Did you grow up going to church?
SPEAKER_00 (29:58):
Um, we would go from time to time.
Definitely like on likeobviously holidays like Easter
and stuff like that, we wouldgo.
My grandma, she's really biginto her faith, and so whenever
we go, it'd always be with her.
But where I lived in Vancouver,they either lived like in Long
Beach, Washington, which waslike three hours away, or even
when they moved, they're stilllike an hour away or like an
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hour and a half away.
So we try to meet in the middle,like 45 minutes.
Um so we would go to church withthem from time to time.
But me and my brother were alsothree sport athletes, so Sundays
a lot of times we're atbasketball tournaments, I would
have football practice, umbaseball.
So a lot of times they're realbusy.
SPEAKER_04 (30:37):
But are you still into sports?
SPEAKER_00 (30:39):
Not as much to be not really.
SPEAKER_04 (30:41):
So you don't care if your girl is into sports or not
into sports.
SPEAKER_00 (30:44):
I think it's cool if she is, but I don't care if she
is or not, to be honest.
I used to be really big intosports.
I used to watch like all likeNFL all the time, college
football, basketball, like allthat.
But now over time, the only teamI care about and an is the
Oregon Ducks.
I like college football.
That's my favorite sport.
And I've been an Oregon Ducksfan since I was like two or
three.
So like that's the one likesporting event where I'm like,
(31:06):
all right, I don't give a fuckabout anybody.
Don't bother me.
I'm gonna watch this shit.
And then once it's over, I'mout.
Like I was in a UFC for a littlebit, but now it sucks.
And NBA's not as fun either.
So are you ready for it?
SPEAKER_04 (31:19):
I'm ready for it.
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All right, we have a listenerquestion.
My boyfriend and I have beendating for seven months now, and
I just farted while half asleep.
I am 100% sure he heard it.
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We've always made jokes aboutwhen we will get to that stage
of the relationship.
So I kind of know his view onthis, and I'm sure we both don't
care that much, but I'm stillmortified about these topics.
At what point in a relationshiprelationship is it acceptable to
(32:02):
fart freely and who goes first?
SPEAKER_02 (32:05):
You know what's funny is your sister.
When I first met your sister,she said something that has
stuck with me to this day.
It's science.
She's we were talking aboutfarting or something, and she's
like, it's science, it'snatural, and it's true.
Like, and after seven months, ifhe's turned off by her farting
after being with her for sevenmonths, she he probably probably
doesn't want to marry him.
Yeah.
You know?
What do you guys think I thinkit's normal?
SPEAKER_04 (32:25):
No, I agree.
That's it's kind of like when wewere talking about like the
gynecologist, like the body'sthe body, and it's like your
body is gonna do what it does.
SPEAKER_02 (32:34):
How would you feel if you'll go after seven months
farted in front of you and I?
SPEAKER_00 (32:37):
I mean, that's like normal.
Because after like seven months,like, hey, she's probably stayed
over at your house for likeweeks at a time.
Like you basically livetogether.
So it's like at a certain point,like when if you're in like high
school and you're like datingsomebody, she does like, yeah,
we're gonna make fun, and you'dprobably break up.
But like when you get older andlike you like you said, like
probably break up in highschool.
SPEAKER_04 (32:57):
And then it's the rumor.
Then you're known as the girlwho got broken up when you
farted in your sleep.
Oh, because that's it.
Totally happened to me.
Like that would totally havehappened.
It didn't happen to me, but thatwould be just that would be
something.
I I remember once, like, okay,so when I was with my ex, I
remember once I farted in mysleep and it was so loud it it
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won, I it woke me up.
And and so I like kind of likerolled over and pretended like I
was still sleeping.
And he was he was awake, he waslike, I heard that.
That was like a cringe! No, Iwas so embarrassed.
SPEAKER_02 (33:30):
That is cringe.
Yeah, but we are gonna discussthese interesting and true
dating facts.
Did you know that people decideif they're attracted to someone
within the first three secondsof meeting them?
I think that makes sense.
Oh, yeah.
Like I can realize right away inseconds if I'll be interested or
not.
Yeah.
Your voice changes when talkingto someone you're attracted to.
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Studies show both men and womenlower their tone.
Do you lower it?
Interesting.
Bye, baby.
SPEAKER_04 (33:57):
That much, not that much.
It's like, it's like, it's likea tone that's lowered.
It's lowered, probably so it'snot like noticeable to the naked
ear, but it's noticeable in likea scientific to a scientific
study, like if you're studyingthe tone of voice.
(34:17):
Funny.
SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
Smell matters more than looks.
Natural scent, not perfume,often plays a huge role in
romantic chemistry.
SPEAKER_04 (34:24):
Yeah, pheromones.
SPEAKER_02 (34:27):
Eye contact can make people fall for each other
faster.
Staring into someone's eyes forjust four minutes can create
feelings of connection.
I always thought that was kindof creepy though, for you like
on a first date, and he's justlike staring at you and like,
let's just look at each otherfor a moment.
Have you ever had that?
SPEAKER_00 (34:44):
I mean, I'm gonna look you in the eyes when I talk
to you for sure, but like I'mnot gonna be like hey, let's
stare each other in the eye.
SPEAKER_04 (34:48):
Like, yeah, not staring, but I do think it's
weird when someone won't look atyour face.
No, they won't look at you, likethey won't make eye contact with
you when they're talking aboutit.
That's weird.
That's odd.
You know, and I think that's it.
SPEAKER_00 (34:58):
That's a confidence thing, though.
Like if you believe in whatyou're saying, you could lose
some of the eyes and tell themwhat it is.
SPEAKER_02 (35:02):
Yeah, for sure.
Arguing isn't always bad.
Couples who argue effectivelyare more likely to stay together
than those who avoid conflictentirely.
That's true, becausecommunication, right?
More than 40% of relationshipsnow begin online, and that
number keeps climbing.
That's interesting.
But where else do people meet,you know?
But I will say, we were at thepolo event this weekend, and all
the younger, like early20-year-olds, they're none of
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them are on the apps.
Like they're kind of over theapps.
They and you it sounds like youkind of are too, but then I
guess with your job you don'tneed to be on.
SPEAKER_00 (35:31):
Right.
But um the young boys too, likethey like I don't know, they're
different for sure.
They like to just play videogames, stay inside.
Like, I heard the young boys arereally struggling to find girls
and stuff like that because ofthat.
Because like COVID basicallythey're kind of trained them to
stay inside, and then now allthey do is play video games.
And like they don't they onlyhave like an interest in going
(35:53):
up to girls and stuff like that.
Yeah, I heard some, I don'tknow.
We got somebody look this up.
I heard something like peoplelike 25 years, years old to like
18-year-old, like 40% orsomething like that are virgins,
and then like another like 50%have never actually approached a
girl before.
I don't know, you'd have to golook that up and fact check
that.
But yeah, I heard that and I waslike, damn, it sucks to be
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young.
SPEAKER_02 (36:16):
And one last one, this is obviously expected.
Men are more likely to swiperight than women, but women are
more selective, leading to moremeaning meaningful matches.
I feel like a lot of guys justaccept, accept, accept, right?
SPEAKER_04 (36:27):
Probably women are a little more selective.
I think that apps have becomejust more like hookup than
actually like people don'treally take them seriously.
SPEAKER_02 (36:35):
But what about like do people ever do match.com
still in eHarmony?
Are those more like the seriousfor serious-minded individuals?
SPEAKER_04 (36:45):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, I think they're stillaround.
SPEAKER_00 (36:48):
Yeah, I feel like people use like the dating apps,
like girls, for example.
Depends what girl you are.
Like, some girls do use themlike to be serious and try to
find people, but a lot of timesthey just put their Instagram in
their bio.
Or like not their bio, but theirprofile and try to get a
follower that way.
Or like a lot of times, like alot of girls I talk to about it,
like they just get like so likeoverwhelmed because like every
person they swipe on, it's amatch, and they're getting like
(37:10):
all these different messagesfrom people, and some are weird,
some are like cool, and thenlike you'll get a message from
somebody, and then they'll belike, somebody you want to talk
to you, message them back, andlike maybe they don't mess you
back for a couple hours, andthen now that like conversation
is like 20 people down, and sothey're like not even gonna see
it.
SPEAKER_02 (37:24):
So it's kind of like now it's time for the celebrity
cup where we marinate in thejuices of the celebrities.
So, did you see we can no longercall him Prince Andrew?
He's been stripped of his royaltitles.
It's just Andrew now.
Isn't that crazy?
Just Andrew.
It's just Andrew, yeah.
But what's funny is so myTikTok, I talk a lot about Megan
Markle, and people, all of myhaters are constantly saying,
(37:46):
You need to talk about Andrew.
He's terrible, he's worse thanMegan.
Talk about Andrew.
But my dad used to work withPrince Andrew, or sorry, Andrew.
And my dad is was always tellingme how much of a condescending,
narcissistic, derogatory prickhe was.
The first time my dad metAndrew, Andrew looked at him and
said, Who the fuck are you?
Like, how do you talk to agovernment official like that?
(38:07):
So my dad was always like, He'sa freaking prick.
So I'm like, I'm not gonna watchit.
SPEAKER_04 (38:10):
But it was he was stripped because of the Epstein
stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (38:14):
But I don't know why it took so long for them to
strip his titles after thatwhole scandal.
SPEAKER_04 (38:18):
I know.
Did well did they have to provethat?
Was it was it questionable, likewhether he was involved or not?
SPEAKER_02 (38:24):
I had pictures of him with her with that one girl,
Virginia, and it's just crazyhow he's like, No, that was
photoshopped.
And then he did this interviewto prove his innocence, but it
totally backfired and made himlook more guilty because I guess
she had said that they weredancing in a club and he was
sweating profusely, and how itwas so gross because he was just
sweating so much.
(38:44):
And in the interview, he's like,She was wrong.
This proves that she's lyingbecause I have a condition, a
medical condition where I neversweat.
Like, what?
That was if like anywho.
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SPEAKER_00 (39:08):
Have you ever accidentally sent a sex to the
wrong person?
You know, I don't really talk onmy phone like that.
Because no.
SPEAKER_04 (39:18):
You don't know?
SPEAKER_00 (39:19):
No, I don't think so.
SPEAKER_04 (39:21):
Are you a texter or a talker or neither?
SPEAKER_00 (39:25):
I'm an in-person type of person.
If I see you in person, thenyeah, I'm gonna go out and talk
to you, whatever.
But if you look at my phone,like I don't text people, I
don't really message people,like DM them like that.
I just I don't like it, to behonest.
Because like you it's hard tocatch a vibe because like I'm a
like sarcastic person and I saya lot of like wild funny things.
So it's like if I'm not inperson talking to you, like
(39:47):
you're not really gonna get whatI'm saying, or like my kind of
humor, like with it, you know.
So a lot of times it's easierjust for me to just be in person
and then like I'm not trying towait for you to respond and
carry a conversation I don'tcare about, or it's just too
much.
SPEAKER_04 (40:00):
Is that difficult with dating?
Because a lot of women I feellike need to be or they feel
like they need to be in constantcommunication.
Yeah.
They they want to be liketalking all the time.
SPEAKER_00 (40:09):
I hate that shit actually.
Yeah, let me get let me talkabout that real quick.
Yeah.
Like, like, don't get me wrong,I I will text you like
throughout the day, likewhatever, but like if we just go
from hanging out for like twoweeks straight, and then you get
home, and then I have an hour bymyself, and then I get a phone
call from you, and it's not likean emergency or like like some.
(40:30):
I'm like, bro, I literally justspent however many hours with
you.
Like, can I get an hour?
Like, fuck.
You know, I just gotta reset alittle bit.
I mean, I think it's cool thatlike she wants to obviously be
in constant communication andtalking, but like sometimes it's
like you gotta chill, littlebaby, you know.
Like, fuck.
SPEAKER_02 (40:46):
So, what line do you use?
If you see a girl that isbeautiful and you want to
approach her, yeah, what howwhat do you say?
SPEAKER_00 (40:52):
Um, I normally comment them like on their
outfit or something along thoselines, to be honest.
Because it's like they hearlike, oh, you're so pretty, or
like you're so hot, I had to goup to you.
Like, what I like, you hear that90 different times, so then it's
kind of like in one ear out theother.
But if I like comment you onlike, I don't know, if you got
like a cool bag or like likethose pants right there, like
(41:15):
those are flowy, cool.
Like, I'll I'll commentsomething on that, you know?
SPEAKER_04 (41:18):
Those are flowy.
Well that would that work foryou?
SPEAKER_00 (41:21):
I wouldn't say flowy, cause I think of
something a lot better,obviously.
But that's a laugh.
I'm just saying, like, forexample, yeah.
For like an example, I wouldjust like comment on something
on their outfit or somethinglike that.
So that's generally what like Ikind of try to do.
I mean, sometimes you can bebasic and be like, oh, what's
up?
Like, my name's Hagan, like,what's your name?
Like, that's another one.
SPEAKER_04 (41:39):
So Yeah, like that guy who told me I looked like a
picnic table on Saturday, andthen he called me and then he
called me charcuterie.
And I was like, I've never beencalled a picnic table or
charcuterie before, but thankyou, sir.
Wow, that's it.
SPEAKER_00 (41:51):
I mean, you haven't stopped thinking about that
since charcuterie.
How'd that one go?
SPEAKER_04 (41:56):
I think we were on different levels of drunkness.
That was actually the onlyexchange we had got to.
I mean, that probably wouldn'thave worked, but that's yelled
it at me like as I was walkingaway.
It was like one of thosesituations.
Charcuterie.
SPEAKER_00 (42:09):
I think it I think less is more when you go up to
hit on a girl that you don'tgotta say nothing crazy.
Come fucking charcuterie, youknow?
Like just like be like chill.
And I just feel like the firstlike 20, 30 seconds of the
conversation is the mostimportant part because that's
where like which it shouldn't,because your first time meeting
the person, like you could askthem a million different
questions, you know nothingabout them, you don't even know
their name, probably at thispoint.
(42:31):
But it's like that 20, 30seconds, like if the
conversation doesn't like flowreally good, it's probably not
gonna work out great.
So like you gotta make sure,like, you're on point, 20, 30
seconds, try to catch theirvibes, see what they're on.
SPEAKER_02 (42:43):
Well, thank you so much for joining us this week at
the meat market, and thank youso much, Hayden.
If you want to snag a date withHayden, you need to go to any of
our social media platforms atMeat Market Podcast.
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We'll see you next week at theMeat Market.
Oh my god, I just totally gotcatfished.
SPEAKER_03 (43:04):
He looks absolutely nothing like his picture.
So I found out the guy that I'vebeen dating is married with
kids.
His wife just reached out to me.
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